City Council Regular Meeting
Live stream not working in Chrome or Edge?
Troubleshooting steps
In your browser: open Menu (three dots) → Settings → System → turn off “Use graphics acceleration when available.” Then restart the browser.
Bookmark list
* use Ctrl+F (Cmd+F on Mac) to search in document
Loading...
* use Ctrl+F (Cmd+F on Mac) to search in document
Loading...
* use Ctrl+F (Cmd+F on Mac) to search in document
Loading...
Transcript
| All right, we're going to start our Vineyard City Council meeting. The time is 7:14. Today is May 28th, 2025. | 00:00:01 | |
| And what we're going to start with is something really fun. We're going to have our Lieutenant. | 00:00:10 | |
| Lieutenant Rockwell, come up and share our Sheriff's Office awards. | 00:00:15 | |
| Come on up. | 00:00:21 | |
| Are we inviting everybody in? | 00:00:23 | |
| I hope they do Thank you. | 00:00:25 | |
| Come on. Thank you. As many of you know, we had our awards banquet on our last council meeting night couple weeks ago for the | 00:00:27 | |
| Sheriff's Office is an annual awards banker that we hold every year. | 00:00:32 | |
| Where we recognize that was the cowboy hat and Christie whistling at me, you know? | 00:00:37 | |
| Umm, but. | 00:00:42 | |
| Every year we like to recognize, definitely do great work and we have a lot of them and well, luckily for us here in venue, we | 00:00:44 | |
| have a lot of deputies here in Vineyard actually all of them do great work. | 00:00:49 | |
| And so I just wanted to bring them here to be able to recognize them before the public before you tonight. | 00:00:53 | |
| And let everybody see him and. | 00:00:58 | |
| Give them a round of applause for all their hard work. I want to just talk about a few of the award or the awards that they got. | 00:01:00 | |
| So the first couple are what we call a certificate of appreciation. | 00:01:05 | |
| And the first one went to our entire FTO program. FTO is our field training program. | 00:01:08 | |
| When you become a cop, you get out of the Academy. You have to be trained. It's a 13 week program. | 00:01:14 | |
| So you're in pretty. It's pretty, in fact. | 00:01:19 | |
| One of them back there is actually in the program right now. | 00:01:22 | |
| But umm. | 00:01:25 | |
| It's a pretty intense program. It's really hard and it's a lot of work for the guys that are training the new deputies. | 00:01:27 | |
| Writing a passenger for a cop is not a fun thing to do. | 00:01:32 | |
| So you're doing that for 12 hours a day training them? | 00:01:36 | |
| And here in Vineyard, and the names that we had that were on this list that got the certificate of appreciation is Deputy Austin | 00:01:39 | |
| Baird. | 00:01:42 | |
| Deputy Jordan Sainsbury's here tonight if he'll stand up. | 00:01:46 | |
| Deputy Riley Redford will come on in. | 00:01:49 | |
| And Deputy Sarah Davis. | 00:01:51 | |
| She's out there hiding. | 00:01:54 | |
| So. | 00:01:55 | |
| Jordans right here. Come on, Jordan. Sam, your knee hurts, I know, but you can do it. | 00:02:04 | |
| Wait, are you guys? | 00:02:09 | |
| You're all gonna stay here so we can get pictures? Yeah, they're all gonna stay till we're done. But they received the certificate | 00:02:10 | |
| of appreciation for being involved in the FTO program last year, just so everybody knows. | 00:02:16 | |
| We put through over 15 new deputies, which equated over 4600 hours of training of new deputies here at the Sheriff's Office. So. | 00:02:22 | |
| Congratulations to them. | 00:02:30 | |
| Thank you so much. | 00:02:32 | |
| All right. | 00:02:34 | |
| Don't go anywhere. | 00:02:38 | |
| Yeah, I don't go anywhere. | 00:02:40 | |
| Bullock keep them here. | 00:02:42 | |
| OK. The next one is Carson home? He's our detective here in Vineyard. Go ahead and stand up, Carson. | 00:02:44 | |
| One of the things that we pride ourselves at the Sheriff's Office is our investigative units. We have really great investigative | 00:02:51 | |
| units that that get used all over the state, get called by other agencies when they have big cases. | 00:02:56 | |
| The whole investigations unit that deputy or detective Home works in got the certificate of appreciation for a bunch of awesome | 00:03:01 | |
| cases that they worked on last year. | 00:03:06 | |
| Throughout the county involving. | 00:03:11 | |
| Crimes against persons, crimes of property, crimes, homicides, all kinds of things that happen throughout the county. Some of | 00:03:14 | |
| these cases actually were some things in in Vineyard. | 00:03:18 | |
| One of the things that. | 00:03:23 | |
| Detective Detective Home got last year. | 00:03:24 | |
| As he was the highest in arrest for all investigations for the first few months when he when he moved into that position. | 00:03:27 | |
| And he's clearing out cases in Vineyard. | 00:03:34 | |
| In record time, doing a great job for us that are really big. | 00:03:36 | |
| Umm, fraud case that we had here in the city that he worked on with the deputies and they worked really hard. | 00:03:40 | |
| And solve that case as well. So we just want to recognize Carson home for his hard work in our investigation unit. | 00:03:45 | |
| All right. Next one is Deputy Chandler Catlin. | 00:03:56 | |
| Come on up. | 00:03:59 | |
| Deputy Catlin he. | 00:04:03 | |
| And this it says he's killing it. He does a great job. He's very proactive in our city. | 00:04:06 | |
| Just to give you guys an idea of some of the stuff that he did last year. | 00:04:11 | |
| He had over he had 91 drug arrests in our city last year. | 00:04:14 | |
| He had 37 DUI's. | 00:04:18 | |
| He stopped, made 698 traffic stops, about 277 citations. | 00:04:21 | |
| That is a lot of work. He did a lot of work in our city. | 00:04:26 | |
| Now some of you might be thinking, is there that much drugs in vineyard, right? | 00:04:29 | |
| Drugs are everywhere. | 00:04:33 | |
| Vineyards not unique. | 00:04:34 | |
| The difference is, are we out there looking for me getting them? | 00:04:36 | |
| And that's what Deputy Catlin does. The other great thing is, is. | 00:04:39 | |
| In this write up that talks about all those things but it also says. | 00:04:42 | |
| When we had problems with parking, he was the first one to go out and clear out no parking areas and do the little things like | 00:04:46 | |
| that. So whether it's drugs or something, something simple as parking. | 00:04:51 | |
| He does a great job in Vineyard of being proactive and working hard to keep our residents safe. | 00:04:56 | |
| That's awesome. | 00:05:01 | |
| All right. The next one is Deputy Jordan Sainsbury. Come back up, Jordan. | 00:05:07 | |
| Well, some of you guys might recognize him next to me. He is the longest tenured Vineyard deputy. | 00:05:11 | |
| The write up address is five years, but it's actually I looked at the calendar, it was February. | 00:05:16 | |
| Of 2019. | 00:05:20 | |
| When Jordan started with Vineyard. | 00:05:23 | |
| With us here. | 00:05:25 | |
| So he's been here over six years now. | 00:05:26 | |
| And Jordan does fantastic work. One of the things that Jordan likes does is he's a great mentor to the new deputies. | 00:05:30 | |
| We get a lot of new deputies coming into vineyards that we get off of FTO. It's a great place to bring them here and get exposure | 00:05:36 | |
| to calls and train them and he takes takes it seriously and mentoring them. | 00:05:41 | |
| You'll notice if. | 00:05:46 | |
| If he has a shift at 6:00. | 00:05:47 | |
| He's here by probably 5:15 no matter what, sometimes even before that. | 00:05:50 | |
| So he is a great worker. | 00:05:55 | |
| He's a great asset to us. He knows the city, he knows you, he knows the neighborhoods. If a call comes out where we've got history | 00:05:59 | |
| there, he's the first one to let everybody know on the radio. Hey. | 00:06:03 | |
| Just be aware this is what we had here last week or last year or whatever it was. | 00:06:08 | |
| He is just a really good asset. | 00:06:12 | |
| And enjoys this time here in vineyards and we're going to keep them as long as we can so. | 00:06:14 | |
| All right. Those are our awards that our deputies here in Vineyard received. | 00:06:23 | |
| They really do great work. I just want you guys to know that. | 00:06:27 | |
| We appreciate your support. | 00:06:30 | |
| Working in Vineyard is really is really awesome. We have great support from the council and the mayor and the citizens. | 00:06:33 | |
| We feel it, we appreciate it, and I really appreciate all the hard work that they do to keep vineyards safe. | 00:06:39 | |
| That's awesome. Listen, let's all stand for these guys and give them around applause and then we're going to have you come up and | 00:06:44 | |
| do pictures. | 00:06:47 | |
| He used to work. He was no longer in Vineyard. He works for the Sheriff's Office. | 00:07:11 | |
| I didn't get an award, they got award. | 00:07:27 | |
| All right. | 00:07:51 | |
| Good work for. | 00:08:00 | |
| Hey. | 00:08:01 | |
| All right, that brings us to our work session where we're going to be talking about our purchasing policy and our finance | 00:08:20 | |
| directory. | 00:08:24 | |
| Director Christy Bayless will. | 00:08:28 | |
| Lead that discussion. | 00:08:30 | |
| Good evening Mayor and council and citizens. | 00:08:37 | |
| Tonight is This is not an actionable item on the budget it or on. Sorry, I've been talking budget too much lately. | 00:08:40 | |
| On the agenda what has been brought to the Council is a concern that our. | 00:08:47 | |
| Approvals for our purchasing policy might need to be reduced. | 00:08:52 | |
| And so the presentation that I'm giving to you tonight is going to show where we are and our purchasing policy as well as other | 00:08:56 | |
| cities in Utah County. | 00:09:00 | |
| And so if you happen to take, if you look at the agenda. | 00:09:05 | |
| What you see up on the screen is what are actually purchasing policy guide looks like. | 00:09:09 | |
| I have put that in a little bit prettier presentation. | 00:09:16 | |
| And we'll show you that now. | 00:09:19 | |
| So this is our current Vineyard matrix. | 00:09:23 | |
| The legend is down at the bottom. DH is department head. | 00:09:28 | |
| See, I'm a city manager. | 00:09:32 | |
| FD is finance director. | 00:09:34 | |
| TA is purchasing agent. | 00:09:36 | |
| We do not in Vineyard have a separate. | 00:09:38 | |
| Purchasing purchasing agent, I actually fulfill that role for Vineyard. | 00:09:41 | |
| So I'm not only a department head, I'm also the purchasing. | 00:09:45 | |
| Agent. | 00:09:49 | |
| And then the GB is for the governing board. | 00:09:50 | |
| Obviously when it says mayor, we know who that is. | 00:09:52 | |
| So this is where we currently are. I'm just going to walk you through it real quick. | 00:09:56 | |
| So can I interrupt? I'm so sorry, I just want to make sure I understand. | 00:10:00 | |
| You're you're the purchasing agent, the department head and the finance director or is there? | 00:10:05 | |
| OK, Art. As you'll notice on here, there's not one that says finance director, but I fulfill the role as a. | 00:10:11 | |
| Department heads for finance items but I can't represent. | 00:10:17 | |
| I can't be the purchasing agent and the department head on the same. Yes, good question. Thank you for clarifying that. | 00:10:21 | |
| I did want to mention one other thing that is not represented anywhere in the presentation. | 00:10:27 | |
| We have our city credit cards that city employees have. | 00:10:32 | |
| That are through Zions Bank. | 00:10:36 | |
| And we have a program that is called Spend Clarity where they go in and upload their. | 00:10:38 | |
| Receipts and transactions and code them. | 00:10:43 | |
| The limit that we have set on credit card transactions is $200. | 00:10:45 | |
| So anything that is over $200 that is charged to a credit card. | 00:10:50 | |
| Has to also be signed off by the director. | 00:10:55 | |
| And then obviously, we have Corian Human resources that signs off on Eric's. So if you have any questions about that, let me know | 00:10:58 | |
| that. | 00:11:02 | |
| It is very low considering for credit card charges, but I think that that's maybe an area. | 00:11:07 | |
| Where there's more instances of fraud. | 00:11:12 | |
| And so I think it's important that we keep it at that 200. I feel really good about that level of approval. But again, that's not | 00:11:14 | |
| on here because that's only relative to credit card purchases. | 00:11:19 | |
| In general, up to $5000. | 00:11:24 | |
| The purchasing agent or the department head or someone that works under them that they designate can sign off on that purchase | 00:11:27 | |
| amount. | 00:11:31 | |
| From $5000 and 1 penny up to 25,000. | 00:11:37 | |
| Not only do you have to have approval from the purchasing agent and the department head. | 00:11:41 | |
| You either have to show that you have 3 price quotes or that you are piggybacking on a state contract. | 00:11:46 | |
| The next one 25,000 and one penny to $50,000. | 00:11:53 | |
| Is again the three price quotes or state contract. | 00:11:57 | |
| That in this instance we have to have a mayor's signature added or that designee. | 00:12:00 | |
| I did want to mention as we go down through this, as we look at the other cities. | 00:12:06 | |
| You will see that a lot of ours say and and and. | 00:12:09 | |
| And a lot of the other cities say or or or. So we're actually pretty strict as far as general policies go because a lot of our | 00:12:13 | |
| state and instead of or. | 00:12:18 | |
| Umm, anything that's over the $50,000 mark. | 00:12:24 | |
| Has to be a sealed bid, a state contract which I already mentioned or a request for proposal. | 00:12:29 | |
| So RFP is a request for proposal. | 00:12:36 | |
| The difference between a still bid and an RFP? | 00:12:38 | |
| And sealed bid is when people are able to submit. | 00:12:42 | |
| Bids for a project. | 00:12:46 | |
| And then the purchasing agent meets with everyone who put in a bid and they open them. | 00:12:48 | |
| Together. | 00:12:53 | |
| And the purchasing agent says they gave me this, this and this so they do qualify. | 00:12:54 | |
| These are the prices that were given us and they make the decision at that time. | 00:12:58 | |
| An RFP is when the information is also in it and then a committee reviews. | 00:13:02 | |
| Those and then makes the best decision for the city. So that's the difference between those two. | 00:13:07 | |
| And again, we add that it has to be on their or designate, designate and the governing board. | 00:13:13 | |
| Now you'll notice it says next to it that purchase. It says no public and public works purchases. | 00:13:18 | |
| That's because there is an exception for that for the bid process. | 00:13:24 | |
| Because public works projects are often infrastructure and very high dollar. | 00:13:28 | |
| And so they are given an exception to. | 00:13:32 | |
| $50,000 limit. | 00:13:35 | |
| So up to 2100 and 25,000 again it's the still bid state contractor RFP. | 00:13:39 | |
| The purchasing agent department head. | 00:13:46 | |
| So both of them and the city manager and the mayor. | 00:13:48 | |
| So all four are required for anything between 50 and 125. | 00:13:52 | |
| And then the last one, anything that's over 125,000. | 00:13:57 | |
| Is sealed 5th state contract or RFP? | 00:14:00 | |
| And then again, the governing board has been added to that one as well. That needs to sign off on that. | 00:14:04 | |
| So. | 00:14:12 | |
| I had this wonderful presentation with all this stuff, but I feel like we're all kind of a little bit maybe burned out at this | 00:14:14 | |
| point. | 00:14:17 | |
| This is and it's hard to see, but again, these slides will be put up on the website for anybody to look at. | 00:14:20 | |
| So I have individual slides showing the cities that we looked at. | 00:14:26 | |
| And then this was just a culmination of all of them. | 00:14:30 | |
| You'll see like Saratoga Springs only has two matrixes. | 00:14:33 | |
| One is 0 to 40,000 and then 40,000 and above. | 00:14:37 | |
| Spanish Fork has three different tiers or matrixes. | 00:14:41 | |
| Again, we have 6, So I think we're looking pretty good there. And then in addition to that, we have the 200 that's related to | 00:14:46 | |
| credit card transactions. | 00:14:50 | |
| So again I will put this on the website so you can review it. | 00:14:54 | |
| But I wanted to go back and show you what the average matrix among Utah cities was. | 00:14:57 | |
| Maybe I should read them off in case you didn't see. | 00:15:04 | |
| So this one we were able to look at Linden, Saratoga Springs, Spanish Fork. | 00:15:07 | |
| Orem, Lehi, American Fort, Springville, Eagle Mountain, Highland and Pleasant Grove. | 00:15:13 | |
| And when I say we we have a finance intern that was really diligent in getting all of this information. He also tried to get | 00:15:20 | |
| information for Provo, Payson and Napleton, but was not able to find that on their website. It was not easily accessible. | 00:15:26 | |
| So thank you to that for his work on that. | 00:15:35 | |
| Anyway, here is the average matrix among Utah cities. We are on the right. You can see the vineyards current matrix. | 00:15:39 | |
| And on the left is the most common across the town, across cities in the county. | 00:15:46 | |
| I would also like to mention, I've sent this presentation to Tad Rasmussen. He is in the Finance Department, Procurement division | 00:15:51 | |
| at Utah County. He's the purchasing agent there. | 00:15:56 | |
| And I asked him, I said this is what I'm presenting. What are your thoughts? | 00:16:02 | |
| And he replied with seems reasonable. | 00:16:06 | |
| So I did reach out to get someone else's opinion. Besides what? | 00:16:09 | |
| The information showed so again you can see from this. | 00:16:13 | |
| We are well within what cities in our county are doing. | 00:16:17 | |
| Again, this is just for information if the Council decides that at another time they want to make changes. | 00:16:21 | |
| There that liberty to do that because the the amounts that we're showing were voted on by council. | 00:16:28 | |
| So this is just informational. | 00:16:34 | |
| Any questions? | 00:16:36 | |
| OK, Council, any questions? | 00:16:38 | |
| Hello, thanks for all your hard work. I love seeing how we compare to other to other cities. That's really helpful. I think it is | 00:16:42 | |
| too. | 00:16:45 | |
| Eric gave me a paper, I think maybe Zach made it as well, showing like the breakdown of how many purchases actually land above | 00:16:48 | |
| these numbers. Yes. | 00:16:53 | |
| And I have that as a slide too, but I wasn't sure how deep we wanted to go. | 00:16:58 | |
| So, yeah, that's this slide. It shows you for fiscal year 24. | 00:17:01 | |
| We have 4504 so 4504 transactions. | 00:17:06 | |
| So if we were to take and we didn't have any limitations, all transaction had to go to council with 24 meetings a year that would | 00:17:11 | |
| require council approval for just over 100, so almost 188 transactions per meeting. | 00:17:18 | |
| And then you can see it goes up from there. So anything from 0 to $200. | 00:17:27 | |
| Would require approval. | 00:17:32 | |
| For there would be 2591 transactions, which meant 1913 would need to be. | 00:17:35 | |
| Approved per meeting. So then that would be close to 80 per meeting. | 00:17:40 | |
| And then you can follow it on up. | 00:17:43 | |
| Yeah, it just shows that. | 00:17:46 | |
| In total, and again, this is fiscal year 24. | 00:17:48 | |
| Just because that's our first year, that's the year that we have full information on. | 00:17:51 | |
| So we were able to go in and. | 00:17:55 | |
| So how big this would be? | 00:17:58 | |
| Our intention at this point is in going forward on July, June 11th meeting. | 00:18:00 | |
| We will be giving the council members a list of all of the things that were in the prior. | 00:18:06 | |
| A month by line item so you will be able to see that. | 00:18:10 | |
| And be aware of what's going on and let us know if there's any concern. That's great. And I think I think maybe for the public, | 00:18:13 | |
| and I'm sure you've already said that and most people understand that this is all. | 00:18:18 | |
| Budgeted items like if something in our budget needs to change. | 00:18:24 | |
| To be able to have one of these transactions that go through, then it would have to come to the governing board to make that | 00:18:28 | |
| adjustment. | 00:18:31 | |
| Actually with anything right, with any budget like within. | 00:18:35 | |
| Sorry. | 00:18:38 | |
| I'm trying to speak your language. You go ahead and explain it well. I think that was a very good point. We can't spend anything | 00:18:39 | |
| that we haven't budgeted for. A lot of the higher dollar, we actually have a contract that rolls over from year to year, for | 00:18:44 | |
| instance, Republic Services. | 00:18:49 | |
| They service all the citizens, all the trash, and for the city as well. | 00:18:54 | |
| And so that is a contract that we have that was brought to council and approved. | 00:18:58 | |
| So as you see those come through on your monthly reports, you'll go, Oh yeah, we've already talked about that one. So you will see | 00:19:02 | |
| that there are recurring high dollar ones that have been approved in a council meeting. | 00:19:08 | |
| But yes, anything within these dollar amounts you can guarantee if you find something and you're like, wait a minute. | 00:19:14 | |
| That was. | 00:19:19 | |
| $17,000 you can reach out to me and I can provide you with this gate contract. | 00:19:20 | |
| Or the three bids to back that up with the invoice, which you can also see on the tentative and final budget approvals that you | 00:19:26 | |
| make annually as well. | 00:19:31 | |
| Yeah. And I think what I was trying to say before was just different fund balances because if a department decides that they want | 00:19:36 | |
| to go to a different conference and another one, they can decide that without. | 00:19:41 | |
| US deciding anything unless it. | 00:19:47 | |
| Right. So that's a great question. So I'm traveling and training. | 00:19:50 | |
| They will have a line item budget and say that they're going to go to these three conferences that in total it's $5000. | 00:19:55 | |
| Now they may decide this one's not as great and we don't need to go to that one, so we're going to go to the other one. As long as | 00:20:01 | |
| they are less than the 5000, they don't have to bring it back to council. | 00:20:05 | |
| Because that's the dollar amount that was approved on budget. Does that make sense to everybody? Yeah. Thank you for your work. | 00:20:10 | |
| Did you have anything? | 00:20:13 | |
| Yeah. Do you want me to walk you through how I think this is getting gained? | 00:20:18 | |
| No, but if there is something that you would like to be changed. | 00:20:22 | |
| I think we're open to that discussion, so. | 00:20:25 | |
| If you have a prior background. | 00:20:29 | |
| I still work for the public group. We're the ones that set up the state code for procurement, so changing from paper to electronic | 00:20:31 | |
| purchasing. | 00:20:35 | |
| Is my background. | 00:20:40 | |
| There's only what three things that the state mandates to cities that we have to do, which is 1. We have to do an annual budget, | 00:20:42 | |
| you know, it's at a certain time or whatever. | 00:20:48 | |
| But the state does not dictate the. | 00:20:54 | |
| Specificity as to how detailed that is and so for the vast majority of our budget. | 00:20:57 | |
| Unless it's been updated today. | 00:21:03 | |
| It will say meetings or travel or miscellaneous, and so there's no specificity if you go to other cities. | 00:21:05 | |
| It will say the. | 00:21:14 | |
| Utah Recorders Association conference and have the exact dollar amount disclosing what it is, so there's no question as to this is | 00:21:15 | |
| what it is. | 00:21:20 | |
| By leaving that specificity, I don't know about it until I have one vote a year in order to see that So, but there there's nothing | 00:21:25 | |
| illegal about it. It just means that I as a representative don't get to see it. | 00:21:32 | |
| You know, last year. OK, hold on. Let's pause for a second. | 00:21:38 | |
| Do you want to explain how that actually works? | 00:21:41 | |
| Yes, actually the Friday before our last council meeting, Jake did receive the line item detail, as did all council members. | 00:21:43 | |
| And I asked them to reach out to me if they had any questions. So you do have the line item detail that goes with each, right? And | 00:21:51 | |
| so I guess that's important about that. | 00:21:58 | |
| Change. OK, right. I agree. So what would you like to see? | 00:22:04 | |
| I think that it needs to be spelled out as to where we're traveling, like I looked in the budget. | 00:22:08 | |
| We traveled to the North Carolina Association last year in the. | 00:22:14 | |
| In the Ledger, right? | 00:22:19 | |
| Why are we in North Carolina that would raise a red flag as Christy is that something that will be on the monthly line items for | 00:22:21 | |
| the council to see and usually. | 00:22:26 | |
| Because of all the. | 00:22:32 | |
| Scrutiny that we've been under. | 00:22:34 | |
| On the line item, detail if the. | 00:22:35 | |
| Finance director is aware of where the conferences will be held. It will say that. | 00:22:38 | |
| On some of the line item details you'll notice it will say this or this. | 00:22:43 | |
| There may be two conferences, they're just going to choose one as long as it's within that dollar amount. | 00:22:47 | |
| I wanted to also mention that GFOA which is the governing. | 00:22:52 | |
| Expert for the Government Finance Officers Association. They do not have a recommend. | 00:22:57 | |
| A recommendation for this because every city is so unique and so different. | 00:23:03 | |
| So. | 00:23:08 | |
| Council came up with. | 00:23:09 | |
| Was very close to what other cities in the county are doing. | 00:23:11 | |
| OK. And the line items that we've been looking at for over 10 years are pretty? | 00:23:15 | |
| They're pretty clear. | 00:23:20 | |
| And so being able to see this and I think. | 00:23:22 | |
| The idea of having it monthly, I think answers your question. I don't think you can get much clearer than the way that they're | 00:23:25 | |
| articulating it. And it looks like Christie's saying she's going to try to be even additionally clear, which. | 00:23:32 | |
| I think it looks like that was been met for you. Is it OK if I go from beginning to end? | 00:23:40 | |
| Without being interrupted. Is that OK? | 00:23:46 | |
| OK, well, just to just hold on. | 00:23:50 | |
| Just Jake, let me finish what I'm saying. | 00:23:53 | |
| Just to set a boundary for this, we have a lot of things on the agenda. So I'm going to go ahead and let you know that we probably | 00:23:56 | |
| have about 7 minutes left on this item. | 00:24:00 | |
| So make sure that you give enough time for the rest of the Council to have. | 00:24:05 | |
| Someone had to talk. I can be brief. | 00:24:09 | |
| It's I think it's more of the decision making like whether it be the 80 to 90,000 in food or being in North Carolina, it's like | 00:24:13 | |
| are we there or are we not? | 00:24:18 | |
| Or World Trade Center, just different. | 00:24:23 | |
| A point of clarification. I don't even know if I'm using it. I think it's a point of clarification. Point of clarification. | 00:24:28 | |
| You're quoting 90,000. You're quoting 90,000 and. | 00:24:35 | |
| And from what I've been able, what's been handed to me? | 00:24:40 | |
| Is if we go through every single food transaction. | 00:24:43 | |
| And I'm talking like. | 00:24:48 | |
| $3000 on candy for Boo Palooza talking. We had like an employee appreciation lunch where we ordered Costa Vida during the summer. | 00:24:51 | |
| We're all invited to that every year. Those also include. | 00:24:57 | |
| Sponsors sponsorships and it does and it also includes we have a, we have a Communities that Care. They do dinner, but then we get | 00:25:04 | |
| reimbursed by the Communities That Care coalition. | 00:25:09 | |
| Our total right here. | 00:25:14 | |
| IS 24,523 and $0.60. | 00:25:16 | |
| And that going through the Ledger. | 00:25:21 | |
| Blue Appaloosa. This is all the transactions in the Ledger in the Ledger. | 00:25:23 | |
| Show food. So if you want to keep saying 90,000, I would really appreciate you showing me what you're getting from. | 00:25:28 | |
| Because I. | 00:25:34 | |
| I would like us to be accurate, especially from right. I can bring a next meeting. | 00:25:35 | |
| Thank you. | 00:25:40 | |
| But it's the it's the decision making, I think that in going through the Ledger of like. | 00:25:42 | |
| The average, the average city isn't buying these. So it's more of like is our department heads making those decisions to buy that | 00:25:48 | |
| or OK, I like what you're saying. So you're asking us to change the purchase policy? | 00:25:56 | |
| Hold on. Wait. I'm asking for a point of clarity. You're asking, you're saying that other cities have a different purchasing | 00:26:04 | |
| policy guide. | 00:26:07 | |
| No. So in speaking with the state auditor, I think the most important thing is that putting putting it on the 10 cent item of the | 00:26:11 | |
| following month like you're saying. | 00:26:16 | |
| Moving forward and starting next month, we're going to be going through and disclosing what we actually what sit on. Those things | 00:26:21 | |
| would be huge. | 00:26:25 | |
| OK. So I know it's after the fact. I want to make sure that I'm understanding you, Jake. So we're talking about decision making. | 00:26:29 | |
| These numbers show how many things we would have to have on consent based off of approval amounts. | 00:26:36 | |
| And then this purchasing policy. | 00:26:43 | |
| Christie showed you what is done by other cities. | 00:26:46 | |
| The average and there was also a list. So was there something in particular on pricing or Yeah, I think yeah, I think anything | 00:26:49 | |
| that is in the above $5000 mark should be disclosed and just put in the in the monthly meet just. | 00:26:56 | |
| As a report, hey, these were the decisions we made this past month, OK. And it looks like it's going to be itemized for everything | 00:27:03 | |
| in a monthly report. So you'll have that. So I wouldn't worry about that. Looks like that's been done decision making. However, it | 00:27:09 | |
| looks like we have this here. I'm feeling really comfortable with the decision making. | 00:27:14 | |
| I mean, we are more stringent than other cities, which is incredible. | 00:27:22 | |
| We don't have an or, we have an and we have multiple layers of signatures, which is pretty impressive. | 00:27:27 | |
| I just wanted to. | 00:27:32 | |
| I have a question. Are you saying that you want those on consent or you're satisfied with the monthly report? | 00:27:33 | |
| Because my it would be amazing to get consent beforehand so that we went on the record of you were OK with this type of travel and | 00:27:39 | |
| it'd be amazing that I or I was as well. | 00:27:44 | |
| But if I mean if the Council doesn't advise that at least just a disclosure of what we were doing and I would say we do have that | 00:27:49 | |
| on the tentative and annual budget for what we're OK with training those types of things. | 00:27:55 | |
| Even. | 00:28:02 | |
| I mean travel that you've discussed in the past have all gone through the same rigorous process. And I would encourage you, Jake, | 00:28:03 | |
| because I don't have any problem with. | 00:28:07 | |
| Your concerns are valid when it comes to travel. | 00:28:12 | |
| I've actually met with a few different department heads and I asked them those questions, like which conferences are you going to | 00:28:16 | |
| that are out of state? | 00:28:19 | |
| And what I'm learning is it's not very many and specifically, I could be wrong and maybe Nissin can answer this, but the North | 00:28:22 | |
| Carolina one? | 00:28:26 | |
| My memory is that our tree, our arborist. | 00:28:31 | |
| He was recognized in a national conference, and so he was being celebrated with a keynote speaker. I don't know. There was | 00:28:35 | |
| something special. Yeah. So. | 00:28:39 | |
| Last year we had our Arvest who was recognized. | 00:28:45 | |
| National conference for greens like landscaping, grounds maintenance. | 00:28:48 | |
| Ask for achieving the leadership. | 00:28:53 | |
| Level of certification. | 00:28:56 | |
| And we we would definitely want to recognize him for his hard work. It was. | 00:28:58 | |
| It was about a year plus program. | 00:29:04 | |
| To recognize him for his hard work and also. | 00:29:07 | |
| Ensure that his staff was able to. | 00:29:10 | |
| See that knowledge it was he recognized, but they also had the opportunity to. | 00:29:13 | |
| Learn more about. | 00:29:17 | |
| More more sustainable. | 00:29:19 | |
| Ground maintenance and obviously landscaping stuff as well. And just for a point of clarity, you said you felt like it was | 00:29:21 | |
| meaningful to concern and I would just want to clarify it. The concern was are we approving it? | 00:29:28 | |
| And we are doing it at the budget. | 00:29:36 | |
| Is the decision making acceptable? That's something that you should probably comment on. And can we see it? And I think we'll see | 00:29:38 | |
| it in that report. So I have no problem with someone wanting to focus on being conservative in our budget, is what I was trying to | 00:29:44 | |
| say. OK, So what I want to speak to is the culture of the city I think has been misrepresented. | 00:29:51 | |
| And if when I compare us to other cities when I'm scouting with my council friends at different meetings or we go to lunch. | 00:29:57 | |
| I pay for my own lunch and I tell them we talk about different routines and I went and toured. | 00:30:07 | |
| Different council chambers and they were like, oh, and this is where we eat our lunch or our dinner before our council meeting. I | 00:30:14 | |
| go. | 00:30:18 | |
| Yeah, we don't get dinner, they go. You don't get dinner at every single council meeting. | 00:30:21 | |
| What's your staffing? They've been at the office all day and you don't feed your staff? And I'm like, yeah, we're really strict | 00:30:26 | |
| over here. And then I'm up in the staff room upstairs and there's like a pile of soda and my son is like, I am. | 00:30:32 | |
| How do I ask for a soda? And I'm told that the staff actually pays for their own stash of soda cans on the counter in the stack | 00:30:39 | |
| area. They pull together funds to share the cost of the soda because we are so fiscally conservative. | 00:30:47 | |
| I just think that there are so many things that our staff are doing. We've had people, we've had conferences that they don't go to | 00:30:57 | |
| because they're trying to be fiscally responsible. | 00:31:02 | |
| I think that are we perfect? No. I'm sure there's things that we could look at and fix or change, but to me the. | 00:31:06 | |
| The culture and the job satisfaction and the little things like that. | 00:31:14 | |
| It. | 00:31:19 | |
| Makes me upset if I'm trying to use words that are appropriate. I would like to make a motion to pay for the staff. Soda like that | 00:31:21 | |
| is ridiculous to me. I would love to change the budget so that we're feeding the staff when we're doing 6 hour meetings and | 00:31:27 | |
| they've already been at work all day. So. | 00:31:33 | |
| I feel like we hyper focus on so many things that it's creating a really hard atmosphere with food specifically when there's an | 00:31:39 | |
| exaggeration on. | 00:31:44 | |
| What we're actually spending on food, I feel like it's hyper focusing on all the issues. | 00:31:49 | |
| So until you can prove me different, Jake, I would like to add to the budget. | 00:31:53 | |
| Feeding our staff, I would like to add to the budget the soda supply. | 00:31:58 | |
| Like this is ridiculous. And my focus is have someone as long as you're willing to vote on it so it's disclosed like. | 00:32:03 | |
| There's another one, and I think we've gotten this. | 00:32:11 | |
| Conversation. Well, I hold on just for a point of clarity. As long as we're willing to vote on it, we do vote on it annually. Our | 00:32:13 | |
| decisions are labeled. We can see it in our report. | 00:32:19 | |
| We do see it. You're just getting it monthly now it's different. | 00:32:27 | |
| You do approve it. It doesn't change. You're just getting to look at it. | 00:32:34 | |
| Often, no, that's not characterized. No, that is characterizing it is accurate. | 00:32:39 | |
| OK, let me end this by saying, and it's the same thing with the bicycle Commission going to the conference in San Francisco on the | 00:32:44 | |
| taxpayers time. | 00:32:49 | |
| Even go to San Francisco. Like why are we? Why are we hyper focusing on travel to San Francisco? | 00:32:53 | |
| Because it's taxpayer dollars that like a normal city does. Yeah. And go. No, a normal city does do that. I was talking to another | 00:33:01 | |
| city, and they send their council members to DC every year. Yeah. Your court is wrong. Several different cities that travel across | 00:33:07 | |
| the United States is very common. And you make it seem like we're some wild, frivolous city. It's not just that, Jake. You're | 00:33:14 | |
| making statements. You're. No, you're making statements. | 00:33:20 | |
| About our finances that are not clear. | 00:33:27 | |
| See, there is a, there is a trip that you're talking about where the other cities went to it and our city participated in it. And | 00:33:30 | |
| when you say normal cities. | 00:33:35 | |
| And the Council. | 00:33:41 | |
| Suddenly has a conversation about it. They're saying we were not the only city, we did not. | 00:33:43 | |
| Randomly come up with something to go to on our own, We participated. | 00:33:47 | |
| With the rest of the cities. | 00:33:52 | |
| Across the state. | 00:33:54 | |
| Because we are prioritizing the things that our residents care about. | 00:33:55 | |
| And that we vote on in this budget. I just want it as long as it is publicly discussed and brought the information and put it on. | 00:34:00 | |
| On a. | 00:34:09 | |
| Consent item of everything that are in anything over. | 00:34:11 | |
| 5000 and then just. | 00:34:15 | |
| In the report, so it's disclosed like and I'm totally OK, like you guys are elected officials. | 00:34:17 | |
| And we will have different agreements on. | 00:34:22 | |
| You know, waste, someone say waste. It's just they're just opinions or hey, this is a priority. Like you want to increase. I'm OK | 00:34:26 | |
| with that. | 00:34:29 | |
| What I just want is that it's disclosed, so it's not an annual thing. | 00:34:33 | |
| And so my last point, I know this is an opinion. | 00:34:38 | |
| We don't have the tax base of all of those cities that we're talking about. | 00:34:41 | |
| Like that, we're a fraction of their size and budget. | 00:34:46 | |
| All right, so. | 00:34:49 | |
| Thank you, Jake, for your comment. I'm going to make a comment and then I'm going to give time for the rest of the council and | 00:34:51 | |
| even Eric has he has to stand up. | 00:34:54 | |
| Umm. My thought on this is that. | 00:34:57 | |
| We don't have the same tax base as everybody, but we do have the appropriate tax base for us and we do spend it in a fiscally | 00:35:01 | |
| conservative way, as has been shown here. When I'm looking at the purchasing policy guide, it looks like we have one of the most | 00:35:07 | |
| stringent, stringent approval processes. | 00:35:13 | |
| It's been clarified. Even if you go through this policy guide, it talks about itemization. I think that that's clear for the | 00:35:20 | |
| people. | 00:35:23 | |
| And now our staff has taken an additional step that goes beyond what other cities are doing to clarify and itemize, just to make | 00:35:27 | |
| sure that everybody knows what we are approving annually, what we do quarterly, which was already being handed out there. | 00:35:35 | |
| What we put on approval, which we can see the hours and times that it would take to get through the stuff and then how stringent | 00:35:43 | |
| we are with our fiscal conservative approach. So for me, I don't, I'm not going to change the way that we're doing this purchase | 00:35:49 | |
| policy, purchasing policy because. | 00:35:55 | |
| Right now we are the most stringent and I think that. | 00:36:00 | |
| In an effective way, I think it's been good. | 00:36:03 | |
| Marty. | 00:36:06 | |
| I yeah, I'm with you. I don't agree with the consent items for everything 5000 above that would be 400. | 00:36:07 | |
| 90 transactions. | 00:36:15 | |
| And um. | 00:36:17 | |
| What is the effort and just hold on, Marty? | 00:36:19 | |
| I need, I need our city staff to be able to run efficiently. And if they want to make a purchase for something that's necessary | 00:36:22 | |
| for the city, but they have to wait until we're in a quorum to get it approved. To me that is not allowing our city to function as | 00:36:28 | |
| it needs to. And I understand that you want to be involved in this. | 00:36:35 | |
| And I don't. | 00:36:41 | |
| I want to say this in a way that's respectful. | 00:36:43 | |
| But I think you're blurring the lines of administrative versus legislative, and I think we need to allow our administrative team | 00:36:46 | |
| to do their jobs. | 00:36:50 | |
| And so I have faith and trust in our staff that they are doing a great job. We pay for an audit every year, We go over the budget, | 00:36:55 | |
| they present it, they're willing to meet with each and everyone of us. | 00:37:00 | |
| About their entire division or their department's budget. And that's when I asked my questions. And then from there I say. | 00:37:07 | |
| All right. I am happy with what you've presented. Please, like legally you have to stay within those bounds. And I support you and | 00:37:14 | |
| thank you for all of your hard work in the city. | 00:37:19 | |
| So I don't agree with you, Jake. OK. So just for clarity on Jake's question. | 00:37:24 | |
| Marty did mention it would be 492 transactions, which is about 20 consent items and we often take things off to talk about it. And | 00:37:29 | |
| then there's the blur division of lines and efficiencies. Sarah, your turn. | 00:37:33 | |
| I just echo what Marty said. | 00:37:39 | |
| I totally agree. | 00:37:41 | |
| Awesome. | 00:37:44 | |
| With that, we're going to move on to our next agenda item. | 00:37:45 | |
| Let me pull that up really quick. I have to go. But I've already spoken with the mayor. | 00:37:48 | |
| So my daughters boyfriend. | 00:37:54 | |
| Last minute got his mission call. | 00:37:58 | |
| So, umm. | 00:38:01 | |
| Just found out about it today. | 00:38:02 | |
| Don't know where he's going. | 00:38:03 | |
| So just before you leave, because you have, do you want to take a minute? Is there anything else that you needed us to be aware of | 00:38:05 | |
| for the next meeting? | 00:38:08 | |
| I just want to say I appreciate you at least putting up for my advocacy of a different way of the. | 00:38:13 | |
| Of the procurement policy and disclosure, I know I disagree, but at least we were able to go. | 00:38:19 | |
| In a respectful way of. | 00:38:25 | |
| About going about it. | 00:38:28 | |
| And then the second thing is, is I just want to publicly thank Seth from the state Auditor's office and also Nora. | 00:38:30 | |
| They've been incredible. I've spent hours. | 00:38:36 | |
| With them trying to understand and I think that added a lot in terms of the RDA and that discussion of what. | 00:38:39 | |
| What did happen in the past and so? | 00:38:46 | |
| I just think it's helpful so that. | 00:38:49 | |
| You know, that's all I'd say. OK, Thanks, Jake. | 00:38:52 | |
| Have fun tonight. | 00:38:56 | |
| All right, that brings us to our public comments. So this is for anything that is not on the agenda. If you want to come up, can | 00:38:57 | |
| you raise your hand if you're going to make a public comment, OK. | 00:39:02 | |
| Is there anybody else that's going to make a public comment tonight? | 00:39:08 | |
| OK. | 00:39:11 | |
| Hi, I'm Darlene Price and I live in the villas. | 00:39:12 | |
| I have two things that are a safety issue. | 00:39:16 | |
| One would be the little guys that are writing those. | 00:39:20 | |
| Motor scooters. | 00:39:23 | |
| Are not following the street signs, so if the sign says stop, they don't stop, they just keep going. | 00:39:25 | |
| And. | 00:39:33 | |
| In in our area. | 00:39:34 | |
| I have seen cars so close to hitting a child on one of those scooters, but the thing that's scary is that the child has no clue | 00:39:37 | |
| that that happened. | 00:39:41 | |
| You know, so I'm especially at the roundabout. | 00:39:45 | |
| I'm concerned about that. | 00:39:48 | |
| I'm concerned that people, adults driving cars are not stopping at the yellow flashing things when there's past. | 00:39:50 | |
| People walking across the streets, I don't know what else to do. | 00:39:56 | |
| But that happens regularly on. | 00:40:00 | |
| Is that vineyard? Is it Main Street? That's that's? | 00:40:03 | |
| By their other clubhouse, yes. | 00:40:06 | |
| And they have one. There's for you to do that. And it says right there big things. | 00:40:08 | |
| Don't drive through. And so these people push the button and they just drive on through. | 00:40:13 | |
| So I don't know what can be done, but those are safety issues that I'm concerned about. | 00:40:17 | |
| Another safety issue and I think it's the Grove. | 00:40:22 | |
| I think it's called the Grove Tennis Courts. It's where the old library used to be. | 00:40:25 | |
| What's that called? | 00:40:32 | |
| Yeah, Gammon Park. Gammon Park. | 00:40:34 | |
| Um, I had the joy. | 00:40:38 | |
| Of falling face first on that cement. | 00:40:39 | |
| And as I looked at the cement. | 00:40:43 | |
| Thank goodness there was an ENT guy there, so that was fine. | 00:40:46 | |
| But as I looked at the cement, it needs a grinder. | 00:40:50 | |
| Because one part of it is above by about this much. | 00:40:54 | |
| And. | 00:40:58 | |
| Don't say because she's old, because I pay attention to where my feet are. | 00:40:59 | |
| Right. And so I'm purposely missing cracks because I don't want to end up and I did. I ended up flat on my face. | 00:41:03 | |
| Nothing, except I looked like I had been skateboarding, right? | 00:41:09 | |
| First thing she is on. | 00:41:14 | |
| Our street, Yeah, on Pintail. | 00:41:18 | |
| We have people going 40 to 50 miles. | 00:41:22 | |
| I need to have that. | 00:41:26 | |
| Phoenix Equip. Temporary. | 00:41:27 | |
| Just bolt it to the ground. | 00:41:32 | |
| Just going down, but that's scary. | 00:41:34 | |
| Children and stuff like that. So those are my OK. | 00:41:37 | |
| And Holden is now aware of that and this team is aware of that, so they'll be on it. And also, darling, you might want to be | 00:41:40 | |
| present for the next day council meeting where we'll be talking about some little safety issues you were talking about with the | 00:41:44 | |
| scooters. | 00:41:48 | |
| Missy, I'd love to learn more about temporary bumps. | 00:41:53 | |
| No, not right now. Come back later. | 00:42:00 | |
| Daria Evans Villas residents, thank you for this opportunity to ask a couple questions. | 00:42:12 | |
| I just want to say thank you to our Sheriff's Department. Thank you very much. Also, I want to acknowledge. | 00:42:18 | |
| Our veterans. | 00:42:25 | |
| This past memorial weekend, we were able to. | 00:42:27 | |
| Go to several grandspan. | 00:42:31 | |
| Just the beauty of all the flags. | 00:42:34 | |
| And just remembering. | 00:42:36 | |
| All those who live. | 00:42:39 | |
| Given their lives for. | 00:42:40 | |
| So that we can be here and debate. | 00:42:42 | |
| And agree and disagree. | 00:42:45 | |
| I have a couple of questions. | 00:42:48 | |
| Umm, the RTA meeting. | 00:42:50 | |
| Where can I find the answers to John's question To John from Horns questions about the TEC? | 00:42:53 | |
| He said they will be written. I would like to know where they will be found so that I can look at them. | 00:43:00 | |
| And then I have a question about the tentative fiscal year 2526 budget that was just on. | 00:43:05 | |
| Where do the miscellaneous revenues come from? | 00:43:12 | |
| I notice there's going to be 10,000 coming up in this. | 00:43:16 | |
| 26 budget and I'd like to know where those miscellaneous revenues are coming from. | 00:43:20 | |
| My questions for Reckoning. Thank you very much. | 00:43:25 | |
| Hi, David, Larry. | 00:43:33 | |
| Holy Rd. I wanted to. | 00:43:35 | |
| Say thank you to the Council for the. | 00:43:38 | |
| The debate that's been going on, I know it's frustrating for you sometimes, but I really appreciate the back and forth. It really | 00:43:40 | |
| helps get the. | 00:43:43 | |
| Issues out in the open and I think that's a healthy thing for the city. | 00:43:46 | |
| In the end. | 00:43:49 | |
| So I appreciate that. | 00:43:50 | |
| Thank you. | 00:43:52 | |
| I think I want to make one one request if I could we've. | 00:43:53 | |
| Traffic has been a. | 00:43:57 | |
| Well, it's a topic around my house. We have problem with people speeding on Hollywood as well. | 00:44:00 | |
| I mean, they just step on by there's a stop sign they. | 00:44:05 | |
| Is it? | 00:44:08 | |
| Anyway and so. | 00:44:12 | |
| It would be possible to arrange for a petroleum more often there. I know the. | 00:44:13 | |
| Deputies do a great job when they come and do it, it's just we possibly increase that a little bit. | 00:44:19 | |
| And we thank you very much. | 00:44:24 | |
| Thank you. | 00:44:26 | |
| David Pierce from Cascade I just. | 00:44:35 | |
| Once a second the concerns about the pedestrian crossings. | 00:44:38 | |
| We we have had some. | 00:44:44 | |
| My wife and I some close, very close calls crossing. | 00:44:47 | |
| On Center St. | 00:44:52 | |
| Or other cars have have stopped. | 00:44:54 | |
| But there's always 1 Boston. | 00:44:58 | |
| Goes right through. | 00:45:01 | |
| I'm not sure what the answer is other than. | 00:45:03 | |
| Education. | 00:45:06 | |
| Or perhaps making the light? | 00:45:08 | |
| Much more visible and dramatic. | 00:45:13 | |
| Thank you. | 00:45:17 | |
| Thank you. | 00:45:18 | |
| On that note. | 00:45:20 | |
| Besides Lieutenant Rockwell taking that on, maybe Morgan we can get the active Transportation Commission to do something for | 00:45:24 | |
| education. | 00:45:28 | |
| OK. | 00:45:33 | |
| And Daria, thank you for bringing up our veterans. I know that time has passed that we. | 00:45:37 | |
| So grateful for them and we do honor them. So thank you for bringing that up. That is really meaningful. | 00:45:42 | |
| OK, We'll go ahead and close out of our public comments and we'll move on to mayor and council member reports. Do either of you | 00:45:48 | |
| have anything that you would like to share for this meeting? | 00:45:52 | |
| I just wanted for since Brett not here Vineyard days is next week. We're super excited for it. There is a website where the. | 00:45:59 | |
| Put the whole schedule. | 00:46:08 | |
| There's a lot of cool stuff happening, so I really encourage the community to go check it out and mark your calendars. | 00:46:11 | |
| And. | 00:46:17 | |
| And then specifically just sitting through our economic development meetings. | 00:46:20 | |
| Really exciting progress with Huntsman with the grocery store. | 00:46:26 | |
| And the Huntsman project is ahead of schedule while the grocery store is on a schedule. | 00:46:30 | |
| And um. | 00:46:36 | |
| There's just a lot to look forward to in our development, so just really want to report my. | 00:46:38 | |
| Joy of being on that assignment. Joy, thank you. | 00:46:43 | |
| Thank you. | 00:46:46 | |
| Awesome. OK, well, I will tell you this, just for your information, there's a lot of transportation discussions that will be | 00:46:50 | |
| coming up that you'll want to jump into. | 00:46:54 | |
| You'll have the utilities discussions that are coming up the IRA with some of the developments that are going along are freight | 00:46:59 | |
| alignment. | 00:47:03 | |
| And I know Sarah, you'll probably jump into this meetings and so that's coming up, but both of you will actually want to attend | 00:47:08 | |
| and make sure you're aware of them for the upcoming meetings. | 00:47:12 | |
| The other council members have already been made aware, but I want to announce it again. The other thing is. | 00:47:17 | |
| Make sure that you're scheduling meetings and really fine tooth combing what's happening with our budget because the next few | 00:47:23 | |
| weeks. | 00:47:27 | |
| As you want to bring it to the public, the next few weeks are where we're going to hone in on that and finalize our budgets. We | 00:47:31 | |
| want to be prepared for that. | 00:47:35 | |
| Pam has some announcements coming up for the candidate filing, so I'm going to turn a little bit of time over to her. | 00:47:39 | |
| Thank you. | 00:47:47 | |
| I just wanted to make this public. I put it on our website. We're doing some social media posts. | 00:47:48 | |
| But the candidate filing carries starts on Monday. | 00:47:53 | |
| June 2nd and goes to Friday June 6th from 8. | 00:47:56 | |
| To 5:00 PM each day. | 00:48:00 | |
| We are not. No appointment is needed. | 00:48:02 | |
| So it's a first time, first served basis. | 00:48:06 | |
| Both myself and my Deputy recorder, Tony. | 00:48:08 | |
| Laurel will be. | 00:48:11 | |
| During those declarations, but the one thing that I really wanted to emphasize that there are two new forms this year that are | 00:48:15 | |
| required. | 00:48:19 | |
| For certain for different reasons. | 00:48:26 | |
| The conflict of interest form that the Council now has to fill out. | 00:48:28 | |
| The candidates also then I'll have to fill. | 00:48:32 | |
| So I have put that online and I've made that a fillable form. So if you don't fill that out ahead of time and bring that with you, | 00:48:35 | |
| that'll save a lot of time because. | 00:48:39 | |
| You need to fill it out before I can accept your packet. | 00:48:44 | |
| Also. | 00:48:48 | |
| If you want to run with a name other than your legal name. | 00:48:49 | |
| So you have a derivative of your legal name, or you have a nickname that you go by. | 00:48:54 | |
| And there's a new form that has to be filled out. | 00:48:59 | |
| And you have to get 5 signatures of signatures from. | 00:49:02 | |
| Five people in. | 00:49:07 | |
| I think it's in the county. Don't quote me on that. I'll clarify that one. | 00:49:11 | |
| It's on the form. | 00:49:15 | |
| That you are not related to. | 00:49:18 | |
| To say that yes, I know that person, this person by that name before it can go on the ballot. | 00:49:21 | |
| As that name. So those are some things I just wanted to point out because there's a little. | 00:49:27 | |
| Point of confusion on those two. | 00:49:32 | |
| Items, but that one needs to be downloaded. It's. | 00:49:34 | |
| And print it out because we need what we call wet or holographic signatures on the down floats. | 00:49:38 | |
| So and that's wanted to say so. | 00:49:44 | |
| Come declare, run. | 00:49:48 | |
| Take part. | 00:49:50 | |
| Thank you. Awesome. | 00:49:51 | |
| All right. That brings us right to our consent items. Do you guys have any questions or can I get a motion? | 00:49:53 | |
| I move to approve consent the consent items as they're presented. | 00:50:00 | |
| All right, I have a first priority. Can I get a second? | 00:50:04 | |
| Second, all right. And we'll do this by roll call Sarah. | 00:50:07 | |
| Aye, Marty. | 00:50:11 | |
| Hi. Hi, Jake and brother excused. All right, that brings us to our first public hearing. | 00:50:12 | |
| This is the fiscal year 2025 budget amendment #3. | 00:50:17 | |
| And we're going to go into a public hearing and then our finance director will present. So I need a motion to go into a public | 00:50:22 | |
| hearing. So moved. Thanks, Marty. Second. | 00:50:26 | |
| Second. All right, Sarah, All in favor, aye. | 00:50:31 | |
| All right, go ahead, Christy. | 00:50:34 | |
| Sorry, I'm getting that. | 00:50:44 | |
| Thank you for your patience. It sounds like I wait forever and then all of a sudden it's my turn and I'm like, oh wait a minute, I | 00:51:00 | |
| wasn't ready. | 00:51:02 | |
| I think everyone is aware. | 00:51:06 | |
| I gotta get that. | 00:51:10 | |
| I think everyone is aware that. | 00:51:11 | |
| Budget is uh. | 00:51:13 | |
| Best guess at the time of what's going to be coming up and as we go throughout the year, there are changes that are made. | 00:51:15 | |
| Or, umm. | 00:51:20 | |
| For tonight's instance, we have revenue that increased over what we had initially projected and so. | 00:51:21 | |
| This is Budget Amendment 3 for fiscal year 2025. | 00:51:26 | |
| Just a few changes that. | 00:51:31 | |
| Are being recommended and asked for your approval. | 00:51:33 | |
| In the general fund, you can see that there was a property tax in OH. | 00:51:37 | |
| I almost did it if there's not. | 00:51:42 | |
| OK, sorry. | 00:51:44 | |
| I'm sorry, Eric, not a property tax increase. Yeah, there was an increase in the collections from Utah County. | 00:51:45 | |
| And then passing that on to us, your taxes are not going up. | 00:51:53 | |
| This was just an increase in collection and so I thought that it was necessary to report that in the budget. | 00:51:57 | |
| Umm, we have had $1868 donated to the skate park so far. | 00:52:03 | |
| If you recall, we set aside a fund that was restricted just for that, and so it is set aside separately. | 00:52:10 | |
| There was 174,322 left that we needed to transfer in from capital projects. | 00:52:17 | |
| I mentioned in a previous meeting that we did not get the AmeriCorps library representative. | 00:52:25 | |
| That we thought we were going to get, but in the end because we hadn't hired them yet. | 00:52:31 | |
| We're actually going to be decreasing our expenses in the library by 2333. | 00:52:36 | |
| And then? | 00:52:41 | |
| It was requested that we do a spring cleanup and we needed to include that in the budget. So that was an increase of the expense | 00:52:43 | |
| of 3000. | 00:52:46 | |
| Umm, capital projects fund. It's just that same reduction that was taken to the general fund. We did not transfer that additional | 00:52:51 | |
| amount to the general fund. | 00:52:55 | |
| The sewer fund. | 00:53:01 | |
| They need Utopia for the month of June to go to Lift Station 2. That's $350.00. | 00:53:02 | |
| This will obviously be going forward, so it will be included in the fiscal year 26 budget. | 00:53:09 | |
| But this is just an exception that we will need for the month of June. | 00:53:14 | |
| And then our contract services. | 00:53:18 | |
| We split the contract services with the RDA half and half. | 00:53:21 | |
| And I think everyone is aware that this year we have. | 00:53:25 | |
| Had a lot of legal things that had to be reviewed. | 00:53:28 | |
| And as such, it is going to cost us a little bit more than we had anticipated to make it to the end of the year. | 00:53:32 | |
| Again, that split is 5050. The Internal Service Fund will need to increase by 7500. The RDA will also increase by 7500 to meet | 00:53:38 | |
| those obligations. | 00:53:44 | |
| And that's all I have. | 00:53:52 | |
| For the tentative or for that amended budget, sorry. | 00:53:54 | |
| All right. Do you guys have any questions about that? | 00:53:58 | |
| No, Everybody all right public, do you have any questions about that? | 00:54:00 | |
| OK. Then I'm going to go out of the public hearing. Can I get a motion? | 00:54:06 | |
| Thank you, Sarah. And a second. | 00:54:11 | |
| OK, all in favor, aye? | 00:54:13 | |
| All right, with that I need a motion. | 00:54:16 | |
| I moved to adopt Resolution 2025-25 approving the Vineyard City Fiscal Year 2024 Dash 2025 Budget amendment #3 as presented by | 00:54:28 | |
| staff. | 00:54:33 | |
| All right, we have a first. Can I get a second? Second. | 00:54:38 | |
| And we will do this by roll call. | 00:54:41 | |
| Sarah, hi, Marty, hi. Hi. | 00:54:43 | |
| Brett and Drake are excused. | 00:54:46 | |
| All right, that brings us into our public hearing for the adaptive Tentative Fiscal year 20252026 budget. | 00:54:49 | |
| I need a motion to go into a public hearing. | 00:54:56 | |
| So moved. OK. Thanks Marty. Can I get a second? | 00:55:00 | |
| Second, thanks, Sarah. All in favor, Aye, we're now in a public hearing. Christy, did you want to give like a brief introduction | 00:55:03 | |
| from the meeting we had last time for the public? | 00:55:08 | |
| Yes, and there was a couple of things that I thought would be helpful. So just as a review, I gave the tentative budget to the | 00:55:12 | |
| Council on April 30th to start review. | 00:55:17 | |
| In the following two weeks, I met with each council member to review the budget and to answer any questions that they had. | 00:55:22 | |
| I have since asked them to reach out to me with any questions. | 00:55:27 | |
| Thank you, Marty. She did have a question of concern and we went and redid A calculation and found out that it was indeed higher | 00:55:30 | |
| than it needed to be. So thank you for being willing to review it and let us know that there was a question. | 00:55:36 | |
| So everything, it's all on, it's going to be online and I will again put this. | 00:55:43 | |
| Where you can view it online as part of the presentation for tonight. I think it's important to talk about staffing. | 00:55:48 | |
| Because that's something that is often not really repetitive. You don't see it in the presentations. | 00:55:54 | |
| So I have two different slides. | 00:55:59 | |
| This first slide is all the positions that were requested. | 00:56:02 | |
| And we are intending to approve them in the budget. So when you see the tentative budget. | 00:56:06 | |
| These positions are included in that and I just wanted to go through them really quick. | 00:56:11 | |
| Obviously we have a new council member that will be here for 1/2 of year next year. | 00:56:16 | |
| That's going to be 11,000, just over $11,000. | 00:56:20 | |
| So for the next fiscal year, for fiscal year 27, that number will actually double because it will be for a full year. | 00:56:23 | |
| We have a deputy building official that is going to be retiring. | 00:56:31 | |
| And has requested that there is a three month overlap between him and his replacement. | 00:56:35 | |
| And so we had approved that and that is going to be a $34,000. | 00:56:40 | |
| And when I say total cost increase, this is wages and benefits. This is everything. | 00:56:44 | |
| Our environmental environmental utilities, water. | 00:56:50 | |
| Requested another operator and they were granted that. | 00:56:54 | |
| According to this intended. | 00:56:58 | |
| It has also been requested that our neighborhood services in the planning department goes full. | 00:57:02 | |
| Any of you are familiar with Maria and code enforcement and the need to maybe have someone in that position full time? | 00:57:07 | |
| Again, the library we mentioned that we will now be funding A part-time position, which we have to do to extend our hours and | 00:57:13 | |
| become a certified library. | 00:57:17 | |
| Special events. I'm sure many of you have attended the special events. They're incredible and Anna and Zoe have done a fantastic | 00:57:22 | |
| job. | 00:57:26 | |
| Getting sponsorships and to help support these events. | 00:57:31 | |
| And so they have asked that her time be increased from 1/2 to three quarter time. | 00:57:34 | |
| And then the recreation department, as everyone is aware, has expanded some of their programs. | 00:57:40 | |
| And as such need additional seasonal referees. | 00:57:45 | |
| So those are all the ones that were asked for. | 00:57:49 | |
| And that were improved in the budget that you see the tentative budget. | 00:57:51 | |
| These other, these are the positions that we did not approve at that at this tentative budget. | 00:57:57 | |
| Again, we can always add them in and make any changes to. This is just at where we are at this point in time. | 00:58:03 | |
| We had a staff engineer. | 00:58:08 | |
| I'm not going to insult your intelligence, but I'll just read the positions and then you'll know. | 00:58:11 | |
| There was an environmental utilities operator for this wastewater or sewer fund. | 00:58:15 | |
| Public Works Coordinator. | 00:58:21 | |
| Cemetery, Sexton. | 00:58:23 | |
| Streets and stormwater operator. | 00:58:25 | |
| That part time blue sticker? | 00:58:28 | |
| And then a recreation engine. | 00:58:30 | |
| I think all of the rest of the information you're probably familiar with. I shared the capital project projects that last. | 00:58:35 | |
| Can I interrupt you with a question? Yes. Will you go back to the other page? | 00:58:42 | |
| Which one? | 00:58:46 | |
| What's a cemetery section? Because we don't have one, We don't have a cemetery. So you want to explain that in the same? I'm sure | 00:58:47 | |
| it has a purpose. I'm just really curious. | 00:58:52 | |
| Yeah, I can prepare supplies for it if you would like, but I can't hear you, sorry. | 00:58:59 | |
| But it's in essence. | 00:59:04 | |
| Sexton is a. | 00:59:07 | |
| Kind of more of a fancy word of a groundskeeper specifically for that deals with like specific types of ground, so. | 00:59:09 | |
| I know there's this city has. | 00:59:17 | |
| The Endeavors. | 00:59:20 | |
| Getting a cemetery, which is definitely a great goal and a sex that would come in. | 00:59:22 | |
| Get certified, trained up and minister that that gets turned on properly. Can I add to that? | 00:59:28 | |
| Sorry, go ahead. | 00:59:34 | |
| From the training that I've done effects and actually is responsible for. | 00:59:35 | |
| Everything that happens in a cemetery. | 00:59:40 | |
| From where the burial plots are, who buys them, who's buried there? They have to keep a record of all of that, and it has to be | 00:59:42 | |
| really specific. | 00:59:47 | |
| OK, so that you can find people. So that might come up again as we get our cemetery. | 00:59:51 | |
| OK. And right now we have money and. | 00:59:58 | |
| Our negotiations for that, so maybe we'll see that come through. Are there any questions from the public? Do you want to pull up | 01:00:00 | |
| the capital projects just on the screen and in case the public has any questions? | 01:00:06 | |
| Just for the council, I want to remind everybody, it's really thank you Marty for getting your questions in early. The council is | 01:00:11 | |
| going to keep. | 01:00:15 | |
| Reaching out as they review those numbers so you still have some time to go through that. | 01:00:19 | |
| With anything else that you see. | 01:00:24 | |
| But for the public, if you want to bring things to the Council as they get ready to make those requests. | 01:00:27 | |
| It's a really good time to. | 01:00:34 | |
| To make any comments or get involved right now because that will help us in the next couple meetings that we're coming up with. | 01:00:36 | |
| Margie, did you have something additional? No, I just felt like I interrupted her presentation and then we made her skip ahead. | 01:00:42 | |
| I felt like you were coming to a close where you said no, I was coming to a close. I just thought we would just go over the | 01:00:48 | |
| capital projects, but then we shared that in the prior meeting and the final budget will not be approved until June 25th. | 01:00:55 | |
| So in the meantime, if you have questions or concerns, please reach out to your council members. | 01:01:01 | |
| They can get me those questions and suggestions. | 01:01:06 | |
| So that we are all in agreement when we come on the 25th and hopefully that will be a pretty simple process. | 01:01:08 | |
| OK. | 01:01:14 | |
| Any comments from the public at this time? | 01:01:16 | |
| Otherwise, reach out David, come on up and state your name and where you're from. | 01:01:20 | |
| Date of the rank pulled away wrote. | 01:01:31 | |
| My question is. | 01:01:33 | |
| So you have a section. | 01:01:35 | |
| The cemetery is there a corresponding? | 01:01:37 | |
| Budget item for. | 01:01:39 | |
| Land for a cemetery and there's an association, there's a negotiation for land that we have, and there is money in our budget set | 01:01:41 | |
| aside for a cemetery as well. | 01:01:45 | |
| Are you in a point where you could suggest where that might be? | 01:01:51 | |
| No, we are not. | 01:01:54 | |
| OK, just checking. | 01:01:55 | |
| Thanks. | 01:01:56 | |
| All right. | 01:01:58 | |
| I guess in general there have been many. | 01:02:02 | |
| Areas identify, David, that you probably, you probably remember as I bring them up, but there are some on the north side of the | 01:02:05 | |
| city that are in some development agreement opportunities and then some in the South side. | 01:02:10 | |
| Where people have offered opportunities. | 01:02:17 | |
| We have some land. | 01:02:20 | |
| We always have land in our park facilities and then we have public. | 01:02:23 | |
| And over in the forge area and then we have some public land. | 01:02:27 | |
| In the Northside development. So any of those are opportunities. | 01:02:31 | |
| All right, I need a lot of a public hearing. | 01:02:36 | |
| Thank you, Sir. Can I get a second, Second. Thanks, Marty. All in favor? | 01:02:42 | |
| All right. We'll move on to our public hearing for our wastewater sewer master plan and impact the analysis. | 01:02:47 | |
| And we'll have the same presentation. | 01:02:54 | |
| That will be for our 9.4 public hearing, our water master plan and impact the analysis. So what we'll do is we'll have the | 01:02:57 | |
| presentation. | 01:03:01 | |
| And this will be given to us by Steve Jones from Hanson, Allen and Lewis. | 01:03:05 | |
| And then we will open the public hearing for 9.3. | 01:03:10 | |
| Closeout of that, OK. | 01:03:15 | |
| In the public hearing for 9.4 and then closeout of that. | 01:03:16 | |
| With that, Steve, I'll let you take. | 01:03:19 | |
| Take this item. | 01:03:22 | |
| Time's up. Turn it on. I'm just gonna. | 01:03:36 | |
| There we go. | 01:03:48 | |
| Yes. So for efficiency I'm going to. | 01:03:53 | |
| Discuss both of them and then you can hold the. | 01:03:56 | |
| Public hearings. | 01:03:59 | |
| So just going over some basics of impact fees. | 01:04:01 | |
| And feel free to interrupt me at any time if you have any questions. | 01:04:06 | |
| That purposes purpose of an impact the to fund projects and purchase necessary purchases necessary to support growth. | 01:04:10 | |
| Or to reimburse the city for previous expenses that provide capacity for future growth. | 01:04:19 | |
| So why an update was needed? | 01:04:26 | |
| We have construction inflation. | 01:04:29 | |
| Master plan updates, land use changes, and anticipated growth. | 01:04:32 | |
| So the impact fee planning process, we assess the existing system. | 01:04:38 | |
| Forecast growth for the within the next 10 year planning period. | 01:04:44 | |
| Determine projects necessary to support growth. | 01:04:48 | |
| And compute the maximum allowable impact fee based on Utah law. | 01:04:52 | |
| We go through community engagement and then adoption, which you're very close to getting to. | 01:04:57 | |
| So here's a summary of the community engagement. | 01:05:05 | |
| That we. | 01:05:08 | |
| Did during this process of impact the updates? | 01:05:11 | |
| So the official public notice started kicked off the updates. | 01:05:15 | |
| There was a Planning Commission meeting that we presented to the City Council workshops. The impact. | 01:05:21 | |
| Vineyard Fair at 20/24/20. | 01:05:29 | |
| 2025 and then we coordinate with Utah Valley Home Builders Association. | 01:05:32 | |
| And then flag VR. | 01:05:37 | |
| The impact fees were based on. | 01:05:42 | |
| The current land use. | 01:05:46 | |
| Plan. | 01:05:48 | |
| And so this is a summary of the drinking water projects. | 01:05:51 | |
| To support new growth. | 01:05:56 | |
| And then here the wastewater projects to collect the sewage and send it on its way to the wastewater treatment plant. | 01:05:58 | |
| And then this is the proposed drinking water. | 01:06:06 | |
| Impact fee The fee the highest. | 01:06:10 | |
| Allowable. | 01:06:13 | |
| Fee is 5659 and $0.82. | 01:06:15 | |
| And then adjusting. | 01:06:19 | |
| For bonding so that. | 01:06:22 | |
| The people who pay the impact fee aren't paying on the other side when they become an existing user. | 01:06:25 | |
| So this adjusts for that by year. | 01:06:31 | |
| And then? | 01:06:36 | |
| Just to show you compare what the existing impact fee is you actually have. | 01:06:38 | |
| It's split into two areas. | 01:06:43 | |
| $873 and 521 dollars. | 01:06:46 | |
| The proposed is 4207. | 01:06:49 | |
| Which is a dramatic increase that is more in line with what it actually costs to support new growth. | 01:06:53 | |
| At which? | 01:07:01 | |
| We will look at compared to other cities. Where are you at? | 01:07:04 | |
| And I, I would say you're within the range. It's probably a little bit more expensive than that to support new growth. | 01:07:09 | |
| And so the cities that have lower fees are? | 01:07:16 | |
| Are somehow subsidizing that new growth. They either have existing capacity. | 01:07:18 | |
| Umm, that is available for new growth, so they can't charge that that fee because they didn't pay for it or some other. | 01:07:24 | |
| Way a reason why it's less or they've decided to subsidize new growth. | 01:07:31 | |
| That you're at around the range of what it actually costs to provide storage and source for for drinking water. | 01:07:36 | |
| Umm, you see the highest there? Saratoga Springs 10,000. | 01:07:45 | |
| You would be at about 4207. | 01:07:49 | |
| Now I'm going to go to the wastewater collection impact fee. | 01:07:56 | |
| Again, the highest. | 01:07:59 | |
| Fee calculated is 820. | 01:08:01 | |
| And then it adjusting. | 01:08:03 | |
| To make sure citizens aren't paying the impact fee and then. | 01:08:06 | |
| Paying double on the other side when they become an existing user. Here's the adjustment. | 01:08:11 | |
| And again, the existing area A&B there was a 539 and a 2391. The proposed is 636 for the for the whole city. | 01:08:17 | |
| And justice to clarify this is? | 01:08:31 | |
| This is for the collection system, so in addition to that you have a TSSD, the treatment plant. | 01:08:33 | |
| Fee of 5092. | 01:08:39 | |
| Added to that, so when you compare and we have collection and treatment. So when you combine your two 636 and the 5092. | 01:08:43 | |
| For the treatment, your total is 5000. | 01:08:52 | |
| 700. | 01:08:55 | |
| And 28. | 01:08:56 | |
| Which again is. | 01:08:58 | |
| Kind of in the middle of the road and is very close to the actual cost. | 01:09:00 | |
| Which makes sense. | 01:09:05 | |
| For a new city like like you. | 01:09:07 | |
| Again, the older cities like you see Orem on the very top. They had the advantage of being around for a long time. | 01:09:10 | |
| That makes it easier and they have. | 01:09:16 | |
| Additional capacity. | 01:09:20 | |
| That was paid for at a lower cost. | 01:09:21 | |
| And again, you have some some that are much higher. | 01:09:24 | |
| Highland Woodland Hills again. | 01:09:27 | |
| They probably have reasons why their costs are higher for their unique situations. | 01:09:30 | |
| So there's your comparison. You're not the highest, you're not the last. | 01:09:36 | |
| So the recommendation is to adopt. | 01:09:40 | |
| The fee as presented the maximum allowable by Utila. | 01:09:44 | |
| Can I ask a question, will you clarify is there so with the impact fees, is it, is there a difference between a residential unit | 01:09:50 | |
| versus a commercial? | 01:09:56 | |
| Like how does is it per? | 01:10:03 | |
| Per door or per? Yes, so. | 01:10:06 | |
| Right here wastewater we call it an ER you are equivalent residential unit. | 01:10:09 | |
| So, umm. | 01:10:14 | |
| If you have a store. | 01:10:16 | |
| That that this is wastewater. So it has a wastewater contribution that's twice as much as a typical resident in your in your city. | 01:10:17 | |
| Then they would pay. | 01:10:26 | |
| Two times the amount of a single resident. Does that make sense and similar? | 01:10:28 | |
| To the drinking water, we call it an ERC, but it's very similar. Equivalent residential connection, same thing. | 01:10:33 | |
| So if you have a store that uses 4 times as much as a typical family. | 01:10:40 | |
| Single family home in the city and they would pay four times. | 01:10:45 | |
| The amount as a single thing. So these costs get significantly bigger if you're building a big industrial building with or. | 01:10:49 | |
| A big commercial, correct. It should be directly related to their impact. | 01:10:56 | |
| So if they use more water. | 01:11:03 | |
| Then they pay more for that capacity that they need. And did the other cities also measure that in the same with the ERC and the? | 01:11:04 | |
| Yes. And that's why it's called ERC and ERU. That's a very typical. | 01:11:12 | |
| Nomenclature for that residential. | 01:11:17 | |
| Equivalency. I know when we were first going through this and talking about, uh, use we. | 01:11:20 | |
| Kind of discuss the difference in housing, similar to what Marty was saying, but we talked about. | 01:11:24 | |
| Multi family. | 01:11:29 | |
| And how that was calculated? Yep. | 01:11:31 | |
| Tell me a little bit more about. | 01:11:33 | |
| Yeah, that calculation, yeah. And the multifamily is a hot topic in the state. | 01:11:35 | |
| And every, every city is deciding how how to deal with that. | 01:11:41 | |
| I probably have to defer to maybe nothing to. | 01:11:46 | |
| To explain exactly what you've come up with. | 01:11:49 | |
| Umm, that. | 01:11:55 | |
| Theoretically the ERC is a single family dwelling unit and and not necessarily the multi family. | 01:11:57 | |
| You want to clarify how how the city has handled multi family in the scene? | 01:12:05 | |
| So in essence so. | 01:12:10 | |
| The ERU ERC is kind of benchmarked off a three quarter inch meter. | 01:12:12 | |
| Typical single family detached. | 01:12:20 | |
| See how fan we've detached flowing? | 01:12:23 | |
| We have a two quarter inch meter and then multi families that come in. | 01:12:27 | |
| Typically have. | 01:12:31 | |
| They'll have they can they'll their connection. | 01:12:32 | |
| Size meter. | 01:12:35 | |
| It will be for multiple units will be actually less than a three quarter, three quarter inch meter. So like you might have two, 2 | 01:12:37 | |
| units. | 01:12:41 | |
| To honest on the same type of 2/4 inch meter, so that kind of bounces out that way. | 01:12:45 | |
| We just sit down this this is really like 4. | 01:12:50 | |
| Like it's like. | 01:12:53 | |
| More unique areas. | 01:12:55 | |
| More unique areas like for example like areas that have less. | 01:12:58 | |
| Excuse me last. | 01:13:02 | |
| Water usage, for example. | 01:13:05 | |
| For example in downtown area. | 01:13:08 | |
| Area where we kind of benchmark them. | 01:13:10 | |
| Benchmark those types of units. These are not them. So those types of units. | 01:13:14 | |
| That they would have they have a lower. | 01:13:18 | |
| Water use so therefore. | 01:13:22 | |
| When those come online there. | 01:13:24 | |
| Categorized at a lower than a single family kind of and lower than your typical. | 01:13:26 | |
| Multifamily. | 01:13:32 | |
| Most multi family. | 01:13:33 | |
| More has yours and so forth. So that's how, that's how we benchmark that. | 01:13:36 | |
| Specifically. | 01:13:41 | |
| VRC's in essence kind of like a benchmark, like for example transportation Master plan. | 01:13:42 | |
| One trip ends is a single family house and then if. | 01:13:47 | |
| And it goes up like based on the based on those national charts. | 01:13:51 | |
| You know a hospital will have more than. | 01:13:57 | |
| More than one trip, and vastly, much, much higher. | 01:14:00 | |
| And then maybe a dentist office much less depending on your kids at the time. | 01:14:04 | |
| But that's how we benchmark down with the multi families, I'm not mistaken. | 01:14:09 | |
| The multi family. | 01:14:17 | |
| Will be like. | 01:14:18 | |
| Point I think. | 01:14:19 | |
| .75 of a single family house. OK, that's great. Thank you. So the same as like a commercial where we're trying we upscale it. | 01:14:22 | |
| Yeah. | 01:14:31 | |
| NASIM is trying to be as fair as possible to to adjust the usage to an impact. OK, I wondered how that conversation was going to | 01:14:33 | |
| go. I do have another question. Do we ever waive costs and tack in our tax increment financing on these types of agreements? | 01:14:41 | |
| With. | 01:14:50 | |
| Water. | 01:14:51 | |
| Have we ever done that? | 01:14:53 | |
| Is that something that's going to come back to our table? | 01:14:54 | |
| Yeah, so in regards to. | 01:14:56 | |
| On empathies, the times that we I wouldn't say the word way, but the times that. | 01:15:01 | |
| Who provide for developers who build above and beyond what the standards are like or what their what their needs are. It's coming | 01:15:06 | |
| down as a impacted credit. | 01:15:10 | |
| So at about a developer, developers or such would receive. | 01:15:15 | |
| Credits towards the towards the impact. | 01:15:20 | |
| So. So mostly you've waived it based on credit. | 01:15:23 | |
| Or you've done it based off of a formula which is the non standard free adjustment that's built in here. But we're not using this | 01:15:28 | |
| in our tax increment financing investments with the RDA or anything like that. So it's not something that we need to worry about | 01:15:33 | |
| inside of this agreement, right? | 01:15:38 | |
| I just don't want that to be a discussion that comes back and I want this to be durable for a long time, OK. And that's how most | 01:15:44 | |
| cities deal with it. They have everyone pay the impact fee because there's projects that are defined that are in it. | 01:15:50 | |
| And if a developer wants to, let's say, help pay for a tank, that's in there. | 01:15:57 | |
| He can help pay for that. | 01:16:03 | |
| But then he pays the impact fee, but then he can get credit. | 01:16:05 | |
| Were paid back for helping out with that project, so if we haven't done them in the past, we don't need to worry about it. If the | 01:16:10 | |
| city does them in the future, then they'll need to add that to the agreements because we won't have that wrapped inside of here. | 01:16:15 | |
| There's no waiver inside of here, so the city can never use that in the future. | 01:16:20 | |
| OK, awesome. Does the public have any comments or questions on this? | 01:16:25 | |
| I did, didn't I? No, I didn't. Are you done with the I'm done with the presentation. So now do your your public experience for | 01:16:32 | |
| each one. OK, let's go. Let's go into the first public hearing. | 01:16:37 | |
| At the same time, right. Yes, OK. | 01:16:42 | |
| Do I need to open them simultaneously or just open them for the 9.3 and 9.4? OK, I move. | 01:16:50 | |
| I need to go into the public hearing for. | 01:16:57 | |
| 9.3 do I need to yeah 9.4 and 9.4? | 01:17:00 | |
| I have a first one, Marty. Can I get a second, second? | 01:17:05 | |
| And a second by. | 01:17:08 | |
| We all in favor, aye. OK, we're now in a public hearing. Come on up. | 01:17:10 | |
| State your name, where you're from, where your questions are. | 01:17:15 | |
| What to do with this? | 01:17:19 | |
| Hello. | 01:17:22 | |
| Put my thing on it. | 01:17:24 | |
| Daria Evans been here resident. | 01:17:25 | |
| Last week I was at the Planning Commission meeting learning about this and I have some additional questions. | 01:17:28 | |
| But First off, before I get to those questions. | 01:17:35 | |
| I don't know if I heard my answers to my questions in the public comments and I would like to have those. | 01:17:39 | |
| Questions answered tonight. | 01:17:45 | |
| My question about the miscellaneous. | 01:17:49 | |
| Revenues, where they come from? | 01:17:52 | |
| And the answer about where? Where can I find the answer to John from Orem's questions about the TC? | 01:17:54 | |
| I would like those cancer tonight. | 01:18:02 | |
| OK. | 01:18:04 | |
| My questions about the water and wastewater master plans. | 01:18:05 | |
| Continuing on from last week. | 01:18:12 | |
| Have more questions? | 01:18:13 | |
| Why did it take so long to complete the Water Master Plan? | 01:18:15 | |
| Does Vineyard treat all developers equally with regards to impact fees? | 01:18:20 | |
| Do any developers get a discount on water impact fees? | 01:18:26 | |
| How will? | 01:18:31 | |
| Find the water that is needed for the future. | 01:18:34 | |
| What will happen when Vineyard uses the? | 01:18:38 | |
| 500 acre feet available. | 01:18:41 | |
| The Water Master plan says Vineyard will need about 5000 more acre feet of water for future growth. | 01:18:44 | |
| Where will additional drinking water come from? | 01:18:52 | |
| It's difficult to find. | 01:18:56 | |
| Thank you. And I would like those questions answered tonight. Thank you. | 01:18:58 | |
| Any other questions? | 01:19:05 | |
| All right, we'll go ahead and close out of the public hearing for both 9.3 and 9.4. | 01:19:10 | |
| So moved. Thank you, Marty. Can I get a second? | 01:19:16 | |
| 2nd thank you Sarah. All in favor. | 01:19:19 | |
| Aye, aye. | 01:19:21 | |
| Alright. | 01:19:23 | |
| Well, between you and Devon, we'll go ahead and answer those questions. | 01:19:26 | |
| Come on up. | 01:19:32 | |
| And the same. | 01:19:33 | |
| This is exciting. | 01:19:36 | |
| I'll attempt to answer, most of them I forget. | 01:19:42 | |
| Short term memory maybe so. | 01:19:47 | |
| You might have to remind me some of the questions as a. | 01:19:50 | |
| As we go along, so the first question would be as to why it took so long to do the master plans. | 01:19:53 | |
| And uh. | 01:19:58 | |
| I take it that you're referencing from the when the last time the master plan was done in 2007. Is that correct? | 01:19:59 | |
| So. | 01:20:06 | |
| I'm Michael. Speaking specifically, I arrived here in 2021. We're gonna watch 2021. | 01:20:10 | |
| So I won't speak specifically to when to that time gap. I can I can say based on the previous records from the previous engineers. | 01:20:17 | |
| Is that the? | 01:20:25 | |
| The fees the calculations were. | 01:20:28 | |
| Were adjusted during the years. | 01:20:31 | |
| And so. | 01:20:33 | |
| The fact that the master plan wasn't done didn't mean that the fees weren't being adjusted throughout the years, especially like | 01:20:35 | |
| the usages and so forth. | 01:20:38 | |
| You know it. I think we discussed that. | 01:20:43 | |
| Frank Commission that typically when your master plans. | 01:20:47 | |
| Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but you're the master plans is. | 01:20:51 | |
| They kind of lookout 3050 years out. | 01:20:55 | |
| However, the master class should be updated every 10 years. | 01:20:58 | |
| And then your impact is using your facilities plan should be updated about every five years and then your impact fees are being | 01:21:02 | |
| updated every year such as what he presented. It was the impact fee like the annual impact fees. | 01:21:08 | |
| Again, then kind of working backwards. | 01:21:15 | |
| Every year the, you know, the state staff, the engineers, the planners and so forth should check. | 01:21:17 | |
| The you know is the master plan. | 01:21:23 | |
| Is everything going based on what the master plan? | 01:21:25 | |
| And tentative answer is yes then. | 01:21:28 | |
| Are the facilities that are being there on the master plan being executed accordingly? The answer is yes then. | 01:21:31 | |
| Obviously that gives you. That gives us the gut check to say yes, the master plan is still valid, but then if there's. | 01:21:37 | |
| Substantial changes in zoning growth, et cetera. | 01:21:41 | |
| And obviously then that kind of triggers the hey, we need to revise this master plan specifically, but. | 01:21:45 | |
| I can't tell you specifically as to why. | 01:21:51 | |
| Master plan wasn't executed in the years past. | 01:21:54 | |
| On that one. So that was the first question. | 01:21:57 | |
| And I really lost track of my second question. | 01:21:59 | |
| We treat all developers equally. | 01:22:01 | |
| So, umm. | 01:22:04 | |
| I can I'll speak out, but. | 01:22:05 | |
| Specifically for my staff, my team, and of course my coworkers, the answer is yes. | 01:22:09 | |
| What are you gonna do about water for the future? So I. | 01:22:15 | |
| Go ahead. | 01:22:20 | |
| Do any developers get a discount on water cap? | 01:22:22 | |
| The developers wanted to receive a discount specifically. That's the way that again, as long as I've been here. | 01:22:26 | |
| Discounts that have not been given. | 01:22:33 | |
| Credits. So you receive empathy credits. So kind of like what was said before is. | 01:22:35 | |
| Of a developer provides. | 01:22:41 | |
| Like upfront costs to the infrastructure and so forth. | 01:22:43 | |
| They can receive empathy credits typically. | 01:22:48 | |
| Times developers would do that for. | 01:22:50 | |
| If a certain upgrade is required for the development to happen, even though. | 01:22:53 | |
| I want to say for it to happen, but for to like kind of help make a sustainable developer city. | 01:22:57 | |
| I'm gonna do my share, but I'll go ahead and do your share. | 01:23:03 | |
| The disease here for it as well. | 01:23:06 | |
| For example, a lift station. | 01:23:08 | |
| If a partial increase of a lift station is required. | 01:23:10 | |
| You don't do an incremental, you typically do that. | 01:23:12 | |
| And a much larger scale. | 01:23:15 | |
| This days, this day may not have the funds or so forth available or it might be advantageous during construction timing. | 01:23:16 | |
| The developer will go ahead and absorb all this cost and then receive credit. | 01:23:23 | |
| For it. | 01:23:26 | |
| And then the other one was water for the future and the costs and how are we going to obtain it? | 01:23:28 | |
| Short answer is. | 01:23:35 | |
| Yes, we're always looking for ways I can even give. I'll just turn over the time to Steve right here, who's more of an expert. | 01:23:37 | |
| This last week that asked a question if we were going to do a more drilling. | 01:23:43 | |
| Yeah. So yeah, the short answer is no. | 01:23:48 | |
| So I had the longer answer with you. | 01:23:50 | |
| Sorry, you're talking out of the microphone, so you're going to need to come back to the microphone if you want to clarify what | 01:23:53 | |
| you were saying. | 01:23:56 | |
| Last week I asked if we were going to do anymore drilling and the answer is no. | 01:24:00 | |
| And so I want a shorter answer than the 1 he gave last time. | 01:24:06 | |
| About where the water will come from. | 01:24:11 | |
| He mentioned water rights. | 01:24:14 | |
| And I want to know how we're going to have those. Where are those water rights coming from? | 01:24:17 | |
| How are they going to be supplied and especially if we're going to need more than 3500 acre feet? | 01:24:22 | |
| Drinking water is hard to find. | 01:24:29 | |
| We live in an arid state. | 01:24:32 | |
| So this is the perfect time for me to pass it over to Steve. | 01:24:34 | |
| Yeah, I would say that the city is being responsible in moving forward with finding answer. | 01:24:39 | |
| Maybe it's the world, but we don't. We don't know at this point in time. I'm working on on studies. | 01:24:46 | |
| Paid for by the Legislature. The state legislature to figure out if we have enough water in the Great Salt Lake basin. Do we have | 01:24:55 | |
| enough water for the Great Salt Lake? How do we support growth? | 01:24:59 | |
| Those studies are all going very positively. | 01:25:05 | |
| I'm optimistic that we will have enough drinking water. | 01:25:08 | |
| To support. | 01:25:12 | |
| Growth into the future. | 01:25:13 | |
| As we all work together but. | 01:25:15 | |
| I can say that the city is being very responsible to figuring out what are the best. | 01:25:18 | |
| Ways to move forward. | 01:25:24 | |
| Even though we don't have specifics at this time. | 01:25:26 | |
| There's lots of options. Well, and I think for a point of clarity that I'll mention for the public is this. | 01:25:29 | |
| When we say we hope we will obtain water for the future growth, what we mean is as we grow and as we are allowing planning, we are | 01:25:34 | |
| always looking for water to support the growth that we're planning for, but we are not going to grow past the capacity that we can | 01:25:39 | |
| obtain. | 01:25:44 | |
| So there isn't going to be the fear of where we have enough water because we have growth. | 01:25:49 | |
| That that we can't sustain. If we don't have the water, we won't have the growth. And that's how our codes work. | 01:25:55 | |
| I'll also add in another additional thing which. | 01:26:01 | |
| We phase in plans, work city that's been growing quite fast and so when we say why haven't we gotten this plan yet? | 01:26:04 | |
| And it's coming in the time that we phased it in because we have so many master plans that we're working on, so many different | 01:26:12 | |
| studies that we're running through and we're doing it. | 01:26:17 | |
| As they prioritize and they come up to now, this must be done and this must be done and we spend. | 01:26:22 | |
| The taxpayers money appropriately to make sure that we are doing it when it's needed as fast as we can do it. | 01:26:28 | |
| And to, like you said, plan really well for the future. And I do dozens of master plans for cities all over the state. And I would | 01:26:35 | |
| say you're in the typical range, it's typically 5 to 10 years. | 01:26:40 | |
| There's some cities that do it more often. | 01:26:46 | |
| Because they have changes going on. So sometimes that is appropriate, but I would say again, just like the impact. | 01:26:49 | |
| You fall within the typical range. Thank you. Thank you. | 01:26:55 | |
| Thank you very much. | 01:26:58 | |
| Gary, I could add just a couple. | 01:27:01 | |
| Additional items to that. | 01:27:02 | |
| Going forward, our intention is to continue to pursue water conservation. | 01:27:05 | |
| Efforts. We have specialists that are helping us develop plans for that. | 01:27:10 | |
| We're working with Forum City to. | 01:27:16 | |
| Utilize some of their treated water for some of our public areas and develop a plan. | 01:27:19 | |
| To utilize some of that throughout the city and in public spaces. | 01:27:24 | |
| We work with our. | 01:27:28 | |
| Developers and just. | 01:27:30 | |
| The market through Hanson, Allen, Luce. | 01:27:33 | |
| To acquire water rights, whenever those pop up, people sell them from time to time. | 01:27:35 | |
| And we also expect that our developers can bring water rights to the table when they have those available and that and we see that | 01:27:41 | |
| happening on a pretty regular basis. | 01:27:45 | |
| Lastly. | 01:27:50 | |
| And I would end with that those are those are sort of the. | 01:27:52 | |
| The key areas where we're working. | 01:27:54 | |
| And the city has a budget. | 01:27:57 | |
| That's just set aside for. | 01:27:59 | |
| Acquiring water rights as those become available. | 01:28:01 | |
| In the last year, we purchased probably. | 01:28:04 | |
| Out of seven water rights or something like that. | 01:28:08 | |
| Each right contains. | 01:28:10 | |
| Multiple acre feet of water and so. | 01:28:13 | |
| It is a work in progress and we try to stay ahead of the. | 01:28:16 | |
| The game so that we always have sufficient for our future needs all right. | 01:28:20 | |
| I need a motion. | 01:28:26 | |
| Let's start with 9.3. | 01:28:27 | |
| I did. I did, didn't I? | 01:28:29 | |
| Do you want me to close it again? | 01:28:35 | |
| Mayor, can I interrupt one last time? There was one more question that I see in 18. | 01:28:37 | |
| Hand raised over there to have answered. | 01:28:42 | |
| Sorry, it's a fantastic question. | 01:28:46 | |
| What is what goes into miscellaneous revenues? | 01:28:48 | |
| Umm, because that's not or has. | 01:28:50 | |
| Doesn't have anything to do with US items. Can we do it after this? | 01:28:53 | |
| OK, I, I have it saved. And another question that she asked about as well. All right, I'm going to just ask us to close the public | 01:28:57 | |
| hearing again because I'm not sure. | 01:29:02 | |
| You think I did? Just in case, let's do it again. OK, Marty, first make it a second. Second. Thank you, Sarah. All in favor, Aye. | 01:29:08 | |
| That was for 9.3 and 9.4. All right. I need a motion for 9.3. | 01:29:14 | |
| I move to adopt Ordinance 202508 Bill Wastewater Master plan as prevented. Awesome. | 01:29:20 | |
| Got a first by Marty. Can I get a second, second, second by Sarah? We're going to move this. | 01:29:26 | |
| Roll call. Aye, Marty. Aye. Sarah and Jake are excused 9.4 I move to adopt Ordinance 2025-09, the Water Master plan as present | 01:29:32 | |
| tonight. First by Marty, Can I get a second? Second. Thanks, Sarah. All in favor. Oh no. Just kidding, Sarah. | 01:29:40 | |
| Marty. | 01:29:49 | |
| All right, go ahead and discuss the. | 01:29:51 | |
| Miscellaneous. | 01:29:54 | |
| And then As for the. | 01:29:56 | |
| Question to John Barracks. What will happen is that our RDA director will take care of that, write something up and then you'll be | 01:29:59 | |
| informed as we present it to the public. | 01:30:02 | |
| Part of her, part of her question is she wants to know where she could find it herself. But. | 01:30:08 | |
| It will be brought to City Council to the RDA meeting so it will make sure to have printed out. Do you want to even offer her a | 01:30:13 | |
| copy of what he handed to you? | 01:30:17 | |
| The all three memos will be attached to today's agenda as well. But specifically there was a law that he listed. So what will | 01:30:21 | |
| happen is that he will go and tell, make sure that he collects what was stated in previous meetings or anything additional that | 01:30:27 | |
| will add to it. | 01:30:32 | |
| It will be presented in a public meeting and then I'll be on public record and you'll have it at that time. | 01:30:37 | |
| OK. | 01:30:42 | |
| In the minutes or it's going to be on the. | 01:30:45 | |
| Yeah, that's a good question. And what I'll do is what what it will be on is the agenda packet. So just like you see it right now, | 01:30:48 | |
| you'll see it then. All right, go ahead. | 01:30:52 | |
| Thank you, Miss Lane. Nice revenue. I'm sure you're asking about the general fund, miscellaneous revenue? | 01:30:59 | |
| The reason we have a category called miscellaneous revenue is because every once in a while we have a payment that can't go into | 01:31:05 | |
| taxes or building permits or interest earned or sponsorships, rents, all of those different categories. | 01:31:11 | |
| Some things that would maybe be put into there are we get a revenue share from our credit cards through Zions Bank. | 01:31:18 | |
| Quarterly and so those go in there. | 01:31:24 | |
| Also, if we've accidentally made a double payment to a vendor and it's in a prior year, say in May. | 01:31:27 | |
| Somebody pays something with a credit card at O'Reilly Auto. | 01:31:34 | |
| But then they also submit the invoice to AP and it's different than they haven't seen it come through spent clarity yet. | 01:31:38 | |
| Then we would get a refund from O'Reilly, but because it's in a different fiscal year, we would put it into miscellaneous revenues | 01:31:45 | |
| instead of back to the account that it was charged out of. | 01:31:50 | |
| That one is less uncommon. Grandma requests. | 01:31:54 | |
| We don't have a line item for grandma requests so as we started to have to charge for those. | 01:31:58 | |
| Because some of them have been voluminous, that's where you would see those. | 01:32:03 | |
| Anytime there's a settlement. | 01:32:07 | |
| Lost settlement, a lawsuit settlement that comes to us for any reason, that's where we put it because again, we don't have. | 01:32:10 | |
| So if you look at fiscal year 23, the actual was $27,000. That was because we had a settlement that was paid out to the city. | 01:32:15 | |
| On fiscal year 24. | 01:32:23 | |
| 8851 was the actual. | 01:32:25 | |
| We estimated 9972 for this year and we just put 10,000 as a government for next year. But it is, it's just really a guess because | 01:32:27 | |
| it's everything that doesn't fit into another category. | 01:32:32 | |
| Does that answer your question? | 01:32:38 | |
| Thank you. All right, we'll move into our public hearing 9.5 consolidated fee schedule amendment Resolution 2025. | 01:32:40 | |
| 23. | 01:32:47 | |
| And Maria will present this again. There are two things that Maria will present that will probably have to take out of the budget | 01:32:49 | |
| because they are not currently on the agenda, correct. Yeah. So. | 01:32:54 | |
| Removed is the Grove Park concessions. | 01:33:01 | |
| That will be moved to the next meeting. | 01:33:04 | |
| As well as just the Parks and Recreation Master Plan impact piece. | 01:33:07 | |
| So added this time will be the Memorial Bench and the Memorial tree. The memorial Bench WE 1500 Memorial tree will be 500. | 01:33:13 | |
| And that is on. | 01:33:22 | |
| Page 5. | 01:33:25 | |
| Next will be page 10, and that's illicit discharge and stormwater runoff. | 01:33:30 | |
| That's just found in as found a state code because there's different tiers. | 01:33:34 | |
| So it would just be easier to mark as a state code rather than listing out every single tier just because they're really. | 01:33:39 | |
| Specific. | 01:33:45 | |
| And then? | 01:33:46 | |
| For business licensing, we are changing. | 01:33:48 | |
| The itinerant merchant to temporary and seasonal use. Business license. | 01:33:51 | |
| And then changing the name as well for the deposit as temporary and seasonal use business license refundable deposit. | 01:33:56 | |
| As well as in business licensing. | 01:34:03 | |
| Kelly, our business license official, noticed that we had. | 01:34:05 | |
| And accidentally put. | 01:34:09 | |
| Class A&B liquor license together they should be separated because they have different bond amounts so those have been separated | 01:34:11 | |
| out. | 01:34:14 | |
| It means just be. | 01:34:17 | |
| Needed to have two separate sections. | 01:34:19 | |
| And that is Class B liquor license, limited service. That's for a restaurant. | 01:34:21 | |
| And that has a bond of 5000 instead of 10,000 which was compiled in that one. | 01:34:25 | |
| And then Class B liquor license, full service restaurant, that's a bar that has a bigger bond of $10,000. So that's just spread | 01:34:30 | |
| out. What page are you on? That is on page 11. | 01:34:35 | |
| All right, making a motion to go into a public hearing. | 01:34:41 | |
| Stella, thank you. Marty, can I get a second? | 01:34:44 | |
| Thank you, Sarah. All in favor, aye. All right. Do you guys have any questions about this? | 01:34:48 | |
| No, I feel really bad. | 01:34:53 | |
| I need a motion to God of a public hearing. I'm ready. Can I get a second? | 01:34:57 | |
| Second, thanks, Sarah. | 01:35:01 | |
| All in favor, aye. All right, Marty. | 01:35:03 | |
| What you thought about? | 01:35:06 | |
| The in the packet the attachment wasn't. I don't they don't have it in red lines. | 01:35:08 | |
| Yeah, I don't know what was happening this time. I kept trying to resend it to Tony and Pam and it just was not accepting the red | 01:35:14 | |
| lines. | 01:35:18 | |
| So when I looked at it the last time it said that it had red lines. | 01:35:22 | |
| And then today when I looked at it, I realized it did not have them on there. | 01:35:26 | |
| So you have a question about the red lines that were mentioned. Will you go over the first couple? I got the last few. | 01:35:30 | |
| So on Page 3. | 01:35:36 | |
| We are just doing the memorial bench. | 01:35:39 | |
| And the memorial tree that's going to be the moral bench will be 1500. | 01:35:41 | |
| Memorial Tree will be 500. | 01:35:46 | |
| And then on page. | 01:35:48 | |
| 10 I believe. | 01:35:52 | |
| Got 10. So we are adding an illicit discharge and stormwater runoff. That's the one that's found in state code because there's | 01:35:53 | |
| different tiers. | 01:35:57 | |
| And then for business like to sing and that goes from 10:50. | 01:36:01 | |
| It's temporary and seasonal use Business license will be replacing itinerant Merchant. | 01:36:06 | |
| As well as the H&R Merchant refundable deposit that's just going to change to temporary slash seasonal use. | 01:36:11 | |
| Business license refundable deposit. | 01:36:17 | |
| And then again for the liquor license, it used to say. | 01:36:20 | |
| Class A or B liquor license. | 01:36:24 | |
| Would be a $300 proof plus a $10,000 bond. | 01:36:27 | |
| But the B has to be separated because there's the restaurant and bar as a differential. | 01:36:31 | |
| So we have Class A by itself and then Class B liquor license limited service restaurant that's just for a restaurant that serves | 01:36:36 | |
| alcohol. | 01:36:40 | |
| And that's 300 plus the proof of $5000 bond. | 01:36:44 | |
| And then a Class B liquor license school service restaurant that is a bar. | 01:36:47 | |
| That is $300 plus proof of a $10,000 bond. | 01:36:51 | |
| Yeah, that makes sense. Thank you. | 01:36:56 | |
| Perfect. And then yeah, sorry about that. I'll try to see what was going on because I was not sure why it wasn't getting on there. | 01:36:58 | |
| No, you're OK. Sarah, do you have any extra? | 01:37:01 | |
| Question. | 01:37:06 | |
| OK, I'm ready to make a motion. | 01:37:09 | |
| If there's no there. | 01:37:11 | |
| Let's go, all right and move. Or actually, sorry, did you want to take a turn? | 01:37:12 | |
| Sarah's ready. | 01:37:17 | |
| I moved to adopt Resolution 2025 Dash 23 consolidate consolidated fee schedule amendments with the exception of removing parks. | 01:37:20 | |
| And recreation facilities master plan impact fees and the Grove Park concessions contract fees. | 01:37:30 | |
| All right. I have a first by Sarah. Can I get a second? Second. We'll do this by roll call. Sarah. Hi, Marty. Aye. | 01:37:36 | |
| Hi, Jake. And for our excuse and our meeting is adjourned. Thank you all for coming. | 01:37:43 |