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  • Chair Naseem Ghandour called the meeting to order at05am.   Chair Ghandour prompted roll call.
  • Business Items  1
  • The Cottonwoods PhaseAmended Plat (Fire Station Site Lot Consolidation)   Chair Ghandour introduced the business item and noted that Mike Olsen with Aimtec Group is requesting approval of the Cottonwoods PhaseAmended Plat.
  • Senior Planner Cache Hancey presented the Cottonwoods PhasePlat.   Chair Ghandour asked if there are any questions or comments.
  • Assistant City Engineer Patrick James noted that they had comments that haven’t been submitted regarding an easement.   Senior Planner Hancey announced that it was an easement.
  • Engineer James included that the easement needed to be described for the two street sides and that the lot needs an address associated with it.   Senior Planner Hancey asked if this would hold up recordation.
  • Chair Ghandour said that the easement would need to be adjusted.   Senior Planner Hancey responded in saying that he will relay those comments back to the applicant.
  • Motion: CITY MANAGER ERIC ELLIS MOTIONED TO APPROVE WITH THE CLEANED EASEMENT AND ADDRESS ADJUSTMENT AT10AM. SENIOR PLANNER HANCEY SECONDED THE MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR: GHANDOUR, HANCEY, ELLIS, JOHNSON, VALLEY, AND VAWDREY.
  • Work Session    1  Vineyard City Fire Station - Site Plan
  • Senior Planner Hancey presented the plat for the fire station. He introduced the plat and details including the garage, doors, and materials. Senior Planner Hancey noted that we are not requesting approval and that the fire station will proceed through process and that it will be reviewed in Planning Commission.
  • Plans Examiner Patricia Abdullah asked about the details and layout for the garage.   Conversation commenced about units above the garage.   Deputy Fire Marshall Brandon Valley introduced Chief Hurst who has a lot of information.
  • Chief Hurst responded in saying there are no sleeping quarters in the building.   Chair Ghandour provided clarification.   Senior Planner Hancey announced that they will review these concerns.
  • Senior Planner Hancey reviewed the process moving forward with this project.   Chair Ghandour discussed the need for review on transportation infrastructure.   Discussion ensued.   2.
  • Utah City BlockC - Site Plan
  • Senior Planner Hancey announced that this project is missing many items in their application and this will not be seen at the next Planning Commission meeting.  3.Utah City Block(Bella's Market) - Site Plan
  • Planner Anthony Fletcher introduced the grocery store and noted some components that are missing.   Chair Ghandour asked that if the application was not completed, could it continue to the Planning Commission meeting?   Senior Planner Hancey noted that as it is introduced as a work session, they can still be working on the application. The planning department is not looking for approval.
  • Planner Fletcher continued the presentation of the grocery store. He noted the need for a title report. He discussed landscaping regarding the missing components. The block was not subdivided. Planner Fletcher noted the plan for parking, but that it is not indicated.   Senior Planner Hancey asked for clarification on where the parking will be included and if they are accounting for other blocks.   Planner Fletcher responded in saying that they are implementing it with the site plan. They are planning to have this as service parking.   Senior Planner Hancey requested that the applicant clarified this.   Planner Hancey assured that it is a part of the comments for the applicant.
  • Chair Ghandour mentioned that engineering would need to see the fully designed parking lot. These can be reviewed at the technical review.   Planner Fletcher noted there is no scope of work and other missing components. Taxation was discussed.
  • Senior Planner Hancey asked about what the parts that will be developed later will look like for the time being.   Parks and Recreation Director Brian Vawdrey asked about those other developments.   Senior Planner Hancey responded in saying that it is pretty open but it could be retail or mixed use. Senior Planner Hancey asked about the build of the smaller buildings.   Building Official Cris Johnson provided clarification in what parts of this project will be built with the grocery store and what things need to be clarified.
  • Senior Planner Hancey provided the elevations to present the other developments. Until the site plan is provided, the design and information may change.   Senior Planner Hancey asked if the drive through was looked into yet.   Planner Fletcher answered in saying that he has not yet reviewed it.
  • Discussion ensued about sky bridges.    Senior Planner Hancey presented other issues.
  • Planner Fletcher presented more concern about specifications on material and if this project will be ready for the next Planning Commission meeting on Augusth.
  • Senior Planner Hancey provided an example from block for where the units encroach on the sidewalk in relation to the issues noted with the sky bridge.
  • Chair Ghandourasked if there were any questions or comments. All departments had no further questions and the work session was closed.
  • Staff, Commission, and Committee Reports   Planner Fletcher announced the RFP for the TAG Grant will be going out today for the Mill Road corridor and wayfinding master plan.   Chair Ghandour congratulated him.   Planner Fletcher also announced the invitation for the extension of the TRCC Grant for thest of this month. He discussed the details for this extension.   Chair Ghandour clarified that they were invited to that.
  • Adjournment Chair Ghandour adjourned the meeting at44 am.       Minutes approval COMPLETED ON:  Decemberth,24  CERTIFIED (NOTICED) BY:                                          Madison Reed, Planning Technician

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Event transcript
Alright, so this is. 00:00:08
To call in order the Development Review Committee for July 25, 2024. It is currently 9:05 AM Mountain Time. 00:00:11
So. 00:00:22
The business items that we have today is Cottonwood space side, but then in the cloud. And just to start off with, just do roll 00:00:26
call. 00:00:31
Alright, it started off correct. Sure. Yeah. Cash can't see uh, senior planner covering for Morgan. Eric Ellis, a city manager. 00:00:36
Of a workshop engineer Chris Johnson, building official. 00:00:44
Brandon Valley Fire Department, Brian Vaudrey, Parks and Rec Director. Thank you very much. OK, so we have one business lines and 00:00:49
we currently have 4 tentative work sessions on the agenda. The 1st is design that we have is the work in the Cottonwood Stage five 00:00:55
amendment class fire station site law consolidation. 00:01:02
So Amtech group is requesting approval for talking with phase five amendment spot situation in regards to the fire station site 00:01:10
squad consolidation is to reinitiate projects and I believe we have I I on a cash advance, a senior plan of presenting yeah. I 00:01:17
mean this, this is a pretty basic uh, plat where we, we don't really do a lot on adjustment in our city. We just do final class 00:01:24
and so that's what this is doing uh, in the cottonwoods since this was originally umm. 00:01:30
Platted it was uh two separate lots, but since we're putting on the Firehouse on this lot, we need to combine them back to one lot 00:01:38
umm and so that's what this plat does here so you can see lot 6545 is is the two blocks combined umm pretty pretty basic flat so. 00:01:48
I don't know if you guys have any questions about it. 00:01:59
And I looked over any kind of comments that might be on the spot. Umm, there's a planning, uh, department. Have any comments about 00:02:04
this part? No. 00:02:08
OK. And then over a public works engineering, uh, Patrick James, assistance engineer, congratulations. 00:02:14
Yeah uh, do you have comments on this box there? Yeah, we just, we, we weren't able to make the comments yet in city inspect 00:02:22
because it wasn't, uh, through the yeah, But uh, we, we did have a comment on the easement. If, if that's an easement or a set 00:02:31
back shown, umm, around the property. Uh, we, we wouldn't need an easement around the entire property. 00:02:39
Umm and then also. 00:02:50
It it does look like it is an easement according to the legend. OK, it's it's not described I don't think anywhere. 00:02:53
So. So the easement just needs to be described. 00:03:01
Umm, what? You know, you have a full description for the easement and, uh, and we, we only need that on the two sides, uh, on the 00:03:08
street, the street side, down the street side, umm, and then, and then the lot needs an, an address associated with it. 00:03:16
And that address will be facing the South of 81 among the state. 00:03:27
Hold on. 00:03:32
I believe those were the only two comments. 00:03:35
We noticed on that. 00:03:41
Do you see that holding up for Corning or just comments we can make in get it recorded? Uh, the easement portion of it would have 00:03:44
to be changed. OK, yeah. I mean in essence, uh, I mean. 00:03:51
It doesn't need to be fully printed out. 00:03:58
Uh, pretty much take out wired out and that sounds like very easy until I just be following the standard easement type for every 00:04:02
app that there is for all the entire locks like this South southern corner lock. Sure, the easement is the way along alongside the 00:04:08
roads, not not the side nor the backside. And of course the the address. Umm, it depends on the county's acceptance if it could be 00:04:15
penciled, I don't know. OK. 00:04:21
We can give those comments back to them. 00:04:28
Those updates that I'll have to come back to DRC for a review of their administrative, uh, changes, OK. 00:04:31
Go home with anything else. 00:04:42
Oh, OK, fine. No, I don't think there's anything else on our side. All right, with that being said, uh, let me go around the room, 00:04:45
see if anyone else has any comments. So planning department, Mr. Cash, Nancy, uh, Eric, no comment, no comments. I don't have any 00:04:51
other further comments and, uh, know how much from building. 00:04:57
You know, comments required and then the comments from parks. All right, with that being said, cash, is this fake roll call with 00:05:04
those? Uh, yeah. All right. So, uh, do I have a motion? 00:05:08
Motion to approve the item is presented with the. 00:05:14
With the easement lines cleaned up and then and an address provided, I'll second that and we have a second, so we'll call or. 00:05:19
OK, so let's just go with all in favor. 00:05:31
Thank you very much. 00:05:36
Alright, so the second thing on our item is the work session for the Venture City fire stations pipeline. Uh, and who's for that 00:05:41
balancer? And that'll be me again. OK, so Mr. Kashi's senior planner, take it away. OK Yeah. So this is that site plan for the 00:05:47
plant. We were just looking at, umm, if you've seen the Princeton plan that, that home center construction builds in these 00:05:53
neighborhoods, you, you've seen this house before. Umm, it does include though this, you know, extra large garage. So for the 00:05:58
fire. 00:06:04
Apparatus umm, so this is the the site here. It is a lot of there is a lot of umm hardscape, especially in the the rear yard here. 00:06:10
Umm and then I think there this doesn't quite show it, but there's also going to be an ADA accessible, uh door at the back of the 00:06:18
building right here umm, with the sidewalk going out onto the street here. 00:06:26
Umm, let me go to the rendering here. So this is what it looks like they are emitting this uh, fourth car garage section and I'm 00:06:36
looking uh yeah yeah and mirrored. Yep. You can see the driveway here is off to the West. 00:06:44
OK, let me see. I'm leaving the 4th car garage. Is that whole thing being taken out or is it just being correct? So yeah, they're 00:06:54
taking that whole section out and then we're just doing the separate garage and got you instead of that. 00:07:00
Umm, so you can see that there's a few things, few comments here. This is where that, uh, door will be. 00:07:08
Actually, I take that back, so that's right here. 00:07:16
Umm, let me go to these elevations of the thought we had a color board here. 00:07:20
I'm not seeing color board, but anyways, uh, we, we did ask to do a little bit, umm, umm, higher end. Uh, I don't know if that's a 00:07:29
higher end, but they're going to do a brick facade around the whole building. Umm, instead of the traditional kind of the front 00:07:36
where they do, uh, an isoside there and the rest is off stucco. Umm, this will be all break and it'll look really nice. Umm. 00:07:43
But yeah, that's, I mean, it's a house, right? 00:07:53
It's a big drug, yeah. And we, we, we aren't seeking any kind of approval or anything like this. This will go through the Planning 00:07:57
Commission with a more complete application the Planning Commission will review. 00:08:02
The rest of the elevations overview, landscaping, umm, we'll make sure that it that it makes our code. 00:08:07
OK. And then? 00:08:15
Are they having a think about course for the pilot person to learn how to play pickleball? So Lauren, I'm sorry, we'll, we'll put 00:08:17
it on the roof. 00:08:21
Perfect. Now I think, uh, I don't have any questions. Does anyone here have any questions, uh, signing? No, we'll, we'll address 00:08:27
most of our questions in finance Commission meeting next week or two weeks. Uh, and then after as long as the garage, I don't see 00:08:34
any plans for the garage. Let me pull up the application and see if they have updated it just that. 00:08:42
In one case, there's going to be two units above the garage. Is that correct? 00:08:52
Umm, I'd have to. Are you living in unit? This is actually I think it's updated. It just says on the first page of the packet page 00:08:58
it says 2 uh, 2 units about the garage. 00:09:04
That's right. I, I don't think they have apnea. Do you know, have you seen the elevation for the garage yet? I, I think they're 00:09:14
still working on sending all that material. 00:09:19
At the back of the garage. So you're probably talking about like the units above, like yeah, you're talking about the detached 00:09:26
garage, right then, correct? Yeah, information mentioned something about unit above the garage. 00:09:35
Yeah. Good, good question. Yeah, we can look into that with the size of the apparatus and I don't think we could. 00:09:44
Something in there without going. It's like a two-story facility. 00:09:49
But I apologize, I forgot to introduce this. Umm chief, first time hearing has a lot of information about. 00:09:53
Yeah, side by side. OK, so let's see, you know, this is a clarification cache if it's two units like to, uh, umm, you know, 2 00:10:00
vehicle units and we just had clarification on the terminology to say OK, yeah, this is all why I was familiar with in the 00:10:08
northeast corner, they have that restroom. Yeah, no, that's a, that's a good couch. That's pretty much and, uh, Patricia. So yeah 00:10:15
we'll, we'll check on that when. 00:10:23
When we get the rest of the the materials for the detached garage. Alright, cool. 00:10:30
Yeah. 00:10:38
OK. So Eric, do you have any other questions? No questions there. And then Chris building? 00:10:41
No question. Uh, no from the fire department. No questions. All right. And then, Yep. Uh, so, uh, do we have anything from, uh, 00:10:49
you, uh, Patrick, excuse me. I know we have some technical stuff, but uh, yeah, that'll come later and review, but yeah, nothing 00:10:55
really. 00:11:01
Cool. And, uh, does anything. 00:11:08
OK. And then on the site plan review and I think we need to. 00:11:44
I think I have a meeting with Michael and and saying for this one of the Wednesdays that they're here, we can watch it out right 00:12:27
back. Yeah. 00:12:32
Are are we wanting them to take on the responsibility of doing all that work as well? Yeah, since we're since the city city 00:12:37
project anymore. OK, Yeah, I'll talk to him. Yeah. See you next. 00:12:43
Now, without being said, uh, that the closest, uh, that particular work session item and we have three other items, uh, you 00:12:53
thought that you bought. 00:12:56
And the developer representative not here, but I believe we have someone who wants to talk about the Bella's market pipeline or 00:13:02
yeah so and and we do have Rachel online she's done the initial review on 13 C, but it shows that they it was an incomplete 00:13:09
application. They are missing quite a few items a lot of items. So and so that one we're we're not gonna be able to get the 00:13:16
Planning Commission on the 7th. I know they're hanging for that one but the. 00:13:23
The grocery store blocked 4 Bells Market. That one is looking quite a bit better. And so we can still do a brief overview of that. 00:13:31
And if there's anything that the DRC sees that may hold this up, then we probably won't push for it to get to the Planning 00:13:37
Commission on the 7th. Otherwise we still might try to keep that on the agenda for the 7th for approval. So let me we'll get it 00:13:43
over to Anthony here in a second. 00:13:49
All right, so just as cash shared earlier, the grocery store is also missing a, you know, a few companies that need to be. 00:14:03
Included to make it a very complete application. 00:14:22
And I have some comments here that I can share. 00:14:27
So the commentary sharing is going to be the components are missing. Can I get it to complete the application? Yes. 00:14:32
Name. 00:14:40
I guess my question is if it's not a complete application to even go towards Planning Commission. So they still do have a week 00:14:42
until we have to get the umm, all the apples and make application materials ready for the agenda. This application did have most 00:14:50
of the files. So like the other blocks we're reviewing, they have issues with planning. They can submit landscaping plans, their 00:14:57
elevations are off, There's some issues, legal issues with the pedestrian bridge that goes between buildings. This one did have. 00:15:04
Cool idea, but you know, there's some issues, maybe some legal issues that need to be worked out, some planning issues. So that's 00:15:42
gonna bridge, uh, bridge building building yeah that that goes over public street. So yeah, that's fine. OK, so that that's kind 00:15:47
of the idea with these work sessions is just to, to flag these, these issues before it gets to the Planning Commission process. 00:15:53
Alright, that's fine. So. 00:15:58
So yeah, we can, you know, just spend a few minutes looking at the grocery store and if there's any, you know, anything that jumps 00:16:05
out or anything that, uh, anybody here might have concern with, we can send back and, and, you know, let the developers assess. 00:16:12
Take it away, Mr. Anthony. 00:16:24
Do we have anything open? 00:16:53
I can, I can probably. Or you just gotta make sure it sounds important. Yeah, OK. 00:17:29
That might schedule. 00:17:35
Can you hear me now? 00:17:39
So, umm. 00:17:42
Yeah. 00:17:50
Oh, can you hear me now? OK, so. 00:17:59
All right, so lately we've been having issues with title reports and umm. 00:18:14
Umm, you know, tax issues. So it's one of the main comments for them to make sure they're supplying us with umm, kind of data. 00:18:26
Title report. I know it's not the most relevant thing to us here at DRC, but I thought I'd keep it in as part of my notes. Umm, so 00:18:33
they would need to give us that, that information to be able to move forward. 00:18:40
Now on landscaping, we have. I'll start with landscaping. 00:18:51
Hello. 00:19:01
Yeah. 00:19:02
OK. 00:19:14
So on the landscaping plan, they. 00:19:24
Were missing quite a few things that I think should be made prior to the entire team just because they showed that. 00:19:29
The rest of the whole block, so the block has not been subdivided to show the other projects. Uh, this is gonna be the grocery 00:19:38
store with its parking right here now. Umm, we had. 00:19:45
A discussion with Bronson, the applicant, and he just mentioned that the rest of the lot will be used by surface parking in the 00:19:54
meantime until, umm, the, you know, until they're ready to develop these two buildings. However, the plan, uh, does not show that 00:20:03
at all. It just shows the future. Everything developed with the, with the trees and everything. So I have a comment in there too. 00:20:13
At least indicate that it's going to be UMM having service parking with UMM. 00:20:23
You know, the landscaping meeting our requirements, at least for the service market in here. However, what is required and has 00:20:31
been noted here for the parking for the grocery store is umm, one that meets code. 00:20:38
So I have no issues with. 00:20:47
I have no issues with this one, Anthony, real quick deal with the other building, you know, footprints being service parking. Are 00:20:51
they planning on implementing that with this site plan or is this gonna be part of one of the other block site plans? I know 00:20:57
they've been allocating parking for blocks on different blocks. So the, the last time we spoke about it, Bronson had mentioned 00:21:03
that you're trying to implement it with the site plan here for umm, uh, the grocery store. So I wanted to be indicated at least 00:21:09
also, uh, explained in the narrative. 00:21:15
Is that they are planning to have digital service parking in the meantime until further notice. And umm, it would not change the 00:21:21
parking count. Currently the parking count just needs what is required. Umm, so does the umm, ADA as well, maybe itself. So yeah, 00:21:27
if, if they are planning on doing that, which which is great, they would, we just want to see an updated site plan that shows the 00:21:34
entire, you know, parking. 00:21:41
Umm, parking lot and not the building footprints because that doesn't help with a whole lot. 00:21:49
Yep, Yep. So I have it in here as part of the, the umm, comments for them. Umm, that's the main thing. And if they're doing the 00:21:54
parking lot as well, we just don't wanna see a, a concrete or asphalt. We just wanna make sure that we have umm landscaping along 00:22:02
it because we don't know how how long that parking lot is gonna be in there for. It could be 5-10. 00:22:11
And, and on the technical side, I mean, we, we're the engineering. So we need to see the parking lot forward and so forth. 00:22:20
This is supposed to happen. 00:22:28
I don't know. And then of course any kind of other. 00:22:31
Uh, utilities, that might be enough in those areas. I guess they'll be temporary, temporary, uh, locations until the, uh, and so 00:22:36
forth. 00:22:40
And then you know that could be part of the long term management plan is going to have to address that, you know the temporary 00:22:45
structures being separated until a permit. 00:22:50
So. 00:22:58
Thank you. 00:22:59
I don't think I'll need to review the pipeline system. 00:23:02
Have you reviewed at the technical sign in control? Right, OK. 00:23:05
I'll make I'll make a note of it just to give them heads up on that as they update this one. 00:23:08
Umm, those null irrigation plan provided. So that's, uh, something that we request for. It was actually now, umm. 00:23:14
Scope of work that gave a real description of what they're intending to do on the actual site. They have shared with us, uh, not 00:23:24
written though that, uh, they intend to not plat because we had issues with planning on other sites that have been submitted. But 00:23:31
with this one, they decided to just keep it open just because if you look at this one, it's one open big, you know, block parcel 00:23:37
right now. 00:23:44
But umm, once they build out here, that's why they have, you know, plans of making this. 00:23:51
Parking lot because once they've done out here and they're not ready to develop these ones, uh, they don't want to spend time and 00:23:57
money and also tax for tax reasons. They don't want to subdivide this and uh, you know, give them issues in the future. I've 00:24:04
requested that they have all this in writing in their narrative or scope of work, just so that we're all on the same page and we 00:24:12
don't just assume that they're going to, you know, get things done as it should be. 00:24:19
So that's what we're landscaping. One, one other thing with landscaping, Anthony. I know that at the West side of the grocery 00:24:27
store, you have that that building back there. I know that's gonna be a separate building from my understanding. 00:24:33
Are just note down just right by the semi day to the West of that the left of that that whole section I I believe they're planning 00:24:41
on building separately. Umm and so we need to know you know that's not gonna be built with this grocery store. What what's it 00:24:47
gonna is it gonna be landscape? Is it gonna be asphalt You know so I asked for that as well in the narrative and an updated site 00:24:53
plan that that shows that. 00:24:59
Yeah, yeah. 00:25:12
What are the other two buildings? 00:25:22
Uh, there's no plans for them yet. What they will be umm, I think the area is zoned that it, it could be retail, it could be 00:25:25
office, it could be residential. Umm, I believe it will have some sort of retail component on the ground floor, but. 00:25:33
Until we actually see plans from them, we don't know. Yeah. 00:25:41
They expressed, uh, with last time I asked the same question, they're like, they're actually thinking of having some sort of a 00:25:45
mixed-use in there with ground floor retail and, uh, residential and offices, you know, above it. So yeah, it just brings up a 00:25:52
good point. There are those like little smaller buildings that they're building up to the north of the grocery store. Are they, is 00:25:58
that being built with this phase? I have no idea. It needs to be specified. 00:26:05
OK. 00:26:13
I mean, the next door is. 00:26:16
Is this just similar to your? 00:26:26
The structures on the north side of the building. 00:26:32
Residences, yeah. So the drug response will be a lower elevation than the surrounding. I think that West and north side will be 4 00:26:35
or 5 million. The elevation that I'm looking at shows the potential outline of like an 8 story building, but it's not an official 00:26:43
thing. I can I can show the elevation, OK. 00:26:51
And you can see what I'm talking about here. 00:27:00
Yeah. 00:27:04
I'll just take a minute to load here. 00:27:06
Quite too far. 00:27:09
So there is the front elevation of the grocery store. 00:27:12
You can see that this is what I was talking about there this other building over here. 00:27:19
After that I just left the West. 00:27:25
Halfway 9. 00:27:31
I don't know it's going to be that tall, but yeah, I, I mean, until we get site plans from them, you know, things can change. It 00:27:35
could be one story could do it could be a, you know, just landscaping for the foreseeable future, every single family houses. 00:27:43
Hi, it's cannot. I don't think our company would allow that. So but they are planning on separating those with the firewall so 00:27:52
they can open the grocery store. 00:27:56
So, uh, one, one thing I did want to ask Anthony, have you looked much into the code on the drive through? Because I know they 00:28:02
have the pharmacy on the South side with the drive through, not into detail as it relates to the umm, uh, downtown side. So, OK, 00:28:09
that, that might be something that could hold this up. Umm, if, if we can't figure out how to make that work unless we have to go 00:28:15
through it. I mean, text amendment to allow for pharmaceutical. 00:28:21
Uh, Dr. Throughs because I think our code right now specifically called out like hotel drop off. 00:28:28
Umm but not other Dr. throughs so. 00:28:34
Yeah. 00:28:41
And this is that firewall on the West elevation it looks like. 00:28:45
Was there anything else we wanted to review on this one, Anthony? 00:28:57
Quick one, can you pull out my comments again? 00:29:01
Any information about the bridge? 00:29:05
The pedestrian Ridge. So we, we didn't, I mean, that's on a different block, but umm, essentially we went with Jamie, our attorney 00:29:09
on that to talk about what needs to happen to allow for that. Umm, And so one of the things we're gonna have to figure out is, is 00:29:16
planning issues. How do we flat a bridge going over a public St. And so it might end up being that they retain ownership of that 00:29:22
section of St. umm, and it's private. 00:29:29
Umm And then the other thing that that they are the the applicant is, is examining our code to see if we even allow them, umm, and 00:29:37
what they're wanting to do with it. 00:29:41
And it's not, it might also require zoning text amendment. That's kind of another reason why that one's been pushed back. Yeah. 00:29:46
When you have the, uh, for the discussion, excuse me, just to get the password part of that discussion. Yeah. Wait for a moment. 00:29:53
Umm, Minneap, Minneapolis, MN. So skybridge is quite a bit, not just, uh, throughout the whole, throughout the whole city. So, 00:29:59
yeah, it's an easy. 00:30:06
Umm, easy model to look and look at and you know, and it's a whole system connection building, building as an office place. Thank 00:30:14
you. 00:30:18
Doesn't people from there says they're tough but they like to go sprinkles up there? 00:30:23
We we met with umm Janine last week. Were you on the podcast? Yeah, yeah, I was just telling the same kind of explain the process 00:30:32
of which they'll need to go through. But essentially we're we're leaving it up to the applicant to figure out the. 00:30:38
Legal way of doing this and making sure it's, it's in our code, yeah. 00:30:45
Senior conversations may be directed to. 00:30:53
The Minneapolis, Minneapolis, Minneapolis example and yeah, I, I mean that they're, they're aware of a lot of different, uh, sky 00:30:56
bridges and stuff like that, but it's more specific to our downtown code. Does that allow for this? The, the other thing with the 00:31:03
skybridge is they have this arcade style, umm, entrance to the building, which means they have units, essentially residential 00:31:10
units that are built on top of the sidewalk. And so that's another issue that we're trying to, to figure out. 00:31:17
I can show you not a few more. Alright, let's finish up. Is there anything else at the grocery store and then I can show the one 00:31:27
of the things we need clarity on would be materials on the elevations. Like they need to specify a lot more on the elevations and 00:31:32
umm also. 00:31:37
That drive through brought up. So that's that's about it for the drive, uh, for the. 00:31:43
Uh, grocery store. I don't know if they're really ready for five, umm, Planning Commission, but may maybe we could do a work 00:31:49
session on the 7th if it's not ready. Yeah, sure. 00:31:54
Let me see real quick if we wanna quickly just talk about this. 00:32:03
Umm, skybridge in these arcade. 00:32:08
Entrances if my computer loaded in. 00:32:14
Sorry these files take a minute for. 00:33:26
I may have froze my computer. 00:33:38
OK. I think we're back in business here. 00:34:02
OK. 00:34:10
As the elevation. 00:34:30
For the first four. 00:34:38
OK, let's see if this shows the and it's. 00:34:41
Yeah, so you can see this is a good example of it. This is on block 18. Umm, the red here is their uh, building line here outside 00:34:46
of that's gonna be your side walking street and you can see these units encroach that. 00:34:53
I can see if I can show you the elevation so you can kind of get an idea of, I mean that's not part of the site plan approval. 00:35:07
That that's part of AT&T is what they're, which is on their 13C and AT&T we, I put them as one item on this agenda just because 00:35:13
these buildings are pretty interconnected. So we're not talking about that. 00:35:18
OK, that's correct. Yeah. I just, you were asking about the Cybridge and I said that's one problem, this is another problem with 00:35:26
them putting essentially these residential units directly over the sidewalk. 00:35:31
Elevated, right? Yeah. So this is what we're looking at right here is the third floor. So essentially they have these, umm, I 00:35:39
don't know when, yeah these pillars that hold up the first two floors or going from the first two floors up to the third floor. 00:35:45
And then from there they have, you know, a unit here, I think the unit on the 1st, 4th floor and on the 5th floor they have like 00:35:52
an amenity space. 00:35:58
Umm, that that people can utilize. 00:36:05
So that was just another problem that relates to the skybridge, seeing the details on that. So cool. Thanks. 00:36:10
Was there anything else on the uh, we want to talk about the one, uh, the one pipeline work session being the, uh, Block 4? 00:36:21
No, no, I don't think so. We'll we'll probably do a work session on that Planning Commission, but. 00:36:30
I don't think so. 00:36:37
No, Patrick, did you have anything on that one? 00:36:41
OK, cool. Uh, let me know if I have questions. Uh, let me start from over to order this time, uh, Brian. 00:36:45
No questions. 00:36:53
Building no questions, none. Thanks. 00:36:57
No. Uh-huh. 00:37:03
I'll I'll back up on my end asset, uh, for next week. Uh, OK. 00:37:07
Sent out, umm, no, nothing said uh, I'll uh, close this work session, uh, and then moving on to #4 staff permissions may report. 00:37:12
Do you have anything, uh, Anthony, is there anything on that one? Umm, so we have umm, the RSP for the tax branch that we received 00:37:20
129,000 to umm, redesign the umm. 00:37:28
The Mill Rd. Cornwall and also get a well citywide wayfinding master plan and so that RFP is complete and will be going out today. 00:37:38
Sure. Thank you very much. Good job with the work on that. Yeah, Yeah, Patrick, Sir. 00:37:49
Uh, I don't know if I have anything right now. OK, alright, anything from the group? 00:37:58
So do I have a motion for adjournment? 11 more would be never mind. Sure. So, umm, we, we will be need, we will be, we have been 00:38:06
actually invited to the, uh, the county Commission meeting to get the approval for the TRCC grant extension. We requested for a 24 00:38:15
month extension and uh, they have worked with us and now we will have that approval on the 31st of this month. 00:38:24
And you're all invited to the meeting, uh, of accounting. 00:38:34
We'll have the 24 four months starting from the day of approval and would also have the inflationary asks that we requested that 00:38:37
relates to the amount region inflation. OK. And then, uh, so and the other. 00:38:45
We're invited, Yeah. I think that would be great to obtain for, uh, Patrick to understand. 00:38:57
You're welcome, Sir. Yeah. So make sure you don't leave them behind like, uh, you did for the last time. I thought it was 00:39:02
happening. 00:39:05
We'll make sure he's with us. I appreciate that. Thank you very much. Alright. Well, that being said, there's nothing else. You. 00:39:10
You can just adjourn it. Alright. I'm sorry. Hang on. Thank you. Have a great day. 00:39:15
OK. 00:39:27