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CALL TO ORDER/INVOCATION/INSPIRATIONAL THOUGHT/PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE Chair Naseem Ghandour called the meeting to order at19am. Roll call went as follows: Brian Vawdrey, Eric Ellie, Naseem Ghandour, Cache Hancey filling in for Morgan Brim, Cris Johnson, and Bryce Brady filling in for Tay Gudmundson. | |
WORK SESSION No work items were submitted. | |
STAFF, COMMISSION, AND COMMITTEE REPORTS There were no reports. | |
CONSENT ITEMS No consent items were submitted. | |
BUSINESS ITEMS 1. | |
LivAway Suites- GRMU Hotel Site Plan and Conditional Use Permit Application | |
Planner Anthony Fletcher presented the site plan. He noted he shared review comments with the applicant. He introduced the applicant. Planner Fletcher provided the background for the applications. Planner Fletcher announced a recommendation to the commission to approve this use given that it does not impact surrounding properties and that they head to the landscaping requirements and adjustments. He provided highlights of the project. | |
Chair Ghandour asked him to read his comments. | |
Planner Fletcher announced his comments: update the scope to reflect the changes made, extend the lot to include motorcycle stalls, and include ADA access. Chair Ghandour asked to ensure that it meets the ADA requirements. | |
Planner Fletcher noted comments for the site plan: discover if there is any equipment that may need to be screened and reconsider the crosswalk to not cross into a parking stall. | |
Planner Fletcher added his comments for the photometric plan: follow the suggested and compliant light colors and that they needed to be angled down. | |
Chair Ghandour commented on the angle of the cross walk. He suggested a better placement and reminded that it needs to be a different material. | |
City Manager Eric Ellis recommended to have options for trucks or trailers parking for long vehicles. Planner Fletcher noted that they meet the bare minimum for landscaping. Chair Ghandour recommended landscaping instead of the additional ADA spot and to add space for those long vehicles. | |
Commissioner Bryce Brady asked what the ratio of rooms to parking spots was. The applicant, Nick Blayden with West, noted that it is listed on the site plan. Senior Planner Cache Hancey announced6 stalls. Commissioner Brady expressed concern for minimal parking. | |
Mr. Blayden noted that they stay at% occupancy. He added that there is some flexibility to find pull-through areas to address those parking concerns. Mr. Blayden asked what material for the crosswalk. Chair Ghandour noted stamped concrete. Senior Planner Hancey provided an example. | |
Senior Planner Hancey asked if there was an agreement to share parking. Mr. Blayden said no. | |
Commissioner Brady noted that there will need to be a pet relief area. Chair Ghandour introduced the tree manual. Planner Fletcher noted that they did the plans to reflect that. | |
Planner Fletcher added that the code requires one tree every feet and that there also needs to be shrubs for every feet. Senior Planner Hancey clarified those requirements. Mr. Blayden added that they are going to match whatever McDonalds does. | |
Planner Fletcher discussed his comments to update the irrigation plan. Planner Fletcher added that there will be a condition of approval for the planning commission when it comes to the landscaping. | |
Planner Fletcher discussed signage. Senior Planner Hancey asked if the elevations have shown signage and if they will require a sign standard waiver. He was concerned about the size and number of signs. Planner Fletcher noted the sizing looks great. Senior Planner Hancey added that when they review it, they could ensure that sign light will not affect the neighborhoods. | |
Chair Ghandour clarified what is being reviewed and what is not. Planner Fletcher confirmed. Senior Planner Hancey described the process with the applicant after planning commission. | |
Chair Ghandour noted that he will respond to the will serve letter. Chair Ghandour noted that a technical review cannot happen until they apply for one. He added that the applicant will need to get the utility studies done. | |
Planner Fetcher discussed the applicant’s question regarding the undeniable right to build. He added that it is not undeniable indefinitely. They will be able to go through the process but there is an expiration date to the approval. Planner Fletcher summarized the applicant’s next steps including recording the plat. | |
Chair Ghandour noted that there are historical utilities that will need an easement that will need review. Planner Fletcher added that the plat was approved during the last Development Review Committee meeting. The only issues were with taxes. | |
Senior Planner Hancey asked if the goal was still to open up by early25. Mr. Blayden noted that they are planning on starting as soon as possible. They are shooting for an opening in October or November of25. | |
Senior Planner Hancey mentioned the fire is not represented and that we should reach out to him to get fire approval. Chair Ghandour noted that this would be a part of the technical review. | |
Building Official Cris Johnson commented on the design in terms of the egress from the office on the main floor. | |
Mr. Blayden clarified the access. He added that they can meet the requirements if they need to add a door. Building Official Johnson said that they could look at that in plan review. | |
ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at51am. MINUTES CERTIFIED COMPLETE ON: Decemberth,24 CERTIFIED (NOTICED) BY: Madison Reed, Planning Technician |
So you want to start. | 00:00:01 | |
All right, this is to call into session, uh, the development review committee meeting for July client, excuse me, July 11, 2024 at | 00:00:07 | |
9:15 is now 9:19 AM on July 11th, 2024. So public notice is hereby given that the Veneer's development Review committee will hold | 00:00:14 | |
the regular rescheduled development review meeting. Umm, it's, and this is a special sessions of these calls, uh, in recognition | 00:00:21 | |
to, uh, having, uh. | 00:00:27 | |
Missed, umm, or not having the opportunity to hold the two previous development review committees, uh, due to, uh, holidays on | 00:00:35 | |
that. So moving forward on the agenda, uh, I'm sorry, we had a big call local. | 00:00:42 | |
Let's go ahead and take a roll call on this one. | 00:00:53 | |
So, umm, we'll think we'll turn off the roll call, uh, for, with, uh, Brian Waldron. Sarah, would you like to, uh, introduce | 00:00:56 | |
yourself? | 00:01:00 | |
Absolutely. My name is Brian the parchment director, uh, Eric Ellis, city manager, Nathan Glendora for the works director, city | 00:01:07 | |
engineer got shanty. I'm going in for Morgan Graham, director Chris Johnson, building officials and Bryce Brady. I'm filling in | 00:01:12 | |
for Tay Goodmans and I'm not Planning Commission. All right. Well, uh, we welcome everyone here to, uh, uh, to make it and, uh, we | 00:01:18 | |
appreciate your time. | 00:01:24 | |
So going on to number, uh, on our agenda today. | 00:01:31 | |
So we do not have any work session scheduled. | 00:01:37 | |
And we do not have umm, staff permission committee reports that. Let's just get that to the very end. All right, there we go. Uh, | 00:01:41 | |
if we do not have any consent items and we do have one business item, our business item 5.1 live away sweep GRMU hotel. Uh, so who | 00:01:49 | |
will be presenting this? Uh, I take it that is gonna be Mr. uh, Anthony. | 00:01:58 | |
The longer cord over there, Anthony. | 00:02:27 | |
Hi, good morning. So my name is Anthony and I've been reviewing this site plan since. | 00:02:44 | |
Umm, Since they showed interest in making this development happen and I would like to go through a few things, I should umm give | 00:02:53 | |
you comments with the applicants. We have the applicant here, we have UMM. | 00:03:01 | |
Neck and two other departments. I don't know the rest of the names, but umm, they will be here for umm. You know any questions | 00:03:09 | |
that you have or other comments that are probably not in the comments that I shared with them, you're welcome to just let them | 00:03:17 | |
know all concerns. So just to give a summary this project. | 00:03:25 | |
We're just going to. | 00:03:34 | |
So this project is gonna be in the is gonna propose to be in the DRM U and. | 00:03:38 | |
Where it's being located is not an authorized permitted use for a hotel or extended stay kind of use in there. So there was a need | 00:03:45 | |
for them to apply for a conditional use permit, which was also reviewed concurrently with the site plan because the requirements | 00:03:53 | |
were almost the same. So we just do that to make it easier for the applicant as well. | 00:04:00 | |
Umm upon that review, umm there will be I, you know, I re recommend, I will be recommending to the Planning Commission to umm | 00:04:08 | |
approve that use given that umm they would not you know. | 00:04:16 | |
Umm, install any, you know, facility that may affect other surrounding neighbors and also, umm, the surrounding properties and | 00:04:26 | |
also ahead to the requirements that we've given when it comes to landscaping and umm. | 00:04:34 | |
For, you know, being willing to amend the landscaping plan to match with what UDOT has in the future along the DRMU. So we want to | 00:04:43 | |
make sure that we have a, you know, landscaping plan that really will be consistent with what you will be doing along the GRVI | 00:04:51 | |
mean the Geneva Rd. | 00:04:59 | |
So, uh, just quick highlights when it comes to apart from the use that was not already permitted. | 00:05:08 | |
Umm, everything else, lot size, you know, building square footage, coverage, height. They were all in compliance. Uh, there were a | 00:05:17 | |
few comments though that I shared with them. | 00:05:22 | |
I don't wanna go through all the comments. I would rather umm, allow you to uh, ask questions if you, you have any or if also | 00:05:30 | |
allow the applicants ask how many problems do you have, umm. | 00:05:37 | |
Six major quick comments that each has about I can give it if you would like. No, go ahead. Can you read the six major columns? | 00:05:48 | |
Anything I can still change go ahead with that OK, so umm, with the scope of work, I recommend that that they update umm, the | 00:05:56 | |
scope to reflect all the changes that we have uh recommended in regards to the number of parking stalls and all that we. | 00:06:05 | |
They are meeting their requirements, the minimum requirements. Uh, they actually had one over the requirements and we lost that | 00:06:16 | |
extra spot because we made them change the location of the dumpster from where it was to another spot. I can show you in the map | 00:06:21 | |
right here. | 00:06:27 | |
In the plan. | 00:06:36 | |
So as you can see, the dumpster has been moved to this side before it was proposed to be on this side of the site. | 00:06:59 | |
And they gave us umm on the park parking count. It gave us an extra parking over there, you know, minimum requirement. But since | 00:07:11 | |
they did the Monroe, it took down. | 00:07:17 | |
Uh, that extra parking that we had to the, you know, minimum required. So they, they still need the parking, uh, requirements, | 00:07:23 | |
umm, because there was an extra space here, we recommended that they probably just make it a. | 00:07:31 | |
OK. | 00:07:41 | |
And make this side umm, you know, so they made that an ADA stall and it was not, you know, big enough to have another part | 00:07:45 | |
installed. So they just, we recommend them extending this and which they did in one of the plans I'll be showing umm to have, you | 00:07:52 | |
know, motorcycle parking. So that's where stuff like that we there's a motorcycle parking and ADA or just motorcycle parking. Yes, | 00:07:59 | |
regular motorcycle parking. No, I'm saying that. | 00:08:06 | |
All right. | 00:08:15 | |
All right. The only thing I would have real fast on that and that's for the engineers is to make sure that that ADA, uh, you know, | 00:08:18 | |
being placed there, we saw the ADA requirements to the facility because it looks like there's a right there. | 00:08:24 | |
So nothing bad would have a more handicapped thoughts, NDA thoughts, but don't want to an ADA spots that doesn't really need the | 00:08:30 | |
requirements, especially if it's not needed. Yeah, what we probably have to do here is we need to make sure because in the plan it | 00:08:37 | |
wasn't indicated. So as part of the comments that I was going to bring up today was to make sure they have any access, umm, you | 00:08:43 | |
know, at least, uh, a ramp cut here. | 00:08:50 | |
To allow them to get onto the sidewalk. | 00:08:57 | |
So that is, umm, one of the things that needs to be, umm, taken note of. So this is the landscaping plan. I'm just gonna go | 00:09:00 | |
through the, the list. So that's it with the, uh, scope of work with the five plans, uh, we wanted to know if they had any, umm. | 00:09:09 | |
Mechanical equipment that would be put out there somewhere would like to know all these things being shown on the plan well, just | 00:09:19 | |
so that we can advise on it being screened well. So according to the code every, you know, large mechanical equipment that may be | 00:09:27 | |
on the side should be adequately screened. So we have that noted as well. | 00:09:35 | |
Umm, as a comment. | 00:09:46 | |
Umm. | 00:09:51 | |
Yes, another thing that I brought up here. | 00:09:58 | |
So on the site plan they indicated, uh, crosswalks. | 00:10:09 | |
So our crosswalk was indicated here. | 00:10:28 | |
In my comments are saying that umm, it kind of cuts through one of the parking, uh, stalls, so that should be reconsidered. I'll | 00:10:31 | |
leave that to them to, umm, consider that because if, if we have that bring in striped through Spartan spot, umm, that would | 00:10:39 | |
literally mean that we're they're we're creating a blind spot for. | 00:10:47 | |
You know, pedestrians that may be walking through here, maybe in the blind spot of people that. | 00:10:56 | |
We're not back into the parking spot but have to probably back out of the spot, so if the comments were considering, I don't know | 00:11:01 | |
if they would rather want to do. | 00:11:08 | |
Cross and another cross here or something else, but having it directly in there could be an issue. | 00:11:16 | |
So that's kind of the major one. Parking was OK. Well, the photometric plan, one of the comments that I had was, which I'm gonna | 00:11:28 | |
go on to that one. | 00:11:33 | |
Umm, I have no issue with the plan. You know, the brightness of the light, everything looks good, at least on the review. The only | 00:11:45 | |
issue that I I couldn't tell from the specifications that they shared on the bulbs and the the the fixtures that were used in was | 00:11:53 | |
the kind of light, the light color and all that and our code recommends. | 00:12:00 | |
You know, blue, white. | 00:12:08 | |
It says that blue, white colors of fluorescent uh style lights are not umm. | 00:12:10 | |
Are not accepted in the city. So I just wanted to point that out. I couldn't tell from the system that they were one of those, but | 00:12:17 | |
just to remind him that those kind of lights are not umm, permitted in the city. And I also wanted to invite, I mean remind them | 00:12:23 | |
that. | 00:12:29 | |
The light fixes need to be kept like down lids because when I looked at the specifications, I mean I used the Internet to find out | 00:12:35 | |
based on the numbers given, some of them had umm adjustments where you know they could adjust upright. And umm, just wanted to | 00:12:42 | |
point out that even though some of these lights that have adjustments for it to not be down downlet, you'd always have to make | 00:12:50 | |
sure it's adjusted to be down in the upright. | 00:12:57 | |
So that's one of the major comments that I had for the for the metric plan. | 00:13:05 | |
Umm, landscaping. | 00:13:11 | |
And please feel free to jump in if you have any questions. | 00:13:14 | |
So on the landscaping. So if you want us to jump in real fast. So in regards to crosswalk, I would agree with that crosswalk. | 00:13:23 | |
Doing the crosswalk at that angle is not only going to require people to occupy 2 objects to occupy the same space at the same | 00:13:29 | |
time being a truck and a pedestrian. | 00:13:36 | |
But also it's with definitely great either blind spots or just say I would put you on a hazard. | 00:13:43 | |
Yeah, regardless, umm of uh, uh, the BA of people backing out right into the cross off. So having uh, asking umm to that chance | 00:13:52 | |
to, to cross horizontally then verbally would be the safest route. Uh, and permissions to go to the path of least resistance time | 00:13:58 | |
angle this idea. | 00:14:05 | |
Umm, now in their course, I think that identifying the crosswalk internally, I think we want to make sure that's fixed to our | 00:14:14 | |
standards of, uh, being different type of material, so forth. | 00:14:19 | |
What about umm and I know Eric hasn't had chemical just like parking and I'm talking yeah, I noticed on the I don't know if this | 00:14:24 | |
is directed Northwest ES, but. | 00:14:31 | |
Pitney said. According to this map, you have the, the parking that bust into each other with a, with a median down the center. Uh, | 00:14:38 | |
oftentimes at hotels here in Utah County, we've got plenty of construction and plenty of ATV users that, that would have trailers | 00:14:46 | |
if you go to hotels that don't have options for. | 00:14:54 | |
Connected parking stalls. You'll have a truck and trailer that'll knock out. | 00:15:03 | |
12 spots because they'll have to park straight down a line of parking stalls. So if you were to connect, look for a few options to | 00:15:09 | |
connect some of these spots or or more of those spots. Could you please point out on there so it's easier for us? | 00:15:17 | |
So the line good. Other side is McDonald's, yeah. | 00:15:27 | |
Take back my comment, but it might be a. It'll be something that that. | 00:15:34 | |
You'll probably encounter there on that side because there's no it doesn't appear that there are any parking stalls that provide | 00:15:39 | |
the ability to pull straight through with the truck and trailer. And so it quickly diminishes a lot of spots when somebody pulls | 00:15:45 | |
in and they have no other option than to just. | 00:15:51 | |
Parallel park through a bunch of spots. | 00:15:59 | |
Anyway, I retract my comments. There is no option. | 00:16:02 | |
I mean, based on the, uh, requirements for landscaping, it's. | 00:16:07 | |
You know, and if they have to break that up, they could probably break it up and have a few spots, but the requirements they just | 00:16:12 | |
bare minimum had the bare minimum. Well, that is uh, the 88 stock that's up there and maybe the next deadline. | 00:16:20 | |
And then they then they do then he could possibly do what the error suggested. Yeah, I mean, I don't want to sign this for anyone. | 00:16:30 | |
Bicycle parking down and then because let more landscape into the north and then. | 00:16:38 | |
You know ±1% I think we can make that work. I think that would be more convenient for everyone because nothing is worse than not | 00:16:48 | |
having enough parking over because you have someone besides you or someone who decides to take up 10 stops with your family. | 00:16:55 | |
That happened that that, and that happens at the UK parking, uh, frontline station sometimes too. | 00:17:03 | |
And I know I and I know what I was talking about. | 00:17:10 | |
Yeah, because when I would give my moose an alternative, was it my own teller trying to make a buck? I was, I was a good hotel | 00:17:13 | |
take up course off. | 00:17:17 | |
How many? How many hotel rooms? Are there 2 parking spots? Like what's the ratio there? | 00:17:22 | |
How many rooms are there? Hotel rooms to parking spots are there. | 00:17:28 | |
So there are I don't have to memorize. | 00:17:34 | |
Sit there on the site plan where your mouth is trying to zoom in. | 00:17:38 | |
It's good now. Yeah, right here. | 00:17:43 | |
It is. | 00:17:48 | |
Number Room 196. | 00:17:53 | |
OK, alright. You know, the only concern I have is with this being an extended stay. Uh, that umm. | 00:18:01 | |
Parking might be an issue unless they don't plan on paying you at 100% capacity. Uh, I tried to look up some of these and I, I | 00:18:10 | |
guess none of these have opened yet. You guys are opening up one in South Jordan that opens soon Umm. | 00:18:16 | |
But do you have other projects that are similar to this that you guys have done where you could talk about parking a little bit? | 00:18:25 | |
Yeah, My name is Nick Bladen with question 7, talked to a couple of guys. Yeah, we've actually this is our, we created our own | 00:18:32 | |
brand because we're trying to build building with Marriott and the big guys. So we created our own brand. We've done other | 00:18:38 | |
expansion hotels and we usually. | 00:18:44 | |
Stay around the 80% occupancy. So we're not, that's not that common. We're actually 100% occupied. Umm, but to take your parking | 00:18:51 | |
suggestion account, I think there's some flexibility, umm. | 00:18:57 | |
Oh, here we go. | 00:19:05 | |
Are you in this area here? | 00:19:12 | |
Where we can, you know, kind of play with this area and have that fall through there. | 00:19:14 | |
And your crosswalks comment and then we can straighten it out or just eliminate it at all. We're just trying to make some con | 00:19:20 | |
connectivity. I want the eliminated, but I was figuring it out. Yeah, especially because there will be a sidewalk to the South of | 00:19:26 | |
your property. Yeah. | 00:19:31 | |
Yep, OK. | 00:19:38 | |
He's good real quick that, uh. | 00:19:40 | |
What, what material would you like to see? We have it. We have a good concrete stand, concrete sand, concrete samples, stamps over | 00:19:47 | |
in front of like, uh, or over by like the movie theater and top golf and vineyards. There's some examples of it over there. Umm, | 00:19:54 | |
real quick, do you guys, I know that X development is kind of doing the road infrastructure there. Umm, is there a cross parking | 00:20:01 | |
kind of agreement between all the properties there isn't there actually I'm supposed to contain everything on our OK because. | 00:20:08 | |
The Aqua Plex store, there could be potential for that, but if there's not that agreement, no PSA is very this is your stay within | 00:20:16 | |
your boundary. So perfect. | 00:20:21 | |
Do we have any other questions please? | 00:20:34 | |
I guess real quick, uh, this doesn't need to be answered here, but in the Planning Commission, it's gonna come up is, uh, that, | 00:20:37 | |
uh, you allow that, umm, and then for your open space there, if there's any kind of space for pets, you can go. You don't need to | 00:20:42 | |
answer that here, but it's gonna, it's probably gonna come up in the Planning Commission. | 00:20:48 | |
That's fantastic. Is there, is there a pet friendly? Is there like a pet relief area? Yeah, a pet relief area. You have to go. | 00:20:57 | |
Uh, so my comment about the landscaping, so I know what I'm trying to pick up with what, uh, you know, does as long as I don't | 00:21:10 | |
just wanna make sure that, uh. | 00:21:13 | |
You know we have a tree manual. I just wanna make sure they're using the free manual. | 00:21:16 | |
We updated appliance to reflect all of that and. | 00:21:26 | |
Just going to go back to the landscaping. | 00:21:32 | |
So, uh, COVID requires that there are a lot more trees put on the side, which is does any along the road. | 00:21:36 | |
So I had to take it on the, uh, comments. We need one repair every 20 feet. So they need to provide a number of trees and in | 00:21:44 | |
between those, uh, we need 10 shops as well. I mean, we need 1010 shops for every 20, so. | 00:21:52 | |
Yeah, I mean, it's not necessarily like every 20 feet and it has to be a tree. They can decide, you know, that where those trees | 00:22:01 | |
are placed along that entire stretch, if that makes any sense. The same thing with the shrubs. As long as they get the total | 00:22:06 | |
number of shrubs along Geneva Rd. that's that's what counts. Actually, it's OK. I got, umm, McDonald's landscape plan last night. | 00:22:12 | |
We're just gonna match whatever is. Oh, perfect. | 00:22:18 | |
UMM. I also made a comment to umm remind them to update the irrigation plan. | 00:22:32 | |
To umm to be consistent with the new update that will be happening on the landscaping plan. Umm, as I did mention earlier, we're | 00:22:40 | |
coordinating with umm U dot, so you would have to, there will be a comment, I mean a condition of approval recommended to the | 00:22:46 | |
Planning Commission, umm. | 00:22:53 | |
To allow you guys be, you know, be able to accommodate any other changes along that side when it comes to updating the landscape | 00:23:03 | |
so. | 00:23:07 | |
It will not hold you up from what you have to do. You still do whatever, uh, based on the updates and comments that we have right | 00:23:12 | |
now. But if there should be any change, it should be amendable to those changes that may come up based on the plans from you guys. | 00:23:17 | |
So it doesn't look like wouldn't tell you, you know. | 00:23:23 | |
Thank you. | 00:23:29 | |
Umm, finance, I, I realize there's some signs indicated on there, uh, but there's gonna be a separate and application for finance | 00:23:34 | |
where we review the sign sizes and make sure you need all the requirements and. | 00:23:41 | |
All right, I'm not. Have you, have they proposed like on the elevations that they've shown potential financing? Have you looked in | 00:23:49 | |
to see if that what they are proposing would require a side standard waiver? Umm, in a sense now they, you know, you can't tell if | 00:23:56 | |
they're gonna have some lights in there or not. So I can't it's, it's mostly the sizing river, but it looks like it's probably OK. | 00:24:03 | |
Yeah. Si, signing a number of signs is usually what triggers that. Mm-hmm. | 00:24:11 | |
What standard waiver, But it looks like they'd probably be clear from that, yeah. | 00:24:18 | |
Yeah, when I checked that, it was pretty much like the only thing they would need is to go through that, you know, fine permit | 00:24:23 | |
the. | 00:24:27 | |
And yeah, when when we review that, we can make sure that the signage facing as water isn't going to cause any kind of nuisances | 00:24:33 | |
or anything like that. | 00:24:37 | |
Yeah. Was there anything else happening? | 00:24:43 | |
Umm, no, that's it for now. Just wanted to make a note that the, I mean, so just to confirm what the, what, what, uh, what things | 00:24:45 | |
suggest and what they're asking to be approved as a site plan only, correct. The site plan and condition use permit will be going | 00:24:53 | |
through. So I just want to make sure it's clear that the actual designs, the technical designs and so forth have not been reviewed | 00:25:00 | |
and, uh, those backups that go through that will go through a different process. So, uh, for anything about utility. | 00:25:07 | |
And connections and details and so forth have not been reviewed and not had and no comments have been made on that one. So I just | 00:25:15 | |
wanna make sure that is fully where that's if this is not, this is not a review of the technical information, just to review the | 00:25:20 | |
site plan and conditional use only. | 00:25:24 | |
Well noted. I will be sending umm, I will, I will be refining all these comments and sending an updated comments to them. So I | 00:25:32 | |
remind them that after the Planning Commission approval, we send out a letter that kind of outlines the next processes of what | 00:25:39 | |
else needs to be reviewed and approved before they can get building permit. I do know that that I believe that umm. | 00:25:45 | |
Uh, any, uh, e-mail regarding to a uh, welfare letter was sent, uh, and I have and I will be responding last. | 00:25:53 | |
I will serve the letter that was part without going for this one. Yeah, OK, so. | 00:26:02 | |
So, uh, so, So what my last comment about the technical review has not been made by the city. So the technical review has not been | 00:26:10 | |
made by state. There's no application per second overview has been done for that. Uh, so as far as you're on record now, just let | 00:26:17 | |
you know that, uh, if you would need to get your utility, uh, studies done, it's based on what, based on what we're seeing now. | 00:26:23 | |
OK, so. | 00:26:29 | |
Can I call you later? OK. | 00:26:36 | |
All right, now it's our God. | 00:26:39 | |
And, umm, the applicant asked a question about, you know, having an outright, uh. | 00:26:42 | |
I'm trying to remember the the wording you used to outright, uh, permit. | 00:26:49 | |
Just trying to find that e-mail, but they wanted to know if they have after this that has been approved in the Planning | 00:26:54 | |
Commission. They have an undeniable right to build. And I just wanted to remind you that it's not undeniable. Indefinitely. You | 00:27:01 | |
will be allowed to, you know, follow through the process to get a building permit and eventually build. But there's an expiration | 00:27:07 | |
to the approval. Just so you know, it's not. | 00:27:14 | |
A lifetime kind of approval. I just wanted to mention that in the end. | 00:27:21 | |
Umm, have a sense now that is all we have to do. You would have to, your next major process would be to record the plaque, which | 00:27:26 | |
has been a long going discussion with the applicant as well to be able to proceed with the return that application. OK. And then | 00:27:33 | |
with that, we'll, uh, we'll review that actual to look for an easement and so forth. There's been some and then, uh, let me know | 00:27:40 | |
that now that, uh, there's been some, uh. | 00:27:47 | |
Historical, uh, utilities in the area and Bangor in that the uh, city has been, uh, needing easements for. | 00:27:55 | |
As also it's just a, it's not a the way I asked is that you just want to make sure that those things are being cleaned up. So I | 00:28:03 | |
appreciate it Before we go for satellites in the box, just send that over. | 00:28:11 | |
OK. And then we we have that one approved during the last DRC meeting, the plat, yes, OK. So we're just waiting for them to | 00:28:19 | |
approve to record it right now. There was a condition though some tax issues with the title, that's the only thing. | 00:28:28 | |
Yeah, we're good. Thanks. | 00:28:38 | |
Are is it still the goal to open up by early 2025, be completed with construction and everything? Umm, 11 yeah. So we're planning | 00:28:46 | |
on starting as soon as possible. It's usually 12 to 13 months build, umm, working with X development and their agreement with | 00:28:52 | |
McDonald's. Umm, we've been kind of talking back and forth on that access right in front of us, you know, to get to accounts. So I | 00:28:58 | |
wish them for a October and November. | 00:29:05 | |
25 open up. | 00:29:11 | |
OK, great. And then McDonald's open up right as soon as we are. So, yeah. | 00:29:13 | |
Well, do we have any more questions or comments please? | 00:29:23 | |
Fine. Do you have any questions? | 00:29:28 | |
Uh, Eric, Sir, uh, Kash, I do just want to mention that, uh, Brandon with Aaron Firesmot here and we should make sure that we | 00:29:30 | |
reach out to him to make sure that any kind of fire safety and access is, is acknowledged. You know, that's good point. And, uh, | 00:29:37 | |
we'll make sure that that's part of the technical review, uh, approval and so forth. So. | 00:29:44 | |
It comes to the side plans that there has been kind of minor modifications due to fire and safety access. That's that's typically | 00:29:51 | |
just an administrative, administrative review acceptance on that one. | 00:29:57 | |
Alright. I do have a comment on the design, not really the site plan or the conditional use, just the EPS from the office on the | 00:30:05 | |
main floor going through the registration area, it's hard to tell if there's access on the registration any to the lobby. We don't | 00:30:11 | |
want the egress office to the breakdown. | 00:30:17 | |
It's on page 11 I think. | 00:30:28 | |
Page 11. | 00:30:32 | |
I. | 00:30:59 | |
Talking right, Yeah, Yeah. | 00:31:07 | |
Productivity from the restitution area to the lucky area. | 00:31:12 | |
There. | 00:31:17 | |
There's a door here. | 00:31:29 | |
Around back for staff laundry break room. So they need to go through the office registration break room and out hallway. If, if, | 00:31:32 | |
if you're requiring a door straight to the office, you can meet whatever requirements you can do. So yeah, we we can look at that. | 00:31:40 | |
All right, with that being said, umm. | 00:31:58 | |
OK, ah. | 00:32:01 | |
So there was a comment I guess. Is there anything else that I would like to talk about or the time before we go to building? | 00:32:04 | |
Whatever so. | 00:32:16 | |
Thanks. Thanks, Mr. | 00:32:18 | |
Your assistant board chair, That's right, that's right. There we go so. | 00:32:22 | |
All right, with that being said, uh, is it no one else has any comments, uh, to our assistant, uh, fortune. | 00:32:30 | |
Thank you. Thank you. | 00:32:40 | |
I'll make you one. | 00:32:50 | |
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All right, this is to call into session, uh, the development review committee meeting for July client, excuse me, July 11, 2024 at | 00:00:07 | |
9:15 is now 9:19 AM on July 11th, 2024. So public notice is hereby given that the Veneer's development Review committee will hold | 00:00:14 | |
the regular rescheduled development review meeting. Umm, it's, and this is a special sessions of these calls, uh, in recognition | 00:00:21 | |
to, uh, having, uh. | 00:00:27 | |
Missed, umm, or not having the opportunity to hold the two previous development review committees, uh, due to, uh, holidays on | 00:00:35 | |
that. So moving forward on the agenda, uh, I'm sorry, we had a big call local. | 00:00:42 | |
Let's go ahead and take a roll call on this one. | 00:00:53 | |
So, umm, we'll think we'll turn off the roll call, uh, for, with, uh, Brian Waldron. Sarah, would you like to, uh, introduce | 00:00:56 | |
yourself? | 00:01:00 | |
Absolutely. My name is Brian the parchment director, uh, Eric Ellis, city manager, Nathan Glendora for the works director, city | 00:01:07 | |
engineer got shanty. I'm going in for Morgan Graham, director Chris Johnson, building officials and Bryce Brady. I'm filling in | 00:01:12 | |
for Tay Goodmans and I'm not Planning Commission. All right. Well, uh, we welcome everyone here to, uh, uh, to make it and, uh, we | 00:01:18 | |
appreciate your time. | 00:01:24 | |
So going on to number, uh, on our agenda today. | 00:01:31 | |
So we do not have any work session scheduled. | 00:01:37 | |
And we do not have umm, staff permission committee reports that. Let's just get that to the very end. All right, there we go. Uh, | 00:01:41 | |
if we do not have any consent items and we do have one business item, our business item 5.1 live away sweep GRMU hotel. Uh, so who | 00:01:49 | |
will be presenting this? Uh, I take it that is gonna be Mr. uh, Anthony. | 00:01:58 | |
The longer cord over there, Anthony. | 00:02:27 | |
Hi, good morning. So my name is Anthony and I've been reviewing this site plan since. | 00:02:44 | |
Umm, Since they showed interest in making this development happen and I would like to go through a few things, I should umm give | 00:02:53 | |
you comments with the applicants. We have the applicant here, we have UMM. | 00:03:01 | |
Neck and two other departments. I don't know the rest of the names, but umm, they will be here for umm. You know any questions | 00:03:09 | |
that you have or other comments that are probably not in the comments that I shared with them, you're welcome to just let them | 00:03:17 | |
know all concerns. So just to give a summary this project. | 00:03:25 | |
We're just going to. | 00:03:34 | |
So this project is gonna be in the is gonna propose to be in the DRM U and. | 00:03:38 | |
Where it's being located is not an authorized permitted use for a hotel or extended stay kind of use in there. So there was a need | 00:03:45 | |
for them to apply for a conditional use permit, which was also reviewed concurrently with the site plan because the requirements | 00:03:53 | |
were almost the same. So we just do that to make it easier for the applicant as well. | 00:04:00 | |
Umm upon that review, umm there will be I, you know, I re recommend, I will be recommending to the Planning Commission to umm | 00:04:08 | |
approve that use given that umm they would not you know. | 00:04:16 | |
Umm, install any, you know, facility that may affect other surrounding neighbors and also, umm, the surrounding properties and | 00:04:26 | |
also ahead to the requirements that we've given when it comes to landscaping and umm. | 00:04:34 | |
For, you know, being willing to amend the landscaping plan to match with what UDOT has in the future along the DRMU. So we want to | 00:04:43 | |
make sure that we have a, you know, landscaping plan that really will be consistent with what you will be doing along the GRVI | 00:04:51 | |
mean the Geneva Rd. | 00:04:59 | |
So, uh, just quick highlights when it comes to apart from the use that was not already permitted. | 00:05:08 | |
Umm, everything else, lot size, you know, building square footage, coverage, height. They were all in compliance. Uh, there were a | 00:05:17 | |
few comments though that I shared with them. | 00:05:22 | |
I don't wanna go through all the comments. I would rather umm, allow you to uh, ask questions if you, you have any or if also | 00:05:30 | |
allow the applicants ask how many problems do you have, umm. | 00:05:37 | |
Six major quick comments that each has about I can give it if you would like. No, go ahead. Can you read the six major columns? | 00:05:48 | |
Anything I can still change go ahead with that OK, so umm, with the scope of work, I recommend that that they update umm, the | 00:05:56 | |
scope to reflect all the changes that we have uh recommended in regards to the number of parking stalls and all that we. | 00:06:05 | |
They are meeting their requirements, the minimum requirements. Uh, they actually had one over the requirements and we lost that | 00:06:16 | |
extra spot because we made them change the location of the dumpster from where it was to another spot. I can show you in the map | 00:06:21 | |
right here. | 00:06:27 | |
In the plan. | 00:06:36 | |
So as you can see, the dumpster has been moved to this side before it was proposed to be on this side of the site. | 00:06:59 | |
And they gave us umm on the park parking count. It gave us an extra parking over there, you know, minimum requirement. But since | 00:07:11 | |
they did the Monroe, it took down. | 00:07:17 | |
Uh, that extra parking that we had to the, you know, minimum required. So they, they still need the parking, uh, requirements, | 00:07:23 | |
umm, because there was an extra space here, we recommended that they probably just make it a. | 00:07:31 | |
OK. | 00:07:41 | |
And make this side umm, you know, so they made that an ADA stall and it was not, you know, big enough to have another part | 00:07:45 | |
installed. So they just, we recommend them extending this and which they did in one of the plans I'll be showing umm to have, you | 00:07:52 | |
know, motorcycle parking. So that's where stuff like that we there's a motorcycle parking and ADA or just motorcycle parking. Yes, | 00:07:59 | |
regular motorcycle parking. No, I'm saying that. | 00:08:06 | |
All right. | 00:08:15 | |
All right. The only thing I would have real fast on that and that's for the engineers is to make sure that that ADA, uh, you know, | 00:08:18 | |
being placed there, we saw the ADA requirements to the facility because it looks like there's a right there. | 00:08:24 | |
So nothing bad would have a more handicapped thoughts, NDA thoughts, but don't want to an ADA spots that doesn't really need the | 00:08:30 | |
requirements, especially if it's not needed. Yeah, what we probably have to do here is we need to make sure because in the plan it | 00:08:37 | |
wasn't indicated. So as part of the comments that I was going to bring up today was to make sure they have any access, umm, you | 00:08:43 | |
know, at least, uh, a ramp cut here. | 00:08:50 | |
To allow them to get onto the sidewalk. | 00:08:57 | |
So that is, umm, one of the things that needs to be, umm, taken note of. So this is the landscaping plan. I'm just gonna go | 00:09:00 | |
through the, the list. So that's it with the, uh, scope of work with the five plans, uh, we wanted to know if they had any, umm. | 00:09:09 | |
Mechanical equipment that would be put out there somewhere would like to know all these things being shown on the plan well, just | 00:09:19 | |
so that we can advise on it being screened well. So according to the code every, you know, large mechanical equipment that may be | 00:09:27 | |
on the side should be adequately screened. So we have that noted as well. | 00:09:35 | |
Umm, as a comment. | 00:09:46 | |
Umm. | 00:09:51 | |
Yes, another thing that I brought up here. | 00:09:58 | |
So on the site plan they indicated, uh, crosswalks. | 00:10:09 | |
So our crosswalk was indicated here. | 00:10:28 | |
In my comments are saying that umm, it kind of cuts through one of the parking, uh, stalls, so that should be reconsidered. I'll | 00:10:31 | |
leave that to them to, umm, consider that because if, if we have that bring in striped through Spartan spot, umm, that would | 00:10:39 | |
literally mean that we're they're we're creating a blind spot for. | 00:10:47 | |
You know, pedestrians that may be walking through here, maybe in the blind spot of people that. | 00:10:56 | |
We're not back into the parking spot but have to probably back out of the spot, so if the comments were considering, I don't know | 00:11:01 | |
if they would rather want to do. | 00:11:08 | |
Cross and another cross here or something else, but having it directly in there could be an issue. | 00:11:16 | |
So that's kind of the major one. Parking was OK. Well, the photometric plan, one of the comments that I had was, which I'm gonna | 00:11:28 | |
go on to that one. | 00:11:33 | |
Umm, I have no issue with the plan. You know, the brightness of the light, everything looks good, at least on the review. The only | 00:11:45 | |
issue that I I couldn't tell from the specifications that they shared on the bulbs and the the the fixtures that were used in was | 00:11:53 | |
the kind of light, the light color and all that and our code recommends. | 00:12:00 | |
You know, blue, white. | 00:12:08 | |
It says that blue, white colors of fluorescent uh style lights are not umm. | 00:12:10 | |
Are not accepted in the city. So I just wanted to point that out. I couldn't tell from the system that they were one of those, but | 00:12:17 | |
just to remind him that those kind of lights are not umm, permitted in the city. And I also wanted to invite, I mean remind them | 00:12:23 | |
that. | 00:12:29 | |
The light fixes need to be kept like down lids because when I looked at the specifications, I mean I used the Internet to find out | 00:12:35 | |
based on the numbers given, some of them had umm adjustments where you know they could adjust upright. And umm, just wanted to | 00:12:42 | |
point out that even though some of these lights that have adjustments for it to not be down downlet, you'd always have to make | 00:12:50 | |
sure it's adjusted to be down in the upright. | 00:12:57 | |
So that's one of the major comments that I had for the for the metric plan. | 00:13:05 | |
Umm, landscaping. | 00:13:11 | |
And please feel free to jump in if you have any questions. | 00:13:14 | |
So on the landscaping. So if you want us to jump in real fast. So in regards to crosswalk, I would agree with that crosswalk. | 00:13:23 | |
Doing the crosswalk at that angle is not only going to require people to occupy 2 objects to occupy the same space at the same | 00:13:29 | |
time being a truck and a pedestrian. | 00:13:36 | |
But also it's with definitely great either blind spots or just say I would put you on a hazard. | 00:13:43 | |
Yeah, regardless, umm of uh, uh, the BA of people backing out right into the cross off. So having uh, asking umm to that chance | 00:13:52 | |
to, to cross horizontally then verbally would be the safest route. Uh, and permissions to go to the path of least resistance time | 00:13:58 | |
angle this idea. | 00:14:05 | |
Umm, now in their course, I think that identifying the crosswalk internally, I think we want to make sure that's fixed to our | 00:14:14 | |
standards of, uh, being different type of material, so forth. | 00:14:19 | |
What about umm and I know Eric hasn't had chemical just like parking and I'm talking yeah, I noticed on the I don't know if this | 00:14:24 | |
is directed Northwest ES, but. | 00:14:31 | |
Pitney said. According to this map, you have the, the parking that bust into each other with a, with a median down the center. Uh, | 00:14:38 | |
oftentimes at hotels here in Utah County, we've got plenty of construction and plenty of ATV users that, that would have trailers | 00:14:46 | |
if you go to hotels that don't have options for. | 00:14:54 | |
Connected parking stalls. You'll have a truck and trailer that'll knock out. | 00:15:03 | |
12 spots because they'll have to park straight down a line of parking stalls. So if you were to connect, look for a few options to | 00:15:09 | |
connect some of these spots or or more of those spots. Could you please point out on there so it's easier for us? | 00:15:17 | |
So the line good. Other side is McDonald's, yeah. | 00:15:27 | |
Take back my comment, but it might be a. It'll be something that that. | 00:15:34 | |
You'll probably encounter there on that side because there's no it doesn't appear that there are any parking stalls that provide | 00:15:39 | |
the ability to pull straight through with the truck and trailer. And so it quickly diminishes a lot of spots when somebody pulls | 00:15:45 | |
in and they have no other option than to just. | 00:15:51 | |
Parallel park through a bunch of spots. | 00:15:59 | |
Anyway, I retract my comments. There is no option. | 00:16:02 | |
I mean, based on the, uh, requirements for landscaping, it's. | 00:16:07 | |
You know, and if they have to break that up, they could probably break it up and have a few spots, but the requirements they just | 00:16:12 | |
bare minimum had the bare minimum. Well, that is uh, the 88 stock that's up there and maybe the next deadline. | 00:16:20 | |
And then they then they do then he could possibly do what the error suggested. Yeah, I mean, I don't want to sign this for anyone. | 00:16:30 | |
Bicycle parking down and then because let more landscape into the north and then. | 00:16:38 | |
You know ±1% I think we can make that work. I think that would be more convenient for everyone because nothing is worse than not | 00:16:48 | |
having enough parking over because you have someone besides you or someone who decides to take up 10 stops with your family. | 00:16:55 | |
That happened that that, and that happens at the UK parking, uh, frontline station sometimes too. | 00:17:03 | |
And I know I and I know what I was talking about. | 00:17:10 | |
Yeah, because when I would give my moose an alternative, was it my own teller trying to make a buck? I was, I was a good hotel | 00:17:13 | |
take up course off. | 00:17:17 | |
How many? How many hotel rooms? Are there 2 parking spots? Like what's the ratio there? | 00:17:22 | |
How many rooms are there? Hotel rooms to parking spots are there. | 00:17:28 | |
So there are I don't have to memorize. | 00:17:34 | |
Sit there on the site plan where your mouth is trying to zoom in. | 00:17:38 | |
It's good now. Yeah, right here. | 00:17:43 | |
It is. | 00:17:48 | |
Number Room 196. | 00:17:53 | |
OK, alright. You know, the only concern I have is with this being an extended stay. Uh, that umm. | 00:18:01 | |
Parking might be an issue unless they don't plan on paying you at 100% capacity. Uh, I tried to look up some of these and I, I | 00:18:10 | |
guess none of these have opened yet. You guys are opening up one in South Jordan that opens soon Umm. | 00:18:16 | |
But do you have other projects that are similar to this that you guys have done where you could talk about parking a little bit? | 00:18:25 | |
Yeah, My name is Nick Bladen with question 7, talked to a couple of guys. Yeah, we've actually this is our, we created our own | 00:18:32 | |
brand because we're trying to build building with Marriott and the big guys. So we created our own brand. We've done other | 00:18:38 | |
expansion hotels and we usually. | 00:18:44 | |
Stay around the 80% occupancy. So we're not, that's not that common. We're actually 100% occupied. Umm, but to take your parking | 00:18:51 | |
suggestion account, I think there's some flexibility, umm. | 00:18:57 | |
Oh, here we go. | 00:19:05 | |
Are you in this area here? | 00:19:12 | |
Where we can, you know, kind of play with this area and have that fall through there. | 00:19:14 | |
And your crosswalks comment and then we can straighten it out or just eliminate it at all. We're just trying to make some con | 00:19:20 | |
connectivity. I want the eliminated, but I was figuring it out. Yeah, especially because there will be a sidewalk to the South of | 00:19:26 | |
your property. Yeah. | 00:19:31 | |
Yep, OK. | 00:19:38 | |
He's good real quick that, uh. | 00:19:40 | |
What, what material would you like to see? We have it. We have a good concrete stand, concrete sand, concrete samples, stamps over | 00:19:47 | |
in front of like, uh, or over by like the movie theater and top golf and vineyards. There's some examples of it over there. Umm, | 00:19:54 | |
real quick, do you guys, I know that X development is kind of doing the road infrastructure there. Umm, is there a cross parking | 00:20:01 | |
kind of agreement between all the properties there isn't there actually I'm supposed to contain everything on our OK because. | 00:20:08 | |
The Aqua Plex store, there could be potential for that, but if there's not that agreement, no PSA is very this is your stay within | 00:20:16 | |
your boundary. So perfect. | 00:20:21 | |
Do we have any other questions please? | 00:20:34 | |
I guess real quick, uh, this doesn't need to be answered here, but in the Planning Commission, it's gonna come up is, uh, that, | 00:20:37 | |
uh, you allow that, umm, and then for your open space there, if there's any kind of space for pets, you can go. You don't need to | 00:20:42 | |
answer that here, but it's gonna, it's probably gonna come up in the Planning Commission. | 00:20:48 | |
That's fantastic. Is there, is there a pet friendly? Is there like a pet relief area? Yeah, a pet relief area. You have to go. | 00:20:57 | |
Uh, so my comment about the landscaping, so I know what I'm trying to pick up with what, uh, you know, does as long as I don't | 00:21:10 | |
just wanna make sure that, uh. | 00:21:13 | |
You know we have a tree manual. I just wanna make sure they're using the free manual. | 00:21:16 | |
We updated appliance to reflect all of that and. | 00:21:26 | |
Just going to go back to the landscaping. | 00:21:32 | |
So, uh, COVID requires that there are a lot more trees put on the side, which is does any along the road. | 00:21:36 | |
So I had to take it on the, uh, comments. We need one repair every 20 feet. So they need to provide a number of trees and in | 00:21:44 | |
between those, uh, we need 10 shops as well. I mean, we need 1010 shops for every 20, so. | 00:21:52 | |
Yeah, I mean, it's not necessarily like every 20 feet and it has to be a tree. They can decide, you know, that where those trees | 00:22:01 | |
are placed along that entire stretch, if that makes any sense. The same thing with the shrubs. As long as they get the total | 00:22:06 | |
number of shrubs along Geneva Rd. that's that's what counts. Actually, it's OK. I got, umm, McDonald's landscape plan last night. | 00:22:12 | |
We're just gonna match whatever is. Oh, perfect. | 00:22:18 | |
UMM. I also made a comment to umm remind them to update the irrigation plan. | 00:22:32 | |
To umm to be consistent with the new update that will be happening on the landscaping plan. Umm, as I did mention earlier, we're | 00:22:40 | |
coordinating with umm U dot, so you would have to, there will be a comment, I mean a condition of approval recommended to the | 00:22:46 | |
Planning Commission, umm. | 00:22:53 | |
To allow you guys be, you know, be able to accommodate any other changes along that side when it comes to updating the landscape | 00:23:03 | |
so. | 00:23:07 | |
It will not hold you up from what you have to do. You still do whatever, uh, based on the updates and comments that we have right | 00:23:12 | |
now. But if there should be any change, it should be amendable to those changes that may come up based on the plans from you guys. | 00:23:17 | |
So it doesn't look like wouldn't tell you, you know. | 00:23:23 | |
Thank you. | 00:23:29 | |
Umm, finance, I, I realize there's some signs indicated on there, uh, but there's gonna be a separate and application for finance | 00:23:34 | |
where we review the sign sizes and make sure you need all the requirements and. | 00:23:41 | |
All right, I'm not. Have you, have they proposed like on the elevations that they've shown potential financing? Have you looked in | 00:23:49 | |
to see if that what they are proposing would require a side standard waiver? Umm, in a sense now they, you know, you can't tell if | 00:23:56 | |
they're gonna have some lights in there or not. So I can't it's, it's mostly the sizing river, but it looks like it's probably OK. | 00:24:03 | |
Yeah. Si, signing a number of signs is usually what triggers that. Mm-hmm. | 00:24:11 | |
What standard waiver, But it looks like they'd probably be clear from that, yeah. | 00:24:18 | |
Yeah, when I checked that, it was pretty much like the only thing they would need is to go through that, you know, fine permit | 00:24:23 | |
the. | 00:24:27 | |
And yeah, when when we review that, we can make sure that the signage facing as water isn't going to cause any kind of nuisances | 00:24:33 | |
or anything like that. | 00:24:37 | |
Yeah. Was there anything else happening? | 00:24:43 | |
Umm, no, that's it for now. Just wanted to make a note that the, I mean, so just to confirm what the, what, what, uh, what things | 00:24:45 | |
suggest and what they're asking to be approved as a site plan only, correct. The site plan and condition use permit will be going | 00:24:53 | |
through. So I just want to make sure it's clear that the actual designs, the technical designs and so forth have not been reviewed | 00:25:00 | |
and, uh, those backups that go through that will go through a different process. So, uh, for anything about utility. | 00:25:07 | |
And connections and details and so forth have not been reviewed and not had and no comments have been made on that one. So I just | 00:25:15 | |
wanna make sure that is fully where that's if this is not, this is not a review of the technical information, just to review the | 00:25:20 | |
site plan and conditional use only. | 00:25:24 | |
Well noted. I will be sending umm, I will, I will be refining all these comments and sending an updated comments to them. So I | 00:25:32 | |
remind them that after the Planning Commission approval, we send out a letter that kind of outlines the next processes of what | 00:25:39 | |
else needs to be reviewed and approved before they can get building permit. I do know that that I believe that umm. | 00:25:45 | |
Uh, any, uh, e-mail regarding to a uh, welfare letter was sent, uh, and I have and I will be responding last. | 00:25:53 | |
I will serve the letter that was part without going for this one. Yeah, OK, so. | 00:26:02 | |
So, uh, so, So what my last comment about the technical review has not been made by the city. So the technical review has not been | 00:26:10 | |
made by state. There's no application per second overview has been done for that. Uh, so as far as you're on record now, just let | 00:26:17 | |
you know that, uh, if you would need to get your utility, uh, studies done, it's based on what, based on what we're seeing now. | 00:26:23 | |
OK, so. | 00:26:29 | |
Can I call you later? OK. | 00:26:36 | |
All right, now it's our God. | 00:26:39 | |
And, umm, the applicant asked a question about, you know, having an outright, uh. | 00:26:42 | |
I'm trying to remember the the wording you used to outright, uh, permit. | 00:26:49 | |
Just trying to find that e-mail, but they wanted to know if they have after this that has been approved in the Planning | 00:26:54 | |
Commission. They have an undeniable right to build. And I just wanted to remind you that it's not undeniable. Indefinitely. You | 00:27:01 | |
will be allowed to, you know, follow through the process to get a building permit and eventually build. But there's an expiration | 00:27:07 | |
to the approval. Just so you know, it's not. | 00:27:14 | |
A lifetime kind of approval. I just wanted to mention that in the end. | 00:27:21 | |
Umm, have a sense now that is all we have to do. You would have to, your next major process would be to record the plaque, which | 00:27:26 | |
has been a long going discussion with the applicant as well to be able to proceed with the return that application. OK. And then | 00:27:33 | |
with that, we'll, uh, we'll review that actual to look for an easement and so forth. There's been some and then, uh, let me know | 00:27:40 | |
that now that, uh, there's been some, uh. | 00:27:47 | |
Historical, uh, utilities in the area and Bangor in that the uh, city has been, uh, needing easements for. | 00:27:55 | |
As also it's just a, it's not a the way I asked is that you just want to make sure that those things are being cleaned up. So I | 00:28:03 | |
appreciate it Before we go for satellites in the box, just send that over. | 00:28:11 | |
OK. And then we we have that one approved during the last DRC meeting, the plat, yes, OK. So we're just waiting for them to | 00:28:19 | |
approve to record it right now. There was a condition though some tax issues with the title, that's the only thing. | 00:28:28 | |
Yeah, we're good. Thanks. | 00:28:38 | |
Are is it still the goal to open up by early 2025, be completed with construction and everything? Umm, 11 yeah. So we're planning | 00:28:46 | |
on starting as soon as possible. It's usually 12 to 13 months build, umm, working with X development and their agreement with | 00:28:52 | |
McDonald's. Umm, we've been kind of talking back and forth on that access right in front of us, you know, to get to accounts. So I | 00:28:58 | |
wish them for a October and November. | 00:29:05 | |
25 open up. | 00:29:11 | |
OK, great. And then McDonald's open up right as soon as we are. So, yeah. | 00:29:13 | |
Well, do we have any more questions or comments please? | 00:29:23 | |
Fine. Do you have any questions? | 00:29:28 | |
Uh, Eric, Sir, uh, Kash, I do just want to mention that, uh, Brandon with Aaron Firesmot here and we should make sure that we | 00:29:30 | |
reach out to him to make sure that any kind of fire safety and access is, is acknowledged. You know, that's good point. And, uh, | 00:29:37 | |
we'll make sure that that's part of the technical review, uh, approval and so forth. So. | 00:29:44 | |
It comes to the side plans that there has been kind of minor modifications due to fire and safety access. That's that's typically | 00:29:51 | |
just an administrative, administrative review acceptance on that one. | 00:29:57 | |
Alright. I do have a comment on the design, not really the site plan or the conditional use, just the EPS from the office on the | 00:30:05 | |
main floor going through the registration area, it's hard to tell if there's access on the registration any to the lobby. We don't | 00:30:11 | |
want the egress office to the breakdown. | 00:30:17 | |
It's on page 11 I think. | 00:30:28 | |
Page 11. | 00:30:32 | |
I. | 00:30:59 | |
Talking right, Yeah, Yeah. | 00:31:07 | |
Productivity from the restitution area to the lucky area. | 00:31:12 | |
There. | 00:31:17 | |
There's a door here. | 00:31:29 | |
Around back for staff laundry break room. So they need to go through the office registration break room and out hallway. If, if, | 00:31:32 | |
if you're requiring a door straight to the office, you can meet whatever requirements you can do. So yeah, we we can look at that. | 00:31:40 | |
All right, with that being said, umm. | 00:31:58 | |
OK, ah. | 00:32:01 | |
So there was a comment I guess. Is there anything else that I would like to talk about or the time before we go to building? | 00:32:04 | |
Whatever so. | 00:32:16 | |
Thanks. Thanks, Mr. | 00:32:18 | |
Your assistant board chair, That's right, that's right. There we go so. | 00:32:22 | |
All right, with that being said, uh, is it no one else has any comments, uh, to our assistant, uh, fortune. | 00:32:30 | |
Thank you. Thank you. | 00:32:40 | |
I'll make you one. | 00:32:50 | |
Now, uh. | 00:32:54 |