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  • Mayor Fullmer called the meeting to order at07pm. Councilmember Clawson gave an invocation and led the pledge of allegiance.          JOINTPUBLIC HEARING
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  • Mayor Fullmer turned time over to Planning Commissioner Chair Nathan Steele.  1.   PUBLICHEARING—VineyardStationAreaPlan
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  • Planner Anthony Fletcher introduced Dan Wayne with Mountainland Association of Governments (MAG). Mr. Wayne presented on HB462 and State requirements regarding the development of a Station Area Plan.
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  • Councilmember Clawson asked how zoning differences in the Station Area Plan would be presented so that the council would have a chance to see what had been presented versus what had been approved. He also asked for clarification on the next steps in the process and who was responsible for final certification.
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  • Mayor Fullmer asked Mr. Wayne to explain more about the process and give a brief history on the development of the statutes that apply to the certification of station area plans.
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  • Councilmember Holdaway wanted to know when work had first begun on this plan. He wanted to know specifically when Mr. Wayne had started working directly with Vineyard Staff. Councilmember Holdaway alleged that he had only learned about the agenda item hours prior to the meeting. He felt unprepared for the meeting and stated that he didn’t know what was going on.
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  • Councilmember Sifuentes called point of order, to remind Councilmember Holdaway and the rest of the council that Mr. Wayne was limited on time and that questions should be specific to MAG related issues.
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  • Mayor Fullmer asked for clarification on the requirements in state code and to confirm that the city was meeting all of them.
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  • Councilmember Holdaway wanted to know how this plan had been put together if the state doesn’t mandate the city to have one.
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  • Councilmember Holdaway wanted to know how much advance notice had been given to other cities in terms of public notices.
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  • Councilmember Clawson wanted clarification on the exact responsibilities of the city council. A discussion ensued.
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  • Planning Commissioner Rhoton clarified that the planning commission had previously met on this subject and that the Council had also planned to discuss the issue at the previously cancelled city council meeting.
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  • Councilmember Holdaway wanted to know if the Planning Commission had done any sort of social media advertising specifically to how many people would be projected to live in the proposed area. Commission Chair Steele reminded the Councilmember that questions at this time were limited in scope to MAG because Mr. Wayne would have to leave soon and that questions concerning the planning commission could wait until later in the meeting.
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  • Councilmember Cameron wanted to know what the level of commitment any vote would convey on future decisions regarding the station area plan.
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  • Councilmember Sifuentes explained that she felt the plan showed a level of intention. A discussion ensued.
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  • Councilmember Holdaway wanted to confirm that there was no mandate, and that the city could still enact previous plans. A discussion ensued.
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  • Planning Commissioner David Pearce asked for clarification on certification. A discussion ensued.
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  • Mr. Fletcher presented the timeline for certification and gave further details on the proposed station area plan as well as basic educational information about zoning, land use, and planning in general.
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  • Commission Chair Steele opened the public hearing.
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  • Daria Evans, living in The Villas subdivision, expressed concern about the one-mile perimeter that was being proposed.
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  • Rachel Crane, living in the Sleepy Ridge subdivision, wanted to thank the city for the way they show kindness and compassion in their messaging.
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  • Adam Tuescher, living in the Windsor subdivision, wanted to know if there were plans to facilitate pedestrian accessibility at the front runner station.
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  • Karen Cornelius, living in The Villas subdivision, wanted clarification on what type of public engagement or noticing the city has done.
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  • Tyler Haroldsen, Vineyard resident, commented on what he would like to see included in the Station area plan to help improve safety.
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  • Councilmember Holdaway, speaking as a member of the public, commented on the timeframe in which the plan was established. He did not feel adequately informed about the process and was angry with city staff and the planning commission.
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  • Barbara Porter, living in the Hamptons, commented that she was concerned that Councilmember Holdaway was not being given information about projects and accused the city staff of intentionally withholding information from him. She explained that she attended meetings and follows the city’s social media and had not heard about the project.
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  • Commission Chair Steele closed public hearing. He reminded the public of where they could go to sign up for email alerts concerning upcoming agendas and meetings. He then turned time over to staff for them to answer questions.
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  • Community Development Coordinator Morgan Brim and Mr. Fletcher answered questions raised during the public hearing. They explained that the half mile was what was required from the state but that they felt extending it to a mile helped them look at it more comprehensively. Mr. Brim clarified again that tonight’s vote was to simply forward the document to the SAP committee and not to formally adopt anything. Mr. Brim also explained that the city had met requirements for noticing the plan and had held open houses and even had a booth during Vineyard days in the park to provide information and solicit feedback from the public.
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  • Commission Chair Steele clarified attempts for outreach, he directed the public to pages-30 of the plan for details regarding the extent of the outreach and how feedback was integrated into the draft plan.
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  • Mr. Brim answered questions about pedestrian safety.
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  • Mr. Brim addressed the questions raised regarding business zoning.
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  • Mr. Fletcher asked for additional comments so that staff could improve on the plan further.
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  • Councilmember Holdaway accused staff of “dreaming up a new plan” without first seeking council approval. Staff attempted to respond by explaining that the budget for the plan had been approved by council previously and there had also been several work sessions discussing the plan. A discussion ensued.
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  • Planning Commissioner Natalie Harbin explained that she as well as others on the commission are always open to questions and discussions and that she had had several conversations with members of the city council regarding the plan. She asked Mr. Brim if it would be possible to remove the residential portion of the plan for further evaluation without stalling the overall project. A discussion ensued.
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  • Councilmember Clawson asked for clarification on the part of the presentation that focused on the difference between zoning and land use.
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  • Mayor Fullmer asked if the UVU planning for the area had been considered and added to the SAP.
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  • Councilmember Holdaway asked about the percentage of mixed uses in the plan. Commission Chair Steele directed him to Page and showed it waspercent. A discussion ensued.
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  • Councilmember Sifuentes asked about making amendments and the feasibility of making changes and if they could be made in time for delivery of the draft to the SAP committee.
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  • Commissioner Chair Steele called for final comments and feedback before considering motions.
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  • Commissioner Rhoton thanked the staff for their work and said that he thought it made sense to plan for more and be better prepared
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  • Commissioner Harbin also thanked staff for their time and hard work on the draft she was comfortable with the size and scope but said that she felt the residential portions should be removed and additional work on that should be done and then added to the plan at a later date.
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  • Commissioner Pearce thanked staff and said that he felt they had done an impressive job. He also would like to see the residential removed as well and that he was comfortable with the larger radius and felt the comprehensive planning was a better approach than solving smaller issues separately.
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  • Commission Chair Steele thanked staff as well. He also wanted to mention areas of the plan that he felt should have been mentioned. Specifically, the use of view corridors to protect views.
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  • Councilmember Holdaway explained that he was also in favor of removing the residential portions of the project.
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  • Councilmember Clawson was thankful for the discussion and felt that he had learned a lot. He also was in favor of removing the residential portion.
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  • Mayor Fullmer felt that the plan could stay as is with the exception of the radius which she wanted to return to the .5 mile. She felt it was important to present the plan as is and then make changes to it as the council worked on it further.
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  • Councilmember Sifuentes was grateful for the discussion and the effort that staff put into it. She also felt that she was not as involved in the process, and she would have liked to have been. She explained that she looked through emails and saw that the grant award that started the work on the station area plan had been awarded in22, and she realized that work had been ongoing for years. She stated she was in favor of the plan and the wholemile with the stipulation that residential portions be removed from the plan at least until the environmental studies are completed.
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  • Councilmember Cameron agreed with Commission Chair Steele that she appreciated the addition of view corridors. She also addressed comments about the city’s tax rate stating that it was established in05 and that the city was smaller then. She felt that the city would always be smaller and that Vineyard would never have the population and the tax base of neighboring cities like Orem. She urged residents to keep perspective.         PLANNINGCOMMISSIONSPECIALSESSION-BUSINESS ITEM1.   DISCUSSIONANDACTION-VineyardStationArea Plan
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  • Motion: CHAIR STEELE MOVED TO ENDORSE THE DRAFT OF THE STATION AREA PLAN AND FORWARD IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR SUPPORT ENABLING THE CERTIFICATION BY MAG AND THE SAP REVIEW COMMITTEE. COMMISSIONER HARBINSECONDED. COMMISSION CHAIR STEELE AND COMMISSIONERS RHOTON, HARBIN, PEARCE AND FAGG VOTED YES. THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.     Mayor Fullmer moved to consent item.10 and called for a motion.
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  • Motion: COUNCILMEMBER SIFUENTES MOVED TO ENDORSE THE DRAFT OF THE STATION AREA PLAN AND FORWARD IT FOR CERTIFICATION BY MAG AND THE SAP REVIEW COMMITTEE WITH THE STIPULATION THAT IT WILL NOT INCLUDE ANY RESIDENTIAL AREAS WITHIN THE EAST GENEVA AREA.
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  • Mayor Fullmer asked to make a friendly amendment, Councilmember Sifuentes agreed to entertain the motion. Mayor Fullmer asked that the motion included a stipulation that the council would like the area reduced to the original but to keep the plan as it is the draft so that the review committee can understand that the council is still working on some of the details of the plan. There was a brief discussion concerning the specifics of the amendment.
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  • Motion: COUNCILMEMBER SIFUENTES MOVED TO SUPPORT THE DRAFT OF THE STATION AREA PLAN AND FORWARD IT FOR CERTIFICATION BY MAG AND THE SAP REVIEW COMMITTEE WITH THE STIPULATIONS THAT THE COUNCIL WILL ONLY BE SUBITTING APPROVAL OF THE HALF MILE RADIUS AND THAT IT WILL NOT INCLUDE ANY RESIDENTIAL AREAS WITHIN THE EAST GENEVA AREA AND THAT THE UVU PORTION WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE SUBMITTED DOCUMENT. NO SECOND, THE MOTION FAILED.
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  • Councilmember Sifuentes commented that she also supported continuing the item as she agreed with Councilmember Holdaway that she felt that she needed more time to study the draft before voting.   Motion: COUNCILMEMBER SIFUENTES MOVED TO CONTINUE THE ITEM UNTIL THE OCTOBERH MEETING. COUNCILMEMBER CLAWSON SECONDED. MAYOR FULLMER AND COUNCILMEMBERS CAMERON, SIFUENTES, CLAWSON AND HOLDAWAY VOTED YES. THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.          ADJOURNPLANNINGCOMMISSIONSPECIALSESSION   The Planning Commission adjourned at26pm.          CITYCOUNCILREGULARSESSION
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  • Mayor Fullmer called the city council regular session to order at30 pm.          PRESENTATIONS/RECOGNITIONS/AWARDS/PROCLAMATIONS
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  • Councilmember Clawson gave a progress report regarding the third-party audit.
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  • Councilmember Cameron thought what the auditor had found so far was interesting. She stated that Chris Harding, who is conducting the audit, told her that if he had found anything remotely close to fraud that he would let them know. She also wanted to commend Finance Director Kristie Bayless for her outstanding work.
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  • Councilmember Holdaway thanked Councilmember Clawson for meeting with him and working with him.
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  • Mayor Fullmer presented proclamations and urged residents to read them in full later.1.   ProclamationDeclaringSeptemberasConstitutionMonth-Proclamation2025-  2.   StormwaterAwarenessWeek-Proclamation2025-08  3.   SourceWaterProtectionWeek-Proclamation2025-09  4.   FocusGroupUpdate-CityHall SeniorPlannerCacheHanceywillpresentthefindingsofarecentFocusGroup regarding Facilities and Growth
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  • Senior Planner Cache Hancey presented some of the findings of a recent focus group he had held regarding facilities and growth.
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  • Councilmember Holdaway asked that future meetings include sponsors from a previous referendum petition concerning bonding for the proposed city center. Mr. Hancey agreed to reach out to the group.         WORK SESSION Agenda Management
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  • City Recorder Pam Spencer presented on agenda management as well as a proposed policy update.
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  • Councilmember Clawson said that he liked the proposed changes and asked that public comment be moved to the beginning of the meetings. A brief discussion ensued.
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  • Councilmember Clawson also asked about obstacles that were preventing planning commission items from coming to the council closer to when they’ve passed the commission. A discussion ensued.         PUBLICCOMMENTS
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  • Daria Evans, living in The Villas subdivision, expressed her appreciation for the Vineyard Cleanup Day. She also stated that she had also spoken with Councilmember Clawson about agenda management and supported the idea of moving public comments to the beginning of the meeting, but also assigning questions asked to staff or council to answer in the minutes for the next meeting.
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  • Karen Cornelius, living in The Villas subdivision, didn’t feel that Vineyard days was an appropriate amount of public engagement when it came to the station area plan. She felt that plans like that should be mentioned in council meetings more often. She also had questions regarding semi-trucks that were parked on Vineyard connector road. She was also concerned that several consent items did not have the fiscal impact as part of the title.
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  • Tyler Haroldsen, living in the Edgewater subdivision, commented on fatal pedestrian accidents along0 S. He expressed concern about what he viewed as a lack of action on the road to improve safety conditions. He made recommendations to the council of ways to temporarily increase the safety along that road.         MAYORANDCOUNCILMEMBERS'REPORTS/DISCLOSURES/RECUSALS
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  • Mayor Fullmer responded to questions raised during public comment.  .     STAFF,COMMISSION, ANDCOMMITTEE REPORTS  .1.City Manager Report
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  • Mayor Fullmer offered to review each consent item to help address any questions or concerns from council.
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  • Councilmember Holdaway had a question on item.5. He wanted to know if the city had already purchased these items in the past. Public Works Director Naseem Ghandour explained that the city had purchased it in the past and that this was to set up a re-occurring purchase with the provider.
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  • Human Resources Director Corrie Steves presented items.8 and.11. A discussion ensued. Councilmember Holdaway believed the items were taking away power from elected officials by placing the responsibility on a third-party hearing officer.
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  • Motion: COUNCILMEMBER SIFUENTES MOVED TO APPROVE ALL CONSENT ITEMS, EXCEPT FOR ITEMS.8 AND.11 AS PRESENTED AND STRIKING.10 AS THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN VOTED ON EARLIER IN THE MEETING. COUNCILMEMBER CAMERON SECONDED. THE ROLL CALL VOTE WAS AS FOLLOWS: MAYOR FULLMER AND COUNCILMEMBERS CAMERON, SIFUENTES, CLAWSON AND HOLDAWAY VOTED YES. THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
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  • Motion: COUNCILMEMBER CLAWSON MOVED TO CONTINUE CONSENT ITEMS.8 AND.11 TO A FUTURE MEETING. COUNCILMEMBER HOLDAWAY SECONDED. MAYOR FULLMER AND COUNCILMEMBERS CAMERON, SIFUENTES, CLAWSON AND HOLDAWAY VOTED YES. THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. .     APPOINTMENTS/REMOVALS.1.Withtheadviceandconsentofthecouncil,MayorFullmermayappoint members to boards and commissions.   There were no appointments made during this meeting. .     BUSINESSITEMS .1.PUBLICHEARING:TransportationMasterPlan+ImpactFee(Ordinance25-13)   This was postponed from the June, August, and September,25, City CouncilMeetings.(Thisitemisbeingstruckfromtheagendaandthepublichearing will be rescheduled and re-noticed for a future date.)
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  • Motion: COUNCILMEMBER HOLDAWAY MOVED TO STRIKE ITEM.1 FROM THE AGENDA TO BE RE ADDED AND THE PUBLIC HEARING TO BE RE-NOTICED AT A FUTURE DATE. COUNCILMEMBER CLAWSON SECONDED. MAYOR FULLMER, COUNCILMEMBERS CAMERON, SIFUENTES, CLAWSON AND HOLDAWAY VOTED YES. THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.  .2.PUBLICHEARING-ConsolidatedFeeScheduleAmendment(Resolution2025-) Neighborhood Services Coordinator Maria Arteaga will present a proposed amendmenttotheConsolidatedFeeSchedule.ThemayorandCityCouncilwillactto adopt (or deny) this request by resolution. (This item is being continued to the September,25, City Council Meeting.)
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  • City Manager Eric Ellis was asked by Mayor Fullmer to attach his report to the agenda in lieu of giving a report to the council. He agreed but did want to mention the upcoming Boo-a-Palooza and Walk of Hope events. .     CONSENT ITEMS.1.ApprovaloftheAugust26,2025,CityCouncilSpecialSessionMeeting Minutes.2.CaterpillarBackhoeLeaseAgreement(Resolution2025-48).3.SpecialEvent Fee Waiver Request.4.MunicipalCodeAmendmentSection13.16PublicLibrary(Ordinance2025-10).5.BidAwardofContractforBeneficialBacteriaProductsandServices(RFPNo.25-52-101) (Resolution No.25-49).6.BidAwardofContractforGeneralConcreteServices(RFPNo.2025-54-4) (Resolution No.25-50).7.PurchaseofStreetsUtilityTruck&EnvironmentalUtilitiesCraneTruck (Resolution25-51).8.PersonnelPolicyRevision:DisciplinaryAppeals(Resolution2025-52).9.VacationofaPortionof1600NorthRoad(Resolution2025-53).10.VineyardStationArea Plan TheCityCouncilwillacttoendorsethedraftworkingVineyardStationAreaPlan for certification by the SAP Policy Committee and MAG..11.VineyardMunicipalCodeAmendmenttoTitle2Administration;adding Chapter10 Employee Discipline Hearing Officer (Ordinance25-13)
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  • Motion: COUNCILMEMBER SIFUENTES MOVED TO ENTER INTO A PUBLIC HEARING AT57PM. COUNCILMEMBER CLAWSON SECONDED. MAYOR FULLMER, COUNCILMEMBERS CAMERON, SIFUENTES, CLAWSON AND HOLDAWAY VOTED YES. THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
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  • Utility Billing Clerk Maria Arteaga presented the proposed changes to the Consolidated Fee Schedule.
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  • Motion: COUNCILMEMBER SIFUENTES MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT58PM. COUNCILMEMBER HOLDAWAY SECONDED. MAYOR FULLMER, COUNCILMEMBERS CAMERON, SIFUENTES, CLAWSON AND HOLDAWAY VOTED YES. THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
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  • Motion: COUNCILMEMBER HOLDAWAY MOVED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION25-46 AMENDING THE CONSOLIDATED FEE SCHEDULE. COUNCILMEMBER CAMERON SECONDED. THE ROLL CALL WAS AS FOLLOWS: MAYOR FULLMER, COUNCILMEMBERS CAMERON, SIFUENTES, CLAWSON AND HOLDAWAY VOTED YES. THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.  .3.DISCUSSIONANDACTION—VineyardLoopRd(600North)and300WestParking& Striping Plan Senior Planner Cache Hancey will present a striping plan for Vineyard Loop Road (600North)and300Westtoaddparking.CityCouncilwilltakeappropriateaction.
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  • Senior Planner Cache Hancey presented the proposed striping plan.
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  • Councilmember Sifuentes asked for clarification on the angled parking in relation to vehicle size. A discussion ensued about both that as well as overall parking and the challenges presented by adding parking or removing a left turn lane.
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  • Ms. Cornelius commented that her husband was on one of the consulted HOA’s and that they didn’t recall being contacted by city regarding the proposal. She also expressed concern regarding the potential loss of the left turn lane stating that she felt it was important to maintain that entrance into the neighborhood. A discussion with council and staff ensued.
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  • Motion: COUNCILMEMBER CAMERON MOVED TO APPROVE ITEM.3 AS PRESENTED. THE WAS NO SECOND, THE MOTION FAILED TO MOVE FORWARD.
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  • There was discussion about the merits of doing further analysis and potentially adding fewer parking spaces and the expense of maintaining the left turn lane. Additionally, staff discussed timing and urgency due to the cost of striping during winter. The result was the establishment of a sub-committee to work with staff and evaluate the project further, with the understanding that they would report back to the council on the next regular meeting with a decision.
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  • Motion: COUNCILMEMBER CLAWSON MOVED TO CONTINUE ITEM.3 AND ESTABLISH A SUB-COMMITTEE THAT WOULD WORK WITH STAFF AND HOAS TO EVALUATE THE PROPOSALS RAISED DURING DISCUSSION AND TO MAKE A DECISION ON KEEPING OR REMOVING THE LEFT TURN LANE. COUNCILMEMBER CAMERON SECONDED. MAYOR FULLMER, COUNCILMEMBERS CAMERON, SIFUENTES, CLAWSON AND HOLDAWAY VOTED YES. THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.  .4.PUBLICHEARING-AdoptionoftheFiscalYear2025-2026WorkingBudget After Amendment #2 (Resolution25-47) (This item is being moved to the October25, City Council Meeting.) FY26 Budget Amendment#2
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  • Motion: COUNCILMEMBER CLAWSON MOVED TO CONTINUE THE ITEM TO THE NEXT REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON OCTOBER COUNCILMEMBER SIFUENTES SECONDED. MAYOR FULLMER, COUNCILMEMBERS CAMERON, SIFUENTES, CLAWSON AND HOLDAWAY VOTED YES. THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.  .5.DISCUSSIONANDACTION—GovernmentRecordsRequestsandVineyard Municipal Code TitleMunicipal Procedures ThemayorandcitycouncilwilldiscussGovernmentRecordsRequestsandVineyard Municipal Code TitleMunicipal Procedures and take appropriate action.
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  • Motion: COUNCILMEMBER SIFUENTES MOVED TO ENTER A CLOSED SESSION AT:54PM FOR A DISCUSSION OF THE CHARACTER, PROFESSIONAL COMPETENCE, OR PHYSICAL OR MENTAL HEALTH OF AN INDIVIDUAL. COUNCILMEMBER CAMERON SECONDED. THE ROLL CALL WAS AS FOLLOWS: MAYOR FULLMER, COUNCILMEMBERS CAMERON, SIFUENTES AND CLAWSON VOTED YES. COUNCILMEMBER HOLDAWAY VOTED NO. THE MOTION PASSED FOUR (4) TO ONE (1). .     ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at:22 PM.   MINUTES APPROVED ON:     October,25                 CERTIFIED CORRECT BY:       TONY LARA, DEPUTY CIty Recorder
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  • Mayor Fullmer struck this item from the agenda.   .     CLOSEDSESSION a      discussionofthecharacter,professionalcompetence,orphysicalormentalhealthof an individual
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Event transcript
And we're going to begin with an invocation and apply the. 00:00:00
Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:03
By Councilmember Clawson. 00:00:05
Our Father in heaven, we're grateful that we can. 00:00:10
Be gathered this evening as. 00:00:13
Council, Commission and residents and staff to. 00:00:17
Discuss the. 00:00:20
Work and business of. 00:00:22
Or the city, and we ask as we proceed through the evening, that we can. 00:00:24
Have our minds opened that we can understand? 00:00:29
And that we can. 00:00:33
Speak well. 00:00:34
And this we pray in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen. 00:00:35
All right. 00:00:40
I pledge allegiance to. 00:00:45
To the flag. 00:00:46
Of the United States of America. 00:00:47
And the general Republic for which it. 00:00:49
One nation under God. 00:00:52
Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:54
All right, I'm going to turn the time over to. 00:01:00
Our Chair of our Planning Commission, Nathan Steele, and he's going to conduct the rest of this joint meeting. 00:01:03
Great. 00:01:08
Thank you everyone for being at this joint meeting. 00:01:09
Hopefully you're just as. 00:01:11
Tickled as me about it. 00:01:13
We are going to go ahead and move on to our joint public hearing. 00:01:14
Item 2.1, which is a public hearing about the Vineyard Station area plan. 00:01:19
Well, you first hear a presentation from staff. 00:01:23
About it. And then we'll have a. 00:01:26
Joint body. 00:01:28
Discussion. Yeah. 00:01:30
About it and then a public hearing. 00:01:30
So time is yours, Anthony. 00:01:32
Thank you, Chair and mayor and City Council. 00:01:44
My name is Anthony Fletcher and I will be taking you through the station area plan. 00:01:48
For Vineyard City. 00:01:52
So in the meantime, I want to share that we have Dan Wayne here from MAG. 00:01:54
Who is the? 00:02:00
I mean the. 00:02:01
The planning director. 00:02:03
That overseas. 00:02:05
Station area plans and many other. 00:02:07
Planning efforts in the Mac area and he'll be here to give. 00:02:09
Some more. 00:02:12
Insight on. 00:02:14
The state requirements. 00:02:15
What we're? 00:02:17
Expected to do and. 00:02:19
What we need to make sure that we meet as a city to get certified. 00:02:23
And my my part of the presentation, I'll be talking about the certification schedule. 00:02:28
Give you a general overview about the. 00:02:32
Draft document that we're working on. 00:02:35
I would like to say though. 00:02:38
That this presentation. 00:02:40
Is not to adopt A plan. 00:02:42
This is just for input. 00:02:44
Get some good feedback. 00:02:46
To update the work and document that we. 00:02:48
Still have. 00:02:52
And then have this presented to. 00:02:54
Mac for certification. 00:02:58
Later we will come back. 00:02:59
For a formal adoption. 00:03:01
But City Council. 00:03:03
So think of this as. 00:03:05
That's more expanded. 00:03:08
At this point, I'll turn it over to Dan Wayne. 00:03:10
To talk about the requirements by state. 00:03:15
Thank you mayor and council members. 00:03:20
I'm not necessarily here to do a big presentation, but to spend most time hopefully just answering your questions that you might 00:03:22
have. 00:03:25
About the process, but just for context for those that are visiting or those that aren't familiar with it. 00:03:28
Just a little background, um. 00:03:34
The state from the state's perspective. 00:03:36
They've invested, you know, billion dollars plus into this regional. 00:03:39
Transit network. 00:03:44
And their thought is is that they would love it if the cities. 00:03:46
Help support. 00:03:50
The performance and. 00:03:52
Usability. 00:03:53
Of that transit infrastructure. 00:03:55
By providing transit oriented development around what they call fixed guideway stations, which basically just means. 00:03:57
Commuter rail, light rail, and bus rapid transit like UVX. 00:04:03
So that's that's the premise behind or what? 00:04:08
Drove the the creation of HP 462. 00:04:12
In 2022. 00:04:16
And that. 00:04:18
That statute basically, you know. 00:04:20
Requires all cities that have an existing station. 00:04:22
To develop a station area plan. 00:04:26
And to have that certified. 00:04:29
Before the end of this calendar year. 00:04:32
December 31st. 00:04:34
2025. 00:04:36
So across. 00:04:38
Utah County. 00:04:40
In our region here. 00:04:42
All of the cities with an existing station, and in fact all of the city cities with the future station. 00:04:44
Have all gone through the station area. 00:04:50
Planning process. 00:04:53
They've either sort of had their plans, they've completed them and had them certified. 00:04:54
Or their. 00:04:59
Probably in the 90 to 95% phase similar to you are where they're just kind of rounding the corner. 00:05:01
And getting close to certification. 00:05:08
My message to. 00:05:13
To you is is that there's not a lot of downsides. 00:05:16
To having a developing a station. 00:05:20
And having that certified. 00:05:24
The station area plan is similar to a general plan and that it's. 00:05:27
A conceptual advisory document. 00:05:32
In fact, the state statute says that you cannot. 00:05:35
Certify A stationary plan unless it's consistent with the local governments zoning. 00:05:39
And if you did do a stationary plan that. 00:05:46
Differs from your existing zoning. 00:05:50
That at some point that you'll need to update your zoning to match the plan that you adopted. 00:05:52
So that's that's the basic background in terms of. 00:05:58
How you? 00:06:02
Submit it. We do have a what's called ASAP. 00:06:04
A stationary plan. 00:06:08
Policy Committee. 00:06:09
That's comprised of the mayor's. 00:06:11
Of all of the cities that have an existing station. 00:06:14
And then a couple other. 00:06:18
Members of that and some non voting members. 00:06:20
You prepare. 00:06:23
Your station area plan. 00:06:25
To your liking. 00:06:29
That meets all the basic. 00:06:30
Criteria that are. 00:06:32
Spelled out in in the HP 462. 00:06:33
You adopt that. 00:06:37
As not adopted, you approve it as to form basically saying that. 00:06:39
We agree with this plan that we created. 00:06:44
You submit that to the the station area plan. 00:06:47
Policy Committee. 00:06:50
And. 00:06:51
I do a review of it. 00:06:53
I let them know whether or not it. 00:06:55
Checked all the boxes that are required of a stationary of plan. 00:06:56
And then they do a what's called a conditional certification. 00:07:00
They certify it. 00:07:04
Conditioned upon. 00:07:05
The City Council. 00:07:07
Formally adopting it by resolution and once they've done that. 00:07:09
Then you'll receive. 00:07:13
A letter basically saying that you've met the requirement. 00:07:15
Of the law. 00:07:19
And then how? 00:07:21
Implemented is or. 00:07:22
Put into effect is through your moderate income housing. 00:07:24
Plan so the moderate income housing plan as you never. 00:07:27
Has a bunch of different options. 00:07:31
Strategies that you can select that qualify in that plan. 00:07:34
Having a station area plan is one of those things. So if you. 00:07:39
Have a stationary plan and it's been certified. 00:07:42
Then that becomes one of your strategies when you're doing reporting. 00:07:45
On your moderate. 00:07:49
Housing plan. 00:07:50
I As mentioned before, I'm I'm Dan Wayne with the Community Planning Manager at MAG. 00:07:53
We don't necessarily. 00:07:59
Our role is more of an administrative. 00:08:01
Role we're not certifying. 00:08:04
Your station area plan. 00:08:07
I'm reviewing it just to. 00:08:09
See if it met the basic requirements in providing a recommendation to the Policy Committee, just like your staff would to you. 00:08:11
If there was an action item. 00:08:19
But other than that. 00:08:22
Our our role is just to support. 00:08:23
The process. 00:08:25
To administer. 00:08:27
We got delegated the. 00:08:29
The position to. 00:08:31
You know to to administer this process, including the technical assistance that the state provided. 00:08:33
And we awarded. 00:08:40
Consultant technical assistance to the city at their request so that they could do. 00:08:42
This study. 00:08:47
The last thing I'll mention. 00:08:48
Is is that? 00:08:50
The requirement for a station area plan is. 00:08:52
A1 half mile radius around. 00:08:55
The station around your front runner station. 00:08:58
1/2 mile. 00:09:01
The city. 00:09:05
Elected to contribute additional funds in addition to the state technical funds and to. 00:09:07
Those together. 00:09:12
To look at not only that area, but an expanded area. 00:09:14
And we thought that was a great idea and we supported. 00:09:18
That because when you look at your station. 00:09:20
Area. 00:09:23
There's part of it is your Utah city, which is already planned. It's. 00:09:24
All you have to do is you don't have to redo that plan, you just reference it in your station area plan. 00:09:29
Part of it is the UVU campus, which you don't have land use control over and so. 00:09:35
The station of the. 00:09:40
Statute allows you to call that impracticable and say it just. 00:09:42
It doesn't apply because. 00:09:46
We're not in control of that. 00:09:48
The remaining portion of that half mile circle are a couple slivers. 00:09:49
Of land on the perimeter of that, and that's really all that. 00:09:55
Is included when we're considering certification of that stationary of plan? 00:09:59
Now, you were really smart, like I said, and looked outside of that circle where there's all this potential for development. 00:10:05
And you've done that plan as well? 00:10:12
And I just mentioned that so that if you. 00:10:15
Do have concerns with any components of the plan? 00:10:17
That you consider isolating those concerns to. 00:10:21
That which is relevant to the station area plan. 00:10:24
And that which is entirely within. 00:10:27
The cities purview. 00:10:29
So, umm. 00:10:32
Probably spoke a little bit longer than I. 00:10:33
I even intended but. 00:10:35
I'll, I'll turn it back over to the. 00:10:36
To the Council and answer any questions that you might have. 00:10:39
OK. Thank you. To confirm, Anthony, is that all of the presentation or do you also have more that you're presenting? 00:10:43
We have more to present, but he only has a few minutes. 00:10:49
So if you have any questions pertaining to what he just talked about? 00:10:52
You have a chance to ask him before he leaves. 00:10:56
OK. Thank you for clarifying. 00:10:58
So large body, all of us together. Any questions you have for our MAD representative? 00:10:59
Yeah, I've got a. 00:11:05
I've got a few. 00:11:06
Because you covered a lot. 00:11:08
One, you were talking about zoning and if the zoning in the SAP is different than current zoning. 00:11:12
Would the plan? 00:11:19
Enumerate those, or somehow list those out for us so that we would. 00:11:21
Be able to see. 00:11:25
Current versus versus future and we can and we can evaluate that. 00:11:26
Yeah. And in fact. 00:11:31
You can actually. 00:11:32
With a little wrinkle with the statue, you can actually have. 00:11:34
Your plan adopted and certified without your zoning updated to match. 00:11:38
On there. 00:11:43
We don't include that as part of the certification process, but it's just assumed that. 00:11:44
You will eventually have to do that. 00:11:49
You may have to report on that as part of your moderate income housing plan. I don't. 00:11:52
I'm not sure the second one I had when you were going through the certification. 00:11:56
Process. 00:12:01
What I. 00:12:03
Got was that you'll do a review and a recommendation and then there's a state. 00:12:04
Committee that actually does a conditional certification. 00:12:08
No, there's no that right? No, there's no state committee they delegated that to. 00:12:11
What we created is called the SAP Policy Committee. 00:12:16
And that's comprised of mayors of all of the cities that have. 00:12:20
An affected station and so your peers are basically. 00:12:25
Reviewing. 00:12:29
In deciding whether or not it needs the statute. 00:12:30
And not when we do the certification process. 00:12:33
It's it's not really about is it a good plan? 00:12:36
Or a bad plan. It's really about just did it. 00:12:40
The exact. 00:12:44
For specifications of the law and I'm literally just checking boxes when we went through a lengthy planning process. 00:12:45
I had all sorts of opinions and contributions towards the planning process and we had a great time. 00:12:52
Doing it. 00:12:57
But from the very beginning. 00:12:58
I we stated it and we'll stay, stay it. 00:13:00
State it again now that. 00:13:02
When it comes to the certification process. 00:13:04
That's just an administrative process where we're. 00:13:06
Just confirming that it met the. 00:13:09
Minimum requirements of the law. Not that it's not that it's a good plan or battery. 00:13:11
And the last question I had, I'm going to add to that one really quick. 00:13:15
Maybe for clarification you can explain. 00:13:20
Camdale came in from the League of Cities and Towns, and he talked a little bit about. 00:13:23
Why it ended up? 00:13:28
In kind of that more local government form. 00:13:30
Maybe you can speak to the Council about that. 00:13:33
Sure, yeah. 00:13:35
I think when the the law first started germinating and they were talking about. 00:13:39
What it should and. 00:13:43
D there I think at that. 00:13:45
Early point there was some talk of. 00:13:48
Land use control and how the state could. 00:13:51
Make sure that local governments invest in transit oriented development around these. 00:13:55
And MAG and WFRC. 00:14:00
In the League of Cities and Towns. 00:14:03
You know, made a point of advocating for local governments and their land use authority. 00:14:06
And we? 00:14:11
Collectively. 00:14:13
Influenced help. 00:14:16
You know, develop a statute. 00:14:18
That puts that keeps the control within local government. 00:14:20
And if you look at the requirements of the. 00:14:25
HB462. 00:14:27
There's no minimums. 00:14:29
Like there's no minimum. 00:14:32
Densities or any type of development or anything like that. It just says. 00:14:33
Have you considered? 00:14:38
Land use around the station Have you considered? 00:14:40
Transportation around the station. 00:14:43
And access to open space. 00:14:45
You can define that however you want. 00:14:47
It's just asking you to basically go through a planning process that works for you. 00:14:50
Within the context of your community. 00:14:56
When did you first know about this and start working with the mid city to do this? 00:15:02
Well, I mean the the law was. 00:15:08
Enacted in 2022. 00:15:11
There was like a. 00:15:13
A year or so. When did you start working with our staff? 00:15:15
Yeah. There's a year or so where if we tried to figure that out and then we. 00:15:18
Allocated. 00:15:22
Funds for the technical assistance for this project probably two years ago. 00:15:23
And we've been going through the process. 00:15:29
Since then, I just want it publicly known that I found out about. 00:15:31
Changes and. 00:15:35
Densities about 48 hours ago. 00:15:37
The city City Council member. 00:15:40
Changes. 00:15:43
So. 00:15:44
I think what you're. 00:15:45
I'm not done. 00:15:47
To have this on the packet. 00:15:49
Putting in 4000. 00:15:52
To 6000 residents. 00:15:55
Into our business district. 00:15:57
And I'm not. 00:15:59
It's not you. 00:16:00
It's like and have a combined. 00:16:02
Meeting and then a vote tonight. 00:16:05
Something so impactful. 00:16:12
I'm wearing my grandfather's shirt who sat on the City Council that dedicated this business district. 00:16:16
Some 25 years ago. 00:16:22
And we were created as a city. 00:16:24
To be able to control what we built. 00:16:26
And I don't know what's happening in this meeting. 00:16:30
But it's very odd. 00:16:34
That, uh. 00:16:35
A large page document. 00:16:37
That is in such detail. 00:16:40
Not be known to me. 00:16:42
Respectfully, if I can just focus all of our time right now on asking questions that's particular to our magnet representative. 00:16:44
And then? 00:16:52
Have questions? 00:16:53
To staff about the particulars, I just I just wanted to make sure we're. 00:16:54
Using our time wisely here, I think it is. 00:16:58
Now point of order, he just needs to leave soon so we can discuss all these things after. 00:17:00
Let's just focus on that like you said. 00:17:05
I have one more thing. So there were a lot of considerations that those considerations. Are there specific requirements that you 00:17:08
could delineate between? 00:17:12
Considerations and requirements that would prove that our plan would fail if we didn't need those. 00:17:16
I've I've reviewed the the draft plan and I just had some minor suggestions. 00:17:24
In order just to. 00:17:32
Make it. 00:17:34
Crystal clear that. 00:17:35
The plan has met all the requirements. I I don't think that the plan that you've developed is deficient. 00:17:37
In any way, it just needs a little bit of clarification. 00:17:43
I think what I mean is according to HB 462. 00:17:45
What are the requirements? 00:17:50
Because you talked about kind of considerations, but what are the requirements that would make it so that? 00:17:52
We're not able to move forward with this plan. 00:17:57
This is if you consider the land use. 00:18:00
Have you considered the transportation? 00:18:02
But if we don't have something that connects to a transportation. 00:18:04
Do we fill the requirement? If we don't have density, do we fill the requirement? 00:18:08
No, and that's The thing is if there's a photo. 00:18:12
A1 page list of. 00:18:15
I went through the statue and identified all the requirements and I made a check. A nice convenient checklist. 00:18:17
And they're really just things like. 00:18:23
Show a map. 00:18:25
Showing where the area is, yes. 00:18:26
Evaluate land use. 00:18:31
Around the station and have a plan for it. 00:18:33
You did. 00:18:36
Consider the transportation. 00:18:38
Infrastructure. 00:18:40
That you would like to see to serve the station and the community. 00:18:42
Check you've done that. 00:18:46
They're all really basic things. There's nothing on there that says. 00:18:47
You have to do it this way or or. 00:18:51
That way. 00:18:54
So in that respect. 00:18:55
It's really truly in the city's hands and it was a city lead. 00:18:56
Process that we just. 00:19:00
We we administered the. 00:19:02
Technical assistance funds for but it was the project manager. 00:19:04
Was the city staff. 00:19:09
And. 00:19:11
From the state and we've had a. 00:19:13
Master plan for 20 years, that's never been changed. 00:19:15
How did we come up with a? 00:19:19
Plan that is so significantly different from the master plan if there's no mandate. 00:19:21
Now, did we spend? That's not a question for him, though. 00:19:26
Right. I just want to make sure it wasn't mandated from you. 00:19:29
I don't mind answering it right, I just want to make sure it's not you leave the room and says, hey, this guy made us do it, 00:19:33
right? 00:19:36
Now, in fact, actually the law says that. 00:19:39
If you already have a plan. 00:19:42
Addresses all the requirements of. 00:19:44
HP 462. 00:19:47
That you don't even have to do a plan, you can just point to your existing plan. 00:19:49
And just say we're done. 00:19:52
Right. So and there's like I said, if you look at that area within that planning area you've already planned. 00:19:53
For Utah City and so you can just say done. 00:20:00
As long as it meets all the basic requirements. 00:20:03
My last question on all the other cities, how long did they allow the? 00:20:06
Look to know about their new plan before voting on a. 00:20:09
It's so much public engagement with. 00:20:13
Pretty substantial, right? 00:20:15
Yeah. It's a city by city process. Obviously they came up with their own engagement plan for the public and stakeholders. And are 00:20:17
we talking like at least a couple weeks or months or? 00:20:22
Yeah, there's. 00:20:28
The. 00:20:30
This plan in particular. 00:20:31
We Part of the scope of work was to develop a city. Approved. 00:20:34
Engagement plan. So that was done and then they followed through with that. 00:20:38
Offhand, I can't remember all the. 00:20:42
Specific elements of that, but I do know it included. 00:20:45
Some community events. 00:20:49
And some marketing and online. 00:20:51
Presence and all the. 00:20:54
Kind of the standard. 00:20:57
Public engagement types of. 00:20:58
Things that are. 00:21:00
Sometimes. 00:21:01
Effective. Sometimes not so. 00:21:03
I think, Anthony, you're going to be covering a lot of that in your presentation, yeah. 00:21:05
I know there's others with questions, Brett or? 00:21:11
Sorry, Councilmember Clawson also said he had another question. I want to make sure you address yours. 00:21:13
And then also if there's other members of the council or members of the Planning Commission with questions, just want to make sure 00:21:18
we can address it all while we have. 00:21:21
The clarification I was looking for is exactly what are the responsibilities. 00:21:24
Of the Council. 00:21:29
I heard. 00:21:31
An approval so that it can come back to you with Council approval to do. 00:21:34
Your evaluation. 00:21:40
And I thought I heard that there's a second thing that happens sometime later after the state looks there the. 00:21:42
The Policy Committee looks at it. 00:21:49
Did I did I hear that right that that's I just want to make sure that I'm clear on what. 00:21:51
Responsibility for all of us up here. 00:21:55
Actually is. 00:21:56
Yeah. I mean, we hope you're engaged in the entire process, but in terms of like the the touch points? 00:21:58
Of the Council. 00:22:03
That are. 00:22:05
Required, I guess you could say is. 00:22:06
That we ask that you approve as the form. 00:22:08
The plan so that when it goes to the committee, they can be assured. 00:22:12
That this wasn't something that. 00:22:16
Staff develop them at the city, you know. 00:22:17
Council is not familiar with and. 00:22:20
That they don't support it. 00:22:23
And that's that approval tonight and that's asking for. 00:22:25
I I think. 00:22:29
Yeah, he'll go over that. That's up to the obviously to your staff there. 00:22:30
The second touch point is. 00:22:34
After the committee certifies it. 00:22:36
Then you, the City Council, needs to adopt it by resolution and then we can provide you. 00:22:38
You know the paperwork that's required so that when you do moderate income housing reporting that it qualifies as a strategy. 00:22:46
OK. Are there any other questions? 00:22:54
I don't have a question but just for clarity for. 00:23:00
People here. 00:23:03
The Planning Commission did have a work session on this topic. 00:23:04
Three weeks ago. 00:23:07
And I believe the City Council was going to at their meeting two weeks ago, but because that meeting got cancelled. 00:23:08
Which is why I think we're having this joint session tonight. 00:23:14
Because the. 00:23:17
Of that delay, so just for clarity. 00:23:18
We've talked about it. 00:23:21
And we're. 00:23:23
Talking about it as a group tonight because of that. 00:23:24
Cancellation. 00:23:26
OK. Are there any? 00:23:27
Questions, uh. 00:23:29
Right now, did the Planning Commission make any social media posts about adding? 00:23:30
4 to 6000 people. I think this is a question for our bad representative. Point of order right now it's a question for our MAG 00:23:35
representative. 00:23:39
Anyone. I just wondered because you said a lot of. 00:23:44
A lot of what's already. 00:23:48
Been put in place. 00:23:50
Satisfies kind of the requirements you guys are looking for. 00:23:51
So. 00:23:54
Does does it require all of it or you want us to finish those little slivers? 00:23:56
I mean, I've looked through the plan, it actually looks pretty good. I was impressed with. 00:24:01
How much community engagement there's been and. 00:24:05
Yeah, I was. I was actually really impressed by it, but. 00:24:08
Just, uh. 00:24:11
A question. 00:24:12
Yeah, I mean. 00:24:13
You do have to consider that whole area, so you can't do. 00:24:14
Most of it and. 00:24:17
You have to do the whole thing. 00:24:19
A little sliver, Yeah. And it's. And like I said, it's already part of your plan. You've done the work. 00:24:21
Yeah. It's just a matter of do you approve of it? 00:24:25
And Are you ready to submit that for certification? 00:24:30
But it doesn't lock us in. What we submit doesn't necessarily lock us into. 00:24:33
No. And in that respect, it's it's a, it's a conceptual plan. So you might look at the map. 00:24:39
On there and. 00:24:44
Someone might look at that and say Oh well. 00:24:45
That's the plan. That's what's going to be implemented. 00:24:47
There's no way. 00:24:51
That's not how it works. 00:24:52
You know you don't build a city off of a conceptual plan. The. 00:24:53
How it happens is is that the city zones for what they want they do. 00:24:58
Design codes and everything to make sure that. 00:25:03
They get the type of development they want and the location that they want and then. 00:25:06
The development. 00:25:11
Community or individuals proposed projects that you consider. 00:25:12
That's how it gets implemented, not just. 00:25:17
A rendering or a map that someone included as an exhibit. 00:25:20
But down there I add to that. 00:25:25
Yes, because you're going to clarify the zoning, right? Do you mind if I add to the general plan first? 00:25:29
I was I was looking. 00:25:34
I was just going to say it's a simple comment. 00:25:37
I was just going to say that this is important because it shows. 00:25:40
It's important for us to. 00:25:43
As a council if we're not comfortable with the plan. 00:25:45
Then the student approve it how it is. 00:25:48
Yeah, I like that what you're saying because I actually was saying something similar, but on. 00:25:50
The intention that it's going to show when we do or don't approve it. 00:25:56
And you mentioned about. 00:25:59
The discussion that went on with the Utah League of Cities and Towns and the preemption that the state was talking about. 00:26:02
And now you're saying that there are no real requirements and So what we're really doing is handing in a general plan. 00:26:08
To the state and. 00:26:14
You, designated as a facilitator of a local body, is going to go back to the state shortly. 00:26:16
And report on what we've done. 00:26:21
If we did the plan. 00:26:23
And how we did our land use. 00:26:24
Because one of their questions was, are we making the changes that the state is asking us to consider? 00:26:27
Of our own accord. 00:26:33
Because when we fought for the Utah League of Cities and Towns, we said. 00:26:34
Of course, we're going to consider all of those things. 00:26:38
And so, yes, tonight we're going to talk about our intent here. 00:26:41
And then that intent is going to be brought to the state and it will go back up for a report. 00:26:45
So as we make that decision, I think that's a clarifier. 00:26:49
Pretty soon we need. 00:26:51
Yeah. And I would just clarify that I I'm not reporting to the state, I'm reporting to you. 00:26:52
So when it gets certified. 00:26:57
I give you. 00:26:59
The documents of certification and then you report to the state as part of your. 00:27:01
Moderate income housing plans. 00:27:06
Yeah, awesome. 00:27:09
All right, I would. 00:27:12
Yeah. So there's no mandate. We can do what we want and we maintain control. 00:27:13
Yeah, you can do what you want I I think. 00:27:18
The and you should be comfortable with whatever plan that you've come up with. I would never have the cake, but but it could be 00:27:21
anything other. I mean, literally it's it could be our master plan that we've always done forever. 00:27:25
Just reporting. As long as it checks the boxes on Yeah, but there's no density. 00:27:33
There's no nothing additional. 00:27:38
So there's nothing that forces us. It's just. 00:27:41
If you want to make adjustments but then. 00:27:44
This plan. 00:27:47
Will be the one that you point to and then our master plan. 00:27:48
Has to update to what we agree that this new plan has. 00:27:51
So that ties our hand. 00:27:56
That's that's up to the. 00:27:58
The city on how they want to incorporate that into their own. 00:27:59
Plans. 00:28:03
There's no specification on. 00:28:05
Right. That's like, just like a general plan is that you would work towards it, but if you didn't like it, you wouldn't. 00:28:07
Point to this new transportation plan and say hey, this transportation plan, the zoning fits here. 00:28:14
You have to follow this because it's in your. 00:28:19
Transfer your to your station plan. 00:28:21
Well, I think that could be argued. 00:28:25
Like if we were to approve something that we weren't comfortable with and then a developer takes it and they're like, oh, this is 00:28:27
what you guys said your intentions were, I think that could actually get us into some legal issues. 00:28:32
If we. Right. So this plan matters. Yeah, I do. This plan doesn't matter. 00:28:37
Yeah. 00:28:41
Of luckily. 00:28:44
Go ahead. OK. 00:28:47
There's nothing on the questions. Thank you. 00:28:49
Your time very welcome. I'd like to have, Sorry, I gotta leave. I apologize. We'd like to have city staff now get their 00:28:51
presentation. 00:28:54
Or did you have a question? 00:28:59
Hang on, don't leave yet. 00:29:01
Yeah. 00:29:06
Yeah, I got 1. 00:29:09
You're not off the hook yet. 00:29:12
We're not letting you leave tonight. 00:29:16
So I'm a little slow and I. 00:29:19
I heard about this direction. 00:29:23
When I asked about it. 00:29:26
A few months ago when I first came on. 00:29:28
The Commission. 00:29:31
A lot of it was explained to me and I understand it. 00:29:32
But one thing. 00:29:35
That I think I need a little bit more. 00:29:37
Detail on or a little bit more clarification on. 00:29:41
What is the leeway between? 00:29:45
What's approved? 00:29:48
And what has to be recertified? 00:29:49
How much space do we have in there? 00:29:52
I don't know if I understand the question between what's approved and what's recertified, What certified? 00:29:56
Originally or initially? 00:30:02
And how? 00:30:04
What it would take to? 00:30:06
Have to have a recertified. 00:30:08
How much flexibility is it now? 00:30:10
Yeah, I mean. 00:30:16
Yeah, your, it's your plan and within that plan there's a required. 00:30:17
Implementation plan of things that you're supposed to do over the next five years according to the certified plan, according to 00:30:24
your plan. 00:30:29
Do you have your own action plan of things that you want to do and a certain. 00:30:33
In the next five years. 00:30:38
Now since HP 462 was. 00:30:39
Adopted they've. 00:30:43
Gone back in and re. 00:30:44
Reworked it a little bit, added something in there for reporting. 00:30:46
On that and so at 5:50. 00:30:50
510 and 15 years. 00:30:52
As they want you to report on your progress. 00:30:55
Towards your actions in your plan. 00:30:59
And so if you have actions in there, whatever they might. 00:31:03
D to, you know, rezone to. 00:31:07
You know, add a transportation infrastructure. 00:31:11
To do this or that. 00:31:15
And you just report on this is what we did. This is what we didn't do. 00:31:16
You know, or maybe. 00:31:21
Things have changed in the last five years and so. 00:31:23
We, the City Council, wants to. 00:31:26
Revise. 00:31:28
To update and revise their. 00:31:30
Action Plan. 00:31:31
So what would? 00:31:32
What I hear you saying is that. 00:31:34
At the five year port. 00:31:36
It may require a recertification. 00:31:38
Now there's no recertification. Yelling they've required is just a reporting of progress towards that now. 00:31:41
It's the state legislature. They can go in and they can. 00:31:49
Update. 00:31:53
The law at their discretion. 00:31:55
There, but it wouldn't be without. 00:31:57
Consultation with the. 00:31:59
The cities and with the regional agencies and the leagues. 00:32:00
Cities and towns so. 00:32:04
Yeah, OK, now can I run? 00:32:09
Now we thank you. 00:32:12
Thank you, Dan. 00:32:14
Get out quick for you. 00:32:15
All right, so I'll take it from here. 00:32:18
And just go right to the schedule we have for the certification that we've been talking about all this while. 00:32:20
A couple of weeks ago we had a work session where we went through this. 00:32:26
Plan. 00:32:30
We. 00:32:31
Very good feedback and comments from. 00:32:32
Planning Commission. 00:32:36
Some of which was. 00:32:37
The concern of. 00:32:39
Utah City being duplicated on the other side. 00:32:41
Having a lot more housing on the other side. 00:32:44
We a lot of people also on the Planning Commission and public shared. 00:32:48
Concerns about. 00:32:52
Potentially. 00:32:54
Having development that brings in a lot of sales tax. 00:32:55
That would potentially lower property taxes. These are good concerns. 00:32:59
And all of this has been considered. 00:33:03
And been used to update the plan. 00:33:05
That we're discussing today. 00:33:07
Today is no different from what we did last time. 00:33:09
We just want more feedback. 00:33:11
Any changes or potential? 00:33:14
Things that we need to add to it. 00:33:17
Need to be gathered today. 00:33:19
And we have up until 5th. 00:33:21
Of October. 00:33:23
To submit this to the. 00:33:24
SAP Policy Committee. 00:33:27
So we're welcome to even have one-on-one meetings with council members. 00:33:31
To give you. 00:33:35
Have a chance to also. 00:33:37
Make some more solid. 00:33:38
Comments and inputs to this document as we go. 00:33:42
The meeting date for. 00:33:46
The certification to happen is. 00:33:48
The 19th of November. 00:33:50
So the 5th. 00:33:52
Gives us 45, gives them 45 days. 00:33:53
To review, give enough comments and then. 00:33:56
As he already mentioned. 00:34:00
Get precertified. 00:34:01
We make sure we incorporate all the comments. 00:34:04
And then? 00:34:07
Come back to City Council. 00:34:08
For consideration of an updated plan. 00:34:10
That has all the comments that you provide today. 00:34:13
To be considered for adoption. 00:34:16
So having said that, I've heard a lot of times go on today. 00:34:20
Zone and land use General plan, Master plan. 00:34:23
We want to have a short. 00:34:26
Course right now. 00:34:27
And this is intended to. 00:34:29
Put us all on the same page. 00:34:33
So we understand the. 00:34:35
Terms and the basic terms technologies that have been used here. 00:34:36
So we don't. 00:34:41
For lack of a better way of explaining, we don't twist what is intended to. 00:34:45
Having said that, zone in is the law. 00:34:50
If I may just real quick, just so everyone knows. 00:34:53
What I would like to do is have Anthony give his presentation. 00:34:56
In its entirety. 00:35:00
And so if you have questions during the presentation, make a note of it. 00:35:01
So that what he's done. 00:35:05
We can then orderly process the comments and questions. That's what I would. 00:35:06
Encourage. Sure. I have a question about that. 00:35:11
Are we going into a public hearing or will we do it after the presentation? 00:35:13
I would anticipate the flow would be a presentation from staff. 00:35:18
Then we have discussions and questions of staff. 00:35:21
Then we'll open a public hearing. 00:35:24
Hear all of the public comment. 00:35:26
Then we'll close the public hearing. 00:35:28
Have further discussion addressing any questions that are raised. 00:35:30
And then consider some kind of action. 00:35:33
Thank you. 00:35:35
Thank you. 00:35:37
So, umm. 00:35:38
As I'm mentioning, zoning is the law. 00:35:39
It's something that it is adopted by the City Council. 00:35:42
And that is what regulates. 00:35:46
What could be built? 00:35:48
And how we build it. 00:35:49
Building height, density, parking setbacks. 00:35:50
That is where you have the power to. 00:35:53
Affect changes to whatever is being. 00:35:56
Than in the future. So that is the law we work with right now. 00:35:58
To ensure all the development that's happening right now in the city. 00:36:02
On the other hand. 00:36:06
And and just to give you. 00:36:09
You know, umm. 00:36:11
How it looks This is a citywide zoning map. 00:36:12
With different colors. 00:36:15
Each column signifies different zone and it has various uses. 00:36:17
Under each. 00:36:22
And what is allowed? 00:36:23
You know what? What could be permitted by condition and what? 00:36:25
Is not allowed in various zones and that table on the side is just. 00:36:29
A sample use table to give you an idea of how it works. 00:36:33
And that is the law of emphasizing that again. 00:36:37
Land use, on the other hand, is community driven. 00:36:41
It is a visionary. 00:36:45
Document. 00:36:49
It guides and is expected to be more flexible to evolve. 00:36:51
To adapt to the evolving market. 00:36:56
And it's also. 00:36:58
One that. 00:37:00
Can you can hold a developer? 00:37:02
For implementation. 00:37:05
Because it's just a vision. 00:37:07
Things that we dream about. 00:37:09
Having in this area. 00:37:10
And the zoning is what? 00:37:12
Would affect these. 00:37:14
Vision. 00:37:16
Uses that or land uses. 00:37:18
That. 00:37:20
Are having to I mean our. 00:37:22
In the plan right now. 00:37:23
And that's how it looks usually. 00:37:26
Just shows different I have. 00:37:28
These three showing. 00:37:30
Different land uses that are being proposed in the plan. 00:37:32
We talked about. 00:37:37
We've heard General Planning Now discussions. 00:37:38
I don't want to. 00:37:40
Make it clear. 00:37:41
A general plan is a citywide vision again. 00:37:43
And if the general plan had a baby? 00:37:46
That would be. 00:37:48
Station area plan. 00:37:49
So stationary plan focuses. 00:37:52
On the half mile radius. 00:37:54
Just around the station. 00:37:57
Its intent is to. 00:38:00
Make sure that we're thinking about. 00:38:02
Land use. 00:38:04
Transportation connection. 00:38:05
And how the space is going to be envisioned overall? 00:38:07
When it comes to development. 00:38:11
General plan sets long term goals. 00:38:13
And certainly, you know, serves as a broad policy guide. 00:38:16
For the city. 00:38:20
As it grows. 00:38:21
Now Dan Wayne. 00:38:24
Explain I'm now on the baby. 00:38:26
Of a general plan. 00:38:28
The SAP. 00:38:29
Now, Dan Wayne explained. 00:38:31
That the state requirement. 00:38:33
The state requires us to plan. 00:38:37
For 1/2 mile radius. 00:38:39
So the station is the red. 00:38:41
X that you see in the map that I have showing. 00:38:43
The 1st circle, the green one. 00:38:47
As a half mile radius. 00:38:49
And you can tell. 00:38:50
That on the West side of the tracks line. 00:38:53
We have. 00:38:55
The Utah City development and. 00:38:57
Vineyard downtown. 00:38:59
Already planned. 00:39:00
Zoning in place. 00:39:02
It's being implemented and developed right now as we speak. 00:39:03
The southern side of it. 00:39:07
It's also built. 00:39:08
And the West and the east side. 00:39:10
Is what he described as. 00:39:12
Impracticable. 00:39:16
Land because it belongs to. 00:39:17
UVU and we don't have control over that. 00:39:19
So what's left in the half mile radius? 00:39:23
Is what I've highlighted in the blue. 00:39:25
Within the green circle. 00:39:28
That is not enough planning to do. 00:39:31
Considering the northeastern section. 00:39:33
Being undeveloped right now. 00:39:35
So Vineyard took a step back. 00:39:37
And when went to a. 00:39:40
A four mile radius. 00:39:43
And that's what you see as the yellow circle. 00:39:45
And that's what defined. 00:39:48
The focus area. 00:39:50
Of our station area plan. 00:39:51
Covering 430 acres. 00:39:53
Highlighted in the north section area of UV. 00:39:55
So very high level. 00:40:02
This umm uh. 00:40:05
Land use. 00:40:06
Framework here. 00:40:07
Considered based on. 00:40:09
The public engagement that happened two years ago and. 00:40:11
Constant engagement with the city. 00:40:14
This was what the consultants came up with. 00:40:18
As the most effective use of land. 00:40:22
For this area. 00:40:25
The 430 acres. 00:40:26
That has not been planned, I mean planned and developed yet. 00:40:27
This is not cast in stone. 00:40:32
They will change. 00:40:33
Or it could change depending on the zone and that is affected then. 00:40:35
Transportation networks. 00:40:39
We're only concerned. 00:40:41
You know the the city. 00:40:43
Envisions having a grid system. 00:40:45
And what we can do with this plan is. 00:40:47
And show that we have in its implementation phase. 00:40:49
The collector roads or the main roads? 00:40:52
Established. Well established like the Mill Road ext up north. 00:40:58
1200 N. 00:41:02
East to West. 00:41:04
Well established. 00:41:05
The secondary roads that you see in there looking like a grid. 00:41:07
To change. 00:41:10
How does that happen? 00:41:12
When developments come in. 00:41:13
And they're. 00:41:15
They do not work well with this. 00:41:17
It will change, for instance, if a Costco came on the corner of. 00:41:19
800 N and Mill Rd. 00:41:23
There wouldn't be a road going right through the parcel. 00:41:25
It could change. 00:41:29
So this is. 00:41:30
Just for us to have an idea of what? 00:41:32
Could happen. 00:41:34
On the left map. 00:41:37
You also see that there's. 00:41:38
There's a vision to have the. 00:41:40
The BRT line. 00:41:42
Which we currently have the UVX. 00:41:43
Come down into Vineyard City. 00:41:45
And go to the video station, making it a. 00:41:48
Of a transportation hub, not just one train station. 00:41:53
Open spaces. 00:41:57
Then talked about if we're considering open spaces and if they connect. 00:41:59
Yes, we are. 00:42:03
Utah City has been planned. 00:42:04
With. 00:42:06
Elena Park in the city, I mean. 00:42:08
In the development. 00:42:11
And there's intention to connect this linear park. 00:42:12
Over to the east side of the tracks line. 00:42:15
To allow more people to have access to. 00:42:18
Various parts that will be developed further. 00:42:20
Along in development. 00:42:23
And also. 00:42:25
And Charlotte, there's still connectivity. 00:42:26
Through a green line. 00:42:29
For people to enjoy this. 00:42:31
In the city. 00:42:33
So to establish. 00:42:35
Or to implement all these plans and visions that we're saying and again. 00:42:38
Everything that I'm showing is still very high level, very conceptual. 00:42:42
I'm not asking you to approve this as. 00:42:46
A zoning law? Because it's not. 00:42:49
It's just a land use mission. 00:42:51
What could happen? 00:42:54
These are the most effective. 00:42:55
Land uses that could happen in the space. 00:42:57
We need to establish the right of ways. 00:43:01
Talk about that. 00:43:03
Once we get that done, when developments come in. 00:43:04
We know what we're doing. We need to update the zoning. 00:43:07
And that is what will regulate what is being built, what could be built, and how. 00:43:09
Tall or wide or? 00:43:14
You know, just think about it. 00:43:15
Every whatever the building. 00:43:17
All development that comes in could be regulated with. 00:43:19
The zoning update. 00:43:23
That would happen eventually in the future. 00:43:26
To realize this vision for the station area plan. 00:43:29
The city would have to coordinate with. 00:43:33
Property owners. 00:43:35
In such a way that. 00:43:36
Everything that comes in. 00:43:38
Is works works well. 00:43:40
Or it's in line with. 00:43:43
The overall vision, which is the. 00:43:46
General plan. 00:43:48
And everything, every other use that's happening currently in the area, we're visiting a lot of users such as. 00:43:50
You know we have in the 8th the Huntsman Council to come in. 00:43:57
There's going to be. 00:44:00
Potentially. 00:44:03
Medical uses that spring up. 00:44:05
And other. 00:44:07
Umm. 00:44:08
You know, medical services that could be provided. 00:44:09
Within that area. 00:44:13
Who's coming in? We don't know at all. 00:44:14
But time will tell at the market evolves. 00:44:16
When you get to coordinate with. 00:44:19
The infrastructure project, I mean the. 00:44:22
Various infrastructure projects. 00:44:24
Public infrastructure is going to be built and also also establish. 00:44:26
The right design standards. 00:44:30
To make sure that everything that's coming in is really something that Vineyard needs. 00:44:32
And lastly. 00:44:38
I would continue to support. 00:44:39
The land owners and also monetary remediation efforts that's ongoing right now. 00:44:41
On the proposed 430 acre site. 00:44:46
For this plan. 00:44:50
So now we all know what a zoning. 00:44:54
Map is. 00:44:57
And what a land use map looks like. 00:44:58
On the left we have. 00:45:02
Mccarran Zone in. 00:45:04
And on the right we have the proposed land use. 00:45:06
In the plan based on everything else that's happened. 00:45:09
Considering public engagements. 00:45:14
And analysis. 00:45:16
Of the best use of the land. 00:45:19
This is just a visualization to, you know, illustration to show you how. 00:45:25
A coroner could potentially look. It could have a. 00:45:29
A bike, bike, bike lane. 00:45:32
With white sidewalks. 00:45:35
Protected from the road. 00:45:36
You know, narrow roads that. 00:45:39
Make it safe for everyone. 00:45:40
To enjoy our streets. 00:45:41
Without fear of being hurt in any way. 00:45:43
Because it's safe. 00:45:46
So what are the next steps after? 00:45:48
Getting certified. 00:45:51
After we've. 00:45:52
Gone through all the. 00:45:53
Things we need to do get all your. 00:45:55
Feedback. 00:45:57
Present this to. 00:45:58
Mad get certified. 00:46:00
We'll come back with a refined version of this plan that you're looking at. 00:46:02
But it's still a draft working document. 00:46:06
We can. We can pass that for sure. 00:46:09
We'll take all your comments. 00:46:11
Make sure this plan reflects every single thing that you share with us today. 00:46:13
Go to Planning Commission. 00:46:19
Come back to you. 00:46:20
And at that point? 00:46:21
You will consider this for. 00:46:23
A formal adoption, as Dan Wayne had explained. 00:46:27
So that is the end of my presentation. 00:46:32
Thank you. 00:46:35
Sarah, I had a quick. 00:46:37
Crescent, OH. 00:46:38
Considering timing of discussion, would it be prudent to open the public hearing and maybe allow people to speak that need to 00:46:40
leave as it's almost 7:00? 00:46:44
And then continue with. 00:46:49
Maybe that are the best conversation that could. 00:46:50
Come, we're happy. 00:46:53
To do that. 00:46:56
They'll feel OK with that. 00:46:57
All right, that is totally fine. Morgan, you did stand up. Did staff have anything they wanted to say before we open public 00:46:59
hearings? 00:47:02
Just to address any questions from the Council, but we're we're fine to afterwards. 00:47:08
OK. All right. 00:47:13
Well, thank you. With that, we are now going to officially open the public hearing. 00:47:16
There's several people here that were at our last workshop on this item, so I'm excited to see some of you. 00:47:21
Sorry all of you that were there, I'm excited to see. 00:47:26
Clarify that. 00:47:30
But by all means, go use your time right now. We'll have. 00:47:33
Public hearing. Then after we close it, we'll address those comments and have further discussion. So time is now yours. 00:47:36
And just to confirm, is there? 00:47:42
That time limit on any of them does anybody need? 00:47:43
Do I need to worry about? 00:47:46
Save a timer or. 00:47:47
We traditionally do 3 to 5 minutes but. 00:47:49
What's up? 00:47:53
Let's go ahead and do. 00:47:57
5 minutes. 00:47:59
OK, so. 00:48:00
Members of the public, time is yours. 00:48:02
That's just, I don't want to bump it. 00:48:16
Mess it up. 00:48:20
Daria Evans Villas residence.