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April 2018, 2024. | 00:00:10 | |
The April 18, 2024. | 00:00:20 | |
Development Review Committee meeting. | 00:00:24 | |
Is now in order. | 00:00:27 | |
There we go. OK, so do we have to do roll call? | 00:00:34 | |
Sweet. OK, well just make a note that the. | 00:00:36 | |
Two people are that are not present today or two positions are not present today. | 00:00:44 | |
Commission City Manager and community Development director, I appreciate that. OK, so and then. Otherwise we have myself. | 00:00:50 | |
Representing public works engineering and seeing the indoor Let's just do this. Chris Johnson, would you like to call yourself in? | 00:01:00 | |
Chris Johnson Johnson Building official. | 00:01:07 | |
Brandon Valley Fire Department. | 00:01:12 | |
Preston Jensen, parks manager. | 00:01:18 | |
And we're happy to have Preston here today. And then we have Anthony. Yes, Anthony Fletcher. Plenty. There we go, sweetie. OK. | 00:01:21 | |
Well, I appreciate that though. So now that we call this call this to order. | 00:01:26 | |
We're having. | 00:01:34 | |
We have two items on our agenda, both underneath the work sessions. | 00:01:36 | |
Item 2.1 when these sites plan application and. | 00:01:40 | |
Will that be now I'm gonna be handing handling both of these site plan applications, so take a take away cash. OK, great. Let me | 00:01:46 | |
show you guys just contextual map here we have Geneva Road and then we have Muddy boys, if you're familiar with that business. | 00:01:53 | |
Just north of that lot is the proposed windy site plan. It's one of Steve Pruitt's properties. | 00:02:00 | |
So with that, here's the site. It does not have direct access off of Geneva Rd. It will have this access Rd. that will go actually | 00:02:08 | |
through like the birds property. | 00:02:13 | |
To the West. | 00:02:19 | |
That'll come up and then it'll have an entrance point right here on the Northside. This is just an exit on this side here. | 00:02:20 | |
The Pruitts are going to be working on a like a multi tenant building to the north. So that's going to be kind of the shared drive | 00:02:29 | |
access there and it might connect onto Geneva Road right there. I could be mistaken, we do have the applicants here to. | 00:02:35 | |
If they know anything, it looks like yes on that. OK. So as far as the site point goes, we've worked with them quite a bit on | 00:02:42 | |
making quite a few changes on this. | 00:02:47 | |
Originally that the drive through stacking length wasn't quite long enough and it was going beyond the parking stalls blocking | 00:02:53 | |
some of those in, so we worked with them to shift the building to the east. | 00:02:58 | |
As well as moving the dumpster enclosure to allow the the drive through to be pushed to the the West as much as possible. | 00:03:04 | |
As far as the planning department goes, they they've done a great job of addressing all of our concerns. They're they've met our | 00:03:12 | |
landscaping requirements. | 00:03:15 | |
They have our drive through stacking requirements. They will have to go through the conditional use permit as the drive through | 00:03:19 | |
does wrap the the front of the building which is Geneva Rd. | 00:03:23 | |
They have great pedestrian access here off of Geneva Rd. With the sidewalk that will connect. | 00:03:29 | |
Here, all the way across the north side of the property, all the way to. | 00:03:33 | |
The other part of Steve Pruitt's property. | 00:03:38 | |
One thing to note is there is this little piece of property right here that we're going to have to figure out. Part of the the | 00:03:42 | |
GRMU code does require that they have a 15 foot landscape buffer between or. Sorry, they're in the RMU. | 00:03:48 | |
Regardless, they have to have landscaping right here. | 00:03:55 | |
And of Steve Pruitt S going to be taking that on as the landowner. And so it is not a part of the site plan. We do need to figure | 00:03:57 | |
out how to make sure that that happens in conjunction with the site plan development, though. So we will be meeting with Steve | 00:04:02 | |
Pruitt. | 00:04:07 | |
Hopefully maybe today in the same and we can. | 00:04:12 | |
Talk about that. | 00:04:16 | |
But yeah, that's all I have. We can go through each department and I'll take notes on any comments that you guys may have. I can | 00:04:19 | |
flip through these if you guys want to see landscaping, I know. | 00:04:23 | |
You guys don't care about that as much as I do. | 00:04:28 | |
And then I do have the elevations as well, so you can see what the building looks like. | 00:04:32 | |
Cool. All right, well, let's go ahead and go through the departments, so. | 00:04:38 | |
Cash Will you like to? | 00:04:42 | |
I pretty much gave mine that we just need to figure out that landscaping on the east side. | 00:04:44 | |
I'll just get with me afterwards. | 00:04:50 | |
And I've there's some options out there. | 00:04:54 | |
All right. Patrick, would you like to? | 00:04:56 | |
Good comments for public works engineering. | 00:04:59 | |
Yeah, I think the only comments that we had it for engineering is to provide a public utility easement, 10 foot easement along the | 00:05:02 | |
east edge of the property. | 00:05:08 | |
And then when the site is fully developed or the site plans are fully developed, we'll do a full land disturbance permit and | 00:05:14 | |
technical review at that time. | 00:05:19 | |
To review utilities and. | 00:05:25 | |
And the like. | 00:05:27 | |
All right, though they believe in one item. I just want to make sure it's added up something that the. | 00:05:32 | |
With on the site plan approval for the. | 00:05:41 | |
The dumpster enclosure, something I've noticed quite a bit, as well as dumpster closed doors tend to stay open quite quite often. | 00:05:45 | |
Throughout the day and operations. | 00:05:52 | |
I'm not the person who worries about. | 00:05:57 | |
Looking at a dumpster. But typically what happens is that those doors encroach into the flow of traffic. | 00:05:59 | |
On that so. | 00:06:06 | |
On this particular plan, and I know that's another site plans, you know, the dumpster closures are placed a little bit differently | 00:06:07 | |
than the site plans. | 00:06:11 | |
So I'm sure that some of the other areas have. | 00:06:15 | |
They were at exactly the location they may have. | 00:06:17 | |
Been identified but in this one particular. | 00:06:20 | |
Where the door is open, I just wanna make sure that that doesn't encroach into the flow traffic as you egress out. | 00:06:23 | |
So would you like to see like the enclosure? | 00:06:29 | |
Pushed back to the northeast. You push it. Yeah, push it back much as possible. Sure That when the doors are fully open that they | 00:06:31 | |
don't. | 00:06:35 | |
Yeah, they don't. | 00:06:40 | |
Impede the traffic, I mean that's also. | 00:06:43 | |
I mean, it's on private property, so it turns out to be a liability issue on the property owner if there's a if there's a | 00:06:45 | |
accident. | 00:06:49 | |
On that. | 00:06:53 | |
So, but bottom line I would just say if they didn't want to have any kind of inconvenience or liabilities put against them on | 00:06:55 | |
that, so to put. | 00:06:59 | |
I'll take a review of that share on that. | 00:07:03 | |
Having run solid waste operations for. | 00:07:07 | |
Like 8 years my drivers were very. | 00:07:10 | |
Told to always close those doors. | 00:07:14 | |
As a city, we didn't want to have that liability on us. | 00:07:17 | |
So that and then sidewalk connections I saw that and cache this is probably something that be on your court on the. | 00:07:22 | |
Sidewalk connection that goes east. | 00:07:32 | |
Towards Geneva from the Wendy's as it crosses over that drive through lane. | 00:07:35 | |
Yeah, right here I got. Yeah, the question is was determining into. | 00:07:40 | |
As of right now that's we're going to have to discuss with Steve Pruitt exactly what this will look like over here. We do have | 00:07:44 | |
that the Geneva Rd. trail that will be going along the the West side of Geneva Rd. hopefully in the coming decade. | 00:07:52 | |
But we just want to ensure that all of our sites do tie into that. | 00:08:03 | |
As much as possible. And so we'll work with Steve Pruitt on that. | 00:08:07 | |
But if you look at the site the the Mr. Car Wash and the Jiffy Lube right now, they both have a very similar. | 00:08:11 | |
Sidewalk Terminus just right on the property line there, Yeah, and. | 00:08:17 | |
Forgive me for not knowing this specifically right here, but does that go into EU dot right away? | 00:08:24 | |
The sidewalk there, Yeah, I need a construction activities as well because that would have to. It shouldn't. This site plan ends | 00:08:31 | |
right on that red border. | 00:08:36 | |
Yeah, but the but the improvements itself. | 00:08:42 | |
So that would be something that we would Patrick for. | 00:08:45 | |
Us to ensure that we. | 00:08:49 | |
Require their Udot encroachment. | 00:08:51 | |
Does the sidewalk actually, will the sidewalk be built all the way out there? Because it seems like they've been just stopping at | 00:08:54 | |
the property line. Yeah. Yep. So this sidewalk will come into. | 00:09:00 | |
Construction once we work it out with Steve Crew on the landscaping. | 00:09:07 | |
That's my understanding that he's going to take on the sidewalk. I don't know if our applicant wants to. | 00:09:12 | |
Has any more insight on that? But I would assume that since Steve Pruitt is going to be doing the improvements in this section of | 00:09:18 | |
his property that he would be handling that sidewalk. | 00:09:22 | |
Yeah, yeah, you have to. You have to go up to the bank, unfortunately. | 00:09:31 | |
We have ceiling mics. | 00:09:36 | |
That'd be cool. | 00:09:38 | |
I believe you have to state your name and who you were with, right? | 00:09:44 | |
OK. And OK, that's fine. | 00:09:51 | |
Alright, sorry, yeah. | 00:09:56 | |
Yeah, With this being with you, having plans for widening expansions on this? | 00:10:05 | |
We need, we need to do our due diligence and confirm that it should. Yeah, that's fine. Just. | 00:10:12 | |
Yeah, and so I just ask send this over to. | 00:10:19 | |
Patrick can provide the UDOT office. | 00:10:24 | |
Right there, send it over to the office to say. Make sure you have your lines at this or your boundaries of the service and just | 00:10:27 | |
ask a simple question. | 00:10:30 | |
Yeah, that's. | 00:10:34 | |
And then of course. | 00:10:36 | |
I'm not sure here, but UDOT may because this happened in the past and I know it's not something for any engineering firm to | 00:10:38 | |
consider, but. | 00:10:43 | |
Patrick for it might be better for when we do our full design reviews and pre construction about access off Geneva construction | 00:10:48 | |
access off Geneva. | 00:10:53 | |
Because I would make sure that the dots are aware of that as well. | 00:10:58 | |
Because that's going to require swips and so forth. But. | 00:11:02 | |
And then of course leave a lot of, maybe inconvenience a lot of people. | 00:11:05 | |
But I think that's more. | 00:11:08 | |
Further down the road though, I think that might affect what your final designs would be any? | 00:11:11 | |
Construction entrances, if you would have to denote them. | 00:11:18 | |
On that one. | 00:11:23 | |
Cool. That's. I've got so. | 00:11:25 | |
I'll go forward with UH. | 00:11:30 | |
Oh wait, Patrick. And you said public utility easement on the east side. That's the east side of the property, The property | 00:11:33 | |
between Geneva and the. | 00:11:38 | |
Property, yeah, we've been, we've been. | 00:11:42 | |
Wanting all the businesses along there to have AP on the east side, are you talking about the landscaping strip between their | 00:11:45 | |
property in Geneva? | 00:11:49 | |
Or the word like the drive through is that. | 00:11:53 | |
I would think it would be where the drive through is at because it would need to be on. | 00:11:56 | |
This property not in EU dot right away am I? | 00:12:01 | |
Yeah, it would have to be outside there either way, because if it's if you have a Public Utilities and within there right away, | 00:12:07 | |
then you have to follow all EU dots requirements, which is not necessarily bad, it's just. | 00:12:12 | |
Every time any kind of work has to be done, you thought it has to be notified. Yeah, it's it's my understanding that the water | 00:12:17 | |
main will continue up along there. | 00:12:21 | |
To connect. | 00:12:27 | |
Farther up to the northwest corner of the Pruitt property. | 00:12:29 | |
And so we will need an easement for that, anything on the West side because I was reviewing all the easement documents yesterday | 00:12:35 | |
and there seemed to be a need for an easement on the West side to the property as well. | 00:12:41 | |
The West side has sewer and storm drain running through the absolutely. Yeah and so that this particular case and we we do have a | 00:12:48 | |
meeting with Mr. Pruitt and company later today but. | 00:12:54 | |
Just I guess for your information. And of course it'll get confirmed by the your. | 00:13:01 | |
Your client that it was easement on the West side for the sewer storm drain systems is going to be asked for by the city. | 00:13:07 | |
As well. | 00:13:16 | |
So yeah. | 00:13:17 | |
OK, well that's a. | 00:13:21 | |
That's all we have on our side. So I'll pass to Mike. How about we give it to Anthony? Do you have anything, Sir? | 00:13:22 | |
No cash that at all. | 00:13:29 | |
Thank you as usual. | 00:13:31 | |
So, Mr. Johnson, would you like to go for building? | 00:13:34 | |
Building department has no items. | 00:13:38 | |
We'll have our items when you submit for the building permit. | 00:13:40 | |
Sorry. And in regards to the items for the building permit, Patrick, you say much more eloquently than I do by bonds requirements | 00:13:46 | |
for building permits. | 00:13:50 | |
So before a building permit can be issued any any infrastructure that's not in place for the for the site. | 00:13:57 | |
Will need to be bonded for. | 00:14:07 | |
Just to ensure that that gets. | 00:14:10 | |
Done before. | 00:14:12 | |
Before the building permit. | 00:14:15 | |
That's for both public and private. | 00:14:17 | |
Is that a building permit is issued or applied for issued issue. | 00:14:19 | |
Sorry. Thank you very much. All right, let's move on to the fire department. | 00:14:25 | |
Fire department doesn't have anything. | 00:14:30 | |
And then Mr. Preston for Parks and Rec. | 00:14:33 | |
Yeah, no comment. | 00:14:37 | |
I guess, yeah, I look forward to. | 00:14:40 | |
Because we look forward to seeing the next step of this process. I can just give you a brief rundown of kind of next steps here. | 00:14:44 | |
I've compiled all comments here. I'll send them your way. I don't know if we'll need to see an updated site plan with that trash | 00:14:51 | |
enclosure scooted to the northeast, it looks like or angled in a way to kind of prevent those doors from from impeding the flow of | 00:14:58 | |
traffic. But besides that, it looks good. You should be good for Planning Commission here in two weeks. | 00:15:05 | |
It's held in this building at 6:00 PM. Once you have that approval, then you will be moving on to the building permit process and | 00:15:13 | |
the land assurance process which you'll be working with Chris and Nasim on. | 00:15:19 | |
So, and I believe for the planning for the Planning Commission, the items that we talked about with the doc coordinations and so | 00:15:24 | |
forth is not the requirement. There would be a requirement prior to. | 00:15:30 | |
Getting any kind of? | 00:15:36 | |
Permits from public works and engine. | 00:15:38 | |
And then? | 00:15:40 | |
And then maybe. | 00:15:43 | |
Mr. Eric Ash. Yeah. Do you guys have an idea on the Pruitt's timeline? | 00:16:16 | |
Sorry, Sir. Yeah, I think, I also think we should invest in like like some mobile mics. | 00:16:23 | |
Understanding. | 00:16:35 | |
He's wanting to get moving soon. He just hasn't done a site plan yet for that building to the north, which would include that | 00:16:36 | |
landscaping. The land disturbance permit should be finalized after we discussed the easement. Yeah, so the lands of servants. | 00:16:42 | |
Berman's on my desk. I have a meeting with him at 3:00. | 00:16:48 | |
But yeah, that might be a condition of approval Planning Commission is that we do figure out that landscaping. | 00:16:56 | |
Whether that is, you know before the certificate of occupancy is issued that. | 00:17:02 | |
OK, great. Yeah, I just haven't seen it yet, so. | 00:17:09 | |
OK, so he's moving. He's ahead of us. Oh, good to hear. | 00:17:12 | |
So. | 00:17:18 | |
Great. Thank you. | 00:17:24 | |
I have a bit of a correction on the bond statement. | 00:17:27 | |
So the bond would only be for public improvements. | 00:17:32 | |
From what we would discussed a few weeks ago. | 00:17:36 | |
Yeah, the the private improvements will be constructed with the building permit, so. | 00:17:43 | |
So it's only the public improvements that need to be bonded for before the building permit. Thank you. And then so with that being | 00:17:48 | |
said, one while you're doing your magic and finalizing designs. | 00:17:53 | |
Just make sure that you provide the cost breakdowns. | 00:17:59 | |
Appropriately like that. But when you get to that point, Patrick is going to be working closely with you guys as he already has. | 00:18:03 | |
All right, Sorry. All right, well, there's nothing else. Can we close this one out? Do we have to vote? Yeah, the no vote needed | 00:18:10 | |
just a work session. We don't do votes on that. | 00:18:14 | |
On work session items on. | 00:18:19 | |
Thank you very much. I appreciate you guys coming. Thank you. | 00:18:21 | |
All right. | 00:18:37 | |
So we're moving on to item 2.2. Item 2.2 is. | 00:18:41 | |
The agenda I am title is AutoZone site plan application. The presenter again is Mr. Cash Hansy. | 00:18:47 | |
And that's correct. All right. | 00:18:55 | |
So this is another site plan application. This one is located. Let me show you map here we have O'Reilly right here. Jiffy Lube, | 00:18:57 | |
Mr. Car Wash and then AutoZone will be the the constructed one lot to the north of of Mr. Car Wash. | 00:19:05 | |
Along Geneva Rd. Here it will be accessed through a Dr. aisle off of Geneva Rd. as well as that kind of frontage Rd. that goes | 00:19:14 | |
along the GRMU and the backside of it as well. So it has multiple. | 00:19:20 | |
Great, great access points. | 00:19:27 | |
As far as the building goes, it is set back pretty far along the road, but they do meet. The GRMU does have that landscaping | 00:19:29 | |
requirement for the 15 feet of landscaping set back and they've met that between this front section and this other section on the | 00:19:34 | |
other side of that drive aisle. | 00:19:39 | |
We as the planning department, we really don't have any, you know, big comments here they've, they've met our standards with | 00:19:46 | |
parking, with with landscaping. | 00:19:50 | |
So yeah, if we want to move to other departments. | 00:19:56 | |
Unless there's anything else you guys want to see with the site plan. | 00:19:59 | |
In specific. | 00:20:04 | |
No. Take a look at but. | 00:20:07 | |
Mr. Patrick James, would you like to give comments for public works and engineering? | 00:20:10 | |
Again, on this one, we would just want a 10 foot public utility easement along the east property line. | 00:20:15 | |
That's it. | 00:20:24 | |
On in the property. So there is, yeah, this landscaping strip right here, yeah. | 00:20:25 | |
Excuse me, sorry. Would you have to speak into the mic? No. Yeah, you just have to speak into the microphone for it's a | 00:20:35 | |
requirement now. | 00:20:39 | |
OK, so a 10 foot Pew, you said. | 00:20:45 | |
OK. | 00:20:54 | |
That's all you had. That's all I had was good. | 00:20:57 | |
All right. So, Mr. | 00:21:01 | |
Anthony, would you like to give any comments, Sir? | 00:21:04 | |
Thank you. I just wanted to find out from Kari if you were able to. | 00:21:09 | |
Rear end the building in the way, because I know we had a discussion way before. | 00:21:13 | |
About getting making things work in the site, were you able to get it to work? | 00:21:18 | |
And you just so you have to state your name and who you're with. | 00:21:24 | |
You'll see me a lot all the way through building permit that I'm doing. Just a site plans, landscape plans. | 00:21:34 | |
That's kind of my role in this. | 00:21:42 | |
Yeah. So you can see here that we got, we went through several iterations to kind of come up with a location of the building. | 00:21:43 | |
Zoning gave us enough parking. | 00:21:51 | |
Working with X Development, the master developer. | 00:21:54 | |
Some of their infrastructure improvements that the. | 00:21:58 | |
Stick our trash enclosure or building or anything over there in the way of anything, so yeah. | 00:22:08 | |
AutoZone is happy with this plan. We feel good about it. I think it means. | 00:22:13 | |
I don't know that it doesn't. | 00:22:17 | |
Yeah. | 00:22:21 | |
And Anthony to address that, they did make quite a few changes here. So they do have like the pedestrian crossing that does get | 00:22:24 | |
you to Geneva Road or from Geneva Road to their site. They did scoot their building pretty far to the South here. So it was only a | 00:22:31 | |
foot a little over, a foot away from their property line which the the Grme does not have side setbacks. | 00:22:39 | |
So they are within that and then they have the like employer delivery entrance here off to the the backside of the building. | 00:22:47 | |
As well as I believe there's still a roll up garage door right here on the Northside. | 00:22:55 | |
So delivery trucks can be right here, which is. | 00:23:00 | |
Out of the way from from the customers and and hopefully the flow of traffic. | 00:23:02 | |
Sorry, I appreciate that. One item on here on this in regards to the side plan. So this is the same for. | 00:23:10 | |
Part 2 for public works on stuff, and I remember saying through one meeting cash, you'll probably be the one who. | 00:23:18 | |
Corrects me on this one, but those are discussions in regard because I know this bat butts up to the. | 00:23:24 | |
Part the new parking lot for Edgewater Townhomes, was there some discussions about the pedestrian access between that parking lot | 00:23:31 | |
and this development here? So that was actually the Gru office that we thought it would, but the the pedestrians access is | 00:23:37 | |
actually pretty far north and this is on the South side of things. | 00:23:42 | |
So it shouldn't. It shouldn't be that they'll have the. | 00:23:48 | |
Umm, the fence there. OK, that's fine. I think we just make a note. We just make a note for the Planning Commission because they | 00:23:53 | |
probably had the same question. I do, Yeah. Good. I don't know. | 00:23:58 | |
OK. Just want to make sure about that and then uh. | 00:24:04 | |
Patrick again, Yuri going to be the one who corrects me on this one if I'm wrong, but on the West side that this, this our, our | 00:24:07 | |
city easement extends all the way down from here existing easement on the West side. | 00:24:14 | |
Since I believe those are all city utilities in a way. | 00:24:22 | |
Yeah, I believe it extends all the way down the West side. So and then OK, sweet. So other than that, really just the same | 00:24:25 | |
comments with the. | 00:24:29 | |
In regards to the last one, in regards to any kind of. | 00:24:34 | |
Disturbance that's going to be within the that may be within EU dot area on this particular for this particularly I know that the. | 00:24:38 | |
They have. | 00:24:46 | |
Been issued and by the city and also the DLT in regards to the railway connection for into the Geneva. | 00:24:48 | |
On excuse me. | 00:24:55 | |
And to Geneva. | 00:24:57 | |
So just get with. | 00:24:58 | |
So it's not required for the Planning Commission but to study to the intelligence. But because it does, those things do take a | 00:25:00 | |
little longer if it's if it is required. | 00:25:05 | |
To make sure that there's nothing special. | 00:25:11 | |
On the outside, if there's any kind of graduate. | 00:25:15 | |
I don't believe it will be but. | 00:25:18 | |
So ask. | 00:25:20 | |
Yeah. | 00:25:23 | |
Yeah. | 00:25:29 | |
Yeah. | 00:25:32 | |
Yeah, like I said. | 00:25:35 | |
Yeah, I would just ask. I mean just give what your master, the master developer except on that just to make sure because again | 00:25:38 | |
they they may have already covered all that stuff. So again, I hate for a project to be. | 00:25:44 | |
Shut down by the dot just because something was overlooked. | 00:25:51 | |
Yeah, I do have one last thing that came into my mind. In here. You do have a proposed monument sign. All signage will have to be | 00:25:55 | |
approved through a separate permit. So just to take note of that. | 00:26:00 | |
Now sweet. OK, well, that's all the comments that we currently have for this. And then of course is a. | 00:26:07 | |
If you were here for the previous one with Patrick talked about the bonding requirements in the case of a billing permit and of | 00:26:14 | |
course and then. | 00:26:18 | |
The umm. | 00:26:23 | |
No, I think that was. Yep, I think that was it. Anything else but let you know something skipped my mind, Okay. So with that being | 00:26:29 | |
said, Mr. Johnson, would you like to take it over for billing? | 00:26:34 | |
Building department has no no items. | 00:26:40 | |
I'll just bring one thing up. We don't plan to sprinkler the building. There's fire hydrants kind of in the area. | 00:26:45 | |
We said it. | 00:26:52 | |
Is there any issues with that with just utilizing the existing items or the proposed item? The master? | 00:26:53 | |
That was a question I wanted to bring up with our fire Marshall, but I can, I can get back to you, let us know. But right now the | 00:27:03 | |
plan is just not. | 00:27:08 | |
OK. | 00:27:17 | |
Thank you very much. So that being said, fire departments you have. | 00:27:21 | |
Anything else? That was my only question, just about the amount of. | 00:27:25 | |
Hazard class that are stored inside there just I was going to run it up and. | 00:27:29 | |
Have a quick discussion with the Fire Marshall on that one and then. | 00:27:33 | |
That's all I had. Thank you. | 00:27:38 | |
That I think they have some cheap. | 00:27:47 | |
OK. Thank you. | 00:27:55 | |
Mr. Preston. | 00:27:58 | |
Fair parks and rock, Yeah, I don't have anything. | 00:27:59 | |
Sweet. With that being said, I think that concludes all our comments. Is there anything else you would like to answer? | 00:28:03 | |
Yeah, so it is the the. | 00:28:14 | |
Yeah, you are that 4th lot. | 00:28:16 | |
Yep, Yep. So there's a requirement in the army that requires a fence to be put along. | 00:28:24 | |
The front Geneva Rd. frontage. | 00:28:29 | |
So it's a 42 inch like wrought iron fence. | 00:28:33 | |
I don't know why it's in there, but it's in there. | 00:28:36 | |
Awesome. So we look forward to seeing the fans, but we can do, we can do ribbon cutting for it. | 00:28:38 | |
Yeah, we should. | 00:28:44 | |
I I don't know if you heard kind of the tail end of our conversation with Wendy's, but the the next steps here in two weeks we | 00:28:47 | |
should be able to take this to Planning Commission for approval. And then after that you'll be working with Naseem and Chris on | 00:28:51 | |
doing a building permit and land disturbance permit to to get moving on development. Do you have a timeline of of when you're | 00:28:55 | |
wanting to to start? | 00:28:59 | |
Yeah. | 00:29:05 | |
Construction. | 00:29:06 | |
I guess. | 00:29:08 | |
I have to guess July. | 00:29:09 | |
OK. | 00:29:12 | |
Great. | 00:29:20 | |
Yeah, I mean from planning end, you know in two weeks we'll be done with you, you know, but it's. | 00:29:27 | |
Yeah, it could be hung up on, on anything. Yeah. I mean, what comes out there, infrastructure stuff. I mean, we do have there's a | 00:29:32 | |
technical review committee for when it comes to the infrastructure. A technical review committee is informal committee. It's on | 00:29:37 | |
the formal like this. | 00:29:41 | |
Where in essence you submit all this stuff and then it goes through a process. Patrick can provide more information on that | 00:29:45 | |
specifically, but it's really the same that. | 00:29:49 | |
If you work with a city before and most other cities is pretty much the same thing, but we just formalize on internal internally. | 00:29:54 | |
And what I would say is just if you have any questions in regards to infrastructure, just go ahead and reach out to us early. I | 00:30:02 | |
mean, I don't believe you have any need for oil separators here per se, so. | 00:30:08 | |
Your outside agency. | 00:30:14 | |
Coordination other than. | 00:30:17 | |
Maybe you thought, But again, this is that's a big maybe. | 00:30:19 | |
Yeah, the city provides A sewer collection. | 00:30:23 | |
And then on that end of course if. | 00:30:27 | |
If for any reason one of the questions that always comes up to that is about fees and so forth and we're we're always happy to | 00:30:33 | |
provide a cost estimate like an estimate on on that and that's always again an estimate because until something is officially | 00:30:38 | |
given to us, we can't. | 00:30:44 | |
Say officially. | 00:30:50 | |
So but with that being said there's no reason why if you if you feel that the need to posture forward just reach out to Patrick. | 00:30:52 | |
On that and we'll just Patrick we just. | 00:31:00 | |
Things like that. We just create a national site. | 00:31:03 | |
For it and nothing is official until you pay the fees. | 00:31:07 | |
You know how those. | 00:31:11 | |
It'll just be Planning Commission. | 00:31:18 | |
Yep. | 00:31:24 | |
After that money. | 00:31:25 | |
Yep. | 00:31:30 | |
You can submit for or you can kind of do them concurrently, but you'll have to have the land disturbance permit approval finished | 00:31:44 | |
first before the the building permit approval. | 00:31:50 | |
Development is planned. | 00:31:59 | |
The shared infrastructure just. | 00:32:02 | |
That access Rd. I mean is that on anyone's radar that you know of they have a land disturbance permit in for it's in review right | 00:32:05 | |
now. As far as when they're planning on starting construction, I don't know. | 00:32:11 | |
Last question for cash probably on that West side, we talked about just putting some trees to kind of buffer the AutoZone firm | 00:32:18 | |
that. | 00:32:22 | |
Yeah. | 00:32:27 | |
You a minute ago. | 00:32:29 | |
No, no this. | 00:32:35 | |
So it is required, but the parking lot themselves are actually putting in that fence. I think it'll be similar, no? Correct. | 00:32:36 | |
Yep, yeah. I think their requirement is similar to your fencing where it has to be 42 inch wrought iron fence surrounding their | 00:32:45 | |
parking lot. | 00:32:49 | |
And so that they're going to put that on their side of the property. | 00:32:53 | |
So, but that will connect on to yours. | 00:32:57 | |
Correct. Yep. Yep. Um. | 00:33:01 | |
Yeah, Great. Cool. OK, Well, before we finish up, Brandon has additional comments. | 00:33:06 | |
Hey so he just helped me look up some additional. | 00:33:13 | |
Information on another permit that we'd approved and the sprinkling isn't going to be an issue. So yeah, just proceed the way that | 00:33:17 | |
you have it drawn up. | 00:33:21 | |
So just but it's come up before where. | 00:33:33 | |
So I like to bring it up early because it is a big cost if we have to. | 00:33:40 | |
For sure. Thank you. One last thing that I just thought of and that is when you are moving into the construction phase, the | 00:33:43 | |
planning department is going to review that permit as well and we're going to make sure the like landscaping and elevations match | 00:33:48 | |
what is approved by the Planning Commission and if there's any. | 00:33:54 | |
Really any changes, it will have to go back through Planning Commission for approval. So just make sure that you know what is | 00:33:59 | |
being approved next week or in two weeks at Planning Commission is you know what is submitted with that building permit. | 00:34:05 | |
We can. We can work with you on like minor changes if you have to change a plant or two, but umm. | 00:34:11 | |
We've just had some issues where they paint a building bright blue when they're not supposed to. Yeah, so we just want to make | 00:34:17 | |
sure that. | 00:34:20 | |
We're not gonna have a bright blue AutoZone here. | 00:34:24 | |
Everything. | 00:34:28 | |
Let us know if you have anything. | 00:34:31 | |
Yep, great. | 00:34:41 | |
All right. I appreciate it. Thank you very much. | 00:34:46 | |
That being said, we're closing that work session out and then moving to item number three, staff, Commission and committee | 00:34:49 | |
reports. So let's start off with staff. | 00:34:54 | |
Cash. Mr. Hanson, do you have any report? | 00:34:59 | |
No, we well, I'll just say that we last night at Planning Commission the. | 00:35:03 | |
I'm already forgetting what where the Grammar Office building and the two flex buildings flex industrial buildings in East Lake | 00:35:09 | |
were both approved, so those are going to be coming for building permit. | 00:35:15 | |
And land of servants here soon. | 00:35:21 | |
I think that's pretty much it in terms of development on our side. | 00:35:25 | |
All right. Thank you very much, Mr. Patrick. James Would, is there any reports from for the works engineering? | 00:35:28 | |
Not that I know of. | 00:35:35 | |
Well, appreciate your hard working, the hard work and intelligence that the public works and engineering does. | 00:35:38 | |
So and then let's move off to Mr. Anthony Fletcher. | 00:35:44 | |
There are no reports or comments, OK, none from my side. And then. | 00:35:51 | |
Department. | 00:35:57 | |
Nothing from building, OK fire department. | 00:35:59 | |
Nothing for environment and the best of all Parks and Rec. Nothing from Parks and Rec and we do have Kinsley online. I don't know | 00:36:01 | |
if she has anything, OK. | 00:36:06 | |
Miss Kinsley. | 00:36:12 | |
Saving the best further and the last, is there anything that to report from? | 00:36:15 | |
On your side for especially for development services. | 00:36:21 | |
Oh, she's trying to speak through the click share. | 00:36:24 | |
Did you say anything, Kinsley? Sorry. | 00:36:26 | |
Kari, no, I don't have anything. Thank you. Thank you very much. And then OK, so that closes out that can we move on to #4? | 00:36:29 | |
Which is a German items. | 00:36:38 | |
There are no, I will say just as a little update, we have fallen a little behind on minutes for approval for this meeting. We've | 00:36:41 | |
just had a lot of work to do. So hopefully we'll have that in the coming weeks. They are pretty abbreviated minutes, but we do | 00:36:47 | |
need to get those approved sooner than later. So I appreciate that Okay. Well moving on to business items, no business items, I | 00:36:53 | |
expect that there would be a business item coming up in the next. | 00:37:00 | |
Few committees, which would be the bylaws, correct Anthony. | 00:37:07 | |
OK. I'm not sure if Cash has shared it with the team, but. | 00:37:14 | |
Yes. Yeah. OK. All right. | 00:37:19 | |
So I think with when we do bring that to when we do bring that up, I know that deal work your work to make sure that we have a | 00:37:23 | |
full committee. | 00:37:27 | |
On up here to to review and approve. All right, sweet. OK, with that being said. | 00:37:32 | |
The Germans what everyone's been waiting for. So I need a motion to adjourn. A motion to adjourn. I got one motion to adjourn. Do | 00:37:39 | |
I have a second? | 00:37:43 | |
OK. We got a second. Do we do this by roll call cash? I don't even think you need to do a motion, but OK, so I think that's a | 00:37:49 | |
unanimous. | 00:37:54 | |
Adjournment and this meeting has been adjourned. | 00:38:01 | |
OK, thanks. I'm going to hang up now. | 00:38:04 |
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April 2018, 2024. | 00:00:10 | |
The April 18, 2024. | 00:00:20 | |
Development Review Committee meeting. | 00:00:24 | |
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There we go. OK, so do we have to do roll call? | 00:00:34 | |
Sweet. OK, well just make a note that the. | 00:00:36 | |
Two people are that are not present today or two positions are not present today. | 00:00:44 | |
Commission City Manager and community Development director, I appreciate that. OK, so and then. Otherwise we have myself. | 00:00:50 | |
Representing public works engineering and seeing the indoor Let's just do this. Chris Johnson, would you like to call yourself in? | 00:01:00 | |
Chris Johnson Johnson Building official. | 00:01:07 | |
Brandon Valley Fire Department. | 00:01:12 | |
Preston Jensen, parks manager. | 00:01:18 | |
And we're happy to have Preston here today. And then we have Anthony. Yes, Anthony Fletcher. Plenty. There we go, sweetie. OK. | 00:01:21 | |
Well, I appreciate that though. So now that we call this call this to order. | 00:01:26 | |
We're having. | 00:01:34 | |
We have two items on our agenda, both underneath the work sessions. | 00:01:36 | |
Item 2.1 when these sites plan application and. | 00:01:40 | |
Will that be now I'm gonna be handing handling both of these site plan applications, so take a take away cash. OK, great. Let me | 00:01:46 | |
show you guys just contextual map here we have Geneva Road and then we have Muddy boys, if you're familiar with that business. | 00:01:53 | |
Just north of that lot is the proposed windy site plan. It's one of Steve Pruitt's properties. | 00:02:00 | |
So with that, here's the site. It does not have direct access off of Geneva Rd. It will have this access Rd. that will go actually | 00:02:08 | |
through like the birds property. | 00:02:13 | |
To the West. | 00:02:19 | |
That'll come up and then it'll have an entrance point right here on the Northside. This is just an exit on this side here. | 00:02:20 | |
The Pruitts are going to be working on a like a multi tenant building to the north. So that's going to be kind of the shared drive | 00:02:29 | |
access there and it might connect onto Geneva Road right there. I could be mistaken, we do have the applicants here to. | 00:02:35 | |
If they know anything, it looks like yes on that. OK. So as far as the site point goes, we've worked with them quite a bit on | 00:02:42 | |
making quite a few changes on this. | 00:02:47 | |
Originally that the drive through stacking length wasn't quite long enough and it was going beyond the parking stalls blocking | 00:02:53 | |
some of those in, so we worked with them to shift the building to the east. | 00:02:58 | |
As well as moving the dumpster enclosure to allow the the drive through to be pushed to the the West as much as possible. | 00:03:04 | |
As far as the planning department goes, they they've done a great job of addressing all of our concerns. They're they've met our | 00:03:12 | |
landscaping requirements. | 00:03:15 | |
They have our drive through stacking requirements. They will have to go through the conditional use permit as the drive through | 00:03:19 | |
does wrap the the front of the building which is Geneva Rd. | 00:03:23 | |
They have great pedestrian access here off of Geneva Rd. With the sidewalk that will connect. | 00:03:29 | |
Here, all the way across the north side of the property, all the way to. | 00:03:33 | |
The other part of Steve Pruitt's property. | 00:03:38 | |
One thing to note is there is this little piece of property right here that we're going to have to figure out. Part of the the | 00:03:42 | |
GRMU code does require that they have a 15 foot landscape buffer between or. Sorry, they're in the RMU. | 00:03:48 | |
Regardless, they have to have landscaping right here. | 00:03:55 | |
And of Steve Pruitt S going to be taking that on as the landowner. And so it is not a part of the site plan. We do need to figure | 00:03:57 | |
out how to make sure that that happens in conjunction with the site plan development, though. So we will be meeting with Steve | 00:04:02 | |
Pruitt. | 00:04:07 | |
Hopefully maybe today in the same and we can. | 00:04:12 | |
Talk about that. | 00:04:16 | |
But yeah, that's all I have. We can go through each department and I'll take notes on any comments that you guys may have. I can | 00:04:19 | |
flip through these if you guys want to see landscaping, I know. | 00:04:23 | |
You guys don't care about that as much as I do. | 00:04:28 | |
And then I do have the elevations as well, so you can see what the building looks like. | 00:04:32 | |
Cool. All right, well, let's go ahead and go through the departments, so. | 00:04:38 | |
Cash Will you like to? | 00:04:42 | |
I pretty much gave mine that we just need to figure out that landscaping on the east side. | 00:04:44 | |
I'll just get with me afterwards. | 00:04:50 | |
And I've there's some options out there. | 00:04:54 | |
All right. Patrick, would you like to? | 00:04:56 | |
Good comments for public works engineering. | 00:04:59 | |
Yeah, I think the only comments that we had it for engineering is to provide a public utility easement, 10 foot easement along the | 00:05:02 | |
east edge of the property. | 00:05:08 | |
And then when the site is fully developed or the site plans are fully developed, we'll do a full land disturbance permit and | 00:05:14 | |
technical review at that time. | 00:05:19 | |
To review utilities and. | 00:05:25 | |
And the like. | 00:05:27 | |
All right, though they believe in one item. I just want to make sure it's added up something that the. | 00:05:32 | |
With on the site plan approval for the. | 00:05:41 | |
The dumpster enclosure, something I've noticed quite a bit, as well as dumpster closed doors tend to stay open quite quite often. | 00:05:45 | |
Throughout the day and operations. | 00:05:52 | |
I'm not the person who worries about. | 00:05:57 | |
Looking at a dumpster. But typically what happens is that those doors encroach into the flow of traffic. | 00:05:59 | |
On that so. | 00:06:06 | |
On this particular plan, and I know that's another site plans, you know, the dumpster closures are placed a little bit differently | 00:06:07 | |
than the site plans. | 00:06:11 | |
So I'm sure that some of the other areas have. | 00:06:15 | |
They were at exactly the location they may have. | 00:06:17 | |
Been identified but in this one particular. | 00:06:20 | |
Where the door is open, I just wanna make sure that that doesn't encroach into the flow traffic as you egress out. | 00:06:23 | |
So would you like to see like the enclosure? | 00:06:29 | |
Pushed back to the northeast. You push it. Yeah, push it back much as possible. Sure That when the doors are fully open that they | 00:06:31 | |
don't. | 00:06:35 | |
Yeah, they don't. | 00:06:40 | |
Impede the traffic, I mean that's also. | 00:06:43 | |
I mean, it's on private property, so it turns out to be a liability issue on the property owner if there's a if there's a | 00:06:45 | |
accident. | 00:06:49 | |
On that. | 00:06:53 | |
So, but bottom line I would just say if they didn't want to have any kind of inconvenience or liabilities put against them on | 00:06:55 | |
that, so to put. | 00:06:59 | |
I'll take a review of that share on that. | 00:07:03 | |
Having run solid waste operations for. | 00:07:07 | |
Like 8 years my drivers were very. | 00:07:10 | |
Told to always close those doors. | 00:07:14 | |
As a city, we didn't want to have that liability on us. | 00:07:17 | |
So that and then sidewalk connections I saw that and cache this is probably something that be on your court on the. | 00:07:22 | |
Sidewalk connection that goes east. | 00:07:32 | |
Towards Geneva from the Wendy's as it crosses over that drive through lane. | 00:07:35 | |
Yeah, right here I got. Yeah, the question is was determining into. | 00:07:40 | |
As of right now that's we're going to have to discuss with Steve Pruitt exactly what this will look like over here. We do have | 00:07:44 | |
that the Geneva Rd. trail that will be going along the the West side of Geneva Rd. hopefully in the coming decade. | 00:07:52 | |
But we just want to ensure that all of our sites do tie into that. | 00:08:03 | |
As much as possible. And so we'll work with Steve Pruitt on that. | 00:08:07 | |
But if you look at the site the the Mr. Car Wash and the Jiffy Lube right now, they both have a very similar. | 00:08:11 | |
Sidewalk Terminus just right on the property line there, Yeah, and. | 00:08:17 | |
Forgive me for not knowing this specifically right here, but does that go into EU dot right away? | 00:08:24 | |
The sidewalk there, Yeah, I need a construction activities as well because that would have to. It shouldn't. This site plan ends | 00:08:31 | |
right on that red border. | 00:08:36 | |
Yeah, but the but the improvements itself. | 00:08:42 | |
So that would be something that we would Patrick for. | 00:08:45 | |
Us to ensure that we. | 00:08:49 | |
Require their Udot encroachment. | 00:08:51 | |
Does the sidewalk actually, will the sidewalk be built all the way out there? Because it seems like they've been just stopping at | 00:08:54 | |
the property line. Yeah. Yep. So this sidewalk will come into. | 00:09:00 | |
Construction once we work it out with Steve Crew on the landscaping. | 00:09:07 | |
That's my understanding that he's going to take on the sidewalk. I don't know if our applicant wants to. | 00:09:12 | |
Has any more insight on that? But I would assume that since Steve Pruitt is going to be doing the improvements in this section of | 00:09:18 | |
his property that he would be handling that sidewalk. | 00:09:22 | |
Yeah, yeah, you have to. You have to go up to the bank, unfortunately. | 00:09:31 | |
We have ceiling mics. | 00:09:36 | |
That'd be cool. | 00:09:38 | |
I believe you have to state your name and who you were with, right? | 00:09:44 | |
OK. And OK, that's fine. | 00:09:51 | |
Alright, sorry, yeah. | 00:09:56 | |
Yeah, With this being with you, having plans for widening expansions on this? | 00:10:05 | |
We need, we need to do our due diligence and confirm that it should. Yeah, that's fine. Just. | 00:10:12 | |
Yeah, and so I just ask send this over to. | 00:10:19 | |
Patrick can provide the UDOT office. | 00:10:24 | |
Right there, send it over to the office to say. Make sure you have your lines at this or your boundaries of the service and just | 00:10:27 | |
ask a simple question. | 00:10:30 | |
Yeah, that's. | 00:10:34 | |
And then of course. | 00:10:36 | |
I'm not sure here, but UDOT may because this happened in the past and I know it's not something for any engineering firm to | 00:10:38 | |
consider, but. | 00:10:43 | |
Patrick for it might be better for when we do our full design reviews and pre construction about access off Geneva construction | 00:10:48 | |
access off Geneva. | 00:10:53 | |
Because I would make sure that the dots are aware of that as well. | 00:10:58 | |
Because that's going to require swips and so forth. But. | 00:11:02 | |
And then of course leave a lot of, maybe inconvenience a lot of people. | 00:11:05 | |
But I think that's more. | 00:11:08 | |
Further down the road though, I think that might affect what your final designs would be any? | 00:11:11 | |
Construction entrances, if you would have to denote them. | 00:11:18 | |
On that one. | 00:11:23 | |
Cool. That's. I've got so. | 00:11:25 | |
I'll go forward with UH. | 00:11:30 | |
Oh wait, Patrick. And you said public utility easement on the east side. That's the east side of the property, The property | 00:11:33 | |
between Geneva and the. | 00:11:38 | |
Property, yeah, we've been, we've been. | 00:11:42 | |
Wanting all the businesses along there to have AP on the east side, are you talking about the landscaping strip between their | 00:11:45 | |
property in Geneva? | 00:11:49 | |
Or the word like the drive through is that. | 00:11:53 | |
I would think it would be where the drive through is at because it would need to be on. | 00:11:56 | |
This property not in EU dot right away am I? | 00:12:01 | |
Yeah, it would have to be outside there either way, because if it's if you have a Public Utilities and within there right away, | 00:12:07 | |
then you have to follow all EU dots requirements, which is not necessarily bad, it's just. | 00:12:12 | |
Every time any kind of work has to be done, you thought it has to be notified. Yeah, it's it's my understanding that the water | 00:12:17 | |
main will continue up along there. | 00:12:21 | |
To connect. | 00:12:27 | |
Farther up to the northwest corner of the Pruitt property. | 00:12:29 | |
And so we will need an easement for that, anything on the West side because I was reviewing all the easement documents yesterday | 00:12:35 | |
and there seemed to be a need for an easement on the West side to the property as well. | 00:12:41 | |
The West side has sewer and storm drain running through the absolutely. Yeah and so that this particular case and we we do have a | 00:12:48 | |
meeting with Mr. Pruitt and company later today but. | 00:12:54 | |
Just I guess for your information. And of course it'll get confirmed by the your. | 00:13:01 | |
Your client that it was easement on the West side for the sewer storm drain systems is going to be asked for by the city. | 00:13:07 | |
As well. | 00:13:16 | |
So yeah. | 00:13:17 | |
OK, well that's a. | 00:13:21 | |
That's all we have on our side. So I'll pass to Mike. How about we give it to Anthony? Do you have anything, Sir? | 00:13:22 | |
No cash that at all. | 00:13:29 | |
Thank you as usual. | 00:13:31 | |
So, Mr. Johnson, would you like to go for building? | 00:13:34 | |
Building department has no items. | 00:13:38 | |
We'll have our items when you submit for the building permit. | 00:13:40 | |
Sorry. And in regards to the items for the building permit, Patrick, you say much more eloquently than I do by bonds requirements | 00:13:46 | |
for building permits. | 00:13:50 | |
So before a building permit can be issued any any infrastructure that's not in place for the for the site. | 00:13:57 | |
Will need to be bonded for. | 00:14:07 | |
Just to ensure that that gets. | 00:14:10 | |
Done before. | 00:14:12 | |
Before the building permit. | 00:14:15 | |
That's for both public and private. | 00:14:17 | |
Is that a building permit is issued or applied for issued issue. | 00:14:19 | |
Sorry. Thank you very much. All right, let's move on to the fire department. | 00:14:25 | |
Fire department doesn't have anything. | 00:14:30 | |
And then Mr. Preston for Parks and Rec. | 00:14:33 | |
Yeah, no comment. | 00:14:37 | |
I guess, yeah, I look forward to. | 00:14:40 | |
Because we look forward to seeing the next step of this process. I can just give you a brief rundown of kind of next steps here. | 00:14:44 | |
I've compiled all comments here. I'll send them your way. I don't know if we'll need to see an updated site plan with that trash | 00:14:51 | |
enclosure scooted to the northeast, it looks like or angled in a way to kind of prevent those doors from from impeding the flow of | 00:14:58 | |
traffic. But besides that, it looks good. You should be good for Planning Commission here in two weeks. | 00:15:05 | |
It's held in this building at 6:00 PM. Once you have that approval, then you will be moving on to the building permit process and | 00:15:13 | |
the land assurance process which you'll be working with Chris and Nasim on. | 00:15:19 | |
So, and I believe for the planning for the Planning Commission, the items that we talked about with the doc coordinations and so | 00:15:24 | |
forth is not the requirement. There would be a requirement prior to. | 00:15:30 | |
Getting any kind of? | 00:15:36 | |
Permits from public works and engine. | 00:15:38 | |
And then? | 00:15:40 | |
And then maybe. | 00:15:43 | |
Mr. Eric Ash. Yeah. Do you guys have an idea on the Pruitt's timeline? | 00:16:16 | |
Sorry, Sir. Yeah, I think, I also think we should invest in like like some mobile mics. | 00:16:23 | |
Understanding. | 00:16:35 | |
He's wanting to get moving soon. He just hasn't done a site plan yet for that building to the north, which would include that | 00:16:36 | |
landscaping. The land disturbance permit should be finalized after we discussed the easement. Yeah, so the lands of servants. | 00:16:42 | |
Berman's on my desk. I have a meeting with him at 3:00. | 00:16:48 | |
But yeah, that might be a condition of approval Planning Commission is that we do figure out that landscaping. | 00:16:56 | |
Whether that is, you know before the certificate of occupancy is issued that. | 00:17:02 | |
OK, great. Yeah, I just haven't seen it yet, so. | 00:17:09 | |
OK, so he's moving. He's ahead of us. Oh, good to hear. | 00:17:12 | |
So. | 00:17:18 | |
Great. Thank you. | 00:17:24 | |
I have a bit of a correction on the bond statement. | 00:17:27 | |
So the bond would only be for public improvements. | 00:17:32 | |
From what we would discussed a few weeks ago. | 00:17:36 | |
Yeah, the the private improvements will be constructed with the building permit, so. | 00:17:43 | |
So it's only the public improvements that need to be bonded for before the building permit. Thank you. And then so with that being | 00:17:48 | |
said, one while you're doing your magic and finalizing designs. | 00:17:53 | |
Just make sure that you provide the cost breakdowns. | 00:17:59 | |
Appropriately like that. But when you get to that point, Patrick is going to be working closely with you guys as he already has. | 00:18:03 | |
All right, Sorry. All right, well, there's nothing else. Can we close this one out? Do we have to vote? Yeah, the no vote needed | 00:18:10 | |
just a work session. We don't do votes on that. | 00:18:14 | |
On work session items on. | 00:18:19 | |
Thank you very much. I appreciate you guys coming. Thank you. | 00:18:21 | |
All right. | 00:18:37 | |
So we're moving on to item 2.2. Item 2.2 is. | 00:18:41 | |
The agenda I am title is AutoZone site plan application. The presenter again is Mr. Cash Hansy. | 00:18:47 | |
And that's correct. All right. | 00:18:55 | |
So this is another site plan application. This one is located. Let me show you map here we have O'Reilly right here. Jiffy Lube, | 00:18:57 | |
Mr. Car Wash and then AutoZone will be the the constructed one lot to the north of of Mr. Car Wash. | 00:19:05 | |
Along Geneva Rd. Here it will be accessed through a Dr. aisle off of Geneva Rd. as well as that kind of frontage Rd. that goes | 00:19:14 | |
along the GRMU and the backside of it as well. So it has multiple. | 00:19:20 | |
Great, great access points. | 00:19:27 | |
As far as the building goes, it is set back pretty far along the road, but they do meet. The GRMU does have that landscaping | 00:19:29 | |
requirement for the 15 feet of landscaping set back and they've met that between this front section and this other section on the | 00:19:34 | |
other side of that drive aisle. | 00:19:39 | |
We as the planning department, we really don't have any, you know, big comments here they've, they've met our standards with | 00:19:46 | |
parking, with with landscaping. | 00:19:50 | |
So yeah, if we want to move to other departments. | 00:19:56 | |
Unless there's anything else you guys want to see with the site plan. | 00:19:59 | |
In specific. | 00:20:04 | |
No. Take a look at but. | 00:20:07 | |
Mr. Patrick James, would you like to give comments for public works and engineering? | 00:20:10 | |
Again, on this one, we would just want a 10 foot public utility easement along the east property line. | 00:20:15 | |
That's it. | 00:20:24 | |
On in the property. So there is, yeah, this landscaping strip right here, yeah. | 00:20:25 | |
Excuse me, sorry. Would you have to speak into the mic? No. Yeah, you just have to speak into the microphone for it's a | 00:20:35 | |
requirement now. | 00:20:39 | |
OK, so a 10 foot Pew, you said. | 00:20:45 | |
OK. | 00:20:54 | |
That's all you had. That's all I had was good. | 00:20:57 | |
All right. So, Mr. | 00:21:01 | |
Anthony, would you like to give any comments, Sir? | 00:21:04 | |
Thank you. I just wanted to find out from Kari if you were able to. | 00:21:09 | |
Rear end the building in the way, because I know we had a discussion way before. | 00:21:13 | |
About getting making things work in the site, were you able to get it to work? | 00:21:18 | |
And you just so you have to state your name and who you're with. | 00:21:24 | |
You'll see me a lot all the way through building permit that I'm doing. Just a site plans, landscape plans. | 00:21:34 | |
That's kind of my role in this. | 00:21:42 | |
Yeah. So you can see here that we got, we went through several iterations to kind of come up with a location of the building. | 00:21:43 | |
Zoning gave us enough parking. | 00:21:51 | |
Working with X Development, the master developer. | 00:21:54 | |
Some of their infrastructure improvements that the. | 00:21:58 | |
Stick our trash enclosure or building or anything over there in the way of anything, so yeah. | 00:22:08 | |
AutoZone is happy with this plan. We feel good about it. I think it means. | 00:22:13 | |
I don't know that it doesn't. | 00:22:17 | |
Yeah. | 00:22:21 | |
And Anthony to address that, they did make quite a few changes here. So they do have like the pedestrian crossing that does get | 00:22:24 | |
you to Geneva Road or from Geneva Road to their site. They did scoot their building pretty far to the South here. So it was only a | 00:22:31 | |
foot a little over, a foot away from their property line which the the Grme does not have side setbacks. | 00:22:39 | |
So they are within that and then they have the like employer delivery entrance here off to the the backside of the building. | 00:22:47 | |
As well as I believe there's still a roll up garage door right here on the Northside. | 00:22:55 | |
So delivery trucks can be right here, which is. | 00:23:00 | |
Out of the way from from the customers and and hopefully the flow of traffic. | 00:23:02 | |
Sorry, I appreciate that. One item on here on this in regards to the side plan. So this is the same for. | 00:23:10 | |
Part 2 for public works on stuff, and I remember saying through one meeting cash, you'll probably be the one who. | 00:23:18 | |
Corrects me on this one, but those are discussions in regard because I know this bat butts up to the. | 00:23:24 | |
Part the new parking lot for Edgewater Townhomes, was there some discussions about the pedestrian access between that parking lot | 00:23:31 | |
and this development here? So that was actually the Gru office that we thought it would, but the the pedestrians access is | 00:23:37 | |
actually pretty far north and this is on the South side of things. | 00:23:42 | |
So it shouldn't. It shouldn't be that they'll have the. | 00:23:48 | |
Umm, the fence there. OK, that's fine. I think we just make a note. We just make a note for the Planning Commission because they | 00:23:53 | |
probably had the same question. I do, Yeah. Good. I don't know. | 00:23:58 | |
OK. Just want to make sure about that and then uh. | 00:24:04 | |
Patrick again, Yuri going to be the one who corrects me on this one if I'm wrong, but on the West side that this, this our, our | 00:24:07 | |
city easement extends all the way down from here existing easement on the West side. | 00:24:14 | |
Since I believe those are all city utilities in a way. | 00:24:22 | |
Yeah, I believe it extends all the way down the West side. So and then OK, sweet. So other than that, really just the same | 00:24:25 | |
comments with the. | 00:24:29 | |
In regards to the last one, in regards to any kind of. | 00:24:34 | |
Disturbance that's going to be within the that may be within EU dot area on this particular for this particularly I know that the. | 00:24:38 | |
They have. | 00:24:46 | |
Been issued and by the city and also the DLT in regards to the railway connection for into the Geneva. | 00:24:48 | |
On excuse me. | 00:24:55 | |
And to Geneva. | 00:24:57 | |
So just get with. | 00:24:58 | |
So it's not required for the Planning Commission but to study to the intelligence. But because it does, those things do take a | 00:25:00 | |
little longer if it's if it is required. | 00:25:05 | |
To make sure that there's nothing special. | 00:25:11 | |
On the outside, if there's any kind of graduate. | 00:25:15 | |
I don't believe it will be but. | 00:25:18 | |
So ask. | 00:25:20 | |
Yeah. | 00:25:23 | |
Yeah. | 00:25:29 | |
Yeah. | 00:25:32 | |
Yeah, like I said. | 00:25:35 | |
Yeah, I would just ask. I mean just give what your master, the master developer except on that just to make sure because again | 00:25:38 | |
they they may have already covered all that stuff. So again, I hate for a project to be. | 00:25:44 | |
Shut down by the dot just because something was overlooked. | 00:25:51 | |
Yeah, I do have one last thing that came into my mind. In here. You do have a proposed monument sign. All signage will have to be | 00:25:55 | |
approved through a separate permit. So just to take note of that. | 00:26:00 | |
Now sweet. OK, well, that's all the comments that we currently have for this. And then of course is a. | 00:26:07 | |
If you were here for the previous one with Patrick talked about the bonding requirements in the case of a billing permit and of | 00:26:14 | |
course and then. | 00:26:18 | |
The umm. | 00:26:23 | |
No, I think that was. Yep, I think that was it. Anything else but let you know something skipped my mind, Okay. So with that being | 00:26:29 | |
said, Mr. Johnson, would you like to take it over for billing? | 00:26:34 | |
Building department has no no items. | 00:26:40 | |
I'll just bring one thing up. We don't plan to sprinkler the building. There's fire hydrants kind of in the area. | 00:26:45 | |
We said it. | 00:26:52 | |
Is there any issues with that with just utilizing the existing items or the proposed item? The master? | 00:26:53 | |
That was a question I wanted to bring up with our fire Marshall, but I can, I can get back to you, let us know. But right now the | 00:27:03 | |
plan is just not. | 00:27:08 | |
OK. | 00:27:17 | |
Thank you very much. So that being said, fire departments you have. | 00:27:21 | |
Anything else? That was my only question, just about the amount of. | 00:27:25 | |
Hazard class that are stored inside there just I was going to run it up and. | 00:27:29 | |
Have a quick discussion with the Fire Marshall on that one and then. | 00:27:33 | |
That's all I had. Thank you. | 00:27:38 | |
That I think they have some cheap. | 00:27:47 | |
OK. Thank you. | 00:27:55 | |
Mr. Preston. | 00:27:58 | |
Fair parks and rock, Yeah, I don't have anything. | 00:27:59 | |
Sweet. With that being said, I think that concludes all our comments. Is there anything else you would like to answer? | 00:28:03 | |
Yeah, so it is the the. | 00:28:14 | |
Yeah, you are that 4th lot. | 00:28:16 | |
Yep, Yep. So there's a requirement in the army that requires a fence to be put along. | 00:28:24 | |
The front Geneva Rd. frontage. | 00:28:29 | |
So it's a 42 inch like wrought iron fence. | 00:28:33 | |
I don't know why it's in there, but it's in there. | 00:28:36 | |
Awesome. So we look forward to seeing the fans, but we can do, we can do ribbon cutting for it. | 00:28:38 | |
Yeah, we should. | 00:28:44 | |
I I don't know if you heard kind of the tail end of our conversation with Wendy's, but the the next steps here in two weeks we | 00:28:47 | |
should be able to take this to Planning Commission for approval. And then after that you'll be working with Naseem and Chris on | 00:28:51 | |
doing a building permit and land disturbance permit to to get moving on development. Do you have a timeline of of when you're | 00:28:55 | |
wanting to to start? | 00:28:59 | |
Yeah. | 00:29:05 | |
Construction. | 00:29:06 | |
I guess. | 00:29:08 | |
I have to guess July. | 00:29:09 | |
OK. | 00:29:12 | |
Great. | 00:29:20 | |
Yeah, I mean from planning end, you know in two weeks we'll be done with you, you know, but it's. | 00:29:27 | |
Yeah, it could be hung up on, on anything. Yeah. I mean, what comes out there, infrastructure stuff. I mean, we do have there's a | 00:29:32 | |
technical review committee for when it comes to the infrastructure. A technical review committee is informal committee. It's on | 00:29:37 | |
the formal like this. | 00:29:41 | |
Where in essence you submit all this stuff and then it goes through a process. Patrick can provide more information on that | 00:29:45 | |
specifically, but it's really the same that. | 00:29:49 | |
If you work with a city before and most other cities is pretty much the same thing, but we just formalize on internal internally. | 00:29:54 | |
And what I would say is just if you have any questions in regards to infrastructure, just go ahead and reach out to us early. I | 00:30:02 | |
mean, I don't believe you have any need for oil separators here per se, so. | 00:30:08 | |
Your outside agency. | 00:30:14 | |
Coordination other than. | 00:30:17 | |
Maybe you thought, But again, this is that's a big maybe. | 00:30:19 | |
Yeah, the city provides A sewer collection. | 00:30:23 | |
And then on that end of course if. | 00:30:27 | |
If for any reason one of the questions that always comes up to that is about fees and so forth and we're we're always happy to | 00:30:33 | |
provide a cost estimate like an estimate on on that and that's always again an estimate because until something is officially | 00:30:38 | |
given to us, we can't. | 00:30:44 | |
Say officially. | 00:30:50 | |
So but with that being said there's no reason why if you if you feel that the need to posture forward just reach out to Patrick. | 00:30:52 | |
On that and we'll just Patrick we just. | 00:31:00 | |
Things like that. We just create a national site. | 00:31:03 | |
For it and nothing is official until you pay the fees. | 00:31:07 | |
You know how those. | 00:31:11 | |
It'll just be Planning Commission. | 00:31:18 | |
Yep. | 00:31:24 | |
After that money. | 00:31:25 | |
Yep. | 00:31:30 | |
You can submit for or you can kind of do them concurrently, but you'll have to have the land disturbance permit approval finished | 00:31:44 | |
first before the the building permit approval. | 00:31:50 | |
Development is planned. | 00:31:59 | |
The shared infrastructure just. | 00:32:02 | |
That access Rd. I mean is that on anyone's radar that you know of they have a land disturbance permit in for it's in review right | 00:32:05 | |
now. As far as when they're planning on starting construction, I don't know. | 00:32:11 | |
Last question for cash probably on that West side, we talked about just putting some trees to kind of buffer the AutoZone firm | 00:32:18 | |
that. | 00:32:22 | |
Yeah. | 00:32:27 | |
You a minute ago. | 00:32:29 | |
No, no this. | 00:32:35 | |
So it is required, but the parking lot themselves are actually putting in that fence. I think it'll be similar, no? Correct. | 00:32:36 | |
Yep, yeah. I think their requirement is similar to your fencing where it has to be 42 inch wrought iron fence surrounding their | 00:32:45 | |
parking lot. | 00:32:49 | |
And so that they're going to put that on their side of the property. | 00:32:53 | |
So, but that will connect on to yours. | 00:32:57 | |
Correct. Yep. Yep. Um. | 00:33:01 | |
Yeah, Great. Cool. OK, Well, before we finish up, Brandon has additional comments. | 00:33:06 | |
Hey so he just helped me look up some additional. | 00:33:13 | |
Information on another permit that we'd approved and the sprinkling isn't going to be an issue. So yeah, just proceed the way that | 00:33:17 | |
you have it drawn up. | 00:33:21 | |
So just but it's come up before where. | 00:33:33 | |
So I like to bring it up early because it is a big cost if we have to. | 00:33:40 | |
For sure. Thank you. One last thing that I just thought of and that is when you are moving into the construction phase, the | 00:33:43 | |
planning department is going to review that permit as well and we're going to make sure the like landscaping and elevations match | 00:33:48 | |
what is approved by the Planning Commission and if there's any. | 00:33:54 | |
Really any changes, it will have to go back through Planning Commission for approval. So just make sure that you know what is | 00:33:59 | |
being approved next week or in two weeks at Planning Commission is you know what is submitted with that building permit. | 00:34:05 | |
We can. We can work with you on like minor changes if you have to change a plant or two, but umm. | 00:34:11 | |
We've just had some issues where they paint a building bright blue when they're not supposed to. Yeah, so we just want to make | 00:34:17 | |
sure that. | 00:34:20 | |
We're not gonna have a bright blue AutoZone here. | 00:34:24 | |
Everything. | 00:34:28 | |
Let us know if you have anything. | 00:34:31 | |
Yep, great. | 00:34:41 | |
All right. I appreciate it. Thank you very much. | 00:34:46 | |
That being said, we're closing that work session out and then moving to item number three, staff, Commission and committee | 00:34:49 | |
reports. So let's start off with staff. | 00:34:54 | |
Cash. Mr. Hanson, do you have any report? | 00:34:59 | |
No, we well, I'll just say that we last night at Planning Commission the. | 00:35:03 | |
I'm already forgetting what where the Grammar Office building and the two flex buildings flex industrial buildings in East Lake | 00:35:09 | |
were both approved, so those are going to be coming for building permit. | 00:35:15 | |
And land of servants here soon. | 00:35:21 | |
I think that's pretty much it in terms of development on our side. | 00:35:25 | |
All right. Thank you very much, Mr. Patrick. James Would, is there any reports from for the works engineering? | 00:35:28 | |
Not that I know of. | 00:35:35 | |
Well, appreciate your hard working, the hard work and intelligence that the public works and engineering does. | 00:35:38 | |
So and then let's move off to Mr. Anthony Fletcher. | 00:35:44 | |
There are no reports or comments, OK, none from my side. And then. | 00:35:51 | |
Department. | 00:35:57 | |
Nothing from building, OK fire department. | 00:35:59 | |
Nothing for environment and the best of all Parks and Rec. Nothing from Parks and Rec and we do have Kinsley online. I don't know | 00:36:01 | |
if she has anything, OK. | 00:36:06 | |
Miss Kinsley. | 00:36:12 | |
Saving the best further and the last, is there anything that to report from? | 00:36:15 | |
On your side for especially for development services. | 00:36:21 | |
Oh, she's trying to speak through the click share. | 00:36:24 | |
Did you say anything, Kinsley? Sorry. | 00:36:26 | |
Kari, no, I don't have anything. Thank you. Thank you very much. And then OK, so that closes out that can we move on to #4? | 00:36:29 | |
Which is a German items. | 00:36:38 | |
There are no, I will say just as a little update, we have fallen a little behind on minutes for approval for this meeting. We've | 00:36:41 | |
just had a lot of work to do. So hopefully we'll have that in the coming weeks. They are pretty abbreviated minutes, but we do | 00:36:47 | |
need to get those approved sooner than later. So I appreciate that Okay. Well moving on to business items, no business items, I | 00:36:53 | |
expect that there would be a business item coming up in the next. | 00:37:00 | |
Few committees, which would be the bylaws, correct Anthony. | 00:37:07 | |
OK. I'm not sure if Cash has shared it with the team, but. | 00:37:14 | |
Yes. Yeah. OK. All right. | 00:37:19 | |
So I think with when we do bring that to when we do bring that up, I know that deal work your work to make sure that we have a | 00:37:23 | |
full committee. | 00:37:27 | |
On up here to to review and approve. All right, sweet. OK, with that being said. | 00:37:32 | |
The Germans what everyone's been waiting for. So I need a motion to adjourn. A motion to adjourn. I got one motion to adjourn. Do | 00:37:39 | |
I have a second? | 00:37:43 | |
OK. We got a second. Do we do this by roll call cash? I don't even think you need to do a motion, but OK, so I think that's a | 00:37:49 | |
unanimous. | 00:37:54 | |
Adjournment and this meeting has been adjourned. | 00:38:01 | |
OK, thanks. I'm going to hang up now. | 00:38:04 |