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That's all. 00:00:00
Today is July 17th. This is the Vineyard Planning Commission meeting. It is. 00:00:02
So, 2:00 PM And we'll get right into things. Uh, Chris Primo is gonna give us an invocation and Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:07
Our Father in heaven we're very great bless you be here today every day Planning Commission and as public employees they respond 00:00:16
to this as we peer reviews tonight that we can be grateful for this nation that would be blindfolded constitution and the rights 00:00:22
of those who are coming to force today to to do work with their properties. Thankful for all you've given us for the city of Jesus 00:00:28
Christ. 00:00:34
Amen. 00:00:41
Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, 00:00:46
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:52
All right, thank you so much. All right, we will move into, uh, public comments if there are any. Doesn't look like they're gonna 00:01:01
be any public comments. We'll move into the consent items for approval. Umm, do I have a motion on that? Have you guys been able 00:01:06
to walk over the minutes? 00:01:11
I wasn't here for one of them, OK, so I wouldn't make it. 00:01:18
Either you guys want to make a motion on the consent items. 00:01:22
Just a minute, All right. Do I have a second? 00:01:29
All right. 00:01:37
OK. All right. Second from Graydon. All in favor, aye. All right, moving to business item 5.3. Anthony, I got it. 00:01:39
Into this one at the Liveway Suites and Hotel and the GR meals. 00:01:48
All right, so umm. 00:01:56
My name is Anthony and I will be presenting on the live away suites. Umm, we have an applicant to pull in. I mean submit an 00:01:58
application for conditional use permit and a side plan and we have applicants here today to answer any questions and tell us more 00:02:07
about the hotel. Umm, then I can go ahead and share my analysis as well. But before we do that I would like to. 00:02:15
Before we invite the applicant, I'd like to just give you a location context. 00:02:25
So umm, the site is going to be located right on Geneva Rd. 00:02:36
And. 00:02:41
The red section there is the area awareness site is the hotel site is going to be a close site. 00:02:44
So on the full side will be a combination of lot 204 and 205. In that area they apply for a final plan amendment which was 00:02:54
approved on the 20th of June with conditions, uh, there were a lot of umm, tax stuff that needed to be cleared. So, umm, that is a 00:03:01
condition. 00:03:08
Tending to be resolved before they can go ahead and record the plat. Umm. 00:03:17
The proposed project is located within our GRMU and uh, zone and that requires a conditional use permit for the kind of operations 00:03:23
of the hotel. So they have that application as part of this one. And I would leave this umm to the applicant right now to just 00:03:30
tell us a lot more about the the project. 00:03:38
All right. 00:03:49
Thank you very much for your time today and allowing us to be here. You said your name and. 00:03:51
Partners, the developer for this project also here is Kerry Simbley. She is our Director of Acquisitions and she will come up and 00:03:59
clarify anything that I don't know the answer to. Also with us is Brady Morris, who I'm sure some of you are familiar with. He is 00:04:07
with Enzyme Engineering and he is a civil engineer on this project and heavily involved with Anthony and the rest of the staff. 00:04:16
Uh, which expects the application and all that. So thanks Anthony for your brief summary on this. Like you said, this is going to 00:04:26
be a live away suite branded extended stay hotel. Umm, this is a new second few modern brand. It's not still product. Umm, it 00:04:34
caught us an exciting time. We are opening a hotel. 00:04:43
In West Jordan in days, probably next week. 00:04:52
Early next week. So we're excited to do that opening and, uh, you know, really get ourselves on the map. We also recently just 00:04:55
broke ground on a hotel, Liberty Suites, Brandon's hotel in Draper, umm. 00:05:01
I will let Anthony speak to condition, but we have already been through the staff report, umm, and we started addressing the 00:05:11
conditions that Anthony suggested, but we can talk about that in more detail later, uh, later. As far as the product itself, like 00:05:21
I said in some extended stay hotel, UMM has 126 guest rooms, 4 floors. 00:05:30
About 59,711 square feet and the composition of rooms about 60% single king, 40% double clean. Umm, I can show this picture. 00:05:39
So you guys can get a little idea of what the rooms look like. Sorry I didn't turn off a bunch of them, but I should give you a 00:05:51
general idea. Umm, extended stay. A lot of people aren't familiar with what that is, but it's basically just a hotel that's 00:05:57
tailored towards longer stays and it has a full kitchen. So cook top, refrigerator, refrigerator, microwave, uh, dishwasher, so on 00:06:04
and so forth. 00:06:10
Umm, it's really tailored towards traveling workers, construction teams, medical professional, military, military families, uh, 00:06:18
relocating families, general business travelers. 00:06:24
Digital nomads, government here, university type people. So we think the clientele and guests for the hotel will be well served. 00:06:30
We're super excited about this product. Umm, super excited to bring it to Vineyard. Umm, can't wait to work with the community and 00:06:38
uh, we hope to commit construction. 00:06:46
In the coming months, and it's usually 12 to 14 months, Bill, but we're gonna do everything we can to get the thing opened by 00:06:55
October, November of next year. Umm, like I said, we're here for any questions that you may have. 00:07:01
I don't know procedurally how you want to do that. You want to finish and then we opened up the questions or you guys tell me. 00:07:07
Yeah, we'll have Anthony finish up and then go for this question. Thank you so much. 00:07:12
Thanks, Jeremy. 00:07:20
So, umm. 00:07:29
I'll just go straight to the site plan. 00:07:31
So that is umm, the site plan that was presented, uh, to be approved as part of the package. And they had 122, uh, parking stalls, 00:07:36
uh, which met our code right on the minimum requirements, umm, 12 byte racks They have umm. 00:07:46
Pretty much, you know, all the accessibility, they met the minimum requirements for the accessible parking as well. And uh, they 00:07:57
have also, we've worked with them to be able to have umm, the exits and umm, entryways into this lot as accessible to, uh, its 00:08:06
users as it can be. Uh, we also recommended them to. 00:08:15
Create this walk in, you know, uh, crosswalk. 00:08:24
That is more visible. Before they had one that would just cross from here over to the side to the building, but then we had them 00:08:28
corrected to this l-shaped one, uh, stamped concrete that would be more visible and make, uh, pedestrians more safe, uh, walking 00:08:34
through the lot. 00:08:39
So with a landscaping plan, we work with them to get as many trees as are required in the code. However, umm, the percentage did 00:08:47
not quite, uh, get to the where where minimum requirements. So I was working with the, you know, the engineer, Brady Morris to 00:08:56
have this updated to meet that, that code. Currently it's about. 00:09:05
12 to 19% Umm. 00:09:14
But the code requires it to be about 20%. So from our discussions, they are probably gonna get it to about 20.1 based on, umm, the 00:09:18
changes that need to be done. Umm, and that would include making some of these umm, walkways, uh, pervious and umm, you know. 00:09:29
Just having a lot more landscaping, you know, features along, uh, this Pennsylvania past year around the building. 00:09:41
Uh, on the elevations we have this view being the one you see on the Geneva Rd. going to be the east view. 00:09:54
And that's going to be the the main entrance view, which is going to be the West elevation. 00:10:05
And both North and South elevations as well. 00:10:16
So, umm, as part of the conditions, we have a list of conditions here. Umm, that. 00:10:24
We recommend a staff to be met before as part of the con, uh, you know, approval. If you decide to approve this, then all these 00:10:31
are met. Umm, The first would be that the a potential meet all the building design requirements. Umm therefore by the city. 00:10:39
Applicants shall also make provisions for a site plan amendment, especially for the landscaping. 00:10:47
To accommodate, umm, the changes, the possible changes that could happen after our discussion because we're coordinating with new 00:10:56
dots right now. 00:11:00
Regarding the expansion of Geneva Rd. which could affect the landscaping along the Geneva roadside of their building on their 00:11:05
property. So, umm, we wanna have it in here as a condition for them to make provision to be available to do this change, to work 00:11:13
with U dot and the city when that happens. 00:11:20
Umm, as I mentioned earlier, the applicant would also have to provide an updated land landscaping plan to meet the minimum 00:11:31
requirements per percentage for the site. 00:11:36
And this is a standard condition that we have, which is that that applicant shall observe all the cities, uh, nuisance general 00:11:44
ordinances outlined in the, uh, municipal code. 00:11:50
So areas where pedestrian cross, uh. 00:11:56
Crosses the driveway shall be constructed of stamped concrete. 00:12:00
Or some other material that differentiates them from uh, vehicle being used in the, in the same site for safety reasons. And the 00:12:05
applicants are also comply with all requirements provided by the fire Marshall regarding fire access and maximize the safety and 00:12:13
convenience of pedestrian flow throughout the city. I mean throughout the site. 00:12:22
Now the applicant must also pay all outstanding fees. 00:12:32
And make any red line corrections, including the ones that we shared so far that apart from the landscaping, there isn't anything 00:12:36
umm that needs to be corrected. 00:12:41
In regards to the UH submission and UMM, applicant shall be subject to all federal, state and local laws as well. 00:12:48
So. 00:12:59
Staff recommends that umm this this umm. 00:13:01
Application for conditional use permit and umm you know the site plan be approved with these conditions. 00:13:08
Right. 00:13:19
Thanks, Anthony. Any questions from the Commission? 00:13:19
Alright, you wanna turn your microphone on? Thank you. Umm, one question, why did you guys go with stamp concrete? 00:13:24
Yeah, have you ever walked on it in the winter? 00:13:35
It's a city requirement, isn't it? It's a city requirement. 00:13:39
Consistent with the project. 00:13:44
Have you ever fallen on it? 00:13:50
But yeah, like the camp concrete in the winter gets ice and gets like the thin layer and people fall all the time. 00:13:54
Yeah, and one thing we consider doing instead of Sam Francisco. Yeah, No, the asphalt goes like not, it's not asleep, but my 00:14:03
father-in-law has stamped concrete all over his driveway and stuff because he thought it was cool. And my kids fall on it. 00:14:10
Everyone is like 20 kids fall. It's not fun. So. 00:14:18
I guess it looks cool and it's and it looks great, but. 00:14:27
It's not on the other part, OK. 00:14:33
You guys want to address that? 00:14:38
So during our last, umm, DRC, it was a recommendation by the engineer. Uh, that was something that came from the scene. So yeah. 00:14:41
And maybe a requirement from the standard. 00:14:48
Yeah, I can't provide engineer so. 00:14:56
I mean that that's something that we could have in the same look at. I mean, they're going to have their own liability issues. So 00:14:59
they're not going to put anything that's too slick and there is like stuff that you can put in it, like sand and stuff. But I 00:15:03
mean. 00:15:07
Umm, submit for our uh. 00:15:14
My observance for that. 00:15:18
So there's a technical review. 00:15:23
At that point. 00:15:27
As far as the stands, concrete in front of Top Golf, if they have any issues at all, I feel like they haven't. No, that's not that 00:15:31
that material. I don't know if that's standing. It's how, how, how. 00:15:37
So. 00:15:47
So maybe a suggestion would be to change that from a standstill and for you to could you go to the conditions Anthony on the 00:15:49
screen? 00:15:52
Because we have had issues with Samsung page. 00:15:57
Yeah. So the, the condition would allow us to kind of let staff determine what would be best used working with the applicant by, 00:16:03
you know, or other material and design to differentiate the area, especially in the important interface. So that's the biggest 00:16:09
thing is we're just trying to protect, you know, as as somebody's driving, they see a different color, they see different 00:16:14
material, umm, whether that is stamped concrete or asphalt or whatever it may be. We, we can work with them on that in the 00:16:20
technical review process. Yeah, Well, well. 00:16:26
So during that, during that process, we'll, we'll, uh, convey your, uh, your comments, umm, to, to the same. 00:16:32
Thank you. Any other questions, Brad? 00:16:39
OK, great. In the oven please. Yeah, I just have a couple of questions. As far as the, you know, business standpoint, how close 00:16:42
are your direct competitors or what else is there out there like just these kind of things? 00:16:50
Less than seven partners. So probably the closest competitor would be the Extended Stay America the last week in American sports, 00:17:00
it's still far below what we would consider a direct competitor. There's not a lot. You have a Hyatt House consultant girls, I 00:17:06
believe OK, which is an extended stay, a little bit of a higher end product as well, but not a lot actually in this market that we 00:17:12
would be. 00:17:18
Looking heavily with yeah, this is exciting and as far as you know business model, are people able to stay one night? Do people 00:17:25
stay a full? 00:17:31
Year, yeah. So we, our bread and butter is a week to two weeks. Umm, that's often optimizes the operating model. Umm, But yes, if 00:17:37
they wanna stay a night, we charge them for it. So it's a little bit more similar to a true or courtyard or something like that 00:17:44
where they're gonna pay $120.00 a night for one night. It just costs more to turn the room if they're only staying one night. But 00:17:51
by all means they can. Umm, but we typically do weekly. 00:17:59
Reservations, but we it's been known to have people say six months for a year plus if they want to, OK. 00:18:07
Very cool. And you mentioned one building is underway up north. Umm, how does that compare in size? So it's exactly the same as 00:18:14
our prototype design, umm. 00:18:20
That's the first little way to open. So it's scheduled open on Monday on the 26th. Guest rooms up there. And I gotta ask, uh, 00:18:28
we've got 122 parking here. How much is, uh, parking up there? So they do have one to one parking that's typically we see 00:18:36
nationwide. That's pretty standard requirements. Umm, our management portion of the company they manage this year, so of similar 00:18:43
products and their busiest hotels, they don't see more than 80% of the sales being used and we've seen that. 00:18:50
With our portfolio as well. So that's what we target, 70 to 80%. As long as we have that much, we really aren't concerned about a 00:18:58
little bit less parking than one to one. Yeah, get construction proven. So it's safe to say it's the same size of hotel 126 and 00:19:05
the number of parking spots is the same. So that one has 126. Well, I thought you mentioned here you're gonna have 126 parking 00:19:12
spells 122. 00:19:19
122 Oh, got you 122 yeah. And there are four more up there. OK. Yeah, so. 00:19:27
Cool, we're excited. Umm, and just to find out it it does mean Arizona code for parking. 00:19:34
Cool any other questions for you No, of course you got anything? No questions all right uh thank you guys for putting in that dog 00:19:42
area. That was a lot of money for questions uh, but yeah everything yeah I I saw that on the website that's why I brought it up in 00:19:48
the group meeting uh, it looks great umm. 00:19:55
Yeah, yeah, I didn't have any other questions either. Umm, sorry to have you guys here. Umm. That being said, does anybody wanna 00:20:03
make a motion? 00:20:06
You got it. 00:20:13
It went first. Yeah. You have the motion for him. 00:20:17
OK. 00:20:22
OK. 00:20:22
If I can beat you to it, I'm trying to find it as well. 00:20:42
So it's going to be so sample motion will be to approve the site plan and conditional use permit as requested by, you know, the 00:20:46
applicant, Randy Morris, umm, what the, you know, conditions provided if there isn't anything else you want to add to it. So I'm 00:20:53
going to approve the site plan and conditional use permits as requested by Brady Morris, the applicant with the conditions as 00:20:59
presented. 00:21:06
Try this again. 00:21:13
Second, all in favor. Aye. All right. Thanks again. OK, Thank you very much. 00:21:15
Alright, we do not have any work sessions, just staff Commission and committee report. 00:21:23
So in giving a staff update, we shared with the team earlier on about the grant that we received, the tax grant which was about 00:21:40
$129,000 to prepare. 00:21:47
You know, redesigned Mill Rd. to be a more safe. 00:21:55
You know, corridor, uh, we designed all the intersections, uh, I mean selected intersections as well as umm, preparing a way of 00:21:59
finding master plan for the entire city. Umm, we are at the state where we're about to push out an RFP to get consultants, umm, 00:22:08
you know, interest, like consultants to, you know, share their proposals with us and make a selection. So. 00:22:17
This should hopefully get out by Monday. 00:22:27
Of next week. 00:22:29
Assistant now we umm, we're in a good space and we will be engaging the Planning Commission, the BAC and obviously the rest of the 00:22:32
city and making these two plans work for us the. 00:22:38
Middle Roadside is going to tackle the missing link in the active transportation plan that really. 00:22:47
Solves the problem of, you know, active transportation uses and safety on the east side of the city and there will be treated 00:22:56
more, but in addition to the active application and update as well. So that's it for now. 00:23:04
Cool. And we'll have plenty of opportunity for the, uh, Commission to be a part of it. Most likely there'll be a steering 00:23:14
committee. I believe that's one that pay has indicated being on that side of the track that she, umm, would have interest in 00:23:20
sitting on. And there would be a spot for, for one more. Obviously we can't 3 And so if there's interest from it, it'll be a fun 00:23:26
one. So tackling to, uh, two major projects. Umm, the other thing too, I don't know if. 00:23:32
We introduced, introduced, uh, Madison Reed yet to, to you all. Madison Reed is excellent. She is in our community development 00:23:39
department working as a planning technician. 00:23:43
Umm recently graduated with her urban ecology degree from the University of Utah. She ran track umm, on on her team and uh, yeah, 00:23:49
it's just really excellent. I think you this is our. So this will be a month umm, on on the job and she's, she's doing a great 00:23:56
job. So we're really excited to have, uh, Madison. So please introduce yourselves to her and umm, yeah, she'll be a really 00:24:04
important part of kind of facilitating immediately. You know, Jenna's ready and our reports and staff reports prepared and. 00:24:11
Umm, or, you know, new uses, umm, put into the district use table. So working really closely with like our, our, uh, business 00:24:49
licensing, uh, employee and some other people throughout the city to, to kind of bolster our, our zoning code quite a bit more. 00:24:55
Umm, and that, I'm assuming maybe like October is when, uh, that'll come to the Planning Commission for review. Umm, so it'll be a 00:25:01
pretty good, uh, way for all of us to get to know the zoning code a little bit better. Umm, and the other projects that's gonna be 00:25:06
coming down the pipeline. 00:25:12
Planning Commission, hopefully August 7th, we're gonna have, umm, quite a few site plans. Uh, we have 4 site plans, uh, that we're 00:25:18
reviewing right now for Utah City, which does include the grocery store, umm, So August 7th we can hopefully, uh, have that 00:25:26
Planning Commission for review so they can get started on construction pretty soon. Umm, and then the fire station as well. We're 00:25:33
gonna be taking that through, umm, Planning Commission on August 7th and they're looking to start construction. 00:25:40
The next day if possible. 00:25:47
On that uh, so that's another exciting, uh, update in the city. Cool. 00:25:49
Good afternoon. I'm going to ask because it's July now, uh, Postal Service box. 00:25:56
Yeah, I did follow up with, uh, the post office, the post. 00:26:05
I know it's called the post director and the postmaster, and the comment that I had that delayed the whole process is because, 00:26:09
umm, we have, umm, we don't have the home, you know, the home mailboxes like it is in different cities where every home has its 00:26:16
own mailbox. We have a community, uh, style mailboxes and each of those ones have, umm, an outgoing mail slot. So that has been 00:26:24
one of the contributing factor to the reason why umm, they have. 00:26:31
Make this whole process. But according to them we are still conducting a study to justify the reason for really, you know, 00:26:39
bringing us mailbox in here. Yeah, just somewhere to drop off packages. I think one other potential update on that is we actually 00:26:45
one of the the biggest issues that we've had is finding the right person to talk to if you go up to the forum post service post 00:26:52
whatever billing, yeah. 00:26:59
They're always very busy and don't seem to have the time to talk to anybody. 00:27:07
But they actually came to our office, the one of the postmasters did, because they want to start talking about how mail is going 00:27:12
to work for the whole Utah City development and they really want to have an input on how those mailboxes are going to function. So 00:27:18
I think we have a way to have, you know, a good contact with somebody at the Postal Service that's willing to maybe help us out in 00:27:23
getting a post office box here. Y'all, OK. 00:27:29
John, uh, Curtis, he's doing a listening tour, I think it was August 5th or 7th here in Vineyard specifically for residents. Like 00:27:36
I signed up to talk to him about some other projects and stuff. Uh, but it's specifically he wanted to know, umm, and he's likely 00:27:42
to be our next senator as well, but specifically he wanted to know, uh, citizen needs for federal services. So I think that would 00:27:48
be a good example of one to go and talk to him. I know they're bringing SSA, IRS, other people to talk. I bet if you mentioned to 00:27:54
him. 00:28:00
We'd love to have post office there too. You could directly have that conversation and you can sign up for five minute increments 00:28:06
to actually talk and have the people there too. And that might make more movement happen than anything else. OK, when is that? Uh, 00:28:13
it was August 5th or 7th. OK, Umm, I'll look at my e-mail and I can forward you. It might still be a sign up spot. Perfect. You 00:28:21
know where that's located. Uh, they were doing it at, uh, what's the new credit union over there? Mountain America. 00:28:28
Or UCC Union Mountain America should isn't open yet. It's on the corner right by the UCC here. I'll just look it up. 00:28:36
First half. 00:28:45
If you use the one by the theater, there's just not a lot of space that you see you. 00:28:48
Pretty small because it's one of those like digital Credit Union. 00:28:53
Bye. 00:28:57
And the grand opening for a ton of people in there. I was calling. Maybe I'll just crammed in. Yeah, it's a lot smaller than their 00:28:59
typical layout. Yeah, he's doing it. It's August 5th, from 6th to 7:30. It's not America First Credit Union. OK. 00:29:06
Is where they're holding it umm, I do have one last little update uh, we should actually umm you mentioned mountain America credit 00:29:14
union should be opening sometime soon umm they're on mill Rd. there right on the corner as well as Jersey Mike's will be opening 00:29:20
up umm hopefully in the you know next week or two umm but yeah we've got we've had quite a few you know new businesses open in 00:29:26
that area the Kung Fu key and. 00:29:33
The ice cream, yeah, still melt. So we have quite a few businesses that are that are still coming to vineyards and helping the 00:29:39
yard fill up. 00:29:44
Michael awesome. Anything else from staff? That's everything Cool. Anything else from the Commission? I, I had a, a question and 00:29:49
maybe a request. So, umm, do we have any involvement in the discussion when they start discussing the umm, golf carts and how we 00:29:54
may change transportation around that or clarify rules? Is that something that Planning Commission needs to be considering? You 00:30:00
know, we haven't really been involved. It's more of the public right of way, But I mean, it could be. So I mean how we program 00:30:06
our. 00:30:12
To actually have like a good community layout structure. How do we change the road? So anything we could get maybe education wise 00:31:19
in a work session I think would be valuable. I know that we have looked at, we looked at a while back. I think it was, uh, ATVs. 00:31:25
I, I don't know all the weird acronyms, but umm, you know, side by side we, we look at those a couple years ago, umm, and I think 00:31:31
golf carts was one of those things that we looked at as well. Umm, now we're gonna be doing our lake trail and that will be 00:31:37
expanded to 15 feet, but honestly. 00:31:43
Route my thought would even be on the existing trail type system that we have. I think a lot of it is going to the different parts 00:32:19
to club houses, but it's probably gonna wanna people wanna have them down in the late front. So even minor adjustments or long 00:32:25
term findings or how we widen it how we sort of separation between bikes pedestrians, yeah cars. But it probably takes some of 00:32:31
that longer term signing to get it into some sort of. 00:32:37
Transportation. So Sam and I almost got run over. We really did. We were on a sidewalk talking with some engineers about adding a 00:32:44
across Tampa school and his first she was like a nine year old that she's taken the whole sidewalk. 00:32:49
Did not slow down. We all jumped off the sidewalk. So yeah, there's probably an appropriate place for him. But yeah, we definitely 00:32:55
need some rules that help help govern that if we if it's allowed. So. But there is a lot of them in the city and it's becoming 00:33:00
more and more. 00:33:05
Cool. There's nothing else from the Commission on staff then. Meeting adjourned. 00:33:11
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That's all. 00:00:00
Today is July 17th. This is the Vineyard Planning Commission meeting. It is. 00:00:02
So, 2:00 PM And we'll get right into things. Uh, Chris Primo is gonna give us an invocation and Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:07
Our Father in heaven we're very great bless you be here today every day Planning Commission and as public employees they respond 00:00:16
to this as we peer reviews tonight that we can be grateful for this nation that would be blindfolded constitution and the rights 00:00:22
of those who are coming to force today to to do work with their properties. Thankful for all you've given us for the city of Jesus 00:00:28
Christ. 00:00:34
Amen. 00:00:41
Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, 00:00:46
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:52
All right, thank you so much. All right, we will move into, uh, public comments if there are any. Doesn't look like they're gonna 00:01:01
be any public comments. We'll move into the consent items for approval. Umm, do I have a motion on that? Have you guys been able 00:01:06
to walk over the minutes? 00:01:11
I wasn't here for one of them, OK, so I wouldn't make it. 00:01:18
Either you guys want to make a motion on the consent items. 00:01:22
Just a minute, All right. Do I have a second? 00:01:29
All right. 00:01:37
OK. All right. Second from Graydon. All in favor, aye. All right, moving to business item 5.3. Anthony, I got it. 00:01:39
Into this one at the Liveway Suites and Hotel and the GR meals. 00:01:48
All right, so umm. 00:01:56
My name is Anthony and I will be presenting on the live away suites. Umm, we have an applicant to pull in. I mean submit an 00:01:58
application for conditional use permit and a side plan and we have applicants here today to answer any questions and tell us more 00:02:07
about the hotel. Umm, then I can go ahead and share my analysis as well. But before we do that I would like to. 00:02:15
Before we invite the applicant, I'd like to just give you a location context. 00:02:25
So umm, the site is going to be located right on Geneva Rd. 00:02:36
And. 00:02:41
The red section there is the area awareness site is the hotel site is going to be a close site. 00:02:44
So on the full side will be a combination of lot 204 and 205. In that area they apply for a final plan amendment which was 00:02:54
approved on the 20th of June with conditions, uh, there were a lot of umm, tax stuff that needed to be cleared. So, umm, that is a 00:03:01
condition. 00:03:08
Tending to be resolved before they can go ahead and record the plat. Umm. 00:03:17
The proposed project is located within our GRMU and uh, zone and that requires a conditional use permit for the kind of operations 00:03:23
of the hotel. So they have that application as part of this one. And I would leave this umm to the applicant right now to just 00:03:30
tell us a lot more about the the project. 00:03:38
All right. 00:03:49
Thank you very much for your time today and allowing us to be here. You said your name and. 00:03:51
Partners, the developer for this project also here is Kerry Simbley. She is our Director of Acquisitions and she will come up and 00:03:59
clarify anything that I don't know the answer to. Also with us is Brady Morris, who I'm sure some of you are familiar with. He is 00:04:07
with Enzyme Engineering and he is a civil engineer on this project and heavily involved with Anthony and the rest of the staff. 00:04:16
Uh, which expects the application and all that. So thanks Anthony for your brief summary on this. Like you said, this is going to 00:04:26
be a live away suite branded extended stay hotel. Umm, this is a new second few modern brand. It's not still product. Umm, it 00:04:34
caught us an exciting time. We are opening a hotel. 00:04:43
In West Jordan in days, probably next week. 00:04:52
Early next week. So we're excited to do that opening and, uh, you know, really get ourselves on the map. We also recently just 00:04:55
broke ground on a hotel, Liberty Suites, Brandon's hotel in Draper, umm. 00:05:01
I will let Anthony speak to condition, but we have already been through the staff report, umm, and we started addressing the 00:05:11
conditions that Anthony suggested, but we can talk about that in more detail later, uh, later. As far as the product itself, like 00:05:21
I said in some extended stay hotel, UMM has 126 guest rooms, 4 floors. 00:05:30
About 59,711 square feet and the composition of rooms about 60% single king, 40% double clean. Umm, I can show this picture. 00:05:39
So you guys can get a little idea of what the rooms look like. Sorry I didn't turn off a bunch of them, but I should give you a 00:05:51
general idea. Umm, extended stay. A lot of people aren't familiar with what that is, but it's basically just a hotel that's 00:05:57
tailored towards longer stays and it has a full kitchen. So cook top, refrigerator, refrigerator, microwave, uh, dishwasher, so on 00:06:04
and so forth. 00:06:10
Umm, it's really tailored towards traveling workers, construction teams, medical professional, military, military families, uh, 00:06:18
relocating families, general business travelers. 00:06:24
Digital nomads, government here, university type people. So we think the clientele and guests for the hotel will be well served. 00:06:30
We're super excited about this product. Umm, super excited to bring it to Vineyard. Umm, can't wait to work with the community and 00:06:38
uh, we hope to commit construction. 00:06:46
In the coming months, and it's usually 12 to 14 months, Bill, but we're gonna do everything we can to get the thing opened by 00:06:55
October, November of next year. Umm, like I said, we're here for any questions that you may have. 00:07:01
I don't know procedurally how you want to do that. You want to finish and then we opened up the questions or you guys tell me. 00:07:07
Yeah, we'll have Anthony finish up and then go for this question. Thank you so much. 00:07:12
Thanks, Jeremy. 00:07:20
So, umm. 00:07:29
I'll just go straight to the site plan. 00:07:31
So that is umm, the site plan that was presented, uh, to be approved as part of the package. And they had 122, uh, parking stalls, 00:07:36
uh, which met our code right on the minimum requirements, umm, 12 byte racks They have umm. 00:07:46
Pretty much, you know, all the accessibility, they met the minimum requirements for the accessible parking as well. And uh, they 00:07:57
have also, we've worked with them to be able to have umm, the exits and umm, entryways into this lot as accessible to, uh, its 00:08:06
users as it can be. Uh, we also recommended them to. 00:08:15
Create this walk in, you know, uh, crosswalk. 00:08:24
That is more visible. Before they had one that would just cross from here over to the side to the building, but then we had them 00:08:28
corrected to this l-shaped one, uh, stamped concrete that would be more visible and make, uh, pedestrians more safe, uh, walking 00:08:34
through the lot. 00:08:39
So with a landscaping plan, we work with them to get as many trees as are required in the code. However, umm, the percentage did 00:08:47
not quite, uh, get to the where where minimum requirements. So I was working with the, you know, the engineer, Brady Morris to 00:08:56
have this updated to meet that, that code. Currently it's about. 00:09:05
12 to 19% Umm. 00:09:14
But the code requires it to be about 20%. So from our discussions, they are probably gonna get it to about 20.1 based on, umm, the 00:09:18
changes that need to be done. Umm, and that would include making some of these umm, walkways, uh, pervious and umm, you know. 00:09:29
Just having a lot more landscaping, you know, features along, uh, this Pennsylvania past year around the building. 00:09:41
Uh, on the elevations we have this view being the one you see on the Geneva Rd. going to be the east view. 00:09:54
And that's going to be the the main entrance view, which is going to be the West elevation. 00:10:05
And both North and South elevations as well. 00:10:16
So, umm, as part of the conditions, we have a list of conditions here. Umm, that. 00:10:24
We recommend a staff to be met before as part of the con, uh, you know, approval. If you decide to approve this, then all these 00:10:31
are met. Umm, The first would be that the a potential meet all the building design requirements. Umm therefore by the city. 00:10:39
Applicants shall also make provisions for a site plan amendment, especially for the landscaping. 00:10:47
To accommodate, umm, the changes, the possible changes that could happen after our discussion because we're coordinating with new 00:10:56
dots right now. 00:11:00
Regarding the expansion of Geneva Rd. which could affect the landscaping along the Geneva roadside of their building on their 00:11:05
property. So, umm, we wanna have it in here as a condition for them to make provision to be available to do this change, to work 00:11:13
with U dot and the city when that happens. 00:11:20
Umm, as I mentioned earlier, the applicant would also have to provide an updated land landscaping plan to meet the minimum 00:11:31
requirements per percentage for the site. 00:11:36
And this is a standard condition that we have, which is that that applicant shall observe all the cities, uh, nuisance general 00:11:44
ordinances outlined in the, uh, municipal code. 00:11:50
So areas where pedestrian cross, uh. 00:11:56
Crosses the driveway shall be constructed of stamped concrete. 00:12:00
Or some other material that differentiates them from uh, vehicle being used in the, in the same site for safety reasons. And the 00:12:05
applicants are also comply with all requirements provided by the fire Marshall regarding fire access and maximize the safety and 00:12:13
convenience of pedestrian flow throughout the city. I mean throughout the site. 00:12:22
Now the applicant must also pay all outstanding fees. 00:12:32
And make any red line corrections, including the ones that we shared so far that apart from the landscaping, there isn't anything 00:12:36
umm that needs to be corrected. 00:12:41
In regards to the UH submission and UMM, applicant shall be subject to all federal, state and local laws as well. 00:12:48
So. 00:12:59
Staff recommends that umm this this umm. 00:13:01
Application for conditional use permit and umm you know the site plan be approved with these conditions. 00:13:08
Right. 00:13:19
Thanks, Anthony. Any questions from the Commission? 00:13:19
Alright, you wanna turn your microphone on? Thank you. Umm, one question, why did you guys go with stamp concrete? 00:13:24
Yeah, have you ever walked on it in the winter? 00:13:35
It's a city requirement, isn't it? It's a city requirement. 00:13:39
Consistent with the project. 00:13:44
Have you ever fallen on it? 00:13:50
But yeah, like the camp concrete in the winter gets ice and gets like the thin layer and people fall all the time. 00:13:54
Yeah, and one thing we consider doing instead of Sam Francisco. Yeah, No, the asphalt goes like not, it's not asleep, but my 00:14:03
father-in-law has stamped concrete all over his driveway and stuff because he thought it was cool. And my kids fall on it. 00:14:10
Everyone is like 20 kids fall. It's not fun. So. 00:14:18
I guess it looks cool and it's and it looks great, but. 00:14:27
It's not on the other part, OK. 00:14:33
You guys want to address that? 00:14:38
So during our last, umm, DRC, it was a recommendation by the engineer. Uh, that was something that came from the scene. So yeah. 00:14:41
And maybe a requirement from the standard. 00:14:48
Yeah, I can't provide engineer so. 00:14:56
I mean that that's something that we could have in the same look at. I mean, they're going to have their own liability issues. So 00:14:59
they're not going to put anything that's too slick and there is like stuff that you can put in it, like sand and stuff. But I 00:15:03
mean. 00:15:07
Umm, submit for our uh. 00:15:14
My observance for that. 00:15:18
So there's a technical review. 00:15:23
At that point. 00:15:27
As far as the stands, concrete in front of Top Golf, if they have any issues at all, I feel like they haven't. No, that's not that 00:15:31
that material. I don't know if that's standing. It's how, how, how. 00:15:37
So. 00:15:47
So maybe a suggestion would be to change that from a standstill and for you to could you go to the conditions Anthony on the 00:15:49
screen? 00:15:52
Because we have had issues with Samsung page. 00:15:57
Yeah. So the, the condition would allow us to kind of let staff determine what would be best used working with the applicant by, 00:16:03
you know, or other material and design to differentiate the area, especially in the important interface. So that's the biggest 00:16:09
thing is we're just trying to protect, you know, as as somebody's driving, they see a different color, they see different 00:16:14
material, umm, whether that is stamped concrete or asphalt or whatever it may be. We, we can work with them on that in the 00:16:20
technical review process. Yeah, Well, well. 00:16:26
So during that, during that process, we'll, we'll, uh, convey your, uh, your comments, umm, to, to the same. 00:16:32
Thank you. Any other questions, Brad? 00:16:39
OK, great. In the oven please. Yeah, I just have a couple of questions. As far as the, you know, business standpoint, how close 00:16:42
are your direct competitors or what else is there out there like just these kind of things? 00:16:50
Less than seven partners. So probably the closest competitor would be the Extended Stay America the last week in American sports, 00:17:00
it's still far below what we would consider a direct competitor. There's not a lot. You have a Hyatt House consultant girls, I 00:17:06
believe OK, which is an extended stay, a little bit of a higher end product as well, but not a lot actually in this market that we 00:17:12
would be. 00:17:18
Looking heavily with yeah, this is exciting and as far as you know business model, are people able to stay one night? Do people 00:17:25
stay a full? 00:17:31
Year, yeah. So we, our bread and butter is a week to two weeks. Umm, that's often optimizes the operating model. Umm, But yes, if 00:17:37
they wanna stay a night, we charge them for it. So it's a little bit more similar to a true or courtyard or something like that 00:17:44
where they're gonna pay $120.00 a night for one night. It just costs more to turn the room if they're only staying one night. But 00:17:51
by all means they can. Umm, but we typically do weekly. 00:17:59
Reservations, but we it's been known to have people say six months for a year plus if they want to, OK. 00:18:07
Very cool. And you mentioned one building is underway up north. Umm, how does that compare in size? So it's exactly the same as 00:18:14
our prototype design, umm. 00:18:20
That's the first little way to open. So it's scheduled open on Monday on the 26th. Guest rooms up there. And I gotta ask, uh, 00:18:28
we've got 122 parking here. How much is, uh, parking up there? So they do have one to one parking that's typically we see 00:18:36
nationwide. That's pretty standard requirements. Umm, our management portion of the company they manage this year, so of similar 00:18:43
products and their busiest hotels, they don't see more than 80% of the sales being used and we've seen that. 00:18:50
With our portfolio as well. So that's what we target, 70 to 80%. As long as we have that much, we really aren't concerned about a 00:18:58
little bit less parking than one to one. Yeah, get construction proven. So it's safe to say it's the same size of hotel 126 and 00:19:05
the number of parking spots is the same. So that one has 126. Well, I thought you mentioned here you're gonna have 126 parking 00:19:12
spells 122. 00:19:19
122 Oh, got you 122 yeah. And there are four more up there. OK. Yeah, so. 00:19:27
Cool, we're excited. Umm, and just to find out it it does mean Arizona code for parking. 00:19:34
Cool any other questions for you No, of course you got anything? No questions all right uh thank you guys for putting in that dog 00:19:42
area. That was a lot of money for questions uh, but yeah everything yeah I I saw that on the website that's why I brought it up in 00:19:48
the group meeting uh, it looks great umm. 00:19:55
Yeah, yeah, I didn't have any other questions either. Umm, sorry to have you guys here. Umm. That being said, does anybody wanna 00:20:03
make a motion? 00:20:06
You got it. 00:20:13
It went first. Yeah. You have the motion for him. 00:20:17
OK. 00:20:22
OK. 00:20:22
If I can beat you to it, I'm trying to find it as well. 00:20:42
So it's going to be so sample motion will be to approve the site plan and conditional use permit as requested by, you know, the 00:20:46
applicant, Randy Morris, umm, what the, you know, conditions provided if there isn't anything else you want to add to it. So I'm 00:20:53
going to approve the site plan and conditional use permits as requested by Brady Morris, the applicant with the conditions as 00:20:59
presented. 00:21:06
Try this again. 00:21:13
Second, all in favor. Aye. All right. Thanks again. OK, Thank you very much. 00:21:15
Alright, we do not have any work sessions, just staff Commission and committee report. 00:21:23
So in giving a staff update, we shared with the team earlier on about the grant that we received, the tax grant which was about 00:21:40
$129,000 to prepare. 00:21:47
You know, redesigned Mill Rd. to be a more safe. 00:21:55
You know, corridor, uh, we designed all the intersections, uh, I mean selected intersections as well as umm, preparing a way of 00:21:59
finding master plan for the entire city. Umm, we are at the state where we're about to push out an RFP to get consultants, umm, 00:22:08
you know, interest, like consultants to, you know, share their proposals with us and make a selection. So. 00:22:17
This should hopefully get out by Monday. 00:22:27
Of next week. 00:22:29
Assistant now we umm, we're in a good space and we will be engaging the Planning Commission, the BAC and obviously the rest of the 00:22:32
city and making these two plans work for us the. 00:22:38
Middle Roadside is going to tackle the missing link in the active transportation plan that really. 00:22:47
Solves the problem of, you know, active transportation uses and safety on the east side of the city and there will be treated 00:22:56
more, but in addition to the active application and update as well. So that's it for now. 00:23:04
Cool. And we'll have plenty of opportunity for the, uh, Commission to be a part of it. Most likely there'll be a steering 00:23:14
committee. I believe that's one that pay has indicated being on that side of the track that she, umm, would have interest in 00:23:20
sitting on. And there would be a spot for, for one more. Obviously we can't 3 And so if there's interest from it, it'll be a fun 00:23:26
one. So tackling to, uh, two major projects. Umm, the other thing too, I don't know if. 00:23:32
We introduced, introduced, uh, Madison Reed yet to, to you all. Madison Reed is excellent. She is in our community development 00:23:39
department working as a planning technician. 00:23:43
Umm recently graduated with her urban ecology degree from the University of Utah. She ran track umm, on on her team and uh, yeah, 00:23:49
it's just really excellent. I think you this is our. So this will be a month umm, on on the job and she's, she's doing a great 00:23:56
job. So we're really excited to have, uh, Madison. So please introduce yourselves to her and umm, yeah, she'll be a really 00:24:04
important part of kind of facilitating immediately. You know, Jenna's ready and our reports and staff reports prepared and. 00:24:11
Umm, or, you know, new uses, umm, put into the district use table. So working really closely with like our, our, uh, business 00:24:49
licensing, uh, employee and some other people throughout the city to, to kind of bolster our, our zoning code quite a bit more. 00:24:55
Umm, and that, I'm assuming maybe like October is when, uh, that'll come to the Planning Commission for review. Umm, so it'll be a 00:25:01
pretty good, uh, way for all of us to get to know the zoning code a little bit better. Umm, and the other projects that's gonna be 00:25:06
coming down the pipeline. 00:25:12
Planning Commission, hopefully August 7th, we're gonna have, umm, quite a few site plans. Uh, we have 4 site plans, uh, that we're 00:25:18
reviewing right now for Utah City, which does include the grocery store, umm, So August 7th we can hopefully, uh, have that 00:25:26
Planning Commission for review so they can get started on construction pretty soon. Umm, and then the fire station as well. We're 00:25:33
gonna be taking that through, umm, Planning Commission on August 7th and they're looking to start construction. 00:25:40
The next day if possible. 00:25:47
On that uh, so that's another exciting, uh, update in the city. Cool. 00:25:49
Good afternoon. I'm going to ask because it's July now, uh, Postal Service box. 00:25:56
Yeah, I did follow up with, uh, the post office, the post. 00:26:05
I know it's called the post director and the postmaster, and the comment that I had that delayed the whole process is because, 00:26:09
umm, we have, umm, we don't have the home, you know, the home mailboxes like it is in different cities where every home has its 00:26:16
own mailbox. We have a community, uh, style mailboxes and each of those ones have, umm, an outgoing mail slot. So that has been 00:26:24
one of the contributing factor to the reason why umm, they have. 00:26:31
Make this whole process. But according to them we are still conducting a study to justify the reason for really, you know, 00:26:39
bringing us mailbox in here. Yeah, just somewhere to drop off packages. I think one other potential update on that is we actually 00:26:45
one of the the biggest issues that we've had is finding the right person to talk to if you go up to the forum post service post 00:26:52
whatever billing, yeah. 00:26:59
They're always very busy and don't seem to have the time to talk to anybody. 00:27:07
But they actually came to our office, the one of the postmasters did, because they want to start talking about how mail is going 00:27:12
to work for the whole Utah City development and they really want to have an input on how those mailboxes are going to function. So 00:27:18
I think we have a way to have, you know, a good contact with somebody at the Postal Service that's willing to maybe help us out in 00:27:23
getting a post office box here. Y'all, OK. 00:27:29
John, uh, Curtis, he's doing a listening tour, I think it was August 5th or 7th here in Vineyard specifically for residents. Like 00:27:36
I signed up to talk to him about some other projects and stuff. Uh, but it's specifically he wanted to know, umm, and he's likely 00:27:42
to be our next senator as well, but specifically he wanted to know, uh, citizen needs for federal services. So I think that would 00:27:48
be a good example of one to go and talk to him. I know they're bringing SSA, IRS, other people to talk. I bet if you mentioned to 00:27:54
him. 00:28:00
We'd love to have post office there too. You could directly have that conversation and you can sign up for five minute increments 00:28:06
to actually talk and have the people there too. And that might make more movement happen than anything else. OK, when is that? Uh, 00:28:13
it was August 5th or 7th. OK, Umm, I'll look at my e-mail and I can forward you. It might still be a sign up spot. Perfect. You 00:28:21
know where that's located. Uh, they were doing it at, uh, what's the new credit union over there? Mountain America. 00:28:28
Or UCC Union Mountain America should isn't open yet. It's on the corner right by the UCC here. I'll just look it up. 00:28:36
First half. 00:28:45
If you use the one by the theater, there's just not a lot of space that you see you. 00:28:48
Pretty small because it's one of those like digital Credit Union. 00:28:53
Bye. 00:28:57
And the grand opening for a ton of people in there. I was calling. Maybe I'll just crammed in. Yeah, it's a lot smaller than their 00:28:59
typical layout. Yeah, he's doing it. It's August 5th, from 6th to 7:30. It's not America First Credit Union. OK. 00:29:06
Is where they're holding it umm, I do have one last little update uh, we should actually umm you mentioned mountain America credit 00:29:14
union should be opening sometime soon umm they're on mill Rd. there right on the corner as well as Jersey Mike's will be opening 00:29:20
up umm hopefully in the you know next week or two umm but yeah we've got we've had quite a few you know new businesses open in 00:29:26
that area the Kung Fu key and. 00:29:33
The ice cream, yeah, still melt. So we have quite a few businesses that are that are still coming to vineyards and helping the 00:29:39
yard fill up. 00:29:44
Michael awesome. Anything else from staff? That's everything Cool. Anything else from the Commission? I, I had a, a question and 00:29:49
maybe a request. So, umm, do we have any involvement in the discussion when they start discussing the umm, golf carts and how we 00:29:54
may change transportation around that or clarify rules? Is that something that Planning Commission needs to be considering? You 00:30:00
know, we haven't really been involved. It's more of the public right of way, But I mean, it could be. So I mean how we program 00:30:06
our. 00:30:12
To actually have like a good community layout structure. How do we change the road? So anything we could get maybe education wise 00:31:19
in a work session I think would be valuable. I know that we have looked at, we looked at a while back. I think it was, uh, ATVs. 00:31:25
I, I don't know all the weird acronyms, but umm, you know, side by side we, we look at those a couple years ago, umm, and I think 00:31:31
golf carts was one of those things that we looked at as well. Umm, now we're gonna be doing our lake trail and that will be 00:31:37
expanded to 15 feet, but honestly. 00:31:43
Route my thought would even be on the existing trail type system that we have. I think a lot of it is going to the different parts 00:32:19
to club houses, but it's probably gonna wanna people wanna have them down in the late front. So even minor adjustments or long 00:32:25
term findings or how we widen it how we sort of separation between bikes pedestrians, yeah cars. But it probably takes some of 00:32:31
that longer term signing to get it into some sort of. 00:32:37
Transportation. So Sam and I almost got run over. We really did. We were on a sidewalk talking with some engineers about adding a 00:32:44
across Tampa school and his first she was like a nine year old that she's taken the whole sidewalk. 00:32:49
Did not slow down. We all jumped off the sidewalk. So yeah, there's probably an appropriate place for him. But yeah, we definitely 00:32:55
need some rules that help help govern that if we if it's allowed. So. But there is a lot of them in the city and it's becoming 00:33:00
more and more. 00:33:05
Cool. There's nothing else from the Commission on staff then. Meeting adjourned. 00:33:11
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