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The Vineyard Planning Commission meeting, we'll get right into things. I'll give an invocation and then a Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:00
So. 00:00:03
Dear Heavenly Father, we're thankful that we could be here today to discuss things pertaining to the city. Please bless us that 00:00:08
will feel inspired as to the things that we need to do and the decisions that we need to make. Help us to know what would be best 00:00:14
for the city and what aligns with our goals. We're thankful for those that volunteer their time and efforts to the city and please 00:00:20
bless them when we say these things in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen. 00:00:25
All right. 00:00:32
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, 00:00:35
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:42
All right. We'll move right into the public comments if there are any. Do you have any public comments? 00:00:51
All right. Moving into business items, then business item 5.1, the AutoZone site plan application. 00:00:57
Great. 00:01:04
We do have our applicant here, Colby Anderson. I'll go through brief presentation and then if they have any questions for you, 00:01:05
just about you could come up to the mic and they can kind of grill you on any questions they may have. So yeah, this is the 00:01:11
AutoZone site plan. It is here's a little contextual map. We have the O'Reilly, the Jiffy Lube, the Mr. Car Wash, then AutoZone. 00:01:17
This is in the GRMU. 00:01:23
This next. 00:01:31
Here's just to show you kind of the access to the site. There will be access straight off of Geneva Rd. They'll also have access 00:01:33
that goes over into the Mr. Car Wash lot and then X development. The the people who bought out that land are working on this road 00:01:40
that will go along the back of the the western side of these lots towards that McDonald's and out on the 4th north. 00:01:47
So just to give you some idea of access to the site. 00:01:55
Going back, so here's the site plan. We have a 6800 square foot building. It is located almost directly right on the property 00:02:00
line. This zone doesn't have any side setbacks and so they they built right onto that that property line so that they could 00:02:06
accommodate the the parking in this access Rd. that you can see here. 00:02:13
It has adequate number of parking. I think they hit our requirement. I believe it was 23 stalls and they're right at 23 stalls. 00:02:22
They have a bicycle parking as well right here. 00:02:27
And then other things about the site. So they do have a trash enclosure right here that will be accessed through that access Rd. 00:02:34
They will have a delivery Bay right here for, for trucks that that drop off supplies and stuff. And I believe there will be a door 00:02:41
like a garage door right there that they can easily access to, to bring all into their like back supply room. And then there's 00:02:47
also a sidewalk that goes along the backside of the of the building. 00:02:53
So here's that landscaping. They've done a good job at providing screening. Just to the West of them, they have that parking lot. 00:03:03
The Edgewater townhome parking lot. And so they've tried to screen their building from the townhomes as well. Same thing along 00:03:12
Geneva Rd. They've they've met a requirement of putting plenty of plantings along Geneva Rd. as well as the internal parking. The 00:03:20
other thing to take note is that this does fall within the, I think it's a bottom 4 lots of the GRMU has to have this 42 inch 00:03:27
wrought iron fence go on Geneva Road and so they they have met that requirement. 00:03:35
In this plan and they have also provided this crosswalk that will lead to a future potential trail along Geneva Rd. 00:03:43
So that's kind of down in the southern half of this Access Rd. 00:03:51
All of the plantings meet our qualifications as well in terms of minimal minimum caliper size and planting sizes. 00:03:57
And no turf is provided as well. 00:04:05
It's all water wise. 00:04:10
Let's see. There we go. So here's some elevation. So this is the front elevation. It's made-up of stone, brick and stucco and lots 00:04:12
of glass. And then, you know, they're they're big sign right on the front facing Geneva Rd. 00:04:19
Here's the West elevation, so this is facing the Edgewater townhomes and there's no signage provided there. And that's being very 00:04:28
aware of of their neighboring properties with the the townhomes. So they don't have any bright AutoZone lights, you know, shining 00:04:33
right into their their windows. And then they provided these metal trellises that go along each section of here. And that's part 00:04:39
of the GRMU code has the language that. 00:04:45
Requires the every 30 feet for the building to be broken up. 00:04:53
And so that is what those are for, to just provide some architectural interest to the building. 00:04:57
This is the north elevation. We'll have a sign and all of these signs will be approved through a separate building permit as well. 00:05:04
And there's that Bay door you can see there for deliveries. 00:05:11
And then similar for the South elevation. 00:05:15
Just here's the material details if you wanted to see anything. I didn't receive a colored elevations. They actually provided 00:05:20
different elevations at first that didn't meet the code. And so we had them redo the elevations and that's what's been provided 00:05:27
here. And these ones unfortunately don't have color. I don't know if you have an updated one with with color or if that's 00:05:34
something that you guys want to see, but this does the the materials list does show the the colors and they all match what is. 00:05:41
Required in our city code. There's no like bright Blues or pinks or anything like that on the brick. 00:05:48
So with that, that's all the materials that I've prepared. They've met all of our zoning requirements in the Gru as well as our 00:05:57
zoning code. And we just kind of have our basic conditions of approval that they make any red line corrections. They're subject to 00:06:04
all federal, state and local laws and they observe all ADA requirements. 00:06:10
Cool, they're not requesting any variances or exceptions. 00:06:18
Thank you, Kash. 00:06:22
Everything looks good to me. Did you guys have any questions or comments? 00:06:25
Yeah, how was 23 parking stalls determined? 00:06:31
Great question. So our zoning code and our parking section has a table in it. And that table lists different uses. So it'll say 00:06:36
retail, hotel, restaurant. It gets very specific, very granular. And then whatever we establish the uses, there's a ratio. And 00:06:43
this I believe was, oh, shoot, I don't know if I remember. 00:06:50
But it's usually like 11 stall per X. Oh, thank you. One stall per 300 square feet of internal space. So we take the total square 00:06:59
footage of the building, divide that by 300, and that gives us the the 23. 00:07:06
Cool, so. 00:07:15
Yeah, just that way different uses that will have bigger impacts, you know, we're going to require bigger parking stall numbers 00:07:17
and vice versa if it's a less impactful type of use like an office space, I believe is a little bit less. I could be wrong, but it 00:07:23
it just varies. So I'd be happy to review that table anytime with you if you want to kind of have a better understanding of how we 00:07:29
we calculate our parking ratios. 00:07:35
That's fine. So yeah, the parking should be adequate. I believe in their narrative they they listed that they'll have was it 5 00:07:43
employees on site? I could be wrong. 00:07:48
But yeah, it's adequate parking so that it has, you know, parking for the the employees that are there and then any, any customers 00:07:56
that come to visit. 00:08:00
It says that they will have 10 to 15 full and part time employees. It doesn't say necessarily their schedules, but so on site 00:08:06
though they tend to to 15 employees. Hours of operation, 8:00 AM to 10:00 PM, seven days per week. 00:08:13
Autozones are open late, so and then they actually they did have a photometric plan and that photometric plan did show that 00:08:22
there's no light spilling over into the adjacent residential. And it helps that that parking lot is also there's a buffer. 00:08:28
Between lemon and Edgewater. 00:08:35
Cool. Nate, do you have any questions? 00:08:39
I don't this seems straightforward and I like it. Thank you for bringing jobs and stores to our community. 00:08:42
Would one of you guys like to make a motion? I'm happy to. I'll move to approve the AutoZone site plan application as requested by 00:08:50
the applicant with the conditions of approval that were presented tonight by staff. Thank you. Nate, do I have a second? 00:08:56
Thanks, Graydon. All in favor, aye. All right, that moves forward. Thank you so much. 00:09:03
Nice and straightforward. So yeah, going forward, I'm going to be sending you just a letter. It might be next Monday unless 00:09:10
Anthony can do it tomorrow. We'll see that that just kind of goes over the next steps that you have approval for I believe a year 00:09:15
with the site plan to get moving on, on construction and land disturbance. You'll be working with our engineering department on 00:09:21
that and then our building department on the building permit. 00:09:26
So thanks for coming out. 00:09:32
Thanks. 00:09:35
All right, moving on to staff, Commission and committee reports, anything from the Commission? 00:09:36
That was an awesome Vineyard Days, please. 00:09:44
Just extend my gratitude and congratulations to all staff that were involved in planning that. 00:09:47
Yeah, it was great. 00:09:53
Yeah, anything from staff? Yeah. So I have a few things. 00:09:58
In the middle of last month, May, we didn't have Planning Commission. Morgan and I were actually the way we were at a conference 00:10:02
called CNU. It was in Cincinnati. And so we we had an excellent time learning about kind of the downtown of Cincinnati and how it 00:10:08
was revitalized. It's definitely one of these like Rust Belt cities that was kind of forgotten about and they experienced just a 00:10:14
lot of a lot of hardship and. 00:10:20
You know, anti growth. 00:10:29
15 to 30 minutes and takes. 00:11:05
It doesn't look like a trolley, it looks more like a. 00:11:10
More similar to a bus, but it's actually on rail. But it's not like a historical Street car. 00:11:14
So yeah, it was just neat to experience kind of what a streetcar, what public transportation can can do and help revitalizing an 00:11:22
area that was definitely forgotten about and experienced a lot of crime, poverty, and to see it completely turn it around. And 00:11:27
like I said, it was. 00:11:32
The like highlight of the trip was going on the streetcar and seeing Over The Rhine and, and spending time there. So that was a 00:11:37
pretty exciting time going to this this conference that was part of it was this like streetcar tour to see what can be done. 00:11:44
Very cool so. 00:11:51
Cool. I feel like I had a few other things. We will actually. We're in the process right now of hiring a new planning technician. 00:11:52
That's exciting, fire department. It'll help us hopefully get agendas out to you guys a bit sooner. Right now we're. 00:12:01
I'd say we're pretty good at getting them out Thursday or Friday before, but hopefully we can do even earlier with this new 00:12:07
position, help offload a lot of work from Anthony and I and and especially as we have a lot more applications coming down the 00:12:12
pipeline. 00:12:16
And I think that's it. Do we have anything from engineering? 00:12:23
I don't think so today. Did we? Did we announce the? 00:12:27
Shoot, what's it called? The trail that got funded? 00:12:33
First with U dot. 00:13:08
And I sorry to confirm, is this the funding for the design or for the actual development? All of it. We got five, a little over $5 00:13:10
million for it, right? But because we still have to do design, it's still going to be quite a while before you see any ground 00:13:16
turning. Their goal is next year to start construction. 00:13:22
So this right now they're implementing kind of their standards that they want to implement through all of the trails that they're 00:13:29
designing. So they'll have like minimum widths and stuff like that. And then once they have these design standards built out, then 00:13:34
they can put that, you know, copy and paste it into our. 00:13:39
Location and get the design work done there. 00:13:46
And I think that's it from our end. 00:13:50
Yeah, I don't think I have anything cool. 00:13:54
I did have a quick question about DRC. I don't know if you guys know this but in DRC before. 00:13:56
The bylaws didn't allow there to be a. 00:14:04
Stand in for the chairman of the Planning Commission. Do you know if they changed that and when they had their bylaws meeting? The 00:14:07
bylaws has not happened yet. It hasn't happened yet. The discussion has not. We've actually haven't had a DRC for quite a while 00:14:14
and that's actually another thing this new position is going to help us facilitate a little bit better is DRC meetings. But that's 00:14:22
definitely on the top of our list of of things to do is get the the bylaws discussion moving on known as seems eager to do that. 00:14:29
It just seems like even the past few DRC meetings, we've only had three of the seven people present. And so we didn't want to have 00:14:37
that bylaws discussion with only part of the maybe we had four out of seven, I don't know, But we wanted to have everybody that we 00:14:42
could be there. 00:14:46
With the current bylaw, sure. OK, Yeah, we'll, we'll make sure that we address that. 00:14:54
Most of the people are staff. Yeah, it's it's in all staff meeting and just about every city that does it this way does it during 00:15:04
the day. I think I'm the I think the Planning Commission is the only non staff, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, true. 00:15:10
There's still staff. 00:15:18
They're getting paid to be there. 00:15:20
Oh, and I did want to just say that I passed my AACP test this past week, so that was a pretty exciting accomplishment for myself. 00:15:23
I know Morgan would say that if he's here, so I'll toot my own horn. That's great, congratulations. 00:15:32
Cool. All right, if we've got nothing else. 00:15:42
Then meeting adjourned. 00:15:46
Thank you everybody. 00:15:48
Almost our shortest meeting. 00:15:49
It would have been the shortest that we started on. 00:15:53
I do want color elevations. You want me to send those to you? I don't. I don't need them. They're not necessary. 00:15:57
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The Vineyard Planning Commission meeting, we'll get right into things. I'll give an invocation and then a Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:00
So. 00:00:03
Dear Heavenly Father, we're thankful that we could be here today to discuss things pertaining to the city. Please bless us that 00:00:08
will feel inspired as to the things that we need to do and the decisions that we need to make. Help us to know what would be best 00:00:14
for the city and what aligns with our goals. We're thankful for those that volunteer their time and efforts to the city and please 00:00:20
bless them when we say these things in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen. 00:00:25
All right. 00:00:32
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, 00:00:35
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:42
All right. We'll move right into the public comments if there are any. Do you have any public comments? 00:00:51
All right. Moving into business items, then business item 5.1, the AutoZone site plan application. 00:00:57
Great. 00:01:04
We do have our applicant here, Colby Anderson. I'll go through brief presentation and then if they have any questions for you, 00:01:05
just about you could come up to the mic and they can kind of grill you on any questions they may have. So yeah, this is the 00:01:11
AutoZone site plan. It is here's a little contextual map. We have the O'Reilly, the Jiffy Lube, the Mr. Car Wash, then AutoZone. 00:01:17
This is in the GRMU. 00:01:23
This next. 00:01:31
Here's just to show you kind of the access to the site. There will be access straight off of Geneva Rd. They'll also have access 00:01:33
that goes over into the Mr. Car Wash lot and then X development. The the people who bought out that land are working on this road 00:01:40
that will go along the back of the the western side of these lots towards that McDonald's and out on the 4th north. 00:01:47
So just to give you some idea of access to the site. 00:01:55
Going back, so here's the site plan. We have a 6800 square foot building. It is located almost directly right on the property 00:02:00
line. This zone doesn't have any side setbacks and so they they built right onto that that property line so that they could 00:02:06
accommodate the the parking in this access Rd. that you can see here. 00:02:13
It has adequate number of parking. I think they hit our requirement. I believe it was 23 stalls and they're right at 23 stalls. 00:02:22
They have a bicycle parking as well right here. 00:02:27
And then other things about the site. So they do have a trash enclosure right here that will be accessed through that access Rd. 00:02:34
They will have a delivery Bay right here for, for trucks that that drop off supplies and stuff. And I believe there will be a door 00:02:41
like a garage door right there that they can easily access to, to bring all into their like back supply room. And then there's 00:02:47
also a sidewalk that goes along the backside of the of the building. 00:02:53
So here's that landscaping. They've done a good job at providing screening. Just to the West of them, they have that parking lot. 00:03:03
The Edgewater townhome parking lot. And so they've tried to screen their building from the townhomes as well. Same thing along 00:03:12
Geneva Rd. They've they've met a requirement of putting plenty of plantings along Geneva Rd. as well as the internal parking. The 00:03:20
other thing to take note is that this does fall within the, I think it's a bottom 4 lots of the GRMU has to have this 42 inch 00:03:27
wrought iron fence go on Geneva Road and so they they have met that requirement. 00:03:35
In this plan and they have also provided this crosswalk that will lead to a future potential trail along Geneva Rd. 00:03:43
So that's kind of down in the southern half of this Access Rd. 00:03:51
All of the plantings meet our qualifications as well in terms of minimal minimum caliper size and planting sizes. 00:03:57
And no turf is provided as well. 00:04:05
It's all water wise. 00:04:10
Let's see. There we go. So here's some elevation. So this is the front elevation. It's made-up of stone, brick and stucco and lots 00:04:12
of glass. And then, you know, they're they're big sign right on the front facing Geneva Rd. 00:04:19
Here's the West elevation, so this is facing the Edgewater townhomes and there's no signage provided there. And that's being very 00:04:28
aware of of their neighboring properties with the the townhomes. So they don't have any bright AutoZone lights, you know, shining 00:04:33
right into their their windows. And then they provided these metal trellises that go along each section of here. And that's part 00:04:39
of the GRMU code has the language that. 00:04:45
Requires the every 30 feet for the building to be broken up. 00:04:53
And so that is what those are for, to just provide some architectural interest to the building. 00:04:57
This is the north elevation. We'll have a sign and all of these signs will be approved through a separate building permit as well. 00:05:04
And there's that Bay door you can see there for deliveries. 00:05:11
And then similar for the South elevation. 00:05:15
Just here's the material details if you wanted to see anything. I didn't receive a colored elevations. They actually provided 00:05:20
different elevations at first that didn't meet the code. And so we had them redo the elevations and that's what's been provided 00:05:27
here. And these ones unfortunately don't have color. I don't know if you have an updated one with with color or if that's 00:05:34
something that you guys want to see, but this does the the materials list does show the the colors and they all match what is. 00:05:41
Required in our city code. There's no like bright Blues or pinks or anything like that on the brick. 00:05:48
So with that, that's all the materials that I've prepared. They've met all of our zoning requirements in the Gru as well as our 00:05:57
zoning code. And we just kind of have our basic conditions of approval that they make any red line corrections. They're subject to 00:06:04
all federal, state and local laws and they observe all ADA requirements. 00:06:10
Cool, they're not requesting any variances or exceptions. 00:06:18
Thank you, Kash. 00:06:22
Everything looks good to me. Did you guys have any questions or comments? 00:06:25
Yeah, how was 23 parking stalls determined? 00:06:31
Great question. So our zoning code and our parking section has a table in it. And that table lists different uses. So it'll say 00:06:36
retail, hotel, restaurant. It gets very specific, very granular. And then whatever we establish the uses, there's a ratio. And 00:06:43
this I believe was, oh, shoot, I don't know if I remember. 00:06:50
But it's usually like 11 stall per X. Oh, thank you. One stall per 300 square feet of internal space. So we take the total square 00:06:59
footage of the building, divide that by 300, and that gives us the the 23. 00:07:06
Cool, so. 00:07:15
Yeah, just that way different uses that will have bigger impacts, you know, we're going to require bigger parking stall numbers 00:07:17
and vice versa if it's a less impactful type of use like an office space, I believe is a little bit less. I could be wrong, but it 00:07:23
it just varies. So I'd be happy to review that table anytime with you if you want to kind of have a better understanding of how we 00:07:29
we calculate our parking ratios. 00:07:35
That's fine. So yeah, the parking should be adequate. I believe in their narrative they they listed that they'll have was it 5 00:07:43
employees on site? I could be wrong. 00:07:48
But yeah, it's adequate parking so that it has, you know, parking for the the employees that are there and then any, any customers 00:07:56
that come to visit. 00:08:00
It says that they will have 10 to 15 full and part time employees. It doesn't say necessarily their schedules, but so on site 00:08:06
though they tend to to 15 employees. Hours of operation, 8:00 AM to 10:00 PM, seven days per week. 00:08:13
Autozones are open late, so and then they actually they did have a photometric plan and that photometric plan did show that 00:08:22
there's no light spilling over into the adjacent residential. And it helps that that parking lot is also there's a buffer. 00:08:28
Between lemon and Edgewater. 00:08:35
Cool. Nate, do you have any questions? 00:08:39
I don't this seems straightforward and I like it. Thank you for bringing jobs and stores to our community. 00:08:42
Would one of you guys like to make a motion? I'm happy to. I'll move to approve the AutoZone site plan application as requested by 00:08:50
the applicant with the conditions of approval that were presented tonight by staff. Thank you. Nate, do I have a second? 00:08:56
Thanks, Graydon. All in favor, aye. All right, that moves forward. Thank you so much. 00:09:03
Nice and straightforward. So yeah, going forward, I'm going to be sending you just a letter. It might be next Monday unless 00:09:10
Anthony can do it tomorrow. We'll see that that just kind of goes over the next steps that you have approval for I believe a year 00:09:15
with the site plan to get moving on, on construction and land disturbance. You'll be working with our engineering department on 00:09:21
that and then our building department on the building permit. 00:09:26
So thanks for coming out. 00:09:32
Thanks. 00:09:35
All right, moving on to staff, Commission and committee reports, anything from the Commission? 00:09:36
That was an awesome Vineyard Days, please. 00:09:44
Just extend my gratitude and congratulations to all staff that were involved in planning that. 00:09:47
Yeah, it was great. 00:09:53
Yeah, anything from staff? Yeah. So I have a few things. 00:09:58
In the middle of last month, May, we didn't have Planning Commission. Morgan and I were actually the way we were at a conference 00:10:02
called CNU. It was in Cincinnati. And so we we had an excellent time learning about kind of the downtown of Cincinnati and how it 00:10:08
was revitalized. It's definitely one of these like Rust Belt cities that was kind of forgotten about and they experienced just a 00:10:14
lot of a lot of hardship and. 00:10:20
You know, anti growth. 00:10:29
15 to 30 minutes and takes. 00:11:05
It doesn't look like a trolley, it looks more like a. 00:11:10
More similar to a bus, but it's actually on rail. But it's not like a historical Street car. 00:11:14
So yeah, it was just neat to experience kind of what a streetcar, what public transportation can can do and help revitalizing an 00:11:22
area that was definitely forgotten about and experienced a lot of crime, poverty, and to see it completely turn it around. And 00:11:27
like I said, it was. 00:11:32
The like highlight of the trip was going on the streetcar and seeing Over The Rhine and, and spending time there. So that was a 00:11:37
pretty exciting time going to this this conference that was part of it was this like streetcar tour to see what can be done. 00:11:44
Very cool so. 00:11:51
Cool. I feel like I had a few other things. We will actually. We're in the process right now of hiring a new planning technician. 00:11:52
That's exciting, fire department. It'll help us hopefully get agendas out to you guys a bit sooner. Right now we're. 00:12:01
I'd say we're pretty good at getting them out Thursday or Friday before, but hopefully we can do even earlier with this new 00:12:07
position, help offload a lot of work from Anthony and I and and especially as we have a lot more applications coming down the 00:12:12
pipeline. 00:12:16
And I think that's it. Do we have anything from engineering? 00:12:23
I don't think so today. Did we? Did we announce the? 00:12:27
Shoot, what's it called? The trail that got funded? 00:12:33
First with U dot. 00:13:08
And I sorry to confirm, is this the funding for the design or for the actual development? All of it. We got five, a little over $5 00:13:10
million for it, right? But because we still have to do design, it's still going to be quite a while before you see any ground 00:13:16
turning. Their goal is next year to start construction. 00:13:22
So this right now they're implementing kind of their standards that they want to implement through all of the trails that they're 00:13:29
designing. So they'll have like minimum widths and stuff like that. And then once they have these design standards built out, then 00:13:34
they can put that, you know, copy and paste it into our. 00:13:39
Location and get the design work done there. 00:13:46
And I think that's it from our end. 00:13:50
Yeah, I don't think I have anything cool. 00:13:54
I did have a quick question about DRC. I don't know if you guys know this but in DRC before. 00:13:56
The bylaws didn't allow there to be a. 00:14:04
Stand in for the chairman of the Planning Commission. Do you know if they changed that and when they had their bylaws meeting? The 00:14:07
bylaws has not happened yet. It hasn't happened yet. The discussion has not. We've actually haven't had a DRC for quite a while 00:14:14
and that's actually another thing this new position is going to help us facilitate a little bit better is DRC meetings. But that's 00:14:22
definitely on the top of our list of of things to do is get the the bylaws discussion moving on known as seems eager to do that. 00:14:29
It just seems like even the past few DRC meetings, we've only had three of the seven people present. And so we didn't want to have 00:14:37
that bylaws discussion with only part of the maybe we had four out of seven, I don't know, But we wanted to have everybody that we 00:14:42
could be there. 00:14:46
With the current bylaw, sure. OK, Yeah, we'll, we'll make sure that we address that. 00:14:54
Most of the people are staff. Yeah, it's it's in all staff meeting and just about every city that does it this way does it during 00:15:04
the day. I think I'm the I think the Planning Commission is the only non staff, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, true. 00:15:10
There's still staff. 00:15:18
They're getting paid to be there. 00:15:20
Oh, and I did want to just say that I passed my AACP test this past week, so that was a pretty exciting accomplishment for myself. 00:15:23
I know Morgan would say that if he's here, so I'll toot my own horn. That's great, congratulations. 00:15:32
Cool. All right, if we've got nothing else. 00:15:42
Then meeting adjourned. 00:15:46
Thank you everybody. 00:15:48
Almost our shortest meeting. 00:15:49
It would have been the shortest that we started on. 00:15:53
I do want color elevations. You want me to send those to you? I don't. I don't need them. They're not necessary. 00:15:57
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