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Call to Order/Invocation Chair Naseem Ghandour called to order at02am.
Consent Items
2.1.Approval of March24 Development Review Committee Draft Minutes Motion: SENIOR PLANNER CACHE HANCEY MOTIONED TO APPROVE THE MARCHH,24 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES AT03AM. BUILDING OFFICIAL CRIS JOHNSON SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR VOTED YES: GHANDOUR, ELLIS, VANCE, HANCEY, VALLEY, AND JOHNSON. THE VOTE CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Work Session
3.1.Geneva Road and5 Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints Chapel Site Plan Work Session Senior Planner Hancey presented the site plan and noted that the applicant was seeking feedback. He briefed the site.
The representative for the church, Mike Davey, provided that it will remain one lot. He provided a background. Senior Planner Hancey asked him to discuss access. Staff Engineer Patrick James noted he sent another site plan via email to cache.
Mr. Davey noted that plan is current and correct. He discussed access and asked about the current landscaping in the park strip. He asked for guidance on landscaping. Senior Planner Hancey briefed the landscape requirements that are addressed at planning commission.
Mr. Davey noted the biggest issue is the access on5 S. He informed a proposal to move the driveway back. Chair Ghandour noted and advised them towards a traffic analysis would show the movements.
Mr. Davey clarified the process. Mr. Davey asked about the other driveways. Staff Engineer James noted that he does not think it is a problem. Chair Ghandour asked about the speed of the road. Mr. Davey asked if he had an approved list of traffic engineers for that study. Chair Ghandour noted that it is not a recommendation but that he could share who we use. Chair Ghandour clarified that it is a mile pre hour road. Staff Engineer James noted that it may be miles per hour.
Mr. Davey asked where the city boundary was. Staff Engineer James noted that it was the next street.
Mr. Davey asked about the split zoning. Senior Planner Hancey noted that he would have to look into it and that it may be a conditional use. Mr. Davey asked about the approval process. Senior Planner Hancey noted that a conditional use permit would not add any time. He laid out the zoning of each section included. Mr. Davey clarified that he would do the conditional use and site plan approval. He asked if it would just go to planning commission. Senior Planner Hancey said yes and laid out the process.
Mr. Davey asked at what point can they apply for a building permit. Building Official Johnson said they could work together on that. Senior Planner Hancey asked about landscaping for a lot. Mr. Davey explained the materials. Senior Planner Hancey asked about the intention for the different buildings. Mr. Davey was unsure. Senior Planner Hancey noted that he may receive questions on that at planning commission.
Mr. Davey asked about a path on5 N. Senior Planner Hancey noted that the active transportation plan called for aft path. He said that they would look into it once they have a site plan submittal. Mr. Davey said he would like to know the requirements before he drafted the plan.
Mr. Davey asked about fencing requirements. Senior Planner Hancey noted that they would have to look into. Mr. Davey asked if there would be any issue with having two buildings on the same site. Building Official Johnson said no, not that he could think of. Chair Ghandour noted that the technical review would look at the utility information. Mr. Davey asked who to contact for utility questions moving forward. Chair Ghandour suggested Staff Engineer James.
Mr. Davey asked about sidewalk requirements. Chair Ghandour clarified the requirements are the same as the last church they did. Building Official Johnson asked if the occupancy will be at the same time. Mr. Davey said that they would time it to be together. He asked about the Certificate of Occupancy. Building Official Johnson said the permits would be issued separately.
Chair Ghandour brought up addressing. Discussion ensued.
Mr. Davey asked for an estimated timeline. Senior Planner Hancey outlined the process with estimated dates. Chair Ghandour added that they will aid with questions as they come up. Mr. Davey clarified the final approval time frame. Senior Planner Hancey briefed the process.
Mr. Davey asked what the building review looked like. Building Official Johnson noted that comments will be returned after aboutweeks. Mr. Davey asked if they reviewed them in house. Building Official Johnson said yes. There were no further comments.
Business Items 1.Utah City BlockFinal Plat Approval
Senior Planner Hancey provided a background on the subdivision. He noted planning comments: plat notes. Mr. Tatton asked for clarification on the plat notes. Discussion ensued.
Senior Planner Hancey noted the other condition about the fees. Staff Engineer James asked about the addressing. Mr.. Tatton clarified that it would be addressed off of Avery St. Chair Ghandour asked about an arrow on the plat. Staff Engineer James clarified that he thinks it is a part of the coordinates.
Chair Ghandour noted to ensure the public utility easement is well defined. Mr. Tatton noted that he will take a look at that. Chair Ghandour added that the addresses were set and to not change the building locations. Plans Examiner Patricia Abdullah asked about a lot line from a different lot. Mr. Tatton provided clarification. Plans Examiner Abdullah suggested to be aware of that property line. Mr. Tatton added that the lot lines were decided from an overlay. Staff Engineer James asked if there would need to be fire access. Chair Ghandour said it came down to the fire department’s requirements. Mr. Tatton noted that they are working in phases. Discussion ensued.
Motion: SENIOR PLANNER HANCEY MOVED TO APPROVE THE UTAH CITY BLOCKFINAL PLAT WITH CONDITIONS OF THE INCLUDION OF PLAT NOTES AND TO PAY THE BALANCE PRIOR TO RECORDATION OF THE PLAT AT38AM. PARKS AND RECREATION REPRESENTATIVE CARSON VANCE SECONDED. ROLL CALL WENT AS FOLLOWS: : GHANDOUR, ELLIS, VANCE, HANCEY, VALLEY, AND JOHNSON. THE VOTE CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Staff, Commission, and Committee Reports There were no comments.
Adjournment The meeting was adjourned at39am. AGENDA NOTICING COMPLETED ON: Januaryth,25 CERTIFIED (NOTICED) BY: Madison Reed, Planning Technician

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	Alright, good morning. This is uh, the development review committee, uh.	00:00:15
	August 15th, 2024. The time is now 9:02 AM.	00:00:18
	So, uh, first of all do is roll call, uh, here and we'll.	00:00:24
	To my left, my military left.	00:00:29
	All the way to the left? All the way to the left? Sure.	00:00:32
	Oh oh.	00:00:35
	No, you can do the first one. No, I just can't Fancy. I'm filling in for Morgan Berman Community Development. Thank you.	00:00:36
	Uh, Carson Vance, I'm filling in for Brian.	00:00:44
	Parks and Rec today.	00:00:47
	Eric Ellis UH city administration for the work engineering.	00:00:49
	Trish Johnson, Zimming official.	00:00:55
	Brandon Valley Fire Prevention.	00:00:57
	Actually, uh, that being said, umm, we have a work session, uh, in one, excuse me, once that item, one work session, one business	00:01:00
	item on our agenda, we'll start with the consent item. It's uh, 2.1 approval in March.	00:01:07
	Seven 2024 Development Review Committee dropped in minutes.	00:01:14
	So cash, I'll, I'll make a motion to approve this minute as presented.	00:01:19
	OK, you have a second.	00:01:23
	I can think of that. OK, so we have a, we have a 1st and we have a second.	00:01:26
	Uh, so all in favor.	00:01:30
	All right, all right, all right. So we can send out in the past, uh, by a margin of unanimous.	00:01:32
	Uh, uh. That being said, uh.	00:01:40
	Umm, we do have some special guests here for that, umm.	00:01:42
	Uh, the first uh, item is 3.1 Geneva Rd.	00:01:45
	And the five, uh, excuse me, 575.	00:01:49
	Church of Jesus Christ of all of these things Chapel sight plan work session.	00:01:53
	So who is the planner that's going to be present? Umm, I I can do a brief introduction here. I'm still waiting for an e-mail for a	00:01:57
	better.	00:02:00
	Copy of the site plan. As you saw on the agenda, there's a really like skewed version of this site plan.	00:02:03
	Umm, and this is just a work session. The last thing you're just wanting to get initial feedback on kind of the layout and access.	00:02:11
	Umm, to these lots. So I'll give a little background on location and then hopefully I'll have that e-mail with a better site plan	00:02:18
	that we can kinda get more details on.	00:02:22
	Umm but essentially the the charges use crushed platter. They they think they own 2 lots.	00:02:27
	Right here.	00:02:33
	Umm off James Road and.	00:02:34
	UH-575 S The Kilos building is just to the South of it.	00:02:36
	Umm, so they are intending on constructing.	00:02:40
	Two chapels on those lots. Umm. You can see this red line here I believe divides the properties, but it also.	00:02:43
	Divides the zoning if I'm not mistaken.	00:02:50
	Umm, and so we, we might have some issues there in finding that that we can look into.	00:02:53
	Umm, but if you, uh, what was your name again?	00:02:57
	My TV. My TV is here.	00:03:01
	Umm, And if if you wanna, if there's anything else you wanna add to the kinda introduction while wait for that e-mail, umm.	00:03:03
	Umm, and. And we can start getting the feedback.	00:03:09
	Hopefully soon.	00:03:12
	So it's actually just one box.	00:03:15
	Oh, it is just per month, OK.	00:03:17
	Hey, Sir, Sorry, uh.	00:03:19
	So trying to get yourself umm and umm.	00:03:23
	Go ahead and give it what you got.	00:03:26
	Hey architects represent.	00:03:29
	Uh, it'll just remain one lot.	00:03:43
	Umm, it is 2 meeting houses, so there's Aysa state Center for young single adult kids and then there's the kind of family ward	00:03:46
	building.	00:03:51
	Uh, we'll be building those concurrently with the same contractor.	00:03:56
	Umm.	00:04:00
	That pretty much comes up there.	00:04:02
	Executive summary of the project.	00:04:03
	Do you wanna talk about maybe about access? I think that might be one of the biggest things that we can work off of here with	00:04:07
	image. I do have, yeah. I'm sorry for the skewed site plan. Umm.	00:04:11
	So this is the building right here.	00:04:17
	And then this is another building right here.	00:04:19
	But like I said, the image is is very an e-mail that hasn't has another site plan that I don't know if it's the most recent but.	00:04:22
	Yeah, I I was gonna say I saw one a while ago, a few months ago, but it wasn't quite accurate from the latest one I've seen.	00:04:33
	Does that look great? Yeah, that's better.	00:04:42
	Yep. And that's uh.	00:04:45
	Yes, that's still correct. Correct.	00:04:47
	OK, wait.	00:04:50
	I finished open up and believe it in here.	00:04:54
	OK, alright.	00:05:06
	So on Geneva Rd. we're not having any access to EU dot Rd. as you know.	00:05:08
	Umm, so we don't really be doing anything on Geneva other than.	00:05:13
	Just landscaping up to the sidewalks.	00:05:17
	Umm.	00:05:20
	Did have a question. There is uh on Geneva. There's currently a park strip with rock mulch with weeds growing in it.	00:05:21
	Umm, so one question we had is we just re landscape that?	00:05:29
	Uh, any specific requirements on landscaping in that park strip?	00:05:32
	Umm, we're, we're proposing this new landscaping and that.	00:05:37
	So I just wanna make sure that was OK.	00:05:42
	Yeah, when when you do submit for umm, foresight plan, we can go over all the specific landscape requirements, but usually there	00:05:44
	there's a requirement for like 10 foot of frontage.	00:05:49
	On the road you do have to have a certain requirement of like trees and stuff, OK.	00:05:54
	Umm, so the biggest issue is probably the the access into the site on 575 S.	00:05:58
	Umm, as you can see, it's a huge parking lot. We need a lot of good circulation.	00:06:05
	So we're proposing that first. You know, we moved that first driveway back as far as we could.	00:06:09
	Uh, to have our parking lot flows, umm, so we're about 300 feet back from the intersection on 575.	00:06:14
	In Geneva, uh.	00:06:21
	I wanna make sure that's OK. I know there's been some preliminary discussions with our office in the city where that may not be	00:06:23
	allowed.	00:06:26
	Umm, but we really, really need, you know, that 300, you know, all three driveways to make our, our, our parking lot flow.	00:06:30
	Especially with the two buildings there.	00:06:39
	So I want to see what what we can do to get that approved.	00:06:41
	Uh, you know, the driveways as, as we've shown, or if it's not approved, you know what we can do to accommodate that.	00:06:44
	So that's that's the biggest single question I have.	00:06:49
	Is is driveway accesses?	00:06:52
	Uh, so.	00:06:57
	Uh, I can talk about that. So this is where you're on the one that's that's.	00:06:59
	Burns last season furnished E uh on the South Side.	00:07:02
	On that portion of it, uh, so currently, uh, the feedback that was provided to your office was to provide traffic analysis.	00:07:06
	Uh uh, traffic analysis to show the movement.	00:07:13
	Uh for the uh, for write in uh, actually for having a uh.	00:07:16
	Before fortunate access left out.	00:07:21
	OK, umm, the current.	00:07:24
	On that road as a double strike yellow line.	00:07:26
	And with the proximity that is to especially state road, uh.	00:07:29
	The the, uh, the state BLT that's going to be.	00:07:34
	Umm, I would say concerned that they're going to want to specifically.	00:07:37
	Have uh, a look at the insurance. Is that any kind of traffic, the TRA the travelers are being allowed will not be bringing any	00:07:41
	kind of impact on you Geneva?	00:07:45
	As well. So umm, answer that the answer that was given back to your office.	00:07:49
	In terms of that is the fact that the way that the road finally strikes, it's a.	00:07:54
	It's not even.	00:08:00
	That's uh, yeah, the way the roads kind of strike is umm, excuse me, uh, and with the proximity is to State Rd.	00:08:01
	Uh, following mistakes, following the safe driver in terms of uh.	00:08:10
	But more specifically about this provider copy analysis.	00:08:15
	OK, so the traffic now is the traffic now for supports to drive their full?	00:08:18
	You know, not a ride in right out, but the whole driveway access that would be then the state, then the city would get there. And	00:08:23
	of course then, uh, the dot.	00:08:27
	But we, we, we would coordinate with adopt to ensure that.	00:08:31
	The DLC is also comfortable with the shopping.	00:08:34
	Yes, same principles as the city follows itself when the city does, uh, changes to intersections in close proximity to a state	00:08:38
	road as well. OK, at the same time that we put on ourselves.	00:08:44
	OK.	00:08:50
	And then, uh, the other two driveway approaches, any issues with those, the proximity of those to each other? Is that another	00:08:51
	stuff analysis issue or, or those Facebook? OK, uh, so I can't.	00:08:56
	I I don't recall exactly what the business is.	00:09:02
	Those are from each driver, both you know Patrick, you might have some more information on that.	00:09:04
	Uh, I could. I could measure it, but I don't think there was a problem.	00:09:09
	OK. And.	00:09:14
	Forget, uh, forgive me for not knowing the speed of that road.	00:09:15
	It sounded like 25.	00:09:18
	Is that correct?	00:09:21
	Let me check, yeah.	00:09:23
	Because the speed of the road also dictates, uh, the separation of drivers.	00:09:27
	OK, well that uh, separates out.	00:09:31
	OK.	00:09:34
	Do you have an approved list of UH traffic engineers to do that study?	00:09:35
	Uh, we don't have an approved list.	00:09:39
	But, uh, you know, there are.	00:09:42
	Umm, uh, we can tell you the ones that we've used, but that's not a umm.	00:09:44
	Recommendation of any? OK, thank you now perfect. Then we can have a visa visa with.	00:09:50
	Engineering companies that are on our uh.	00:09:56
	They're on our design as a consulting list.	00:09:59
	OK, I'm just, uh, any traffic engineer would be who I'll share with you a great job. OK, great.	00:10:02
	Yeah.	00:10:09
	OK, umm.	00:10:10
	But yeah, that's what I'm sorry, there's no, there's no, uh, speed on signs on that particular Rd. So, so, yeah. So it's	00:10:12
	automatically, uh, designated as 25 mph road and that's something that.	00:10:17
	We would want to ensure that people are well aware of.	00:10:23
	That's 25, uh, 25 mile on our destination. Uh, not only.	00:10:26
	Uh, yeah, yeah, OK. There's a, a 30 mile per hour sign, uh, farther up to the West, so far up to the West is on long side. Yeah,	00:10:31
	we don't, we don't look, we don't look at the door.	00:10:37
	Sorry, where's? Where's the city boundary? The next street or?	00:10:44
	We're pretty far away.	00:10:51
	Yeah, the next street to the West is the is the boundary.	00:10:55
	Platform. OK, got it.	00:10:59
	Oh, OK.	00:11:02
	Yeah.	00:11:03
	But, uh, that is, that is identified, umm, a opportunity for the city to work with or, uh, and of course, uh.	00:11:04
	You know yourself as a partner to, uh, make sure that that's not the.	00:11:11
	I called the traffic issues.	00:11:16
	OK, good.	00:11:18
	OK, alright. Uh, did that answer your question, Sir? Yeah, that does. No, Thank you.	00:11:20
	Uh, the split zoning, anything we need to do with that?	00:11:25
	I'll, I'll have to look more into it, but, but generally I, I believe this is a conditional use in, in both. I, I could be wrong	00:11:29
	on that, but I'll, I'll get back to you on that for sure. Umm, but I, I don't see any issues going forward.	00:11:35
	Umm, but I'll, I'll talk with Morgan, the community development director on that to see if you prefer to see it. Zone. Is is 1	00:11:41
	property or is 1?	00:11:45
	You know, zone. OK then.	00:11:49
	We prefer not to rezone it, you know, just for the timing aspect of it. Umm.	00:11:51
	And we're building this project. We're starting to bid this project today and so.	00:11:56
	I'm hoping to get under construction just as soon as possible, so.	00:11:59
	Umm, OK, I'll, I'll try to get you an answer, uh, probably by the end of today, OK.	00:12:02
	And what is, uh, our approval process then?	00:12:10
	Are we doing a conditional use permit?	00:12:13
	Or is it just the site plan? Uh, let let me look real quick for you are the conditional use permit won't, uh, add time to the.	00:12:17
	Umm, so the the approval process by any means, umm.	00:12:24
	Let me just pull up the the zoning table here. We just do that concurrent with the site plan approval, right? Yeah, yeah. We can	00:12:29
	take it through Planning Commission at the exact same time. So yeah, it looks like.	00:12:34
	Umm, you're zoned on the the east side is regional commercial and then on the left side as the residential.	00:12:38
	Umm, I apologize, I should have known this, but our our other planner is the one who's kind of been working on this project and he	00:12:47
	was not able to come in today so.	00:12:50
	Let me.	00:12:54
	Yeah, I'm, I'm saying that it is, uh, actually regional commercial. It looks like you're permitted.	00:12:57
	And then in the uh.	00:13:03
	Uh, residential it's a conditional year ago, so.	00:13:06
	For the transfer conditional use for the pipeline approval, OK.	00:13:09
	And that goes to Planning Commission only. City Council, just just Planning Commission. Just Planning Commission. OK, Yeah, after	00:13:12
	Planning Commission.	00:13:15
	Umm, you'll move on and work with, with Patrick and his team on the, the technical review and the, uh.	00:13:19
	Umm, like Land of service permits and and then Chris Johnson and and Patricia. I don't know if she's on the phone. I think she is.	00:13:24
	Umm, on the building permit itself.	00:13:30
	And those things can work simultaneously together, so.	00:13:33
	OK. You can submit it all after site plan is kind of you can submit everything to them, OK.	00:13:37
	Uh, at what point can we submit for a building permit application? Can we do that prior to actually, I mean, I'd like to kind of.	00:13:43
	Do that concurrently if we can, at least the review process.	00:13:50
	Is that possible?	00:13:53
	Yeah, yeah. We can work with you on that, OK.	00:13:56
	Alright, good.	00:13:59
	I understand I can't get a moment from it until we get signed approval.	00:14:04
	OK, Umm, I did have a question this, uh, kind of lot right here. Uh, is that intended to have like the traditional like pavilion	00:14:07
	and and just graph?	00:14:12
	That's the other left dash, the rectangle, that's the pavilion. And then that, uh yeah, the bigger areas just, uh, open grass	00:14:17
	area, OK.	00:14:20
	Umm, and then I, I don't know if you know this or not, umm, but are these intended for?	00:14:25
	Uh, these buildings, I know one of the YSA Warden, so that's kind of more regional, uh.	00:14:30
	Use but the the other Chapel. Do you know if that is intended for like vineyard residence or for the shining area? I've also heard	00:14:35
	the church mention something about like a.	00:14:39
	For like a Polynesian branch or ward or something, I don't think there will be umm. I think that's just from the surrounding area	00:14:44
	and I'm not sure what.	00:14:48
	You know what area is gonna end up.	00:14:53
	Yeah, that's just a typical regular family. I will say that the during Planning Commission probably will get people asking about	00:14:55
	that.	00:14:59
	Churches in the city so.	00:15:04
	OK, this will double our account. Oh, you only have two?	00:15:06
	Yeah, OK.	00:15:10
	Yeah, yeah, the the church does own a lot, a lot of property that only two sites have been built.	00:15:13
	OK.	00:15:19
	OK, umm.	00:15:22
	Let's see improve Rd. improvements on 575. SI know there's been some talk about a 10 foot path possibly somewhere.	00:15:26
	Umm, just wanna make sure what our what what's my required Rd. section? I, I believe that was something that that Anthony brought	00:15:33
	up. Umm it it.	00:15:38
	The the active transportation plan that we have approved last year.	00:15:43
	UMM called for a tent to pass on this road. Umm.	00:15:48
	We we can look more into that and and when you do get the actual site plan submitted.	00:15:51
	Umm, we can go into kind of what pedestrian improvements we want to see along that, that section of the road there.	00:15:55
	Umm, but yeah.	00:16:02
	Once, once we get that official submittal, we can.	00:16:06
	And I I would really appreciate if you could send me some of that information before we Draw Something that's wrong. OK. You know,	00:16:09
	I'd love to get, get that, you know, tell me what the requirements are and then we can draw the right numbers then. Yeah.	00:16:15
	OK.	00:16:22
	Umm, I'm assuming we're just widening that. You know, we're just improving our.	00:16:24
	The right of way improvements together sidewalk and this just you know is that a path or a sidewalk or.	00:16:29
	Yeah, yeah. And then we're just going out to existing edge of asphalt probably. I've seen like I'm assuming, umm.	00:16:34
	Just me. Just sock up the existing advanced vault and go out to that existing edge.	00:16:40
	On on this particular one, currently that's what we have. And again, you're tracking analysis needs to provide some other	00:16:46
	additional, uh, information in regards to whatever improvements.	00:16:50
	OK, alright.	00:16:55
	OK.	00:16:59
	Umm.	00:16:59
	Fencing, uh, right now there's no fence between us and that existing building, uh, to the north.	00:17:02
	And then the school district has a chain link open. Chain link fence.	00:17:08
	What type of fencing requirements would we have on the site?	00:17:13
	That that would be another thing that that we'll have to look into is zoning. I'll, I'll make a list of bookings that that you're	00:17:18
	looking for, for Anthony to OK to send over your way.	00:17:22
	Is that I assume that's the residentially zoned?	00:17:32
	To the wet, OK, it is residential zone. I'm assuming that'd be some type of solid fence, but yeah, OK.	00:17:35
	Umm, given that we have two permits on the same 2 buildings on the same site.	00:17:48
	Is that gonna bring up any issues with building permits or utility stub insurance? I guess building permits first is that?	00:17:54
	Umm want to probably 2 separate permits with one contractor on the same site and the issues there.	00:18:01
	No, no, not that I can think of. Yeah, I I couldn't think of anything either. So.	00:18:08
	Yeah, I'm again with some details and so forth. Uh, when we get to the technical review portion of that, that's when we'll.	00:18:11
	Umm, identify the plan.	00:18:18
	Each building would have a separate umm.	00:18:19
	Becoming a leader. OK, good. That's what we're hoping to do is, you know, each building would be.	00:18:22
	You know, separate utility stubs even though it's on one side.	00:18:27
	So if that's OK, what's what we plan on, Yeah, I don't think there'll be an issue with that owners since it's been in our	00:18:30
	organization, but.	00:18:33
	Again, uh, the other aspect about that too is to make sure that the technical review will be, uh, requesting.	00:18:37
	Uh, anything else?	00:18:44
	Utility analysis to ensure that.	00:18:45
	Uh, that, uh, you need to require to uh.	00:18:47
	You know, uh, levels of services.	00:18:51
	OK. I like that. OK.	00:18:54
	OK, yeah, those were my big picture items. Umm, we have specific questions. Nothing. Are you the best one to talk about the	00:19:02
	utilities as we go forward? Uh, Patrick would be a good person to talk to you as well. So if you put it up, if you put those with	00:19:07
	us on there, uh, I think you put the chance that you'll get, uh.	00:19:12
	You know the right or wrong answer now you'll get the right answer for sure. But, uh.	00:19:17
	I have to make sure you get the right answer 100% but those are put both of us on there.	00:19:21
	And then you can also always include development services.	00:19:26
	Uh, you know the, uh, is, uh. Do you have your e-mail already by chance?	00:19:30
	Yeah, yeah, that's cash and send it out to develop the services, uh, e-mail, uh, because that's nothing. That's the e-mail that's	00:19:35
	monitored by, uh, an admin who make sure that, uh, we take care of business.	00:19:39
	OK.	00:19:45
	So alright.	00:19:45
	Uh, let's see, when we did the last Vineyard church when it was just completed, we had truncated domes required on the sidewalks	00:19:49
	that our driver prints Dr. entrances. Is that the same thing in colored concrete? Yeah, they're all commercial. Uh, all commercial	00:19:55
	side, uh, or industri, uh, institutionalized, OK.	00:20:00
	So alright.	00:20:06
	OK, anything else for me?	00:20:11
	I just had one more question. Do you plan on occupying the buildings at the same time or you?	00:20:14
	Planning on occupying 1 before the other.	00:20:19
	I would.	00:20:22
	Good question. Umm.	00:20:23
	I would imagine we'll probably try to time it so they're together.	00:20:27
	Uh, if anything would be staggered by maybe a month or two.	00:20:30
	All right. Umm.	00:20:34
	I don't care if we, I mean can we get ACFO?	00:20:35
	For one prior to the other.	00:20:38
	Perfect.	00:20:40
	When we issued the request, we'll just issue them separately. OK plan.	00:20:42
	So we might be able to finish them out separately too. Yeah, that does bring up one point on there and it might be something that	00:20:46
	we have to have to look at is, uh, deeper dies is, umm, addressing.	00:20:50
	That's the first thing. I'll send a single plot and with two separate buildings and we still have two separate utility services.	00:20:55
	I can definitely not just, uh, not just for billing aspects.	00:21:02
	Ensure that we have around the post office side, so.	00:21:06
	Umm, got it Sir Umm.	00:21:09
	I'm gonna look at cash room to make sure that we stay on top of that. Yeah, I, I've had that as one of my notes that we need to	00:21:12
	discuss, you know?	00:21:16
	So I right now I've just got a an approximate address listed for both projects. You know 100 since the.	00:21:20
	Since the smaller building faces on Geneva, I have a Geneva address.	00:21:26
	Uh, I'm assuming that's how you do it. And then the other one would have a 575 S address.	00:21:30
	I don't know if anybody else where your front door faces and then with this building have multiple front doors.	00:21:35
	Yeah, and and maybe actually more advantageous if you have them both.	00:21:40
	The 575 and, and that's fine too. I can, I think it would be more advantageous, uh, to have it both, uh, facing the 5.5. There's	00:21:45
	no confusion. There's no confusion, uh, in terms of uh, jurisdiction for the second address.	00:21:51
	OK, uh, on the I don't think that would be about a nice clean cup.	00:21:57
	On that and then, uh.	00:22:02
	Yeah. And then?	00:22:05
	Umm, what about the cash in order to make sure the address industry because uh-huh.	00:22:06
	Such as that's something you can just run with and, and then just send me the addresses or do I need to, uh, one of us, umm Naseem	00:22:11
	is the one who, who does the we'll, we'll figure that out.	00:22:17
	Kind of what I'm getting out is, you know, uh, two separate addresses for one school, for one personal, uh, my, uh, trigger a	00:22:24
	error, uh, message with you accounting and then of course, uh.	00:22:29
	Yeah, mainly in Utah. I don't, I don't believe they'll have any issues with emergency services. OK. There are two separate	00:22:35
	addresses that's gonna be OK with one lock. That's all. Just make sure with Utah County, umm, just before we get into the process,	00:22:41
	we just wanna make sure, you know, if there's any kind of things that would have to be done.	00:22:46
	Umm, that's typically the way, that the way the, uh, typically the way that, umm.	00:22:52
	Multiple buildings on that, you know, a lot of typically handles is we have like that, uh.	00:22:56
	Status as you tend to like a meter or like a electrical services and then everything else allows you to see sub addresses.	00:23:01
	So we have a MA in essence here. We have a master meter and.	00:23:09
	Uh, I would think it would be sub addresses.	00:23:12
	Just found out we, we've done it before, but uh, we just wanna make sure, uh, Utah County's requirements and so forth hasn't, uh,	00:23:14
	hasn't, uh.	00:23:18
	Refined or changed? OK, alright, sounds good.	00:23:22
	I would just say, uh, check back with us next week.	00:23:25
	Scientists do, uh, clarify with you downtown to make sure that.	00:23:28
	Other, uh, Tinder crossing eyes about it.	00:23:32
	OK. We don't want to delay your process, but thank you.	00:23:35
	Alright, umm, just a.	00:23:39
	Broad time frame? Umm, nothing I'm gonna hold you to but.	00:23:42
	Say if we submit for site plans in a week or so.	00:23:46
	Umm.	00:23:49
	What? What kind of time frame should I expect to get through Planning Commission?	00:23:51
	If you're able to submit in about a week, uh, probably the earliest for Planning Commission would be September 18th. Mm-hmm.	00:23:55
	Umm, so we have the Planning Commission on the the 1st and the 3rd.	00:24:02
	Uh, Wednesday of the month.	00:24:06
	We probably would want to see this come through DRC again as more of an official item. Umm with with stuff finalized and we could.	00:24:08
	Probably do that on the 5th.	00:24:15
	Which is in three weeks.	00:24:17
	Umm, and then that would give us time to to give you a comment back so that we can get it ready for the 18th for approval.	00:24:19
	OK. And if I'm not mistaken.	00:24:24
	Umm, and I have some questions in regards to the building and and engineering stuff. Uh, I.	00:24:27
	We won't, uh, not answer those questions, so OK.	00:24:33
	You can either posture forward.	00:24:37
	OK.	00:24:39
	OK.	00:24:41
	So, uh.	00:24:42
	And then, uh, so and then September 18th would be the final approval. That'd be the final approval from Yep, you get something to	00:24:44
	go back after that, right? Correct. So I mean, after that, the, the planning department's essentially done with you and then	00:24:50
	you'll, like I said, you'll move on to it and Patrick and Chris and Patty for further.	00:24:56
	Review. But after that you're, you're just in the building permit and land the service permit process. OK.	00:25:02
	Alright, uh, what's your billing commitment, review process or time timeline?	00:25:08
	We'll have your comments back to you within two weeks and then.	00:25:13
	As soon as you can come back to us, we can.	00:25:17
	Go from there. Perfect.	00:25:19
	Do you review those in house?	00:25:21
	Yeah, OK, good.	00:25:23
	All right.	00:25:26
	Anything else for me?	00:25:28
	I'm good.	00:25:30
	OK.	00:25:31
	Thanks, Sir. All right, coming down. Thank you, everyone. Thank you, Sir.	00:25:33
	Alright, well, that was uh, uh.	00:25:38
	That was all the items that you had in the work session. So the next item is our business item.	00:25:40
	Uh, so it's 4.1 Detox City block 4 final plat approval, uh.	00:25:44
	I have this one as well. OK.	00:25:50
	Uh, there we go.	00:25:55
	OK.	00:25:57
	So we are, uh.	00:25:58
	Working on the the grocery store block with with the the flat growth team here. Umm, that's a lot 4 of the Utah City downtown.	00:26:00
	Umm, and in order for them to go forward with their site plan approval, umm, we, we did require them to, to subdivide that block,	00:26:08
	to break it off with just the grocery store block, umm.	00:26:13
	Uh, site plan.	00:26:18
	Umm, we could get approved. Umm, so that's what you see here. Initially they did submit a a final plat that was just Lot 4 or	00:26:19
	Block 4.	00:26:23
	Umm, but then we, we discussed changing that to just, uh, amend the phase two, uh, class.	00:26:28
	Which was this entire thing, so that that's what they've done here is they've, they've broken up a lot for Block 4 on the phase	00:26:34
	two final splat.	00:26:38
	Umm, there were a few comments that that we had in planning. One would be that, uh, flat note that we put on the other plat.	00:26:42
	About all public or all private streets are open to the public.	00:26:50
	It isn't quite the I.	00:26:56
	I haven't pulled up here on a different plat.	00:26:59
	Umm, because I wanted to get the specific wording.	00:27:03
	Umm, I think it's a phase three. Plat has it.	00:27:05
	All right, just a.	00:27:12
	So for the condition here.	00:27:14
	Umm, OK, yeah, it's loading now.	00:27:18
	Yeah, in accordance with section 3.06.	00:27:25
	010 of the rise ordinance Virginia City all private road shall be available for public use at all times. That's that. No, that's	00:27:29
	that's flat three. Yeah. Does it sound OK?	00:27:33
	Yeah. So I, I, I think that that we discussed.	00:27:40
	That note language after this phase two plat was initially recorded.	00:27:44
	Umm. And so it was never on this plat to begin with.	00:27:49
	Yeah, yeah. But that's why we went to an amended plan versus just doing a new plat is we could fix the.	00:27:54
	The language on this one, if we just amend it and add the lot lines, that's right.	00:28:01
	Umm, and then the other thing, the other, the other condition that we have is to figure out the I know you and Kenzie have been	00:28:06
	in, in conversations about the payment issue.	00:28:09
	Umm, I'm not going to there afterwards, Yeah. And just have that those, those are our conditions from the planning department on	00:28:14
	there. But that that's all that we had.	00:28:18
	The the the Patrick, do you have any comments from from engineering?	00:28:23
	Uh, no, I don't believe.	00:28:27
	I do and the only question I would would.	00:28:29
	I was, I was thinking about just the address and the umm.	00:28:32
	But, uh, I, I think we're good.	00:28:36
	Umm.	00:28:39
	So the the grocery store like the 4C lot?	00:28:40
	Will be addressed off of Avery St.	00:28:44
	Yeah, OK.	00:28:47
	Yeah. And then just uh, uh, almost, you lost, uh, on that, so.	00:28:49
	Uh, the arrow on their points online the 4th C versus to the body.	00:28:54
	I'm not sure that's going to be an issue with the county, but it has.	00:28:59
	OK, we're at the 4th, the last four see the arrow. I don't think it's uh, they need the arrow arrow.	00:29:03
	For the coordinate, it just kind of looked like the coordinate is part of the.	00:29:08
	Slide 4C.	00:29:13
	Oh, oh, I see that. OK. Oh, about 4D going over to that other little L shape. Yeah, yeah, the coordinates.	00:29:15
	So he's giving coordinate that. Yeah, OK, I'm, I'm a I'm a stressbuster. OK, Patrick, clarify this for me.	00:29:22
	So all that, uh, so.	00:29:29
	Yeah. The other thing I would have is to ensure that.	00:29:33
	Uh, the public, uh, public utility funds for the boss are, uh, you know, well defined, especially for the lost one.	00:29:35
	So, uh, the one while it's paid, that's it. That's, uh, during the.	00:29:43
	Uh, starts approval. There may be some additional requirements depending on how.	00:29:49
	That's all done, Yeah. So I think, uh, I think that's something that's administrative change I can have afterwards.	00:29:56
	Yeah, that's a good point. Like if you look over it, in between 5A and 5B is the PUE that goes along that lot line.	00:30:02
	And I'm thinking about, uh, this may require the same thing. Umm, on the outside.	00:30:10
	But uh, I don't, uh.	00:30:16
	You know, I think, uh.	00:30:18
	It will, it will fall down to how the uh, how the uh, charges are gonna be sent to the block. So I would say that is very.	00:30:20
	We'll, we'll take a look at that if we need them through there. And again, that will be done today. Administrative change. It	00:30:28
	doesn't have to be a new positive. It could be reported, uh, after the fact.	00:30:32
	Uh, through umm.	00:30:38
	How much of the UV brand?	00:30:39
	OK.	00:30:41
	So, uh, with that being said, uh, uh, you know, uh, your addresses are set, uh, by the county, uh, with us. So no changing their	00:30:44
	building locations.	00:30:49
	Alright, Yep.	00:30:54
	All right, well, that being said, uh, let me first, uh, go around the room, see if there's any kind of, uh, if there's any	00:30:57
	comments, uh, planning, is there any comments? Alright. And then, uh, Parks and Rec.	00:31:02
	OK. All right. Same address, Sir. No, none from anything. Uh, public works and engineering, we've got our balance and then	00:31:08
	billing.	00:31:11
	We're good, all right. And sorry department, I have a comment that's great.	00:31:16
	So we got one from Patricia.	00:31:20
	Alright, Patricia.	00:31:22
	Can you hear me? Yeah.	00:31:24
	That's the question. Umm, so I just have a question. Or the the lock between 4G and 4G?	00:31:26
	The site plan that we reviewed, you'll never, you're not gonna have a lock line running internally through that building, is that	00:31:32
	correct? Yeah. So that lot line goes between the grocery store building.	00:31:37
	And the residential wrap SO4D is the residential wrap around the grocery store.	00:31:43
	You'll just wanna be very careful then when you're doing so when you go back to the site plan.	00:31:50
	We might want to have that lot lined in, superimposed on it so that we can see and make sure that, umm.	00:31:56
	We're not building over the that property line. Yeah, that's a good point. That is how those lot lanes got established as we did	00:32:04
	in the overlay. And we can share that with you too. That'd be great.	00:32:09
	Uh, thank you very much because I'm still, uh, there. I can buy some.	00:32:19
	No problem, nothing on this, just you got my e-mail on umm, just kind of a.	00:32:23
	Global hydrant, you know? Yeah.	00:32:29
	All right. Thank you. OK.	00:32:32
	Thank you, Patrick. What will I go out for you?	00:32:33
	I guess one other thought, would we need a fire access through like kind of in relation to that PUE potential? Would we need a	00:32:37
	fire access, uh, easement through there as well in May, the firewall, I think it really comes out to the fire department's	00:32:41
	suppliers.	00:32:45
	Uh, on that and.	00:32:50
	Uh, with that being said, that can be done, that can be done in this days in terms of your agreement.	00:32:52
	That could be recorded.	00:32:57
	Uh, you know, it could be, uh, it could be a new class or it could be like a.	00:32:58
	Umm, like about IRP with a boundary description?	00:33:03
	As well as they uh, as well exhibit.	00:33:06
	A little bit fob here, but I don't think that's that's, that's not that long.	00:33:10
	Yeah. I think the thing that we'll weigh in more on.	00:33:14
	Accesses what we do on the other block like subsequent phases.	00:33:16
	Like we're kind of locking in this one, but.	00:33:20
	In turn, that also, you know, constrained those other blocks with.	00:33:24
	How we get in for?	00:33:28
	Fire access right now.	00:33:30
	4A4B and 4C4C is the parking.	00:33:32
	The east side of 4C is the parking lot, so access around the building is really easy.	00:33:37
	But when we come in and build 4A, it's gonna pinch down Paseo that goes between the buildings, and that's one.	00:33:43
	We'll start focusing on fire access.	00:33:50
	Do we need to drive down through the?	00:33:53
	The paseo or can we stage on both ends? That's the kind of evaluation we'll make at that point.	00:33:55
	Yeah.	00:34:01
	Well, about 3:26.	00:34:05
	That's probably the full length of four AI don't know what the length is.	00:34:07
	Guess we could add some up.	00:34:12
	It's 74 + 165.	00:34:14
	It easily seems like a fall in my mind was the.	00:34:20
	Yeah, about 2:40.	00:34:25
	Yeah, to 330-9240.	00:34:29
	Mm-hmm.	00:34:33
	Yeah, like I said, right now it should be easy.	00:34:42
	And run within 100 and.	00:34:44
	This is the center point.	00:34:47
	Hmm. Yeah, yeah. Because yeah, if it was 300, you could get on both ends and be 150 from the center.	00:34:53
	Mm-hmm.	00:35:03
	Pull all the way through, yeah.	00:35:08
	Yeah.	00:35:10
	OK.	00:35:11
	Is that higher than that spot?	00:35:13
	Yeah.	00:35:16
	Yeah, like a hydrant kind of in the middle here.	00:35:18
	Somewhere.	00:35:21
	OK.	00:35:24
	All right. Well, I think that there's not a final call and then?	00:35:27
	So this is uh.	00:35:30
	Approval of cash, Can you remind us it's a uh.	00:35:32
	Umm umm, and then you get a roll call bug or at all? I don't, I never know.	00:35:35
	Can we get we can always do it doesn't hurt. OK, so this is so we need to make a motion. OK, so that being said, uh, I'm looking	00:35:42
	for a motion.	00:35:46
	I'll move to approve. You've got to be safe to amended.	00:35:50
	Subdivision flat with the conditions.	00:35:53
	Uh, the, umm, figuring out the payment.	00:35:56
	Umm, and.	00:35:59
	What was my Oh and then that flat note about the the private St. being open to the public being added to this.	00:36:01
	Cry 4 and acquire 4/2.	00:36:08
	Umm being recorded.	00:36:10
	Umm, not necessarily.	00:36:15
	OK, I got, I got motions. I have a second.	00:36:19
	I second that motion. Thank you very much, Mr. Van.	00:36:24
	So that without being a service to go place in with a roll call vote. So, uh, cash. All right. OK, Carson.	00:36:28
	Hi, uh, Erica, hi, uh, myself.	00:36:35
	Hi, I'm done. Fine. All right, so it's passed umm by umm now so.	00:36:39
	For margin.	00:36:46
	Another slimmer than the last one. OK.	00:36:48
	Alright, thank you very much.	00:36:52
	Uh, that being said, do we have any staff, uh, Commission or committee reports?	00:36:54
	Nope. Uh, so we got nothing on here. OK, well, I appreciate that. So moving on to adjournment further rides.	00:37:01
	Just to turn this.	00:37:08
	Alright so let me ask this question does anyone have?	00:37:09
	But not once, said Jarvis.	00:37:12
	1-2 North.	00:37:15
	This name's Ben and John. Have a great day. Thank you very much.	00:37:16
	Trying to figure out the OK.	00:37:40
	How are we gonna separate the construction of that?	00:37:43

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	Alright, good morning. This is uh, the development review committee, uh.	00:00:15
	August 15th, 2024. The time is now 9:02 AM.	00:00:18
	So, uh, first of all do is roll call, uh, here and we'll.	00:00:24
	To my left, my military left.	00:00:29
	All the way to the left? All the way to the left? Sure.	00:00:32
	Oh oh.	00:00:35
	No, you can do the first one. No, I just can't Fancy. I'm filling in for Morgan Berman Community Development. Thank you.	00:00:36
	Uh, Carson Vance, I'm filling in for Brian.	00:00:44
	Parks and Rec today.	00:00:47
	Eric Ellis UH city administration for the work engineering.	00:00:49
	Trish Johnson, Zimming official.	00:00:55
	Brandon Valley Fire Prevention.	00:00:57
	Actually, uh, that being said, umm, we have a work session, uh, in one, excuse me, once that item, one work session, one business	00:01:00
	item on our agenda, we'll start with the consent item. It's uh, 2.1 approval in March.	00:01:07
	Seven 2024 Development Review Committee dropped in minutes.	00:01:14
	So cash, I'll, I'll make a motion to approve this minute as presented.	00:01:19
	OK, you have a second.	00:01:23
	I can think of that. OK, so we have a, we have a 1st and we have a second.	00:01:26
	Uh, so all in favor.	00:01:30
	All right, all right, all right. So we can send out in the past, uh, by a margin of unanimous.	00:01:32
	Uh, uh. That being said, uh.	00:01:40
	Umm, we do have some special guests here for that, umm.	00:01:42
	Uh, the first uh, item is 3.1 Geneva Rd.	00:01:45
	And the five, uh, excuse me, 575.	00:01:49
	Church of Jesus Christ of all of these things Chapel sight plan work session.	00:01:53
	So who is the planner that's going to be present? Umm, I I can do a brief introduction here. I'm still waiting for an e-mail for a	00:01:57
	better.	00:02:00
	Copy of the site plan. As you saw on the agenda, there's a really like skewed version of this site plan.	00:02:03
	Umm, and this is just a work session. The last thing you're just wanting to get initial feedback on kind of the layout and access.	00:02:11
	Umm, to these lots. So I'll give a little background on location and then hopefully I'll have that e-mail with a better site plan	00:02:18
	that we can kinda get more details on.	00:02:22
	Umm but essentially the the charges use crushed platter. They they think they own 2 lots.	00:02:27
	Right here.	00:02:33
	Umm off James Road and.	00:02:34
	UH-575 S The Kilos building is just to the South of it.	00:02:36
	Umm, so they are intending on constructing.	00:02:40
	Two chapels on those lots. Umm. You can see this red line here I believe divides the properties, but it also.	00:02:43
	Divides the zoning if I'm not mistaken.	00:02:50
	Umm, and so we, we might have some issues there in finding that that we can look into.	00:02:53
	Umm, but if you, uh, what was your name again?	00:02:57
	My TV. My TV is here.	00:03:01
	Umm, And if if you wanna, if there's anything else you wanna add to the kinda introduction while wait for that e-mail, umm.	00:03:03
	Umm, and. And we can start getting the feedback.	00:03:09
	Hopefully soon.	00:03:12
	So it's actually just one box.	00:03:15
	Oh, it is just per month, OK.	00:03:17
	Hey, Sir, Sorry, uh.	00:03:19
	So trying to get yourself umm and umm.	00:03:23
	Go ahead and give it what you got.	00:03:26
	Hey architects represent.	00:03:29
	Uh, it'll just remain one lot.	00:03:43
	Umm, it is 2 meeting houses, so there's Aysa state Center for young single adult kids and then there's the kind of family ward	00:03:46
	building.	00:03:51
	Uh, we'll be building those concurrently with the same contractor.	00:03:56
	Umm.	00:04:00
	That pretty much comes up there.	00:04:02
	Executive summary of the project.	00:04:03
	Do you wanna talk about maybe about access? I think that might be one of the biggest things that we can work off of here with	00:04:07
	image. I do have, yeah. I'm sorry for the skewed site plan. Umm.	00:04:11
	So this is the building right here.	00:04:17
	And then this is another building right here.	00:04:19
	But like I said, the image is is very an e-mail that hasn't has another site plan that I don't know if it's the most recent but.	00:04:22
	Yeah, I I was gonna say I saw one a while ago, a few months ago, but it wasn't quite accurate from the latest one I've seen.	00:04:33
	Does that look great? Yeah, that's better.	00:04:42
	Yep. And that's uh.	00:04:45
	Yes, that's still correct. Correct.	00:04:47
	OK, wait.	00:04:50
	I finished open up and believe it in here.	00:04:54
	OK, alright.	00:05:06
	So on Geneva Rd. we're not having any access to EU dot Rd. as you know.	00:05:08
	Umm, so we don't really be doing anything on Geneva other than.	00:05:13
	Just landscaping up to the sidewalks.	00:05:17
	Umm.	00:05:20
	Did have a question. There is uh on Geneva. There's currently a park strip with rock mulch with weeds growing in it.	00:05:21
	Umm, so one question we had is we just re landscape that?	00:05:29
	Uh, any specific requirements on landscaping in that park strip?	00:05:32
	Umm, we're, we're proposing this new landscaping and that.	00:05:37
	So I just wanna make sure that was OK.	00:05:42
	Yeah, when when you do submit for umm, foresight plan, we can go over all the specific landscape requirements, but usually there	00:05:44
	there's a requirement for like 10 foot of frontage.	00:05:49
	On the road you do have to have a certain requirement of like trees and stuff, OK.	00:05:54
	Umm, so the biggest issue is probably the the access into the site on 575 S.	00:05:58
	Umm, as you can see, it's a huge parking lot. We need a lot of good circulation.	00:06:05
	So we're proposing that first. You know, we moved that first driveway back as far as we could.	00:06:09
	Uh, to have our parking lot flows, umm, so we're about 300 feet back from the intersection on 575.	00:06:14
	In Geneva, uh.	00:06:21
	I wanna make sure that's OK. I know there's been some preliminary discussions with our office in the city where that may not be	00:06:23
	allowed.	00:06:26
	Umm, but we really, really need, you know, that 300, you know, all three driveways to make our, our, our parking lot flow.	00:06:30
	Especially with the two buildings there.	00:06:39
	So I want to see what what we can do to get that approved.	00:06:41
	Uh, you know, the driveways as, as we've shown, or if it's not approved, you know what we can do to accommodate that.	00:06:44
	So that's that's the biggest single question I have.	00:06:49
	Is is driveway accesses?	00:06:52
	Uh, so.	00:06:57
	Uh, I can talk about that. So this is where you're on the one that's that's.	00:06:59
	Burns last season furnished E uh on the South Side.	00:07:02
	On that portion of it, uh, so currently, uh, the feedback that was provided to your office was to provide traffic analysis.	00:07:06
	Uh uh, traffic analysis to show the movement.	00:07:13
	Uh for the uh, for write in uh, actually for having a uh.	00:07:16
	Before fortunate access left out.	00:07:21
	OK, umm, the current.	00:07:24
	On that road as a double strike yellow line.	00:07:26
	And with the proximity that is to especially state road, uh.	00:07:29
	The the, uh, the state BLT that's going to be.	00:07:34
	Umm, I would say concerned that they're going to want to specifically.	00:07:37
	Have uh, a look at the insurance. Is that any kind of traffic, the TRA the travelers are being allowed will not be bringing any	00:07:41
	kind of impact on you Geneva?	00:07:45
	As well. So umm, answer that the answer that was given back to your office.	00:07:49
	In terms of that is the fact that the way that the road finally strikes, it's a.	00:07:54
	It's not even.	00:08:00
	That's uh, yeah, the way the roads kind of strike is umm, excuse me, uh, and with the proximity is to State Rd.	00:08:01
	Uh, following mistakes, following the safe driver in terms of uh.	00:08:10
	But more specifically about this provider copy analysis.	00:08:15
	OK, so the traffic now is the traffic now for supports to drive their full?	00:08:18
	You know, not a ride in right out, but the whole driveway access that would be then the state, then the city would get there. And	00:08:23
	of course then, uh, the dot.	00:08:27
	But we, we, we would coordinate with adopt to ensure that.	00:08:31
	The DLC is also comfortable with the shopping.	00:08:34
	Yes, same principles as the city follows itself when the city does, uh, changes to intersections in close proximity to a state	00:08:38
	road as well. OK, at the same time that we put on ourselves.	00:08:44
	OK.	00:08:50
	And then, uh, the other two driveway approaches, any issues with those, the proximity of those to each other? Is that another	00:08:51
	stuff analysis issue or, or those Facebook? OK, uh, so I can't.	00:08:56
	I I don't recall exactly what the business is.	00:09:02
	Those are from each driver, both you know Patrick, you might have some more information on that.	00:09:04
	Uh, I could. I could measure it, but I don't think there was a problem.	00:09:09
	OK. And.	00:09:14
	Forget, uh, forgive me for not knowing the speed of that road.	00:09:15
	It sounded like 25.	00:09:18
	Is that correct?	00:09:21
	Let me check, yeah.	00:09:23
	Because the speed of the road also dictates, uh, the separation of drivers.	00:09:27
	OK, well that uh, separates out.	00:09:31
	OK.	00:09:34
	Do you have an approved list of UH traffic engineers to do that study?	00:09:35
	Uh, we don't have an approved list.	00:09:39
	But, uh, you know, there are.	00:09:42
	Umm, uh, we can tell you the ones that we've used, but that's not a umm.	00:09:44
	Recommendation of any? OK, thank you now perfect. Then we can have a visa visa with.	00:09:50
	Engineering companies that are on our uh.	00:09:56
	They're on our design as a consulting list.	00:09:59
	OK, I'm just, uh, any traffic engineer would be who I'll share with you a great job. OK, great.	00:10:02
	Yeah.	00:10:09
	OK, umm.	00:10:10
	But yeah, that's what I'm sorry, there's no, there's no, uh, speed on signs on that particular Rd. So, so, yeah. So it's	00:10:12
	automatically, uh, designated as 25 mph road and that's something that.	00:10:17
	We would want to ensure that people are well aware of.	00:10:23
	That's 25, uh, 25 mile on our destination. Uh, not only.	00:10:26
	Uh, yeah, yeah, OK. There's a, a 30 mile per hour sign, uh, farther up to the West, so far up to the West is on long side. Yeah,	00:10:31
	we don't, we don't look, we don't look at the door.	00:10:37
	Sorry, where's? Where's the city boundary? The next street or?	00:10:44
	We're pretty far away.	00:10:51
	Yeah, the next street to the West is the is the boundary.	00:10:55
	Platform. OK, got it.	00:10:59
	Oh, OK.	00:11:02
	Yeah.	00:11:03
	But, uh, that is, that is identified, umm, a opportunity for the city to work with or, uh, and of course, uh.	00:11:04
	You know yourself as a partner to, uh, make sure that that's not the.	00:11:11
	I called the traffic issues.	00:11:16
	OK, good.	00:11:18
	OK, alright. Uh, did that answer your question, Sir? Yeah, that does. No, Thank you.	00:11:20
	Uh, the split zoning, anything we need to do with that?	00:11:25
	I'll, I'll have to look more into it, but, but generally I, I believe this is a conditional use in, in both. I, I could be wrong	00:11:29
	on that, but I'll, I'll get back to you on that for sure. Umm, but I, I don't see any issues going forward.	00:11:35
	Umm, but I'll, I'll talk with Morgan, the community development director on that to see if you prefer to see it. Zone. Is is 1	00:11:41
	property or is 1?	00:11:45
	You know, zone. OK then.	00:11:49
	We prefer not to rezone it, you know, just for the timing aspect of it. Umm.	00:11:51
	And we're building this project. We're starting to bid this project today and so.	00:11:56
	I'm hoping to get under construction just as soon as possible, so.	00:11:59
	Umm, OK, I'll, I'll try to get you an answer, uh, probably by the end of today, OK.	00:12:02
	And what is, uh, our approval process then?	00:12:10
	Are we doing a conditional use permit?	00:12:13
	Or is it just the site plan? Uh, let let me look real quick for you are the conditional use permit won't, uh, add time to the.	00:12:17
	Umm, so the the approval process by any means, umm.	00:12:24
	Let me just pull up the the zoning table here. We just do that concurrent with the site plan approval, right? Yeah, yeah. We can	00:12:29
	take it through Planning Commission at the exact same time. So yeah, it looks like.	00:12:34
	Umm, you're zoned on the the east side is regional commercial and then on the left side as the residential.	00:12:38
	Umm, I apologize, I should have known this, but our our other planner is the one who's kind of been working on this project and he	00:12:47
	was not able to come in today so.	00:12:50
	Let me.	00:12:54
	Yeah, I'm, I'm saying that it is, uh, actually regional commercial. It looks like you're permitted.	00:12:57
	And then in the uh.	00:13:03
	Uh, residential it's a conditional year ago, so.	00:13:06
	For the transfer conditional use for the pipeline approval, OK.	00:13:09
	And that goes to Planning Commission only. City Council, just just Planning Commission. Just Planning Commission. OK, Yeah, after	00:13:12
	Planning Commission.	00:13:15
	Umm, you'll move on and work with, with Patrick and his team on the, the technical review and the, uh.	00:13:19
	Umm, like Land of service permits and and then Chris Johnson and and Patricia. I don't know if she's on the phone. I think she is.	00:13:24
	Umm, on the building permit itself.	00:13:30
	And those things can work simultaneously together, so.	00:13:33
	OK. You can submit it all after site plan is kind of you can submit everything to them, OK.	00:13:37
	Uh, at what point can we submit for a building permit application? Can we do that prior to actually, I mean, I'd like to kind of.	00:13:43
	Do that concurrently if we can, at least the review process.	00:13:50
	Is that possible?	00:13:53
	Yeah, yeah. We can work with you on that, OK.	00:13:56
	Alright, good.	00:13:59
	I understand I can't get a moment from it until we get signed approval.	00:14:04
	OK, Umm, I did have a question this, uh, kind of lot right here. Uh, is that intended to have like the traditional like pavilion	00:14:07
	and and just graph?	00:14:12
	That's the other left dash, the rectangle, that's the pavilion. And then that, uh yeah, the bigger areas just, uh, open grass	00:14:17
	area, OK.	00:14:20
	Umm, and then I, I don't know if you know this or not, umm, but are these intended for?	00:14:25
	Uh, these buildings, I know one of the YSA Warden, so that's kind of more regional, uh.	00:14:30
	Use but the the other Chapel. Do you know if that is intended for like vineyard residence or for the shining area? I've also heard	00:14:35
	the church mention something about like a.	00:14:39
	For like a Polynesian branch or ward or something, I don't think there will be umm. I think that's just from the surrounding area	00:14:44
	and I'm not sure what.	00:14:48
	You know what area is gonna end up.	00:14:53
	Yeah, that's just a typical regular family. I will say that the during Planning Commission probably will get people asking about	00:14:55
	that.	00:14:59
	Churches in the city so.	00:15:04
	OK, this will double our account. Oh, you only have two?	00:15:06
	Yeah, OK.	00:15:10
	Yeah, yeah, the the church does own a lot, a lot of property that only two sites have been built.	00:15:13
	OK.	00:15:19
	OK, umm.	00:15:22
	Let's see improve Rd. improvements on 575. SI know there's been some talk about a 10 foot path possibly somewhere.	00:15:26
	Umm, just wanna make sure what our what what's my required Rd. section? I, I believe that was something that that Anthony brought	00:15:33
	up. Umm it it.	00:15:38
	The the active transportation plan that we have approved last year.	00:15:43
	UMM called for a tent to pass on this road. Umm.	00:15:48
	We we can look more into that and and when you do get the actual site plan submitted.	00:15:51
	Umm, we can go into kind of what pedestrian improvements we want to see along that, that section of the road there.	00:15:55
	Umm, but yeah.	00:16:02
	Once, once we get that official submittal, we can.	00:16:06
	And I I would really appreciate if you could send me some of that information before we Draw Something that's wrong. OK. You know,	00:16:09
	I'd love to get, get that, you know, tell me what the requirements are and then we can draw the right numbers then. Yeah.	00:16:15
	OK.	00:16:22
	Umm, I'm assuming we're just widening that. You know, we're just improving our.	00:16:24
	The right of way improvements together sidewalk and this just you know is that a path or a sidewalk or.	00:16:29
	Yeah, yeah. And then we're just going out to existing edge of asphalt probably. I've seen like I'm assuming, umm.	00:16:34
	Just me. Just sock up the existing advanced vault and go out to that existing edge.	00:16:40
	On on this particular one, currently that's what we have. And again, you're tracking analysis needs to provide some other	00:16:46
	additional, uh, information in regards to whatever improvements.	00:16:50
	OK, alright.	00:16:55
	OK.	00:16:59
	Umm.	00:16:59
	Fencing, uh, right now there's no fence between us and that existing building, uh, to the north.	00:17:02
	And then the school district has a chain link open. Chain link fence.	00:17:08
	What type of fencing requirements would we have on the site?	00:17:13
	That that would be another thing that that we'll have to look into is zoning. I'll, I'll make a list of bookings that that you're	00:17:18
	looking for, for Anthony to OK to send over your way.	00:17:22
	Is that I assume that's the residentially zoned?	00:17:32
	To the wet, OK, it is residential zone. I'm assuming that'd be some type of solid fence, but yeah, OK.	00:17:35
	Umm, given that we have two permits on the same 2 buildings on the same site.	00:17:48
	Is that gonna bring up any issues with building permits or utility stub insurance? I guess building permits first is that?	00:17:54
	Umm want to probably 2 separate permits with one contractor on the same site and the issues there.	00:18:01
	No, no, not that I can think of. Yeah, I I couldn't think of anything either. So.	00:18:08
	Yeah, I'm again with some details and so forth. Uh, when we get to the technical review portion of that, that's when we'll.	00:18:11
	Umm, identify the plan.	00:18:18
	Each building would have a separate umm.	00:18:19
	Becoming a leader. OK, good. That's what we're hoping to do is, you know, each building would be.	00:18:22
	You know, separate utility stubs even though it's on one side.	00:18:27
	So if that's OK, what's what we plan on, Yeah, I don't think there'll be an issue with that owners since it's been in our	00:18:30
	organization, but.	00:18:33
	Again, uh, the other aspect about that too is to make sure that the technical review will be, uh, requesting.	00:18:37
	Uh, anything else?	00:18:44
	Utility analysis to ensure that.	00:18:45
	Uh, that, uh, you need to require to uh.	00:18:47
	You know, uh, levels of services.	00:18:51
	OK. I like that. OK.	00:18:54
	OK, yeah, those were my big picture items. Umm, we have specific questions. Nothing. Are you the best one to talk about the	00:19:02
	utilities as we go forward? Uh, Patrick would be a good person to talk to you as well. So if you put it up, if you put those with	00:19:07
	us on there, uh, I think you put the chance that you'll get, uh.	00:19:12
	You know the right or wrong answer now you'll get the right answer for sure. But, uh.	00:19:17
	I have to make sure you get the right answer 100% but those are put both of us on there.	00:19:21
	And then you can also always include development services.	00:19:26
	Uh, you know the, uh, is, uh. Do you have your e-mail already by chance?	00:19:30
	Yeah, yeah, that's cash and send it out to develop the services, uh, e-mail, uh, because that's nothing. That's the e-mail that's	00:19:35
	monitored by, uh, an admin who make sure that, uh, we take care of business.	00:19:39
	OK.	00:19:45
	So alright.	00:19:45
	Uh, let's see, when we did the last Vineyard church when it was just completed, we had truncated domes required on the sidewalks	00:19:49
	that our driver prints Dr. entrances. Is that the same thing in colored concrete? Yeah, they're all commercial. Uh, all commercial	00:19:55
	side, uh, or industri, uh, institutionalized, OK.	00:20:00
	So alright.	00:20:06
	OK, anything else for me?	00:20:11
	I just had one more question. Do you plan on occupying the buildings at the same time or you?	00:20:14
	Planning on occupying 1 before the other.	00:20:19
	I would.	00:20:22
	Good question. Umm.	00:20:23
	I would imagine we'll probably try to time it so they're together.	00:20:27
	Uh, if anything would be staggered by maybe a month or two.	00:20:30
	All right. Umm.	00:20:34
	I don't care if we, I mean can we get ACFO?	00:20:35
	For one prior to the other.	00:20:38
	Perfect.	00:20:40
	When we issued the request, we'll just issue them separately. OK plan.	00:20:42
	So we might be able to finish them out separately too. Yeah, that does bring up one point on there and it might be something that	00:20:46
	we have to have to look at is, uh, deeper dies is, umm, addressing.	00:20:50
	That's the first thing. I'll send a single plot and with two separate buildings and we still have two separate utility services.	00:20:55
	I can definitely not just, uh, not just for billing aspects.	00:21:02
	Ensure that we have around the post office side, so.	00:21:06
	Umm, got it Sir Umm.	00:21:09
	I'm gonna look at cash room to make sure that we stay on top of that. Yeah, I, I've had that as one of my notes that we need to	00:21:12
	discuss, you know?	00:21:16
	So I right now I've just got a an approximate address listed for both projects. You know 100 since the.	00:21:20
	Since the smaller building faces on Geneva, I have a Geneva address.	00:21:26
	Uh, I'm assuming that's how you do it. And then the other one would have a 575 S address.	00:21:30
	I don't know if anybody else where your front door faces and then with this building have multiple front doors.	00:21:35
	Yeah, and and maybe actually more advantageous if you have them both.	00:21:40
	The 575 and, and that's fine too. I can, I think it would be more advantageous, uh, to have it both, uh, facing the 5.5. There's	00:21:45
	no confusion. There's no confusion, uh, in terms of uh, jurisdiction for the second address.	00:21:51
	OK, uh, on the I don't think that would be about a nice clean cup.	00:21:57
	On that and then, uh.	00:22:02
	Yeah. And then?	00:22:05
	Umm, what about the cash in order to make sure the address industry because uh-huh.	00:22:06
	Such as that's something you can just run with and, and then just send me the addresses or do I need to, uh, one of us, umm Naseem	00:22:11
	is the one who, who does the we'll, we'll figure that out.	00:22:17
	Kind of what I'm getting out is, you know, uh, two separate addresses for one school, for one personal, uh, my, uh, trigger a	00:22:24
	error, uh, message with you accounting and then of course, uh.	00:22:29
	Yeah, mainly in Utah. I don't, I don't believe they'll have any issues with emergency services. OK. There are two separate	00:22:35
	addresses that's gonna be OK with one lock. That's all. Just make sure with Utah County, umm, just before we get into the process,	00:22:41
	we just wanna make sure, you know, if there's any kind of things that would have to be done.	00:22:46
	Umm, that's typically the way, that the way the, uh, typically the way that, umm.	00:22:52
	Multiple buildings on that, you know, a lot of typically handles is we have like that, uh.	00:22:56
	Status as you tend to like a meter or like a electrical services and then everything else allows you to see sub addresses.	00:23:01
	So we have a MA in essence here. We have a master meter and.	00:23:09
	Uh, I would think it would be sub addresses.	00:23:12
	Just found out we, we've done it before, but uh, we just wanna make sure, uh, Utah County's requirements and so forth hasn't, uh,	00:23:14
	hasn't, uh.	00:23:18
	Refined or changed? OK, alright, sounds good.	00:23:22
	I would just say, uh, check back with us next week.	00:23:25
	Scientists do, uh, clarify with you downtown to make sure that.	00:23:28
	Other, uh, Tinder crossing eyes about it.	00:23:32
	OK. We don't want to delay your process, but thank you.	00:23:35
	Alright, umm, just a.	00:23:39
	Broad time frame? Umm, nothing I'm gonna hold you to but.	00:23:42
	Say if we submit for site plans in a week or so.	00:23:46
	Umm.	00:23:49
	What? What kind of time frame should I expect to get through Planning Commission?	00:23:51
	If you're able to submit in about a week, uh, probably the earliest for Planning Commission would be September 18th. Mm-hmm.	00:23:55
	Umm, so we have the Planning Commission on the the 1st and the 3rd.	00:24:02
	Uh, Wednesday of the month.	00:24:06
	We probably would want to see this come through DRC again as more of an official item. Umm with with stuff finalized and we could.	00:24:08
	Probably do that on the 5th.	00:24:15
	Which is in three weeks.	00:24:17
	Umm, and then that would give us time to to give you a comment back so that we can get it ready for the 18th for approval.	00:24:19
	OK. And if I'm not mistaken.	00:24:24
	Umm, and I have some questions in regards to the building and and engineering stuff. Uh, I.	00:24:27
	We won't, uh, not answer those questions, so OK.	00:24:33
	You can either posture forward.	00:24:37
	OK.	00:24:39
	OK.	00:24:41
	So, uh.	00:24:42
	And then, uh, so and then September 18th would be the final approval. That'd be the final approval from Yep, you get something to	00:24:44
	go back after that, right? Correct. So I mean, after that, the, the planning department's essentially done with you and then	00:24:50
	you'll, like I said, you'll move on to it and Patrick and Chris and Patty for further.	00:24:56
	Review. But after that you're, you're just in the building permit and land the service permit process. OK.	00:25:02
	Alright, uh, what's your billing commitment, review process or time timeline?	00:25:08
	We'll have your comments back to you within two weeks and then.	00:25:13
	As soon as you can come back to us, we can.	00:25:17
	Go from there. Perfect.	00:25:19
	Do you review those in house?	00:25:21
	Yeah, OK, good.	00:25:23
	All right.	00:25:26
	Anything else for me?	00:25:28
	I'm good.	00:25:30
	OK.	00:25:31
	Thanks, Sir. All right, coming down. Thank you, everyone. Thank you, Sir.	00:25:33
	Alright, well, that was uh, uh.	00:25:38
	That was all the items that you had in the work session. So the next item is our business item.	00:25:40
	Uh, so it's 4.1 Detox City block 4 final plat approval, uh.	00:25:44
	I have this one as well. OK.	00:25:50
	Uh, there we go.	00:25:55
	OK.	00:25:57
	So we are, uh.	00:25:58
	Working on the the grocery store block with with the the flat growth team here. Umm, that's a lot 4 of the Utah City downtown.	00:26:00
	Umm, and in order for them to go forward with their site plan approval, umm, we, we did require them to, to subdivide that block,	00:26:08
	to break it off with just the grocery store block, umm.	00:26:13
	Uh, site plan.	00:26:18
	Umm, we could get approved. Umm, so that's what you see here. Initially they did submit a a final plat that was just Lot 4 or	00:26:19
	Block 4.	00:26:23
	Umm, but then we, we discussed changing that to just, uh, amend the phase two, uh, class.	00:26:28
	Which was this entire thing, so that that's what they've done here is they've, they've broken up a lot for Block 4 on the phase	00:26:34
	two final splat.	00:26:38
	Umm, there were a few comments that that we had in planning. One would be that, uh, flat note that we put on the other plat.	00:26:42
	About all public or all private streets are open to the public.	00:26:50
	It isn't quite the I.	00:26:56
	I haven't pulled up here on a different plat.	00:26:59
	Umm, because I wanted to get the specific wording.	00:27:03
	Umm, I think it's a phase three. Plat has it.	00:27:05
	All right, just a.	00:27:12
	So for the condition here.	00:27:14
	Umm, OK, yeah, it's loading now.	00:27:18
	Yeah, in accordance with section 3.06.	00:27:25
	010 of the rise ordinance Virginia City all private road shall be available for public use at all times. That's that. No, that's	00:27:29
	that's flat three. Yeah. Does it sound OK?	00:27:33
	Yeah. So I, I, I think that that we discussed.	00:27:40
	That note language after this phase two plat was initially recorded.	00:27:44
	Umm. And so it was never on this plat to begin with.	00:27:49
	Yeah, yeah. But that's why we went to an amended plan versus just doing a new plat is we could fix the.	00:27:54
	The language on this one, if we just amend it and add the lot lines, that's right.	00:28:01
	Umm, and then the other thing, the other, the other condition that we have is to figure out the I know you and Kenzie have been	00:28:06
	in, in conversations about the payment issue.	00:28:09
	Umm, I'm not going to there afterwards, Yeah. And just have that those, those are our conditions from the planning department on	00:28:14
	there. But that that's all that we had.	00:28:18
	The the the Patrick, do you have any comments from from engineering?	00:28:23
	Uh, no, I don't believe.	00:28:27
	I do and the only question I would would.	00:28:29
	I was, I was thinking about just the address and the umm.	00:28:32
	But, uh, I, I think we're good.	00:28:36
	Umm.	00:28:39
	So the the grocery store like the 4C lot?	00:28:40
	Will be addressed off of Avery St.	00:28:44
	Yeah, OK.	00:28:47
	Yeah. And then just uh, uh, almost, you lost, uh, on that, so.	00:28:49
	Uh, the arrow on their points online the 4th C versus to the body.	00:28:54
	I'm not sure that's going to be an issue with the county, but it has.	00:28:59
	OK, we're at the 4th, the last four see the arrow. I don't think it's uh, they need the arrow arrow.	00:29:03
	For the coordinate, it just kind of looked like the coordinate is part of the.	00:29:08
	Slide 4C.	00:29:13
	Oh, oh, I see that. OK. Oh, about 4D going over to that other little L shape. Yeah, yeah, the coordinates.	00:29:15
	So he's giving coordinate that. Yeah, OK, I'm, I'm a I'm a stressbuster. OK, Patrick, clarify this for me.	00:29:22
	So all that, uh, so.	00:29:29
	Yeah. The other thing I would have is to ensure that.	00:29:33
	Uh, the public, uh, public utility funds for the boss are, uh, you know, well defined, especially for the lost one.	00:29:35
	So, uh, the one while it's paid, that's it. That's, uh, during the.	00:29:43
	Uh, starts approval. There may be some additional requirements depending on how.	00:29:49
	That's all done, Yeah. So I think, uh, I think that's something that's administrative change I can have afterwards.	00:29:56
	Yeah, that's a good point. Like if you look over it, in between 5A and 5B is the PUE that goes along that lot line.	00:30:02
	And I'm thinking about, uh, this may require the same thing. Umm, on the outside.	00:30:10
	But uh, I don't, uh.	00:30:16
	You know, I think, uh.	00:30:18
	It will, it will fall down to how the uh, how the uh, charges are gonna be sent to the block. So I would say that is very.	00:30:20
	We'll, we'll take a look at that if we need them through there. And again, that will be done today. Administrative change. It	00:30:28
	doesn't have to be a new positive. It could be reported, uh, after the fact.	00:30:32
	Uh, through umm.	00:30:38
	How much of the UV brand?	00:30:39
	OK.	00:30:41
	So, uh, with that being said, uh, uh, you know, uh, your addresses are set, uh, by the county, uh, with us. So no changing their	00:30:44
	building locations.	00:30:49
	Alright, Yep.	00:30:54
	All right, well, that being said, uh, let me first, uh, go around the room, see if there's any kind of, uh, if there's any	00:30:57
	comments, uh, planning, is there any comments? Alright. And then, uh, Parks and Rec.	00:31:02
	OK. All right. Same address, Sir. No, none from anything. Uh, public works and engineering, we've got our balance and then	00:31:08
	billing.	00:31:11
	We're good, all right. And sorry department, I have a comment that's great.	00:31:16
	So we got one from Patricia.	00:31:20
	Alright, Patricia.	00:31:22
	Can you hear me? Yeah.	00:31:24
	That's the question. Umm, so I just have a question. Or the the lock between 4G and 4G?	00:31:26
	The site plan that we reviewed, you'll never, you're not gonna have a lock line running internally through that building, is that	00:31:32
	correct? Yeah. So that lot line goes between the grocery store building.	00:31:37
	And the residential wrap SO4D is the residential wrap around the grocery store.	00:31:43
	You'll just wanna be very careful then when you're doing so when you go back to the site plan.	00:31:50
	We might want to have that lot lined in, superimposed on it so that we can see and make sure that, umm.	00:31:56
	We're not building over the that property line. Yeah, that's a good point. That is how those lot lanes got established as we did	00:32:04
	in the overlay. And we can share that with you too. That'd be great.	00:32:09
	Uh, thank you very much because I'm still, uh, there. I can buy some.	00:32:19
	No problem, nothing on this, just you got my e-mail on umm, just kind of a.	00:32:23
	Global hydrant, you know? Yeah.	00:32:29
	All right. Thank you. OK.	00:32:32
	Thank you, Patrick. What will I go out for you?	00:32:33
	I guess one other thought, would we need a fire access through like kind of in relation to that PUE potential? Would we need a	00:32:37
	fire access, uh, easement through there as well in May, the firewall, I think it really comes out to the fire department's	00:32:41
	suppliers.	00:32:45
	Uh, on that and.	00:32:50
	Uh, with that being said, that can be done, that can be done in this days in terms of your agreement.	00:32:52
	That could be recorded.	00:32:57
	Uh, you know, it could be, uh, it could be a new class or it could be like a.	00:32:58
	Umm, like about IRP with a boundary description?	00:33:03
	As well as they uh, as well exhibit.	00:33:06
	A little bit fob here, but I don't think that's that's, that's not that long.	00:33:10
	Yeah. I think the thing that we'll weigh in more on.	00:33:14
	Accesses what we do on the other block like subsequent phases.	00:33:16
	Like we're kind of locking in this one, but.	00:33:20
	In turn, that also, you know, constrained those other blocks with.	00:33:24
	How we get in for?	00:33:28
	Fire access right now.	00:33:30
	4A4B and 4C4C is the parking.	00:33:32
	The east side of 4C is the parking lot, so access around the building is really easy.	00:33:37
	But when we come in and build 4A, it's gonna pinch down Paseo that goes between the buildings, and that's one.	00:33:43
	We'll start focusing on fire access.	00:33:50
	Do we need to drive down through the?	00:33:53
	The paseo or can we stage on both ends? That's the kind of evaluation we'll make at that point.	00:33:55
	Yeah.	00:34:01
	Well, about 3:26.	00:34:05
	That's probably the full length of four AI don't know what the length is.	00:34:07
	Guess we could add some up.	00:34:12
	It's 74 + 165.	00:34:14
	It easily seems like a fall in my mind was the.	00:34:20
	Yeah, about 2:40.	00:34:25
	Yeah, to 330-9240.	00:34:29
	Mm-hmm.	00:34:33
	Yeah, like I said, right now it should be easy.	00:34:42
	And run within 100 and.	00:34:44
	This is the center point.	00:34:47
	Hmm. Yeah, yeah. Because yeah, if it was 300, you could get on both ends and be 150 from the center.	00:34:53
	Mm-hmm.	00:35:03
	Pull all the way through, yeah.	00:35:08
	Yeah.	00:35:10
	OK.	00:35:11
	Is that higher than that spot?	00:35:13
	Yeah.	00:35:16
	Yeah, like a hydrant kind of in the middle here.	00:35:18
	Somewhere.	00:35:21
	OK.	00:35:24
	All right. Well, I think that there's not a final call and then?	00:35:27
	So this is uh.	00:35:30
	Approval of cash, Can you remind us it's a uh.	00:35:32
	Umm umm, and then you get a roll call bug or at all? I don't, I never know.	00:35:35
	Can we get we can always do it doesn't hurt. OK, so this is so we need to make a motion. OK, so that being said, uh, I'm looking	00:35:42
	for a motion.	00:35:46
	I'll move to approve. You've got to be safe to amended.	00:35:50
	Subdivision flat with the conditions.	00:35:53
	Uh, the, umm, figuring out the payment.	00:35:56
	Umm, and.	00:35:59
	What was my Oh and then that flat note about the the private St. being open to the public being added to this.	00:36:01
	Cry 4 and acquire 4/2.	00:36:08
	Umm being recorded.	00:36:10
	Umm, not necessarily.	00:36:15
	OK, I got, I got motions. I have a second.	00:36:19
	I second that motion. Thank you very much, Mr. Van.	00:36:24
	So that without being a service to go place in with a roll call vote. So, uh, cash. All right. OK, Carson.	00:36:28
	Hi, uh, Erica, hi, uh, myself.	00:36:35
	Hi, I'm done. Fine. All right, so it's passed umm by umm now so.	00:36:39
	For margin.	00:36:46
	Another slimmer than the last one. OK.	00:36:48
	Alright, thank you very much.	00:36:52
	Uh, that being said, do we have any staff, uh, Commission or committee reports?	00:36:54
	Nope. Uh, so we got nothing on here. OK, well, I appreciate that. So moving on to adjournment further rides.	00:37:01
	Just to turn this.	00:37:08
	Alright so let me ask this question does anyone have?	00:37:09
	But not once, said Jarvis.	00:37:12
	1-2 North.	00:37:15
	This name's Ben and John. Have a great day. Thank you very much.	00:37:16
	Trying to figure out the OK.	00:37:40
	How are we gonna separate the construction of that?	00:37:43