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Mayor Fullmer opened the meeting at01 PM. Councilmember Cameron gave the invocation and led the Pledge of Allegiance.             BUSINESSITEMS2.1.    VineyardCityCouncil Vacancy ThemayorandCityCouncilwillinterviewallqualifiedapplicantsandvotetoappoint a new city council member.
Mayor Fullmer opened the meeting at01 PM. Councilmember Cameron gave the invocation and led the Pledge of Allegiance.             BUSINESSITEMS2.1.    VineyardCityCouncil Vacancy ThemayorandCityCouncilwillinterviewallqualifiedapplicantsandvotetoappoint a new city council member.
City Attorney Jayme Blakesley introduced the process that would be used for appointing a new councilmember.
City Attorney Jayme Blakesley introduced the process that would be used for appointing a new councilmember.
City Recorder Pamela Spencer called each applicant in turn to introduced themselves and present their qualifications.
City Recorder Pamela Spencer called each applicant in turn to introduced themselves and present their qualifications.
1 – Ben Bernards
1 – Ben Bernards
2 – Nathan Best
2 – Nathan Best
3 – Craig Bown  – Haley Boisjolie (was not in attendance)
3 – Craig Bown  – Haley Boisjolie (was not in attendance)
5 – Brett Clawson
5 – Brett Clawson
6 – Jacob Wood
6 – Jacob Wood
7 – Caden Rhoton
7 – Caden Rhoton
8 – Daria Evans
8 – Daria Evans
9 – David Eitel
9 – David Eitel
10 – Ezra Nair
10 – Ezra Nair
11 – Chantel Amone
11 – Chantel Amone
12 – Samuel Ady
12 – Samuel Ady
13 – Anthony Jenkins
13 – Anthony Jenkins
14 – Parker McCumber
14 – Parker McCumber
15 – Keith Kuder   – Hyrum Gurrola (withdrew name from consideration)
15 – Keith Kuder   – Hyrum Gurrola (withdrew name from consideration)
17 – David Lauret
17 – David Lauret
18 – David Pearce   – David Purinton (withdrew name from consideration)
18 – David Pearce   – David Purinton (withdrew name from consideration)
20 – Kimberly Olsen
20 – Kimberly Olsen
The council took a short break. The meeting resumed at18 PM
The council took a short break. The meeting resumed at18 PM
The council voted by means of a secret ballot. The voting results were: three (3) votes for Brett Clawson (winner) and two (2) votes for Kimberly Olsen.
The council voted by means of a secret ballot. The voting results were: three (3) votes for Brett Clawson (winner) and two (2) votes for Kimberly Olsen.
Ms. Spencer swore in Brett Clawson as the new councilmember. 2.   DISCUSSIONANDACTION-MountainlandAssociationofGovernmentsCity Hall Partnership (Resolution24-34) The City Council will vote to adopt or deny Resolution24-34, authorizing city staff toproceedwithplanning,design,andpreliminaryworknecessaryforthedevelopment of a new city hall.
Ms. Spencer swore in Brett Clawson as the new councilmember. 2.   DISCUSSIONANDACTION-MountainlandAssociationofGovernmentsCity Hall Partnership (Resolution24-34) The City Council will vote to adopt or deny Resolution24-34, authorizing city staff toproceedwithplanning,design,andpreliminaryworknecessaryforthedevelopment of a new city hall.
Community Development Director Morgan Brim and Public Works Director Naseem Ghandourreviewed the process for the new City Hall.
Community Development Director Morgan Brim and Public Works Director Naseem Ghandourreviewed the process for the new City Hall.
Councilmember Sifuentes asked about the four floors of the building. Mr. Brim Reviewed. Councilmember Sifuentes asked about including a library. Mr. Brim replied that they had included in the feasibility study. He added that there had been interest in adding event spaces.
Councilmember Sifuentes asked about the four floors of the building. Mr. Brim Reviewed. Councilmember Sifuentes asked about including a library. Mr. Brim replied that they had included in the feasibility study. He added that there had been interest in adding event spaces.
Councilmember Holdaway mentioned that he had met with Lane Gray from Orem. Mayor Frost from American Fork and, the City Manager Mark Christensen and Council member Chris Carn from Saratoga Springs and reviewed the process and cost for building a new city hall. There was a discussion about the Request for Proposals (RFP) process and cost. Councilmember Sifuentes requested, for the public record, in dollar amounts how much staff had been spent on the RFP. City Manager Eric Ellis replied that they spend about $500 on putting together each RFP. The discussion continued about the RFP process and cost for building a new city hall.
Councilmember Holdaway mentioned that he had met with Lane Gray from Orem. Mayor Frost from American Fork and, the City Manager Mark Christensen and Council member Chris Carn from Saratoga Springs and reviewed the process and cost for building a new city hall. There was a discussion about the Request for Proposals (RFP) process and cost. Councilmember Sifuentes requested, for the public record, in dollar amounts how much staff had been spent on the RFP. City Manager Eric Ellis replied that they spend about $500 on putting together each RFP. The discussion continued about the RFP process and cost for building a new city hall.
There was also a discussion about saving money for a fire station.
There was also a discussion about saving money for a fire station.
The discussion continued about the RFP process and cost for building a new city hall.
The discussion continued about the RFP process and cost for building a new city hall.
There was also a discussion about a conceptual plan for a bike/skate park near Grove Park.
There was also a discussion about a conceptual plan for a bike/skate park near Grove Park.
Councilmember Sifuentes asked about the timeline for completion of the new city hall. Mr. Ellis replied that they hoping to have the new city hall completed by the end of26. The RFP process was expected to be completed by the first council meeting in January. The design process would take approximately seven (7) to ten (10) months. Mayor Fullmer recapped the timeline and then called for a motion.
Councilmember Sifuentes asked about the timeline for completion of the new city hall. Mr. Ellis replied that they hoping to have the new city hall completed by the end of26. The RFP process was expected to be completed by the first council meeting in January. The design process would take approximately seven (7) to ten (10) months. Mayor Fullmer recapped the timeline and then called for a motion.
Councilmember Holdaway mentioned funding for other projects. A discussion ensued.
Councilmember Holdaway mentioned funding for other projects. A discussion ensued.
Motion: COUNCILMEMBER SIFUENTES MOVED TO ADOPT RESOLUTION24-34 AS PRESENTED. COUNCILMEMBER CAMERON SECONDED THE MOTION.   There was a brief discussion about allowing this process to come to council.   ROLL CALL WENT AS FOLLOWS: MAYOR FULLMER, COUNCILMEMBERS CAMERON, CLAWSON, AND SIFUENTES VOTED YES. COUNCILMEMBER HOLDAWAY VOTED NO. THE MOTION CARRIED FOUR (4) TO ONE (1).            ADJOURNMENT
Motion: COUNCILMEMBER SIFUENTES MOVED TO ADOPT RESOLUTION24-34 AS PRESENTED. COUNCILMEMBER CAMERON SECONDED THE MOTION.   There was a brief discussion about allowing this process to come to council.   ROLL CALL WENT AS FOLLOWS: MAYOR FULLMER, COUNCILMEMBERS CAMERON, CLAWSON, AND SIFUENTES VOTED YES. COUNCILMEMBER HOLDAWAY VOTED NO. THE MOTION CARRIED FOUR (4) TO ONE (1).            ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Fullmer adjourned the meeting at20 PM.     MINUTES APPROVED ON:   /11/2024   CERTIFIED CORRECT BY:        Pamela Spencer, CIty Recorder
Mayor Fullmer adjourned the meeting at20 PM.     MINUTES APPROVED ON:   /11/2024   CERTIFIED CORRECT BY:        Pamela Spencer, CIty Recorder
That's a good point, Tony. 00:00:07
All right, we're going to go ahead and get started. Today is November 20th year 2/20/2024, and the time is 601. Thank you all for 00:00:26
being here tonight. As you know, we have a vacancy on the City Council of which you're all here probably mostly to come and talk 00:00:34
to us about and apply for as we say goodbye to Amber and thank her for her time. 00:00:42
We're going to start with an invocation in the Pledge of Allegiance, and then I'm going to turn some time to our attorney to guide 00:00:51
us through the process. 00:00:55
So we'll start with the invocation, yeah. 00:00:59
Our dear Father, our dear Father in heaven, we come before Thee at the beginning of this meeting and ask for the Spirit to be here 00:01:07
and for us to have peace and harmony as we make this decision, that this decision will help to. 00:01:15
Build bridges in our community and. 00:01:27
That we'll be able to move forward with the city in a way that the citizens are happy about and. 00:01:30
We ask for thy guidance and direction in all that we do and thank you for being here with us and. 00:01:42
Honor and. 00:01:48
Give glory to your name, and we say these things in the sacred name of Jesus Christ, Amen. 00:01:51
All right. 00:01:57
Repeat after me. 00:02:01
Aye. 00:02:03
Of the United States of America under God indivisible, with privacy and justice for all. 00:02:11
All right, Jamie. 00:02:22
OK. 00:02:50
I'm Jamie Blakesley. I'm the city attorney here in Vineyard. I I want to say at the outset that I I'm honored to be to play in a 00:02:52
bit part in this process. 00:02:58
And for the 20 people that put their hat in the ring, so to speak, for this position, I I am. 00:03:04
A little bit humbled by your willingness to put yourselves out there for this, and I hope that comes across in this presentation 00:03:14
simply because we've worked really hard to make sure that we've prepared for every scenario and that we can be fair to each of you 00:03:21
and your application and your candidacy for the position. 00:03:27
So I wanted to take each of you on your chair, have a long written out procedures that deals with hopefully every possible 00:03:34
scenario that we could confront tonight. But I put together a presentation so we could see it in visual form. 00:03:42
And at least be clear on how we arrived to that point, what the law requires. And I hope that gives each of you some comfort that 00:03:50
you'll be treated fairly and with the respect that your application, your candidacy deserves. 00:03:56
So anytime a vacancy occurs on a municipal elected office, the election code is in Title 28, Chapter 1, Section 510. It requires 00:04:03
that the vacancy be filled within 30 days. 00:04:10
And within that 30 day period, there has to be 14 days notice before this meeting that we're holding today. 00:04:17
There has to be a public meeting, the appointment has to be made by a majority vote of the council. That's three votes. 00:04:25
There can be no more than two rounds of voting and we'll get into some tie break scenarios at the end and I hope that we don't 00:04:31
require them, but we're prepared if we do. 00:04:36
And then the municipality has an election officer, and that's Pam Spencer, our city recorder. So if there are questions about how 00:04:42
the election code is applied, Pam is the one that makes that decision. 00:04:47
I've provided her with advice, but the decision making has been hers and that responsibility is hers. 00:04:53
The procedures that we follow to date, so the notice of vacancy was published on the 6th. There was an application deadline of the 00:05:01
15th that was set. There were 20 qualified applicants. When I made this presentation, there were 19. One withdrew. I understand 00:05:07
we've had one other withdrawal, so there were 18. 00:05:14
Applicants who are here today. 00:05:21
On the 15th, there were interview questions sent to all of the applicants. 00:05:24
And an opportunity to provide a written response to those questions. That information was received on the 18th this Monday, and it 00:05:28
was circulated to the members of the City Council simultaneously. So no count, no one council member had an advantage over others 00:05:35
of knowing what the list was or what those responses were. They did have the freedom to reach out to each of the applicants if 00:05:41
they wished. 00:05:47
To obtain more information to speak with you, and I expect each of you probably received a few phone calls in the last few days. 00:05:54
And have been busy with that. And then today on the 20th is the special meeting of the City Council where you, the council, will 00:06:01
vote to appoint a new council member. 00:06:05
Here are the procedures for the meeting today. The mayor chairs the meeting, but the city recorder is the election officer. 00:06:11
So the mayor will keep order in the meeting, but if there are decisions as to procedure or things like that, it will be the 00:06:17
election officer's decision that will control. 00:06:22
All five members of the City Council vote. 00:06:27
This is dictated by state law. The resigning member of the council votes today in this decision. It will be her last action as a 00:06:30
member of the City Council and then when the appointment is made, she will exchange seats with whoever it is that's appointed. To 00:06:38
fill that seat, the council will receive information from the candidates and perform the statutory interview in the open meeting. 00:06:46
The order of the interviews has been determined by the master ballot process. There's a section in the election code that outlines 00:06:55
the procedure for election officers to create the ballot order. You may remember from the presidential election that the two main 00:07:02
party candidates were embedded below a list of other people, and that's because that list is generated in a random way. 00:07:09
Pam followed that process and you all are seated in the master ballot order. And so she's ordered the 18 applicants one through 18 00:07:17
and we're using that order for your presentations today. And then if there is a tie break, we'll use that order to determine the 00:07:23
pairings for the the point us. Again, I hope we don't get to that point, but we're prepared if we do. And that ordering and that 00:07:29
pairing has been done in a random way so that there's no. 00:07:36
Preferential treatment for one applicant over another. 00:07:43
Each candidate will be given 3 minutes to address the City Council and then after that a vote will occur by written ballot. 00:07:46
The state statute allows only two rounds of voting. 00:07:54
So you do the first round of voting where among the 18 applicants, the members of the City Council will mark one name on the 00:07:59
ballot, and if anyone individual gets three votes, they will be the person appointed to fill the council seat. If no one person 00:08:06
gets three votes, then you go to a second round. 00:08:13
And again, if there's ties, they're decided by acquaintance. 00:08:21
So the order of the meeting will be this. Each candidate will make a 3 minute presentation. 00:08:25
There will be round one of voting Pam and Tony. Tony Lara is the deputy city recorder. They will tally the votes together. I think 00:08:31
they've set up the table here, so they'll just do it in the in the room and then if there is a tie, either a tie for first place 00:08:37
or a tie for second place. 00:08:43
Then they will have to administer a coin toss to select who moves on from those stages. I'll walk through a couple of those 00:08:50
scenarios just. 00:08:54
So that you're aware. 00:08:58
Once the candidate if if a second round of voting is required, it will be between 2:00. 00:09:00
Applicants to finalists. 00:09:07
We will give each finalist 5 minutes to present again to the council if they would like. Then there will be a second round of 00:09:09
voting again on a written ballot. The votes will be counted. If there's a tie, there will be a coin toss and that will decide who 00:09:14
the winner. 00:09:19
Is and who's appointed and seated into that seat, and the new council member will be sworn in immediately after that. 00:09:25
So on voting in the coin toss scenarios. 00:09:33
The statute calls for a coin toss. It doesn't provide any other way. It doesn't allow you to roll a dice or draw lots or do any 00:09:38
other. 00:09:42
Random selection process and coin tosses are great when you have two people that are. 00:09:47
Because there's two sides to the coin. 00:09:53
I'm not aware of a coin that has three sides or five sides. And so we had a bit of a quandary that if you could have a scenario 00:09:56
with 18 applicants where you and five voting members of the council where five people receive one vote. 00:10:04
And how do you decide that tie being fair to all 5 people? And there's another scenario where you could have three tied for 00:10:13
second. And how do you decide that? So this is how you do it. 00:10:18
And again, recognizing with five you cannot do even number pairings. So we have to you have to whittle the five first place votes 00:10:25
down to two. That would move to the second round of voting. 00:10:32
And you would have to do this through three rounds of coin tosses in these brackets where it's listed here, candidate ABC and D&E. 00:10:40
The the way those will be ordered is based on your master ballot number. So candidate A will be the lowest number. So if if 00:10:47
candidate number one, for example, were to move into the tie break with the coin toss, one would be assigned A and then whatever 00:10:54
the highest. 00:11:02
That would be E and then BCD would be ordered sequentially from that low number to the high number. 00:11:10
A&B there would be a coin toss. C&D there would be a coin toss. Whoever ends up as E would receive a buy in that first round. It's 00:11:18
regrettable that the statute says coin toss, but it does. And so with an odd number, we have to provide somebody to buy. But we 00:11:24
believe with the master ballot ordering, at least nobody is given preferential treatment by being selected for that buy. It's 00:11:30
based on that number and how it. 00:11:36
Shakes out with the voting. 00:11:43
Round two would then. 00:11:46
So you would have the winner of A&B, the winner of C&D and then round two, candidate E would go against the winner of C&D and the 00:11:49
buy in that round would go to candidate A or B, whoever won from that. We didn't want one candidate to have a buy for two rounds. 00:11:58
And so then you would go through that round two bracket until you get a winner. That person would be one of the two finalists on 00:12:07
the final ballot. And then round three would be among the four remaining applicants. And it would be either A&B or B&C against 00:12:15
each other, and then either C or D or D or E against each other. 00:12:22
I'm hoping Murphy's Law controls and where we've prepared for this scenario, we won't need it. But if we do need it, that's that's 00:12:30
the order in which it will proceed. 00:12:34
There's another scenario where you could have a coin toss between 2 applicant, 3 people tied for second place, and again you have 00:12:40
to provide one. Candidate A by AB and C again would be ordered in the same way by the random ballot order, and so the lower the 00:12:49
number would. The lowest number from that list would be candidate A. The highest number on that list would be candidate C. 00:12:57
And then you would toss between A&B and then toss between the winner of that and candidate C. 00:13:07
And then that person would be the second person put on the ballot again, I hope, because we're prepared that Murphy's level 00:13:13
control and we won't need it. But if we do need it, that's how we'll do it, and I've prepared. 00:13:19
A really high tech document that we can fill in when, when, if we get to that point. 00:13:27
So and then voting for Round 2 will proceed and again for for round one. 00:13:36
It's not fair to any applicant to have to be here until midnight, and so we had to limit the time for each person to present. 00:13:43
That's why we did 3 minutes with as many applicants as we have. We think even with three minutes, it'll end up being, you know, 90 00:13:49
minutes to 2 hours before we're finished. 00:13:55
With that process, but for the second round where you only have two applicants, we thought a little more time was appropriate and 00:14:02
so there's 5 minutes per. 00:14:05
Per finalist for those last two, if we get to that point. 00:14:12
And then at the end, again, the winner will be appointed. So I will leave this up on the screen just so everybody can see it for 00:14:16
the time being. I think there are a couple of applicants that are joining remotely and so I may need to pull it down if we get to 00:14:22
that point. But then you'll at least have a road map of. 00:14:27
Of the order of the proceeding and I hope at least with the presentation that you understand the level of thought that went into 00:14:34
this and that we we really want fairness to control and for each of you who have. 00:14:41
Been willing to put yourselves out for this office that you'll be treated fairly and and as we go through this. 00:14:50
Thank you, Mayor. 00:14:58
All right, with that, we'll go ahead and start an all have plan, get things set up and then pay. 00:15:01
Give us just a minute. 00:15:11
You know, it's never counseling meeting. 00:15:59
And we all have. 00:16:02
We have it set up, we're ready so. 00:16:05
Oh, let me do it. 00:16:17
OK. 00:16:28
Thank you. OK, So make sure you guys stay muted until everybody's going to sign the number. 00:16:37
Besides the master ballot order, Pam, do you want me to tell you to speak into the microphone? 00:16:47
You know what? Yeah, I'll snap. 00:16:55
Something for the record. 00:16:58
Good cat, good call. Good call. 00:17:02
I'm calling you on it. You call me on it. It's great. I love it. 00:17:06
Might be a little stressful tonight, who knows what it is. So anyway, everybody was assigned a number, so we'll call you up in 00:17:10
your number order. 00:17:14
As you're seated in your your number order so that you kind of should know who's next, but I'm going to go ahead and let you come 00:17:20
up. You will get the three minutes. Tony will set the timer for each one. Once you start talking and you introduce yourselves, 00:17:27
introduce yourself and then present your qualifications and why you feel like you want to be on the council. It's kind of just 00:17:34
like answering those three questions that we sent that I sent out to you if you want to repeat that information. 00:17:41
Feel free to do that because that would be very helpful. 00:17:49
So with that, let's get started, shall we? So for number one, we have Ben Bernard's. 00:17:54
So come on up to the lectern over here. Podium if you're in Utah, right? 00:18:01
So, Tony, we good. OK. Thank you all for your time. My name is Ben Bernards. The reason why I feel like I'd be a good fit for this 00:18:07
position is given my experience. I spent almost the last 15 years of my career working in construction and project management. 00:18:15
I currently work at one of the top 15 ranked electrical contractors in the country. We did the new airport, new prison here in 00:18:25
Utah, as well as various other projects across the country and even worldwide. 00:18:31
Um, and my role with them is purchasing on logistics. So I understand how things flow, what what needs to be done to get these 00:18:37
projects done quickly. And with that, working with a lot of different, various types of people, you know, engineers, tradesmen, 00:18:45
board members. So I'm really familiar with working on a team and solving solutions on these complicated projects that we have. 00:18:53
And I also currently serve as the president of the Lakefront HOA Townhome Board. 00:19:01
So I understand the CC and Rs and the zonings and for all that, the reason why I want to be involved is, you know, I've been 00:19:07
critical of leadership in the past and I apologize if I came off aggressive. 00:19:14
But I realize I need to be part of the solution instead of just creating problems and that's what I want to do. And I feel like 00:19:23
the people and where I live in lakefront, the surrounding areas, they feel a little under represent underrepresented. And 00:19:30
especially with what's going on North End of the city and new developments coming in, I feel like I can be a good bridge for that 00:19:37
community and with my experience and and what I deal with on a daily basis. 00:19:43
I can be a liaison for them and explain to them. 00:19:51
Kind of process of how things work. And I know the development, we're not going to stop the development happening, but I think we 00:19:54
can do it in a smart way, in a way that people feel like they don't have to leave and because they don't want to be around it. And 00:20:00
we want to create a place where people feel comfortable and they want to raise their family and be a part of that. Even the people 00:20:07
moving into the new development North End of town, we want them to feel the same way. 00:20:13
So I want to be that bridge for people and I want to create more unity and positivity in our community and and be that person that 00:20:21
they can reach out to if they see issues. And I have skin in the game since I live there and I can voice those and bring them and 00:20:27
hopefully solve some of the problems that we face. 00:20:34
And justice, be a voice of unity and positivity for us. That's all I have. 00:20:41
Thanks. Thank you so much. Thank you. OK, Tony, give him a second to reset #2 Nathan Best. 00:20:44
Come on down. 00:20:54
I'm Nathan Best and I spent most of my adult life volunteering. 00:21:00
And serving in one way or another, whether it be in church callings, whether it be in councils, whether it be coaching youth and 00:21:07
high school sports. I've even spent several years as a personal growth and motivational coach, working with adults and different 00:21:14
groups of people to find those things in their lives and businesses that hold them back. 00:21:20
And then coaching them into overcoming those roadblocks, setting new goals and then achieving those goals and many times exceeding 00:21:29
those goals that they had set. 00:21:33
Now that my children are grown and I'm not involved with the sports anymore, I hope that it's only natural that I shift and get 00:21:38
back to this community and city that I've come to live in the five years that I've been here. 00:21:44
I served on athletic committees and boards, being the president of the freshman American Fork Youth Football Program when the 00:21:51
Cougar Conference was disbanded. I also served as a committee member of the Pleasant Grove Youth Lacrosse Board. 00:21:57
And I believe that successful high school sports begin with successful youth programs. I'd like to see Vineyard youth activities 00:22:05
and sports programs grow and expand and not be so dependent upon Orem City. 00:22:10
Then eventually stand on its own and nurture young boys and girls and become a productive adults who have pride in their 00:22:16
community. 00:22:20
One of my degrees in technology management from Utah Valley University has really ended up being more of a business degree. 00:22:25
It's taught me the importance of finances planning as well as finding your moving bottlenecks. 00:22:32
And improving efficiency. I'm a small business owner and created and managed several businesses and believe that small business 00:22:37
and local businesses are the backbone of our country. It's important that Vineyard City attracts businesses that will contribute 00:22:43
positively to our community and also businesses that want to be our partners and that want to stay and grow with us. 00:22:49
Having family members and friends who are first responders in Orem and Utah County means that public safety is also important to 00:22:56
me. Marrying a retired Orem City firefighter has only increased my awareness of the things that are faced day by day by those 00:23:02
first responders. It's important that we make sure our firefighters and law enforcement have the tools that they need to keep our 00:23:07
communities safe. 00:23:13
And having our own fire station within city limits I think is a great start. 00:23:20
I have no pre-existing relationships with anyone on the council. I also have no conflicts of interest. It would disqualify 00:23:25
disqualify me from holding this position. 00:23:29
And political terminology, I believe that makes me an outsider, being a blank split, a blank slate as far as Vineyard politics go. 00:23:34
And as someone who doesn't have an extra grind or preconceived points of view on things, I feel that I can bring a fresh set of 00:23:40
eyes to the issues facing our city. 00:23:45
My desire to research and make informed decisions that benefit the city and ultimately its residents, as well as my ability to 00:23:51
remain neutral and work with other people would be a great benefit to the council. Thank you. 00:23:56
OK. 00:24:02
#3 Craig. 00:24:06
All right. 00:24:10
Hello there. 00:24:12
My name is Craig Brown. 00:24:14
I just have to acknowledge I am nervous as all get out for some reason. I can talk to anybody and anybody give them time of the 00:24:18
day but you put 3 minutes in front of me and I feel like this is an undoable task. But thank you guys for going before me taking 00:24:23
out some of the time. 00:24:29
My intentions to serve. 00:24:37
Well, qualification based I guess, right. So I'll keep to that. So I had a quick decision a couple weeks ago when this came about. 00:24:42
I wouldn't have ever thought that I would. 00:24:46
Want to be on City Council? 00:24:52
But as part of acknowledging personal progress and, and, and understanding the value that I have at work, I think I would like to 00:24:55
apply those things to being on the City Council. I have a background in environmental analysis and in transportation planning for 00:25:04
big U dot projects. I feel like those things have taught me to think critically, to look for more of a. 00:25:13
A middle ground for things to be able to still get the project done because you always run up any big problems with those. 00:25:22
Umm, my main point of focus, regardless of how I sound tonight is I take hard, complex things from engineering speak and make them 00:25:29
easily to understand for the public. And I feel like being on the council, that's really your role is to try to help provide good 00:25:37
decisions, help in contributing decisions and provide transparency to the planning process and to, to. 00:25:45
The hard issues. 00:25:54
And so I feel like that I want to be able to help and serve the neighbors here and be able to help do that. I did spend a little 00:25:56
bit of time on the Planning Commission and this is kind of what's driven. I actually ended up withdrawing after a year because I 00:26:04
felt like I wasn't able to provide good enough reviews for the gravity of the decisions to make. And so to no fault of city staff 00:26:11
or anything, they are more than willing to try to help me figure those things out. I just didn't even know the questions to ask. 00:26:18
And so one of the things that I'd like to focus on, if given the opportunity to serve for a year, is to be able to try to help 00:26:26
provide more transparency, to try to break down the things for the public to give City Council and Planning Commission more of. 00:26:33
A time frame really to to look things over and to make those harder decisions. 00:26:42
Umm, and honestly, I just I think it would be, you know, the year time frame is perfect. Who knows if I want even want to do this 00:26:48
any longer, right? And so Amber, thank you for making it a year. 00:26:55
Yeah, somebody. So that's it. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you. Is Haley here? 00:27:03
OK, we're going to skip Haley. Sorry, we didn't. 00:27:10
Trying to find out where she is so. 00:27:14
So we're going to move to #5 Brett Clausen. 00:27:16
Good evening. Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to share my qualifications and vision for serving on the City Council. 00:27:24
My name is Brett Clawson and I've been a Vineyard resident since early 2018. 00:27:33
And after speaking with each of you, I'm committed to. 00:27:38
I'm committed to dedicating the time to ensure that I fulfill the Council's responsibilities, but also proactively bring forward 00:27:46
solutions that address the needs of our evolving community. 00:27:52
I believe you've all reviewed my qualifications, so I'd like to focus more on how those qualifications directly apply to being on 00:27:59
the City Council. 00:28:03
My experience requires long term planning to secure the future. 00:28:08
Addressing unexpected current challenges. Collaboration across diverse stakeholders. 00:28:12
With differing opinions and building consensus through open discussion and compromise. In addition, while not at a city level, I 00:28:18
have first hand experience in community governance. 00:28:24
As I served as a member of the Flower Hill HOA, which at the time when I served was the second largest HOA in the county where it 00:28:31
was. 00:28:35
And as part of that responsibility, reviewed budgets and prioritized resident impact when doing so. 00:28:40
And I think that those are skills that directly translate to being on the council and serving our citizens. 00:28:47
I believe that our Council values proactive leadership. 00:28:56
And I share that value. 00:29:01
I respect the responsibility of filling an elected council member seat. 00:29:03
And to intend to honor Mr. Rasmussen's priorities, as well as some of the priorities that each of you have conveyed to me. 00:29:06
We have a common constituency and whoever fills the seat should recognize the weight of that responsibility. 00:29:15
Therefore, my priorities include advancing transportation improvements, supporting community programs like the Community garden, 00:29:23
and bicycle advisory. 00:29:27
Fostering economic development to improve our tax base. 00:29:35
But I believe that economic growth must be balanced with fiscal responsibility, and I believe that my experience prepares me 00:29:38
specifically to address today's challenges while preparing for tomorrow's needs. 00:29:43
I've been inspired by the recent emphasis on listening and collaboration. 00:29:50
For example. 00:29:55
Veneers, parking issues do not affect me directly. 00:29:56
However, after the attending last week's meeting on parking, I realized that this is a citywide challenge with safety and economic 00:30:01
implications, and I believe that that shows that I'm willing to learn new things and change my perspective as I do so. 00:30:09
And I believe that my qualifications put me in a good position to serve. And I thank you for considering my candidacy. 00:30:18
Thank you, Brett. Hey, 6 Jacob. 00:30:27
Hello, I'm Jacob Wood. 00:30:36
From 23 years old, I appreciate the chance to interview for the City Council vacancy. I appreciate this opportunity. 00:30:39
A little bit about me. I founded a tech company specializing in app and web development. I've developed over hundreds of websites 00:30:46
and created over 50 apps. Along the way, I've gained viable skills in communication, negotiation, negotiation, and problem 00:30:51
solving. 00:30:55
Which have been essential in navigating complex challenges and delivering results. My experience has taught me how to innovate and 00:31:01
adapt in a fast-paced, ever changing industry. 00:31:05
Years ago, I created a nonprofit called Innovate Health Initiative dedicated to dedicated towards educating youth about the 00:31:10
dangers of vaping and empowering them with accurate information. I started this organization to address a growing beeping crisis 00:31:16
and advocate for stronger legislation to restrict youth access to vaping. 00:31:22
Amongst the football coach at Malviya High School. 00:31:30
I've loved helping young men of this community grow on and off the film. If you have any boys interested in playing next year. 00:31:32
We need them, we need them, so hopefully next will be better. 00:31:41
But I loved it. It was great. 00:31:46
As I said at the beginning, I'm 22 years old, but I've experienced, seeing and been through things no my age has. 00:31:49
But it's only made me stronger, more humble. 00:32:01
It's giving me a deep sense of perspective on what matters. 00:32:04
And his perspective I'm committed to bringing to the City Council. 00:32:09
I often look at the sunsets and I don't believe there's a day. 00:32:14
I haven't seen one over that lake. Each sunset carries with a deep sense of hope, peace, offering a moment of reflection that 00:32:17
reminds me no matter the struggles, there's always hope on the horizon. 00:32:23
I plan on bringing unity to the city and that's the main reason I want to fill this bank is on the City Council. 00:32:31
I believe unity is vital for progress and I'm committed to bringing an open mind, a willingness to speak my mind, and a readiness 00:32:37
to change my mind when needed. 00:32:42
It doesn't matter how flat you make a pancake, there's always two sides. Unity starts with listening, and above all else, I'm 00:32:47
committed to being a listener. 00:32:51
And valuing the voices and perspectives of everyone in our community. 00:32:57
The second reason I want to 30 City Council, City Council agencies to broaden our city's tax base by track, by attracting legacy 00:33:01
companies with a proven track record of success. My goal is to make Vineyard a hub for companies of proven history of success, 00:33:07
creating a thriving environment that attractedness is capable of driving long term growth and prosperity for the city. 00:33:14
To close, this is my home. I love my home. I want my home to thrive. I want my home to be successful and I committed to dedicate 00:33:21
my trend to healing and letting the devise a standard way of its progress. So I'm asking member City Council to fill this vacancy 00:33:28
of both fill this vacancy of change. I appreciate the opportunity. Thank you. 00:33:35
OK. Thank you. So #7 with Hayden Rd. 00:33:44
Good evening. 00:33:52
Good evening. Thank you to the mayor and City Council for meeting with us tonight, and thank you to everyone else who's here, 00:33:53
whether you're here as a candidate or here to learn about the candidates. I applaud you and I'm grateful for your attendance. I've 00:33:59
long believed that involvement on a local level is what makes great communities, and I encourage everyone here to please not make 00:34:05
this your last movie. Keep coming. You can keep voicing your opinions. We need it. 00:34:10
Lastly, I ran for a seat on this council last year. 00:35:15
In that election I was not elected to one of the two empty seats, but I did receive the third most total votes, behind only 00:35:43
council members Holdaway and Cameron respectively. 00:35:47
I bring this up because I've had conversations with each of you, and I believe you strive to represent your constituents and act 00:35:53
in a manner that reflects what choice they would make if they were in your shoes. Next year, the city will be able to vote again, 00:35:57
but with the information we received last year, you can feel confident that my appointment aligns with the will of the significant 00:36:02
portion of the news voters. 00:36:07
My priorities will center around fiscal management, transportation and parking, economic development, and effective planning. More 00:36:12
than anything, I will prioritize action. I believe that Vineyard residents want to see their representatives working for them and 00:36:17
for their families. And I will work to make the most out of the year left on Amber's term and do all I can to make her and Vinegar 00:36:22
residents proud. Thank you. 00:36:27
Thank you. 00:36:33
King sorry #8 Daria. 00:36:37
Thank you. My name is Daria Evans and I am grateful for this opportunity to present myself before you, the mayor, the City 00:36:46
Council, the staff and the public as a candidate to fulfill the vacancy of Amber Rasmussen's council seat. Thank you also, Amber. 00:36:54
My husband and I rest, my husband rest and I have been Vineyard residents since June of 2020. We also have a son and a 00:37:04
daughter-in-law and two grandchildren that reside in Vineyard and call it home. Our Vineyards community is like an Oasis and it's 00:37:10
the growing. 00:37:17
Of Vineyard and I love Vineyard and I would love to be a part of its future. Russ and I feel safe and secure here and my desire is 00:37:25
to promote responsible growth in economic development while ensuring quality of life for Vineyards residents. 00:37:33
As you know, I have been regularly attending City Council and Planning Commission meetings. 00:37:42
I reviewed the agendas, the agenda packets, I make notes, I share my concerns. I express my gratitude for the good things 00:37:49
happening in our city. I also asked pertinent questions and shared solutions which the Planning Commission and City Council have 00:37:55
implemented. Some of those, and because I have already shown my commitment to attendance at Planning Commission and City Council 00:38:02
meetings, I am ready to commit to fulfill. 00:38:09
The remainder of Council and Erasmus and Term. 00:38:16
I have participated in vineyard cleanup days, I have helped to clean up the community garden at Sunset Beach. I have Russ and I 00:38:22
have participated in senior recreation activities. I report concerns and issues to the city website. I am active on my own HOA. I 00:38:29
understand the concerns of our senior citizens. 00:38:37
I have developed compassion and empathy for those with disabilities because of my own cerebral palsy. 00:38:45
As a council member, my goals would be to resolve parking issues and ensure sufficient parking in new developments. Attract 00:38:53
established businesses to Vineyard to increase our tax base. Advance the extension of 400 N for another East West thoroughfare. 00:39:02
Listen, genuinely listen to the voices of our residents. Advocate development of the Forge. 00:39:11
Ensure that city funds are wisely spent. Promote transparency. 00:39:20
Better transparency in city government. There may be other candidates more qualified than me to fill this vacancy. However, being 00:39:25
the most qualified is not does not always translate to being the right person. I believe I am the right person. Thank you very 00:39:32
much for your consideration. 00:39:38
Thank you. 00:39:46
Hey, pardon. Oh, yeah, yeah. So our next one is #9 David Edel, can you unmute yourself, please, David? And. 00:39:48
Thank you. 00:39:59
Oops. 00:40:07
Apologize for not being there in person. Unfortunately I yeah, I conference and speak this week so hopefully the virtual presence. 00:40:10
My message for those of you who don't know me, my name is David Tell. I've been with the city in 2018. I live in Westbrook, the 00:40:18
Harvest City, so. 00:40:25
I come from a background in healthcare. I vote for healthcare for the last 10 years. 00:40:35
In various rules ranging from West Chronic therapy, where I work clinically, and now even in healthcare technology, one thing I 00:40:40
had to learn that role was how to manage a lot of different priorities and projects, how to work with a lot of different teams. In 00:40:48
the same 10 years that I've worked at Inner Mountains, I've also worked as an adjunct faculty member at UVU and didn't guest 00:40:55
lectures at the number of colleges in the area as well as represented at my profession, both state level and nationally. 00:41:02
I'm just to help grow and expand therapy. These are all qualifications that I think helped me, would help me as a City Council 00:41:11
member as well as someone who is looking at the future and its growth, especially with the clients for future medical campuses 00:41:20
that are coming into our city. I am interested in this role, frankly, because of my connections to the community. 00:41:30
I've been here for five years and kind of every city public event. I've enjoyed our summer concerts are really nice and enjoyed 00:41:40
walking the streets. I'll be here on my on my weekly exercises. So I feel really attached to the city as well as the community. 00:41:47
One reason that I applied for this position is just to help represent and fulfill the community screens for measured growth and 00:41:54
managed growth in our city. 00:42:01
I think that there's a lot of qualified applicants tonight. Honestly, I'm humbled by the the people that have raised their hands 00:42:09
and are are very qualified to discuss. So lucky to just be among them. 00:42:15
I was on the committee, I would in the the terms late one year. I wouldn't want to go crazy with ideas or or massive changes to 00:42:22
things. One thing that you learn with your experience in Healthcare is that besieged the success starts small and they start 00:42:28
early. I think there's a lot of things going on in the city right now that will have text in the next four to five years and if 00:42:34
you want the next decade. 00:42:40
Making sure this decision is filled and that the City Council works to kind of plan future city. 00:42:47
Community is very important and I October fills that role. Take that seriously. That's all I have. Thank you. 00:42:54
Sorry about your name. 00:43:03
That's OK, I bet you get that all the time, right? I keep knocking the camera over. I'm so sorry. It does not want to sit. 00:43:07
OK. All right. If you want to mute yourself, David, that would be great. Thank you. OK, so #10 is. 00:43:17
Hi, I'm Mezzanair. I live in the Windsor neighborhood. I served as the former city manager of this this great city that I love and 00:43:26
I'm currently the county administrator. I have a master's in public administration from Brigham Young University and I think my 00:43:33
qualifications and, and my resume speaks for itself for, for a number of reasons, but I wanted to take this time 3 minutes is not 00:43:40
a lot of time to to. 00:43:47
Make a decision based off just a small 3 minute speech. But I wanted to share why I love this city so much. 00:43:55
This city has been here for me. 00:44:03
My entire time that I've been here, the people here are so incredible. And if you'd look at what people have to say about the city 00:44:06
on Facebook, you might get a different opinion. But here we, we don't actually experience that. I feel so much love in this room 00:44:14
and I'm so grateful that so many people in this room are committed to working together regardless of differences of opinion. 00:44:23
And that we can have the city be the unified city that it was when I moved in here, quite frankly. 00:44:32
Four years ago when I moved in, things looked a lot different and I'm just glad that we have such a wonderful group of people who 00:44:38
are running who? 00:44:43
Are committed to that and I'm so grateful for all of your service. Amber, I'm so grateful for your service. Thank you so much, 00:44:49
Jake. I'm grateful that you called me and said you're willing to talk and willing to meet. There's been a lot of things said about 00:44:55
me online that I that's just not true, but I'm happy to address any of that. 00:45:01
And I'm just so honored to be here and to be able to be considered. I hope that my experience and my qualifications can can help 00:45:38
the City Council move forward in a unified direction where we all make decisions for the right reasons. I'm not on anyone's team. 00:45:44
I'm not Team Jake, Team Julie, I'm just Team Vineyard. So thank you. 00:45:51
Thank you. 00:45:58
OK #11 with Chantelle. 00:46:00
And I'm not going to butcher your life. You're totally fine. Hello, my name is Chantal Money. Just a little introduction on 00:46:03
myself. I grew up here in Orem, Although it felt like I grew up in Vineyard because the neighborhood I grew up in is right next to 00:46:10
Shade Home and Garden. So I attended local schools such as Vineyard Elementary, Lakers Junior High and Mountain View High School. 00:46:18
So I haven't gone too far from home, and I've always considered this area home for me. I'm happily married with four children. 00:46:25
And my family and I have called Vineyard home for nearly eight years. First we lived in Providence and then Bridgeport and now in 00:46:34
the Hampton neighborhood. Vineyard is truly where my heart is and we're excited to continue to live here for many years to come. I 00:46:41
graduated from Utah Valley University with a degree in hospitality management and a minor in accounting. I have the I have the 00:46:48
opportunity to interview intern with JetBlue Airways for two years, where I work closely with people from all around the world. 00:46:55
Gaining valuable insight to into diverse perspectives and experiences. For the past eight years, I've worked with a real estate 00:47:02
appraising firm helping appraise residential and commercial properties across multiple counties including Utah, Salt Lake, 00:47:11
Wasatch, Summit, Duap, San Pete and Washington counties. This role has allowed me to develop the expertise. 00:47:19
In learning property taxes, zoning, city codes, planning, NCC and Rs, all of which are essential when making informed decisions. 00:47:28
Of our city My background in real estate appraising gives me a unique perspective on issues that affect vineyard I understand 00:47:35
property values, market trends and land use policies, which are crucial when it comes to city development and growth This 00:47:42
knowledge will be invaluable and evaluating projects, zoning changes and ensuring that new developments benefit our community I am 00:47:50
also equipped to make data-driven decisions on property taxes, infrastructure and affordable housing, helping ensure that our. 00:47:57
Are fair, financially sustainable, and work for everyone in our city. Beyond my professional background, I'm deeply involved in 00:48:05
our community. I am passionate about giving, about keeping our citizens informed and connected, and I'm committed to bridging any 00:48:12
gaps to ensure that everyone's voice is heard as a community. As our community grows, Vineyard is a place I love call home, and it 00:48:19
would be an honor to serve on the City Council to help preserve the welcoming, peaceful atmosphere about our city. 00:48:26
Has such a great place. 00:48:34
And a great place to live. Thank you so much. 00:48:37
Thank you. OK, next we have Sam and I might butcher your last name too. He is also online, so if you'd like to unmute yourself, 00:48:41
we'll give you 3 minutes starting now. 00:48:46
Thanks Pam. 00:48:52
Everybody, I'm Sammy. It's a little bit dark here because I'm currently in Europe. 00:48:54
Back story on that, I got married four months after getting back from my mission and I'm currently on the first trip back with my 00:49:01
wife in 18 years. We get three nights in Budapest. I'm sending one of the material, so I hope you sure appreciate it. 00:49:10
I do need to clear the air a little bit of conflict of interest because I was I did coach the mayor's son and I did have to tell 00:49:21
her just how how good he was at soccer. 00:49:26
But other than that. 00:49:32
I'm a Vineyard resident, much like the other City Council members and the other people here tonight. I have kids and I just want 00:49:35
the city to be the best place for them is because it feels like it has been thus far. I just want to have it kind of continue on 00:49:42
on that path. 00:49:48
I currently work for a company that most of you have heard of called Apple where I run analytics on the App Store. So where all 00:49:56
you get to your team crushes. 00:50:02
Analytics has really made me love numbers and just breaking stuff down. And so when I was hearing what's going to happen in this 00:50:13
type of what my eyes are really exciting coming up soon. 00:50:19
Which ends up getting split, which when there's a, you know, how many of us 2018 something like that, you know, you're a 5% chance 00:50:26
in getting votes and then to get 2 votes you're breaking down instead of 1/4 of a percentage of if you don't want to have a chance 00:50:33
of getting three votes. But it's, it's not great for any one of us. 00:50:40
What I what I really love, though, is how big is taken out an ambitious approach at expansion and and building a haven for for 00:50:51
families and for people alike. We. 00:50:57
I want to be part of that movement outside of just, you know, coaching Julie's gift. So I probably, I don't mind having the ring 00:51:04
and, and give myself a shot. And yeah. 00:51:09
Is that it? OK. 00:51:21
Thank you. OK, thank you. If you mute yourself, I really appreciate it. 00:51:23
OK #13 is Anthony Jacobs, so you will start your 3 minutes now. 00:51:28
Good evening Council members. Thanks for making time for this process and for accommodating those of us that are in darker places. 00:51:39
I'm in Washington DC right now, but I'm encouraged to see several qualified candidates who also want to help the city 1st, and I 00:51:45
can personally vouch for the character of communities applicants as well. I also think the city may have identified the new 00:51:51
revenue streams with 20 applicants paying a $35 application. 00:51:57
But my name is Anthony Patience. I'm a nine year Vineyard resident. 00:52:08
Seminar and Parkside neighborhood and I'm deeply committed to this community success. I grew up in this area in Orem and I choose 00:52:13
to live here with my remote and flexible work arrangement. 00:52:18
My background uniquely listen to me to serve effectively on the City Council, starting with my professional background. I'm 00:52:26
currently a product manager at Amazon and with extensive experience in procurement and efficiency for government organizations. I 00:52:33
think that's the different community well for a role like this. I previously lived in Seattle and Albuquerque and it worked for 00:52:40
Lockheed Martin while at Sandia National Lab at Air Force Base and with Honeywell Aerospace out of Kansas City. 00:52:47
And I bring a strategic approach to the fighting and procurement optimization of my current roles. Or in other words, helping 00:52:55
people use tax dollars. More likely, the technique is very much needed in any local government. 00:53:00
Right now, in fact, I'm in DC and I just presented with many federal agency leaders on how to be more efficient with their future 00:53:07
interactions. 00:53:11
My local government experience is also very substantial with my Vineyard service as well. After eight years on the Vineyard 00:53:14
Clients Commission and was appointed initially by the former predecessors Mayor farm work when I first moved in and I currently 00:53:21
share the active Transportation Commission and these roles have given me an intimate knowledge of our city's operational dynamics 00:53:27
and challenges and everything in between. 00:53:33
My educational background I was a bachelor's degree in geography and masters degree in public administration from BYU, and this 00:53:40
provides me with the analytical field and theoretical framework that's needed for municipal leadership. 00:53:46
So as far as my priorities go, I just understand all you want to Vineyard resident and disappointed. My priorities would be based 00:53:54
on what I've heard and observed and those are very clear. I first want to prioritize resident safety and basic needs, which means 00:54:00
reliable infrastructure, maintain public services like clean water, and creating an environment where all citizens can thrive. 00:54:07
Second, I promote physical responsibility and transparency, which I know many others were committed to as well and I. 00:54:14
Cost cutting measures before considering any tax increases, but also ensuring complete transparency in our budget process and 00:54:22
then, third, strategic economic development. 00:54:27
Unless they'll help and follow up and collaborate with you have given the opportunity. Thank you, thank you. 00:54:33
Thank you, Anthony. 00:54:41
Go ahead and mute yourself. Thank you. 00:54:43
OK #14 we have Parker one of my butcher years trip Mumbai. I would have gotten that one right. 00:54:45
Good evening, Mayor Fuller Council Vineyard residents, thank you for the opportunity to address you tonight. My name is Parker 00:54:57
Mccumber, and I'm grateful to be amongst many passionate individuals who are committed to service. 00:55:04
I am an Army trained rocket scientist turned entrepreneur. I bring a strong background in organizational leadership rooted in both 00:55:11
my military and business experiences. Currently, I serve as a Field Artillery Battery commander in Spanish Fork where I have the 00:55:18
privilege to lead 100 soldiers and have stewardship of over roughly $25 million of government equipment and resources. 00:55:25
This role has refined my ability to manage operations, lead teams, and ensure accountability at every level. 00:55:33
In addition to military service, I'm an entrepreneur who employs roughly two dozen employees across multiple businesses in 00:55:41
multiple market sectors. My ventures and entrepreneurship have taught me the value of fiscal discipline, operational efficiency, 00:55:48
and creating opportunities for growth. I feel all of these are critical to serving the residents of Vineyard. 00:55:55
Complementing my professional experience is my formal education. 00:56:03
I hold a Master of Business Administration and I'm currently pursuing a Doctorate of Business Administration with emphasis in 00:56:07
Organizational leadership. This education paired with my skill set in organizational leadership, operations management, and 00:56:14
financial literacy creates a potent combination that uniquely positions me to contribute to vineyards growth and success. 00:56:21
I am equipped to critically assess policies. 00:56:29
Identify and correct inefficiencies and implement strategies that will maximize the cities resources while minimizing the 00:56:33
financial burden on the residents. 00:56:38
Beyond my professional and academic qualifications, over the past two years have been published dozens of times in national and 00:56:44
regional outlets and have appeared on national radio and television to discuss political and economic policies. These experiences 00:56:52
showcase my ability to assess complex issues, communicate effectively, and propose actionable and practical solutions. 00:56:59
As a Vineyard resident, I'm deeply invested in the community. 00:57:08
I have volunteered as a high school football coach since 2016, mentoring young athletes and instilling values of teamwork, 00:57:12
discipline and leadership. This role has reinforced my belief that our service isn't just about making decisions, but it is about 00:57:17
building relationships and strengthening the community. I would like to leverage my appointment to the City Council to foster 00:57:22
mentorship for our youth. 00:57:28
I believe my combined experience in leadership, business, and education positions me to bring a valuable perspective to the City 00:57:35
Council. My goal is to ensure financial responsibility, smart growth, and innovative solutions to the challenges that our city 00:57:40
faces. I'm committed to serving Vineyard with transparency and efficiency. Thank you for your time and thank you for considering 00:57:45
my application. 00:57:51
Thank you. All right, look at that. Keith Moses next. 00:57:59
Thank you, council. My name is Keith Cooter and I moved here to Vineyard with my wife Brianne shortly after we got married to 00:58:05
Norm. We love Cascade. We love Vineyard. I'm a I'm a son of a legal immigrant that came to the United States from Colombia. I love 00:58:12
living in Utah and living the American dream. I'm currently employed at Tesla by Elon Musk. 00:58:19
I currently work with stakeholders throughout the state running campaigns, consulting them. 00:58:28
State school board. 00:58:33
State Treasurer. 00:58:35
County Commissioner. City Council members. 00:58:37
I love our community and I love Vineyard. My family used to come to Vineyard years ago, hunting pheasants on the Holdaway 00:58:41
farmland. 00:58:45
My father-in-law wife's cousin, his ex-wife. 00:58:51
Is Mayor Randy Farnsworth. 00:58:55
I support easing the process for our residents to have accessory apartments, balancing the property rights with reasonable zoning 00:58:59
policies. I advocate for clear communication and thoughtful planning that we come together as a City Council and we work things 00:59:05
out effectively. 00:59:11
And we exercise patience. 00:59:18
We need to plan ahead, but thinking ahead, I know that we're trying to create the perfect utopia with Utah City. Sometimes things 00:59:21
don't work, which is why you end up with a suburban sprawl. So I would propose that we plan for plan for the worst. 00:59:30
And get the best results. 00:59:40
And that's when I've been able to do what stakeholders throughout the state. 00:59:42
I believe in fair incentives for developers, ensuring they benefit the community without creating crony capitalism. 00:59:47
I commit to making decisions for the benefit of all residents, not just a select few. Now, I can tell you right now I have no 00:59:54
particular agenda other than I've helped stakeholders for education, I've worked for Stronger Together. I've worked for Ada 01:00:01
Wilson, I've worked for Cole Kelly, I work for Prop 11, I work for Prop 14. I care about our future and the fact that we're moving 01:00:09
forward with the future school district here in our community. 01:00:16
Now, I don't want to be the person who's sucking all the air and oxygen in the room and going to the press about certain matters. 01:00:25
We need to work collectively as one body as we are moving forward as one of the greatest communities in this state that people 01:00:33
look upon and read on in the press and see good things from our mayor and the sacrifices that Amber has done for our community. 01:00:41
We should be acquiring the efforts that Amber is done, inserting our community, not reading toxic things in the press. 01:00:50
I'm sorry, I'm getting the most. I love vineyard. Thank you all for serving. I'm honored just to be here with other individuals. 01:01:00
Thank you, thank you, Ken, thank you, Keith. Okay, our #16 Hiram, you withdrew tonight just before the meeting, so we're going to 01:01:06
move on to #17 David Loray. 01:01:12
Mayor and council howdy. 01:01:28
Glad to be able to see you again. Talk to you again. 01:01:30
As you know, I've been attending council meetings for their part 10 years I've been here and also Planning Commission meetings. 01:01:34
I've probably been to more of them than I've missed and I appreciate the chance to do that. And I want to especially take a minute 01:01:39
to say thank you to Amber for your service. 01:01:44
I understand it's been rough and I appreciate the extra effort. Thank you. 01:01:49
So one of my qualifications. 01:01:54
Well, I've been here doing things. I've been, I attended meetings. I've been all probably the only citizen to come from the RDA 01:01:58
meetings. 01:02:00
And when I'm up on all the aspects of the things are before the city. 01:02:04
I've also worked with the Arts Commission. I've been before the bicycle Commission and presented to them also as part of the 01:02:11
Heritage Commission before it was resolved, and so I've had experience working with the city government. 01:02:17
I also, you know, I let a petition drive to work through the, the traffic calming procedure. The city is established to, to, to 01:02:24
make a bicycle, a Blvd. on Hallway Rd. that's in process. That's actually part of that actually transportation plan now. And, and 01:02:30
I thought there's some money in the budget this year to help work on it. That's I'm excited about that. 01:02:36
Looking forward to seeing that happen. 01:02:43
So I've also, I also serve on the Vineyard Heritage Commission, which is continued on after the Vineyard Heritage Foundation, 01:02:48
sorry, after the Commission was resolved or we intend to do some, some, some great things with trying to organize the historical 01:02:53
background of the of the Atlanta here that we worked on. So you all have a great understanding of the heritage that we come from. 01:02:58
That's exciting to be a part of that. 01:03:03
You know, the things that I'm most concerned about and I'm campaigning for a moment. I think the thing we need most is, is, is 01:03:09
economic development in in bringing businesses in. I'm I'm really looking forward to the chance for us to bring out the Huntsman 01:03:15
Hospital there. I hope that really works. And because I can reestablish and we can be can be a magnet to attract other medical and 01:03:20
other related businesses in the north part of Utah City and that would be great. 01:03:26
I'd like to see us get the the eastern side of North India develop as well. That part is not UVU campus the part and bring in some 01:03:33
some high pay, high taxpaying things and hopefully some sales tax generating businesses that will bring us a lot of revenue. One 01:03:40
of the reasons we have trouble with our our taxes being so high is we don't have have enough sales tax generating businesses and I 01:03:46
would like to see us get a chance to really work towards making that happen. 01:03:53
I think that's what we need, you know, almost the most. Of course, we need to make sure we keep the public safety in mind and make 01:04:00
sure that we do do things in a way that keep everybody safe. 01:04:03
And that this great place to live, great place, have your kids and so forth. And then my my grandkids and live in this pretty 01:04:08
close by the road here all the time. We we painted to have to, you know, rush them off of our roads where people, you know, race 01:04:13
by. We want to fix things like that and and and help make things better for everyone. 01:04:19
Thank you for the time. I appreciate your efforts. Thanks. 01:04:26
Thank you, David. 01:04:31
OK #19 David Harrington, I'll probably butcher that name. So he withdrew yesterday. So we're going to turn the time over now to 01:04:32
David Pierce. Oh, sorry, HIP 18. David Pierce #18 March up already. 01:04:39
They are members of the City Council and want to thank you for the opportunity to come up here tonight and address you. 01:04:50
I had an experience a few days ago. 01:04:59
We were visiting friends as we were leaving, I said David. 01:05:03
Good luck Wednesday night, I told him. I wasn't sure what good luck looked like. 01:05:09
The job you all have. 01:05:16
Is often thankless. 01:05:21
I know it. 01:05:27
You spend a lot of time in what you do, preparing for meetings, going to meetings, doing homework, studying. 01:05:29
And endless phone calls, text messages. 01:05:39
All day. 01:05:46
When you're getting ready for lunch, to sit down for dinner, getting ready to go to bed. 01:05:49
And some want this, others want that. 01:05:56
Often. 01:06:02
There is conflict. 01:06:04
That's what your job is about. 01:06:07
And I though you don't do it for the glory and you certainly don't do it for the money and do it because you're concerned about 01:06:09
the community, about the citizens. 01:06:17
I share that concern. 01:06:24
I share that desire to serve. 01:06:28
That desire to contribute to the community and to make this a better place. It is a great place now. 01:06:32
When we decided, wife and I, that we were going to retire, we were going to do it in Utah and we looked all over Utah County. 01:06:41
We chose Vineyard because when we looked at Vineyard, when we walked around, when we talked to neighbors, we gotta feel that we 01:06:54
would love this place and we do. 01:07:00
We brag about it. 01:07:08
National travels and international travels. We live in vineyards and this is what we have. 01:07:11
We contribute. 01:07:20
To vineyards have for the four years would have been here. 01:07:22
The things I have done for a vineyard I know have made a part of the impact in the lives of. 01:07:27
The citizens of Vineyard. The youth of Vineyard. 01:07:36
5 seconds. 01:07:45
I want to thank you for the opportunity. Thank you, David. 01:07:49
And as I already said, David Burlington went through his name from consideration. So last but not least, we're going to turn the 01:07:54
time over to Kimberly Olson. 01:07:59
I'm sure you're all bored and you just want to get out of here, so hopefully it's the last 1 isn't too painful. So I want to come 01:08:09
here today and tell you there's really great news. You have a lot of great applicants and I have some bad news. You have really 01:08:17
great applicants, so I don't envy your decision. However, as I tried to write up what I wanted to say today, nothing felt. 01:08:24
Nothing sat with me and so I made a couple notes to keep me on task. However, as I have watched Amber's turmoil throughout 01:08:33
tonight, everything that I wanted to say seems very trite because. 01:08:40
Our opportunity comes with pain for her. 01:08:50
And thought I don't like. 01:08:52
So I want to say thank you, Amber. Thank you for your sacrifice. Thank you for loving our city enough to take your time, your 01:08:54
patience, and sometimes unsolicited abuse. 01:09:00
We really, really appreciate what you've done for us. 01:09:07
That being said, I have to tell you make qualifications. So here you are. I am a CPA. I have my masters in accounting from BYU. I 01:09:12
actually went into tax, but because I'm a glutton for punishment, I went into government accounting just a year after graduating. 01:09:19
I worked in the government accounting for 12 years. Now I'm a member of the Government Finance Officers Association and I've also 01:09:26
been a member of my community HOA when I lived in Pleasant Grove. 01:09:33
I live in Lakefront and I'm so thrilled that we have so many people here representing Lakefront because I do think. 01:09:41
That it's a unique perspective that doesn't exist on the current council and I'm grateful for that. 01:09:48
But. 01:09:56
None of those things matter. I think that my biggest strength coming in is my ability to see people for what they are. People. 01:09:57
They're not data, they're not numbers, they're not a spreadsheet, and they're not something to be counted, judged, and 01:10:04
manipulated. So I think that that is a bigger strength than my education or my job is seeing people. 01:10:11
I cannot promise that I will be perfect. In fact, I can promise that I will be imperfect, but I can't promise that I will try 01:10:19
hard. 01:10:22
I will have the hard discussions, I will work my best to learn to understand the issues in front of me as best I can to represent 01:10:26
my constituents and when and if I mess up and will apologize. I will learn from my mistakes and I will try to do better. And 01:10:32
that's all that I can promise you because I haven't done this job before. 01:10:38
So I really appreciate you guys. I really appreciate your sacrifice to our community, and I hope that if you choose me, that we 01:10:45
can work together to make it bigger, brighter, and more peaceful. And that's all I have to say. 01:10:51
Thank you. 01:10:58
So unless Haley is here, that is everybody gives this not on Zoom, right? OK, OK. All right. So we're going to end this portion of 01:11:00
our of our process and I just need to know does the council want time to look back through their binders for a minute or would you 01:11:08
like how how much time would you guys like? 01:11:16
5 minutes 10 sure, let's take 5 minutes 5 you guys 2 up three binders again and look at look back at everybody. So we'll give you 01:11:26
a, we set a 5 minute timer for us for those that would like to still look back to their binders. 01:11:33
There you go. 01:11:55
Great idea. 01:11:56
OK, there's our timer. 01:11:58
Yes. 01:12:18
Yeah. 01:13:12
Yeah. 01:14:28
Thank you, it was great to take a picture of this. 01:15:17
That's funny. 01:15:27
Yeah. 01:15:34
OK. We have less than 30 seconds. Can I have everybody please take your seat so we can get back? 01:16:32
To the meet rest of the meeting. 01:16:38
15 seconds. 01:16:43
10 seconds. 01:16:48
Please take your seat. Remember we are still recording. 01:16:50
Hey, thank you. Can I have it quiet in the room please, so we can move on to the next portion of this process? 01:16:55
Thank you, I appreciate it. 01:17:04
Hey. 01:17:10
Now for the next part, microphone, yes, OK, I'm going to hand you out each ballot and you are going to mark one. You're going to 01:17:12
vote for one person and then if you please fold your ballot up into the thing and then I will come pick those up from you, okay? 01:17:21
Vote for one. 01:17:33
For the one opening. 01:17:35
Is everybody done? 01:18:18
Microphone OK. 01:18:44
Sorry, while we reset up here for half a second, let's move that and toy borrow your mic, toy borrowing your microphone over there 01:18:46
on the staff table. Thank you. 01:18:50
If ever fits over here right? 01:19:16
When we went through and this was trying to figure out this whole process. I know other cities have done it, but if you're not 01:19:25
aware, day Brad's 51 applicants for their open seat. So I don't know I was going to e-mail her. They did it. They did this stuff 01:19:32
last night. I was going to ask her how it went, how late they went the 51 if anybody else withdrew so. 01:19:39
That I didn't get that far today. 01:19:47
It's been a long few weeks. Let's just say November has been very busy. So what we decided to do? 01:19:49
In the process where we thought, do we take it to the conference room and do we tally it there? No, let's sit in front of 01:20:00
everybody. You guys have the right to to listen to what we're saying. Does that make you nervous to hear? 01:20:06
It's reassuring, OK. 01:20:14
Yeah, I'm making unfortunate Tony to. 01:20:21
It's nice to participate. Yeah. So yeah, I'm gonna shuffle them to smidge. So in case you saw how I picked them up from the 01:20:24
council, you can't see that, right? Yeah, OK. 01:20:32
Fair is fair, all right. I will read the vote off. Tony will mark it on our blank ballot. Blank ballot, OK. 01:20:40
Full transparency here. 01:20:52
Clarified. Thank you. 01:20:54
Today we have a vote for Brett #5. 01:20:57
Oh, we have a vote for Brett #5. 01:21:10
I'm going to have a vote for Kimberly #20. 01:21:15
We have a vote for Brett. We have a winner. 01:21:25
We also have a vote for Kimberly. 01:21:30
So. 01:21:34
With that. 01:21:36
We have a winner. 01:21:38
For Brett Clausen. 01:21:40
Congrats. Congratulations, Brett. 01:21:43
We will be. 01:21:47
Swearing you land here and a half a second as soon as I go get those and Tony will print one off that you can sign in a little bit 01:21:49
that you'll get your own copy of. Okay, all right, thank you everyone for participating. 01:21:56
We appreciate it. We love the support that you have given to this city. I always tell people, even though I don't live here, I 01:22:04
grew up with Vineyard. I've worked here for over 11 years, and so sometimes I know too much. So thank you everybody. 01:22:12
I would love if we could just stand and clap for everybody that threw their names in the hat. 01:22:20
And because I'll keep standing for a second, and just because we're here to replace Amber Seat, let's all give her a round of 01:22:34
applause as well. Thank you. 01:22:37
Yes, Jeremy. 01:22:52
Did you have something? 01:22:53
Yeah. 01:22:56
OK. 01:22:59
And yes, I have this memorized, but every time I get up in front of people I get a little nervous. I don't know why I always love 01:23:18
it so. 01:23:22
I'm hoping this is going into the. 01:23:26
Is this going in? 01:23:30
Please make sure what's. 01:23:32
Yeah, I just had to remove it. You're good. Oh, I'm getting perfect. OK, so make sure you speak a little bit loud because we're 01:23:34
not quite into it. So what you can do is raise your hand. You can repeat after me. I state your name. Haven't been appointed to 01:23:41
the office of City Council. Having been appointed to the office of City Council, do solemnly swear. Do solemnly swear that I will 01:23:49
support, obey and defend. That I will support, obey and defend the Constitution of the United States. The Constitution. 01:23:56
The United States and the Constitution of the State of Utah and the Constitution of the State of Utah. And that I will discharge 01:24:04
the duties of my office and that I will discharge the duties of my office With fidelity. With fidelity. Congratulations. We'll 01:24:09
have you started. 01:24:13
Just one quick thing for those that. 01:24:26
Might still be interested we will have 3 council seats open next at the next election, which is a few months right, less than a 01:24:29
year away. So please think about it, think about running thank you guys OK, we're going to have. 01:24:37
Brad, if he'll come up and we want some pictures with, can we get a picture with the whole? 01:24:46
Picture with the entire council. Can we put this table down maybe? 01:24:54
No, Yeah, we can put them on. 01:25:03
We can leave Zoom on for those that are on Zoom if you'd like to stay for the remainder of the meeting or you're welcome to go to 01:25:30
bed. 01:25:34
Thank you guys. 01:25:40
123. 01:25:50
Thank you. 01:25:57
We're going to take one more with the new council. 01:25:59
OK, I love you all. We love you. 01:26:11
With the new new council. 01:26:19
123123. 01:26:26
Thank you. 01:26:31
Go ahead and take your seat next. 01:26:35
Go ahead and take your seat up on the dais, please. And I'm going to turn the time over to Mayor Fulmer as soon as she's ready. 01:26:39
I'll give you my actor. 01:26:59
All right, we're going to go ahead and just finish out a business item discussion and action Mountain Land Association of 01:27:17
Government City Hall Partnership Resolution 2024, Dash 34. 01:27:22
Let's see who will be presenting this. OK, Thank you, Morgan. 01:27:29
Yeah, thank you. So yeah, if you just give us a second, let's get this pulled up. 01:27:35
So this is a SO resolution 2024 dash 34. 01:27:41
Is a resolution authorizing city staff to proceed with planning, design and preliminary work necessary for the development of a 01:27:47
new City Hall and partnership at the Mountain Association of Governments? We often call MAG and the developer of the Downtown 01:27:52
project. 01:27:56
I hate to say it, but I can't hear you guys. 01:28:03
I'll try to speak a little, little closer. 01:28:07
All right, let me pull my presentation up. 01:28:10
Great. So this resolution would authorize city staff to work with Mountain Lands Association of Government, we often call MAG and 01:28:28
the developer of the property to work on the preliminary design work, which would also take us to a full construction drawing of 01:28:37
the new City Hall. So to be able to collaborate with them and see if we. 01:28:47
As much as possible reduce costs through the sharing of facilities. So in doing that, we wanted just to quickly overview our RFP 01:28:57
process. There's been kind of some questions of how that process occurs and some of the policies that go over in that process. 01:29:07
Back in, I believe it's July of 2022, the city adopted a new purchasing policy and that is the policy that governors are RFP 01:29:18
processes provides the staff report. 01:29:25
The purpose of the policy was to ensure that we had some set guidelines and procedures for purchasing goods and services, but also 01:29:33
to help us with creating a competitive environment where we would be able to to get the lowest price, but also with with the best 01:29:41
service. So finally, kind of that that cross section of. 01:29:49
The best value? 01:29:57
In in terms of professionalism and. 01:30:00
Competency of consultants and what we're purchasing and also at the lowest cost. 01:30:03
Some of the exceptions. 01:30:12
So some of this actually were to provide circumstances where betting may be bypassed such as emergency is sole source of vendors. 01:30:17
It also dealt with the conflicts of interest, emphasizing the importance of avoiding conflicts and purchasing decisions with clear 01:30:23
guidelines and disclosures and restrictions on staff involved in procurement. So as we go through our the process with our PE will 01:30:30
work closely. 01:30:36
With our finance director who is our per purchasing agent as well. 01:30:43
The policy requires us to have clear documentation and record keeping for potential audits, and it requires that. 01:30:48
We follow any that the state mandate. We may also be more restrictive than what state code is, but at a minimum are required to 01:31:01
file state code. 01:31:05
This kind of weighs out the overall. 01:31:10
Kind of amounts of who is authorized to approve purchasing. It shows kind of at a low level where the purchasing agent or the 01:31:14
department head or designee may approve purchase at 5000 and then it breaks it down into into different increments with the City 01:31:23
Hall that'll be above the 125,000 and so that would require. 01:31:32
Several approvals to purchasing agent. That's Christy. 01:31:41
Department head, city manager and and mayor. And so it's a, it's a pretty significant and the and the governing body and that was 01:31:44
done through the budget. If you remember that the budget provided for the funds to to, to engage the the design process and to to 01:31:52
go out for an RFP. 01:32:00
This provides kind of the request that the process for for RFP's, I don't know if you want to add anything to this, but 01:32:12
essentially we're in the preparation of the of the draft currently of the RFP. And so there'll be two RPS, one for the the design, 01:32:18
so hiring the architect. 01:32:25
And an engineer to help us prepare those documents and then also to another RFP to to contract with a contractor. 01:32:33
For that, the construction of City Hall, the reason why it's important to do both is at the same time is that you want those two 01:32:44
entities, those two groups to work very closely together throughout the process and really in the beginning of the process, 01:32:49
because that's where you can see a lot of savings. 01:32:55
Often times and the same could probably speak to this, but if you have a design and the and the design and the contractor and 01:33:02
we've seen this with like parks and just different developments even on the private side where the two aren't communicating 01:33:08
closely throughout the process. 01:33:13
You'll see a lot of discrepancies between the actual construction on site development and what was being proposed in the plans, so 01:33:20
we want to make sure that we have those two linked together as closely as possible. 01:33:26
This is an assuming error by the worst darker settings here. I was just kind of taking piggybacking off what I've only said over 01:33:43
connected to the hip. So I don't think I'll like it, but kind of going on just to recap the request for proposal process. Request 01:33:50
for proposal process is typically a renewal process. Oftentimes there's advantages to. 01:33:56
Making it not so linear, especially for. 01:34:03
To make it more advantageous to for collaboration. 01:34:06
You know, in order to amplify the collaboration communication, especially for complex projects such as something like this would 01:34:10
be kind of jumping from the RFP process into the project where the project bicycle was. This is just a standardized project 01:34:16
bicycle ticket from the project management. So the project management website, I mean, there's several other resources out there, 01:34:22
project management institute and such. This is just more of a generic type of project life cycle which talks about project 01:34:28
initiation project. 01:34:34
Project planning, execution, monitoring, controlling, and then of course closer. And this can be applied to any, typically any 01:34:40
kind of project scenario, whether it be construction or a planning type project or anything like that is typically what we follow. 01:34:46
Like Morgan was talking about, we're in the beginning phases of this particular project and we will work on the project initiation 01:34:52
and then moving towards the project planning. This particular slide on projects, the project cycle specifically for the Vineyard 01:34:58
City Hall. 01:35:04
Kind of breaks it down, kind of. We were the phrasing to be more specific for construction type projects where the first one is 01:35:10
planning and programming. 01:35:14
On that. 01:35:19
It talks about defining the scope of work, defining what the scope of work is. We'll talk about goals, assessing feasibility and 01:35:21
of course seeing securing approvals. But again, this is a kind of a standard type process for the first part of the phase. Then 01:35:28
moving on to like the next one's design, the design phase developing engineering construction plans to developing some schedules 01:35:35
to say OK, can this project be done in five weeks, 5 months, five years type of things of course budgets because. 01:35:42
You know the more of a just like anything else, more of a more that defined plan that you have more defined scope of work. 01:35:49
That is out there, the better the budget would be. Someone comes to me out with a paper napkin design. I've done this in the past 01:35:57
in the prime soccer. I have paper napkin design for this building. How much is their cost? I could give them a price ±30 or 40%. I 01:36:05
mean that's a big plus or minus right there. So on the design portion of this, really wanted to fine tune that to be. 01:36:13
Very more specific, of course, we talked about resources, you know, specifically about funds like you know, fund allocations, 01:36:22
where funds come from that that's that's where that's, that's when you get during the design process. 01:36:27
Where it comes down to risks and permits, of course, the third phase is contract construction, forcing the kind of when you start 01:36:33
kind of mobilizing things, the next one is monitoring, controlling. That's I've done in conjunction. 01:36:40
Align with the construction contracts and then for sure the last one is project close out. It's always the hardest part of any 01:36:49
project is closing out project out. I know that for past experience that we would, I used to teach project management and the 01:36:56
federal government in my past life. And that was the part that was the lesson, that part of the section that I would have to like 01:37:02
pound the most in the heads of my students as project closed at project closeout. 01:37:09
So kind of going continuing on to on this particular project. 01:37:17
Kind of like a little flow diagram, you know, on the planning, programming, developing scope of work. You have to find validating 01:37:22
requirements, consider evaluating select side location to impact their comprehensive plan and any other types of plans, for 01:37:29
example, transportation master plan, any other type of utilities plans, you know, the active transportation master plan kind of 01:37:36
more in general, the biggest part about the pre this particular awareness decisions is project priority. 01:37:43
Program avenues like and this is, you know this is talking about the more generic as it could be operation and maintenance type 01:37:52
project is a capital type project. 01:37:56
And of course, your rescue. So we've gone through the planning and programming portion of this. This is kind of several snapshots 01:38:00
from the programming analysis that was done by Neilson, excuse me, Nielsen Partners several months ago. If I'm not mistaken, that 01:38:08
kind of outlines, OK, here, here's the need and the project, the project data. 01:38:17
For example, square footage, the square footage to the parking requirements, the the bikes and then kind of tells you like I like 01:38:26
to find the scope, what's the project description? This is the scope of what the project is. 01:38:31
Like I said, this is just snapshots of the actual plan. So I mean the more detailed plan is there instance summarized. And of 01:38:38
course I know that they took analysis of staffing needs and requirements, for example, like space utilization and such, and they 01:38:46
did a nifty diagram that's the kind of first floor, second floor, third floor and a fourth floor, different colors of stages. 01:38:54
The staffing, the space utilization, the first time I did this back in my long, long time ago, we called the space plan. I thought 01:39:03
it was pretty cool because I'm like, I'm working on a space plan. But in reality it was just, yeah, spatial plan. So it made me 01:39:10
feel better when I was when I, when I told my wife what I was doing at work. Oh yeah, exactly. And then yeah. And but moving on to 01:39:18
the design and which is, which is the phase that we're moving into the actual, the design where we do. 01:39:25
Considerations, reviews and then delivery methods. That's where we talk about delivery methods. There's several times there are 01:39:33
delivery methods. These are the three more common ones. You have designed. It builds, you go out, for example, a house, you hire 01:39:40
architects, design the house, such and such and then go out. You better, you get a contractor to kind of build it. And anyone 01:39:47
who's lived through that experience, I personally have. 01:39:54
Both sides of the fence. 01:40:02
Where change orders is you know not has always been like throughout the process you know I would like that window and moved over 01:40:03
by like 6 inches cuz. 01:40:08
The space that doesn't really meet my requirements, what can I do to move this wall? And then of course contractors like, well, we 01:40:16
have to do the change. We have to change it based on the design plan. Moving on to design build where you put out a contract in 01:40:23
RFP for someone to design and build at the same time. Typically that's, you know, sometimes people partner together, sometimes you 01:40:29
get people who partner together, contractors who are partnering with their contract with architecture oftentimes. 01:40:35
For for for projects, the contractor would have an architect when I worked in the private sector. 01:40:43
Now we would do design build quite a bit cuz we had our couple contractors or senior architects that we would utilize on that. And 01:40:49
so the contractor typically has a lot of say on the designer. The third one is design CMVC and that's the designs and construction 01:40:56
manager, general contractor. This is the one year the city or the client, you know, the customer asked goes out, puts out two 01:41:04
separate contracts and we say. 01:41:11
To be able to choose our designer and we want to be able to choose our contractor, so. 01:41:19
We're gonna pick the best or the top designer. We're gonna pick the top contractor based on criteria that we set. And that 01:41:26
criteria is just specific to the needs and specific to what we feel we want from designer and what we want from a contractor, a 01:41:33
contractor and contractors contract manager slash general manager. And then of course. 01:41:41
As you can see in that picture, they kind of they're staggered, they're kind of lined up and then the constructions are banned. I 01:41:50
know for factoring the design build portion of that's been done in the central government with some successes and oftentimes a lot 01:41:56
of lessons that aren't because of that not very much control over the designer portion of it because it's usually heavily on the 01:42:02
contractor side of things. 01:42:08
And one of the reasons and this is the standard little target. 01:42:15
Go off the web and so forth talks about the opportunity to add value and cost for change. When we talked about change orders on a 01:42:21
design bid, build this change, all those changes are coming during the construction phase and on this chart as when you're in the 01:42:27
construction change, that's when costs are changes. Cost for and changes doesn't even have to be customer driven, change can be 01:42:34
site driven, unforeseen circumstances. 01:42:41
Something on the? 01:42:49
Maybe maybe some kind of supply issues or whatever and those that cost is typically is typically always the highest there. I know 01:42:52
sometimes again the private sector, sometimes my old boss would price change or is high enough just cuz he just didn't want to do 01:42:58
it. 01:43:03
It's like, OK, now and of course change order is based on the designer. If it was contract like the designer had a mistake, the 01:43:09
contractor looks at the owner to pay for those change orders and let the owner deal with trying to go for that to the designer. 01:43:16
What we want and basically deliver the methodology that we're doing on this particular one is Design CMGC where we're bringing 01:43:23
both and their best qualified designer, best qualified. 01:43:31
Contractor into the into the room early on to the project to be partners in the project. So while we're doing designs we can get, 01:43:39
we're able to get an essence live feedback in terms of feasibility of construction and cost as well. Again, working in the. 01:43:48
Having worked in design sector specifically system designs and making designs, a lot of our a lot of the grievances on contractors 01:44:00
is. 01:44:04
I know what you designed, but it can't be built or it's hard to build. It's you know, it takes a lot more effort into that and 01:44:09
that is definitely a great, a better partnership to have is when we bring to stakeholders to include the contractor into the. 01:44:16
The conversation early on with that and that's the summary of the project process. 01:44:24
Yes, that's that's. 01:44:33
That's everything from staff so yeah we have the resolution and that will authorize us to kick off that process. Okay Council do 01:44:34
you have any questions for you following kind of this kicks off the process what we're really saying is we're. 01:44:42
We had a discussion where we set money aside in the budget and we are basically stating the staff wants to come forward. They want 01:44:50
to do an RFP where they get an architect and a designer to go through the process and say what would the city need to do if we 01:44:58
were going to design a building And then real time projections of cost to say that's too much or we need to pull back on design to 01:45:05
make sure that we stay. 01:45:12
Constraints. So that's kind of the process that we're allowing them to bring to us so that we can review and then move forward on 01:45:20
what is feasible for our community. Can the kickoff of the public process, can you go back to that where you saw the four stories 01:45:26
of the building? 01:45:31
Yeah. So this was that, this was a special analysis that Nelson Partners did. So that was like the very first step to understand 01:45:44
kind of the envelope of the building that would be needed and looking at how we could fit potentially a partnership with with MAG. 01:45:51
You guys will remember that we saw this earlier this year. 01:45:58
Yeah. 01:46:05
So one of my questions as we move forward, we've kind of bounced around some different ideas and I like this layout, but I guess 01:46:07
the one question I have is throughout this process, are we going to involve asking the feasibility of including our library in 01:46:14
this building? 01:46:20
Yeah. So that's something that we actually put in the draft for the RFP to see if there was interest in in because we've heard 01:46:27
that quite a bit in the past. 01:46:33
If we build a City Hall, do we include a space for for the library there as well? And so that's something that that that can be 01:46:39
looked at. What this does is just provide kind of that starting point. So we understand like how it could fit in the space overall 01:46:46
square footage. So the now we go to like the actual details, 10,000 foot level and that we're going down to a very granular level. 01:46:53
And so I would anticipate as we work with the architect that this design gets and even a floor place gets much more refined. And 01:47:01
then if there are priorities like the library ensuring that that gets incorporated in there. And there were some other ones too. 01:47:08
There was interest in having sorry there, there was some some interest in having. 01:47:14
And space for events or just a really public permeable space on the ground floor where members of the public who are entrepreneurs 01:47:21
could do a little start up and tables and booths where they could sell their goods and just kind of making it kind of a market 01:47:28
feel many of it members of the Council toward Mill Creek. And there's some interest in that. So part part of that was brought into 01:47:36
into this analysis. So that'll get further refined and if those are elements. 01:47:43
Wants to maintain, then we keep those in there and then they would be built into the actual architectural design. 01:47:51
Are there any more questions for the council? Yeah, I have. I just want to appreciate putting this on the ballot to vote or 01:48:02
putting on the agenda to vote because I didn't think it should proceed without like understanding that we're going to spend a lot 01:48:08
of staff time to be able to go through and do that without acknowledging that we're we're going to be doing that. I was able to 01:48:14
meet with Orem Wayne Gray and understand the RFP process. 01:48:20
Putting together a technical document that is an RFP I tried to understand would be anywhere between 15 to $20,000 in staff time 01:48:27
to do that. So you're committing just. 01:48:33
That amount of time in doing the RFP, and I understand that we say we're going to be using templates and different things like 01:48:40
that, but it is a commitment and staff, if we move forward with that, just putting it at a time. The other thing, could we have 01:48:46
staff to answer to that? I know that's what I'm saying, but what is our staff saying? 01:48:52
The RFP is prepared and it took us. 01:49:00
Maybe a day or two of staff time to prepare that so it's done. When you do the RFP, you're going to have to come back and evaluate 01:49:03
them. 01:49:07
It's just ready to submit, right? And but you're gonna put it out on the street, then you're gonna sit with vendors, you're gonna 01:49:12
go through the technical with all of those different. 01:49:17
Builders, we'll review it just like we do other RFP's. We've got 20 RFPs going out this year and we'll be going through the same 01:49:24
process. 01:49:28
Clarify what I think is happening. I think Jack was really appreciative that you came up with a plan to put the resolution on the 01:49:33
agenda and get this moving forward. But it sounds like now he's saying even though you've already prepared the RFP, the additional 01:49:38
cost of the RFP is to now go and vet all of the people that would accept the IP. I mean, I would say about half is putting it 01:49:44
together and I would say about half is, I mean, I work for the public group, we do electronic procurements. It's about half that 01:49:50
and then you go to the vendor. 01:49:56
Under side when you throw it out and you've got to then look through it. So and he was saying that's $20,000 and Marty was saying 01:50:03
was it $20,000 for yesterday about halfway through. So yeah, I would agree with. So then he's saying did you spend $10,000? Well, 01:50:09
no, you should staff time of putting those type of things together. I think if you're going to state that, I want to know if we 01:50:15
have spent, if we really have spent about half of what you're seeing. 01:50:22
So that's $10,000 in staff time. 01:50:29
On the public record, I want them to answer to that and see if they have spent $10,000 in staff. Right now we're spending an 01:50:33
average of about $500 per RFP. This one might be a little bit more because it's a bigger project, but I don't expect it to be 01:50:38
substantially greater than that. 01:50:43
Yeah. I mean, how many hundreds we met with, with other cities that have done such similar work, But I don't know, it's kind of 01:50:50
hard to quantify. But it is hard to quantify. That's why I gave up all parts. Yeah, I think 500 to $1000 maybe in staff time in 01:50:57
meeting with other cities for their preparation. I think that's reasonable from my point of view. Thank you. 01:51:04
So you've spent less than one day putting together how many pages of this document? 01:51:15
Again, the, the how many pages are on the RFP, the RFP that we prepared was we borrowed from Provo, right. But still how many 01:51:22
pages and adjusted it to ours maybe what, 20? Yeah, I thought I pulled up. Yeah. 01:51:29
We have a 20 page RFP of the building. 01:51:37
We don't. We didn't give anything technical over. 01:51:41
Well, we already have the RFP is it's talking about the qualifications for the architect. It's providing like the process that 01:51:45
they would go through, what are the submission requirements that they would need to provide us. And then there's the second-half 01:51:52
and I think maybe that's what you're getting to. Yeah, there is like a vetting process where we would we would that the different 01:52:00
submissions. So I'll anticipate that that would probably take a little bit longer than the preparation because you're going to be. 01:52:07
Interviews and then you're gonna be reviewing all the documents, So what you're receiving is gonna be. 01:52:14
Quite a bit cuz they're gonna show you their past projects that they've worked on. And so there's, yeah, there's definitely a 01:52:22
process that we wanna make sure we're picking whoever's the most qualified and at the best price. 01:52:27
That's great. So I feel like Jake is telling the council that there's investment in this and once everybody will be aware that 01:52:33
there's investment in it, right? Yeah. I mean, when I built my home, I think I got an 80 or 90 page document put together to 01:52:40
review from just my home. And so building in $30 million building is you're gonna get back hundreds of pages with, I don't know, 3 01:52:47
vendors or whatever. And so and I don't know how much you get paid and Eric get paid, but you're gonna spend 2 to 3 weeks. 01:52:54
Evaluating 100 page technical and if we're not then we probably should be taking much more time than that. And I don't know why 01:53:02
Orem and and Provo said that that would be the cost analysis, but I would hope maybe we'd be more in detail to that. 01:53:08
But we can argue on and I don't know how much they get paid versus versus what we do, but we're going to submit a significant 01:53:15
document or evaluating vendors and getting the building plans put together. And my argument is that, so that was the first thing I 01:53:24
did in meeting with Orem and, and understanding and then also just getting into bonding and understanding. 01:53:32
General. 01:53:42
General whatever bonds and then also tax liability bonds and understanding the bond market now. 01:53:44
This will be 10 times the size of any building we've ever built as a city, right? I mean, the most expensive is the fire 01:53:52
department. I'm understanding at 1.4 million. So to understand that, that magnitude and being able to go and meet with Mag and I 01:53:59
know Eric was able to go and meet with us. 01:54:07
The things that I came out of that meeting with and I think she was wonderful. 01:54:15
Shelley did a great job but understanding. 01:54:21
You know, we ±30 million at 30% like you said, so it could be 33 to 35 million. And understanding that MAG said they had 8 million 01:54:26
cash, but then when they sold their building they would be able to put in, but they needed us to carry that 2 million. So 01:54:35
understand, let's just say that it's 30 and we don't go over cost. 01:54:43
We've got a leftover of 20. 01:54:53
Just not taking the bond market saying that we get a 0 tax. 01:54:55
Ray would be 20, you know it would be $1,000,000 a year payment. Now if we look at the current rate and we were to take the best 01:55:00
AAA bond rating. 01:55:05
You know, at that percentage, and this was done a week ago, we're looking at a $1.4 million payment annually. 01:55:12
Umm, that's by any fire station annually and I'm and I'm grateful that it was disclosed in the meeting that we don't have a. 01:55:20
Tenant, but we would potentially try to find a tenant and in speaking with. 01:55:32
Commercial real estate right now, it is at such a low dollar amount that people are not paying 100, you know, $0.10 or 100 cents 01:55:40
on the dollar. You know, people are getting 30 to $0.40 on the dollar for tenants right now just because of the vacancy rate 01:55:49
that's going on. And that's why we are getting such a great rate and renting and only paying. 01:55:57
60,000 a year for the rental instead of getting that now, even if we were to get a tenant in the years that that wasn't full, we 01:56:06
would still be at a $723,000 annual payment. And I'm very concerned with this because. 01:56:18
We just went through the budget where we said we had no ability to cut whatsoever, but we would be adding $860,000 to. 01:56:31
To that budget and and so you know, my concern is, is by moving forward with an RFP now we've made the, we're putting costs into 01:56:40
and we might add we're only about $7000 more into this idea. I really believe that we should pause and take 90 to 120 days and get 01:56:48
our people at Zions to come back and give us bond. 01:56:57
Pricing so that we know before we even dedicate staff to it, so. 01:57:06
We can look at what that payment is. I believe we then believe owe it to the citizens to then say this is how we will finance it. 01:57:12
Like whether that be property sales tax or a combination of growth like hey, we're betting on growth and that's fine. But then 01:57:19
that's a gamble. But at least the citizens and residents know this is or it could be a combination of this is where we believe 01:57:26
we're going to cut to be able to make it and then once. 01:57:34
That is out. Then we say, OK, the financial house is in order. And that's the thing I learned. The other thing I learned is that 01:57:41
we are getting into bed with, it's technically buying a house with another person and in meeting with not only the executive 01:57:49
director bond of Mag, but calling all the other mayors that hey, have you looked at our finances? Have you have you understood 01:57:56
vineyards? Because I believe it was really good for them to for me to go and say. 01:58:04
I understand your finances and I felt comfortable with it at the same rate they didn't understand ours and I helped them 01:58:12
understand. We have not told the residents of Vineyard what that payment is. We haven't gone to them. You know the two different 01:58:18
bonds would be 1 would be the citizens would be voting on it, which I 100% wish they could because it is such a significant 01:58:25
purchase or the other one is us as a council. 01:58:31
Voting on it. 01:58:38
But it's a higher rate, our interest rate on that particular bond. And so I was a little bit alarmed that the mayors of the that 01:58:40
are on mag once understanding that's where we were financially in identifying that to citizens, they were like, I would really 01:58:47
like to understand that that is a concern to us. And so one of the things that I really love that Shelly threw out to us was her 01:58:53
willingness. 01:59:00
At mad to come and do a working session with us. 01:59:07
To have them come and us come to go through that, but then we could also show and go through the finances, our finances with them. 01:59:10
And so the citizens understand even if we could make the payment off of all of those cuts, my biggest concern is do citizens 01:59:19
understand that that's tying our hands to many of the other projects that we have already promised in our. 01:59:28
Whether that be the corridor master plan in our state parks and all that type of stuff, or our lakefront master plan where all of 01:59:37
those unfunded, you know, dreams are already promised. 01:59:42
And so I just think it's really important that our financial house and knowledge go in before we proceed spending and we can 01:59:48
debate 8 to $10,000 in staff evaluating and doing that. I just think and in all the cities that I spoke with, that was the first 01:59:57
thing that they did before they authorized staff to be doing RFPs and stuff. I couldn't find one instance. 02:00:07
They're the ones that I met with. Just to clarify, you said you spoke with Provo or I'm in who so I spoke with. 02:00:17
Orem And that was. 02:00:25
And what kind of so did you just bring your own personal data or did you get it from our? No, I got it emailed from. 02:00:30
Lane Gray from Orem and then I also spoke with Mayor Frost American Fork kind of understand that and then I also was able to we 02:00:38
were able to meet with the city manager of the Saratoga Springs and also our. 02:00:44
Chris Karn to kind of help understand what their process was on theirs. So yeah, that's great. So my understanding is that RFP, it 02:00:51
doesn't sound like it has been, it's not a huge financial obligation at this point, but you get the RFP back and then you take it 02:00:58
to the financial planner who goes through all of the information and then you bring it back to council and then we have 02:01:05
discussions with the public. Is that correct or no? 02:01:12
So the RFP will be posted. 02:01:20
We'll get, we'll get candidates responding to that with their proposals. We'll evaluate those proposals. 02:01:23
We'll reduce that number to a single candidate that we're ready to recommend to the council. Council will approve that as a 02:01:31
contract. 02:01:35
That contract will fit within the the budget amount that was allotted for this stage of the project. 02:01:41
That that will go into contract. 02:01:47
We'll work through that process of designing the building and getting the financial. 02:01:51
Estimates for it and during that process as we get those financial estimates, we will work with our consultant to our financial 02:01:58
consultant to get a bond package put together that that they can recommend that fits within our revenue streams. And then that 02:02:04
will be another decision that comes before the council and say. 02:02:11
Eight to 10 months. 02:02:18
OK. Because there's there's significant economic development that's coming in the next year. So they'll take that into account. 02:02:20
It, it is a little concerning just going over the budget process and I'm, you know, still new, but it seemed like there was. 02:02:31
I mean, we really are, we have a small budget, right And so. 02:02:39
So to take something on like this feels a little. 02:02:44
Like we should really be questioning, right, if this is the right time. And so having all the numbers in front of us would be 02:02:49
really helpful to understand that for sure. We're not biting off more than we can chew too early of the RFP. 02:02:56
Once well. 02:03:04
Once it's gone through the whole process. 02:03:07
It's not. 02:03:11
It's definitely not a done deal, right? This is no so preliminary right to just help us understand if this is something we can 02:03:12
afford. I mean, obviously staff and and the city need a bigger building, right? And so when Sarah see your point on that, we spent 02:03:21
close to that when we did a study on the fire station and there were several proposals brought to us for much more extensive. 02:03:31
Building sizes, costs. 02:03:40
And when we went through the model spending roughly what we're talking about to kind of go through this process, it may be more, 02:03:42
but the numbers that are being thrown out, we were able to take those costs and reduce them by 10s of millions of dollars that 02:03:50
were being potentially proposed. And so really understanding the designs, the feasibility, different funding mechanisms, different 02:03:57
approaches, how design could look, it really helps shape the cost and that's why we're at the beginning. 02:04:05
Of the public process right now, and it's a typical one that most cities follow, actually. 02:04:12
And but this beginning process sometimes helps shape those costs so that we don't spend something that we can't afford. OK, so so 02:04:18
Jacob said that we it took us 10 years to save the money for the Firehouse. Is that correct? 02:04:26
Do you wanna answer it or do you want me to? 02:04:35
You're welcome to. Oh, OK. I would say this, Every year the city sets aside priorities that we spend our money on and sometimes we 02:04:38
spend. 02:04:44
Money building a new road and that could be 5 to $10 million sometimes we. 02:04:52
Are dedicating our money towards parks and resources because we have new housing coming in and what we did and what he's probably 02:04:59
talking about is that around 2018 or 2019 we said as we are growing. 02:05:05
And we don't know when exactly we'll need a fire station. We don't want to not have something set aside. So we set about 1/4 of 02:05:11
$1,000,000 aside annually just to make sure we had enough for staff and to make sure that when we got to the building we would 02:05:19
have something. So it wouldn't be fair to say that it took us 10 years to raise $1,000,000. It would be fair to say that we set 02:05:26
aside money because we were being fiscally conservative and said we wanted to have something. 02:05:33
To bring to the table in our discussions as we came forward, what was remarkable is that we were able to save what we needed and 02:05:41
pay out of our reserves that we had set aside. Because we had to done that and because we did a study that helped us get to the 02:05:50
type of design that we got to, that's what made the process so excellent. Could I add just add one more thing to that? 02:05:58
One of the interesting elements about the the fire station. 02:06:07
That that makes it an interesting comparable is that the cost of the fire station was intended to be, as you pointed out, much 02:06:10
higher. It was intended to be closer to 9 or 10 million. Putting aside some funding was intended to be more of a seed for that 02:06:16
project than it was to pay for the whole thing. So it was rather remarkable that it was able to pay for the whole thing. The more 02:06:22
critical part that that came up in this year's budget is the cost of staffing that and that's that's probably the main reason why 02:06:28
the. 02:06:34
Was not prepared to build a fire station 5 years ago or six years ago because the cost every year to staff that fire station is 02:06:40
substantially more than the Firehouse itself. We paid close to I think 2.25 million per year for for staffing our Firehouse. And 02:06:49
so when we're talking about dollar amounts. 02:06:58
Yes, our fire station is going to cost us 1.5 million. 02:07:07
But the consideration that was of most important was are we ready to handle that added cost of ongoing operations for a fire 02:07:11
station. And it wasn't until this year with a with a property tax adjustment that we are able to finally bring that our 02:07:17
firefighters into the city. 02:07:23
And that is because the tax rate was going down and inflation was increasing simultaneously. So the city's tax rate was going 02:07:31
down. And I don't remember the percentage off hand, but the the inflation rate was going up. 02:07:37
More, I mean, just as much or more at the same time. And so we couldn't recoup those costs, those losses. So just a clarification. 02:07:45
So right now in this RFP process, our financial commitment is staff time. Yeah, yeah. 02:07:53
To me that seems reasonable. 02:08:02
I know that you're very concerned about that, but to me it seems reasonable because we have a plan. 02:08:05
I mean, if we're down to half of it, you know, and it's the substantial, it's another 5 to 8000. But still, it's like I'm looking 02:08:11
at every dollar of like, you know, I don't know what they get paid a week and there's three or four people going on to it, you 02:08:17
know, but but let's say there's two or three, it's still 8 to 7000 and it's like. 02:08:23
I want to see the dollar amount and and and to your point, you know 10 to 12 years ago when they first we are going to save. 02:08:31
Nate Riley and those that are, hey, we're going to put this in. You're right. Other things come up and they go, we didn't put as 02:08:41
much away. We didn't, we did, we didn't. And it's different. I mean, it's just like your family budget, like, hey, we want to go 02:08:48
to Disneyland, but we can't. Every year there's something else that comes up that that that stops it, right? And my concern is, is 02:08:55
that, and you're exactly right about the fire station. So our ability to save actually now diminishes even even more. 02:09:01
Because we now have this fire stuff where we didn't have that in the last five years. Now we're at this 2.5 million. So our 02:09:09
ability to save is even more hindered. And so one of the things that I think we need to be more transparent on is this like, OK, 02:09:17
not only are we going to make that 1.4 if we're the 2/3, but also more solidifying on that. 02:09:26
That tenant and are they committing for a 5-10 or twenty year commitment? 02:09:35
Just, you know, 3 into two, These are all things that are gonna come out in the future. This doesn't have to necessarily affect 02:09:41
the RFP. RFP is a small thing. And then after that, we'll dissect everything. Nobody's gonna move forward until we all feel 02:09:48
comfortable. I completely agree with going back through the six to seven years of budgeting we've spent. I don't know what was it, 02:09:56
$5000 for planning for a skate park? And then we lose that because we do the plan and it's not. 02:10:03
Early in our agenda, we'll plan this and it's like if you continue to throw out five to $10,000 on different have we spent $5000 02:10:11
on designing a skate park? 02:10:16
We pay the vendor for a skate park. I met him in Idaho. Yeah, there was a conceptual plan that was proposed. I can't remember the 02:10:23
exact cost, but it was, it was probably in that range. It was the American Ramp Company. They provided a it was a bike park and a 02:10:30
skate park combination plan that was going to be near. 02:10:38
Grove Park and there, there there's a lot of residents who have concern about having like a skate park and a bike park near their 02:10:45
house. And so it kind of turned into something that wasn't as accepted as we thought it was going to be. So the idea is that we 02:10:52
were going to roll out with that, but because that helped us get. 02:10:58
Some of the answers from from the from the community, is that something that we can use in the future or is that just gone because 02:11:04
it's not the right location? We still have it. So if we wanted to move forward in that location, then we do have the plan. But the 02:11:11
City Council felt more comfortable moving that location here to, to, you know, to the City Hall lot where it's closer to the 02:11:17
police station. So do we have to start completely over? 02:11:24
Yeah. So we would because it's it's a new location. So we would provide. 02:11:31
So we do have that budgeted to design the skate park at this location. I think it's important about the conversation that's 02:11:36
happening is that it was an act of possibility with funding on the table where we could have built a park and it was a small 02:11:42
amount to decide whether or not we were going to spend a lot of money on something. And we made a choice to do it because there 02:11:49
was a big group of residents that wanted it and when we put it out. 02:11:55
The larger public spoke and we were able to. 02:12:03
Risk a little bit of money to do something good for the community that then we were able to shift and create a plan that had. 02:12:07
An incredible amount of buying from the whole community and that's going to happen throughout the whole time that you guys remain 02:12:15
on this council. You will have to take risks to plan things and sometimes you will put a little bit of amount of money to go in 02:12:22
and decide if you want to move down a path and then you will have some of those plans for 20 years. 02:12:29
And then we will have some of those plans for a short amount of time. And sometimes we will save a little bit amount of money that 02:12:37
pays for an entire building. And sometimes we will learn that the costs are big and we will wait a certain amount of time until 02:12:44
new businesses come in. But we have to keep moving and planning because what hasn't stopped here is that we're growing and that 02:12:51
new businesses are coming and that we're developing. And so we have to continue to provide the resources. 02:12:58
Trash pickup, maintenance of streets that people keep coming because they like our community and we have to provide the resources. 02:13:06
So no matter what happens, we can't sit on it. We have to account for the demands that come to the people. I think this is a small 02:13:13
amount of money. We know where Jake stands. Can I ask one more question? Sure. And finish your thought. And then I think we can 02:13:20
vote on this. I think we can come to a decision. Yeah. I have no problem investing in planning. That doesn't bother me. I guess my 02:13:27
question that would be maybe helpful for the public is as we're starting this project. 02:13:34
If we kind of stick to timelines. 02:13:42
You know, few months here and there, obviously what kind of timeline are we looking at completion for a building like this? 02:13:45
Because I know right now we are outgrowing this building we already have and we've already outgrown our public works building from 02:13:51
what I understand. And so I'm wondering what the likelihood of a, you know, if everything moves smoothly, how long do you think 02:13:57
it'll take to get this done for a new City Hall? 02:14:03
We would be shooting for, and maybe we're optimistic, but shooting for the end of 26. 02:14:10
It's pretty quick. 02:14:20
To be built and moving in. 02:14:21
To be built. 02:14:24
To start building or no? To be built, to hep, To be finished? To have it finished yet? 02:14:26
No, maybe that's optimistic, but but that's that's what we're shooting for our partner mag. 02:14:32
Would really like to be into their new space by the end of 2026. 02:14:38
And and I think the earlier discussion that we should be talking about, because right now we're talking about multiple levels of 02:14:43
approvals is when will this RFP complete? 02:14:48
We expect the RFP to be to be done in probably with a recommendation to staff or to council. Sorry, I would expect the first 02:14:55
meeting in January. OK, so that's where we're gonna start. We're gonna start there and then maybe that process will be X amount of 02:15:03
months. That process would be what we would be bringing a recommended. 02:15:10
Firm an architect to the council for approval of that contract. And how long will that RFP potentially run for? Six months, four 02:15:18
months, nine months. So the design process, the design process. Thank you for giving me the right word. No problem. Yeah, the 02:15:25
design process is. 02:15:31
7 to as much as ten months and we're. 02:15:38
Rooting for the seven. OK, so at this point the public now knows we want to set for potentially if we vote on this tonight and 02:15:43
approve it the the ability to move into an RFP. We will see that maybe in December, maybe in January and then we'll start a 02:15:51
process. If the whole council decides yes, we're going to go ahead and approve that contract, then we'll see a timeline that 02:15:58
begins design at that point. This will come back to the public where we decide is this what we're going to do is it? 02:16:05
Because what I understand from that is we're going to be talking about finances, we're going to be talking about design, we're 02:16:14
going to be talking about construction costs and we're going to really get to the heart of that discussion. And I think that's 02:16:20
where we can leave it because that's several votes down the line and in public meetings. So I'm calling for a vote real quick. I 02:16:25
just want to make one more comment, which is, and I understand the skate park is hey, it's only 5 to 10,000 and then this is five 02:16:31
to 10,000. And then like the. 02:16:37
The planners for the from Boston that come in and do the lakefront master plan and just there's just so grant for that late front 02:16:44
plan. By the way, it's still money though, right? But it's a grant that we wouldn't have used tax dollars, whether they be county, 02:16:51
federal or state, the same. You've got to be smart with dollars. It's just not wasted, right, But you're talking about your point 02:16:58
is that we're planning with such a limited tax base. 02:17:05
We've got to be laser focused to be missing critical every single time that we we do a shotgun approach and throw all of these 02:17:13
things. We don't have the staff and as we just don't give them the progress of saying, hey, do this, RFP, do this, do that. 02:17:21
It gets less baseball fields, less soccer fields and different things. And we just have a really small budget. So but I appreciate 02:17:30
that. So we have to, we have to be able to balance both growth and and fiscal responsibility. We we can't just. 02:17:38
Keep tightening everything in and not anticipate the growth that's coming because because the growth is coming. So we have to take 02:17:46
a really good honest look at the growth that's coming and acknowledge it and not pretend it's not coming. But when I would say 02:17:51
this, I'm going to close the back and forth, but I would say this about funding. We understand that you're concerned about 02:17:57
planning. We understand we have to continue for the growth. And I would say the great thing that we can all agree on is that we 02:18:02
are laser focused. 02:18:07
On making sure that we are planning correctly, all of us can agree on that we want to spend money. 02:18:13
In a conservative fiscal manner that benefits the taxpayers of this community and gives them more than is a burden on them. And I 02:18:20
would say that planning just in general, especially for the new people on the council when you plan. 02:18:27
Then you are prepared to receive and accept money or spend money properly. At this point, we've exhausted the conversation. I 02:18:36
would like to call for a motion. 02:18:41
I I moved to adopt resolution 2024 dash 34 as presented. I have a first by Marty. Can I get a second? Second. I have a second by 02:18:50
Sarah. Any questions or comments? 02:18:56
OK. I would say, I would just say I appreciate you guys respecting the ability to come for a vote so you can be on the record of 02:19:03
what he's done. It shows. No. Yeah, working together. Jake, I appreciate your fiscal concern. And I think that I think that you 02:19:10
made some good points and I think we have a lot ahead of us and we'll have a great public process as we move forward. So thank 02:19:17
you. Yeah. And I would say that is a credit to good staff that care about. 02:19:24
The discussions that you guys had in the budget. 02:19:30
Song Roll Call. Sarah Marty. 02:19:33
I, I, Brett and Jake. All right, that carried and I'm going to adjourn the meeting. Thank you for coming. 02:19:38
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That's a good point, Tony. 00:00:07
All right, we're going to go ahead and get started. Today is November 20th year 2/20/2024, and the time is 601. Thank you all for 00:00:26
being here tonight. As you know, we have a vacancy on the City Council of which you're all here probably mostly to come and talk 00:00:34
to us about and apply for as we say goodbye to Amber and thank her for her time. 00:00:42
We're going to start with an invocation in the Pledge of Allegiance, and then I'm going to turn some time to our attorney to guide 00:00:51
us through the process. 00:00:55
So we'll start with the invocation, yeah. 00:00:59
Our dear Father, our dear Father in heaven, we come before Thee at the beginning of this meeting and ask for the Spirit to be here 00:01:07
and for us to have peace and harmony as we make this decision, that this decision will help to. 00:01:15
Build bridges in our community and. 00:01:27
That we'll be able to move forward with the city in a way that the citizens are happy about and. 00:01:30
We ask for thy guidance and direction in all that we do and thank you for being here with us and. 00:01:42
Honor and. 00:01:48
Give glory to your name, and we say these things in the sacred name of Jesus Christ, Amen. 00:01:51
All right. 00:01:57
Repeat after me. 00:02:01
Aye. 00:02:03
Of the United States of America under God indivisible, with privacy and justice for all. 00:02:11
All right, Jamie. 00:02:22
OK. 00:02:50
I'm Jamie Blakesley. I'm the city attorney here in Vineyard. I I want to say at the outset that I I'm honored to be to play in a 00:02:52
bit part in this process. 00:02:58
And for the 20 people that put their hat in the ring, so to speak, for this position, I I am. 00:03:04
A little bit humbled by your willingness to put yourselves out there for this, and I hope that comes across in this presentation 00:03:14
simply because we've worked really hard to make sure that we've prepared for every scenario and that we can be fair to each of you 00:03:21
and your application and your candidacy for the position. 00:03:27
So I wanted to take each of you on your chair, have a long written out procedures that deals with hopefully every possible 00:03:34
scenario that we could confront tonight. But I put together a presentation so we could see it in visual form. 00:03:42
And at least be clear on how we arrived to that point, what the law requires. And I hope that gives each of you some comfort that 00:03:50
you'll be treated fairly and with the respect that your application, your candidacy deserves. 00:03:56
So anytime a vacancy occurs on a municipal elected office, the election code is in Title 28, Chapter 1, Section 510. It requires 00:04:03
that the vacancy be filled within 30 days. 00:04:10
And within that 30 day period, there has to be 14 days notice before this meeting that we're holding today. 00:04:17
There has to be a public meeting, the appointment has to be made by a majority vote of the council. That's three votes. 00:04:25
There can be no more than two rounds of voting and we'll get into some tie break scenarios at the end and I hope that we don't 00:04:31
require them, but we're prepared if we do. 00:04:36
And then the municipality has an election officer, and that's Pam Spencer, our city recorder. So if there are questions about how 00:04:42
the election code is applied, Pam is the one that makes that decision. 00:04:47
I've provided her with advice, but the decision making has been hers and that responsibility is hers. 00:04:53
The procedures that we follow to date, so the notice of vacancy was published on the 6th. There was an application deadline of the 00:05:01
15th that was set. There were 20 qualified applicants. When I made this presentation, there were 19. One withdrew. I understand 00:05:07
we've had one other withdrawal, so there were 18. 00:05:14
Applicants who are here today. 00:05:21
On the 15th, there were interview questions sent to all of the applicants. 00:05:24
And an opportunity to provide a written response to those questions. That information was received on the 18th this Monday, and it 00:05:28
was circulated to the members of the City Council simultaneously. So no count, no one council member had an advantage over others 00:05:35
of knowing what the list was or what those responses were. They did have the freedom to reach out to each of the applicants if 00:05:41
they wished. 00:05:47
To obtain more information to speak with you, and I expect each of you probably received a few phone calls in the last few days. 00:05:54
And have been busy with that. And then today on the 20th is the special meeting of the City Council where you, the council, will 00:06:01
vote to appoint a new council member. 00:06:05
Here are the procedures for the meeting today. The mayor chairs the meeting, but the city recorder is the election officer. 00:06:11
So the mayor will keep order in the meeting, but if there are decisions as to procedure or things like that, it will be the 00:06:17
election officer's decision that will control. 00:06:22
All five members of the City Council vote. 00:06:27
This is dictated by state law. The resigning member of the council votes today in this decision. It will be her last action as a 00:06:30
member of the City Council and then when the appointment is made, she will exchange seats with whoever it is that's appointed. To 00:06:38
fill that seat, the council will receive information from the candidates and perform the statutory interview in the open meeting. 00:06:46
The order of the interviews has been determined by the master ballot process. There's a section in the election code that outlines 00:06:55
the procedure for election officers to create the ballot order. You may remember from the presidential election that the two main 00:07:02
party candidates were embedded below a list of other people, and that's because that list is generated in a random way. 00:07:09
Pam followed that process and you all are seated in the master ballot order. And so she's ordered the 18 applicants one through 18 00:07:17
and we're using that order for your presentations today. And then if there is a tie break, we'll use that order to determine the 00:07:23
pairings for the the point us. Again, I hope we don't get to that point, but we're prepared if we do. And that ordering and that 00:07:29
pairing has been done in a random way so that there's no. 00:07:36
Preferential treatment for one applicant over another. 00:07:43
Each candidate will be given 3 minutes to address the City Council and then after that a vote will occur by written ballot. 00:07:46
The state statute allows only two rounds of voting. 00:07:54
So you do the first round of voting where among the 18 applicants, the members of the City Council will mark one name on the 00:07:59
ballot, and if anyone individual gets three votes, they will be the person appointed to fill the council seat. If no one person 00:08:06
gets three votes, then you go to a second round. 00:08:13
And again, if there's ties, they're decided by acquaintance. 00:08:21
So the order of the meeting will be this. Each candidate will make a 3 minute presentation. 00:08:25
There will be round one of voting Pam and Tony. Tony Lara is the deputy city recorder. They will tally the votes together. I think 00:08:31
they've set up the table here, so they'll just do it in the in the room and then if there is a tie, either a tie for first place 00:08:37
or a tie for second place. 00:08:43
Then they will have to administer a coin toss to select who moves on from those stages. I'll walk through a couple of those 00:08:50
scenarios just. 00:08:54
So that you're aware. 00:08:58
Once the candidate if if a second round of voting is required, it will be between 2:00. 00:09:00
Applicants to finalists. 00:09:07
We will give each finalist 5 minutes to present again to the council if they would like. Then there will be a second round of 00:09:09
voting again on a written ballot. The votes will be counted. If there's a tie, there will be a coin toss and that will decide who 00:09:14
the winner. 00:09:19
Is and who's appointed and seated into that seat, and the new council member will be sworn in immediately after that. 00:09:25
So on voting in the coin toss scenarios. 00:09:33
The statute calls for a coin toss. It doesn't provide any other way. It doesn't allow you to roll a dice or draw lots or do any 00:09:38
other. 00:09:42
Random selection process and coin tosses are great when you have two people that are. 00:09:47
Because there's two sides to the coin. 00:09:53
I'm not aware of a coin that has three sides or five sides. And so we had a bit of a quandary that if you could have a scenario 00:09:56
with 18 applicants where you and five voting members of the council where five people receive one vote. 00:10:04
And how do you decide that tie being fair to all 5 people? And there's another scenario where you could have three tied for 00:10:13
second. And how do you decide that? So this is how you do it. 00:10:18
And again, recognizing with five you cannot do even number pairings. So we have to you have to whittle the five first place votes 00:10:25
down to two. That would move to the second round of voting. 00:10:32
And you would have to do this through three rounds of coin tosses in these brackets where it's listed here, candidate ABC and D&E. 00:10:40
The the way those will be ordered is based on your master ballot number. So candidate A will be the lowest number. So if if 00:10:47
candidate number one, for example, were to move into the tie break with the coin toss, one would be assigned A and then whatever 00:10:54
the highest. 00:11:02
That would be E and then BCD would be ordered sequentially from that low number to the high number. 00:11:10
A&B there would be a coin toss. C&D there would be a coin toss. Whoever ends up as E would receive a buy in that first round. It's 00:11:18
regrettable that the statute says coin toss, but it does. And so with an odd number, we have to provide somebody to buy. But we 00:11:24
believe with the master ballot ordering, at least nobody is given preferential treatment by being selected for that buy. It's 00:11:30
based on that number and how it. 00:11:36
Shakes out with the voting. 00:11:43
Round two would then. 00:11:46
So you would have the winner of A&B, the winner of C&D and then round two, candidate E would go against the winner of C&D and the 00:11:49
buy in that round would go to candidate A or B, whoever won from that. We didn't want one candidate to have a buy for two rounds. 00:11:58
And so then you would go through that round two bracket until you get a winner. That person would be one of the two finalists on 00:12:07
the final ballot. And then round three would be among the four remaining applicants. And it would be either A&B or B&C against 00:12:15
each other, and then either C or D or D or E against each other. 00:12:22
I'm hoping Murphy's Law controls and where we've prepared for this scenario, we won't need it. But if we do need it, that's that's 00:12:30
the order in which it will proceed. 00:12:34
There's another scenario where you could have a coin toss between 2 applicant, 3 people tied for second place, and again you have 00:12:40
to provide one. Candidate A by AB and C again would be ordered in the same way by the random ballot order, and so the lower the 00:12:49
number would. The lowest number from that list would be candidate A. The highest number on that list would be candidate C. 00:12:57
And then you would toss between A&B and then toss between the winner of that and candidate C. 00:13:07
And then that person would be the second person put on the ballot again, I hope, because we're prepared that Murphy's level 00:13:13
control and we won't need it. But if we do need it, that's how we'll do it, and I've prepared. 00:13:19
A really high tech document that we can fill in when, when, if we get to that point. 00:13:27
So and then voting for Round 2 will proceed and again for for round one. 00:13:36
It's not fair to any applicant to have to be here until midnight, and so we had to limit the time for each person to present. 00:13:43
That's why we did 3 minutes with as many applicants as we have. We think even with three minutes, it'll end up being, you know, 90 00:13:49
minutes to 2 hours before we're finished. 00:13:55
With that process, but for the second round where you only have two applicants, we thought a little more time was appropriate and 00:14:02
so there's 5 minutes per. 00:14:05
Per finalist for those last two, if we get to that point. 00:14:12
And then at the end, again, the winner will be appointed. So I will leave this up on the screen just so everybody can see it for 00:14:16
the time being. I think there are a couple of applicants that are joining remotely and so I may need to pull it down if we get to 00:14:22
that point. But then you'll at least have a road map of. 00:14:27
Of the order of the proceeding and I hope at least with the presentation that you understand the level of thought that went into 00:14:34
this and that we we really want fairness to control and for each of you who have. 00:14:41
Been willing to put yourselves out for this office that you'll be treated fairly and and as we go through this. 00:14:50
Thank you, Mayor. 00:14:58
All right, with that, we'll go ahead and start an all have plan, get things set up and then pay. 00:15:01
Give us just a minute. 00:15:11
You know, it's never counseling meeting. 00:15:59
And we all have. 00:16:02
We have it set up, we're ready so. 00:16:05
Oh, let me do it. 00:16:17
OK. 00:16:28
Thank you. OK, So make sure you guys stay muted until everybody's going to sign the number. 00:16:37
Besides the master ballot order, Pam, do you want me to tell you to speak into the microphone? 00:16:47
You know what? Yeah, I'll snap. 00:16:55
Something for the record. 00:16:58
Good cat, good call. Good call. 00:17:02
I'm calling you on it. You call me on it. It's great. I love it. 00:17:06
Might be a little stressful tonight, who knows what it is. So anyway, everybody was assigned a number, so we'll call you up in 00:17:10
your number order. 00:17:14
As you're seated in your your number order so that you kind of should know who's next, but I'm going to go ahead and let you come 00:17:20
up. You will get the three minutes. Tony will set the timer for each one. Once you start talking and you introduce yourselves, 00:17:27
introduce yourself and then present your qualifications and why you feel like you want to be on the council. It's kind of just 00:17:34
like answering those three questions that we sent that I sent out to you if you want to repeat that information. 00:17:41
Feel free to do that because that would be very helpful. 00:17:49
So with that, let's get started, shall we? So for number one, we have Ben Bernard's. 00:17:54
So come on up to the lectern over here. Podium if you're in Utah, right? 00:18:01
So, Tony, we good. OK. Thank you all for your time. My name is Ben Bernards. The reason why I feel like I'd be a good fit for this 00:18:07
position is given my experience. I spent almost the last 15 years of my career working in construction and project management. 00:18:15
I currently work at one of the top 15 ranked electrical contractors in the country. We did the new airport, new prison here in 00:18:25
Utah, as well as various other projects across the country and even worldwide. 00:18:31
Um, and my role with them is purchasing on logistics. So I understand how things flow, what what needs to be done to get these 00:18:37
projects done quickly. And with that, working with a lot of different, various types of people, you know, engineers, tradesmen, 00:18:45
board members. So I'm really familiar with working on a team and solving solutions on these complicated projects that we have. 00:18:53
And I also currently serve as the president of the Lakefront HOA Townhome Board. 00:19:01
So I understand the CC and Rs and the zonings and for all that, the reason why I want to be involved is, you know, I've been 00:19:07
critical of leadership in the past and I apologize if I came off aggressive. 00:19:14
But I realize I need to be part of the solution instead of just creating problems and that's what I want to do. And I feel like 00:19:23
the people and where I live in lakefront, the surrounding areas, they feel a little under represent underrepresented. And 00:19:30
especially with what's going on North End of the city and new developments coming in, I feel like I can be a good bridge for that 00:19:37
community and with my experience and and what I deal with on a daily basis. 00:19:43
I can be a liaison for them and explain to them. 00:19:51
Kind of process of how things work. And I know the development, we're not going to stop the development happening, but I think we 00:19:54
can do it in a smart way, in a way that people feel like they don't have to leave and because they don't want to be around it. And 00:20:00
we want to create a place where people feel comfortable and they want to raise their family and be a part of that. Even the people 00:20:07
moving into the new development North End of town, we want them to feel the same way. 00:20:13
So I want to be that bridge for people and I want to create more unity and positivity in our community and and be that person that 00:20:21
they can reach out to if they see issues. And I have skin in the game since I live there and I can voice those and bring them and 00:20:27
hopefully solve some of the problems that we face. 00:20:34
And justice, be a voice of unity and positivity for us. That's all I have. 00:20:41
Thanks. Thank you so much. Thank you. OK, Tony, give him a second to reset #2 Nathan Best. 00:20:44
Come on down. 00:20:54
I'm Nathan Best and I spent most of my adult life volunteering. 00:21:00
And serving in one way or another, whether it be in church callings, whether it be in councils, whether it be coaching youth and 00:21:07
high school sports. I've even spent several years as a personal growth and motivational coach, working with adults and different 00:21:14
groups of people to find those things in their lives and businesses that hold them back. 00:21:20
And then coaching them into overcoming those roadblocks, setting new goals and then achieving those goals and many times exceeding 00:21:29
those goals that they had set. 00:21:33
Now that my children are grown and I'm not involved with the sports anymore, I hope that it's only natural that I shift and get 00:21:38
back to this community and city that I've come to live in the five years that I've been here. 00:21:44
I served on athletic committees and boards, being the president of the freshman American Fork Youth Football Program when the 00:21:51
Cougar Conference was disbanded. I also served as a committee member of the Pleasant Grove Youth Lacrosse Board. 00:21:57
And I believe that successful high school sports begin with successful youth programs. I'd like to see Vineyard youth activities 00:22:05
and sports programs grow and expand and not be so dependent upon Orem City. 00:22:10
Then eventually stand on its own and nurture young boys and girls and become a productive adults who have pride in their 00:22:16
community. 00:22:20
One of my degrees in technology management from Utah Valley University has really ended up being more of a business degree. 00:22:25
It's taught me the importance of finances planning as well as finding your moving bottlenecks. 00:22:32
And improving efficiency. I'm a small business owner and created and managed several businesses and believe that small business 00:22:37
and local businesses are the backbone of our country. It's important that Vineyard City attracts businesses that will contribute 00:22:43
positively to our community and also businesses that want to be our partners and that want to stay and grow with us. 00:22:49
Having family members and friends who are first responders in Orem and Utah County means that public safety is also important to 00:22:56
me. Marrying a retired Orem City firefighter has only increased my awareness of the things that are faced day by day by those 00:23:02
first responders. It's important that we make sure our firefighters and law enforcement have the tools that they need to keep our 00:23:07
communities safe. 00:23:13
And having our own fire station within city limits I think is a great start. 00:23:20
I have no pre-existing relationships with anyone on the council. I also have no conflicts of interest. It would disqualify 00:23:25
disqualify me from holding this position. 00:23:29
And political terminology, I believe that makes me an outsider, being a blank split, a blank slate as far as Vineyard politics go. 00:23:34
And as someone who doesn't have an extra grind or preconceived points of view on things, I feel that I can bring a fresh set of 00:23:40
eyes to the issues facing our city. 00:23:45
My desire to research and make informed decisions that benefit the city and ultimately its residents, as well as my ability to 00:23:51
remain neutral and work with other people would be a great benefit to the council. Thank you. 00:23:56
OK. 00:24:02
#3 Craig. 00:24:06
All right. 00:24:10
Hello there. 00:24:12
My name is Craig Brown. 00:24:14
I just have to acknowledge I am nervous as all get out for some reason. I can talk to anybody and anybody give them time of the 00:24:18
day but you put 3 minutes in front of me and I feel like this is an undoable task. But thank you guys for going before me taking 00:24:23
out some of the time. 00:24:29
My intentions to serve. 00:24:37
Well, qualification based I guess, right. So I'll keep to that. So I had a quick decision a couple weeks ago when this came about. 00:24:42
I wouldn't have ever thought that I would. 00:24:46
Want to be on City Council? 00:24:52
But as part of acknowledging personal progress and, and, and understanding the value that I have at work, I think I would like to 00:24:55
apply those things to being on the City Council. I have a background in environmental analysis and in transportation planning for 00:25:04
big U dot projects. I feel like those things have taught me to think critically, to look for more of a. 00:25:13
A middle ground for things to be able to still get the project done because you always run up any big problems with those. 00:25:22
Umm, my main point of focus, regardless of how I sound tonight is I take hard, complex things from engineering speak and make them 00:25:29
easily to understand for the public. And I feel like being on the council, that's really your role is to try to help provide good 00:25:37
decisions, help in contributing decisions and provide transparency to the planning process and to, to. 00:25:45
The hard issues. 00:25:54
And so I feel like that I want to be able to help and serve the neighbors here and be able to help do that. I did spend a little 00:25:56
bit of time on the Planning Commission and this is kind of what's driven. I actually ended up withdrawing after a year because I 00:26:04
felt like I wasn't able to provide good enough reviews for the gravity of the decisions to make. And so to no fault of city staff 00:26:11
or anything, they are more than willing to try to help me figure those things out. I just didn't even know the questions to ask. 00:26:18
And so one of the things that I'd like to focus on, if given the opportunity to serve for a year, is to be able to try to help 00:26:26
provide more transparency, to try to break down the things for the public to give City Council and Planning Commission more of. 00:26:33
A time frame really to to look things over and to make those harder decisions. 00:26:42
Umm, and honestly, I just I think it would be, you know, the year time frame is perfect. Who knows if I want even want to do this 00:26:48
any longer, right? And so Amber, thank you for making it a year. 00:26:55
Yeah, somebody. So that's it. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you. Is Haley here? 00:27:03
OK, we're going to skip Haley. Sorry, we didn't. 00:27:10
Trying to find out where she is so. 00:27:14
So we're going to move to #5 Brett Clausen. 00:27:16
Good evening. Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to share my qualifications and vision for serving on the City Council. 00:27:24
My name is Brett Clawson and I've been a Vineyard resident since early 2018. 00:27:33
And after speaking with each of you, I'm committed to. 00:27:38
I'm committed to dedicating the time to ensure that I fulfill the Council's responsibilities, but also proactively bring forward 00:27:46