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| Hey, at 6:00 can I have everybody take their seat please? | 00:00:03 | |
| Umm, I'm going to. | 00:00:07 | |
| We're going to do something a little bit different tonight. We're gonna quickly open the City Council meeting. | 00:00:10 | |
| At 6:00 PM on. | 00:00:15 | |
| Wednesday, December 11th and. | 00:00:17 | |
| Due to the mayor's absence, she had a meeting of the state tonight that she needed to attend and so I need to call for a motion to | 00:00:20 | |
| elect the mayor Pro Tem. Pouring. | 00:00:25 | |
| I nominate Marty. | 00:00:33 | |
| OK, I need a second. | 00:00:35 | |
| Hi, Jake. OK, Roll call, Jake. Yes. | 00:00:38 | |
| Brett, yes. Marty, yes. | 00:00:42 | |
| Sarah yes, OK, motion passed. I turn the time over to. | 00:00:46 | |
| Councilmember Sifuente says the Mayor pro tempore and she will also chair. | 00:00:50 | |
| The RDA meeting. | 00:00:55 | |
| OK. And then I need to call this meeting to a close so that we can start guarding. | 00:00:57 | |
| Reset that OK. | 00:01:02 | |
| Reset. | 00:01:05 | |
| OK. | 00:01:13 | |
| It is December 11th at 6:14 PM. | 00:01:15 | |
| And I would like to open our Vineyard City Council meeting. | 00:01:19 | |
| We are going to go ahead and start with a presentation at the work session. | 00:01:22 | |
| 3.1 Utah City parking presentation and discussion. | 00:01:27 | |
| As a reminder, there's no vote that's going to be taken tonight, this is just a discussion for the council if the public has | 00:01:30 | |
| questions. | 00:01:33 | |
| Umm, you were looking to be called upon, but. | 00:01:37 | |
| I believe are we having. | 00:01:41 | |
| Please, who's presenting or the? | 00:01:44 | |
| Nate yeah. So we, we do have the the property, the property owners here to present. And just to remind this was from the parking | 00:01:46 | |
| discussion where? | 00:01:50 | |
| The council had several questions about the downtown Utah city in general, how parking would be managed, how they would be able to | 00:01:54 | |
| control parking. | 00:01:58 | |
| Potentially overflowing into adjacent properties. | 00:02:03 | |
| And then just kind of the overall scheme, the temporary parking as they build out surface to structure and then the streets now. | 00:02:07 | |
| Have been restricted for parking because there's construction activities and helping us to understand that. So there's a lot of | 00:02:15 | |
| points. | 00:02:19 | |
| That they're going to cover. You're welcome to ask questions along the way. Well, thank you for getting this set up and thank you | 00:02:23 | |
| for coming. | 00:02:26 | |
| We'll turn the time over to you. | 00:02:31 | |
| Thank you. Thank you, Council. I don't know. | 00:02:39 | |
| OK. | 00:02:44 | |
| Thank you. | 00:02:46 | |
| Nate Hutchinson. | 00:02:52 | |
| Flagship Utah city. | 00:02:53 | |
| Hope everybody's doing well. So I think there was a there was a few questions that we were asked to respond to. | 00:02:56 | |
| Umm, so I'll just kind of read those and then we can. | 00:03:03 | |
| I'm hoping to have a little more of an open discussion and talk through these things. | 00:03:07 | |
| Parking management currently along roads and within the development of those that are not transit units. That was the first | 00:03:12 | |
| transit users. That was the first question. | 00:03:16 | |
| Overall parking management of the project, Howell Rd. structures and lots be handled long term. | 00:03:20 | |
| How will parking be contained on site as your project builds out? | 00:03:25 | |
| And then the parking study as that adjusts overtime if you remember in our code. | 00:03:28 | |
| We have us or you have the ability at 500 units of construction, 1500 units of construction, 3000 units. | 00:03:33 | |
| And 5000 units. | 00:03:43 | |
| To require a study to be done by a professional competent parking management. | 00:03:44 | |
| Group Engineer. | 00:03:51 | |
| And then the parking, then the parking requirements in the community will adjust based on the findings of that study and | 00:03:53 | |
| essentially whatever the study shows just become. | 00:03:58 | |
| The new parking standards. | 00:04:04 | |
| So that's that's kind of how that that will will work. We're obviously under construction on our first 450 units. | 00:04:06 | |
| That should start to deliver in June. | 00:04:13 | |
| It's going to be quite some time before those absorb and lease up and then the next units that will start to deliver will be in | 00:04:16 | |
| 2026. | 00:04:19 | |
| So we do have some time, so we haven't. | 00:04:23 | |
| Finalize the parking management plan. We're currently we've hired a property manager. It's Gray Stars, the largest property | 00:04:25 | |
| management firm in the world. | 00:04:29 | |
| That will be coming and managing this. This will be one of the first projects they have in Utah County. | 00:04:34 | |
| I think one of the things and we've communicated this I think before here. | 00:04:38 | |
| The parking issues that have been found other places in the city. | 00:04:42 | |
| Have been in areas where. | 00:04:46 | |
| There's not professional management being done. | 00:04:48 | |
| And although ample parking may have been provided originally. | 00:04:50 | |
| In some people's minds. | 00:04:55 | |
| If you lease. | 00:04:56 | |
| A unit, for example, that has two or three bedrooms to six or eight college students, you're gonna have a really hard time. | 00:04:58 | |
| With your parking if that's you know how those units are managed and so. | 00:05:04 | |
| I think one of the things that will be unique about downtown, although there will be for sale product, there will be plenty of | 00:05:10 | |
| units that will be sold. | 00:05:13 | |
| That's been a question that's been asked. | 00:05:17 | |
| We will be selling units. | 00:05:19 | |
| The hope is is to establish a sense of place. Get the promenade in, get some retail in, get the grocery store open. | 00:05:21 | |
| Get Huntsman going. | 00:05:27 | |
| Before we start selling product, we think, you know, selling into the Sahara desert, it takes too much vision at this point. | 00:05:29 | |
| But once we establish this. | 00:05:37 | |
| And and have it become a sense of place? | 00:05:39 | |
| There it'll be a little bit before sale side of this will tick up. | 00:05:41 | |
| We're big believers in Vineyard. Long term, we plan on owning a lot of this property for for a long, long, long time. | 00:05:48 | |
| Which is another thing that's probably a little bit unique in what's happened in other areas where developers will come in, | 00:05:55 | |
| they'll sell all the products they no longer have. | 00:05:59 | |
| Have skin in the game. | 00:06:04 | |
| And I think there's probably very few people in this room that will care as much about how parking is managed. | 00:06:06 | |
| Downtown that there's ample places for people to park that want to live. | 00:06:12 | |
| Come to the promenade to shop, to come to the grocery store as we will. | 00:06:16 | |
| The last thing we want is to build a grocery store that doesn't have enough ample parking for everybody to come and buy groceries. | 00:06:20 | |
| So we have currently in the in the grocery store that's under construction. | 00:06:26 | |
| We have twice the amount of parking that's required under the code. | 00:06:31 | |
| We have 850 stalls, which is about 200 stalls more than what's currently required in the code on the projects that are under | 00:06:35 | |
| construction. | 00:06:39 | |
| You can see most some of the first things we do when we do this is. | 00:06:42 | |
| Is put the parking lots in. | 00:06:46 | |
| Umm, So that umm is a little bit kind of our philosophy there. | 00:06:49 | |
| I think. | 00:06:54 | |
| The question of parking on either side of us containing parking downtown. I think if you look at the you might pull up a map of | 00:06:56 | |
| Vineyard City. Is that possible? | 00:07:02 | |
| I have I have one here but. | 00:07:09 | |
| Might be easier. Oh sorry you gave me this. | 00:07:13 | |
| Thanks. | 00:07:20 | |
| Good to see you. | 00:07:25 | |
| I think one of the things I wanted to illustrate with pulling up a plan here is the Vineyard Connector. Obviously, there's no | 00:07:29 | |
| parking on Vineyard Connector. | 00:07:33 | |
| So no one downtown is going to park. | 00:07:37 | |
| Can or should park on Vineyard Connector? | 00:07:39 | |
| Currently, there's no parking lot on Main Street. | 00:07:42 | |
| Which is the next adjacent St. to us. So no one, no one that lives downtown will park there. | 00:07:45 | |
| All four projects, Tucker Row, The Locks, The Preserve and Lakeshore all are professionally managed. | 00:07:50 | |
| And in their Hoas. And so none of our people will be parking in there or they will be towed. | 00:07:56 | |
| I believe. | 00:08:02 | |
| You know they're managing their own parking. | 00:08:03 | |
| I think the one Rd. | 00:08:05 | |
| The lake. | 00:08:07 | |
| Front Rd. | 00:08:09 | |
| Which is, I think there's been a lot of discussion going back and forth on that. If you can see there on the left side of the map | 00:08:10 | |
| there, the bottom left corner is that kind of Lakeshore Rd. that goes down. | 00:08:15 | |
| Into the Lakeshore community. | 00:08:20 | |
| Is 1 where people are talking about people parking on both sides of the road. But if you if you look at that I just. | 00:08:24 | |
| I wanted to illustrate this to show that. | 00:08:29 | |
| There's nowhere anywhere in the community to the South. | 00:08:31 | |
| Where any of the people that are living to the north were shopping, et cetera. | 00:08:36 | |
| It's more convenient than actually just going downtown and parking. We're very committed to making sure that our people, we have | 00:08:41 | |
| to have enough parking here to be contained downtown. | 00:08:47 | |
| We'd like the same thing to happen on the other side. | 00:08:53 | |
| That those communities are managed from a parking perspective that they're not also. | 00:08:55 | |
| Coming across Vineyard Connector and using all of the parking that's on the other side, that's been built for retail and for | 00:09:00 | |
| everything else that's on that's on that side. | 00:09:04 | |
| So that's, that's the hope that we can all work together on that and with whether that's with nightly permits that I know the city | 00:09:09 | |
| has done in other places, etc. | 00:09:13 | |
| Um, hourly parking, et cetera, to make sure the cars aren't parked. We, we did have an issue is that those roads were just | 00:09:18 | |
| finished of. | 00:09:21 | |
| People taking old cars and parking and leaving them there and. | 00:09:24 | |
| You know, since now we're. | 00:09:27 | |
| You know, more focused on. | 00:09:29 | |
| Making sure that's not happening is the other thing we don't want to do is create a habit today. | 00:09:31 | |
| And then in a couple of years when we started absorbing to then try to restrict that. I think it's important that we're. | 00:09:36 | |
| We in the communities to the South. | 00:09:41 | |
| Or having that understanding at the same time right now like this is how this is going to work moving forward. | 00:09:44 | |
| So that's our plan and vision for. | 00:09:49 | |
| For the downtown parking and I'm happy to answer other questions. I've got other material or other things we can go through but. | 00:09:52 | |
| That's just kind of the overarching. | 00:09:58 | |
| Parking idea from our perspective there. | 00:10:00 | |
| So questions Council, do you have any questions? | 00:10:04 | |
| Sorry, I'm squeaking microphone. | 00:10:09 | |
| No, it looks good. Did you say you've already started building the grocery store? | 00:10:12 | |
| Yeah, so, so peers are in the grocery store. Yeah, peers are in. | 00:10:16 | |
| Underground Piers. | 00:10:21 | |
| Yeah, so. | 00:10:24 | |
| So. | 00:10:26 | |
| The peers have gone in the areas where the footings and foundations will go. The footings and foundation will start in January. | 00:10:27 | |
| And then we'll build that building as fast as we possibly can, so. | 00:10:34 | |
| We're hoping that it's a. | 00:10:38 | |
| Short, concise build and our contractor knows that. | 00:10:41 | |
| They're under a lot of pressure to get that done. There's a lot of people that want to buy groceries. | 00:10:45 | |
| We're as anxious as anyone to get it open, so I actually spoke with someone at a local grocery store across the freeway and they | 00:10:50 | |
| are excited for you to have this because they feel like they're too busy. Oh wow, so that's great. Let's get that in writing. I | 00:10:55 | |
| know, right? | 00:10:59 | |
| Notice I didn't say anything. Yeah. | 00:11:06 | |
| A question that that came up during our parking discussion was the parking was restricted on Main Street and. | 00:11:09 | |
| The the Transit Rd. And so, you know, and just talking kind of internally. | 00:11:16 | |
| Like our feelings are as you. | 00:11:22 | |
| Continue to build it out and it's going to be probably your best interest to keep those route restricted. | 00:11:25 | |
| As opposed to allowing people back on you're in the middle of destruction. We've had the issues where the more like. | 00:11:30 | |
| Like extra spots that you have open, then we start to see occupancy go back up. So allow allowing kind of the current parking | 00:11:36 | |
| regulations to take effect and to mature. | 00:11:41 | |
| Can you tell us about your thoughts on that and just interim use of that street? Yeah, great insight. There won't ever be parking | 00:11:46 | |
| on Main Street. This will be similar to what you have on the South will be two lanes of. | 00:11:52 | |
| Two lanes of. | 00:11:58 | |
| Traffic in either direction and bike lane on the side. So no, no long term parking along Main St. | 00:12:00 | |
| And then the other thing we're working on right now is we're working with UTA. This stop is a lot busier than they had anticipated | 00:12:08 | |
| being. We started with 300, temporary 300 and change, I believe temporary stalls. | 00:12:14 | |
| They're really excited about how. | 00:12:20 | |
| How much this train station is actually being used? | 00:12:22 | |
| Considering you know, we haven't done anything on next to the platform. | 00:12:24 | |
| So working closely with them, their parking will end up in a shared structure with us. | 00:12:29 | |
| So people will be able to come. | 00:12:35 | |
| Use the park and ride during the day and then evening. Can be used for residential. | 00:12:37 | |
| Residential residents that live in the community and will share the cost of that and it'll be monitored that, you know, obviously | 00:12:43 | |
| you can't just come and park a car and leave it there for four or five days, which is. | 00:12:48 | |
| What they're kind of having there, and I think part of the part of the answer to there is. | 00:12:53 | |
| I think UTA isn't isn't really. | 00:12:58 | |
| Policing their parking as as much as they maybe are in other areas. | 00:13:00 | |
| So they've communicated that they're interested in kind of making sure that. | 00:13:05 | |
| Their parking also, people are bringing, you know, old cars and parking in there and leaving them there forever. So that's | 00:13:09 | |
| something they're looking at as well. So have you started working with an actual? | 00:13:14 | |
| Or I guess it's a two-part question, Are you working with a parking study group or just the management company? Yeah, Yeah, good | 00:13:19 | |
| question. We've narrowed it down to like two or three that we would recommend. Obviously, we're going to jointly, the study will | 00:13:24 | |
| be done by a group that we jointly agree upon. | 00:13:29 | |
| But we want, we want the group to be. | 00:13:35 | |
| A legitimate national parking firm that does this in a lot of different places, so it's not just somebody that doesn't know what. | 00:13:38 | |
| You know what the studies should be. | 00:13:47 | |
| And what the parameters are of that so? | 00:13:50 | |
| Yeah. So we haven't. | 00:13:53 | |
| We still have a little bit of time that will be probably about a year before we need to really start digging into starting that | 00:13:54 | |
| study if either, because the other thing is either of us are allowed to request that. | 00:14:00 | |
| And we may just open and you're going to see 1800 stalls and you're like, OK, well we could do this, but it's really not going to | 00:14:05 | |
| tell us anything because. | 00:14:08 | |
| We really aren't going to know anything about parking here until we've got a lot more units, until we have a lot more mixed-use, | 00:14:11 | |
| until the promenade is going and everything else right now we're going to show. | 00:14:16 | |
| There's going to be ample parking and it's going to be something overtime that we're going to have to, which is why we both wanted | 00:14:20 | |
| this request in the code so that. | 00:14:24 | |
| We don't want to go out here and build what we think is going to be a couple $100 million of too much parking. | 00:14:28 | |
| And you guys want to make sure that we have enough parking. So it was. | 00:14:33 | |
| That was a joint agreement there and we're really. | 00:14:37 | |
| Committed to making sure that there's enough parking here. | 00:14:41 | |
| I don't know if 500 is the right number. We'll come back and talk about that because once again, that's it. Either of our | 00:14:44 | |
| requests. If we come back in a year and you're like, no, you know what, we want this study. We're happy to do this study. | 00:14:49 | |
| If you're like there's 1800 paved stalls here and you only have 400 units open and 75 of them are occupied, maybe we ought to. | 00:14:55 | |
| Change in weight and do that at 1000 versus 500 because right now the parameters are 515 hundred et cetera, but. | 00:15:02 | |
| That's up to. | 00:15:08 | |
| Either of us working together on that. So you said right now you have 3 paint lots. So yeah, there's, there's yeah, there's three | 00:15:10 | |
| paved lots and then well, actually. | 00:15:15 | |
| I think there's four pavements, there's two, there's 1800 and. | 00:15:20 | |
| Just over 18 months for those four, OK. | 00:15:26 | |
| OK, which also taking a step back, the code does require what we feel like right now. | 00:15:28 | |
| More than enough parking. | 00:15:35 | |
| And so when we come in for a building permit and build these buildings, we have to make sure staff doesn't. | 00:15:37 | |
| And the Commission doesn't allow us to start these projects. | 00:15:42 | |
| Unless we have. | 00:15:45 | |
| The required amount of stalls in that plant. So it's not like we're out here saying, oh, we're going to just build whatever we | 00:15:47 | |
| want and then we're going to do the study. | 00:15:51 | |
| There is a required amount of parking. | 00:15:55 | |
| We're well above what is currently in the code and think it's going to be. | 00:15:57 | |
| More than enough. And we actually think as the studies go on, they're going to show that we need less parking than what's | 00:16:01 | |
| currently in the code. | 00:16:04 | |
| Perfect. | 00:16:08 | |
| Council, do you have any other questions? | 00:16:09 | |
| No, I think it's really smart. | 00:16:12 | |
| When Cass explained it to me, I think that's a it's a great move for the downtown to just. | 00:16:14 | |
| Of that study continually. Well for you too, right, yeah. | 00:16:19 | |
| Yeah, for both of us. | 00:16:23 | |
| OK. And then public, I'd be willing to let a couple people just if you want to spend a couple minutes if anyone has any questions? | 00:16:24 | |
| Since we have. | 00:16:31 | |
| Developers Daria. | 00:16:32 | |
| Please make sure to come to the podium and state your name. | 00:16:33 | |
| Daria Evans, Vineyard Villa's resident. | 00:16:42 | |
| OK. I just have a couple questions. | 00:16:46 | |
| About umm. | 00:16:49 | |
| When you were talking about UTA being a shared parking structure. | 00:16:54 | |
| How will the people who use UTA for the airport be taken care of? | 00:17:00 | |
| You know there will be the overnight. | 00:17:07 | |
| OK, OK. | 00:17:09 | |
| OK, we'll do that. And then you say you just you have. | 00:17:10 | |
| 1800 parking spots. | 00:17:14 | |
| Coming on in these 4 parking lots but you have 1886 units coming in. | 00:17:16 | |
| Although that doesn't include the the other. Oh, will you come to the mic? Keep asking the questions, Daria. We'll take notes and | 00:17:21 | |
| then they can answer all them. Those were my 2. So you said 1800 units versus you said 1800. | 00:17:27 | |
| Those four. | 00:17:34 | |
| Structure. Oh my gosh, where'd it go? | 00:17:36 | |
| Blocks. | 00:17:40 | |
| Yeah, Block 568A1413C13B and 18C. That comes to 1886. | 00:17:42 | |
| Thank you. Thank you. Does anyone else have you know? Let's see if anyone else has questions and then we can answer them all at | 00:17:51 | |
| once. | 00:17:54 | |
| Anyone else? | 00:17:59 | |
| OK, go ahead. | 00:18:00 | |
| So airport so there will be stalls for people that want to park over. | 00:18:03 | |
| Overnight there, it'll just be on a. | 00:18:06 | |
| On AI, don't know how UTA will manage that but they do that in other places as well that they don't. | 00:18:08 | |
| Right right now, as soon as the one of the. | 00:18:14 | |
| Facilities for UTA stop has enough stalls. | 00:18:18 | |
| They just have a pretty simple system where you call in. | 00:18:21 | |
| You let him know that you're going to be parking there overnight or for a few days. | 00:18:25 | |
| They give you you give them your license plate and they don't give you a ticket the next time. | 00:18:29 | |
| So as it's shared, they'll probably have, I don't know, 10 or 15 extra stalls that they'll have for 24 hours and not be shared as | 00:18:33 | |
| part of the 8 or 900 stalls that are shared. | 00:18:38 | |
| From a unit perspective, so that's I'm really glad you brought that up because this is only on like the 800 and change units that | 00:18:43 | |
| are currently under construction. | 00:18:47 | |
| So it's not for the other blocks that are not yet in and permitted yet, so. | 00:18:52 | |
| Good question and. | 00:18:57 | |
| Good eye, perfect. | 00:18:58 | |
| OK. Well, thank you so much for coming. We really appreciate it. We are going to be continually working on our parking | 00:19:00 | |
| discussions. | 00:19:04 | |
| And hopefully have some. | 00:19:08 | |
| Some progress on everything. | 00:19:11 | |
| I would just like to leave a comment that. | 00:19:13 | |
| You know, in the parking meeting we had with. | 00:19:16 | |
| Residents, we pause and. | 00:19:20 | |
| So that every development has had a study in. | 00:19:22 | |
| Everyone kind of had a consensus that. | 00:19:24 | |
| Every study was failed. So my concern is that again, we're leaning on let's not build it until we do a study. | 00:19:27 | |
| And then someone in. | 00:19:34 | |
| That doesn't live in this community is going to do a equation on the amount. | 00:19:35 | |
| And one of the things that came out from the citizens is instead of studying something in the future, why not? | 00:19:40 | |
| Study something of actual houses that are here. | 00:19:45 | |
| And their youth and going off of that number instead of a pie in the sky. | 00:19:49 | |
| We think people will live this way instead of. | 00:19:53 | |
| Surveying our residents as to how much parking they wish they would have had. | 00:19:57 | |
| You know, thank you, Jake. I was just watching Orem City Council and Mayor Young was actually just talking about how. | 00:20:01 | |
| You can plan, you can plan, but then as you start to see people's habits and. | 00:20:07 | |
| Changes. | 00:20:12 | |
| He he talked about how he has an apartment complex or a townhome. | 00:20:13 | |
| Complex near him and how it's. | 00:20:17 | |
| Gradually grown and developed and changed. And so that's I think one benefit to our continual study. As things grow and change in | 00:20:18 | |
| Utah City, it'd be great to have those continual cities. | 00:20:23 | |
| Thank you for your comment. I just want to go on the record that I disagree with that, but yeah, thanks. | 00:20:28 | |
| Oh yeah, you're welcome TP. | 00:20:33 | |
| So, I mean, I think that I think the sorry, Pete Evans. | 00:20:35 | |
| I think the logic of what you're saying is exactly what's. | 00:20:38 | |
| Codified in the code. | 00:20:41 | |
| So when we say we're going to do a study with 500 units every 500 units. | 00:20:43 | |
| That's so that we can get actual data. | 00:20:48 | |
| And true up. | 00:20:50 | |
| With what's really happening. | 00:20:51 | |
| And the way the parking is really being used, so. | 00:20:53 | |
| There is there is a baseline in the code right now. | 00:20:56 | |
| We think that that baseline is set too high. | 00:20:59 | |
| The city's parking. Sorry, too much parking, but our city has too much parking. | 00:21:02 | |
| That we think that we think that the downtown area. | 00:21:08 | |
| Parking code is over parked. | 00:21:11 | |
| For the uses. | 00:21:13 | |
| So the mechanism was. | 00:21:14 | |
| The City Council was uncomfortable. | 00:21:16 | |
| Going off of the recommendations of the parking consultants. | 00:21:19 | |
| That we brought in. | 00:21:23 | |
| They said look if you're right. | 00:21:25 | |
| Let's look at this after 500 units. | 00:21:26 | |
| And on 500 unit increments. | 00:21:29 | |
| If you're right and there's a bunch of empty parking spaces, then we'll readjust it. | 00:21:31 | |
| If there's not enough and we're under parked. | 00:21:35 | |
| And we'll adjust it up. | 00:21:38 | |
| So that we have this true up mechanism as we go forward. | 00:21:40 | |
| To make sure that there's the appropriate amount of parking. | 00:21:43 | |
| OK, right, because they're getting real time data, they're not projecting what's coming. | 00:21:46 | |
| It's after every five. Yeah, that's right. And that's why Nate was saying that. | 00:21:52 | |
| It may be, you know, even though we have 500 / 500 units permitted. | 00:21:56 | |
| That's not That shouldn't trigger a parking study. We should wait until. | 00:22:02 | |
| We have 500 units occupied. | 00:22:06 | |
| So that we can see how many. | 00:22:08 | |
| Spaces those people are actually using. | 00:22:11 | |
| So as we move forward. | 00:22:13 | |
| We're allocating and planning for appropriate parking amounts. | 00:22:15 | |
| Or an ex development brought up the same frustration because they feel like they're over parked in areas. | 00:22:20 | |
| And then Megaplex is under parked and so this this gives you like it really is a brilliant plan. | 00:22:25 | |
| Because it gives it gives the city real time data. What? | 00:22:30 | |
| Who's moving in? How many parking stalls they're using like. | 00:22:34 | |
| What's happening? | 00:22:37 | |
| Well, and there there are different intricacies too with mixed-use developments where? | 00:22:38 | |
| You have people that are living and working and playing. | 00:22:43 | |
| And shopping. | 00:22:47 | |
| And there's all of those different things have different parking requirements. Some of them will overlap. | 00:22:48 | |
| And you can share the parking, but it's not 100% overlap. | 00:22:53 | |
| So we. | 00:22:57 | |
| Like Nate said, no one is more interested in making sure that the parking here works than we are. | 00:22:58 | |
| Because it's critical to the success of the community, all the aspects of the community. | 00:23:03 | |
| And so that's why I think that. | 00:23:09 | |
| The true this. | 00:23:12 | |
| Constant evaluation mechanism. | 00:23:13 | |
| Was a really good way to see what's happening in real time and when we open. | 00:23:15 | |
| Retail down there, that may change. | 00:23:19 | |
| How the parking is used and we may have to reevaluate that a little bit. | 00:23:21 | |
| If the office market comes back, which it will, we just don't know when. | 00:23:24 | |
| But when the office market comes back and we can. | 00:23:28 | |
| Cross Park, you know that with residential, that's going to change. | 00:23:31 | |
| The amount of parking that we need and we'll be able to chew that up so I. | 00:23:35 | |
| I think the mechanism that's in place is the right mechanism to be able to balance this overtime. | 00:23:38 | |
| Great. Thank you so much. | 00:23:43 | |
| OK, that moves us into our public comment period. | 00:23:45 | |
| If you wish to speak, please keep it too. We're going to go with three minutes. | 00:23:51 | |
| Please come to this podium. State your name and state where you live. How many people are planning on speaking? | 00:23:57 | |
| OK, go ahead. | 00:24:03 | |
| Are you keeping the timer Pam? | 00:24:08 | |
| Yes, please. | 00:24:11 | |
| Sorry, switch it up on. | 00:24:12 | |
| Karen Cornelius Bose. | 00:24:17 | |
| I'm just here tonight to give a shout out to. | 00:24:19 | |
| Our sheriff and Nasim. | 00:24:24 | |
| We had a problem last last week in front of our villas clubhouse when we were preparing to. | 00:24:27 | |
| Have our Christmas our annual Christmas party. | 00:24:33 | |
| And my husband called Sheriff Rockwell and. | 00:24:36 | |
| Shared with him that we would love to have these utility vehicles moved. | 00:24:39 | |
| And it was done and Nassim showed up about 4:30 and said they're gone. | 00:24:43 | |
| We shared some cookies with him. | 00:24:48 | |
| And then we shared the good news with the residents. | 00:24:50 | |
| And you all got a huge applause. So thank you very much for your tenderness to that. | 00:24:54 | |
| Thank you so much. | 00:25:00 | |
| Thank you, Ken. | 00:25:10 | |
| Daria Evansville's resident I2 Just want to. | 00:25:13 | |
| Give Naseem and Lieutenant Rockwell the kudos for getting that done. | 00:25:17 | |
| And also Brian Vaudrey. | 00:25:21 | |
| And Zach. I can't remember Zach's last name. | 00:25:24 | |
| Baby, they came to our village clubhouse and gave the senior residents. | 00:25:27 | |
| Of a couple different communities. | 00:25:32 | |
| The opportunity to learn about the recreational opportunities for us as senior residents and we participate in surveys. | 00:25:35 | |
| And I hope that we've received good feedback and I just want to say thank you to them. | 00:25:44 | |
| For reaching out and that we could accommodate them, it was a great opportunity. | 00:25:49 | |
| For us as well as residents to share our community clubhouse with other people. | 00:25:55 | |
| And I think I. | 00:26:00 | |
| Wanted someone wanted to move in so. | 00:26:02 | |
| But thank you, it was good. | 00:26:07 | |
| Awesome. Thank you so much. Does anyone else want to come to the microphone? | 00:26:09 | |
| OK. And that will move us to, we'll go ahead and do our reports at the end. | 00:26:14 | |
| And that'll move us to consent. | 00:26:21 | |
| If anyone has a consent item that we want to discuss, please let us know and we can pull it off the consent items. Otherwise I | 00:26:24 | |
| just need a motion to approve. | 00:26:28 | |
| I make a motion to approve. | 00:26:40 | |
| Consent items. | 00:26:44 | |
| Let's see, I gotta read them out, right? | 00:26:47 | |
| Oh, I moved to approve and adopted consent item as presented. | 00:26:52 | |
| OK, so. | 00:26:56 | |
| It needs to be done by roll call. | 00:26:58 | |
| Oh sorry, Jake has the 1st. | 00:27:00 | |
| Can I get a second? | 00:27:03 | |
| Second, all right. And this is done by roll call Sarah. So take first, Sarah second. | 00:27:05 | |
| All right, Sarah. | 00:27:11 | |
| I mean, yay. | 00:27:13 | |
| And Brett? | 00:27:15 | |
| And **** hi. | 00:27:17 | |
| All right, that was passed. | 00:27:19 | |
| OK. Now we move forward, we have, we'll move to our business items. | 00:27:23 | |
| Discussing discussion and action 9.1. | 00:27:28 | |
| We're going to go ahead and turn the time over to. | 00:27:32 | |
| Let's see, do I turn it on to onward or do I turn it to one of the staff? | 00:27:36 | |
| Natalie. | 00:27:41 | |
| And onward. | 00:27:42 | |
| August. | 00:27:55 | |
| And then? | 00:27:59 | |
| Yeah. | 00:28:10 | |
| Perfect. | 00:28:51 | |
| Awesome. OK. | 00:29:00 | |
| So, um. | 00:29:02 | |
| I last time I talked about the RFP and that we were in the process of doing the RFP. | 00:29:04 | |
| I'm super excited to say that we found a company that is. | 00:29:09 | |
| Umm, how do I? | 00:29:14 | |
| There we go. | 00:29:18 | |
| So what a lot of the criteria that we actually had? | 00:29:21 | |
| Was so specifically a lot of the companies that. | 00:29:24 | |
| So the average contract amount from proposals received was 107,000. | 00:29:28 | |
| And there were a lot of different. | 00:29:32 | |
| Criteria that we so we specifically gave you 7 main items and then of those. | 00:29:35 | |
| It was broken out into 32 different items. | 00:29:41 | |
| And. | 00:29:44 | |
| We had a lot of good companies that. | 00:29:45 | |
| Proposed and the The main reason that we chose Onward was because not only were they the most affordable overall, but they | 00:29:47 | |
| included every single thing that we needed. | 00:29:52 | |
| And not only did they include everything that we needed, but the price. | 00:29:58 | |
| Is not to exceed 90,000 which to kind of give that into a little bit perspective, it is a better price than what we are currently | 00:30:03 | |
| paying and it is also. | 00:30:07 | |
| For more than what we currently have and that. | 00:30:13 | |
| Our evaluation committee unanimously agreed we all were of accordance that this is not only going to be the best for the city, it | 00:30:20 | |
| met all of our. | 00:30:24 | |
| City standards of I had interviewed all of. | 00:30:28 | |
| The head of staff and it met all of their desires, but then also umm. | 00:30:32 | |
| Met state standards, so I'm going to let them introduce themselves in a little bit of the plan that we have going forward. | 00:30:38 | |
| So this is Chad and Jim. | 00:30:46 | |
| Alright, thank you. | 00:30:50 | |
| Thank you. I appreciate that. | 00:30:51 | |
| Acknowledgement there. | 00:30:55 | |
| What's that? Oh, sorry, my name is Chad Davis. | 00:30:56 | |
| Part of the leadership team with the Onward technology. We're a company based out of Draper. | 00:31:00 | |
| And. | 00:31:05 | |
| The majority of a lot of our clients are in the. | 00:31:06 | |
| Public education sector and. | 00:31:11 | |
| Security is something that we do. | 00:31:14 | |
| That is core to. | 00:31:16 | |
| The services that we provide. | 00:31:17 | |
| So I think just real quick, I put, I put together a slide deck. I didn't know how. | 00:31:21 | |
| Who didn't know how deep you all wanted to go down this rabbit hole? So I think I'll probably just summarize. | 00:31:26 | |
| In that. | 00:31:31 | |
| Coming into. | 00:31:33 | |
| Be your IT services provider. | 00:31:34 | |
| We've got a set. | 00:31:37 | |
| List of protocols, policies and procedures that we're going to. | 00:31:38 | |
| Put in place specifically to combat. | 00:31:43 | |
| Security breaches and justice up time for people working on the network. | 00:31:47 | |
| Overall, whether they're. | 00:31:51 | |
| Connected wirelessly or? | 00:31:52 | |
| You know, hardwired and so that the people can do their jobs and they can do it without worry of. | 00:31:54 | |
| You know, threat so. | 00:32:02 | |
| 2024 This slide here is just a. | 00:32:04 | |
| Just to kind of put into perspective that we've seen a major uptick in. | 00:32:08 | |
| Just cybercrime across the board. | 00:32:14 | |
| And the average payout if you're? | 00:32:17 | |
| Especially like a municipal municipality and you're affected. The average payout right now is. | 00:32:20 | |
| Increased to about two and a half million, but we see that on the low end it's going to be. | 00:32:26 | |
| Right around a million if there's. | 00:32:30 | |
| If you have to go that route, so we put. | 00:32:32 | |
| Policies and procedures, like I said in place that. | 00:32:35 | |
| Backups upon backups upon backups that keep. | 00:32:39 | |
| Keep your. | 00:32:43 | |
| City data safe and. | 00:32:44 | |
| You know, knock on wood, free from harm, so. | 00:32:49 | |
| That's how do I just. | 00:32:52 | |
| You can press enter or the yeah, and I don't know how much, so we left. | 00:32:55 | |
| There's like I brought in like 616 slides but the. | 00:33:00 | |
| But the bottom line is that we've got, we've got a bunch of controls that we're going to put in place. The state has provided. | 00:33:03 | |
| The state has provided. | 00:33:11 | |
| Some IT security pieces that we're also going to put in place from. | 00:33:15 | |
| From a nationwide provider. | 00:33:20 | |
| That's not that that's being given to the city as part of a state contract thing. I'm not sure I understand that. I just know it's | 00:33:22 | |
| not. | 00:33:25 | |
| Being paid for like through us or anything like that. We're just implementing it. | 00:33:29 | |
| And just run through this. | 00:33:33 | |
| Pretty quick. One of the things we're going to introduce right off the bat is strong passwords specifically. | 00:33:37 | |
| With the password manager and I don't know honestly how many of this. | 00:33:43 | |
| These we want to get through. | 00:33:47 | |
| Because you know, you know. | 00:33:49 | |
| Everybody's probably got families to go home too, so. | 00:33:51 | |
| I I think you can. | 00:33:55 | |
| Use your discretion, but we like information here, so oh perfect, perfect. | 00:33:57 | |
| So this isn't all inclusive. I took maybe like our top ten and added a few like. | 00:34:01 | |
| Bonus options, but umm. | 00:34:07 | |
| Every company does this a little bit differently. We prefer a password manager part of the. | 00:34:09 | |
| Proposal that that we've given your team is that. | 00:34:14 | |
| Is that we implement password manager, that's part of that cost. | 00:34:18 | |
| Not to exceed 90K. | 00:34:21 | |
| Microsoft's best practice on passwords now is that they're. | 00:34:25 | |
| Super strong that they don't rotate a whole lot so that you know what they are. | 00:34:29 | |
| The use of a password manager is nice because you just have to remember 1 password and then it takes care of. | 00:34:32 | |
| You logging into your multiple websites. | 00:34:37 | |
| Multi factor authentication. This is probably something that is. | 00:34:41 | |
| Hopefully not new to you guys, but we're going to enforce this across. | 00:34:45 | |
| Any city data usage when you're? | 00:34:49 | |
| On the network A2 factor key will. | 00:34:52 | |
| It'll require your phone to log into. | 00:34:56 | |
| Log into the network. | 00:35:01 | |
| Or access data. | 00:35:02 | |
| Actively managed firewalls. | 00:35:05 | |
| We're in the process. We're right now in the process of doing discovery. So we know that there's one location. | 00:35:08 | |
| That we're going to be replacing hardware at. | 00:35:13 | |
| Long term is and I don't know how fast it's going to happen, but long term the other the other. | 00:35:16 | |
| Two locations that have firewalls at them. | 00:35:20 | |
| Will eventually get you unified onto the platform. | 00:35:23 | |
| That, uh. | 00:35:26 | |
| That we service and that we recommend primarily. | 00:35:28 | |
| Security awareness training is something that is another thing that the state is providing which. | 00:35:32 | |
| We're familiar with, we're in know before partner. | 00:35:38 | |
| And so we'll be implementing that, but basically what that is, is it's. | 00:35:41 | |
| Training for personnel that are on the network to help them identify when they're being. | 00:35:45 | |
| Fished if you're not sure what. | 00:35:50 | |
| Fishing is it's just when bad actors are trying to get you to do. | 00:35:53 | |
| Things through e-mail that aren't good? | 00:35:57 | |
| Data integrity so. | 00:35:59 | |
| Security awareness training will be implemented. | 00:36:01 | |
| Endpoint protection. | 00:36:04 | |
| One of the things that the state's providing is Sentinel one. | 00:36:07 | |
| It's a very robust. | 00:36:10 | |
| Suite of tools that. | 00:36:12 | |
| Will be deployed against the network to help. | 00:36:15 | |
| You know that actor's not get access to him. | 00:36:18 | |
| One of the one of the things that we do when we're onboarding. | 00:36:21 | |
| When we're onboarding new clients as we have a set of security protocols that we put in place. | 00:36:24 | |
| And those are things like network segmentation. | 00:36:30 | |
| And making it so that there's no one. | 00:36:34 | |
| One way that you can access the network to get to all of the data. | 00:36:38 | |
| Sentinel 1 is just an overlay to. | 00:36:42 | |
| Some of the base core. | 00:36:44 | |
| Security measures that we're putting in place. | 00:36:47 | |
| Automated patching so you don't have to worry about is my Windows security up to date or if things like. | 00:36:51 | |
| You know Adobe Acrobat, you know your servers. | 00:36:58 | |
| Having that automated and not. | 00:37:03 | |
| Not at the behest of like end users to try to take care of. | 00:37:07 | |
| Is one of the best practices. | 00:37:10 | |
| Advanced e-mail protection Sentinel Sentinel one's got a very robust. Like I said, part of that package is an additional layer of | 00:37:14 | |
| e-mail protection. So they're looking for. | 00:37:19 | |
| They're looking for stuff like fish prevention. | 00:37:25 | |
| Attachment inspection and they'll sandbox things that they don't recognize and they're they're people. | 00:37:29 | |
| Look at that stuff before it's actually sent on to you. | 00:37:35 | |
| So they do a good job physical security, this one. | 00:37:38 | |
| Gets overlooked a lot, but we'll. | 00:37:42 | |
| We'll make recommendations for what we think. | 00:37:44 | |
| The city needs to do as far as. | 00:37:47 | |
| Locking down the data that they control from a physical standpoint. | 00:37:50 | |
| We will make recommendations, I'm sure that I'm sure the city's, you know, covered on cyber insurance. | 00:37:56 | |
| That's pretty, pretty standard these days, but we'll. | 00:38:02 | |
| Look at that and make recommendations. | 00:38:05 | |
| Content filtering. | 00:38:07 | |
| Part of our recommendation is that. | 00:38:09 | |
| Is that the? | 00:38:11 | |
| Leadership for the city controls what can be seen or can't be seen. | 00:38:14 | |
| Specifically on the network. | 00:38:18 | |
| So I think you can probably think of. | 00:38:20 | |
| There's plenty of stuff that city employees shouldn't be. | 00:38:23 | |
| You know, perusing while they're on. | 00:38:26 | |
| The city network. | 00:38:29 | |
| Will help you control what can or can't be seen. | 00:38:30 | |
| And that's a. | 00:38:33 | |
| Part of what we're bringing to the table. | 00:38:34 | |
| There's AI added just a couple of bonus options here about. | 00:38:36 | |
| How we're going to configure VPN S or? | 00:38:41 | |
| When you're off site and need to connect back into. | 00:38:43 | |
| The the city network. | 00:38:47 | |
| How that happens in a secure way? | 00:38:49 | |
| And then at the end of the day, we've got a very. | 00:38:52 | |
| Very robust backup strategy that we will put into place so that the. | 00:38:56 | |
| Data that's being. | 00:39:02 | |
| Housed on city servers. | 00:39:05 | |
| Is backed up with enough revisions to. | 00:39:07 | |
| If you know if the worst thing was to happen and there was a major breach or major failure that we could restore that data versus | 00:39:11 | |
| having to pay. | 00:39:15 | |
| Pay a bad actor, so backups are our great. | 00:39:20 | |
| Our our our greatest backup to that happening. | 00:39:24 | |
| And then on a bad day. | 00:39:29 | |
| I just this is just a little anecdote that. | 00:39:31 | |
| You know pilots don't expect a multi engine flame out. | 00:39:34 | |
| But they're always prepared for if it'll happen. We're going to help your people from a policy standpoint. | 00:39:37 | |
| Understand that if there is a breach or if there is something bad to happens. | 00:39:43 | |
| What they need to do in that event? Who they need to call? | 00:39:48 | |
| And who's responsible for? | 00:39:51 | |
| Taking those activities and. | 00:39:54 | |
| Part of our standard. | 00:39:56 | |
| Part of our standard service offering and. | 00:39:58 | |
| I'll leave it at that. Any questions? | 00:40:01 | |
| Council, do we have any questions? | 00:40:03 | |
| I saw different. | 00:40:08 | |
| I like the requirement for a password manager. | 00:40:10 | |
| Is there a preference? I know you had more than one listed up there. Yeah, we prefer bit Warden. | 00:40:12 | |
| Just from ease of use and management. | 00:40:18 | |
| OK. Jake, do you have any questions? | 00:40:23 | |
| All right. Thank you so much, Chad. Yeah, I appreciate you guys having us. Thank you. Thank you. | 00:40:27 | |
| OK. | 00:40:35 | |
| I guess if we don't have any questions, we just need to. | 00:40:38 | |
| Have a vote? | 00:40:42 | |
| To adopt the resolution. | 00:40:44 | |
| That's perfect. | 00:40:46 | |
| Bless you. | 00:40:48 | |
| I move to adopt resolution 2024-30AS presented. | 00:40:51 | |
| All right. We have a 1st vice, Sarah, do I have a second? | 00:40:56 | |
| 2nd a second by Brett. | 00:41:00 | |
| And this is a resolution, so it's a roll call. | 00:41:03 | |
| Jake No. | 00:41:07 | |
| OK, Brett. | 00:41:10 | |
| I mean that I what do I say? | 00:41:12 | |
| Perfect. It passes. Thank you so much. OK, now, Councilwoman. | 00:41:18 | |
| If I may just one second, this is a point of clarification on the parking discussion that we recently have. | 00:41:23 | |
| They did mention that there was not parking on Main Street. | 00:41:31 | |
| We chatted for a quick minute and he wanted us to clarify. | 00:41:34 | |
| South of the square, about the Civic square. If you remember you have a civic square, the South leg of Main Street won't have | 00:41:39 | |
| parking. | 00:41:42 | |
| But that kind of offsets and then it goes N that they'll they'll be street parking built into the street. OK, Yeah. Thank you for | 00:41:46 | |
| the clarification. That's good. I also wanted to make a clarification because they have the lowest parking requirements. | 00:41:53 | |
| Than anywhere else in the city. | 00:42:00 | |
| Is there any? | 00:42:06 | |
| Yeah, I'd probably have to look that up to make sure. Yeah, we can, we can provide you that information. I mean, we have to go to | 00:42:09 | |
| each of the districts and look at them. | 00:42:13 | |
| Yeah, he was saying that it was high and I was like it. | 00:42:18 | |
| Even at what it is, it's the lowest and it's not close. | 00:42:21 | |
| So I just want to make sure that's part of the record where he's asking for even less than the problems that we're facing. | 00:42:25 | |
| OK. Thank you, Morgan. | 00:42:31 | |
| All right, so we are going to move into another public hearing 9.2. Can I have a motion to do so? | 00:42:33 | |
| We need to move into a public hearing. I make a motion to open up the hearing. | 00:42:45 | |
| Perfect at first by Jake. Can I get a second? | 00:42:49 | |
| Second, Sarah has a second all in favor. | 00:42:52 | |
| Aye, aye. | 00:42:55 | |
| Aye, all right. We're in a public hearing. | 00:42:58 | |
| We're going to go ahead and turn the time over to Eric. | 00:43:01 | |
| Thank you. | 00:43:05 | |
| Before us, we have. | 00:43:07 | |
| The adoption of an ordinance for a salary increase. This is for our finance director. | 00:43:09 | |
| As part of the initial offer. | 00:43:14 | |
| We had included an option for her to complete a certification. | 00:43:16 | |
| That typically takes a couple of years, and she has. | 00:43:22 | |
| Muscle through that certification. | 00:43:25 | |
| And is will plans to have that completed here in the next week or two. | 00:43:27 | |
| After she takes her final Test on that. | 00:43:32 | |
| And so we just wanted to approve that. | 00:43:35 | |
| Because in the last year. | 00:43:37 | |
| There was a requirement that director level staff. | 00:43:39 | |
| Compensation adjustments be heard in a public setting like this is marvelously. | 00:43:44 | |
| Uncomfortable as it is for her. | 00:43:49 | |
| Or anyone. | 00:43:52 | |
| And so we're presenting that before you. It adds a. | 00:43:54 | |
| An amount that's on your packet. | 00:43:57 | |
| To her salary. | 00:44:01 | |
| Forward and that would become. | 00:44:03 | |
| Effective upon that successful completion of her final exam. | 00:44:05 | |
| Awesome. And the public, do we have any questions or comments? | 00:44:10 | |
| All right. Can I get a motion to move out of the public hearing? | 00:44:17 | |
| I make a motion to move our public hearing. All right, first by Jake. Can I get a second? | 00:44:21 | |
| 2nd umm. | 00:44:26 | |
| Second by Sarah, all in favor. | 00:44:27 | |
| Aye, aye, aye. | 00:44:30 | |
| All right, Council, do you have any questions or discussions or do I have a motion? | 00:44:32 | |
| Well, congratulations. | 00:44:43 | |
| Well done. | 00:44:45 | |
| That's great. | 00:44:48 | |
| All right, if we have no questions or discussion, can I get a motion? I, I can make a comment. I, I vote a lot of things. No, I'm, | 00:44:50 | |
| I'm kind of a Grinch most times, but on this one I wouldn't be because I'm very grateful for everything that you're doing and | 00:44:55 | |
| you've done a wonderful job and it's well deserved. | 00:45:00 | |
| Thank you for everything that you're doing. | 00:45:06 | |
| I hope you know that's coming from me. | 00:45:08 | |
| It's great. | 00:45:13 | |
| My wife hates that I'm a sailor. She. | 00:45:17 | |
| I move to adopt resolution 2024-36AS presented. | 00:45:21 | |
| Wait, is it 17? Sorry. | 00:45:26 | |
| I think you're the wrong one. | 00:45:29 | |
| I was being so brave. You were going. I'm OK. I moved to adopt ordinance. | 00:45:34 | |
| 2024 Dash 17. | 00:45:39 | |
| Approving the recommended salary increase for the Finance Director as presented. | 00:45:42 | |
| And after successful completion of the Government Finance Officers Association certification program. | 00:45:47 | |
| Awesome, we got a first by Sarah. Can I get a second? | 00:45:54 | |
| 2nd. | 00:45:59 | |
| So I can't buy Brett. | 00:46:00 | |
| All right. And this will be done by Wilco. | 00:46:03 | |
| All right, Sarah. | 00:46:06 | |
| Hi. Hi, Brett, Hi. | 00:46:08 | |
| I'm Jake. Hi. | 00:46:11 | |
| All right, it passed. | 00:46:13 | |
| All right, that moves us to our. | 00:46:16 | |
| Our next item it's 9.3. | 00:46:20 | |
| The interlocal agreement. | 00:46:23 | |
| Regarding activities related to the formation of the reorganized new school district serving residents of the city's of Linden, | 00:46:24 | |
| Orem, Pleasant Grove and Vineyard, commonly known. | 00:46:29 | |
| As uh. | 00:46:35 | |
| Love PG Linden Orem Vineyard PG. So love PG. There's a lot of love going that one. | 00:46:36 | |
| And I'll turn the time to Jamie. | 00:46:42 | |
| Thank you, we love TT. | 00:46:45 | |
| I I haven't heard that. | 00:46:48 | |
| I'm not sure how to respond. | 00:46:50 | |
| I'll leave it at that. | 00:46:54 | |
| The Thank you for the time to go through this there. As you all can imagine, since the election there has been a lot of activity | 00:46:56 | |
| around the. | 00:47:01 | |
| School district separation and formation and so. | 00:47:07 | |
| I'm gonna err on the side of giving a little bit more background than probably what's required here, just to Orient everybody to | 00:47:10 | |
| the issues. | 00:47:13 | |
| And to why we have to do this and then what we have worked with the other cities. | 00:47:17 | |
| To develop. | 00:47:23 | |
| On this ILA and then I can give you a promise that this will not be the last time you see. | 00:47:25 | |
| This document or school district formation issues. | 00:47:31 | |
| Come up on the agenda. So by way of background, just to set the table. | 00:47:34 | |
| There were two groups of cities within the Alpine School District boundaries that had. | 00:47:40 | |
| Petitions. | 00:47:45 | |
| That went to a vote. | 00:47:47 | |
| And where the voters? | 00:47:48 | |
| Voted to separate those areas from the Alpine School District. | 00:47:51 | |
| One of those was on the western part of their. | 00:47:56 | |
| Boundaries. This is the Saratoga Springs Eagle Mountain area. | 00:48:01 | |
| And then the other separation was in the eastern part of the areas that they serve. | 00:48:05 | |
| And that was the Highland Alpine. | 00:48:10 | |
| Area there were. | 00:48:15 | |
| More than just those cities in those groups that were separated, but what was left remaining were the four. | 00:48:17 | |
| Cities that are contiguous to Vineyard. | 00:48:22 | |
| And that's your love, PGA. | 00:48:25 | |
| City. So it was Pleasant Grove. | 00:48:28 | |
| Linden, Orem and Vineyard. | 00:48:30 | |
| The way the statute treats this, and I'll confess. | 00:48:33 | |
| This statue is interesting because I think it contemplated a split of a school board but not a three-way separation. | 00:48:37 | |
| And so we have. | 00:48:44 | |
| A little bit of a unique. | 00:48:46 | |
| Situation there to deal with and there are some things in the statute that. | 00:48:47 | |
| Leave some room for interpretation. | 00:48:51 | |
| But what the statute does very clearly state is that. | 00:48:54 | |
| Those the geographic boundaries of those four cities and there are some other remaining areas within. | 00:48:59 | |
| The school district, notably up Provo Canyon. | 00:49:06 | |
| And then up into the Sundance area. | 00:49:10 | |
| That will all become. | 00:49:13 | |
| Of a. | 00:49:14 | |
| Newly reorganized school district. I'm just going to call that our school district, right? That's the one Vineyard will be in. | 00:49:17 | |
| And as a newly reorganized school district. | 00:49:24 | |
| The we have to begin the process of setting the boundaries for that district. | 00:49:28 | |
| And registering the district with the Lieutenant governor's office so that it can be recognized. | 00:49:33 | |
| And then there are some steps. | 00:49:39 | |
| The early part of next year where the Lieutenant governor's office and the county. | 00:49:41 | |
| Will begin the process of. | 00:49:46 | |
| Dividing that school district boundaries into. | 00:49:48 | |
| Districts. | 00:49:52 | |
| And I hate the word district being used twice. But what I mean by this other district is you create council seats. | 00:49:54 | |
| For that school board and those council seats were organized by district, I'll say lowercase D districts. | 00:50:01 | |
| And the lower case D districts will need to have boundaries that will eventually be set by the county. | 00:50:08 | |
| So the cities have some. | 00:50:14 | |
| Responsibility early on, just to make sure. | 00:50:16 | |
| That we're following the statutory time frames. | 00:50:20 | |
| For doing that paperwork and registering the newly organized district with the state. | 00:50:23 | |
| So there are two deadlines coming up. | 00:50:29 | |
| Within 30 days of the date the election certified. | 00:50:32 | |
| The newly reorganized district has to register with the Lieutenant governor's office. That's December 19th. | 00:50:36 | |
| And that's the reason for some urgency behind this interlocal agreement. | 00:50:42 | |
| We've been holding meetings among. | 00:50:47 | |
| The attor. | 00:50:50 | |
| The city managers and the mayors of Linden, Orem, Vineyard and Pleasant Grove over. | 00:50:51 | |
| Yeah. | 00:51:01 | |
| Go ahead and. | 00:51:04 | |
| We've been working as a group to figure out how to go about doing this. What we have received back from the Lieutenant governor's | 00:51:06 | |
| office is that they require an interlocal agreement. | 00:51:11 | |
| We don't want the interlocal agreement at this point to be really elaborate, have a lot of commitments, make a government entity. | 00:51:17 | |
| Do all of the things that an ILA can do. | 00:51:24 | |
| We want it to be as spare as it can be to accomplish the purpose we need to achieve. | 00:51:27 | |
| And that's to register the new district. | 00:51:32 | |
| With the Lieutenant governor's office. | 00:51:35 | |
| We have to have the ILA in place and then we also have to create a plat. | 00:51:37 | |
| This will be a little bit of a napkin drawing plat at the time being, but it's. | 00:51:41 | |
| We have a surveyor engaged that will be updated as. | 00:51:47 | |
| We get there, but for now we have to file a plat that has the rough. | 00:51:50 | |
| Dimensions of not just our district, but the other two. | 00:51:54 | |
| And those two documents both have to go have to be finalized by December 19. | 00:51:58 | |
| So that's a long intro to what you have before you in the packet is. | 00:52:03 | |
| An interlocal agreement between the four cities. | 00:52:07 | |
| To create the PT. | 00:52:11 | |
| Got you to say. | 00:52:13 | |
| It might be the only time. | 00:52:15 | |
| Well, after we signed up. | 00:52:17 | |
| Anyway the the interlocal agreement? | 00:52:19 | |
| Is the formal document that we will need to register. | 00:52:22 | |
| The new district with the Lieutenant governor's office. | 00:52:26 | |
| You will. | 00:52:29 | |
| I expect in about. | 00:52:31 | |
| A month's time or certainly by the end of January, we're aiming to. | 00:52:33 | |
| Amend this ILA. | 00:52:38 | |
| To include some other activities. | 00:52:41 | |
| The cities may need to coordinate. | 00:52:43 | |
| Well, let me back up a little bit. | 00:52:46 | |
| There will there will come a time when Alpine School District creates an inventory of its assets and liabilities, files that | 00:52:47 | |
| inventory with. | 00:52:51 | |
| The state legislature. | 00:52:56 | |
| Auditor General. | 00:52:58 | |
| And then when the new school boards are formed. | 00:53:00 | |
| And the school board members are elected. | 00:53:04 | |
| They will be handed those lists and there will be a time where the three school districts will haggle over. | 00:53:07 | |
| Who gets what? | 00:53:14 | |
| We're trying not to view it as a divorce, but as. | 00:53:15 | |
| Your children have grown up, they're moving out of the house and you're figuring out, you know, what they get to take with them. | 00:53:19 | |
| And so. | 00:53:25 | |
| In that process. | 00:53:27 | |
| We need to make sure that our district is set up to succeed. | 00:53:29 | |
| And so you may see another version of the Isla come forward where we're preparing. | 00:53:33 | |
| To make sure that the four cities are on the same page and working together. | 00:53:38 | |
| So that we can function well together. | 00:53:43 | |
| As a new school district, but also. | 00:53:46 | |
| So that if we have to. | 00:53:49 | |
| Compete with the other school districts over assets and liabilities were in the best possible position to do that. | 00:53:51 | |
| The goal at the end of the day, clearly. | 00:53:57 | |
| Is to care for our students. | 00:53:59 | |
| Right and make sure that they are putting the right position. | 00:54:01 | |
| That the school district can serve them. | 00:54:05 | |
| That they don't have the educational resources and everything that they need. | 00:54:07 | |
| When they began studying. | 00:54:12 | |
| We're a few years out from when they'll actually go to school at the new school district, but we're going to make sure they're in | 00:54:14 | |
| a good situation for that. | 00:54:17 | |
| I don't know that I need to go. | 00:54:22 | |
| Kind of line by line in the ILA but. | 00:54:23 | |
| What it does is authorizes the four cities to work together to make the filings with the Lieutenant governor's office. | 00:54:25 | |
| It also authorizes them to do anything they may need to do related to that. | 00:54:31 | |
| There always can be things that come up unexpectedly. We want to make sure that's cared for. | 00:54:36 | |
| And then sometime in January, we expect a new version will come forward that we'll talk about. | 00:54:41 | |
| How we're going to collaborate and work together. | 00:54:46 | |
| Provide resources. Share resources. | 00:54:49 | |
| To set the new school district up to succeed. | 00:54:52 | |
| Awesome. Thank you. Jamie, does anyone have any questions? I I could report a little bit more on some of the meetings I've had? | 00:54:55 | |
| Can I make one more clarification? I apologize to. | 00:55:04 | |
| Look at you up on that. | 00:55:07 | |
| One of one aspect of the ILA is. | 00:55:09 | |
| Who represents the city? | 00:55:11 | |
| And that, I think, is important to note. | 00:55:13 | |
| The city will have 3 representatives with each of the four cities will have 3 representatives. | 00:55:17 | |
| The mayor, the city manager and then one member of the City Council. | 00:55:22 | |
| Marty has been Councilwoman, Sifuentes has been the representative from Vineyard on school board and school related issues. | 00:55:26 | |
| And so the expectation is that she would continue in that role and she would be the Council representative. | 00:55:35 | |
| OK. And then also just something of interest it. | 00:55:41 | |
| Everyone might like to hear. | 00:55:45 | |
| That were. | 00:55:47 | |
| Is it still in this ula? Because I saw earlier and I'm having a hard time finding it now, but the temporary name is 10th and | 00:55:49 | |
| August School District. I think that was pulled out just because we didn't want to presume OK, what it would be. The new school | 00:55:54 | |
| board has the right to name itself OK and so. | 00:55:59 | |
| So we're not saying love PG all the time. I think they're going to at some point we will establish a temporary name and then we | 00:56:05 | |
| will, once our new school board is elected come November, then a lot of things will move forward with them and they'll. | 00:56:11 | |
| They will get together and make a lot of decisions that. | 00:56:18 | |
| We're hoping a city. | 00:56:21 | |
| Well, I've met with several City Council members and. | 00:56:23 | |
| And heard kind of from some of the mayors of our surrounding cities and the other school districts. | 00:56:27 | |
| And I'm sorry, the other interlocals. | 00:56:31 | |
| And most of the goals here are, just like Jamie said, to represent our cities well, to make sure that we're getting what we need. | 00:56:35 | |
| Infrastructure wise and that our students will be taking care of, but we really would like to do. | 00:56:43 | |
| We we really would like to leave as many decisions up to the new school board as possible. | 00:56:48 | |
| And just kind of set them up for success and do what we need to do in preparation. So this is the first big step. | 00:56:54 | |
| By creating this interlocal agreement. | 00:57:00 | |
| I know Orem had this in front of them last night and approved it. | 00:57:04 | |
| And they might. They actually have one little change, but. | 00:57:07 | |
| They approved a slightly different version, so they will reconvene. | 00:57:11 | |
| Think at their Christmas party. | 00:57:16 | |
| So what was the difference in versions? | 00:57:18 | |
| They they had worked ahead and were beginning to prepare some of the how would you contribute resources and how would you vote on. | 00:57:21 | |
| Decisions that we need to make. | 00:57:31 | |
| We all decided we wanted some time to work through that. | 00:57:33 | |
| And that's why we. | 00:57:37 | |
| Everybody wanted to get the ILA in place so we can do what statutorily required. | 00:57:39 | |
| But have it be as stare as is necessary for that. | 00:57:44 | |
| And then we'll bring an amendment forward to the four cities once we figure out the other issues and and the other issues. | 00:57:48 | |
| They're simple when you think of it. | 00:57:56 | |
| In terms of how do you divide the assets of the school? | 00:57:59 | |
| Because an Alpine school district will create an inventory. | 00:58:02 | |
| And then? | 00:58:07 | |
| The three school districts will have to figure out who gets what. | 00:58:09 | |
| And with the current school district, you have some facilities that are just within cities and I think the expectation is. | 00:58:13 | |
| If a school building is located within a city, it will remain in the district that's within that city's boundaries. | 00:58:21 | |
| Or does it correspond with that city's boundaries? | 00:58:28 | |
| There are some shared resources that aren't that easy to divide. | 00:58:31 | |
| They have transportation facilities. They have. | 00:58:35 | |
| Technical education facilities and career education facilities that are shared but are located in one city. | 00:58:38 | |
| And they have IT facilities and things like that. | 00:58:47 | |
| That will be a little bit more complicated to divide. | 00:58:50 | |
| And then all the assets aren't equal. You have new school buildings, you have older school buildings, they have different | 00:58:53 | |
| maintenance needs. | 00:58:56 | |
| And so some of the things we've talked about in this. | 00:59:02 | |
| Is not decided exactly how we want to handle it. This group will have to sort through that, but. | 00:59:06 | |
| It's what kinds of studies and financial information do you need to have in place. | 00:59:11 | |
| So when the new school. | 00:59:17 | |
| Board is elected. | 00:59:20 | |
| You can hand it to them and have them be able to hit the ground running instead of having to create all that information on the | 00:59:21 | |
| family. | 00:59:24 | |
| Thank you, Jamie. | 00:59:29 | |
| The. | 00:59:31 | |
| So just like a couple notes, if you know anyone that would be a good school board representative, it'd be a great time to get | 00:59:33 | |
| involved. This is a really big. | 00:59:37 | |
| A big project that now. | 00:59:41 | |
| They'll be working on and we'd love to have in your representation also in meeting with the cities and our new school district. | 00:59:43 | |
| There's a lot of excitement to be working together, there's a lot of good positive attitudes and. | 00:59:52 | |
| And then also in working with the other cities that are in their other. | 00:59:58 | |
| Inter locals it's been pretty great. Were specifically watching and working on a. | 01:00:02 | |
| Bill that's coming forward by Senator Keith Grover. He presented it in front of the. | 01:00:08 | |
| Legislative body. | 01:00:13 | |
| Last week or the week before. And so it's been very interesting because it will definitely have an effect on some of the details | 01:00:15 | |
| of the split. | 01:00:19 | |
| And so we've been working and studying that and hopefully we'll have some red lines to submit to Keith Grover, who's been really | 01:00:23 | |
| great to work with so. | 01:00:28 | |
| And Council, do you have any questions or discussion? Yeah. | 01:00:33 | |
| I probably need to disclose again. I do this all the time. Conflict of interest I'm. | 01:00:37 | |
| Alpine school districts auction service I work for public surplus have for. | 01:00:43 | |
| 17 years. | 01:00:48 | |
| And I said this to Eric at our meeting, and I know you said you don't want to use the word divorce. | 01:00:51 | |
| But it really is a divorce. | 01:00:58 | |
| Having done the auction of many school districts, but probably 1500. | 01:01:00 | |
| I mean, we do them every two weeks or so. | 01:01:06 | |
| It's like having a baby sometimes and you're saying I'm going to split half and half and to describe it, it's like. | 01:01:11 | |
| You're going to split the value of a building. | 01:01:18 | |
| But there's some things that are in the building that are customized that are there that you sometimes someone wants, but | 01:01:20 | |
| sometimes they don't want. | 01:01:24 | |
| But then you have to recreate that, for example. I'm sure that. | 01:01:29 | |
| The school district to the north doesn't want that massive of a building because they're not going to be using. | 01:01:33 | |
| That large of a building. | 01:01:39 | |
| Because it will use less, but so they'll get more value and so there's a lot of intricate conversations. | 01:01:41 | |
| Thousands of them. | 01:01:47 | |
| That will go. | 01:01:49 | |
| We'll go into that and, umm. | 01:01:52 | |
| So I just want to disclose that. | 01:01:56 | |
| The second thing though, is umm. | 01:01:58 | |
| To your point, I. | 01:02:01 | |
| I know, you reiterate. | 01:02:02 | |
| That Marty will be in the meeting. | 01:02:05 | |
| And with the mayor and that. | 01:02:08 | |
| Umm, with the public meeting minutes it doesn't allow. | 01:02:10 | |
| Me to be there on that Monday meeting but. | 01:02:16 | |
| On Monday. | 01:02:19 | |
| The mayor wasn't there, right? | 01:02:21 | |
| No, Eric and I attended the most recent meeting, so there's a lot of meetings that there is one and I'm still not being told of or | 01:02:24 | |
| being included on. I I would have been happy to have you there. | 01:02:30 | |
| I assume the mayor was coming. So that's something that you would just want to get in touch with her about her scheduling, right? | 01:02:37 | |
| But we as a culture continue to and I have meetings with Eric. | 01:02:41 | |
| And the mayor's there. | 01:02:46 | |
| Mayor hasn't met with me for months, right? | 01:02:47 | |
| But every time she assumes. | 01:02:50 | |
| And then it's blocked. | 01:02:52 | |
| And I know you were not for the split. | 01:02:54 | |
| I was more of letting the citizens vote. So I come from a different perspective. Let me clarify. I actually thought a two way | 01:02:58 | |
| split would have been a two. Yeah, and I was more 3. Just, I'm just saying, different. | 01:03:03 | |
| I just don't want those that have a different perspective to continue to be blocked out because that was a very big meeting on | 01:03:09 | |
| Monday. | 01:03:12 | |
| I have many cities that call me right after. | 01:03:16 | |
| Knowing that it's an hour long meeting, there's a lot of details that are there. | 01:03:19 | |
| And I could probably assign somebody an advisor or somebody that. | 01:03:22 | |
| Is not me that could be there that could listen into that perspective and I could understand. | 01:03:26 | |
| Because that legislation, that is going to be. | 01:03:31 | |
| Up on the Hill by Senator Grover. It was pretty controversial about like, should we do tons more? | 01:03:34 | |
| I mean, I'm not in the meeting, so again, I don't, I don't know, but it's. | 01:03:40 | |
| Should we do a lot of things? | 01:03:43 | |
| Prior to the split? Or should we do after and what is that? | 01:03:46 | |
| You know, legislative code, and so I just want to reiterate that. | 01:03:49 | |
| I don't want to be left out. It's a, it's a passion thing I'd like to be able to have. | 01:03:53 | |
| Even if it's not me. | 01:03:57 | |
| I could assign somebody, this is my education person. Even if you and the mayor there, they could be at the meeting. | 01:03:59 | |
| Well, I think that the specifically the culture of the. | 01:04:05 | |
| The cities for the school board. | 01:04:10 | |
| For the, sorry, all three interlocals, they want to actually cut it down. They don't like that there's so many people there. So I | 01:04:13 | |
| don't think that they would really like the idea of having someone that's not associated as a city manager or a city | 01:04:18 | |
| representative. | 01:04:23 | |
| Being the mayor, they specifically are looking to only have one or two people from each city, including the city manager at this | 01:04:28 | |
| next meeting on Monday. They want less. | 01:04:32 | |
| Right. And I understand there's going to be certain meetings that are that way, that there's continual meetings that I get texts | 01:04:37 | |
| and emails about saying I cannot believe that you're not there. | 01:04:41 | |
| And I go wow. And there's other staff. So I mean, you're, you're welcome to. I think I get what you're saying, Jake, because | 01:04:46 | |
| there's meetings that I'd like to go to too, but I'm not on the council assignment for those things. | 01:04:52 | |
| I think 1 recommendation I would give you that would be a really good person to catch you up is maybe calling Julie King. | 01:04:57 | |
| Because she's kind of led all of the. | 01:05:04 | |
| Keith Grover, Bill Red Lines, and she has a lot of really good information. | 01:05:07 | |
| And she would be a good asset. You could also call Ada. | 01:05:12 | |
| And hear her opinion because she is our school board. Represent representation. | 01:05:16 | |
| But personally just. | 01:05:21 | |
| Just as, just as. | 01:05:24 | |
| From my perspective. | 01:05:27 | |
| Those meetings are really wonderful, but a lot of what I learned is making those phone calls after, just like you were talking | 01:05:29 | |
| about your phone calls. | 01:05:33 | |
| I learn a lot by actually having a one-on-one conversations to get. | 01:05:37 | |
| Different perspectives than what they might just be presenting in that large group. | 01:05:41 | |
| But yeah, Jake, I'm not kidding. I actually said the words. It would have been great to have Jake then because I know you wanted | 01:05:44 | |
| to go, but I had to say that seat for the mayor so we can discuss that as it comes further. But. | 01:05:50 | |
| Well, I hate to say anything about the mayor's not here, but because, but I also want to not deflect this on any of you and. | 01:05:56 | |
| Cast any of you in bad light for me being over here, but. | 01:06:03 | |
| If the argument is always, you must be. | 01:06:07 | |
| In charge of that responsibility, Board or chair. | 01:06:10 | |
| And again I. | 01:06:13 | |
| 2024 is going to end and I'm not on any of them, right? So it's hard to end the year of never being involved in a meeting, right? | 01:06:15 | |
| But. | 01:06:19 | |
| I don't want that culture to go into 2025. | 01:06:24 | |
| And hear things late. | 01:06:26 | |
| And then it. | 01:06:29 | |
| I want to have good feelings of being able to be at the table right? | 01:06:31 | |
| A couple things. | 01:06:34 | |
| This will all change once we have our new form of government. So that'll be that'll be a. | 01:06:36 | |
| A good solution for this issue. | 01:06:42 | |
| But I think there's. | 01:06:45 | |
| There's some other things that we could talk about maybe later if we wanted to put this on the agenda to talk about it as a group | 01:06:46 | |
| with the mayor involved. | 01:06:50 | |
| But I appreciate your comments. | 01:06:54 | |
| I mean, we do hold the ability in the coming year. | 01:06:56 | |
| Go ahead and move on now. Well, just I had one more question for Jim. We do have the ability to change city charter and code to | 01:06:59 | |
| how? | 01:07:03 | |
| Assignments are given. | 01:07:07 | |
| With three a simple majority vote, right? | 01:07:08 | |
| I don't know that I understand your question. | 01:07:12 | |
| By code. That's just that. We voted to give that authority to the mayor, right? | 01:07:23 | |
| Well, that's the case in. | 01:07:29 | |
| You know, every city I'm aware of is the appointments are made by the mayor. You could. | 01:07:31 | |
| Sure, you could make a change to your city code to handle it differently. So if the three of us said hey, we would like to. | 01:07:36 | |
| I mean I'm getting paid 25,000 a year right? To do something? | 01:07:43 | |
| I'd love to do. | 01:07:46 | |
| I don't know, 19, whatever. | 01:07:48 | |
| I didn't get the checks, whatever it is. | 01:07:51 | |
| You know, whatever I get paid. | 01:07:53 | |
| 800 conversation for another meeting. That's not the agenda item. OK, But just look into the next year of ways we can. | 01:07:56 | |
| And I can I can walk through how the representation works on this interlocal agreement. | 01:08:05 | |
| You know, and how they're reporting that would be but. | 01:08:11 | |
| The with an ILA you have to establish some kind of structure of how the different cities will interact. | 01:08:13 | |
| Well, and I. | 01:08:20 | |
| I appreciate that the ILA does involve a council member, Jake. It originally didn't involve a council member, so. | 01:08:21 | |
| I think that we're setting up a really good form of communication here. | 01:08:28 | |
| And. | 01:08:32 | |
| I would agree with that. It's as many elected officials as you can have participate without it becoming. | 01:08:34 | |
| De facto council meeting for each of the four entities. | 01:08:41 | |
| It will allow you to get that work done. You're not contributing any resources right now beyond. | 01:08:44 | |
| A commitment to share in the cost of creating a survey and I think sharing in the cost of the filing fee with the Lieutenant | 01:08:51 | |
| governor's office is 25 bucks. You'll support four ways. | 01:08:56 | |
| So I would say we should have offered to pay for it. So the surveyor will be a little more than $25.00, but not it's not a big | 01:09:02 | |
| expenditure. | 01:09:06 | |
| When you see the next version come forward, I. | 01:09:10 | |
| What you'll see in it. | 01:09:13 | |
| Will be if resources are contributed. How do you do that? | 01:09:15 | |
| And. | 01:09:19 | |
| That may need to be more than just a 1/4 split because the school, the different cities have different numbers of student | 01:09:20 | |
| populations and taxpayers and everything else. | 01:09:25 | |
| Perfect. Umm. | 01:09:30 | |
| OK. So I think we can make a motion to approve this resolution if everyone is comfortable. | 01:09:31 | |
| If I could just get the money. | 01:09:39 | |
| All right, there's you'll need to put two things in the motion. One will be to approve the resolution authorizing the ILA. | 01:09:41 | |
| The other would be naming Councilman C Fuentes to be the cities. | 01:09:47 | |
| Council representative assigned to this. | 01:09:52 | |
| I moved to adopt. Is that what I said? | 01:09:59 | |
| I moved to adopt resolution 2436 as presented. | 01:10:02 | |
| And with the council representative as. | 01:10:07 | |
| Oh, where am I switched to that? | 01:10:11 | |
| Just added in and as the Council representative, Councilman Sefuentes. | 01:10:13 | |
| OK, so we have a first page 8. | 01:10:19 | |
| Can I get a second? | 01:10:22 | |
| Second, Second by Sarah. This is a resolution, so we will do it by roll call Sarah. | 01:10:24 | |
| Aye, aye. | 01:10:32 | |
| Aye, Jake, aye. | 01:10:33 | |
| Perfect, the lesson passes. All right, so that takes us to. | 01:10:35 | |
| Our mayor and council member reports. | 01:10:41 | |
| And just as a reminder, this is not meant to be long discussions if there are things that we want to put on the agenda. | 01:10:44 | |
| We can talk about those things, but. | 01:10:51 | |
| Why don't we go ahead and start with you, Sir? | 01:10:53 | |
| OK. | 01:10:57 | |
| So usually when this comes, you know. | 01:10:59 | |
| Every. | 01:11:02 | |
| Every so many weeks so much has happened in my mind's just. | 01:11:03 | |
| You know, goes blank. | 01:11:07 | |
| Maybe it's the microphone, I don't know. | 01:11:08 | |
| But I wanted to slow down a minute. | 01:11:11 | |
| Because I blazed past my last one. | 01:11:13 | |
| And I didn't acknowledge Brian for the excellent Blizzard race that happened. | 01:11:16 | |
| He does such a good job on those 5K's and they're so well attended. | 01:11:21 | |
| And everybody had fun and. | 01:11:26 | |
| Yeah, so it was good and I got to hand out water and. | 01:11:29 | |
| Yes. | 01:11:33 | |
| So David and Jane ran. | 01:11:34 | |
| Yeah, Anyway, is this a very cool thing? | 01:11:37 | |
| And then I didn't say I whined about being the only council member at the Palooza table. | 01:11:40 | |
| And I neglected the fact that Anna. | 01:11:47 | |
| Supplied candy. She set up my booth. She brought me decorations. | 01:11:49 | |
| Like we have such an amazing staff that just go overboard to make our city really special and really amazing. | 01:11:54 | |
| And I wanted to make sure that I acknowledged you guys. | 01:12:00 | |
| And Morgan, always. | 01:12:04 | |
| Brings me my diet Doctor Pepper so I can stay awake. | 01:12:06 | |
| Thank you very much. And then we had our. | 01:12:11 | |
| Christmas party. | 01:12:14 | |
| And Sullivan pulled me aside and introduced me to his staff. | 01:12:20 | |
| And then Nassim pointed out his staff. | 01:12:26 | |
| And they just sat and bragged about what excellent people they work with and how grateful they were and how hard they work. | 01:12:28 | |
| To make our city amazing and I was so impressed. | 01:12:35 | |
| Just a feeling of kindness and camaraderie and. | 01:12:38 | |
| Of lifting each other up to do the best they can. | 01:12:43 | |
| For our city. | 01:12:46 | |
| I was just, I was humbled and I was impressed and I just. | 01:12:48 | |
| Well done, all of you, really. | 01:12:52 | |
| So. | 01:12:55 | |
| It's been an interesting thing to sit in this seat. | 01:12:57 | |
| I've said from the beginning I never wanted to do this. | 01:13:01 | |
| To see the what happens behind the scenes is so impressive to me. | 01:13:05 | |
| I just sit in my house and I. | 01:13:11 | |
| Love where I live and we live in a beautiful safe. | 01:13:13 | |
| Clean City and. | 01:13:17 | |
| How many years I've taken that for granted? | 01:13:19 | |
| While you guys are. | 01:13:22 | |
| Behind the scenes making it all happen and I so appreciate it. I just want to let you know. | 01:13:25 | |
| I think you're awesome. | 01:13:30 | |
| Thank you. Thank you, Sir. | 01:13:32 | |
| And. | 01:13:34 | |
| Brett, do you want to go ahead? | 01:13:39 | |
| Yeah, but what I'd like to comment on is again as the new guy. | 01:13:41 | |
| Just how much? | 01:13:46 | |
| I appreciate staff coming over and bending over backwards to get me up to speed and educate me. | 01:13:48 | |
| So that going into the new year. | 01:13:54 | |
| I don't sit here and say, hey, I'm the new guy. | 01:13:57 | |
| And I can. | 01:14:00 | |
| Formulate some. | 01:14:02 | |
| Much more informed opinions in making better decisions than. | 01:14:04 | |
| I might if I were just trying to figure this out on my own. | 01:14:08 | |
| And specifically. | 01:14:13 | |
| Wanted to call out that I've had. | 01:14:15 | |
| Six different meetings already, which accounts for about. | 01:14:18 | |
| Five hours of time. | 01:14:24 | |
| Plus some time with other council members and the mayor. | 01:14:28 | |
| And more coming up. | 01:14:31 | |
| So it's a. | 01:14:33 | |
| It is a little humbling to see how much goes into running a city. | 01:14:35 | |
| And I also very much appreciate all the citizens who come out and spend their time here. | 01:14:41 | |
| I remember. | 01:14:49 | |
| Years ago, going to a council meeting in a different city. | 01:14:50 | |
| With a group of scouts. | 01:14:53 | |
| And man, we could not wait to leave. | 01:14:56 | |
| So as soon as there was a minute, we did. | 01:14:59 | |
| So I very much appreciate everybody who does this work. | 01:15:03 | |
| And is engaged in what we're doing. | 01:15:07 | |
| Awesome. Thank you so much. | 01:15:11 | |
| All right, Jake. | 01:15:12 | |
| I surmised all the requests throughout the year that I had submitted and sent them back to the mayor for approval and I know they | 01:15:16 | |
| didn't get. | 01:15:19 | |
| On the agenda today. | 01:15:24 | |
| And I didn't do it to throw it in her face or anyone's faces, but. | 01:15:25 | |
| I just wanted to stress that these are these are people behind all of them. | 01:15:30 | |
| You know whether at the. | 01:15:34 | |
| The biking committee and I don't even think they voted for me. | 01:15:36 | |
| Coming to me and saying, hey, why don't we put this on to fix Holloway Road or? | 01:15:39 | |
| Sean Herring spending a lot of time putting together a. | 01:15:44 | |
| An alternative City Hall that. | 01:15:47 | |
| Spent hours to say hey this is where we could save money. | 01:15:49 | |
| Or different issues. I know what far away land owners and my father wanted to speak. | 01:15:53 | |
| These are people that wanted to hear about World Trade Center Utah, OR in April. | 01:16:00 | |
| Hey, why are what are we doing with our survey policy? | 01:16:05 | |
| And you know, having been vote in, I don't like to bring in contentious issues, but these are people that would like that deserve | 01:16:08 | |
| to be in the public square to be heard. | 01:16:13 | |
| And even though it's Christmas season. | 01:16:17 | |
| I just want to say I don't hate anyone that disagrees with them. I hope we can have a great. | 01:16:19 | |
| Christmas season, but I hope that 2025 can be. | 01:16:24 | |
| Allowing those people into our city as well. | 01:16:29 | |
| Thank you, Jake. | 01:16:31 | |
| Now I saw your e-mail and there's a lot of good items on there and I. | 01:16:33 | |
| From my understanding, there's. | 01:16:36 | |
| And I know some of you guys were like, I didn't know. And I, and from now on I'll be very more public on I've submitted this to | 01:16:39 | |
| the mayor. | 01:16:42 | |
| I don't know. | 01:16:46 | |
| I spoke with Brett about how when I submitted to the mayor, does it go to a dark hole? And then I'm finding you, you know? | 01:16:48 | |
| Maybe it doesn't get known to get to that third vote. | 01:16:55 | |
| To be able to put on an I'm getting frustrated and so. | 01:16:58 | |
| I'm going to be very, I'm going to work to be very transparent every two weeks to resubmit these and say, hey, they deserve to be | 01:17:01 | |
| heard. | 01:17:04 | |
| On its merits with a. | 01:17:07 | |
| Up or down vote like the permits on? | 01:17:09 | |
| You know, 300 W or others. It's just you know, we resubmit and submit and so anyway. | 01:17:12 | |
| The mayor did send you back an e-mail and everything you requested was on a line item. None of them were put on the agenda today. | 01:17:17 | |
| Not today. But she gave you a timeline and showed you when they were going to be, right. And she's put those timelines on and the | 01:17:23 | |
| gamesmanship of it. OK, it'll be in June and then it'll be the July and then it'll be the November and. | 01:17:29 | |
| A year is now passed and so yeah, there's some delays. This is the first time I seen where she actually took everything you said | 01:17:36 | |
| and put it in a line item. | 01:17:39 | |
| And there were quite a few things in the beginning of this. | 01:17:42 | |
| The beginning of the summer. | 01:17:46 | |
| That we all talked about getting on the agenda and they were on the agenda. | 01:17:48 | |
| None of these items were put on the agenda though. Sarah. | 01:17:54 | |
| Anyway, we can talk about later. | 01:17:57 | |
| I mean I. | 01:17:59 | |
| Having played the game back and forth, you know, I'm more than happy to go through line by line of the requests and I know many of | 01:18:01 | |
| you guys never heard of the request so. | 01:18:05 | |
| Well, I think, I think it's fair to say a couple of their press review and you were just requested. Yeah, like Sean was new. Yeah, | 01:18:10 | |
| there were, there were the last two, yeah. So. | 01:18:14 | |
| But I did see the response where it shows that we do have some progress. I think that's worth celebrating and. | 01:18:19 | |
| I look forward to discussing these things. | 01:18:25 | |
| Umm, did you have anything else you wanted to talk about? | 01:18:28 | |
| It's been a challenge, I'll leave it at that. | 01:18:33 | |
| OK. All right. | 01:18:41 | |
| OK. For my report, it has been a lot of meetings. | 01:18:46 | |
| Specifically, mostly phone calls for the school district, but then we did have, we are working on Keith Grover's bill amendments. | 01:18:51 | |
| I also had a meeting with Flagborough and Huntsman Cancer Institute. As you guys heard, the grocery store, we're having progress | 01:18:58 | |
| there and that's really exciting. Huntsman also, we're having progress with with the future ground breaking. | 01:19:06 | |
| And. | 01:19:14 | |
| I always feel like same Sir, I I have notes but it never feels like I do it justice. I too want to reiterate the fact that staff | 01:19:16 | |
| is fantastic. I've had the opportunity to meet with. | 01:19:21 | |
| Our communications department and I've had a lot of discussions about planning and just everything you guys do, I'm just so | 01:19:26 | |
| grateful to be associated with. | 01:19:30 | |
| All of you and seeing the staff camaraderie. | 01:19:35 | |
| Like Sarah was saying, just the love. | 01:19:39 | |
| You guys all have for one another. It just shows that there's a really great. | 01:19:42 | |
| A great culture within our city staff and so we're really. | 01:19:45 | |
| We're so blessed to have you all, so thank you. | 01:19:49 | |
| I believe that moves us to Eric. | 01:19:53 | |
| Did you have anything you wanted to share? | 01:19:55 | |
| I'm going to send out. | 01:19:59 | |
| Report to the Council from all of our departments. | 01:20:00 | |
| That will get included in the packet and be published online with today's meeting. So I'll just get that packet sent out to you. | 01:20:04 | |
| Awesome, thank you. | 01:20:08 | |
| There's my justification is that there's so much happening that we end up with A5 page report and I feel guilty. | 01:20:12 | |
| Reading through A5 page report in here and it's much easier to digest for public and for council to. | 01:20:21 | |
| Get that in an e-mail form. | 01:20:27 | |
| Online so that you can kind of peruse it and see all the cool things that are happening. Awesome. | 01:20:29 | |
| Pam, did I do all of my job appropriately? Is there anything else I've missed? | 01:20:34 | |
| OK. Well then I guess I will just probably welcome. | 01:20:40 | |
| Council member, I think. | 01:20:44 | |
| Officially your first official, yeah. | 01:20:49 | |
| Brett, welcome. I'm happy to have you. | 01:20:52 | |
| Thank you. | 01:20:55 | |
| Anything else? OK, then I move to adjourn. | 01:20:56 |