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CALLTOORDER/INVOCATION Chair Naseem Ghandour called the meeting to order at03am.  
WORK SESSION   Items2 and1 were rotated in order of presentation for the staff at the meeting.  1.
GRMUOfficeBuilding-SitePlan
Planner Hancey presented a background including informational details and location. He discussed the purpose and intent of the office building and the progress in the plan review. Comments about the sign lighting were made. Planner Hancey presented an updated site plan that addressed some comments from engineering. He briefed the adjustments that were made. The access points were presented.
Chair Ghandour asked to see the location on an aerial map. He also asked if it was a medical office. Chair Ghandour commented on the Public Utility Easement to ensure there is no impact on utilities and discussed footings.   Preston Jenson, Parks and Recreation Representative, arrived at10am.
Chair Ghandour asked if there was a guideline for the distance between the dumpster and the trail.   Planner Hancey responded in saying not necessarily as long as there is adequate shielding from the trees and shrubs. There will be an enclosure around it.
Chair Ghandour noted that there is an opportunity for some artistic features on the enclosure.   Planner Hancey noted that there is a requirement for the elevations of the enclosure with materials.
Phil Winston with Altus Development asked if they had examples for what they are looking for.   Planner Hancey noted that the applicant can look at things by Mister Carwash. He noted that they just want to know the materials as the requirement is not super strict.
Mr. Winston noted that they generally do a steel enclosure that is attractive looking and is durable, but that they have done plenty of rock and brick.   Planner Hancey noted that he would have to look at the code, but it is normally left up to the applicant.
Mr. Winston noted that they will get with their engineer about the footing.   Chair Ghandour asked about the wall between the parking lot.
Planner Hancey noted that it is a landscaping wall that will be installed by the Edgewater development. It will have a gate for pedestrian access. Planner Hancey noted that he would double check.   Chair Ghandour noted that if there is a gate for pedestrians there needs to be a walkway.
Planner Hancey presented the elevations and added that they meet the glazing requirement and the building height requirements. He pointed out the sign that he previously commented on. He noted that the landscaping plan needed updating for parking and the setback. He presented the photometric plan with no lighting spillover.
Planner Hancey listed the comments: no concern with parking as they have more than the required number of stalls, suggestions for a pedestrian entrance on the east side that would be mostly for employee use, requested materials board and elevations for the dumpster enclosure, updated landscaping information, review tree and shrub spacing along Geneva Road.
Mr. Winston noted that they are not aware of any requirement for the fence. He asked if they needed to get together with Edgewater for the walkway.   Planner Hancey noted that he reviewed that site plan a year or so ago and that he recalled that gate. He announced that he would look into it and let the applicant know.   Mr. Winston said he is okay with it but that the gate and wall is not their requirement.   Planner Hancey noted that it would all be done through them but if it is all done and leads to a parking spot that it would then be up to the applicant.
Mr. Winston noted that they were not aware of it but acknowledged that they are happy to work with that.
Mr. James commented on the sidewalk facing the parking in that the cars would overhand on the sidewalk and that they may need to extend the sidewalk so that it meets the requirements.   Mr. Winston mentioned that they could add a curb stop.   Mr. James discussed how the stall is not long enough to fit a curb stop.
Mr. Winston noted that they could look into that and adjust them to make it angled parking. He asked about the straight parking requirements.   Mr. James discussed the numbers of the requirements and the length that could work.   Chair Ghandour acknowledged angled parking for ADA. He asked to make sure that is considered.
Mr. James noted he did not see a landscaping plan but to make sure that deep rooted plants are not located next to the water meter or fire hydrant.
Mr. Johnson commented on the fire protection system and asked to know where the firizer room is so they know where the fire hydrant placement is.   Chair Ghandour added that the applicant should look at the ordinance for the fire suppression system.
Mr. Winston asked if Vineyard had Fire Marshalls.   Deputy Valley said yes there is a Deputy Fire Marshall assigned: Brandon Valley.
Deputy Valley noted that approval comes with acknowledgement that the applicant follows the regulations on fire hydrant placement. He noted it would be beneficial to get the underground inspection in ahead of time.   Mr. Winston noted that they know those requirements.   Deputy Valley noted that they need the21 international fire code instead of18.
Mr. Johnson added the codes are supposed to be21 as well.
Mr. Winston noted he would code update to21.   Planner Hancey mentioned he is gathering notes to send over.    Mr. Winston clarified the codes that need to be updated to21.   Chair Ghandour noted that as long as they are following state codes, they should be fine.
Planner Hancey outlined the forward progress. Deputy Valley added that there is an upcoming change for separating the alarm and sprinkler plans into their own plans. He added that they need to be third party reviewed.
Mr. Winston clarified who they need to be reviewed by.   Deputy Valley listed some people that could review.
Mr. Winston mentioned that they could get these comments turned around. He asked how they get to planning commission.   Planner Hancey outlined the process and listed the comments.   There were no further comments.  3.
VineyardEastlakeatGenevaIndustrialBusinessParkPhase11-Site Plan   Senior Planner Cache Hancey provided a map to orient and discussed the background and description of the site. He presented the site plan where he noted the three entrances. He commented that he discussed aligning them with the surrounding properties. He reviewed the comments specifically on landscaping. He presented the elevations and the landscaping plan.
Staff Engineer Patrick James commented on the need for a water study and that retention area needs to be tested for how fast the water will be percolated in the ground. He also added thew need for a fire hydrant in regulation area.   Chair Ghandour asked if there were comments on the driveways.   Mr. James noted that they need to review an access point because of the left turn conflicts.
Chris Kephart with UPU noted that aligning the approaches up would change the whole layout.   Mr. James noted that they may be able to angle the road.
Chair Ghandour discussed the conflict and the necessity for the adjustment in approach.
Mr. Kephart asked if they could widen it.   Chair Ghandour said that they could widen it and strip it for trucks.
Mr. James highlighted why there is conflict.   Chair Ghandour discussed the process of approval and how they address concerns.
Building Director Cris Johnson mentioned the need for the fire hydrant adjustment.   Chair Ghandour discussed the water study for utilities.
Deputy Fire Marshall Brandon Valley asked if it was a warehouse. He wanted to know about the sprinkler system.   Mr. Kephart provided that information.   Deputy Valley commented that they should be aware of the sprinkler and alarm system.   Mr. Kephart noted that they made it clear that the construction could expand so they needed it as high as they could.   Deputy Valley noted that future tenants should be aware of any modifications.
Planner Hancey noted that he will forward the comments and then they could get them on the next planning commission.
The applicant asked if they could exceed the curb cut limit.   Chair Ghandour said that they could make exceptions for things like a special use condition. He mentioned to get in touch with Patrick.   There were no further comments.  2.
HoldawayFieldsLDSChurch-Site Plan
Planner Anthony Fletcher discussed the site and its purpose. He provided the location and details of the building. He presented the elevations and materials. He discussed the time that it would run. He presented the plans and noted that they provided more parking than required. A comment was that the parking numbers needed to be the same on all sheets. Planner Fletcher also noted that the lighting needed to be warm colored lighting, according to our code. He also recognized that lighting by the entrance and exit needed to be better lit.
David Peterson, the representative present for the church, asked if it was the entrance to the site of the building.   Planner Fletcher responded in saying entrance to the site. Another comment made was on landscaping. He acknowledged the progress of this site plan and that the approved final plat needs to be recorded to move forward.
Mr. Peterson clarified that the plat needs to be recorded before the site plan can go to planning commission. He updated the committee on where they are at.   Planner Hancey noted that the plat is waiting on signatures with the church.   Chair Ghandour asked Planner Hancey to get the answer on an unrelated question from Nate.
Mr. James discussed that they were doing reviews for this site.
Chair Ghandour asked to coordinate with Mr. James about the paving and landscaping.   Planner Hancey addressed the example Chair Ghandour discussed.
Chair Ghandour discussed street parking for convenience and to improve landscaping to discourage illegal parking.   Planner Hancey asked to investigate how the trail was placed as it may impact the landscaping.
Mr. Peterson asked for a list of comments.   Planner Hancey discussed the timeline for planning commission.
The topic of bylaws was addressed as it was not on this agenda.           STAFF,COMMISSION, ANDCOMMITTEE REPORTS
Planner Hancey apologized for not sending out the agenda and noted that he is open to feedback on how to make these meetings run smoothly. Planner Fletcher asked the team to review the bylaws before the next discussion on it.          CONSENT ITEMS   There were no consent items.         BUSINESSITEMS There were no business items.
ADJOURNMENT   ERIC ELLIS MOTIONED TO ADJOURN THE MEETING AT58AM. CRIS JOHNSON SECONDED. ROLL FOR YES WENT AS FOLLOWS: JOHNSON, VALLEY, GHANDOUR, AND ELLIS.   MINUTES CERTIFIED COMPLETE ON: Octoberd,24     CERTIFIED (NOTICED) BY:                                                 Madison Reed, Planning Technician.
There's a good time and everyone and they're, uh, and I went there. 00:00:01
I would gain my surface form. You guys checked down with having a hard time because always asking questions as well. Uh-huh. And 00:00:06
then that's how we're going to, uh, it'll be fine. And uh, and I wrote it down. 00:00:12
Uh, part of the reason that that, that I think, I think we got that was 5800 and, uh. 00:00:19
Uh, the table. But the terrible thing is about hiring the Glee box cable and I'll save myself. 00:00:27
Like I was like. 00:00:35
Andy, 'cause we're like, I wanna mention something else. You're welcome. I'll do that again. All over the dogs. We need to go 00:00:46
away, run by. Yeah. 00:00:52
Approval. Whatever. 00:01:05
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OK. 00:01:49
My ecology in order just call stores. 00:01:51
All right, so the development review committee, April 4th, uh, 2024, uh, is now in order. Uh, so in regards to this, uh, on the 00:01:55
agenda that we have. So do I have to say my name and the number cash? What was that? Do we have to reduce ourselves to you? No, 00:02:03
it's physically here. You, you should be OK. You do not have to do. Thank you, Sir. 00:02:12
So, alright, uh, so I'm here. We have, uh, on our agenda. We have a few items, uh, and I was uh. 00:02:22
And with the items that we have, we have, let me pull it up, but the items, uh, one and two, we're going to be switching around in 00:02:31
order to help facilitate, uh, attendees who are, uh, here. So we have, umm. 00:02:38
That's on our work day. So we have 3 items on our work session. Uh, the first time being junior you play and, uh, do you need the 00:02:46
industrial, uh, business park phase 11 sites plan? Uh, I #2 is at GRMU office billing site plan and I'm #3 is the whole of the 00:02:53
fields LDS Church site plan. Is there any other items cash that would be, that would be alright. Uh, so we were, uh, it was 00:03:00
requested that, uh, we switched items to 2.1 and 2.2, uh, the DRMU with, uh. 00:03:08
To go first, uh, and Geneva industrial business park to go second. So that would be official motion. Great. Yeah, I just work 00:03:16
sessions we can all right. So, uh, so that's, that's the way we're, uh, so we're gonna go ahead and, uh, allow the Gru office 00:03:22
building site plan to, uh, go 1st And uh, actually there's a staff report, uh, presentation by cash advance. Yep, I do have a, a 00:03:28
brief report here and we also do have the applicants here as well in case there's, uh, any other questions that definitely have. 00:03:34
Umm, and is this is a short. 00:03:40
Umm, if you guys do have any questions about the site plan as I review it, feel free to stop me and we can hopefully address those 00:03:46
umm as we go on umm, a little background on the site. This is an office building, A2 story office building about a little under 00:03:54
4400 square feet located in the GRMUI have the platformed up here. It's lot 203 umm, so it does the back onto that uh Edgewater 00:04:01
parking lot that will be the the West of this project Geneva Rd. up to the east umm and then. 00:04:08
Uh, I believe the two lots, uh, North and South are currently undeveloped and we do not have guidance for that quite yet. 00:04:16
Umm, thank you. This is the. 00:04:25
A view of of where it will be located. 00:04:27
Come back to here. So as I mentioned, this is part of the GRMU, it's Altus development group. It's going to be the ones uh, 00:04:31
developing this project umm, about the property on your which is vineyard vision holdings and I believe they will be one of the 00:04:38
tenants. It's gonna be an eye care umm, So it's an office building generally, umm, used for medical uses, umm, and, and 00:04:44
miscellaneous office umm, as, as you know, as needed. 00:04:50
Umm, as far as the planning review goes, uh, everything looks great. They, they had a great scope of work here where they, they 00:04:57
talked about the maintenance of the property that it'll be well cared for, will not have any kind of. 00:05:02
Uh, impact, impacts on the, the neighboring properties. That is an office. It's not gonna have, you know, loud sounds. It's not 00:05:08
like the car wash to the South where we have to put up that sound wall. Umm, you know, nothing like that should, should impact 00:05:14
this. Umm, we have mentioned that or on, on the West side of the building, there is a proposed sign. And so we've talked to them 00:05:20
about making sure that, that when that permit comes in that the sign, umm, does turn off at a certain hour, the lighting on it so 00:05:26
it doesn't impact. 00:05:32
Edgewater townhomes off to the West. Umm So with that, I will just go right into the site plan and they did send in an updated 00:05:38
site plan, uh, I believe yesterday or the day before. Umm, addressing a lot of the comments that the planning and engineering did 00:05:45
have. Uh, the biggest was there was there's a 15 foot umm, landscaping set back requirement along Geneva Rd. Umm, and that also 00:05:53
put the building outside of the PUE umm, And so they did that and in doing so, they did have to ship some of the parking. 00:06:00
Here, which did reduce some of the parking, umm, but they're still within the, the required parking numbers. Umm, they also did 00:06:08
shift to the location of the dumpster to get a little bit further away from the, the future, uh, Geneva Trail that's gonna be 00:06:15
going in place. Umm, and they're, they're putting some landscaping to help shield that. Umm, yeah, this is a site plan. You see, 00:06:23
it has the Access Rd. off gear to the east. And that's how the Gru's design is to have this access Rd. come in off of UH-400 S. 00:06:30
100 N sorry, 400 N umm, and then I think there's two or three different exits on Geneva Rd. umm, but this whole site will be 00:06:38
accessed through this one Rd. here. 00:06:43
Umm, let me get to some elevations and go back to that area. I'm sorry. Yeah, of course you were talking. You were talking about 00:06:51
sitting down. 00:06:55
So the aerial map, oh, the aerial map or the either or the county does work Either one, yeah. Where is this one at? I believe it's 00:07:00
about right here. Uh. 00:07:04
This is an Echo office. 00:07:19
Uh, Med medical use, which is an allowed use within the GRM use? OK. 00:07:21
Cool. Umm, OK, when I am on the POV specifically, I know that, uh, you said that there was a 15 set back. There was a 15 set back 00:07:31
for the DOE Uh, excuse me, uh, out there for the landscaping and shipping outside of Pee Wee. I know that, uh, I just wanna have 00:07:38
to make sure there's really a condition on that would be just be in regards to. 00:07:46
Uh, the, uh, foundations like the, the federation and so forth should, needs to be, uh, designed to ensure that there's no, uh, 00:07:54
impact on any time utilities. I mean, and, uh, you can ask to talk to with engineering specifically a little bit more, umm, but I 00:08:00
mean, with. 00:08:06
I don't wanna go ahead and put a specific, umm, uh, number on the set on how far back the building needs to be because, uh, again, 00:08:12
depending on how deep the, uh, utilities would be there, uh, your, your, uh, foundation engineer special here, I'll be able to 00:08:19
tell you that those, uh, forces that may be impacting utilities, if you're found, if the Federated, the bomber foundation is above 00:08:27
the utilities, there's a territory area that's, that's put down. 00:08:34
Additional pressures. So it would just be, you know, I mean, we're not gonna sit here and I won't we won't design for you. But 00:08:42
oftentimes the option is deeper footers to get the get the pressures and forces away from the utilities and some people who choose 00:08:48
not to do deeper their buildings from the back. So I just wanna make sure that's, you know, that's understanding the conditions on 00:08:55
us. 00:09:02
So, uh, I know because we ran into that in the past and we've never, I mean, usually every instance about the, they chose, they 00:09:09
chose to, umm, they chose to revise their, uh, foundation, uh, the, a few people chose to push their building docs because they 00:09:18
have the space. Yeah. Umm, so that would be that the dumpster that goes along the trail is there, is there, uh, a distance, uh. 00:09:27
You know that this the defining department would like umm. 00:09:37
To have, uh, the back end dumpster from the, so because I know that not necessarily as, as long as there's adequate shielding 00:09:41
with, with vegetation, whether it's trees or shrubs, umm, and it will be as our requirement and we'll have an enclosure around it. 00:09:48
So it's not just that, you know, loose pumps are out there. Yeah. Umm, So I think when, umm, again, I'll let the planning office 00:09:55
be the ones who can, uh, talk this through, but it might be an opportunity for during the sight finding and, uh. 00:10:02
The final approvals for the building, uh, building, uh, building on it for the, uh, maybe, uh, talk to the buying office about 00:10:11
custom artistic features. Umm, that downstairs closure. Yeah, that might, that might be, that might be a good option. I'm not. So 00:10:17
that, that is one of the, the comments that I do have is we do require to have the, the elevations of the dumpster enclosure with 00:10:23
materials for umm, and we haven't seen that yet. So we can talk about that to make sure. 00:10:29
Appealing or hidden either way, you know, yeah, maybe, uh, we could be known for the smallest mural in Utah. 00:10:36
What you're looking for for the downstairs closure. So are are city standards used to look at uh, any of the similar properties 00:10:45
just the South of Mr. car wash. And if you lose it, I think they might even share a dumpster enclosure. Umm, but just give us the 00:10:52
materials that are going to be used. If it's gonna just be blocked with the cake, just let us know what it is. Umm, we, we don't 00:10:59
have a, a super strict requirement, but I, but I can send that, uh, over in my comments after today. 00:11:06
Mm-hmm. In, in, we generally do a steel enclosure with corrugated metal. Umm, it's very attractive looking, but it's just allows 00:11:14
us to not have it be hit and run forever. It has to be completely revoked, which is blocking there, but we have done plenty of 00:11:20
blocking there if you guys want that. 00:11:27
And then I'll go through our code to make sure that there's nothing I'm missing here. But, but we, we generally let it up to you 00:11:33
for, for design on that. OK. And then the other gentleman, I'm sorry, I'm still waiting in the office. The other gentleman spoke 00:11:41
and said about something about the footing and utilities going through. Umm, we obviously will research that. And it was our 00:11:48
engineer on that. That's, that's all we got. Yep. That's it. OK Sounds good. Mm-hmm. 00:11:55
Umm, I guess my other my one question as well as umm, and I probably should know the answer to this. Umm, but I'll just go ahead 00:12:04
and identify that don't so well between the parking lot for the community behind and the, uh, drive access here. So it's a it's a 00:12:11
small fence that will be installed by the Edgewater development. That's part of their requirement as they put in that, that 00:12:18
landscaping wall. 00:12:24
And I believe it will have a gate. I could be wrong. 00:12:32
Little while ago to get pedestrian access at least through the site, but I'll, I'll, I'll double check on that Yeah, if there's a 00:12:37
possession gate on there, then umm, there has to be pedestrian walkway, I'm sure yeah I'll, I'll, I'll double check on that yeah, 00:12:43
that's fine either way. 00:12:48
OK, going through, I can show you some elevations here. Umm, they do meet requirement in the GRE. We do have a requirement that, 00:12:55
uh, the, I believe 30% of the ground floor has to be glazing and they, they've met that and it's a, a relatively attractive 00:13:00
building. Umm, it'll be right up against neither Rd. umm, which also be nice. It's not just a giant parking lot along central 00:13:06
neighborhood. Umm, they're well within our, our building height requirements. Umm, as you can see, this is the future signage 00:13:12
location. 00:13:18
On the West elevation, so this is where I, I mentioned that we just need to make sure that we're being aware of the Edgewater 00:13:24
development to the West, that those aren't gonna be shining bright light onto them at night. And then the other lighting here or 00:13:30
the other signage, potential signage location on the east elevation. 00:13:36
Umm we do have a landscaping plan, we will have to have it updated with the umm have the the parking was changed and that 15 set 00:13:44
back was was created along the road. So the UMM landscaping plan will have to be updated. I can find it, there's a lot of pages 00:13:50
here umm. 00:13:56
Oh, that's photometric real quick. They did well on the photometric. It doesn't look like there will be any lights spilling over 00:14:05
into Edgewater. It does help that that parking lot is also there to act as another little buffer. Umm. 00:14:10
Now I'm close. 00:14:19
Umm. 00:14:28
The landscaping is not loading real quick, so I can just run through umm, these comments real quick. Umm, and I can compile all 00:14:30
the comments from everybody and we can send them over as one document. Umm, parking. Like I said, there's no concern there. There 00:14:38
are 12 calls over the, the required limit. Umm, they, we've discussed putting in a pedestrian entrance along the east elevation. 00:14:45
Umm, and we've talked about how that because of the layout of the building, it will most likely be for like employees use. 00:14:53
Only umm, on the ground floor. 00:15:00
Umm As I mentioned, we've re requested a materials board in relation to the dumpster enclosure. Umm and then with updated 00:15:04
landscaping planes, we do the tabulation of the total site plan for for landscaping. How much landscaping is is going to be on the 00:15:10
site. Umm and then our code does require 1/3 and 10 shrubs for 20 feet along team Rd. So they're all planning comments. Umm if we 00:15:16
wanna just go department by department, we can. 00:15:22
Fulfill those comments back to them. 00:15:29
That's fine. So one thing, one thing quick, the pedestrian fence and the Edgewater development, we are not aware of any 00:15:31
requirements for us. Are we supposed to get with Edgewater, uh, with, with the developer and make sure you can put them to be 00:15:37
engaged. I, so I, I, I reviewed that site plan. It's been, I don't know, maybe a year or so now, umm, that we did that site plan 00:15:43
and I recall there being pedestrian gate. I don't know if it's still launched for property or not. I'll, I'll look into that and, 00:15:49
and let you guys. 00:15:55
No, as I find out we're we're OK with it, which is not a requirement, correct? 00:16:01
Right yeah that, that would all be done through them. It's more of if that does go on your property and it goes right into a 00:16:10
parking spot, then we would see an issue. Umm, but like I said, I'll, I'll, I'll do some research on that and and get back to you. 00:16:18
OK. And we are happy if it does that we can create a walkway and the ADA ramp that I'm, I'm not worried about that. I just OK. 00:16:26
When he was not aware of it. 00:16:35
Yeah, go on the department. Yeah. All right. So I guess Patrick is do you have any questions or any comments? 00:16:46
I just had a comment on uh, the sidewalk at the at the front, umm, are facing the parking area. Umm, the parking stall were 18 00:16:54
feet long and so the 10 vehicles will overhang the curb. So that will include the sidewalk umm. 00:17:03
The sidewalk currently is 5 feet 5 1/2 including the curb. So we need to have at least 4 feet of unimpeded uh sidewalk with the 00:17:13
car overhang. Car overhang is typically 2 feet are considered to be two feet. 00:17:22
We we can just put in service options for that if that helps. 00:17:33
Uh, the 18 seat length, I don't know if that would allow for a curb stop. I think that might be too short for curb stop and and to 00:17:38
fit a car, fit a vehicle. 00:17:44
We can look into that. 00:17:53
Yeah, we can look at, we can look into that and we can also umm, adjust those for annual parts. We have extra questions also. 00:17:57
We'll be fine either way. Invite us to redo that and ask that as quick. But the parking is, is where you guys do it at 9, three 00:18:03
and 19. 00:18:09
Sorry, what was the question? 00:18:18
Or when you guys, so we, we allow 18 feet if if there's proper overhang distance, but it's not, I've seen it as 20 feet. Umm. 00:18:26
But in this, in this case with the 5 1/2 foot sidewalk, I think you could do a 19 foot and that would be OK, OK. 00:18:42
So we can either do that or we can take the sidewalks where, umm, from 5:50 to 15. 00:18:50
Yeah. 00:18:58
OK, thank you so much. Yes, just a comment. And I mean, again, I haven't been uh, around that long, uh, but uh, for the ABA 00:19:00
parking, I know, uh, on the, if it's angled, make sure that you really dig into that more. So I just wanna make sure that, uh, you 00:19:07
know that, uh, because I don't believe any of our codes has, uh, you know, shows requirements for ADA at angles, but you know, 00:19:15
that would fall. 00:19:22
The National Aviation Standards. So let's make sure that's being considered, you know. 00:19:30
Umm, and I didn't, I didn't see a landscaping plan and obviously there's utilities aren't set yet, but uh, just make sure that 00:19:40
there's no deep rooted plants next to the water meter or fire hydrant. 00:19:47
Let's see. 00:20:02
I think that might have been all I had. 00:20:11
Cool. Uh, how about the that's the question for parks and racks? Anything that you would like to add to? 00:20:19
I'm so happy you're happy here. 00:20:28
Alright, well, Eric, Sir. 00:20:32
Nothing, nothing from it, Eric. And then I'll give it back to my items and after coverage the the best parts of it too. 00:20:35
Uh, Chris Johnson. 00:20:43
Uh, just on the deferred system, it'll the fire depression system and the fire detection system. 00:20:46
Is, uh, that's OK. Just I'm curious about the slight utility plan for Fire Protection systems where we need to know where the fire 00:20:53
rising room is. So we know fire hydrant placement. I would be wary of different, different that just so we can make sure we get 00:21:00
that right location. And just to add on with the far, far, far, umm, suppression system, just make sure that there you dig into 00:21:08
our, our organs, uh, in regards to the fire, the water, uh, just. 00:21:15
The fire suppression system pressures that they will provide will guarantee statement of requirements and nothing more. 00:21:23
No worries, just give me a half Fire Marshall. 00:21:34
Yeah, we have a deputy Fire Marshall assigned to you. 00:21:39
Who is that Brandon Valley? 00:21:44
She's the one speaking right now. 00:21:47
Hey, doing good. 00:21:51
I'm a, I'm a retired pharmacy right now. Yeah. I also had questions on the, I don't see that very often on the site utility plan 00:21:53
for Fire Protection. And so like in an approval on this, uh, site plan, it would come with just approved on the contingent to or 00:22:01
based on that you're following IFC, umm, appendix C. 00:22:09
For hydrant placement and the relationship to the FTC, there was so much underground inspection that has to happen for that it it 00:22:18
would be. 00:22:23
Beneficial to get that in ahead of time, OK. 00:22:29
We we know, we know those requirements, so we'll get along. That's fine. 00:22:34
Do you want me to add in my comments right now? Yeah, so, uh, yeah. So Brandon, how was uh, or on fire? Go ahead Sir. So mine were 00:22:41
pretty simple. I just noticed in applicable codes, umm, it shows the 2018 international fire code and it should say the 2021 umm 00:22:47
international fire code on that and then. 00:22:53
Uh, it looks like you already have construction type and umm, square footage in there, so fire flow wouldn't be an issue to figure 00:23:02
out. Hydrants needed. 00:23:06
That's that's all I have on it. 00:23:12
Perfect. 00:23:16
OK. 00:23:18
And also the IPC IMC also tells us the 2021 except for the NEC 2020, that's good. 00:23:20
I'll come and update when you do 2021. Did you get that gel? Yeah, I, I'm, I'm also taking notes here that I'll send over to you 00:23:37
guys as well. OK? 00:23:41
Thank you. So I'm going forward at IBCNI. You guys were both about the 2021 yesterday. 00:23:46
Yeah, that's correct. OK, perfect. And I'm just basically on that, just make sure that the about the state of Utah code. So as 00:23:55
long as they saw it says Utah codes, it should be fine. 00:24:02
OK, So, yeah, going forward, I'll send these comments over to you. You know, once we get feedback and, and other requested 00:24:11
changes, we can, uh, go ahead and, and discuss further progress, whether that's making it the Planning Commission in two weeks, 00:24:17
umm, or, you know, if it takes a little bit more time to get these documents, that might be a month out. But after that, after 00:24:23
Planning Commission, it'll then go to the building department for, uh, building permit review. 00:24:29
I apologize, I do have uh, just a few more comments. Umm, So on this, uh, there is an upcoming change it, it may be in place when 00:24:36
it gets to the permitting process. 00:24:42
But there will be, uh, we're working on separating the alarm and the sprinkler plans into their own permit, umm, just so that. 00:24:48
The contractors have more, uh, power to follow their own permits and it's more spelled out in that way. Nothing gets missed on 00:24:58
your side. It, it helps facilitate the process a lot better and, umm. 00:25:03
Yeah, I have one more. We're, we're used to that allowance, Microsoft, so that's fine. And then the other thing is just they need 00:25:10
to be third parties, umm, reviewed. So we'll need a, a stamp and a letter. 00:25:18
That's it. I'm an engineer, correct? Uh yeah. So like, uh, PCI WC three one of the third party reviewers. 00:25:26
Yeah, OK. 00:25:38
Umm, that's the, in terms of the site plan issues and the Planning Commission, there's nothing on there is alarming to us. We 00:25:41
should be able to get that turned around. How do we get on the planning initiating? Uh, yeah. Just, uh, after I send these off to 00:25:48
you and you send me, you know, the updated landscaping plan that, that shows that 15 foot, uh, uh, set back along Geneva road and, 00:25:55
and the required vegetation. Umm, I can go ahead and just get it scheduled for you to be honest. 00:26:02
Around Planning Commission, OK. 00:26:10
Let's let's do that. Thank you. Right on. All right, guys, thank you so much. Thank you. Cool. 00:26:12
Does anybody else have anything? I think that's it from our end. So no motion on this. No, no motion and we'll move forward to the 00:26:20
next item. Yep. So next item is let me pull up my awesome, uh, e-mail. 00:26:27
So we're going to move to item 2.1? That's correct. Cool. 00:26:37
Alright, so I know. 00:26:43
2.1 which is the vineyards E Blake as you need the industrial business park today's 11 site plan I believe we have Mr. Chris 00:26:47
Gephardt here representing the owner and a cash we'd like to kick us off on Yeah, absolutely. So this is very similar project to 00:26:55
what they have built with Ms. properties in the past. I can show you here on the. 00:27:04
Map the the location here. 00:27:13
So this lot right here to Southwest 1750. 00:27:15
Umm going back to this, they are proposing 2 structures, a 68,000 square foot building and a 4848 thousand oh 48,600 not 48,006 00:27:20
thousand square foot building to fill in the underutilized West side of lot 1. 00:27:29
It will be a insulated concrete panel construction designed here in manufacturing in Utah, Nashville 3 tone color schemes 00:27:38
mastering Valley. It'll be, uh, their stripe, their state landscape. 00:27:44
Here's the site plan here you can see the, the two different buildings, the larger one right here, smaller one right here. We'll 00:27:50
have 3 entrances onto 1750 N Umm, I've discussed with the, the applicant, umm, the, the possibility of trying to make these align 00:27:58
more with the umm, surrounding uh, properties to the north. Umm, It has been been a little difficult with, you know, with both of 00:28:05
these right here, umm, so we can have further discussion on that. 00:28:12
Umm, but let me pull up my comments on the whole project here. OK, so on the cover sheet there were some small things that that 00:28:20
need to get fixed and I've gone over this with them. Umm, they are needing to increase some landscaping over here on the UMM. 00:28:28
The northeast corner of the lot. 00:28:38
Let's see, uh. 00:28:42
Already umm, so I think it'd be beneficial to go through each department and I'll, I'll track notes and send them any other 00:29:14
updates that are required. Umm. 00:29:18
So here's that and I can show you the elevations as well if there's any other. 00:29:24
I thought I had those in this set here. 00:29:31
Sorry. 00:29:35
Umm, it might take me a second to find the elevations. Umm, oh, they're right here. 00:29:43
And I believe that is not blue paint, it is just glass. And we've had some, uh, issues with blue paint. 00:29:54
So yeah, here the elevation for the buildings, they look very similar to the other products that have been built in the area. Umm, 00:30:16
here's their landscaping plan and and you know, shows adequate parking. Umm, they will have the the center here will be used for 00:30:22
the the semis to access. 00:30:27
Umm, and with that I can turn it over to the team to go through departments. 00:30:34
All right. No, Yeah, go ahead. Thank you. I'll just go ahead and start off with that password for for the work engineering. 00:30:42
Umm, yeah. So I guess one thing on, on here is we'll, we'll need to, need to do a, uh, water study, umm, for this area to make 00:30:56
sure that we have the, the proper water capacity, umm. 00:31:04
And then we'll, we'll, we'll get into it more, umm, during a technical review with the land disturbance permit, but, umm, I 00:31:13
noticed that there was a, kind of a retention area, uh, or, or something in, in the, in the back for storm water. Umm, if, if 00:31:22
that's gonna be a retention area, I would, uh, want to see a percolation test or something to see. 00:31:30
How how fast the water will percolate into the ground. 00:31:40
Umm, and that's, that's about I, I didn't know that this could, this will be on the, on the fireside, but uh, uh, with the FTCS, 00:31:45
we, we need a fire hydrant within 100 feet of the FTCS, right? Correct. 00:31:52
So right now there's 200 plus feet away, so we'll need to address that. 00:32:00
I think that's about it, but I had. 00:32:09
It's been 100. 00:32:12
Uh, package. Was there something about the with the driveway? I, I, I apologize, you might have to say that. 00:32:15
Umm, cash briefly mentioned it, but uh, we, yeah, I think we need to have a discussion about the staff center access, umm, where 00:32:22
there's access points across the street as well. And so there's gonna be less turn conflict, uh, coming in and out of that, that 00:32:29
access point so. 00:32:36
Yeah, everyone if if you. 00:32:47
If you could just go to Mike just to address any concern. Sorry, but we're, we're official with our DFC meetings now. It's all 00:32:50
recorded and everything. I'm not sure where that comes from, but uh, yeah, I don't that would change the whole layout. I mean 00:32:59
trying to line, I mean, is it, is it, is it possible just to angle that access towards the one across the street? 00:33:07
So in that sense, you'd be reflecting the same type of approach that the One North of it would have. I mean, this one in 00:33:16
particular becomes more of a, uh, concern because of the, the east of it for the road. 00:33:23
Has that curvature right there and then so that become, that's, that's what exaggerates the conflict. Uh, thought if it wasn't for 00:33:30
that, then why didn't that approach? And, and that's the approach where we went to when two cars would be coming to the, to the 00:33:37
main road 1750, uh, from the parking lot, from the north parking lot in the South parking lot. They're facing each other and they, 00:33:44
and actually they have eye contact. 00:33:51
Yeah, all right, so I mean, if we just widen it won't let you line it up or do we have to it's gonna curve it uh, because we're 00:34:02
talking that's our semi route. Yeah, no, I understand that. I mean, if you widen this, I think if you, if you do the widening and 00:34:08
then with the with the striping, like kind of the hash to allow a dumb Xbox to over like over constate and and, uh, approach that. 00:34:15
I don't I don't see an issue with that. 00:34:21
Uh, and then if you. 00:34:28
Seen any issues down there with that? That's a very wide Rd. with its own turn lane in the center. Yeah. One of the issues with 00:34:30
offsetting driveways like that is when 2 vehicles are coming in, uh, to turn left into those separate businesses, they'll, they'll 00:34:37
meet in the middle of this conflict there. So like that's what I mean, I'm like, we got that's all industrial down there, all 00:34:44
trucks coming in now. Have we seen a problem with that? 00:34:51
Because I've been down there the last 10 years. 00:34:59
I have not taken call with that. Can we ensure that it would never happen in the future? 00:35:01
Seems like we're making problems to fix. Well again, this is. 00:35:07
That's what you guys are. 00:35:14
Yeah, and yeah, and yeah, uh, I, I'm sure you're gonna understand what I said that we review these, uh, applications as they come 00:35:16
forward. So, and then, uh, and then, of course the study, uh, for other areas that might be causing issues in the city or for 00:35:23
other things, the city will work with those individual building owners to correct any type of concerns on the, on those down sale. 00:35:30
We know, we, we, we won't hold, uh, you know, we won't hold them, uh, liable. 00:35:38
Before this, and we as you all will be liable for that, for that. We won't say that you can't get this approved until everyone 00:35:45
else fixes their driver purchase address. So, but I think, I mean, I think, yeah, I think for the have, uh, what you propose and 00:35:53
of course you can talk offline during the technical review with engineering in regards to, uh, meeting our, uh, conflict concerns 00:36:00
and then of course, meeting your needs for uh, truck access results that we don't want to. 00:36:08
Uh, fix to one problem but create another problem is all. 00:36:16
Exactly. I just don't, you know, you try to start lining all them up, but it's going to make it real tough to put buildings where 00:36:20
you put them, you know? 00:36:24
That, that seems like a lot to work on. That goes, uh, that goes, uh, engineering, public works job security for a long time 00:36:30
because you're a lot different. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:36:35
Uh, was there anything else? I'm sorry. Thanks. Thank you for the call, Sir. 00:36:42
OK. Yeah, just like that, just for you can work directly with, uh, Patrick engineering. Yeah, after the discussion. Oh, that's 00:36:46
good. Yeah. 00:36:49
Not a problem. Alright, John. OK, Patrick, will you write the outside? Umm, I don't, I don't think I had anything else. No, thank 00:36:54
you. Umm, alright. Uh, with that being said, uh, uh, I'm sorry. I'll Preston. OK, uh, Eric, Sir. 00:37:03
Alright, that's American. And of course, uh, Patrick, it's a, it's a good spot for me. So he makes my job easy. Thank you, Sir. 00:37:14
Uh, Chris, Jonathan, perfect building. I don't have anything, just, uh, what happened with his connection? Yeah. 00:37:22
And then, uh, yeah, just I guess the point that's happened about the, I think what you call the wire, the wire, but it's kind of 00:37:33
utility to ensure like questions and so forth service so you can give a password offline as well and then we can help out. 00:37:40
Same with the Yeah, yeah. 00:37:50
Yeah. 00:37:55
Yeah, yeah, usually, yeah. And then usually with utility testing, my service delivery, as things grow, we always have to 00:37:58
revalidate stuff. So again, it's just, uh, I just wanna make sure that before you guys start doing anything to give us a topic to 00:38:03
make sure that, uh, what you're doing is what we're looking for and vice versa. 00:38:09
All right, uh, and then, uh, you're, you're, you're good. OK. And then, uh, Brandon with, uh, on fire. 00:38:15
Uh, my stuff is for the future of this building. Umm, so is this, uh, is this a spec warehouse right now? OK, do you have, uh, any 00:38:22
idea what kind of sprinkler system or has a class you're putting the sprinklers in for? Is it just to the spec? It'll just be to 00:38:31
the spec, the shell. OK, What's gonna go on? Alright. 00:38:39
Umm, we ran into the issue recently where when a building like this is built to a spec. 00:38:48
And it's just flooring walls, sprinkler system and alarm system that when the the new tenant goes in, they're not aware that they 00:38:54
need to upgrade or change it. So when they go to put in racking, when they go to do that kind of stuff, there will be additional 00:39:00
and they may need to revamp their whole sprinkler and alarm system at that point. 00:39:07
In the government production you never know. So we need it, we need to decide when we get it to start with. 00:39:17
OK, so most people shoot for like a class 4, umm, that's everything except for like a high hazard. And then, you know, anyone with 00:39:25
a high hazard should be aware that they need to modify their system when they come in anyway. So anyways, that's, that's all I 00:39:30
had. 00:39:35
Great. Thank you very much, Sir. So, Cash, we would like to wrap this up, Sir. Yeah, yeah, I will just forward these comments on 00:39:42
to you. It doesn't look like there's a lot of changes that we're requesting. Uh, we can most likely get this on to, to Planning 00:39:47
Commission in two weeks. Umm, do you have any questions for us? No, it sounds like. 00:39:52
He gave you an updated landscape. Oh, you did OK? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. 00:39:57
Yep. 00:40:03
Yep, Yep, Yep. 00:40:05
So like I'm going to approach, I know you guys have a limit to how widely the perfect being, yeah. 00:40:09
So I mean, so we have yeah, I know we do have a bonus in terms of that anybody where you come down to like for your standards 00:40:20
standard cases. If you're having like any kind of like a special youth kids like for example, this is your delivery truck in and 00:40:27
out again, just you can give us after directly like right after this e-mail passwords like, OK, I'm seeing this. You know, I don't 00:40:34
I don't think anything knows what he's talking about. So I need Patrick. 00:40:41
Fantastic, exciting little desire, but I mean things like that, like, umm, you know, it comes down to like almost like a uh, 00:40:48
special use condition, uh, type thing. But uh, we've been with that being said, you know, we're trying to say, OK, this makes 00:40:54
sense. Usually again, I'm not gonna, I'm not saying this is exactly the case, but you know, uh, I mean, you guys use really good 00:41:00
engineers as well, so, umm, they can think about it on there, but if you do something a little bit wider and then you try and then 00:41:06
you, umm, hash it out and. 00:41:12
Umm, So what that does is it tells normal drivers to this is the, this is the path to go. And then, and then your, uh, special use 00:41:18
case truck drivers, you'd need to overcompensate are able to do that. Something very similar that we did. Uh, because you know, 00:41:25
we, uh, it was, uh, you guys did the 600 N connection to on the West side where that curve, you know, we did that. We did, you 00:41:33
know, the curve was done like you normally would do is right near the railroad tracks, but it wasn't. 00:41:40
Want to meet the needs of the truckers and so forth. So we have to do the special kind of like a special case. We overcompase to 00:41:48
get the curve to uh, to be outside where we typically would do it in order to allow for us to take maneuvering. So we, you know, 00:41:55
we were required to the curve to uh, secure one concern, but when we did that, we created another concern. Yeah. So that's the 00:42:01
nice thing about engineering too is. 00:42:08
It's job security, you know? Exactly. 00:42:15
So yeah, like I said, just give a Patrick directly and you know, we're we're happy to walk you, walk you through there before you 00:42:18
push airport concrete. We're happy to like go through the motions. 00:42:22
We'll get our civil engineer to send one over to your. 00:42:26
And then if you, yeah, you're good with that, get on the Planning Commission. Yeah, Thanks, Sir. Appreciate. Appreciate your time. 00:42:30
Alright, Mom. 00:42:34
That being said, we have one last one, uh 2.3 on the docket, uh, with the applicants not here cash so. 00:42:40
David Peterson. 00:42:51
Hey, David, are you with the? Well with the? 00:42:55
OK. 00:42:59
Cool. Alright, well, alright, 2 points. We need uh, hold on with the old LDS, uh, church, uh, site plan, uh, cash. 00:43:02
Yeah, I asked me. I think that's why. All right. Thank you, machine. 00:43:13
I'm really excited to umm. 00:43:19
Be the one reviewing this anointed building. 00:43:21
And, umm. 00:43:28
Yeah, the So we have the applicant, umm, applying for, umm, a proposed construction of a new meeting house, uh, which will be 00:43:30
located on the northeast corner of uh, Main Street and 400 S in our city. 00:43:39
And umm, this meeting house is umm. 00:43:49
You know, in total going to be about 24,000 square feet and it will consist of a Chapel, uh, the cultural hall, you know, just the 00:43:54
regular, the offices, umm, classrooms and all for religious use, umm. 00:44:01
The elevation, as has been presented is, umm, going to be veneer, uh, brick veneer. And uh, I felt shingles on top of it. The 00:44:10
roof, umm. 00:44:16
They have also just going through quite a bit of the umm. 00:44:26
Stuff they have. 00:44:31
Also, UMM said that the meeting house would be used then on Sundays and some weekday evenings as well. UMM in reviewing that. 00:44:35
And review on the plants so far umm Parkin was they provided more parking than than is expected or required umm. 00:44:47
You know, what was required was about 111 parking stalls. They provided 269 or 268 depending on which sheets you're looking at. So 00:44:57
it's one of my comments they need to consult, you know, just try to make sure all the sheets have the same number of parking 00:45:05
stalls given that. 00:45:13
And we want to be able to have a consistent number throughout the plans that are being, uh, provided. 00:45:22
Umm. 00:45:28
So 1, you know, again, back on the number of parking. It's about 158 or 57 depending on which one they decide to go with. More 00:45:30
than what is required, which is a good thing. Umm. 00:45:36
One of the comments I had also was umm, on the lights and requirements. Uh, it's required that according to our code, we have warm 00:45:45
colored lighting. Uh, I don't see anything in the plan that shows that that's the recommended for the exterior. So umm, it'll be 00:45:51
nice to have that the. 00:45:58
The lighting pose, you know, the, the height of all the lighting poles as presented in the plant are, you know, a meeting code, 00:46:06
which is a good thing, umm, However, on the photometric plan, I realized that the, umm, entrances and exits are not adequately lit 00:46:14
as, umm, it should be as required by the code. So at least there should be some little, a little bit more lighting in the entrance 00:46:21
and exit, uh, parts of. 00:46:28
Umm of a site with a landscape. 00:46:37
You're fixing the lighting at the entrances to the building or the entrances to the site? To the site parking. Yeah. So the 00:46:43
building is perfect. It's more than enough. 00:46:49
Yeah, so umm, again it should be down lit just like you have it in the other parts, but umm, the code requires that the entrances 00:46:58
and exits have some more lighting. Umm, another comment that I have has to deal with the landscaping. Umm, I will recommend you 00:47:06
referring to our Vineyard Tree manual to guide you in umm. 00:47:15
The three sizes, umm, there are a few of them that I think needs to make what we have so. 00:47:24
I didn't wanna point it out. 00:47:30
Umm, other than that, that's that's it for my comments right now. Umm, I did speak with this. This plan is actually delayed 00:47:33
because umm, they did make a present like they did submit this plan prior to having to do the UMM. 00:47:41
The final subdivision one, uh, application which is a prerequisite for this one to move on. So that was approved during our last 00:47:51
two DRCS, umm, I have been in communication with Nate Virtual, he said that. 00:48:00
I mean, he's traveling today, though, but he will call me later to discuss when that could be recorded. And we need that to be 00:48:10
recorded to move forward with everything else. So I'm not sure they're gonna go on the Planning Commission, umm, in two weeks. 00:48:17
But we will be working through the comments that we compiled today and umm, hopefully have them get the approved final plat 00:48:24
recorded to meet all the requirements for our site plan and then we can move on from there. So at this point, I'll just turn it 00:48:31
over to our chair. 00:48:38
Thank you. 00:48:46
So the reason that the site plan can't move forward to the meeting is because it's plaque during quarters first, yes. 00:48:50
OK. 00:49:01
I believe that the Marlarms were president in the hands of the owner. And I'll, I'll, I'll get with the architect and see where 00:49:04
that is. Umm, because once they sign up, it would just be a matter of getting into the city to remain signature, to get it 00:49:12
recorded. Yeah, the flat is certainly waiting on signatures from the church. 00:49:19
Before they'll they'll give it to us so. 00:49:27
OK. 00:49:33
Are there any other items that yeah. So Anthony, when yeah, Anthony, when you do go with that, uh, can you just ask him and, uh, 00:49:36
this is unrelated to this, uh, like application, but the. 00:49:42
Uh, there was a a question that was sent in regards to 400 S connection to Main Street. 00:49:49
All right. Uh, that we'll move on to Patrick with other works in engineering. 00:49:56
You know, I don't, I don't think I have anything uh, for this meeting. Umm, we, we've been going through reviews already, umm, 00:50:02
more intensive reviews already for the site and uh, and so those have been addressed and uh, so I don't think I have anything 00:50:08
further for this meeting. 00:50:14
Yeah, uh, and then I know with the, there's a steak center that was, uh, built over the, another part of the venue city. Umm, 00:50:21
yeah. In regards to, uh, another landscape, uh, I, I know you haven't, uh, probably 1002 of the landscape apartments that they had 00:50:28
did not meet the city's requirements. They did like permanent payments. So if that's gonna be the case here, I'll just coordinate 00:50:36
with, uh, Patrick, uh, in regards to that. Some of that was the. 00:50:43
Code requirement. So yeah, we, we did look into that and there's just some differences between the standard zoning that this falls 00:50:51
into. Well, I guess that's the whole way field, OK and the waters edge. OK, I just wanna make sure that was, uh, clear. Thanks. 00:50:58
Cool. That being said, let's move on to the rest of the group. So Preston, nothing from Parks and Rec. Thank you, Eric, Sir. OK. 00:51:07
And then Patrick covers the television for me and then Chris Johnson for building. 00:51:13
And then on fire. Brandon, Sir, no items tomorrow. I'm sorry. No. 00:51:22
Yeah. 00:51:32
Yeah, I know. The only other thing I, I mean, I'm sorry, I was kind of looking at this and, umm, I got to know something that, uh, 00:51:33
uh, envy the control. But uh, from here it seems like, uh, they, I mean, they have interested space in this, uh, facing the South 00:51:39
side, which is the front edge of the road right there. Uh, probably something for, uh, us to, uh, to think about and discuss with, 00:51:46
uh, Afghans with the, uh. 00:51:52
And they might be doing it with the landscaping and like maybe enhance over the landscaping is a car specifically beside the park 00:51:59
on the street because. 00:52:04
Third season street park on the street right there. Even though that is not legal, is the easiest uh, source point to go into the 00:52:09
go into the building. 00:52:13
Even though there may be ample parking spots, I often notice that people decide that they wanna walk 5 feet long on that. So maybe 00:52:19
we can, uh, see about when, uh, improvement in the landscaping so we could do something to help, uh, discourage people from 00:52:26
parking illegally right by around the house. 00:52:32
Also, uh, one question, I guess clarification I do have, umm, one thing you might want to look at is how this trail was installed 00:52:41
differently than what is shown here. This is already in place, so that might impact your landscaping. Uh, this originally shows it 00:52:48
going right next to the road and they actually moved it in probably about 5 feet, Yeah. 00:52:55
Yeah, it stays consistent along here. So that will change the the interior landscaping here as well as right next to the road. 00:53:04
Cool. OK. Well, I thought that I think that's everything we got there. There's no motion on this, so there's no motion. Any 00:53:14
questions for us, David? 00:53:18
That's it. Yeah, there was. I I know that I addressed, I know Patrick had a few comments and I think plans over yesterday, umm 00:53:24
things that we had seen on a previous review from like back in January. But anyway, we fixed all those and so I assume do see a 00:53:30
few minor comments. We should be good to go. Yeah. So if we do. 00:53:36
Send over a copy of the list of the comments that we have. Anthony will do that. And if, if we do get that Mylar, you know, in 00:53:44
the, in the next few days, early next week, umm, there's a chance we'd be able to get this on the Planning Commission here in two 00:53:49
weeks. Umm, but if not, we'll, we'll probably look in about a month out for that Planning Commission meeting to get this and the 00:53:55
conditional use permit that's attached to approved. 00:54:00
OK. Sounds good. I don't think that makes it. I appreciate it. OK. 00:54:06
That's it. So, umm, I know seriously, let's talk for 5 minutes about something like no, umm, that being said, I know we're not 00:54:14
gonna be going over the DRC, Viola, VRC violence and so forth. So I, I know Anthony will work with, uh, everyone to, uh, get that 00:54:20
on there later agenda. Umm, yeah, we, we just, with three site plans on here. I was concerned we wouldn't have adequate time to 00:54:26
have a, a good discussion on that. I think we can all agree on that. So all right, uh, OK, well, I guess the one last round if 00:54:32
anyone has common. 00:54:37
I I did just see that stolen online. I don't know if he has any comments on anything that that we reviewed. 00:54:44
So I'm just working, OK, I know I, I don't have any comments on these applications are, are looking pretty good. Umm, they've all 00:54:51
been, you know, cooperating with us and and getting us the documents that we need. Yeah, I know. All right, I appreciate that. I, 00:54:57
I expected to help you out covered all the common services as far as some other works engineering. So we're good. Umm Patrick, do 00:55:02
you have anything specific, anything else there for the group? Not for any about these type plans because we've already covered 00:55:08
all the pipelines anyway. 00:55:13
Thank you. 00:55:21
No. OK. Moving on, Anthony, Sir. Anthony, thank you. 00:55:23
No. And pressing yeah, Eric, Sir, I got nothing to the group, Chris Johnson and then. 00:55:28
Actually, I'll say one more thing. I understand I messed up and not getting the agenda sent out. I thought our software was 00:55:39
sending that out as we published it to people that are on the board, but it looks like it is not doing that. So I, I probably 00:55:44
don't have something set up right. So anyways, that being said, I'm just working on getting that fixed. So hopefully we can get 00:55:50
the agenda to you earlier, give you a little bit more time to, to review what we're gonna be going over. 00:55:56
Umm, and, and with that being said, I'm open to any suggestions on how we could, uh, you know, make things run a little bit 00:56:03
through there, whatever it may be. I, I talked to Brandon last week for a good little bit on, on some changes that we could 00:56:08
possibly make. So. 00:56:12
Like I said, I'm totally happy to to hear any of those changes and and do what we can to to make these meetings run a little bit 00:56:18
smoother. 00:56:21
Something. 00:56:27
We got 3 minutes after. Thank you. So I, I just wanted to remind the team to review that DRC bylaws for the next time that we 00:56:31
probably meet to discuss it so that we all at least have reviewed it before every discussion. It's, it's not a long one. It's 00:56:39
about just two, two or three pages, I guess so. 00:56:47
That's that's the only thing. 00:56:57
Thank you, Sir. Bye, bye. Does anyone have a motion to adjourn? 00:56:59
You know you're not part of this talk. Sorry. 00:57:06
OK, So we got a motion to adjourn from, uh, Eric Ellis. Uh, do you have a second? 00:57:11
And Chris Johnson second, uh, all, all those who would like to adjourn. All right, take care. 00:57:16
Do we have a bylaw talk about impeaching the chair? 00:57:25
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Andy, 'cause we're like, I wanna mention something else. You're welcome. I'll do that again. All over the dogs. We need to go 00:00:46
away, run by. Yeah. 00:00:52
Approval. Whatever. 00:01:05
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My ecology in order just call stores. 00:01:51
All right, so the development review committee, April 4th, uh, 2024, uh, is now in order. Uh, so in regards to this, uh, on the 00:01:55
agenda that we have. So do I have to say my name and the number cash? What was that? Do we have to reduce ourselves to you? No, 00:02:03
it's physically here. You, you should be OK. You do not have to do. Thank you, Sir. 00:02:12
So, alright, uh, so I'm here. We have, uh, on our agenda. We have a few items, uh, and I was uh. 00:02:22
And with the items that we have, we have, let me pull it up, but the items, uh, one and two, we're going to be switching around in 00:02:31
order to help facilitate, uh, attendees who are, uh, here. So we have, umm. 00:02:38
That's on our work day. So we have 3 items on our work session. Uh, the first time being junior you play and, uh, do you need the 00:02:46
industrial, uh, business park phase 11 sites plan? Uh, I #2 is at GRMU office billing site plan and I'm #3 is the whole of the 00:02:53
fields LDS Church site plan. Is there any other items cash that would be, that would be alright. Uh, so we were, uh, it was 00:03:00
requested that, uh, we switched items to 2.1 and 2.2, uh, the DRMU with, uh. 00:03:08
To go first, uh, and Geneva industrial business park to go second. So that would be official motion. Great. Yeah, I just work 00:03:16
sessions we can all right. So, uh, so that's, that's the way we're, uh, so we're gonna go ahead and, uh, allow the Gru office 00:03:22
building site plan to, uh, go 1st And uh, actually there's a staff report, uh, presentation by cash advance. Yep, I do have a, a 00:03:28
brief report here and we also do have the applicants here as well in case there's, uh, any other questions that definitely have. 00:03:34
Umm, and is this is a short. 00:03:40
Umm, if you guys do have any questions about the site plan as I review it, feel free to stop me and we can hopefully address those 00:03:46
umm as we go on umm, a little background on the site. This is an office building, A2 story office building about a little under 00:03:54
4400 square feet located in the GRMUI have the platformed up here. It's lot 203 umm, so it does the back onto that uh Edgewater 00:04:01
parking lot that will be the the West of this project Geneva Rd. up to the east umm and then. 00:04:08
Uh, I believe the two lots, uh, North and South are currently undeveloped and we do not have guidance for that quite yet. 00:04:16
Umm, thank you. This is the. 00:04:25
A view of of where it will be located. 00:04:27
Come back to here. So as I mentioned, this is part of the GRMU, it's Altus development group. It's going to be the ones uh, 00:04:31
developing this project umm, about the property on your which is vineyard vision holdings and I believe they will be one of the 00:04:38
tenants. It's gonna be an eye care umm, So it's an office building generally, umm, used for medical uses, umm, and, and 00:04:44
miscellaneous office umm, as, as you know, as needed. 00:04:50
Umm, as far as the planning review goes, uh, everything looks great. They, they had a great scope of work here where they, they 00:04:57
talked about the maintenance of the property that it'll be well cared for, will not have any kind of. 00:05:02
Uh, impact, impacts on the, the neighboring properties. That is an office. It's not gonna have, you know, loud sounds. It's not 00:05:08
like the car wash to the South where we have to put up that sound wall. Umm, you know, nothing like that should, should impact 00:05:14
this. Umm, we have mentioned that or on, on the West side of the building, there is a proposed sign. And so we've talked to them 00:05:20
about making sure that, that when that permit comes in that the sign, umm, does turn off at a certain hour, the lighting on it so 00:05:26
it doesn't impact. 00:05:32
Edgewater townhomes off to the West. Umm So with that, I will just go right into the site plan and they did send in an updated 00:05:38
site plan, uh, I believe yesterday or the day before. Umm, addressing a lot of the comments that the planning and engineering did 00:05:45
have. Uh, the biggest was there was there's a 15 foot umm, landscaping set back requirement along Geneva Rd. Umm, and that also 00:05:53
put the building outside of the PUE umm, And so they did that and in doing so, they did have to ship some of the parking. 00:06:00
Here, which did reduce some of the parking, umm, but they're still within the, the required parking numbers. Umm, they also did 00:06:08
shift to the location of the dumpster to get a little bit further away from the, the future, uh, Geneva Trail that's gonna be 00:06:15
going in place. Umm, and they're, they're putting some landscaping to help shield that. Umm, yeah, this is a site plan. You see, 00:06:23
it has the Access Rd. off gear to the east. And that's how the Gru's design is to have this access Rd. come in off of UH-400 S. 00:06:30
100 N sorry, 400 N umm, and then I think there's two or three different exits on Geneva Rd. umm, but this whole site will be 00:06:38
accessed through this one Rd. here. 00:06:43
Umm, let me get to some elevations and go back to that area. I'm sorry. Yeah, of course you were talking. You were talking about 00:06:51
sitting down. 00:06:55
So the aerial map, oh, the aerial map or the either or the county does work Either one, yeah. Where is this one at? I believe it's 00:07:00
about right here. Uh. 00:07:04
This is an Echo office. 00:07:19
Uh, Med medical use, which is an allowed use within the GRM use? OK. 00:07:21
Cool. Umm, OK, when I am on the POV specifically, I know that, uh, you said that there was a 15 set back. There was a 15 set back 00:07:31
for the DOE Uh, excuse me, uh, out there for the landscaping and shipping outside of Pee Wee. I know that, uh, I just wanna have 00:07:38
to make sure there's really a condition on that would be just be in regards to. 00:07:46
Uh, the, uh, foundations like the, the federation and so forth should, needs to be, uh, designed to ensure that there's no, uh, 00:07:54
impact on any time utilities. I mean, and, uh, you can ask to talk to with engineering specifically a little bit more, umm, but I 00:08:00
mean, with. 00:08:06
I don't wanna go ahead and put a specific, umm, uh, number on the set on how far back the building needs to be because, uh, again, 00:08:12
depending on how deep the, uh, utilities would be there, uh, your, your, uh, foundation engineer special here, I'll be able to 00:08:19
tell you that those, uh, forces that may be impacting utilities, if you're found, if the Federated, the bomber foundation is above 00:08:27
the utilities, there's a territory area that's, that's put down. 00:08:34
Additional pressures. So it would just be, you know, I mean, we're not gonna sit here and I won't we won't design for you. But 00:08:42
oftentimes the option is deeper footers to get the get the pressures and forces away from the utilities and some people who choose 00:08:48
not to do deeper their buildings from the back. So I just wanna make sure that's, you know, that's understanding the conditions on 00:08:55
us. 00:09:02
So, uh, I know because we ran into that in the past and we've never, I mean, usually every instance about the, they chose, they 00:09:09
chose to, umm, they chose to revise their, uh, foundation, uh, the, a few people chose to push their building docs because they 00:09:18
have the space. Yeah. Umm, so that would be that the dumpster that goes along the trail is there, is there, uh, a distance, uh. 00:09:27
You know that this the defining department would like umm. 00:09:37
To have, uh, the back end dumpster from the, so because I know that not necessarily as, as long as there's adequate shielding 00:09:41
with, with vegetation, whether it's trees or shrubs, umm, and it will be as our requirement and we'll have an enclosure around it. 00:09:48
So it's not just that, you know, loose pumps are out there. Yeah. Umm, So I think when, umm, again, I'll let the planning office 00:09:55
be the ones who can, uh, talk this through, but it might be an opportunity for during the sight finding and, uh. 00:10:02
The final approvals for the building, uh, building, uh, building on it for the, uh, maybe, uh, talk to the buying office about 00:10:11
custom artistic features. Umm, that downstairs closure. Yeah, that might, that might be, that might be a good option. I'm not. So 00:10:17
that, that is one of the, the comments that I do have is we do require to have the, the elevations of the dumpster enclosure with 00:10:23
materials for umm, and we haven't seen that yet. So we can talk about that to make sure. 00:10:29
Appealing or hidden either way, you know, yeah, maybe, uh, we could be known for the smallest mural in Utah. 00:10:36
What you're looking for for the downstairs closure. So are are city standards used to look at uh, any of the similar properties 00:10:45
just the South of Mr. car wash. And if you lose it, I think they might even share a dumpster enclosure. Umm, but just give us the 00:10:52
materials that are going to be used. If it's gonna just be blocked with the cake, just let us know what it is. Umm, we, we don't 00:10:59
have a, a super strict requirement, but I, but I can send that, uh, over in my comments after today. 00:11:06
Mm-hmm. In, in, we generally do a steel enclosure with corrugated metal. Umm, it's very attractive looking, but it's just allows 00:11:14
us to not have it be hit and run forever. It has to be completely revoked, which is blocking there, but we have done plenty of 00:11:20
blocking there if you guys want that. 00:11:27
And then I'll go through our code to make sure that there's nothing I'm missing here. But, but we, we generally let it up to you 00:11:33
for, for design on that. OK. And then the other gentleman, I'm sorry, I'm still waiting in the office. The other gentleman spoke 00:11:41
and said about something about the footing and utilities going through. Umm, we obviously will research that. And it was our 00:11:48
engineer on that. That's, that's all we got. Yep. That's it. OK Sounds good. Mm-hmm. 00:11:55
Umm, I guess my other my one question as well as umm, and I probably should know the answer to this. Umm, but I'll just go ahead 00:12:04
and identify that don't so well between the parking lot for the community behind and the, uh, drive access here. So it's a it's a 00:12:11
small fence that will be installed by the Edgewater development. That's part of their requirement as they put in that, that 00:12:18
landscaping wall. 00:12:24
And I believe it will have a gate. I could be wrong. 00:12:32
Little while ago to get pedestrian access at least through the site, but I'll, I'll, I'll double check on that Yeah, if there's a 00:12:37
possession gate on there, then umm, there has to be pedestrian walkway, I'm sure yeah I'll, I'll, I'll double check on that yeah, 00:12:43
that's fine either way. 00:12:48
OK, going through, I can show you some elevations here. Umm, they do meet requirement in the GRE. We do have a requirement that, 00:12:55
uh, the, I believe 30% of the ground floor has to be glazing and they, they've met that and it's a, a relatively attractive 00:13:00
building. Umm, it'll be right up against neither Rd. umm, which also be nice. It's not just a giant parking lot along central 00:13:06
neighborhood. Umm, they're well within our, our building height requirements. Umm, as you can see, this is the future signage 00:13:12
location. 00:13:18
On the West elevation, so this is where I, I mentioned that we just need to make sure that we're being aware of the Edgewater 00:13:24
development to the West, that those aren't gonna be shining bright light onto them at night. And then the other lighting here or 00:13:30
the other signage, potential signage location on the east elevation. 00:13:36
Umm we do have a landscaping plan, we will have to have it updated with the umm have the the parking was changed and that 15 set 00:13:44
back was was created along the road. So the UMM landscaping plan will have to be updated. I can find it, there's a lot of pages 00:13:50
here umm. 00:13:56
Oh, that's photometric real quick. They did well on the photometric. It doesn't look like there will be any lights spilling over 00:14:05
into Edgewater. It does help that that parking lot is also there to act as another little buffer. Umm. 00:14:10
Now I'm close. 00:14:19
Umm. 00:14:28
The landscaping is not loading real quick, so I can just run through umm, these comments real quick. Umm, and I can compile all 00:14:30
the comments from everybody and we can send them over as one document. Umm, parking. Like I said, there's no concern there. There 00:14:38
are 12 calls over the, the required limit. Umm, they, we've discussed putting in a pedestrian entrance along the east elevation. 00:14:45
Umm, and we've talked about how that because of the layout of the building, it will most likely be for like employees use. 00:14:53
Only umm, on the ground floor. 00:15:00
Umm As I mentioned, we've re requested a materials board in relation to the dumpster enclosure. Umm and then with updated 00:15:04
landscaping planes, we do the tabulation of the total site plan for for landscaping. How much landscaping is is going to be on the 00:15:10
site. Umm and then our code does require 1/3 and 10 shrubs for 20 feet along team Rd. So they're all planning comments. Umm if we 00:15:16
wanna just go department by department, we can. 00:15:22
Fulfill those comments back to them. 00:15:29
That's fine. So one thing, one thing quick, the pedestrian fence and the Edgewater development, we are not aware of any 00:15:31
requirements for us. Are we supposed to get with Edgewater, uh, with, with the developer and make sure you can put them to be 00:15:37
engaged. I, so I, I, I reviewed that site plan. It's been, I don't know, maybe a year or so now, umm, that we did that site plan 00:15:43
and I recall there being pedestrian gate. I don't know if it's still launched for property or not. I'll, I'll look into that and, 00:15:49
and let you guys. 00:15:55
No, as I find out we're we're OK with it, which is not a requirement, correct? 00:16:01
Right yeah that, that would all be done through them. It's more of if that does go on your property and it goes right into a 00:16:10
parking spot, then we would see an issue. Umm, but like I said, I'll, I'll, I'll do some research on that and and get back to you. 00:16:18
OK. And we are happy if it does that we can create a walkway and the ADA ramp that I'm, I'm not worried about that. I just OK. 00:16:26
When he was not aware of it. 00:16:35
Yeah, go on the department. Yeah. All right. So I guess Patrick is do you have any questions or any comments? 00:16:46
I just had a comment on uh, the sidewalk at the at the front, umm, are facing the parking area. Umm, the parking stall were 18 00:16:54
feet long and so the 10 vehicles will overhang the curb. So that will include the sidewalk umm. 00:17:03
The sidewalk currently is 5 feet 5 1/2 including the curb. So we need to have at least 4 feet of unimpeded uh sidewalk with the 00:17:13
car overhang. Car overhang is typically 2 feet are considered to be two feet. 00:17:22
We we can just put in service options for that if that helps. 00:17:33
Uh, the 18 seat length, I don't know if that would allow for a curb stop. I think that might be too short for curb stop and and to 00:17:38
fit a car, fit a vehicle. 00:17:44
We can look into that. 00:17:53
Yeah, we can look at, we can look into that and we can also umm, adjust those for annual parts. We have extra questions also. 00:17:57
We'll be fine either way. Invite us to redo that and ask that as quick. But the parking is, is where you guys do it at 9, three 00:18:03
and 19. 00:18:09
Sorry, what was the question? 00:18:18
Or when you guys, so we, we allow 18 feet if if there's proper overhang distance, but it's not, I've seen it as 20 feet. Umm. 00:18:26
But in this, in this case with the 5 1/2 foot sidewalk, I think you could do a 19 foot and that would be OK, OK. 00:18:42
So we can either do that or we can take the sidewalks where, umm, from 5:50 to 15. 00:18:50
Yeah. 00:18:58
OK, thank you so much. Yes, just a comment. And I mean, again, I haven't been uh, around that long, uh, but uh, for the ABA 00:19:00
parking, I know, uh, on the, if it's angled, make sure that you really dig into that more. So I just wanna make sure that, uh, you 00:19:07
know that, uh, because I don't believe any of our codes has, uh, you know, shows requirements for ADA at angles, but you know, 00:19:15
that would fall. 00:19:22
The National Aviation Standards. So let's make sure that's being considered, you know. 00:19:30
Umm, and I didn't, I didn't see a landscaping plan and obviously there's utilities aren't set yet, but uh, just make sure that 00:19:40
there's no deep rooted plants next to the water meter or fire hydrant. 00:19:47
Let's see. 00:20:02
I think that might have been all I had. 00:20:11
Cool. Uh, how about the that's the question for parks and racks? Anything that you would like to add to? 00:20:19
I'm so happy you're happy here. 00:20:28
Alright, well, Eric, Sir. 00:20:32
Nothing, nothing from it, Eric. And then I'll give it back to my items and after coverage the the best parts of it too. 00:20:35
Uh, Chris Johnson. 00:20:43
Uh, just on the deferred system, it'll the fire depression system and the fire detection system. 00:20:46
Is, uh, that's OK. Just I'm curious about the slight utility plan for Fire Protection systems where we need to know where the fire 00:20:53
rising room is. So we know fire hydrant placement. I would be wary of different, different that just so we can make sure we get 00:21:00
that right location. And just to add on with the far, far, far, umm, suppression system, just make sure that there you dig into 00:21:08
our, our organs, uh, in regards to the fire, the water, uh, just. 00:21:15
The fire suppression system pressures that they will provide will guarantee statement of requirements and nothing more. 00:21:23
No worries, just give me a half Fire Marshall. 00:21:34
Yeah, we have a deputy Fire Marshall assigned to you. 00:21:39
Who is that Brandon Valley? 00:21:44
She's the one speaking right now. 00:21:47
Hey, doing good. 00:21:51
I'm a, I'm a retired pharmacy right now. Yeah. I also had questions on the, I don't see that very often on the site utility plan 00:21:53
for Fire Protection. And so like in an approval on this, uh, site plan, it would come with just approved on the contingent to or 00:22:01
based on that you're following IFC, umm, appendix C. 00:22:09
For hydrant placement and the relationship to the FTC, there was so much underground inspection that has to happen for that it it 00:22:18
would be. 00:22:23
Beneficial to get that in ahead of time, OK. 00:22:29
We we know, we know those requirements, so we'll get along. That's fine. 00:22:34
Do you want me to add in my comments right now? Yeah, so, uh, yeah. So Brandon, how was uh, or on fire? Go ahead Sir. So mine were 00:22:41
pretty simple. I just noticed in applicable codes, umm, it shows the 2018 international fire code and it should say the 2021 umm 00:22:47
international fire code on that and then. 00:22:53
Uh, it looks like you already have construction type and umm, square footage in there, so fire flow wouldn't be an issue to figure 00:23:02
out. Hydrants needed. 00:23:06
That's that's all I have on it. 00:23:12
Perfect. 00:23:16
OK. 00:23:18
And also the IPC IMC also tells us the 2021 except for the NEC 2020, that's good. 00:23:20
I'll come and update when you do 2021. Did you get that gel? Yeah, I, I'm, I'm also taking notes here that I'll send over to you 00:23:37
guys as well. OK? 00:23:41
Thank you. So I'm going forward at IBCNI. You guys were both about the 2021 yesterday. 00:23:46
Yeah, that's correct. OK, perfect. And I'm just basically on that, just make sure that the about the state of Utah code. So as 00:23:55
long as they saw it says Utah codes, it should be fine. 00:24:02
OK, So, yeah, going forward, I'll send these comments over to you. You know, once we get feedback and, and other requested 00:24:11
changes, we can, uh, go ahead and, and discuss further progress, whether that's making it the Planning Commission in two weeks, 00:24:17
umm, or, you know, if it takes a little bit more time to get these documents, that might be a month out. But after that, after 00:24:23
Planning Commission, it'll then go to the building department for, uh, building permit review. 00:24:29
I apologize, I do have uh, just a few more comments. Umm, So on this, uh, there is an upcoming change it, it may be in place when 00:24:36
it gets to the permitting process. 00:24:42
But there will be, uh, we're working on separating the alarm and the sprinkler plans into their own permit, umm, just so that. 00:24:48
The contractors have more, uh, power to follow their own permits and it's more spelled out in that way. Nothing gets missed on 00:24:58
your side. It, it helps facilitate the process a lot better and, umm. 00:25:03
Yeah, I have one more. We're, we're used to that allowance, Microsoft, so that's fine. And then the other thing is just they need 00:25:10
to be third parties, umm, reviewed. So we'll need a, a stamp and a letter. 00:25:18
That's it. I'm an engineer, correct? Uh yeah. So like, uh, PCI WC three one of the third party reviewers. 00:25:26
Yeah, OK. 00:25:38
Umm, that's the, in terms of the site plan issues and the Planning Commission, there's nothing on there is alarming to us. We 00:25:41
should be able to get that turned around. How do we get on the planning initiating? Uh, yeah. Just, uh, after I send these off to 00:25:48
you and you send me, you know, the updated landscaping plan that, that shows that 15 foot, uh, uh, set back along Geneva road and, 00:25:55
and the required vegetation. Umm, I can go ahead and just get it scheduled for you to be honest. 00:26:02
Around Planning Commission, OK. 00:26:10
Let's let's do that. Thank you. Right on. All right, guys, thank you so much. Thank you. Cool. 00:26:12
Does anybody else have anything? I think that's it from our end. So no motion on this. No, no motion and we'll move forward to the 00:26:20
next item. Yep. So next item is let me pull up my awesome, uh, e-mail. 00:26:27
So we're going to move to item 2.1? That's correct. Cool. 00:26:37
Alright, so I know. 00:26:43
2.1 which is the vineyards E Blake as you need the industrial business park today's 11 site plan I believe we have Mr. Chris 00:26:47
Gephardt here representing the owner and a cash we'd like to kick us off on Yeah, absolutely. So this is very similar project to 00:26:55
what they have built with Ms. properties in the past. I can show you here on the. 00:27:04
Map the the location here. 00:27:13
So this lot right here to Southwest 1750. 00:27:15
Umm going back to this, they are proposing 2 structures, a 68,000 square foot building and a 4848 thousand oh 48,600 not 48,006 00:27:20
thousand square foot building to fill in the underutilized West side of lot 1. 00:27:29
It will be a insulated concrete panel construction designed here in manufacturing in Utah, Nashville 3 tone color schemes 00:27:38
mastering Valley. It'll be, uh, their stripe, their state landscape. 00:27:44
Here's the site plan here you can see the, the two different buildings, the larger one right here, smaller one right here. We'll 00:27:50
have 3 entrances onto 1750 N Umm, I've discussed with the, the applicant, umm, the, the possibility of trying to make these align 00:27:58
more with the umm, surrounding uh, properties to the north. Umm, It has been been a little difficult with, you know, with both of 00:28:05
these right here, umm, so we can have further discussion on that. 00:28:12
Umm, but let me pull up my comments on the whole project here. OK, so on the cover sheet there were some small things that that 00:28:20
need to get fixed and I've gone over this with them. Umm, they are needing to increase some landscaping over here on the UMM. 00:28:28
The northeast corner of the lot. 00:28:38
Let's see, uh. 00:28:42
Already umm, so I think it'd be beneficial to go through each department and I'll, I'll track notes and send them any other 00:29:14
updates that are required. Umm. 00:29:18
So here's that and I can show you the elevations as well if there's any other. 00:29:24
I thought I had those in this set here. 00:29:31
Sorry. 00:29:35
Umm, it might take me a second to find the elevations. Umm, oh, they're right here. 00:29:43
And I believe that is not blue paint, it is just glass. And we've had some, uh, issues with blue paint. 00:29:54
So yeah, here the elevation for the buildings, they look very similar to the other products that have been built in the area. Umm, 00:30:16
here's their landscaping plan and and you know, shows adequate parking. Umm, they will have the the center here will be used for 00:30:22
the the semis to access. 00:30:27
Umm, and with that I can turn it over to the team to go through departments. 00:30:34
All right. No, Yeah, go ahead. Thank you. I'll just go ahead and start off with that password for for the work engineering. 00:30:42
Umm, yeah. So I guess one thing on, on here is we'll, we'll need to, need to do a, uh, water study, umm, for this area to make 00:30:56
sure that we have the, the proper water capacity, umm. 00:31:04
And then we'll, we'll, we'll get into it more, umm, during a technical review with the land disturbance permit, but, umm, I 00:31:13
noticed that there was a, kind of a retention area, uh, or, or something in, in the, in the back for storm water. Umm, if, if 00:31:22
that's gonna be a retention area, I would, uh, want to see a percolation test or something to see. 00:31:30
How how fast the water will percolate into the ground. 00:31:40
Umm, and that's, that's about I, I didn't know that this could, this will be on the, on the fireside, but uh, uh, with the FTCS, 00:31:45
we, we need a fire hydrant within 100 feet of the FTCS, right? Correct. 00:31:52
So right now there's 200 plus feet away, so we'll need to address that. 00:32:00
I think that's about it, but I had. 00:32:09
It's been 100. 00:32:12
Uh, package. Was there something about the with the driveway? I, I, I apologize, you might have to say that. 00:32:15
Umm, cash briefly mentioned it, but uh, we, yeah, I think we need to have a discussion about the staff center access, umm, where 00:32:22
there's access points across the street as well. And so there's gonna be less turn conflict, uh, coming in and out of that, that 00:32:29
access point so. 00:32:36
Yeah, everyone if if you. 00:32:47
If you could just go to Mike just to address any concern. Sorry, but we're, we're official with our DFC meetings now. It's all 00:32:50
recorded and everything. I'm not sure where that comes from, but uh, yeah, I don't that would change the whole layout. I mean 00:32:59
trying to line, I mean, is it, is it, is it possible just to angle that access towards the one across the street? 00:33:07
So in that sense, you'd be reflecting the same type of approach that the One North of it would have. I mean, this one in 00:33:16
particular becomes more of a, uh, concern because of the, the east of it for the road. 00:33:23
Has that curvature right there and then so that become, that's, that's what exaggerates the conflict. Uh, thought if it wasn't for 00:33:30
that, then why didn't that approach? And, and that's the approach where we went to when two cars would be coming to the, to the 00:33:37
main road 1750, uh, from the parking lot, from the north parking lot in the South parking lot. They're facing each other and they, 00:33:44
and actually they have eye contact. 00:33:51
Yeah, all right, so I mean, if we just widen it won't let you line it up or do we have to it's gonna curve it uh, because we're 00:34:02
talking that's our semi route. Yeah, no, I understand that. I mean, if you widen this, I think if you, if you do the widening and 00:34:08
then with the with the striping, like kind of the hash to allow a dumb Xbox to over like over constate and and, uh, approach that. 00:34:15
I don't I don't see an issue with that. 00:34:21
Uh, and then if you. 00:34:28
Seen any issues down there with that? That's a very wide Rd. with its own turn lane in the center. Yeah. One of the issues with 00:34:30
offsetting driveways like that is when 2 vehicles are coming in, uh, to turn left into those separate businesses, they'll, they'll 00:34:37
meet in the middle of this conflict there. So like that's what I mean, I'm like, we got that's all industrial down there, all 00:34:44
trucks coming in now. Have we seen a problem with that? 00:34:51
Because I've been down there the last 10 years. 00:34:59
I have not taken call with that. Can we ensure that it would never happen in the future? 00:35:01
Seems like we're making problems to fix. Well again, this is. 00:35:07
That's what you guys are. 00:35:14
Yeah, and yeah, and yeah, uh, I, I'm sure you're gonna understand what I said that we review these, uh, applications as they come 00:35:16
forward. So, and then, uh, and then, of course the study, uh, for other areas that might be causing issues in the city or for 00:35:23
other things, the city will work with those individual building owners to correct any type of concerns on the, on those down sale. 00:35:30
We know, we, we, we won't hold, uh, you know, we won't hold them, uh, liable. 00:35:38
Before this, and we as you all will be liable for that, for that. We won't say that you can't get this approved until everyone 00:35:45
else fixes their driver purchase address. So, but I think, I mean, I think, yeah, I think for the have, uh, what you propose and 00:35:53
of course you can talk offline during the technical review with engineering in regards to, uh, meeting our, uh, conflict concerns 00:36:00
and then of course, meeting your needs for uh, truck access results that we don't want to. 00:36:08
Uh, fix to one problem but create another problem is all. 00:36:16
Exactly. I just don't, you know, you try to start lining all them up, but it's going to make it real tough to put buildings where 00:36:20
you put them, you know? 00:36:24
That, that seems like a lot to work on. That goes, uh, that goes, uh, engineering, public works job security for a long time 00:36:30
because you're a lot different. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:36:35
Uh, was there anything else? I'm sorry. Thanks. Thank you for the call, Sir. 00:36:42
OK. Yeah, just like that, just for you can work directly with, uh, Patrick engineering. Yeah, after the discussion. Oh, that's 00:36:46
good. Yeah. 00:36:49
Not a problem. Alright, John. OK, Patrick, will you write the outside? Umm, I don't, I don't think I had anything else. No, thank 00:36:54
you. Umm, alright. Uh, with that being said, uh, uh, I'm sorry. I'll Preston. OK, uh, Eric, Sir. 00:37:03
Alright, that's American. And of course, uh, Patrick, it's a, it's a good spot for me. So he makes my job easy. Thank you, Sir. 00:37:14
Uh, Chris, Jonathan, perfect building. I don't have anything, just, uh, what happened with his connection? Yeah. 00:37:22
And then, uh, yeah, just I guess the point that's happened about the, I think what you call the wire, the wire, but it's kind of 00:37:33
utility to ensure like questions and so forth service so you can give a password offline as well and then we can help out. 00:37:40
Same with the Yeah, yeah. 00:37:50
Yeah. 00:37:55
Yeah, yeah, usually, yeah. And then usually with utility testing, my service delivery, as things grow, we always have to 00:37:58
revalidate stuff. So again, it's just, uh, I just wanna make sure that before you guys start doing anything to give us a topic to 00:38:03
make sure that, uh, what you're doing is what we're looking for and vice versa. 00:38:09
All right, uh, and then, uh, you're, you're, you're good. OK. And then, uh, Brandon with, uh, on fire. 00:38:15
Uh, my stuff is for the future of this building. Umm, so is this, uh, is this a spec warehouse right now? OK, do you have, uh, any 00:38:22
idea what kind of sprinkler system or has a class you're putting the sprinklers in for? Is it just to the spec? It'll just be to 00:38:31
the spec, the shell. OK, What's gonna go on? Alright. 00:38:39
Umm, we ran into the issue recently where when a building like this is built to a spec. 00:38:48
And it's just flooring walls, sprinkler system and alarm system that when the the new tenant goes in, they're not aware that they 00:38:54
need to upgrade or change it. So when they go to put in racking, when they go to do that kind of stuff, there will be additional 00:39:00
and they may need to revamp their whole sprinkler and alarm system at that point. 00:39:07
In the government production you never know. So we need it, we need to decide when we get it to start with. 00:39:17
OK, so most people shoot for like a class 4, umm, that's everything except for like a high hazard. And then, you know, anyone with 00:39:25
a high hazard should be aware that they need to modify their system when they come in anyway. So anyways, that's, that's all I 00:39:30
had. 00:39:35
Great. Thank you very much, Sir. So, Cash, we would like to wrap this up, Sir. Yeah, yeah, I will just forward these comments on 00:39:42
to you. It doesn't look like there's a lot of changes that we're requesting. Uh, we can most likely get this on to, to Planning 00:39:47
Commission in two weeks. Umm, do you have any questions for us? No, it sounds like. 00:39:52
He gave you an updated landscape. Oh, you did OK? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. 00:39:57
Yep. 00:40:03
Yep, Yep, Yep. 00:40:05
So like I'm going to approach, I know you guys have a limit to how widely the perfect being, yeah. 00:40:09
So I mean, so we have yeah, I know we do have a bonus in terms of that anybody where you come down to like for your standards 00:40:20
standard cases. If you're having like any kind of like a special youth kids like for example, this is your delivery truck in and 00:40:27
out again, just you can give us after directly like right after this e-mail passwords like, OK, I'm seeing this. You know, I don't 00:40:34
I don't think anything knows what he's talking about. So I need Patrick. 00:40:41
Fantastic, exciting little desire, but I mean things like that, like, umm, you know, it comes down to like almost like a uh, 00:40:48
special use condition, uh, type thing. But uh, we've been with that being said, you know, we're trying to say, OK, this makes 00:40:54
sense. Usually again, I'm not gonna, I'm not saying this is exactly the case, but you know, uh, I mean, you guys use really good 00:41:00
engineers as well, so, umm, they can think about it on there, but if you do something a little bit wider and then you try and then 00:41:06
you, umm, hash it out and. 00:41:12
Umm, So what that does is it tells normal drivers to this is the, this is the path to go. And then, and then your, uh, special use 00:41:18
case truck drivers, you'd need to overcompensate are able to do that. Something very similar that we did. Uh, because you know, 00:41:25
we, uh, it was, uh, you guys did the 600 N connection to on the West side where that curve, you know, we did that. We did, you 00:41:33
know, the curve was done like you normally would do is right near the railroad tracks, but it wasn't. 00:41:40
Want to meet the needs of the truckers and so forth. So we have to do the special kind of like a special case. We overcompase to 00:41:48
get the curve to uh, to be outside where we typically would do it in order to allow for us to take maneuvering. So we, you know, 00:41:55
we were required to the curve to uh, secure one concern, but when we did that, we created another concern. Yeah. So that's the 00:42:01
nice thing about engineering too is. 00:42:08
It's job security, you know? Exactly. 00:42:15
So yeah, like I said, just give a Patrick directly and you know, we're we're happy to walk you, walk you through there before you 00:42:18
push airport concrete. We're happy to like go through the motions. 00:42:22
We'll get our civil engineer to send one over to your. 00:42:26
And then if you, yeah, you're good with that, get on the Planning Commission. Yeah, Thanks, Sir. Appreciate. Appreciate your time. 00:42:30
Alright, Mom. 00:42:34
That being said, we have one last one, uh 2.3 on the docket, uh, with the applicants not here cash so. 00:42:40
David Peterson. 00:42:51
Hey, David, are you with the? Well with the? 00:42:55
OK. 00:42:59
Cool. Alright, well, alright, 2 points. We need uh, hold on with the old LDS, uh, church, uh, site plan, uh, cash. 00:43:02
Yeah, I asked me. I think that's why. All right. Thank you, machine. 00:43:13
I'm really excited to umm. 00:43:19
Be the one reviewing this anointed building. 00:43:21
And, umm. 00:43:28
Yeah, the So we have the applicant, umm, applying for, umm, a proposed construction of a new meeting house, uh, which will be 00:43:30
located on the northeast corner of uh, Main Street and 400 S in our city. 00:43:39
And umm, this meeting house is umm. 00:43:49
You know, in total going to be about 24,000 square feet and it will consist of a Chapel, uh, the cultural hall, you know, just the 00:43:54
regular, the offices, umm, classrooms and all for religious use, umm. 00:44:01
The elevation, as has been presented is, umm, going to be veneer, uh, brick veneer. And uh, I felt shingles on top of it. The 00:44:10
roof, umm. 00:44:16
They have also just going through quite a bit of the umm. 00:44:26
Stuff they have. 00:44:31
Also, UMM said that the meeting house would be used then on Sundays and some weekday evenings as well. UMM in reviewing that. 00:44:35
And review on the plants so far umm Parkin was they provided more parking than than is expected or required umm. 00:44:47
You know, what was required was about 111 parking stalls. They provided 269 or 268 depending on which sheets you're looking at. So 00:44:57
it's one of my comments they need to consult, you know, just try to make sure all the sheets have the same number of parking 00:45:05
stalls given that. 00:45:13
And we want to be able to have a consistent number throughout the plans that are being, uh, provided. 00:45:22
Umm. 00:45:28
So 1, you know, again, back on the number of parking. It's about 158 or 57 depending on which one they decide to go with. More 00:45:30
than what is required, which is a good thing. Umm. 00:45:36
One of the comments I had also was umm, on the lights and requirements. Uh, it's required that according to our code, we have warm 00:45:45
colored lighting. Uh, I don't see anything in the plan that shows that that's the recommended for the exterior. So umm, it'll be 00:45:51
nice to have that the. 00:45:58
The lighting pose, you know, the, the height of all the lighting poles as presented in the plant are, you know, a meeting code, 00:46:06
which is a good thing, umm, However, on the photometric plan, I realized that the, umm, entrances and exits are not adequately lit 00:46:14
as, umm, it should be as required by the code. So at least there should be some little, a little bit more lighting in the entrance 00:46:21
and exit, uh, parts of. 00:46:28
Umm of a site with a landscape. 00:46:37
You're fixing the lighting at the entrances to the building or the entrances to the site? To the site parking. Yeah. So the 00:46:43
building is perfect. It's more than enough. 00:46:49
Yeah, so umm, again it should be down lit just like you have it in the other parts, but umm, the code requires that the entrances 00:46:58
and exits have some more lighting. Umm, another comment that I have has to deal with the landscaping. Umm, I will recommend you 00:47:06
referring to our Vineyard Tree manual to guide you in umm. 00:47:15
The three sizes, umm, there are a few of them that I think needs to make what we have so. 00:47:24
I didn't wanna point it out. 00:47:30
Umm, other than that, that's that's it for my comments right now. Umm, I did speak with this. This plan is actually delayed 00:47:33
because umm, they did make a present like they did submit this plan prior to having to do the UMM. 00:47:41
The final subdivision one, uh, application which is a prerequisite for this one to move on. So that was approved during our last 00:47:51
two DRCS, umm, I have been in communication with Nate Virtual, he said that. 00:48:00
I mean, he's traveling today, though, but he will call me later to discuss when that could be recorded. And we need that to be 00:48:10
recorded to move forward with everything else. So I'm not sure they're gonna go on the Planning Commission, umm, in two weeks. 00:48:17
But we will be working through the comments that we compiled today and umm, hopefully have them get the approved final plat 00:48:24
recorded to meet all the requirements for our site plan and then we can move on from there. So at this point, I'll just turn it 00:48:31
over to our chair. 00:48:38
Thank you. 00:48:46
So the reason that the site plan can't move forward to the meeting is because it's plaque during quarters first, yes. 00:48:50
OK. 00:49:01
I believe that the Marlarms were president in the hands of the owner. And I'll, I'll, I'll get with the architect and see where 00:49:04
that is. Umm, because once they sign up, it would just be a matter of getting into the city to remain signature, to get it 00:49:12
recorded. Yeah, the flat is certainly waiting on signatures from the church. 00:49:19
Before they'll they'll give it to us so. 00:49:27
OK. 00:49:33
Are there any other items that yeah. So Anthony, when yeah, Anthony, when you do go with that, uh, can you just ask him and, uh, 00:49:36
this is unrelated to this, uh, like application, but the. 00:49:42
Uh, there was a a question that was sent in regards to 400 S connection to Main Street. 00:49:49
All right. Uh, that we'll move on to Patrick with other works in engineering. 00:49:56
You know, I don't, I don't think I have anything uh, for this meeting. Umm, we, we've been going through reviews already, umm, 00:50:02
more intensive reviews already for the site and uh, and so those have been addressed and uh, so I don't think I have anything 00:50:08
further for this meeting. 00:50:14
Yeah, uh, and then I know with the, there's a steak center that was, uh, built over the, another part of the venue city. Umm, 00:50:21
yeah. In regards to, uh, another landscape, uh, I, I know you haven't, uh, probably 1002 of the landscape apartments that they had 00:50:28
did not meet the city's requirements. They did like permanent payments. So if that's gonna be the case here, I'll just coordinate 00:50:36
with, uh, Patrick, uh, in regards to that. Some of that was the. 00:50:43
Code requirement. So yeah, we, we did look into that and there's just some differences between the standard zoning that this falls 00:50:51
into. Well, I guess that's the whole way field, OK and the waters edge. OK, I just wanna make sure that was, uh, clear. Thanks. 00:50:58
Cool. That being said, let's move on to the rest of the group. So Preston, nothing from Parks and Rec. Thank you, Eric, Sir. OK. 00:51:07
And then Patrick covers the television for me and then Chris Johnson for building. 00:51:13
And then on fire. Brandon, Sir, no items tomorrow. I'm sorry. No. 00:51:22
Yeah. 00:51:32
Yeah, I know. The only other thing I, I mean, I'm sorry, I was kind of looking at this and, umm, I got to know something that, uh, 00:51:33
uh, envy the control. But uh, from here it seems like, uh, they, I mean, they have interested space in this, uh, facing the South 00:51:39
side, which is the front edge of the road right there. Uh, probably something for, uh, us to, uh, to think about and discuss with, 00:51:46
uh, Afghans with the, uh. 00:51:52
And they might be doing it with the landscaping and like maybe enhance over the landscaping is a car specifically beside the park 00:51:59
on the street because. 00:52:04
Third season street park on the street right there. Even though that is not legal, is the easiest uh, source point to go into the 00:52:09
go into the building. 00:52:13
Even though there may be ample parking spots, I often notice that people decide that they wanna walk 5 feet long on that. So maybe 00:52:19
we can, uh, see about when, uh, improvement in the landscaping so we could do something to help, uh, discourage people from 00:52:26
parking illegally right by around the house. 00:52:32
Also, uh, one question, I guess clarification I do have, umm, one thing you might want to look at is how this trail was installed 00:52:41
differently than what is shown here. This is already in place, so that might impact your landscaping. Uh, this originally shows it 00:52:48
going right next to the road and they actually moved it in probably about 5 feet, Yeah. 00:52:55
Yeah, it stays consistent along here. So that will change the the interior landscaping here as well as right next to the road. 00:53:04
Cool. OK. Well, I thought that I think that's everything we got there. There's no motion on this, so there's no motion. Any 00:53:14
questions for us, David? 00:53:18
That's it. Yeah, there was. I I know that I addressed, I know Patrick had a few comments and I think plans over yesterday, umm 00:53:24
things that we had seen on a previous review from like back in January. But anyway, we fixed all those and so I assume do see a 00:53:30
few minor comments. We should be good to go. Yeah. So if we do. 00:53:36
Send over a copy of the list of the comments that we have. Anthony will do that. And if, if we do get that Mylar, you know, in 00:53:44
the, in the next few days, early next week, umm, there's a chance we'd be able to get this on the Planning Commission here in two 00:53:49
weeks. Umm, but if not, we'll, we'll probably look in about a month out for that Planning Commission meeting to get this and the 00:53:55
conditional use permit that's attached to approved. 00:54:00
OK. Sounds good. I don't think that makes it. I appreciate it. OK. 00:54:06
That's it. So, umm, I know seriously, let's talk for 5 minutes about something like no, umm, that being said, I know we're not 00:54:14
gonna be going over the DRC, Viola, VRC violence and so forth. So I, I know Anthony will work with, uh, everyone to, uh, get that 00:54:20
on there later agenda. Umm, yeah, we, we just, with three site plans on here. I was concerned we wouldn't have adequate time to 00:54:26
have a, a good discussion on that. I think we can all agree on that. So all right, uh, OK, well, I guess the one last round if 00:54:32
anyone has common. 00:54:37
I I did just see that stolen online. I don't know if he has any comments on anything that that we reviewed. 00:54:44
So I'm just working, OK, I know I, I don't have any comments on these applications are, are looking pretty good. Umm, they've all 00:54:51
been, you know, cooperating with us and and getting us the documents that we need. Yeah, I know. All right, I appreciate that. I, 00:54:57
I expected to help you out covered all the common services as far as some other works engineering. So we're good. Umm Patrick, do 00:55:02
you have anything specific, anything else there for the group? Not for any about these type plans because we've already covered 00:55:08
all the pipelines anyway. 00:55:13
Thank you. 00:55:21
No. OK. Moving on, Anthony, Sir. Anthony, thank you. 00:55:23
No. And pressing yeah, Eric, Sir, I got nothing to the group, Chris Johnson and then. 00:55:28
Actually, I'll say one more thing. I understand I messed up and not getting the agenda sent out. I thought our software was 00:55:39
sending that out as we published it to people that are on the board, but it looks like it is not doing that. So I, I probably 00:55:44
don't have something set up right. So anyways, that being said, I'm just working on getting that fixed. So hopefully we can get 00:55:50
the agenda to you earlier, give you a little bit more time to, to review what we're gonna be going over. 00:55:56
Umm, and, and with that being said, I'm open to any suggestions on how we could, uh, you know, make things run a little bit 00:56:03
through there, whatever it may be. I, I talked to Brandon last week for a good little bit on, on some changes that we could 00:56:08
possibly make. So. 00:56:12
Like I said, I'm totally happy to to hear any of those changes and and do what we can to to make these meetings run a little bit 00:56:18
smoother. 00:56:21
Something. 00:56:27
We got 3 minutes after. Thank you. So I, I just wanted to remind the team to review that DRC bylaws for the next time that we 00:56:31
probably meet to discuss it so that we all at least have reviewed it before every discussion. It's, it's not a long one. It's 00:56:39
about just two, two or three pages, I guess so. 00:56:47
That's that's the only thing. 00:56:57
Thank you, Sir. Bye, bye. Does anyone have a motion to adjourn? 00:56:59
You know you're not part of this talk. Sorry. 00:57:06
OK, So we got a motion to adjourn from, uh, Eric Ellis. Uh, do you have a second? 00:57:11
And Chris Johnson second, uh, all, all those who would like to adjourn. All right, take care. 00:57:16
Do we have a bylaw talk about impeaching the chair? 00:57:25
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