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City Recorder Pamela Spencer opened the meeting at00 PM. She called for a motion to elect a mayor pro tempore.
Motion: COUNCILMEMBER CAMERON NOMINATED COUNCILMEMBER SIFUENTES AS THE MAYOR PRO TEMPORE. COUNCILMEMBER HOLDAWAY SECONDED THE MOTION. ROLL CALL WENT AS FOLLOWS: COUNCILMEMBERS CAMERON, CLAWSON, HOLDAWAY AND SIFUENTES VOTED YES. MAYOR FULLMER WAS EXCUSED. THE MOTION CARRIED WITH ONE ABSENT.
The meeting was recessed until after the Redevelopment Agency Board Meeting.
The City council meeting resumed at14 PM.            PRESENTATIONS/RECOGNITIONS/AWARDS/PROCLAMATIONS There were no presentations, recognitions, awards, or proclamations.          WORK SESSION1.   UtahCityParkingPresentationandDiscussion Mayor Pro Tempore Sifuentes turned the time over to Nate Hutchinson with Flagship (Flagborough).
Mr. Brim reminded the council that this was from a previous parking discussion.
Mr. Hutchinson reviewed the questions they were asked to respond to.     Parking management along roads within the development that were not transit users.     Overall parking management of the project; how roads, structures, and lots would be handled long-term.     How parking would be contained on site as the project builds out.     Parking Study. He reviewed the parking study requirements.
He noted that they were under construction on the first0 units and planned to build the next phase in26. He explained the reason for parking issues in other areas of the city.
He said that they would be selling units once the promenade, retail, grocery store, and Huntsman Cancer Institute were established.
He explained that they had more parking planned than what was required by the zoning code for the grocery store. He reviewed parking to the south of the project and felt that it would be contained within the downtown area. They were committed to having enough parking in the downtown area.
Councilmember Cameron asked about progress on the grocery store. Mr. Hutchinson replied that piers were in the ground, and they would start footings and foundation in January.
Mr. Brim asked about restrictions on Main Street and the transit road. Mr. Hutchinson replied that parking would be restricted along Main Street and that they were working with Utah Transit Authority (UTA) to increase their parking with a shared parking plan. There was a discussion about parking and keeping roads restricted.
Mayor Pro Tempore Sifuentes asked if they were working with a study group. Mr. Hutchinson replied that they were narrowing it down and then would present their recommendation to city staff for approval. He noted that they were willing to work with the city on the timing of when the parking study would be required to be completed. The parking discussion continued.
Resident Daria Evans, living in the Villas subdivision, asked how the shared parking structure would work for people who use UTA to get the airport. She also asked about the00 units vs00 parking spots.
Mr. Hutchinson replied what there would be stalls for overnight parking with UTA requirements. City Manager Eric Ellis explained that residents needing the overnight parking would contact UTA. Mr. Hutchinson explained that this was for the current0 units under construction not the full00 units.
Councilmember Holdawayexpressed his concern with how parking studies were conducted. Mayor Pro Tempore Sifuentes replied that she had just watched Orem’s Council meeting, and their mayor said that they could plan but things changed. She felt that they needed to have continual studies. Councilmember Holdaway, for the record, disagreed with Mayor Pro Tempore Sifuentes’ statement.
Pete Evans with Flagborough explained that this was what was codified in the code to true up what was required and what was needed. A discussion ensued.          PUBLICCOMMENTS
Karen Cornelious, living in the Villas subdivision, gave a shout out to Lieutenant Rockwell and Public Works Director Naseem Ghandour who solved an issue they had in front of the Villas Club House last week.
Ms. Evans also thanked Lieutenant Rockwell and Public Works Director Naseem Ghandour. She thanked Parks and Recreation Director Brian Vawdrey and Recreation Manager Zach Baty for holding a recreation forum for the Villas’ residents.          MAYORANDCOUNCILMEMBERS'REPORTS/DISCLOSURES/RECUSALS (These reports were moved to end of the meeting.)
Mayor Pro Tempore Sifuentes called for a motion.
Motion: COUNCILMEMBER HOLDAWAY MOVED TO APPROVE AND ADOPT THE CONSENT ITEMS AS PRESENTED. COUNCILMEMBER CAMERON SECONDED THE MOTION. ROLL CALL WENT AS FOLLOWS: MAYOR PRO TEMPORE SIFUENTES, COUNCILMEMBERS CAMERON, CLAWSON, HOLDAWAY VOTED YES. MAYOR FULLMER WAS EXCUSED. THE MOTION CARRIED WITH ONE ABSENT.            APPOINTMENTS/REMOVALS There were no appointments made at this time.            BUSINESSITEMS1.   DISCUSSIONANDACTION-BidAwardforITandCybersecurityServices (Resolution24-30) Chad Davis and Jarom Roney, with Onward Technology, will give a presentation on IT and Cybersecurity. Afterward, Executive Assistant Natilee Allen will present the winningbidforITandCybersecurityservices.ThemayorandCityCouncilwillactto adopt or deny this request by resolution.
Executive Assistant Natilee Allen reviewed the process staff had gone through to recommend a qualified company. She turned the time over to Chad Davis with Onward Technology.
Mr. Davis gave a presentation on IT and Cybersecurity and what their company could provide.
Councilmember Clawson asked if they had a preference for a password manager. Mr. Davis replied that it would be Bitwarden.
Mayor Pro Tempore Sifuentes called for a motion.
Motion: COUNCILMEMBER CAMERON MOVED TO ADOPT RESOLUTION24-30 AS PRESENTED. COUNCILMEMBER CLAWSON SECONDED THE MOTION. ROLL CALL WENT AS FOLLOWS: MAYOR PRO TEMPORE SIFUENTES, COUNCILMEMBERS CAMERON, AND CLAWSON VOTED YES. COUNCILMEMBER HOLDAWAY VOTED NO. MAYOR FULLMER WAS EXCUSED. THE MOTION CARRIED THREE (3) TO ONE, (1) WITH ONE ABSENT.
Mr. Brim clarified that parking south of the civic square on Main Street in the downtown area would not be allowed.
Councilmember Holdaway felt that they had the lowest parking requirement of the city. Mr. Brim replied that he would look it up and get back to him.  2.   PUBLICHEARING-AdoptionofOrdinanceforsalaryincreases(Ordinance24-17) CityManager,EricEllis,willpresentanordinanceproposingsalaryincreasefor statutory staff as required per State Code-3-818.
Mayor Pro Tempore Sifuentes called for a motion.
Motion: COUNCILMEMBER HOLDAWAY MOVED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT55 PM. COUNCILMEMBER CAMERON SECONDED THE MOTION. MAYOR PRO TEMPORE SIFUENTES, COUNCILMEMBERS CAMERON, CLAWSON, AND HOLDAWAY VOTED YES. MAYOR FULLMER WAS EXCUSED. THE MOTION CARRIED WITH ONE ABSENT.
Mr. Ellis reviewed the ordinance and increase in the salary.
Mayor Pro Tempore Sifuentes called for public comments. Hearing none, she called for a motion to close the public hearing.
Motion: COUNCILMEMBER HOLDAWAY MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT57 PM. COUNCILMEMBER CAMERON SECONDED THE MOTION. MAYOR PRO TEMPORE SIFUENTES, COUNCILMEMBERS CAMERON, CLAWSON, AND HOLDAWAY VOTED YES. MAYOR FULLMER WAS EXCUSED. THE MOTION CARRIED WITH ONE ABSENT.
Mayor Pro Tempore Sifuentes called for comments from the council or a motion.
Councilmember Holdaway noted that he was in favor of the increase.
Motion: COUNCILMEMBERS CAMERON MOVED TO ADOPT ORDINANCE24-17, APPROVING THE RECOMMENDED SALARY INCREASE FOR THE FINANCE DIRECTOR AS PRESENTED AND AFTER SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION (GFOA) CERTIFICATION PROGRAM. COUNCILMEMBER CLAWSON SECONDED THE MOTION. ROLL CALL WENT AS FOLLOWS: MAYOR PRO TEMPORE SIFUENTES, COUNCILMEMBERS CAMERON, CLAWSON, AND HOLDAWAY VOTED YES. MAYOR FULLMER WAS EXCUSED. THE MOTION CARRIED WITH ONE ABSENT.  3.   INTERLOCALAGREEMENTREGARDINGACTIVITIESRELATEDTO FORMATIONOFREORGANIZEDNEWSCHOOLDISTRICTSERVING RESIDENTSOFTHECITIESOFLINDON,OREM,PLEASANTGROVE, AND VINEYARD (Resolution24-36) Intherecentgeneralelection,twoseparateballotinitiatives(Prop11and14)tosplit theAlpineSchoolDistrictwereapprovedandresultedinathree-waydivisionofthe district. Because of the school district division, the four remaining municipalities, Lindon, Orem, Pleasant Grove, and Vineyard will form a "reorganized new school district" to serve the residents. The parties of the reorganized new school district recognize the need to cooperate during the transition into the new district and this interlocal agreement provides the framework of the needed cooperation.
Mayor Pro Tempore Sifuentes turned the time over to City Attorney Jayme Blakesly. (She mentioned the acronym of LOVPG; Lindon, Orem, Vineyard and Pleasant Grove)
Mr. Blakesley gave a background on the school district formation issues. He then reviewed the interlocal agreement. He clarified who would represent the city: the mayor, city manager, and one member of the city council.
Mayor Pro Tempore Sifuentes asked about the temporary name of the new school district. She mentioned that they wanted to leave most of the decisions to the new school board who would be elected next November. There was a discussion about the different versions of the ILA. Mr. Blakesley mentioned that Alpine School District would inventory the assets and then the three new districts would determine who gets what.
Mayor Pro Tempore Sifuentes suggested that it was a good time to get involved as a school board member. She mentioned that there was a lot of excitement to work with the other cities. She said that they were watching and working on a bill presented by Representative Keith Grover which would affect details of the split.
Councilmember Holdaway disclosed a conflict of interest with working with Alpine School District on their surplus property. He asked about when he would be able to attend the meetings. There was a discussion about the meetings. Mayor Pro Tempore Sifuentes felt that she learned a lot by having one-on-one conversations and recommended that Councilmember Holdaway reach out to Julie King. The discussion continued.
Councilmember Holdaway asked about changing the city code to change how assignments were given to councilmembers. Mr. Blakesley replied that in most cities the mayor makes the assignments, but the council could change it.
Mr. Blakesley explained that the ILA established protocol for who would be participating on the board.
Mayor Pro Tempore Sifuentes called for a motion. Mr. Blakesley stated that they needed two items in the motion.
Motion: COUNCILMEMBER HOLDAWAY MOVED TO ADOPT RESOLUTION24-36 WITH THE COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE AS COUNCILMEMBER SIFUENTES. COUNCILMEMBER CAMERON SECONDED THE MOTION. ROLL CALL WENT AS FOLLOWS: MAYOR PRO TEMPORE SIFUENTES, COUNCILMEMBERS CAMERON, CLAWSON, AND HOLDAWAY VOTED YES. MAYOR FULLMER WAS EXCUSED. THE MOTION CARRIED WITH ONE ABSENT.    .      CLOSEDSESSION No closed session was held.
Councilmember Cameronacknowledged Mr. Vawdrey for the amazing Blizzard race held in November. She thanked Special Event Manager Anna Nelson for her hard work on Boo-A-Palooza. She mentioned that at the Staff Christmas party she was introduced to the Public Works staff and how their managers appreciated their hard work.
Councilmember Clawson commented on how much he appreciated staff on educating him on the workings of the city.
Councilmember Holdaway mentioned that he had surmised his requests for the year and sent them to the mayor. Councilmember Camerson explained that the mayor had responded to his email and had given the council a timeline. A discussion ensued.
Mayor Pro Tempore Sifuentes reported that she had several meetings and phone calls about the school district. She mentioned the grocery store and Huntsman Cancer. She also thanked City Staff for their hard work and comradery.          STAFF,COMMISSION, ANDCOMMITTEE REPORTS
Mr. Ellis explained that he would send out a report to the council and put it online.            CONSENT ITEMS1.   Approvalof the November,24, City Council MeetingMinutes2.   Approvalofthe November13,24,CityCouncil SpecialSessionMinutes3.   Approvalofthe November20,24CityCouncil SpecialSessionMinutes4.   InterlocalCooperationAgreementBetweenUtahCountyandVineyardforan Effort to Aid the Homeless (Resolution24-35) Adoption of Resolution24-35, authorizing the Mayor to sign an interlocal agreementwithUtahCounty,supportingthe2024-2025WinterResponsePlan. ($2,000.00)
Mayor Pro Tempore Sifuentes welcomed Councilmember Brett Clawson to his first official meeting.    .     ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Pro Tempore Sifuentes adjourned the meeting at34 PM.   MINUTES APPROVED ON:   15/2025   CERTIFIED CORRECT BY:        Pamela Spencer, CIty Recorder
Hey, at 6:00 can I have everybody take their seat please? 00:00:03
Umm, I'm going to. 00:00:07
We're going to do something a little bit different tonight. We're gonna quickly open the City Council meeting. 00:00:10
At 6:00 PM on. 00:00:15
Wednesday, December 11th and. 00:00:17
Due to the mayor's absence, she had a meeting of the state tonight that she needed to attend and so I need to call for a motion to 00:00:20
elect the mayor Pro Tem. Pouring. 00:00:25
I nominate Marty. 00:00:33
OK, I need a second. 00:00:35
Hi, Jake. OK, Roll call, Jake. Yes. 00:00:38
Brett, yes. Marty, yes. 00:00:42
Sarah yes, OK, motion passed. I turn the time over to. 00:00:46
Councilmember Sifuente says the Mayor pro tempore and she will also chair. 00:00:50
The RDA meeting. 00:00:55
OK. And then I need to call this meeting to a close so that we can start guarding. 00:00:57
Reset that OK. 00:01:02
Reset. 00:01:05
OK. 00:01:13
It is December 11th at 6:14 PM. 00:01:15
And I would like to open our Vineyard City Council meeting. 00:01:19
We are going to go ahead and start with a presentation at the work session. 00:01:22
3.1 Utah City parking presentation and discussion. 00:01:27
As a reminder, there's no vote that's going to be taken tonight, this is just a discussion for the council if the public has 00:01:30
questions. 00:01:33
Umm, you were looking to be called upon, but. 00:01:37
I believe are we having. 00:01:41
Please, who's presenting or the? 00:01:44
Nate yeah. So we, we do have the the property, the property owners here to present. And just to remind this was from the parking 00:01:46
discussion where? 00:01:50
The council had several questions about the downtown Utah city in general, how parking would be managed, how they would be able to 00:01:54
control parking. 00:01:58
Potentially overflowing into adjacent properties. 00:02:03
And then just kind of the overall scheme, the temporary parking as they build out surface to structure and then the streets now. 00:02:07
Have been restricted for parking because there's construction activities and helping us to understand that. So there's a lot of 00:02:15
points. 00:02:19
That they're going to cover. You're welcome to ask questions along the way. Well, thank you for getting this set up and thank you 00:02:23
for coming. 00:02:26
We'll turn the time over to you. 00:02:31
Thank you. Thank you, Council. I don't know. 00:02:39
OK. 00:02:44
Thank you. 00:02:46
Nate Hutchinson. 00:02:52
Flagship Utah city. 00:02:53
Hope everybody's doing well. So I think there was a there was a few questions that we were asked to respond to. 00:02:56
Umm, so I'll just kind of read those and then we can. 00:03:03
I'm hoping to have a little more of an open discussion and talk through these things. 00:03:07
Parking management currently along roads and within the development of those that are not transit units. That was the first 00:03:12
transit users. That was the first question. 00:03:16
Overall parking management of the project, Howell Rd. structures and lots be handled long term. 00:03:20
How will parking be contained on site as your project builds out? 00:03:25
And then the parking study as that adjusts overtime if you remember in our code. 00:03:28
We have us or you have the ability at 500 units of construction, 1500 units of construction, 3000 units. 00:03:33
And 5000 units. 00:03:43
To require a study to be done by a professional competent parking management. 00:03:44
Group Engineer. 00:03:51
And then the parking, then the parking requirements in the community will adjust based on the findings of that study and 00:03:53
essentially whatever the study shows just become. 00:03:58
The new parking standards. 00:04:04
So that's that's kind of how that that will will work. We're obviously under construction on our first 450 units. 00:04:06
That should start to deliver in June. 00:04:13
It's going to be quite some time before those absorb and lease up and then the next units that will start to deliver will be in 00:04:16
2026. 00:04:19
So we do have some time, so we haven't. 00:04:23
Finalize the parking management plan. We're currently we've hired a property manager. It's Gray Stars, the largest property 00:04:25
management firm in the world. 00:04:29
That will be coming and managing this. This will be one of the first projects they have in Utah County. 00:04:34
I think one of the things and we've communicated this I think before here. 00:04:38
The parking issues that have been found other places in the city. 00:04:42
Have been in areas where. 00:04:46
There's not professional management being done. 00:04:48
And although ample parking may have been provided originally. 00:04:50
In some people's minds. 00:04:55
If you lease. 00:04:56
A unit, for example, that has two or three bedrooms to six or eight college students, you're gonna have a really hard time. 00:04:58
With your parking if that's you know how those units are managed and so. 00:05:04
I think one of the things that will be unique about downtown, although there will be for sale product, there will be plenty of 00:05:10
units that will be sold. 00:05:13
That's been a question that's been asked. 00:05:17
We will be selling units. 00:05:19
The hope is is to establish a sense of place. Get the promenade in, get some retail in, get the grocery store open. 00:05:21
Get Huntsman going. 00:05:27
Before we start selling product, we think, you know, selling into the Sahara desert, it takes too much vision at this point. 00:05:29
But once we establish this. 00:05:37
And and have it become a sense of place? 00:05:39
There it'll be a little bit before sale side of this will tick up. 00:05:41
We're big believers in Vineyard. Long term, we plan on owning a lot of this property for for a long, long, long time. 00:05:48
Which is another thing that's probably a little bit unique in what's happened in other areas where developers will come in, 00:05:55
they'll sell all the products they no longer have. 00:05:59
Have skin in the game. 00:06:04
And I think there's probably very few people in this room that will care as much about how parking is managed. 00:06:06
Downtown that there's ample places for people to park that want to live. 00:06:12
Come to the promenade to shop, to come to the grocery store as we will. 00:06:16
The last thing we want is to build a grocery store that doesn't have enough ample parking for everybody to come and buy groceries. 00:06:20
So we have currently in the in the grocery store that's under construction. 00:06:26
We have twice the amount of parking that's required under the code. 00:06:31
We have 850 stalls, which is about 200 stalls more than what's currently required in the code on the projects that are under 00:06:35
construction. 00:06:39
You can see most some of the first things we do when we do this is. 00:06:42
Is put the parking lots in. 00:06:46
Umm, So that umm is a little bit kind of our philosophy there. 00:06:49
I think. 00:06:54
The question of parking on either side of us containing parking downtown. I think if you look at the you might pull up a map of 00:06:56
Vineyard City. Is that possible? 00:07:02
I have I have one here but. 00:07:09
Might be easier. Oh sorry you gave me this. 00:07:13
Thanks. 00:07:20
Good to see you. 00:07:25
I think one of the things I wanted to illustrate with pulling up a plan here is the Vineyard Connector. Obviously, there's no 00:07:29
parking on Vineyard Connector. 00:07:33
So no one downtown is going to park. 00:07:37
Can or should park on Vineyard Connector? 00:07:39
Currently, there's no parking lot on Main Street. 00:07:42
Which is the next adjacent St. to us. So no one, no one that lives downtown will park there. 00:07:45
All four projects, Tucker Row, The Locks, The Preserve and Lakeshore all are professionally managed. 00:07:50
And in their Hoas. And so none of our people will be parking in there or they will be towed. 00:07:56
I believe. 00:08:02
You know they're managing their own parking. 00:08:03
I think the one Rd. 00:08:05
The lake. 00:08:07
Front Rd. 00:08:09
Which is, I think there's been a lot of discussion going back and forth on that. If you can see there on the left side of the map 00:08:10
there, the bottom left corner is that kind of Lakeshore Rd. that goes down. 00:08:15
Into the Lakeshore community. 00:08:20
Is 1 where people are talking about people parking on both sides of the road. But if you if you look at that I just. 00:08:24
I wanted to illustrate this to show that. 00:08:29
There's nowhere anywhere in the community to the South. 00:08:31
Where any of the people that are living to the north were shopping, et cetera. 00:08:36
It's more convenient than actually just going downtown and parking. We're very committed to making sure that our people, we have 00:08:41
to have enough parking here to be contained downtown. 00:08:47
We'd like the same thing to happen on the other side. 00:08:53
That those communities are managed from a parking perspective that they're not also. 00:08:55
Coming across Vineyard Connector and using all of the parking that's on the other side, that's been built for retail and for 00:09:00
everything else that's on that's on that side. 00:09:04
So that's, that's the hope that we can all work together on that and with whether that's with nightly permits that I know the city 00:09:09
has done in other places, etc. 00:09:13
Um, hourly parking, et cetera, to make sure the cars aren't parked. We, we did have an issue is that those roads were just 00:09:18
finished of. 00:09:21
People taking old cars and parking and leaving them there and. 00:09:24
You know, since now we're. 00:09:27
You know, more focused on. 00:09:29
Making sure that's not happening is the other thing we don't want to do is create a habit today. 00:09:31
And then in a couple of years when we started absorbing to then try to restrict that. I think it's important that we're. 00:09:36
We in the communities to the South. 00:09:41
Or having that understanding at the same time right now like this is how this is going to work moving forward. 00:09:44
So that's our plan and vision for. 00:09:49
For the downtown parking and I'm happy to answer other questions. I've got other material or other things we can go through but. 00:09:52
That's just kind of the overarching. 00:09:58
Parking idea from our perspective there. 00:10:00
So questions Council, do you have any questions? 00:10:04
Sorry, I'm squeaking microphone. 00:10:09
No, it looks good. Did you say you've already started building the grocery store? 00:10:12
Yeah, so, so peers are in the grocery store. Yeah, peers are in. 00:10:16
Underground Piers. 00:10:21
Yeah, so. 00:10:24
So. 00:10:26
The peers have gone in the areas where the footings and foundations will go. The footings and foundation will start in January. 00:10:27
And then we'll build that building as fast as we possibly can, so. 00:10:34
We're hoping that it's a. 00:10:38
Short, concise build and our contractor knows that. 00:10:41
They're under a lot of pressure to get that done. There's a lot of people that want to buy groceries. 00:10:45
We're as anxious as anyone to get it open, so I actually spoke with someone at a local grocery store across the freeway and they 00:10:50
are excited for you to have this because they feel like they're too busy. Oh wow, so that's great. Let's get that in writing. I 00:10:55
know, right? 00:10:59
Notice I didn't say anything. Yeah. 00:11:06
A question that that came up during our parking discussion was the parking was restricted on Main Street and. 00:11:09
The the Transit Rd. And so, you know, and just talking kind of internally. 00:11:16
Like our feelings are as you. 00:11:22
Continue to build it out and it's going to be probably your best interest to keep those route restricted. 00:11:25
As opposed to allowing people back on you're in the middle of destruction. We've had the issues where the more like. 00:11:30
Like extra spots that you have open, then we start to see occupancy go back up. So allow allowing kind of the current parking 00:11:36
regulations to take effect and to mature. 00:11:41
Can you tell us about your thoughts on that and just interim use of that street? Yeah, great insight. There won't ever be parking 00:11:46
on Main Street. This will be similar to what you have on the South will be two lanes of. 00:11:52
Two lanes of. 00:11:58
Traffic in either direction and bike lane on the side. So no, no long term parking along Main St. 00:12:00
And then the other thing we're working on right now is we're working with UTA. This stop is a lot busier than they had anticipated 00:12:08
being. We started with 300, temporary 300 and change, I believe temporary stalls. 00:12:14
They're really excited about how. 00:12:20
How much this train station is actually being used? 00:12:22
Considering you know, we haven't done anything on next to the platform. 00:12:24
So working closely with them, their parking will end up in a shared structure with us. 00:12:29
So people will be able to come. 00:12:35
Use the park and ride during the day and then evening. Can be used for residential. 00:12:37
Residential residents that live in the community and will share the cost of that and it'll be monitored that, you know, obviously 00:12:43
you can't just come and park a car and leave it there for four or five days, which is. 00:12:48
What they're kind of having there, and I think part of the part of the answer to there is. 00:12:53
I think UTA isn't isn't really. 00:12:58
Policing their parking as as much as they maybe are in other areas. 00:13:00
So they've communicated that they're interested in kind of making sure that. 00:13:05
Their parking also, people are bringing, you know, old cars and parking in there and leaving them there forever. So that's 00:13:09
something they're looking at as well. So have you started working with an actual? 00:13:14
Or I guess it's a two-part question, Are you working with a parking study group or just the management company? Yeah, Yeah, good 00:13:19
question. We've narrowed it down to like two or three that we would recommend. Obviously, we're going to jointly, the study will 00:13:24
be done by a group that we jointly agree upon. 00:13:29
But we want, we want the group to be. 00:13:35
A legitimate national parking firm that does this in a lot of different places, so it's not just somebody that doesn't know what. 00:13:38
You know what the studies should be. 00:13:47
And what the parameters are of that so? 00:13:50
Yeah. So we haven't. 00:13:53
We still have a little bit of time that will be probably about a year before we need to really start digging into starting that 00:13:54
study if either, because the other thing is either of us are allowed to request that. 00:14:00
And we may just open and you're going to see 1800 stalls and you're like, OK, well we could do this, but it's really not going to 00:14:05
tell us anything because. 00:14:08
We really aren't going to know anything about parking here until we've got a lot more units, until we have a lot more mixed-use, 00:14:11
until the promenade is going and everything else right now we're going to show. 00:14:16
There's going to be ample parking and it's going to be something overtime that we're going to have to, which is why we both wanted 00:14:20
this request in the code so that. 00:14:24
We don't want to go out here and build what we think is going to be a couple $100 million of too much parking. 00:14:28
And you guys want to make sure that we have enough parking. So it was. 00:14:33
That was a joint agreement there and we're really. 00:14:37
Committed to making sure that there's enough parking here. 00:14:41
I don't know if 500 is the right number. We'll come back and talk about that because once again, that's it. Either of our 00:14:44
requests. If we come back in a year and you're like, no, you know what, we want this study. We're happy to do this study. 00:14:49
If you're like there's 1800 paved stalls here and you only have 400 units open and 75 of them are occupied, maybe we ought to. 00:14:55
Change in weight and do that at 1000 versus 500 because right now the parameters are 515 hundred et cetera, but. 00:15:02
That's up to. 00:15:08
Either of us working together on that. So you said right now you have 3 paint lots. So yeah, there's, there's yeah, there's three 00:15:10
paved lots and then well, actually. 00:15:15
I think there's four pavements, there's two, there's 1800 and. 00:15:20
Just over 18 months for those four, OK. 00:15:26
OK, which also taking a step back, the code does require what we feel like right now. 00:15:28
More than enough parking. 00:15:35
And so when we come in for a building permit and build these buildings, we have to make sure staff doesn't. 00:15:37
And the Commission doesn't allow us to start these projects. 00:15:42
Unless we have. 00:15:45
The required amount of stalls in that plant. So it's not like we're out here saying, oh, we're going to just build whatever we 00:15:47
want and then we're going to do the study. 00:15:51
There is a required amount of parking. 00:15:55
We're well above what is currently in the code and think it's going to be. 00:15:57
More than enough. And we actually think as the studies go on, they're going to show that we need less parking than what's 00:16:01
currently in the code. 00:16:04
Perfect. 00:16:08
Council, do you have any other questions? 00:16:09
No, I think it's really smart. 00:16:12
When Cass explained it to me, I think that's a it's a great move for the downtown to just. 00:16:14
Of that study continually. Well for you too, right, yeah. 00:16:19
Yeah, for both of us. 00:16:23
OK. And then public, I'd be willing to let a couple people just if you want to spend a couple minutes if anyone has any questions? 00:16:24
Since we have. 00:16:31
Developers Daria. 00:16:32
Please make sure to come to the podium and state your name. 00:16:33
Daria Evans, Vineyard Villa's resident. 00:16:42
OK. I just have a couple questions. 00:16:46
About umm. 00:16:49
When you were talking about UTA being a shared parking structure. 00:16:54
How will the people who use UTA for the airport be taken care of? 00:17:00
You know there will be the overnight. 00:17:07
OK, OK. 00:17:09
OK, we'll do that. And then you say you just you have. 00:17:10
1800 parking spots. 00:17:14
Coming on in these 4 parking lots but you have 1886 units coming in. 00:17:16
Although that doesn't include the the other. Oh, will you come to the mic? Keep asking the questions, Daria. We'll take notes and 00:17:21
then they can answer all them. Those were my 2. So you said 1800 units versus you said 1800. 00:17:27
Those four. 00:17:34
Structure. Oh my gosh, where'd it go? 00:17:36
Blocks. 00:17:40
Yeah, Block 568A1413C13B and 18C. That comes to 1886. 00:17:42
Thank you. Thank you. Does anyone else have you know? Let's see if anyone else has questions and then we can answer them all at 00:17:51
once. 00:17:54
Anyone else? 00:17:59
OK, go ahead. 00:18:00
So airport so there will be stalls for people that want to park over. 00:18:03
Overnight there, it'll just be on a. 00:18:06
On AI, don't know how UTA will manage that but they do that in other places as well that they don't. 00:18:08
Right right now, as soon as the one of the. 00:18:14
Facilities for UTA stop has enough stalls. 00:18:18
They just have a pretty simple system where you call in. 00:18:21
You let him know that you're going to be parking there overnight or for a few days. 00:18:25
They give you you give them your license plate and they don't give you a ticket the next time. 00:18:29
So as it's shared, they'll probably have, I don't know, 10 or 15 extra stalls that they'll have for 24 hours and not be shared as 00:18:33
part of the 8 or 900 stalls that are shared. 00:18:38
From a unit perspective, so that's I'm really glad you brought that up because this is only on like the 800 and change units that 00:18:43
are currently under construction. 00:18:47
So it's not for the other blocks that are not yet in and permitted yet, so. 00:18:52
Good question and. 00:18:57
Good eye, perfect. 00:18:58
OK. Well, thank you so much for coming. We really appreciate it. We are going to be continually working on our parking 00:19:00
discussions. 00:19:04
And hopefully have some. 00:19:08
Some progress on everything. 00:19:11
I would just like to leave a comment that. 00:19:13
You know, in the parking meeting we had with. 00:19:16
Residents, we pause and. 00:19:20
So that every development has had a study in. 00:19:22
Everyone kind of had a consensus that. 00:19:24
Every study was failed. So my concern is that again, we're leaning on let's not build it until we do a study. 00:19:27
And then someone in. 00:19:34
That doesn't live in this community is going to do a equation on the amount. 00:19:35
And one of the things that came out from the citizens is instead of studying something in the future, why not? 00:19:40
Study something of actual houses that are here. 00:19:45
And their youth and going off of that number instead of a pie in the sky. 00:19:49
We think people will live this way instead of. 00:19:53
Surveying our residents as to how much parking they wish they would have had. 00:19:57
You know, thank you, Jake. I was just watching Orem City Council and Mayor Young was actually just talking about how. 00:20:01
You can plan, you can plan, but then as you start to see people's habits and. 00:20:07
Changes. 00:20:12
He he talked about how he has an apartment complex or a townhome. 00:20:13
Complex near him and how it's. 00:20:17
Gradually grown and developed and changed. And so that's I think one benefit to our continual study. As things grow and change in 00:20:18
Utah City, it'd be great to have those continual cities. 00:20:23
Thank you for your comment. I just want to go on the record that I disagree with that, but yeah, thanks. 00:20:28
Oh yeah, you're welcome TP. 00:20:33
So, I mean, I think that I think the sorry, Pete Evans. 00:20:35
I think the logic of what you're saying is exactly what's. 00:20:38
Codified in the code. 00:20:41
So when we say we're going to do a study with 500 units every 500 units. 00:20:43
That's so that we can get actual data. 00:20:48
And true up. 00:20:50
With what's really happening. 00:20:51
And the way the parking is really being used, so. 00:20:53
There is there is a baseline in the code right now. 00:20:56
We think that that baseline is set too high. 00:20:59
The city's parking. Sorry, too much parking, but our city has too much parking. 00:21:02
That we think that we think that the downtown area. 00:21:08
Parking code is over parked. 00:21:11
For the uses. 00:21:13
So the mechanism was. 00:21:14
The City Council was uncomfortable. 00:21:16
Going off of the recommendations of the parking consultants. 00:21:19
That we brought in. 00:21:23
They said look if you're right. 00:21:25
Let's look at this after 500 units. 00:21:26
And on 500 unit increments. 00:21:29
If you're right and there's a bunch of empty parking spaces, then we'll readjust it. 00:21:31
If there's not enough and we're under parked. 00:21:35
And we'll adjust it up. 00:21:38
So that we have this true up mechanism as we go forward. 00:21:40
To make sure that there's the appropriate amount of parking. 00:21:43
OK, right, because they're getting real time data, they're not projecting what's coming. 00:21:46
It's after every five. Yeah, that's right. And that's why Nate was saying that. 00:21:52
It may be, you know, even though we have 500 / 500 units permitted. 00:21:56
That's not That shouldn't trigger a parking study. We should wait until. 00:22:02
We have 500 units occupied. 00:22:06
So that we can see how many. 00:22:08
Spaces those people are actually using. 00:22:11
So as we move forward. 00:22:13
We're allocating and planning for appropriate parking amounts. 00:22:15
Or an ex development brought up the same frustration because they feel like they're over parked in areas. 00:22:20
And then Megaplex is under parked and so this this gives you like it really is a brilliant plan. 00:22:25
Because it gives it gives the city real time data. What? 00:22:30
Who's moving in? How many parking stalls they're using like. 00:22:34
What's happening? 00:22:37
Well, and there there are different intricacies too with mixed-use developments where? 00:22:38
You have people that are living and working and playing. 00:22:43
And shopping. 00:22:47
And there's all of those different things have different parking requirements. Some of them will overlap. 00:22:48
And you can share the parking, but it's not 100% overlap. 00:22:53
So we. 00:22:57
Like Nate said, no one is more interested in making sure that the parking here works than we are. 00:22:58
Because it's critical to the success of the community, all the aspects of the community. 00:23:03
And so that's why I think that. 00:23:09
The true this. 00:23:12
Constant evaluation mechanism. 00:23:13
Was a really good way to see what's happening in real time and when we open. 00:23:15
Retail down there, that may change. 00:23:19
How the parking is used and we may have to reevaluate that a little bit. 00:23:21
If the office market comes back, which it will, we just don't know when. 00:23:24
But when the office market comes back and we can. 00:23:28
Cross Park, you know that with residential, that's going to change. 00:23:31
The amount of parking that we need and we'll be able to chew that up so I. 00:23:35
I think the mechanism that's in place is the right mechanism to be able to balance this overtime. 00:23:38
Great. Thank you so much. 00:23:43
OK, that moves us into our public comment period. 00:23:45
If you wish to speak, please keep it too. We're going to go with three minutes. 00:23:51
Please come to this podium. State your name and state where you live. How many people are planning on speaking? 00:23:57
OK, go ahead. 00:24:03
Are you keeping the timer Pam? 00:24:08
Yes, please. 00:24:11
Sorry, switch it up on. 00:24:12
Karen Cornelius Bose. 00:24:17
I'm just here tonight to give a shout out to. 00:24:19
Our sheriff and Nasim. 00:24:24
We had a problem last last week in front of our villas clubhouse when we were preparing to. 00:24:27
Have our Christmas our annual Christmas party. 00:24:33
And my husband called Sheriff Rockwell and. 00:24:36
Shared with him that we would love to have these utility vehicles moved. 00:24:39
And it was done and Nassim showed up about 4:30 and said they're gone. 00:24:43
We shared some cookies with him. 00:24:48
And then we shared the good news with the residents. 00:24:50
And you all got a huge applause. So thank you very much for your tenderness to that. 00:24:54
Thank you so much. 00:25:00
Thank you, Ken. 00:25:10
Daria Evansville's resident I2 Just want to. 00:25:13
Give Naseem and Lieutenant Rockwell the kudos for getting that done. 00:25:17
And also Brian Vaudrey. 00:25:21
And Zach. I can't remember Zach's last name. 00:25:24
Baby, they came to our village clubhouse and gave the senior residents. 00:25:27
Of a couple different communities. 00:25:32
The opportunity to learn about the recreational opportunities for us as senior residents and we participate in surveys. 00:25:35
And I hope that we've received good feedback and I just want to say thank you to them. 00:25:44
For reaching out and that we could accommodate them, it was a great opportunity. 00:25:49
For us as well as residents to share our community clubhouse with other people. 00:25:55
And I think I. 00:26:00
Wanted someone wanted to move in so. 00:26:02
But thank you, it was good. 00:26:07
Awesome. Thank you so much. Does anyone else want to come to the microphone? 00:26:09
OK. And that will move us to, we'll go ahead and do our reports at the end. 00:26:14
And that'll move us to consent. 00:26:21
If anyone has a consent item that we want to discuss, please let us know and we can pull it off the consent items. Otherwise I 00:26:24
just need a motion to approve. 00:26:28
I make a motion to approve. 00:26:40
Consent items. 00:26:44
Let's see, I gotta read them out, right? 00:26:47
Oh, I moved to approve and adopted consent item as presented. 00:26:52
OK, so. 00:26:56
It needs to be done by roll call. 00:26:58
Oh sorry, Jake has the 1st. 00:27:00
Can I get a second? 00:27:03
Second, all right. And this is done by roll call Sarah. So take first, Sarah second. 00:27:05
All right, Sarah. 00:27:11
I mean, yay. 00:27:13
And Brett? 00:27:15
And **** hi. 00:27:17
All right, that was passed. 00:27:19
OK. Now we move forward, we have, we'll move to our business items. 00:27:23
Discussing discussion and action 9.1. 00:27:28
We're going to go ahead and turn the time over to. 00:27:32
Let's see, do I turn it on to onward or do I turn it to one of the staff? 00:27:36
Natalie. 00:27:41
And onward. 00:27:42
August. 00:27:55
And then? 00:27:59
Yeah. 00:28:10
Perfect. 00:28:51
Awesome. OK. 00:29:00
So, um. 00:29:02
I last time I talked about the RFP and that we were in the process of doing the RFP. 00:29:04
I'm super excited to say that we found a company that is. 00:29:09
Umm, how do I? 00:29:14
There we go. 00:29:18
So what a lot of the criteria that we actually had? 00:29:21
Was so specifically a lot of the companies that. 00:29:24
So the average contract amount from proposals received was 107,000. 00:29:28
And there were a lot of different. 00:29:32
Criteria that we so we specifically gave you 7 main items and then of those. 00:29:35
It was broken out into 32 different items. 00:29:41
And. 00:29:44
We had a lot of good companies that. 00:29:45
Proposed and the The main reason that we chose Onward was because not only were they the most affordable overall, but they 00:29:47
included every single thing that we needed. 00:29:52
And not only did they include everything that we needed, but the price. 00:29:58
Is not to exceed 90,000 which to kind of give that into a little bit perspective, it is a better price than what we are currently 00:30:03
paying and it is also. 00:30:07
For more than what we currently have and that. 00:30:13
Our evaluation committee unanimously agreed we all were of accordance that this is not only going to be the best for the city, it 00:30:20
met all of our. 00:30:24
City standards of I had interviewed all of. 00:30:28
The head of staff and it met all of their desires, but then also umm. 00:30:32
Met state standards, so I'm going to let them introduce themselves in a little bit of the plan that we have going forward. 00:30:38
So this is Chad and Jim. 00:30:46
Alright, thank you. 00:30:50
Thank you. I appreciate that. 00:30:51
Acknowledgement there. 00:30:55
What's that? Oh, sorry, my name is Chad Davis. 00:30:56
Part of the leadership team with the Onward technology. We're a company based out of Draper. 00:31:00
And. 00:31:05
The majority of a lot of our clients are in the. 00:31:06
Public education sector and. 00:31:11
Security is something that we do. 00:31:14
That is core to. 00:31:16
The services that we provide. 00:31:17
So I think just real quick, I put, I put together a slide deck. I didn't know how. 00:31:21
Who didn't know how deep you all wanted to go down this rabbit hole? So I think I'll probably just summarize. 00:31:26
In that. 00:31:31
Coming into. 00:31:33
Be your IT services provider. 00:31:34
We've got a set. 00:31:37
List of protocols, policies and procedures that we're going to. 00:31:38
Put in place specifically to combat. 00:31:43
Security breaches and justice up time for people working on the network. 00:31:47
Overall, whether they're. 00:31:51
Connected wirelessly or? 00:31:52
You know, hardwired and so that the people can do their jobs and they can do it without worry of. 00:31:54
You know, threat so. 00:32:02
2024 This slide here is just a. 00:32:04
Just to kind of put into perspective that we've seen a major uptick in. 00:32:08
Just cybercrime across the board. 00:32:14
And the average payout if you're? 00:32:17
Especially like a municipal municipality and you're affected. The average payout right now is. 00:32:20
Increased to about two and a half million, but we see that on the low end it's going to be. 00:32:26
Right around a million if there's. 00:32:30
If you have to go that route, so we put. 00:32:32
Policies and procedures, like I said in place that. 00:32:35
Backups upon backups upon backups that keep. 00:32:39
Keep your. 00:32:43
City data safe and. 00:32:44
You know, knock on wood, free from harm, so. 00:32:49
That's how do I just. 00:32:52
You can press enter or the yeah, and I don't know how much, so we left. 00:32:55
There's like I brought in like 616 slides but the. 00:33:00
But the bottom line is that we've got, we've got a bunch of controls that we're going to put in place. The state has provided. 00:33:03
The state has provided. 00:33:11
Some IT security pieces that we're also going to put in place from. 00:33:15
From a nationwide provider. 00:33:20
That's not that that's being given to the city as part of a state contract thing. I'm not sure I understand that. I just know it's 00:33:22
not. 00:33:25
Being paid for like through us or anything like that. We're just implementing it. 00:33:29
And just run through this. 00:33:33
Pretty quick. One of the things we're going to introduce right off the bat is strong passwords specifically. 00:33:37
With the password manager and I don't know honestly how many of this. 00:33:43
These we want to get through. 00:33:47
Because you know, you know. 00:33:49
Everybody's probably got families to go home too, so. 00:33:51
I I think you can. 00:33:55
Use your discretion, but we like information here, so oh perfect, perfect. 00:33:57
So this isn't all inclusive. I took maybe like our top ten and added a few like. 00:34:01
Bonus options, but umm. 00:34:07
Every company does this a little bit differently. We prefer a password manager part of the. 00:34:09
Proposal that that we've given your team is that. 00:34:14
Is that we implement password manager, that's part of that cost. 00:34:18
Not to exceed 90K. 00:34:21
Microsoft's best practice on passwords now is that they're. 00:34:25
Super strong that they don't rotate a whole lot so that you know what they are. 00:34:29
The use of a password manager is nice because you just have to remember 1 password and then it takes care of. 00:34:32
You logging into your multiple websites. 00:34:37
Multi factor authentication. This is probably something that is. 00:34:41
Hopefully not new to you guys, but we're going to enforce this across. 00:34:45
Any city data usage when you're? 00:34:49
On the network A2 factor key will. 00:34:52
It'll require your phone to log into. 00:34:56
Log into the network. 00:35:01
Or access data. 00:35:02
Actively managed firewalls. 00:35:05
We're in the process. We're right now in the process of doing discovery. So we know that there's one location. 00:35:08
That we're going to be replacing hardware at. 00:35:13
Long term is and I don't know how fast it's going to happen, but long term the other the other. 00:35:16
Two locations that have firewalls at them. 00:35:20
Will eventually get you unified onto the platform. 00:35:23
That, uh. 00:35:26
That we service and that we recommend primarily. 00:35:28
Security awareness training is something that is another thing that the state is providing which. 00:35:32
We're familiar with, we're in know before partner. 00:35:38
And so we'll be implementing that, but basically what that is, is it's. 00:35:41
Training for personnel that are on the network to help them identify when they're being. 00:35:45
Fished if you're not sure what. 00:35:50
Fishing is it's just when bad actors are trying to get you to do. 00:35:53
Things through e-mail that aren't good? 00:35:57
Data integrity so. 00:35:59
Security awareness training will be implemented. 00:36:01
Endpoint protection. 00:36:04
One of the things that the state's providing is Sentinel one. 00:36:07
It's a very robust. 00:36:10
Suite of tools that. 00:36:12
Will be deployed against the network to help. 00:36:15
You know that actor's not get access to him. 00:36:18
One of the one of the things that we do when we're onboarding. 00:36:21
When we're onboarding new clients as we have a set of security protocols that we put in place. 00:36:24
And those are things like network segmentation. 00:36:30
And making it so that there's no one. 00:36:34
One way that you can access the network to get to all of the data. 00:36:38
Sentinel 1 is just an overlay to. 00:36:42
Some of the base core. 00:36:44
Security measures that we're putting in place. 00:36:47
Automated patching so you don't have to worry about is my Windows security up to date or if things like. 00:36:51
You know Adobe Acrobat, you know your servers. 00:36:58
Having that automated and not. 00:37:03
Not at the behest of like end users to try to take care of. 00:37:07
Is one of the best practices. 00:37:10
Advanced e-mail protection Sentinel Sentinel one's got a very robust. Like I said, part of that package is an additional layer of 00:37:14
e-mail protection. So they're looking for. 00:37:19
They're looking for stuff like fish prevention. 00:37:25
Attachment inspection and they'll sandbox things that they don't recognize and they're they're people. 00:37:29
Look at that stuff before it's actually sent on to you. 00:37:35
So they do a good job physical security, this one. 00:37:38
Gets overlooked a lot, but we'll. 00:37:42
We'll make recommendations for what we think. 00:37:44
The city needs to do as far as. 00:37:47
Locking down the data that they control from a physical standpoint. 00:37:50
We will make recommendations, I'm sure that I'm sure the city's, you know, covered on cyber insurance. 00:37:56
That's pretty, pretty standard these days, but we'll. 00:38:02
Look at that and make recommendations. 00:38:05
Content filtering. 00:38:07
Part of our recommendation is that. 00:38:09
Is that the? 00:38:11
Leadership for the city controls what can be seen or can't be seen. 00:38:14
Specifically on the network. 00:38:18
So I think you can probably think of. 00:38:20
There's plenty of stuff that city employees shouldn't be. 00:38:23
You know, perusing while they're on. 00:38:26
The city network. 00:38:29
Will help you control what can or can't be seen. 00:38:30
And that's a. 00:38:33
Part of what we're bringing to the table. 00:38:34
There's AI added just a couple of bonus options here about. 00:38:36
How we're going to configure VPN S or? 00:38:41
When you're off site and need to connect back into. 00:38:43
The the city network. 00:38:47
How that happens in a secure way? 00:38:49
And then at the end of the day, we've got a very. 00:38:52
Very robust backup strategy that we will put into place so that the. 00:38:56
Data that's being. 00:39:02
Housed on city servers. 00:39:05
Is backed up with enough revisions to. 00:39:07
If you know if the worst thing was to happen and there was a major breach or major failure that we could restore that data versus 00:39:11
having to pay. 00:39:15
Pay a bad actor, so backups are our great. 00:39:20
Our our our greatest backup to that happening. 00:39:24
And then on a bad day. 00:39:29
I just this is just a little anecdote that. 00:39:31
You know pilots don't expect a multi engine flame out. 00:39:34
But they're always prepared for if it'll happen. We're going to help your people from a policy standpoint. 00:39:37
Understand that if there is a breach or if there is something bad to happens. 00:39:43
What they need to do in that event? Who they need to call? 00:39:48
And who's responsible for? 00:39:51
Taking those activities and. 00:39:54
Part of our standard. 00:39:56
Part of our standard service offering and. 00:39:58
I'll leave it at that. Any questions? 00:40:01
Council, do we have any questions? 00:40:03
I saw different. 00:40:08
I like the requirement for a password manager. 00:40:10
Is there a preference? I know you had more than one listed up there. Yeah, we prefer bit Warden. 00:40:12
Just from ease of use and management. 00:40:18
OK. Jake, do you have any questions? 00:40:23
All right. Thank you so much, Chad. Yeah, I appreciate you guys having us. Thank you. Thank you. 00:40:27
OK. 00:40:35
I guess if we don't have any questions, we just need to. 00:40:38
Have a vote? 00:40:42
To adopt the resolution. 00:40:44
That's perfect. 00:40:46
Bless you. 00:40:48
I move to adopt resolution 2024-30AS presented. 00:40:51
All right. We have a 1st vice, Sarah, do I have a second? 00:40:56
2nd a second by Brett. 00:41:00
And this is a resolution, so it's a roll call. 00:41:03
Jake No. 00:41:07
OK, Brett. 00:41:10
I mean that I what do I say? 00:41:12
Perfect. It passes. Thank you so much. OK, now, Councilwoman. 00:41:18
If I may just one second, this is a point of clarification on the parking discussion that we recently have. 00:41:23
They did mention that there was not parking on Main Street. 00:41:31
We chatted for a quick minute and he wanted us to clarify. 00:41:34
South of the square, about the Civic square. If you remember you have a civic square, the South leg of Main Street won't have 00:41:39
parking. 00:41:42
But that kind of offsets and then it goes N that they'll they'll be street parking built into the street. OK, Yeah. Thank you for 00:41:46
the clarification. That's good. I also wanted to make a clarification because they have the lowest parking requirements. 00:41:53
Than anywhere else in the city. 00:42:00
Is there any? 00:42:06
Yeah, I'd probably have to look that up to make sure. Yeah, we can, we can provide you that information. I mean, we have to go to 00:42:09
each of the districts and look at them. 00:42:13
Yeah, he was saying that it was high and I was like it. 00:42:18
Even at what it is, it's the lowest and it's not close. 00:42:21
So I just want to make sure that's part of the record where he's asking for even less than the problems that we're facing. 00:42:25
OK. Thank you, Morgan. 00:42:31
All right, so we are going to move into another public hearing 9.2. Can I have a motion to do so? 00:42:33
We need to move into a public hearing. I make a motion to open up the hearing. 00:42:45
Perfect at first by Jake. Can I get a second? 00:42:49
Second, Sarah has a second all in favor. 00:42:52
Aye, aye. 00:42:55
Aye, all right. We're in a public hearing. 00:42:58
We're going to go ahead and turn the time over to Eric. 00:43:01
Thank you. 00:43:05
Before us, we have. 00:43:07
The adoption of an ordinance for a salary increase. This is for our finance director. 00:43:09
As part of the initial offer. 00:43:14
We had included an option for her to complete a certification. 00:43:16
That typically takes a couple of years, and she has. 00:43:22
Muscle through that certification. 00:43:25
And is will plans to have that completed here in the next week or two. 00:43:27
After she takes her final Test on that. 00:43:32
And so we just wanted to approve that. 00:43:35
Because in the last year. 00:43:37
There was a requirement that director level staff. 00:43:39
Compensation adjustments be heard in a public setting like this is marvelously. 00:43:44
Uncomfortable as it is for her. 00:43:49
Or anyone. 00:43:52
And so we're presenting that before you. It adds a. 00:43:54
An amount that's on your packet. 00:43:57
To her salary. 00:44:01
Forward and that would become. 00:44:03
Effective upon that successful completion of her final exam. 00:44:05
Awesome. And the public, do we have any questions or comments? 00:44:10
All right. Can I get a motion to move out of the public hearing? 00:44:17
I make a motion to move our public hearing. All right, first by Jake. Can I get a second? 00:44:21
2nd umm. 00:44:26
Second by Sarah, all in favor. 00:44:27
Aye, aye, aye. 00:44:30
All right, Council, do you have any questions or discussions or do I have a motion? 00:44:32
Well, congratulations. 00:44:43
Well done. 00:44:45
That's great. 00:44:48
All right, if we have no questions or discussion, can I get a motion? I, I can make a comment. I, I vote a lot of things. No, I'm, 00:44:50
I'm kind of a Grinch most times, but on this one I wouldn't be because I'm very grateful for everything that you're doing and 00:44:55
you've done a wonderful job and it's well deserved. 00:45:00
Thank you for everything that you're doing. 00:45:06
I hope you know that's coming from me. 00:45:08
It's great. 00:45:13
My wife hates that I'm a sailor. She. 00:45:17
I move to adopt resolution 2024-36AS presented. 00:45:21
Wait, is it 17? Sorry. 00:45:26
I think you're the wrong one. 00:45:29
I was being so brave. You were going. I'm OK. I moved to adopt ordinance. 00:45:34
2024 Dash 17. 00:45:39
Approving the recommended salary increase for the Finance Director as presented. 00:45:42
And after successful completion of the Government Finance Officers Association certification program. 00:45:47
Awesome, we got a first by Sarah. Can I get a second? 00:45:54
2nd. 00:45:59
So I can't buy Brett. 00:46:00
All right. And this will be done by Wilco. 00:46:03
All right, Sarah. 00:46:06
Hi. Hi, Brett, Hi. 00:46:08
I'm Jake. Hi. 00:46:11
All right, it passed. 00:46:13
All right, that moves us to our. 00:46:16
Our next item it's 9.3. 00:46:20
The interlocal agreement. 00:46:23
Regarding activities related to the formation of the reorganized new school district serving residents of the city's of Linden, 00:46:24
Orem, Pleasant Grove and Vineyard, commonly known. 00:46:29
As uh. 00:46:35
Love PG Linden Orem Vineyard PG. So love PG. There's a lot of love going that one. 00:46:36
And I'll turn the time to Jamie. 00:46:42
Thank you, we love TT. 00:46:45
I I haven't heard that. 00:46:48
I'm not sure how to respond. 00:46:50
I'll leave it at that. 00:46:54
The Thank you for the time to go through this there. As you all can imagine, since the election there has been a lot of activity 00:46:56
around the. 00:47:01
School district separation and formation and so. 00:47:07
I'm gonna err on the side of giving a little bit more background than probably what's required here, just to Orient everybody to 00:47:10
the issues. 00:47:13
And to why we have to do this and then what we have worked with the other cities. 00:47:17
To develop. 00:47:23
On this ILA and then I can give you a promise that this will not be the last time you see. 00:47:25
This document or school district formation issues. 00:47:31
Come up on the agenda. So by way of background, just to set the table. 00:47:34
There were two groups of cities within the Alpine School District boundaries that had. 00:47:40
Petitions. 00:47:45
That went to a vote. 00:47:47
And where the voters? 00:47:48
Voted to separate those areas from the Alpine School District. 00:47:51
One of those was on the western part of their. 00:47:56
Boundaries. This is the Saratoga Springs Eagle Mountain area. 00:48:01
And then the other separation was in the eastern part of the areas that they serve. 00:48:05
And that was the Highland Alpine. 00:48:10
Area there were. 00:48:15
More than just those cities in those groups that were separated, but what was left remaining were the four. 00:48:17
Cities that are contiguous to Vineyard. 00:48:22
And that's your love, PGA. 00:48:25
City. So it was Pleasant Grove. 00:48:28
Linden, Orem and Vineyard. 00:48:30
The way the statute treats this, and I'll confess. 00:48:33
This statue is interesting because I think it contemplated a split of a school board but not a three-way separation. 00:48:37
And so we have. 00:48:44
A little bit of a unique. 00:48:46
Situation there to deal with and there are some things in the statute that. 00:48:47
Leave some room for interpretation. 00:48:51
But what the statute does very clearly state is that. 00:48:54
Those the geographic boundaries of those four cities and there are some other remaining areas within. 00:48:59
The school district, notably up Provo Canyon. 00:49:06
And then up into the Sundance area. 00:49:10
That will all become. 00:49:13
Of a. 00:49:14
Newly reorganized school district. I'm just going to call that our school district, right? That's the one Vineyard will be in. 00:49:17
And as a newly reorganized school district. 00:49:24
The we have to begin the process of setting the boundaries for that district. 00:49:28
And registering the district with the Lieutenant governor's office so that it can be recognized. 00:49:33
And then there are some steps. 00:49:39
The early part of next year where the Lieutenant governor's office and the county. 00:49:41
Will begin the process of. 00:49:46
Dividing that school district boundaries into. 00:49:48
Districts. 00:49:52
And I hate the word district being used twice. But what I mean by this other district is you create council seats. 00:49:54
For that school board and those council seats were organized by district, I'll say lowercase D districts. 00:50:01
And the lower case D districts will need to have boundaries that will eventually be set by the county. 00:50:08
So the cities have some. 00:50:14
Responsibility early on, just to make sure. 00:50:16
That we're following the statutory time frames. 00:50:20
For doing that paperwork and registering the newly organized district with the state. 00:50:23
So there are two deadlines coming up. 00:50:29
Within 30 days of the date the election certified. 00:50:32
The newly reorganized district has to register with the Lieutenant governor's office. That's December 19th. 00:50:36
And that's the reason for some urgency behind this interlocal agreement. 00:50:42
We've been holding meetings among. 00:50:47
The attor. 00:50:50
The city managers and the mayors of Linden, Orem, Vineyard and Pleasant Grove over. 00:50:51
Yeah. 00:51:01
Go ahead and. 00:51:04
We've been working as a group to figure out how to go about doing this. What we have received back from the Lieutenant governor's 00:51:06
office is that they require an interlocal agreement. 00:51:11
We don't want the interlocal agreement at this point to be really elaborate, have a lot of commitments, make a government entity. 00:51:17
Do all of the things that an ILA can do. 00:51:24
We want it to be as spare as it can be to accomplish the purpose we need to achieve. 00:51:27
And that's to register the new district. 00:51:32
With the Lieutenant governor's office. 00:51:35
We have to have the ILA in place and then we also have to create a plat. 00:51:37
This will be a little bit of a napkin drawing plat at the time being, but it's. 00:51:41
We have a surveyor engaged that will be updated as. 00:51:47
We get there, but for now we have to file a plat that has the rough. 00:51:50
Dimensions of not just our district, but the other two. 00:51:54
And those two documents both have to go have to be finalized by December 19. 00:51:58
So that's a long intro to what you have before you in the packet is. 00:52:03
An interlocal agreement between the four cities. 00:52:07
To create the PT. 00:52:11
Got you to say. 00:52:13
It might be the only time. 00:52:15
Well, after we signed up. 00:52:17
Anyway the the interlocal agreement? 00:52:19
Is the formal document that we will need to register. 00:52:22
The new district with the Lieutenant governor's office. 00:52:26
You will. 00:52:29
I expect in about. 00:52:31
A month's time or certainly by the end of January, we're aiming to. 00:52:33
Amend this ILA. 00:52:38
To include some other activities. 00:52:41
The cities may need to coordinate. 00:52:43
Well, let me back up a little bit. 00:52:46
There will there will come a time when Alpine School District creates an inventory of its assets and liabilities, files that 00:52:47
inventory with. 00:52:51
The state legislature. 00:52:56
Auditor General. 00:52:58
And then when the new school boards are formed. 00:53:00
And the school board members are elected. 00:53:04
They will be handed those lists and there will be a time where the three school districts will haggle over. 00:53:07
Who gets what? 00:53:14
We're trying not to view it as a divorce, but as. 00:53:15
Your children have grown up, they're moving out of the house and you're figuring out, you know, what they get to take with them. 00:53:19
And so. 00:53:25
In that process. 00:53:27
We need to make sure that our district is set up to succeed. 00:53:29
And so you may see another version of the Isla come forward where we're preparing. 00:53:33
To make sure that the four cities are on the same page and working together. 00:53:38
So that we can function well together. 00:53:43
As a new school district, but also. 00:53:46
So that if we have to. 00:53:49
Compete with the other school districts over assets and liabilities were in the best possible position to do that. 00:53:51
The goal at the end of the day, clearly. 00:53:57
Is to care for our students. 00:53:59
Right and make sure that they are putting the right position. 00:54:01
That the school district can serve them. 00:54:05
That they don't have the educational resources and everything that they need. 00:54:07
When they began studying. 00:54:12
We're a few years out from when they'll actually go to school at the new school district, but we're going to make sure they're in 00:54:14
a good situation for that. 00:54:17
I don't know that I need to go. 00:54:22
Kind of line by line in the ILA but. 00:54:23
What it does is authorizes the four cities to work together to make the filings with the Lieutenant governor's office. 00:54:25
It also authorizes them to do anything they may need to do related to that. 00:54:31
There always can be things that come up unexpectedly. We want to make sure that's cared for. 00:54:36
And then sometime in January, we expect a new version will come forward that we'll talk about. 00:54:41
How we're going to collaborate and work together. 00:54:46
Provide resources. Share resources. 00:54:49
To set the new school district up to succeed. 00:54:52
Awesome. Thank you. Jamie, does anyone have any questions? I I could report a little bit more on some of the meetings I've had? 00:54:55
Can I make one more clarification? I apologize to. 00:55:04
Look at you up on that. 00:55:07
One of one aspect of the ILA is. 00:55:09
Who represents the city? 00:55:11
And that, I think, is important to note. 00:55:13
The city will have 3 representatives with each of the four cities will have 3 representatives. 00:55:17
The mayor, the city manager and then one member of the City Council. 00:55:22
Marty has been Councilwoman, Sifuentes has been the representative from Vineyard on school board and school related issues. 00:55:26
And so the expectation is that she would continue in that role and she would be the Council representative. 00:55:35
OK. And then also just something of interest it. 00:55:41
Everyone might like to hear. 00:55:45
That were. 00:55:47
Is it still in this ula? Because I saw earlier and I'm having a hard time finding it now, but the temporary name is 10th and 00:55:49
August School District. I think that was pulled out just because we didn't want to presume OK, what it would be. The new school 00:55:54
board has the right to name itself OK and so. 00:55:59
So we're not saying love PG all the time. I think they're going to at some point we will establish a temporary name and then we 00:56:05
will, once our new school board is elected come November, then a lot of things will move forward with them and they'll. 00:56:11
They will get together and make a lot of decisions that. 00:56:18
We're hoping a city. 00:56:21
Well, I've met with several City Council members and. 00:56:23
And heard kind of from some of the mayors of our surrounding cities and the other school districts. 00:56:27
And I'm sorry, the other interlocals. 00:56:31
And most of the goals here are, just like Jamie said, to represent our cities well, to make sure that we're getting what we need. 00:56:35
Infrastructure wise and that our students will be taking care of, but we really would like to do. 00:56:43
We we really would like to leave as many decisions up to the new school board as possible. 00:56:48
And just kind of set them up for success and do what we need to do in preparation. So this is the first big step. 00:56:54
By creating this interlocal agreement. 00:57:00
I know Orem had this in front of them last night and approved it. 00:57:04
And they might. They actually have one little change, but. 00:57:07
They approved a slightly different version, so they will reconvene. 00:57:11
Think at their Christmas party. 00:57:16
So what was the difference in versions? 00:57:18
They they had worked ahead and were beginning to prepare some of the how would you contribute resources and how would you vote on. 00:57:21
Decisions that we need to make. 00:57:31
We all decided we wanted some time to work through that. 00:57:33
And that's why we. 00:57:37
Everybody wanted to get the ILA in place so we can do what statutorily required. 00:57:39
But have it be as stare as is necessary for that. 00:57:44
And then we'll bring an amendment forward to the four cities once we figure out the other issues and and the other issues. 00:57:48
They're simple when you think of it. 00:57:56
In terms of how do you divide the assets of the school? 00:57:59
Because an Alpine school district will create an inventory. 00:58:02
And then? 00:58:07
The three school districts will have to figure out who gets what. 00:58:09
And with the current school district, you have some facilities that are just within cities and I think the expectation is. 00:58:13
If a school building is located within a city, it will remain in the district that's within that city's boundaries. 00:58:21
Or does it correspond with that city's boundaries? 00:58:28
There are some shared resources that aren't that easy to divide. 00:58:31
They have transportation facilities. They have. 00:58:35
Technical education facilities and career education facilities that are shared but are located in one city. 00:58:38
And they have IT facilities and things like that. 00:58:47
That will be a little bit more complicated to divide. 00:58:50
And then all the assets aren't equal. You have new school buildings, you have older school buildings, they have different 00:58:53
maintenance needs. 00:58:56
And so some of the things we've talked about in this. 00:59:02
Is not decided exactly how we want to handle it. This group will have to sort through that, but. 00:59:06
It's what kinds of studies and financial information do you need to have in place. 00:59:11
So when the new school. 00:59:17
Board is elected. 00:59:20
You can hand it to them and have them be able to hit the ground running instead of having to create all that information on the 00:59:21
family. 00:59:24
Thank you, Jamie. 00:59:29
The. 00:59:31
So just like a couple notes, if you know anyone that would be a good school board representative, it'd be a great time to get 00:59:33
involved. This is a really big. 00:59:37
A big project that now. 00:59:41
They'll be working on and we'd love to have in your representation also in meeting with the cities and our new school district. 00:59:43
There's a lot of excitement to be working together, there's a lot of good positive attitudes and. 00:59:52
And then also in working with the other cities that are in their other. 00:59:58
Inter locals it's been pretty great. Were specifically watching and working on a. 01:00:02
Bill that's coming forward by Senator Keith Grover. He presented it in front of the. 01:00:08
Legislative body. 01:00:13
Last week or the week before. And so it's been very interesting because it will definitely have an effect on some of the details 01:00:15
of the split. 01:00:19
And so we've been working and studying that and hopefully we'll have some red lines to submit to Keith Grover, who's been really 01:00:23
great to work with so. 01:00:28
And Council, do you have any questions or discussion? Yeah. 01:00:33
I probably need to disclose again. I do this all the time. Conflict of interest I'm. 01:00:37
Alpine school districts auction service I work for public surplus have for. 01:00:43
17 years. 01:00:48
And I said this to Eric at our meeting, and I know you said you don't want to use the word divorce. 01:00:51
But it really is a divorce. 01:00:58
Having done the auction of many school districts, but probably 1500. 01:01:00
I mean, we do them every two weeks or so. 01:01:06
It's like having a baby sometimes and you're saying I'm going to split half and half and to describe it, it's like. 01:01:11
You're going to split the value of a building. 01:01:18
But there's some things that are in the building that are customized that are there that you sometimes someone wants, but 01:01:20
sometimes they don't want. 01:01:24
But then you have to recreate that, for example. I'm sure that. 01:01:29
The school district to the north doesn't want that massive of a building because they're not going to be using. 01:01:33
That large of a building. 01:01:39
Because it will use less, but so they'll get more value and so there's a lot of intricate conversations. 01:01:41
Thousands of them. 01:01:47
That will go. 01:01:49
We'll go into that and, umm. 01:01:52
So I just want to disclose that. 01:01:56
The second thing though, is umm. 01:01:58
To your point, I. 01:02:01
I know, you reiterate. 01:02:02
That Marty will be in the meeting. 01:02:05
And with the mayor and that. 01:02:08
Umm, with the public meeting minutes it doesn't allow. 01:02:10
Me to be there on that Monday meeting but. 01:02:16
On Monday. 01:02:19
The mayor wasn't there, right? 01:02:21
No, Eric and I attended the most recent meeting, so there's a lot of meetings that there is one and I'm still not being told of or 01:02:24
being included on. I I would have been happy to have you there. 01:02:30
I assume the mayor was coming. So that's something that you would just want to get in touch with her about her scheduling, right? 01:02:37
But we as a culture continue to and I have meetings with Eric. 01:02:41
And the mayor's there. 01:02:46
Mayor hasn't met with me for months, right? 01:02:47
But every time she assumes. 01:02:50
And then it's blocked. 01:02:52
And I know you were not for the split. 01:02:54
I was more of letting the citizens vote. So I come from a different perspective. Let me clarify. I actually thought a two way 01:02:58
split would have been a two. Yeah, and I was more 3. Just, I'm just saying, different. 01:03:03
I just don't want those that have a different perspective to continue to be blocked out because that was a very big meeting on 01:03:09
Monday. 01:03:12
I have many cities that call me right after. 01:03:16
Knowing that it's an hour long meeting, there's a lot of details that are there. 01:03:19
And I could probably assign somebody an advisor or somebody that. 01:03:22
Is not me that could be there that could listen into that perspective and I could understand. 01:03:26
Because that legislation, that is going to be. 01:03:31
Up on the Hill by Senator Grover. It was pretty controversial about like, should we do tons more? 01:03:34
I mean, I'm not in the meeting, so again, I don't, I don't know, but it's. 01:03:40
Should we do a lot of things? 01:03:43
Prior to the split? Or should we do after and what is that? 01:03:46
You know, legislative code, and so I just want to reiterate that. 01:03:49
I don't want to be left out. It's a, it's a passion thing I'd like to be able to have. 01:03:53
Even if it's not me. 01:03:57
I could assign somebody, this is my education person. Even if you and the mayor there, they could be at the meeting. 01:03:59
Well, I think that the specifically the culture of the. 01:04:05
The cities for the school board. 01:04:10
For the, sorry, all three interlocals, they want to actually cut it down. They don't like that there's so many people there. So I 01:04:13
don't think that they would really like the idea of having someone that's not associated as a city manager or a city 01:04:18
representative. 01:04:23
Being the mayor, they specifically are looking to only have one or two people from each city, including the city manager at this 01:04:28
next meeting on Monday. They want less. 01:04:32
Right. And I understand there's going to be certain meetings that are that way, that there's continual meetings that I get texts 01:04:37
and emails about saying I cannot believe that you're not there. 01:04:41
And I go wow. And there's other staff. So I mean, you're, you're welcome to. I think I get what you're saying, Jake, because 01:04:46
there's meetings that I'd like to go to too, but I'm not on the council assignment for those things. 01:04:52
I think 1 recommendation I would give you that would be a really good person to catch you up is maybe calling Julie King. 01:04:57
Because she's kind of led all of the. 01:05:04
Keith Grover, Bill Red Lines, and she has a lot of really good information. 01:05:07
And she would be a good asset. You could also call Ada. 01:05:12
And hear her opinion because she is our school board. Represent representation. 01:05:16
But personally just. 01:05:21
Just as, just as. 01:05:24
From my perspective. 01:05:27
Those meetings are really wonderful, but a lot of what I learned is making those phone calls after, just like you were talking 01:05:29
about your phone calls. 01:05:33
I learn a lot by actually having a one-on-one conversations to get. 01:05:37
Different perspectives than what they might just be presenting in that large group. 01:05:41
But yeah, Jake, I'm not kidding. I actually said the words. It would have been great to have Jake then because I know you wanted 01:05:44
to go, but I had to say that seat for the mayor so we can discuss that as it comes further. But. 01:05:50
Well, I hate to say anything about the mayor's not here, but because, but I also want to not deflect this on any of you and. 01:05:56
Cast any of you in bad light for me being over here, but. 01:06:03
If the argument is always, you must be. 01:06:07
In charge of that responsibility, Board or chair. 01:06:10
And again I. 01:06:13
2024 is going to end and I'm not on any of them, right? So it's hard to end the year of never being involved in a meeting, right? 01:06:15
But. 01:06:19
I don't want that culture to go into 2025. 01:06:24
And hear things late. 01:06:26
And then it. 01:06:29
I want to have good feelings of being able to be at the table right? 01:06:31
A couple things. 01:06:34
This will all change once we have our new form of government. So that'll be that'll be a. 01:06:36
A good solution for this issue. 01:06:42
But I think there's. 01:06:45
There's some other things that we could talk about maybe later if we wanted to put this on the agenda to talk about it as a group 01:06:46
with the mayor involved. 01:06:50
But I appreciate your comments. 01:06:54
I mean, we do hold the ability in the coming year. 01:06:56
Go ahead and move on now. Well, just I had one more question for Jim. We do have the ability to change city charter and code to 01:06:59
how? 01:07:03
Assignments are given. 01:07:07
With three a simple majority vote, right? 01:07:08
I don't know that I understand your question. 01:07:12
By code. That's just that. We voted to give that authority to the mayor, right? 01:07:23
Well, that's the case in. 01:07:29
You know, every city I'm aware of is the appointments are made by the mayor. You could. 01:07:31
Sure, you could make a change to your city code to handle it differently. So if the three of us said hey, we would like to. 01:07:36
I mean I'm getting paid 25,000 a year right? To do something? 01:07:43
I'd love to do. 01:07:46
I don't know, 19, whatever. 01:07:48
I didn't get the checks, whatever it is. 01:07:51
You know, whatever I get paid. 01:07:53
800 conversation for another meeting. That's not the agenda item. OK, But just look into the next year of ways we can. 01:07:56
And I can I can walk through how the representation works on this interlocal agreement. 01:08:05
You know, and how they're reporting that would be but. 01:08:11
The with an ILA you have to establish some kind of structure of how the different cities will interact. 01:08:13
Well, and I. 01:08:20
I appreciate that the ILA does involve a council member, Jake. It originally didn't involve a council member, so. 01:08:21
I think that we're setting up a really good form of communication here. 01:08:28
And. 01:08:32
I would agree with that. It's as many elected officials as you can have participate without it becoming. 01:08:34
De facto council meeting for each of the four entities. 01:08:41
It will allow you to get that work done. You're not contributing any resources right now beyond. 01:08:44
A commitment to share in the cost of creating a survey and I think sharing in the cost of the filing fee with the Lieutenant 01:08:51
governor's office is 25 bucks. You'll support four ways. 01:08:56
So I would say we should have offered to pay for it. So the surveyor will be a little more than $25.00, but not it's not a big 01:09:02
expenditure. 01:09:06
When you see the next version come forward, I. 01:09:10
What you'll see in it. 01:09:13
Will be if resources are contributed. How do you do that? 01:09:15
And. 01:09:19
That may need to be more than just a 1/4 split because the school, the different cities have different numbers of student 01:09:20
populations and taxpayers and everything else. 01:09:25
Perfect. Umm. 01:09:30
OK. So I think we can make a motion to approve this resolution if everyone is comfortable. 01:09:31
If I could just get the money. 01:09:39
All right, there's you'll need to put two things in the motion. One will be to approve the resolution authorizing the ILA. 01:09:41
The other would be naming Councilman C Fuentes to be the cities. 01:09:47
Council representative assigned to this. 01:09:52
I moved to adopt. Is that what I said? 01:09:59
I moved to adopt resolution 2436 as presented. 01:10:02
And with the council representative as. 01:10:07
Oh, where am I switched to that? 01:10:11
Just added in and as the Council representative, Councilman Sefuentes. 01:10:13
OK, so we have a first page 8. 01:10:19
Can I get a second? 01:10:22
Second, Second by Sarah. This is a resolution, so we will do it by roll call Sarah. 01:10:24
Aye, aye. 01:10:32
Aye, Jake, aye. 01:10:33
Perfect, the lesson passes. All right, so that takes us to. 01:10:35
Our mayor and council member reports. 01:10:41
And just as a reminder, this is not meant to be long discussions if there are things that we want to put on the agenda. 01:10:44
We can talk about those things, but. 01:10:51
Why don't we go ahead and start with you, Sir? 01:10:53
OK. 01:10:57
So usually when this comes, you know. 01:10:59
Every. 01:11:02
Every so many weeks so much has happened in my mind's just. 01:11:03
You know, goes blank. 01:11:07
Maybe it's the microphone, I don't know. 01:11:08
But I wanted to slow down a minute. 01:11:11
Because I blazed past my last one. 01:11:13
And I didn't acknowledge Brian for the excellent Blizzard race that happened. 01:11:16
He does such a good job on those 5K's and they're so well attended. 01:11:21
And everybody had fun and. 01:11:26
Yeah, so it was good and I got to hand out water and. 01:11:29
Yes. 01:11:33
So David and Jane ran. 01:11:34
Yeah, Anyway, is this a very cool thing? 01:11:37
And then I didn't say I whined about being the only council member at the Palooza table. 01:11:40
And I neglected the fact that Anna. 01:11:47
Supplied candy. She set up my booth. She brought me decorations. 01:11:49
Like we have such an amazing staff that just go overboard to make our city really special and really amazing. 01:11:54
And I wanted to make sure that I acknowledged you guys. 01:12:00
And Morgan, always. 01:12:04
Brings me my diet Doctor Pepper so I can stay awake. 01:12:06
Thank you very much. And then we had our. 01:12:11
Christmas party. 01:12:14
And Sullivan pulled me aside and introduced me to his staff. 01:12:20
And then Nassim pointed out his staff. 01:12:26
And they just sat and bragged about what excellent people they work with and how grateful they were and how hard they work. 01:12:28
To make our city amazing and I was so impressed. 01:12:35
Just a feeling of kindness and camaraderie and. 01:12:38
Of lifting each other up to do the best they can. 01:12:43
For our city. 01:12:46
I was just, I was humbled and I was impressed and I just. 01:12:48
Well done, all of you, really. 01:12:52
So. 01:12:55
It's been an interesting thing to sit in this seat. 01:12:57
I've said from the beginning I never wanted to do this. 01:13:01
To see the what happens behind the scenes is so impressive to me. 01:13:05
I just sit in my house and I. 01:13:11
Love where I live and we live in a beautiful safe. 01:13:13
Clean City and. 01:13:17
How many years I've taken that for granted? 01:13:19
While you guys are. 01:13:22
Behind the scenes making it all happen and I so appreciate it. I just want to let you know. 01:13:25
I think you're awesome. 01:13:30
Thank you. Thank you, Sir. 01:13:32
And. 01:13:34
Brett, do you want to go ahead? 01:13:39
Yeah, but what I'd like to comment on is again as the new guy. 01:13:41
Just how much? 01:13:46
I appreciate staff coming over and bending over backwards to get me up to speed and educate me. 01:13:48
So that going into the new year. 01:13:54
I don't sit here and say, hey, I'm the new guy. 01:13:57
And I can. 01:14:00
Formulate some. 01:14:02
Much more informed opinions in making better decisions than. 01:14:04
I might if I were just trying to figure this out on my own. 01:14:08
And specifically. 01:14:13
Wanted to call out that I've had. 01:14:15
Six different meetings already, which accounts for about. 01:14:18
Five hours of time. 01:14:24
Plus some time with other council members and the mayor. 01:14:28
And more coming up. 01:14:31
So it's a. 01:14:33
It is a little humbling to see how much goes into running a city. 01:14:35
And I also very much appreciate all the citizens who come out and spend their time here. 01:14:41
I remember. 01:14:49
Years ago, going to a council meeting in a different city. 01:14:50
With a group of scouts. 01:14:53
And man, we could not wait to leave. 01:14:56
So as soon as there was a minute, we did. 01:14:59
So I very much appreciate everybody who does this work. 01:15:03
And is engaged in what we're doing. 01:15:07
Awesome. Thank you so much. 01:15:11
All right, Jake. 01:15:12
I surmised all the requests throughout the year that I had submitted and sent them back to the mayor for approval and I know they 01:15:16
didn't get. 01:15:19
On the agenda today. 01:15:24
And I didn't do it to throw it in her face or anyone's faces, but. 01:15:25
I just wanted to stress that these are these are people behind all of them. 01:15:30
You know whether at the. 01:15:34
The biking committee and I don't even think they voted for me. 01:15:36
Coming to me and saying, hey, why don't we put this on to fix Holloway Road or? 01:15:39
Sean Herring spending a lot of time putting together a. 01:15:44
An alternative City Hall that. 01:15:47
Spent hours to say hey this is where we could save money. 01:15:49
Or different issues. I know what far away land owners and my father wanted to speak. 01:15:53
These are people that wanted to hear about World Trade Center Utah, OR in April. 01:16:00
Hey, why are what are we doing with our survey policy? 01:16:05
And you know, having been vote in, I don't like to bring in contentious issues, but these are people that would like that deserve 01:16:08
to be in the public square to be heard. 01:16:13
And even though it's Christmas season. 01:16:17
I just want to say I don't hate anyone that disagrees with them. I hope we can have a great. 01:16:19
Christmas season, but I hope that 2025 can be. 01:16:24
Allowing those people into our city as well. 01:16:29
Thank you, Jake. 01:16:31
Now I saw your e-mail and there's a lot of good items on there and I. 01:16:33
From my understanding, there's. 01:16:36
And I know some of you guys were like, I didn't know. And I, and from now on I'll be very more public on I've submitted this to 01:16:39
the mayor. 01:16:42
I don't know. 01:16:46
I spoke with Brett about how when I submitted to the mayor, does it go to a dark hole? And then I'm finding you, you know? 01:16:48
Maybe it doesn't get known to get to that third vote. 01:16:55
To be able to put on an I'm getting frustrated and so. 01:16:58
I'm going to be very, I'm going to work to be very transparent every two weeks to resubmit these and say, hey, they deserve to be 01:17:01
heard. 01:17:04
On its merits with a. 01:17:07
Up or down vote like the permits on? 01:17:09
You know, 300 W or others. It's just you know, we resubmit and submit and so anyway. 01:17:12
The mayor did send you back an e-mail and everything you requested was on a line item. None of them were put on the agenda today. 01:17:17
Not today. But she gave you a timeline and showed you when they were going to be, right. And she's put those timelines on and the 01:17:23
gamesmanship of it. OK, it'll be in June and then it'll be the July and then it'll be the November and. 01:17:29
A year is now passed and so yeah, there's some delays. This is the first time I seen where she actually took everything you said 01:17:36
and put it in a line item. 01:17:39
And there were quite a few things in the beginning of this. 01:17:42
The beginning of the summer. 01:17:46
That we all talked about getting on the agenda and they were on the agenda. 01:17:48
None of these items were put on the agenda though. Sarah. 01:17:54
Anyway, we can talk about later. 01:17:57
I mean I. 01:17:59
Having played the game back and forth, you know, I'm more than happy to go through line by line of the requests and I know many of 01:18:01
you guys never heard of the request so. 01:18:05
Well, I think, I think it's fair to say a couple of their press review and you were just requested. Yeah, like Sean was new. Yeah, 01:18:10
there were, there were the last two, yeah. So. 01:18:14
But I did see the response where it shows that we do have some progress. I think that's worth celebrating and. 01:18:19
I look forward to discussing these things. 01:18:25
Umm, did you have anything else you wanted to talk about? 01:18:28
It's been a challenge, I'll leave it at that. 01:18:33
OK. All right. 01:18:41
OK. For my report, it has been a lot of meetings. 01:18:46
Specifically, mostly phone calls for the school district, but then we did have, we are working on Keith Grover's bill amendments. 01:18:51
I also had a meeting with Flagborough and Huntsman Cancer Institute. As you guys heard, the grocery store, we're having progress 01:18:58
there and that's really exciting. Huntsman also, we're having progress with with the future ground breaking. 01:19:06
And. 01:19:14
I always feel like same Sir, I I have notes but it never feels like I do it justice. I too want to reiterate the fact that staff 01:19:16
is fantastic. I've had the opportunity to meet with. 01:19:21
Our communications department and I've had a lot of discussions about planning and just everything you guys do, I'm just so 01:19:26
grateful to be associated with. 01:19:30
All of you and seeing the staff camaraderie. 01:19:35
Like Sarah was saying, just the love. 01:19:39
You guys all have for one another. It just shows that there's a really great. 01:19:42
A great culture within our city staff and so we're really. 01:19:45
We're so blessed to have you all, so thank you. 01:19:49
I believe that moves us to Eric. 01:19:53
Did you have anything you wanted to share? 01:19:55
I'm going to send out. 01:19:59
Report to the Council from all of our departments. 01:20:00
That will get included in the packet and be published online with today's meeting. So I'll just get that packet sent out to you. 01:20:04
Awesome, thank you. 01:20:08
There's my justification is that there's so much happening that we end up with A5 page report and I feel guilty. 01:20:12
Reading through A5 page report in here and it's much easier to digest for public and for council to. 01:20:21
Get that in an e-mail form. 01:20:27
Online so that you can kind of peruse it and see all the cool things that are happening. Awesome. 01:20:29
Pam, did I do all of my job appropriately? Is there anything else I've missed? 01:20:34
OK. Well then I guess I will just probably welcome. 01:20:40
Council member, I think. 01:20:44
Officially your first official, yeah. 01:20:49
Brett, welcome. I'm happy to have you. 01:20:52
Thank you. 01:20:55
Anything else? OK, then I move to adjourn. 01:20:56
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Hey, at 6:00 can I have everybody take their seat please? 00:00:03
Umm, I'm going to. 00:00:07
We're going to do something a little bit different tonight. We're gonna quickly open the City Council meeting. 00:00:10
At 6:00 PM on. 00:00:15
Wednesday, December 11th and. 00:00:17
Due to the mayor's absence, she had a meeting of the state tonight that she needed to attend and so I need to call for a motion to 00:00:20
elect the mayor Pro Tem. Pouring. 00:00:25
I nominate Marty. 00:00:33
OK, I need a second. 00:00:35
Hi, Jake. OK, Roll call, Jake. Yes. 00:00:38
Brett, yes. Marty, yes. 00:00:42
Sarah yes, OK, motion passed. I turn the time over to. 00:00:46
Councilmember Sifuente says the Mayor pro tempore and she will also chair. 00:00:50
The RDA meeting. 00:00:55
OK. And then I need to call this meeting to a close so that we can start guarding. 00:00:57
Reset that OK. 00:01:02
Reset. 00:01:05
OK. 00:01:13
It is December 11th at 6:14 PM. 00:01:15
And I would like to open our Vineyard City Council meeting. 00:01:19
We are going to go ahead and start with a presentation at the work session. 00:01:22
3.1 Utah City parking presentation and discussion. 00:01:27
As a reminder, there's no vote that's going to be taken tonight, this is just a discussion for the council if the public has 00:01:30
questions. 00:01:33
Umm, you were looking to be called upon, but. 00:01:37
I believe are we having. 00:01:41
Please, who's presenting or the? 00:01:44
Nate yeah. So we, we do have the the property, the property owners here to present. And just to remind this was from the parking 00:01:46
discussion where? 00:01:50
The council had several questions about the downtown Utah city in general, how parking would be managed, how they would be able to 00:01:54
control parking. 00:01:58
Potentially overflowing into adjacent properties. 00:02:03
And then just kind of the overall scheme, the temporary parking as they build out surface to structure and then the streets now. 00:02:07
Have been restricted for parking because there's construction activities and helping us to understand that. So there's a lot of 00:02:15
points. 00:02:19
That they're going to cover. You're welcome to ask questions along the way. Well, thank you for getting this set up and thank you 00:02:23
for coming. 00:02:26
We'll turn the time over to you. 00:02:31
Thank you. Thank you, Council. I don't know. 00:02:39
OK. 00:02:44
Thank you. 00:02:46
Nate Hutchinson. 00:02:52
Flagship Utah city. 00:02:53
Hope everybody's doing well. So I think there was a there was a few questions that we were asked to respond to. 00:02:56
Umm, so I'll just kind of read those and then we can. 00:03:03
I'm hoping to have a little more of an open discussion and talk through these things. 00:03:07
Parking management currently along roads and within the development of those that are not transit units. That was the first 00:03:12
transit users. That was the first question. 00:03:16
Overall parking management of the project, Howell Rd. structures and lots be handled long term. 00:03:20
How will parking be contained on site as your project builds out? 00:03:25
And then the parking study as that adjusts overtime if you remember in our code. 00:03:28
We have us or you have the ability at 500 units of construction, 1500 units of construction, 3000 units. 00:03:33
And 5000 units. 00:03:43
To require a study to be done by a professional competent parking management. 00:03:44
Group Engineer. 00:03:51
And then the parking, then the parking requirements in the community will adjust based on the findings of that study and 00:03:53
essentially whatever the study shows just become. 00:03:58
The new parking standards. 00:04:04
So that's that's kind of how that that will will work. We're obviously under construction on our first 450 units. 00:04:06
That should start to deliver in June. 00:04:13
It's going to be quite some time before those absorb and lease up and then the next units that will start to deliver will be in 00:04:16
2026. 00:04:19
So we do have some time, so we haven't. 00:04:23
Finalize the parking management plan. We're currently we've hired a property manager. It's Gray Stars, the largest property 00:04:25
management firm in the world. 00:04:29
That will be coming and managing this. This will be one of the first projects they have in Utah County. 00:04:34
I think one of the things and we've communicated this I think before here. 00:04:38
The parking issues that have been found other places in the city. 00:04:42
Have been in areas where. 00:04:46
There's not professional management being done. 00:04:48
And although ample parking may have been provided originally. 00:04:50
In some people's minds. 00:04:55
If you lease. 00:04:56
A unit, for example, that has two or three bedrooms to six or eight college students, you're gonna have a really hard time. 00:04:58
With your parking if that's you know how those units are managed and so. 00:05:04
I think one of the things that will be unique about downtown, although there will be for sale product, there will be plenty of 00:05:10
units that will be sold. 00:05:13
That's been a question that's been asked. 00:05:17
We will be selling units. 00:05:19
The hope is is to establish a sense of place. Get the promenade in, get some retail in, get the grocery store open. 00:05:21
Get Huntsman going. 00:05:27
Before we start selling product, we think, you know, selling into the Sahara desert, it takes too much vision at this point. 00:05:29
But once we establish this. 00:05:37
And and have it become a sense of place? 00:05:39
There it'll be a little bit before sale side of this will tick up. 00:05:41
We're big believers in Vineyard. Long term, we plan on owning a lot of this property for for a long, long, long time. 00:05:48
Which is another thing that's probably a little bit unique in what's happened in other areas where developers will come in, 00:05:55
they'll sell all the products they no longer have. 00:05:59
Have skin in the game. 00:06:04
And I think there's probably very few people in this room that will care as much about how parking is managed. 00:06:06
Downtown that there's ample places for people to park that want to live. 00:06:12
Come to the promenade to shop, to come to the grocery store as we will. 00:06:16
The last thing we want is to build a grocery store that doesn't have enough ample parking for everybody to come and buy groceries. 00:06:20
So we have currently in the in the grocery store that's under construction. 00:06:26
We have twice the amount of parking that's required under the code. 00:06:31
We have 850 stalls, which is about 200 stalls more than what's currently required in the code on the projects that are under 00:06:35
construction. 00:06:39
You can see most some of the first things we do when we do this is. 00:06:42
Is put the parking lots in. 00:06:46
Umm, So that umm is a little bit kind of our philosophy there. 00:06:49
I think. 00:06:54
The question of parking on either side of us containing parking downtown. I think if you look at the you might pull up a map of 00:06:56
Vineyard City. Is that possible? 00:07:02
I have I have one here but. 00:07:09
Might be easier. Oh sorry you gave me this. 00:07:13
Thanks. 00:07:20
Good to see you. 00:07:25
I think one of the things I wanted to illustrate with pulling up a plan here is the Vineyard Connector. Obviously, there's no 00:07:29
parking on Vineyard Connector. 00:07:33
So no one downtown is going to park. 00:07:37
Can or should park on Vineyard Connector? 00:07:39
Currently, there's no parking lot on Main Street. 00:07:42
Which is the next adjacent St. to us. So no one, no one that lives downtown will park there. 00:07:45
All four projects, Tucker Row, The Locks, The Preserve and Lakeshore all are professionally managed. 00:07:50
And in their Hoas. And so none of our people will be parking in there or they will be towed. 00:07:56
I believe. 00:08:02
You know they're managing their own parking. 00:08:03
I think the one Rd. 00:08:05
The lake. 00:08:07
Front Rd. 00:08:09
Which is, I think there's been a lot of discussion going back and forth on that. If you can see there on the left side of the map 00:08:10
there, the bottom left corner is that kind of Lakeshore Rd. that goes down. 00:08:15
Into the Lakeshore community. 00:08:20
Is 1 where people are talking about people parking on both sides of the road. But if you if you look at that I just. 00:08:24
I wanted to illustrate this to show that. 00:08:29
There's nowhere anywhere in the community to the South. 00:08:31
Where any of the people that are living to the north were shopping, et cetera. 00:08:36
It's more convenient than actually just going downtown and parking. We're very committed to making sure that our people, we have 00:08:41
to have enough parking here to be contained downtown. 00:08:47
We'd like the same thing to happen on the other side. 00:08:53
That those communities are managed from a parking perspective that they're not also. 00:08:55
Coming across Vineyard Connector and using all of the parking that's on the other side, that's been built for retail and for 00:09:00
everything else that's on that's on that side. 00:09:04
So that's, that's the hope that we can all work together on that and with whether that's with nightly permits that I know the city 00:09:09
has done in other places, etc. 00:09:13
Um, hourly parking, et cetera, to make sure the cars aren't parked. We, we did have an issue is that those roads were just 00:09:18
finished of. 00:09:21
People taking old cars and parking and leaving them there and. 00:09:24
You know, since now we're. 00:09:27
You know, more focused on. 00:09:29
Making sure that's not happening is the other thing we don't want to do is create a habit today. 00:09:31
And then in a couple of years when we started absorbing to then try to restrict that. I think it's important that we're. 00:09:36
We in the communities to the South. 00:09:41
Or having that understanding at the same time right now like this is how this is going to work moving forward. 00:09:44
So that's our plan and vision for. 00:09:49
For the downtown parking and I'm happy to answer other questions. I've got other material or other things we can go through but. 00:09:52
That's just kind of the overarching. 00:09:58
Parking idea from our perspective there. 00:10:00
So questions Council, do you have any questions? 00:10:04
Sorry, I'm squeaking microphone. 00:10:09
No, it looks good. Did you say you've already started building the grocery store? 00:10:12
Yeah, so, so peers are in the grocery store. Yeah, peers are in. 00:10:16
Underground Piers. 00:10:21
Yeah, so. 00:10:24
So. 00:10:26
The peers have gone in the areas where the footings and foundations will go. The footings and foundation will start in January. 00:10:27
And then we'll build that building as fast as we possibly can, so. 00:10:34
We're hoping that it's a. 00:10:38
Short, concise build and our contractor knows that. 00:10:41
They're under a lot of pressure to get that done. There's a lot of people that want to buy groceries. 00:10:45
We're as anxious as anyone to get it open, so I actually spoke with someone at a local grocery store across the freeway and they 00:10:50
are excited for you to have this because they feel like they're too busy. Oh wow, so that's great. Let's get that in writing. I 00:10:55
know, right? 00:10:59
Notice I didn't say anything. Yeah. 00:11:06
A question that that came up during our parking discussion was the parking was restricted on Main Street and. 00:11:09
The the Transit Rd. And so, you know, and just talking kind of internally. 00:11:16
Like our feelings are as you. 00:11:22
Continue to build it out and it's going to be probably your best interest to keep those route restricted. 00:11:25
As opposed to allowing people back on you're in the middle of destruction. We've had the issues where the more like. 00:11:30
Like extra spots that you have open, then we start to see occupancy go back up. So allow allowing kind of the current parking 00:11:36
regulations to take effect and to mature. 00:11:41
Can you tell us about your thoughts on that and just interim use of that street? Yeah, great insight. There won't ever be parking 00:11:46
on Main Street. This will be similar to what you have on the South will be two lanes of. 00:11:52
Two lanes of. 00:11:58
Traffic in either direction and bike lane on the side. So no, no long term parking along Main St. 00:12:00
And then the other thing we're working on right now is we're working with UTA. This stop is a lot busier than they had anticipated 00:12:08
being. We started with 300, temporary 300 and change, I believe temporary stalls. 00:12:14
They're really excited about how. 00:12:20
How much this train station is actually being used? 00:12:22
Considering you know, we haven't done anything on next to the platform. 00:12:24
So working closely with them, their parking will end up in a shared structure with us. 00:12:29
So people will be able to come. 00:12:35
Use the park and ride during the day and then evening. Can be used for residential. 00:12:37
Residential residents that live in the community and will share the cost of that and it'll be monitored that, you know, obviously 00:12:43
you can't just come and park a car and leave it there for four or five days, which is. 00:12:48
What they're kind of having there, and I think part of the part of the answer to there is. 00:12:53
I think UTA isn't isn't really. 00:12:58
Policing their parking as as much as they maybe are in other areas. 00:13:00
So they've communicated that they're interested in kind of making sure that. 00:13:05
Their parking also, people are bringing, you know, old cars and parking in there and leaving them there forever. So that's 00:13:09
something they're looking at as well. So have you started working with an actual? 00:13:14
Or I guess it's a two-part question, Are you working with a parking study group or just the management company? Yeah, Yeah, good 00:13:19
question. We've narrowed it down to like two or three that we would recommend. Obviously, we're going to jointly, the study will 00:13:24
be done by a group that we jointly agree upon. 00:13:29
But we want, we want the group to be. 00:13:35
A legitimate national parking firm that does this in a lot of different places, so it's not just somebody that doesn't know what. 00:13:38
You know what the studies should be. 00:13:47
And what the parameters are of that so? 00:13:50
Yeah. So we haven't. 00:13:53
We still have a little bit of time that will be probably about a year before we need to really start digging into starting that 00:13:54
study if either, because the other thing is either of us are allowed to request that. 00:14:00
And we may just open and you're going to see 1800 stalls and you're like, OK, well we could do this, but it's really not going to 00:14:05
tell us anything because. 00:14:08
We really aren't going to know anything about parking here until we've got a lot more units, until we have a lot more mixed-use, 00:14:11
until the promenade is going and everything else right now we're going to show. 00:14:16
There's going to be ample parking and it's going to be something overtime that we're going to have to, which is why we both wanted 00:14:20
this request in the code so that. 00:14:24
We don't want to go out here and build what we think is going to be a couple $100 million of too much parking. 00:14:28
And you guys want to make sure that we have enough parking. So it was. 00:14:33
That was a joint agreement there and we're really. 00:14:37
Committed to making sure that there's enough parking here. 00:14:41
I don't know if 500 is the right number. We'll come back and talk about that because once again, that's it. Either of our 00:14:44
requests. If we come back in a year and you're like, no, you know what, we want this study. We're happy to do this study. 00:14:49
If you're like there's 1800 paved stalls here and you only have 400 units open and 75 of them are occupied, maybe we ought to. 00:14:55
Change in weight and do that at 1000 versus 500 because right now the parameters are 515 hundred et cetera, but. 00:15:02
That's up to. 00:15:08
Either of us working together on that. So you said right now you have 3 paint lots. So yeah, there's, there's yeah, there's three 00:15:10
paved lots and then well, actually. 00:15:15
I think there's four pavements, there's two, there's 1800 and. 00:15:20
Just over 18 months for those four, OK. 00:15:26
OK, which also taking a step back, the code does require what we feel like right now. 00:15:28
More than enough parking. 00:15:35
And so when we come in for a building permit and build these buildings, we have to make sure staff doesn't. 00:15:37
And the Commission doesn't allow us to start these projects. 00:15:42
Unless we have. 00:15:45
The required amount of stalls in that plant. So it's not like we're out here saying, oh, we're going to just build whatever we 00:15:47
want and then we're going to do the study. 00:15:51
There is a required amount of parking. 00:15:55
We're well above what is currently in the code and think it's going to be. 00:15:57
More than enough. And we actually think as the studies go on, they're going to show that we need less parking than what's 00:16:01
currently in the code. 00:16:04
Perfect. 00:16:08
Council, do you have any other questions? 00:16:09
No, I think it's really smart. 00:16:12
When Cass explained it to me, I think that's a it's a great move for the downtown to just. 00:16:14
Of that study continually. Well for you too, right, yeah. 00:16:19
Yeah, for both of us. 00:16:23
OK. And then public, I'd be willing to let a couple people just if you want to spend a couple minutes if anyone has any questions? 00:16:24
Since we have. 00:16:31
Developers Daria. 00:16:32
Please make sure to come to the podium and state your name. 00:16:33
Daria Evans, Vineyard Villa's resident. 00:16:42
OK. I just have a couple questions. 00:16:46
About umm. 00:16:49
When you were talking about UTA being a shared parking structure. 00:16:54
How will the people who use UTA for the airport be taken care of? 00:17:00
You know there will be the overnight. 00:17:07
OK, OK. 00:17:09
OK, we'll do that. And then you say you just you have. 00:17:10
1800 parking spots. 00:17:14
Coming on in these 4 parking lots but you have 1886 units coming in. 00:17:16
Although that doesn't include the the other. Oh, will you come to the mic? Keep asking the questions, Daria. We'll take notes and 00:17:21
then they can answer all them. Those were my 2. So you said 1800 units versus you said 1800. 00:17:27
Those four. 00:17:34
Structure. Oh my gosh, where'd it go? 00:17:36
Blocks. 00:17:40
Yeah, Block 568A1413C13B and 18C. That comes to 1886. 00:17:42
Thank you. Thank you. Does anyone else have you know? Let's see if anyone else has questions and then we can answer them all at 00:17:51
once. 00:17:54
Anyone else? 00:17:59
OK, go ahead. 00:18:00
So airport so there will be stalls for people that want to park over. 00:18:03
Overnight there, it'll just be on a. 00:18:06
On AI, don't know how UTA will manage that but they do that in other places as well that they don't. 00:18:08
Right right now, as soon as the one of the. 00:18:14
Facilities for UTA stop has enough stalls. 00:18:18
They just have a pretty simple system where you call in. 00:18:21
You let him know that you're going to be parking there overnight or for a few days. 00:18:25
They give you you give them your license plate and they don't give you a ticket the next time. 00:18:29
So as it's shared, they'll probably have, I don't know, 10 or 15 extra stalls that they'll have for 24 hours and not be shared as 00:18:33
part of the 8 or 900 stalls that are shared. 00:18:38
From a unit perspective, so that's I'm really glad you brought that up because this is only on like the 800 and change units that 00:18:43
are currently under construction. 00:18:47
So it's not for the other blocks that are not yet in and permitted yet, so. 00:18:52
Good question and. 00:18:57
Good eye, perfect. 00:18:58
OK. Well, thank you so much for coming. We really appreciate it. We are going to be continually working on our parking 00:19:00
discussions. 00:19:04
And hopefully have some. 00:19:08
Some progress on everything. 00:19:11
I would just like to leave a comment that. 00:19:13
You know, in the parking meeting we had with. 00:19:16
Residents, we pause and. 00:19:20
So that every development has had a study in. 00:19:22
Everyone kind of had a consensus that. 00:19:24
Every study was failed. So my concern is that again, we're leaning on let's not build it until we do a study. 00:19:27
And then someone in. 00:19:34
That doesn't live in this community is going to do a equation on the amount. 00:19:35
And one of the things that came out from the citizens is instead of studying something in the future, why not? 00:19:40
Study something of actual houses that are here. 00:19:45
And their youth and going off of that number instead of a pie in the sky. 00:19:49
We think people will live this way instead of. 00:19:53
Surveying our residents as to how much parking they wish they would have had. 00:19:57
You know, thank you, Jake. I was just watching Orem City Council and Mayor Young was actually just talking about how. 00:20:01
You can plan, you can plan, but then as you start to see people's habits and. 00:20:07
Changes. 00:20:12
He he talked about how he has an apartment complex or a townhome. 00:20:13
Complex near him and how it's. 00:20:17
Gradually grown and developed and changed. And so that's I think one benefit to our continual study. As things grow and change in 00:20:18
Utah City, it'd be great to have those continual cities. 00:20:23
Thank you for your comment. I just want to go on the record that I disagree with that, but yeah, thanks. 00:20:28
Oh yeah, you're welcome TP. 00:20:33
So, I mean, I think that I think the sorry, Pete Evans. 00:20:35
I think the logic of what you're saying is exactly what's. 00:20:38
Codified in the code. 00:20:41
So when we say we're going to do a study with 500 units every 500 units. 00:20:43
That's so that we can get actual data. 00:20:48
And true up. 00:20:50
With what's really happening. 00:20:51
And the way the parking is really being used, so. 00:20:53
There is there is a baseline in the code right now. 00:20:56
We think that that baseline is set too high. 00:20:59
The city's parking. Sorry, too much parking, but our city has too much parking. 00:21:02
That we think that we think that the downtown area. 00:21:08
Parking code is over parked. 00:21:11
For the uses. 00:21:13
So the mechanism was. 00:21:14
The City Council was uncomfortable. 00:21:16
Going off of the recommendations of the parking consultants. 00:21:19
That we brought in. 00:21:23
They said look if you're right. 00:21:25
Let's look at this after 500 units. 00:21:26
And on 500 unit increments. 00:21:29
If you're right and there's a bunch of empty parking spaces, then we'll readjust it. 00:21:31
If there's not enough and we're under parked. 00:21:35
And we'll adjust it up. 00:21:38
So that we have this true up mechanism as we go forward. 00:21:40
To make sure that there's the appropriate amount of parking. 00:21:43
OK, right, because they're getting real time data, they're not projecting what's coming. 00:21:46
It's after every five. Yeah, that's right. And that's why Nate was saying that. 00:21:52
It may be, you know, even though we have 500 / 500 units permitted. 00:21:56
That's not That shouldn't trigger a parking study. We should wait until. 00:22:02
We have 500 units occupied. 00:22:06
So that we can see how many. 00:22:08
Spaces those people are actually using. 00:22:11
So as we move forward. 00:22:13
We're allocating and planning for appropriate parking amounts. 00:22:15
Or an ex development brought up the same frustration because they feel like they're over parked in areas. 00:22:20
And then Megaplex is under parked and so this this gives you like it really is a brilliant plan. 00:22:25
Because it gives it gives the city real time data. What? 00:22:30
Who's moving in? How many parking stalls they're using like. 00:22:34
What's happening? 00:22:37
Well, and there there are different intricacies too with mixed-use developments where? 00:22:38
You have people that are living and working and playing. 00:22:43
And shopping. 00:22:47
And there's all of those different things have different parking requirements. Some of them will overlap. 00:22:48
And you can share the parking, but it's not 100% overlap. 00:22:53
So we. 00:22:57
Like Nate said, no one is more interested in making sure that the parking here works than we are. 00:22:58
Because it's critical to the success of the community, all the aspects of the community. 00:23:03
And so that's why I think that. 00:23:09
The true this. 00:23:12
Constant evaluation mechanism. 00:23:13
Was a really good way to see what's happening in real time and when we open. 00:23:15
Retail down there, that may change. 00:23:19
How the parking is used and we may have to reevaluate that a little bit. 00:23:21
If the office market comes back, which it will, we just don't know when. 00:23:24
But when the office market comes back and we can. 00:23:28
Cross Park, you know that with residential, that's going to change. 00:23:31
The amount of parking that we need and we'll be able to chew that up so I. 00:23:35
I think the mechanism that's in place is the right mechanism to be able to balance this overtime. 00:23:38
Great. Thank you so much. 00:23:43
OK, that moves us into our public comment period. 00:23:45
If you wish to speak, please keep it too. We're going to go with three minutes. 00:23:51
Please come to this podium. State your name and state where you live. How many people are planning on speaking? 00:23:57
OK, go ahead. 00:24:03
Are you keeping the timer Pam? 00:24:08
Yes, please. 00:24:11
Sorry, switch it up on. 00:24:12
Karen Cornelius Bose. 00:24:17
I'm just here tonight to give a shout out to. 00:24:19
Our sheriff and Nasim. 00:24:24
We had a problem last last week in front of our villas clubhouse when we were preparing to. 00:24:27
Have our Christmas our annual Christmas party. 00:24:33
And my husband called Sheriff Rockwell and. 00:24:36
Shared with him that we would love to have these utility vehicles moved. 00:24:39
And it was done and Nassim showed up about 4:30 and said they're gone. 00:24:43
We shared some cookies with him. 00:24:48
And then we shared the good news with the residents. 00:24:50
And you all got a huge applause. So thank you very much for your tenderness to that. 00:24:54
Thank you so much. 00:25:00
Thank you, Ken. 00:25:10
Daria Evansville's resident I2 Just want to. 00:25:13
Give Naseem and Lieutenant Rockwell the kudos for getting that done. 00:25:17
And also Brian Vaudrey. 00:25:21
And Zach. I can't remember Zach's last name. 00:25:24
Baby, they came to our village clubhouse and gave the senior residents. 00:25:27
Of a couple different communities. 00:25:32
The opportunity to learn about the recreational opportunities for us as senior residents and we participate in surveys. 00:25:35
And I hope that we've received good feedback and I just want to say thank you to them. 00:25:44
For reaching out and that we could accommodate them, it was a great opportunity. 00:25:49
For us as well as residents to share our community clubhouse with other people. 00:25:55
And I think I. 00:26:00
Wanted someone wanted to move in so. 00:26:02
But thank you, it was good. 00:26:07
Awesome. Thank you so much. Does anyone else want to come to the microphone? 00:26:09
OK. And that will move us to, we'll go ahead and do our reports at the end. 00:26:14
And that'll move us to consent. 00:26:21
If anyone has a consent item that we want to discuss, please let us know and we can pull it off the consent items. Otherwise I 00:26:24
just need a motion to approve. 00:26:28
I make a motion to approve. 00:26:40
Consent items. 00:26:44
Let's see, I gotta read them out, right? 00:26:47
Oh, I moved to approve and adopted consent item as presented. 00:26:52
OK, so. 00:26:56
It needs to be done by roll call. 00:26:58
Oh sorry, Jake has the 1st. 00:27:00
Can I get a second? 00:27:03
Second, all right. And this is done by roll call Sarah. So take first, Sarah second. 00:27:05
All right, Sarah. 00:27:11
I mean, yay. 00:27:13
And Brett? 00:27:15
And **** hi. 00:27:17
All right, that was passed. 00:27:19
OK. Now we move forward, we have, we'll move to our business items. 00:27:23
Discussing discussion and action 9.1. 00:27:28
We're going to go ahead and turn the time over to. 00:27:32
Let's see, do I turn it on to onward or do I turn it to one of the staff? 00:27:36
Natalie. 00:27:41
And onward. 00:27:42
August. 00:27:55
And then? 00:27:59
Yeah. 00:28:10
Perfect. 00:28:51
Awesome. OK. 00:29:00
So, um. 00:29:02
I last time I talked about the RFP and that we were in the process of doing the RFP. 00:29:04
I'm super excited to say that we found a company that is. 00:29:09
Umm, how do I? 00:29:14
There we go. 00:29:18
So what a lot of the criteria that we actually had? 00:29:21
Was so specifically a lot of the companies that. 00:29:24
So the average contract amount from proposals received was 107,000. 00:29:28
And there were a lot of different. 00:29:32
Criteria that we so we specifically gave you 7 main items and then of those. 00:29:35
It was broken out into 32 different items. 00:29:41
And. 00:29:44
We had a lot of good companies that. 00:29:45
Proposed and the The main reason that we chose Onward was because not only were they the most affordable overall, but they 00:29:47
included every single thing that we needed. 00:29:52
And not only did they include everything that we needed, but the price. 00:29:58
Is not to exceed 90,000 which to kind of give that into a little bit perspective, it is a better price than what we are currently 00:30:03
paying and it is also. 00:30:07
For more than what we currently have and that. 00:30:13
Our evaluation committee unanimously agreed we all were of accordance that this is not only going to be the best for the city, it 00:30:20
met all of our. 00:30:24
City standards of I had interviewed all of. 00:30:28
The head of staff and it met all of their desires, but then also umm. 00:30:32
Met state standards, so I'm going to let them introduce themselves in a little bit of the plan that we have going forward. 00:30:38
So this is Chad and Jim. 00:30:46
Alright, thank you. 00:30:50
Thank you. I appreciate that. 00:30:51
Acknowledgement there. 00:30:55
What's that? Oh, sorry, my name is Chad Davis. 00:30:56
Part of the leadership team with the Onward technology. We're a company based out of Draper. 00:31:00
And. 00:31:05
The majority of a lot of our clients are in the. 00:31:06
Public education sector and. 00:31:11
Security is something that we do. 00:31:14
That is core to. 00:31:16
The services that we provide. 00:31:17
So I think just real quick, I put, I put together a slide deck. I didn't know how. 00:31:21
Who didn't know how deep you all wanted to go down this rabbit hole? So I think I'll probably just summarize. 00:31:26
In that. 00:31:31
Coming into. 00:31:33
Be your IT services provider. 00:31:34
We've got a set. 00:31:37
List of protocols, policies and procedures that we're going to. 00:31:38
Put in place specifically to combat. 00:31:43
Security breaches and justice up time for people working on the network. 00:31:47
Overall, whether they're. 00:31:51
Connected wirelessly or? 00:31:52
You know, hardwired and so that the people can do their jobs and they can do it without worry of. 00:31:54
You know, threat so. 00:32:02
2024 This slide here is just a. 00:32:04
Just to kind of put into perspective that we've seen a major uptick in. 00:32:08
Just cybercrime across the board. 00:32:14
And the average payout if you're? 00:32:17
Especially like a municipal municipality and you're affected. The average payout right now is. 00:32:20
Increased to about two and a half million, but we see that on the low end it's going to be. 00:32:26
Right around a million if there's. 00:32:30
If you have to go that route, so we put. 00:32:32
Policies and procedures, like I said in place that. 00:32:35
Backups upon backups upon backups that keep. 00:32:39
Keep your. 00:32:43
City data safe and. 00:32:44
You know, knock on wood, free from harm, so. 00:32:49
That's how do I just. 00:32:52
You can press enter or the yeah, and I don't know how much, so we left. 00:32:55
There's like I brought in like 616 slides but the. 00:33:00
But the bottom line is that we've got, we've got a bunch of controls that we're going to put in place. The state has provided. 00:33:03
The state has provided. 00:33:11
Some IT security pieces that we're also going to put in place from. 00:33:15
From a nationwide provider. 00:33:20
That's not that that's being given to the city as part of a state contract thing. I'm not sure I understand that. I just know it's 00:33:22
not. 00:33:25
Being paid for like through us or anything like that. We're just implementing it. 00:33:29
And just run through this. 00:33:33
Pretty quick. One of the things we're going to introduce right off the bat is strong passwords specifically. 00:33:37
With the password manager and I don't know honestly how many of this. 00:33:43
These we want to get through. 00:33:47
Because you know, you know. 00:33:49
Everybody's probably got families to go home too, so. 00:33:51
I I think you can. 00:33:55
Use your discretion, but we like information here, so oh perfect, perfect. 00:33:57
So this isn't all inclusive. I took maybe like our top ten and added a few like. 00:34:01
Bonus options, but umm. 00:34:07
Every company does this a little bit differently. We prefer a password manager part of the. 00:34:09
Proposal that that we've given your team is that. 00:34:14
Is that we implement password manager, that's part of that cost. 00:34:18
Not to exceed 90K. 00:34:21
Microsoft's best practice on passwords now is that they're. 00:34:25
Super strong that they don't rotate a whole lot so that you know what they are. 00:34:29
The use of a password manager is nice because you just have to remember 1 password and then it takes care of. 00:34:32
You logging into your multiple websites. 00:34:37
Multi factor authentication. This is probably something that is. 00:34:41
Hopefully not new to you guys, but we're going to enforce this across. 00:34:45
Any city data usage when you're? 00:34:49
On the network A2 factor key will. 00:34:52
It'll require your phone to log into. 00:34:56
Log into the network. 00:35:01
Or access data. 00:35:02
Actively managed firewalls. 00:35:05
We're in the process. We're right now in the process of doing discovery. So we know that there's one location. 00:35:08
That we're going to be replacing hardware at. 00:35:13
Long term is and I don't know how fast it's going to happen, but long term the other the other. 00:35:16
Two locations that have firewalls at them. 00:35:20
Will eventually get you unified onto the platform. 00:35:23
That, uh. 00:35:26
That we service and that we recommend primarily. 00:35:28
Security awareness training is something that is another thing that the state is providing which. 00:35:32
We're familiar with, we're in know before partner. 00:35:38
And so we'll be implementing that, but basically what that is, is it's. 00:35:41
Training for personnel that are on the network to help them identify when they're being. 00:35:45
Fished if you're not sure what. 00:35:50
Fishing is it's just when bad actors are trying to get you to do. 00:35:53
Things through e-mail that aren't good? 00:35:57
Data integrity so. 00:35:59
Security awareness training will be implemented. 00:36:01
Endpoint protection. 00:36:04
One of the things that the state's providing is Sentinel one. 00:36:07
It's a very robust. 00:36:10
Suite of tools that. 00:36:12
Will be deployed against the network to help. 00:36:15
You know that actor's not get access to him. 00:36:18
One of the one of the things that we do when we're onboarding. 00:36:21
When we're onboarding new clients as we have a set of security protocols that we put in place. 00:36:24
And those are things like network segmentation. 00:36:30
And making it so that there's no one. 00:36:34
One way that you can access the network to get to all of the data. 00:36:38
Sentinel 1 is just an overlay to. 00:36:42
Some of the base core. 00:36:44
Security measures that we're putting in place. 00:36:47
Automated patching so you don't have to worry about is my Windows security up to date or if things like. 00:36:51
You know Adobe Acrobat, you know your servers. 00:36:58
Having that automated and not. 00:37:03
Not at the behest of like end users to try to take care of. 00:37:07
Is one of the best practices. 00:37:10
Advanced e-mail protection Sentinel Sentinel one's got a very robust. Like I said, part of that package is an additional layer of 00:37:14
e-mail protection. So they're looking for. 00:37:19
They're looking for stuff like fish prevention. 00:37:25
Attachment inspection and they'll sandbox things that they don't recognize and they're they're people. 00:37:29
Look at that stuff before it's actually sent on to you. 00:37:35
So they do a good job physical security, this one. 00:37:38
Gets overlooked a lot, but we'll. 00:37:42
We'll make recommendations for what we think. 00:37:44
The city needs to do as far as. 00:37:47
Locking down the data that they control from a physical standpoint. 00:37:50
We will make recommendations, I'm sure that I'm sure the city's, you know, covered on cyber insurance. 00:37:56
That's pretty, pretty standard these days, but we'll. 00:38:02
Look at that and make recommendations. 00:38:05
Content filtering. 00:38:07
Part of our recommendation is that. 00:38:09
Is that the? 00:38:11
Leadership for the city controls what can be seen or can't be seen. 00:38:14
Specifically on the network. 00:38:18
So I think you can probably think of. 00:38:20
There's plenty of stuff that city employees shouldn't be. 00:38:23
You know, perusing while they're on. 00:38:26
The city network. 00:38:29
Will help you control what can or can't be seen. 00:38:30
And that's a. 00:38:33
Part of what we're bringing to the table. 00:38:34
There's AI added just a couple of bonus options here about. 00:38:36
How we're going to configure VPN S or? 00:38:41
When you're off site and need to connect back into. 00:38:43
The the city network. 00:38:47
How that happens in a secure way? 00:38:49
And then at the end of the day, we've got a very. 00:38:52
Very robust backup strategy that we will put into place so that the. 00:38:56
Data that's being. 00:39:02
Housed on city servers. 00:39:05
Is backed up with enough revisions to. 00:39:07
If you know if the worst thing was to happen and there was a major breach or major failure that we could restore that data versus 00:39:11
having to pay. 00:39:15
Pay a bad actor, so backups are our great. 00:39:20
Our our our greatest backup to that happening. 00:39:24
And then on a bad day. 00:39:29
I just this is just a little anecdote that. 00:39:31
You know pilots don't expect a multi engine flame out. 00:39:34
But they're always prepared for if it'll happen. We're going to help your people from a policy standpoint. 00:39:37
Understand that if there is a breach or if there is something bad to happens. 00:39:43
What they need to do in that event? Who they need to call? 00:39:48
And who's responsible for? 00:39:51
Taking those activities and. 00:39:54
Part of our standard. 00:39:56
Part of our standard service offering and. 00:39:58
I'll leave it at that. Any questions? 00:40:01
Council, do we have any questions? 00:40:03
I saw different. 00:40:08
I like the requirement for a password manager. 00:40:10
Is there a preference? I know you had more than one listed up there. Yeah, we prefer bit Warden. 00:40:12
Just from ease of use and management. 00:40:18
OK. Jake, do you have any questions? 00:40:23
All right. Thank you so much, Chad. Yeah, I appreciate you guys having us. Thank you. Thank you. 00:40:27
OK. 00:40:35
I guess if we don't have any questions, we just need to. 00:40:38
Have a vote? 00:40:42
To adopt the resolution. 00:40:44
That's perfect. 00:40:46
Bless you. 00:40:48
I move to adopt resolution 2024-30AS presented. 00:40:51
All right. We have a 1st vice, Sarah, do I have a second? 00:40:56
2nd a second by Brett. 00:41:00
And this is a resolution, so it's a roll call. 00:41:03
Jake No. 00:41:07
OK, Brett. 00:41:10
I mean that I what do I say? 00:41:12
Perfect. It passes. Thank you so much. OK, now, Councilwoman. 00:41:18
If I may just one second, this is a point of clarification on the parking discussion that we recently have. 00:41:23
They did mention that there was not parking on Main Street. 00:41:31
We chatted for a quick minute and he wanted us to clarify. 00:41:34
South of the square, about the Civic square. If you remember you have a civic square, the South leg of Main Street won't have 00:41:39
parking. 00:41:42
But that kind of offsets and then it goes N that they'll they'll be street parking built into the street. OK, Yeah. Thank you for 00:41:46
the clarification. That's good. I also wanted to make a clarification because they have the lowest parking requirements. 00:41:53
Than anywhere else in the city. 00:42:00
Is there any? 00:42:06
Yeah, I'd probably have to look that up to make sure. Yeah, we can, we can provide you that information. I mean, we have to go to 00:42:09
each of the districts and look at them. 00:42:13
Yeah, he was saying that it was high and I was like it. 00:42:18
Even at what it is, it's the lowest and it's not close. 00:42:21
So I just want to make sure that's part of the record where he's asking for even less than the problems that we're facing. 00:42:25
OK. Thank you, Morgan. 00:42:31
All right, so we are going to move into another public hearing 9.2. Can I have a motion to do so? 00:42:33
We need to move into a public hearing. I make a motion to open up the hearing. 00:42:45
Perfect at first by Jake. Can I get a second? 00:42:49
Second, Sarah has a second all in favor. 00:42:52
Aye, aye. 00:42:55
Aye, all right. We're in a public hearing. 00:42:58
We're going to go ahead and turn the time over to Eric. 00:43:01
Thank you. 00:43:05
Before us, we have. 00:43:07
The adoption of an ordinance for a salary increase. This is for our finance director. 00:43:09
As part of the initial offer. 00:43:14
We had included an option for her to complete a certification. 00:43:16
That typically takes a couple of years, and she has. 00:43:22
Muscle through that certification. 00:43:25
And is will plans to have that completed here in the next week or two. 00:43:27
After she takes her final Test on that. 00:43:32
And so we just wanted to approve that. 00:43:35
Because in the last year. 00:43:37
There was a requirement that director level staff. 00:43:39
Compensation adjustments be heard in a public setting like this is marvelously. 00:43:44
Uncomfortable as it is for her. 00:43:49
Or anyone. 00:43:52
And so we're presenting that before you. It adds a. 00:43:54
An amount that's on your packet. 00:43:57
To her salary. 00:44:01
Forward and that would become. 00:44:03
Effective upon that successful completion of her final exam. 00:44:05
Awesome. And the public, do we have any questions or comments? 00:44:10
All right. Can I get a motion to move out of the public hearing? 00:44:17
I make a motion to move our public hearing. All right, first by Jake. Can I get a second? 00:44:21
2nd umm. 00:44:26
Second by Sarah, all in favor. 00:44:27
Aye, aye, aye. 00:44:30
All right, Council, do you have any questions or discussions or do I have a motion? 00:44:32
Well, congratulations. 00:44:43
Well done. 00:44:45
That's great. 00:44:48
All right, if we have no questions or discussion, can I get a motion? I, I can make a comment. I, I vote a lot of things. No, I'm, 00:44:50
I'm kind of a Grinch most times, but on this one I wouldn't be because I'm very grateful for everything that you're doing and 00:44:55
you've done a wonderful job and it's well deserved. 00:45:00
Thank you for everything that you're doing. 00:45:06
I hope you know that's coming from me. 00:45:08
It's great. 00:45:13
My wife hates that I'm a sailor. She. 00:45:17
I move to adopt resolution 2024-36AS presented. 00:45:21
Wait, is it 17? Sorry. 00:45:26
I think you're the wrong one. 00:45:29
I was being so brave. You were going. I'm OK. I moved to adopt ordinance. 00:45:34
2024 Dash 17. 00:45:39
Approving the recommended salary increase for the Finance Director as presented. 00:45:42
And after successful completion of the Government Finance Officers Association certification program. 00:45:47
Awesome, we got a first by Sarah. Can I get a second? 00:45:54
2nd. 00:45:59
So I can't buy Brett. 00:46:00
All right. And this will be done by Wilco. 00:46:03
All right, Sarah. 00:46:06
Hi. Hi, Brett, Hi. 00:46:08
I'm Jake. Hi. 00:46:11
All right, it passed. 00:46:13
All right, that moves us to our. 00:46:16
Our next item it's 9.3. 00:46:20
The interlocal agreement. 00:46:23
Regarding activities related to the formation of the reorganized new school district serving residents of the city's of Linden, 00:46:24
Orem, Pleasant Grove and Vineyard, commonly known. 00:46:29
As uh. 00:46:35
Love PG Linden Orem Vineyard PG. So love PG. There's a lot of love going that one. 00:46:36
And I'll turn the time to Jamie. 00:46:42
Thank you, we love TT. 00:46:45
I I haven't heard that. 00:46:48
I'm not sure how to respond. 00:46:50
I'll leave it at that. 00:46:54
The Thank you for the time to go through this there. As you all can imagine, since the election there has been a lot of activity 00:46:56
around the. 00:47:01
School district separation and formation and so. 00:47:07
I'm gonna err on the side of giving a little bit more background than probably what's required here, just to Orient everybody to 00:47:10
the issues. 00:47:13
And to why we have to do this and then what we have worked with the other cities. 00:47:17
To develop. 00:47:23
On this ILA and then I can give you a promise that this will not be the last time you see. 00:47:25
This document or school district formation issues. 00:47:31
Come up on the agenda. So by way of background, just to set the table. 00:47:34
There were two groups of cities within the Alpine School District boundaries that had. 00:47:40
Petitions. 00:47:45
That went to a vote. 00:47:47
And where the voters? 00:47:48
Voted to separate those areas from the Alpine School District. 00:47:51
One of those was on the western part of their. 00:47:56
Boundaries. This is the Saratoga Springs Eagle Mountain area. 00:48:01
And then the other separation was in the eastern part of the areas that they serve. 00:48:05
And that was the Highland Alpine. 00:48:10
Area there were. 00:48:15
More than just those cities in those groups that were separated, but what was left remaining were the four. 00:48:17
Cities that are contiguous to Vineyard. 00:48:22
And that's your love, PGA. 00:48:25
City. So it was Pleasant Grove. 00:48:28
Linden, Orem and Vineyard. 00:48:30
The way the statute treats this, and I'll confess. 00:48:33
This statue is interesting because I think it contemplated a split of a school board but not a three-way separation. 00:48:37
And so we have. 00:48:44
A little bit of a unique. 00:48:46
Situation there to deal with and there are some things in the statute that. 00:48:47
Leave some room for interpretation. 00:48:51
But what the statute does very clearly state is that. 00:48:54
Those the geographic boundaries of those four cities and there are some other remaining areas within. 00:48:59
The school district, notably up Provo Canyon. 00:49:06
And then up into the Sundance area. 00:49:10
That will all become. 00:49:13
Of a. 00:49:14
Newly reorganized school district. I'm just going to call that our school district, right? That's the one Vineyard will be in. 00:49:17
And as a newly reorganized school district. 00:49:24
The we have to begin the process of setting the boundaries for that district. 00:49:28
And registering the district with the Lieutenant governor's office so that it can be recognized. 00:49:33
And then there are some steps. 00:49:39
The early part of next year where the Lieutenant governor's office and the county. 00:49:41
Will begin the process of. 00:49:46
Dividing that school district boundaries into. 00:49:48
Districts. 00:49:52
And I hate the word district being used twice. But what I mean by this other district is you create council seats. 00:49:54
For that school board and those council seats were organized by district, I'll say lowercase D districts. 00:50:01
And the lower case D districts will need to have boundaries that will eventually be set by the county. 00:50:08
So the cities have some. 00:50:14
Responsibility early on, just to make sure. 00:50:16
That we're following the statutory time frames. 00:50:20
For doing that paperwork and registering the newly organized district with the state. 00:50:23
So there are two deadlines coming up. 00:50:29
Within 30 days of the date the election certified. 00:50:32
The newly reorganized district has to register with the Lieutenant governor's office. That's December 19th. 00:50:36
And that's the reason for some urgency behind this interlocal agreement. 00:50:42
We've been holding meetings among. 00:50:47
The attor. 00:50:50
The city managers and the mayors of Linden, Orem, Vineyard and Pleasant Grove over. 00:50:51
Yeah. 00:51:01
Go ahead and. 00:51:04
We've been working as a group to figure out how to go about doing this. What we have received back from the Lieutenant governor's 00:51:06
office is that they require an interlocal agreement. 00:51:11
We don't want the interlocal agreement at this point to be really elaborate, have a lot of commitments, make a government entity. 00:51:17
Do all of the things that an ILA can do. 00:51:24
We want it to be as spare as it can be to accomplish the purpose we need to achieve. 00:51:27
And that's to register the new district. 00:51:32
With the Lieutenant governor's office. 00:51:35
We have to have the ILA in place and then we also have to create a plat. 00:51:37
This will be a little bit of a napkin drawing plat at the time being, but it's. 00:51:41
We have a surveyor engaged that will be updated as. 00:51:47
We get there, but for now we have to file a plat that has the rough. 00:51:50
Dimensions of not just our district, but the other two. 00:51:54
And those two documents both have to go have to be finalized by December 19. 00:51:58
So that's a long intro to what you have before you in the packet is. 00:52:03
An interlocal agreement between the four cities. 00:52:07
To create the PT. 00:52:11
Got you to say. 00:52:13
It might be the only time. 00:52:15
Well, after we signed up. 00:52:17
Anyway the the interlocal agreement? 00:52:19
Is the formal document that we will need to register. 00:52:22
The new district with the Lieutenant governor's office. 00:52:26
You will. 00:52:29
I expect in about. 00:52:31
A month's time or certainly by the end of January, we're aiming to. 00:52:33
Amend this ILA. 00:52:38
To include some other activities. 00:52:41
The cities may need to coordinate. 00:52:43
Well, let me back up a little bit. 00:52:46
There will there will come a time when Alpine School District creates an inventory of its assets and liabilities, files that 00:52:47
inventory with. 00:52:51
The state legislature. 00:52:56
Auditor General. 00:52:58
And then when the new school boards are formed. 00:53:00
And the school board members are elected. 00:53:04
They will be handed those lists and there will be a time where the three school districts will haggle over. 00:53:07
Who gets what? 00:53:14
We're trying not to view it as a divorce, but as. 00:53:15
Your children have grown up, they're moving out of the house and you're figuring out, you know, what they get to take with them. 00:53:19
And so. 00:53:25
In that process. 00:53:27
We need to make sure that our district is set up to succeed. 00:53:29
And so you may see another version of the Isla come forward where we're preparing. 00:53:33
To make sure that the four cities are on the same page and working together. 00:53:38
So that we can function well together. 00:53:43
As a new school district, but also. 00:53:46
So that if we have to. 00:53:49
Compete with the other school districts over assets and liabilities were in the best possible position to do that. 00:53:51
The goal at the end of the day, clearly. 00:53:57
Is to care for our students. 00:53:59
Right and make sure that they are putting the right position. 00:54:01
That the school district can serve them. 00:54:05
That they don't have the educational resources and everything that they need. 00:54:07
When they began studying. 00:54:12
We're a few years out from when they'll actually go to school at the new school district, but we're going to make sure they're in 00:54:14
a good situation for that. 00:54:17
I don't know that I need to go. 00:54:22
Kind of line by line in the ILA but. 00:54:23
What it does is authorizes the four cities to work together to make the filings with the Lieutenant governor's office. 00:54:25
It also authorizes them to do anything they may need to do related to that. 00:54:31
There always can be things that come up unexpectedly. We want to make sure that's cared for. 00:54:36
And then sometime in January, we expect a new version will come forward that we'll talk about. 00:54:41
How we're going to collaborate and work together. 00:54:46
Provide resources. Share resources. 00:54:49
To set the new school district up to succeed. 00:54:52
Awesome. Thank you. Jamie, does anyone have any questions? I I could report a little bit more on some of the meetings I've had? 00:54:55
Can I make one more clarification? I apologize to. 00:55:04
Look at you up on that. 00:55:07
One of one aspect of the ILA is. 00:55:09
Who represents the city? 00:55:11
And that, I think, is important to note. 00:55:13
The city will have 3 representatives with each of the four cities will have 3 representatives. 00:55:17
The mayor, the city manager and then one member of the City Council. 00:55:22
Marty has been Councilwoman, Sifuentes has been the representative from Vineyard on school board and school related issues. 00:55:26
And so the expectation is that she would continue in that role and she would be the Council representative. 00:55:35
OK. And then also just something of interest it. 00:55:41
Everyone might like to hear. 00:55:45
That were. 00:55:47
Is it still in this ula? Because I saw earlier and I'm having a hard time finding it now, but the temporary name is 10th and 00:55:49
August School District. I think that was pulled out just because we didn't want to presume OK, what it would be. The new school 00:55:54
board has the right to name itself OK and so. 00:55:59
So we're not saying love PG all the time. I think they're going to at some point we will establish a temporary name and then we 00:56:05
will, once our new school board is elected come November, then a lot of things will move forward with them and they'll. 00:56:11
They will get together and make a lot of decisions that. 00:56:18
We're hoping a city. 00:56:21
Well, I've met with several City Council members and. 00:56:23
And heard kind of from some of the mayors of our surrounding cities and the other school districts. 00:56:27
And I'm sorry, the other interlocals. 00:56:31
And most of the goals here are, just like Jamie said, to represent our cities well, to make sure that we're getting what we need. 00:56:35
Infrastructure wise and that our students will be taking care of, but we really would like to do. 00:56:43
We we really would like to leave as many decisions up to the new school board as possible. 00:56:48
And just kind of set them up for success and do what we need to do in preparation. So this is the first big step. 00:56:54
By creating this interlocal agreement. 00:57:00
I know Orem had this in front of them last night and approved it. 00:57:04
And they might. They actually have one little change, but. 00:57:07
They approved a slightly different version, so they will reconvene. 00:57:11
Think at their Christmas party. 00:57:16
So what was the difference in versions? 00:57:18
They they had worked ahead and were beginning to prepare some of the how would you contribute resources and how would you vote on. 00:57:21
Decisions that we need to make. 00:57:31
We all decided we wanted some time to work through that. 00:57:33
And that's why we. 00:57:37
Everybody wanted to get the ILA in place so we can do what statutorily required. 00:57:39
But have it be as stare as is necessary for that. 00:57:44
And then we'll bring an amendment forward to the four cities once we figure out the other issues and and the other issues. 00:57:48
They're simple when you think of it. 00:57:56
In terms of how do you divide the assets of the school? 00:57:59
Because an Alpine school district will create an inventory. 00:58:02
And then? 00:58:07
The three school districts will have to figure out who gets what. 00:58:09
And with the current school district, you have some facilities that are just within cities and I think the expectation is. 00:58:13
If a school building is located within a city, it will remain in the district that's within that city's boundaries. 00:58:21
Or does it correspond with that city's boundaries? 00:58:28
There are some shared resources that aren't that easy to divide. 00:58:31
They have transportation facilities. They have. 00:58:35
Technical education facilities and career education facilities that are shared but are located in one city. 00:58:38
And they have IT facilities and things like that. 00:58:47
That will be a little bit more complicated to divide. 00:58:50
And then all the assets aren't equal. You have new school buildings, you have older school buildings, they have different 00:58:53
maintenance needs. 00:58:56
And so some of the things we've talked about in this. 00:59:02
Is not decided exactly how we want to handle it. This group will have to sort through that, but. 00:59:06
It's what kinds of studies and financial information do you need to have in place. 00:59:11
So when the new school. 00:59:17
Board is elected. 00:59:20
You can hand it to them and have them be able to hit the ground running instead of having to create all that information on the 00:59:21
family. 00:59:24
Thank you, Jamie. 00:59:29
The. 00:59:31
So just like a couple notes, if you know anyone that would be a good school board representative, it'd be a great time to get 00:59:33
involved. This is a really big. 00:59:37
A big project that now. 00:59:41
They'll be working on and we'd love to have in your representation also in meeting with the cities and our new school district. 00:59:43
There's a lot of excitement to be working together, there's a lot of good positive attitudes and. 00:59:52
And then also in working with the other cities that are in their other. 00:59:58
Inter locals it's been pretty great. Were specifically watching and working on a. 01:00:02
Bill that's coming forward by Senator Keith Grover. He presented it in front of the. 01:00:08
Legislative body. 01:00:13
Last week or the week before. And so it's been very interesting because it will definitely have an effect on some of the details 01:00:15
of the split. 01:00:19
And so we've been working and studying that and hopefully we'll have some red lines to submit to Keith Grover, who's been really 01:00:23
great to work with so. 01:00:28
And Council, do you have any questions or discussion? Yeah. 01:00:33
I probably need to disclose again. I do this all the time. Conflict of interest I'm. 01:00:37
Alpine school districts auction service I work for public surplus have for. 01:00:43
17 years. 01:00:48
And I said this to Eric at our meeting, and I know you said you don't want to use the word divorce. 01:00:51
But it really is a divorce. 01:00:58
Having done the auction of many school districts, but probably 1500. 01:01:00
I mean, we do them every two weeks or so. 01:01:06
It's like having a baby sometimes and you're saying I'm going to split half and half and to describe it, it's like. 01:01:11
You're going to split the value of a building. 01:01:18
But there's some things that are in the building that are customized that are there that you sometimes someone wants, but 01:01:20
sometimes they don't want. 01:01:24
But then you have to recreate that, for example. I'm sure that. 01:01:29
The school district to the north doesn't want that massive of a building because they're not going to be using. 01:01:33
That large of a building. 01:01:39
Because it will use less, but so they'll get more value and so there's a lot of intricate conversations. 01:01:41
Thousands of them. 01:01:47
That will go. 01:01:49
We'll go into that and, umm. 01:01:52
So I just want to disclose that. 01:01:56
The second thing though, is umm. 01:01:58
To your point, I. 01:02:01
I know, you reiterate. 01:02:02
That Marty will be in the meeting. 01:02:05
And with the mayor and that. 01:02:08
Umm, with the public meeting minutes it doesn't allow. 01:02:10
Me to be there on that Monday meeting but. 01:02:16
On Monday. 01:02:19
The mayor wasn't there, right? 01:02:21
No, Eric and I attended the most recent meeting, so there's a lot of meetings that there is one and I'm still not being told of or 01:02:24
being included on. I I would have been happy to have you there. 01:02:30
I assume the mayor was coming. So that's something that you would just want to get in touch with her about her scheduling, right? 01:02:37
But we as a culture continue to and I have meetings with Eric. 01:02:41
And the mayor's there. 01:02:46
Mayor hasn't met with me for months, right? 01:02:47
But every time she assumes. 01:02:50
And then it's blocked. 01:02:52
And I know you were not for the split. 01:02:54
I was more of letting the citizens vote. So I come from a different perspective. Let me clarify. I actually thought a two way 01:02:58
split would have been a two. Yeah, and I was more 3. Just, I'm just saying, different. 01:03:03
I just don't want those that have a different perspective to continue to be blocked out because that was a very big meeting on 01:03:09
Monday. 01:03:12
I have many cities that call me right after. 01:03:16
Knowing that it's an hour long meeting, there's a lot of details that are there. 01:03:19
And I could probably assign somebody an advisor or somebody that. 01:03:22
Is not me that could be there that could listen into that perspective and I could understand. 01:03:26
Because that legislation, that is going to be. 01:03:31
Up on the Hill by Senator Grover. It was pretty controversial about like, should we do tons more? 01:03:34
I mean, I'm not in the meeting, so again, I don't, I don't know, but it's. 01:03:40
Should we do a lot of things? 01:03:43
Prior to the split? Or should we do after and what is that? 01:03:46
You know, legislative code, and so I just want to reiterate that. 01:03:49
I don't want to be left out. It's a, it's a passion thing I'd like to be able to have. 01:03:53
Even if it's not me. 01:03:57
I could assign somebody, this is my education person. Even if you and the mayor there, they could be at the meeting. 01:03:59
Well, I think that the specifically the culture of the. 01:04:05
The cities for the school board. 01:04:10
For the, sorry, all three interlocals, they want to actually cut it down. They don't like that there's so many people there. So I 01:04:13
don't think that they would really like the idea of having someone that's not associated as a city manager or a city 01:04:18
representative. 01:04:23
Being the mayor, they specifically are looking to only have one or two people from each city, including the city manager at this 01:04:28
next meeting on Monday. They want less. 01:04:32
Right. And I understand there's going to be certain meetings that are that way, that there's continual meetings that I get texts 01:04:37
and emails about saying I cannot believe that you're not there. 01:04:41
And I go wow. And there's other staff. So I mean, you're, you're welcome to. I think I get what you're saying, Jake, because 01:04:46
there's meetings that I'd like to go to too, but I'm not on the council assignment for those things. 01:04:52
I think 1 recommendation I would give you that would be a really good person to catch you up is maybe calling Julie King. 01:04:57
Because she's kind of led all of the. 01:05:04
Keith Grover, Bill Red Lines, and she has a lot of really good information. 01:05:07
And she would be a good asset. You could also call Ada. 01:05:12
And hear her opinion because she is our school board. Represent representation. 01:05:16
But personally just. 01:05:21
Just as, just as. 01:05:24
From my perspective. 01:05:27
Those meetings are really wonderful, but a lot of what I learned is making those phone calls after, just like you were talking 01:05:29
about your phone calls. 01:05:33
I learn a lot by actually having a one-on-one conversations to get. 01:05:37
Different perspectives than what they might just be presenting in that large group. 01:05:41
But yeah, Jake, I'm not kidding. I actually said the words. It would have been great to have Jake then because I know you wanted 01:05:44
to go, but I had to say that seat for the mayor so we can discuss that as it comes further. But. 01:05:50
Well, I hate to say anything about the mayor's not here, but because, but I also want to not deflect this on any of you and. 01:05:56
Cast any of you in bad light for me being over here, but. 01:06:03
If the argument is always, you must be. 01:06:07
In charge of that responsibility, Board or chair. 01:06:10
And again I. 01:06:13
2024 is going to end and I'm not on any of them, right? So it's hard to end the year of never being involved in a meeting, right? 01:06:15
But. 01:06:19
I don't want that culture to go into 2025. 01:06:24
And hear things late. 01:06:26
And then it. 01:06:29
I want to have good feelings of being able to be at the table right? 01:06:31
A couple things. 01:06:34
This will all change once we have our new form of government. So that'll be that'll be a. 01:06:36
A good solution for this issue. 01:06:42
But I think there's. 01:06:45
There's some other things that we could talk about maybe later if we wanted to put this on the agenda to talk about it as a group 01:06:46
with the mayor involved. 01:06:50
But I appreciate your comments. 01:06:54
I mean, we do hold the ability in the coming year. 01:06:56
Go ahead and move on now. Well, just I had one more question for Jim. We do have the ability to change city charter and code to 01:06:59
how? 01:07:03
Assignments are given. 01:07:07
With three a simple majority vote, right? 01:07:08
I don't know that I understand your question. 01:07:12
By code. That's just that. We voted to give that authority to the mayor, right? 01:07:23
Well, that's the case in. 01:07:29
You know, every city I'm aware of is the appointments are made by the mayor. You could. 01:07:31
Sure, you could make a change to your city code to handle it differently. So if the three of us said hey, we would like to. 01:07:36
I mean I'm getting paid 25,000 a year right? To do something? 01:07:43
I'd love to do. 01:07:46
I don't know, 19, whatever. 01:07:48
I didn't get the checks, whatever it is. 01:07:51
You know, whatever I get paid. 01:07:53
800 conversation for another meeting. That's not the agenda item. OK, But just look into the next year of ways we can. 01:07:56
And I can I can walk through how the representation works on this interlocal agreement. 01:08:05
You know, and how they're reporting that would be but. 01:08:11
The with an ILA you have to establish some kind of structure of how the different cities will interact. 01:08:13
Well, and I. 01:08:20
I appreciate that the ILA does involve a council member, Jake. It originally didn't involve a council member, so. 01:08:21
I think that we're setting up a really good form of communication here. 01:08:28
And. 01:08:32
I would agree with that. It's as many elected officials as you can have participate without it becoming. 01:08:34
De facto council meeting for each of the four entities. 01:08:41
It will allow you to get that work done. You're not contributing any resources right now beyond. 01:08:44
A commitment to share in the cost of creating a survey and I think sharing in the cost of the filing fee with the Lieutenant 01:08:51
governor's office is 25 bucks. You'll support four ways. 01:08:56
So I would say we should have offered to pay for it. So the surveyor will be a little more than $25.00, but not it's not a big 01:09:02
expenditure. 01:09:06
When you see the next version come forward, I. 01:09:10
What you'll see in it. 01:09:13
Will be if resources are contributed. How do you do that? 01:09:15
And. 01:09:19
That may need to be more than just a 1/4 split because the school, the different cities have different numbers of student 01:09:20
populations and taxpayers and everything else. 01:09:25
Perfect. Umm. 01:09:30
OK. So I think we can make a motion to approve this resolution if everyone is comfortable. 01:09:31
If I could just get the money. 01:09:39
All right, there's you'll need to put two things in the motion. One will be to approve the resolution authorizing the ILA. 01:09:41
The other would be naming Councilman C Fuentes to be the cities. 01:09:47
Council representative assigned to this. 01:09:52
I moved to adopt. Is that what I said? 01:09:59
I moved to adopt resolution 2436 as presented. 01:10:02
And with the council representative as. 01:10:07
Oh, where am I switched to that? 01:10:11
Just added in and as the Council representative, Councilman Sefuentes. 01:10:13
OK, so we have a first page 8. 01:10:19
Can I get a second? 01:10:22
Second, Second by Sarah. This is a resolution, so we will do it by roll call Sarah. 01:10:24
Aye, aye. 01:10:32
Aye, Jake, aye. 01:10:33
Perfect, the lesson passes. All right, so that takes us to. 01:10:35
Our mayor and council member reports. 01:10:41
And just as a reminder, this is not meant to be long discussions if there are things that we want to put on the agenda. 01:10:44
We can talk about those things, but. 01:10:51
Why don't we go ahead and start with you, Sir? 01:10:53
OK. 01:10:57
So usually when this comes, you know. 01:10:59
Every. 01:11:02
Every so many weeks so much has happened in my mind's just. 01:11:03
You know, goes blank. 01:11:07
Maybe it's the microphone, I don't know. 01:11:08
But I wanted to slow down a minute. 01:11:11
Because I blazed past my last one. 01:11:13
And I didn't acknowledge Brian for the excellent Blizzard race that happened. 01:11:16
He does such a good job on those 5K's and they're so well attended. 01:11:21
And everybody had fun and. 01:11:26
Yeah, so it was good and I got to hand out water and. 01:11:29
Yes. 01:11:33
So David and Jane ran. 01:11:34
Yeah, Anyway, is this a very cool thing? 01:11:37
And then I didn't say I whined about being the only council member at the Palooza table. 01:11:40
And I neglected the fact that Anna. 01:11:47
Supplied candy. She set up my booth. She brought me decorations. 01:11:49
Like we have such an amazing staff that just go overboard to make our city really special and really amazing. 01:11:54
And I wanted to make sure that I acknowledged you guys. 01:12:00
And Morgan, always. 01:12:04
Brings me my diet Doctor Pepper so I can stay awake. 01:12:06
Thank you very much. And then we had our. 01:12:11
Christmas party. 01:12:14
And Sullivan pulled me aside and introduced me to his staff. 01:12:20
And then Nassim pointed out his staff. 01:12:26
And they just sat and bragged about what excellent people they work with and how grateful they were and how hard they work. 01:12:28
To make our city amazing and I was so impressed. 01:12:35
Just a feeling of kindness and camaraderie and. 01:12:38
Of lifting each other up to do the best they can. 01:12:43
For our city. 01:12:46
I was just, I was humbled and I was impressed and I just. 01:12:48
Well done, all of you, really. 01:12:52
So. 01:12:55
It's been an interesting thing to sit in this seat. 01:12:57
I've said from the beginning I never wanted to do this. 01:13:01
To see the what happens behind the scenes is so impressive to me. 01:13:05
I just sit in my house and I. 01:13:11
Love where I live and we live in a beautiful safe. 01:13:13
Clean City and. 01:13:17
How many years I've taken that for granted? 01:13:19
While you guys are. 01:13:22
Behind the scenes making it all happen and I so appreciate it. I just want to let you know. 01:13:25
I think you're awesome. 01:13:30
Thank you. Thank you, Sir. 01:13:32
And. 01:13:34
Brett, do you want to go ahead? 01:13:39
Yeah, but what I'd like to comment on is again as the new guy. 01:13:41
Just how much? 01:13:46
I appreciate staff coming over and bending over backwards to get me up to speed and educate me. 01:13:48
So that going into the new year. 01:13:54
I don't sit here and say, hey, I'm the new guy. 01:13:57
And I can. 01:14:00
Formulate some. 01:14:02
Much more informed opinions in making better decisions than. 01:14:04
I might if I were just trying to figure this out on my own. 01:14:08
And specifically. 01:14:13
Wanted to call out that I've had. 01:14:15
Six different meetings already, which accounts for about. 01:14:18
Five hours of time. 01:14:24
Plus some time with other council members and the mayor. 01:14:28
And more coming up. 01:14:31
So it's a. 01:14:33
It is a little humbling to see how much goes into running a city. 01:14:35
And I also very much appreciate all the citizens who come out and spend their time here. 01:14:41
I remember. 01:14:49
Years ago, going to a council meeting in a different city. 01:14:50
With a group of scouts. 01:14:53
And man, we could not wait to leave. 01:14:56
So as soon as there was a minute, we did. 01:14:59
So I very much appreciate everybody who does this work. 01:15:03
And is engaged in what we're doing. 01:15:07
Awesome. Thank you so much. 01:15:11
All right, Jake. 01:15:12
I surmised all the requests throughout the year that I had submitted and sent them back to the mayor for approval and I know they 01:15:16
didn't get. 01:15:19
On the agenda today. 01:15:24
And I didn't do it to throw it in her face or anyone's faces, but. 01:15:25
I just wanted to stress that these are these are people behind all of them. 01:15:30
You know whether at the. 01:15:34
The biking committee and I don't even think they voted for me. 01:15:36
Coming to me and saying, hey, why don't we put this on to fix Holloway Road or? 01:15:39
Sean Herring spending a lot of time putting together a. 01:15:44
An alternative City Hall that. 01:15:47
Spent hours to say hey this is where we could save money. 01:15:49
Or different issues. I know what far away land owners and my father wanted to speak. 01:15:53
These are people that wanted to hear about World Trade Center Utah, OR in April. 01:16:00
Hey, why are what are we doing with our survey policy? 01:16:05
And you know, having been vote in, I don't like to bring in contentious issues, but these are people that would like that deserve 01:16:08
to be in the public square to be heard. 01:16:13
And even though it's Christmas season. 01:16:17
I just want to say I don't hate anyone that disagrees with them. I hope we can have a great. 01:16:19
Christmas season, but I hope that 2025 can be. 01:16:24
Allowing those people into our city as well. 01:16:29
Thank you, Jake. 01:16:31
Now I saw your e-mail and there's a lot of good items on there and I. 01:16:33
From my understanding, there's. 01:16:36
And I know some of you guys were like, I didn't know. And I, and from now on I'll be very more public on I've submitted this to 01:16:39
the mayor. 01:16:42
I don't know. 01:16:46
I spoke with Brett about how when I submitted to the mayor, does it go to a dark hole? And then I'm finding you, you know? 01:16:48
Maybe it doesn't get known to get to that third vote. 01:16:55
To be able to put on an I'm getting frustrated and so. 01:16:58
I'm going to be very, I'm going to work to be very transparent every two weeks to resubmit these and say, hey, they deserve to be 01:17:01
heard. 01:17:04
On its merits with a. 01:17:07
Up or down vote like the permits on? 01:17:09
You know, 300 W or others. It's just you know, we resubmit and submit and so anyway. 01:17:12
The mayor did send you back an e-mail and everything you requested was on a line item. None of them were put on the agenda today. 01:17:17
Not today. But she gave you a timeline and showed you when they were going to be, right. And she's put those timelines on and the 01:17:23
gamesmanship of it. OK, it'll be in June and then it'll be the July and then it'll be the November and. 01:17:29
A year is now passed and so yeah, there's some delays. This is the first time I seen where she actually took everything you said 01:17:36
and put it in a line item. 01:17:39
And there were quite a few things in the beginning of this. 01:17:42
The beginning of the summer. 01:17:46
That we all talked about getting on the agenda and they were on the agenda. 01:17:48
None of these items were put on the agenda though. Sarah. 01:17:54
Anyway, we can talk about later. 01:17:57
I mean I. 01:17:59
Having played the game back and forth, you know, I'm more than happy to go through line by line of the requests and I know many of 01:18:01
you guys never heard of the request so. 01:18:05
Well, I think, I think it's fair to say a couple of their press review and you were just requested. Yeah, like Sean was new. Yeah, 01:18:10
there were, there were the last two, yeah. So. 01:18:14
But I did see the response where it shows that we do have some progress. I think that's worth celebrating and. 01:18:19
I look forward to discussing these things. 01:18:25
Umm, did you have anything else you wanted to talk about? 01:18:28
It's been a challenge, I'll leave it at that. 01:18:33
OK. All right. 01:18:41
OK. For my report, it has been a lot of meetings. 01:18:46
Specifically, mostly phone calls for the school district, but then we did have, we are working on Keith Grover's bill amendments. 01:18:51
I also had a meeting with Flagborough and Huntsman Cancer Institute. As you guys heard, the grocery store, we're having progress 01:18:58
there and that's really exciting. Huntsman also, we're having progress with with the future ground breaking. 01:19:06
And. 01:19:14
I always feel like same Sir, I I have notes but it never feels like I do it justice. I too want to reiterate the fact that staff 01:19:16
is fantastic. I've had the opportunity to meet with. 01:19:21
Our communications department and I've had a lot of discussions about planning and just everything you guys do, I'm just so 01:19:26
grateful to be associated with. 01:19:30
All of you and seeing the staff camaraderie. 01:19:35
Like Sarah was saying, just the love. 01:19:39
You guys all have for one another. It just shows that there's a really great. 01:19:42
A great culture within our city staff and so we're really. 01:19:45
We're so blessed to have you all, so thank you. 01:19:49
I believe that moves us to Eric. 01:19:53
Did you have anything you wanted to share? 01:19:55
I'm going to send out. 01:19:59
Report to the Council from all of our departments. 01:20:00
That will get included in the packet and be published online with today's meeting. So I'll just get that packet sent out to you. 01:20:04
Awesome, thank you. 01:20:08
There's my justification is that there's so much happening that we end up with A5 page report and I feel guilty. 01:20:12
Reading through A5 page report in here and it's much easier to digest for public and for council to. 01:20:21
Get that in an e-mail form. 01:20:27
Online so that you can kind of peruse it and see all the cool things that are happening. Awesome. 01:20:29
Pam, did I do all of my job appropriately? Is there anything else I've missed? 01:20:34
OK. Well then I guess I will just probably welcome. 01:20:40
Council member, I think. 01:20:44
Officially your first official, yeah. 01:20:49
Brett, welcome. I'm happy to have you. 01:20:52
Thank you. 01:20:55
Anything else? OK, then I move to adjourn. 01:20:56
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