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All right, we're going to go ahead and start our Vineyard City Council meeting. It's still February 12th, 2025, and the time is 00:00:02
7:00. 00:00:06
And I'm doing a little bit of an adjustment to our schedule. I apologize for all of the adjustments for those that are presenting. 00:00:11
Thank you for your patience with us. 00:00:15
We're going to move to appointments. 00:00:19
I'm wondering if you could raise your hand if Cindy Walker. 00:00:21
Cameron Searson or Stephanie Scott are in the room. 00:00:25
Come up to the microphone if you're here. 00:00:29
And state your name and introduce yourself. 00:00:35
I am Stephanie Scott and I'm going to be working with the youth, the Vineyard Youth Council. 00:00:39
OK. And I think your daughter served as my daughter was the mayor yesterday. I have 3 kids in the program right now, so I 00:00:45
volunteered with it for at least. 00:00:48
Four years since I know I'm going to run in. 00:00:52
So awesome, thank you so much for volunteering. 00:00:55
I'm actually so we're going to start with you. So I need I'm going to. 00:00:57
Does anybody have any questions for Stephanie? Otherwise, I'm just going to ask for a motion. I just want to comment that my son 00:01:03
has worked with you a little bit, worked with your kids, really. And he's, he will be so excited to hear. Yeah, I'm excited. It's 00:01:07
a fun program. Yeah. Thank you so much. 00:01:12
All right then, can I get a motion? 00:01:16
I move to approve the appointment of. 00:01:22
Stephanie Scott, right? 00:01:25
Right. Can I get a second? 00:01:27
Do I need to clarify to the Youth Council? 00:01:29
Sure. 00:01:32
The youth Council Co advisor is what she is approving my recommendation for. Can I get a second? Second by Brett? All in favor, 00:01:33
aye. 00:01:38
All right, thank you so much. Thanks for being here, thanks for volunteering, and we're so excited and happy to have you parents 00:01:43
that you designed some papers afterwards. You're going to stay right here, so for a second. Okay, if I can. 00:01:49
Thank you so much. Yeah, thank you. I'm going to combine 7.1 and 7.2. 00:01:56
And 7.4. 00:02:03
So. 00:02:05
Cindy Walker, she is incredible. 00:02:06
Julia with Communities that Care Commission has recommended Cindy Walker. 00:02:08
If you guys. 00:02:15
Have any questions about the process? Julia can be here tonight. She's a wonderful person. She's been really dedicated and working 00:02:16
with communities that care. And so they're really looking forward to having Julie, I mean, Cindy, be a part of that Cameron's. 00:02:24
Severson or Severson? And sorry if I said your last name wrong, just know you by Cameron, you're not here tonight, but he is 00:02:31
really excited about being with the active Transportation Commission. 00:02:36
I was able to talk to him for a minute. Anthony, one of our planners, had the opportunity to put him to interview him and he's 00:02:42
very excited to serve the community and he's been very actively involved, similar to Stephanie. And so we're just excited for his. 00:02:49
On dedication to serve. 00:02:56
And then as far as council appointments, I have delivered all of your council appointments to you. 00:02:58
I do not have them before me, but what we will do is we'll post them on a website and so each of you know your council 00:03:04
appointments and if you feel comfortable with them, I'm just going to ask for a motion on 7.17 point 2 and 7.4. 00:03:11
I move to approve 7.17 point 2 and 7.4. OK I have a first by Marty to approve 7.17 point 2 and 7.4. 00:03:18
I just want to clarify, are we on the? 00:03:27
Maybe I have an old version of the agenda, but it looks like these are 8 point. 00:03:29
8183. 00:03:35
Maybe you have a newer version and I have an older version. 00:03:37
If there are other numbers, what are the numbers that you have, Eric? 00:03:41
I see it online 8.18.2 and 8.48.18.2 and 8.4. That means that the last one was 8.3. 00:03:46
Mayor, would it be more appropriate for us to approve our council appointments after we've seen them? 00:03:55
You have seen them. 00:04:00
Well, I haven't seen everyone else's. 00:04:01
And you accepted them. 00:04:04
Eric hasn't. Do you want to pull him off and read them? 00:04:05
You could maybe move ahead. 00:04:15
And approve the camp, those others. But give me one second. 00:04:16
I moved to approve 8.1 and 8.2 as presented. Great, I have a first time ready. Can I get a second? 00:04:21
Second. Second by Brett, all in favor. 00:04:27
Aye, all right. 00:04:30
We will wait on 7 or 8.4. 00:04:33
Yeah, sorry about that. There might have been a formatting error, That's OK. 00:04:44
Everybody has technical issues. We can all get past it and read those numbers out loud so. 00:04:48
I told Pam she jinxed me when she kept asking me. That's it. That was what she did. 00:04:54
That's good. 00:05:00
While we're waiting, we'll go ahead and approve the consent items. Can I get a motion? 00:05:15
Right here, but let's check our numbers. 00:05:23
7.1. 00:05:28
So 7.1. 00:05:31
I move to approve the consent items as present, item as presented. All right, we have the first by Sarah. Can I get a second? 00:05:34
Second. Second by Marty on favor. 00:05:42
Aye, thank you. What we're going to do is we're going to ahead and talk about 8.1. 00:05:45
So we have an opportunity to have this in a work session tonight, but it's been asked by Council Member Clausen to move 8.1 to the 00:05:50
next meeting, which is where we would make a decision. 9.19 point one. Thank you. So can I go ahead and get a motion to move that 00:05:56
item even though we'll be discussing it in the work session? 00:06:02
Brett, do you want to make that motion? 00:06:12
Yes, yes, I moved a bit to postpone that the. 00:06:14
Next meeting. 00:06:18
Like our next regular scheduled meeting is where we'll move that to. Brett made the motion to continue it. Can I get a second, 00:06:19
second, second by Marty? All in favor, Aye, aye. 00:06:24
Excellent. 00:06:29
Let's see, well, why don't we go ahead and come back to the other item and we'll go ahead and start in our work session. 00:06:30
We're going to start with you dot. 00:06:37
Paul, I'm going to invite you to the microphone. 00:06:39
And he is the Advanced Air Mobility program manager. 00:06:42
With U dot. 00:06:47
Tony is gonna pull up his slide. 00:06:49
Just a minute. 00:06:52
While we wait for that, we're going to go back to the other items while you stand here. 00:06:54
Just gonna play this game so that we can keep moving. 00:06:59
OK, so we have. 00:07:03
Marty Sipuentez. 00:07:06
Sustainability, income and conservation. 00:07:08
Communities that care. 00:07:12
Program. 00:07:13
Bike Commission. 00:07:15
Economic Committee. 00:07:17
Alpine School District. 00:07:19
And homelessness. 00:07:21
Alternative. 00:07:23
I'm sorry, I'm out of breath. 00:07:24
Sarah Camerons appointments. 00:07:27
Emergency Management. 00:07:29
Air quality initiatives. 00:07:32
Advancing technology. 00:07:34
Legislative Policy Committee. State housing affordability task force. 00:07:36
Library board take care away. 00:07:42
Homeowners association meetings and code enforcement. 00:07:45
Transportation. 00:07:49
Slash parking. 00:07:51
And seniors? 00:07:53
Brett. 00:07:56
Arts Commission. 00:07:57
Youth Council. 00:07:59
Shoreline, Utah Lake Authority. 00:08:00
Alternative. 00:08:04
Tourism. 00:08:06
EUV Alternative. 00:08:10
It's explore Utah Valley, but tourism is in quotes so that we understand OK. 00:08:12
Parks and trees. 00:08:18
Finance and privacy. 00:08:21
Planning Commission. 00:08:24
Perfect and. 00:08:26
Get healthy Utah. OK, Can we go ahead and approve those appointments today? 00:08:29
Can I get a motion? 00:08:35
Does everybody feel comfortable with the appointments that were stated? 00:08:45
OK. Sarah, you said yes, so I feel like that's a motion. 00:08:49
I moved to approve the mayor's appointments. 00:08:53
Perfect. Second a second, a first by Sarah, second by Marty. All in favor? Aye aye. 00:08:56
Perfect. All right, Paul, you're up. 00:09:01
Perfect. 00:09:03
Thank you mayor, council members and city attorney. 00:09:05
My name is Paul Damron. I work with Udot's Division of Aeronautics. 00:09:08
I'm not a lot of people know, but the UDOT does have a Division of Aeronautics WE. 00:09:12
Manage all of our 46 airports. 00:09:17
Through federal funding, capital improvement projects, we also. 00:09:21
Have a few airplanes. 00:09:25
Maintenance crew that maintains them. 00:09:28
We've got an engineer on staff, 1212 full time members that make up our office. 00:09:30
And so I know a lot of people probably don't know that, but. 00:09:37
Anyway, I'm the Advanced Air Mobility Program Manager which is fairly new to UDOT a new position but we have been doing. 00:09:40
Work in this for about 10 years now. 00:09:48
Most of you are familiar with drones. 00:09:51
There's this evolution that I work with of trying to figure out how drones should. 00:09:54
Operate within the state. 00:09:59
And then all the way up to what we'll talk about today, which is aircraft that can carry passengers. 00:10:01
That look like a car as you can see. 00:10:08
It doesn't look like a helicopter. 00:10:12
They are umm. 00:10:14
New forms of technology and aviation that have come together to. 00:10:16
Help support advanced aviation SO. 00:10:20
And I'm gonna have Tony today be my copilot. 00:10:23
He'll be working the. 00:10:25
The slides for me sit. Go ahead. 00:10:27
What I want to do is I want to paint a picture at the state level of what what we're doing and how we how we're supporting this 00:10:29
cause and how. 00:10:33
Communities like yours can can feel at ease. 00:10:38
As maybe the there's a buzzword going around, moving around. 00:10:41
Throughout throughout the state of advanced air mobility and so. 00:10:45
What we've done is we we work really close with our legislators. We have a handful of them that are very interested in helping 00:10:48
support events and mobility. 00:10:52
They work with us to understand what are some of the things we should be looking for, what are the some of the things we should 00:10:57
study. 00:11:01
U dot, as we know, is in charge of moving people. 00:11:04
That's our business, moving people safely and efficiently. 00:11:08
We look at different modes of transportation and in my opinion and through our office and you dot as a whole. 00:11:11
Air travel would be a new mode of transportation that we can move people around the state. 00:11:19
I also connect. We have a discussion during the break. 00:11:24
Also moving people around in a regional sense to getting getting individuals to surrounding states more efficiently. 00:11:28
And So what we, what we've done is back in 2021. 00:11:36
Senator Harper requested us to do a study on what does the. 00:11:40
Infrastructure and a regulatory piece of advanced air mobility look like. What should it look like? What could it look like? 00:11:45
And as I mentioned, what things that Udon is in charge of, you know the the mode of transportation policy regulatory. 00:11:51
Issues. 00:11:59
When it comes up to this stuff and so. 00:12:01
The Utah study for UMM. 00:12:03
Implementing advanced mobility was kind of the tip of the. 00:12:06
I'd say the iceberg as it comes to the air travel for passengers. 00:12:10
Now there's an evolution of. 00:12:16
Crawl, walk, run, I like to say, and we're definitely in the crawl stage. So don't think we're tomorrow going to start seeing 00:12:20
these aircraft show up in the state. However, we are working closely with partners like 47 G to make that happen. 00:12:25
Umm, what? What we're doing is we're trying to to, to make sure we're not bringing the cart for the horse per se. 00:12:31
And that we're on the cutting edge and not the bleeding edge of this technology. 00:12:38
And so a lot of the things that we work with throughout the legislative branches is to make sure that we are confident as U dot. 00:12:42
In the things that we're trying to disperse and the information that we're giving out to the community and. 00:12:52
Towns and cities like like here so. 00:12:59
In 2022. 00:13:01
And I'm just going to breeze through these, but you guys will have this copy. 00:13:03
And you can reference it. 00:13:07
Umm, in 2022. 00:13:10
We saw some really exciting things happen here in Utah. There was two companies that wanted to start doing small package drone 00:13:12
deliveries. 00:13:16
I don't know if you. 00:13:21
Knew that, but in. 00:13:22
Linden and. 00:13:24
Harriman and also in. 00:13:26
West Jordan, there were two companies that were operating out of there. 00:13:28
They were able to understand their operational procedures and define a lot of things work with the FAA. 00:13:32
And they are moving on to different phases of their companies, their business. And they've not necessarily closed the door on 00:13:38
Utah, but they are. 00:13:43
Going to reevaluate some of the FAA regulations that. 00:13:47
That they're working through to understand how they can then successfully deploy back here in Utah. 00:13:51
Zip line is a company that started operating. 00:13:58
They work with Intermountain Health to get. 00:14:01
Prescription drugs out to their their clients. 00:14:05
Umm, I love the the model that they're doing. Zip line. 00:14:10
Actually proven this method out in other countries. 00:14:14
Providing medical support. 00:14:18
Defibrillators. Blood. 00:14:20
To places in Rwanda and other parts of. 00:14:23
Africa and other small countries and so. 00:14:26
They they looked at the United States as an opportunity to move into the market and they chose Utah to help determine that and 00:14:30
they were able to successfully. 00:14:35
Catapult their operations. 00:14:41
In a way that. 00:14:44
Is driving their success. 00:14:45
Next slide. 00:14:48
2023 We looked at registration for aircraft for Advanced Air mobility. 00:14:51
When I say advanced their mobility, I'm also talking about drones, so. 00:14:57
It all encompasses it all so. 00:15:00
Your recreational to your commercial small drones that your neighbors might have. 00:15:03
And there they are regulated by the FAA. 00:15:08
But we do have. 00:15:11
We started in 2023. 00:15:13
Some commercial aircraft registration discussions. 00:15:15
We defined what a vertical port is. A vertiport is like, it's like a heliport. It's where these aircraft will operate in and out 00:15:19
of. 00:15:23
I will let you know that we will be using existing infrastructure at our airports to for initial operations. 00:15:28
And as we work towards. 00:15:34
Venues like the Olympics will be strategically working with. 00:15:36
Our partners like 47 G to understand where those. 00:15:42
Should be placed for an event like that and and we're building an advanced air mobility platform, a system. 00:15:47
That's going to hopefully. 00:15:54
Be here for generations. 00:15:56
Like you see the Interstate, it's here for generations. We look at the Olympics and other events as as events that we can. 00:15:58
Umm educate the public and. 00:16:06
Support. 00:16:08
Those events, but knowing that. 00:16:10
Bigger picture at you got is to make sure that this is a very viable mode of transportation. 00:16:12
We addressed preemption of local ordinances regarding advanced mobility. Have had several conversations with the FA on this. 00:16:17
We understand our place when it comes to federal regulations. We will not be preempting what the FAA is has. 00:16:25
Mandated through their rules and code and so we will complement what they do have. 00:16:33
And industry helps us out. They let us know when we might be getting a little close. And so we appreciate the partnerships that we 00:16:38
do have. 00:16:41
We also looked at prohibiting cities from having an agreement to grant an exclusive use to avert for a company to operate those 00:16:46
reports. 00:16:50
We feel like that this is a free enterprise. 00:16:55
We don't want to silo certain other. 00:16:58
Innovations and opportunities. 00:17:02
When when this starts coming out. 00:17:04
Drone Up begins in 2023, so that was the other small Uas. 00:17:08
Package delivery company drawn up. 00:17:12
In 2024, drone registration rule was actually released for comments we worked through. 00:17:14
Tirelessly all year did a study to make sure that we were capturing everything that we needed. 00:17:20
And the rules actually just came out and. 00:17:26
Are affected as of January 1 of this year. We are developing the program right now to accept those drone registration. 00:17:29
And provide certificates to to those operators. 00:17:38
And this is. 00:17:41
Drone registration would be for anybody that's operating them commercially. 00:17:43
So there will be more information from office. 00:17:47
About that country of origin band, there's been a big. 00:17:51
A big. 00:17:56
Push to make sure that we are working with the right. 00:17:58
Countries that are developing these aircraft. 00:18:02
At a federal level, I saw saying that a federal level, there's issues with. 00:18:05
Certain countries that the FAA's. 00:18:09
Or the our federal partners are aware of and they're making sure that we're not capturing. 00:18:12
Critical information Sensitive data that could be used for other purposes than in what's intended so. 00:18:19
Aerospace lease laws, those are on the books. 00:18:29
We're not intending to do anything with those as of right now. 00:18:31
Land use protection for vertiports or any? Not just vertiports, but any land use protection policy for any. 00:18:35
Aviation facility, we feel that it's very important that the ground around these airports and verdict ports are. 00:18:41
Umm planned in a way that it helps support the. 00:18:48
The use of aviation. 00:18:53
We don't want a high riser to be built next to a vertiport. 00:18:55
It would defeat the purpose of that operation into that location. 00:18:58
And then Project Delta in 2024 was launched there. 00:19:02
Air Logistics and Transportation Alliance. 00:19:07
We're looking at different modes of this technology to help support an aviation to support medical use. 00:19:10
Cargo throughout the state. 00:19:17
Passengers. 00:19:20
And um. 00:19:21
Just the overall. 00:19:23
You know, transportation. 00:19:26
Encompasses a lot, so we're just trying to make sure we're capturing everything and project Alta. 00:19:27
Is partnered with 47G, Goeo, Inland Port and UDOT and then some private, private companies that are very interested in pushing 00:19:32
this forward so. 00:19:37
Go ahead, Tony. 00:19:43
Some current studies that we're doing right now, I'm just going to breeze through these is technology integration. What? 00:19:46
What technology do we need to help support this operation? 00:19:52
And we are finalizing, I mean, almost off the press, an economic impact study that will be made available and all of our studies 00:19:56
are available online. 00:20:00
But this economic impact study for advanced and mobility we're pretty excited about because it's showing. 00:20:05
US information, you know, 11,000 new jobs, $8.8 billion in business activity, 1.8 billion in additional tax revenues that would 00:20:10
come to the state. 00:20:14
And that's just if operations happen here now we've looked at. 00:20:18
Manufacturing, if there was a company that wanted to manufacture here, we've got numbers that support that as well and so. 00:20:23
I you know I'm here to stay and I know 47 G behind me will will mention this too, but our aviation and aerospace industry is very 00:20:30
alive and active. 00:20:34
In the state of Utah, we're excited. 00:20:39
I'm in charge of several working groups. Like I said, we're not just. 00:20:42
Throwing dart at the dart board and hoping it sticks where we want it to. We're actually. 00:20:47
Going through a very methodical process and making sure that. 00:20:52
Providing detailed information to the legislators to make those. 00:20:55
Informed decisions. 00:21:00
And these working groups are helping us do that. 00:21:02
Common concerns that we've found throughout the working group would be community outreach and education. That's at the top of the 00:21:06
list. 00:21:08
Each working group even though that they are not related to. 00:21:12
You know, tied to a community, they felt like community outreach was, was very important. 00:21:16
Enhancing existing infrastructure. 00:21:21
We have several heliports that are scattered throughout the state of Utah. They are all privately used. 00:21:24
There are no public. 00:21:29
Use of heliports in the state of Utah. So there needs to be some type of. 00:21:31
Study done to understand what they look like. What are the. 00:21:36
Conditions. 00:21:39
And could they be used to operate these aircraft And we're working with the guidance through the FAA on that type of stuff. 00:21:40
And then local zoning requirements. 00:21:48
I'll talk about that one here in a minute. 00:21:51
Or a second. 00:21:53
We have several partners. I mentioned 47 G we've we collaborate with over. 00:21:55
Just about 36 states at a multi state collaborative. 00:22:02
Group. We are one of the founding partners or states that support that collaborative. 00:22:05
We've got an MOU signed with Jump Arrow. Jump Arrow is a company that's developing and manufacturing a aircraft that will fly one 00:22:10
individual with paramedic. 00:22:15
Background. 00:22:19
Life saving skills. 00:22:21
To an individual or location. 00:22:23
And then they would get out and help. 00:22:25
Be like the first on scene. 00:22:28
And we felt like partnering with them would help us understand. 00:22:30
Throughout Utah, the need for. 00:22:34
This type of medical support. 00:22:37
Electric Aviation Subcommittee. 00:22:41
I'm a, I'm a part of that, the leadership group. 00:22:43
Aspire Senate Bill 125 a couple years ago was established. Carlos Braceras, the executive director, is the chairman of that. 00:22:46
Of you not. 00:22:54
He's the chairman of that. 00:22:55
And we're looking at how we can enhance. 00:22:56
The electrification system throughout all modes of transportation and aviation is one of those, and so we are coming. 00:23:00
Working together with Aspire out of Utah State University. 00:23:06
Help support that initiative and. 00:23:10
And I'll tell you why we're we're pushing so hard. 00:23:13
Next. So this year what we're trying to do is several things with that electrification. 00:23:16
Subcommittee. 00:23:22
Umm, the governor has budgeted $2,000,000 to help develop charging. 00:23:24
Stations at airports charging station would be one similar to the one that you see on that picture. 00:23:29
That aircraft is. 00:23:35
Rail it is not an. 00:23:37
An AI chat or. 00:23:39
Produced image. 00:23:43
That aircraft is being manufactured in Vermont. 00:23:45
And, umm. 00:23:48
It's pretty cool. 00:23:50
I mean, they're, they're really cool aircraft, not just because I'm. 00:23:52
I'm a student pilot and like to see aircraft, but it's really revolutionizing the way we're looking at and using. 00:23:55
Aviation for transportation but. 00:24:01
We're needing to identify what. 00:24:03
The The $2,000,000. 00:24:06
Won't go far, so we're trying to identify what. 00:24:09
Or what? What airports need that electrification first? 00:24:12
And it's being. 00:24:17
Talked about on the Hill right now, all of these things are Senate Bill 96. 00:24:19
Community outreach and education. 00:24:23
Campaign. 00:24:25
Is instructing this bill is instructing you not to develop that community outreach and education. 00:24:27
Campaign and work with stakeholders to get that done. 00:24:32
Advance their Mobility toolkit. This toolkit is going to help actually support. 00:24:36
Your city. 00:24:41
What it's intended to do is look at ways to. 00:24:42
Craft ordinances to help support this. 00:24:46
Or to support advanced air mobility. 00:24:51
I understand, I worked with a lot of different cities and they have no idea where to start. 00:24:54
They don't know what to do. In fact, some of them have just said. 00:24:57
You're not landing a helicopter. 00:25:00
In the in the vicinity of our city. 00:25:02
Well, this toolkit, while it's not recommended to use, we're not forcing you guys to use it, but it will provide a road map or 00:25:05
some opportunity to look at to say, hey, should we adopt this? Should we not? 00:25:11
And it is going to be authored by us. And so the research that's going to be done is going to be pretty heavy. 00:25:17
And then the funding of those electric charters, so. 00:25:22
Go ahead and go on, I think. 00:25:25
I'm going to skip through these. They're just images that can or videos that can actually be found. 00:25:27
Online, they're, like I said, they're pretty interesting. 00:25:33
But um. 00:25:37
We are working towards right now our next step. 00:25:38
Is working through cargo logistics. How can we? 00:25:41
And we're seeing a. 00:25:45
The manufacturers of these aircraft. 00:25:47
Moving that direction right now to. 00:25:50
To help adopt this type of aviation like. 00:25:53
I don't think if they just plot one of these. 00:25:57
Aircraft here in the middle of the state, people are going to line up to get, you know, get a ride. 00:25:59
And so I think being able to vet it out, demonstrate it, work with communities, work with the state and other stakeholders to help 00:26:04
understand what it is so. 00:26:08
I appreciate your time. 00:26:13
Those that's my end of my presentation. Do you guys have any questions? 00:26:14
I know I spoke fast. I wanted to get 47 G some time to. 00:26:20
To discuss the partnerships that we're working with, it's really good. Where's the best place to go online to find those videos? 00:26:23
So you can find. 00:26:30
I'll actually post this. I think I you'll have this, you'll have this presentation so you can get it off of that. 00:26:32
Yeah, Yeah, you can. They're they're public. They're public videos. Yeah. So thank you so much. This was such a good introduction 00:26:41
and really wanted to talk about what the states doing, where the partnership is. We've been able to work with you guys and have a 00:26:47
good voice at the state, which is great because we have that hospital corridor and all. 00:26:52
Already working. I mean you were talking about some of our partners and some of the zoning that we already have. So thank you and 00:26:57
that's a great read in for 47 G So I'll just invite you guys. 00:27:03
You guys up? 00:27:08
And I'll let you introduce yourselves. 00:27:10
So move it along. 00:27:12
Thank you. 00:27:15
Either way works fine. So if you guys already have it pulled up over there, yeah, give me just like 2 seconds. Let me pull it up. 00:27:17
OK, let's go. 00:27:21
If you could pull it up, that'd be great. 00:27:26
Good evening. Thank you so much for having us here. My name is Corianne Edwards and I am the Chief Strategy Officer for 47 G. 00:27:29
And with me, I have Chris Nuts. 00:27:37
And Ian Robertson and we're going to tag team this presentation just a little bit. 00:27:39
To talk about it. 00:27:45
Look at this great technology. 00:27:50
And Corean, you're the chief strategy officer. 00:27:56
That's what you said and. 00:27:59
And being is transferring to the academia and local government. But right now he's been, he's the director of critical materials. 00:28:01
So it'll make more sense if they give their presentation. I just don't want to. And Chris is our executive director for Project 00:28:09
Alpha. Yeah and he was part of the federal is it Aviation Administration is how you I normally just say FAA. So I was like, is it 00:28:15
aviation? Okay, former deputy administrator of the FBI. 00:28:21
Perfect, SO. 00:28:27
Very lucky to have you guys here. 00:28:28
See, I jinxed myself when I. 00:28:35
Just present, OK? 00:28:42
Thank you. 00:28:43
Doing that and being my. 00:28:45
Advancer. 00:28:48
And I'm going to go through this fast. I know it's been a long day, I'm sure for everybody and but I want to give you some good 00:28:49
information. 00:28:52
About 47 G. 00:28:56
And so we are the, as he's pulling this up, I'll just let you know we are the aerospace and defense. 00:28:58
Association and organization for the State of Utah. 00:29:05
And I'll just have the advance through that. 00:29:11
Our mission is to build the world's premier. I'm sorry, it's so weird having all of you behind me. 00:29:17
But to build the premier ecosystem for aerospace and defense companies. 00:29:23
In the world, and I'll talk through how awesome Utah is in this space in just a minute. 00:29:28
We bring together academia, institute service providers, government and just like. 00:29:34
You got here. 00:29:38
And community partners to foster talent, entrepreneurship. 00:29:40
Fuel innovation for America's deep, deep tech frontier. 00:29:44
A little bit about the organization. It was originally started two years ago and it was named the Utah Aerospace and Defense 00:29:49
Association. 00:29:52
Didn't love the name? You oughta. 00:29:56
And rebranded to 47 G. 00:29:58
Giving heritage, giving homage to our heritage and and some exciting things in the in the aviation space. 00:30:01
Also our last this last summer merged with the Utah Advanced Materials and Manufacturing also known as you AMI initiative to 00:30:08
really give a look at what 47 G is today. 00:30:14
Were or strengthening Utah's position in the aerospace, defense, cyber and advanced manufacturing space. 00:30:20
The exciting thing is, is all universities have seen value in this, especially in the workforce. 00:30:27
Component. So all of our universities are part of the 47G. 00:30:32
Partnership as well as many of our tech colleges and Salt Lake Community College from that and then working a lot of K12. 00:30:38
Thank you. We collaborate with just under 200 partners and members. 00:30:46
And really, the exciting thing about this is 47 G was asked to start by. 00:30:52
A lot of our primes, Martha, come and came to us and said it's time for Utah to have this voice. We've been dominated in this 00:31:00
field for a long time, but we don't have an industry voice. 00:31:04
Which started that working with great organizations like you have here, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Elfry, Harris, Beta Technologies 00:31:09
that that Chris will talk about a little bit and Fordham Technologies. 00:31:14
All in in the cool spaces of aerospace and defense. 00:31:20
Some of our focus areas, community and industry engagement. So really the collaboration of bringing the industry together in a 00:31:25
single voice market insight, where is the market going? Just as Paul talked about this advanced air and mobility, it's going to 00:31:31
change the game for aviation. 00:31:37
And and it's not. 00:31:43
It's not years out, it's now. 00:31:45
And it's going to change the game. So market insight, capital, connectivity, this has been typically an industry that hasn't a 00:31:47
lot. 00:31:51
A lot of capital investment in that. We're changing that space. 00:31:55
And and that's very exciting as capital is coming in to advance the technologies. 00:31:59
For this industry, we provide a lot of technical assistance, especially to our small businesses. 00:32:04
Supply chain, some other things like for Lockheed Martin here in your city. 00:32:09
Looking at what other supply chain needs and how can we connect them to all of our amazing Utah companies, they shouldn't be. 00:32:14
From a vendor in California when we probably got it right here in Utah, so really working with our industries to. 00:32:22
To expand that market economic development, which I know is a high priority for you. 00:32:27
Here and in the city and much more, we work a lot at the workforce development side of it. Talked about all of the university 00:32:33
partnerships. 00:32:37
With the merger of You Amy, they focus on advanced manufacturing and what that looks like. 00:32:42
The State of Utah has five targeted industries that bring the highest GDP to the state of Utah, and aerospace and defense and 00:32:49
advance manufacturing are two of those five. 00:32:54
Life sciences, IT, and financial services are the other ones. 00:33:00
So really taking advantage and and bringing the voice of such major industries. 00:33:05
In our state. 00:33:10
And then the national security and cyber defense of all of this really securing. 00:33:12
Utah's position as being part of our national security and defense system. 00:33:17
The numbers are extremely impressive. 47 G just released. It actually hasn't been publicly released. It'll be done this month, 00:33:23
but. 00:33:27
But the report came out and January talking about the economic impact for this study. All numbers that I will that you see here 00:33:32
are direct, indirect and induced. So the direct times the multiplier that comes with that with this industry about 1.9. 00:33:41
500 and 500,000 total job impact. 00:33:50
The industry employment grew 23.4% over the last five years outpatient outpacing the nation. 00:33:54
Wages and aerospace and defense rose by 31.1% over the last five years, outpacing both the nation and total wage growth in Utah. 00:34:01
Aerospace and defense industry, including critical supply chain and infrastructure, accounts for 19.2 of Utah's total GDP. There 00:34:10
isn't another industry sector that even touches that. 00:34:15
And Utah was the highest five year GDP growth in the nation among states for aerospace and defense. 00:34:22
About 61.9%. 00:34:30
And nearly 1.6 billion in direct annual tax and revenue. So it's a serious industry in the state of Utah and a serious industry 00:34:32
across the nation. 00:34:37
And this is that was the preservice, the lucky drone there that we saw there. 00:34:41
So cool. Vineyard is so primed and Mayor, you have been so um. 00:34:46
Visionary and and seeing the advantages in the aerospace and defense and and. 00:34:53
The defense technology that's that's happening and coming and you have been so engaged in this and and so visionary. 00:35:00
And and understanding this ecosystem and. 00:35:08
And working so hard to bring it to the New York City, some of the things that the Vineyard is really poised for and, and things 00:35:11
we've been working on is you have. 00:35:17
A lot of great land for growth and not everybody can say that. 00:35:22
I live in Weber County and we don't have much land left. 00:35:26
So you're lucky to have that opportunity just for the attraction of the growth. 00:35:29
What Provo is doing? 00:35:35
With their growth and and the expansion and the multi $1,000,000 projects. 00:35:37
That will be happening. 00:35:42
It's going to be a huge advantage here in Utah County and the post proximity to Vineyard is going to just play a critical role. 00:35:43
And what you're able to do and how you're going to connect that primarily ****. 00:35:51
From the hospital side of it to the to the people side of it, to the business side of it, you're just in such. 00:35:56
A great position and then use your whole multimodal connectivity that you have in veneer. It is really a secret sauce and 00:36:03
something special. 00:36:07
That is going to your vision for for doing all of this is going to in my opinion. 00:36:11
Give you generations and generations of of growth for your citizens and and families and everybody else that moves to Vineyard. 00:36:18
So with the front runner again the the Provo airport, future rail hubs. 00:36:26
And different things is just going to really have all that transportation connectivity that we've talked about with Paul here 00:36:34
today and and just the transportation. 00:36:38
Some really cool existing partners that are launching you into the space for Huntsman Cancer Institute with Paul's presentation 00:36:42
with advanced air mobilities and the drones and all the Med. 00:36:47
We can just see how that is going to be a massive game changer. 00:36:52
For you here in the city and how that's going to apply. 00:36:57
You know, Lockheed Martin being, you know, skunkworks and, and part of all of the defense tech that's happening, they're really on 00:37:00
the cutting edge here, right here in your community with a lot of our defense. 00:37:05
Pieces of this so you really have an advanced. 00:37:11
Industry already budding in in this community. 00:37:16
Beta Technologies is one of the electric aircraft that is part of Project Alta and part of all the great work that you have been 00:37:20
doing. 00:37:24
With Advanced air mobility and MLU 47G. 00:37:28
With the support of the Governor's Office of Economic Development and the Utah Department and you dot Utah Department of 00:37:33
Transportation. 00:37:37
With their letters of support, we were able to sign an MO U with Beta Technologies. They are building really the first aircraft, 00:37:40
these electric aircraft. 00:37:44
That will be coming. There's hope that the FAA will be certifying them soon. We can get the federal government settled down doing 00:37:49
good work, right? And Data Technologies is committed to. 00:37:55
To moving into Utah and operating out of here. So super with bringing operators here with their technologies. So, so excited. 00:38:01
This is really the 1st place they've looked out outside of their headquarters in Vermont, so. 00:38:10
Again, Utah has something special. And again, your mayor has been in the forefront of all that. She's been at all the meetings 00:38:15
with data. She's been having all of those conversations and just really seeing. 00:38:20
This vision and where this could go and, and, and thank you. 00:38:27
Mayor for for being part of the voice that's helped shape and evolve this UMM. 00:38:30
And Vineyard is definitely has a seat at the table. 00:38:35
For those pieces. 00:38:38
You know, Excel is such a global leader in our communities here in Utah and the connections that are happening there with Vineyard 00:38:40
City and then just your amazing access to higher education institution and the innovation districts you just really have. 00:38:47
This secret sauce and this building of this ecosystem that is going to be quite amazing already is amazing, but. 00:38:55
Just budding for for what's to come. 00:39:02
And so that was my last slide just to talk about these are the works that we've been doing at 47 G with the New York City to this 00:39:07
point. We've got a lot of exciting ideas for what's next and and what's to come. 00:39:13
I'm thankful for your council members. They've been very engaged. We've had counts to meet. They want to know what we're doing and 00:39:19
where all this is going and, and just appreciate your engagement. I'm just going to quickly turn it over to Chris to talk about 00:39:23
Project Alto a little bit more. 00:39:28
To just augment all the great things that that Paul said and then. 00:39:33
And then a question. Yep. And then we'll have Ian just talk about next steps. And so thank you with that. 00:39:39
Question. 00:39:45
We are. This is actually a discussion for the Council, but we might have time to open it after they're done. 00:39:48
So that's no, I can't ask a question about that. 00:39:55
The presentation is still going and so we might have time to open it. 00:39:58
And Corianne, thank you. It's nice because you also just came from Goyo, which is the government's Office of Economic Opportunity 00:40:04
and so. 00:40:08
My job at .7 G it's fun to have you, you know, be so deep into the space, but also talk about the economic advantages for a 00:40:12
community because. 00:40:17
Right now you mentioned the five strategic. 00:40:21
Kind of markets that the state is going after and we have the same ones in Vineyard as including a 6th 1, which is Agrotech as we 00:40:25
try to diversify the economic landscape of our community. And so this partnership is really meaningful and you highlighted that 00:40:32
very well. Go ahead, Chris, excited to hear from you. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you council members in the city attorney. 00:40:40
As well as the others in that are leading this city. 00:40:47
It's good to be with you again. 00:40:51
You've had a lot of information already delivered on advanced air mobility. It's essentially bringing electric aircraft, electric 00:40:53
aviation. 00:40:57
To the state of Utah. 00:41:01
In May of last year. 00:41:03
Governor Spencer Cox. 00:41:04
Stood in front of the state and and gave a mandate to all of us who work in aviation. 00:41:06
To implement. 00:41:12
Advanced air mobility prior to the Winter Olympics in 2034. 00:41:15
His. His. 00:41:20
Invitation for us to do that was in line with where technology is today. 00:41:22
It's not ahead of technology, it's right in lockstep with technology and I'll talk a little more about that as we press forward. 00:41:28
But in doing so. 00:41:35
He outlined the fact that we needed to. 00:41:36
Do as Paul suggested earlier. 00:41:39
And start. 00:41:42
Our crawl, walk, run. 00:41:43
In order for this not to be the novelty of the Olympics, but an. 00:41:45
Institutionalized infrastructure. 00:41:50
Supporting. 00:41:53
The transportation systems that support the Olympics. 00:41:54
So we're well on our way to do that. 00:41:57
As Corianne noted. 00:42:00
We took the current world leader in manufacturing of these electric aircraft and they have chosen Utah. 00:42:02
Who we are. 00:42:11
Our work ethic, our. 00:42:12
Integrity and our desire and vision for this. 00:42:14
And decided to make us the very first of its kind partnership. 00:42:18
For bringing electric aviation to a state in the country. So we are leading right now in that. 00:42:22
In fact, this aircraft, Aaliyah as it is called, will be visiting the state. 00:42:28
Within the next month. 00:42:34
We will get information to you about how you can actually see it operational. 00:42:36
And step into it, touch it, see how it operates. 00:42:43
It is the future of aviation. 00:42:49
These aircraft are moving forward. The technology is being proven. Utah will be a proving ground for this technology as part of 00:42:51
our partnership. 00:42:57
They will. 00:43:02
Continue to work with the FAA as we have continued to partner with the FAA to make sure that we understand the regulatory 00:43:04
environment and what will be required. 00:43:08
To certify these aircraft so that they operate. 00:43:13
Safely, uh. 00:43:16
And securely. 00:43:17
And financially in a financially viable way. 00:43:19
And so that's our commitment to doing this and there's a four phased approach that we have. 00:43:23
To bringing these aircraft. 00:43:28
Umm, we started a couple of years ago as. 00:43:30
Paul mentioned. 00:43:34
With drone activities with and we look to expand those drone activities. 00:43:36
What he didn't mention was zip lines. 00:43:41
Clientele or more than 400 customers a day that they deliver to. 00:43:44
In the South Jordan area. 00:43:48
And they do so with waivers from the FAA that allow them to safely operate. 00:43:50
When we learn that that is taking place and then it's been taking place in a safe. 00:43:56
And efficient way. 00:44:01
I think some of us are surprised. 00:44:02
That advance their mobility is to that level already. 00:44:04
And they'll be changing out their aircraft, they'll be changing their operating norms, but others will be stepping in. 00:44:07
But along our 4 phases. 00:44:14
We will be doing various use cases. We will go from small package delivery, which is currently what exists. 00:44:17
Into cargo delivery, whether that be small cargo to larger cargo, then we've got first responder capabilities. 00:44:24
Will have avalanche mitigation. 00:44:33
Will have firefighting capabilities that will all be supported by these advanced air mobility measures. 00:44:36
Then we'll have more medical, whether that be life, flight or whether that be. 00:44:42
Moving people from a rural area. 00:44:47
In a more effective way to medical attention. 00:44:49
As we know in some of our. 00:44:53
Our tribal communities, for example, you can be very rural. 00:44:56
And have a medical situation that becomes much more risky because of the inability to quickly maneuver and that cost effective way 00:45:00
to maneuver. So these electric aircraft. 00:45:06
The motor for the beta aircraft. 00:45:13
Whom were delighted to be as partners. Has 23 parts. 00:45:15
It is not a combustion engine, so the price to operate these vehicles. 00:45:20
Is 140th of that of the A. 00:45:25
Helicopter. 00:45:28
And the noise that it makes is one 100th of that of an existing helicopter. 00:45:29
And so when you have no combustion parts, your need for maintenance and. 00:45:35
And overhaul is reduced significantly lowering those costs. 00:45:40
And the more the aircraft can stay in motion, the cheaper that. 00:45:44
Operation becomes. 00:45:49
And it becomes to the point where this is not a replacement for helicopters. 00:45:51
It is the new way. 00:45:56
Of commuting. It is the new way of moving. 00:45:58
Cargo and. 00:46:02
Infrastructure around. 00:46:04
So in those continued phases, we move into the use cases for passengers. 00:46:05
There will be onward. 00:46:12
Passenger travel where an individual may want to get all the way to Park City. 00:46:13
From Birmingham, AL and take passenger aircraft to to the. 00:46:19
Location of a. 00:46:23
Of a vertiport and then take onward travel being electric aviation to a smaller community. 00:46:25
Some of the others would be on demand air taxis. 00:46:32
Tourism, as Paul mentioned, down to our. 00:46:36
Our beautiful national parks. 00:46:39
But it will also eventually evolve into as the battery capabilities last longer. 00:46:41
The aircraft sizes will increase and you'll start to see commuter options. 00:46:47
Much like the. 00:46:53
Passenger ferry operations that you see in the Puget Sound. 00:46:55
In the Seattle area. 00:46:59
Where the consumer has a choice. 00:47:01
To either circumnavigate the Puget Sound to get to Seattle or to take a ferry these. 00:47:04
That is the vision of these lower costs. 00:47:11
High operating capability aircraft. 00:47:14
And so we're moving forward smartly. We don't want this to be the novelty. 00:47:17
Of the Winter Olympics, we want it to be. 00:47:22
The institutional answer to those things. 00:47:24
The aircraft are now. 00:47:28
The technology is now. I do have a video link. 00:47:30
That I'm happy to play now at 7 minutes. 00:47:34
Or we can move that to the presentation that you have. 00:47:37
It is mainstream. 00:47:41
CBS Sunday Morning. 00:47:43
Updating the world on the status of this technology. 00:47:45
It can be found on YouTube. It is worth the look. It highlights both beta. 00:47:49
As well as the other OEM's who will all play a role. 00:47:54
In meeting those use use cases for the state. Would you guys like to see it? 00:47:59
Right now or would you like to watch it? 00:48:04
On your own time. 00:48:06
OK. 00:48:10
We will to be also share it with the public. 00:48:11
Yes, and it's available publicly right now. 00:48:13
Yeah, we'll make it available. 00:48:18
It is embedded in this presentation. I've had the privilege of speaking with you before, but I look forward to any questions that 00:48:22
you might have. 00:48:26
The key here is that we continue to collaborate, that we create an ecosystem that includes. 00:48:30
The four essential elements. 00:48:37
Foundational issues that have to be in place in order for this to. 00:48:39
Be successful. Those are infrastructure development. 00:48:44
The identification of vertiport locations. The identification of electrification capabilities. 00:48:48
That enable these aircraft to operate the identification. 00:48:54
Of the expansion and networks and clusters. 00:48:58
As your mayor and you as a as council members have been working on. 00:49:02
To cooperate with. 00:49:07
Those communities across Utah Lake. 00:49:09
To cooperate with the communities across Utah County. 00:49:12
To create a network if you will of how these can effectively. 00:49:15
Change and augment your transportation solutions now. So infrastructure. 00:49:20
Item number 2 is talent development you've got. 00:49:26
Umm, we're only as good in bringing these aircraft to the community as we are in flying them and maintaining them and and. 00:49:30
Taking care of the infrastructure that supports them. 00:49:40
And so our universities are partnering with us to develop those capabilities. 00:49:43
And then the third one is regulatory reform, which Paul talked about. 00:49:49
We've got to monitor, we've got to help our legislators, we've got to help our councils. 00:49:53
To understand the importance. 00:49:58
Of development, the developmental impact of bringing these aircraft, the economic impact. 00:50:01
The capability of. 00:50:07
Retaining the talent that works. 00:50:08
That we're working so hard to develop in our neighborhoods, retaining them in our neighborhoods. 00:50:11
And we're looking at the regulatory oversight to help make that happen. And then the last one is the community engagement. 00:50:16
We can bring the electric aircraft here, but if nobody wants them landing near their house, even if they're quiet, even if they 00:50:23
are economically important to us. So any chance we get to do what we're doing with Beta and bringing the aircraft here to 00:50:28
demonstrate these capabilities we're looking to do? 00:50:33
So thank you very much. We'll turn to Ian. 00:50:39
Thanks so much, Chris. 00:50:42
And I'll, I'll be pretty quick here. My name is Ian Robertson. I am current my current role with 47G. 00:50:43
Is the director of critical materials. I'm working on EDA Tech of grants Strategy development Grant building a ecosystem of 00:50:50
critical materials here in Utah. 00:50:54
But in the next few months of that grant will sunset, I will transition over to. 00:50:59
A full time position with court under Koreans. 00:51:04
Team which I will be over partnerships with cities, counties, municipalities, local government as well as academia. 00:51:07
So today I have the opportunity of presenting. 00:51:13
Not only as 470, but I'm also a proud resident of Vineyard. 00:51:16
Just a few blocks that way. 00:51:20
And I'm excited to be here. 00:51:22
Also, if you can't tell, I'm always nervous to follow them. It's almost as if like. 00:51:24
The opening act is going after. 00:51:30
The main show. 00:51:32
So you can imagine the shoes I have to follow. 00:51:33
So to talk about some of the focus initiatives for 2025 and beyond. 00:51:37
As it relates to Vineyard City, every year, every time that we meet with our partners. 00:51:42
And these municipalities that we talked to, we create what they call partnership plans and these are some of the ideas that we 00:51:48
have. 00:51:52
Have discussed what some of the value added to the city. 00:51:55
And of course, I am open to these conversations, not only with the mayor but to the City Council as well. So please feel free to 00:52:01
reach out to me and contact me for anything that you may need, any questions or clarifications, But the role in advanced 00:52:06
manufacturing and defense as it relates to some of our ideas. 00:52:11
With Vineyard City in 2025 and beyond. 00:52:17
Is uh. 00:52:21
Vineyards location makes it makes it absolutely strategic. 00:52:22
For the logistics, supply chain and technology integration such as advanced materials development, artificial intelligence, 00:52:26
additive manufacturing, which like 3D printing, we're not just talking about what you do in your basement making little figurines. 00:52:32
Components that go into things such as the RAM initiative and our partners with like data technologies, Stratum and so on. 00:52:40
Of course, new energy technologies. 00:52:48
Electric electronics, mineralization, or your avionics. 00:52:50
Operate these. 00:52:53
Machines and then, of course, cybersecurity technologies. 00:52:56
The opportunities exist here for current and future Vineyard based businesses to supply aerospace materials. 00:52:59
We talked about that a little bit earlier in our presentation. 00:53:05
To major contractors such as Hexcel or or Lockheed Martin. 00:53:08
And of course, we want to support the emergency clean, the emerging clean energy infrastructure. 00:53:13
As we understand that with with the base load concerns as most cities have as they start to develop and grow. 00:53:18
You can go on to the next one. 00:53:25
All right, again, the idea with the expenditure Utah County Airspace and Defense cluster is to attract aerospace, defense, tech, 00:53:29
composite businesses. 00:53:33
And others. 00:53:38
Such as the AM companies and materials engineering firms. 00:53:39
Benefit from the regional transportation hub and developing innovation campus. We understand that this. 00:53:43
Often you hear vineyards, the first mile, last mile. 00:53:47
Of our front runner. 00:53:50
And of course, as that expands, that will change. But you see things at the inland port. 00:53:52
Discussion to start to come up and then of course a close by to these regional airport. 00:53:57
I'm sorry, I thought someone said something. I apologize. 00:54:04
Going forward, again another. 00:54:07
Aspect of this partnership with Vineyard to strengthen workforce pipelines. 00:54:10
We understand the work with the local academic community, such as UVU to expand the workforce development initiatives. 00:54:14
And pathways for manufacturing such as aviation, tech AM and National security. Security which is 2. 00:54:22
Two of those aviation tech and national security, Social Security. 00:54:29
Is a. 00:54:32
Is on the forefront of UVU and their studies, and you're seeing those programs expand. 00:54:34
Dramatically as. 00:54:38
The industry also expands here in the state. 00:54:40
Continuing advancement and participation in emerging industry initiatives. 00:54:43
Chris has already talked about Project Alta, so I'm not going to beat that dead horse right now. 00:54:47
So cyber, cyber security investments and defense tech initiatives that align with vineyards growth plans. 00:54:51
We want to ensure that. 00:54:57
As these partners and these. 00:55:00
Businesses look to expand that. We do so in a smart way. We're working with our local leaders so that they're expanding in a 00:55:02
Safeway as well. 00:55:06
You know, we're not in the game of pushing something faster than it needs to go. Of course, at the end of this. 00:55:10
We want to make sure that. 00:55:18
There is the opportunity for leverage in the federal and state funding, which would be your grants. There's we. 00:55:20
Work with our partners to help identify funding mechanisms for infrastructure improvements, not just for the city, but for. 00:55:26
Our business as well and you'll see research and development. 00:55:32
And workforce training and that also. 00:55:35
Again, goes back to local businesses who are looking to expand on their operations. There are a lot of federal and state grants. 00:55:37
And of course some private grants as well that allow for those mechanisms to be put in place so these businesses so. 00:55:45
Less this is a pretty much we wanted to thank you. 00:55:53
Specifically, the council, the residents of. 00:55:59
A vineyard and of course, the mayor for your partnership. 00:56:01
We look forward to what that partnership will bring to the table in the next few years. 00:56:04
And we're hopeful that we can continue to expand on the role of what aerospace and defense. 00:56:09
Plays here as in your local ecosystem as well as the broader Utah aerospace and defense ecosystem. So thank you so much. 00:56:15
Any questions? 00:56:23
Sorry I went through that really quick. I apologize. 00:56:24
And, and I'm and we're more than happy not to take away from the the meeting, but we can step on the hall. If anybody from the 00:56:28
audience or one of the residents want to ask some questions, we can take that in the hall if that's appropriate. OK, actually that 00:56:34
would be, that would be helpful. So what we'll do to stay in our normal guidelines is stay here for just a second. 00:56:41
What we'll do is we'll have questions that the residents want to continue in the hall. We'll have public comments. 00:56:48
For the residents that want to ask the council questions in the public comment section in just a minute. 00:56:55
But for the Council, one of the things that you mentioned was cybersecurity interest for us to be aware of it as Council members. 00:57:01
As we're working on innovation and working with our university partnerships and you guys are working with cybersecurity, which is 00:57:08
one of the labor forces that we have at UVU with their really incredible program. 00:57:14
That really coincides with this big privacy launch that we've been doing in our community as AI takes more space. 00:57:20
As we're looking and seeing the commercial build out happen along the state, what does that mean for us and. 00:57:28
And so as we're in this partnership, seeing how those different as we're learning about this ecosystem and working with the 200 00:57:34
companies that you guys mentioned that you're working with, being able to get those questions answered, talk about privacy and 00:57:41
talk about what that looks like, not only for bringing jobs, but making sure it's growing in a way. 00:57:47
That we want to see it in the community. 00:57:54
Does the Council have any questions for our good team here? 00:57:56
Right now it was a lot of information so. 00:58:01
We can also continue to just. 00:58:04
Set of meetings. 00:58:06
Thank you for offering the availability to jump on calls and we'll continue on that. And and Mayor, to clarify that last point 00:58:08
about the cybersecurity, we often hear about aerospace and defense being your brick and mortar locations. You know, what are you 00:58:13
building, what are you manufacturing here within the city limits? But you also have to understand that aerospace and defense 00:58:19
expands well beyond these brick and mortar manufacturing, these warehouses, these these shops. 00:58:24
You're looking at individuals who are doing work from inside their own home, and cybersecurity is a perfect example of what you 00:58:30
can do on a computer and what you're operating. 00:58:34
My neighbor for example works in cyber security's, been doing it for 20 plus years. 00:58:38
And he hasn't gotten to the office for at least 5. 00:58:42
But. 00:58:45
There are there are individuals in this community who are. 00:58:47
Fully engaged in the aerospace and defense. So yes, it does affect the citizens of Vineyard in one way or another. 00:58:51
And as again we highlight 20%, nearly 20% of our. 00:58:58
GDP here in Utah is. 00:59:03
Aerospace and defense in indirect and direct way, so. 00:59:05
Want to clarify. Thank you. 00:59:09
Any other questions from the Council? 00:59:10
OK. If not, then thank you so much for coming and making the time. 00:59:13
I'm going to let the residents that have additional questions for you meet you guys in the hallway if you're up for that. 00:59:17
Otherwise, thank you for making the time. 00:59:21
Are they gonna ask you questions about this? They may. 00:59:24
And so my guess is they'll ask you questions of the hall and then in two. 00:59:28
In 2 minutes or two presentations, they'll come in, they'll ask us questions. So. 00:59:32
Thank you all, We appreciate it. 00:59:38
OK. We will go ahead and move to. 00:59:41
Our next item, which is the Vineyard City Pavement Preservation Program update and Chris Thomas with Streets and Storm Water is 00:59:44
going to do the introduction. 00:59:49
For this item. 00:59:55
If you guys think it will take just a minute to set up, I might have us do the next presentation. 01:00:26
Because it's short. 01:00:34
Is that OK? 01:00:37
Oh, OK, OK, OK. 01:00:39
I just wanted to give you the time that you needed in case that was the case. 01:00:42
As the mayor said, I'm Chris Thomas St. the stormwater manager for Renewed City. 01:00:50
And I'm happy to be here tonight for. 01:00:55
Probably the main reason why everyone came. 01:00:57
Our pavement preservation plan the most riveting. 01:00:59
Business item or presentation? 01:01:03
Let me nerd out for a minute. 01:01:06
So. 01:01:09
Maybe. 01:01:14
Yeah, so. 01:01:22
Sorry about that. 01:01:27
So write off a little article. 01:01:34
Umm Public Works director needs 1 billion to get. 01:01:39
Village roads up to standard. 01:01:42
I see this and I. 01:01:45
Automatically see what they haven't ever done any maintenance to their roads and. 01:01:46
It just got to a point where. 01:01:51
It got crazy and when you don't do maintenance. 01:01:53
This is this is what can happen. 01:01:56
In 2023 we we had a. 01:02:00
Pavement condition study done. 01:02:03
That assesses our roads and categorizes into good. 01:02:05
Poor and failed. 01:02:10
And excellent below that you can see the little metrics there of our city. 01:02:12
They have 606 streets 46. 01:02:18
And a half miles roughly of Rd. 01:02:21
Which equates to 25.1 million square feet, which that number kind of jumped out at me. 01:02:24
And it's being a small town, but still. 01:02:29
What the limited staff we have we. 01:02:32
Have quite a bit of. 01:02:34
Of Ron to take care of. 01:02:36
And then you can see below how it's separated into Residential and collector. 01:02:37
The assessment basically came out and said that our most of our roads are average roads are 84%. 01:02:44
The pays around the PCI rating. They're the same, they just move the decimal point. 01:02:52
Our lowest rows are 44. That's actually the road. 01:02:57
Just east of the Public Works building. 01:03:00
Headed towards the dump. 01:03:03
That's. 01:03:05
The Vineyard Connector corridor. 01:03:06
And we don't know timing on that road, so we got to do some work there. 01:03:09
To figure out what we want to do with that for sure. 01:03:14
Umm, so the key high traffic corridors, Main Street 6 N. 01:03:18
For South, some girls that we're going to do. 01:03:23
Some of those may not. 01:03:26
Be as low rated as some of the other roads that we have in the city. 01:03:27
But that's because we've. 01:03:31
Prioritize some of our main roads because we don't want them to get to that that point. 01:03:34
And so it's money. Sometimes it's more well spent. 01:03:39
On keeping some of our roads nicer than maintaining some lesser roads that are less used. 01:03:44
So, umm. 01:03:49
In 2024, Holbrook Asphalt was ordered a five year payment preservation contract by the city. 01:03:53
Better treatments include HA5 and bonded matrix. They've they've done most of the road treatments in Vineyard to this point. 01:04:00
They they've got a great product and we've seen really good results from it, so we're happy to have them on board still. 01:04:09
We we do perform annual inspections and then we get with the contractor. 01:04:18
To make sure that we we have the most. 01:04:24
Cost effective and the right, the right preservation for what Rd. we're treating so. 01:04:26
And then to the right you can see our map. 01:04:33
Which highlights what we're going to do in the 2025 year, the red being. 01:04:37
Bonded matrix. It's a more robust surface for that type of traffic. 01:04:43
And 85 is more for subdivision. 01:04:48
Rods. 01:04:53
So we have a budget of 354,000 approved for the 2425 budget. 01:05:01
We've developed a 2526 plan. 01:05:06
With Holbrook and to prioritize all of our. 01:05:10
Roads. 01:05:14
That we want to want to get treated. 01:05:15
Our crews have been out. You may have noticed them. They were out today. They've been out for for a week or so. 01:05:18
And then last year we we even started some of the. 01:05:24
Some of the crack sealing for some of these roads in preparation it's. 01:05:27
It's good to get them crack sealed up before we put the treatment on. 01:05:31
It adds another layer of impermeability to the route because water is our biggest enemy, so we want to keep that out. 01:05:34
Umm, this is kind of a little. 01:05:43
Pavement Preservation. 01:05:46
Road Map. 01:05:48
You can see like the. 01:05:49
Initial construction to preservation. 01:05:51
Maintenance. 01:05:54
And then eventually you get to a point where you need to do rehab and then the cycle kind of starts over again. 01:05:55
And then back to rehab again. And then at some point you have to reconstruct the road, but we hope that's a long time down the 01:06:00
road. 01:06:04
Umm, we basically took an inventory of our roads the way this started out, and then we assessed the condition of all our roads. 01:06:08
And then? 01:06:17
We establish baselines, basically what what people wanted to see. 01:06:19
You know how nice of a road we wanted to have. 01:06:24
Then we developed and implemented costs and strategies to achieve those results. 01:06:30
And then now we just need to work on. 01:06:35
The long term. 01:06:38
Capital projects like the Transportation Master plan. 01:06:39
And then establish. 01:06:43
Preservation plan from that five to 10 years out. 01:06:45
And then obviously established funding for all of that too, so. 01:06:49
Umm, this kind of segues into Holbrook Asphalt. They're gonna come up and do a little presentation. 01:06:56
Umm, I'll introduce Aaron in a second. Does anybody have any questions? 01:07:04
For me at this point. 01:07:09
You guys used to have this really cool graph that we bring in and make. Is it is it still in here? 01:07:11
Oh OK, I'm excited for that graph. Good visual. You know the graph I'm talking about. 01:07:17
This is great. 01:07:25
OK, OK. Well Aaron Eppley, he is the. 01:07:28
Asset consultant for Holbrook Asphalt, our contractor that we are contracted with, now, he's going to come up and give a little 01:07:32
presentation. 01:07:35
Thank you so much for that introduction, super helpful. 01:07:39
Nice to see you again. I was here, what, three years ago? 3 or 4 years ago? 01:07:45
And. 01:07:48
I'm happy. 01:07:50
That I was able to get a contract in place with you guys. Again, I use you guys as a. 01:07:52
A marketing tool for us. 01:07:57
You have some young infrastructure, you're in a place to where your city is capable of really making a difference in the long term 01:07:59
preservation of your asphalt. 01:08:03
I've brought. 01:08:08
Dozens of other municipal engineers here and showed them what we've been able to do. I I started working. 01:08:09
2013 I think was my first project with Dawn and. 01:08:16
I was a little worried that we weren't going to make the contract this time, but we we got it. So it was good and I, I really feel 01:08:21
like we partnered up really good and found some really good. 01:08:26
Approaches to pavement. 01:08:33
I personally work with about 65 municipalities in three different states. You guys have a very unique situation. Most cities are 01:08:34
not in your. 01:08:38
Place where you're at. 01:08:43
Your staff is heading in the right direction, they're doing things the right way from my perspective. 01:08:44
So I'll get, I'll get moving on Holbrook asphalt. It's the company. 01:08:49
I put this slide in here. So this presentation comes from an hour long breakout session that we do for APWA and Roads and Streets 01:08:54
conferences. 01:08:58
But I put this slide in there and I've just taken like 10 slides out of here to kind of condense everything down South. It'll be 01:09:02
really quick. 01:09:05
But the National Center for Pavement Preservation in the bottom right corner. 01:09:08
Lot of data and information comes from them as well as their the national centers in Lansing, MI at Michigan State. 01:09:12
And the IPA Academy is in Alabama, Auburn University, so that's where a lot of the data comes from. 01:09:19
And I'll show you. 01:09:25
In the National Center, days kind of break the country up into four regions. 01:09:26
Umm. When you look at pavement, when it ages, it starts out nice and pretty and black. 01:09:30
And it starts to oxidize, it ravels out, you lose some of those fines, and then it gets to the point to where it's cracking, and 01:09:36
then you start to get moisture infiltration into your pavement. 01:09:41
And moisture is the enemy of all pavement as well as the oxidating. 01:09:46
Ages. Now there's a couple things that accelerate the oxidative aging. 01:09:50
That's the UV rays and the moisture. Here in Utah, northern Utah, you get the double whammy. You get a lot of moisture on the 01:09:54
roads all winter and you get the higher elevations and you get the sun and that's really what ages your pavement. 01:09:59
So if we can limit the effect that those two things have on your pavement, you can really extend the life of your pavement, you 01:10:05
can lower your ownership cost over the life of the pavement and you can hopefully push that extensive reconstruction outside the 01:10:10
30, maybe 40 year window. 01:10:15
That helps you. 01:10:20
You know, most valuable. 01:10:22
Expenditure of. 01:10:25
Monies you know is no longer that road lasts. 01:10:27
So you have the effective preservation that's mostly done in the early part of the pavement's life. You look at this graph. On the 01:10:30
vertical, it's the pavement condition. On the horizontal, you can have time and even traffic. 01:10:35
The most effective expenditure of your monies is done early on in the pavements life. That's because the payment has those oils 01:10:41
and resins in there no longer you can keep those in the pavement. 01:10:46
The longer that pavement is going to last, the better quality that's going to have and the lower. 01:10:51
Cost Ownership cost over the life of that payment. There are things that you can do later on in a payment's life, but they're 01:10:56
typically. 01:11:00
More expensive, less effective because of the underlying issues. 01:11:04
Get some other information The oxidative aging of pavement begins at the time of construction and continues throughout the 01:11:09
pavement's life. However, the majority. 01:11:12
Of the oxidative aging occurs within the first two to four years of a payments life. 01:11:16
So if you can get involved. 01:11:20
Obviously you can still do things that are beneficial later on, but the most effective way is to get on that payment as soon as 01:11:22
possible. 01:11:25
Acto and Tripp, they put together some research and they said every dollar spent. 01:11:30
Spent keeping a good real good can preclude spent 6 to 14 to rebuild one that has deteriorated. 01:11:35
I think is so impactful to our community. It's how we're building, how we're getting ahead and what the cost savings is to the 01:11:43
people of Vineyard. 01:11:47
It's a long term thing. It's you guys are gonna own the roads forever. And you know, you can own a road for 20 years and 01:11:52
reconstruct it or you can own a road for 40 years and reconstruct it. And it just, it saves you guys so much money if you do your 01:11:58
preservation early and your staff has done a great quality of life too. The durability and then not having to read those so often, 01:12:03
so early, it's, it's incredible. 01:12:09
I got this from you. 01:12:17
So I I use this and it's kind of. 01:12:18
Taken a part of my presentation that I use because I break pavements into three categories. There's maintenance. 01:12:20
There's rehabilitation and then there's reconstruction and every time you. 01:12:27
Move from 1:00 to the next. Your dollars expended per foot go up exponentially. 01:12:32
And so when you're looking at you in a preservation treatment, it's. 01:12:37
More effective, last longer and cheaper. 01:12:41
Rather than waiting for the reconstruction, you know, you can just see the dollars expenditure and I've got this slide. I love 01:12:44
this slide because it's ugly, but it shows this was done for a city just north of Tucson for their City Council because they 01:12:51
wanted to know, OK, we have a subdivision that's 250,000 square feet. They wanted to know. 01:12:57
What is it going to cost us to own that pavement for the next 30 years? 01:13:03
And so we went to the National Center of Pavement Preservation, pulled out the data, and looked at what you know can happen to 01:13:07
pavements when you're effectively or not effectively doing preservation. 01:13:12
So you can look at that first bar graph that's green. 01:13:17
Your PCI is a 96 or 100. 01:13:20
When you get involved there, you're expending $10,000 a year roughly. You're budgeting that. You're not spending it, but you're 01:13:23
budgeting that. 01:13:26
And you can see for every year you wait that PCI drops lower and lower. Now you're having to expend substantially more amount more 01:13:30
monies every year for the life of that pavement. 01:13:35
So it just says get involved often early and this is what happens to the pavement. I'll show you some of this just because it 01:13:41
helps you understand a little bit. You get the UV light and the moisture penetrating the pavement and. 01:13:46
Oxidizing those volatile oils, the pavement is actually a flexible. 01:13:52
Pavement. You want to keep those oils in the pavement, which helps maintain its flexibility and its adhesion to the aggregate 01:13:56
holds the rock in place. 01:14:00
AK51 of the treatments that you use is exceptionally good and that's impermeable to moisture. NUV light. 01:14:04
Up to eight years. 01:14:11
It's been exceptionally It started in two cities in Utah in 2009. 01:14:13
We're in over, I think 350 agencies in 27 states now that are using that as one of their tools in the toolbox. It's not for every 01:14:18
Rd. but it is really effective where it works. 01:14:23
So this this research was done by a guy named Shakira Shinatwa. I think that's right. I don't know if I'm pronouncing it right. He 01:14:29
was a Caltrans engineer for a lot of years. Then he went out on his own. He started doing research and studies on pavement. 01:14:36
And a preservation strategies. 01:14:43
And when he looked at high density mineral bond, or H5, he was saying that it effectively reduces the hardening of the pavement by 01:14:45
67. 01:14:49
What does that mean? 01:14:54
It means. 01:14:55
If you had the red line is an untreated pavement and that's the aging, the hardening of the pavement. So A5 year pavement 01:14:56
untreated as his hard A5 year pavement would be. But if you use a high density mineral bond. 01:15:02
It acts as if it's a three-year payment and so on and so forth. The 10 year old payment would act as a six year payment. 01:15:08
And that's how you're going to extend the life of your pavements. 01:15:14
So Scott Gordon, I've done some breakout sessions with him at Apwa and Rosen streets. 01:15:18
He's the guy that does the data collection and he's got the fancy laser band that tells you how rough your Rd. is, how many cracks 01:15:24
you have and. 01:15:28
Tell you reflectivity of your sign so he's. 01:15:33
Is always the superstar. And then I got to talk about, you know, putting. 01:15:35
Preservation treatment on the pavement so he always gets asked. 01:15:39
What do I do? What's it going to cost? And so he put together a thing, a cost over the do nothing approach, a percent savings and 01:15:45
he amortized it out to 45 years. 01:15:50
So if you look at the red line, that's a. 01:15:55
That's a do nothing approach. You're roughly getting 30 years in the last 10 years of that. Pavement's life is going to be really 01:15:57
rough. 01:16:00
And then the blue line is say you chose a mill and overlay as your strategy. 01:16:03
So you do a mill and overlay at your 15, you do a mill and overlay at your 27, and then you're 41. You're going to do a. 01:16:07
Total reconstruction. 01:16:15
And then that gets you to the 45 years the yellow is an HA5. 01:16:17
Strategy. 01:16:22
So you're doing a HA5 at year 2, Year 8? 01:16:23
You're 17, you're 26, and then at year 41 or you're 40, you're doing a mill and overlay and then another 85. So it's just your 01:16:27
strategy. It's not the only thing that you're going to do, but it's your strategy. 01:16:33
So the reason I show you that? 01:16:39
Is he has put together a huge database? 01:16:41
And he ranked all the different treatments because he always gets asked by City Council what is the most effective treatment. And 01:16:46
it kind of just depends on where you're what you're doing. But what he did is. 01:16:50
Here's the do nothing approach. 01:16:55
And if you take partial reconstruction as your strategy. 01:16:57
You're going to get a 36% cost of ownership savings over the do nothing approach. Instead of 5.6 million per mile, you're going to 01:17:00
pay 3.6 and so on and so forth. He went through each strategy. 01:17:06
And you see down at the bottom. 01:17:11
90. 01:17:13
You go from 5 million, 5.6 million to a 1.1 million and your cost of ownership savings is 80% and high density mineral bar. 01:17:16
Same thing. You're 950-4000. 01:17:24
Per mile, 83% cost. Those are the two strategies that you guys have chosen. 01:17:27
Umm, the one strategy you get bonded matrix is a combination of the two. It's a chip seal with an HA5 cap, so you're getting the 01:17:32
benefit of both of those. The AK 5 is done in the residential areas. 01:17:38
Where you're only you're not concerned about wearing the road out, you're concerned about the environmental impact on it. 01:17:44
So your staff has done an excellent job. 01:17:50
In my opinion. 01:17:53
Well, because I got a contract with you guys, but it is effective and I do bring people here all the time and use you guys as a 01:17:54
marketing tool for me because of what you're able to do now. We think they're doing a great job too. 01:18:00
And I mean. 01:18:06
From years of watching how it's affected us and the cost savings, and I'm really grateful that you use that graph because it's 01:18:07
from the Department of Transportation. I got it from you. You did? Yeah. That offers it to. 01:18:14
How we find things in the state and how we can make it most reliable for our communities. And the first time that we came together 01:18:21
and. 01:18:24
I save you this graph. It was. 01:18:28
So many cities at that time were trying to figure out. 01:18:31
How to pay? 01:18:34
For their streets that have not gone through this process of making these savings and just we got to see the significant cost and 01:18:35
so to be able to visualize. 01:18:40
Not only the cost savings. 01:18:45
The preservation of time, how we're treating it and why we're treating it, it's amazing. I work with about 55 to 65 cities and 01:18:47
the. 01:18:51
Artist thing I have. 01:18:56
To get them to understand is they got to change from the worst first, That's the. 01:18:57
The most costly way to manage your payment. 01:19:03
To a best first. 01:19:05
If you can take care of your good pavements, don't let them fall into the reconstruction. 01:19:06
You know, then you're going to be saving yourself a ton of money and you're not eating up your whole budget. You're able to do a 01:19:12
larger portion of your plant and that's where you guys are. 01:19:15
You're way ahead of the game as far as other municipalities go on your preservation treatments that you've chosen. 01:19:20
And the approach that your staff has chosen to do, and I'm happy to be a part of it, like when I started working with Dawn out 01:19:25
here. 01:19:28
I was just kind of learning too, and I didn't realize what I had. And then I, you know, you guys grew so fast. It's been really 01:19:31
beneficial for me. 01:19:35
And able to show some of your surrounding communities what an effective treatment, what an effective. 01:19:39
Approach to payment preservation can be. 01:19:45
That's great. 01:19:47
Council, do you have any questions about this? 01:19:49
After you've been here for so long, you just become a weird like political romp on this. I'm like when you guys seen the last 01:19:51
time, I'm like, I need to see it and what it looks like and then you can come to our shop so. 01:19:58
One more time, just that beautiful picture. 01:20:07
Of the difference right there, that's the one that makes all the difference. It really does. It does help you understand that you 01:20:11
spend your money on the front end. It's a lot more. You can cover a lot more and a lot more effective than trying to do it on the 01:20:17
back end. Yeah. And all of the graphs and the breakdown that you showed, and really just the watching the sun and the water go in 01:20:23
and watching the difference of how it ages, I think is really important. It's weird how much of our time here is about building 01:20:28
pavement and St. you know? 01:20:34
Expensive assets, yeah. 01:20:40
And every city's that way, yeah. 01:20:42
There's only been one city that I've ever been that with it itself funded it appropriate level. 01:20:45
On their pavement preservation. 01:20:50
Vernal in this because they just they're looking for they got all that mineral rights and the mineral money's down there in the 01:20:52
oil and they're just looking for streets to pay. Every other city is behind the 8 ball because it is so expensive. So it's 01:20:58
imperative that you get on it earlier and take care of it. You guys are doing a great job I really. 01:21:03
And I'm glad that I've been able to have a chance to work with you guys for I think it's been 13 years now. 01:21:09
Thank you. Thank you. 01:21:14
Hey, anything else you guys want to add? No, All right. 01:21:16
We appreciate you and we appreciate. 01:21:19
The very clear explanation of what's happening and we'll go ahead and move on to our next item. 01:21:23
Which is the discussion of code of conduct ordinance. And I'm just going to turn the time over to Brett. 01:21:29
I'm as Jake is absent so you can lead for your team. 01:21:35
Yeah. So we we had it on here as a. 01:21:39
Discussion item for the for the Council in. 01:21:42
I think I'm just gonna talk about it a little bit and we're gonna move that to. 01:21:46
The next meeting. 01:21:50
We got our draft out a little late for everybody to have a chance to. 01:21:53
Review it but have really been through. Made a ton of changes. 01:21:58
Um, and we have a. 01:22:03
Subcommittee work sessions scheduled for Tuesday night with a few of the citizens that. 01:22:07
Were interested in participating in that they already have. 01:22:12
A copy of the of the draft so that they can so that they can review it. 01:22:17
And then, as in tomorrow also already started to get some. 01:22:21
Additional feedback from Council. 01:22:25
And so there, there's a lot of input going into this. 01:22:30
And one of the things that I wanted to say is that the way that it looks like we're starting to structure it. 01:22:35
Is that there's a section on. 01:22:44
Ethics, which is all legal. 01:22:46
And that is very heavily governed by. 01:22:48
The state. So we're going to lean into what the state does. 01:22:52
And then we'll have some other sections that are more internal to the operations of. 01:22:56
Council commissions and boards. 01:23:03
And those will behave a little bit differently, but part of the care that we're really trying to take. 01:23:05
Is to make sure that. 01:23:12
None of what we put in here can be weaponized against anybody. 01:23:15
That it is all about. 01:23:19
Making sure that we are efficient and that we know how to behave. 01:23:22
And that if. 01:23:27
Anybody. 01:23:29
Chooses to misbehave. 01:23:30
That there are very clear ways to find that we. 01:23:33
Can deal with that. 01:23:39
And it doesn't have to go to. We're also building a lot of flexibility. 01:23:40
So that. 01:23:45
It doesn't have to be. 01:23:47
Censure immediately. 01:23:49
Right there, there are lots of. 01:23:51
Steps that we'll be able to go through and there will be a lot of discretion. 01:23:53
That uh, uh. 01:23:58
Chairs and board members and council will have in order to effectively manage. 01:24:00
Our our own behavior. 01:24:07
So so from from that perspective. 01:24:10
I don't know if anybody else has already had a chance to look at it and has any. 01:24:13
Comment that they would like to share. 01:24:18
But, but generally we have we still have a lot more work to do. 01:24:20
In the expectation is that coming into our. 01:24:24
Next meeting will be at a place where we can have some. 01:24:27
Better discussion and be ready for a vote on. 01:24:31
Thank you so much for the work that you guys have put in on it. I was able to read through it and I liked the direction. I'm glad 01:24:35
you're going to have that Tuesday meeting. 01:24:40
I think any way that we can build a document that works for creating the longest durability in our community and that presents an 01:24:44
opportunity for us to have better training and improving any way that we can with transparency and ethics is critical. Also just 01:24:51
on that note, before we move on, you guys might have questions, but I think we also what we'll do is we'll put there's going to be 01:24:57
a. 01:25:03
Financial risk. 01:25:11
Assessment that we also have to complete the training for next time that one's actually implemented and done. 01:25:13
Already And that we've had to adopt and it's for insurance purposes. So we'll just probably send out the link and have you take 01:25:20
that. 01:25:24
Before the next meeting so that you can get your paperwork in. 01:25:28
For notification. 01:25:32
But do you have any comments for Brett otherwise? 01:25:34
Thank you I I do have one letter for the for the people in the room if. 01:25:38
You are interested in providing any specific feedback. 01:25:42
My contact information is on the city's website. You can send me an e-mail. 01:25:48
And I'm happy to work with anybody who's interested. 01:25:52
Any other comments? That's great. Thank you, Brett. OK. 01:25:57
Great. I'm going to open up public comment. Can you raise your hand if you want to speak? 01:26:00
OK, so we have 12344 comments come up. We'll have two minutes. Tony will set a timer. We're excited to hear from you. 01:26:05
Hi, I'm David Luray resident. 01:26:23
I want to thank the Council with a chance to. 01:26:25
Address you about an issue. 01:26:28
We used to learn about the. 01:26:30
Treating the streets to preserve the serve them and last longer. 01:26:32
I've seen this presentation several times in the years and. 01:26:36
That's a great idea, but I'm wondering though. 01:26:39
What are we doing to take care of the issues where we have some warranty problems essentially with it? There's some places where 01:26:42
the treatment has a stick. 01:26:46
Or where it's failed to do its job properly. 01:26:50
There's a place over Sleepy Ridge where it's come off. There's also 170 S. 01:26:53
All several of the trails that we have where they were treated. 01:26:58
Haven't really done very well. 01:27:01
Wondering what can we you know what can be done to make sure that we. 01:27:02
One have a warranty that it guarantees that. 01:27:06
And two, that we exercise our option to get those things fixed. 01:27:08
Thanks. 01:27:12
Daria Evans Resident I also have a similar question about the pavement thing. I think that's a good idea also to prove it and. 01:27:23
To repair. 01:27:31
But I have a question about the roundabouts. 01:27:33
I think they need reconstruction. They are just falling apart. 01:27:35
And it's going to cost a lot more. 01:27:39
I don't know why they weren't just paved to begin with. So that's my comment. 01:27:42
In question. Thank you. 01:27:46
Karen Cornelius. 01:28:06
I recently read an article penned by our mayor and in it it said that the best governments are the government's closest to the 01:28:09
people. 01:28:12
And I would agree with that. 01:28:16
So my question is. 01:28:18
Why when I ask the question and it was either August or September? 01:28:20
Regarding the 47 G and the aerospace. 01:28:25
And the drowns here in Vineyard. 01:28:29
The mayor looked at me with a smile on her face and said no, we are not planning that. 01:28:32
And yet these good people in the hall told us that the mayor has been at those meetings for over a year. 01:28:37
So did you sign an NDA mayor, that your assistants don't know what you're doing? 01:28:43
That's really concerning. 01:28:49
When you say. 01:28:51
That the best government is the government closest to people. 01:28:53
One more area I'd like to address tonight is the fact that. 01:28:56
This council, along with. 01:29:01
Very professional experts came up with a very creative way. 01:29:04
To deal with our fire department issue, a life saving need for Vineyard. 01:29:09
So for less than $2,000,000. 01:29:14
We are going to have what Vineyard needs. 01:29:17
And now you want us. 01:29:20
To sell our souls for 30 to 35,000,000 for a building that is not needed. 01:29:23
That you could get creative on. 01:29:31
We do not owe the developers of Utah City anything. And if they cannot? 01:29:34
Attract the economic development they need. 01:29:39
Without our. 01:29:42
Tax dollars. 01:29:44
Being hijacked for who knows how long. 01:29:45
Then we don't need it. We don't need it. We were clever and creative. 01:29:49
And came up with a reason, with a way to save the city money and still have a fire department. 01:29:54
Has still have been needs that we need the things that we need. 01:30:00
That are of a life saving nature. 01:30:04
Why do we have to spend that kind of money? 01:30:07
On a building. 01:30:10
That every time I turn around, the name is changing. You went from City Hall to. 01:30:11
Vineyard Center. Canal. The Civic Center. 01:30:16
I have a real problem and I'm not alone. Thank you. 01:30:19
Jane Pierce from Cascade Neighborhood. 01:30:40
I've seen several different renditions of. 01:30:43
Utah City, and one of them had a library that was freestanding. 01:30:47
And in the current. 01:30:51
Umm, pictures that I've seen of Utah City. 01:30:55
But there isn't any. 01:30:58
But we have been given some. 01:30:59
Um, some. 01:31:03
Um, square footage. 01:31:06
In the vineyards that are city center. 01:31:09
But I fear that that's going to be inadequate for what our needs are. 01:31:13
We currently have a population of. 01:31:17
21,000. 01:31:20
And with Utah City, it's definitely going to increase dramatically, maybe even double. 01:31:22
And with the square footage, now that's. 01:31:28
Allocated for the library, it's only. 01:31:34
2500 square feet. 01:31:37
But umm. For example, in Spanish Fork they have a population of. 01:31:41
42,000, which is what we anticipate will be in the future. 01:31:48
But their square footage for their library is. 01:31:52
45,000. 01:31:55
So we have a very, very small. 01:31:57
Umm, a small percentage of that. 01:32:01
Of less than 1/10 of that. 01:32:03
So my question to you, is there some way that we can? 01:32:05
Find more square footage for. 01:32:10
Our library. 01:32:13
Can I ask a clarifying question? Do you say that they have 45,000 square feet or 4500 they have for their library? It's 45,500. 01:32:15
And 50 square feet. 01:32:25
And their population is of 42,000. 01:32:26
OK, so. 01:32:32
Thank you. 01:32:34
Thank you. 01:32:35
Is there another? 01:32:38
OK, I'm going to close public comments. 01:32:42
Thank you for that. I am going to address a few things. 01:32:45
David, you mentioned the treatments and the warranty and you mentioned a few locations where you've noticed some issues. 01:32:48
There is probably a process that our engineer could. 01:32:57
Discuss about what we expect to see. 01:33:01
And then talk to you about your questions about warranties. So if you want to leave your names and just your questions, let's go 01:33:04
ahead and we'll have that follow. Daria, you mentioned the pavement repair you mentioned. 01:33:10
What? 01:33:17
Roundabout falling apart? I also think that you should put your name down and talk to Nasim about this as well. I can give an 01:33:18
example of my roundabout where the streets are slipping off and you can watch it with how they were built originally that may have 01:33:25
needed to be redone in earlier areas. I think it's a different problem. Some of it has to do with weather, but I'm not the expert. 01:33:32
So talking to Naseem about it so that we can make sure to address it and if you're seeing it. 01:33:39
It would be really beneficial if you could report where you are seeing it so that we can address it if we're not noticing it, but 01:33:47
we're trying to pay close attention to that. 01:33:52
Let's see, Karen, you mentioned a question that you have for me and I believe the question actually for 47 G revolved around a 01:33:58
grant from the federal government that the city had a contract for a donating land from the community. I can go back and read the 01:34:04
minutes. 01:34:10
OK, I will. I'll go back and read it and I'll address the question that. 01:34:18
And the difference between it. 01:34:22
And for the question that I'm addressing and stating when you asked me the questions as I understood it. 01:34:24
It's that we were not involved in that. We don't own any land that we're donating. We don't have any contracts and there was no 01:34:31
money coming. Now, how are we involved? I think that is important. It was so good to have them tonight. And where Vineyard has a 01:34:37
voice at the table, it's with all advanced air, mobility and aerospace. 01:34:44
With Provost Airport just expanding by $70 million and going to 18 gates. 01:34:51
One of the things that we've cared about and Vineyard a long time is how do we want to see the airspace happen in Vineyard? How do 01:34:56
we want to hear the noise? How do we want to see the Delta expand and that's where they fly over and there's radioing that's 01:35:03
happening. What does that look like for us in Vineyard? We decided. 01:35:09
At this table, we decided how important it was to be there. We also know that the state is moving ahead with a lot of this 01:35:15
transportation, so we wanted to obtain those seats because we understand that corridors are being considered and looked at, and 01:35:21
for Vineyard because we are a Greenfield site. 01:35:27
And we're building, we want to make sure that growth happens the way that we shape it and that it doesn't happen to our community. 01:35:33
And that's become very critical for us. So when it says, I've been at those meetings and I've been watching and I've been making 01:35:39
sure to advocate and I've been bringing it back and I'm bringing you here, that's exactly what I'm talking. That's, that's what 01:35:45
they were saying. They're saying you are here talking about how Vineyard wants to see it. For instance, we have a hospital 01:35:51
corridor and we need. 01:35:57
Helicopters. So there's other areas, there's other businesses that don't necessarily need helicopters. 01:36:03
But for Vineyard, we do so our zoning is different. So what is that life saving facility look like? 01:36:10
What does it look like when our partners are working with drones? And so at the forefront, we want to make sure the vineyards 01:36:15
voice is heard. What are helipads going to look like? What is a heliport going to look like? What is the state legislation saying? 01:36:22
What are our ordinances doing? And so that's where our voices at the table. And in that regard, that is why we're part of 47 G. 01:36:29
That is one aspect of why we're part of 47 G. That's one of the aspects of why we sit on the committees with you, Doug. 01:36:36
So that is where I'll answer that. You also mentioned we need to get creative and I like where you're going with this because we 01:36:44
did get creative with our fire station. And one of the things that we did was we invested money. 01:36:50
Into a study that allowed us to reduce the amount that we were paying to create a location for fire. 01:36:57
And when we talk about necessity and need, our city is growing. We talked about just getting to Jane just mentioned how we are 01:37:05
getting to this population where we need a fire station here. 01:37:11
And we need this partnership here and that also means we need the staff to be able to take care of the roads for the people that 01:37:17
are coming and still continuing to grow and. 01:37:23
It's becoming a need and it's not just our fire, and we love our fire, but we know our fire needs it. 01:37:29
Our our sheriff's need it. 01:37:35
Our staff needs it. 01:37:38
And so. 01:37:40
That is part of the entire story and it's not one group. 01:37:43
It's every group, and So what are we doing that's creative? 01:37:47
And I like that you brought it up because I mentioned it last time that we get creative and we plan to be creative. 01:37:51
And and I'll jump to that on James Point with the library because we also got creative there, which puts us in a different mindset 01:37:57
for the library. But here we have this ability to do leasing and shared partnerships. And so you have buildings in other places 01:38:04
like Santa Quinn or Provo or Orem and they have a City Hall. But what we're doing is right now we're split up in these little. 01:38:12
Locations as we grow so quickly to say we're going to grow and we're going to do it as fiscally conservative as possible. And now 01:38:19
OK, we're going to go and we're going to jump to the downtown where we're getting land donated to us. So it's not that they owe 01:38:26
us. They're actually giving us something so that we can get creative, we can build a building and potentially. 01:38:33
Umm, if at all. If we. 01:38:41
Vote later down the line to do the bonding and move forward with the project. We're creating a situation. 01:38:43
Where we are inserting ourselves into a building that has multiple partnerships to reduce the burden. 01:38:48
On the taxpayer, that's how we're getting creative right now. 01:38:55
And so when we talk about. 01:38:58
Why? Why the name? And I'm going to bring it up and it's because the name. 01:39:01
Was something that we were talking about with our needs, but when you have leasing partners and shared people who own the building 01:39:06
with you, it's a joint facility because we got creative. So while we're talking about our needs, when we're really coming to the 01:39:11
table and saying what? 01:39:16
What does this building look like and what do we call it? The center was a discussion that came as we're phasing out the projects 01:39:21
and the why why we bring it to the public is because as we. 01:39:26
Move along in the process. We continue to give that new name or that process to the public so that you can digest it and see it 01:39:32
and know the creativity that's happening here. So we'll go to the library. We're going to look at those numbers and we're going to 01:39:38
consider them. But Eric mentioned something about the library, and it's conceptual right now, and I'll talk a little bit about the 01:39:43
library. That's how it got started. 01:39:48
Some cities invest heavily into building a library. 01:39:54
And we are new and growing very fast. And So what we did was we created a volunteer library. 01:39:59
When I was running the youth council, we went around and we grabbed. 01:40:06
10,000 or so books from all of the residents in the area and we got a donation because we were creative then from the front office 01:40:08
of the other building as we were transitioning. 01:40:13
And we have a very small building. 01:40:17
And we got some donations and it was all done based on donation. 01:40:19
And then we were able to grow enough. 01:40:23
To get a line item to have somebody come in and. 01:40:26
Expand it a little bit more and so our. 01:40:30
Opportunity to become an actual library that qualified. We got the brick and mortar, we got the Wi-Fi, we got there's some 01:40:34
qualifications at the state that once you qualify for that. 01:40:39
Then you can get in grant money or whatever the funding is that comes from either the state or wherever it's coming from private 01:40:45
donors at a different level, which other libraries are experiencing. When you invest a lot of money, you get more money in return 01:40:52
because you qualify. And So what happened was they were able to get that money, but now that we're at this place, we'll we'll see 01:40:59
those dollars coming a little bit more because we'll have a different match. But the reason I mention Eric's concept. 01:41:07
Is because. 01:41:14
We are going through the architect engineering and the LRB study. So we don't actually know if the library will remain in that 01:41:16
building. It will it will expand in here with our police, if it will expand in the rec facility that is potentially planned for 01:41:22
the future in Gammon Park or how those shape out. 01:41:29
But I promise you that as we go through it, we will bring it back to you and we will keep in mind the numbers that you talked 01:41:35
about. There are good people on it. 01:41:39
And with that. 01:41:43
I'm gonna go ahead and ask the Council if you have any important updates and then we'll close the meeting. 01:41:45
Brent, I'm going to start with you. 01:41:51
Perfect. I've I've got three things that I wanted to. 01:41:53
Mention umm. 01:41:55
One I was able to go to the Orem Fire Department Awards. 01:41:56
Gala, which was amazing. 01:42:01
And I just want to say thank you so much for allowing. 01:42:04
Me to be there and. 01:42:09
Hear the stories. 01:42:11
That uh, uh. 01:42:13
Of the amazing work that that you do. 01:42:15
And the and the how grateful I am to the men and women of the fire department who service our community. 01:42:18
And how much they care and are willing to. 01:42:24
Sacrifice their own time. 01:42:28
And, umm. 01:42:31
Risk themselves. 01:42:32
For our own safety. 01:42:34
The the second item I had was well, and I'll just add to your item. It was an incredible event and extremely touching. And we have 01:42:37
one of you here today. So thank you for being here with us. 01:42:42
It really was some of those stories. It's it's one of those where I think about my love affair with cheese in my couch. 01:42:48
And I'm so glad. 01:42:54
That there are people who don't have that problem. 01:42:58
That are willing to do that kind of work so that I don't have to. 01:43:01
Umm, all right, my second item is how grateful I am to. 01:43:05
Staff and the council for their patients with the work that we're doing on the scope of conduct. 01:43:12
We had initially committed that we would be prepared. 01:43:17
Having done. 01:43:22
Some public comment period with a draft that we could. 01:43:24
Discuss and vote on tonight and we missed that deadline, so I'm super grateful for the patients in letting us work through that. 01:43:29
And lastly, I'm also grateful to. 01:43:37
The mayor in. 01:43:41
In the city manager for allowing me to be part of, I raised the concern. 01:43:44
As we are entering the RDA meeting about. 01:43:49
Being able to digest the financial analysis that. 01:43:52
LRB was doing on our behalf. 01:43:56
That that that can be very difficult for us to. 01:43:59
Receive Digest. Understand. 01:44:03
And then actually make a good decision on that. 01:44:07
And in light of that, they allowed me to be part of a meeting. Yesterday. There was a working session with LRB. 01:44:12
Where they were going through in a lot more detail, some of what we were looking at earlier this evening. 01:44:21
And that allowed me one to digest it, but also to then consult with other council members and give them some things that they 01:44:26
could look at and learn about. 01:44:32
So that they could more better understand. 01:44:37
The presentation. 01:44:40
And what it actually means in terms of the potential financing for? 01:44:42
The Vineyard Center. 01:44:46
And I think that's all we got. 01:44:48
Perfect. 01:44:50
OK, I just have a few things to. 01:44:53
The grocery store brown rice. 01:44:56
Ground breaking was this morning. There's a news article that shows it's with the Daily Herald. You guys should look it up. It's 01:44:58
really exciting. We're really. 01:45:02
We've really all been looking forward to this grocery store, so we're excited to move forward. 01:45:07
Just we've been continuing meeting with the new the. 01:45:12
Interlocal school district discussing legislation and that's all still. 01:45:16
I'll bring you results as soon as they come. 01:45:21
And then the voting precinct lines for the. 01:45:24
District school board members. 01:45:29
Has also. They've broken it down to two maps that they'll be finalizing I think. 01:45:31
Either this week or next very soon, so there's a little survey going around. If you can't find it, I know it's shared on our 01:45:37
community page, but if you don't see it, you're welcome to reach out to me and I can get you the link. 01:45:43
And then also. 01:45:50
Just something fun was today I was able to attend the active transportation plan and wayfinding. 01:45:52
Where they invited our external partners like developers you dot. 01:45:58
I Utah Elizita. 01:46:03
Uta, UVU. 01:46:05
Anyway, it was great. For those of you that might not know, we are working on our active transportation plan. There's been some 01:46:07
wonderful progress there. As they make more progress, they will present it to the planning. Oh, that. 01:46:14
The ATC Active Transportation Commission. 01:46:20
And then also the Planning Commission and then to the City Council. But throughout that process, they're also going to be doing 01:46:23
town halls. 01:46:27
And so this will give you a chance to participate in. 01:46:31
Umm, picking out areas in the city that maybe need better crossings, better trails, better bikeways, pathways. 01:46:35
Cross Jersey crossings and. 01:46:43
Also, the wayfinding, for those of you that might not know wayfinding is we're trying to create signs to help people understand 01:46:46
directions and distances. 01:46:51
As they come to the city, if they're new or if they're just trying to plan out their day, so really exciting stuff, Keep an eye 01:46:55
out for that town hall. 01:46:59
Open house that we're going to be having where you can. 01:47:03
Share your thoughts. 01:47:07
Sarah um. 01:47:10
So. 01:47:14
Spending time up. 01:47:16
That the LPC, the legislative. 01:47:18
Review with the utility. 01:47:21
Again, they were they were talking about the similar thing, the same things they were talking about the week before, but. 01:47:23
It's really. 01:47:28
Umm, it's really interesting and it's been really good for me to watch. 01:47:31
Because you hear so many things. 01:47:35
Online of corruption and things and and to go in and watch how many people. 01:47:38
Are working really hard to do the right thing and how many checks and balances there are. 01:47:43
In place. I've actually been really impressed to be honest. 01:47:49
So I'm, I'm just going to share a little story with you. 01:47:58
Years ago, I'd wake up and I'd listen to talk radio over and over and over again. 01:48:02
Every day and I hear all of the horrible things happening in our country. 01:48:06
And I'd be like, Oh my gosh, this is. 01:48:10
But the worst How can people do this kind of thing right? 01:48:12
And then I had kind of a. 01:48:16
And many revelation, I guess, and. 01:48:21
And it sounded like this. 01:48:24
How many of these things that you listen to all day, every day that upset you actually affect? 01:48:26
Your life today. 01:48:32
And when I when I did a review, there really wasn't anything. 01:48:34
And and listening to the upset. 01:48:38
Over and over and over again. 01:48:41
Stop my ability to enjoy my day with my kids. 01:48:43
So I just want to share. 01:48:47
That seeing the checks and balances and seeing how many people worked so hard. 01:48:50
To do the right thing. 01:48:55
Is more common than what you would realize. 01:48:57
And. 01:49:00
If I've learned nothing more. 01:49:02
Than that from this being in this position. 01:49:05
I'm grateful for that and. 01:49:09
Yeah. I just wanted to share. 01:49:12
Because I'm. 01:49:15
We're doing pretty good. 01:49:16
We're doing pretty good. We live in the most amazing country. 01:49:18
And the freedoms that we have and the people fighting to protect those freedoms. 01:49:21
Are ongoing all the time. 01:49:25
And yeah, I want to share that. 01:49:28
Thank you. 01:49:30
Yeah, I just wanted to briefly introduce the City manager's report for the month of January. It's 5 pages long. 01:49:33
It's posted on the agenda, so I would encourage everyone to look at it. 01:49:41
Are two interesting points that are the 1st about two points on that list. 01:49:44
Our staff were able to recruit $45,000 in sponsorship to this this year. 01:49:51
Which is 5000 over the goal that we had set. So super exciting and great work on the part of Anna and others. 01:49:57
I also wanted to mention that. 01:50:04
We did a trial at the end of. 01:50:06
Center St. to remove the dumpster. 01:50:10
Add a few more. 01:50:12
Large garbage cans to try to address the. 01:50:14
The over. 01:50:18
Collection of materials that we're ending up there mattresses and. 01:50:20
We had. 01:50:25
In a scene showing up late at night on a weekend just to clean it all up and haul it out. 01:50:26
Elsewhere so that it wasn't such an eyesore and it was becoming a problem and so we have tried. 01:50:31
Removing that and putting those garbage cans and so far it has been excellent. We're going to try it a little longer. 01:50:37
And then we will probably have the Council. 01:50:44
The council decided to put that dumpster down there. 01:50:47
And so we will have you undecide that if it turns out to be the best option. So yeah. And just to update, why? 01:50:50
The difference that Eric is stating is that there was a trash bin that was there and there was mass dumping. 01:50:57
In the wetlands, yeah. 01:51:06
And we were. 01:51:08
The citizens came out and asked for a solution and one of the recommendations was to do a larger dumpster and what we found was a 01:51:09
reduction. 01:51:14
Of dumping in the wetlands, which was phenomenal and a. 01:51:18
An upset of dumping in the street. 01:51:23
Umm, so the new plant or the change was to put trash bins in various areas along the trail, right? And we have staff that is that 01:51:26
is going down there every day. 01:51:32
And removing that and throwing it in our city dumpsters. 01:51:39
As needed, and so that it's just a, we increase the the. 01:51:44
Oversight of that area. So we've grown, we've increased the oversight. That's always an additional cost. 01:51:48
Often takes away from other things. So when summer jobs pick up and all of a sudden we have lots going on, we might see a 01:51:55
difference to do a pilot a little bit longer for when the weather gets warmer and it changes the outcomes and we see where our 01:52:00
service options. 01:52:06
What they really look like and where that. 01:52:12
This financial spot, I think that's why we're going to do that pilot program a little bit longer and then? 01:52:14
Then you can have a review. 01:52:20
For the public. 01:52:22
With that, I'll end. I'll encourage everyone to read the the report. There's super exciting things happening. 01:52:23
In the city. 01:52:28
Just in this last month alone. 01:52:29
Some really exciting things have taken place so. 01:52:32
Read it over and let us know at our next meeting if you had any questions about it. 01:52:34
Perfect. And if everybody, I don't believe I missed anything, we jumped around all over. So if you're seeing anything. 01:52:38
I believe we continued. We don't have a closed session anymore on this one because we did it before everybody did the reports. 01:52:45
Public comments, work session. OK. With that I will adjourn. Thank you for staying with us along tonight. 01:52:53
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All right, we're going to go ahead and start our Vineyard City Council meeting. It's still February 12th, 2025, and the time is 00:00:02
7:00. 00:00:06
And I'm doing a little bit of an adjustment to our schedule. I apologize for all of the adjustments for those that are presenting. 00:00:11
Thank you for your patience with us. 00:00:15
We're going to move to appointments. 00:00:19
I'm wondering if you could raise your hand if Cindy Walker. 00:00:21
Cameron Searson or Stephanie Scott are in the room. 00:00:25
Come up to the microphone if you're here. 00:00:29
And state your name and introduce yourself. 00:00:35
I am Stephanie Scott and I'm going to be working with the youth, the Vineyard Youth Council. 00:00:39
OK. And I think your daughter served as my daughter was the mayor yesterday. I have 3 kids in the program right now, so I 00:00:45
volunteered with it for at least. 00:00:48
Four years since I know I'm going to run in. 00:00:52
So awesome, thank you so much for volunteering. 00:00:55
I'm actually so we're going to start with you. So I need I'm going to. 00:00:57
Does anybody have any questions for Stephanie? Otherwise, I'm just going to ask for a motion. I just want to comment that my son 00:01:03
has worked with you a little bit, worked with your kids, really. And he's, he will be so excited to hear. Yeah, I'm excited. It's 00:01:07
a fun program. Yeah. Thank you so much. 00:01:12
All right then, can I get a motion? 00:01:16
I move to approve the appointment of. 00:01:22
Stephanie Scott, right? 00:01:25
Right. Can I get a second? 00:01:27
Do I need to clarify to the Youth Council? 00:01:29
Sure. 00:01:32
The youth Council Co advisor is what she is approving my recommendation for. Can I get a second? Second by Brett? All in favor, 00:01:33
aye. 00:01:38
All right, thank you so much. Thanks for being here, thanks for volunteering, and we're so excited and happy to have you parents 00:01:43
that you designed some papers afterwards. You're going to stay right here, so for a second. Okay, if I can. 00:01:49
Thank you so much. Yeah, thank you. I'm going to combine 7.1 and 7.2. 00:01:56
And 7.4. 00:02:03
So. 00:02:05
Cindy Walker, she is incredible. 00:02:06
Julia with Communities that Care Commission has recommended Cindy Walker. 00:02:08
If you guys. 00:02:15
Have any questions about the process? Julia can be here tonight. She's a wonderful person. She's been really dedicated and working 00:02:16
with communities that care. And so they're really looking forward to having Julie, I mean, Cindy, be a part of that Cameron's. 00:02:24
Severson or Severson? And sorry if I said your last name wrong, just know you by Cameron, you're not here tonight, but he is 00:02:31
really excited about being with the active Transportation Commission. 00:02:36
I was able to talk to him for a minute. Anthony, one of our planners, had the opportunity to put him to interview him and he's 00:02:42
very excited to serve the community and he's been very actively involved, similar to Stephanie. And so we're just excited for his. 00:02:49
On dedication to serve. 00:02:56
And then as far as council appointments, I have delivered all of your council appointments to you. 00:02:58
I do not have them before me, but what we will do is we'll post them on a website and so each of you know your council 00:03:04
appointments and if you feel comfortable with them, I'm just going to ask for a motion on 7.17 point 2 and 7.4. 00:03:11
I move to approve 7.17 point 2 and 7.4. OK I have a first by Marty to approve 7.17 point 2 and 7.4. 00:03:18
I just want to clarify, are we on the? 00:03:27
Maybe I have an old version of the agenda, but it looks like these are 8 point. 00:03:29
8183. 00:03:35
Maybe you have a newer version and I have an older version. 00:03:37
If there are other numbers, what are the numbers that you have, Eric? 00:03:41
I see it online 8.18.2 and 8.48.18.2 and 8.4. That means that the last one was 8.3. 00:03:46
Mayor, would it be more appropriate for us to approve our council appointments after we've seen them? 00:03:55
You have seen them. 00:04:00
Well, I haven't seen everyone else's. 00:04:01
And you accepted them. 00:04:04
Eric hasn't. Do you want to pull him off and read them? 00:04:05
You could maybe move ahead. 00:04:15
And approve the camp, those others. But give me one second. 00:04:16
I moved to approve 8.1 and 8.2 as presented. Great, I have a first time ready. Can I get a second? 00:04:21
Second. Second by Brett, all in favor. 00:04:27
Aye, all right. 00:04:30
We will wait on 7 or 8.4. 00:04:33
Yeah, sorry about that. There might have been a formatting error, That's OK. 00:04:44
Everybody has technical issues. We can all get past it and read those numbers out loud so. 00:04:48
I told Pam she jinxed me when she kept asking me. That's it. That was what she did. 00:04:54
That's good. 00:05:00
While we're waiting, we'll go ahead and approve the consent items. Can I get a motion? 00:05:15
Right here, but let's check our numbers. 00:05:23
7.1. 00:05:28
So 7.1. 00:05:31
I move to approve the consent items as present, item as presented. All right, we have the first by Sarah. Can I get a second? 00:05:34
Second. Second by Marty on favor. 00:05:42
Aye, thank you. What we're going to do is we're going to ahead and talk about 8.1. 00:05:45
So we have an opportunity to have this in a work session tonight, but it's been asked by Council Member Clausen to move 8.1 to the 00:05:50
next meeting, which is where we would make a decision. 9.19 point one. Thank you. So can I go ahead and get a motion to move that 00:05:56
item even though we'll be discussing it in the work session? 00:06:02
Brett, do you want to make that motion? 00:06:12
Yes, yes, I moved a bit to postpone that the. 00:06:14
Next meeting. 00:06:18
Like our next regular scheduled meeting is where we'll move that to. Brett made the motion to continue it. Can I get a second, 00:06:19
second, second by Marty? All in favor, Aye, aye. 00:06:24
Excellent. 00:06:29
Let's see, well, why don't we go ahead and come back to the other item and we'll go ahead and start in our work session. 00:06:30
We're going to start with you dot. 00:06:37
Paul, I'm going to invite you to the microphone. 00:06:39
And he is the Advanced Air Mobility program manager. 00:06:42
With U dot. 00:06:47
Tony is gonna pull up his slide. 00:06:49
Just a minute. 00:06:52
While we wait for that, we're going to go back to the other items while you stand here. 00:06:54
Just gonna play this game so that we can keep moving. 00:06:59
OK, so we have. 00:07:03
Marty Sipuentez. 00:07:06
Sustainability, income and conservation. 00:07:08
Communities that care. 00:07:12
Program. 00:07:13
Bike Commission. 00:07:15
Economic Committee. 00:07:17
Alpine School District. 00:07:19
And homelessness. 00:07:21
Alternative. 00:07:23
I'm sorry, I'm out of breath. 00:07:24
Sarah Camerons appointments. 00:07:27
Emergency Management. 00:07:29
Air quality initiatives. 00:07:32
Advancing technology. 00:07:34
Legislative Policy Committee. State housing affordability task force. 00:07:36
Library board take care away. 00:07:42
Homeowners association meetings and code enforcement. 00:07:45
Transportation. 00:07:49
Slash parking. 00:07:51
And seniors? 00:07:53
Brett. 00:07:56
Arts Commission. 00:07:57
Youth Council. 00:07:59
Shoreline, Utah Lake Authority. 00:08:00
Alternative. 00:08:04
Tourism. 00:08:06
EUV Alternative. 00:08:10
It's explore Utah Valley, but tourism is in quotes so that we understand OK. 00:08:12
Parks and trees. 00:08:18
Finance and privacy. 00:08:21
Planning Commission. 00:08:24
Perfect and. 00:08:26
Get healthy Utah. OK, Can we go ahead and approve those appointments today? 00:08:29
Can I get a motion? 00:08:35
Does everybody feel comfortable with the appointments that were stated? 00:08:45
OK. Sarah, you said yes, so I feel like that's a motion. 00:08:49
I moved to approve the mayor's appointments. 00:08:53
Perfect. Second a second, a first by Sarah, second by Marty. All in favor? Aye aye. 00:08:56
Perfect. All right, Paul, you're up. 00:09:01
Perfect. 00:09:03
Thank you mayor, council members and city attorney. 00:09:05
My name is Paul Damron. I work with Udot's Division of Aeronautics. 00:09:08
I'm not a lot of people know, but the UDOT does have a Division of Aeronautics WE. 00:09:12
Manage all of our 46 airports. 00:09:17
Through federal funding, capital improvement projects, we also. 00:09:21
Have a few airplanes. 00:09:25
Maintenance crew that maintains them. 00:09:28
We've got an engineer on staff, 1212 full time members that make up our office. 00:09:30
And so I know a lot of people probably don't know that, but. 00:09:37
Anyway, I'm the Advanced Air Mobility Program Manager which is fairly new to UDOT a new position but we have been doing. 00:09:40
Work in this for about 10 years now. 00:09:48
Most of you are familiar with drones. 00:09:51
There's this evolution that I work with of trying to figure out how drones should. 00:09:54
Operate within the state. 00:09:59
And then all the way up to what we'll talk about today, which is aircraft that can carry passengers. 00:10:01
That look like a car as you can see. 00:10:08
It doesn't look like a helicopter. 00:10:12
They are umm. 00:10:14
New forms of technology and aviation that have come together to. 00:10:16
Help support advanced aviation SO. 00:10:20
And I'm gonna have Tony today be my copilot. 00:10:23
He'll be working the. 00:10:25
The slides for me sit. Go ahead. 00:10:27
What I want to do is I want to paint a picture at the state level of what what we're doing and how we how we're supporting this 00:10:29
cause and how. 00:10:33
Communities like yours can can feel at ease. 00:10:38
As maybe the there's a buzzword going around, moving around. 00:10:41
Throughout throughout the state of advanced air mobility and so. 00:10:45
What we've done is we we work really close with our legislators. We have a handful of them that are very interested in helping 00:10:48
support events and mobility. 00:10:52
They work with us to understand what are some of the things we should be looking for, what are the some of the things we should 00:10:57
study. 00:11:01
U dot, as we know, is in charge of moving people. 00:11:04
That's our business, moving people safely and efficiently. 00:11:08
We look at different modes of transportation and in my opinion and through our office and you dot as a whole. 00:11:11
Air travel would be a new mode of transportation that we can move people around the state. 00:11:19
I also connect. We have a discussion during the break. 00:11:24
Also moving people around in a regional sense to getting getting individuals to surrounding states more efficiently. 00:11:28
And So what we, what we've done is back in 2021. 00:11:36
Senator Harper requested us to do a study on what does the. 00:11:40
Infrastructure and a regulatory piece of advanced air mobility look like. What should it look like? What could it look like? 00:11:45
And as I mentioned, what things that Udon is in charge of, you know the the mode of transportation policy regulatory. 00:11:51
Issues. 00:11:59
When it comes up to this stuff and so. 00:12:01
The Utah study for UMM. 00:12:03
Implementing advanced mobility was kind of the tip of the. 00:12:06
I'd say the iceberg as it comes to the air travel for passengers. 00:12:10
Now there's an evolution of. 00:12:16
Crawl, walk, run, I like to say, and we're definitely in the crawl stage. So don't think we're tomorrow going to start seeing 00:12:20
these aircraft show up in the state. However, we are working closely with partners like 47 G to make that happen. 00:12:25
Umm, what? What we're doing is we're trying to to, to make sure we're not bringing the cart for the horse per se. 00:12:31
And that we're on the cutting edge and not the bleeding edge of this technology. 00:12:38
And so a lot of the things that we work with throughout the legislative branches is to make sure that we are confident as U dot. 00:12:42
In the things that we're trying to disperse and the information that we're giving out to the community and. 00:12:52
Towns and cities like like here so. 00:12:59
In 2022. 00:13:01
And I'm just going to breeze through these, but you guys will have this copy. 00:13:03
And you can reference it. 00:13:07
Umm, in 2022. 00:13:10
We saw some really exciting things happen here in Utah. There was two companies that wanted to start doing small package drone 00:13:12
deliveries. 00:13:16
I don't know if you. 00:13:21
Knew that, but in. 00:13:22
Linden and. 00:13:24
Harriman and also in. 00:13:26
West Jordan, there were two companies that were operating out of there. 00:13:28
They were able to understand their operational procedures and define a lot of things work with the FAA. 00:13:32
And they are moving on to different phases of their companies, their business. And they've not necessarily closed the door on 00:13:38
Utah, but they are. 00:13:43
Going to reevaluate some of the FAA regulations that. 00:13:47
That they're working through to understand how they can then successfully deploy back here in Utah. 00:13:51
Zip line is a company that started operating. 00:13:58
They work with Intermountain Health to get. 00:14:01
Prescription drugs out to their their clients. 00:14:05
Umm, I love the the model that they're doing. Zip line. 00:14:10
Actually proven this method out in other countries. 00:14:14
Providing medical support. 00:14:18
Defibrillators. Blood. 00:14:20
To places in Rwanda and other parts of. 00:14:23
Africa and other small countries and so. 00:14:26
They they looked at the United States as an opportunity to move into the market and they chose Utah to help determine that and 00:14:30
they were able to successfully. 00:14:35
Catapult their operations. 00:14:41
In a way that. 00:14:44
Is driving their success. 00:14:45
Next slide. 00:14:48
2023 We looked at registration for aircraft for Advanced Air mobility. 00:14:51
When I say advanced their mobility, I'm also talking about drones, so. 00:14:57
It all encompasses it all so. 00:15:00
Your recreational to your commercial small drones that your neighbors might have. 00:15:03
And there they are regulated by the FAA. 00:15:08
But we do have. 00:15:11
We started in 2023. 00:15:13
Some commercial aircraft registration discussions. 00:15:15
We defined what a vertical port is. A vertiport is like, it's like a heliport. It's where these aircraft will operate in and out 00:15:19
of. 00:15:23
I will let you know that we will be using existing infrastructure at our airports to for initial operations. 00:15:28
And as we work towards. 00:15:34
Venues like the Olympics will be strategically working with. 00:15:36
Our partners like 47 G to understand where those. 00:15:42
Should be placed for an event like that and and we're building an advanced air mobility platform, a system. 00:15:47
That's going to hopefully. 00:15:54
Be here for generations. 00:15:56
Like you see the Interstate, it's here for generations. We look at the Olympics and other events as as events that we can. 00:15:58
Umm educate the public and. 00:16:06
Support. 00:16:08
Those events, but knowing that. 00:16:10
Bigger picture at you got is to make sure that this is a very viable mode of transportation. 00:16:12
We addressed preemption of local ordinances regarding advanced mobility. Have had several conversations with the FA on this. 00:16:17
We understand our place when it comes to federal regulations. We will not be preempting what the FAA is has. 00:16:25
Mandated through their rules and code and so we will complement what they do have. 00:16:33
And industry helps us out. They let us know when we might be getting a little close. And so we appreciate the partnerships that we 00:16:38
do have. 00:16:41
We also looked at prohibiting cities from having an agreement to grant an exclusive use to avert for a company to operate those 00:16:46
reports. 00:16:50
We feel like that this is a free enterprise. 00:16:55
We don't want to silo certain other. 00:16:58
Innovations and opportunities. 00:17:02
When when this starts coming out. 00:17:04
Drone Up begins in 2023, so that was the other small Uas. 00:17:08
Package delivery company drawn up. 00:17:12
In 2024, drone registration rule was actually released for comments we worked through. 00:17:14
Tirelessly all year did a study to make sure that we were capturing everything that we needed. 00:17:20
And the rules actually just came out and. 00:17:26
Are affected as of January 1 of this year. We are developing the program right now to accept those drone registration. 00:17:29
And provide certificates to to those operators. 00:17:38
And this is. 00:17:41
Drone registration would be for anybody that's operating them commercially. 00:17:43
So there will be more information from office. 00:17:47
About that country of origin band, there's been a big. 00:17:51
A big. 00:17:56
Push to make sure that we are working with the right. 00:17:58
Countries that are developing these aircraft. 00:18:02
At a federal level, I saw saying that a federal level, there's issues with. 00:18:05
Certain countries that the FAA's. 00:18:09
Or the our federal partners are aware of and they're making sure that we're not capturing. 00:18:12
Critical information Sensitive data that could be used for other purposes than in what's intended so. 00:18:19
Aerospace lease laws, those are on the books. 00:18:29
We're not intending to do anything with those as of right now. 00:18:31
Land use protection for vertiports or any? Not just vertiports, but any land use protection policy for any. 00:18:35
Aviation facility, we feel that it's very important that the ground around these airports and verdict ports are. 00:18:41
Umm planned in a way that it helps support the. 00:18:48
The use of aviation. 00:18:53
We don't want a high riser to be built next to a vertiport. 00:18:55
It would defeat the purpose of that operation into that location. 00:18:58
And then Project Delta in 2024 was launched there. 00:19:02
Air Logistics and Transportation Alliance. 00:19:07
We're looking at different modes of this technology to help support an aviation to support medical use. 00:19:10
Cargo throughout the state. 00:19:17
Passengers. 00:19:20
And um. 00:19:21
Just the overall. 00:19:23
You know, transportation. 00:19:26
Encompasses a lot, so we're just trying to make sure we're capturing everything and project Alta. 00:19:27
Is partnered with 47G, Goeo, Inland Port and UDOT and then some private, private companies that are very interested in pushing 00:19:32
this forward so. 00:19:37
Go ahead, Tony. 00:19:43
Some current studies that we're doing right now, I'm just going to breeze through these is technology integration. What? 00:19:46
What technology do we need to help support this operation? 00:19:52
And we are finalizing, I mean, almost off the press, an economic impact study that will be made available and all of our studies 00:19:56
are available online. 00:20:00
But this economic impact study for advanced and mobility we're pretty excited about because it's showing. 00:20:05
US information, you know, 11,000 new jobs, $8.8 billion in business activity, 1.8 billion in additional tax revenues that would 00:20:10
come to the state. 00:20:14
And that's just if operations happen here now we've looked at. 00:20:18
Manufacturing, if there was a company that wanted to manufacture here, we've got numbers that support that as well and so. 00:20:23
I you know I'm here to stay and I know 47 G behind me will will mention this too, but our aviation and aerospace industry is very 00:20:30
alive and active. 00:20:34
In the state of Utah, we're excited. 00:20:39
I'm in charge of several working groups. Like I said, we're not just. 00:20:42
Throwing dart at the dart board and hoping it sticks where we want it to. We're actually. 00:20:47
Going through a very methodical process and making sure that. 00:20:52
Providing detailed information to the legislators to make those. 00:20:55
Informed decisions. 00:21:00
And these working groups are helping us do that. 00:21:02
Common concerns that we've found throughout the working group would be community outreach and education. That's at the top of the 00:21:06
list. 00:21:08
Each working group even though that they are not related to. 00:21:12
You know, tied to a community, they felt like community outreach was, was very important. 00:21:16
Enhancing existing infrastructure. 00:21:21
We have several heliports that are scattered throughout the state of Utah. They are all privately used. 00:21:24
There are no public. 00:21:29
Use of heliports in the state of Utah. So there needs to be some type of. 00:21:31
Study done to understand what they look like. What are the. 00:21:36
Conditions. 00:21:39
And could they be used to operate these aircraft And we're working with the guidance through the FAA on that type of stuff. 00:21:40
And then local zoning requirements. 00:21:48
I'll talk about that one here in a minute. 00:21:51
Or a second. 00:21:53
We have several partners. I mentioned 47 G we've we collaborate with over. 00:21:55
Just about 36 states at a multi state collaborative. 00:22:02
Group. We are one of the founding partners or states that support that collaborative. 00:22:05
We've got an MOU signed with Jump Arrow. Jump Arrow is a company that's developing and manufacturing a aircraft that will fly one 00:22:10
individual with paramedic. 00:22:15
Background. 00:22:19
Life saving skills. 00:22:21
To an individual or location. 00:22:23
And then they would get out and help. 00:22:25
Be like the first on scene. 00:22:28
And we felt like partnering with them would help us understand. 00:22:30
Throughout Utah, the need for. 00:22:34
This type of medical support. 00:22:37
Electric Aviation Subcommittee. 00:22:41
I'm a, I'm a part of that, the leadership group. 00:22:43
Aspire Senate Bill 125 a couple years ago was established. Carlos Braceras, the executive director, is the chairman of that. 00:22:46
Of you not. 00:22:54
He's the chairman of that. 00:22:55
And we're looking at how we can enhance. 00:22:56
The electrification system throughout all modes of transportation and aviation is one of those, and so we are coming. 00:23:00
Working together with Aspire out of Utah State University. 00:23:06
Help support that initiative and. 00:23:10
And I'll tell you why we're we're pushing so hard. 00:23:13
Next. So this year what we're trying to do is several things with that electrification. 00:23:16
Subcommittee. 00:23:22
Umm, the governor has budgeted $2,000,000 to help develop charging. 00:23:24
Stations at airports charging station would be one similar to the one that you see on that picture. 00:23:29
That aircraft is. 00:23:35
Rail it is not an. 00:23:37
An AI chat or. 00:23:39
Produced image. 00:23:43
That aircraft is being manufactured in Vermont. 00:23:45
And, umm. 00:23:48
It's pretty cool. 00:23:50
I mean, they're, they're really cool aircraft, not just because I'm. 00:23:52
I'm a student pilot and like to see aircraft, but it's really revolutionizing the way we're looking at and using. 00:23:55
Aviation for transportation but. 00:24:01
We're needing to identify what. 00:24:03
The The $2,000,000. 00:24:06
Won't go far, so we're trying to identify what. 00:24:09
Or what? What airports need that electrification first? 00:24:12
And it's being. 00:24:17
Talked about on the Hill right now, all of these things are Senate Bill 96. 00:24:19
Community outreach and education. 00:24:23
Campaign. 00:24:25
Is instructing this bill is instructing you not to develop that community outreach and education. 00:24:27
Campaign and work with stakeholders to get that done. 00:24:32
Advance their Mobility toolkit. This toolkit is going to help actually support. 00:24:36
Your city. 00:24:41
What it's intended to do is look at ways to. 00:24:42
Craft ordinances to help support this. 00:24:46
Or to support advanced air mobility. 00:24:51
I understand, I worked with a lot of different cities and they have no idea where to start. 00:24:54
They don't know what to do. In fact, some of them have just said. 00:24:57
You're not landing a helicopter. 00:25:00
In the in the vicinity of our city. 00:25:02
Well, this toolkit, while it's not recommended to use, we're not forcing you guys to use it, but it will provide a road map or 00:25:05
some opportunity to look at to say, hey, should we adopt this? Should we not? 00:25:11
And it is going to be authored by us. And so the research that's going to be done is going to be pretty heavy. 00:25:17
And then the funding of those electric charters, so. 00:25:22
Go ahead and go on, I think. 00:25:25
I'm going to skip through these. They're just images that can or videos that can actually be found. 00:25:27
Online, they're, like I said, they're pretty interesting. 00:25:33
But um. 00:25:37
We are working towards right now our next step. 00:25:38
Is working through cargo logistics. How can we? 00:25:41
And we're seeing a. 00:25:45
The manufacturers of these aircraft. 00:25:47
Moving that direction right now to. 00:25:50
To help adopt this type of aviation like. 00:25:53
I don't think if they just plot one of these. 00:25:57
Aircraft here in the middle of the state, people are going to line up to get, you know, get a ride. 00:25:59
And so I think being able to vet it out, demonstrate it, work with communities, work with the state and other stakeholders to help 00:26:04
understand what it is so. 00:26:08
I appreciate your time. 00:26:13
Those that's my end of my presentation. Do you guys have any questions? 00:26:14
I know I spoke fast. I wanted to get 47 G some time to. 00:26:20
To discuss the partnerships that we're working with, it's really good. Where's the best place to go online to find those videos? 00:26:23
So you can find. 00:26:30
I'll actually post this. I think I you'll have this, you'll have this presentation so you can get it off of that. 00:26:32
Yeah, Yeah, you can. They're they're public. They're public videos. Yeah. So thank you so much. This was such a good introduction 00:26:41
and really wanted to talk about what the states doing, where the partnership is. We've been able to work with you guys and have a 00:26:47
good voice at the state, which is great because we have that hospital corridor and all. 00:26:52
Already working. I mean you were talking about some of our partners and some of the zoning that we already have. So thank you and 00:26:57
that's a great read in for 47 G So I'll just invite you guys. 00:27:03
You guys up? 00:27:08
And I'll let you introduce yourselves. 00:27:10
So move it along. 00:27:12
Thank you. 00:27:15
Either way works fine. So if you guys already have it pulled up over there, yeah, give me just like 2 seconds. Let me pull it up. 00:27:17
OK, let's go. 00:27:21
If you could pull it up, that'd be great. 00:27:26
Good evening. Thank you so much for having us here. My name is Corianne Edwards and I am the Chief Strategy Officer for 47 G. 00:27:29
And with me, I have Chris Nuts. 00:27:37
And Ian Robertson and we're going to tag team this presentation just a little bit. 00:27:39
To talk about it. 00:27:45
Look at this great technology. 00:27:50
And Corean, you're the chief strategy officer. 00:27:56
That's what you said and. 00:27:59
And being is transferring to the academia and local government. But right now he's been, he's the director of critical materials. 00:28:01
So it'll make more sense if they give their presentation. I just don't want to. And Chris is our executive director for Project 00:28:09
Alpha. Yeah and he was part of the federal is it Aviation Administration is how you I normally just say FAA. So I was like, is it 00:28:15
aviation? Okay, former deputy administrator of the FBI. 00:28:21
Perfect, SO. 00:28:27
Very lucky to have you guys here. 00:28:28
See, I jinxed myself when I. 00:28:35
Just present, OK? 00:28:42
Thank you. 00:28:43
Doing that and being my. 00:28:45
Advancer. 00:28:48
And I'm going to go through this fast. I know it's been a long day, I'm sure for everybody and but I want to give you some good 00:28:49
information. 00:28:52
About 47 G. 00:28:56
And so we are the, as he's pulling this up, I'll just let you know we are the aerospace and defense. 00:28:58
Association and organization for the State of Utah. 00:29:05
And I'll just have the advance through that. 00:29:11
Our mission is to build the world's premier. I'm sorry, it's so weird having all of you behind me. 00:29:17
But to build the premier ecosystem for aerospace and defense companies. 00:29:23
In the world, and I'll talk through how awesome Utah is in this space in just a minute. 00:29:28
We bring together academia, institute service providers, government and just like. 00:29:34
You got here. 00:29:38
And community partners to foster talent, entrepreneurship. 00:29:40
Fuel innovation for America's deep, deep tech frontier. 00:29:44
A little bit about the organization. It was originally started two years ago and it was named the Utah Aerospace and Defense 00:29:49
Association. 00:29:52
Didn't love the name? You oughta. 00:29:56
And rebranded to 47 G. 00:29:58
Giving heritage, giving homage to our heritage and and some exciting things in the in the aviation space. 00:30:01
Also our last this last summer merged with the Utah Advanced Materials and Manufacturing also known as you AMI initiative to 00:30:08
really give a look at what 47 G is today. 00:30:14
Were or strengthening Utah's position in the aerospace, defense, cyber and advanced manufacturing space. 00:30:20
The exciting thing is, is all universities have seen value in this, especially in the workforce. 00:30:27
Component. So all of our universities are part of the 47G. 00:30:32
Partnership as well as many of our tech colleges and Salt Lake Community College from that and then working a lot of K12. 00:30:38
Thank you. We collaborate with just under 200 partners and members. 00:30:46
And really, the exciting thing about this is 47 G was asked to start by. 00:30:52
A lot of our primes, Martha, come and came to us and said it's time for Utah to have this voice. We've been dominated in this 00:31:00
field for a long time, but we don't have an industry voice. 00:31:04
Which started that working with great organizations like you have here, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Elfry, Harris, Beta Technologies 00:31:09
that that Chris will talk about a little bit and Fordham Technologies. 00:31:14
All in in the cool spaces of aerospace and defense. 00:31:20
Some of our focus areas, community and industry engagement. So really the collaboration of bringing the industry together in a 00:31:25
single voice market insight, where is the market going? Just as Paul talked about this advanced air and mobility, it's going to 00:31:31
change the game for aviation. 00:31:37
And and it's not. 00:31:43
It's not years out, it's now. 00:31:45
And it's going to change the game. So market insight, capital, connectivity, this has been typically an industry that hasn't a 00:31:47
lot. 00:31:51
A lot of capital investment in that. We're changing that space. 00:31:55
And and that's very exciting as capital is coming in to advance the technologies. 00:31:59
For this industry, we provide a lot of technical assistance, especially to our small businesses. 00:32:04
Supply chain, some other things like for Lockheed Martin here in your city. 00:32:09
Looking at what other supply chain needs and how can we connect them to all of our amazing Utah companies, they shouldn't be. 00:32:14
From a vendor in California when we probably got it right here in Utah, so really working with our industries to. 00:32:22
To expand that market economic development, which I know is a high priority for you. 00:32:27
Here and in the city and much more, we work a lot at the workforce development side of it. Talked about all of the university 00:32:33
partnerships. 00:32:37
With the merger of You Amy, they focus on advanced manufacturing and what that looks like. 00:32:42
The State of Utah has five targeted industries that bring the highest GDP to the state of Utah, and aerospace and defense and 00:32:49
advance manufacturing are two of those five. 00:32:54
Life sciences, IT, and financial services are the other ones. 00:33:00
So really taking advantage and and bringing the voice of such major industries. 00:33:05
In our state. 00:33:10
And then the national security and cyber defense of all of this really securing. 00:33:12
Utah's position as being part of our national security and defense system. 00:33:17
The numbers are extremely impressive. 47 G just released. It actually hasn't been publicly released. It'll be done this month, 00:33:23
but. 00:33:27
But the report came out and January talking about the economic impact for this study. All numbers that I will that you see here 00:33:32
are direct, indirect and induced. So the direct times the multiplier that comes with that with this industry about 1.9. 00:33:41
500 and 500,000 total job impact. 00:33:50
The industry employment grew 23.4% over the last five years outpatient outpacing the nation. 00:33:54
Wages and aerospace and defense rose by 31.1% over the last five years, outpacing both the nation and total wage growth in Utah. 00:34:01
Aerospace and defense industry, including critical supply chain and infrastructure, accounts for 19.2 of Utah's total GDP. There 00:34:10
isn't another industry sector that even touches that. 00:34:15
And Utah was the highest five year GDP growth in the nation among states for aerospace and defense. 00:34:22
About 61.9%. 00:34:30
And nearly 1.6 billion in direct annual tax and revenue. So it's a serious industry in the state of Utah and a serious industry 00:34:32
across the nation. 00:34:37
And this is that was the preservice, the lucky drone there that we saw there. 00:34:41
So cool. Vineyard is so primed and Mayor, you have been so um. 00:34:46
Visionary and and seeing the advantages in the aerospace and defense and and. 00:34:53
The defense technology that's that's happening and coming and you have been so engaged in this and and so visionary. 00:35:00
And and understanding this ecosystem and. 00:35:08
And working so hard to bring it to the New York City, some of the things that the Vineyard is really poised for and, and things 00:35:11
we've been working on is you have. 00:35:17
A lot of great land for growth and not everybody can say that. 00:35:22
I live in Weber County and we don't have much land left. 00:35:26
So you're lucky to have that opportunity just for the attraction of the growth. 00:35:29
What Provo is doing? 00:35:35
With their growth and and the expansion and the multi $1,000,000 projects. 00:35:37
That will be happening. 00:35:42
It's going to be a huge advantage here in Utah County and the post proximity to Vineyard is going to just play a critical role. 00:35:43
And what you're able to do and how you're going to connect that primarily ****. 00:35:51
From the hospital side of it to the to the people side of it, to the business side of it, you're just in such. 00:35:56
A great position and then use your whole multimodal connectivity that you have in veneer. It is really a secret sauce and 00:36:03
something special. 00:36:07
That is going to your vision for for doing all of this is going to in my opinion. 00:36:11
Give you generations and generations of of growth for your citizens and and families and everybody else that moves to Vineyard. 00:36:18
So with the front runner again the the Provo airport, future rail hubs. 00:36:26
And different things is just going to really have all that transportation connectivity that we've talked about with Paul here 00:36:34
today and and just the transportation. 00:36:38
Some really cool existing partners that are launching you into the space for Huntsman Cancer Institute with Paul's presentation 00:36:42
with advanced air mobilities and the drones and all the Med. 00:36:47
We can just see how that is going to be a massive game changer. 00:36:52
For you here in the city and how that's going to apply. 00:36:57
You know, Lockheed Martin being, you know, skunkworks and, and part of all of the defense tech that's happening, they're really on 00:37:00
the cutting edge here, right here in your community with a lot of our defense. 00:37:05
Pieces of this so you really have an advanced. 00:37:11
Industry already budding in in this community. 00:37:16
Beta Technologies is one of the electric aircraft that is part of Project Alta and part of all the great work that you have been 00:37:20
doing. 00:37:24
With Advanced air mobility and MLU 47G. 00:37:28
With the support of the Governor's Office of Economic Development and the Utah Department and you dot Utah Department of 00:37:33
Transportation. 00:37:37
With their letters of support, we were able to sign an MO U with Beta Technologies. They are building really the first aircraft, 00:37:40
these electric aircraft. 00:37:44
That will be coming. There's hope that the FAA will be certifying them soon. We can get the federal government settled down doing 00:37:49
good work, right? And Data Technologies is committed to. 00:37:55
To moving into Utah and operating out of here. So super with bringing operators here with their technologies. So, so excited. 00:38:01
This is really the 1st place they've looked out outside of their headquarters in Vermont, so. 00:38:10
Again, Utah has something special. And again, your mayor has been in the forefront of all that. She's been at all the meetings 00:38:15
with data. She's been having all of those conversations and just really seeing. 00:38:20
This vision and where this could go and, and, and thank you. 00:38:27
Mayor for for being part of the voice that's helped shape and evolve this UMM. 00:38:30
And Vineyard is definitely has a seat at the table. 00:38:35
For those pieces. 00:38:38
You know, Excel is such a global leader in our communities here in Utah and the connections that are happening there with Vineyard 00:38:40
City and then just your amazing access to higher education institution and the innovation districts you just really have. 00:38:47
This secret sauce and this building of this ecosystem that is going to be quite amazing already is amazing, but. 00:38:55
Just budding for for what's to come. 00:39:02
And so that was my last slide just to talk about these are the works that we've been doing at 47 G with the New York City to this 00:39:07
point. We've got a lot of exciting ideas for what's next and and what's to come. 00:39:13
I'm thankful for your council members. They've been very engaged. We've had counts to meet. They want to know what we're doing and 00:39:19
where all this is going and, and just appreciate your engagement. I'm just going to quickly turn it over to Chris to talk about 00:39:23
Project Alto a little bit more. 00:39:28
To just augment all the great things that that Paul said and then. 00:39:33
And then a question. Yep. And then we'll have Ian just talk about next steps. And so thank you with that. 00:39:39
Question. 00:39:45
We are. This is actually a discussion for the Council, but we might have time to open it after they're done. 00:39:48
So that's no, I can't ask a question about that. 00:39:55
The presentation is still going and so we might have time to open it. 00:39:58
And Corianne, thank you. It's nice because you also just came from Goyo, which is the government's Office of Economic Opportunity 00:40:04
and so. 00:40:08
My job at .7 G it's fun to have you, you know, be so deep into the space, but also talk about the economic advantages for a 00:40:12
community because. 00:40:17
Right now you mentioned the five strategic. 00:40:21
Kind of markets that the state is going after and we have the same ones in Vineyard as including a 6th 1, which is Agrotech as we 00:40:25
try to diversify the economic landscape of our community. And so this partnership is really meaningful and you highlighted that 00:40:32
very well. Go ahead, Chris, excited to hear from you. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you council members in the city attorney. 00:40:40
As well as the others in that are leading this city. 00:40:47
It's good to be with you again. 00:40:51
You've had a lot of information already delivered on advanced air mobility. It's essentially bringing electric aircraft, electric 00:40:53
aviation. 00:40:57
To the state of Utah. 00:41:01
In May of last year. 00:41:03
Governor Spencer Cox. 00:41:04
Stood in front of the state and and gave a mandate to all of us who work in aviation. 00:41:06
To implement. 00:41:12
Advanced air mobility prior to the Winter Olympics in 2034. 00:41:15
His. His. 00:41:20
Invitation for us to do that was in line with where technology is today. 00:41:22
It's not ahead of technology, it's right in lockstep with technology and I'll talk a little more about that as we press forward. 00:41:28
But in doing so. 00:41:35
He outlined the fact that we needed to. 00:41:36
Do as Paul suggested earlier. 00:41:39
And start. 00:41:42
Our crawl, walk, run. 00:41:43
In order for this not to be the novelty of the Olympics, but an. 00:41:45
Institutionalized infrastructure. 00:41:50
Supporting. 00:41:53
The transportation systems that support the Olympics. 00:41:54
So we're well on our way to do that. 00:41:57
As Corianne noted. 00:42:00
We took the current world leader in manufacturing of these electric aircraft and they have chosen Utah. 00:42:02
Who we are. 00:42:11
Our work ethic, our. 00:42:12
Integrity and our desire and vision for this. 00:42:14
And decided to make us the very first of its kind partnership. 00:42:18
For bringing electric aviation to a state in the country. So we are leading right now in that. 00:42:22
In fact, this aircraft, Aaliyah as it is called, will be visiting the state. 00:42:28
Within the next month. 00:42:34
We will get information to you about how you can actually see it operational. 00:42:36
And step into it, touch it, see how it operates. 00:42:43
It is the future of aviation. 00:42:49
These aircraft are moving forward. The technology is being proven. Utah will be a proving ground for this technology as part of 00:42:51
our partnership. 00:42:57
They will. 00:43:02
Continue to work with the FAA as we have continued to partner with the FAA to make sure that we understand the regulatory 00:43:04
environment and what will be required. 00:43:08
To certify these aircraft so that they operate. 00:43:13
Safely, uh. 00:43:16
And securely. 00:43:17
And financially in a financially viable way. 00:43:19
And so that's our commitment to doing this and there's a four phased approach that we have. 00:43:23
To bringing these aircraft. 00:43:28
Umm, we started a couple of years ago as. 00:43:30
Paul mentioned. 00:43:34
With drone activities with and we look to expand those drone activities. 00:43:36
What he didn't mention was zip lines. 00:43:41
Clientele or more than 400 customers a day that they deliver to. 00:43:44
In the South Jordan area. 00:43:48
And they do so with waivers from the FAA that allow them to safely operate. 00:43:50
When we learn that that is taking place and then it's been taking place in a safe. 00:43:56
And efficient way. 00:44:01
I think some of us are surprised. 00:44:02
That advance their mobility is to that level already. 00:44:04
And they'll be changing out their aircraft, they'll be changing their operating norms, but others will be stepping in. 00:44:07
But along our 4 phases. 00:44:14
We will be doing various use cases. We will go from small package delivery, which is currently what exists. 00:44:17
Into cargo delivery, whether that be small cargo to larger cargo, then we've got first responder capabilities. 00:44:24
Will have avalanche mitigation. 00:44:33
Will have firefighting capabilities that will all be supported by these advanced air mobility measures. 00:44:36
Then we'll have more medical, whether that be life, flight or whether that be. 00:44:42
Moving people from a rural area. 00:44:47
In a more effective way to medical attention. 00:44:49
As we know in some of our. 00:44:53
Our tribal communities, for example, you can be very rural. 00:44:56
And have a medical situation that becomes much more risky because of the inability to quickly maneuver and that cost effective way 00:45:00
to maneuver. So these electric aircraft. 00:45:06
The motor for the beta aircraft. 00:45:13
Whom were delighted to be as partners. Has 23 parts. 00:45:15
It is not a combustion engine, so the price to operate these vehicles. 00:45:20
Is 140th of that of the A. 00:45:25
Helicopter. 00:45:28
And the noise that it makes is one 100th of that of an existing helicopter. 00:45:29
And so when you have no combustion parts, your need for maintenance and. 00:45:35
And overhaul is reduced significantly lowering those costs. 00:45:40
And the more the aircraft can stay in motion, the cheaper that. 00:45:44
Operation becomes. 00:45:49
And it becomes to the point where this is not a replacement for helicopters. 00:45:51
It is the new way. 00:45:56
Of commuting. It is the new way of moving. 00:45:58
Cargo and. 00:46:02
Infrastructure around. 00:46:04
So in those continued phases, we move into the use cases for passengers. 00:46:05
There will be onward. 00:46:12
Passenger travel where an individual may want to get all the way to Park City. 00:46:13
From Birmingham, AL and take passenger aircraft to to the. 00:46:19
Location of a. 00:46:23
Of a vertiport and then take onward travel being electric aviation to a smaller community. 00:46:25
Some of the others would be on demand air taxis. 00:46:32
Tourism, as Paul mentioned, down to our. 00:46:36
Our beautiful national parks. 00:46:39
But it will also eventually evolve into as the battery capabilities last longer. 00:46:41
The aircraft sizes will increase and you'll start to see commuter options. 00:46:47
Much like the. 00:46:53
Passenger ferry operations that you see in the Puget Sound. 00:46:55
In the Seattle area. 00:46:59
Where the consumer has a choice. 00:47:01
To either circumnavigate the Puget Sound to get to Seattle or to take a ferry these. 00:47:04
That is the vision of these lower costs. 00:47:11
High operating capability aircraft. 00:47:14
And so we're moving forward smartly. We don't want this to be the novelty. 00:47:17
Of the Winter Olympics, we want it to be. 00:47:22
The institutional answer to those things. 00:47:24
The aircraft are now. 00:47:28
The technology is now. I do have a video link. 00:47:30
That I'm happy to play now at 7 minutes. 00:47:34
Or we can move that to the presentation that you have. 00:47:37
It is mainstream. 00:47:41
CBS Sunday Morning. 00:47:43
Updating the world on the status of this technology. 00:47:45
It can be found on YouTube. It is worth the look. It highlights both beta. 00:47:49
As well as the other OEM's who will all play a role. 00:47:54
In meeting those use use cases for the state. Would you guys like to see it? 00:47:59
Right now or would you like to watch it? 00:48:04
On your own time. 00:48:06
OK. 00:48:10
We will to be also share it with the public. 00:48:11
Yes, and it's available publicly right now. 00:48:13
Yeah, we'll make it available. 00:48:18
It is embedded in this presentation. I've had the privilege of speaking with you before, but I look forward to any questions that 00:48:22
you might have. 00:48:26
The key here is that we continue to collaborate, that we create an ecosystem that includes. 00:48:30
The four essential elements. 00:48:37
Foundational issues that have to be in place in order for this to. 00:48:39
Be successful. Those are infrastructure development. 00:48:44
The identification of vertiport locations. The identification of electrification capabilities. 00:48:48
That enable these aircraft to operate the identification. 00:48:54
Of the expansion and networks and clusters. 00:48:58
As your mayor and you as a as council members have been working on. 00:49:02
To cooperate with. 00:49:07
Those communities across Utah Lake. 00:49:09
To cooperate with the communities across Utah County. 00:49:12
To create a network if you will of how these can effectively. 00:49:15
Change and augment your transportation solutions now. So infrastructure. 00:49:20
Item number 2 is talent development you've got. 00:49:26
Umm, we're only as good in bringing these aircraft to the community as we are in flying them and maintaining them and and. 00:49:30
Taking care of the infrastructure that supports them. 00:49:40
And so our universities are partnering with us to develop those capabilities. 00:49:43
And then the third one is regulatory reform, which Paul talked about. 00:49:49
We've got to monitor, we've got to help our legislators, we've got to help our councils. 00:49:53
To understand the importance. 00:49:58
Of development, the developmental impact of bringing these aircraft, the economic impact. 00:50:01
The capability of. 00:50:07
Retaining the talent that works. 00:50:08
That we're working so hard to develop in our neighborhoods, retaining them in our neighborhoods. 00:50:11
And we're looking at the regulatory oversight to help make that happen. And then the last one is the community engagement. 00:50:16
We can bring the electric aircraft here, but if nobody wants them landing near their house, even if they're quiet, even if they 00:50:23
are economically important to us. So any chance we get to do what we're doing with Beta and bringing the aircraft here to 00:50:28
demonstrate these capabilities we're looking to do? 00:50:33
So thank you very much. We'll turn to Ian. 00:50:39
Thanks so much, Chris. 00:50:42
And I'll, I'll be pretty quick here. My name is Ian Robertson. I am current my current role with 47G. 00:50:43
Is the director of critical materials. I'm working on EDA Tech of grants Strategy development Grant building a ecosystem of 00:50:50
critical materials here in Utah. 00:50:54
But in the next few months of that grant will sunset, I will transition over to. 00:50:59
A full time position with court under Koreans. 00:51:04
Team which I will be over partnerships with cities, counties, municipalities, local government as well as academia. 00:51:07
So today I have the opportunity of presenting. 00:51:13
Not only as 470, but I'm also a proud resident of Vineyard. 00:51:16
Just a few blocks that way. 00:51:20
And I'm excited to be here. 00:51:22
Also, if you can't tell, I'm always nervous to follow them. It's almost as if like. 00:51:24
The opening act is going after. 00:51:30
The main show. 00:51:32
So you can imagine the shoes I have to follow. 00:51:33
So to talk about some of the focus initiatives for 2025 and beyond. 00:51:37
As it relates to Vineyard City, every year, every time that we meet with our partners. 00:51:42
And these municipalities that we talked to, we create what they call partnership plans and these are some of the ideas that we 00:51:48
have. 00:51:52
Have discussed what some of the value added to the city. 00:51:55
And of course, I am open to these conversations, not only with the mayor but to the City Council as well. So please feel free to 00:52:01
reach out to me and contact me for anything that you may need, any questions or clarifications, But the role in advanced 00:52:06
manufacturing and defense as it relates to some of our ideas. 00:52:11
With Vineyard City in 2025 and beyond. 00:52:17
Is uh. 00:52:21
Vineyards location makes it makes it absolutely strategic. 00:52:22
For the logistics, supply chain and technology integration such as advanced materials development, artificial intelligence, 00:52:26
additive manufacturing, which like 3D printing, we're not just talking about what you do in your basement making little figurines. 00:52:32
Components that go into things such as the RAM initiative and our partners with like data technologies, Stratum and so on. 00:52:40
Of course, new energy technologies. 00:52:48
Electric electronics, mineralization, or your avionics. 00:52:50
Operate these. 00:52:53
Machines and then, of course, cybersecurity technologies. 00:52:56
The opportunities exist here for current and future Vineyard based businesses to supply aerospace materials. 00:52:59
We talked about that a little bit earlier in our presentation. 00:53:05
To major contractors such as Hexcel or or Lockheed Martin. 00:53:08
And of course, we want to support the emergency clean, the emerging clean energy infrastructure. 00:53:13
As we understand that with with the base load concerns as most cities have as they start to develop and grow. 00:53:18
You can go on to the next one. 00:53:25
All right, again, the idea with the expenditure Utah County Airspace and Defense cluster is to attract aerospace, defense, tech, 00:53:29
composite businesses. 00:53:33
And others. 00:53:38
Such as the AM companies and materials engineering firms. 00:53:39
Benefit from the regional transportation hub and developing innovation campus. We understand that this. 00:53:43
Often you hear vineyards, the first mile, last mile. 00:53:47
Of our front runner. 00:53:50
And of course, as that expands, that will change. But you see things at the inland port. 00:53:52
Discussion to start to come up and then of course a close by to these regional airport. 00:53:57
I'm sorry, I thought someone said something. I apologize. 00:54:04
Going forward, again another. 00:54:07
Aspect of this partnership with Vineyard to strengthen workforce pipelines. 00:54:10
We understand the work with the local academic community, such as UVU to expand the workforce development initiatives. 00:54:14
And pathways for manufacturing such as aviation, tech AM and National security. Security which is 2. 00:54:22
Two of those aviation tech and national security, Social Security. 00:54:29
Is a. 00:54:32
Is on the forefront of UVU and their studies, and you're seeing those programs expand. 00:54:34
Dramatically as. 00:54:38
The industry also expands here in the state. 00:54:40
Continuing advancement and participation in emerging industry initiatives. 00:54:43
Chris has already talked about Project Alta, so I'm not going to beat that dead horse right now. 00:54:47
So cyber, cyber security investments and defense tech initiatives that align with vineyards growth plans. 00:54:51
We want to ensure that. 00:54:57
As these partners and these. 00:55:00
Businesses look to expand that. We do so in a smart way. We're working with our local leaders so that they're expanding in a 00:55:02
Safeway as well. 00:55:06
You know, we're not in the game of pushing something faster than it needs to go. Of course, at the end of this. 00:55:10
We want to make sure that. 00:55:18
There is the opportunity for leverage in the federal and state funding, which would be your grants. There's we. 00:55:20
Work with our partners to help identify funding mechanisms for infrastructure improvements, not just for the city, but for. 00:55:26
Our business as well and you'll see research and development. 00:55:32
And workforce training and that also. 00:55:35
Again, goes back to local businesses who are looking to expand on their operations. There are a lot of federal and state grants. 00:55:37
And of course some private grants as well that allow for those mechanisms to be put in place so these businesses so. 00:55:45
Less this is a pretty much we wanted to thank you. 00:55:53
Specifically, the council, the residents of. 00:55:59
A vineyard and of course, the mayor for your partnership. 00:56:01
We look forward to what that partnership will bring to the table in the next few years. 00:56:04
And we're hopeful that we can continue to expand on the role of what aerospace and defense. 00:56:09
Plays here as in your local ecosystem as well as the broader Utah aerospace and defense ecosystem. So thank you so much. 00:56:15
Any questions? 00:56:23
Sorry I went through that really quick. I apologize. 00:56:24
And, and I'm and we're more than happy not to take away from the the meeting, but we can step on the hall. If anybody from the 00:56:28
audience or one of the residents want to ask some questions, we can take that in the hall if that's appropriate. OK, actually that 00:56:34
would be, that would be helpful. So what we'll do to stay in our normal guidelines is stay here for just a second. 00:56:41
What we'll do is we'll have questions that the residents want to continue in the hall. We'll have public comments. 00:56:48
For the residents that want to ask the council questions in the public comment section in just a minute. 00:56:55
But for the Council, one of the things that you mentioned was cybersecurity interest for us to be aware of it as Council members. 00:57:01
As we're working on innovation and working with our university partnerships and you guys are working with cybersecurity, which is 00:57:08
one of the labor forces that we have at UVU with their really incredible program. 00:57:14
That really coincides with this big privacy launch that we've been doing in our community as AI takes more space. 00:57:20
As we're looking and seeing the commercial build out happen along the state, what does that mean for us and. 00:57:28
And so as we're in this partnership, seeing how those different as we're learning about this ecosystem and working with the 200 00:57:34
companies that you guys mentioned that you're working with, being able to get those questions answered, talk about privacy and 00:57:41
talk about what that looks like, not only for bringing jobs, but making sure it's growing in a way. 00:57:47
That we want to see it in the community. 00:57:54
Does the Council have any questions for our good team here? 00:57:56
Right now it was a lot of information so. 00:58:01
We can also continue to just. 00:58:04
Set of meetings. 00:58:06
Thank you for offering the availability to jump on calls and we'll continue on that. And and Mayor, to clarify that last point 00:58:08
about the cybersecurity, we often hear about aerospace and defense being your brick and mortar locations. You know, what are you 00:58:13
building, what are you manufacturing here within the city limits? But you also have to understand that aerospace and defense 00:58:19
expands well beyond these brick and mortar manufacturing, these warehouses, these these shops. 00:58:24
You're looking at individuals who are doing work from inside their own home, and cybersecurity is a perfect example of what you 00:58:30
can do on a computer and what you're operating. 00:58:34
My neighbor for example works in cyber security's, been doing it for 20 plus years. 00:58:38
And he hasn't gotten to the office for at least 5. 00:58:42
But. 00:58:45
There are there are individuals in this community who are. 00:58:47
Fully engaged in the aerospace and defense. So yes, it does affect the citizens of Vineyard in one way or another. 00:58:51
And as again we highlight 20%, nearly 20% of our. 00:58:58
GDP here in Utah is. 00:59:03
Aerospace and defense in indirect and direct way, so. 00:59:05
Want to clarify. Thank you. 00:59:09
Any other questions from the Council? 00:59:10
OK. If not, then thank you so much for coming and making the time. 00:59:13
I'm going to let the residents that have additional questions for you meet you guys in the hallway if you're up for that. 00:59:17
Otherwise, thank you for making the time. 00:59:21
Are they gonna ask you questions about this? They may. 00:59:24
And so my guess is they'll ask you questions of the hall and then in two. 00:59:28
In 2 minutes or two presentations, they'll come in, they'll ask us questions. So. 00:59:32
Thank you all, We appreciate it. 00:59:38
OK. We will go ahead and move to. 00:59:41
Our next item, which is the Vineyard City Pavement Preservation Program update and Chris Thomas with Streets and Storm Water is 00:59:44
going to do the introduction. 00:59:49
For this item. 00:59:55
If you guys think it will take just a minute to set up, I might have us do the next presentation. 01:00:26
Because it's short. 01:00:34
Is that OK? 01:00:37
Oh, OK, OK, OK. 01:00:39
I just wanted to give you the time that you needed in case that was the case. 01:00:42
As the mayor said, I'm Chris Thomas St. the stormwater manager for Renewed City. 01:00:50
And I'm happy to be here tonight for. 01:00:55
Probably the main reason why everyone came. 01:00:57
Our pavement preservation plan the most riveting. 01:00:59
Business item or presentation? 01:01:03
Let me nerd out for a minute. 01:01:06
So. 01:01:09
Maybe. 01:01:14
Yeah, so. 01:01:22
Sorry about that. 01:01:27
So write off a little article. 01:01:34
Umm Public Works director needs 1 billion to get. 01:01:39
Village roads up to standard. 01:01:42
I see this and I. 01:01:45
Automatically see what they haven't ever done any maintenance to their roads and. 01:01:46
It just got to a point where. 01:01:51
It got crazy and when you don't do maintenance. 01:01:53
This is this is what can happen. 01:01:56
In 2023 we we had a. 01:02:00
Pavement condition study done. 01:02:03
That assesses our roads and categorizes into good. 01:02:05
Poor and failed. 01:02:10
And excellent below that you can see the little metrics there of our city. 01:02:12
They have 606 streets 46. 01:02:18
And a half miles roughly of Rd. 01:02:21
Which equates to 25.1 million square feet, which that number kind of jumped out at me. 01:02:24
And it's being a small town, but still. 01:02:29
What the limited staff we have we. 01:02:32
Have quite a bit of. 01:02:34
Of Ron to take care of. 01:02:36
And then you can see below how it's separated into Residential and collector. 01:02:37
The assessment basically came out and said that our most of our roads are average roads are 84%. 01:02:44
The pays around the PCI rating. They're the same, they just move the decimal point. 01:02:52
Our lowest rows are 44. That's actually the road. 01:02:57
Just east of the Public Works building. 01:03:00
Headed towards the dump. 01:03:03
That's. 01:03:05
The Vineyard Connector corridor. 01:03:06
And we don't know timing on that road, so we got to do some work there. 01:03:09
To figure out what we want to do with that for sure. 01:03:14
Umm, so the key high traffic corridors, Main Street 6 N. 01:03:18
For South, some girls that we're going to do. 01:03:23
Some of those may not. 01:03:26
Be as low rated as some of the other roads that we have in the city. 01:03:27
But that's because we've. 01:03:31
Prioritize some of our main roads because we don't want them to get to that that point. 01:03:34
And so it's money. Sometimes it's more well spent. 01:03:39
On keeping some of our roads nicer than maintaining some lesser roads that are less used. 01:03:44
So, umm. 01:03:49
In 2024, Holbrook Asphalt was ordered a five year payment preservation contract by the city. 01:03:53
Better treatments include HA5 and bonded matrix. They've they've done most of the road treatments in Vineyard to this point. 01:04:00
They they've got a great product and we've seen really good results from it, so we're happy to have them on board still. 01:04:09
We we do perform annual inspections and then we get with the contractor. 01:04:18
To make sure that we we have the most. 01:04:24
Cost effective and the right, the right preservation for what Rd. we're treating so. 01:04:26
And then to the right you can see our map. 01:04:33
Which highlights what we're going to do in the 2025 year, the red being. 01:04:37
Bonded matrix. It's a more robust surface for that type of traffic. 01:04:43
And 85 is more for subdivision. 01:04:48
Rods. 01:04:53
So we have a budget of 354,000 approved for the 2425 budget. 01:05:01
We've developed a 2526 plan. 01:05:06
With Holbrook and to prioritize all of our. 01:05:10
Roads. 01:05:14
That we want to want to get treated. 01:05:15
Our crews have been out. You may have noticed them. They were out today. They've been out for for a week or so. 01:05:18
And then last year we we even started some of the. 01:05:24
Some of the crack sealing for some of these roads in preparation it's. 01:05:27
It's good to get them crack sealed up before we put the treatment on. 01:05:31
It adds another layer of impermeability to the route because water is our biggest enemy, so we want to keep that out. 01:05:34
Umm, this is kind of a little. 01:05:43
Pavement Preservation. 01:05:46
Road Map. 01:05:48
You can see like the. 01:05:49
Initial construction to preservation. 01:05:51
Maintenance. 01:05:54
And then eventually you get to a point where you need to do rehab and then the cycle kind of starts over again. 01:05:55
And then back to rehab again. And then at some point you have to reconstruct the road, but we hope that's a long time down the 01:06:00
road. 01:06:04
Umm, we basically took an inventory of our roads the way this started out, and then we assessed the condition of all our roads. 01:06:08
And then? 01:06:17
We establish baselines, basically what what people wanted to see. 01:06:19
You know how nice of a road we wanted to have. 01:06:24
Then we developed and implemented costs and strategies to achieve those results. 01:06:30
And then now we just need to work on. 01:06:35
The long term. 01:06:38
Capital projects like the Transportation Master plan. 01:06:39
And then establish. 01:06:43
Preservation plan from that five to 10 years out. 01:06:45
And then obviously established funding for all of that too, so. 01:06:49
Umm, this kind of segues into Holbrook Asphalt. They're gonna come up and do a little presentation. 01:06:56
Umm, I'll introduce Aaron in a second. Does anybody have any questions? 01:07:04
For me at this point. 01:07:09
You guys used to have this really cool graph that we bring in and make. Is it is it still in here? 01:07:11
Oh OK, I'm excited for that graph. Good visual. You know the graph I'm talking about. 01:07:17
This is great. 01:07:25
OK, OK. Well Aaron Eppley, he is the. 01:07:28
Asset consultant for Holbrook Asphalt, our contractor that we are contracted with, now, he's going to come up and give a little 01:07:32
presentation. 01:07:35
Thank you so much for that introduction, super helpful. 01:07:39
Nice to see you again. I was here, what, three years ago? 3 or 4 years ago? 01:07:45
And. 01:07:48
I'm happy. 01:07:50
That I was able to get a contract in place with you guys. Again, I use you guys as a. 01:07:52
A marketing tool for us. 01:07:57
You have some young infrastructure, you're in a place to where your city is capable of really making a difference in the long term 01:07:59
preservation of your asphalt. 01:08:03
I've brought. 01:08:08
Dozens of other municipal engineers here and showed them what we've been able to do. I I started working. 01:08:09
2013 I think was my first project with Dawn and. 01:08:16
I was a little worried that we weren't going to make the contract this time, but we we got it. So it was good and I, I really feel 01:08:21
like we partnered up really good and found some really good. 01:08:26
Approaches to pavement. 01:08:33
I personally work with about 65 municipalities in three different states. You guys have a very unique situation. Most cities are 01:08:34
not in your. 01:08:38
Place where you're at. 01:08:43
Your staff is heading in the right direction, they're doing things the right way from my perspective. 01:08:44
So I'll get, I'll get moving on Holbrook asphalt. It's the company. 01:08:49
I put this slide in here. So this presentation comes from an hour long breakout session that we do for APWA and Roads and Streets 01:08:54
conferences. 01:08:58
But I put this slide in there and I've just taken like 10 slides out of here to kind of condense everything down South. It'll be 01:09:02
really quick. 01:09:05
But the National Center for Pavement Preservation in the bottom right corner. 01:09:08
Lot of data and information comes from them as well as their the national centers in Lansing, MI at Michigan State. 01:09:12
And the IPA Academy is in Alabama, Auburn University, so that's where a lot of the data comes from. 01:09:19
And I'll show you. 01:09:25
In the National Center, days kind of break the country up into four regions. 01:09:26
Umm. When you look at pavement, when it ages, it starts out nice and pretty and black. 01:09:30
And it starts to oxidize, it ravels out, you lose some of those fines, and then it gets to the point to where it's cracking, and 01:09:36
then you start to get moisture infiltration into your pavement. 01:09:41
And moisture is the enemy of all pavement as well as the oxidating. 01:09:46
Ages. Now there's a couple things that accelerate the oxidative aging. 01:09:50
That's the UV rays and the moisture. Here in Utah, northern Utah, you get the double whammy. You get a lot of moisture on the 01:09:54
roads all winter and you get the higher elevations and you get the sun and that's really what ages your pavement. 01:09:59
So if we can limit the effect that those two things have on your pavement, you can really extend the life of your pavement, you 01:10:05
can lower your ownership cost over the life of the pavement and you can hopefully push that extensive reconstruction outside the 01:10:10
30, maybe 40 year window. 01:10:15
That helps you. 01:10:20
You know, most valuable. 01:10:22
Expenditure of. 01:10:25
Monies you know is no longer that road lasts. 01:10:27
So you have the effective preservation that's mostly done in the early part of the pavement's life. You look at this graph. On the 01:10:30
vertical, it's the pavement condition. On the horizontal, you can have time and even traffic. 01:10:35
The most effective expenditure of your monies is done early on in the pavements life. That's because the payment has those oils 01:10:41
and resins in there no longer you can keep those in the pavement. 01:10:46
The longer that pavement is going to last, the better quality that's going to have and the lower. 01:10:51
Cost Ownership cost over the life of that payment. There are things that you can do later on in a payment's life, but they're 01:10:56
typically. 01:11:00
More expensive, less effective because of the underlying issues. 01:11:04
Get some other information The oxidative aging of pavement begins at the time of construction and continues throughout the 01:11:09
pavement's life. However, the majority. 01:11:12
Of the oxidative aging occurs within the first two to four years of a payments life. 01:11:16
So if you can get involved. 01:11:20
Obviously you can still do things that are beneficial later on, but the most effective way is to get on that payment as soon as 01:11:22
possible. 01:11:25
Acto and Tripp, they put together some research and they said every dollar spent. 01:11:30
Spent keeping a good real good can preclude spent 6 to 14 to rebuild one that has deteriorated. 01:11:35
I think is so impactful to our community. It's how we're building, how we're getting ahead and what the cost savings is to the 01:11:43
people of Vineyard. 01:11:47
It's a long term thing. It's you guys are gonna own the roads forever. And you know, you can own a road for 20 years and 01:11:52
reconstruct it or you can own a road for 40 years and reconstruct it. And it just, it saves you guys so much money if you do your 01:11:58
preservation early and your staff has done a great quality of life too. The durability and then not having to read those so often, 01:12:03
so early, it's, it's incredible. 01:12:09
I got this from you. 01:12:17
So I I use this and it's kind of. 01:12:18
Taken a part of my presentation that I use because I break pavements into three categories. There's maintenance. 01:12:20
There's rehabilitation and then there's reconstruction and every time you. 01:12:27
Move from 1:00 to the next. Your dollars expended per foot go up exponentially. 01:12:32
And so when you're looking at you in a preservation treatment, it's. 01:12:37
More effective, last longer and cheaper. 01:12:41
Rather than waiting for the reconstruction, you know, you can just see the dollars expenditure and I've got this slide. I love 01:12:44
this slide because it's ugly, but it shows this was done for a city just north of Tucson for their City Council because they 01:12:51
wanted to know, OK, we have a subdivision that's 250,000 square feet. They wanted to know. 01:12:57
What is it going to cost us to own that pavement for the next 30 years? 01:13:03
And so we went to the National Center of Pavement Preservation, pulled out the data, and looked at what you know can happen to 01:13:07
pavements when you're effectively or not effectively doing preservation. 01:13:12
So you can look at that first bar graph that's green. 01:13:17
Your PCI is a 96 or 100. 01:13:20
When you get involved there, you're expending $10,000 a year roughly. You're budgeting that. You're not spending it, but you're 01:13:23
budgeting that. 01:13:26
And you can see for every year you wait that PCI drops lower and lower. Now you're having to expend substantially more amount more 01:13:30
monies every year for the life of that pavement. 01:13:35
So it just says get involved often early and this is what happens to the pavement. I'll show you some of this just because it 01:13:41
helps you understand a little bit. You get the UV light and the moisture penetrating the pavement and. 01:13:46
Oxidizing those volatile oils, the pavement is actually a flexible. 01:13:52
Pavement. You want to keep those oils in the pavement, which helps maintain its flexibility and its adhesion to the aggregate 01:13:56
holds the rock in place. 01:14:00
AK51 of the treatments that you use is exceptionally good and that's impermeable to moisture. NUV light. 01:14:04
Up to eight years. 01:14:11
It's been exceptionally It started in two cities in Utah in 2009. 01:14:13
We're in over, I think 350 agencies in 27 states now that are using that as one of their tools in the toolbox. It's not for every 01:14:18
Rd. but it is really effective where it works. 01:14:23
So this this research was done by a guy named Shakira Shinatwa. I think that's right. I don't know if I'm pronouncing it right. He 01:14:29
was a Caltrans engineer for a lot of years. Then he went out on his own. He started doing research and studies on pavement. 01:14:36
And a preservation strategies. 01:14:43
And when he looked at high density mineral bond, or H5, he was saying that it effectively reduces the hardening of the pavement by 01:14:45
67. 01:14:49
What does that mean? 01:14:54
It means. 01:14:55
If you had the red line is an untreated pavement and that's the aging, the hardening of the pavement. So A5 year pavement 01:14:56
untreated as his hard A5 year pavement would be. But if you use a high density mineral bond. 01:15:02
It acts as if it's a three-year payment and so on and so forth. The 10 year old payment would act as a six year payment. 01:15:08
And that's how you're going to extend the life of your pavements. 01:15:14
So Scott Gordon, I've done some breakout sessions with him at Apwa and Rosen streets. 01:15:18
He's the guy that does the data collection and he's got the fancy laser band that tells you how rough your Rd. is, how many cracks 01:15:24
you have and. 01:15:28
Tell you reflectivity of your sign so he's. 01:15:33
Is always the superstar. And then I got to talk about, you know, putting. 01:15:35
Preservation treatment on the pavement so he always gets asked. 01:15:39
What do I do? What's it going to cost? And so he put together a thing, a cost over the do nothing approach, a percent savings and 01:15:45
he amortized it out to 45 years. 01:15:50
So if you look at the red line, that's a. 01:15:55
That's a do nothing approach. You're roughly getting 30 years in the last 10 years of that. Pavement's life is going to be really 01:15:57
rough. 01:16:00
And then the blue line is say you chose a mill and overlay as your strategy. 01:16:03
So you do a mill and overlay at your 15, you do a mill and overlay at your 27, and then you're 41. You're going to do a. 01:16:07
Total reconstruction. 01:16:15
And then that gets you to the 45 years the yellow is an HA5. 01:16:17
Strategy. 01:16:22
So you're doing a HA5 at year 2, Year 8? 01:16:23
You're 17, you're 26, and then at year 41 or you're 40, you're doing a mill and overlay and then another 85. So it's just your 01:16:27
strategy. It's not the only thing that you're going to do, but it's your strategy. 01:16:33
So the reason I show you that? 01:16:39
Is he has put together a huge database? 01:16:41
And he ranked all the different treatments because he always gets asked by City Council what is the most effective treatment. And 01:16:46
it kind of just depends on where you're what you're doing. But what he did is. 01:16:50
Here's the do nothing approach. 01:16:55
And if you take partial reconstruction as your strategy. 01:16:57
You're going to get a 36% cost of ownership savings over the do nothing approach. Instead of 5.6 million per mile, you're going to 01:17:00
pay 3.6 and so on and so forth. He went through each strategy. 01:17:06
And you see down at the bottom. 01:17:11
90. 01:17:13
You go from 5 million, 5.6 million to a 1.1 million and your cost of ownership savings is 80% and high density mineral bar. 01:17:16
Same thing. You're 950-4000. 01:17:24
Per mile, 83% cost. Those are the two strategies that you guys have chosen. 01:17:27
Umm, the one strategy you get bonded matrix is a combination of the two. It's a chip seal with an HA5 cap, so you're getting the 01:17:32
benefit of both of those. The AK 5 is done in the residential areas. 01:17:38
Where you're only you're not concerned about wearing the road out, you're concerned about the environmental impact on it. 01:17:44
So your staff has done an excellent job. 01:17:50
In my opinion. 01:17:53
Well, because I got a contract with you guys, but it is effective and I do bring people here all the time and use you guys as a 01:17:54
marketing tool for me because of what you're able to do now. We think they're doing a great job too. 01:18:00
And I mean. 01:18:06
From years of watching how it's affected us and the cost savings, and I'm really grateful that you use that graph because it's 01:18:07
from the Department of Transportation. I got it from you. You did? Yeah. That offers it to. 01:18:14
How we find things in the state and how we can make it most reliable for our communities. And the first time that we came together 01:18:21
and. 01:18:24
I save you this graph. It was. 01:18:28
So many cities at that time were trying to figure out. 01:18:31
How to pay? 01:18:34
For their streets that have not gone through this process of making these savings and just we got to see the significant cost and 01:18:35
so to be able to visualize. 01:18:40
Not only the cost savings. 01:18:45
The preservation of time, how we're treating it and why we're treating it, it's amazing. I work with about 55 to 65 cities and 01:18:47
the. 01:18:51
Artist thing I have. 01:18:56
To get them to understand is they got to change from the worst first, That's the. 01:18:57
The most costly way to manage your payment. 01:19:03
To a best first. 01:19:05
If you can take care of your good pavements, don't let them fall into the reconstruction. 01:19:06
You know, then you're going to be saving yourself a ton of money and you're not eating up your whole budget. You're able to do a 01:19:12
larger portion of your plant and that's where you guys are. 01:19:15
You're way ahead of the game as far as other municipalities go on your preservation treatments that you've chosen. 01:19:20
And the approach that your staff has chosen to do, and I'm happy to be a part of it, like when I started working with Dawn out 01:19:25
here. 01:19:28
I was just kind of learning too, and I didn't realize what I had. And then I, you know, you guys grew so fast. It's been really 01:19:31
beneficial for me. 01:19:35
And able to show some of your surrounding communities what an effective treatment, what an effective. 01:19:39
Approach to payment preservation can be. 01:19:45
That's great. 01:19:47
Council, do you have any questions about this? 01:19:49
After you've been here for so long, you just become a weird like political romp on this. I'm like when you guys seen the last 01:19:51
time, I'm like, I need to see it and what it looks like and then you can come to our shop so. 01:19:58
One more time, just that beautiful picture. 01:20:07
Of the difference right there, that's the one that makes all the difference. It really does. It does help you understand that you 01:20:11
spend your money on the front end. It's a lot more. You can cover a lot more and a lot more effective than trying to do it on the 01:20:17
back end. Yeah. And all of the graphs and the breakdown that you showed, and really just the watching the sun and the water go in 01:20:23
and watching the difference of how it ages, I think is really important. It's weird how much of our time here is about building 01:20:28
pavement and St. you know? 01:20:34
Expensive assets, yeah. 01:20:40
And every city's that way, yeah. 01:20:42
There's only been one city that I've ever been that with it itself funded it appropriate level. 01:20:45
On their pavement preservation. 01:20:50
Vernal in this because they just they're looking for they got all that mineral rights and the mineral money's down there in the 01:20:52
oil and they're just looking for streets to pay. Every other city is behind the 8 ball because it is so expensive. So it's 01:20:58
imperative that you get on it earlier and take care of it. You guys are doing a great job I really. 01:21:03
And I'm glad that I've been able to have a chance to work with you guys for I think it's been 13 years now. 01:21:09
Thank you. Thank you. 01:21:14
Hey, anything else you guys want to add? No, All right. 01:21:16
We appreciate you and we appreciate. 01:21:19
The very clear explanation of what's happening and we'll go ahead and move on to our next item. 01:21:23
Which is the discussion of code of conduct ordinance. And I'm just going to turn the time over to Brett. 01:21:29
I'm as Jake is absent so you can lead for your team. 01:21:35
Yeah. So we we had it on here as a. 01:21:39
Discussion item for the for the Council in. 01:21:42
I think I'm just gonna talk about it a little bit and we're gonna move that to. 01:21:46
The next meeting. 01:21:50
We got our draft out a little late for everybody to have a chance to. 01:21:53
Review it but have really been through. Made a ton of changes. 01:21:58
Um, and we have a. 01:22:03
Subcommittee work sessions scheduled for Tuesday night with a few of the citizens that. 01:22:07
Were interested in participating in that they already have. 01:22:12
A copy of the of the draft so that they can so that they can review it. 01:22:17
And then, as in tomorrow also already started to get some. 01:22:21
Additional feedback from Council. 01:22:25
And so there, there's a lot of input going into this. 01:22:30
And one of the things that I wanted to say is that the way that it looks like we're starting to structure it. 01:22:35
Is that there's a section on. 01:22:44
Ethics, which is all legal. 01:22:46
And that is very heavily governed by. 01:22:48
The state. So we're going to lean into what the state does. 01:22:52
And then we'll have some other sections that are more internal to the operations of. 01:22:56
Council commissions and boards. 01:23:03
And those will behave a little bit differently, but part of the care that we're really trying to take. 01:23:05
Is to make sure that. 01:23:12
None of what we put in here can be weaponized against anybody. 01:23:15
That it is all about. 01:23:19
Making sure that we are efficient and that we know how to behave. 01:23:22
And that if. 01:23:27
Anybody. 01:23:29
Chooses to misbehave. 01:23:30
That there are very clear ways to find that we. 01:23:33
Can deal with that. 01:23:39
And it doesn't have to go to. We're also building a lot of flexibility. 01:23:40
So that. 01:23:45
It doesn't have to be. 01:23:47
Censure immediately. 01:23:49
Right there, there are lots of. 01:23:51
Steps that we'll be able to go through and there will be a lot of discretion. 01:23:53
That uh, uh. 01:23:58
Chairs and board members and council will have in order to effectively manage. 01:24:00
Our our own behavior. 01:24:07
So so from from that perspective. 01:24:10
I don't know if anybody else has already had a chance to look at it and has any. 01:24:13
Comment that they would like to share. 01:24:18
But, but generally we have we still have a lot more work to do. 01:24:20
In the expectation is that coming into our. 01:24:24
Next meeting will be at a place where we can have some. 01:24:27
Better discussion and be ready for a vote on. 01:24:31
Thank you so much for the work that you guys have put in on it. I was able to read through it and I liked the direction. I'm glad 01:24:35
you're going to have that Tuesday meeting. 01:24:40
I think any way that we can build a document that works for creating the longest durability in our community and that presents an 01:24:44
opportunity for us to have better training and improving any way that we can with transparency and ethics is critical. Also just 01:24:51
on that note, before we move on, you guys might have questions, but I think we also what we'll do is we'll put there's going to be 01:24:57
a. 01:25:03
Financial risk. 01:25:11
Assessment that we also have to complete the training for next time that one's actually implemented and done. 01:25:13
Already And that we've had to adopt and it's for insurance purposes. So we'll just probably send out the link and have you take 01:25:20
that. 01:25:24
Before the next meeting so that you can get your paperwork in. 01:25:28
For notification. 01:25:32
But do you have any comments for Brett otherwise? 01:25:34
Thank you I I do have one letter for the for the people in the room if. 01:25:38
You are interested in providing any specific feedback. 01:25:42
My contact information is on the city's website. You can send me an e-mail. 01:25:48
And I'm happy to work with anybody who's interested. 01:25:52
Any other comments? That's great. Thank you, Brett. OK. 01:25:57
Great. I'm going to open up public comment. Can you raise your hand if you want to speak? 01:26:00
OK, so we have 12344 comments come up. We'll have two minutes. Tony will set a timer. We're excited to hear from you. 01:26:05
Hi, I'm David Luray resident. 01:26:23
I want to thank the Council with a chance to. 01:26:25
Address you about an issue. 01:26:28
We used to learn about the. 01:26:30
Treating the streets to preserve the serve them and last longer. 01:26:32
I've seen this presentation several times in the years and. 01:26:36
That's a great idea, but I'm wondering though. 01:26:39
What are we doing to take care of the issues where we have some warranty problems essentially with it? There's some places where 01:26:42
the treatment has a stick. 01:26:46
Or where it's failed to do its job properly. 01:26:50
There's a place over Sleepy Ridge where it's come off. There's also 170 S. 01:26:53
All several of the trails that we have where they were treated. 01:26:58
Haven't really done very well. 01:27:01
Wondering what can we you know what can be done to make sure that we. 01:27:02
One have a warranty that it guarantees that. 01:27:06
And two, that we exercise our option to get those things fixed. 01:27:08
Thanks. 01:27:12
Daria Evans Resident I also have a similar question about the pavement thing. I think that's a good idea also to prove it and. 01:27:23
To repair. 01:27:31
But I have a question about the roundabouts. 01:27:33
I think they need reconstruction. They are just falling apart. 01:27:35
And it's going to cost a lot more. 01:27:39
I don't know why they weren't just paved to begin with. So that's my comment. 01:27:42
In question. Thank you. 01:27:46
Karen Cornelius. 01:28:06
I recently read an article penned by our mayor and in it it said that the best governments are the government's closest to the 01:28:09
people. 01:28:12
And I would agree with that. 01:28:16
So my question is. 01:28:18
Why when I ask the question and it was either August or September? 01:28:20
Regarding the 47 G and the aerospace. 01:28:25
And the drowns here in Vineyard. 01:28:29
The mayor looked at me with a smile on her face and said no, we are not planning that. 01:28:32
And yet these good people in the hall told us that the mayor has been at those meetings for over a year. 01:28:37
So did you sign an NDA mayor, that your assistants don't know what you're doing? 01:28:43
That's really concerning. 01:28:49
When you say. 01:28:51
That the best government is the government closest to people. 01:28:53
One more area I'd like to address tonight is the fact that. 01:28:56
This council, along with. 01:29:01
Very professional experts came up with a very creative way. 01:29:04
To deal with our fire department issue, a life saving need for Vineyard. 01:29:09
So for less than $2,000,000. 01:29:14
We are going to have what Vineyard needs. 01:29:17
And now you want us. 01:29:20
To sell our souls for 30 to 35,000,000 for a building that is not needed. 01:29:23
That you could get creative on. 01:29:31
We do not owe the developers of Utah City anything. And if they cannot? 01:29:34
Attract the economic development they need. 01:29:39
Without our. 01:29:42
Tax dollars. 01:29:44
Being hijacked for who knows how long. 01:29:45
Then we don't need it. We don't need it. We were clever and creative. 01:29:49
And came up with a reason, with a way to save the city money and still have a fire department. 01:29:54
Has still have been needs that we need the things that we need. 01:30:00
That are of a life saving nature. 01:30:04
Why do we have to spend that kind of money? 01:30:07
On a building. 01:30:10
That every time I turn around, the name is changing. You went from City Hall to. 01:30:11
Vineyard Center. Canal. The Civic Center. 01:30:16
I have a real problem and I'm not alone. Thank you. 01:30:19
Jane Pierce from Cascade Neighborhood. 01:30:40
I've seen several different renditions of. 01:30:43
Utah City, and one of them had a library that was freestanding. 01:30:47
And in the current. 01:30:51
Umm, pictures that I've seen of Utah City. 01:30:55
But there isn't any. 01:30:58
But we have been given some. 01:30:59
Um, some. 01:31:03
Um, square footage. 01:31:06
In the vineyards that are city center. 01:31:09
But I fear that that's going to be inadequate for what our needs are. 01:31:13
We currently have a population of. 01:31:17
21,000. 01:31:20
And with Utah City, it's definitely going to increase dramatically, maybe even double. 01:31:22
And with the square footage, now that's. 01:31:28
Allocated for the library, it's only. 01:31:34
2500 square feet. 01:31:37
But umm. For example, in Spanish Fork they have a population of. 01:31:41
42,000, which is what we anticipate will be in the future. 01:31:48
But their square footage for their library is. 01:31:52
45,000. 01:31:55
So we have a very, very small. 01:31:57
Umm, a small percentage of that. 01:32:01
Of less than 1/10 of that. 01:32:03
So my question to you, is there some way that we can? 01:32:05
Find more square footage for. 01:32:10
Our library. 01:32:13
Can I ask a clarifying question? Do you say that they have 45,000 square feet or 4500 they have for their library? It's 45,500. 01:32:15
And 50 square feet. 01:32:25
And their population is of 42,000. 01:32:26
OK, so. 01:32:32
Thank you. 01:32:34
Thank you. 01:32:35
Is there another? 01:32:38
OK, I'm going to close public comments. 01:32:42
Thank you for that. I am going to address a few things. 01:32:45
David, you mentioned the treatments and the warranty and you mentioned a few locations where you've noticed some issues. 01:32:48
There is probably a process that our engineer could. 01:32:57
Discuss about what we expect to see. 01:33:01
And then talk to you about your questions about warranties. So if you want to leave your names and just your questions, let's go 01:33:04
ahead and we'll have that follow. Daria, you mentioned the pavement repair you mentioned. 01:33:10
What? 01:33:17
Roundabout falling apart? I also think that you should put your name down and talk to Nasim about this as well. I can give an 01:33:18
example of my roundabout where the streets are slipping off and you can watch it with how they were built originally that may have 01:33:25
needed to be redone in earlier areas. I think it's a different problem. Some of it has to do with weather, but I'm not the expert. 01:33:32
So talking to Naseem about it so that we can make sure to address it and if you're seeing it. 01:33:39
It would be really beneficial if you could report where you are seeing it so that we can address it if we're not noticing it, but 01:33:47
we're trying to pay close attention to that. 01:33:52
Let's see, Karen, you mentioned a question that you have for me and I believe the question actually for 47 G revolved around a 01:33:58
grant from the federal government that the city had a contract for a donating land from the community. I can go back and read the 01:34:04
minutes. 01:34:10
OK, I will. I'll go back and read it and I'll address the question that. 01:34:18
And the difference between it. 01:34:22
And for the question that I'm addressing and stating when you asked me the questions as I understood it. 01:34:24
It's that we were not involved in that. We don't own any land that we're donating. We don't have any contracts and there was no 01:34:31
money coming. Now, how are we involved? I think that is important. It was so good to have them tonight. And where Vineyard has a 01:34:37
voice at the table, it's with all advanced air, mobility and aerospace. 01:34:44
With Provost Airport just expanding by $70 million and going to 18 gates. 01:34:51
One of the things that we've cared about and Vineyard a long time is how do we want to see the airspace happen in Vineyard? How do 01:34:56
we want to hear the noise? How do we want to see the Delta expand and that's where they fly over and there's radioing that's 01:35:03
happening. What does that look like for us in Vineyard? We decided. 01:35:09
At this table, we decided how important it was to be there. We also know that the state is moving ahead with a lot of this 01:35:15
transportation, so we wanted to obtain those seats because we understand that corridors are being considered and looked at, and 01:35:21
for Vineyard because we are a Greenfield site. 01:35:27
And we're building, we want to make sure that growth happens the way that we shape it and that it doesn't happen to our community. 01:35:33
And that's become very critical for us. So when it says, I've been at those meetings and I've been watching and I've been making 01:35:39
sure to advocate and I've been bringing it back and I'm bringing you here, that's exactly what I'm talking. That's, that's what 01:35:45
they were saying. They're saying you are here talking about how Vineyard wants to see it. For instance, we have a hospital 01:35:51
corridor and we need. 01:35:57
Helicopters. So there's other areas, there's other businesses that don't necessarily need helicopters. 01:36:03
But for Vineyard, we do so our zoning is different. So what is that life saving facility look like? 01:36:10
What does it look like when our partners are working with drones? And so at the forefront, we want to make sure the vineyards 01:36:15
voice is heard. What are helipads going to look like? What is a heliport going to look like? What is the state legislation saying? 01:36:22
What are our ordinances doing? And so that's where our voices at the table. And in that regard, that is why we're part of 47 G. 01:36:29
That is one aspect of why we're part of 47 G. That's one of the aspects of why we sit on the committees with you, Doug. 01:36:36
So that is where I'll answer that. You also mentioned we need to get creative and I like where you're going with this because we 01:36:44
did get creative with our fire station. And one of the things that we did was we invested money. 01:36:50
Into a study that allowed us to reduce the amount that we were paying to create a location for fire. 01:36:57
And when we talk about necessity and need, our city is growing. We talked about just getting to Jane just mentioned how we are 01:37:05
getting to this population where we need a fire station here. 01:37:11
And we need this partnership here and that also means we need the staff to be able to take care of the roads for the people that 01:37:17
are coming and still continuing to grow and. 01:37:23
It's becoming a need and it's not just our fire, and we love our fire, but we know our fire needs it. 01:37:29
Our our sheriff's need it. 01:37:35
Our staff needs it. 01:37:38
And so. 01:37:40
That is part of the entire story and it's not one group. 01:37:43
It's every group, and So what are we doing that's creative? 01:37:47
And I like that you brought it up because I mentioned it last time that we get creative and we plan to be creative. 01:37:51
And and I'll jump to that on James Point with the library because we also got creative there, which puts us in a different mindset 01:37:57
for the library. But here we have this ability to do leasing and shared partnerships. And so you have buildings in other places 01:38:04
like Santa Quinn or Provo or Orem and they have a City Hall. But what we're doing is right now we're split up in these little. 01:38:12
Locations as we grow so quickly to say we're going to grow and we're going to do it as fiscally conservative as possible. And now 01:38:19
OK, we're going to go and we're going to jump to the downtown where we're getting land donated to us. So it's not that they owe 01:38:26
us. They're actually giving us something so that we can get creative, we can build a building and potentially. 01:38:33
Umm, if at all. If we. 01:38:41
Vote later down the line to do the bonding and move forward with the project. We're creating a situation. 01:38:43
Where we are inserting ourselves into a building that has multiple partnerships to reduce the burden. 01:38:48
On the taxpayer, that's how we're getting creative right now. 01:38:55
And so when we talk about. 01:38:58
Why? Why the name? And I'm going to bring it up and it's because the name. 01:39:01
Was something that we were talking about with our needs, but when you have leasing partners and shared people who own the building 01:39:06
with you, it's a joint facility because we got creative. So while we're talking about our needs, when we're really coming to the 01:39:11
table and saying what? 01:39:16
What does this building look like and what do we call it? The center was a discussion that came as we're phasing out the projects 01:39:21
and the why why we bring it to the public is because as we. 01:39:26
Move along in the process. We continue to give that new name or that process to the public so that you can digest it and see it 01:39:32
and know the creativity that's happening here. So we'll go to the library. We're going to look at those numbers and we're going to 01:39:38
consider them. But Eric mentioned something about the library, and it's conceptual right now, and I'll talk a little bit about the 01:39:43
library. That's how it got started. 01:39:48
Some cities invest heavily into building a library. 01:39:54
And we are new and growing very fast. And So what we did was we created a volunteer library. 01:39:59
When I was running the youth council, we went around and we grabbed. 01:40:06
10,000 or so books from all of the residents in the area and we got a donation because we were creative then from the front office 01:40:08
of the other building as we were transitioning. 01:40:13
And we have a very small building. 01:40:17
And we got some donations and it was all done based on donation. 01:40:19
And then we were able to grow enough. 01:40:23
To get a line item to have somebody come in and. 01:40:26
Expand it a little bit more and so our. 01:40:30
Opportunity to become an actual library that qualified. We got the brick and mortar, we got the Wi-Fi, we got there's some 01:40:34
qualifications at the state that once you qualify for that. 01:40:39
Then you can get in grant money or whatever the funding is that comes from either the state or wherever it's coming from private 01:40:45
donors at a different level, which other libraries are experiencing. When you invest a lot of money, you get more money in return 01:40:52
because you qualify. And So what happened was they were able to get that money, but now that we're at this place, we'll we'll see 01:40:59
those dollars coming a little bit more because we'll have a different match. But the reason I mention Eric's concept. 01:41:07
Is because. 01:41:14
We are going through the architect engineering and the LRB study. So we don't actually know if the library will remain in that 01:41:16
building. It will it will expand in here with our police, if it will expand in the rec facility that is potentially planned for 01:41:22
the future in Gammon Park or how those shape out. 01:41:29
But I promise you that as we go through it, we will bring it back to you and we will keep in mind the numbers that you talked 01:41:35
about. There are good people on it. 01:41:39
And with that. 01:41:43
I'm gonna go ahead and ask the Council if you have any important updates and then we'll close the meeting. 01:41:45
Brent, I'm going to start with you. 01:41:51
Perfect. I've I've got three things that I wanted to. 01:41:53
Mention umm. 01:41:55
One I was able to go to the Orem Fire Department Awards. 01:41:56
Gala, which was amazing. 01:42:01
And I just want to say thank you so much for allowing. 01:42:04
Me to be there and. 01:42:09
Hear the stories. 01:42:11
That uh, uh. 01:42:13
Of the amazing work that that you do. 01:42:15
And the and the how grateful I am to the men and women of the fire department who service our community. 01:42:18
And how much they care and are willing to. 01:42:24
Sacrifice their own time. 01:42:28
And, umm. 01:42:31
Risk themselves. 01:42:32
For our own safety. 01:42:34
The the second item I had was well, and I'll just add to your item. It was an incredible event and extremely touching. And we have 01:42:37
one of you here today. So thank you for being here with us. 01:42:42
It really was some of those stories. It's it's one of those where I think about my love affair with cheese in my couch. 01:42:48
And I'm so glad. 01:42:54
That there are people who don't have that problem. 01:42:58
That are willing to do that kind of work so that I don't have to. 01:43:01
Umm, all right, my second item is how grateful I am to. 01:43:05
Staff and the council for their patients with the work that we're doing on the scope of conduct. 01:43:12
We had initially committed that we would be prepared. 01:43:17
Having done. 01:43:22
Some public comment period with a draft that we could. 01:43:24
Discuss and vote on tonight and we missed that deadline, so I'm super grateful for the patients in letting us work through that. 01:43:29
And lastly, I'm also grateful to. 01:43:37
The mayor in. 01:43:41
In the city manager for allowing me to be part of, I raised the concern. 01:43:44
As we are entering the RDA meeting about. 01:43:49
Being able to digest the financial analysis that. 01:43:52
LRB was doing on our behalf. 01:43:56
That that that can be very difficult for us to. 01:43:59
Receive Digest. Understand. 01:44:03
And then actually make a good decision on that. 01:44:07
And in light of that, they allowed me to be part of a meeting. Yesterday. There was a working session with LRB. 01:44:12
Where they were going through in a lot more detail, some of what we were looking at earlier this evening. 01:44:21
And that allowed me one to digest it, but also to then consult with other council members and give them some things that they 01:44:26
could look at and learn about. 01:44:32
So that they could more better understand. 01:44:37
The presentation. 01:44:40
And what it actually means in terms of the potential financing for? 01:44:42
The Vineyard Center. 01:44:46
And I think that's all we got. 01:44:48
Perfect. 01:44:50
OK, I just have a few things to. 01:44:53
The grocery store brown rice. 01:44:56
Ground breaking was this morning. There's a news article that shows it's with the Daily Herald. You guys should look it up. It's 01:44:58
really exciting. We're really. 01:45:02
We've really all been looking forward to this grocery store, so we're excited to move forward. 01:45:07
Just we've been continuing meeting with the new the. 01:45:12
Interlocal school district discussing legislation and that's all still. 01:45:16
I'll bring you results as soon as they come. 01:45:21
And then the voting precinct lines for the. 01:45:24
District school board members. 01:45:29
Has also. They've broken it down to two maps that they'll be finalizing I think. 01:45:31
Either this week or next very soon, so there's a little survey going around. If you can't find it, I know it's shared on our 01:45:37
community page, but if you don't see it, you're welcome to reach out to me and I can get you the link. 01:45:43
And then also. 01:45:50
Just something fun was today I was able to attend the active transportation plan and wayfinding. 01:45:52
Where they invited our external partners like developers you dot. 01:45:58
I Utah Elizita. 01:46:03
Uta, UVU. 01:46:05
Anyway, it was great. For those of you that might not know, we are working on our active transportation plan. There's been some 01:46:07
wonderful progress there. As they make more progress, they will present it to the planning. Oh, that. 01:46:14
The ATC Active Transportation Commission. 01:46:20
And then also the Planning Commission and then to the City Council. But throughout that process, they're also going to be doing 01:46:23
town halls. 01:46:27
And so this will give you a chance to participate in. 01:46:31
Umm, picking out areas in the city that maybe need better crossings, better trails, better bikeways, pathways. 01:46:35
Cross Jersey crossings and. 01:46:43
Also, the wayfinding, for those of you that might not know wayfinding is we're trying to create signs to help people understand 01:46:46
directions and distances. 01:46:51
As they come to the city, if they're new or if they're just trying to plan out their day, so really exciting stuff, Keep an eye 01:46:55
out for that town hall. 01:46:59
Open house that we're going to be having where you can. 01:47:03
Share your thoughts. 01:47:07
Sarah um. 01:47:10
So. 01:47:14
Spending time up. 01:47:16
That the LPC, the legislative. 01:47:18
Review with the utility. 01:47:21
Again, they were they were talking about the similar thing, the same things they were talking about the week before, but. 01:47:23
It's really. 01:47:28
Umm, it's really interesting and it's been really good for me to watch. 01:47:31
Because you hear so many things. 01:47:35
Online of corruption and things and and to go in and watch how many people. 01:47:38
Are working really hard to do the right thing and how many checks and balances there are. 01:47:43
In place. I've actually been really impressed to be honest. 01:47:49
So I'm, I'm just going to share a little story with you. 01:47:58
Years ago, I'd wake up and I'd listen to talk radio over and over and over again. 01:48:02
Every day and I hear all of the horrible things happening in our country. 01:48:06
And I'd be like, Oh my gosh, this is. 01:48:10
But the worst How can people do this kind of thing right? 01:48:12
And then I had kind of a. 01:48:16
And many revelation, I guess, and. 01:48:21
And it sounded like this. 01:48:24
How many of these things that you listen to all day, every day that upset you actually affect? 01:48:26
Your life today. 01:48:32
And when I when I did a review, there really wasn't anything. 01:48:34
And and listening to the upset. 01:48:38
Over and over and over again. 01:48:41
Stop my ability to enjoy my day with my kids. 01:48:43
So I just want to share. 01:48:47
That seeing the checks and balances and seeing how many people worked so hard. 01:48:50
To do the right thing. 01:48:55
Is more common than what you would realize. 01:48:57
And. 01:49:00
If I've learned nothing more. 01:49:02
Than that from this being in this position. 01:49:05
I'm grateful for that and. 01:49:09
Yeah. I just wanted to share. 01:49:12
Because I'm. 01:49:15
We're doing pretty good. 01:49:16
We're doing pretty good. We live in the most amazing country. 01:49:18
And the freedoms that we have and the people fighting to protect those freedoms. 01:49:21
Are ongoing all the time. 01:49:25
And yeah, I want to share that. 01:49:28
Thank you. 01:49:30
Yeah, I just wanted to briefly introduce the City manager's report for the month of January. It's 5 pages long. 01:49:33
It's posted on the agenda, so I would encourage everyone to look at it. 01:49:41
Are two interesting points that are the 1st about two points on that list. 01:49:44
Our staff were able to recruit $45,000 in sponsorship to this this year. 01:49:51
Which is 5000 over the goal that we had set. So super exciting and great work on the part of Anna and others. 01:49:57
I also wanted to mention that. 01:50:04
We did a trial at the end of. 01:50:06
Center St. to remove the dumpster. 01:50:10
Add a few more. 01:50:12
Large garbage cans to try to address the. 01:50:14
The over. 01:50:18
Collection of materials that we're ending up there mattresses and. 01:50:20
We had. 01:50:25
In a scene showing up late at night on a weekend just to clean it all up and haul it out. 01:50:26
Elsewhere so that it wasn't such an eyesore and it was becoming a problem and so we have tried. 01:50:31
Removing that and putting those garbage cans and so far it has been excellent. We're going to try it a little longer. 01:50:37
And then we will probably have the Council. 01:50:44
The council decided to put that dumpster down there. 01:50:47
And so we will have you undecide that if it turns out to be the best option. So yeah. And just to update, why? 01:50:50
The difference that Eric is stating is that there was a trash bin that was there and there was mass dumping. 01:50:57
In the wetlands, yeah. 01:51:06
And we were. 01:51:08
The citizens came out and asked for a solution and one of the recommendations was to do a larger dumpster and what we found was a 01:51:09
reduction. 01:51:14
Of dumping in the wetlands, which was phenomenal and a. 01:51:18
An upset of dumping in the street. 01:51:23
Umm, so the new plant or the change was to put trash bins in various areas along the trail, right? And we have staff that is that 01:51:26
is going down there every day. 01:51:32
And removing that and throwing it in our city dumpsters. 01:51:39
As needed, and so that it's just a, we increase the the. 01:51:44
Oversight of that area. So we've grown, we've increased the oversight. That's always an additional cost. 01:51:48
Often takes away from other things. So when summer jobs pick up and all of a sudden we have lots going on, we might see a 01:51:55
difference to do a pilot a little bit longer for when the weather gets warmer and it changes the outcomes and we see where our 01:52:00
service options. 01:52:06
What they really look like and where that. 01:52:12
This financial spot, I think that's why we're going to do that pilot program a little bit longer and then? 01:52:14
Then you can have a review. 01:52:20
For the public. 01:52:22
With that, I'll end. I'll encourage everyone to read the the report. There's super exciting things happening. 01:52:23
In the city. 01:52:28
Just in this last month alone. 01:52:29
Some really exciting things have taken place so. 01:52:32
Read it over and let us know at our next meeting if you had any questions about it. 01:52:34
Perfect. And if everybody, I don't believe I missed anything, we jumped around all over. So if you're seeing anything. 01:52:38
I believe we continued. We don't have a closed session anymore on this one because we did it before everybody did the reports. 01:52:45
Public comments, work session. OK. With that I will adjourn. Thank you for staying with us along tonight. 01:52:53
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