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We'll jump right in with any public comments. So any of you that are here, if there's anything that you want to bring up or 00:00:00
discuss that's not on the agenda, go ahead and come up to the microphone. 00:00:04
None, all right. 00:00:14
We'll move right into the work session. The first item is a vineyard connectivity analysis. 00:00:17
Actually, before we do that, we've got. 00:00:23
We've got two new members. Maybe you could just introduce yourselves on the record here. Umm. 00:00:26
For anyone that's watching this later and they can get to know you, so start with you, Jim and then Chris. 00:00:30
My name is Jim Price. I do not live in Vineyard. I am. 00:00:36
I don't know what they call that. 00:00:41
At large. 00:00:43
Anyway, I worked for Mountain Land Association of Governments for the past. 00:00:47
25 years I just retired. 00:00:52
And I don't know if you know what Maggie is, but we do transportation planning and project development. 00:00:54
And I was involved. I ran the Active Transportation program. 00:01:01
Great. Thanks, Jim. Good to have you. Thank you. 00:01:06
Hi, I'm Chris Wilsey with Bike Utah. I'm the Co Executive Director. 00:01:09
And Jim's wingman. 00:01:14
Good. Thanks. Thanks for introducing yourselves. But yeah, let's jump ahead into the the work session for the Vineyard 00:01:21
connectivity analysis. 00:01:25
There you go. 00:01:31
How does this work? Again, I just wait until it's red. 00:01:50
And then you click on it. 00:01:54
And not flashing. 00:02:03
Future. 00:02:10
OK, I don't. 00:02:14
Was I don't think you were here when I presented on this last time. 00:02:15
And maybe not you. 00:02:21
But the two of you were here. 00:02:23
So you're going to get the presentation twice. 00:02:27
OK, as I said last time, I didn't perform the analysis one of my staff members did, so I can't get into like the Super. 00:02:36
Specific details, but I can answer a lot of questions. 00:02:47
And it could probably answer more questions than I could last time. 00:02:50
OK, so this connectivity analysis. It explores the completeness of vineyards at network. 00:02:58
And it looks at the relative level of connection, the density of networks, and the ability of users to connect. 00:03:05
To origins and destinations. 00:03:13
So basically how you do the relative level of connect? 00:03:18
Is. You calculate this by dividing the total number of St. segments by. 00:03:24
So that would. 00:03:30
Be links by the number of intersections, so nodes and that's kind of the little dots on the map and you can determine that areas 00:03:31
relative level of connection. 00:03:36
And to further complicate this, we looked at barriers, so streets that were really fast maybe didn't have good crossings. 00:03:43
And we listed those as kind of barriers in that network, so. 00:03:53
Practically speaking. 00:04:00
That becomes an issue for the connectivity for walking and biking. 00:04:03
And the network density is measured as intersections per square mile within the study area. 00:04:11
And you may be asking like, why does all this matter so for? 00:04:19
Bicycling and walking. You want your network to be a lot more permeable. 00:04:23
So the last time you guys asked. 00:04:31
Some questions about why it seemed as if your connectivity was really low, and we'll get into that in a second, but a lot of that 00:04:36
has to do with the scale at which Vineyard is working. 00:04:42
In terms of connectivity? 00:04:50
And you want, so when I say permeable, if you're walking and biking, the scale at which you're working is much smaller, right? So 00:04:52
if you're driving. 00:04:57
Having to drive a mile or half a mile before you reach an intersection is not that big of a deal. But if you're walking and 00:05:04
biking, having to walk a mile. 00:05:08
To turn. 00:05:14
Is a big deal versus being able to only walk maybe 100 feet. 00:05:16
So we are looking at walkability, not just bikeability and so. 00:05:25
We looked at the quality of the network for these users, so measuring block lengths as I was just talking about. 00:05:32
That probably, and it matters a lot more for walking, even more than biking so. 00:05:40
If you think about walking, biking is at the top end of sort of pedestrianism. 00:05:46
Because you can travel a lot further, that sort of same concept of like. 00:05:53
How far can you go before it becomes really burdensome on you? 00:05:57
So you can look at this. 00:06:05
Chart. Don't look too closely, there's some typos, but this has the standard. 00:06:11
And where vineyards at? 00:06:17
So you're at 2 intersections per square mile. 00:06:21
Your connectivity index is 1.4 versus the standard of 1.8, so not that far off. But your block lengths are very long. So somebody 00:06:25
asked last time why are our block lengths so long? So I have a better answer having looked into it and talked it over with a staff 00:06:30
member. 00:06:35
Do you guys want the long answer or the short answer? 00:06:41
Well, the short answer is. 00:06:48
You don't have a lot of. 00:06:53
Permeability on a lot of roads and I think part of that is the lack of development in certain areas, but it's also. 00:06:54
I think tie it into like the whole concept of strouds versus. 00:07:03
Non strokes which I actually think. 00:07:06
And this gets into the longer answer. 00:07:09
So I actually think Vineyard is not. 00:07:12
Doing the strode thing. 00:07:15
Does everybody know what a Stroud is? 00:07:17
OK, so strode, it's sort of like AI don't know, like a colloquial term or something, I don't know. 00:07:19
For when? 00:07:28
On a transportation system. 00:07:29
You're connecting what some people call like streets and roads, so the distinction they're making there is that. 00:07:32
Streets are for like people like Imagine. I don't know, like a street in Europe or maybe. 00:07:38
I don't know, like Disneyland. 00:07:47
So that's going to be like made for people you're walking, you don't have cars flying through? 00:07:50
And a road is for moving cars. So Strode is trying to do both of those things. It's trying to have a lot of people and it's 00:07:56
trying. 00:07:59
And so that's going to increase tech connectivity because you want it to be actually be usable, but the road is trying to move 00:08:03
traffic as quickly as possible. 00:08:07
So in a lot of cities, where? 00:08:11
Like mid century places or places that were developed mid century, you get a lot of these strokes. So if you look at certain areas 00:08:15
of Provo, a lot of Orem. 00:08:19
They were trying to do that. They were trying to mix these two things because prior to that, for thousands of years everybody was 00:08:24
building streets within this sort of paradigm. 00:08:29
Because we didn't have cars, right? 00:08:34
And so they hadn't learned, I guess, a lot of the lessons we've since learned. And so in Vineyard, what you guys are doing, like 00:08:38
from a transportation perspective, is you are prioritizing cars in a lot of cases, which is actually like a good thing in some 00:08:43
ways. 00:08:49
If you're going to build. 00:08:56
A road network. 00:08:59
You should choose what you want. 00:09:01
Instead of doing the strode thing because it just. 00:09:03
Causes a lot of chaos and death. 00:09:05
So in Vineyard, a lot of your streets are. 00:09:09
Roads. Sorry, roads within that whole paradigm I just talked about. 00:09:12
And So what that means is you don't have a lot of connectivity, but on a stroke you're going to have a lot of intersections. 00:09:18
And you guys don't have that because what your transportation planners apparently were trying to do was move vehicles efficiently. 00:09:25
Through your network which? 00:09:34
We go back to that. 00:09:37
That reduces conflicts. 00:09:41
Because most people are actually like, getting hit in intersections, right? 00:09:43
So that's a good thing and then so theoretically how you could approach that? 00:09:48
To get the best of both worlds as you have your roads. 00:09:54
And then those connect into streets and then everybody has to slow down once you reach into the streets. So that's why it's like a 00:09:58
good thing in that sense. 00:10:03
And so that's what's happening is you have these really long lengths of Rd. where there are no intersections, and so you're 00:10:07
getting these really long block lengths. 00:10:11
Is that sorry long answer. 00:10:16
Yeah. 00:10:18
So at this point you should probably look more closely at the document, but some of our main recommendations were more about 00:10:22
school accessibility. 00:10:27
So improving key intersections to schools because again, like I said, that's where most people are getting hit. 00:10:34
And so that's where some of the problems in the analysis. 00:10:39
Came about was some of those intersections are not particularly safe around biking and walking, particularly for kids. 00:10:44
And some facility connections were kind of missing and we talked about this a bit last time. 00:10:53
And then here's kind of a list of different recommendations that we gave. 00:11:02
And again, this was another issue of why you were getting really long block lengths was you had a lot of cul de sacs. 00:11:12
And so those just become dead ends essentially in terms of connectivity. So if you can put little cut throughs or connectivity 00:11:20
improvements in those cul de sacs, it will improve your connectivity drastically. 00:11:26
Questions. 00:11:41
Trails select the connectivity with some of the cul de sacs still. 00:11:46
They would connect if you take the. 00:11:49
Yeah, I think that was kind of the limitation of the analysis was. 00:11:54
We're limited by what GIS data exists, so. 00:11:59
If it wasn't in the data like we tried to ground truth, a lot of it through Google Maps. 00:12:04
But if it wasn't in the data and. 00:12:11
There's only so much Google mapping you can do, then we might not have caught it. 00:12:15
But yeah, I think that would be my answer. 00:12:20
Yeah, just quick, what did you use? What was your data? 00:12:25
It's the. 00:12:29
For those folks. 00:12:33
It's the data set, yes, AGRC. 00:12:38
With the soy sauce on Main Street and 600 N you had that as a. 00:12:43
Barrier to connection with the new crosswalk there, would you? 00:12:49
Change that classification now, Or would you leave it the same? 00:12:53
Yeah, I'd have to look at it. I don't know that. 00:12:57
Crosswalks. Always. Because I don't know, like me personally. 00:13:01
I wouldn't consider a crosswalk necessarily like a safety, sure. 00:13:06
Improvement all the time. I mean, maybe like. 00:13:12
Because sometimes. 00:13:17
It may be, I don't know. I think that's like kind of a complicated thing. 00:13:19
But I think at the bare minimum it functions. It's like a designated space to cross. 00:13:26
So I'd have to look at it specifically and see what. 00:13:34
What it looks like? 00:13:37
Cool. 00:13:38
My question is, we're not a. 00:13:41
Decision making body when it comes to the infrastructure, more recommendations so to staff like what's the. 00:13:45
What's the best way for us to compile? 00:13:50
Maybe top priorities from this and then present to other Planning Commission, City Council. 00:13:54
We're the best next steps. 00:13:59
Well, thanks for the question. 00:14:03
So at this point, we have on our agenda. 00:14:06
Priority projects that we want to discuss. 00:14:10
We are planning that we want to have the BAC make. 00:14:13
More active recommendations to council so we would start compiling these priority projects. 00:14:18
And priority areas that need to be addressed almost immediately. 00:14:25
So the council can move it to the next level of implementation based on what we're able to recommend moving forward starting from 00:14:30
now, you know, so. 00:14:36
Again, these recommendations or projects that have been recommended with this through this project study. 00:14:43
Can be part of the recommendations that we will be. 00:14:51
You know, presenting to counsel, but together as a Commission you would have to. 00:14:54
Agree on what you. 00:15:01
Present so that it doesn't look like we're presenting to console. 00:15:03
All the city problems in one. 00:15:08
All right. We'll just prioritize it and. 00:15:10
As part of the things that we'll be doing now as our Commission. 00:15:13
Would be to be present at City Council. 00:15:17
And make some of these recommendations as part of. 00:15:20
The duties of the Commission. 00:15:25
And like a lot of the recommendations we put in here are actually in your AT master plan is just like a different sort of 00:15:27
rationale or lens to understand those recommendations through, if that makes sense. 00:15:33
It does. 00:15:40
Did you also happen to look at the like the interconnectedness with the vineyard, but then also too with the looks like Orem 00:15:43
Linden? 00:15:46
We didn't. We didn't look at it in a regional scale. 00:15:51
Because ideally you want to draw people from those cities to come and hang out vineyard. 00:15:56
Ride a bike from. 00:16:03
I mean, is that something you can look at or? 00:16:06
That would be like a more that would be. 00:16:08
Sort of the scope of this project was just Vineyard, but that would be more of a regional project. I mean, I don't think it does 00:16:10
like it does make sense what you're saying. 00:16:14
Do other cities look at that or is that? 00:16:20
So that would be like something mag. 00:16:22
Would be looking at. 00:16:24
I mean, we could look at that, but it's just like the scale is just larger like Orem. 00:16:26
Has issues. 00:16:31
So I think it's worthwhile to look at. 00:16:33
There are a lot of opportunities. 00:16:39
To make those regional. 00:16:41
Inter regional and regional connections. 00:16:44
Umm, that's what Meg. 00:16:48
Specializes in. 00:16:50
Within the city. 00:16:53
They kind of leave it to the city to say, hey, what do we want to have happen? 00:16:55
And then once we want to interconnect cities, that's where Mac steps in more. 00:16:59
On that regional facility network. 00:17:04
So it might be worth looking at like the Mag Transportation Master Plan. 00:17:10
And seeing if there's facilities that. 00:17:16
Could be like a priority in terms of coordinating with Orem or other cities. 00:17:20
Because I think. 00:17:26
I don't think it should be understated, the importance of like cities articulating their priorities. 00:17:29
And if you don't do it. 00:17:36
Stuff maybe happens, but maybe not the way you want it to. 00:17:39
You thinking like the Linden Trail and down South to State Park or what? 00:17:42
Like, oh, let's just set up the Murdoch trail or? 00:17:52
It's always like nowhere. Let's not even consider riding through Vineyard. 00:17:54
If we're going to go down to Nebo. 00:17:59
Just longer rides that hey, how do we make it such that people actually want to? 00:18:02
Take a route through Vineyard. 00:18:07
So one of our. 00:18:13
One of our big, I guess lifts right now at Bike Utah is we're trying to figure out a way to fund us doing. 00:18:16
An 80 like master plan for Utah Lake. 00:18:26
So that could be if that if we can figure out how to get money for that. 00:18:30
That could be something that we. 00:18:33
Could look at. 00:18:38
Some of those questions. 00:18:39
Thanks. 00:18:43
Good job. 00:18:46
Any other questions for Chris on that? 00:18:48
Publix, welcome to speak up. Have you got questions there? 00:18:52
All right. Thank you. We'll move on to item 3.2, Project 529, Bike Registry platform for cities, police departments. I believe 00:18:55
this is Caden. 00:19:01
Oh yeah. 00:19:11
Stick it in and. 00:19:18
Thank you. Sorry about that. 00:19:20
Once you have a solid range, just click on it, OK. 00:19:28
OK, perfect. 00:19:46
Thank you for. 00:19:49
Giving me a few minutes tonight, I'm excited to be here. My name is Kaden. Roten. Um. 00:19:50
Bikes have been a big part of my life. I grew up riding bikes. 00:19:56
I'm going on four years without a car. 00:20:00
I serve on the board of directors of a national nonprofit called Free Bikes for Kids. 00:20:03
And I work in the bike industry, so this is one of the companies that I represent. 00:20:08
It's called project 5 to 9. 00:20:13
So excited to kind of share what it is that that we do and how we work with with cities. 00:20:17
And police departments to help end bike theft. So that's it's in short, we're a bike registration platform. 00:20:24
Software that helps. 00:20:31
Deter and deter bike theft as well as increased recovery when bikes are indeed stolen. So. 00:20:33
Let me move on to a second SO. 00:20:42
As you can see here, we're North America's largest and most comprehensive bicycle registration reporting and recovery network. 00:20:45
Outraged by the $1 billion annual epidemic. 00:20:52
We've set our sights on cutting bike theft by 50% in 2020, so it was founded by Jay Allard, who's the. 00:20:56
Kind of founder. He was the CTO of Microsoft and the founder of Xbox. He had his bike stolen. 00:21:02
And was really upset by that and so sought to to. 00:21:09
Figure out a way to make that. 00:21:15
It's something that I think about a lot when I'm going to a destination. 00:21:48
Is there a place to park my bike safely? 00:21:52
Somewhere that I can. 00:21:56
Maybe bring it inside or is is there adequate bike parking, things like that. And that could be along with infrastructure and 00:21:58
connectivity and things that we've talked about and I know that you guys talked about on. 00:22:03
Commission, but also just. 00:22:08
Having that Peace of Mind, that. 00:22:11
If my bike is stolen, if I'm worried about my bike being stolen, I'm less likely to ride and that's not something that that. 00:22:14
Anyone in this room wants? 00:22:19
I'm not going to go through all of these figures on this infographic, but this just highlights. 00:22:22
The epidemic of bike thefts in the US. There's over 2 million bikes stolen. 00:22:27
Each year, which costs communities over a billion dollars. 00:22:33
Annually. 00:22:36
Fewer than 1% of bikes are registered. 00:22:39
Which makes it really hard for people who are victims of bike theft or even police departments to recover a bicycle if it's 00:22:41
stolen. 00:22:45
I know a lot of people get really frustrated with the police when a bike is stolen and they file a police report, but it's also. 00:22:49
Almost impossible for the police to do their job if there's no. 00:22:57
If they have no serial number, no record of it being registered, they just have no tools to be able to adequately. 00:23:00
Do their job. 00:23:06
And one of the more depressing stats on here is. 00:23:09
Anywhere from 20 to 50% this On this infographic it says 25%. 00:23:12
But I've seen different studies that say different things, but anywhere from 20 to 60% of people who have a bike stolen. 00:23:18
Never write again, They for they for sure ride less, which is. 00:23:26
Discouraging and something that. 00:23:29
That we obviously want to avoid. So what? 00:23:31
What Project 529 is in a nutshell is just it's a way for individuals. 00:23:35
Cities and police departments to. 00:23:41
Work together to deter theft and the way that we. 00:23:44
Deter theft is through these Shields, so you register a bike on the platform. 00:23:47
And you can get what we call a shield, which is a tamper proof decal, which is pretty cool. It's just ink and. 00:23:53
Paint basically. So once you install that on your bike and after 24 hours it's essentially. 00:24:01
I mean, you can't get it off. It's essentially paint on there. So that is something that serves as a deterrent to thieves when 00:24:08
they see a bike and see that it's registered. 00:24:13
They're going to have a harder time selling it. They they if they take it into a bike shop, a bike shop can look it up and ping 00:24:18
the owner. 00:24:22
On the app which is the second part of the platform. 00:24:26
There's an app where you can go and manage your bicycles and make sure that. 00:24:30
You have all the the. 00:24:35
Pertinent and necessary information to register them and if it is stolen. 00:24:36
You can set an alert on the app and it notifies. 00:24:41
Local government, police departments and anyone within. 00:24:45
A radius that you set. So if you want to alert all 529. 00:24:50
Project 529 users within a 25 mile radius. 00:24:54
You can say hey, if my bike was just stolen. 00:24:58
They'll get an alert on their phone to to be on the lookout for for something like that. 00:25:00
And then obviously the database of the millions of bikes that are registered are on there that governments and police departments 00:25:05
can. 00:25:08
If they do. 00:25:12
Obtain a bike or or they they find one that they suspect might be stolen, they can look for it and and see. 00:25:13
If it's registered. And so one thing I wanted to note here is that no personal information is ever shared. I know that's big in 00:25:20
the city. I'm also a resident of Vineyard and I know that. 00:25:25
We're having discussions at a city level just about privacy and personal information and things like that, so this is something 00:25:31
that. 00:25:35
No personal information is ever shared with the city governments or with the police departments. 00:25:39
When you when you share an alert that your bike was stolen. 00:25:44
It's just it just shares the bike information and then if someone does. 00:25:48
If the police do. 00:25:53
Collect that bike and find it and they see it's registered. 00:25:55
They just reach out to you through the app. They don't, they don't know who they're reaching out to. They just know, hey, this 00:25:59
bike is registered at this. 00:26:02
Project 529 user so we're going to. 00:26:06
Message them through the app to come and collect their bikes so. 00:26:09
That's kind of how it works. 00:26:13
So let's. 00:26:17
Go down. I wasn't able to get exact figures from the Sheriff's Department about. 00:26:19
Cyclists or bike theft in Vineyard but on the website we have a calculator and I was very conservative with the numbers. I slid 00:26:26
everything to the left. So this is. 00:26:31
Potentially the low end of. 00:26:38
How things are affected in Vineyard, but a 308 cyclists will be impacted by bike theft over the next 12 months. 00:26:41
Resulting in $290,000 in property loss. 00:26:48
The cost of reporting and managing stolen bikes by police would be over $4000 and bike shops will lose about $78,000 in revenue. 00:26:52
And going back to that stat, 22 cyclists will stop writing entirely. 00:27:00
But then communities that actively use Project 529 have seen a 40% reduction in reported bike thefts. And if we can just. 00:27:06
Decrease theft by 10%. 00:27:15
In Vineyard, that would. 00:27:17
Save the Police Department $803 and help keep 4 bikes in the hands of their rifle owners, reducing property crime by $3000 and 00:27:20
again, that those are very conservative numbers. I don't. 00:27:25
I'm hoping that it's less than that, but this was as low as the our calculator. 00:27:31
Would go, but then what it means for the city? 00:27:36
It's a software subscription. 00:27:40
It's really low cost, but it includes 5 staff accounts and unlimited search accounts for police and city staff to search within 00:27:44
the five. 00:27:48
29 Police app to be able to return bicycles to owner if and when they are stolen. 00:27:52
Analytics to be able to track the number and quality of registrations in Vineyard as well as the number of stolen and returned 00:27:57
bikes. 00:28:00
So if we had a citywide initiative to register bikes. 00:28:04
The Sheriff's Department and the city staff could see, oh wow, we have we have 10,000 bikes registered in Vineyard and you know, 00:28:08
300 of them were reported stolen last year. We were able to. 00:28:14
To return 100 of them back to the owner, so. 00:28:20
Yes, Chris. 00:28:23
Does it cost anything to get a sticker or what's the process there? 00:28:26
Yeah, I good question. I will get any good thing. 00:28:30
And then you can, as a city, have a custom branded registry. You can have a, you know, a vineyard. 00:28:34
Page on your website. 00:28:41
That people can register through the city. 00:28:43
And so they're not having to go. 00:28:46
To project 5 to 9 calm, they can go to. 00:28:49
The Vineyard website and registered through the city there and they'll be tied into the. 00:28:52
The local kind of group for the analytics for the city. 00:28:57
And then, if indeed bikes are found and we don't, we can't. 00:29:02
Locate the owner. You can publish impounded bikes and. 00:29:07
And send an alert out so that people who are. 00:29:11
Maybe had a bike stolen on the app can can go and see and identify, oh this is indeed my bike and I can come and grab it. 00:29:14
And then the thing that I get excited about as a resident of Vineyard and as something that I think would be really cool to see in 00:29:22
the city. I know that Bike Month is a is a big focus of this Commission and something that the city likes to do and so. 00:29:29
What they've What we've done in other cities and found great success with or registration events. 00:29:36
Where city staff or police departments will go and set up a booth. 00:29:42
And through there through the app just register. 00:29:46
People, residents who want to come and register their bikes. And so yeah, it's free, it's free to register and it's free for. 00:29:51
And it would be free for people to come and register there. 00:30:00
So back to your question. 00:30:03
Chris, how it works for cities is. 00:30:05
We have rolls of stickers that we would sell at cost to. 00:30:08
Two governments into police departments. 00:30:12
And then they can. 00:30:15
Either sell those to get their. 00:30:16
Dollar $2.00 per sticker. 00:30:19
Cost if they want to break even, or they can. 00:30:21
What most municipalities do and what we recommend is that they just. 00:30:24
Give them out to their residents and so that's something that. 00:30:27
That we could facilitate. 00:30:32
As well, but then you can also purchase them on the website. 00:30:34
I think they're $10 if you purchase them on the website. 00:30:38
But for cities, we want it to be really accessible and so we just sell them. 00:30:42
Two cities at cost and they can distribute them. 00:30:47
At registration events. 00:30:50
Through the City Hall, you know however they they see fit. So. 00:30:51
That's kind of. 00:30:56
The meat and potatoes of what I came here to say, but one thing that I will say is that something like this. I had a slide on 00:30:58
network effects, but I'm not. 00:31:02
Get into it, but this is something that. 00:31:07
Really becomes more valuable the more users that we have on it. So I have telephones on here as an example of a product that 00:31:11
really benefited from network effects if you're the only person in the world with the telephone. 00:31:17
It doesn't mean anything because you can't call anyone, but the more people they got phones, the more valuable they became 00:31:24
because. 00:31:28
They were able to reach out. 00:31:32
To countless other people and be able to. 00:31:33
That way, and this is something that we see too, you know, the more it's a it's a virtuous cycle, the more people who register 00:31:37
their bikes. 00:31:40
So more bikes are. 00:31:44
Reported stolen, the more bikes are recovered. 00:31:45
And this is something that's. 00:31:48
On display. 00:31:49
Kind of Our perfect example that we talked about is Vancouver, BC. 00:31:51
They, they were one of the first adopters of Project 529, and they've really, really run with the program. 00:31:56
They had a bike thief detective who kind of took the ball and ran with it, implemented it across. 00:32:03
Vancouver and the other cities and all the bike shops in Vancouver at the time of sale register the bikes every bike that gets 00:32:09
sold. 00:32:13
And they've seen since it was implemented, they've seen bike theft decrease by 70%. 00:32:17
And 91% of bikes that are stolen with a shield. 00:32:23
Are returned to their owner which is. 00:32:27
Crazy compared to the less than 5% of stolen bikes that are returned. 00:32:29
Nationwide So. 00:32:34
So yeah, pretty, pretty cool, pretty fun, and I'm happy to answer any questions, but that's. 00:32:35
One more quick question. So remind me again what role the city plays in this? So if every bike owner and vineyard registered here 00:32:42
but the city didn't do anything? 00:32:46
But my bike got stolen and it was registered. There's still. 00:32:52
Connection to law enforcement into other cities that could potentially track that down South. Remind me again what the benefit is 00:32:56
for the city and for like our law enforcement officers? 00:33:00
Yes, the benefit for the. 00:33:05
The law enforcement officers is that they would be able to, they would have access to the. 00:33:08
The police app to be able to search. 00:33:14
Bikes. All the bikes that are stolen and all the bikes that are registered within. 00:33:17
Within the city or just nationwide? Because you know bikes can, when they're stolen, can cross city borders, right? But the. 00:33:22
So yeah, anyone can go and register for free outside of the city, right? But like I was saying, with the kind of network effects, 00:33:30
this becomes really valuable when. 00:33:35
More people are registered, and so by partnering with. So we partner with bike shops, we partner with cities, and we partner with 00:33:40
police departments. 00:33:43
To be able to get more people on the platform, but then also. 00:33:47
To help police officers be able to do their job better. 00:33:52
And in recovery on the back end because if. 00:33:57
If no bikes are registered. 00:34:00
Even if they recover every stolen bike, they won't be able to get them back to. 00:34:02
Their rightful owners because they there's no way of knowing who the rightful owner is and so. 00:34:06
Just equipping police departments with the tools and giving bike owners. 00:34:11
The ability to say yes, this bike is mine, it's registered, and here's. 00:34:16
Here's my paperwork or whatever. Did that answer your question? Yeah, And does it coordinate at all with any other existing bike 00:34:21
registries like Bike Index or so? We have a partnership with Bike Index and so everything that's registered on Bike Index also. 00:34:28
Is searchable on Project 529. 00:34:36
And if anything is flagged like. 00:34:39
I have the app on my phone and I was looking today. There's some bikes that were stolen in Provo that were registered on Bike 00:34:41
Index that I was able to see. 00:34:45
And keep an eye out for it. 00:34:50
But even though they weren't registered on project 529, but. 00:34:53
Visible. 00:34:57
Accessible through this platform. So yeah, we work together with them on that. 00:34:58
Yes. 00:35:06
Maybe a weird question but. 00:35:08
Do you know what the success has been like with pawn shops like, like, because I feel like that's like where right, where most of 00:35:10
the bikes are gonna go. No, that's a good question. And that. 00:35:16
I don't have enough experience, so I just. 00:35:23
Started we just. 00:35:26
Started with this but I. 00:35:27
I would have to get back to you on that, but my suspicion would be if it has the shield. 00:35:31
It would be tougher for a pawn shop to. 00:35:36
To do it or if someone's buying a bike. So that's the thing too, is that the more this gets out there, the more people are aware 00:35:40
of it. If someone's buying a bicycle. 00:35:44
And it has a sticker on it. 00:35:49
And they can, they can look it up and say, oh, this bike was flagged as stolen, I'm not, I'm not going to buy this. You shouldn't 00:35:52
be selling it. 00:35:54
So I don't I can get back to you on that. I don't know for sure what conversations with pawn shops have been like or what. 00:35:57
The attitudes or if they still take and sell those bikes, I'm not sure. 00:36:05
But my hunch is. 00:36:09
Is that they would be more hesitant to. 00:36:11
To take those bikes and to sell them if. 00:36:15
They can see on the app that they're marked as stolen. 00:36:17
So sorry I don't have a better answer for that. 00:36:21
Are there any nearby cities that? 00:36:24
Used project 529 and. 00:36:29
To my knowledge, no. So it's big in Denver and we're just. So I was kind of brought on to to help it grow and. 00:36:31
Bring it not only to cities but to bike shops. That's my main role is. 00:36:41
Getting bike shops. 00:36:46
Involved, but Denver is the closest city that I know that has really adopted it and seen a lot of success with it, but I don't 00:36:47
think any as far as I know. 00:36:52
I don't know of any Utah cities that are currently on board. 00:36:56
Do we talk about like the cost for? Yeah, so for a cost for a city the size, it's $500 a year. 00:37:01
And then like I said, the Shields are just at cost, which is about $2.00 A. 00:37:10
A pop and they come in rolls of 500 so. 00:37:15
So for the year subscription and for 500 Shields it would be about $1500. 00:37:18
For the city so. 00:37:24
Cool. Cool. Yeah. Awesome. Well, thank you guys. I appreciate the time. 00:37:28
I have a couple of questions, if you don't mind. Yeah, for sure. I'm glad we have some numbers for the city. So just so I, you 00:37:32
know, I understand everything perfectly. Did you say? 00:37:37
Or are you saying that the police, like this sheriff and you know the Police Department, don't need to have a subscription? 00:37:42
Or it's something that we as a city would have to include them as part of our so it would be. So they wouldn't need a separate 00:37:50
one, if that's what you're asking. The Vineyard City could. 00:37:56
Subscribe and share with the police. 00:38:03
So typically we partner with either the city or the Police Department, whoever is more receptive. 00:38:07
In the city and then they can. 00:38:13
They share visibility and access into the platform that way. So yeah, Vineyard City and the Sheriff's Department wouldn't need to 00:38:15
purchase their own subscription. They would. 00:38:20
They would share one, if that makes sense. OK. And would that be like a new, you know? 00:38:25
New member discount for the city because if BAC has to recommend this to move forward. 00:38:31
This should be at a very attractive. 00:38:38
Financial, you know, cost. 00:38:41
Yeah. I mean, is your company open to some negotiations with the city? 00:38:46
That's a good question. Again, I'm not the government guy. Typically I'm the the bike shop guy. But yeah, I think that. 00:38:52
You know with. 00:38:58
We recover one bike in the. 00:39:00
In the platform. 00:39:03
Is worth it because it pays for itself that way. 00:39:05
Recovered property, So I think that. 00:39:09
We'd be I mean, I would love to see Vineyard lead with this and adopt this. And so if it's a if it's a budget constraint issue 00:39:13
then. 00:39:16
I'm sure there's something that can be worked out there, but. 00:39:20
I don't have any. 00:39:24
Other numbers besides the ones that I quoted you, it'll be good to have that in mind because we're a government and. 00:39:26
The processes could delay. 00:39:32
When we, you know, decide to get this, even if BAC recommends this to the council and they're interested. 00:39:34
So this is a very good presentation. I'm excited about it. 00:39:41
I'd like to also have clarification on the ownership of it, because if you give out those stickers and. 00:39:45
Say I sell my bike to someone else. Do I do an ownership transfer? Yeah, So within the app, there's a way to transfer ownership. 00:39:53
OK? 00:39:57
The person you sold it to and then they would then take over. 00:40:02
Because like I said before it's just adhesive and ink on the on the shield and once it's installed it's it's not coming off for 00:40:05
better or worse we believe for better, but but yeah you can. 00:40:12
Transfer ownership to that. 00:40:18
Next owner through the app and then they would. 00:40:21
They would be the rightful owner within the platform and be able to access the information in there. Does the registration include 00:40:24
like pictures of the? 00:40:27
Thing. OK, yes, Yep. So you you include, you include, you can include as much information as you want. The bare minimum is just. 00:40:31
The serial number. 00:40:40
And the make and model. 00:40:42
But you can include we. 00:40:44
Obviously encourage more info than less, so you can include color where it was purchased, like the the bike shop that you purchase 00:40:46
it from. 00:40:50
Because they also keep track of the serial numbers of the bikes that they sell and so. 00:40:55
If a bike if, say, Vineyard wasn't. 00:40:59
Part of the five to nine platform. And so if someone found a bike, they wouldn't bring it to the city they could see. Oh, this was 00:41:02
purchased from Mad Dog Cycles in Orem. 00:41:07
I'll return it there and then they can keep, they can look up who it was sold to and. 00:41:13
And get it back to them. 00:41:18
Right. That's all I have for questions. 00:41:21
Cool. Thank you. Thanks, Kaden. Thanks. Thank you. 00:41:24
Next item is 3.3 Vineyard Beach update. Is this you Anthony? 00:41:28
I'm coming in there. 00:41:34
While he's getting set up, I have a question about how we would formally recommend that to the City Council. Sounds like later on 00:41:37
when we talked some of the priorities. Like it doesn't have to be infrastructure priorities, but if it's just, hey, we need. 00:41:44
Or signs. Hey, we think you should. 00:41:52
Budget $500.00 for this. If it's one of our priorities then that's probably the way to do it. 00:41:54
But at a minimum, I think we could also talk about just making sure they've got a booth maybe at no cost to them or something like 00:42:02
that at the. 00:42:05
Heritage Days. 00:42:09
Yeah. 00:42:12
To get people registered at least. 00:42:15
They want. 00:42:17
OK, so my name is Anthony Fletcher. We have two underneath in this room right now. 00:42:42
And we're doing great things. 00:42:48
Today I will be giving you a quick update on the Vineyard Beach improvements. 00:42:51
And you know, just to give you a good idea of what's what the city is planning to do and how, hopefully, you know, to just to also 00:42:57
keep our minds rolling on how we can contribute to this development in the future. 00:43:03
So this. 00:43:14
This presentation, I'll just go through this. 00:43:16
Current condition just the progress update and some. 00:43:19
Very little economic analysis that was conducted. 00:43:23
So we're already, I mean, most of us know this area, but just to give you a better context, Vineyard Beach is the entire. 00:43:26
The entire improvement is going to be in this area right here. I don't know if you can see my cursor. 00:43:38
But just to better Orient you, we have. 00:43:44
The vineyard connector. 00:43:46
And this area here is going to be block five of the. 00:43:48
Lake Promenade, which is a park. 00:43:55
And that also is going to be block 6 of it. This is the existing Lake Rd. 00:43:57
And we're going to have a UDOT bridge go over vineyard connector, which is going to probably start. 00:44:03
Construction later this year. 00:44:11
This is the current condition of the Vineyard beach. 00:44:16
Right here, there's nothing there, but we have a ton of people visit every day. 00:44:19
Better orientation. 00:44:26
That's a different angle of the Venus connector. 00:44:29
Lake Rd. Looking southward of the city. 00:44:32
So what have we done? 00:44:37
We have completed a. 00:44:39
Vineyard Waterfront Master plan. 00:44:42
For the entire lakefront area that I showed. 00:44:44
We have also completed a wetland delineation delineation we have also completed. 00:44:48
Phase One process design process with OJB. 00:44:56
And in this. 00:44:59
Whole discussion and you know planning. We have been consulting with local contractors to have real time numbers or quotes on how 00:45:01
things are going to cost. 00:45:07
As we plan, so we can. 00:45:14
Be making arrangements for funding and. 00:45:16
All that while we plan to be able to implement appropriately, we also have submitted a general permit. 00:45:19
Application to the forestry, fire and state lands. 00:45:27
And it's actually, you know, on the review right now, we keep going back and forth with comments. 00:45:31
And we're hoping to start something in that area. 00:45:37
That's the phase one. 00:45:41
By late spring. 00:45:43
As soon as we're able to go through all the permanent for the Upland area, we have ongoing discussions on aquatic engineering. 00:45:45
Because this project has been divided into two main parts. 00:45:54
So this is a graphic to show the connection of how it relates to the future of the city. 00:45:57
There's going to be a boardwalk retail. 00:46:04
Going north to South of the. 00:46:09
Of the park that's being proposed, we're going to have our City Hall right in the corner of. 00:46:13
Block five and six which is going to be. 00:46:19
These two. 00:46:22
And you know, overlooking the lake, the Lake Park we're going to have. 00:46:24
You know, a seamless. 00:46:30
Nice connection from the park. 00:46:32
All the way through these these parks to be able to get to the Vineyard station and this area here has been planned to be like a 00:46:34
retail center, a lot of ground floor retail restaurants and places where people can just go and. 00:46:42
You know, shop, have fun and, you know, interact with a lot of people. 00:46:50
Just a good meeting place. 00:46:55
So to give you a wider context, this is work in progress. 00:46:58
We are looking to have the northern part of Vineyard look more like that where we have. 00:47:02
A green loop. 00:47:09
Starts from. 00:47:11
The Vineyard Beach area that's going to be developed. 00:47:12
Going through the. 00:47:15
The Linear. The Promenade Park. 00:47:17
And crossing over through the Vineyard Station to the east side of Vineyard. 00:47:20
And then on to the north and circling back to. 00:47:25
Back to the Vineyard Beach Park on 1200 N. 00:47:31
So eventually when this is all built out and again this is still work in progress, we're going to have. 00:47:36
A more linear. 00:47:43
Green city loop that allows people to enjoy the city. 00:47:46
Without having. 00:47:51
Travel to a secluded park just to enjoy the serenity within the city. 00:47:52
This is a short video that just shows how it connects to. 00:48:02
The park connects to. 00:48:06
The vineyard. 00:48:08
Station. 00:48:10
Through the park. 00:48:12
Just a quick fly through. 00:48:14
So it's going to be a very busy area that allows people to just interact with different spaces for whatever preference they want. 00:48:17
Or they have in regards to. 00:48:24
And join spaces. 00:48:28
And that area right there is going to be that retail. 00:48:29
Spot that I talked. 00:48:33
So this is the overall design. 00:48:37
Our plan of the lakefront develop. 00:48:41
So that is the existing Lake Rd. 00:48:50
The project's been divided into two. We have the appland side scope. 00:48:54
Which is above the wetland delineation and the lowland which is right below the wetland delineation. 00:48:59
We have created a good connection between. 00:49:06
The Utah City Promenade Park is going to be a multi use trail which is about 15 feet wide with many pedestrian pots that connects 00:49:09
people from different parts of the park to the beach area where people can just interact with the water. We have you know planned 00:49:17
some pavilions that's going to have some you know hopefully restaurants and. 00:49:25
Restrooms and some storage places for maintenance of the space. 00:49:33
We have parks. It's going to be a dog park, It is going to be, you know, children's play area. This has actually been planned with 00:49:39
people in mind where we can program different spaces within this park to be used all throughout the year without having to worry 00:49:45
about even the weather constraints. 00:49:52
And as we work through this, we're going to you know get permits to be able to further help us because the. 00:50:00
The wetland side would need to dredge and create something that people can dredge deeper to make it, you know, one that people can 00:50:09
swim in and. 00:50:13
You know, have a lot more fun would have the peers that would allow people to be able to just walk up to the water without really 00:50:19
getting their feet wet. 00:50:23
And this is going to be awesome because you know how those peers bow in together? It's more like creating that serene environment 00:50:27
within the park space to allow people to enjoy that space in the future once it's all developed. 00:50:34
Maybe super specific question, but I was like a stakeholder for the whole planning effort and I remember them talking about how 00:50:45
there's like issues with like shearing forces when the leg freezes for the peers. 00:50:51
Do you know what they like ended up? 00:50:58
Deciding on the solution for that is. 00:51:01
I don't have a direct answer to that being the decision, however, with the aquatic engineering discussions that we have going. 00:51:04
They have that being considered as well as one of the big issues that we may be able to run into if not considered so. 00:51:12
I know it's in the talks for sure, but. 00:51:21
I don't have a direct answer when exact. 00:51:23
Things that could be done. And again, this is still schematic level. 00:51:26
Once we get to the point where we are. 00:51:30
About to implement this or have the real construction drawings done a lot of these engineering aspects of it to make it work. 00:51:34
Will be tackled. 00:51:42
So at the moment, we're concentrating on the outplant side. 00:51:43
Which is just everything north of the you know. 00:51:48
Wetland delineation and we don't have to deal with anything water freezing. 00:51:51
And wetland. 00:51:56
Pretty much for now. 00:51:57
Does that answer your question? 00:51:59
Help out. 00:52:01
So that's. 00:52:04
A rendering of how the multi use trail is going to look from one of the sections. 00:52:05
You know, just. 00:52:12
Narendra Show in the children's play area. 00:52:14
So I have a few cross sections here to give us a good perception of how Lake Rd. is going to be when all this is built out. 00:52:18
Because all this is being planned to be very walkable, bikeable and livable for Vineyard and its visitors. 00:52:27
So again, looking at that we have Section 1, which is further north of Lake Rd. 00:52:38
That would have the 15th, you know. 00:52:45
15 foot sidewalk it would have just this. 00:52:49
You know, orientation, where you have parking on one side, 10 foot wide streets, You know, those are, you know, pretty narrow. 00:52:52
You have. 00:53:00
Sidewalk on the Northside as well. 00:53:04
Just to make it very, you know, enclosed and. 00:53:06
You know, feel safe enough for pedestrians to use. 00:53:10
So that's. 00:53:16
Rendering of how it could look in that same kind of section. 00:53:18
On to the second section, which is the more central part of Lake Rd. You're going to see that we have two. 00:53:23
Car parking on both sides of the road. We still have our 15 foot sidewalk. I mean multi use trail. We have a N sidewalk as well. 00:53:30
That's ongoing with the medians. 00:53:39
And that's how it could look as well, you know with the Boardwalk retail, the north side on the east side. 00:53:45
And on the third section, which is more South of the Lake Rd. 00:53:57
Umm, we have. I don't know if you can see, but it's. 00:54:01
There's really not a curb. It's a curbless, you know, section where people can literally walk. 00:54:05
From the Block 6 Park. 00:54:12
I mean block 6 promenade right onto the road because the road is going to be like super textured and you know, different material. 00:54:15
And also. 00:54:24
Be able to cross all the way to the Parkside on the West side and enjoy the lake. We've made this. 00:54:27
Area this way to allow for a lot more accessibility and. 00:54:33
You know it will be created in a way that would allow more people to realize that that is a big crossing. It's a place where. 00:54:37
We're paying more attention to the people and not the cars. 00:54:45
So moving forward, this is a recap of. 00:54:49
You know the the scopes of the of the plan. We have the upland area which is being considered as phase one. 00:54:54
And going to be the main focus for now while we work through permitting. 00:55:02
To have phase two to five which is you know, full build out done. 00:55:07
So phase 1A, phase one has been again split into two. We have the A and the B. 00:55:15
So Phase 1A will be just clearing the land, removing vegetation, just masquerade in and that that's what will really start in 00:55:20
later spring if we're able to pull the permit from FFSL, we're just going to be doing more of this. 00:55:28
And we'll move on to. 00:55:37
The installation of. 00:55:40
Utilities and. 00:55:42
Also get the temporary trail. So last week there was a question on. 00:55:45
I mean, when we met informally, there was a question on. 00:55:50
Whether the temporary trail is going to be, that's going to be those broken lines on the north, on the West side of the. 00:55:53
Of the Lake Rd. 00:56:00
And there's, you know, there's going to be a trail there anyway, so they'll build out. 00:56:02
They would build that temporary trail in a way to connect with the existing trail to still have people accessing North and South 00:56:07
of this area. 00:56:11
Without the construction being a stumbling block. 00:56:16
So that's pretty much what phase one is going to be. 00:56:22
Be about and during all those phases, we will be working with the State Lands Army Corps. 00:56:27
Just to be able to get the permits that would allow us to do a lot more, which is you know getting the infrastructure that I. 00:56:32
The buildings that I showed earlier. 00:56:41
In place and get in. 00:56:44
Permits to even start. 00:56:47
Dredging and doing all the other things that could. 00:56:50
We're planning to do in the wetland area. 00:56:53
So it's not a one day A1 year process. 00:56:56
The hope is to get the app land. 00:57:00
Done first. 00:57:03
And then we'll keep working. 00:57:04
Umm, you know the other permanent permits needed to be able to get everything done? 00:57:07
And again, every phase is contingent on the initial phase being completed. We cannot move to phase three if phase one and two is 00:57:13
not done. 00:57:18
And phase four and five will be one that. 00:57:24
Primarily concentrates on that lakefront, you know the water part of things that's where the peers comes into play. 00:57:27
That's where all the. 00:57:35
The aquatic Engineering, the Sun Saber Walls and all those. 00:57:38
Heavy beach, you know, construction items and engineering will come into play and that would be. 00:57:42
Much later when we have gotten all the permits once again. 00:57:49
It's a big. 00:57:53
But we can do it. 00:57:54
So going on. 00:57:58
You know, the economic analysis that I have here is very basic. 00:58:02
But as of now with the current condition with nothing there. 00:58:06
You know it's just a plain 15 foot hill. 00:58:12
That you get, you have to get down on to access the beach. 00:58:16
You know we have had increase in number of visits since 20/21 and. 00:58:20
In 2021, we gathered about we met. I mean we recorded about 20, almost 23,000 visits in the space. 00:58:27
22,000, I mean in 2022. 00:58:34
We gathered almost 27,000. 00:58:37
And in 2023, we're going on almost 30,000 now. 00:58:40
With nothing there right now, we have people spending up to about 5055 minutes, right? 00:58:44
If we develop this out, have restaurants. 00:58:50
Have spaces where people can really go and play, interact with the water. 00:58:53
And spend some quality time on our beach we're going to have. 00:58:58
A lot more revenue even generated for the city because people would want to be here to enjoy this amenity. 00:59:02
And again. 00:59:09
These will connect with all our trails and you know parks that we have, so that would have people and join Vineyard as a whole and 00:59:11
not just this area. 00:59:16
But that would be one of the big draws to the city. 00:59:21
As you know, Utah City development um. 00:59:26
Has started. It's ongoing. We have Huntsman. 00:59:29
Cancer Institute. 00:59:33
Umm, coming in and they're going to be in that section. Who has been? 00:59:35
Implement. I mean it's showing on that graphic. 00:59:41
Capital follows people. 00:59:44
People would always follow place. 00:59:46
And place needs investment for things to make sense for that reason. 00:59:49
Once Huntsman comes in. 00:59:54
And the various developments that these developers are hoping to have in this area have been built out. A lot of people are really 00:59:56
going to follow this place. 01:00:01
And again, it will generate income for the city. 01:00:06
Raise a lot more. 01:00:10
Raise a lot more property values and, you know, just make everything a lot more better in the city for us. 01:00:13
The user City Development also is expected to have up to about 900 hotel rooms. 01:00:22
In this area. 01:00:29
With extended stay for people that will be using that Huntsman facility. 01:00:31
And it's going to be just gorgeous. 01:00:35
I mean, how beautiful is it going to be when you have, you know, someone in the hospital that could literally is recovering, that 01:00:38
could literally take a walk in the park and just enjoy some serene lakefront facility? 01:00:45
And also some great views of the mountains that surround the entire city. 01:00:53
Beautiful. So. 01:00:57
We can't wait to have this happen. 01:00:59
These are just some precedent cases of how. 01:01:02
Building well planned parks. 01:01:07
Have benefited cities in general. That's a park from Dallas, TX. That's another example from Houston that you know, all these 01:01:10
examples have literally. 01:01:16
Increase the values of properties around this area, which means all our values, all the property values that we have in our city. 01:01:24
Are going to be increased, which is going to be a good thing for residents and hopefully the city. 01:01:33
As a whole, that's another one in Oklahoma City. 01:01:39
And you know, we we took one of the finest landscape architects to help with this because they worked on these three that I've 01:01:43
shown you. 01:01:47
And these are living proof of how this will. 01:01:51
Positively benefit the city and residents as well as vistas around. 01:01:55
So that is pretty much the end of my presentation. 01:02:06
I will leave this video playing. It's just a short video to show you the entire project. 01:02:10
And you know. 01:02:17
How it's going to? 01:02:19
Look when it's all built out in the future. 01:02:21
And feel free to ask me questions if you have any. 01:02:25
While I'm here. 01:02:29
Thank you. 01:02:30
I was curious how. 01:02:35
The new composition of the City Council. 01:02:37
May alter or change these plans. 01:02:41
Has that come into play at all? 01:02:45
Or are we kind of still moving forward with the phases? 01:02:47
As is like how you presented it. 01:02:51
I mean at the moment we're not seeing that as an issue because the master plan has been approved I. 01:02:54
You know, a while back. 01:03:01
We even have some money from the county we recently had. Actually in 2020 we were given about almost $3,000,000. 01:03:03
That we haven't used. What we're trying to do was to get this in place because when we had the money. 01:03:13
We didn't have all these plans in place. 01:03:19
So we've gotten all this in place now, and. 01:03:22
Unfortunately the money sort of expired last year, but we have an extension right now. 01:03:25
24 month extension and once we get. 01:03:31
We get the permit from FFSL. 01:03:34
It's probably going to be gone in a few months with just great and you know, getting phase one done. 01:03:37
It may not be enough for just the face one. 01:03:43
So that money is just going to burnout pretty soon and that? 01:03:46
You know it's at this point. 01:03:50
With that approved master plan, we will just be working with our, you know, with our staff and consultants and engineers. 01:03:52
To make sure whatever is going to be built in. 01:04:00
Will be one that is. 01:04:03
You know of good quality and 1:00 that's going to last. 01:04:06
We will be presenting or submitting an application. You know it's a city project, so. 01:04:09
There will be an application coming to Planning Commission pretty soon. 01:04:15
Where the Planning Commission would. 01:04:19
Review the entire design and you know. 01:04:21
Get like a site plan and it will just move on like every other city project that we have. 01:04:27
Because at this point it's been approved, so. 01:04:33
Excellent. 01:04:37
It's amazing how clear that water is. 01:04:40
Hopefully after dredging it could change the color. 01:04:45
I don't know. 01:04:49
But it's beautiful. 01:04:53
I I have a good. 01:04:56
Sorry, no. 01:05:02
I had a quick question, sure on vehicular circulation. 01:05:05
And assuming that. 01:05:10
You don't. 01:05:13
This road. 01:05:15
To. 01:05:17
Heavily traveled through, right? This is the destination. 01:05:19
Yes, it is. Is that correct? Yep. And so. 01:05:23
Can you just give a quick overview of what the? 01:05:29
Circulation patterns are expected or planned. Circulation patterns are already. 01:05:33
Keep this from becoming a. 01:05:37
Very busy through Rd. 01:05:40
Yeah, I could try. 01:05:43
So you know we have that vineyard connector being built right on the. 01:05:46
What east side of it? And that is expected to be more of the thorough Rd. 01:05:53
We're a lot more traffic is going to. 01:05:59
Be going on to. 01:06:02
And pretty much the Lake Rd. Would be one that would serve, you know, people trying to visit the lake. 01:06:03
The boardwalk, retail and literally the area. 01:06:12
Right on the side. 01:06:18
West off. 01:06:20
Vineyard connector. So vineyard connector would carry most of the. 01:06:21
The Lake Rd. is intended to be one that just helps people move across. 01:06:26
The lens of this park and you know, through the, you know, other parts of the city with very, very low speed. 01:06:30
To encourage people walk and use either micro mobility. 01:06:38
You know transportation modes that may be available. 01:06:44
It is not intended to be. 01:06:49
A major thoroughfare. 01:06:51
Vehicles within the region. 01:06:54
Vineyard Connector will be. That's the intended plan for this. 01:06:56
I don't know if that answers your question. 01:07:00
Yeah, I I think. I think it begins to light. 01:07:03
Sorry, it's always my fear that that the destination Rd. becomes. 01:07:11
A thoroughfare. 01:07:16
Yeah, because. 01:07:19
People for whatever reason. 01:07:20
Umm, but. 01:07:24
It looks like. 01:07:27
The design. 01:07:30
The current design and the. 01:07:32
Configuration should help. 01:07:36
With keeping speeds low. 01:07:39
Very. And when you say very, how slow are you? 01:07:42
Thank you. So we, it's funny, but we were having the discussion you know with engineering. 01:07:47
A couple of weeks ago. 01:07:54
Because currently we own the street, right? But we don't we're working with the county because this was dedicated to us from the 01:07:55
county went Vineyard City incorporated into a city. 01:08:01
But hasn't been. 01:08:08
Formal paperwork and all that completed yet. So we're working on that. But once we have all that completed and we formally own the 01:08:09
street. 01:08:13
You know, according to our engineering team, we can. 01:08:18
Dictate more on how fast things will go, but the intention is you know how I. 01:08:22
I did show in this part where. 01:08:27
We have a curbless kind of transition from the park. 01:08:31
All the way through. 01:08:34
We are intending to make this entire area through the roundabout to the side extremely slow to accommodate for that. 01:08:36
So that people don't get run over. 01:08:46
And they, you know, we have had talks of. 01:08:49
Implementing some really good traffic common measures even before you get to that spot. So heading up from. 01:08:54
The West side over to this side might have some heavy traffic coming. 01:09:03
You know, a rough, you know, not regular asphalt Rd. just some textured Rd. 01:09:09
To allow drivers in there to be almost uncomfortable driving, to encourage people. 01:09:14
9 inch rock, 9 inch column. 01:09:21
That that could also be, you know, but we've had that discussion to make it almost uncomfortable to drive. 01:09:25
To only allow uncomfortable to drive, but good enough to allow 80 access. 01:09:32
In that area as well. So that's these are all discussions that we are having. 01:09:37
And it will be. 01:09:42
More specific on material. 01:09:44
And textures as we move further in this process trying to get permits and. 01:09:47
Construction drawings finalized. 01:09:55
So thank you. 01:09:57
Any other questions for Anthony? 01:10:01
Could you, could you please come to Mike if you got a question That way we can capture it a little easier. 01:10:09
Jacob Wood, I was just going to ask if you have a timeline for when you start this, when you get? 01:10:18
So thank you Jacob, if everything goes well. 01:10:29
If everything goes well, we're likely to. 01:10:34
Start something late spring. 01:10:37
With you know that's the grade in and just preparing the land for all of this late, late spring, early summer. 01:10:39
We're just trying to get permits at this point from the state. 01:10:46
Because even though it's in Vignette city, that area really belongs to the state so. 01:10:49
Another question. 01:10:57
My name is Adam Tusher. I'm also a resident. 01:11:00
This is maybe slightly off topic, but I think it's related enough. So you mentioned that there's like a. 01:11:03
15 foot. 01:11:08
Path of some kind that's going to be you know multi use or whatever and that it's going to tie into other. 01:11:09
Paths in the city in theory and. 01:11:15
You showed that sort of fly over view thing and recognizing that it's still in the early stages. 01:11:17
Is there going to be some kind of a path between this area and the front runner station of that same variety? Because I didn't see 01:11:26
that in the fly through. I was just curious if that's intended or not. 01:11:31
Thank you. It is intended to have a connection right from the lake. 01:11:39
Through to the front runner station. 01:11:44
I can show you that. 01:11:46
It's a long ways. 01:12:02
So this is one that could, you know help you better understand. 01:12:12
So this is going to be the. 01:12:17
The Vineyard Beach area. 01:12:19
This is the Linear Park Promenade Park. 01:12:22
That will connect all the way through. 01:12:25
To the vineyard station. 01:12:29
And also make a connection to the east side of Vineyard. 01:12:31
So it is intended to have. 01:12:34
I mean, this Promenade park is. 01:12:37
One that is intended to just. 01:12:40
Yeah, Welcome people at the Vineyard station. 01:12:45
With this really nice retail center that just. 01:12:48
You know, dovetails into. 01:12:52
This beautiful park that just walks you down to. 01:12:54
The lakefront park, so that's definitely going to be a strong connection between the park and. 01:12:58
Video station and beyond. 01:13:06
This might be a little more off topic, but some of the visits Vineyard Beach often. First of all, I've never seen anybody touch 01:13:16
the water because the water is pretty nasty. So are you concerned about that? Would you like to see the state or city or outside 01:13:21
party? Try to? 01:13:26
Work on the lake more. 01:13:33
And the second question, another. 01:13:34
Weird one is bugs are concerned about the. 01:13:36
Amount of bugs that might. 01:13:39
Impact the area. 01:13:43
Thank you. These are very legit questions and they came up during our presentation with the Planning Commission, very, very legit 01:13:47
so. 01:13:51
With the water. 01:13:57
The plan is to have a sun save a wall. 01:13:59
Built on this side. 01:14:02
The lake, and again once that is built and the dredging is done. 01:14:04
That area could be, to some extent, treated. 01:14:11
To have better water than it is on the other side of the lake, I mean it's gonna flow through, but it's not gonna be the same 01:14:14
because it's deeper and. 01:14:18
It would have a lot more to it than it is right now, so. 01:14:23
It will be better we have I did mention we're. 01:14:28
We have started. Umm. 01:14:32
The aquatic engineering conversation and all these things. 01:14:34
Are involved in that as well. 01:14:39
With the Bucks, it came as a suggestion. 01:14:41
From the Planning Commission as well, it is something that I mean we're looking to hopefully hire an entomologist as part of the 01:14:45
team. 01:14:50
As we plan this out. 01:14:55
It's not been, there's no decision made on it right now, but it's definitely a problem in that area and we're looking to have at 01:14:58
least an entomologist be part of the team to advise on the right vegetation and you know. 01:15:06
Probably the introduction. 01:15:14
Some sort of. 01:15:15
You know wildlife. 01:15:19
To help this out. 01:15:20
In the future, I'm not. There's nothing cast in stone right now. 01:15:23
Nothing has been decided, but we will. 01:15:27
Definitely have to. 01:15:29
Employ the services of. 01:15:33
Someone who's an expert in. 01:15:34
These things. 01:15:37
To definitely get it safer and nicer out there. I don't think it'll ever replace like a swimming pool like that. Someone wants to 01:15:38
just go swimming. But you know, paddle boards, kayaks, I think that's. 01:15:44
In my opinion, what it would likely be. 01:15:50
Mostly used for. 01:15:53
Yeah, and there's going to be an Aquatic Center, which would have that swimming pool. 01:15:54
Right across from the, you know. 01:15:58
The City Hall, I mean. 01:16:01
This area right here. 01:16:03
So if you really want to swim, and that's not clean enough for you, you just. 01:16:05
Hopefully walk across the park and. 01:16:10
You have a beautiful. 01:16:12
Pool to swim in. 01:16:14
If that's built. 01:16:16
So that's all part of what's in the works right now. 01:16:17
Good. Any other questions? 01:16:24
OK. Thanks, Anthony. 01:16:27
Thank you. 01:16:29
All right. The next thing we'll keep moving this along are consent items. This is for past meetings. 01:16:32
Those were attached to the bottom of the agenda that was sent out today. 01:16:40
I looked and I think Jordan and Mikey were the only two that were there for both of the meetings that that's up here now. So if 01:16:45
either one of you have had a chance to look over those and are willing to make a motion to approve them, feel free. 01:16:51
I move to approve them all right. Can I get a second second? 01:16:59
All right, all in favor. 01:17:02
Aye, aye. 01:17:04
Unless you're opposed to it, so OK. 01:17:06
All right. So the consent items. 01:17:10
Those minutes as presented. 01:17:14
Been approved and this can be published to the site. 01:17:16
The next few things that we'll get into here, who made the first motion, please? I did, Jordan. 01:17:19
And seconded by Mike. 01:17:24
So we'll move on to business item 5.1. This is election of a Bicycle Advisory Commission chair. 01:17:28
Now my understanding is we're not electing a vice chair because. 01:17:34
Was elected vice chair and will continue to be vice chair. Is that? That's right, Correct. OK. 01:17:38
All right, so we just need to. 01:17:43
Come to a consensus on. 01:17:45
Bicycle Advisory Commission Chair and We Just Need. 01:17:48
At least three to support. 01:17:51
So if there's any nominations for a chair, you can put forward a nomination or nominate yourself if you'd like. 01:17:53
I nominate Anthony Jenkins, OK. I mean. 01:18:00
I second it. 01:18:05
OK, there we go. 01:18:07
All right. So Jordans put forward me, Anthony, as. 01:18:10
Bike Advisory Commission chair. 01:18:15
And I had a second from Chris, all in favor. 01:18:17
Aye, aye. OK. 01:18:21
Anthony, anything from us beyond that? No, so I would want to just remind you that. 01:18:24
You know, as the chair you will be coordinated most, most of this, facilitating most of the meetings like you have been, you know 01:18:32
you did today. I think you've done a great job. 01:18:35
And you will be one of the very, you know, main contact. 01:18:40
To make recommendations to council you or your designee or your vice. Could you know anyone you designate to do this. Could do 01:18:46
this during City Council meetings or work through. 01:18:52
Any projects that we have in the future? 01:18:59
And also as a side note, we do not have bylaws for this Commission. 01:19:03
So would want to have. 01:19:09
At least two of. 01:19:13
The Commissioners that we have here. 01:19:16
Work together with staff in putting together. 01:19:18
Bylaws that could be Pat. I mean could be. 01:19:21
Discussed in our next meeting. 01:19:24
To be able to have things more structured. 01:19:26
Because if we have a chair and a vice chair want to be able to just create better roles for everyone that's on the Commission. 01:19:29
Have you 2 that are not here from Vineyard works with other bike commissions that you think would be worth like looking up their 01:19:33
bylaws that. 01:19:38
Something to replicate? 01:19:43
No shining examples. You are it OK? 01:19:46
Worked with other Bicyclizer committees, but not that we're. 01:19:53
That organized All right. 01:19:58
And one other thing to consider as well, now that we have a chair. 01:20:02
And a vice chair. We have a full house as well. Is the consideration of possibly changing the name of BAC. 01:20:07
To one that reflects active transportation, it's something for you to discuss. If you all want it, you could have it as. 01:20:15
Something that we passed alongside with our bylaws as well, so you could be thinking about it. 01:20:23
Because whatever we do as a BAC make good recommendations and. 01:20:32
Hopefully change things in the code that would allow us to. 01:20:37
You know, apply for grants and be able to work on certain. 01:20:44
Projects that we want to work on. 01:20:47
It will be good to. 01:20:49
Pretty much. 01:20:53
Have wanted to. 01:20:57
Everything we do effects more than bike, Yeah, pretty much that's it. 01:20:58
Pedestrians, active, trans and all that. There's something think about so. 01:21:02
I personally wouldn't know the 1st place to start with bylaw, so I'd appreciate it if staff could take at least the first swing at 01:21:06
recommend and then I'm happy to be on that and if anyone else is interested in. 01:21:11
Bylaws we can have. 01:21:17
More than two on it, because then we'd be a corner, then you'd be a quorum. So just two maximum. 01:21:19
OK. But yeah, if you could, if Saff could take a. 01:21:24
First, stab it recommending on the bylaws, That'd be great. 01:21:28
All right. Anyone else interested in being part of this, I'm happy to help. Happy, OK. 01:21:33
Thanks, Mike. 01:21:41
All right. The next item 5.2, is the 2024 scheduled meeting calendar. Anthony handed that out to everybody. 01:21:44
You can take a peek at that. 01:21:51
This would propose you know you can see ours. Today is the first one of the year. 01:21:53
And then the next one would be April 23rd. That's when we could talk about bylaws and the name, but also probably plan a little 01:21:58
bit for Bike Month in May. 01:22:02
And holding a meeting in May. 01:22:06
For Bike Month in July, September and the only decision that needs to be made is. 01:22:08
In November, we'd only have one of those two. 01:22:13
The 12th of the 19th. 01:22:16
19 The option of the 12th was presented because the 19th is getting close to the. 01:22:18
Thanksgiving holiday. 01:22:23
So any thoughts or discussion on? 01:22:26
The meeting schedule. 01:22:28
I'd probably prefer the 12th. 01:22:30
OK. 01:22:33
Is the meeting in April going to give us enough time for? 01:22:35
Bike Month activities and or do we have yeah, last year. 01:22:40
Was that Anna? That kind of took the lead on a lot of the events. Does she already have? 01:22:47
Pretty good plan. I saw they've got the magnets made that have some stuff set in stone already. So yeah, yeah, just kind of 01:22:53
support. So we have a meeting scheduled with, I mean that's staff, we'll be meeting with Anna to just discuss what the entire 01:22:59
layout is going to be and then have it presented to. 01:23:05
BAC So I will be sending out an e-mail after my discussion with Anna because she's the events coordinator so. 01:23:12
We can know how to. 01:23:19
Pretty much meat. We can literally schedule another meeting outside of this as a special session if we need to do more, and we 01:23:22
could just coordinate that through e-mail. 01:23:27
To make sure we're all on the same page if. 01:23:32
That April meeting is not going to be enough to apply for Bike Month. 01:23:35
OK, OK. 01:23:39
All right, Well, if that's the case, then I just need someone to put forward a motion and then specify that November 12th and not 01:23:42
the 19th. 01:23:45
OK. 01:23:52
Have a second for the. 01:23:55
The meeting schedule as is with the 12 a second. OK, All in favor, aye? 01:23:57
All right. So that will be set and then Anthony will help get that on the website so everyone can see the public meetings. 01:24:03
If you flip over your agenda, there's just a couple. 01:24:13
Couple last things here. Item 5.3. 01:24:16
Is planning for the 2024 potential projects and events. This doesn't mean that we have to figure everything out right now, but. 01:24:19
We do want to have a discussion on potential priority projects. 01:24:26
Anthony sent out a note to everybody that has come with maybe one or two. 01:24:32
Projects in mind. 01:24:36
Obviously it will be up to City Council if it's needs funding or things like that or what to prioritize, but we could at least 01:24:38
share that with them so. 01:24:41
Anthony, we're just thinking we could each. 01:24:46
Share some of our ideas here and make sure they're captured, OK. And also before you start that, I just wanted to remind you that 01:24:48
we, you know. 01:24:52
Before this meeting, before this year, we did some two surveys. We had commissioners ride North and South vineyard and identify 01:24:57
hot spots in the survey and we created this heat map here identifying these hot hot spots within the city that. 01:25:06
Were particularly unsafe. 01:25:17
To write in did not feel safe at all. 01:25:20
For people to even walk those areas, so that's just to give you a fair idea. 01:25:23
So. 01:25:31
Just to click off the conversation, you could piggyback on this data that we have and this is data that we gathered from our 01:25:36
commissioners. 01:25:40
Writing and filling out the. 01:25:44
Survey that we sent out. 01:25:47
So some of these issues are addressed with the Active transportation plan. 01:25:50
Do you have any idea what the status of? 01:25:55
Making progress on that plan is. 01:25:59
Can you, can I say that again? Can you say that again? Yeah, So the active transportation plan that we talked about like a year 01:26:02
ago and then the City Council approved. 01:26:07
Had a list of like 5 prioritized projects I want to say. 01:26:13
Including a lot of these. 01:26:17
Hot spots here, Do you know like what action has been taken or? 01:26:19
What status that? 01:26:26
Plan is in right now. 01:26:28
You know, I I don't know. 01:26:31
If any action has been taken at the time I joined the city UM. 01:26:34
I know that the active transportation had just been approved by the Council. 01:26:40
So it's up to us now. That's why we're restructuring, restructuring the BAC. 01:26:45
To be one that would take the lead in some of these projects that were recommended. 01:26:50
We have some projects, again recommended by the connectivity study that was presented by Chris from Bike Utah and we you know. 01:26:57
It comes with different perspectives on how these should be prioritized and up to us as a Commission or being up to you as a 01:27:08
Commission, you can push these projects to move forward. 01:27:15
By making more solid recommendations rather than having it in the document, we can get more. 01:27:23
Specific to, but I do think it's a good priority to say like let's follow the plan that we've got like it sounds very simple but. 01:27:29
You'd be surprised how many plans are made and not executed, right? Or maybe not surprised. 01:27:37
But I think that's a great priority. 01:27:41
Is to do what we said we were going to do. That's a good place to start. 01:27:45
Any other thoughts that you had and we can just go down the road and see if there's any. Yeah, I think just with that plan, I know 01:27:50
that we had or. 01:27:53
Somebody, I don't know if we personally had prioritized the projects there, but it seemed like a pretty good prioritization 01:27:57
strategy in that. 01:28:01
Like the pedestrian bridge or some sort of connection at 400 N across the railroad tracks was on there, but it wasn't necessarily 01:28:05
the top one. 01:28:09
Just because it was a larger capital project. 01:28:14
I think Main St. 01:28:17
Improvements of repurposing a lane. 01:28:19
To be a biking pedestrian lane was near the top. 01:28:24
That still seems like a good idea. 01:28:30
And then otherwise I think what wasn't on that plan? 01:28:33
That maybe we should add to is the. 01:28:38
Kind of the gaps, the smaller connections that we. 01:28:41
Looked at with the connectivity analysis. Yeah, I know there's a number of. 01:28:44
There's a number of those just in my own neighborhood that. 01:28:50
Umm, could give? 01:28:53
More local buy in with like the HOA and just the neighborhood if the city came. 01:28:55
With funds to. 01:29:01
Remove the wall and put in the sidewalk and stuff like that, yeah. 01:29:05
Jordan, would you mind if you can find what you're referring to and get it to Anthony to send out to everybody? I think that would 01:29:09
be a good thing for everyone to review. That's good. 01:29:14
Jim, did you have an, I know you're coming in with a kind of an outside review, but any any immediate priorities or thoughts that 01:29:19
you'd? 01:29:23
Want to bring up? 01:29:26
I think my immediate priority is. 01:29:28
Something that was just. 01:29:30
Just mentioned is that we have a plan. 01:29:32
I think the plan is the we have to let the plan be the foundation we work from. 01:29:35
Umm the. 01:29:42
Outside agencies that will bring funding and resources to bear. 01:29:45
To help implement that plan, are going to look at that plan and going to look. 01:29:50
Are we implementing the plan? Are we using? 01:29:54
An adopted plan. 01:29:57
For our efforts. 01:29:59
It will make working with udot and make working with other state project. 01:30:01
State agencies that will make working with Utah County and with Mag. 01:30:06
Feasible. 01:30:11
Whereas not working from the plan is going to be really hard to get. 01:30:13
Access to. 01:30:18
Yeah, got it. 01:30:20
In this, Anthony, you've got this, pulled up this. 01:30:22
This is all those projects. 01:30:25
OK. 01:30:34
Yeah, one of my. 01:30:36
Thoughts that I'll share like I'm big on the connectivity, so I think there's a huge opportunity. 01:30:38
Up here to connect our. 01:30:44
Lake Trail to the. 01:30:46
Linden Heritage Trail, which then goes on to the Murdoch Canal Trail as well. 01:30:48
But looks like Naseem is going to grace us with some of his. 01:30:54
Thoughts here? 01:30:58
It seems good there are other works director, said Engineer. I'm kind of doing this off my phone to see what. 01:31:03
On the priority list there's black circles and white circles. I forget which ones what, but just kind of give you a rundown of. 01:31:10
The priorities from what I can see. 01:31:20
That's listed on on the block circles one through. 01:31:22
Whatever they can find is so for example #1. 01:31:27
Is. If you can, can you zoom in at all? Anthony? OK, so #1 is. 01:31:31
Tucker Rowe. 01:31:40
Area just South of Tucker Row. 01:31:41
Just West or excuse me, east of Pennant Springs Park. 01:31:44
That I believe was finishing a trail connection that where the trail kind decided to stop like 5 feet before another trail, it was 01:31:48
just kind of like. 01:31:53
You know. 01:31:58
Where runners were expected to do a long jump. 01:32:00
I guess we did that connection last season. We did that along with the bus paths that we did around the City of ETA bus Paths, so 01:32:03
that that's complete. 01:32:08
#2 I don't think I could Oh yeah, #2 is the is all in Vineyard Rd. 01:32:14
Right. Where Bridgeport, yeah that's kind of at the connection where Bridgeport and. 01:32:19
Forgive me, I don't know the names of all these neighborhoods, even though I should, but it's just north of that. But the 01:32:25
waterfront? The waterfront? E HOA's. 01:32:31
Area, that particular one, we added a pedestrian flasher and A crossing as well as the ramps, pedestrian ramps to allow for. 01:32:38
People to cross along a trail. 01:32:50
The trail wasn't. It wasn't direct connection on a trail because there was a very large transformer in the way. That transformer I 01:32:53
had contractor just told me that it would be better to read to offset the trail connection than to move a transformer. 01:33:00
And when contractors tell you that they don't want all the money that would be involved, it's pretty scary. 01:33:08
So I think we kind of estimates about 150,000 ish dollars to move. 01:33:13
So we made that connection. It has RFB, the rapid flashing beacons there. 01:33:18
#3 I'm trying to remember trying to see where #3 was. 01:33:27
The train station, OK, Train station. 01:33:34
Can you zoom in? 01:33:40
OK. So sorry. So the train station, that one I believe we were going to, we're looking at doing a pedestrian. 01:33:41
Some type of pedestrian crossing. That's that's the long range planning. 01:33:47
But if you go just further north of that toy one. 01:33:52
I guess the next closest thing would be the. 01:33:58
Where in the midst of a. 01:34:01
1200 N because that's considered 1200 N 1200 N overpass over the trains. 01:34:07
Station. 01:34:14
And I know that we've had conversations with UVU, which is a set which is where #3 would be in order to provide connection as part 01:34:15
of our station area plan as well as trying to get mobility. 01:34:20
Mobility Hub plan put together. 01:34:26
On that. So I think #3 is high of a priority. It is that is a longer. 01:34:28
Route to go just because it has a lot more moving parts, especially with one of the moving parts being Union Pacific. 01:34:34
So question I've got for you, just because I know we're not going to go through every single one of those, do you have an updated 01:34:40
list of? 01:34:44
The ones that are still pending. 01:34:48
Yeah. So what we can do is we can. If we could get that, then that would help me at least say like basically here's the menu. What 01:34:50
on here do I think is the highest? Doesn't mean it'll end up being that way. But yeah, we can do a spreadsheet and kind of just 01:34:56
put that as a prioritization, just kind of go down a little bit, just not that much. But #4 is over at Center St. and Holloway Rd. 01:35:02
Like that we added. 01:35:10
RFP and also we did a pedestrian refuge. 01:35:13
At that section and then. 01:35:17
We also have mag funding in order to enhance that with the overhead talk. 01:35:20
Crosswalk hawk as well. 01:35:25
And. 01:35:28
So we're acting at #5. Is the center the roundabout at? 01:35:30
Main Street and Center St. 01:35:36
We're working. We work with the developer on Holloway Fields, which is South at Main St. in. 01:35:38
Foreigners S They're putting together. 01:35:46
A roundabout there which is going to have the RFP's at the crosswalks. 01:35:50
And we were. What we're going to do is. 01:35:55
See how that goes and then if how well that goes. We're planning on implementing that type of standard across the city. 01:35:58
RFAS again, they're. 01:36:06
You know, I don't want to say things cost more than you in life, but I'm saying the RFP's do take a while and so forth to get each 01:36:07
one. Each pair is about like a. 01:36:12
Each pair is about 8 to $10,000, which again we again if it's worthwhile to do and so forth at the roundabouts, that's the areas 01:36:17
that it's like, you know what is the best use or what's the best option. 01:36:23
Out there we talked about pulling the crosswalk back from the roundabouts. We talked about RFP's. 01:36:30
We're looking at other options out there. We had meeting with Orem City. 01:36:35
Today, there are. 01:36:40
The interim city engineer and as well as the transportation. 01:36:42
Engineer, we have some discussions of their thoughts about roundabouts as well. So we're actively putting together good action 01:36:46
plan. One thing we don't want to do and again, I don't mind doing something that doesn't work and then redoing it again. But we 01:36:52
just have to be cautious that we want to put something that put something down, don't want to try too many times or else people 01:36:58
just start kind of ignoring like the precautions that we put out there. 01:37:04
And then we are also applying for a Safe Streets for All planning grant. 01:37:11
That mainly going towards the Geneva corridor along four 1600 N through 400 S as well. We just had a discussion yesterday. 01:37:18
With mag. 01:37:28
And starting to work with the planners, we talked to DLT and as well as to warm. 01:37:29
To get all those type of things together and with the focus about the pedestrian enhancements. 01:37:35
Nice. Yeah. So if nothing else, I think this shows that things that were prioritized. 01:37:41
Tend to get done right, which is great. So the priorities are good. So if. 01:37:46
Nassim, you and Anthony can send us a list of open. 01:37:50
Things Open projects. We can help prioritize some of those. 01:37:54
We'll keep moving along, but Mike Crescenti? 01:37:58
Top of mind projects or priorities that you have. 01:38:00
Nothing new, nothing new. 01:38:06
I think. 01:38:10
Just what Jim was saying, just follow the plan. 01:38:12
And I think if you do find things that are lacking. 01:38:16
You can always update the plan so it's not. 01:38:21
The Bible or something. 01:38:24
Got it. 01:38:27
The last item here, then we'll move along is events that this Commission can initiate or contribute to. We know there's Bike 01:38:31
Month, which we'll talk about on the next agenda. But Anthony, was there anything else you were thinking of or is this kind of 01:38:36
brainstorming if there's any other events that we can? 01:38:41
Do here. 01:38:47
Yeah, just something. I also did start as conversation with Anna, the event. 01:38:51
Person that we have here the event manager, so it will be a good idea to. 01:38:58
Make vineyard. 01:39:05
BAC more popular in the city by just. 01:39:08
Plug it into existing programs other than just Bike Month. 01:39:12
Through things like bike valets. 01:39:16
And encouraging people to just ride to city events like, you know, the Boapalooza and many other city events that happen in the 01:39:18
parks. 01:39:23
So we, you know, as a Commission, should. 01:39:29
Be looking at opportunities and options to. 01:39:33
You know, plugged into these events with Pike valets to begin with. 01:39:39
So that's something we could discuss and probably start working on as a Commission. 01:39:45
Interesting. Yeah. I mean. 01:39:50
I agree. I think our big events, basically anytime there's a parking issue, you should think, hey, maybe a bike is a solution 01:39:53
here, right? So big events. 01:39:57
Saturdays for rec league, you know, encouraging people to bike and walk when you can. I think that's that's good. I'm open to 01:40:02
ideas. So we I know I've been exploring opportunities around Bike Walk Provo. 01:40:10
I'm not. 01:40:19
Entirely certain that they do that, but I. 01:40:20
I heard that they've been doing that in the past. 01:40:23
You know bicycle collective as well, so we just have to explore these options and see what might be cost effective if it comes 01:40:26
with some cost. 01:40:31
And umm. 01:40:36
Hopefully have. 01:40:38
The BAC recommend this to council so we can just move forward. 01:40:39
As well. So that's something that we could be looking at. 01:40:45
As we plug into existing events. 01:40:49
I like that. 01:40:55
Any thoughts or discussion on that? 01:40:58
Where connections are inside info on bike valets if it's worth doing or. 01:41:00
And I can get you in touch with. 01:41:06
People who have done it, and you can. 01:41:08
Ask them OK. 01:41:11
I get. Yeah, I guess it's. 01:41:13
How committed are you to it? Yeah, I'm sure it's a big undertaking, yeah. 01:41:15
With their feel like they're. 01:41:21
Maybe some interest in like? 01:41:24
A project or event is focused on like tactical urbanism stuff like come paint to. 01:41:27
Crosswalk or. 01:41:34
Redesign in the intersection with traffic codes or something like that. 01:41:36
Would that be a? 01:41:40
I don't know exactly how that would actually work. 01:41:44
People in the community to do that kind of stuff. It depends how rogue it is in coordination with the city. I don't want to be 01:41:48
sponsoring something where it's like. 01:41:52
Go do something reckless that the city is going to be mad at, but yeah. 01:41:57
But yeah, ideas around like, how do you get involved? How do you? 01:42:02
There was one point last summer where a bunch of kids went and wrote like nice messages on the trail, which was pretty cool. 01:42:06
Yeah, so even something like that, yeah, there's lots of things we can do. Interesting. 01:42:14
The other thing I was thinking of, if you go to like a bike race or. 01:42:19
Triathlon or whatever it might be. They have the temporary bike racks. 01:42:23
That aren't always there. You could do something like that at events too and just rope them off. 01:42:28
Maybe it's not as fancy as a bike valet, but you know, if you had a few people sitting there or a sheriff, that would probably do 01:42:34
the job, right? So. 01:42:37
Yeah, we can get creative with it. But yeah, I think. 01:42:42
In short, we can let Anna know. 01:42:45
We're interested in at least being part of the discussion for any of the events. Yeah, I mean, I I know we, you know it's going 01:42:47
to. 01:42:51
Be a, you know, a curve where we will not have a lot of people probably patronize it the first time. 01:42:55
But once people realized that, hey, I could bring my bike and it would not get stolen and it will be safe throughout the entire, 01:43:01
you know, event. 01:43:06
It would encourage people to talk about it and the word is just going to go out if. 01:43:10
At least 10 people come in. 01:43:15
Are able to take their bikes back home. 01:43:17
Yeah, so. 01:43:20
Good point. It's baby steps. Yeah. 01:43:22
Any other discussions on events? 01:43:24
OK, we'll move on. Last thing is. 01:43:28
Just reports or updates that anybody has. So Mike, anything from you Chris? 01:43:32
Jim Jordan, anything from staff that we need to hear before we? 01:43:37
Adjourn. 01:43:41
I'm going to see the worst director saying here, just a couple of updates and I know it's not, it might not be exactly on our ATP 01:43:48
specifically. 01:43:53
But something that you mentioned remind me of. It's short term memory I guess, but. 01:43:59
Patrick. 01:44:07
Our engineer and myself we met with today. 01:44:09
Taggart, who's their current interim city engineer? 01:44:13
As well as. 01:44:17
There are a newer transportation engineer. 01:44:19
We we both went, did our master's public administration. You know, the joke is that the, well, I shouldn't say on record, but he 01:44:23
helped me with a lot of my classes. 01:44:27
But one of the good things that during our discussions that came up and. 01:44:33
It was something that they actually brought. They were they actually came with some preparation. Was the 400 S corridor right by 01:44:39
the intersection in Geneva, part of the Safe Streets for All program that is being done spearheaded by MAG? 01:44:47
Is they, you know, they look and they're doing this county wide, not just veneer specific. 01:44:56
Is that they look at areas that have high Umm. 01:45:03
Incident rates being fatalities, serious crashes pedestrians. 01:45:07
Vehicles. Whatever. 01:45:12
400 N at that. 01:45:15
S Circle curve was one of them, but then the other area that the kind of border is the arm and vineyard area was. 01:45:18
400 S not just the. I mean they didn't. They only went up to 2022 when it came to crash records. But I. 01:45:26
Obviously, you know Dave, we provide feedback and you know that was one of the more recent events of the young lady who was hit 01:45:35
and killed was one of those items. 01:45:39
And uh. 01:45:44
That is one of the items that when I said the Geneva corridor. 01:45:46
Looking at doing something on the Geneva corridor, we're we're trying to, we're expecting to. 01:45:51
Bring the Geneva corridor to kind of wrap around to the quarter South. So it's not just the Geneva section, the road. 01:45:56
And ARM came with some ideas. 01:46:04
Work as part of it. The Northside is owned by Orange, the South sides vineyard, and then you have U dot mixed in the middle 01:46:07
somewhere. 01:46:10
All three of the agencies are on board. 01:46:14
To do improvements on lawn there what some of it is providing? 01:46:17
Dare I say the bike line? That's a little bit more pronounced. 01:46:24
Also and then also to provide cars the ability to park alongside the roads with and then. 01:46:28
Provided by clients to safer access. We talked about doing bowl bouts and then. 01:46:33
And we're investigating on how does it make sense to put like a crosswalk. 01:46:40
Closer to this intersection Geneva and kind of and also. 01:46:44
Adding turn lines or reducing the turn lines, there's like a couple ideas that were that went out there. But just you know the 01:46:50
premise of that is that the? 01:46:53
Part of the Geneva. 01:46:58
Corridor look that we're going to be looking at that we're going to be applying funding for would include that we had to roll it 01:47:00
into a bigger picture because we're planning going forward with federal funds. 01:47:05
And federal funds they you know they're looking at projects that are like $2,000,000 enough which is great for money wise, but 01:47:10
then when you look at like we want to do something right now right there. 01:47:15
Which doesn't meet the criteria in terms of funding. So that's what we're pushing towards on that and. 01:47:19
Of course, further West of it were. 01:47:26
We have that right, this school. 01:47:28
Crossing, which we did already get funding for. We're going to be working with MAG to see if those are federal funds which have 01:47:31
not been made available. We're working back to see if we can get some money from and front load to us so we can kind of start 01:47:36
moving forward without. 01:47:41
So I just wanted to make sure that kind of put that up even though it doesn't get talked about much in public it these type of 01:47:47
things are always on staff's mind and where they are to say what can we do, what can we do, where's an opportunity. And I'm very 01:47:54
happy to say that the, you know, the three agencies you dot, Vineyard and Orem are on are all on the same page to make. 01:48:01
Improvements in that quarter specifically for ourselves. Yeah, good update. Thank you. That's great. Yeah. 01:48:08
Yeah. That's an important improvement that needs to be made. So, yeah. So that's, that's one thing I want to let you know. Thanks. 01:48:15
Yeah, thanks. Thanks. 01:48:18
Thank you, Naseem. 01:48:24
Do we have? This is a random question that I got a while ago. 01:48:26
The Holdaway Road Bike Blvd. 01:48:31
Planned. If I remember that was, yeah, it was thrown out there. Yeah, to be a special designated bike Blvd. But I'm not sure 01:48:34
whatever came of that, OK? 01:48:39
Not sure either. Don't have any updates maybe, yeah. 01:48:46
Sorry. 01:48:51
I'm going to see him get to our public works director, state engineer. I'll give you a much shorter story on this on this one. 01:48:53
The short answer is Morgan will provide you a good update. OK, not so the short answer is. 01:48:59
We met with the developer along there. 01:49:04
Week coming up with some options. 01:49:07
And Morgan, I'll give you an update on the path forward, but that's on our radar as well, yeah, I think. 01:49:10
Maybe it's part of this, but I know there was an agreement that there's no vehicle access onto that road, but I think there 01:49:17
absolutely should be pedestrian and bike access. That could be great. 01:49:21
So, yeah, exactly. I think and that's kind of like the. 01:49:26
The key integral part that we're trying to workout. 01:49:30
Perfect. Right. If there's nothing, oh, Anthony's got one more thing. Yeah. So I have a quick update for you as well. So we 01:49:33
recently got awarded A tag grant. It's a technical assistance. 01:49:39
To government. 01:49:46
A grant from MAG which would allow us to do some more planning for safer streets and corridos in the city, so I'd like to share 01:49:49
this. We applied for the grant. 01:49:55
And we're. 01:50:01
A good amount of money to have this corridor developed. 01:50:03
I mean planned to be, you know, planned these streets to be developed in a way that would accommodate for various modes of travel 01:50:07
and also account for safe streets for pedestrians. 01:50:13
So this is intended to have Mill Rd. 01:50:19
You know, redesigned in a way that. 01:50:24
Would keep our pedestrians safe well, also allowing good enough travel. 01:50:27
And also. 01:50:32
Enough connection. 01:50:35
14 hundred 400 N. 01:50:37
And all these blue. 01:50:40
Notes here are intersections that will be. 01:50:42
Considered in a way that would. 01:50:46
Make it easier. 01:50:48
Use as pedestrians or other alternative. 01:50:50
Amount of transportation. 01:50:55
In the city. 01:50:57
It is intended to have this developed. 01:50:59
And a part of you know to. 01:51:02
Vineyard Connector as well and the West side of Vineyard, I mean of Geneva Rd. would have just be a trail that connects seamlessly 01:51:05
through. 01:51:10
This ring that is being planned for. 01:51:15
To make it safe enough for people to write. 01:51:19
This entire ring. 01:51:21
Without having to, you know, necessarily. 01:51:24
Stop because of crazy hazards. I'll tell you right now, that is a ring I avoid right now. So that is. 01:51:27
What this TAG grant is going to be solving, hopefully through the study. 01:51:35
So it's going to be a Mill Rd. Corridor Master plan that takes this ring into consideration because currently it's even hard for 01:51:42
residents here to cross over to the. 01:51:46
To the yard because. 01:51:52
This 400 N Mill Rd. Intersection is a deadly zone? Absolutely yes. So. 01:51:53
Couple of questions, couple questions on that. When does that begin and. 01:52:01
Can we be integrated into that somehow? Yes. So BAC will be heavily integrated into this. We just got awarded this last week. 01:52:07
So we will be working with. 01:52:15
Dan, Wayne, closely from now to get contracts and everything put together, I mean RFP processes everything just to hire consultant 01:52:20
on. 01:52:25
To start this process and. 01:52:31
Our intention is to make sure that BAC is very integral in this process. 01:52:33
To at least make our voices heard better as we go through this process. 01:52:38
We haven't anticipated. 01:52:45
Giant espids. 01:52:48
Time frame start. 01:52:50
Finish. So we're thinking starting May 2024. 01:52:53
Yes, and. 01:52:59
Hopefully 18 month process. 01:53:01
And this grant would also. So it's in two parts. There's this part of it and there's a second part of the grant that would be used 01:53:04
for a citywide wayfinding master plan because we do not have one in place. 01:53:11
So it's two in one kind of project. 01:53:18
Gordon Very good. 01:53:21
Yeah, good update. Before we adjourn, just a reminder, don't wait until the next meeting. If you got questions like feel free to 01:53:23
fire those off. The only caveat is. 01:53:28
We shouldn't just be discussing and making decisions as a group outside of a public meeting, so feel free to just. 01:53:34
Throw Anthony Fletcher on for any staff questions and he can get it in the right place and if you need to put someone up from the 01:53:40
Commission on you can throw me on there. But if we avoid having everyone on there then we can. 01:53:46
Talk about anything you want to ask, any questions and then you don't have to wait till the next meeting. So. 01:53:53
All right. With that, meeting adjourned. Thanks, everyone. 01:53:58
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We'll jump right in with any public comments. So any of you that are here, if there's anything that you want to bring up or 00:00:00
discuss that's not on the agenda, go ahead and come up to the microphone. 00:00:04
None, all right. 00:00:14
We'll move right into the work session. The first item is a vineyard connectivity analysis. 00:00:17
Actually, before we do that, we've got. 00:00:23
We've got two new members. Maybe you could just introduce yourselves on the record here. Umm. 00:00:26
For anyone that's watching this later and they can get to know you, so start with you, Jim and then Chris. 00:00:30
My name is Jim Price. I do not live in Vineyard. I am. 00:00:36
I don't know what they call that. 00:00:41
At large. 00:00:43
Anyway, I worked for Mountain Land Association of Governments for the past. 00:00:47
25 years I just retired. 00:00:52
And I don't know if you know what Maggie is, but we do transportation planning and project development. 00:00:54
And I was involved. I ran the Active Transportation program. 00:01:01
Great. Thanks, Jim. Good to have you. Thank you. 00:01:06
Hi, I'm Chris Wilsey with Bike Utah. I'm the Co Executive Director. 00:01:09
And Jim's wingman. 00:01:14
Good. Thanks. Thanks for introducing yourselves. But yeah, let's jump ahead into the the work session for the Vineyard 00:01:21
connectivity analysis. 00:01:25
There you go. 00:01:31
How does this work? Again, I just wait until it's red. 00:01:50
And then you click on it. 00:01:54
And not flashing. 00:02:03
Future. 00:02:10
OK, I don't. 00:02:14
Was I don't think you were here when I presented on this last time. 00:02:15
And maybe not you. 00:02:21
But the two of you were here. 00:02:23
So you're going to get the presentation twice. 00:02:27
OK, as I said last time, I didn't perform the analysis one of my staff members did, so I can't get into like the Super. 00:02:36
Specific details, but I can answer a lot of questions. 00:02:47
And it could probably answer more questions than I could last time. 00:02:50
OK, so this connectivity analysis. It explores the completeness of vineyards at network. 00:02:58
And it looks at the relative level of connection, the density of networks, and the ability of users to connect. 00:03:05
To origins and destinations. 00:03:13
So basically how you do the relative level of connect? 00:03:18
Is. You calculate this by dividing the total number of St. segments by. 00:03:24
So that would. 00:03:30
Be links by the number of intersections, so nodes and that's kind of the little dots on the map and you can determine that areas 00:03:31
relative level of connection. 00:03:36
And to further complicate this, we looked at barriers, so streets that were really fast maybe didn't have good crossings. 00:03:43
And we listed those as kind of barriers in that network, so. 00:03:53
Practically speaking. 00:04:00
That becomes an issue for the connectivity for walking and biking. 00:04:03
And the network density is measured as intersections per square mile within the study area. 00:04:11
And you may be asking like, why does all this matter so for? 00:04:19
Bicycling and walking. You want your network to be a lot more permeable. 00:04:23
So the last time you guys asked. 00:04:31
Some questions about why it seemed as if your connectivity was really low, and we'll get into that in a second, but a lot of that 00:04:36
has to do with the scale at which Vineyard is working. 00:04:42
In terms of connectivity? 00:04:50
And you want, so when I say permeable, if you're walking and biking, the scale at which you're working is much smaller, right? So 00:04:52
if you're driving. 00:04:57
Having to drive a mile or half a mile before you reach an intersection is not that big of a deal. But if you're walking and 00:05:04
biking, having to walk a mile. 00:05:08
To turn. 00:05:14
Is a big deal versus being able to only walk maybe 100 feet. 00:05:16
So we are looking at walkability, not just bikeability and so. 00:05:25
We looked at the quality of the network for these users, so measuring block lengths as I was just talking about. 00:05:32
That probably, and it matters a lot more for walking, even more than biking so. 00:05:40
If you think about walking, biking is at the top end of sort of pedestrianism. 00:05:46
Because you can travel a lot further, that sort of same concept of like. 00:05:53
How far can you go before it becomes really burdensome on you? 00:05:57
So you can look at this. 00:06:05
Chart. Don't look too closely, there's some typos, but this has the standard. 00:06:11
And where vineyards at? 00:06:17
So you're at 2 intersections per square mile. 00:06:21
Your connectivity index is 1.4 versus the standard of 1.8, so not that far off. But your block lengths are very long. So somebody 00:06:25
asked last time why are our block lengths so long? So I have a better answer having looked into it and talked it over with a staff 00:06:30
member. 00:06:35
Do you guys want the long answer or the short answer? 00:06:41
Well, the short answer is. 00:06:48
You don't have a lot of. 00:06:53
Permeability on a lot of roads and I think part of that is the lack of development in certain areas, but it's also. 00:06:54
I think tie it into like the whole concept of strouds versus. 00:07:03
Non strokes which I actually think. 00:07:06
And this gets into the longer answer. 00:07:09
So I actually think Vineyard is not. 00:07:12
Doing the strode thing. 00:07:15
Does everybody know what a Stroud is? 00:07:17
OK, so strode, it's sort of like AI don't know, like a colloquial term or something, I don't know. 00:07:19
For when? 00:07:28
On a transportation system. 00:07:29
You're connecting what some people call like streets and roads, so the distinction they're making there is that. 00:07:32
Streets are for like people like Imagine. I don't know, like a street in Europe or maybe. 00:07:38
I don't know, like Disneyland. 00:07:47
So that's going to be like made for people you're walking, you don't have cars flying through? 00:07:50
And a road is for moving cars. So Strode is trying to do both of those things. It's trying to have a lot of people and it's 00:07:56
trying. 00:07:59
And so that's going to increase tech connectivity because you want it to be actually be usable, but the road is trying to move 00:08:03
traffic as quickly as possible. 00:08:07