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Let me all right, let me try one more time. 00:02:46
OK. I think I have you coming in loud and clear. Thank you, Sir. 00:02:53
Alrighty guys, it is March 24th, 60. What do we got Tony? Is it 601? 00:10:52
All right, I am Mayor Zach Stratton and we are going to start with the Vineyard City Council meeting. 00:10:58
I am going to turn the time over to Councilman Mccumber here to give us our opening prayer and Pledge of Allegiance, and we will 00:11:03
jump into it. 00:11:06
Our dear heavenly Father. 00:11:15
We thank me so much for this beautiful day. 00:11:17
We're able to come together as a community. 00:11:20
And engage in our civic process. 00:11:23
We ask. 00:11:26
Very plainly. 00:11:28
For your hand. 00:11:31
In guiding us and helping us make wise decisions and to serve this community. 00:11:32
I want to express my gratitude. 00:11:37
For the position that you've. 00:11:39
And trusted us in. 00:11:41
To allow us to. 00:11:43
Come before our community in an effort. 00:11:44
To serve them. 00:11:46
And I would very much appreciate. 00:11:49
Your guidance and support. 00:11:51
As we continue to. 00:11:53
Strive. 00:11:54
In that endeavor. 00:11:55
Can I say this in the name of Jesus Christ? In it Amen. 00:11:56
Would you please recite with me? 00:12:06
I pledge allegiance to the flag. 00:12:08
Of the United States of America. 00:12:10
And to the Republic for which it stands. 00:12:12
One nation under God. 00:12:15
OK. Thank you so much. And Parker, you get a. 00:12:23
Way to go buddy. 00:12:29
Where that American flag? 00:12:30
Loud and proud. 00:12:32
OK, we're going to jump into the Mayors report 4.1. 00:12:33
A little bit of an explanation kind of what's been happening for the business community. This is me. 00:12:38
And the residents of Vineyard as well. 00:12:42
In December of last year, there was a fee added called a Toughie Transportation Utility Fee. 00:12:44
And the intent of that was to. 00:12:49
Help in some Rd. projects and stuff like that. Ongoing expense that the city had. 00:12:53
The net effect of that, though, is that the tough fee. 00:12:58
Really. In a? In a? 00:13:01
Non capitalistic way maybe that's a good way to say it really hammered our business community. Some of some of our local 00:13:05
businesses on the North End of town the industrials were charging. 00:13:09
5000 Seven, $1000 a month. 00:13:13
Which was more than their. 00:13:16
Their monthly rent. 00:13:17
So we've been, I've been working hard with Evan, with. 00:13:18
Trying to see what we could do to limit that fee and change it up. 00:13:21
What we've settled on is I feel pretty comfortable in. 00:13:24
In eliminating that fee. 00:13:27
And the thought is we're going to go through the budget process maybe a year or two and look at look at what we. 00:13:30
If we can find that revenue in other places. 00:13:35
But. 00:13:39
The intent was I was going to sign an executive order, but since it's a utility fee and a transportation fee, we're gonna have to 00:13:40
bring that to council next week to lower that or even eliminate it. So we're gonna get Jesse to work on the language for that, and 00:13:43
we're gonna have another. 00:13:47
City Council meeting. 00:13:52
Next week to get that taken care of. 00:13:53
But. 00:13:55
This is uh uh. 00:13:55
It's been a. 00:13:56
You know this this fee again. 00:13:59
We just want businesses out there in the community to recognize, hey vineyards, a place we want you come. 00:14:02
We want to grow with us and we want to make sure that there's good alignment. 00:14:06
Between uh. 00:14:09
Our tax code and the fee structure and. 00:14:11
In a way that will invite the the business committee to invest their dollars here and come and grow with us. So. 00:14:14
That's that's my report right there on that. 00:14:19
I've got 5.1. We have a presentation. 00:14:22
We have a. 00:14:26
Zach Beatty, Our. 00:14:27
Recreation Manager is good. 00:14:28
Is and I assume that the. 00:14:30
You are PA folks are here here. Awesome. 00:14:33
I'll have you guys come up and kind of explain this is what it is and. 00:14:35
How awesome Zach is and how lucky we are to have him. 00:14:38
We love our rec program here in Vineyard and does a great job so. 00:14:41
Thank you. 00:14:44
Let's go there, yeah. 00:14:45
Thank you, Mayor and Council. My name is Kevin Schmidt. I'm the executive director for the Okra Recreation Parks District. 00:14:49
Up in the Salt Lake. 00:14:55
County area. 00:14:56
And I'm the president of Europe A. 00:14:57
I'm Michael Christensen. I'm the Assistant Executive Director for URPA. 00:15:00
Thank you for giving us. 00:15:05
Some time today. 00:15:06
URPA, which stands for Utah Recreation and Parks Association, represents about 2000. 00:15:08
Park and Rec. 00:15:14
Professionals in the state of Utah. 00:15:15
And those are the people that are consistently working behind the scenes. 00:15:18
To make. 00:15:22
Your community better. 00:15:23
I I want you to picture Vineyard. 00:15:27
Without. 00:15:30
Parks and Recreation. 00:15:31
Without any parts, without playgrounds, with children playing on them. 00:15:32
Without sports programs. 00:15:36
And uh. 00:15:38
I I think we can all agree that that is not the kind of community that. 00:15:38
We would want to live in. 00:15:43
Your your park and rec team and and. 00:15:47
Others throughout the state. 00:15:50
Work tirelessly to. 00:15:51
Make sure that these. 00:15:53
Programs and events happen. 00:15:55
They do a lot more than just manage facilities and organized sports programs. 00:15:59
Their work helps to shape. 00:16:04
The kind of community that people want to actually live in. 00:16:07
So thank you to. 00:16:10
You mayor and council for supporting. 00:16:13
The Park and Rec. 00:16:15
Department in your city. 00:16:16
I'm going to turn the time over to Mikel to present. 00:16:19
Awesome. We are so excited to be here tonight and thanks so much for having us. We actually get to recognize two of your 00:16:23
outstanding Parks and Recreation professionals. The first one is actually Ben King. 00:16:28
Ben has been part of our URPA Leadership Academy for the last 12 months. So thank you for your support and him doing that. 00:16:33
Basically what that entailed was him going to other agencies across the state for the last 12 months and learning all he could 00:16:38
from that. So he has graduated from that program. And so we just want to recognize that he has done that. So have him come up in 00:16:43
just a second. And then the second profession I already mentioned, Zach. 00:16:49
Every year we solicit nominations for awards for different categories throughout the state. One of those categories is Outstanding 00:16:54
Professional. We recognize that in a variety of capacities, recreation, Aquatics, different things like that. This year we had 00:17:00
over 100 applicants for those various awards and Zach was selected for our Young Professional of the Year. So if you know Zach, 00:17:06
you know he has a huge passion for working in Parks and Recreation. 00:17:11
Does really well at giving back to his community and since he started here in Vineyard a short time ago. 00:17:17
It's our understanding that your guys's programs and races and different community events have grown exponentially, and so we're 00:17:22
just super thrilled for him and the work he's doing. 00:17:26
He's very involved with URPA. He is. 00:17:31
In our central region, he is actually the elect to be the president of that region. So we just want to thank you guys for 00:17:33
supporting him and supporting Parks and Recreation throughout Utah, being a great example of what communities can build. 00:17:38
And yeah, just thanks Vineyard, and thanks to Zach and Ben. 00:17:44
Awesome, I'll have them come up and grab this. 00:17:48
Awesome. 00:17:51
Let's give a round of applause. Let it go, guys. 00:17:53
Do you want to should we jump in a picture with them? Let's get a picture with these guys. This is actually this is way cool more 00:17:58
so. 00:18:00
Yes. 00:18:03
Brian come up. Yeah, Brian's got to be in the engineer. Brian's really cool too. 00:18:07
Yeah. 00:18:10
Next year. 00:18:14
Hello. There we go. OK, ready. 00:18:17
OK, ready 12. 00:18:30
Thanks. Perfect. 00:18:32
All righty. 00:18:51
Let's jump now to I had public comments here, but. 00:18:53
Let me. 00:18:56
Raise your hand up here to talk about you have a public comment. 00:18:57
OK, let's do this. 00:19:01
I assume without parking I'm going to take a wild guess. 00:19:02
OK. Let's go through a couple other things. We'll kind of get closer to that so we can have the. 00:19:06
The public comment and all that more. 00:19:10
In a little more. 00:19:12
Coherent manner. 00:19:14
OK, so I'm going to turn the time we're gonna we need to move into a public hearing now. 00:19:15
To go over the Forest development agreement and the IHC development agreement. 00:19:18
Can I get a motion for that? 00:19:21
So moved I second. 00:19:24
All in favor. 00:19:29
Aye. Motion passes. 00:19:31
We're going to turn the time over to cash. 00:19:33
The lead out in this session, go ahead. Thank you for your time. 00:19:35
Once this opens up here I have the Forge and Intermountain Healthcare. I have a single presentation here because these. 00:19:39
Development agreements are. 00:19:46
Pretty tied together. 00:19:47
And so we do have Ryan with representing Intermountain Health and then Jason representing 6th Rich Partners, formerly Dakota 00:19:49
Pacific. 00:19:52
On this these development agreements so. 00:19:56
Quick background here on the Forge, this is in 2024. There was a development agreement signed by the City Council. 00:19:59
With six rich partners. 00:20:06
To allow them to build but they. 00:20:08
There were some requirements about like a regionally significant entertainment anchor. 00:20:11
Anyways, it's a 45 acre development. 00:20:16
That includes in around. 00:20:19
Healthcare property. 00:20:20
They currently have 1100 residential units permitted. This development agreement does not change that number, does not increase 00:20:21
it. 00:20:24
And it does require this this DA required that this regionally significant entertainment use. 00:20:27
Was part of the first phase. 00:20:33
And so we've been working. Here's a map to kind of show you outlined in red is, is the proposed 6 rich partners the 4th project 00:20:35
And then in blue would be Intermountain Health if, if these development agreements go through currently. 00:20:41
And around only. 00:20:48
Owns the southern parcel. 00:20:49
So. 00:20:51
Let me go to. 00:20:55
Here's the request that that they're looking for here, and this is specifically for the Forge. 00:20:56
They've been having a difficult time landing a regionally significant entertainment anchor. 00:21:01
And So what they're. 00:21:06
Trying to propose here is to. 00:21:07
Bring in their first phase 40,000 square feet of. 00:21:09
Commercial. 00:21:13
Which would then allow them to. 00:21:14
Move on to build the residential. 00:21:16
And it would also relocate the first phase and the the regionally significant anchor if I go back to this map here. 00:21:18
It would move the commercial block to the the northwest corner of Vineyard Connector and Mill Rd. 00:21:24
So that's where they build this commercial space, and then they'd move the entertainment anchor. 00:21:30
Further South on Mill Rd. 00:21:34
Whereas currently it requires the entertainment to be on the corner in commercial. 00:21:36
Little bit further shell. 00:21:40
Last week we did have a Planning Commission. They they did recommend approval of this development agreement. 00:21:45
The other thing to note is the Planning Commission would be come the. 00:21:50
Approval body for the entertainment anchor the the IT has a very specific language in our code on what? 00:21:54
This anchor must be and it's up to the Planning Commission. Previously, they did approve a climbing gym. 00:22:00
To be the thinker. There there were. 00:22:05
Installed in those negotiations. So that's not coming about anymore. 00:22:06
But it would continue to let the Planning Commission be that approval body. 00:22:10
And then the last thing is roadway and utilities as they were built, I believe in 2018. 00:22:13
Our city engineering department just wants to make sure that this roadway and the utilities going to the site are not going to be. 00:22:19
Heavily impacted and they'll. 00:22:25
You know, be able to be used in these city roads like 650 N that borders the yard and the forge. 00:22:26
Is built back to its its current state before construction. 00:22:33
And then we we did update the development agreement with our. 00:22:37
New language for impact fees to make sure that impact fees are calculated at the time of building permit. 00:22:41
If we want, we could take a break there and. 00:22:46
If there's any questions about the forge specifically, we can go over those or I can fly through and let's do that. Council. Any 00:22:49
questions on the Forge development agreement? 00:22:53
Did they have any concerns about the entertainment acre being in the phase one? I know. 00:22:57
Previously they were having some trouble. 00:23:03
Like getting the development off the ground because of that. Yeah. So this would move the entertainment anchor to not be the phase 00:23:04
one anymore. This would be the the new phase one is 40,000 square feet of retail commercial space on that corner and the anytime 00:23:09
they could bring that that entertainment anchor. 00:23:13
You know, one comes from the day we want to build that. They could go for it, but. 00:23:18
Essentially they they're saying they need to get this commercial and residential going before they can get. 00:23:22
Movement on this. 00:23:27
Entertainment if no. 00:23:29
If no. 00:23:31
And then it comes forward before that. 00:23:33
You know, before they build all those things, what what phases that came in. 00:23:35
The entertainment anchor the entertainment it would just be. 00:23:38
After phase one, anything after phase one, I see. So there's no guarantee we'll ever get it then? 00:23:41
So the the development agreement still outlines a block and acreage that is required for the. 00:23:46
I can go back to this map here. 00:23:51
Is there anything they cannot get pool pool permits for or anything be? 00:23:53
Unless that. 00:23:57
No, so they could pull everything out first. 00:23:58
That's the last thing I felt her hands and gosh, we're sorry. Couldn't do it. 00:24:01
Yeah, essentially they, I mean they, they would not, they have to reserve that. 00:24:04
Many acres of land for the entertainment use so they could. 00:24:07
Nothing gets built there. 00:24:10
But potentially. But in return we are getting 40,000 square feet of. 00:24:12
The the retail commercial space. 00:24:15
So that's essentially the trade off. They're saying here's right now, we can't land this this. 00:24:17
Anchor so if we want to get moving with development. 00:24:21
We need to bring in something else 1st and that's where we've been talking and landed on 40,000 square feet of. 00:24:24
Of commercial space. 00:24:30
Also, when we swap the land from the. 00:24:31
Entertainment maker from the north to the South? Sure. 00:24:34
Do we have the same amount of land in both? 00:24:37
Both no SO. 00:24:39
The the original. 00:24:41
Development agreement language. 00:24:42
Just outlined I think it said four point something 4.7 acres which is that entire block and and no entertainment anchor would 00:24:43
actually take up that entire space. 00:24:47
And so it was just. 00:24:52
The the new language says 3 point something acres. 00:24:53
Just to essentially outline the southern block. 00:24:57
But something like the we had the the Momentum climbing gym, they were approved. 00:25:00
They were nowhere near the you know, 3. 00:25:03
Or 4 acre project, but we did determine that they were regionally significant enough. 00:25:06
And it wasn't necessarily the size, it's more of the impact and are people coming from outside of Vineyard to Vineyard to spend 00:25:11
their money here? 00:25:14
That's essentially what we're looking at with this anchor. 00:25:17
I'm very much interested in having this this land developed and then getting the. 00:25:22
I didn't. I really. I really AM. 00:25:26
But I'm also concerned that. 00:25:27
We've had many promises. 00:25:29
For this piece of land. 00:25:31
Over the last couple of decades. 00:25:32
And nothing is there yet. 00:25:34
And we've always, there's always a reason and we come across this. 00:25:36
This problem or that problem? 00:25:39
And so I'm. 00:25:41
I'm just not comfortable. 00:25:43
Hold, you know, leaving that to the very end because that's something they can put off to the end. That's worked well. 00:25:45
It's not financially peaceful at the. 00:25:51
They can do like they've done for the last 10 years and not build anything. 00:25:53
It might be worth having Jason speak to their their efforts in in trying to attract regionally significant anchor. They they 00:25:56
definitely have have been trying over the last few years. 00:26:01
And I don't know. 00:26:06
If you want to hear from him. 00:26:07
Yeah. Jason, do you want to kind of review that? Please come on up. 00:26:08
If you set your name in the mic, that'd be awesome. 00:26:12
Jason Head with six Bridge partners and. 00:26:15
Thank you for having me here today. Thanks for coming. 00:26:17
This might be obvious, but. 00:26:22
Land we can't build on doesn't do us any good for developers and we want to build. 00:26:23
All of this land. 00:26:27
We intend to find. 00:26:29
Regionally significant anchor. 00:26:31
For this site and and for the community. 00:26:33
It's just a much, much bigger hurdle than it is for us to. 00:26:36
Find tenants for 40,000 square feet of Upscale. 00:26:41
Retail that will have. 00:26:44
Boutique restaurants and soft goods and things that really. 00:26:47
Energized. 00:26:50
This corner, especially this. 00:26:52
This corner is going to be a big demand for those types of users. 00:26:54
So we absolutely continue to work on. 00:26:58
Originally significant anchor. 00:27:01
Some of the challenges we face are. 00:27:02
You know many. 00:27:05
Frankly, rely on. 00:27:06
Alcohol sales and that's been a tough hurdle to educate. 00:27:08
Some groups on. 00:27:12
We did have a climbing gym. Who? 00:27:14
Frankly, took it to their board and then backed out at the last minute and that was just. 00:27:15
Mostly, I think a timing we intend to. 00:27:19
Reignite those. 00:27:23
Conversations with that user. 00:27:24
But we're still very bullish. 00:27:27
That user, it's just. 00:27:29
It it's holding up development of. 00:27:32
All of that acreage. 00:27:34
So how many pages are there in the new agreement? 00:27:36
Here's the phase one or the phase two lasting phase three. How many phases? 00:27:39
Well, I think there's just. 00:27:44
Yeah. We, we initially just have phase one. This is saying. 00:27:46
Before you can build anything else, you need to build phase one. 00:27:49
Outside of that. 00:27:52
Once you, you know. 00:27:53
Built that phase you can build. 00:27:54
Whatever else. 00:27:56
So the trigger is we we have to have at least 20,000 square feet of that retail under construction before we can pull a permit on 00:27:59
any residential units. 00:28:03
I think my issue is is that. 00:28:09
Originally we did a trade off of density. Like lots of density in exchange. I mean, it was a whole package, right? 00:28:11
So not guaranteeing the entertainment you start getting the density. 00:28:18
So what would you be willing to trade? Because we're giving up a really big. 00:28:22
This is going to have a great regional attraction there. 00:28:26
Are you willing to give up some density for that? Because you're getting all of the good but? 00:28:29
What are we getting in exchange? 00:28:34
You're getting tax revenue sooner. 00:28:36
Right. And I get that, but like the the anger from all the citizens was the amount of density that you were given with us. 00:28:38
I I will speak up on that just briefly. 00:28:46
The the original or the development agreement was signed in in 2024. There there was no trade off then of the density. No, I know 00:28:48
I'm saying originally. 00:28:52
Right, that's what I'm saying is the regional entertainment anchor that became a novel a requirement as of 2024 with no increased 00:28:56
identity. 00:29:00
I'm going back years, right. So about accountability going, but that's what is that was a new idea was to bring this regional 00:29:04
incident significant but there were other trade-offs in that whole package as I look back through the contracts. 00:29:10
That's what I'm saying is like, this is a big carry on top. 00:29:16
And it's like. 00:29:18
I get that we want businesses and it is. You're right, you don't want it to stop and we need to lower taxes. But. 00:29:19
I see the citizens coming and saying, OK, we're not going to get that, but the. 00:29:25
Density stays the same. 00:29:29
Point of clarification. 00:29:30
From what I understand about this proposal, this this change of the development agreement, it's not is it getting rid of the 00:29:31
entertainment district completely? No, it you know, it keeps it, it's just a it's a phasing, OK, Yeah, it's just a phasing issue 00:29:36
where the guarantee that it takes away the yes, the guarantee. So it's like can we put in some sort of guarantee that if it 00:29:40
doesn't come. 00:29:45
The last phase you can't build the residential until X, so at least it's. 00:29:50
On the sour end side of things that people don't like, it goes OK. 00:29:55
Before you build this residential I would at least like that type of trade off. 00:30:00
Something that pushes it to. 00:30:04
To maintain the fighting because of it all. 00:30:06
Fills out. You just have one remnant law, and I know what that means. It means coming back to the Council and changing it to 00:30:08
something else. 00:30:11
You know, you have to understand, we really do. 00:30:16
We want to understand, we want it to be built redo. 00:30:19
We have been burned a lot in the past. 00:30:22
And we might not be burned again. 00:30:24
Sure, I mean the the density overall. 00:30:26
Hasn't changed, it's just the sequencing. 00:30:30
I mean, in fact, we're also making other. 00:30:33
Concessions here. I mean, there's the language in the original. 00:30:36
DA can be interpreted that. 00:30:39
Impact fees are based on when they. 00:30:42
Development agreement was originally executed not based on. 00:30:44
Then in place. 00:30:47
Impacts when we were. 00:30:50
When we pull permits. 00:30:51
And that has been cleaned up in this agreement as well. So now. 00:30:53
Exposed to a higher level of impact. Positive, yeah. 00:30:56
Yeah. Any other questions? 00:30:59
On this one. 00:31:02
OK, should we jump into? 00:31:03
Yeah. Thank you very much. 00:31:07
Thank you. 00:31:10
OK. So Intermountain Health, they're looking to consolidate the existing. 00:31:10
Lot that they have with the corner of Geneva and Vineyard Connector. So going back to here. 00:31:14
And we can see that they are. 00:31:18
Wanting those two lots if you want, and in doing so. 00:31:20
It will remove the the eastern connection of Cauldron Rd. So that's one thing in the development agreement they don't want to have 00:31:23
to have their their project be. 00:31:26
Bisected by that road. 00:31:30
It does require an iconic architectural feature at the corner of. 00:31:34
Of Vineyard Connector in Geneva we as staff, we felt that this is a very important gateway for the community and. 00:31:37
And the design standards of the forge were very strict and would have required a very iconic building to be built there, but with 00:31:42
Intermountain Health wanting to do a clinic or a hospital. 00:31:47
That kind of changes that. And so we have language here that says that they have to. 00:31:52
Develop that corner in an iconic way that will come through approval at site. 00:31:56
Find application time. 00:32:00
It changes to allow medical use throughout the site. 00:32:02
As of right now, I don't believe it's a permitted use. 00:32:06
It includes modifications to the FMU. So that's the Forge mixed-use design guidelines. The forge is its own special. 00:32:10
Zoning district that has very strict design guidelines on. 00:32:17
Have a building fronts the road on where the parking is located. 00:32:20
But after discussions with Intermountain Health. 00:32:24
We've determined that this is a hospital and this is one of those things where function should be over form and we want to make 00:32:27
sure that they can operate. 00:32:30
Smoothly as a hospital and people are able to get the care that they need. 00:32:34
When they need it. 00:32:37
And so it has those modifications and then as well as the roadway utilities and. 00:32:39
Impact fee changes to the development agreement. 00:32:43
So that is. 00:32:47
It from the. 00:32:48
The mountain Health. 00:32:49
Awesome, any questions from council on IHC? 00:32:50
DA amendments. 00:32:54
Are we collecting all impact fees live? They're not something that was tied in years ago. 00:32:56
So that's the updated language. We've worked with Jesse Riddle on on updating the language that says at the time of building 00:33:02
permit. 00:33:05
Is when we will calculate impact fees. 00:33:08
So if I see losing. 00:33:11
That means that there will be like there'll be a non profit that we won't ever get. 00:33:14
Sales tax rate, Income tax. 00:33:18
Property tax them, is that right? 00:33:21
I might yield to Jason or to Ryan to answer that. 00:33:22
Now we won't get in. 00:33:27
Hey, Sir. 00:33:31
Ryan Wallace, representing Intermittent. 00:33:32
Intermountain Healthcare. I'm not a tax attorney so I'm not entirely sure, but I do believe that's. 00:33:34
That would be correct. It's at least as it relates to real property taxes, Um. 00:33:40
If they have a. 00:33:45
Businesses and clinics that operate out of the medical office buildings those. 00:33:48
Activities may be taxed. 00:33:52
Once again, I'm not entirely sure how that. 00:33:54
That works. 00:33:56
But yeah, it wouldn't be taxed at the same level. 00:33:57
As if it were retail or other commercial. 00:34:00
I thank you. 00:34:05
Thank you. I mean no disrespect to your project. 00:34:06
With this question but. 00:34:10
Because other products come and say they're going to be built like. 00:34:13
Are you building like you're ready to go build now? 00:34:16
Or is it are you? Is this a phase thing like in two or three years? 00:34:19
Yeah, and it. 00:34:22
It'll be phased. Umm. 00:34:23
They have the current property which would limit it just to clinic space. 00:34:25
They're expanding it so that we have the flexibility to do medical office clinics based and potentially later a hospital. 00:34:30
So this. 00:34:37
Because we currently own that southern property. 00:34:38
Don't own the northern property and that's really since we haven't acquired the property and we're still. 00:34:41
Determining feasibility. There's still work that would need to be done to design and then build. 00:34:46
But I do know that that's part of their long term plan for the property, hence them wanting to get additional property so that 00:34:52
they could do not just the the potential medical office building or clinic, but. 00:34:57
Potentially more. 00:35:02
OK. This isn't a question. Thanks. I don't have a question. 00:35:03
If it ends up not happening, what does it do? Revert back? 00:35:07
If they don't end up building, if yeah they the cell doesn't end up going through after the study or whatnot, does it? Does the 00:35:11
zoning stay the same? 00:35:15
I mean it would be their their ownership and the development would be signed and reported, right? But what if what if they don't 00:35:19
buy? Is this pendant on sell? 00:35:22
I am not sure on that. 00:35:27
Yeah, we can. We can make it that way if the. 00:35:29
That's what the city wants is. 00:35:32
But I can tell you this was kind of the last bit and then our money is hard and then we'll be purchasing within weeks after it, 00:35:34
so. 00:35:37
Yeah, I I just It's not you again. I have a room full of Washtenaw and people have broken promises. 00:35:40
I feel like you always have to ask like. 00:35:47
You know, from developers or whatnot. So. 00:35:50
I think it needs to be dependent on that. Like that it would revert back like pending on the cell. 00:35:54
Right. 00:35:58
We could work on language to add that as a condition of approval. 00:35:59
I mean, I'm not saying it wouldn't, but just. 00:36:02
So that the code goes. 00:36:04
Yeah, I am. 00:36:06
The way I do like your comment about. 00:36:08
Nonprofit. 00:36:11
Because our RDA is. 00:36:12
It's not being sold like it was, right? 00:36:15
From 25 years ago, it's not producing the tax revenue. 00:36:18
And it's not successful as what it was, right? We've already given a bunch of it to the university. It will be nonprofit. 00:36:21
And you know, and so forth and so on, and you get the. 00:36:28
At some point it does have to. 00:36:31
In the role it was designed to, which is to help us. 00:36:33
Have a sales tax base that we can. 00:36:36
That he can thrive on. 00:36:38
We appreciate very much if you'd like to go there and we'd like to have you there. 00:36:40
We just need to make sure that we can structure it so that it works for us as well. 00:36:44
Awesome. Any other questions, Comments from council? 00:36:50
OK, seeing none, I will entertain a motion. 00:36:55
It was a public hearing. I moved to public hearing. 00:37:02
Do we need to close the pull up hearing first? Do we open it already? 00:37:05
You open the public hearing, but there's been no comment yet from the public. 00:37:09
OK, Yeah. 00:37:12
Does anyone want to speak to this development agreement? 00:37:15
Yeah, I moved to close. 00:37:17
I thought we had to close it. 00:37:22
Go ahead. 00:37:27
It's OK, I'll deal with him later. 00:37:29
Thank you, Kim Cornelius Villas. 00:37:31
This has been a perpetual project. We've been in town almost five years now and. 00:37:34
For the better part of those five years, all we've heard is the board is going to be the forge is going to be developed, going to 00:37:39
be developed. 00:37:42
Major portion of that was parking and I can tell by those that are in attendance tonight, the parking is a big deal in Vineyard. 00:37:45
Can we get some kind of really quick synopsis of what this whole project including IC and? 00:37:52
And the developer of the forge. 00:37:58
Because they were talking about a parking garage. That sounded pretty good. 00:38:00
Helped mitigate some things we'd just like to know going in. 00:38:03
As they need that changed. 00:38:06
Could you give us a summary of it? 00:38:08
Awesome. Good question. 00:38:10
Another public comments. 00:38:11
OK. Who would you be able to answer that? 00:38:13
Cash or one of the. 00:38:16
I mean, this development agreement makes no changes, no increase or decrease to their parking requirements. It would take me a 00:38:18
minute to pull up the actual parking code. I imagine with Intermountain Health they're actually going to have a surplus of 00:38:22
parking. Of what? 00:38:27
The forge would have built. 00:38:31
That's one of the design guidelines that they're asking to be changed, just not be helped to the. 00:38:32
The lower count that the forge would. 00:38:37
For Intermountain. 00:38:39
It's my understanding that these are all rentals too, right? So I believe they can build. I want to say it's 1075. 00:38:40
1075 units. 00:38:46
As rentals and if they want to go to the 1100 they could do 25. 00:38:48
4 shell units. 00:38:52
OK. 00:38:54
Yeah, please come on up. 00:38:58
Jason had 6 bridge partners. 00:39:01
With the multi family 1 and Buzzy. 00:39:04
Get built. We will build. 00:39:06
Parking structures with that building permit that. 00:39:07
Accommodate adequate parking for those users and then same with the retail I mean we'll we'll. 00:39:10
Provide enough. 00:39:14
Parking per code and. 00:39:15
Maybe then some depending upon what the use ends up being. 00:39:17
OK. And real quick about that parking. 00:39:21
Last time we, last time we spoke about this in the meeting, you, you were saying that. 00:39:24
Representative, listen you, I'm not sure what. 00:39:29
OK, was saying that they would, the parking garage would be there, it would be controlled parking. 00:39:31
Every control gate and only a residence be able to park in the garage. 00:39:36
So forth. 00:39:40
That's correct. And so roughly how many? 00:39:41
You and the Do you remember how many spaces per? 00:39:44
Unit you were thinking? 00:39:46
I don't know off the top of my head. 00:39:47
OK, the code is 1.5 stalls per residential dwelling unit. 00:39:49
For every two for every two units you get 3 salts. 00:39:59
Yeah, yeah. It's just part of our calculation. So basically. 00:40:02
You know, one follow you gave us one follow you to fight for the second one. 00:40:06
This one amounts to it. 00:40:10
Yeah. 00:40:11
Public knowledge that's already grandfathered and there's nothing we can do about that. That was the previous council from five 00:40:12
years ago. 00:40:15
If we could find it, we would just say, you know. 00:40:19
But legally, we if. 00:40:23
It's agreed upon already in the contract. 00:40:24
OK. OK. Any other questions? 00:40:28
OK. Oh. 00:40:31
Come on down. 00:40:35
My name is Tyler Harrelton. 00:40:40
I don't know if this is a zoning or development agreement issue. 00:40:42
But I would love to see. 00:40:46
With this development that. 00:40:48
You don't have driveways going straight on the 800 N. 00:40:49
I think that would create a lot of conflict. I don't know if that's already part of it. 00:40:53
As an exit as all. 00:40:58
Yeah, it dumped into. Oh yeah. 00:41:00
Yeah, just so. 00:41:02
OK, awesome. 00:41:04
Any other comments? 00:41:06
OK, alrighty. 00:41:08
I will entertain an emotion. 00:41:11
Now. 00:41:13
I'll do it. I move to close the public hearing. 00:41:16
Awesome. Umm. 00:41:20
At exactly 638. 00:41:21
Perfect. 00:41:24
Do I have a second? 00:41:25
2nd but I think it's 632. 00:41:27
Oh, sorry. 00:41:30
Yeah. 00:41:32
Thank you for that clarification. All righty, all in favor. 00:41:34
Aye. Motion passes at 632. OK. 00:41:37
All right, let's umm. 00:41:42
I'll do it. We'll do a motion now on the. 00:41:45
Development agreements. 00:41:48
Can I get a motion on those? 00:41:52
I think we should separate them out, so I moved to approve and amend the development agreement of. 00:41:53
The Internet. Eminem Mountain Health at 7.2 as. 00:42:00
Presented. 00:42:04
OK, can I get a second for that? 00:42:06
2nd. 00:42:08
All in favor. 00:42:09
Aye, aye. 00:42:10
OK, motion passes, so IHC is through. 00:42:11
And now for 7.1. 00:42:14
I move to approve. 00:42:21
The forged development agreement as presented. 00:42:23
Try to 2nd on that. 00:42:27
I'll second. 00:42:29
All in favor. 00:42:30
Aye. 00:42:32
Any opposed? 00:42:33
All right, Jacob Wood comes down to you, brother. Where you at? 00:42:35
No, he came back, just he came back just to the boat. 00:42:40
All right. Would it be helpful? 00:42:44
Yes. 00:42:47
I know we're kind of in the middle of actually when we. 00:42:49
Take a box first. 00:42:52
Aye. 00:42:54
Motion. 00:42:57
Passes OK. 00:42:58
Awesome. Umm. 00:43:01
All righty, let's jump to the consent items. 00:43:01
Is there anything on these consent items that? 00:43:08
We need to pull off and put in the business items. 00:43:11
Mayor Jacob Wood. 00:43:14
Sure. Yeah, I'd like to make a motion to 8 points. 00:43:18
Takes a place to under business item as 10.4. 00:43:22
OK, so Jacob's word. 00:43:25
Has a motion to 8.6 down to. 00:43:29
Take it off. 00:43:37
OK. Anything else? 00:43:38
Public safety impact. 00:43:43
Resolutions are made. 00:43:44
That one's a good one. 00:43:47
Yeah, I think I'm good with the. 00:43:49
I'm Yep, I'm good with all of them too. 00:43:52
Alrighty, can I get a motion? 00:43:54
I move that we approve consent items 8. 00:43:56
Got one through 8.5. 00:43:58
Has listed. 00:44:01
OK, do I have a second? 00:44:02
Second, OK. 00:44:03
Remembering that some of those are resolutions the Bible. 00:44:05
OK, so let's do. 00:44:08
Let's just do 8.1 so which ones are not the resolution so we can do 8.1 and 8.2. 00:44:13
They put one they want to. 00:44:19
Yeah, there's a resolution. So let's let's. 00:44:20
Let's do April. Let's hold on 8.18.2. 00:44:22
All in favor. 00:44:25
Aye aye. Any opposed? 00:44:26
OK. All right. 00:44:28
Let's do 8.3 by roll call. Start with Ezra. 00:44:30
Aye, David, aye. 00:44:33
Jacob Wood. 00:44:35
Aye, Jake Holdaway, Aye. 00:44:37
Parker, hi. 00:44:39
Resolution passes. 00:44:41
OK, let's jump onto 8.4 by roll call. Let's start here. My say what it is just so that they know sure. 00:44:43
So 8.3 the one we just passed was the municipal Wastewater Planning program survey that we presented last week. 00:44:50
8.4 is the. 00:44:57
Redevelopment Agency audit agreement to extend the RDA or the audit. 00:44:59
Of the idea. 00:45:03
Which was discussed last week as well. 00:45:04
Already so 8.3 passes some to 8.4. Roll call Parker. 00:45:07
Hi, Jake. Hi. 00:45:11
Jacob Wood. 00:45:13
David Lurie, Aye. 00:45:16
And Ezra? 00:45:18
Aye, OK. 00:45:19
That resolution. 00:45:20
Passes 8 point. 00:45:21
4 now. 00:45:24
We're struggling with number 8.5 safety impact. 00:45:29
The last couple meetings about implementing a public safety impact fee so that we could collect funds for our law enforcement and 00:45:35
fire department with new development. 00:45:39
OK, roll call. We'll start with Ezra at this time. 00:45:45
Aye, David, aye. 00:45:48
Jake Judge. 00:45:49
Jacob Wood. 00:45:51
Jake Holdaway, hi. 00:45:52
And Parker, hi. 00:45:54
All right, passes. 00:45:56
OK, let's get to the. 00:45:57
We're going to jump down to the Planning Commission. 00:46:00
Let's do the main event. 00:46:03
Can we do the main event? Are we ready to go? OK, we will move the Planning Commission. 00:46:04
To the end. 00:46:09
And let's jump right into. 00:46:10
Public comments. 00:46:13
And I'm sure everyone wants to talk about our travel policy. 00:46:16
We're looking at. 00:46:21
.6 is that. 00:46:23
To be discussed, yes. 00:46:24
We're going to do that down. 00:46:26
The lower comments, yeah. 00:46:28
So let's jump to public comments. 00:46:31
I have. 00:46:34
Do we have more people? I have the public comments right here. 00:46:36
The list. 00:46:40
Let's do this. I will just write down the list and if you. 00:46:42
If you wanted to give a public comment and you're not on the list, this is something we should start doing this year. 00:46:44
Did everyone who wants to? 00:46:49
Publicly comment. I guess that's how you say it. 00:46:51
Did you sign the list? 00:46:53
I'll just go through it and if you're you want to say something you're not here, just raise your hand. 00:46:56
OK, so. 00:47:00
Tim Blackburn. 00:47:02
Fire away. 00:47:02
Yes, let's do what's What's a good time limit? How many you have on the? 00:47:05
12345. 00:47:11
15-2 minutes? What are two minutes? 00:47:13
Well, and if you're going to allow public comment during the. 00:47:18
Tim Blackburn, Sleepy Ridge. 00:47:22
If you're going to allow public comment at all during the time we talk about Arch, I can reserve my time until then. 00:47:23
Let's hear it now. 00:47:31
Here now OK. 00:47:32
I just want to say thank you to the members of the City Council. 00:47:34
For what we have felt to be an increase. 00:47:39
Of support and understanding. 00:47:42
About the importance of trying to. 00:47:44
Preserve and protect the heritage of Vineyard. 00:47:47
I have felt immensely. 00:47:51
Pleased with what I have seen. 00:47:55
In terms of. 00:47:58
A refreshing. 00:48:00
Of support. 00:48:02
From the council and the mayor. 00:48:03
Also from the city staff. 00:48:06
And we look forward to their report here shortly. 00:48:08
About possible funding. 00:48:12
For Heritage. 00:48:13
Foundation in the future over this next year. 00:48:16
But. 00:48:20
It's been a it's been a struggle for us to try to be visible. 00:48:21
And to try to make an impact in our community. 00:48:25
The Heritage Foundation. 00:48:28
And I just wanted to say thank you to all of you who asked questions. 00:48:30
And who gives a? 00:48:35
Support and who say. 00:48:36
No, let's move forward with these kinds of ideas. And I've seen that from. 00:48:38
The staff most recently as well. So thank you. 00:48:42
Thank you, did I use my 2 minutes? 00:48:44
You we are good way to go, Tim. 00:48:47
Transferable nonsense. Verbal 2 minutes. 00:48:52
OK, All right. Emily Larson with. 00:48:56
Bridgeport, come on down. 00:48:59
Thank you for coming. Appreciate it. Can you say north-south central Bridgeport? I don't even know what I am on 410 E, You're not 00:49:03
Christopher Columbus. 00:49:07
I know, I don't know. I know my address mountainside. 00:49:13
Don't start my 2 minutes yet. I need all my 2 minutes. Just kidding. Saint George St. 00:49:16
So my name is Emily Larson. I'm from Bridgeport. You've seen me before. Parking. 00:49:21
I had two other friends here from my neighborhood that they had to leave because of babysitters so. 00:49:26
There's them and then I'm going to actually. 00:49:31
For part of my time read this from. 00:49:33
Another neighbor that couldn't be here tonight so I'm reading her e-mail. 00:49:35
Good evening Mayor Stratton and council members. My name is Brittany Hanson and I am part of the Bridgeport neighborhood. Thank 00:49:39
you for your time and your continued efforts to listen to. 00:49:43
And represent our community. I'm speaking in support of the proposed parking permit plan for my neighborhood, not as a completely 00:49:47
comprehensive solution. 00:49:51
But as an important and necessary step. 00:49:55
Towards safer, more functional streets. 00:49:57
Right now, many of our roads are simply not safe. 00:49:59
Cars are parked bumper to bumper, making it difficult to see children, dangerous to drive through and in some cases so congested 00:50:02
that emergency vehicles would struggle to get access. 00:50:07
That alone should give us pause. 00:50:11
There are also everyday impacts that add up quickly. Garbage and recycling being skipped because trucks can't reach the cans. 00:50:14
And residents being blocked in or delayed just trying to leave their own driveways. We understand that this connects to a broader 00:50:20
over occupancy challenges. 00:50:24
But this proposal is a practical step that directly involves involves safely and and. 00:50:28
In their liable livability right now. 00:50:35
At the February 7th council meeting, Councilman Holdaway stated that home evictions quote could be seen as kindness. End Quote. 00:50:39
I'd suggest that in some circumstances, towing, when used thoughtfully and sparingly, could reflect the same principle when it 00:50:44
helps resource safety, access and order. 00:50:49
And order for the broader community. That said, no one is asking for unchecked or aggressive enforcement. The goal is balanced. 00:50:55
This plan does that by protecting homeowners and lawful renters while still creating structure and accountability. At the end of 00:51:01
the day, this is about safety, accessibility and preserving a sense of community. 00:51:07
I appreciate the consideration you're giving this issue and encourage you to move this plan forward. Thank you. 00:51:12
I agree with everything that she said and I want to keep our community great. 00:51:18
Look at that. Thank you. Let's go. 00:51:23
You know. 00:51:27
The funny thing is where to go when you stood up. I started it and I totally forgot that Councilman Holder went. 00:51:29
Well. 00:51:35
You're awesome. Love it. OK, we. 00:51:38
Donna Blake with Bridgeport. 00:51:41
Come on down. 00:51:43
North southeast of US. 00:51:44
West, Hi, I am Dana Blake. Oh, sorry, Dana. 00:51:47
All good. I'm in the northeast corner of Bridgeport. 00:51:52
So we. 00:51:58
We have a big issue with over occupancy in our neighborhood as well as Lechevenon there's. 00:52:00
So many cars parked on the road that it is becoming unsafe. Our children cannot ride their bikes because they might not be able to 00:52:06
cross the street safely. 00:52:10
There's umm. 00:52:14
It's really getting to the point where if you're driving at the same time as someone coming the opposite direction, there's 00:52:17
nowhere for you to pull around each other. 00:52:20
It's just becoming unsafe all around and unfortunately some of the. 00:52:25
Owners of the. 00:52:29
Over occupied units have even. 00:52:31
Taking steps to try and bully families out. 00:52:34
For requesting things like not parking in front of their driveways or respecting quiet hours. 00:52:38
And we don't appreciate that as families. 00:52:44
And. 00:52:48
You know, we don't want to push. 00:52:50
This issue onto the renters who came in good faith. 00:52:52
But we really need to restore safety to our neighborhoods. It has become. 00:52:55
A point, like they said, where it's affecting every aspect, it's affecting trash, it's affecting our children, it's affecting 00:52:59
safety, it's affecting driving. 00:53:02
And we so appreciate you, Mayor, and especially Ezra, who's worked a lot with our neighborhood. 00:53:08
And all of you for being willing to hear us on this and I know that there. 00:53:13
Are people who had to leave because. 00:53:17
Because public comment was pushed back, but we appreciate you hearing us. 00:53:20
I also wanted to bring forward one thing. 00:53:24
That I've been seeing which is. 00:53:27
Concerning to me, which is just a tendency to. 00:53:30
Of a few of the council members. 00:53:33
To. 00:53:35
Speak in an inflammatory way on social media and. 00:53:36
We as citizens. 00:53:41
Would really appreciate a more unified approach of speaking respectfully to and about. 00:53:42
Your fellow council members? 00:53:48
And, umm. 00:53:50
Yes, we would really appreciate. 00:53:52
By hearing us on our issues and. 00:53:54
Being respectful of each other even though you all have different. 00:53:57
Agendas. Thank you. 00:54:00
Thank you. 00:54:01
Awesome. Can I? 00:54:02
Can I ask a general question? 00:54:05
As people come up. 00:54:07
Sure. 00:54:09
A couple weeks ago I mentioned in a council meeting I had drove through Bridgeport Lemonade and I had. 00:54:10
Seen and documented a lot of the. 00:54:14
Issues. I counted 5 stop signs that were parked. 00:54:17
With cars parked right up to the line. 00:54:20
Fire hydrants that were blocked. Red curbs with cars on them. 00:54:23
I had reached out to Chief Deputy Holden. 00:54:26
With our local Sheriff's Department. 00:54:29
And he had. 00:54:31
Recent essentially his patrol cars out there and he said that they had wrote 12 tickets I think. 00:54:33
That day or that night? 00:54:38
Have you? When you come up, would you just let me know? Have you seen any? 00:54:40
Improvements with. 00:54:44
That, uh. 00:54:45
OK, OK. 00:54:46
Alrighty, we've got. 00:54:49
John Kidd. 00:54:51
Do you want us all just raise our hands? We appreciate that, they're saying yeah. 00:54:53
So I can go first too. I can read my. 00:54:58
Yeah. 00:55:03
My name is John Kidd and I live in the Maples. 00:55:08
So parking. 00:55:10
Is a tricky topic to address. 00:55:11
We appreciate the freedom that we are blessed with, even down to the freedom of movement. 00:55:13
That granted by our cars. 00:55:17
And we would like to be able to park those cars where we wish particularly. 00:55:19
In our own neighborhoods. 00:55:22
But what happens when one individual's exercise of that? 00:55:24
Freedom begins to impose a cost on others. A large number of vehicles that are parked on a street can impose direct and indirect 00:55:27
costs for neighbors. 00:55:31
I for one appreciate a scenario where these costs are internalized by those causing the imposition. 00:55:36
Of these costs. 00:55:41
If you are able to fit all of your vehicles in your driveway. 00:55:42
That's fantastic. 00:55:44
But when your plethora of vehicles make it so that I am unable to have guests park within 500 feet. 00:55:45
Of my home when I am unable to back my moving truck into my own driveway when I moved in four years ago. 00:55:51
Or when I worry about my children being hit due to a lack of visibility. 00:55:58
Then you have imposed a cost on someone other. 00:56:02
Than yourself. 00:56:04
I've heard some say that we need to be good neighbors and I fully agree. 00:56:06
But in some cases, individual efforts are not enough to resolve the issue. 00:56:09
Being a good neighbor should not require accepting the ongoing negative impacts. 00:56:13
Finally, I encourage the Council to consider this issue. 00:56:18
Promptly. Any change in policy will likely take time to implement. 00:56:21
Rather than simply shutting this down without full information, let's get this information out so that we can address the problems 00:56:24
we see in a timely manner. 00:56:28
The newest portion of the Maples has welcomed many new families and for those that are moving in now or maybe in the near future, 00:56:33
I wish them to know the policy as soon as possible. 00:56:37
Rather than finding out. 00:56:41
And not wanting to live there in six months. 00:56:43
Additionally, addressing this before the influx of college students that the salt the fall semester would bring would help prevent 00:56:46
further strain on neighborhood parking. 00:56:50
I want to be a good neighbor. 00:56:55
And I feel part of that is helping my neighbors be comfortable with policies in their neighborhood. 00:56:56
I appreciate the work that has been done with the parking permit policy and I would like to see this. 00:57:01
Considered for the Naples area as well. 00:57:06
Thank you. 00:57:08
Thank you, John. 00:57:09
And you're nailing it. 00:57:11
OK, let me find out person. 00:57:13
There's a support or against The Who lives in Maples besides John. 00:57:15
Maples OK. 00:57:21
And there was a lot of help with do we like John's idea? Do we support John? 00:57:23
Way to go, John. 00:57:29
Yeah, John, OK. 00:57:30
All righty. So that wasn't. 00:57:32
That was a good point too about you guys are getting a bunch of homes coming in. 00:57:34
And we need to. 00:57:37
Something to. 00:57:38
With with all basin apartments. 00:57:39
OK. All right. 00:57:41
OK. All right. Next up, we've got Stephanie. 00:57:45
So Stephanie had to leave, but she gave me her comment she was going to read. 00:57:49
Round 2. Come on up, John. 00:57:54
She maples again. She maples as well. I would I would talk in a higher voice, but that feels offensive. 00:57:58
Are you in favor of or against the parking permit post? 00:58:04
Are you in favor of the favor? 00:58:06
So sorry. 00:58:09
Good evening. My name is Stephanie. 00:58:10
And I live in the Maples neighborhood. 00:58:13
I'm here to ask the council to consider a parking pass program. As our neighborhood continues to grow and new homes are built, we 00:58:15
are seeing more and more street parking, often with multiple adults living in one home, which leads to several cars parked along 00:58:19
the road. 00:58:23
While we understand that housing needs are changing, the amount of street parking is making our roads feel crowded and less safe. 00:58:28
When cars line both sides of the streets, it becomes hard to see around corners. 00:58:34
And that makes it dangerous for children who are walking. 00:58:38
Riding bikes or using scooters? 00:58:41
It also makes the neighborhood look overcrowded and less cared for. 00:58:43
A parking pass program would help keep our streets safer and more orderly as the Naples continues to expand. 00:58:47
Thank you for your time and consideration. 00:58:52
Awesome. Thank you. 00:58:54
All righty, we got Dave Height. 00:58:56
All right. Thank you all. 00:59:05
Appreciate it. 00:59:06
Mayor, Council people. 00:59:07
Feel kind of like this is a spelling bee here. 00:59:10
Which is where you live here. Bad memories for me so. 00:59:13
Days from the Naples from the Naples, Dave Height. 00:59:17
I'm going to come at this just a tad different. 00:59:21
But yeah, I'm here on behalf of many of our residents. 00:59:24
Not all of them. 00:59:27
But a lot of them. 00:59:28
Especially as we're feeling the added pressure of the 75 plus units all with Adus. 00:59:30
I want to go on record supporting the Parking Pass initiative because it makes our streets safer. Safety is the only reason that 00:59:36
matters. 00:59:39
And I'll leave it at that. 00:59:43
I would like to veer a little and discuss more why it is important to implement now versus continuing to hash it out. 00:59:45
Again. 00:59:52
Respect what you guys do. 00:59:54
Especially when you add emotions and human. 00:59:55
Aspect to it. 00:59:58
Super hard. 00:59:59
That being said. 01:00:00
I've been part of high level collegiate programs that have consistently completed for national championships as a player and as a 01:00:02
coach for nearly 20 years. 01:00:06
I share that because I know what it takes for coaches and teams to work together. 01:00:10
And toward a common. 01:00:14
Goal Two things I've learned that apply directly to tonight. First, what we accept is what we can't expect. 01:00:15
We haven't enforced consistently for five years. If nothing changes, nothing changes. 01:00:22
After a tough loss, the worst feeling was walking back into the same problems. 01:00:27
The best feeling was getting back in the gym, putting the plan into action and seeing results. 01:00:31
I'm ready for that. 01:00:36
We're past the point of talking. Let's implement. 01:00:37
Then refined. 01:00:39
2nd be proactive, not reactive. 01:00:41
Some neighborhoods are already in the crisis mode but can become better. 01:00:44
Others, like the Maple, still have a window. 01:00:47
Proactive action saves money, saves time and spares real heartache. 01:00:49
And heartache that come. 01:00:53
That can't come in many forms. It brings me back to safety. 01:00:55
Waiting always comes at a cost more in dollars and resources. 01:00:58
And a community team trust. 01:01:02
We love the city. 01:01:04
Let's move forward. 01:01:05
With action. Thank you. 01:01:07
Thank you. 01:01:09
David, can I ask, have you heard of Operation Neighborhood Shield? 01:01:10
No. OK. Thank you. 01:01:14
Awesome. 01:01:17
All righty. 01:01:18
From Bridgeport. 01:01:19
OK. 01:01:22
Sure. 01:01:23
Now I feel bad I moved the public comments later. 01:01:26
Bridgeport I actually live across the street from Allie and she is the one who brought this all attention to my. 01:01:29
My I'm Aubrey. 01:01:35
Just really quickly we've been. 01:01:39
Bridgeport since 2019. Homes across the street from us weren't even built when we moved in. 01:01:41
And since then, our kids have grown. We have two grown children. They have. 01:01:48
Their own cars on my son has two cars. 01:01:51
We have put an extra. 01:01:54
You know, cement. 01:01:55
Aunt by our driveway. 01:01:57
So we have 5 cars at our home. 01:01:59
But we use our driveway. 01:02:01
And we do over spill onto the street one to. 01:02:03
To cars depending on if we have visitors at our house. 01:02:05
However. 01:02:09
Of the 10. 01:02:10
Homes that are 9 surrounding my home, five of those. 01:02:12
Our rentals non. 01:02:17
Owner occupied multiple. 01:02:19
People. Umm. 01:02:21
So, you know, anywhere between 4:00 to 8:00, people renting the home. 01:02:22
We literally cannot get into our driveway most of the times. 01:02:27
We cannot have family members over. 01:02:31
They have to park blocks away from us. 01:02:33
Every time a home goes up for sale in Bridgeport. 01:02:36
It ends up being a rental property. 01:02:40
I don't remember the last home that went up for Selvik was sold to a single family. 01:02:43
And I have been consistently reporting on the home just to the north of us for five years, not only to the city, but to the age. 01:02:48
Away. 01:02:58
Not anything has been done. I understand it was understaffed. 01:02:58
I understand code enforcement was not happening as it should be. 01:03:03
But at this point we are five years in. Last year we had a home or a car coming around a corner. 01:03:07
The flipped upside down. 01:03:12
Coming around a. 01:03:14
Blind driveway in a single family neighborhood at 2:30 in the afternoon. 01:03:16
I don't know the circumstances of that wreck. 01:03:20
But the fact that it happened in Bridgeport is terrifying to me. 01:03:22
Especially when children were on their way home from school. 01:03:26
It. 01:03:29
Consistently being taken care of. 01:03:30
To answer your previous question, Operation Shield, whatever, I have seen the proposal for that. 01:03:33
I think it's amazing. 01:03:38
But I do think it's going to take a while to implement and get going and at this point. 01:03:39
Bridgeport is past the point of waiting another. 01:03:44
Six months to a year to have something done, it's already. 01:03:47
Five years past having something done. 01:03:51
That's all I have to. 01:03:54
Thank you. Question for you, Can you what's your address? 01:03:55
207 N. 590 E. 01:03:58
590 E. 01:04:01
Yeah, the House of the North of us has been rented up and downstairs for the past five years to individuals. 01:04:03
I have reported it multiple times. They don't use their driveway. 01:04:10
I at first was reaching out to the owner of that home because we knew him. 01:04:15
We knew him for the six months that he was there before he moved out. 01:04:19
And between the yard. 01:04:23
Never being kept up, you know. 01:04:25
The weeds multiple feet high and then every single person not even parking in the driveway or the garage. 01:04:28
They're all over the neighborhood. 01:04:36
Thank you. 01:04:38
Bailey, Bailey, I'm feeling really bad, man. 01:04:41
Movies back, Geez. 01:04:46
OK, is it Hamlet? 01:04:47
Oh hey, man. 01:04:53
Hello. We're good friends now, right? Yeah, you're a buddy. Thanks so much for having. 01:04:54
Taking the time to address this. 01:04:59
Should we give him a pin? He's been here like. 01:05:02
Give this man a pin. I'm trying to wrap the test for the 79. 01:05:04
Ordeal 48 N Roberta. 01:05:11
I'm getting used to saying the right thing for the beginning. 01:05:14
Yeah, I just wanted to come up here and again represent Lechemenant. I know it's difficult for a lot of. 01:05:17
Our neighbors to come up. I wanted to give some updates. 01:05:23
As I've. 01:05:27
Talk to them. I know that there's a lot of. 01:05:28
People enthusiastic about it also some hesitation or some questions. 01:05:30
Obviously, I want the Council members to keep that in mind. 01:05:34
Because I want the whole neighborhood to be. 01:05:37
Informed. 01:05:39
Have been bought in with it. 01:05:41
That being said also. 01:05:44
Is balancing. 01:05:45
Making something happen also. 01:05:46
Balancing with the time to educate the neighborhood. 01:05:48
So I encourage, obviously the Council members to keep that into consideration. 01:05:51
But like has been said with Bridgeport, I know it's very. 01:05:55
Frustrating because we've seen similar situations where we. 01:05:57
See houses get sold and it goes right to renters. 01:06:00
I dread anytime we see a family move out of our neighborhood because I know renters are going to come in. 01:06:04
That being said, of course there's been times where families do report things and they get bullied by. 01:06:10
Neighbors. We saw one at the Bates. They left because they're. 01:06:15
Getting bullied by. 01:06:18
The Bros at this house beside them, even to the point where he would turn on his diesel truck and let the fumes go into the house. 01:06:20
She told him. 01:06:26
To please not do that affected their air quality. 01:06:28
You'd keep doing it. 01:06:31
Now at the house we have a boat that sits there. This is on the corner of. 01:06:32
Root of Math and Ruth Hugo. 01:06:38
And it the tire is. 01:06:40
Outside of the red. 01:06:42
But the rest of the boat, which is about 25% of that unit. 01:06:43
Sticks out into the red property. 01:06:47
US and a couple of the neighbors have reported it two weeks ago. 01:06:49
No action. 01:06:53
Nothing done so. 01:06:54
Please keep that in mind. 01:06:55
One last thing. 01:06:57
Yeah, keep in mind the comments that are said online. 01:06:59
I know that we all may have different. 01:07:01
Viewpoints but. 01:07:03
Sometimes if we put neighbors against neighbors. 01:07:05
We don't want to do that, so please keep that in mind as well as council members. 01:07:07
Thank you. 01:07:11
Thank you. Thank you. 01:07:12
OK. 01:07:13
Let's do Gary Moore. 01:07:15
Signed in the wrong spot. 01:07:20
All good, brother. 01:07:22
OK. Anybody else? 01:07:24
Yeah, come on down. 01:07:28
Alternate. 01:07:30
My name is Taylor Timothy Lechemena, Rue de Paris. 01:07:33
I'm also known as the speed limit guy. Got the speed. 01:07:36
Yay. But now obviously the problem we're dealing with is over occupancy. You've already heard all the spills. 01:07:39
One of the things, though that has not been mentioned that's happening as well, is we have a lot of people. 01:07:45
Parking from the apartments. 01:07:50
And they're parking on the cheminah. 01:07:52
Having their homie pick them up and then they're driving back to the apartments and then they're leaving. 01:07:53
Yes. 01:07:58
Yes. 01:07:59
So that is something. 01:08:00
Yes. Umm. 01:08:01
All right, I was at the park the other day. 01:08:02
Kid jumped the fence, ran across the train tracks, jumped the fence and. 01:08:05
Went to his car. This part in the Seminole education. 01:08:10
It is dedication. 01:08:12
But that's just some other. 01:08:14
Things they take into consideration with this, I support it. 01:08:15
At the parking situation. 01:08:19
Thank you. 01:08:21
All right, got some more. 01:08:21
Let's go. Yes, Sir, right here. 01:08:24
Come on down and then. 01:08:27
We'll go here, and then here, and then here. 01:08:28
Kind of deal you here. 01:08:31
Great. Thank you. Aye. 01:08:32
Ryan Francis from the Garden No S. 01:08:34
I spoke to you guys two weeks ago at the last meeting, but. 01:08:38
I just wanted to give you kind of an update. 01:08:41
I went around my neighborhood and handed out March Madness brackets, something I do because I love my community and we do it. It's 01:08:43
a fun thing. 01:08:46
But I also got signatures from about 45 families, but I don't. 01:08:49
That really matters, but. 01:08:54
I didn't want it to be my decision, but I just want to give you some of the feedback from people that I talked to and what the 01:08:55
things that they said. But it really kind of echoes that everybody else said, just that there's so many. 01:09:00
Homes that are being illegally rented. 01:09:05
And. 01:09:07
I really appreciate Jacob Wood. 01:09:08
Bring you about all this light like our neighbors had the most infractions I think was 17 in the garden of. 01:09:09
At least reported infractions. 01:09:15
So if that makes us like Karen's or something, that's fine. But you know. 01:09:17
But I. 01:09:21
Sorry if your name Karen, I apologize them. 01:09:24
But I. 01:09:26
But I just wanted to say. 01:09:27
You know, you know. 01:09:29
I appreciate that as being brought up because we've been reporting things and having problems for, you know. 01:09:30
Five years we lived here for 10. 01:09:35
And literally we report things, they're breaking the rules. And what's been happening is they say, well, we're not actually 01:09:37
breaking the rules. And then they come back to us and say, well, they said they're not doing it. So there's not really any teeth 01:09:41
in it. 01:09:45
So I appreciate what Ezra is doing to this. 01:09:49
Parking program I think will give it some teeth. 01:09:51
Some kind of something that will actually. 01:09:53
Give us a tool to try to deter these people from breaking the rules on renting. 01:09:55
But some of the other concerns people mentioned we. 01:10:01
And there's a little mailbox area and it is packed. 01:10:04
I know, Greg Mortenson said. He sent you a picture of it. 01:10:07
It that people stated they don't think a fire truck could get through there, and I think they're right. 01:10:11
We have a disabled girl in a neighborhood who frequently tries to get onto her school bus. 01:10:17
And they can't get to the house because there's so much cars parked and the bus. 01:10:20
Has to like wait and they have to go wheel her down. 01:10:24
Things like this shouldn't happen. 01:10:26
We just want a place to live and I appreciate all the work that you're doing to do that. So thank you very much and I. 01:10:28
Hope that we. 01:10:33
Go forward. Thank you. Thank you. 01:10:34
Thanks, Ryan. 01:10:36
Hi Mark Osteobolechemy not. 01:10:40
Great looking flannel by the way. 01:10:42
Yeah. Thank you. 01:10:44
Appreciate that umm uh. 01:10:45
So maybe a different approach. I agree with what everybody said in the air. It seems like there's a couple of concerns. 01:10:47
About enforcing parking. 01:10:53
And I wanted to just maybe reiterate. 01:10:55
Maybe appease some of the doubts, one of which. 01:10:57
I remember hearing somebody saying like. 01:11:01
You know, if I forget my past. 01:11:03
And I get some tow truck over here at night and I'm gone and my morning is is shot. 01:11:05
You know, it seems like the solution to that is some kind of app. 01:11:10
Base thing where you're. 01:11:14
License plate is registered. 01:11:16
And I which I think is a great idea. So just just to maybe appease some of the concerns about this and get more people on board 01:11:18
with it. 01:11:21
It seems like. 01:11:25
There are some great ideas out there and I would just reiterate to make that super clear. 01:11:27
Super simple. 01:11:32
And enforce it. 01:11:33
Absolutely Velvet Hammer style. 01:11:35
Right. And then the other question I had on this whole thing is what does the? 01:11:37
Fire department. Has the fire department said anything about this? Do they have any input? 01:11:41
That's my question. 01:11:45
Did he leave? 01:11:47
Sanderson Lee. He was. He was here. 01:11:50
Just barely left. 01:11:54
But yes, he is concerned about. 01:11:56
The. 01:11:58
The ability to drive a fire truck into one of these neighborhoods. 01:11:59
And garbage trucks. 01:12:03
He said that on his way. 01:12:05
Charlie, do you want to go again? 01:12:07
Come on down, man. 01:12:08
Who's next? Or yeah? 01:12:09
Let's umm yes please. 01:12:11
No. 01:12:12
It's fine mixing it up a little bit. 01:12:17
It's been so, it's been so positive, so here. 01:12:23
My name is Christine Jeffs and I am here representing both the Library Board and the Friends of the Library Board. 01:12:29
I received an e-mail yesterday with a. 01:12:35
Recommendations for the grant distribution. 01:12:37
And I noticed that the library had two numbers listed. 01:12:40
And I'd like to encourage the Council to consider giving the library the higher of the two amounts. 01:12:43
That were in that e-mail. 01:12:48
We will put that money to such good use and we are a public service that services the entire community. 01:12:49
Thank you. 01:12:55
Over the Friends of the Library thing. 01:12:56
No, I think it's. 01:12:58
In fights with the Symphony. 01:12:59
If I'm reading the e-mail correctly. 01:13:01
Because after libraries had two amounts, then after Symphony it had two announcements and I believe the difference. Brian, will 01:13:03
you clarify? 01:13:06
I got this e-mail yesterday so I don't know if there have been updates. 01:13:10
Yes, no, you're you're correct. So the Vineyard library. 01:13:13
That's the one that would potentially have a decrease. Yeah, the. 01:13:17
The friends didn't change, but it was the library that could potentially have a decrease. 01:13:22
Happy to explain more of that. 01:13:27
At that time, unless you want me to do it now. Sounds good, thanks. Thank you. 01:13:29
Round 2. 01:13:35
My name is Tyler Harrelson. I must have put my. 01:13:39
Name on the wrong list. 01:13:41
Briefly, I wasn't here to comment on the parking situation. 01:13:44
It's not a solution that will help them now. 01:13:48
But I do think this is the chickens coming home to roost when? 01:13:50
This development doesn't have any mixed-use, so no one can walk. 01:13:54
To work or anything useful other than other houses? 01:13:57
Doesn't have any. 01:14:00
Useful transit and has pretty minimal. 01:14:01
Biking like the lady before had said they have. 01:14:04
Five cars, I don't know how many in their household that I live in Utah City, I. 01:14:08
Was helping some neighbors, moved in some college kids. 01:14:12
I had five kids and I was like. 01:14:16
Now I'm interested in this stuff. How many cars do you have? And they said 2. 01:14:18
Three of them take. 01:14:21
Front runner to school and. 01:14:22
The other two have jobs. 01:14:25
They need to take a car and and can't take the front runner so. 01:14:27
I think that when you're. 01:14:30
Considering new developments, having more. 01:14:32
Abilities for transportation is a way to solve your parking problem by. 01:14:34
Not making everybody **** car. 01:14:38
I my own comments. 01:14:40
I talked to you last time about 400 S in the safety proposal there. 01:14:44
I started a petition that as of this morning has 115. 01:14:48
Signatures. Umm. 01:14:52
Basically I wanted to clarify you guys all got an e-mail from Jake summarizing some things that we had talked about some ideas 01:14:54
for. 01:14:57
Great suggestions for for a. 01:15:02
Both the future development and the current that I wanted to clarify that my proposal, my petition is about. 01:15:04
More about the process than. 01:15:10
Necessarily any specific? 01:15:12
Like configuration of of anything like that. 01:15:14
Something that really frustrates me is. 01:15:18
And this is how Orem tends to do things. They take a long time to do a bunch of studies and have a bunch of arguments about these 01:15:21
different things. 01:15:24
Our proposal is essentially that. 01:15:28
Yeah, your staff come up with something that would be reasonable to. 01:15:30
To set up some cones and bollards and that sort of thing right now, implement it and then see how it works. 01:15:33
Right. Staff needs to review it so it's safe enough that it's not going to get anyone hurt in the interim, but. 01:15:39
Having that iterative process, I think would be better than. 01:15:44
Than having a long deliberation and then going. 01:15:47
Sure. Thank you. 01:15:50
Can you say it's? 01:15:51
Really frustrating to get some say. 01:15:52
We want you to change something, but we don't tell. Don't tell us how. 01:15:54
Don't say what you want. 01:15:57
And then we lay something out. It's a new. Those are new. 01:15:59
Clients out there and you're upset with those, but you won't tell us what's wrong with. 01:16:02
So, umm. 01:16:05
People more specific about your complaint and I think you'll get a better. 01:16:06
Response. Sure, and I'm happy to talk with. 01:16:09
Talk with you if you'd like, and talk with anybody that. 01:16:12
That would be useful. 01:16:14
Thank you. Awesome. Thank you, Sir. 01:16:15
OK. Anybody else? 01:16:17
All right, back to the positive conversation. 01:16:19
Hi, my name is Brandon Peterson. I also live in the gardens. 01:16:24
Thank you for this opportunity to speak. 01:16:27
I've been a Vineyard resident for 10 years. I'm actively involved in the community in multiple aspects. 01:16:29
And I have many great neighbors that are. 01:16:35
As well. 01:16:37
We live right next to the princesses. 01:16:38
But we are actively discussing leaving Vineyard. 01:16:41
Right, we bought single family homes for a reason. 01:16:44
And we pay property tax. 01:16:48
Very high property tax. 01:16:49
For single family homes. 01:16:51
And right now the problem that I feel is precedent. 01:16:53
Right. 01:16:56
How? 01:16:57
Really enforce. 01:16:58
Was if we pick and choose what laws we're enforcing. 01:17:00
It's creating tremendous safety dangers we've talked about. 01:17:03
Started in multiple. 01:17:07
Children in Vineyard have died. 01:17:08
Being hit by cars. 01:17:10
And many more that could happen. 01:17:11
And so. 01:17:13
As good families are fed up and leaving Vineyard. 01:17:14
I would just extremely caution this group. 01:17:18
Because it will happen more. 01:17:20
And uh. 01:17:22
We know that the pattern will be that they will be replaced with rentals. 01:17:23
There's already. 01:17:27
High amount of high occupancy. 01:17:28
High occupancy housing options in Vineyard. 01:17:30
And I think that that needs to be the encouraged drought for people that need that for economic reasons. But. 01:17:34
It's quite unfair to the citizens to. 01:17:39
Continue this pattern of what's been happening in spite of us reporting things and it's. 01:17:43
It's extremely frustrating. 01:17:48
And discouraging, honestly and so. 01:17:50
I'm definitely not. 01:17:54
My with 10 and I know my neighbors are as well and I hope that we can find a. 01:17:54
Swift and. 01:17:58
Realistic. 01:18:00
Resolution to these problems because they're only going to get worse. 01:18:01
So thank you. 01:18:04
Thank you. 01:18:06
OK, all righty. 01:18:10
Anybody else? 01:18:11
Taryn Cornelius. Come on down, Karen. 01:18:13
Karen Cornelius. 01:18:21
And first of all. 01:18:23
I feel for everyone of you. 01:18:25
That are struggling with parking. 01:18:26
Especially those of you that have young children that. 01:18:29
Are in danger. 01:18:31
When they're trying to play. 01:18:33
And they're called the sacker in their neighborhood. 01:18:35
I on the other hand, I live in paradise in the villas. 01:18:37
Because, uh. 01:18:41
We don't have any parking problems. 01:18:41
But one thing that I have not heard addressed. 01:18:44
Is what is this over occupancy? 01:18:46
Problem we're going to do to our property values. 01:18:49
That is frightening. 01:18:52
Our taxes are higher than anybody elses and I think we're going to watch our property taxes. 01:18:55
Think so rather than a parking permit or anything that's going to put a Band-Aid on. If you want to do that for a minute, that's 01:19:00
OK. 01:19:04
But we have got to address. 01:19:08
The root of the problem. 01:19:10
And the root of the problem is over occupancy. 01:19:11
And somehow we have got to put some legal minds together. 01:19:15
And figure out what we can do. 01:19:19
So that those of us that have invested. 01:19:21
Here, to live here and to enjoy being here. 01:19:24
Are not sold out. 01:19:27
To all of these investors. 01:19:29
Thanks. Awesome. 01:19:31
Are you ******* yeah. ****** me off. 01:19:35
Thank you, Karen. 01:19:38
All right. Do we have one more? All right. 01:19:40
Come on down. 01:19:43
Yeah, and we got some more. 01:19:45
All right. Just one more. OK. 01:19:46
Nicole Haslington, LA Shamanite. 01:19:49
I echo everything. I think everything's been said really well, but. 01:19:51
Last night we were talking to some neighbors and there was a lot of discussion. 01:19:55
Around just like a lot of. 01:19:59
Extreme like sensationalized comments going around. 01:20:01
From. 01:20:06
Some neighbors who don't fully understand. 01:20:08
The proposal and there's a group chat, there's a Facebook group and and those that have read on it after being informed about it 01:20:10
all came back and said. 01:20:15
This seems really fair and I agree. 01:20:20
With what this is and so I just want to caution that I think the people. 01:20:22
Those that that are hearing about it through the Grapevine like there was a comment about. 01:20:26
Sneaky meetings going on with the neighborhood. 01:20:31
And my husband is actively out. I almost can't go on a walk with him at night because there's no stopping him from. 01:20:35
Talking to every neighbor, he sees a knocking on doors to notify them. 01:20:42
About this and I I just want there to be those, you know, those extreme comments that are against it to not be taken. 01:20:46
In a way that. 01:20:54
It's just because they don't know. I feel like they're not informed about what is being discussed. 01:20:54
And I think those. 01:21:00
There's a reason that sensationalized news comments. 01:21:01
Make the headlines right because it gets people to buy in because it's scary. 01:21:05
And we do want our neighborhood to be a community like. 01:21:09
Everything that's been said, we bought a single family home because we want to live there and we are surrounded by. 01:21:12
Neighbors. One of our neighbors. 01:21:18
Around the house, that is. 01:21:22
Filled with. 01:21:24
Renters so that it's basically like we're living next to a slumlord because there is no. 01:21:25
Taking care of the property, the trash cans are never taken out, the yard isn't cared for and it's just it's it's a slumlord home 01:21:30
and that's what not what we wanted to live in Vineyard for. 01:21:35
Thank you. Awesome. 01:21:41
Come on down. 01:21:44
Hi, I'm twin at Norton, sorry I'm late to the party, just got back from the kids game. 01:21:51
I was the first new build in Vineyard. 01:21:59
I built in 2013. 01:22:02
Literally the only house. 01:22:04
Out here. 01:22:05
I came over from the last neighborhood in Orem. 01:22:07
For the truck. 01:22:09
Or the trailer to get posted because I was excited for new development and growth and. 01:22:11
I can confidently say in the last past five years, it's been chaos and. 01:22:16
Just with. 01:22:23
The housing crisis and. 01:22:25
Where we're at economically like. 01:22:27
The way that. 01:22:30
I came to understand how Vineyard was designed was for single family homes. 01:22:33
Which is great. 01:22:37
But with. 01:22:38
How things are changing. The design no longer. 01:22:39
Holds its purpose. 01:22:41
It's exceeded its. 01:22:43
Broken. It doesn't serve for. 01:22:45
A single rental community. 01:22:48
And. 01:22:51
I'm not out. 01:22:52
I I will. 01:22:54
Put my name out there. I started the Vineyard neighborhood group. 01:22:55
And I haven't been great in keeping it. 01:22:58
Posted or trying to keep people involved and so I I started. 01:23:01
Just the other night like just trying to understand perspectives of. 01:23:05
Different issues. 01:23:09
People on Rue de Borda, their issues are heavier than mine on Rudy Math. 01:23:10
But yes, we all have a traffic problem, and we all. 01:23:14
Even the groups that I've been. 01:23:17
Recently added to. 01:23:18
We all. 01:23:20
Have the same goal and the same concerns, but they're just. 01:23:21
At different levels and so. 01:23:24
My thoughts. 01:23:29
About it is, it's not a one. 01:23:31
Size fits all like. 01:23:34
Enforce towing and some of the other. 01:23:36
Neighborhoods is definitely needed. I've mowed lawns throughout Vineyard with my sons and I've made great relationships with. 01:23:38
Even singles that. 01:23:45
Have hired us and just getting to know them and where they're at in life. 01:23:46
And I think. 01:23:50
We suffer as a family community in connection with our neighbors. We don't. 01:23:54
Go out of our way to get to know our neighbors. We definitely don't serve our neighbors. 01:23:58
I was raised. 01:24:03
Serve neighbors, elderlies, take out their trash, move their lawns. Like that's what I'm teaching my kids. And that was my hope 01:24:04
when I moved into this neighborhood that we would have. 01:24:08
Good. Solid. 01:24:13
Values and what we want to teach. 01:24:14
Our kids because we want a family community. 01:24:17
But. 01:24:20
As I've kind of. 01:24:22
Talk to neighbors. 01:24:24
In our neighborhood to understand again the frustration. 01:24:26
Parking is an outcome. 01:24:29
To overpopulation of renters, it's an outcome. 01:24:31
If we can. 01:24:34
Have the same. 01:24:35
Or have different. 01:24:36
Restrictions. 01:24:39
As far as like. 01:24:40
You want to rent your house? Great. Rent it to a family. 01:24:41
And I want to know the homeowners and. 01:24:45
Information like I would rather go. 01:24:47
To the homeowner and address issues that I have as a neighbor then have to waste government time and money. 01:24:50
Over just. 01:24:55
Bickering. 01:24:57
And so. 01:24:58
I don't know what the answer is for that, but like short term. 01:25:01
As simple as it sounds. 01:25:05
A lot of people are visual. 01:25:08
Um, if we even just paint. 01:25:12
Parking stalls on the Stinking St. 01:25:14
Two cars fit here. 01:25:16
Sorry, squares don't fit in round holes. Like you don't fit. You don't fit. But it's also not our problem. We're not equipped to 01:25:17
park a bus, an RV, a semi, whatever it is like. 01:25:22
That was never the design, so there. 01:25:27
I guess my hope for the Holy seminar. 01:25:31
Neighborhood. 01:25:34
Is 1 to fill in the gaps of lack of communication. 01:25:36
There are so many apps and platforms where all of these conversations are happening, but there's no source of truth, so it's 01:25:40
always he said, she said. 01:25:44
There's there's gaps, it's broken. I get it. 01:25:48
But it's not, I think. 01:25:51
I don't. I know my intent is not to attack or pin any neighbor against another. 01:25:56
I was raised that when you have issues, you come to the table with solutions. 01:26:03
I've heard a lot of complaints for several years. 01:26:07
But no one wants to come to the table with solutions or they expect. 01:26:10
Somebody able to make the decision for the majority? 01:26:14
I don't think it's all the questions you have. Neighborhoods have their own council where it's like. 01:26:18
Now let's have some designated. 01:26:23
Representation on each St. 01:26:26
You guys talk about who is being rented. You guys approve if they're gonna. 01:26:28
Be part of this neighborhood. 01:26:32
And then bring it to vineyards attention like hey. 01:26:35
This family wants the rent. Great. 01:26:37
Do them registered like. 01:26:39
I want to see more accountability for these homeowners that are outside of the state too. 01:26:41
Yeah, one guy on my. 01:26:47
He lives in California. He owns four different. 01:26:50
Houses on our street like. 01:26:53
But I don't have a contact for him. 01:26:55
That's not fair. But anyway sorry I went overtime for sure but. 01:26:57
I just. 01:27:01
I support Vineyard and I want to help them grow but also. 01:27:03
I feel like there needs to be a lot more conversation before anything's just. 01:27:07
To Boston says it's done so. 01:27:11
Thank you for that. 01:27:14
Appreciate it. Thank you. 01:27:15
OK, all righty, we are going to close public comments. 01:27:16
Does everyone go? They wanted to go. 01:27:21
One more. 01:27:23
All right. 01:27:25
Travis Thompson at the garden. 01:27:30
No's. 01:27:32
I just want to show my support for the the parking initiative. I further support just enforcing Adus. It's ridiculous that we 01:27:36
don't I. 01:27:39
Lived in basement apartments in Orem that the first thing my landlord told me was you have to park off the street. 01:27:44
It is enforced. We care. 01:27:49
And it was great. 01:27:51
A wonderful experience. I think we can. 01:27:52
Force our our. 01:27:54
Owners to do the same thing and there's. 01:27:55
Usually plenty of driveway space that goes unused. It's kind of insane. 01:27:57
But uh. 01:28:01
I just want to say that this is. 01:28:02
The only thing that has ever gotten me to a City Council meeting. 01:28:03
Just for the record, like not a political person registered independent. 01:28:10
Like I vote and that's about it. 01:28:14
This matters because I have kids. 01:28:17
And because they run around all the time. 01:28:20
And luckily I live in the center of the neighborhood. 01:28:23
And I didn't have to deal with this until maybe. 01:28:25
Two years ago. 01:28:28
And now I can barely get my boat. 01:28:29
In and out of my. 01:28:31
RV pad that I paid. 01:28:33
A stupid amount of money to put in. 01:28:35
So that I didn't have to park it on the street. 01:28:37
Because that's the responsibility. 01:28:39
That I bear, and we should hold everyone accountable to that kind of stuff. 01:28:41
And at that. 01:28:44
Politics, yeah. 01:28:45
Awesome. Thanks. 01:28:48
OK, for. 01:28:49
One more. 01:28:51
Jeremy. 01:28:55
Jeremy is Bridgeport. Yeah, I know. 01:28:56
You guys like one more? 01:28:57
I just wanted to share a quick story real quick. 01:29:00
With the families regard. 01:29:03
To them feeling safe. 01:29:04
When I come through my neighborhood in Bridgeport, I make it a point. 01:29:07
To drive. 01:29:09
1015 miles an hour, no faster. 01:29:10
The other day I was coming around the corner and due to the amount of cars parked on the street, I almost took a child's life. 01:29:13
And I can't even imagine what that would be like. 01:29:20
Had the parent not been there. 01:29:24
That child would have been dead. 01:29:27
I came around the corner. There was absolutely no way in our. 01:29:29
To see the child. 01:29:32
They darted out from in between two cars. 01:29:34
There was a mom there that thankfully grabbed the arm and the kid, otherwise I would have killed the child. 01:29:36
So with that I would just really. 01:29:41
I'd like to say just do what you can. 01:29:45
I mean, I know. 01:29:49
I know everybody has an opinion. 01:29:50
Everybody's working hard on this situation. This was handed to you guys by another administration. 01:29:52
Not a lot you can do about it. 01:29:58
But in the meantime. 01:29:59
I really don't wanna. 01:30:01
Good. Yeah, so. 01:30:02
If there's anything you can do, parking passes I think would be great right at first, but. 01:30:05
You know, whatever you guys feel like. Thank you Sir. Thank you for sharing. 01:30:10
That was awesome. 01:30:13
I'll think of another one of those. Anyone else? 01:30:15
Great. OK, we're going to close public comments. 01:30:18
Good, good. OK, awesome. 01:30:21
All righty, so let's. 01:30:24
Talk Council, let's discuss the 8.6 this consent item. 8.6 Neighborhood parking permit program resolution. 01:30:25
26-19. 01:30:32
Any comments from Council? 01:30:38
Sure. 01:30:42
Comments. 01:30:44
I'm just. 01:30:47
I'm very empathetic. 01:30:51
Towards. 01:30:53
The community, like I said, I. 01:30:54
Gone and drove through those neighborhoods a couple times and I see the issues. 01:30:56
And I think it's appalling and I would be scared if I lived in that community too. 01:30:59
I appreciate the way that you guys. 01:31:08
Have shown up. 01:31:10
To come to the City Council meeting and. 01:31:11
Speak very politely. 01:31:13
And and honestly and with your your hearts. 01:31:15
I was very frustrated. 01:31:20
By some of the. 01:31:24
Events that I have learned had transpired. 01:31:25
Between our last. 01:31:28
Discussion on this. 01:31:30
And now? 01:31:32
And to maybe not. 01:31:34
Do a disservice. I I was very prepared with. 01:31:38
Maybe borderline hostile statements? 01:31:43
But I. 01:31:48
I'm frustrated with how this is transpiring overall and I'm frustrated on behalf of the the residents and I'm frustrated. 01:31:49
As a council member. 01:31:56
In a previous City Council meeting, we gave direction when we addressed this last and it was done unanimously. 01:31:58
By the way. 01:32:04
That we needed to. 01:32:06
Hold community meetings. 01:32:08
And we needed to collect more information, we needed to talk to the residents and try to build as much consensus as possible. 01:32:09
To make sure that what we were going to implement worked. 01:32:15
And in the last 24 hours, I learned. 01:32:19
That many residents were told not to meet with. 01:32:21
Councilmember Wood or Councilmember Holdaway. 01:32:24
Who were assigned that responsibility to facilitate those community meetings? 01:32:26
And I think that's done a great disservice to you all. 01:32:30
Because if those meetings had transpired and we would have collected that data and that information. 01:32:33
We could have more informed. 01:32:38
Decisions on how to actually implement this process. 01:32:40
In an effective manner for the community at large. 01:32:43
So I'm frustrated that that. 01:32:46
Was essentially subverting the will of the Council and again it was a unanimous decision so that. 01:32:48
That was frustrating to learn about. 01:32:53
I think. 01:32:56
That. 01:32:58
One, we need to pull the levers that are going to be most immediate to help the residents. 01:32:59
And to me, that most immediate lever we have available is enforcement. 01:33:03
So I would like to with the. 01:33:08
You know, approval and agreement of the Council. 01:33:10
Let's encourage the Sheriff's Department to hit that area hard because if people get ticketed on that street every single day. 01:33:14
If it. 01:33:22
Every single day these people will start parking there because they'll start. 01:33:24
Going to court. 01:33:29
Hey, Alexa, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am. 01:33:31
Please come to the come to Mark. 01:33:34
Name. 01:33:37
Again, Aubrey Nanhart from Bridgeport, and I apologize. I I hear you. 01:33:38
I understand. 01:33:44
But you know what, there has been for a couple of months now a group of citizens really working together to try to see each 01:33:46
other's point of view. I initially was against. 01:33:51
Towing. 01:33:56
Because I have to park on the street. 01:33:57
From our own home. 01:34:00
But I am. 01:34:01
For it at this point and This is why. 01:34:02
We've called the sheriff. 01:34:05
They have increased their. 01:34:06
Done their their patrols in our neighborhood in Bridgeport. I have had people park 3 feet into my driveway. 01:34:08
They've been ticketed. 01:34:17
Guess what? 01:34:18
It happens again the next week. 01:34:19
It happens over and over again. I I just. 01:34:21
Feel like that? 01:34:24
Avenue has been taken. 01:34:26
By the residents because the city has not done anything over the past five years. 01:34:28
That Ave. has been addressed multiple times. 01:34:34
And there has been a lot of work. 01:34:37
Put out with a lot of the residents who are honestly concerned about this. I'm not saying that. 01:34:40
That neighborhood councils. 01:34:46
Don't have value because they do, I think. 01:34:48
Enforcing the code. 01:34:52
That has been needed to be done forever and you guys are behind the game on that and that is not your fault. 01:34:54
But I think that the conjunction of it needs to happen. 01:34:59
It needs to happen in tandem. 01:35:02
And you know what? If these renters are getting in trouble. 01:35:05
They're going to put the force on their landlords because right now. 01:35:08
The tenants in these neighborhoods have been trying to do it for years. 01:35:12
And nothing has succeeded in that if these tenants are the ones getting towed and paying and having to go back to their landlords 01:35:16
and saying you need to do something about this because this isn't right. And now the city is making me pay. 01:35:22
Those landlords are going to fill a lot more pressure. Those landlords are not going to be able to keep trying to get people to 01:35:29
sign leases as families to get past the law. 01:35:34
So according to. 01:35:38
Code enforcement needs to happen. Neighborhood captains is great, but there's a lot of people who got off of work and came here 01:35:39
early, who have spent multiple emails, who have been involved in text talking to neighborhoods. 01:35:45
All before this. 01:35:51
Thank you. You guys know. 01:35:54
So when we tried to schedule a meeting 3 weeks ago, do you guys know why it was denied? 01:35:56
Well, there was, I know that there was a meeting that I got up. 01:36:02
Like why didn't you guys take the meeting to this? We wouldn't be voting on the decision tonight. I'm just trying to figure out 01:36:04
like why the delay in the meeting is actually what's preventing? Why didn't you guys just. 01:36:09
Like we reached out and said, could we hold a meeting and you guys? 01:36:14
The response was. 01:36:18
We don't want to meet. 01:36:20
So do we know why? 01:36:21
I don't know of any about how many Me either. 01:36:23
Gardens that we would have to have a king. 01:36:27
So like you guys, you guys would be, you guys would be implementing the decision now and we're like. 01:36:30
So when we reach out and we're like. 01:36:35
When you said reach out, how did you reach out? Yeah, I didn't know. There's there's a little part with me, so I know that yes, 01:36:37
we're looking to get some people together from. 01:36:41
He said in the meeting in front of all So. 01:36:46
What I spoke about with you guys is we had originally talked about doing a meeting before this. 01:36:50
Nicole and I forgot that we had a major event coming up. 01:36:55
With a lot. 01:36:58
With just friends and everything. 01:36:58
That kept us so I. 01:37:00
Told you guys that. 01:37:02
Primarily Jacob. 01:37:03
That we had something come up, so we did not have the time to get that, but I did let the group know. 01:37:04
So it wasn't that we didn't want to do. We could get this done. 01:37:09
We could get this done in 48 hours. 01:37:12
So let's just walk through the plan. 01:37:14
We want you guys to make your own decision. 01:37:16
We were. We asked you. 01:37:19
To schedule a meeting of your neighborhood. 01:37:21
That we could put a. 01:37:23
Poster out and just say. 01:37:24
We want everyone to come. 01:37:26
In that meeting we would sit down and say what is the consensus around the group so that it would be your decision. 01:37:27
Not ours. 01:37:34
Leaving that meeting, we would then just say. 01:37:35
We're going to go door to door and tell everyone that that's the consensus and we could do it 24 hours later after that. 01:37:37
And nobody took us up on it. 01:37:44
So we were like. 01:37:45
And then and then in that meeting and let me walk you through what that meeting would be because there's a lot of decisions. 01:37:47
OK, and let's take 10 minutes because you guys are really passionate. 01:37:52
We can even have our first meeting right now. 01:37:55
OK. The first, the first decision of that meeting is there's a lot of different types of parking. 01:37:57
So we've already done this in two communities. 01:38:02
There's the. 01:38:05
Judge, jury and executioner. 01:38:06
Meaning that. 01:38:08
We lose our sovereignty as a city, which is it can be done. 01:38:09
You guys want to do that? 01:38:13
And there are locations I've done that. 01:38:15
Both communities that did it. 01:38:17
Walked away from it. 01:38:19
But if it's your decision that wanted to do it. 01:38:21
You could, but we just wanted to make sure that it was. 01:38:24
Your decision to do it and to clarify what that you mean that that you allow the towing company and decide you would be told when 01:38:26
does what that does is it changes it into a into kind of a. 01:38:32
HOA type relationship meaning. 01:38:38
Code enforcement. 01:38:41
Does not do it. 01:38:42
The sheriff does not do it. 01:38:43
We are deputizing the tow truck company that's compensated by. 01:38:45
475 a toe. 01:38:48
And they just go around and they are the judge. 01:38:50
Meaning that our city, our Sarah. 01:38:53
The and that's OK. 01:38:56
And then #2. 01:38:59
Do you want to do a digital path? 01:39:01
Or a paper path. There's pros and cons to both and we and in that meeting we would sit you down through. 01:39:02
OK. And then there's also, do you want to do? 01:39:08
Or do you want to do 1? 01:39:11
Then there's decisions on. 01:39:13
You have families that have. 01:39:14
For like, there's families of kids. 01:39:16
How do we? 01:39:18
How do we overcome that? 01:39:20
And then there's problems of. 01:39:21
How can we expand parking? So there's about. 01:39:24
12 different decisions that we have to sit down. 01:39:26
Because you guys live amongst yourselves. 01:39:29
It's your decision. 01:39:31
And at the end of the meeting, we wanted to sit down and go. 01:39:33
Who is the person that. 01:39:35
That is in charge of. 01:39:37
And communicating what that decision. 01:39:39
Is and then that decision. 01:39:41
Would be your neighborhoods. You wouldn't be coming here for a vote. 01:39:44
And it would be and and. 01:39:48
What is that leadership look like? 01:39:50
Is that 2 people? Is it one person? Who's the block captain that's in charge of that? 01:39:52
Because you guys are gonna have to. 01:39:58
You guys gonna have to look each other in the eye. 01:39:59
Because what happened on the two other communities, they did a digital parking pass like you guys were talking about. 01:40:02
The HOA people were so ****** ***. 01:40:08
That they did it. They even got told themselves. 01:40:11
And then they came back and it was like, we're so. 01:40:13
And it was like, great, but you own the decision. It's not us. 01:40:15
And then? 01:40:18
Even the neighborhood being very flexible saying that could happen. 01:40:19
You guys. 01:40:24
Without government in place, could. 01:40:24
Group together real quick in your group chat. 01:40:26
And have better conversations and say. 01:40:29
Let's adjust. We wanna go to two passes. We wanna go to 1 pass. This isn't working. Let's do paper. 01:40:31
But it is a. 01:40:37
Individual neighborhood experience. 01:40:38
And one of the other reasons why we wanted to do that is, is there differentiation between Bridgeport? 01:40:40
Endless seminat. 01:40:46
Or the gardens, right, So that it's individ? 01:40:48
And the Maple and cottonwoods, so that what that is and that you guys are coming at this as an educated decision. The other reason 01:40:51
why we need to do this, we're not throwing. 01:40:55
These aren't bad people. 01:40:59
But in taking. 01:41:01
Into this problem. 01:41:03
We've never had anybody evicted in vineyards. 01:41:04
For years we were told that your. 01:41:07
Responses were being heard and that they were being investigated. 01:41:10
Part of that problem is staff. 01:41:14
Part of it is. 01:41:16
OK, this is the type of evidence. 01:41:17
That needs to be taken. 01:41:19
Does your can we educate you on this? How can we fulfill with that to be able to do that right? 01:41:21
And so these are different decisions between 4 different communities on what they want. 01:41:26
And we're only coming into the meeting to go. 01:41:31
What is the consensus? Because what happened here is. 01:41:34
We're going to do digital parking passes. 01:41:37
We're going to force it down. 01:41:40
If we're going to use our lose our sovereignty and that's and that's OK. 01:41:41
But are all four of you that same? 01:41:45
And then who is and that when if it doesn't work? 01:41:47
Are you guys all going to come back and scream to us and we're going, no, that shouldn't happen that way. 01:41:50
There should be 1 neighborhood person. 01:41:54
That owns it. 01:41:57
And the other reason why is is that one person or that leadership can help us in a monthly meeting to go. 01:41:58
Is our enforcement employee doing it the right way? Do you have problems with the evidence? Because we found out. 01:42:04
That there were excuses that were did not have merit. 01:42:12
We've gone and met with Provo, we've gone and met with Orem and. 01:42:16
I don't want this to be an attack on any employee or any past policy. 01:42:19
But dammit, Oral and Provo do this. 01:42:24
And so if they can do it, we can do it. 01:42:27
And so learning those. 01:42:29
Problems and I don't want to deputize this leader. 01:42:31
But. 01:42:35
That and I love our our previous council. 01:42:36
But I sat on here for two years saying that we are doing enforcement. 01:42:39
And we weren't. 01:42:43
And so for two years later to get into it, it's like very frustrating. So we've got to be able to have. 01:42:45
And then when you talk about enforcement. 01:42:50
You're talking about very different enforcement. 01:42:52
And so we've learned through this. 01:42:55
But then the other thing is, is we've learned is there's bad actors. 01:42:57
When you give over your sovereignty. 01:43:01
On the roads. 01:43:04
And I do agree that it could be good. 01:43:05
Especially right at the beginning. 01:43:07
But it's going to **** people off because you're going to make a mistake because you're going to. 01:43:08
Heart 12 inches. 01:43:12
You're going to think you didn't. Part 12 and says off. 01:43:15
And he's compensated by 475. 01:43:18
You know a toe. 01:43:20
And so it's like, OK, but you guys? 01:43:22
You know what I mean? And so it's like you're not coming back to us on if that is. 01:43:24
But then there's. 01:43:27
Don't lose our sovereignty toe. 01:43:28
Which is. 01:43:30
That we can deputize the leader of your neighborhood to say. 01:43:31
OK, we don't want him policing. 01:43:35
We just want them when there is a problem. We want them moving immediately, quickly. 01:43:37
Right. 01:43:42
And then that one has to notify that. So someone has to notify real quick. 01:43:43
So it still goes to. 01:43:46
The sheriff or or our staff, right? 01:43:47
And that person is I'm sending a text message to Shoto. 01:43:50
And we, you know, setting up the automatic tow. 01:43:54
They can come in 15 minutes and. 01:43:59
That's what we're learning is better. 01:44:01
But to be honest with you, this is a learning game and we wanted skin. 01:44:03
Like you guys are all passionate and I feel the love in the community. 01:44:07
And the desire to serve. 01:44:11
But it was like we didn't get that. And we're like, we have to educate on that. 01:44:13
Because you guys have to stare each other in the eye and so. 01:44:18
That's what I'm hearing today and if you guys are. 01:44:21
Willing to do that, You guys are coming. 01:44:23
Blanketly, umm. 01:44:26
We'll do this from me, on my standpoint, I'm like. 01:44:27
I don't mind blanketly doing that. 01:44:30
But I want a meeting. 01:44:33
Thursday like. 01:44:34
Two days from now. 01:44:36
That you will sit down, that you all show up the same. 01:44:38
We will go through all of those different problems. 01:44:40
That we will sit down and find a leadership group. 01:44:43
So the 9 or 10 people that. 01:44:46
Send angry emails. 01:44:48
About I don't want to do it and that's because they research with the other two. 01:44:50
That they were failed and so we didn't even get a present. OK. 01:44:54
This is the predatory tub that we're. 01:44:57
There were. 01:44:59
Faced with right? 01:45:01
And so it's you're more educated about. 01:45:03
And then the last thing I would say is. 01:45:05
You're more educated about. 01:45:07
Your decision. 01:45:08
Because this doesn't work. You guys coming and screaming for two minutes. 01:45:09
I've been here for two years. 01:45:14
And coming to the microphone and going north or South side. 01:45:16
And then hearing from staff saying, oh, it is being done and then it's not. It's like. 01:45:20
It wasn't being done and I hate to say this, but you were lied to. 01:45:25
It wasn't. That's a big rant, but those are that's what we're. 01:45:29
That's why I like the neighborhood thing. It's so come up to the mic now. 01:45:32
I don't know, can we also share? 01:45:35
On this real quick. 01:45:38
One of the big efforts with Operation Neighborhood Shield that was briefed last week is the increased code enforcement, because I 01:45:39
think everyone here is in agreeance. 01:45:43
The parking is a problem because of the over occupancy and I know as a statistic you know last year there were over 300. 01:45:47
Code enforcement violation reports made. 01:45:54
And I think only two fines were issued. 01:45:57
So the enforcement piece is where we've historically struggled the most. 01:45:59
We're moving to add. 01:46:03
Employees to do that full time as well as shift work morning and evening. 01:46:05
And bolster how they can collect evidence. 01:46:09
To actually enforce these codes, you know, you're also real quick, just so you know. 01:46:12
We're also being gained by investors where the 30 people that are coming in, I know we can't share private information. 01:46:16
But we know information enough to be able to know how we're being gained and buying multiple houses and you guys have information. 01:46:23
That can help. 01:46:30
Better. 01:46:31
So the decision is being made. 01:46:31
We also have people that. 01:46:33
Own the investment properties that also live in Vineyard and go to social media. 01:46:35
And are scared that we're going to be enforcing this, but there's only 20 to 30 of them so. 01:46:40
I'm sorry but. 01:46:45
You bought a home with only four with with four people, not 8. 01:46:46
And so we have the backbone to be able to do it, but. 01:46:51
The knowledge that you have in your neighborhoods. 01:46:53
You know your specific problem and so having a block captain person No, no, we know this person, but also. 01:46:56
Collectively working together. 01:47:02
But also there's been some violations that have come in where you guys have been ratted out as to. 01:47:05
Our employee violating sensitive information like you're turning them in. 01:47:10
And that and then it stopped your ability to. 01:47:14
Anonymously go through and do that. So we have to be the bad guys in the. 01:47:18
And our block, and I hate to say this, but our employees work for us. 01:47:22
And that type of culture. 01:47:27
Enforcement that backbone. 01:47:30
Does not mean it's it's it's love, you know and so. 01:47:32
That's what we need. 01:47:36
That's what we're asking from you guys. 01:47:37
And we're going to be a willing partner. 01:47:39
Is that one thing, Mayor, please go on to? Can we ask the deputy Sergeant if perhaps? 01:47:41
He might have some stats for us about about the last week to do more patrolling, right, they did. 01:47:46
For enforcement, what? What happened there? What? 01:47:50
Do you have any death and sponsor him? 01:47:55
The number that we gave that was. 01:47:58
On there but I mean we've hit it hard up and I mean let's Gemini just for. 01:48:01
Just for. 01:48:05
I mean your sake. I mean I've got. 01:48:07
Excellent pictures of that. 01:48:09
Tiny ambulance that. 01:48:11
That they have down here now. 01:48:12
Where it is right in between the road and I've actually got it within like this distance on both sides. 01:48:15
So even the small one is having problems in there. It's not like it's unknown for us. 01:48:21
But even with me and a full size Tahoe going down there. 01:48:26
It's an issue and can I ask this? 01:48:29
I mean, while we're on the subject. 01:48:31
Is there not already the mechanism that if there's. 01:48:34
And unsafe. 01:48:37
Parked car like in front of a fire hydrant, in front of a stop sign, on a red curb. 01:48:39
Can those not just be towed immediately and do we have a agreement in place to allow us to do that? 01:48:43
Yeah, we can. We can do that. 01:48:48
Based on the public safety side, so. 01:48:51
With for instance with your. 01:48:53
You're right. 01:48:55
But it's the medical part doesn't necessarily alleviate all of the concern, but that alleviates. 01:48:58
Some of the safety issue. 01:49:02
Especially going around corners. 01:49:05
Right, but it. 01:49:06
By putting in a party I mean I agree with the permit, it's just the style and then especially when you see people parking from 01:49:07
the. 01:49:10
The trail railroads like hey, this person just came over, let's grab them. 01:49:13
Like that knowledge is key because we could act on it quickly, but that's why I'm saying on a partnership is like. 01:49:17
We are. 01:49:23
Screaming. We've messaged to a lot of people like. 01:49:23
When can we hold this meeting? 01:49:26
And they can be very quick and especially with. 01:49:28
The overwhelming desire, and I agree there is misinformation about on both sides, like in terms of like. 01:49:31
And you're going to learn through this process. 01:49:40
Really. I mean, as a small business owner, iteration fails great. 01:49:42
And we're going to do this. 01:49:46
Contract, we're going to try it for 30 days. 01:49:48
Great. We're going to switch over and. 01:49:50
There's kind of like a Swiss army knife of tools of. 01:49:52
What? Uh. 01:49:55
What do you want to do? 01:49:55
And as a civil neighborhood, having those conversations quickly and giving feedback to the leaders what you need. 01:49:57
So Ron Francis Gordon I. 01:50:03
First of all. 01:50:06
I I would like. 01:50:07
I mean, I think it's pretty unanimous. We want the solution and I don't think. 01:50:08
From at least our garden. 01:50:12
Yeah, uh. 01:50:14
I didn't know. 01:50:15
The only thing I saw was in this group meet that. 01:50:17
Has been going on, it's having on most of the information and I came to the meeting 2 weeks ago. 01:50:20
But I didn't know that. 01:50:23
You guys were attending to meet with us because I mean I will meet with you any day of the week honestly, you mean and I know I 01:50:24
can get people in the neighborhood. 01:50:28
Willing to meet with you? I don't think that. 01:50:31
You know, I don't think that that's. 01:50:34
Like I, I don't think there's any kind of political like. 01:50:36
So you deputize Jacob Smith? 01:50:41
Or Jacob Wood to hold a meeting with every neighborhood and to start immediately. 01:50:43
And so this is the first time hearing of that. 01:50:48
So I was here, Yeah, let many of you know. 01:50:50
And many of them said sorry, we were told to wait. 01:50:53
And come to a meeting and vote and we're like, we don't even know what. 01:50:56
Voting on like. 01:50:59
I mean, there's a lot of stuff on that chat. It's like trying to read like and that's, you know, in the past. 01:51:01
Yeah, I just, I just want to say like we are absolutely willing to work with anyone here to try to get a solution so and I'd love 01:51:07
to hear more about the. 01:51:11
Neighborhood shield thing because. 01:51:15
Ultimately, occupancy is the biggest issue. So I mean, sounds like you've already had a consensus. It sounds like most of four 01:51:17
groups have it. 01:51:20
And so it's like. 01:51:23
Yeah, the person that's the leader. Please tell us how to do it, how to proceed. That's my. 01:51:24
There does need I still want to advocate for the the formal community meetings. 01:51:30
I I wanna bring up this point and. 01:51:35
I'm not doubting you all at all. 01:51:37
In the last 24 hours or so. 01:51:41
I've gotten a dozen emails. 01:51:44
From people that are angry we're even talking about this tonight. 01:51:46
Serious. 01:51:49
Correct, and that's what I'm I'm asking for help with. 01:51:50
I suspect. 01:51:54
That these emails. 01:51:55
May be people who are already in violation. 01:51:57
And subsequently they don't want the. 01:52:00
The parking to be enforced or subsequent. 01:52:02
Investor owned. 01:52:05
So we don't know who they are. 01:52:06
Many of these emails. 01:52:07
And I actually. 01:52:09
Maybe Jesse, that would be a point I need to ask about is I don't know if I can disclose their information. 01:52:09
Many of these emails are citing things. 01:52:15
Like. 01:52:19
We're not being included in those discussions. They know that I'm against it, so they won't let me talk. 01:52:20
Everybody knows this town. 01:52:25
No, they're not correct. They're talking about your group chats, your community chats, those kind of things. 01:52:27
Right, but. 01:52:32
But it but it's what I'm really asking for is I just want to make sure that. 01:52:33
When we have this meeting, can we make sure the invite goes out to the neighborhood, use the ward text roster or any of those kind 01:52:37
of things? My question is what meeting was try was attempted to be arranged with Bridgeport? 01:52:42
That people deny. 01:52:47
So because Hamlet does not live in fridge. 01:52:49
So for Bridgeport specifically, I'm curious who was reached out to. 01:52:51
When that meeting was. 01:52:55
Who denied it? 01:52:57
It looks like it looks like there's just what support is still needed. 01:52:58
So. 01:53:04
Correct. Yeah, so. 01:53:06
People are frustrated and saying that they won't even listen to all of these members who have been trying. 01:53:08
We have been working with Ezra for right, but Ezra, so the vote that night was. 01:53:14
Why have to start over? 01:53:19
We don't need to. We don't need to. We can meet Thursday. 01:53:21
Confusing point right there and where because. 01:53:25
Because if we were to do that, we would. 01:53:27
We would put a poster on every single door that day. 01:53:29
We would like you got to go through a public process. I don't know what GroupMe and it wasn't a public GroupMe and it wasn't 01:53:32
identified. You guys have to realize. 01:53:36
By deputizing you guys, we have to do things various, so a neighborhood you have to would. 01:53:40
It's no, no. What do you need us to do? We have to designate a neighborhood captain is. 01:53:45
Tonight it sounds like there's four neighborhoods that want to go through and do this. 01:53:53
We could do this Thursday. I mean, we could do it Thursday and, and many things we could start as a group right here in this 01:53:56
meeting. 01:54:00
We can start at 6:00. 01:54:04
If that works for Friday or Saturday, we're very flexible on what it is. 01:54:05
But to get every person in four neighborhoods together at one time, we could start doing educational thing all at once. 01:54:08
Through each one of the different things, the different options that are available. 01:54:15
This is my question. 01:54:18
And then break off into four groups to vote and to make decisions to come up. But who are you to say what conversations have and 01:54:19
have not already happened within the Bridgeport neighborhood? 01:54:23
Because we already have, and that's what we're coming to say, is that we need this to happen as a government agency a little. 01:54:28
GroupMe, Facebook, that happened with, that's not where all the conversations have happened. That's what I'm saying. Like you 01:54:34
don't even know what has happened in Bridgeport over the past couple months for a meeting to bring it all out, to do it in the 01:54:38
public. 01:54:41
To who? 01:54:45
That's what I'm asking. City Council meeting and voted to put Jacob Wooden. I was in that meeting. 01:54:46
And there was number communication to me after the fact that anybody wanted to meet with me. 01:54:52
Jacob, are you listening to this? Can you chime in? But we voted in the public meeting and said. 01:54:56
Because I was under the impression that Jacob reached out to people and I was there not to meet with people until after this and 01:55:01
my name was on the record and it said Ali Reed from Bridgeport, and I never heard a single thing after the fact. 01:55:06
So I don't love that there's more hoops that we're trying to jump through. 01:55:12
Like, we still need to do this. Let's do this, let's do this, let's do this. 01:55:16
Let's take a 5 minute recess. 01:55:20
Let's take a 5 minute recess. 01:55:22
Let's do that. Let's recess. We're doing good, though. 01:55:23
Well. 01:55:26
I want to make. I just want to make sure everyone's getting hurt, right? 01:55:27
So do you guys want to take a research or you want to keep going? 01:55:30
Keep going whatever you want man. 01:55:34
Ezra, did you want to say something? You've been wanting to say something. 01:55:36
Go ahead. 01:55:39
I would love to. 01:55:40
Thank you. 01:55:41
I don't. 01:55:44
I don't have any issues with. 01:55:47
Neighborhood. 01:55:49
At the work session I expressed my support for it. 01:55:51
I want to be very clear that. 01:55:55
This parking program that's being proposed is not going to solve. 01:55:57
All problems. 01:56:01
But it will absolutely address the low hanging fruit of when. 01:56:02
You have more than. 01:56:06
Six cars. 01:56:07
Out on the street for one household. 01:56:09
You've got. 01:56:11
One or 2% of the neighborhood causing. 01:56:12
15 to 20% of an issue. 01:56:14
And. 01:56:17
I think all this other stuff is great, like we're going to work on code enforcement. Sheriff's already been hitting it hard, but 01:56:18
we need to do more. 01:56:21
And part of this. 01:56:25
Will this help? 01:56:26
Each home. Each home has. 01:56:29
Sufficient amount of parking. 01:56:31
For their own needs, their own cars and encourage people to use. 01:56:33
Their driveways as well. 01:56:37
And so I just want to read the resolution that's being proposed real quick. 01:56:38
It's very short. 01:56:43
I, I I. 01:56:44
Gave the framework and. 01:56:47
2 council meetings ago and then talked about. 01:56:48
Or two weeks ago in council meeting. 01:56:51
And there have been a couple changes that. 01:56:53
I've made based on. 01:56:56
Community input and feedback that that I've received. 01:56:57
And I don't. 01:57:01
Like me meeting or talking with neighborhoods? 01:57:03
People that live in my neighborhood, people that. 01:57:06
Know me and just want to express their opinions. 01:57:08
As a member of the Council, I don't. 01:57:11
I don't feel like I have been trying to. 01:57:13
Circumvent anything that Jacob Wood's doing or Jake Hold away or anyone else on the council is doing it. 01:57:17
Why don't you add us into group chat? 01:57:23
Why don't we know about it So two weeks ago? 01:57:25
I framework Did you imagine how frustrated we are though guys like. 01:57:29
It's well, right, I know, but like. 01:57:32
Ezra. 01:57:38
Don't keep going. 01:57:40
Thank you, Sir. 01:57:41
So anyway. 01:57:43
Have a. 01:57:45
Some conversations with folks through many, many meetings. People reach out to me on Facebook Messenger. 01:57:47
It will reach out for your text. 01:57:52
Not everybody is going to be supportive of this. No, no policy is going to get 100% support ever. 01:57:55
In the history of the world. 01:58:00
I've had some great discussions with with people who. 01:58:03
Say I. 01:58:05
Move specifically to an area that's not an HOA because I don't want any regulation. 01:58:07
I don't want to deal with any of this mess. 01:58:12
And I I've taken. 01:58:13
Thoughts into consideration in this proposal? 01:58:15
And my hope is that we can have something that's very low barrier to entry. 01:58:18
But will address. 01:58:23
Some of the biggest issues that we have, which is. 01:58:25
More than. 01:58:28
Two or three cars in a home, parking on the street, taking up space for everyone else. 01:58:29
Which causes. 01:58:33
Like the after effects of people parking illegally because they still want to park close to their homes. 01:58:34
And so if you. 01:58:38
Reduce the amount of parking that's available overall. 01:58:39
Then that should. 01:58:42
Naturally help without a bunch of resources from the city doing code enforcement. So here here's here's a proposal that I had. 01:58:43
So there's six points here. 01:58:49
Number one permits are required for parking vehicles. 01:58:51
Overnight between hours of 1:00 AM to 5:00 AM on public streets. 01:58:54
And the permit program neighborhoods which? 01:58:58
I would include the seminar Bridgeport. 01:59:00
The Garden. 01:59:02
And included a blank that sounds like a Maple is super on board. I would love to include them as well. 01:59:03
To be proactive in that effort. 01:59:08
Each household in the permit. 01:59:10
Program Neighborhoods is eligible for. 01:59:11
See if a free parking permit if requested. 01:59:13
And here I haven't included whether they're. 01:59:16
Paper or digital? 01:59:18
But I think. 01:59:19
Great points were made about the digital passes. I would love to see that so people don't have to constantly remember. 01:59:21
To move those and they just register their cars and then they're done. 01:59:25
Each household may receive a second free permit for household if they are either. 01:59:29
And owner occupied non rental unit. 01:59:33
Or an owner occupied rental that has. 01:59:35
Complied with all applicable city codes and maintains an active. 01:59:37
Applicable business or rental license, including provisions to provide enough parking spaces on the property. 01:59:41
So we then encourage people to work with the city if they're having these rental units as well. 01:59:46
Non rental units may be eligible for a third free permit. 01:59:51
If they can demonstrate to city staff that there's insufficient parking for their household. 01:59:54
Based on the number of drivers and their family. 01:59:58
That's something that I brought up two weeks ago and asked for. 02:00:00
Council input on. 02:00:03
Heard a lot of. 02:00:04
Feedback from the residents that. 02:00:05
Hey, if we if we allow this, this is going to. 02:00:07
Get more broad support. 02:00:09
Be a lot easier to implement for people and. 02:00:10
And provide that balance between people who don't want any action. 02:00:12
And people who do want. 02:00:15
Some enforcement decisions. 02:00:16
And then I added. 02:00:18
All decisions by city staff regarding ineligibility based on that belt criteria. 02:00:20
May be reviewed by the City Council for final determination. 02:00:24
So that we take. 02:00:27
The opportunity to weigh in on any of those decisions if people are denied. 02:00:28
Enough parking passes. 02:00:32
Additionally, the temporary permits that may be requested for up to two weeks at a time. 02:00:35
And that the program will be noticed to the permit program neighborhoods through door hangers, social media. 02:00:39
And any other method that staff use necessary to inform the public. 02:00:44
And that enforcement would begin May 28, 2026, which is? 02:00:47
The Thursday after Memorial Day, so going into Memorial Day weekend. 02:00:51
That's plenty of time to let the public know. 02:00:54
Let people know that this is happening. 02:00:57
In those neighborhoods. 02:00:59
I do feel like this would just be a great first step. 02:01:01
To help. 02:01:03
Give code enforcement something to enforce, like in the Gemini. 02:01:05
There's no rules about how many cars you can park on the street. You could park 1015 cars on the street if you wanted to. 02:01:09
As long as you move every 48 hours. 02:01:14
And so if you have code enforcement for something. 02:01:16
That isn't a law. 02:01:19
Or isn't a rule. 02:01:20
Then it wouldn't solve anything on. 02:01:21
On the amount of parking that's happening on the streets and causing the. 02:01:23
The safety issues that people have talked about and the other issues as well. 02:01:26
I do recognize that. 02:01:31
People aren't all going to be supportive of this. 02:01:32
But I do think. 02:01:35
A lot of the community have. 02:01:36
Exercise their right to organize as a community. 02:01:38
To reach out to. 02:01:40
Their council members. Their their neighbors. 02:01:42
And a lot of people know. 02:01:45
I don't think we should be putting guardrails on how people. 02:01:46
Interact with their government. 02:01:49
And I fully encourage doing all of the above like. 02:01:51
Have the meetings with with Jake. I've never. 02:01:55
Tell anybody not to meet. 02:01:57
With a council member. 02:01:59
On something that's going to happen in their neighborhood and I haven't done that. And so I just want to be. 02:02:01
Clear that that. 02:02:05
That is the case if there is any doubt that. 02:02:07
One of the issues, though, is that people speak to you, they they assume they've spoken to the city. 02:02:09
So that everyone got the message they gave to you. 02:02:15
I think. 02:02:17
So wait. 02:02:19
You guys thought you spoke with the city when? 02:02:21
So I know, but it's just so odd that we're finding out about this in 24 hour like. 02:02:31
I thought about this. 02:02:36
Two weeks ago I brought this up because we, and that's the thing that actually made me the most mad. And now that James brought it 02:02:37
up, I'm just going to open it up. This was a political trap and I'm just going to call it what it is. 02:02:42
This was ********. 02:02:47
And I'm not mad at you guys about it. I'm not about how this was handled specifically. 02:02:48
Recognize this? 02:02:52
If Ezra brings this up with less than 24 hours notice, which we as a whole Council have agreed. 02:02:54
That we were going to try to get the agendas out a week prior. 02:02:59
And we've done a good job of extending that right. We've been doing it on Fridays. 02:03:03
But this was brought up with less than 20 or 24 hours notice. Now if we don't agree to put this on the agenda immediately. 02:03:07
This is then weaponized to say that the mayor is blocking a City Council member and that's not the reality of the situation. We 02:03:14
want to have the discussions. We want to hear you guys out on this stuff. 02:03:18
OK, so then we put it on the agenda. 02:03:24
And it comes to the City Council. 02:03:26
And if we vote no on it? 02:03:28
We are the immediately the bad guys even though. 02:03:30
Our direction was subverted. 02:03:33
When we said let's have a community meeting. 02:03:35
Then if we vote yes on it. 02:03:38
You get a quick political win. 02:03:40
The reality is. 02:03:43
It totally acted in bad faith and that's not a reflection on the residents. 02:03:44
That's a reflection on how. 02:03:48
The City Council is currently operating and I think that that's bad. We need to have these conversations before and it shouldn't 02:03:50
be political gamesmanship because it does them a disservice. We just real quick, we just would have advised to post this for. 02:03:56
Seven days. 02:04:03
We would have advised to have the group. 02:04:04
In a like, let's identify a Facebook group where the conversation is happening. 02:04:06
So we can read all the comments. None of us are in any of these comments, OK? So we have no idea on the back and forth of what's 02:04:12
going on. 02:04:15
And Jacob would are 100% in the dark on this. 02:04:18
Would you please? 02:04:22
I would like to offer a solution I feel like. 02:04:24
Almost all of us here. 02:04:28
Feel like we're missing important pieces of information? 02:04:30
And so. 02:04:33
Would like to offer. 02:04:35
That I can. 02:04:37
I can be a liaison for Bridgeport this week. 02:04:40
I would love to. 02:04:43
What if we were? 02:04:45
Please let me finish. I'm sorry. 02:04:47
I would love. 02:04:51
To talk with any and all of you really quick. 02:04:52
About what information and what stipulations you need from our neighborhoods. 02:04:55
And I would love. 02:05:00
To get you guys involved in whatever conversations we are having on paper. 02:05:02
And I would love to. 02:05:07
To take some time, I know you want to move fast, We also want to move fast, but the reality is that. 02:05:08
We are people with children, with evening activities, and we can't always get our whole neighborhood together. What about them? 02:05:14
And so. 02:05:21
We would like. 02:05:22
To, you know, even just have a day and 1/2. 02:05:24
The If Thursday is the day, what if we want? 02:05:28
Zoom six and eight. Yeah, I'm just trying to find a solution here. 02:05:30
I am trying to offer one. Thank you. 02:05:35
I'm willing to be a liaison to. 02:05:39
Gather the correct information. 02:05:42
And share that correct information. 02:05:44
In as many avenues as possible with my neighborhood. 02:05:46
So that we can have a meeting. 02:05:49
That is approved and recognized by the City Council. 02:05:51
And that our neighborhood knows about so that we can address this. I'm sorry that it didn't happen in the past the way that you 02:05:55
guys wish it had. 02:05:58
I'm trying to move forward now. 02:06:02
Yeah, so. 02:06:03
I'm offering that as a solution. Is that acceptable to you? 02:06:04
I think that's great. I think that, yeah, I think that's awesome. 02:06:07
And let me just back up a little bit. 02:06:10
The best part about? 02:06:12
Being the mayor and this new form of governments don't have a vote so much for whatever you guys want to do. I'm cool with it. 02:06:13
I know you guys meet the rules. I enforce the rules, right? And you know. 02:06:20
To Parkers point, we are actively recruiting code enforcement. If anyone knows Dog the Bounty Hunter like I will hire him tomorrow 02:06:24
we put it. 02:06:27
We posted it. 02:06:31
And I think that. 02:06:34
I ought to speak from my seat. 02:06:36
The emails I've gotten. 02:06:38
Have been. 02:06:40
Much more against this. 02:06:42
What then for it? 02:06:44
That's just my lived experience over the last 48 hours. And I think that probably, Jake, these gentlemen have it figured out that 02:06:46
they're probably people that are. 02:06:50
Out of. 02:06:54
The loop out of the not out of the loop. Or maybe they're they're thinking like they're not following the law right now anyways. 02:06:56
But that's for reality. Like. 02:07:02
If I go through my it's it's. 02:07:03
It's a lot more against and for it and I. 02:07:05
And so that's, I think they've received quite some of them as well. 02:07:08
One of the decisions, I mean. 02:07:12
We can do it over that night. 02:07:14
OK, you have. 02:07:16
When this dropped, none of us knew that was going to be on the agenda. 02:07:18
So we got bombarded. 02:07:21
Like 12 to 15 emails going. 02:07:23
How come I didn't know about the referendum language? Why couldn't I look 'cause we we ran on? 02:07:25
Working sessions seven days in advance, throwing it out, having everyone know. 02:07:29
And then the other thing is is what is the? 02:07:34
Approved communication channel? Is that a Facebook group? 02:07:37
Is it a GroupMe? 02:07:40
And which is it to be able to hear? 02:07:42
And then? 02:07:44
The city staff in monitoring those comments. 02:07:45
Because not everything. 02:07:49
You're told is true, so you'll have like a neighbor that is an investor person. 02:07:51
That is the problem that is telling us something. 02:07:56
And so you're like. 02:07:59
OK, we don't live there. Is this person real or not? Is it real? Does that make sense? That's why that meeting is so critical of 02:08:00
like. 02:08:04
We've got to hold that meeting so and that's why we, that's why we as a council just came together and said. 02:08:09
Jacob Wood. 02:08:14
Like, make sure that there's a referee. 02:08:15
And there's going to be winners and losers, but in that meeting that we can hold. 02:08:18
And then? 02:08:23
This is the general plan of this neighborhood. 02:08:24
As a government entity. 02:08:28
You've got to give ample time to say this is the plan. 02:08:30
And you've got to go through public notice of so if we were to meet Thursday. 02:08:33
It might be hard to turn around a plan to say well. 02:08:38
Will knock doors. 02:08:42
And I don't know if. 02:08:43
You could say turn around to vote on it on a Tuesday. 02:08:45
Because we're seven days away, but we are voting next Tuesday. Yeah, we have to. So we could easily vote on that and get those 02:08:48
other, you know. 02:08:52
This is a general solution and have four different plans that say this is what we're what we're going to be doing and I could grab 02:08:56
the leaders. 02:09:00
Tonight we'll stay up till in the morning. 02:09:03
Educating you on These are the decisions, and these are the. 02:09:06
Pros and cons, and this is some of the things that we've learned. 02:09:09
Right, because I. 02:09:12
I don't know if my neighborhood wants me as a representative, but I am. Well, that's what you're here. 02:09:13
No, to be honest with you, that's what that's what the choosing. 02:09:19
In that meeting we will be doing that. So whoever shows up, yeah, just so you know, in that first meeting where to go. 02:09:25
Hey. 02:09:31
Tell me about your neighborhood. 02:09:31
And if you can submit some names before. 02:09:33
You know, talk trash privately, but he'd be like, hey, I don't want this person. Like help us understand. 02:09:35
Have a quick vote. 02:09:39
But then also. 02:09:40
How does this neighborhood communicate? 02:09:41
Does it communicate on GroupMe? 02:09:43
Does it communicate on Facebook? What are the best ways? 02:09:45
And is that public? 02:09:49
So that everyone is involved in that. 02:09:50
Group, because we cannot deny public comment. David Kyle, you know. 02:09:53
Could you do that? Could you? 02:09:57
Facilitate using like the cities e-mail list to e-mail all of the houses in those neighborhoods to notify them when the. 02:09:58
You can't do that. 02:10:05
I think we can post it. We can post it and push it on the social media. Yeah, we can post on social media. We also just to answer 02:10:07
your question if you want a more immediate. 02:10:11
So we have an option to. 02:10:16
There were two Ezra sent in resolution. 02:10:19
But then. 02:10:22
The mayor's office has a resolution as well. 02:10:23
Filled with parking. 02:10:26
And it's. 02:10:27
Design more to work with up. 02:10:29
With the Neighborhood Shield. 02:10:32
It gives. 02:10:34
The administration more flexibility. 02:10:34
In terms of. 02:10:37
The timing of the enforcement. 02:10:38
So in theory, you could actually have enforcement instead of waiting until. 02:10:40
May and May we could be enforcing the middle of April, if not sooner. 02:10:44
Again, citizens haven't seen that one. Well, what? Yeah, No, no, it's online. It's online. It is online from you posted in the so 02:10:50
it. 02:10:54
When there was a miscommunication yesterday and it didn't go online until earlier today, but it's there. 02:10:59
Go ahead, Tony. 02:11:06
I have just. 02:11:09
A direct question. 02:11:11
For Vineyard government. 02:11:13
Point blank, what is your source of truth platform? How? 02:11:15
Do you want to communicate with? 02:11:19
Your neighborhood. 02:11:22
What is going to happen because I have no problem following a GroupMe. 02:11:23
A Facebook, but I do get app fatigue where I'm tired of getting notifications from the. 02:11:28
So I would like to see Vineyard. 02:11:33
Government. 02:11:37
Establish what the source of truth is. If I need to go check the government website because I want to be involved, I'll go there. 02:11:38
But to have all of these? 02:11:45
Right, good citizens are have good intentions and where everything has to be officiated anyway. 02:11:47
What is going to be the source of truth moving forward, even for a meeting on Thursday? 02:11:52
Where is that going to be public? 02:11:57
Or published, so we are aware of it. Yes, that's true. 02:12:00
So that's what we're going to say something. 02:12:02
Yeah, I just wanted to respond to a comment so. 02:12:05
I sent this resolution in on Friday. 02:12:07
Talk to the mayor. 02:12:11
Said yeah, there was. 02:12:13
Miscommunication. 02:12:14
We definitely need to do something. 02:12:15
We talked about it at the. 02:12:17
Saint Patrick's Day race which is great as well. 02:12:19
So I never. 02:12:23
It was never my intention to have you guys see this 24 hours in advance like those minor changes that. 02:12:24
I made from 2 weeks ago and. 02:12:30
Told you guys hey, there's a bunch of residents that. 02:12:31
Have talked about doing a solution like this. 02:12:34
That was never my intention, so I apologize if you did feel blindsided by that. 02:12:38
But I just want to thank the mayor for. 02:12:43
Including and revising the agenda and allowing. 02:12:45
Us to take action if we did choose to do so. 02:12:47
Today or. 02:12:50
Whenever we would like. 02:12:52
Yeah, let's do this. 02:12:54
Sorry. 02:12:57
So I just did. I just wanted to 1st like. 02:12:59
When Jacob said, hey, we're all trying to be on the same page and be willing to do something. 02:13:02
You have me. 02:13:07
Because that's exactly where we're wrong. Where do we just want something? 02:13:08
Yeah, for sure action and we wanted something that. 02:13:11
That's different than what we have said the last five years. 02:13:14
Yeah, OK. 02:13:17
I do have a little problem. 02:13:19
With believing. 02:13:21
That you guys got headed up 24 hours ago. 02:13:23
At least it's just hard. 02:13:25
And as a as a resident of this. 02:13:28
And as somebody that comes from. 02:13:32
To work like it is a little concerning. 02:13:34
To see how you. 02:13:37
Are interacting. 02:13:40
And and. 02:13:42
I just hope, and I'm going to give you all the benefit of doubt. 02:13:44
That you don't use these emotions to make decisions because that's the worst thing. 02:13:47
And you know. 02:13:52
So that being said. 02:13:54
Coming from the Naples, we did meet. 02:13:57
With the City Council member. 02:13:58
We did not have. We had about 10 or 15 people we talked about. 02:14:01
This permit plan. 02:14:04
So is that not official? 02:14:06
I mean, is that kind of? 02:14:08
And what what what makes it official? Did you put the plan? I mean, did you put the plan on every door like the agreed upon plan? 02:14:10
So that's that's is that's what makes it official is. 02:14:16
Well, I mean so. 02:14:19
We're going to be adjusting the right. 02:14:20
I mean, yeah. 02:14:23
We're going to be adjusting the ranks of. 02:14:24
Homeowners, right? Yeah. So public disclosure of this is happening. 02:14:26
Was it notified that? 02:14:30
The your first original meeting because. 02:14:32
Public, the public decision that we made. 02:14:35
Was. 02:14:37
Jacob, what is authorized to do this not as Renaissance? OK, so we didn't even know it was occurring. 02:14:38
Like I didn't know about your meeting. 02:14:43
And so and then so and I'm very. 02:14:46
There were angry calls last night. 02:14:49
To our city. 02:14:51
Manager and our attorney and I was like, how in the hell did this happen? Yeah. And why didn't I know? 02:14:52
And so I was like, we're going to have a bunch of people angry. 02:14:57
Who is their leader? 02:15:00
What is the document? 02:15:01
What decisions did they make? 02:15:02
What messaging? 02:15:04
System did you use? 02:15:05
Did we verify that? 02:15:07
Because we're going to be infringing upon people's rights to the public. Rd. 02:15:08
Like. 02:15:13
You know, putting in an HOA type. 02:15:14
Towing Enforcement. 02:15:17
Where we're deputizing them and not having us. 02:15:19
Is a massive change because none of these people moved into an HOA. 02:15:23
But we're going to be doing that, which if the group is deciding to do. 02:15:26
We're so aggressive in wanting to do. 02:15:30
Like legally, we did none of that. 02:15:32
And so like we want to move on doing and say, OK, we've got to this is the. 02:15:35
Communication system. 02:15:39
This is the notice. 02:15:41
So we can back it up and say we hit every single door. 02:15:42
We fired it. We did a second meeting. 02:15:46
And then we. 02:15:48
Put it on the City Council meeting for seven days. 02:15:49
And we came back and said, guys, we deputized this. And so none of those public actions. 02:15:51
What threshold threshold are you? 02:15:56
So like. 02:15:59
Historically in the city, the rule was 75% and we recognized that that was not realistic, especially in the seminar in the 02:16:02
Bridgeport areas where there's so many renters. 02:16:06
So we came back and we said, look, even if you're. 02:16:11
Close to 50%. We just want to make sure that there's an actual consensus because. 02:16:13
Both weeks that we've had this on the agenda. 02:16:18
We get blown up the night prior with angry emails that wonders is on the agenda and two people that don't support it. And I 02:16:20
recognize that it's unpopular to say, but we are also responsible for representing the renters in Vineyard. 02:16:26
Yeah. And look, we want to do what's best for the community at large and the homeowners and we want to make sure that this is a 02:16:31
safe place especially. That's why my focus is more on the safety aspect of it. 02:16:37
But it's. 02:16:42
We just have to make sure that. 02:16:43
Everyone is being notified and everyone's brought into the loop and that the information is being disseminated in a way that. 02:16:45
Everyone can participate and give public comment. 02:16:50
Yeah, and. 02:16:53
I was here 2 weeks ago you City Council meeting. 02:16:54
And this is your agenda from Vineyard website? 02:16:57
This is all it says. Council member would lead a brief discussion regarding proposed changes of towing enforcement. 02:17:01
There was discussion among council and residents. 02:17:06
Presented how to implement changes. 02:17:09
As well as how to counsel with HOA's, the council decided to continue the item and hold the. 02:17:11
Longer discussion at a later date, correct? That's a different. That's the. This is the tenant. 02:17:16
What's that correct? That that discussion was about lakefront? You're thinking the one that you want to know. This is predatory 02:17:21
touring 24 hour. 02:17:24
Correct. That's OK. But even 1 from 2 weeks prior, it would have been a month ago and even OK. So two weeks prior though we did 02:17:28
have a discussion about it again. 02:17:32
We talked about towing and we talked about enforcement. 02:17:36
Yeah, but but even very. 02:17:39
I think it's it's. 02:17:42
But even then. 02:17:43
But what I'm saying is you guys are. 02:17:44
Accusing us of political entrapment, which I think is a little bit extreme if I'm being, if I'm being honest, we have no idea and 02:17:46
like we're trying to like. 02:17:49
Ambush or something. This has been a problem we've been talking to you about for a long time, and the last I heard two weeks ago 02:17:52
we came. 02:17:55
With concerns and. 02:17:58
None of us got invited to a meeting or not. None of us. Maybe one of you, one of us did. 02:18:00
And so. 02:18:04
We want it to work, but I just don't want. 02:18:05
The political. 02:18:08
Politics to get in the way of like what's what well, it is right now it's getting in the way of it right now because you're 02:18:09
accusing us of trying to trap you into a vote I don't even think anybody in here has suggested has suggested that we. 02:18:15
Demanding a vote. We're just here to support. Like, that's why I'm here and that's why we come up here. 02:18:21
Is to support but. 02:18:26
To have you sit here and accuse us of. 02:18:27
Trying to go behind your back or something. It's just poor communication is what it ultimately is. You know what I mean? So. 02:18:29
We just, we just want a solution. I don't. 02:18:34
I'll work with anyone to get a solution, but. 02:18:37
All this talk about like we're trying to. 02:18:39
Trap you in to make a decision I think is just unproductive. So let's just have a let's just have a discussion about. 02:18:42
Or make a plan because the last meeting that I came to. 02:18:48
The thing was like we just talked about at a later date and then it got second and then it was off the table, you know what I 02:18:51
mean? So that's. 02:18:54
Let's just have some action that's that's still on, you know, let's do a motion. Let's do it. 02:18:56
I make a motion that. 02:19:01
A1 representative from each. 02:19:05
Neighborhood Can you stand up? 02:19:08
Not the leader that's selected, but just. 02:19:11
Get the message out, leader. 02:19:13
So we have. 02:19:15
There we go. 02:19:16
So you guys seminar. 02:19:17
Gardens. 02:19:20
Maples. 02:19:22
Hey. 02:19:24
Are you listening to? 02:19:28
OK, but it's just to get the message. 02:19:29
It's just to get the message out so that on social media. 02:19:32
We can help you and we can find all your Facebook groups. 02:19:36
So between here and then. 02:19:39
Are you guys able to act? 02:19:41
Thursday or Friday? 02:19:43
We have the interfaith thing Wednesday. 02:19:45
Tell me pregnant more people than negative. 02:19:46
OK, now. 02:19:49
We are we able to get printing out? 02:19:51
The doors on that meeting on all four neighborhoods, or could we get the printing off? 02:19:54
To get to these leaders that they could hit it on every door so we've. 02:20:00
Public notice. So we've fulfilled with public notice requirements. 02:20:04
That's a lot. I know. That's what I'm saying. So we've got to fulfill with that, right? We can't. 02:20:09
We don't want to get sued for not fulfilling the public, not like. 02:20:14
So. 02:20:18
It's like so we are thinking that it's similar. 02:20:23
But if we did it at the exact same day and time. 02:20:26
To find out in the meeting that you can separate it, let's just do this. What's your motion? 02:20:29
My motion is that. 02:20:33
We motion that these 4 individuals are. 02:20:35
Helping us. 02:20:38
And scheduling a meeting Thursday night. 02:20:39
And that that meeting will be convened to put together with. 02:20:42
All of their neighborhoods and we will go over the rules and regulations and options at the beginning of that meeting. We think we 02:20:45
can get that done in. 02:20:49
15 to 20, maybe 30 minutes. 02:20:53
And that those 4 neighborhoods or three depending on if they break up in the group when they talk. 02:20:56
Then break up and organize their decisions to come back. 02:21:01
And then we could go and. 02:21:05
Finalize that and. 02:21:07
Paper document. 02:21:08
And digitally as well. 02:21:10
So that the following Tuesday we can vote upon the plan of what those neighborhoods. 02:21:11
OK, awesome. Do I have a second on that tentatively, tentatively based upon the decisions of the, I mean obviously of? 02:21:17
The groups. 02:21:23
I think we have pretty much consensus. 02:21:24
Right. I think we there's a broad range of. 02:21:27
We're going to be doing something. 02:21:30
There's many different options of what that is, and it's individual. 02:21:32
Like on what it is. 02:21:36
But I would also ask that tomorrow I'm available. 02:21:37
So if we could meet the leaders to go through and educate about what those options are. So they're pre. 02:21:40
We could do an educational thing. 02:21:45
We could even do this straight like on a Facebook Live, so that it's a little bit easier for those to attend, like at 10:00 at 02:21:47
night. 02:21:50
Like we are more than willing to wait to go through. 02:21:53
And educate, but there's some tough decisions that you guys are going to make. That's a neighborhood. 02:21:55
Let's drive a second to that motion. That's a long motion, Kate. 02:22:01
Can I ask some clarifying questions? Yes. 02:22:05
So we'll notice it is a. 02:22:09
Public City Council meetings so that everybody can attend. 02:22:10
Yeah, that I know. That's a struggle too with just. 02:22:12
With the corn, do you want a corn? 02:22:15
I would like to attend. 02:22:19
The Jason boy will be there, so the three of us will be here. I don't have a vote, so you guys just tell me what to do. 02:22:21
So there's. 02:22:26
This is going to be. 02:22:28
And I'll just highlight like that, that's one of the struggles of. 02:22:30
You know, we have all these rules and regulations on. 02:22:34
Public meetings and we. 02:22:37
We noticed them on the Public Notes website. 02:22:39
So that we can all have. We can't meet five of us without going through all those steps. 02:22:41
And so that's why this this process and official council meetings are so important in my opinion. 02:22:46
I'm happy to call a special meeting if we would like to do that, just so everybody can attend. 02:22:51
But I don't. 02:22:55
I don't feel like limiting the discussion to just. 02:22:57
One or two council members is. 02:23:00
Better when we can just have it with all of us have it out. Yeah. Can we just bring the neighborhoods in? 02:23:02
Like 1 after another hour by hour block or something and just do it in here. 02:23:07
I think the semantics we can. So the motion is, the motion is we are going to. 02:23:11
Is that OK? Are you getting this, Tony? All right, so let's. I'm just glad, OK. All right. 02:23:19
This is the motion. 02:23:29
The motion is we are going to have a meeting. 02:23:30
On what is the motion, Jake? 02:23:32
Yeah, you said they're going to be meeting. 02:23:35
I make a motion that the four captains selected this evening from the four different neighborhoods. 02:23:39
Are going to be helping get out the word throughout their various. 02:23:45
Messaging apps the best that they can, all the different ones that are. 02:23:48
Available. 02:23:51
For a meeting on Thursday night. 02:23:52
We will allow for a different time flexibility. 02:23:55
That we hopefully at the end of this night we can find out. 02:23:59
And then? 02:24:02
In that meeting. 02:24:03
We will discuss the various options and we will pick leadership. 02:24:05
To be able to do it and hopefully present. 02:24:08
Basics of a plan. 02:24:10
That then can be sent out to the neighborhoods to be ratified. 02:24:12
Or voted on at the next City Council meeting on Tuesday. 02:24:16
March 31st. 02:24:20
31st. 02:24:21
OK, do I have a? 02:24:22
If they so need more help. 02:24:25
Or time you know there's. 02:24:27
Just there's. 02:24:29
Angry emails say I wasn't included. 02:24:31
But if if it's like, hey, but The thing is, is this this. 02:24:33
All right. That's my motion. That's your motion. 02:24:37
Do I have a second? 02:24:40
2nd. 02:24:43
Parker seconded. 02:24:44
All in favor, aye? 02:24:47
I, I what time is? 02:24:50
Tuesday's council. 02:24:52
Next 6:00 PM. Is that work for you? Yeah. 02:24:54
OK, we'll bring the 6:08 PM. 02:24:57
And and if if Jacob Wood says I so it doesn't. 02:25:00
I don't think I have anything else, can I? 02:25:04
Can I excuse myself to go meet with them throughout the rest of the meeting? 02:25:06
Just the leader, yes, let's do that. Because if we're going to do that next Tuesday, I've got to get through some other stuff 02:25:10
regarding the other things. So should we do like a? 02:25:14
Do you want to? 02:25:19
OK. 02:25:21
All right, we'll keep going. 02:25:23
All righty. 02:25:25
Motion passes. 02:25:26
OK. You guys want to recess? 02:25:30
The bathroom. Can you give me like 3 minutes? Give me like 3 minutes. 02:25:38
Yes, if you would like to reach this, we can hit the gavel. It doesn't count. 02:25:44
4 minute reset. 02:25:49
Good job, Mayor. 02:25:54
16. 02:25:56
You are live. OK, We are going to come out of recess now. 02:32:23
Get back after it. 02:32:29
Um. 02:32:31
So we need to do let's motion to move 8.6 to next week. 02:32:34
We need to officially do that right? 02:32:39
Move 8.6 next week. OK so can I get a motion? 02:32:40
I move, we continue 8.6 to next week. Tuesday's meeting. 02:32:44
You have a second, all right? All in favor. Aye, aye. 02:32:49
OK, motion passes. 02:32:51
All right, let's jump down to. We're going to go to the. 02:32:53
Arch Commission. 02:32:56
Portion 10.2 Let's go arch. 02:32:58
Teddy. 02:33:02
OK, discussion, right? I'm just gonna do it from over here. 02:33:03
You're all by yourself. Where did 1 go? 02:33:07
There we go. 02:33:11
All right, go ahead, Brian. 02:33:12
OK. 02:33:14
Apologize for the wait. 02:33:16
But yeah, so essentially. 02:33:20
Have some final thoughts for you? 02:33:23
When we met with the Arts Commission. 02:33:26
Last Thursday. 02:33:28
We didn't have enough to do a formal vote, but I got. 02:33:30
Basically their thoughts to bring before you. 02:33:34
We'll move forward with that. 02:33:37
Why is this not only had two commissioners there? Is that right? 02:33:39
We had three, but one of them had recused themselves of a vote. 02:33:42
And so we couldn't officially vote. 02:33:47
Something in particular. 02:33:50
Let's see. 02:33:54
Why is this showing up with two screens? 02:33:56
Oh, because we have. 02:33:58
So OK. 02:34:00
Legal counsel. 02:34:03
OK, well if you can't see this, I'll just go through this. 02:34:04
Briefly and I'll answer any questions that you have. 02:34:07
Vineyard Library had. 02:34:10
The highest? 02:34:12
Overall score from the Arts Commission. 02:34:14
3630 is the Max that they could get. 02:34:19
What was mentioned earlier by a resident is that. 02:34:22
There's potential they could get $130.00 less so it's between awarding full to Vineyard library. 02:34:26
Or Utah Valley Symphony down below. I'll go over that here in a second. 02:34:32
Friends of the Vineyard Library. 02:34:37
They requested 2000 they had the second highest vote from the Arts Commission. 02:34:38
They'd like all of them to. 02:34:44
They'd like them to get the full budget. 02:34:46
That specifically would. 02:34:48
Go towards a second weekly story time. 02:34:51
Paying for staff to do that, it would pay. 02:34:54
Also $800 worth. 02:34:57
To go towards adult. 02:35:00
Books. 02:35:02
For the library as currently we do not have any. 02:35:03
Adult. 02:35:06
Books. 02:35:09
For children. 02:35:10
$0.00 recommended for Carry On which is the skate park group. 02:35:13
Just put the skate park coming in. 02:35:17
Vineyard Heritage Foundation. 02:35:22
Reached out and said that. 02:35:24
Instead of their original request of 15,750. 02:35:25
That they could. 02:35:30
Make do and carry out the project. 02:35:31
For 11,000. 02:35:33
So it was talked about that we give them the full budget that they requested with that. 02:35:36
Utah Valley Symphony. 02:35:42
Is umm. 02:35:43
Again, either of those numbers. 02:35:45
And then Utah Lake Foundation would be 1500. 02:35:47
This is for a paddle with care event that starts in Vineyard. 02:35:51
And is about drowning prevention. 02:35:57
That holds the 20,000. Happy to go into more detail if you have more questions on specifically what all those would be allocated, 02:36:00
clarify earlier. 02:36:03
Right. It's where you have the oars on the top of the library and then for is that the Symphony? 02:36:07
Yes. Umm. 02:36:13
You did clarify that. 02:36:15
The difference is between those 2 exactly. 02:36:16
The Arts Commission, they were fine with either option, they said let the City Council decide how they want to. 02:36:20
Do that. 02:36:26
As far as Council discussion goes, if I can just jump into that, I would prefer that the funding goes to the library. 02:36:27
OK. Any other adjustments to this? 02:36:34
I would love to. 02:36:43
Do both kind of. 02:36:46
If we could give the one. 02:36:49
30 instead of taking me out of the Vineyard library, which is the government. 02:36:51
Operation umm. 02:36:55
The Friends of the Vineyard Library. 02:36:57
Takes donations. 02:37:00
And so if we could. 02:37:01
Take the 1:30 out of that and give it to the Symphony. 02:37:02
I'll backfill the rest. 02:37:06
If we want to do that. 02:37:08
Can I ask and? 02:37:09
Brian, chime in please, but also Ezra, share your thoughts. 02:37:11
What is the net? 02:37:16
Benefit of us giving to the Symphony. 02:37:18
Did they come and put on a show and then do they still charge us tickets and admission? 02:37:21
No, they'll put on a free show for Vineyard Days. 02:37:26
But the the main portion of this. 02:37:30
Budget is specifically to do a fanfare, so it'd be a recording. 02:37:33
That basically be a theme song for Vineyard for Vineyard events. 02:37:37
My personal thoughts and I've I've shared this. 02:37:42
Publicly before. 02:37:47
Was that? 02:37:49
I think that there's a lot of opportunity. 02:37:50
For the library to grow and what I. 02:37:53
Have. 02:37:56
Advocated for this money to be used for is to cede the. 02:37:57
Fundraising efforts. 02:38:01
And help with the. 02:38:03
I don't want to say revenue generating programs because the goal of the library isn't to generate, you know, a profit or anything 02:38:05
like that. 02:38:08
But to help implement the programs as necessary to cover the operating costs. 02:38:10
Right, for example. 02:38:16
One of the things that they're working on right now is implementing. 02:38:18
Payment essentially an annual fee for non residents. 02:38:22
To use our library card system. 02:38:26
With that, there will be expenses, things like payment processing fees. 02:38:29
So I'm I'm. 02:38:33
Interested in? 02:38:35
The allocation to support those type of efforts and then also support. 02:38:37
The Friends of Vineyard Library in their fundraising process. 02:38:41
You know I I have a question about. 02:38:46
About the library being funded at all. 02:38:48
Yeah, when we were. 02:38:50
When the previous mayor sold us on the library concept, it was going to be something that never cost the city a cent. 02:38:52
It was all we all we donated efforts. 02:39:01
And they? 02:39:03
They will use the old city, the old City Hall and torn down. 02:39:04
Use a room over there. 02:39:10
And it would be a children's library. 02:39:11
Children's books and so on and so forth. 02:39:13
OK, but we already have. 02:39:16
Four other children's libraries. 02:39:18
In the city. 02:39:20
Each of which has expressed. 02:39:23
Speaking to the. 02:39:25
Librarians and principles of the schools involved. 02:39:26
Have expressed that the. 02:39:29
I'm more than happy to to help the citizen. 02:39:31
A vineyard. 02:39:34
Whatever their library needs are. 02:39:35
And so it seems redundant. 02:39:38
To spend. 02:39:40
Not worthwhile for the city to spend money. 02:39:42
On a library system. 02:39:45
That's already built. 02:39:46
And already structured. 02:39:47
Already in place. 02:39:48
And this weren't happy to. 02:39:50
To work with us, I mean, if we have to spend some monies to. 02:39:53
To help the. 02:39:56
You know, library or libraries of choice. 02:39:57
Be able to handle. 02:40:00
You know, accepting. 02:40:01
Library cards from the, you know, from the public in general I could see that risk, but. 02:40:04
Well, why are we trying to recreate the wheel? We've already got four wheels. 02:40:08
So I think one of the. 02:40:12
I think let's. 02:40:15
Glad to ask Parker. 02:40:17
Something that I've been. 02:40:19
Looking at I've shared this with staff, I talked to the library board about it. 02:40:20
There was a lot of, I think, missed opportunity from the previous administration. 02:40:24
In recouping operating costs for the library. 02:40:29
And I don't want to say that it was. 02:40:32
You know. 02:40:35
Not to paint anyone in a negative light. 02:40:37
But action just wasn't ever taken to. 02:40:39
Make that as efficient as it could be. 02:40:42
And I see a lot of opportunity for the library to actually become truly self-sustaining. 02:40:45
And to envision that, I've met with the library board. I've met with the Friends of Vineyard Library. 02:40:50
And I think we have a pretty good. 02:40:55
Plan in place that would. 02:40:57
Essentially. 02:40:58
If implemented appropriately. 02:41:01
Significantly raised their operating budget. They just need the help to get to the point to actually be able to do that. 02:41:03
At this point. 02:41:09
Awesome. 02:41:11
Any other comments? 02:41:12
About 10.2. 02:41:14
OK, seeing none, I will take a motion. 02:41:17
Oh, hi, Jacob. 02:41:20
I'll motion to. 02:41:23
Approve the. 02:41:25
Recommendations with with. 02:41:28
The noted adjustment to move. 02:41:29
$130.00 from the Friends of Vineyard library to. 02:41:32
The Utah Valley Symphony. 02:41:36
And I want to include it in the motion because it'll just be a personal donation, so. 02:41:38
OK. All right. 02:41:44
Do I have a second? 02:41:46
OK. Sorry, hold on. 02:41:50
You said you were going to make a personal donation to. 02:41:52
Recoup the. 02:41:54
Money that. 02:41:55
Advocating to pull out. Why wouldn't you just donate it to the Symphony then? 02:41:56
I don't know how to donate to the Symphony but OK. 02:42:00
So. 02:42:04
That wasn't part of the motion. 02:42:06
So the motion is. 02:42:07
Holy smokes, tonight is a. 02:42:09
All right, one more time is there. 02:42:12
Somebody. 02:42:14
Yes, fund the recommendations as is with. 02:42:16
Moving 130 from the Friends of the Vineyard Library. 02:42:18
The nonprofit that'll have the donation like that, I've got. 02:42:21
To the Utah. 02:42:24
Awesome, do I have a second? 02:42:26
2nd. 02:42:28
All right. All in favor, aye. 02:42:28
Aye, aye. Motion passes. 02:42:31
OK guys, we're getting stuff done tonight. Two things. One, now that is in motion. 02:42:35
Thank you, Short and sweet 2. It's a resolution. This is a resolution that is right. So let's do a roll call. Council member 02:42:39
Mccumber votes aye. 02:42:43
Councilman of Wood votes aye. 02:42:49
This is the same thing. Same vote. Yeah. Same vote. Yeah. It's a it's a resolution. The race is yes. 02:42:52
OK, Councilman Renair. 02:42:58
Yes, yes. 02:43:01
Great. Yeah. 02:43:02
All righty 10.3. 02:43:04
Creation of an event committee and off. 02:43:08
Authorization. 02:43:10
For the committee to establish a nonprofit. 02:43:12
DK do you want to? David Child, do you want to? 02:43:15
Explain this real quick the thought behind. 02:43:18
This yes so. 02:43:20
This. 02:43:22
What what this will do? 02:43:23
Is this full? 02:43:25
Create a nonprofit where? 02:43:27
Volunteers from our city. 02:43:31
Can raise funds for Vineyard events. 02:43:34
And. 02:43:37
Vineyard. 02:43:38
Projects that will benefit the community. 02:43:40
And it will also establish a committee under the direction of the City Council. 02:43:43
To administrate. 02:43:47
Awesome. 02:43:51
Any questions for David Kyle? 02:43:52
OK, sorry I didn't say. 02:43:55
Is there a backup document on this or is that just the broad direction would be? 02:43:57
Did they not get the back of that? 02:44:01
OK. 02:44:05
It should be on there. 02:44:07
I got some of those angry emails about parking in here. 02:44:10
There's even more. 02:44:19
If we get an e-mail, we put it in your packet. 02:44:24
Thank you for that. 02:44:26
OK. 02:44:28
I don't see. 02:44:31
Is it in my resolution funding? No, it's not electronic. 02:44:32
I'd like to get that. Would you like to put it on the screens? 02:44:37
How long is it? 02:44:45
Oh, go ahead. Oh, it's not online to you. 02:44:46
That's the. 02:44:49
I don't know why the creation of this Commission. 02:44:52
What's that? 02:44:56
Are you tying any funding to the creation of this Commission? No. 02:44:57
Is it a? 02:45:03
Continual Commission in the sense that it will operate 365 days a year, or is it? 02:45:05
Exclusive maybe springtime through Vineyard days each year. It will help facilitate all Vineyard events. OK. 02:45:10
So all year. 02:45:18
I'm supportive of the concept. Could we maybe just continue this to the next week meeting so we can? 02:45:22
Have the backup. 02:45:26
So that. 02:45:27
He's gonna pull it up. 02:45:28
Yeah, that's what he's trying to do right now. 02:45:29
OK. Can we take public comment on it? 02:45:33
Yes, well, it's here we go. I guess it's right here. 02:45:35
We've had plenty of problems. 02:45:41
You can't say that you're the mayor. 02:45:47
I'm inclusive in all decisions. 02:45:50
Not made it. 02:45:56
I'm sorry. OK, let me. 02:46:00
Ninja. 02:46:02
Please. 02:46:12
He's gone again. 02:46:28
I don't read that fast. 02:46:34
Staggered terms for two or four years. 02:46:39
Chair. 02:46:43
OK, so this is like an official. 02:46:45
What's the advisory? Is it advisory? 02:46:48
Can I get a week on this? 02:46:51
Is there? 02:46:52
Is there code? 02:46:53
Associated with the creation of this that's. 02:46:54
Is it in this packet? We just haven't got to it yet. 02:46:56
This I mean this resolution creates the. 02:46:59
Commission, OK. 02:47:02
We already have. We already have code for. I think it would be. 02:47:06
I think it would be. 02:47:11
You know, being that we're going to have a merge, a special session next Tuesday, it would work to. 02:47:12
Move this Tuesday. 02:47:19
That is special in the sense that it's outside the regular, it's outside of the regular schedule. I already planned my vacation. 02:47:21
Yeah, if. 02:47:29
If there's not an immediate urgency for this there, there is an emergency. 02:47:31
Because we'd like to use it for. 02:47:35
For Vineyard days coming up, however, we could, do you know, another week for work Tuesday? Yes, Yes, exactly. Yes, fine. 02:47:37
We don't. We don't need it tonight, but we don't need it in a month. 02:47:44
Understood. OK. 02:47:47
Did you have? 02:47:49
I would like public comment. 02:47:50
To ask if it could be. 02:47:53
Yeah, I agree with that. I agree to move it. 02:47:56
I think it would be a great idea, David. So could you make a motion, Ezra? I will move to continue this one week second. 02:47:59
All in favor. 02:48:05
Aye. 02:48:06
Awesome. 02:48:08
Jump to the. 02:48:09
That's it, Don. 02:48:12
No, hey, we got the travel policy. 02:48:13
Oh, we went out of order. 02:48:16
Yes, we did. 02:48:17
OK oh, travel policy. I'm so glad I got a pen out of this meeting. 02:48:18
So on the travel policy, I know. 02:48:27
I know we had a lot of comments in the work session. 02:48:30
Did all those get on there because. 02:48:33
One was. 02:48:37
35 miles on the 50. I thought we wanted to try to standardize that, but. 02:48:38
I think all the other comments got on there. 02:48:42
Yeah, I think we still need to adjust the. 02:48:46
Was it the language and the resolution or the language in the just the actual policy itself I think was the issue. Is it just 02:48:51
standardization of like the the miles? 02:48:55
Just making sure reconciling I believe it was. 02:48:59
It was 50 miles. 02:49:03
Like we had the, we talked about it last week, but you've got. 02:49:05
You know, approval for anything beyond 50 miles. But then we have like. 02:49:09
You could get. 02:49:14
Nighttime or what was the 35 miles to the local travel or? 02:49:15
The other one. 02:49:20
Yeah, we just want to make sure that the wording was right, yeah. 02:49:21
OK, I didn't like read through and make sure all the red lines got adopted, but I just saw that one in there and that was like, 02:49:24
oh. 02:49:28
Yeah, sorry. I might have been working with the order draft of that. 02:49:31
Packet so. 02:49:35
Our goal is to get. 02:49:40
Is to try and get at least a few of these each month. A few of these. 02:49:41
Policies in place so we can picking them off 1 by 1, taking them off one at a time so we can pass our next audit. 02:49:45
OK. 02:49:52
We're super close on this. I mean, I feel like a work session. We all kind of. 02:49:57
We're on the same page. 02:50:01
Can we just get? 02:50:02
Any public comment if the public has any comments and then approve it on consent on. 02:50:04
Next Tuesday if we need to do that. 02:50:08
Just to make sure all the edits got an error. 02:50:10
If we can go through that, it's now and make sure yeah, I just I just read it and I think this looks. 02:50:12
Fine, I didn't see anything. That's a red flag to me now. 02:50:17
You want to. We can read it together. 02:50:20
But I'm happy to continue it. If you want to continue it and take more public comment on it, you know what, let's just approve it 02:50:22
and then just. 02:50:25
Clean it up so like take the brackets out since we already decided that. 02:50:28
Put it all in. 02:50:31
The standard language and you guys can make those. 02:50:32
Sounds good technical, and it's something Lizzie kind of like approved with the edits made during the last. There we go. 02:50:35
Awesome. 02:50:41
Can I get a motion? 02:50:42
I move to approve Resolution number 202618, a resolution adopting travel and expense reimbursement policy for personnel and 02:50:44
authorized representatives with. 02:50:49
The edits and clarifications that we made in the previous City Council meeting. 02:50:54
Awesome. Thank you. Awesome. 02:51:00
All in favor. 02:51:02
Aye, OK. 02:51:04
That's a resolution, so we'll call. 02:51:06
Councilmember. 02:51:09
Parker Mccumber votes aye. 02:51:10
Would votes aye? 02:51:12
Aye. 02:51:15
Awesome. 02:51:16
Aye, resolution passes. 02:51:17
OK. So the last is going to be department appointment of? 02:51:19
The Planning Commission appointment. 02:51:23
We have a empty seat in our Planning Commission. 02:51:25
And uh. 02:51:28
I AM. 02:51:29
Asking. 02:51:34
That we appoint Daria. 02:51:34
Evans to fulfill that vacancy. 02:51:37
So moved. 02:51:41
2nd. 02:51:42
All in favor. 02:51:43
Aye, aye. 02:51:45
Wait, hold on, is this a? This is a consent of the. 02:51:46
This one does not need a. 02:51:52
Awesome. 02:51:56
Congratulations, welcome. Thank you for your willingness to serve. 02:51:57
Sure. Appreciate it. 02:52:00
OK. All right. That's all we have. I think that's all we have for tonight. 02:52:02
And. 02:52:06
Yeah, that's right. Where are you in tonight? Please talk to us about how you're going to. 02:52:10
No. 02:52:17
So yes, let me make sure I have the wording right, because as many times as I do it, I'll forget it once. 02:52:21
While you're pulling that up, if I could just have a. 02:52:28
Point of. 02:52:30
Privilege. 02:52:32
Thank you all for the discussion tonight. 02:52:34
I know things. 02:52:36
He did it and I'm bummed that everybody left before they got to see us. 02:52:38
Cordially getting business done as well. 02:52:42
But I I've. 02:52:44
I've got no. 02:52:45
Personal animus towards anyone. 02:52:47
I respect all of our our council members and. 02:52:49
I know there's mutual respect there and. 02:52:52
Just grateful to to serve on this on this board and what these great people and residents that are. 02:52:55
Engaged, involved and. 02:53:00
So thank you so much for. 02:53:01
Being here and. 02:53:03
Participating. 02:53:04
Thank you. 02:53:05
All right, we have the. 02:53:06
Come on up here, let's get a picture of are you guys. 02:53:09
Yeah. 02:53:15
Please right hand for me. 02:53:25
OK. 02:53:28
OK, let's get in the background. 02:53:30
This is so awesome. Make sure you get the wording right here. 02:53:37
Yeah, no pressure, right? 02:53:41
All right, let's go ahead and repeat after me. I state your name. 02:53:43
Aria Evans. 02:53:46
Hi, Maria Evans. 02:53:47
Having been appointed. 02:53:49
Having been appointed to the Planning Commission to the Planning Commission. 02:53:51
Do solemnly swear. 02:53:54
To. 02:53:57
Support, obey, and defend. 02:54:01
Support, obey, and defend. 02:54:03
The Constitution of the United States, the Constitution of the United States, and the Constitution of the State of Utah. 02:54:05
And the constitution of the State of Utah, and then I will discharge the duties. 02:54:10
And then I will just start discharge the duties of my office. 02:54:14
With Fidelity. 02:54:18
Outstanding. 02:54:20
The pressure on you. 02:54:26
Thanks so much. 02:54:34
Thank you. Thank. 02:54:36
Thank you, Jacob. Thank you. 02:54:39
Whenever I get to that song. 02:54:41
It doesn't count until he hits the gavel. 02:54:52
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Event transcript
Let me all right, let me try one more time. 00:02:46
OK. I think I have you coming in loud and clear. Thank you, Sir. 00:02:53
Alrighty guys, it is March 24th, 60. What do we got Tony? Is it 601? 00:10:52
All right, I am Mayor Zach Stratton and we are going to start with the Vineyard City Council meeting. 00:10:58
I am going to turn the time over to Councilman Mccumber here to give us our opening prayer and Pledge of Allegiance, and we will 00:11:03
jump into it. 00:11:06
Our dear heavenly Father. 00:11:15
We thank me so much for this beautiful day. 00:11:17
We're able to come together as a community. 00:11:20
And engage in our civic process. 00:11:23
We ask. 00:11:26
Very plainly. 00:11:28
For your hand. 00:11:31
In guiding us and helping us make wise decisions and to serve this community. 00:11:32
I want to express my gratitude. 00:11:37
For the position that you've. 00:11:39
And trusted us in. 00:11:41
To allow us to. 00:11:43
Come before our community in an effort. 00:11:44
To serve them. 00:11:46
And I would very much appreciate. 00:11:49
Your guidance and support. 00:11:51
As we continue to. 00:11:53
Strive. 00:11:54
In that endeavor. 00:11:55
Can I say this in the name of Jesus Christ? In it Amen. 00:11:56
Would you please recite with me? 00:12:06
I pledge allegiance to the flag. 00:12:08
Of the United States of America. 00:12:10
And to the Republic for which it stands. 00:12:12
One nation under God. 00:12:15
OK. Thank you so much. And Parker, you get a. 00:12:23
Way to go buddy. 00:12:29
Where that American flag? 00:12:30
Loud and proud. 00:12:32
OK, we're going to jump into the Mayors report 4.1. 00:12:33
A little bit of an explanation kind of what's been happening for the business community. This is me. 00:12:38
And the residents of Vineyard as well. 00:12:42
In December of last year, there was a fee added called a Toughie Transportation Utility Fee. 00:12:44
And the intent of that was to. 00:12:49
Help in some Rd. projects and stuff like that. Ongoing expense that the city had. 00:12:53
The net effect of that, though, is that the tough fee. 00:12:58
Really. In a? In a? 00:13:01
Non capitalistic way maybe that's a good way to say it really hammered our business community. Some of some of our local 00:13:05
businesses on the North End of town the industrials were charging. 00:13:09
5000 Seven, $1000 a month. 00:13:13
Which was more than their. 00:13:16
Their monthly rent. 00:13:17
So we've been, I've been working hard with Evan, with. 00:13:18
Trying to see what we could do to limit that fee and change it up. 00:13:21
What we've settled on is I feel pretty comfortable in. 00:13:24
In eliminating that fee. 00:13:27
And the thought is we're going to go through the budget process maybe a year or two and look at look at what we. 00:13:30
If we can find that revenue in other places. 00:13:35
But. 00:13:39
The intent was I was going to sign an executive order, but since it's a utility fee and a transportation fee, we're gonna have to 00:13:40
bring that to council next week to lower that or even eliminate it. So we're gonna get Jesse to work on the language for that, and 00:13:43
we're gonna have another. 00:13:47
City Council meeting. 00:13:52
Next week to get that taken care of. 00:13:53
But. 00:13:55
This is uh uh. 00:13:55
It's been a. 00:13:56
You know this this fee again. 00:13:59
We just want businesses out there in the community to recognize, hey vineyards, a place we want you come. 00:14:02
We want to grow with us and we want to make sure that there's good alignment. 00:14:06
Between uh. 00:14:09
Our tax code and the fee structure and. 00:14:11
In a way that will invite the the business committee to invest their dollars here and come and grow with us. So. 00:14:14
That's that's my report right there on that. 00:14:19
I've got 5.1. We have a presentation. 00:14:22
We have a. 00:14:26
Zach Beatty, Our. 00:14:27
Recreation Manager is good. 00:14:28
Is and I assume that the. 00:14:30
You are PA folks are here here. Awesome. 00:14:33
I'll have you guys come up and kind of explain this is what it is and. 00:14:35
How awesome Zach is and how lucky we are to have him. 00:14:38
We love our rec program here in Vineyard and does a great job so. 00:14:41
Thank you. 00:14:44
Let's go there, yeah. 00:14:45
Thank you, Mayor and Council. My name is Kevin Schmidt. I'm the executive director for the Okra Recreation Parks District. 00:14:49
Up in the Salt Lake. 00:14:55
County area. 00:14:56
And I'm the president of Europe A. 00:14:57
I'm Michael Christensen. I'm the Assistant Executive Director for URPA. 00:15:00
Thank you for giving us. 00:15:05
Some time today. 00:15:06
URPA, which stands for Utah Recreation and Parks Association, represents about 2000. 00:15:08
Park and Rec. 00:15:14
Professionals in the state of Utah. 00:15:15
And those are the people that are consistently working behind the scenes. 00:15:18
To make. 00:15:22
Your community better. 00:15:23
I I want you to picture Vineyard. 00:15:27
Without. 00:15:30
Parks and Recreation. 00:15:31
Without any parts, without playgrounds, with children playing on them. 00:15:32
Without sports programs. 00:15:36
And uh. 00:15:38
I I think we can all agree that that is not the kind of community that. 00:15:38
We would want to live in. 00:15:43
Your your park and rec team and and. 00:15:47
Others throughout the state. 00:15:50
Work tirelessly to. 00:15:51
Make sure that these. 00:15:53
Programs and events happen. 00:15:55
They do a lot more than just manage facilities and organized sports programs. 00:15:59
Their work helps to shape. 00:16:04
The kind of community that people want to actually live in. 00:16:07
So thank you to. 00:16:10
You mayor and council for supporting. 00:16:13
The Park and Rec. 00:16:15
Department in your city. 00:16:16
I'm going to turn the time over to Mikel to present. 00:16:19
Awesome. We are so excited to be here tonight and thanks so much for having us. We actually get to recognize two of your 00:16:23
outstanding Parks and Recreation professionals. The first one is actually Ben King. 00:16:28
Ben has been part of our URPA Leadership Academy for the last 12 months. So thank you for your support and him doing that. 00:16:33
Basically what that entailed was him going to other agencies across the state for the last 12 months and learning all he could 00:16:38
from that. So he has graduated from that program. And so we just want to recognize that he has done that. So have him come up in 00:16:43
just a second. And then the second profession I already mentioned, Zach. 00:16:49
Every year we solicit nominations for awards for different categories throughout the state. One of those categories is Outstanding 00:16:54
Professional. We recognize that in a variety of capacities, recreation, Aquatics, different things like that. This year we had 00:17:00
over 100 applicants for those various awards and Zach was selected for our Young Professional of the Year. So if you know Zach, 00:17:06
you know he has a huge passion for working in Parks and Recreation. 00:17:11
Does really well at giving back to his community and since he started here in Vineyard a short time ago. 00:17:17
It's our understanding that your guys's programs and races and different community events have grown exponentially, and so we're 00:17:22
just super thrilled for him and the work he's doing. 00:17:26
He's very involved with URPA. He is. 00:17:31
In our central region, he is actually the elect to be the president of that region. So we just want to thank you guys for 00:17:33
supporting him and supporting Parks and Recreation throughout Utah, being a great example of what communities can build. 00:17:38
And yeah, just thanks Vineyard, and thanks to Zach and Ben. 00:17:44
Awesome, I'll have them come up and grab this. 00:17:48
Awesome. 00:17:51
Let's give a round of applause. Let it go, guys. 00:17:53
Do you want to should we jump in a picture with them? Let's get a picture with these guys. This is actually this is way cool more 00:17:58
so. 00:18:00
Yes. 00:18:03
Brian come up. Yeah, Brian's got to be in the engineer. Brian's really cool too. 00:18:07
Yeah. 00:18:10
Next year. 00:18:14
Hello. There we go. OK, ready. 00:18:17
OK, ready 12. 00:18:30
Thanks. Perfect. 00:18:32
All righty. 00:18:51
Let's jump now to I had public comments here, but. 00:18:53
Let me. 00:18:56
Raise your hand up here to talk about you have a public comment. 00:18:57
OK, let's do this. 00:19:01
I assume without parking I'm going to take a wild guess. 00:19:02
OK. Let's go through a couple other things. We'll kind of get closer to that so we can have the. 00:19:06
The public comment and all that more. 00:19:10
In a little more. 00:19:12
Coherent manner. 00:19:14
OK, so I'm going to turn the time we're gonna we need to move into a public hearing now. 00:19:15
To go over the Forest development agreement and the IHC development agreement. 00:19:18
Can I get a motion for that? 00:19:21
So moved I second. 00:19:24
All in favor. 00:19:29
Aye. Motion passes. 00:19:31
We're going to turn the time over to cash. 00:19:33
The lead out in this session, go ahead. Thank you for your time. 00:19:35
Once this opens up here I have the Forge and Intermountain Healthcare. I have a single presentation here because these. 00:19:39
Development agreements are. 00:19:46
Pretty tied together. 00:19:47
And so we do have Ryan with representing Intermountain Health and then Jason representing 6th Rich Partners, formerly Dakota 00:19:49
Pacific. 00:19:52
On this these development agreements so. 00:19:56
Quick background here on the Forge, this is in 2024. There was a development agreement signed by the City Council. 00:19:59
With six rich partners. 00:20:06
To allow them to build but they. 00:20:08
There were some requirements about like a regionally significant entertainment anchor. 00:20:11
Anyways, it's a 45 acre development. 00:20:16
That includes in around. 00:20:19
Healthcare property. 00:20:20
They currently have 1100 residential units permitted. This development agreement does not change that number, does not increase 00:20:21
it. 00:20:24
And it does require this this DA required that this regionally significant entertainment use. 00:20:27
Was part of the first phase. 00:20:33
And so we've been working. Here's a map to kind of show you outlined in red is, is the proposed 6 rich partners the 4th project 00:20:35
And then in blue would be Intermountain Health if, if these development agreements go through currently. 00:20:41
And around only. 00:20:48
Owns the southern parcel. 00:20:49
So. 00:20:51
Let me go to. 00:20:55
Here's the request that that they're looking for here, and this is specifically for the Forge. 00:20:56
They've been having a difficult time landing a regionally significant entertainment anchor. 00:21:01
And So what they're. 00:21:06
Trying to propose here is to. 00:21:07
Bring in their first phase 40,000 square feet of. 00:21:09
Commercial. 00:21:13
Which would then allow them to. 00:21:14
Move on to build the residential. 00:21:16
And it would also relocate the first phase and the the regionally significant anchor if I go back to this map here. 00:21:18
It would move the commercial block to the the northwest corner of Vineyard Connector and Mill Rd. 00:21:24
So that's where they build this commercial space, and then they'd move the entertainment anchor. 00:21:30
Further South on Mill Rd. 00:21:34
Whereas currently it requires the entertainment to be on the corner in commercial. 00:21:36
Little bit further shell. 00:21:40
Last week we did have a Planning Commission. They they did recommend approval of this development agreement. 00:21:45
The other thing to note is the Planning Commission would be come the. 00:21:50
Approval body for the entertainment anchor the the IT has a very specific language in our code on what? 00:21:54
This anchor must be and it's up to the Planning Commission. Previously, they did approve a climbing gym. 00:22:00
To be the thinker. There there were. 00:22:05
Installed in those negotiations. So that's not coming about anymore. 00:22:06
But it would continue to let the Planning Commission be that approval body. 00:22:10
And then the last thing is roadway and utilities as they were built, I believe in 2018. 00:22:13
Our city engineering department just wants to make sure that this roadway and the utilities going to the site are not going to be. 00:22:19
Heavily impacted and they'll. 00:22:25
You know, be able to be used in these city roads like 650 N that borders the yard and the forge. 00:22:26
Is built back to its its current state before construction. 00:22:33
And then we we did update the development agreement with our. 00:22:37
New language for impact fees to make sure that impact fees are calculated at the time of building permit. 00:22:41
If we want, we could take a break there and. 00:22:46
If there's any questions about the forge specifically, we can go over those or I can fly through and let's do that. Council. Any 00:22:49
questions on the Forge development agreement? 00:22:53
Did they have any concerns about the entertainment acre being in the phase one? I know. 00:22:57
Previously they were having some trouble. 00:23:03
Like getting the development off the ground because of that. Yeah. So this would move the entertainment anchor to not be the phase 00:23:04
one anymore. This would be the the new phase one is 40,000 square feet of retail commercial space on that corner and the anytime 00:23:09
they could bring that that entertainment anchor. 00:23:13
You know, one comes from the day we want to build that. They could go for it, but. 00:23:18
Essentially they they're saying they need to get this commercial and residential going before they can get. 00:23:22
Movement on this. 00:23:27
Entertainment if no. 00:23:29
If no. 00:23:31
And then it comes forward before that. 00:23:33
You know, before they build all those things, what what phases that came in. 00:23:35
The entertainment anchor the entertainment it would just be. 00:23:38
After phase one, anything after phase one, I see. So there's no guarantee we'll ever get it then? 00:23:41
So the the development agreement still outlines a block and acreage that is required for the. 00:23:46
I can go back to this map here. 00:23:51
Is there anything they cannot get pool pool permits for or anything be? 00:23:53
Unless that. 00:23:57
No, so they could pull everything out first. 00:23:58
That's the last thing I felt her hands and gosh, we're sorry. Couldn't do it. 00:24:01
Yeah, essentially they, I mean they, they would not, they have to reserve that. 00:24:04
Many acres of land for the entertainment use so they could. 00:24:07
Nothing gets built there. 00:24:10
But potentially. But in return we are getting 40,000 square feet of. 00:24:12
The the retail commercial space. 00:24:15
So that's essentially the trade off. They're saying here's right now, we can't land this this. 00:24:17
Anchor so if we want to get moving with development. 00:24:21
We need to bring in something else 1st and that's where we've been talking and landed on 40,000 square feet of. 00:24:24
Of commercial space. 00:24:30
Also, when we swap the land from the. 00:24:31
Entertainment maker from the north to the South? Sure. 00:24:34
Do we have the same amount of land in both? 00:24:37
Both no SO. 00:24:39
The the original. 00:24:41
Development agreement language. 00:24:42
Just outlined I think it said four point something 4.7 acres which is that entire block and and no entertainment anchor would 00:24:43
actually take up that entire space. 00:24:47
And so it was just. 00:24:52
The the new language says 3 point something acres. 00:24:53
Just to essentially outline the southern block. 00:24:57
But something like the we had the the Momentum climbing gym, they were approved. 00:25:00
They were nowhere near the you know, 3. 00:25:03
Or 4 acre project, but we did determine that they were regionally significant enough. 00:25:06
And it wasn't necessarily the size, it's more of the impact and are people coming from outside of Vineyard to Vineyard to spend 00:25:11
their money here? 00:25:14
That's essentially what we're looking at with this anchor. 00:25:17
I'm very much interested in having this this land developed and then getting the. 00:25:22
I didn't. I really. I really AM. 00:25:26
But I'm also concerned that. 00:25:27
We've had many promises. 00:25:29
For this piece of land. 00:25:31
Over the last couple of decades. 00:25:32
And nothing is there yet. 00:25:34
And we've always, there's always a reason and we come across this. 00:25:36
This problem or that problem? 00:25:39
And so I'm. 00:25:41
I'm just not comfortable. 00:25:43
Hold, you know, leaving that to the very end because that's something they can put off to the end. That's worked well. 00:25:45
It's not financially peaceful at the. 00:25:51
They can do like they've done for the last 10 years and not build anything. 00:25:53
It might be worth having Jason speak to their their efforts in in trying to attract regionally significant anchor. They they 00:25:56
definitely have have been trying over the last few years. 00:26:01
And I don't know. 00:26:06
If you want to hear from him. 00:26:07
Yeah. Jason, do you want to kind of review that? Please come on up. 00:26:08
If you set your name in the mic, that'd be awesome. 00:26:12
Jason Head with six Bridge partners and. 00:26:15
Thank you for having me here today. Thanks for coming. 00:26:17
This might be obvious, but. 00:26:22
Land we can't build on doesn't do us any good for developers and we want to build. 00:26:23
All of this land. 00:26:27
We intend to find. 00:26:29
Regionally significant anchor. 00:26:31
For this site and and for the community. 00:26:33
It's just a much, much bigger hurdle than it is for us to. 00:26:36
Find tenants for 40,000 square feet of Upscale. 00:26:41
Retail that will have. 00:26:44
Boutique restaurants and soft goods and things that really. 00:26:47
Energized. 00:26:50
This corner, especially this. 00:26:52
This corner is going to be a big demand for those types of users. 00:26:54
So we absolutely continue to work on. 00:26:58
Originally significant anchor. 00:27:01
Some of the challenges we face are. 00:27:02
You know many. 00:27:05
Frankly, rely on. 00:27:06
Alcohol sales and that's been a tough hurdle to educate. 00:27:08
Some groups on. 00:27:12
We did have a climbing gym. Who? 00:27:14
Frankly, took it to their board and then backed out at the last minute and that was just. 00:27:15
Mostly, I think a timing we intend to. 00:27:19
Reignite those. 00:27:23
Conversations with that user. 00:27:24
But we're still very bullish. 00:27:27
That user, it's just. 00:27:29
It it's holding up development of. 00:27:32
All of that acreage. 00:27:34
So how many pages are there in the new agreement? 00:27:36
Here's the phase one or the phase two lasting phase three. How many phases? 00:27:39
Well, I think there's just. 00:27:44
Yeah. We, we initially just have phase one. This is saying. 00:27:46
Before you can build anything else, you need to build phase one. 00:27:49
Outside of that. 00:27:52
Once you, you know. 00:27:53
Built that phase you can build. 00:27:54
Whatever else. 00:27:56
So the trigger is we we have to have at least 20,000 square feet of that retail under construction before we can pull a permit on 00:27:59
any residential units. 00:28:03
I think my issue is is that. 00:28:09
Originally we did a trade off of density. Like lots of density in exchange. I mean, it was a whole package, right? 00:28:11
So not guaranteeing the entertainment you start getting the density. 00:28:18
So what would you be willing to trade? Because we're giving up a really big. 00:28:22
This is going to have a great regional attraction there. 00:28:26
Are you willing to give up some density for that? Because you're getting all of the good but? 00:28:29
What are we getting in exchange? 00:28:34
You're getting tax revenue sooner. 00:28:36
Right. And I get that, but like the the anger from all the citizens was the amount of density that you were given with us. 00:28:38
I I will speak up on that just briefly. 00:28:46
The the original or the development agreement was signed in in 2024. There there was no trade off then of the density. No, I know 00:28:48
I'm saying originally. 00:28:52
Right, that's what I'm saying is the regional entertainment anchor that became a novel a requirement as of 2024 with no increased 00:28:56
identity. 00:29:00
I'm going back years, right. So about accountability going, but that's what is that was a new idea was to bring this regional 00:29:04
incident significant but there were other trade-offs in that whole package as I look back through the contracts. 00:29:10
That's what I'm saying is like, this is a big carry on top. 00:29:16
And it's like. 00:29:18
I get that we want businesses and it is. You're right, you don't want it to stop and we need to lower taxes. But. 00:29:19
I see the citizens coming and saying, OK, we're not going to get that, but the. 00:29:25
Density stays the same. 00:29:29
Point of clarification. 00:29:30
From what I understand about this proposal, this this change of the development agreement, it's not is it getting rid of the 00:29:31
entertainment district completely? No, it you know, it keeps it, it's just a it's a phasing, OK, Yeah, it's just a phasing issue 00:29:36
where the guarantee that it takes away the yes, the guarantee. So it's like can we put in some sort of guarantee that if it 00:29:40
doesn't come. 00:29:45
The last phase you can't build the residential until X, so at least it's. 00:29:50
On the sour end side of things that people don't like, it goes OK. 00:29:55
Before you build this residential I would at least like that type of trade off. 00:30:00
Something that pushes it to. 00:30:04
To maintain the fighting because of it all. 00:30:06
Fills out. You just have one remnant law, and I know what that means. It means coming back to the Council and changing it to 00:30:08
something else. 00:30:11
You know, you have to understand, we really do. 00:30:16
We want to understand, we want it to be built redo. 00:30:19
We have been burned a lot in the past. 00:30:22
And we might not be burned again. 00:30:24
Sure, I mean the the density overall. 00:30:26
Hasn't changed, it's just the sequencing. 00:30:30
I mean, in fact, we're also making other. 00:30:33
Concessions here. I mean, there's the language in the original. 00:30:36
DA can be interpreted that. 00:30:39
Impact fees are based on when they. 00:30:42
Development agreement was originally executed not based on. 00:30:44
Then in place. 00:30:47
Impacts when we were. 00:30:50
When we pull permits. 00:30:51
And that has been cleaned up in this agreement as well. So now. 00:30:53
Exposed to a higher level of impact. Positive, yeah. 00:30:56
Yeah. Any other questions? 00:30:59
On this one. 00:31:02
OK, should we jump into? 00:31:03
Yeah. Thank you very much. 00:31:07
Thank you. 00:31:10
OK. So Intermountain Health, they're looking to consolidate the existing. 00:31:10
Lot that they have with the corner of Geneva and Vineyard Connector. So going back to here. 00:31:14
And we can see that they are. 00:31:18
Wanting those two lots if you want, and in doing so. 00:31:20
It will remove the the eastern connection of Cauldron Rd. So that's one thing in the development agreement they don't want to have 00:31:23
to have their their project be. 00:31:26
Bisected by that road. 00:31:30
It does require an iconic architectural feature at the corner of. 00:31:34
Of Vineyard Connector in Geneva we as staff, we felt that this is a very important gateway for the community and. 00:31:37
And the design standards of the forge were very strict and would have required a very iconic building to be built there, but with 00:31:42
Intermountain Health wanting to do a clinic or a hospital. 00:31:47
That kind of changes that. And so we have language here that says that they have to. 00:31:52
Develop that corner in an iconic way that will come through approval at site. 00:31:56
Find application time. 00:32:00
It changes to allow medical use throughout the site. 00:32:02
As of right now, I don't believe it's a permitted use. 00:32:06
It includes modifications to the FMU. So that's the Forge mixed-use design guidelines. The forge is its own special. 00:32:10
Zoning district that has very strict design guidelines on. 00:32:17
Have a building fronts the road on where the parking is located. 00:32:20
But after discussions with Intermountain Health. 00:32:24
We've determined that this is a hospital and this is one of those things where function should be over form and we want to make 00:32:27
sure that they can operate. 00:32:30
Smoothly as a hospital and people are able to get the care that they need. 00:32:34
When they need it. 00:32:37
And so it has those modifications and then as well as the roadway utilities and. 00:32:39
Impact fee changes to the development agreement. 00:32:43
So that is. 00:32:47
It from the. 00:32:48
The mountain Health. 00:32:49
Awesome, any questions from council on IHC? 00:32:50
DA amendments. 00:32:54
Are we collecting all impact fees live? They're not something that was tied in years ago. 00:32:56
So that's the updated language. We've worked with Jesse Riddle on on updating the language that says at the time of building 00:33:02
permit. 00:33:05
Is when we will calculate impact fees. 00:33:08
So if I see losing. 00:33:11
That means that there will be like there'll be a non profit that we won't ever get. 00:33:14
Sales tax rate, Income tax. 00:33:18
Property tax them, is that right? 00:33:21
I might yield to Jason or to Ryan to answer that. 00:33:22
Now we won't get in. 00:33:27
Hey, Sir. 00:33:31
Ryan Wallace, representing Intermittent. 00:33:32
Intermountain Healthcare. I'm not a tax attorney so I'm not entirely sure, but I do believe that's. 00:33:34
That would be correct. It's at least as it relates to real property taxes, Um. 00:33:40
If they have a. 00:33:45
Businesses and clinics that operate out of the medical office buildings those. 00:33:48
Activities may be taxed. 00:33:52
Once again, I'm not entirely sure how that. 00:33:54
That works. 00:33:56
But yeah, it wouldn't be taxed at the same level. 00:33:57
As if it were retail or other commercial. 00:34:00
I thank you. 00:34:05
Thank you. I mean no disrespect to your project. 00:34:06
With this question but. 00:34:10
Because other products come and say they're going to be built like. 00:34:13
Are you building like you're ready to go build now? 00:34:16
Or is it are you? Is this a phase thing like in two or three years? 00:34:19
Yeah, and it. 00:34:22
It'll be phased. Umm. 00:34:23
They have the current property which would limit it just to clinic space. 00:34:25
They're expanding it so that we have the flexibility to do medical office clinics based and potentially later a hospital. 00:34:30
So this. 00:34:37
Because we currently own that southern property. 00:34:38
Don't own the northern property and that's really since we haven't acquired the property and we're still. 00:34:41
Determining feasibility. There's still work that would need to be done to design and then build. 00:34:46
But I do know that that's part of their long term plan for the property, hence them wanting to get additional property so that 00:34:52
they could do not just the the potential medical office building or clinic, but. 00:34:57
Potentially more. 00:35:02
OK. This isn't a question. Thanks. I don't have a question. 00:35:03
If it ends up not happening, what does it do? Revert back? 00:35:07
If they don't end up building, if yeah they the cell doesn't end up going through after the study or whatnot, does it? Does the 00:35:11
zoning stay the same? 00:35:15
I mean it would be their their ownership and the development would be signed and reported, right? But what if what if they don't 00:35:19
buy? Is this pendant on sell? 00:35:22
I am not sure on that. 00:35:27
Yeah, we can. We can make it that way if the. 00:35:29
That's what the city wants is. 00:35:32
But I can tell you this was kind of the last bit and then our money is hard and then we'll be purchasing within weeks after it, 00:35:34
so. 00:35:37
Yeah, I I just It's not you again. I have a room full of Washtenaw and people have broken promises. 00:35:40
I feel like you always have to ask like. 00:35:47
You know, from developers or whatnot. So. 00:35:50
I think it needs to be dependent on that. Like that it would revert back like pending on the cell. 00:35:54
Right. 00:35:58
We could work on language to add that as a condition of approval. 00:35:59
I mean, I'm not saying it wouldn't, but just. 00:36:02
So that the code goes. 00:36:04
Yeah, I am. 00:36:06
The way I do like your comment about. 00:36:08
Nonprofit. 00:36:11
Because our RDA is. 00:36:12
It's not being sold like it was, right? 00:36:15
From 25 years ago, it's not producing the tax revenue. 00:36:18
And it's not successful as what it was, right? We've already given a bunch of it to the university. It will be nonprofit. 00:36:21
And you know, and so forth and so on, and you get the. 00:36:28
At some point it does have to. 00:36:31
In the role it was designed to, which is to help us. 00:36:33
Have a sales tax base that we can. 00:36:36
That he can thrive on. 00:36:38
We appreciate very much if you'd like to go there and we'd like to have you there. 00:36:40
We just need to make sure that we can structure it so that it works for us as well. 00:36:44
Awesome. Any other questions, Comments from council? 00:36:50
OK, seeing none, I will entertain a motion. 00:36:55
It was a public hearing. I moved to public hearing. 00:37:02
Do we need to close the pull up hearing first? Do we open it already? 00:37:05
You open the public hearing, but there's been no comment yet from the public. 00:37:09
OK, Yeah. 00:37:12
Does anyone want to speak to this development agreement? 00:37:15
Yeah, I moved to close. 00:37:17
I thought we had to close it. 00:37:22
Go ahead. 00:37:27
It's OK, I'll deal with him later. 00:37:29
Thank you, Kim Cornelius Villas. 00:37:31
This has been a perpetual project. We've been in town almost five years now and. 00:37:34
For the better part of those five years, all we've heard is the board is going to be the forge is going to be developed, going to 00:37:39
be developed. 00:37:42
Major portion of that was parking and I can tell by those that are in attendance tonight, the parking is a big deal in Vineyard. 00:37:45
Can we get some kind of really quick synopsis of what this whole project including IC and? 00:37:52
And the developer of the forge. 00:37:58
Because they were talking about a parking garage. That sounded pretty good. 00:38:00
Helped mitigate some things we'd just like to know going in. 00:38:03
As they need that changed. 00:38:06
Could you give us a summary of it? 00:38:08
Awesome. Good question. 00:38:10
Another public comments. 00:38:11
OK. Who would you be able to answer that? 00:38:13
Cash or one of the. 00:38:16
I mean, this development agreement makes no changes, no increase or decrease to their parking requirements. It would take me a 00:38:18
minute to pull up the actual parking code. I imagine with Intermountain Health they're actually going to have a surplus of 00:38:22
parking. Of what? 00:38:27
The forge would have built. 00:38:31
That's one of the design guidelines that they're asking to be changed, just not be helped to the. 00:38:32
The lower count that the forge would. 00:38:37
For Intermountain. 00:38:39
It's my understanding that these are all rentals too, right? So I believe they can build. I want to say it's 1075. 00:38:40
1075 units. 00:38:46
As rentals and if they want to go to the 1100 they could do 25. 00:38:48
4 shell units. 00:38:52
OK. 00:38:54
Yeah, please come on up. 00:38:58
Jason had 6 bridge partners. 00:39:01
With the multi family 1 and Buzzy. 00:39:04
Get built. We will build. 00:39:06
Parking structures with that building permit that. 00:39:07
Accommodate adequate parking for those users and then same with the retail I mean we'll we'll. 00:39:10
Provide enough. 00:39:14
Parking per code and. 00:39:15
Maybe then some depending upon what the use ends up being. 00:39:17
OK. And real quick about that parking. 00:39:21
Last time we, last time we spoke about this in the meeting, you, you were saying that. 00:39:24
Representative, listen you, I'm not sure what. 00:39:29
OK, was saying that they would, the parking garage would be there, it would be controlled parking. 00:39:31
Every control gate and only a residence be able to park in the garage. 00:39:36
So forth. 00:39:40
That's correct. And so roughly how many? 00:39:41
You and the Do you remember how many spaces per? 00:39:44
Unit you were thinking? 00:39:46
I don't know off the top of my head. 00:39:47
OK, the code is 1.5 stalls per residential dwelling unit. 00:39:49
For every two for every two units you get 3 salts. 00:39:59
Yeah, yeah. It's just part of our calculation. So basically. 00:40:02
You know, one follow you gave us one follow you to fight for the second one. 00:40:06
This one amounts to it. 00:40:10
Yeah. 00:40:11
Public knowledge that's already grandfathered and there's nothing we can do about that. That was the previous council from five 00:40:12
years ago. 00:40:15
If we could find it, we would just say, you know. 00:40:19
But legally, we if. 00:40:23
It's agreed upon already in the contract. 00:40:24
OK. OK. Any other questions? 00:40:28
OK. Oh. 00:40:31
Come on down. 00:40:35
My name is Tyler Harrelton. 00:40:40
I don't know if this is a zoning or development agreement issue. 00:40:42
But I would love to see. 00:40:46
With this development that. 00:40:48
You don't have driveways going straight on the 800 N. 00:40:49
I think that would create a lot of conflict. I don't know if that's already part of it. 00:40:53
As an exit as all. 00:40:58
Yeah, it dumped into. Oh yeah. 00:41:00
Yeah, just so. 00:41:02
OK, awesome. 00:41:04
Any other comments? 00:41:06
OK, alrighty. 00:41:08
I will entertain an emotion. 00:41:11
Now. 00:41:13
I'll do it. I move to close the public hearing. 00:41:16
Awesome. Umm. 00:41:20
At exactly 638. 00:41:21
Perfect. 00:41:24
Do I have a second? 00:41:25
2nd but I think it's 632. 00:41:27
Oh, sorry. 00:41:30
Yeah. 00:41:32
Thank you for that clarification. All righty, all in favor. 00:41:34
Aye. Motion passes at 632. OK. 00:41:37
All right, let's umm. 00:41:42
I'll do it. We'll do a motion now on the. 00:41:45
Development agreements. 00:41:48
Can I get a motion on those? 00:41:52
I think we should separate them out, so I moved to approve and amend the development agreement of. 00:41:53
The Internet. Eminem Mountain Health at 7.2 as. 00:42:00
Presented. 00:42:04
OK, can I get a second for that? 00:42:06
2nd. 00:42:08
All in favor. 00:42:09
Aye, aye. 00:42:10
OK, motion passes, so IHC is through. 00:42:11
And now for 7.1. 00:42:14
I move to approve. 00:42:21
The forged development agreement as presented. 00:42:23
Try to 2nd on that. 00:42:27
I'll second. 00:42:29
All in favor. 00:42:30
Aye. 00:42:32
Any opposed? 00:42:33
All right, Jacob Wood comes down to you, brother. Where you at? 00:42:35
No, he came back, just he came back just to the boat. 00:42:40
All right. Would it be helpful? 00:42:44
Yes. 00:42:47
I know we're kind of in the middle of actually when we. 00:42:49
Take a box first. 00:42:52
Aye. 00:42:54
Motion. 00:42:57
Passes OK. 00:42:58
Awesome. Umm. 00:43:01
All righty, let's jump to the consent items. 00:43:01
Is there anything on these consent items that? 00:43:08
We need to pull off and put in the business items. 00:43:11
Mayor Jacob Wood. 00:43:14
Sure. Yeah, I'd like to make a motion to 8 points. 00:43:18
Takes a place to under business item as 10.4. 00:43:22
OK, so Jacob's word. 00:43:25
Has a motion to 8.6 down to. 00:43:29
Take it off. 00:43:37
OK. Anything else? 00:43:38
Public safety impact. 00:43:43
Resolutions are made. 00:43:44
That one's a good one. 00:43:47
Yeah, I think I'm good with the. 00:43:49
I'm Yep, I'm good with all of them too. 00:43:52
Alrighty, can I get a motion? 00:43:54
I move that we approve consent items 8. 00:43:56
Got one through 8.5. 00:43:58
Has listed. 00:44:01
OK, do I have a second? 00:44:02
Second, OK. 00:44:03
Remembering that some of those are resolutions the Bible. 00:44:05
OK, so let's do. 00:44:08
Let's just do 8.1 so which ones are not the resolution so we can do 8.1 and 8.2. 00:44:13
They put one they want to. 00:44:19
Yeah, there's a resolution. So let's let's. 00:44:20
Let's do April. Let's hold on 8.18.2. 00:44:22
All in favor. 00:44:25
Aye aye. Any opposed? 00:44:26
OK. All right. 00:44:28
Let's do 8.3 by roll call. Start with Ezra. 00:44:30
Aye, David, aye. 00:44:33
Jacob Wood. 00:44:35
Aye, Jake Holdaway, Aye. 00:44:37
Parker, hi. 00:44:39
Resolution passes. 00:44:41
OK, let's jump onto 8.4 by roll call. Let's start here. My say what it is just so that they know sure. 00:44:43
So 8.3 the one we just passed was the municipal Wastewater Planning program survey that we presented last week. 00:44:50
8.4 is the. 00:44:57
Redevelopment Agency audit agreement to extend the RDA or the audit. 00:44:59
Of the idea. 00:45:03
Which was discussed last week as well. 00:45:04
Already so 8.3 passes some to 8.4. Roll call Parker. 00:45:07
Hi, Jake. Hi. 00:45:11
Jacob Wood. 00:45:13
David Lurie, Aye. 00:45:16
And Ezra? 00:45:18
Aye, OK. 00:45:19
That resolution. 00:45:20
Passes 8 point. 00:45:21
4 now. 00:45:24
We're struggling with number 8.5 safety impact. 00:45:29
The last couple meetings about implementing a public safety impact fee so that we could collect funds for our law enforcement and 00:45:35
fire department with new development. 00:45:39
OK, roll call. We'll start with Ezra at this time. 00:45:45
Aye, David, aye. 00:45:48
Jake Judge. 00:45:49
Jacob Wood. 00:45:51
Jake Holdaway, hi. 00:45:52
And Parker, hi. 00:45:54
All right, passes. 00:45:56
OK, let's get to the. 00:45:57
We're going to jump down to the Planning Commission. 00:46:00
Let's do the main event. 00:46:03
Can we do the main event? Are we ready to go? OK, we will move the Planning Commission. 00:46:04
To the end. 00:46:09
And let's jump right into. 00:46:10
Public comments. 00:46:13
And I'm sure everyone wants to talk about our travel policy. 00:46:16
We're looking at. 00:46:21
.6 is that. 00:46:23
To be discussed, yes. 00:46:24
We're going to do that down. 00:46:26
The lower comments, yeah. 00:46:28
So let's jump to public comments. 00:46:31
I have. 00:46:34
Do we have more people? I have the public comments right here. 00:46:36
The list. 00:46:40
Let's do this. I will just write down the list and if you. 00:46:42
If you wanted to give a public comment and you're not on the list, this is something we should start doing this year. 00:46:44
Did everyone who wants to? 00:46:49
Publicly comment. I guess that's how you say it. 00:46:51
Did you sign the list? 00:46:53
I'll just go through it and if you're you want to say something you're not here, just raise your hand. 00:46:56
OK, so. 00:47:00
Tim Blackburn. 00:47:02
Fire away. 00:47:02
Yes, let's do what's What's a good time limit? How many you have on the? 00:47:05
12345. 00:47:11
15-2 minutes? What are two minutes? 00:47:13
Well, and if you're going to allow public comment during the. 00:47:18
Tim Blackburn, Sleepy Ridge. 00:47:22
If you're going to allow public comment at all during the time we talk about Arch, I can reserve my time until then. 00:47:23
Let's hear it now. 00:47:31
Here now OK. 00:47:32
I just want to say thank you to the members of the City Council. 00:47:34
For what we have felt to be an increase. 00:47:39
Of support and understanding. 00:47:42
About the importance of trying to. 00:47:44
Preserve and protect the heritage of Vineyard. 00:47:47
I have felt immensely. 00:47:51
Pleased with what I have seen. 00:47:55
In terms of. 00:47:58
A refreshing. 00:48:00
Of support. 00:48:02
From the council and the mayor. 00:48:03
Also from the city staff. 00:48:06
And we look forward to their report here shortly. 00:48:08
About possible funding. 00:48:12
For Heritage. 00:48:13
Foundation in the future over this next year. 00:48:16
But. 00:48:20
It's been a it's been a struggle for us to try to be visible. 00:48:21
And to try to make an impact in our community. 00:48:25
The Heritage Foundation. 00:48:28
And I just wanted to say thank you to all of you who asked questions. 00:48:30
And who gives a? 00:48:35
Support and who say. 00:48:36
No, let's move forward with these kinds of ideas. And I've seen that from. 00:48:38
The staff most recently as well. So thank you. 00:48:42
Thank you, did I use my 2 minutes? 00:48:44
You we are good way to go, Tim. 00:48:47
Transferable nonsense. Verbal 2 minutes. 00:48:52
OK, All right. Emily Larson with. 00:48:56
Bridgeport, come on down. 00:48:59
Thank you for coming. Appreciate it. Can you say north-south central Bridgeport? I don't even know what I am on 410 E, You're not 00:49:03
Christopher Columbus. 00:49:07
I know, I don't know. I know my address mountainside. 00:49:13
Don't start my 2 minutes yet. I need all my 2 minutes. Just kidding. Saint George St. 00:49:16
So my name is Emily Larson. I'm from Bridgeport. You've seen me before. Parking. 00:49:21
I had two other friends here from my neighborhood that they had to leave because of babysitters so. 00:49:26
There's them and then I'm going to actually. 00:49:31
For part of my time read this from. 00:49:33
Another neighbor that couldn't be here tonight so I'm reading her e-mail. 00:49:35
Good evening Mayor Stratton and council members. My name is Brittany Hanson and I am part of the Bridgeport neighborhood. Thank 00:49:39
you for your time and your continued efforts to listen to. 00:49:43
And represent our community. I'm speaking in support of the proposed parking permit plan for my neighborhood, not as a completely 00:49:47
comprehensive solution. 00:49:51
But as an important and necessary step. 00:49:55
Towards safer, more functional streets. 00:49:57
Right now, many of our roads are simply not safe. 00:49:59
Cars are parked bumper to bumper, making it difficult to see children, dangerous to drive through and in some cases so congested 00:50:02
that emergency vehicles would struggle to get access. 00:50:07
That alone should give us pause. 00:50:11
There are also everyday impacts that add up quickly. Garbage and recycling being skipped because trucks can't reach the cans. 00:50:14
And residents being blocked in or delayed just trying to leave their own driveways. We understand that this connects to a broader 00:50:20
over occupancy challenges. 00:50:24
But this proposal is a practical step that directly involves involves safely and and. 00:50:28
In their liable livability right now. 00:50:35
At the February 7th council meeting, Councilman Holdaway stated that home evictions quote could be seen as kindness. End Quote. 00:50:39
I'd suggest that in some circumstances, towing, when used thoughtfully and sparingly, could reflect the same principle when it 00:50:44
helps resource safety, access and order. 00:50:49
And order for the broader community. That said, no one is asking for unchecked or aggressive enforcement. The goal is balanced. 00:50:55
This plan does that by protecting homeowners and lawful renters while still creating structure and accountability. At the end of 00:51:01
the day, this is about safety, accessibility and preserving a sense of community. 00:51:07
I appreciate the consideration you're giving this issue and encourage you to move this plan forward. Thank you. 00:51:12
I agree with everything that she said and I want to keep our community great. 00:51:18
Look at that. Thank you. Let's go. 00:51:23
You know. 00:51:27
The funny thing is where to go when you stood up. I started it and I totally forgot that Councilman Holder went. 00:51:29
Well. 00:51:35
You're awesome. Love it. OK, we. 00:51:38
Donna Blake with Bridgeport. 00:51:41
Come on down. 00:51:43
North southeast of US. 00:51:44
West, Hi, I am Dana Blake. Oh, sorry, Dana. 00:51:47
All good. I'm in the northeast corner of Bridgeport. 00:51:52
So we. 00:51:58
We have a big issue with over occupancy in our neighborhood as well as Lechevenon there's. 00:52:00
So many cars parked on the road that it is becoming unsafe. Our children cannot ride their bikes because they might not be able to 00:52:06
cross the street safely. 00:52:10
There's umm. 00:52:14
It's really getting to the point where if you're driving at the same time as someone coming the opposite direction, there's 00:52:17
nowhere for you to pull around each other. 00:52:20
It's just becoming unsafe all around and unfortunately some of the. 00:52:25
Owners of the. 00:52:29
Over occupied units have even. 00:52:31
Taking steps to try and bully families out. 00:52:34
For requesting things like not parking in front of their driveways or respecting quiet hours. 00:52:38
And we don't appreciate that as families. 00:52:44
And. 00:52:48
You know, we don't want to push. 00:52:50
This issue onto the renters who came in good faith. 00:52:52
But we really need to restore safety to our neighborhoods. It has become. 00:52:55
A point, like they said, where it's affecting every aspect, it's affecting trash, it's affecting our children, it's affecting 00:52:59
safety, it's affecting driving. 00:53:02
And we so appreciate you, Mayor, and especially Ezra, who's worked a lot with our neighborhood. 00:53:08
And all of you for being willing to hear us on this and I know that there. 00:53:13
Are people who had to leave because. 00:53:17
Because public comment was pushed back, but we appreciate you hearing us. 00:53:20
I also wanted to bring forward one thing. 00:53:24
That I've been seeing which is. 00:53:27
Concerning to me, which is just a tendency to. 00:53:30
Of a few of the council members. 00:53:33
To. 00:53:35
Speak in an inflammatory way on social media and. 00:53:36
We as citizens. 00:53:41
Would really appreciate a more unified approach of speaking respectfully to and about. 00:53:42
Your fellow council members? 00:53:48
And, umm. 00:53:50
Yes, we would really appreciate. 00:53:52
By hearing us on our issues and. 00:53:54
Being respectful of each other even though you all have different. 00:53:57
Agendas. Thank you. 00:54:00
Thank you. 00:54:01
Awesome. Can I? 00:54:02
Can I ask a general question? 00:54:05
As people come up. 00:54:07
Sure. 00:54:09
A couple weeks ago I mentioned in a council meeting I had drove through Bridgeport Lemonade and I had. 00:54:10
Seen and documented a lot of the. 00:54:14
Issues. I counted 5 stop signs that were parked. 00:54:17
With cars parked right up to the line. 00:54:20
Fire hydrants that were blocked. Red curbs with cars on them. 00:54:23
I had reached out to Chief Deputy Holden. 00:54:26
With our local Sheriff's Department. 00:54:29
And he had. 00:54:31
Recent essentially his patrol cars out there and he said that they had wrote 12 tickets I think. 00:54:33
That day or that night? 00:54:38
Have you? When you come up, would you just let me know? Have you seen any? 00:54:40
Improvements with. 00:54:44
That, uh. 00:54:45
OK, OK. 00:54:46
Alrighty, we've got. 00:54:49
John Kidd. 00:54:51
Do you want us all just raise our hands? We appreciate that, they're saying yeah. 00:54:53
So I can go first too. I can read my. 00:54:58
Yeah. 00:55:03
My name is John Kidd and I live in the Maples. 00:55:08
So parking. 00:55:10
Is a tricky topic to address. 00:55:11
We appreciate the freedom that we are blessed with, even down to the freedom of movement. 00:55:13
That granted by our cars. 00:55:17
And we would like to be able to park those cars where we wish particularly. 00:55:19
In our own neighborhoods. 00:55:22
But what happens when one individual's exercise of that? 00:55:24
Freedom begins to impose a cost on others. A large number of vehicles that are parked on a street can impose direct and indirect 00:55:27
costs for neighbors. 00:55:31
I for one appreciate a scenario where these costs are internalized by those causing the imposition. 00:55:36
Of these costs. 00:55:41
If you are able to fit all of your vehicles in your driveway. 00:55:42
That's fantastic. 00:55:44
But when your plethora of vehicles make it so that I am unable to have guests park within 500 feet. 00:55:45
Of my home when I am unable to back my moving truck into my own driveway when I moved in four years ago. 00:55:51
Or when I worry about my children being hit due to a lack of visibility. 00:55:58
Then you have imposed a cost on someone other. 00:56:02
Than yourself. 00:56:04
I've heard some say that we need to be good neighbors and I fully agree. 00:56:06
But in some cases, individual efforts are not enough to resolve the issue. 00:56:09
Being a good neighbor should not require accepting the ongoing negative impacts. 00:56:13
Finally, I encourage the Council to consider this issue. 00:56:18
Promptly. Any change in policy will likely take time to implement. 00:56:21
Rather than simply shutting this down without full information, let's get this information out so that we can address the problems 00:56:24
we see in a timely manner. 00:56:28
The newest portion of the Maples has welcomed many new families and for those that are moving in now or maybe in the near future, 00:56:33
I wish them to know the policy as soon as possible. 00:56:37
Rather than finding out. 00:56:41
And not wanting to live there in six months. 00:56:43
Additionally, addressing this before the influx of college students that the salt the fall semester would bring would help prevent 00:56:46
further strain on neighborhood parking. 00:56:50
I want to be a good neighbor. 00:56:55
And I feel part of that is helping my neighbors be comfortable with policies in their neighborhood. 00:56:56
I appreciate the work that has been done with the parking permit policy and I would like to see this. 00:57:01
Considered for the Naples area as well. 00:57:06
Thank you. 00:57:08
Thank you, John. 00:57:09
And you're nailing it. 00:57:11
OK, let me find out person. 00:57:13
There's a support or against The Who lives in Maples besides John. 00:57:15
Maples OK. 00:57:21
And there was a lot of help with do we like John's idea? Do we support John? 00:57:23
Way to go, John. 00:57:29
Yeah, John, OK. 00:57:30
All righty. So that wasn't. 00:57:32
That was a good point too about you guys are getting a bunch of homes coming in. 00:57:34
And we need to. 00:57:37
Something to. 00:57:38
With with all basin apartments. 00:57:39
OK. All right. 00:57:41
OK. All right. Next up, we've got Stephanie. 00:57:45
So Stephanie had to leave, but she gave me her comment she was going to read. 00:57:49
Round 2. Come on up, John. 00:57:54
She maples again. She maples as well. I would I would talk in a higher voice, but that feels offensive. 00:57:58
Are you in favor of or against the parking permit post? 00:58:04
Are you in favor of the favor? 00:58:06
So sorry. 00:58:09
Good evening. My name is Stephanie. 00:58:10
And I live in the Maples neighborhood. 00:58:13
I'm here to ask the council to consider a parking pass program. As our neighborhood continues to grow and new homes are built, we 00:58:15
are seeing more and more street parking, often with multiple adults living in one home, which leads to several cars parked along 00:58:19
the road. 00:58:23
While we understand that housing needs are changing, the amount of street parking is making our roads feel crowded and less safe. 00:58:28
When cars line both sides of the streets, it becomes hard to see around corners. 00:58:34
And that makes it dangerous for children who are walking. 00:58:38
Riding bikes or using scooters? 00:58:41
It also makes the neighborhood look overcrowded and less cared for. 00:58:43
A parking pass program would help keep our streets safer and more orderly as the Naples continues to expand. 00:58:47
Thank you for your time and consideration. 00:58:52
Awesome. Thank you. 00:58:54
All righty, we got Dave Height. 00:58:56
All right. Thank you all. 00:59:05
Appreciate it. 00:59:06
Mayor, Council people. 00:59:07
Feel kind of like this is a spelling bee here. 00:59:10
Which is where you live here. Bad memories for me so. 00:59:13
Days from the Naples from the Naples, Dave Height. 00:59:17
I'm going to come at this just a tad different. 00:59:21
But yeah, I'm here on behalf of many of our residents. 00:59:24
Not all of them. 00:59:27
But a lot of them. 00:59:28
Especially as we're feeling the added pressure of the 75 plus units all with Adus. 00:59:30
I want to go on record supporting the Parking Pass initiative because it makes our streets safer. Safety is the only reason that 00:59:36
matters. 00:59:39
And I'll leave it at that. 00:59:43
I would like to veer a little and discuss more why it is important to implement now versus continuing to hash it out. 00:59:45
Again. 00:59:52
Respect what you guys do. 00:59:54
Especially when you add emotions and human. 00:59:55
Aspect to it. 00:59:58
Super hard. 00:59:59
That being said. 01:00:00
I've been part of high level collegiate programs that have consistently completed for national championships as a player and as a 01:00:02
coach for nearly 20 years. 01:00:06
I share that because I know what it takes for coaches and teams to work together. 01:00:10
And toward a common. 01:00:14
Goal Two things I've learned that apply directly to tonight. First, what we accept is what we can't expect. 01:00:15
We haven't enforced consistently for five years. If nothing changes, nothing changes. 01:00:22
After a tough loss, the worst feeling was walking back into the same problems. 01:00:27
The best feeling was getting back in the gym, putting the plan into action and seeing results. 01:00:31
I'm ready for that. 01:00:36
We're past the point of talking. Let's implement. 01:00:37
Then refined. 01:00:39
2nd be proactive, not reactive. 01:00:41
Some neighborhoods are already in the crisis mode but can become better. 01:00:44
Others, like the Maple, still have a window. 01:00:47
Proactive action saves money, saves time and spares real heartache. 01:00:49
And heartache that come. 01:00:53
That can't come in many forms. It brings me back to safety. 01:00:55
Waiting always comes at a cost more in dollars and resources. 01:00:58
And a community team trust. 01:01:02
We love the city. 01:01:04
Let's move forward. 01:01:05
With action. Thank you. 01:01:07
Thank you. 01:01:09
David, can I ask, have you heard of Operation Neighborhood Shield? 01:01:10
No. OK. Thank you. 01:01:14
Awesome. 01:01:17
All righty. 01:01:18
From Bridgeport. 01:01:19
OK. 01:01:22
Sure. 01:01:23
Now I feel bad I moved the public comments later. 01:01:26
Bridgeport I actually live across the street from Allie and she is the one who brought this all attention to my. 01:01:29
My I'm Aubrey. 01:01:35
Just really quickly we've been. 01:01:39
Bridgeport since 2019. Homes across the street from us weren't even built when we moved in. 01:01:41
And since then, our kids have grown. We have two grown children. They have. 01:01:48
Their own cars on my son has two cars. 01:01:51
We have put an extra. 01:01:54
You know, cement. 01:01:55
Aunt by our driveway. 01:01:57
So we have 5 cars at our home. 01:01:59
But we use our driveway. 01:02:01
And we do over spill onto the street one to. 01:02:03
To cars depending on if we have visitors at our house. 01:02:05
However. 01:02:09
Of the 10. 01:02:10
Homes that are 9 surrounding my home, five of those. 01:02:12
Our rentals non. 01:02:17
Owner occupied multiple. 01:02:19
People. Umm. 01:02:21
So, you know, anywhere between 4:00 to 8:00, people renting the home. 01:02:22
We literally cannot get into our driveway most of the times. 01:02:27
We cannot have family members over. 01:02:31
They have to park blocks away from us. 01:02:33
Every time a home goes up for sale in Bridgeport. 01:02:36
It ends up being a rental property. 01:02:40
I don't remember the last home that went up for Selvik was sold to a single family. 01:02:43
And I have been consistently reporting on the home just to the north of us for five years, not only to the city, but to the age. 01:02:48
Away. 01:02:58
Not anything has been done. I understand it was understaffed. 01:02:58
I understand code enforcement was not happening as it should be. 01:03:03
But at this point we are five years in. Last year we had a home or a car coming around a corner. 01:03:07
The flipped upside down. 01:03:12
Coming around a. 01:03:14
Blind driveway in a single family neighborhood at 2:30 in the afternoon. 01:03:16
I don't know the circumstances of that wreck. 01:03:20
But the fact that it happened in Bridgeport is terrifying to me. 01:03:22
Especially when children were on their way home from school. 01:03:26
It. 01:03:29
Consistently being taken care of. 01:03:30
To answer your previous question, Operation Shield, whatever, I have seen the proposal for that. 01:03:33
I think it's amazing. 01:03:38
But I do think it's going to take a while to implement and get going and at this point. 01:03:39
Bridgeport is past the point of waiting another. 01:03:44
Six months to a year to have something done, it's already. 01:03:47
Five years past having something done. 01:03:51
That's all I have to. 01:03:54
Thank you. Question for you, Can you what's your address? 01:03:55
207 N. 590 E. 01:03:58
590 E. 01:04:01
Yeah, the House of the North of us has been rented up and downstairs for the past five years to individuals. 01:04:03
I have reported it multiple times. They don't use their driveway. 01:04:10
I at first was reaching out to the owner of that home because we knew him. 01:04:15
We knew him for the six months that he was there before he moved out. 01:04:19
And between the yard. 01:04:23
Never being kept up, you know. 01:04:25
The weeds multiple feet high and then every single person not even parking in the driveway or the garage. 01:04:28
They're all over the neighborhood. 01:04:36
Thank you. 01:04:38
Bailey, Bailey, I'm feeling really bad, man. 01:04:41
Movies back, Geez. 01:04:46
OK, is it Hamlet? 01:04:47
Oh hey, man. 01:04:53
Hello. We're good friends now, right? Yeah, you're a buddy. Thanks so much for having. 01:04:54
Taking the time to address this. 01:04:59
Should we give him a pin? He's been here like. 01:05:02
Give this man a pin. I'm trying to wrap the test for the 79. 01:05:04
Ordeal 48 N Roberta. 01:05:11
I'm getting used to saying the right thing for the beginning. 01:05:14
Yeah, I just wanted to come up here and again represent Lechemenant. I know it's difficult for a lot of. 01:05:17
Our neighbors to come up. I wanted to give some updates. 01:05:23
As I've. 01:05:27
Talk to them. I know that there's a lot of. 01:05:28
People enthusiastic about it also some hesitation or some questions. 01:05:30
Obviously, I want the Council members to keep that in mind. 01:05:34
Because I want the whole neighborhood to be. 01:05:37
Informed. 01:05:39
Have been bought in with it. 01:05:41
That being said also. 01:05:44
Is balancing. 01:05:45
Making something happen also. 01:05:46
Balancing with the time to educate the neighborhood. 01:05:48
So I encourage, obviously the Council members to keep that into consideration. 01:05:51
But like has been said with Bridgeport, I know it's very. 01:05:55
Frustrating because we've seen similar situations where we. 01:05:57
See houses get sold and it goes right to renters. 01:06:00
I dread anytime we see a family move out of our neighborhood because I know renters are going to come in. 01:06:04
That being said, of course there's been times where families do report things and they get bullied by. 01:06:10
Neighbors. We saw one at the Bates. They left because they're. 01:06:15
Getting bullied by. 01:06:18
The Bros at this house beside them, even to the point where he would turn on his diesel truck and let the fumes go into the house. 01:06:20
She told him. 01:06:26
To please not do that affected their air quality. 01:06:28
You'd keep doing it. 01:06:31
Now at the house we have a boat that sits there. This is on the corner of. 01:06:32
Root of Math and Ruth Hugo. 01:06:38
And it the tire is. 01:06:40
Outside of the red. 01:06:42
But the rest of the boat, which is about 25% of that unit. 01:06:43
Sticks out into the red property. 01:06:47
US and a couple of the neighbors have reported it two weeks ago. 01:06:49
No action. 01:06:53
Nothing done so. 01:06:54
Please keep that in mind. 01:06:55
One last thing. 01:06:57
Yeah, keep in mind the comments that are said online. 01:06:59
I know that we all may have different. 01:07:01
Viewpoints but. 01:07:03
Sometimes if we put neighbors against neighbors. 01:07:05
We don't want to do that, so please keep that in mind as well as council members. 01:07:07
Thank you. 01:07:11
Thank you. Thank you. 01:07:12
OK. 01:07:13
Let's do Gary Moore. 01:07:15
Signed in the wrong spot. 01:07:20
All good, brother. 01:07:22
OK. Anybody else? 01:07:24
Yeah, come on down. 01:07:28
Alternate. 01:07:30
My name is Taylor Timothy Lechemena, Rue de Paris. 01:07:33
I'm also known as the speed limit guy. Got the speed. 01:07:36
Yay. But now obviously the problem we're dealing with is over occupancy. You've already heard all the spills. 01:07:39
One of the things, though that has not been mentioned that's happening as well, is we have a lot of people. 01:07:45
Parking from the apartments. 01:07:50
And they're parking on the cheminah. 01:07:52
Having their homie pick them up and then they're driving back to the apartments and then they're leaving. 01:07:53
Yes. 01:07:58
Yes. 01:07:59
So that is something. 01:08:00
Yes. Umm. 01:08:01
All right, I was at the park the other day. 01:08:02
Kid jumped the fence, ran across the train tracks, jumped the fence and. 01:08:05
Went to his car. This part in the Seminole education. 01:08:10
It is dedication. 01:08:12
But that's just some other. 01:08:14
Things they take into consideration with this, I support it. 01:08:15
At the parking situation. 01:08:19
Thank you. 01:08:21
All right, got some more. 01:08:21
Let's go. Yes, Sir, right here. 01:08:24
Come on down and then. 01:08:27
We'll go here, and then here, and then here. 01:08:28
Kind of deal you here. 01:08:31
Great. Thank you. Aye. 01:08:32
Ryan Francis from the Garden No S. 01:08:34
I spoke to you guys two weeks ago at the last meeting, but. 01:08:38
I just wanted to give you kind of an update. 01:08:41
I went around my neighborhood and handed out March Madness brackets, something I do because I love my community and we do it. It's 01:08:43
a fun thing. 01:08:46
But I also got signatures from about 45 families, but I don't. 01:08:49
That really matters, but. 01:08:54
I didn't want it to be my decision, but I just want to give you some of the feedback from people that I talked to and what the 01:08:55
things that they said. But it really kind of echoes that everybody else said, just that there's so many. 01:09:00
Homes that are being illegally rented. 01:09:05
And. 01:09:07
I really appreciate Jacob Wood. 01:09:08
Bring you about all this light like our neighbors had the most infractions I think was 17 in the garden of. 01:09:09
At least reported infractions. 01:09:15
So if that makes us like Karen's or something, that's fine. But you know. 01:09:17
But I. 01:09:21
Sorry if your name Karen, I apologize them. 01:09:24
But I. 01:09:26
But I just wanted to say. 01:09:27
You know, you know. 01:09:29
I appreciate that as being brought up because we've been reporting things and having problems for, you know. 01:09:30
Five years we lived here for 10. 01:09:35
And literally we report things, they're breaking the rules. And what's been happening is they say, well, we're not actually 01:09:37
breaking the rules. And then they come back to us and say, well, they said they're not doing it. So there's not really any teeth 01:09:41
in it. 01:09:45
So I appreciate what Ezra is doing to this. 01:09:49
Parking program I think will give it some teeth. 01:09:51
Some kind of something that will actually. 01:09:53
Give us a tool to try to deter these people from breaking the rules on renting. 01:09:55
But some of the other concerns people mentioned we. 01:10:01
And there's a little mailbox area and it is packed. 01:10:04
I know, Greg Mortenson said. He sent you a picture of it. 01:10:07
It that people stated they don't think a fire truck could get through there, and I think they're right. 01:10:11
We have a disabled girl in a neighborhood who frequently tries to get onto her school bus. 01:10:17
And they can't get to the house because there's so much cars parked and the bus. 01:10:20
Has to like wait and they have to go wheel her down. 01:10:24
Things like this shouldn't happen. 01:10:26
We just want a place to live and I appreciate all the work that you're doing to do that. So thank you very much and I. 01:10:28
Hope that we. 01:10:33
Go forward. Thank you. Thank you. 01:10:34
Thanks, Ryan. 01:10:36
Hi Mark Osteobolechemy not. 01:10:40
Great looking flannel by the way. 01:10:42
Yeah. Thank you. 01:10:44
Appreciate that umm uh. 01:10:45
So maybe a different approach. I agree with what everybody said in the air. It seems like there's a couple of concerns. 01:10:47
About enforcing parking. 01:10:53
And I wanted to just maybe reiterate. 01:10:55
Maybe appease some of the doubts, one of which. 01:10:57
I remember hearing somebody saying like. 01:11:01
You know, if I forget my past. 01:11:03
And I get some tow truck over here at night and I'm gone and my morning is is shot. 01:11:05
You know, it seems like the solution to that is some kind of app. 01:11:10
Base thing where you're. 01:11:14
License plate is registered. 01:11:16
And I which I think is a great idea. So just just to maybe appease some of the concerns about this and get more people on board 01:11:18
with it. 01:11:21
It seems like. 01:11:25
There are some great ideas out there and I would just reiterate to make that super clear. 01:11:27
Super simple. 01:11:32
And enforce it. 01:11:33
Absolutely Velvet Hammer style. 01:11:35
Right. And then the other question I had on this whole thing is what does the? 01:11:37
Fire department. Has the fire department said anything about this? Do they have any input? 01:11:41
That's my question. 01:11:45
Did he leave? 01:11:47
Sanderson Lee. He was. He was here. 01:11:50
Just barely left. 01:11:54
But yes, he is concerned about. 01:11:56
The. 01:11:58
The ability to drive a fire truck into one of these neighborhoods. 01:11:59
And garbage trucks. 01:12:03
He said that on his way. 01:12:05
Charlie, do you want to go again? 01:12:07
Come on down, man. 01:12:08
Who's next? Or yeah? 01:12:09
Let's umm yes please. 01:12:11
No. 01:12:12
It's fine mixing it up a little bit. 01:12:17
It's been so, it's been so positive, so here. 01:12:23
My name is Christine Jeffs and I am here representing both the Library Board and the Friends of the Library Board. 01:12:29
I received an e-mail yesterday with a. 01:12:35
Recommendations for the grant distribution. 01:12:37
And I noticed that the library had two numbers listed. 01:12:40
And I'd like to encourage the Council to consider giving the library the higher of the two amounts. 01:12:43
That were in that e-mail. 01:12:48
We will put that money to such good use and we are a public service that services the entire community. 01:12:49
Thank you. 01:12:55
Over the Friends of the Library thing. 01:12:56
No, I think it's. 01:12:58
In fights with the Symphony. 01:12:59
If I'm reading the e-mail correctly. 01:13:01
Because after libraries had two amounts, then after Symphony it had two announcements and I believe the difference. Brian, will 01:13:03
you clarify? 01:13:06
I got this e-mail yesterday so I don't know if there have been updates. 01:13:10
Yes, no, you're you're correct. So the Vineyard library. 01:13:13
That's the one that would potentially have a decrease. Yeah, the. 01:13:17
The friends didn't change, but it was the library that could potentially have a decrease. 01:13:22
Happy to explain more of that. 01:13:27
At that time, unless you want me to do it now. Sounds good, thanks. Thank you. 01:13:29
Round 2. 01:13:35
My name is Tyler Harrelson. I must have put my. 01:13:39
Name on the wrong list. 01:13:41
Briefly, I wasn't here to comment on the parking situation. 01:13:44
It's not a solution that will help them now. 01:13:48
But I do think this is the chickens coming home to roost when? 01:13:50
This development doesn't have any mixed-use, so no one can walk. 01:13:54
To work or anything useful other than other houses? 01:13:57
Doesn't have any. 01:14:00
Useful transit and has pretty minimal. 01:14:01
Biking like the lady before had said they have. 01:14:04
Five cars, I don't know how many in their household that I live in Utah City, I. 01:14:08
Was helping some neighbors, moved in some college kids. 01:14:12
I had five kids and I was like. 01:14:16
Now I'm interested in this stuff. How many cars do you have? And they said 2. 01:14:18
Three of them take. 01:14:21
Front runner to school and. 01:14:22
The other two have jobs. 01:14:25
They need to take a car and and can't take the front runner so. 01:14:27
I think that when you're. 01:14:30
Considering new developments, having more. 01:14:32
Abilities for transportation is a way to solve your parking problem by. 01:14:34
Not making everybody **** car. 01:14:38
I my own comments. 01:14:40
I talked to you last time about 400 S in the safety proposal there. 01:14:44
I started a petition that as of this morning has 115. 01:14:48
Signatures. Umm. 01:14:52
Basically I wanted to clarify you guys all got an e-mail from Jake summarizing some things that we had talked about some ideas 01:14:54
for. 01:14:57
Great suggestions for for a. 01:15:02
Both the future development and the current that I wanted to clarify that my proposal, my petition is about. 01:15:04
More about the process than. 01:15:10
Necessarily any specific? 01:15:12
Like configuration of of anything like that. 01:15:14
Something that really frustrates me is. 01:15:18
And this is how Orem tends to do things. They take a long time to do a bunch of studies and have a bunch of arguments about these 01:15:21
different things. 01:15:24
Our proposal is essentially that. 01:15:28
Yeah, your staff come up with something that would be reasonable to. 01:15:30
To set up some cones and bollards and that sort of thing right now, implement it and then see how it works. 01:15:33
Right. Staff needs to review it so it's safe enough that it's not going to get anyone hurt in the interim, but. 01:15:39
Having that iterative process, I think would be better than. 01:15:44
Than having a long deliberation and then going. 01:15:47
Sure. Thank you. 01:15:50
Can you say it's? 01:15:51
Really frustrating to get some say. 01:15:52
We want you to change something, but we don't tell. Don't tell us how. 01:15:54
Don't say what you want. 01:15:57
And then we lay something out. It's a new. Those are new. 01:15:59
Clients out there and you're upset with those, but you won't tell us what's wrong with. 01:16:02
So, umm. 01:16:05
People more specific about your complaint and I think you'll get a better. 01:16:06
Response. Sure, and I'm happy to talk with. 01:16:09
Talk with you if you'd like, and talk with anybody that. 01:16:12
That would be useful. 01:16:14
Thank you. Awesome. Thank you, Sir. 01:16:15
OK. Anybody else? 01:16:17
All right, back to the positive conversation. 01:16:19
Hi, my name is Brandon Peterson. I also live in the gardens. 01:16:24
Thank you for this opportunity to speak. 01:16:27
I've been a Vineyard resident for 10 years. I'm actively involved in the community in multiple aspects. 01:16:29
And I have many great neighbors that are. 01:16:35
As well. 01:16:37
We live right next to the princesses. 01:16:38
But we are actively discussing leaving Vineyard. 01:16:41
Right, we bought single family homes for a reason. 01:16:44
And we pay property tax. 01:16:48
Very high property tax. 01:16:49
For single family homes. 01:16:51
And right now the problem that I feel is precedent. 01:16:53
Right. 01:16:56
How? 01:16:57
Really enforce. 01:16:58
Was if we pick and choose what laws we're enforcing. 01:17:00
It's creating tremendous safety dangers we've talked about. 01:17:03
Started in multiple. 01:17:07
Children in Vineyard have died. 01:17:08
Being hit by cars. 01:17:10
And many more that could happen. 01:17:11
And so. 01:17:13
As good families are fed up and leaving Vineyard. 01:17:14
I would just extremely caution this group. 01:17:18
Because it will happen more. 01:17:20
And uh. 01:17:22
We know that the pattern will be that they will be replaced with rentals. 01:17:23
There's already. 01:17:27
High amount of high occupancy. 01:17:28
High occupancy housing options in Vineyard. 01:17:30
And I think that that needs to be the encouraged drought for people that need that for economic reasons. But. 01:17:34
It's quite unfair to the citizens to. 01:17:39
Continue this pattern of what's been happening in spite of us reporting things and it's. 01:17:43
It's extremely frustrating. 01:17:48
And discouraging, honestly and so. 01:17:50
I'm definitely not. 01:17:54
My with 10 and I know my neighbors are as well and I hope that we can find a. 01:17:54
Swift and. 01:17:58
Realistic. 01:18:00
Resolution to these problems because they're only going to get worse. 01:18:01
So thank you. 01:18:04
Thank you. 01:18:06
OK, all righty. 01:18:10
Anybody else? 01:18:11
Taryn Cornelius. Come on down, Karen. 01:18:13
Karen Cornelius. 01:18:21
And first of all. 01:18:23
I feel for everyone of you. 01:18:25
That are struggling with parking. 01:18:26
Especially those of you that have young children that. 01:18:29
Are in danger. 01:18:31
When they're trying to play. 01:18:33
And they're called the sacker in their neighborhood. 01:18:35
I on the other hand, I live in paradise in the villas. 01:18:37
Because, uh. 01:18:41
We don't have any parking problems. 01:18:41
But one thing that I have not heard addressed. 01:18:44
Is what is this over occupancy? 01:18:46
Problem we're going to do to our property values. 01:18:49
That is frightening. 01:18:52
Our taxes are higher than anybody elses and I think we're going to watch our property taxes. 01:18:55
Think so rather than a parking permit or anything that's going to put a Band-Aid on. If you want to do that for a minute, that's 01:19:00
OK. 01:19:04
But we have got to address. 01:19:08
The root of the problem. 01:19:10
And the root of the problem is over occupancy. 01:19:11
And somehow we have got to put some legal minds together. 01:19:15
And figure out what we can do. 01:19:19
So that those of us that have invested. 01:19:21
Here, to live here and to enjoy being here. 01:19:24
Are not sold out. 01:19:27
To all of these investors. 01:19:29
Thanks. Awesome. 01:19:31
Are you ******* yeah. ****** me off. 01:19:35
Thank you, Karen. 01:19:38
All right. Do we have one more? All right. 01:19:40
Come on down. 01:19:43
Yeah, and we got some more. 01:19:45
All right. Just one more. OK. 01:19:46
Nicole Haslington, LA Shamanite. 01:19:49
I echo everything. I think everything's been said really well, but. 01:19:51
Last night we were talking to some neighbors and there was a lot of discussion. 01:19:55
Around just like a lot of. 01:19:59
Extreme like sensationalized comments going around. 01:20:01
From. 01:20:06
Some neighbors who don't fully understand. 01:20:08
The proposal and there's a group chat, there's a Facebook group and and those that have read on it after being informed about it 01:20:10
all came back and said. 01:20:15
This seems really fair and I agree. 01:20:20
With what this is and so I just want to caution that I think the people. 01:20:22
Those that that are hearing about it through the Grapevine like there was a comment about. 01:20:26
Sneaky meetings going on with the neighborhood. 01:20:31
And my husband is actively out. I almost can't go on a walk with him at night because there's no stopping him from. 01:20:35
Talking to every neighbor, he sees a knocking on doors to notify them. 01:20:42
About this and I I just want there to be those, you know, those extreme comments that are against it to not be taken. 01:20:46
In a way that. 01:20:54
It's just because they don't know. I feel like they're not informed about what is being discussed. 01:20:54
And I think those. 01:21:00
There's a reason that sensationalized news comments. 01:21:01
Make the headlines right because it gets people to buy in because it's scary. 01:21:05
And we do want our neighborhood to be a community like. 01:21:09
Everything that's been said, we bought a single family home because we want to live there and we are surrounded by. 01:21:12
Neighbors. One of our neighbors. 01:21:18
Around the house, that is. 01:21:22
Filled with. 01:21:24
Renters so that it's basically like we're living next to a slumlord because there is no. 01:21:25
Taking care of the property, the trash cans are never taken out, the yard isn't cared for and it's just it's it's a slumlord home 01:21:30
and that's what not what we wanted to live in Vineyard for. 01:21:35
Thank you. Awesome. 01:21:41
Come on down. 01:21:44
Hi, I'm twin at Norton, sorry I'm late to the party, just got back from the kids game. 01:21:51
I was the first new build in Vineyard. 01:21:59
I built in 2013. 01:22:02
Literally the only house. 01:22:04
Out here. 01:22:05
I came over from the last neighborhood in Orem. 01:22:07
For the truck. 01:22:09
Or the trailer to get posted because I was excited for new development and growth and. 01:22:11
I can confidently say in the last past five years, it's been chaos and. 01:22:16
Just with. 01:22:23
The housing crisis and. 01:22:25
Where we're at economically like. 01:22:27
The way that. 01:22:30
I came to understand how Vineyard was designed was for single family homes. 01:22:33
Which is great. 01:22:37
But with. 01:22:38
How things are changing. The design no longer. 01:22:39
Holds its purpose. 01:22:41
It's exceeded its. 01:22:43
Broken. It doesn't serve for. 01:22:45
A single rental community. 01:22:48
And. 01:22:51
I'm not out. 01:22:52
I I will. 01:22:54
Put my name out there. I started the Vineyard neighborhood group. 01:22:55
And I haven't been great in keeping it. 01:22:58
Posted or trying to keep people involved and so I I started. 01:23:01
Just the other night like just trying to understand perspectives of. 01:23:05
Different issues. 01:23:09
People on Rue de Borda, their issues are heavier than mine on Rudy Math. 01:23:10
But yes, we all have a traffic problem, and we all. 01:23:14
Even the groups that I've been. 01:23:17
Recently added to. 01:23:18
We all. 01:23:20
Have the same goal and the same concerns, but they're just. 01:23:21
At different levels and so. 01:23:24
My thoughts. 01:23:29
About it is, it's not a one. 01:23:31
Size fits all like. 01:23:34
Enforce towing and some of the other. 01:23:36
Neighborhoods is definitely needed. I've mowed lawns throughout Vineyard with my sons and I've made great relationships with. 01:23:38
Even singles that. 01:23:45
Have hired us and just getting to know them and where they're at in life. 01:23:46
And I think. 01:23:50
We suffer as a family community in connection with our neighbors. We don't. 01:23:54
Go out of our way to get to know our neighbors. We definitely don't serve our neighbors. 01:23:58
I was raised. 01:24:03
Serve neighbors, elderlies, take out their trash, move their lawns. Like that's what I'm teaching my kids. And that was my hope 01:24:04
when I moved into this neighborhood that we would have. 01:24:08
Good. Solid. 01:24:13
Values and what we want to teach. 01:24:14
Our kids because we want a family community. 01:24:17
But. 01:24:20
As I've kind of. 01:24:22
Talk to neighbors. 01:24:24
In our neighborhood to understand again the frustration. 01:24:26
Parking is an outcome. 01:24:29
To overpopulation of renters, it's an outcome. 01:24:31
If we can. 01:24:34
Have the same. 01:24:35
Or have different. 01:24:36
Restrictions. 01:24:39
As far as like. 01:24:40
You want to rent your house? Great. Rent it to a family. 01:24:41
And I want to know the homeowners and. 01:24:45
Information like I would rather go. 01:24:47
To the homeowner and address issues that I have as a neighbor then have to waste government time and money. 01:24:50
Over just. 01:24:55
Bickering. 01:24:57
And so. 01:24:58
I don't know what the answer is for that, but like short term. 01:25:01
As simple as it sounds. 01:25:05
A lot of people are visual. 01:25:08
Um, if we even just paint. 01:25:12
Parking stalls on the Stinking St. 01:25:14
Two cars fit here. 01:25:16
Sorry, squares don't fit in round holes. Like you don't fit. You don't fit. But it's also not our problem. We're not equipped to 01:25:17
park a bus, an RV, a semi, whatever it is like. 01:25:22
That was never the design, so there. 01:25:27
I guess my hope for the Holy seminar. 01:25:31
Neighborhood. 01:25:34
Is 1 to fill in the gaps of lack of communication. 01:25:36
There are so many apps and platforms where all of these conversations are happening, but there's no source of truth, so it's 01:25:40
always he said, she said. 01:25:44
There's there's gaps, it's broken. I get it. 01:25:48
But it's not, I think. 01:25:51
I don't. I know my intent is not to attack or pin any neighbor against another. 01:25:56
I was raised that when you have issues, you come to the table with solutions. 01:26:03
I've heard a lot of complaints for several years. 01:26:07
But no one wants to come to the table with solutions or they expect. 01:26:10
Somebody able to make the decision for the majority? 01:26:14
I don't think it's all the questions you have. Neighborhoods have their own council where it's like. 01:26:18
Now let's have some designated. 01:26:23
Representation on each St. 01:26:26
You guys talk about who is being rented. You guys approve if they're gonna. 01:26:28
Be part of this neighborhood. 01:26:32
And then bring it to vineyards attention like hey. 01:26:35
This family wants the rent. Great. 01:26:37
Do them registered like. 01:26:39
I want to see more accountability for these homeowners that are outside of the state too. 01:26:41
Yeah, one guy on my. 01:26:47
He lives in California. He owns four different. 01:26:50
Houses on our street like. 01:26:53
But I don't have a contact for him. 01:26:55
That's not fair. But anyway sorry I went overtime for sure but. 01:26:57
I just. 01:27:01
I support Vineyard and I want to help them grow but also. 01:27:03
I feel like there needs to be a lot more conversation before anything's just. 01:27:07
To Boston says it's done so. 01:27:11
Thank you for that. 01:27:14
Appreciate it. Thank you. 01:27:15
OK, all righty, we are going to close public comments. 01:27:16
Does everyone go? They wanted to go. 01:27:21
One more. 01:27:23
All right. 01:27:25
Travis Thompson at the garden. 01:27:30
No's. 01:27:32
I just want to show my support for the the parking initiative. I further support just enforcing Adus. It's ridiculous that we 01:27:36
don't I. 01:27:39
Lived in basement apartments in Orem that the first thing my landlord told me was you have to park off the street. 01:27:44
It is enforced. We care. 01:27:49
And it was great. 01:27:51
A wonderful experience. I think we can. 01:27:52
Force our our. 01:27:54
Owners to do the same thing and there's. 01:27:55
Usually plenty of driveway space that goes unused. It's kind of insane. 01:27:57
But uh. 01:28:01
I just want to say that this is. 01:28:02
The only thing that has ever gotten me to a City Council meeting. 01:28:03
Just for the record, like not a political person registered independent. 01:28:10
Like I vote and that's about it. 01:28:14
This matters because I have kids. 01:28:17
And because they run around all the time. 01:28:20
And luckily I live in the center of the neighborhood. 01:28:23
And I didn't have to deal with this until maybe. 01:28:25
Two years ago. 01:28:28
And now I can barely get my boat. 01:28:29
In and out of my. 01:28:31
RV pad that I paid. 01:28:33
A stupid amount of money to put in. 01:28:35
So that I didn't have to park it on the street. 01:28:37
Because that's the responsibility. 01:28:39
That I bear, and we should hold everyone accountable to that kind of stuff. 01:28:41
And at that. 01:28:44
Politics, yeah. 01:28:45
Awesome. Thanks. 01:28:48
OK, for. 01:28:49
One more. 01:28:51
Jeremy. 01:28:55
Jeremy is Bridgeport. Yeah, I know. 01:28:56
You guys like one more? 01:28:57
I just wanted to share a quick story real quick. 01:29:00
With the families regard. 01:29:03
To them feeling safe. 01:29:04
When I come through my neighborhood in Bridgeport, I make it a point. 01:29:07
To drive. 01:29:09
1015 miles an hour, no faster. 01:29:10
The other day I was coming around the corner and due to the amount of cars parked on the street, I almost took a child's life. 01:29:13
And I can't even imagine what that would be like. 01:29:20
Had the parent not been there. 01:29:24
That child would have been dead. 01:29:27
I came around the corner. There was absolutely no way in our. 01:29:29
To see the child. 01:29:32
They darted out from in between two cars. 01:29:34
There was a mom there that thankfully grabbed the arm and the kid, otherwise I would have killed the child. 01:29:36
So with that I would just really. 01:29:41
I'd like to say just do what you can. 01:29:45
I mean, I know. 01:29:49
I know everybody has an opinion. 01:29:50
Everybody's working hard on this situation. This was handed to you guys by another administration. 01:29:52
Not a lot you can do about it. 01:29:58
But in the meantime. 01:29:59
I really don't wanna. 01:30:01
Good. Yeah, so. 01:30:02
If there's anything you can do, parking passes I think would be great right at first, but. 01:30:05
You know, whatever you guys feel like. Thank you Sir. Thank you for sharing. 01:30:10
That was awesome. 01:30:13
I'll think of another one of those. Anyone else? 01:30:15
Great. OK, we're going to close public comments. 01:30:18
Good, good. OK, awesome. 01:30:21
All righty, so let's. 01:30:24
Talk Council, let's discuss the 8.6 this consent item. 8.6 Neighborhood parking permit program resolution. 01:30:25
26-19. 01:30:32
Any comments from Council? 01:30:38
Sure. 01:30:42
Comments. 01:30:44
I'm just. 01:30:47
I'm very empathetic. 01:30:51
Towards. 01:30:53
The community, like I said, I. 01:30:54
Gone and drove through those neighborhoods a couple times and I see the issues. 01:30:56
And I think it's appalling and I would be scared if I lived in that community too. 01:30:59
I appreciate the way that you guys. 01:31:08
Have shown up. 01:31:10
To come to the City Council meeting and. 01:31:11
Speak very politely. 01:31:13
And and honestly and with your your hearts. 01:31:15
I was very frustrated. 01:31:20
By some of the. 01:31:24
Events that I have learned had transpired. 01:31:25
Between our last. 01:31:28
Discussion on this. 01:31:30
And now? 01:31:32
And to maybe not. 01:31:34
Do a disservice. I I was very prepared with. 01:31:38
Maybe borderline hostile statements? 01:31:43
But I. 01:31:48
I'm frustrated with how this is transpiring overall and I'm frustrated on behalf of the the residents and I'm frustrated. 01:31:49
As a council member. 01:31:56
In a previous City Council meeting, we gave direction when we addressed this last and it was done unanimously. 01:31:58
By the way. 01:32:04
That we needed to. 01:32:06
Hold community meetings. 01:32:08
And we needed to collect more information, we needed to talk to the residents and try to build as much consensus as possible. 01:32:09
To make sure that what we were going to implement worked. 01:32:15
And in the last 24 hours, I learned. 01:32:19
That many residents were told not to meet with. 01:32:21
Councilmember Wood or Councilmember Holdaway. 01:32:24
Who were assigned that responsibility to facilitate those community meetings? 01:32:26
And I think that's done a great disservice to you all. 01:32:30
Because if those meetings had transpired and we would have collected that data and that information. 01:32:33
We could have more informed. 01:32:38
Decisions on how to actually implement this process. 01:32:40
In an effective manner for the community at large. 01:32:43
So I'm frustrated that that. 01:32:46
Was essentially subverting the will of the Council and again it was a unanimous decision so that. 01:32:48
That was frustrating to learn about. 01:32:53
I think. 01:32:56
That. 01:32:58
One, we need to pull the levers that are going to be most immediate to help the residents. 01:32:59
And to me, that most immediate lever we have available is enforcement. 01:33:03
So I would like to with the. 01:33:08
You know, approval and agreement of the Council. 01:33:10
Let's encourage the Sheriff's Department to hit that area hard because if people get ticketed on that street every single day. 01:33:14
If it. 01:33:22
Every single day these people will start parking there because they'll start. 01:33:24
Going to court. 01:33:29
Hey, Alexa, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am. 01:33:31
Please come to the come to Mark. 01:33:34
Name. 01:33:37
Again, Aubrey Nanhart from Bridgeport, and I apologize. I I hear you. 01:33:38
I understand. 01:33:44
But you know what, there has been for a couple of months now a group of citizens really working together to try to see each 01:33:46
other's point of view. I initially was against. 01:33:51
Towing. 01:33:56
Because I have to park on the street. 01:33:57
From our own home. 01:34:00
But I am. 01:34:01
For it at this point and This is why. 01:34:02
We've called the sheriff. 01:34:05
They have increased their. 01:34:06
Done their their patrols in our neighborhood in Bridgeport. I have had people park 3 feet into my driveway. 01:34:08
They've been ticketed. 01:34:17
Guess what? 01:34:18
It happens again the next week. 01:34:19
It happens over and over again. I I just. 01:34:21
Feel like that? 01:34:24
Avenue has been taken. 01:34:26
By the residents because the city has not done anything over the past five years. 01:34:28
That Ave. has been addressed multiple times. 01:34:34
And there has been a lot of work. 01:34:37
Put out with a lot of the residents who are honestly concerned about this. I'm not saying that. 01:34:40
That neighborhood councils. 01:34:46
Don't have value because they do, I think. 01:34:48
Enforcing the code. 01:34:52
That has been needed to be done forever and you guys are behind the game on that and that is not your fault. 01:34:54
But I think that the conjunction of it needs to happen. 01:34:59
It needs to happen in tandem. 01:35:02
And you know what? If these renters are getting in trouble. 01:35:05
They're going to put the force on their landlords because right now. 01:35:08
The tenants in these neighborhoods have been trying to do it for years. 01:35:12
And nothing has succeeded in that if these tenants are the ones getting towed and paying and having to go back to their landlords 01:35:16
and saying you need to do something about this because this isn't right. And now the city is making me pay. 01:35:22
Those landlords are going to fill a lot more pressure. Those landlords are not going to be able to keep trying to get people to 01:35:29
sign leases as families to get past the law. 01:35:34
So according to. 01:35:38
Code enforcement needs to happen. Neighborhood captains is great, but there's a lot of people who got off of work and came here 01:35:39
early, who have spent multiple emails, who have been involved in text talking to neighborhoods. 01:35:45
All before this. 01:35:51
Thank you. You guys know. 01:35:54
So when we tried to schedule a meeting 3 weeks ago, do you guys know why it was denied? 01:35:56
Well, there was, I know that there was a meeting that I got up. 01:36:02
Like why didn't you guys take the meeting to this? We wouldn't be voting on the decision tonight. I'm just trying to figure out 01:36:04
like why the delay in the meeting is actually what's preventing? Why didn't you guys just. 01:36:09
Like we reached out and said, could we hold a meeting and you guys? 01:36:14
The response was. 01:36:18
We don't want to meet. 01:36:20
So do we know why? 01:36:21
I don't know of any about how many Me either. 01:36:23
Gardens that we would have to have a king. 01:36:27
So like you guys, you guys would be, you guys would be implementing the decision now and we're like. 01:36:30
So when we reach out and we're like. 01:36:35
When you said reach out, how did you reach out? Yeah, I didn't know. There's there's a little part with me, so I know that yes, 01:36:37
we're looking to get some people together from. 01:36:41
He said in the meeting in front of all So. 01:36:46
What I spoke about with you guys is we had originally talked about doing a meeting before this. 01:36:50
Nicole and I forgot that we had a major event coming up. 01:36:55
With a lot. 01:36:58
With just friends and everything. 01:36:58
That kept us so I. 01:37:00
Told you guys that. 01:37:02
Primarily Jacob. 01:37:03
That we had something come up, so we did not have the time to get that, but I did let the group know. 01:37:04
So it wasn't that we didn't want to do. We could get this done. 01:37:09
We could get this done in 48 hours. 01:37:12
So let's just walk through the plan. 01:37:14
We want you guys to make your own decision. 01:37:16
We were. We asked you. 01:37:19
To schedule a meeting of your neighborhood. 01:37:21
That we could put a. 01:37:23
Poster out and just say. 01:37:24
We want everyone to come. 01:37:26
In that meeting we would sit down and say what is the consensus around the group so that it would be your decision. 01:37:27
Not ours. 01:37:34
Leaving that meeting, we would then just say. 01:37:35
We're going to go door to door and tell everyone that that's the consensus and we could do it 24 hours later after that. 01:37:37
And nobody took us up on it. 01:37:44
So we were like. 01:37:45
And then and then in that meeting and let me walk you through what that meeting would be because there's a lot of decisions. 01:37:47
OK, and let's take 10 minutes because you guys are really passionate. 01:37:52
We can even have our first meeting right now. 01:37:55
OK. The first, the first decision of that meeting is there's a lot of different types of parking. 01:37:57
So we've already done this in two communities. 01:38:02
There's the. 01:38:05
Judge, jury and executioner. 01:38:06
Meaning that. 01:38:08
We lose our sovereignty as a city, which is it can be done. 01:38:09
You guys want to do that? 01:38:13
And there are locations I've done that. 01:38:15
Both communities that did it. 01:38:17
Walked away from it. 01:38:19
But if it's your decision that wanted to do it. 01:38:21
You could, but we just wanted to make sure that it was. 01:38:24
Your decision to do it and to clarify what that you mean that that you allow the towing company and decide you would be told when 01:38:26
does what that does is it changes it into a into kind of a. 01:38:32
HOA type relationship meaning. 01:38:38
Code enforcement. 01:38:41
Does not do it. 01:38:42
The sheriff does not do it. 01:38:43
We are deputizing the tow truck company that's compensated by. 01:38:45
475 a toe. 01:38:48
And they just go around and they are the judge. 01:38:50
Meaning that our city, our Sarah. 01:38:53
The and that's OK. 01:38:56
And then #2. 01:38:59
Do you want to do a digital path? 01:39:01
Or a paper path. There's pros and cons to both and we and in that meeting we would sit you down through. 01:39:02
OK. And then there's also, do you want to do? 01:39:08
Or do you want to do 1? 01:39:11
Then there's decisions on. 01:39:13
You have families that have. 01:39:14
For like, there's families of kids. 01:39:16
How do we? 01:39:18
How do we overcome that? 01:39:20
And then there's problems of. 01:39:21
How can we expand parking? So there's about. 01:39:24
12 different decisions that we have to sit down. 01:39:26
Because you guys live amongst yourselves. 01:39:29
It's your decision. 01:39:31
And at the end of the meeting, we wanted to sit down and go. 01:39:33
Who is the person that. 01:39:35
That is in charge of. 01:39:37
And communicating what that decision. 01:39:39
Is and then that decision. 01:39:41
Would be your neighborhoods. You wouldn't be coming here for a vote. 01:39:44
And it would be and and. 01:39:48
What is that leadership look like? 01:39:50
Is that 2 people? Is it one person? Who's the block captain that's in charge of that? 01:39:52
Because you guys are gonna have to. 01:39:58
You guys gonna have to look each other in the eye. 01:39:59
Because what happened on the two other communities, they did a digital parking pass like you guys were talking about. 01:40:02
The HOA people were so ****** ***. 01:40:08
That they did it. They even got told themselves. 01:40:11
And then they came back and it was like, we're so. 01:40:13
And it was like, great, but you own the decision. It's not us. 01:40:15
And then? 01:40:18
Even the neighborhood being very flexible saying that could happen. 01:40:19
You guys. 01:40:24
Without government in place, could. 01:40:24
Group together real quick in your group chat. 01:40:26
And have better conversations and say. 01:40:29
Let's adjust. We wanna go to two passes. We wanna go to 1 pass. This isn't working. Let's do paper. 01:40:31
But it is a. 01:40:37
Individual neighborhood experience. 01:40:38
And one of the other reasons why we wanted to do that is, is there differentiation between Bridgeport? 01:40:40
Endless seminat. 01:40:46
Or the gardens, right, So that it's individ? 01:40:48
And the Maple and cottonwoods, so that what that is and that you guys are coming at this as an educated decision. The other reason 01:40:51
why we need to do this, we're not throwing. 01:40:55
These aren't bad people. 01:40:59
But in taking. 01:41:01
Into this problem. 01:41:03
We've never had anybody evicted in vineyards. 01:41:04
For years we were told that your. 01:41:07
Responses were being heard and that they were being investigated. 01:41:10
Part of that problem is staff. 01:41:14
Part of it is. 01:41:16
OK, this is the type of evidence. 01:41:17
That needs to be taken. 01:41:19
Does your can we educate you on this? How can we fulfill with that to be able to do that right? 01:41:21
And so these are different decisions between 4 different communities on what they want. 01:41:26
And we're only coming into the meeting to go. 01:41:31
What is the consensus? Because what happened here is. 01:41:34
We're going to do digital parking passes. 01:41:37
We're going to force it down. 01:41:40
If we're going to use our lose our sovereignty and that's and that's OK. 01:41:41
But are all four of you that same? 01:41:45
And then who is and that when if it doesn't work? 01:41:47
Are you guys all going to come back and scream to us and we're going, no, that shouldn't happen that way. 01:41:50
There should be 1 neighborhood person. 01:41:54
That owns it. 01:41:57
And the other reason why is is that one person or that leadership can help us in a monthly meeting to go. 01:41:58
Is our enforcement employee doing it the right way? Do you have problems with the evidence? Because we found out. 01:42:04
That there were excuses that were did not have merit. 01:42:12
We've gone and met with Provo, we've gone and met with Orem and. 01:42:16
I don't want this to be an attack on any employee or any past policy. 01:42:19
But dammit, Oral and Provo do this. 01:42:24
And so if they can do it, we can do it. 01:42:27
And so learning those. 01:42:29
Problems and I don't want to deputize this leader. 01:42:31
But. 01:42:35
That and I love our our previous council. 01:42:36
But I sat on here for two years saying that we are doing enforcement. 01:42:39
And we weren't. 01:42:43
And so for two years later to get into it, it's like very frustrating. So we've got to be able to have. 01:42:45
And then when you talk about enforcement. 01:42:50
You're talking about very different enforcement. 01:42:52
And so we've learned through this. 01:42:55
But then the other thing is, is we've learned is there's bad actors. 01:42:57
When you give over your sovereignty. 01:43:01
On the roads. 01:43:04
And I do agree that it could be good. 01:43:05
Especially right at the beginning. 01:43:07
But it's going to **** people off because you're going to make a mistake because you're going to. 01:43:08
Heart 12 inches. 01:43:12
You're going to think you didn't. Part 12 and says off. 01:43:15
And he's compensated by 475. 01:43:18
You know a toe. 01:43:20
And so it's like, OK, but you guys? 01:43:22
You know what I mean? And so it's like you're not coming back to us on if that is. 01:43:24
But then there's. 01:43:27
Don't lose our sovereignty toe. 01:43:28
Which is. 01:43:30
That we can deputize the leader of your neighborhood to say. 01:43:31
OK, we don't want him policing. 01:43:35
We just want them when there is a problem. We want them moving immediately, quickly. 01:43:37
Right. 01:43:42
And then that one has to notify that. So someone has to notify real quick. 01:43:43
So it still goes to. 01:43:46
The sheriff or or our staff, right? 01:43:47
And that person is I'm sending a text message to Shoto. 01:43:50
And we, you know, setting up the automatic tow. 01:43:54
They can come in 15 minutes and. 01:43:59
That's what we're learning is better. 01:44:01
But to be honest with you, this is a learning game and we wanted skin. 01:44:03
Like you guys are all passionate and I feel the love in the community. 01:44:07
And the desire to serve. 01:44:11
But it was like we didn't get that. And we're like, we have to educate on that. 01:44:13
Because you guys have to stare each other in the eye and so. 01:44:18
That's what I'm hearing today and if you guys are. 01:44:21
Willing to do that, You guys are coming. 01:44:23
Blanketly, umm. 01:44:26
We'll do this from me, on my standpoint, I'm like. 01:44:27
I don't mind blanketly doing that. 01:44:30
But I want a meeting. 01:44:33
Thursday like. 01:44:34
Two days from now. 01:44:36
That you will sit down, that you all show up the same. 01:44:38
We will go through all of those different problems. 01:44:40
That we will sit down and find a leadership group. 01:44:43
So the 9 or 10 people that. 01:44:46
Send angry emails. 01:44:48
About I don't want to do it and that's because they research with the other two. 01:44:50
That they were failed and so we didn't even get a present. OK. 01:44:54
This is the predatory tub that we're. 01:44:57
There were. 01:44:59
Faced with right? 01:45:01
And so it's you're more educated about. 01:45:03
And then the last thing I would say is. 01:45:05
You're more educated about. 01:45:07
Your decision. 01:45:08
Because this doesn't work. You guys coming and screaming for two minutes. 01:45:09
I've been here for two years. 01:45:14
And coming to the microphone and going north or South side. 01:45:16
And then hearing from staff saying, oh, it is being done and then it's not. It's like. 01:45:20
It wasn't being done and I hate to say this, but you were lied to. 01:45:25
It wasn't. That's a big rant, but those are that's what we're. 01:45:29
That's why I like the neighborhood thing. It's so come up to the mic now. 01:45:32
I don't know, can we also share? 01:45:35
On this real quick. 01:45:38
One of the big efforts with Operation Neighborhood Shield that was briefed last week is the increased code enforcement, because I 01:45:39
think everyone here is in agreeance. 01:45:43
The parking is a problem because of the over occupancy and I know as a statistic you know last year there were over 300. 01:45:47
Code enforcement violation reports made. 01:45:54
And I think only two fines were issued. 01:45:57
So the enforcement piece is where we've historically struggled the most. 01:45:59
We're moving to add. 01:46:03
Employees to do that full time as well as shift work morning and evening. 01:46:05
And bolster how they can collect evidence. 01:46:09
To actually enforce these codes, you know, you're also real quick, just so you know. 01:46:12
We're also being gained by investors where the 30 people that are coming in, I know we can't share private information. 01:46:16
But we know information enough to be able to know how we're being gained and buying multiple houses and you guys have information. 01:46:23
That can help. 01:46:30
Better. 01:46:31
So the decision is being made. 01:46:31
We also have people that. 01:46:33
Own the investment properties that also live in Vineyard and go to social media. 01:46:35
And are scared that we're going to be enforcing this, but there's only 20 to 30 of them so. 01:46:40
I'm sorry but. 01:46:45
You bought a home with only four with with four people, not 8. 01:46:46
And so we have the backbone to be able to do it, but. 01:46:51
The knowledge that you have in your neighborhoods. 01:46:53
You know your specific problem and so having a block captain person No, no, we know this person, but also. 01:46:56
Collectively working together. 01:47:02
But also there's been some violations that have come in where you guys have been ratted out as to. 01:47:05
Our employee violating sensitive information like you're turning them in. 01:47:10
And that and then it stopped your ability to. 01:47:14
Anonymously go through and do that. So we have to be the bad guys in the. 01:47:18
And our block, and I hate to say this, but our employees work for us. 01:47:22
And that type of culture. 01:47:27
Enforcement that backbone. 01:47:30
Does not mean it's it's it's love, you know and so. 01:47:32
That's what we need. 01:47:36
That's what we're asking from you guys. 01:47:37
And we're going to be a willing partner. 01:47:39
Is that one thing, Mayor, please go on to? Can we ask the deputy Sergeant if perhaps? 01:47:41
He might have some stats for us about about the last week to do more patrolling, right, they did. 01:47:46
For enforcement, what? What happened there? What? 01:47:50
Do you have any death and sponsor him? 01:47:55
The number that we gave that was. 01:47:58
On there but I mean we've hit it hard up and I mean let's Gemini just for. 01:48:01
Just for. 01:48:05
I mean your sake. I mean I've got. 01:48:07
Excellent pictures of that. 01:48:09
Tiny ambulance that. 01:48:11
That they have down here now. 01:48:12
Where it is right in between the road and I've actually got it within like this distance on both sides. 01:48:15
So even the small one is having problems in there. It's not like it's unknown for us. 01:48:21
But even with me and a full size Tahoe going down there. 01:48:26
It's an issue and can I ask this? 01:48:29
I mean, while we're on the subject. 01:48:31
Is there not already the mechanism that if there's. 01:48:34
And unsafe. 01:48:37
Parked car like in front of a fire hydrant, in front of a stop sign, on a red curb. 01:48:39
Can those not just be towed immediately and do we have a agreement in place to allow us to do that? 01:48:43
Yeah, we can. We can do that. 01:48:48
Based on the public safety side, so. 01:48:51
With for instance with your. 01:48:53
You're right. 01:48:55
But it's the medical part doesn't necessarily alleviate all of the concern, but that alleviates. 01:48:58
Some of the safety issue. 01:49:02
Especially going around corners. 01:49:05
Right, but it. 01:49:06
By putting in a party I mean I agree with the permit, it's just the style and then especially when you see people parking from 01:49:07
the. 01:49:10
The trail railroads like hey, this person just came over, let's grab them. 01:49:13
Like that knowledge is key because we could act on it quickly, but that's why I'm saying on a partnership is like. 01:49:17
We are. 01:49:23
Screaming. We've messaged to a lot of people like. 01:49:23
When can we hold this meeting? 01:49:26
And they can be very quick and especially with. 01:49:28
The overwhelming desire, and I agree there is misinformation about on both sides, like in terms of like. 01:49:31
And you're going to learn through this process. 01:49:40
Really. I mean, as a small business owner, iteration fails great. 01:49:42
And we're going to do this. 01:49:46
Contract, we're going to try it for 30 days. 01:49:48
Great. We're going to switch over and. 01:49:50
There's kind of like a Swiss army knife of tools of. 01:49:52
What? Uh. 01:49:55
What do you want to do? 01:49:55
And as a civil neighborhood, having those conversations quickly and giving feedback to the leaders what you need. 01:49:57
So Ron Francis Gordon I. 01:50:03
First of all. 01:50:06
I I would like. 01:50:07
I mean, I think it's pretty unanimous. We want the solution and I don't think. 01:50:08
From at least our garden. 01:50:12
Yeah, uh. 01:50:14
I didn't know. 01:50:15
The only thing I saw was in this group meet that. 01:50:17
Has been going on, it's having on most of the information and I came to the meeting 2 weeks ago. 01:50:20
But I didn't know that. 01:50:23
You guys were attending to meet with us because I mean I will meet with you any day of the week honestly, you mean and I know I 01:50:24
can get people in the neighborhood. 01:50:28
Willing to meet with you? I don't think that. 01:50:31
You know, I don't think that that's. 01:50:34
Like I, I don't think there's any kind of political like. 01:50:36
So you deputize Jacob Smith? 01:50:41
Or Jacob Wood to hold a meeting with every neighborhood and to start immediately. 01:50:43
And so this is the first time hearing of that. 01:50:48
So I was here, Yeah, let many of you know. 01:50:50
And many of them said sorry, we were told to wait. 01:50:53
And come to a meeting and vote and we're like, we don't even know what. 01:50:56
Voting on like. 01:50:59
I mean, there's a lot of stuff on that chat. It's like trying to read like and that's, you know, in the past. 01:51:01
Yeah, I just, I just want to say like we are absolutely willing to work with anyone here to try to get a solution so and I'd love 01:51:07
to hear more about the. 01:51:11
Neighborhood shield thing because. 01:51:15
Ultimately, occupancy is the biggest issue. So I mean, sounds like you've already had a consensus. It sounds like most of four 01:51:17
groups have it. 01:51:20
And so it's like. 01:51:23
Yeah, the person that's the leader. Please tell us how to do it, how to proceed. That's my. 01:51:24
There does need I still want to advocate for the the formal community meetings. 01:51:30
I I wanna bring up this point and. 01:51:35
I'm not doubting you all at all. 01:51:37
In the last 24 hours or so. 01:51:41
I've gotten a dozen emails. 01:51:44
From people that are angry we're even talking about this tonight. 01:51:46
Serious. 01:51:49
Correct, and that's what I'm I'm asking for help with. 01:51:50
I suspect. 01:51:54
That these emails. 01:51:55
May be people who are already in violation. 01:51:57
And subsequently they don't want the. 01:52:00
The parking to be enforced or subsequent. 01:52:02
Investor owned. 01:52:05
So we don't know who they are. 01:52:06
Many of these emails. 01:52:07
And I actually. 01:52:09
Maybe Jesse, that would be a point I need to ask about is I don't know if I can disclose their information. 01:52:09
Many of these emails are citing things. 01:52:15
Like. 01:52:19
We're not being included in those discussions. They know that I'm against it, so they won't let me talk. 01:52:20
Everybody knows this town. 01:52:25
No, they're not correct. They're talking about your group chats, your community chats, those kind of things. 01:52:27
Right, but. 01:52:32
But it but it's what I'm really asking for is I just want to make sure that. 01:52:33
When we have this meeting, can we make sure the invite goes out to the neighborhood, use the ward text roster or any of those kind 01:52:37
of things? My question is what meeting was try was attempted to be arranged with Bridgeport? 01:52:42
That people deny. 01:52:47
So because Hamlet does not live in fridge. 01:52:49
So for Bridgeport specifically, I'm curious who was reached out to. 01:52:51
When that meeting was. 01:52:55
Who denied it? 01:52:57
It looks like it looks like there's just what support is still needed. 01:52:58
So. 01:53:04
Correct. Yeah, so. 01:53:06
People are frustrated and saying that they won't even listen to all of these members who have been trying. 01:53:08
We have been working with Ezra for right, but Ezra, so the vote that night was. 01:53:14
Why have to start over? 01:53:19
We don't need to. We don't need to. We can meet Thursday. 01:53:21
Confusing point right there and where because. 01:53:25
Because if we were to do that, we would. 01:53:27
We would put a poster on every single door that day. 01:53:29
We would like you got to go through a public process. I don't know what GroupMe and it wasn't a public GroupMe and it wasn't 01:53:32
identified. You guys have to realize. 01:53:36
By deputizing you guys, we have to do things various, so a neighborhood you have to would. 01:53:40
It's no, no. What do you need us to do? We have to designate a neighborhood captain is. 01:53:45
Tonight it sounds like there's four neighborhoods that want to go through and do this. 01:53:53
We could do this Thursday. I mean, we could do it Thursday and, and many things we could start as a group right here in this 01:53:56
meeting. 01:54:00
We can start at 6:00. 01:54:04
If that works for Friday or Saturday, we're very flexible on what it is. 01:54:05
But to get every person in four neighborhoods together at one time, we could start doing educational thing all at once. 01:54:08
Through each one of the different things, the different options that are available. 01:54:15
This is my question. 01:54:18
And then break off into four groups to vote and to make decisions to come up. But who are you to say what conversations have and 01:54:19
have not already happened within the Bridgeport neighborhood? 01:54:23
Because we already have, and that's what we're coming to say, is that we need this to happen as a government agency a little. 01:54:28
GroupMe, Facebook, that happened with, that's not where all the conversations have happened. That's what I'm saying. Like you 01:54:34
don't even know what has happened in Bridgeport over the past couple months for a meeting to bring it all out, to do it in the 01:54:38
public. 01:54:41
To who? 01:54:45
That's what I'm asking. City Council meeting and voted to put Jacob Wooden. I was in that meeting. 01:54:46
And there was number communication to me after the fact that anybody wanted to meet with me. 01:54:52
Jacob, are you listening to this? Can you chime in? But we voted in the public meeting and said. 01:54:56
Because I was under the impression that Jacob reached out to people and I was there not to meet with people until after this and 01:55:01
my name was on the record and it said Ali Reed from Bridgeport, and I never heard a single thing after the fact. 01:55:06
So I don't love that there's more hoops that we're trying to jump through. 01:55:12
Like, we still need to do this. Let's do this, let's do this, let's do this. 01:55:16
Let's take a 5 minute recess. 01:55:20
Let's take a 5 minute recess. 01:55:22
Let's do that. Let's recess. We're doing good, though. 01:55:23
Well. 01:55:26
I want to make. I just want to make sure everyone's getting hurt, right? 01:55:27
So do you guys want to take a research or you want to keep going? 01:55:30
Keep going whatever you want man. 01:55:34
Ezra, did you want to say something? You've been wanting to say something. 01:55:36
Go ahead. 01:55:39
I would love to. 01:55:40
Thank you. 01:55:41
I don't. 01:55:44
I don't have any issues with. 01:55:47
Neighborhood. 01:55:49
At the work session I expressed my support for it. 01:55:51
I want to be very clear that. 01:55:55
This parking program that's being proposed is not going to solve. 01:55:57
All problems. 01:56:01
But it will absolutely address the low hanging fruit of when. 01:56:02
You have more than. 01:56:06
Six cars. 01:56:07
Out on the street for one household. 01:56:09
You've got. 01:56:11
One or 2% of the neighborhood causing. 01:56:12
15 to 20% of an issue. 01:56:14
And. 01:56:17
I think all this other stuff is great, like we're going to work on code enforcement. Sheriff's already been hitting it hard, but 01:56:18
we need to do more. 01:56:21
And part of this. 01:56:25
Will this help? 01:56:26
Each home. Each home has. 01:56:29
Sufficient amount of parking. 01:56:31
For their own needs, their own cars and encourage people to use. 01:56:33
Their driveways as well. 01:56:37
And so I just want to read the resolution that's being proposed real quick. 01:56:38
It's very short. 01:56:43
I, I I. 01:56:44
Gave the framework and. 01:56:47
2 council meetings ago and then talked about. 01:56:48
Or two weeks ago in council meeting. 01:56:51
And there have been a couple changes that. 01:56:53
I've made based on. 01:56:56
Community input and feedback that that I've received. 01:56:57
And I don't. 01:57:01
Like me meeting or talking with neighborhoods? 01:57:03
People that live in my neighborhood, people that. 01:57:06
Know me and just want to express their opinions. 01:57:08
As a member of the Council, I don't. 01:57:11
I don't feel like I have been trying to. 01:57:13
Circumvent anything that Jacob Wood's doing or Jake Hold away or anyone else on the council is doing it. 01:57:17
Why don't you add us into group chat? 01:57:23
Why don't we know about it So two weeks ago? 01:57:25
I framework Did you imagine how frustrated we are though guys like. 01:57:29
It's well, right, I know, but like. 01:57:32
Ezra. 01:57:38
Don't keep going. 01:57:40
Thank you, Sir. 01:57:41
So anyway. 01:57:43
Have a. 01:57:45
Some conversations with folks through many, many meetings. People reach out to me on Facebook Messenger. 01:57:47
It will reach out for your text. 01:57:52
Not everybody is going to be supportive of this. No, no policy is going to get 100% support ever. 01:57:55
In the history of the world. 01:58:00
I've had some great discussions with with people who. 01:58:03
Say I. 01:58:05
Move specifically to an area that's not an HOA because I don't want any regulation. 01:58:07
I don't want to deal with any of this mess. 01:58:12
And I I've taken. 01:58:13
Thoughts into consideration in this proposal? 01:58:15
And my hope is that we can have something that's very low barrier to entry. 01:58:18
But will address. 01:58:23
Some of the biggest issues that we have, which is. 01:58:25
More than. 01:58:28
Two or three cars in a home, parking on the street, taking up space for everyone else. 01:58:29
Which causes. 01:58:33
Like the after effects of people parking illegally because they still want to park close to their homes. 01:58:34
And so if you. 01:58:38
Reduce the amount of parking that's available overall. 01:58:39
Then that should. 01:58:42
Naturally help without a bunch of resources from the city doing code enforcement. So here here's here's a proposal that I had. 01:58:43
So there's six points here. 01:58:49
Number one permits are required for parking vehicles. 01:58:51
Overnight between hours of 1:00 AM to 5:00 AM on public streets. 01:58:54
And the permit program neighborhoods which? 01:58:58
I would include the seminar Bridgeport. 01:59:00
The Garden. 01:59:02
And included a blank that sounds like a Maple is super on board. I would love to include them as well. 01:59:03
To be proactive in that effort. 01:59:08
Each household in the permit. 01:59:10
Program Neighborhoods is eligible for. 01:59:11
See if a free parking permit if requested. 01:59:13
And here I haven't included whether they're. 01:59:16
Paper or digital? 01:59:18
But I think. 01:59:19
Great points were made about the digital passes. I would love to see that so people don't have to constantly remember. 01:59:21
To move those and they just register their cars and then they're done. 01:59:25
Each household may receive a second free permit for household if they are either. 01:59:29
And owner occupied non rental unit. 01:59:33
Or an owner occupied rental that has. 01:59:35
Complied with all applicable city codes and maintains an active. 01:59:37
Applicable business or rental license, including provisions to provide enough parking spaces on the property. 01:59:41
So we then encourage people to work with the city if they're having these rental units as well. 01:59:46
Non rental units may be eligible for a third free permit. 01:59:51
If they can demonstrate to city staff that there's insufficient parking for their household. 01:59:54
Based on the number of drivers and their family. 01:59:58
That's something that I brought up two weeks ago and asked for. 02:00:00
Council input on. 02:00:03
Heard a lot of. 02:00:04
Feedback from the residents that. 02:00:05
Hey, if we if we allow this, this is going to. 02:00:07
Get more broad support. 02:00:09
Be a lot easier to implement for people and. 02:00:10
And provide that balance between people who don't want any action. 02:00:12
And people who do want. 02:00:15
Some enforcement decisions. 02:00:16
And then I added. 02:00:18
All decisions by city staff regarding ineligibility based on that belt criteria. 02:00:20
May be reviewed by the City Council for final determination. 02:00:24
So that we take. 02:00:27
The opportunity to weigh in on any of those decisions if people are denied. 02:00:28
Enough parking passes. 02:00:32
Additionally, the temporary permits that may be requested for up to two weeks at a time. 02:00:35
And that the program will be noticed to the permit program neighborhoods through door hangers, social media. 02:00:39
And any other method that staff use necessary to inform the public. 02:00:44
And that enforcement would begin May 28, 2026, which is? 02:00:47
The Thursday after Memorial Day, so going into Memorial Day weekend. 02:00:51
That's plenty of time to let the public know. 02:00:54
Let people know that this is happening. 02:00:57
In those neighborhoods. 02:00:59
I do feel like this would just be a great first step. 02:01:01
To help. 02:01:03
Give code enforcement something to enforce, like in the Gemini. 02:01:05
There's no rules about how many cars you can park on the street. You could park 1015 cars on the street if you wanted to. 02:01:09
As long as you move every 48 hours. 02:01:14
And so if you have code enforcement for something. 02:01:16
That isn't a law. 02:01:19
Or isn't a rule. 02:01:20
Then it wouldn't solve anything on. 02:01:21
On the amount of parking that's happening on the streets and causing the. 02:01:23
The safety issues that people have talked about and the other issues as well. 02:01:26
I do recognize that. 02:01:31
People aren't all going to be supportive of this. 02:01:32
But I do think. 02:01:35
A lot of the community have. 02:01:36
Exercise their right to organize as a community. 02:01:38
To reach out to. 02:01:40
Their council members. Their their neighbors. 02:01:42
And a lot of people know. 02:01:45
I don't think we should be putting guardrails on how people. 02:01:46
Interact with their government. 02:01:49
And I fully encourage doing all of the above like. 02:01:51
Have the meetings with with Jake. I've never. 02:01:55
Tell anybody not to meet. 02:01:57
With a council member. 02:01:59
On something that's going to happen in their neighborhood and I haven't done that. And so I just want to be. 02:02:01
Clear that that. 02:02:05
That is the case if there is any doubt that. 02:02:07
One of the issues, though, is that people speak to you, they they assume they've spoken to the city. 02:02:09
So that everyone got the message they gave to you. 02:02:15
I think. 02:02:17
So wait. 02:02:19
You guys thought you spoke with the city when? 02:02:21
So I know, but it's just so odd that we're finding out about this in 24 hour like. 02:02:31
I thought about this. 02:02:36
Two weeks ago I brought this up because we, and that's the thing that actually made me the most mad. And now that James brought it 02:02:37
up, I'm just going to open it up. This was a political trap and I'm just going to call it what it is. 02:02:42
This was ********. 02:02:47
And I'm not mad at you guys about it. I'm not about how this was handled specifically. 02:02:48
Recognize this? 02:02:52
If Ezra brings this up with less than 24 hours notice, which we as a whole Council have agreed. 02:02:54
That we were going to try to get the agendas out a week prior. 02:02:59
And we've done a good job of extending that right. We've been doing it on Fridays. 02:03:03
But this was brought up with less than 20 or 24 hours notice. Now if we don't agree to put this on the agenda immediately. 02:03:07
This is then weaponized to say that the mayor is blocking a City Council member and that's not the reality of the situation. We 02:03:14
want to have the discussions. We want to hear you guys out on this stuff. 02:03:18
OK, so then we put it on the agenda. 02:03:24
And it comes to the City Council. 02:03:26
And if we vote no on it? 02:03:28
We are the immediately the bad guys even though. 02:03:30
Our direction was subverted. 02:03:33
When we said let's have a community meeting. 02:03:35
Then if we vote yes on it. 02:03:38
You get a quick political win. 02:03:40
The reality is. 02:03:43
It totally acted in bad faith and that's not a reflection on the residents. 02:03:44
That's a reflection on how. 02:03:48
The City Council is currently operating and I think that that's bad. We need to have these conversations before and it shouldn't 02:03:50
be political gamesmanship because it does them a disservice. We just real quick, we just would have advised to post this for. 02:03:56
Seven days. 02:04:03
We would have advised to have the group. 02:04:04
In a like, let's identify a Facebook group where the conversation is happening. 02:04:06
So we can read all the comments. None of us are in any of these comments, OK? So we have no idea on the back and forth of what's 02:04:12
going on. 02:04:15
And Jacob would are 100% in the dark on this. 02:04:18
Would you please? 02:04:22
I would like to offer a solution I feel like. 02:04:24
Almost all of us here. 02:04:28
Feel like we're missing important pieces of information? 02:04:30
And so. 02:04:33
Would like to offer. 02:04:35
That I can. 02:04:37
I can be a liaison for Bridgeport this week. 02:04:40
I would love to. 02:04:43
What if we were? 02:04:45
Please let me finish. I'm sorry. 02:04:47
I would love. 02:04:51
To talk with any and all of you really quick. 02:04:52
About what information and what stipulations you need from our neighborhoods. 02:04:55
And I would love. 02:05:00
To get you guys involved in whatever conversations we are having on paper. 02:05:02
And I would love to. 02:05:07
To take some time, I know you want to move fast, We also want to move fast, but the reality is that. 02:05:08
We are people with children, with evening activities, and we can't always get our whole neighborhood together. What about them? 02:05:14
And so. 02:05:21
We would like. 02:05:22
To, you know, even just have a day and 1/2. 02:05:24
The If Thursday is the day, what if we want? 02:05:28
Zoom six and eight. Yeah, I'm just trying to find a solution here. 02:05:30
I am trying to offer one. Thank you. 02:05:35
I'm willing to be a liaison to. 02:05:39
Gather the correct information. 02:05:42
And share that correct information. 02:05:44
In as many avenues as possible with my neighborhood. 02:05:46
So that we can have a meeting. 02:05:49
That is approved and recognized by the City Council. 02:05:51
And that our neighborhood knows about so that we can address this. I'm sorry that it didn't happen in the past the way that you 02:05:55
guys wish it had. 02:05:58
I'm trying to move forward now. 02:06:02
Yeah, so. 02:06:03
I'm offering that as a solution. Is that acceptable to you? 02:06:04
I think that's great. I think that, yeah, I think that's awesome. 02:06:07
And let me just back up a little bit. 02:06:10
The best part about? 02:06:12
Being the mayor and this new form of governments don't have a vote so much for whatever you guys want to do. I'm cool with it. 02:06:13
I know you guys meet the rules. I enforce the rules, right? And you know. 02:06:20
To Parkers point, we are actively recruiting code enforcement. If anyone knows Dog the Bounty Hunter like I will hire him tomorrow 02:06:24
we put it. 02:06:27
We posted it. 02:06:31
And I think that. 02:06:34
I ought to speak from my seat. 02:06:36
The emails I've gotten. 02:06:38
Have been. 02:06:40
Much more against this. 02:06:42
What then for it? 02:06:44
That's just my lived experience over the last 48 hours. And I think that probably, Jake, these gentlemen have it figured out that 02:06:46
they're probably people that are. 02:06:50
Out of. 02:06:54
The loop out of the not out of the loop. Or maybe they're they're thinking like they're not following the law right now anyways. 02:06:56
But that's for reality. Like. 02:07:02
If I go through my it's it's. 02:07:03
It's a lot more against and for it and I. 02:07:05
And so that's, I think they've received quite some of them as well. 02:07:08
One of the decisions, I mean. 02:07:12
We can do it over that night. 02:07:14
OK, you have. 02:07:16
When this dropped, none of us knew that was going to be on the agenda. 02:07:18
So we got bombarded. 02:07:21
Like 12 to 15 emails going. 02:07:23
How come I didn't know about the referendum language? Why couldn't I look 'cause we we ran on? 02:07:25
Working sessions seven days in advance, throwing it out, having everyone know. 02:07:29
And then the other thing is is what is the? 02:07:34
Approved communication channel? Is that a Facebook group? 02:07:37
Is it a GroupMe? 02:07:40
And which is it to be able to hear? 02:07:42
And then? 02:07:44
The city staff in monitoring those comments. 02:07:45
Because not everything. 02:07:49
You're told is true, so you'll have like a neighbor that is an investor person. 02:07:51
That is the problem that is telling us something. 02:07:56
And so you're like. 02:07:59
OK, we don't live there. Is this person real or not? Is it real? Does that make sense? That's why that meeting is so critical of 02:08:00
like. 02:08:04
We've got to hold that meeting so and that's why we, that's why we as a council just came together and said. 02:08:09
Jacob Wood. 02:08:14
Like, make sure that there's a referee. 02:08:15
And there's going to be winners and losers, but in that meeting that we can hold. 02:08:18
And then? 02:08:23
This is the general plan of this neighborhood. 02:08:24
As a government entity. 02:08:28
You've got to give ample time to say this is the plan. 02:08:30
And you've got to go through public notice of so if we were to meet Thursday. 02:08:33
It might be hard to turn around a plan to say well. 02:08:38
Will knock doors. 02:08:42
And I don't know if. 02:08:43
You could say turn around to vote on it on a Tuesday. 02:08:45
Because we're seven days away, but we are voting next Tuesday. Yeah, we have to. So we could easily vote on that and get those 02:08:48
other, you know. 02:08:52
This is a general solution and have four different plans that say this is what we're what we're going to be doing and I could grab 02:08:56
the leaders. 02:09:00
Tonight we'll stay up till in the morning. 02:09:03
Educating you on These are the decisions, and these are the. 02:09:06
Pros and cons, and this is some of the things that we've learned. 02:09:09
Right, because I. 02:09:12
I don't know if my neighborhood wants me as a representative, but I am. Well, that's what you're here. 02:09:13
No, to be honest with you, that's what that's what the choosing. 02:09:19
In that meeting we will be doing that. So whoever shows up, yeah, just so you know, in that first meeting where to go. 02:09:25
Hey. 02:09:31
Tell me about your neighborhood. 02:09:31
And if you can submit some names before. 02:09:33
You know, talk trash privately, but he'd be like, hey, I don't want this person. Like help us understand. 02:09:35
Have a quick vote. 02:09:39
But then also. 02:09:40
How does this neighborhood communicate? 02:09:41
Does it communicate on GroupMe? 02:09:43
Does it communicate on Facebook? What are the best ways? 02:09:45
And is that public? 02:09:49
So that everyone is involved in that. 02:09:50
Group, because we cannot deny public comment. David Kyle, you know. 02:09:53
Could you do that? Could you? 02:09:57
Facilitate using like the cities e-mail list to e-mail all of the houses in those neighborhoods to notify them when the. 02:09:58
You can't do that. 02:10:05
I think we can post it. We can post it and push it on the social media. Yeah, we can post on social media. We also just to answer 02:10:07
your question if you want a more immediate. 02:10:11
So we have an option to. 02:10:16
There were two Ezra sent in resolution. 02:10:19
But then. 02:10:22
The mayor's office has a resolution as well. 02:10:23
Filled with parking. 02:10:26
And it's. 02:10:27
Design more to work with up. 02:10:29
With the Neighborhood Shield. 02:10:32
It gives. 02:10:34
The administration more flexibility. 02:10:34
In terms of. 02:10:37
The timing of the enforcement. 02:10:38
So in theory, you could actually have enforcement instead of waiting until. 02:10:40
May and May we could be enforcing the middle of April, if not sooner. 02:10:44
Again, citizens haven't seen that one. Well, what? Yeah, No, no, it's online. It's online. It is online from you posted in the so 02:10:50
it. 02:10:54
When there was a miscommunication yesterday and it didn't go online until earlier today, but it's there. 02:10:59
Go ahead, Tony. 02:11:06
I have just. 02:11:09
A direct question. 02:11:11
For Vineyard government. 02:11:13
Point blank, what is your source of truth platform? How? 02:11:15
Do you want to communicate with? 02:11:19
Your neighborhood. 02:11:22
What is going to happen because I have no problem following a GroupMe. 02:11:23
A Facebook, but I do get app fatigue where I'm tired of getting notifications from the. 02:11:28
So I would like to see Vineyard. 02:11:33
Government. 02:11:37
Establish what the source of truth is. If I need to go check the government website because I want to be involved, I'll go there. 02:11:38
But to have all of these? 02:11:45
Right, good citizens are have good intentions and where everything has to be officiated anyway. 02:11:47
What is going to be the source of truth moving forward, even for a meeting on Thursday? 02:11:52
Where is that going to be public? 02:11:57
Or published, so we are aware of it. Yes, that's true. 02:12:00
So that's what we're going to say something. 02:12:02
Yeah, I just wanted to respond to a comment so. 02:12:05
I sent this resolution in on Friday. 02:12:07
Talk to the mayor. 02:12:11
Said yeah, there was. 02:12:13
Miscommunication. 02:12:14
We definitely need to do something. 02:12:15
We talked about it at the. 02:12:17
Saint Patrick's Day race which is great as well. 02:12:19
So I never. 02:12:23
It was never my intention to have you guys see this 24 hours in advance like those minor changes that. 02:12:24
I made from 2 weeks ago and. 02:12:30
Told you guys hey, there's a bunch of residents that. 02:12:31
Have talked about doing a solution like this. 02:12:34
That was never my intention, so I apologize if you did feel blindsided by that. 02:12:38
But I just want to thank the mayor for. 02:12:43
Including and revising the agenda and allowing. 02:12:45
Us to take action if we did choose to do so. 02:12:47
Today or. 02:12:50
Whenever we would like. 02:12:52
Yeah, let's do this. 02:12:54
Sorry. 02:12:57
So I just did. I just wanted to 1st like. 02:12:59
When Jacob said, hey, we're all trying to be on the same page and be willing to do something. 02:13:02
You have me. 02:13:07
Because that's exactly where we're wrong. Where do we just want something? 02:13:08
Yeah, for sure action and we wanted something that. 02:13:11
That's different than what we have said the last five years. 02:13:14
Yeah, OK. 02:13:17
I do have a little problem. 02:13:19
With believing. 02:13:21
That you guys got headed up 24 hours ago. 02:13:23
At least it's just hard. 02:13:25
And as a as a resident of this. 02:13:28
And as somebody that comes from. 02:13:32
To work like it is a little concerning. 02:13:34
To see how you. 02:13:37
Are interacting. 02:13:40
And and. 02:13:42
I just hope, and I'm going to give you all the benefit of doubt. 02:13:44
That you don't use these emotions to make decisions because that's the worst thing. 02:13:47
And you know. 02:13:52
So that being said. 02:13:54
Coming from the Naples, we did meet. 02:13:57
With the City Council member. 02:13:58
We did not have. We had about 10 or 15 people we talked about. 02:14:01
This permit plan. 02:14:04
So is that not official? 02:14:06
I mean, is that kind of? 02:14:08
And what what what makes it official? Did you put the plan? I mean, did you put the plan on every door like the agreed upon plan? 02:14:10
So that's that's is that's what makes it official is. 02:14:16
Well, I mean so. 02:14:19
We're going to be adjusting the right. 02:14:20
I mean, yeah. 02:14:23
We're going to be adjusting the ranks of. 02:14:24
Homeowners, right? Yeah. So public disclosure of this is happening. 02:14:26
Was it notified that? 02:14:30
The your first original meeting because. 02:14:32
Public, the public decision that we made. 02:14:35
Was. 02:14:37
Jacob, what is authorized to do this not as Renaissance? OK, so we didn't even know it was occurring. 02:14:38
Like I didn't know about your meeting. 02:14:43
And so and then so and I'm very. 02:14:46
There were angry calls last night. 02:14:49
To our city. 02:14:51
Manager and our attorney and I was like, how in the hell did this happen? Yeah. And why didn't I know? 02:14:52
And so I was like, we're going to have a bunch of people angry. 02:14:57
Who is their leader? 02:15:00
What is the document? 02:15:01
What decisions did they make? 02:15:02
What messaging? 02:15:04
System did you use? 02:15:05
Did we verify that? 02:15:07
Because we're going to be infringing upon people's rights to the public. Rd. 02:15:08
Like. 02:15:13
You know, putting in an HOA type. 02:15:14
Towing Enforcement. 02:15:17
Where we're deputizing them and not having us. 02:15:19
Is a massive change because none of these people moved into an HOA. 02:15:23
But we're going to be doing that, which if the group is deciding to do. 02:15:26
We're so aggressive in wanting to do. 02:15:30
Like legally, we did none of that. 02:15:32
And so like we want to move on doing and say, OK, we've got to this is the. 02:15:35
Communication system. 02:15:39
This is the notice. 02:15:41
So we can back it up and say we hit every single door. 02:15:42
We fired it. We did a second meeting. 02:15:46
And then we. 02:15:48
Put it on the City Council meeting for seven days. 02:15:49
And we came back and said, guys, we deputized this. And so none of those public actions. 02:15:51
What threshold threshold are you? 02:15:56
So like. 02:15:59
Historically in the city, the rule was 75% and we recognized that that was not realistic, especially in the seminar in the 02:16:02
Bridgeport areas where there's so many renters. 02:16:06
So we came back and we said, look, even if you're. 02:16:11
Close to 50%. We just want to make sure that there's an actual consensus because. 02:16:13
Both weeks that we've had this on the agenda. 02:16:18
We get blown up the night prior with angry emails that wonders is on the agenda and two people that don't support it. And I 02:16:20
recognize that it's unpopular to say, but we are also responsible for representing the renters in Vineyard. 02:16:26
Yeah. And look, we want to do what's best for the community at large and the homeowners and we want to make sure that this is a 02:16:31
safe place especially. That's why my focus is more on the safety aspect of it. 02:16:37
But it's. 02:16:42
We just have to make sure that. 02:16:43
Everyone is being notified and everyone's brought into the loop and that the information is being disseminated in a way that. 02:16:45
Everyone can participate and give public comment. 02:16:50
Yeah, and. 02:16:53
I was here 2 weeks ago you City Council meeting. 02:16:54
And this is your agenda from Vineyard website? 02:16:57
This is all it says. Council member would lead a brief discussion regarding proposed changes of towing enforcement. 02:17:01
There was discussion among council and residents. 02:17:06
Presented how to implement changes. 02:17:09
As well as how to counsel with HOA's, the council decided to continue the item and hold the. 02:17:11
Longer discussion at a later date, correct? That's a different. That's the. This is the tenant. 02:17:16
What's that correct? That that discussion was about lakefront? You're thinking the one that you want to know. This is predatory 02:17:21
touring 24 hour. 02:17:24
Correct. That's OK. But even 1 from 2 weeks prior, it would have been a month ago and even OK. So two weeks prior though we did 02:17:28
have a discussion about it again. 02:17:32
We talked about towing and we talked about enforcement. 02:17:36
Yeah, but but even very. 02:17:39
I think it's it's. 02:17:42
But even then. 02:17:43
But what I'm saying is you guys are. 02:17:44
Accusing us of political entrapment, which I think is a little bit extreme if I'm being, if I'm being honest, we have no idea and 02:17:46
like we're trying to like. 02:17:49
Ambush or something. This has been a problem we've been talking to you about for a long time, and the last I heard two weeks ago 02:17:52
we came. 02:17:55
With concerns and. 02:17:58
None of us got invited to a meeting or not. None of us. Maybe one of you, one of us did. 02:18:00
And so. 02:18:04
We want it to work, but I just don't want. 02:18:05
The political. 02:18:08
Politics to get in the way of like what's what well, it is right now it's getting in the way of it right now because you're 02:18:09
accusing us of trying to trap you into a vote I don't even think anybody in here has suggested has suggested that we. 02:18:15
Demanding a vote. We're just here to support. Like, that's why I'm here and that's why we come up here. 02:18:21
Is to support but. 02:18:26
To have you sit here and accuse us of. 02:18:27
Trying to go behind your back or something. It's just poor communication is what it ultimately is. You know what I mean? So. 02:18:29
We just, we just want a solution. I don't. 02:18:34
I'll work with anyone to get a solution, but. 02:18:37
All this talk about like we're trying to. 02:18:39
Trap you in to make a decision I think is just unproductive. So let's just have a let's just have a discussion about. 02:18:42
Or make a plan because the last meeting that I came to. 02:18:48
The thing was like we just talked about at a later date and then it got second and then it was off the table, you know what I 02:18:51
mean? So that's. 02:18:54
Let's just have some action that's that's still on, you know, let's do a motion. Let's do it. 02:18:56
I make a motion that. 02:19:01
A1 representative from each. 02:19:05
Neighborhood Can you stand up? 02:19:08
Not the leader that's selected, but just. 02:19:11
Get the message out, leader. 02:19:13
So we have. 02:19:15
There we go. 02:19:16
So you guys seminar. 02:19:17
Gardens. 02:19:20
Maples. 02:19:22
Hey. 02:19:24
Are you listening to? 02:19:28
OK, but it's just to get the message. 02:19:29
It's just to get the message out so that on social media. 02:19:32
We can help you and we can find all your Facebook groups. 02:19:36
So between here and then. 02:19:39
Are you guys able to act? 02:19:41
Thursday or Friday? 02:19:43
We have the interfaith thing Wednesday. 02:19:45
Tell me pregnant more people than negative. 02:19:46
OK, now. 02:19:49
We are we able to get printing out? 02:19:51
The doors on that meeting on all four neighborhoods, or could we get the printing off? 02:19:54
To get to these leaders that they could hit it on every door so we've. 02:20:00
Public notice. So we've fulfilled with public notice requirements. 02:20:04
That's a lot. I know. That's what I'm saying. So we've got to fulfill with that, right? We can't. 02:20:09
We don't want to get sued for not fulfilling the public, not like. 02:20:14
So. 02:20:18
It's like so we are thinking that it's similar. 02:20:23
But if we did it at the exact same day and time. 02:20:26
To find out in the meeting that you can separate it, let's just do this. What's your motion? 02:20:29
My motion is that. 02:20:33
We motion that these 4 individuals are. 02:20:35
Helping us. 02:20:38
And scheduling a meeting Thursday night. 02:20:39
And that that meeting will be convened to put together with. 02:20:42
All of their neighborhoods and we will go over the rules and regulations and options at the beginning of that meeting. We think we 02:20:45
can get that done in. 02:20:49
15 to 20, maybe 30 minutes. 02:20:53
And that those 4 neighborhoods or three depending on if they break up in the group when they talk. 02:20:56
Then break up and organize their decisions to come back. 02:21:01
And then we could go and. 02:21:05
Finalize that and. 02:21:07
Paper document. 02:21:08
And digitally as well. 02:21:10
So that the following Tuesday we can vote upon the plan of what those neighborhoods. 02:21:11
OK, awesome. Do I have a second on that tentatively, tentatively based upon the decisions of the, I mean obviously of? 02:21:17
The groups. 02:21:23
I think we have pretty much consensus. 02:21:24
Right. I think we there's a broad range of. 02:21:27
We're going to be doing something. 02:21:30
There's many different options of what that is, and it's individual. 02:21:32
Like on what it is. 02:21:36
But I would also ask that tomorrow I'm available. 02:21:37
So if we could meet the leaders to go through and educate about what those options are. So they're pre. 02:21:40
We could do an educational thing. 02:21:45
We could even do this straight like on a Facebook Live, so that it's a little bit easier for those to attend, like at 10:00 at 02:21:47
night. 02:21:50
Like we are more than willing to wait to go through. 02:21:53
And educate, but there's some tough decisions that you guys are going to make. That's a neighborhood. 02:21:55
Let's drive a second to that motion. That's a long motion, Kate. 02:22:01
Can I ask some clarifying questions? Yes. 02:22:05
So we'll notice it is a. 02:22:09
Public City Council meetings so that everybody can attend. 02:22:10
Yeah, that I know. That's a struggle too with just. 02:22:12
With the corn, do you want a corn? 02:22:15
I would like to attend. 02:22:19
The Jason boy will be there, so the three of us will be here. I don't have a vote, so you guys just tell me what to do. 02:22:21
So there's. 02:22:26
This is going to be. 02:22:28
And I'll just highlight like that, that's one of the struggles of. 02:22:30
You know, we have all these rules and regulations on. 02:22:34
Public meetings and we. 02:22:37
We noticed them on the Public Notes website. 02:22:39
So that we can all have. We can't meet five of us without going through all those steps. 02:22:41
And so that's why this this process and official council meetings are so important in my opinion. 02:22:46
I'm happy to call a special meeting if we would like to do that, just so everybody can attend. 02:22:51
But I don't. 02:22:55
I don't feel like limiting the discussion to just. 02:22:57
One or two council members is. 02:23:00
Better when we can just have it with all of us have it out. Yeah. Can we just bring the neighborhoods in? 02:23:02
Like 1 after another hour by hour block or something and just do it in here. 02:23:07
I think the semantics we can. So the motion is, the motion is we are going to. 02:23:11
Is that OK? Are you getting this, Tony? All right, so let's. I'm just glad, OK. All right. 02:23:19
This is the motion. 02:23:29
The motion is we are going to have a meeting. 02:23:30
On what is the motion, Jake? 02:23:32
Yeah, you said they're going to be meeting. 02:23:35
I make a motion that the four captains selected this evening from the four different neighborhoods. 02:23:39
Are going to be helping get out the word throughout their various. 02:23:45
Messaging apps the best that they can, all the different ones that are. 02:23:48
Available. 02:23:51
For a meeting on Thursday night. 02:23:52
We will allow for a different time flexibility. 02:23:55
That we hopefully at the end of this night we can find out. 02:23:59
And then? 02:24:02
In that meeting. 02:24:03
We will discuss the various options and we will pick leadership. 02:24:05
To be able to do it and hopefully present. 02:24:08
Basics of a plan. 02:24:10
That then can be sent out to the neighborhoods to be ratified. 02:24:12
Or voted on at the next City Council meeting on Tuesday. 02:24:16
March 31st. 02:24:20
31st. 02:24:21
OK, do I have a? 02:24:22
If they so need more help. 02:24:25
Or time you know there's. 02:24:27
Just there's. 02:24:29
Angry emails say I wasn't included. 02:24:31
But if if it's like, hey, but The thing is, is this this. 02:24:33
All right. That's my motion. That's your motion. 02:24:37
Do I have a second? 02:24:40
2nd. 02:24:43
Parker seconded. 02:24:44
All in favor, aye? 02:24:47
I, I what time is? 02:24:50
Tuesday's council. 02:24:52
Next 6:00 PM. Is that work for you? Yeah. 02:24:54
OK, we'll bring the 6:08 PM. 02:24:57
And and if if Jacob Wood says I so it doesn't. 02:25:00
I don't think I have anything else, can I? 02:25:04
Can I excuse myself to go meet with them throughout the rest of the meeting? 02:25:06
Just the leader, yes, let's do that. Because if we're going to do that next Tuesday, I've got to get through some other stuff 02:25:10
regarding the other things. So should we do like a? 02:25:14
Do you want to? 02:25:19
OK. 02:25:21
All right, we'll keep going. 02:25:23
All righty. 02:25:25
Motion passes. 02:25:26
OK. You guys want to recess? 02:25:30
The bathroom. Can you give me like 3 minutes? Give me like 3 minutes. 02:25:38
Yes, if you would like to reach this, we can hit the gavel. It doesn't count. 02:25:44
4 minute reset. 02:25:49
Good job, Mayor. 02:25:54
16. 02:25:56
You are live. OK, We are going to come out of recess now. 02:32:23
Get back after it. 02:32:29
Um. 02:32:31
So we need to do let's motion to move 8.6 to next week. 02:32:34
We need to officially do that right? 02:32:39
Move 8.6 next week. OK so can I get a motion? 02:32:40
I move, we continue 8.6 to next week. Tuesday's meeting. 02:32:44
You have a second, all right? All in favor. Aye, aye. 02:32:49
OK, motion passes. 02:32:51
All right, let's jump down to. We're going to go to the. 02:32:53
Arch Commission. 02:32:56
Portion 10.2 Let's go arch. 02:32:58
Teddy. 02:33:02
OK, discussion, right? I'm just gonna do it from over here. 02:33:03
You're all by yourself. Where did 1 go? 02:33:07
There we go. 02:33:11
All right, go ahead, Brian. 02:33:12
OK. 02:33:14
Apologize for the wait. 02:33:16
But yeah, so essentially. 02:33:20
Have some final thoughts for you? 02:33:23
When we met with the Arts Commission. 02:33:26
Last Thursday. 02:33:28
We didn't have enough to do a formal vote, but I got. 02:33:30
Basically their thoughts to bring before you. 02:33:34
We'll move forward with that. 02:33:37
Why is this not only had two commissioners there? Is that right? 02:33:39
We had three, but one of them had recused themselves of a vote. 02:33:42
And so we couldn't officially vote. 02:33:47
Something in particular. 02:33:50
Let's see. 02:33:54
Why is this showing up with two screens? 02:33:56
Oh, because we have. 02:33:58
So OK. 02:34:00
Legal counsel. 02:34:03
OK, well if you can't see this, I'll just go through this. 02:34:04
Briefly and I'll answer any questions that you have. 02:34:07
Vineyard Library had. 02:34:10
The highest? 02:34:12
Overall score from the Arts Commission. 02:34:14
3630 is the Max that they could get. 02:34:19
What was mentioned earlier by a resident is that. 02:34:22
There's potential they could get $130.00 less so it's between awarding full to Vineyard library. 02:34:26
Or Utah Valley Symphony down below. I'll go over that here in a second. 02:34:32
Friends of the Vineyard Library. 02:34:37
They requested 2000 they had the second highest vote from the Arts Commission. 02:34:38
They'd like all of them to. 02:34:44
They'd like them to get the full budget. 02:34:46
That specifically would. 02:34:48
Go towards a second weekly story time. 02:34:51
Paying for staff to do that, it would pay. 02:34:54
Also $800 worth. 02:34:57
To go towards adult. 02:35:00
Books. 02:35:02
For the library as currently we do not have any. 02:35:03
Adult. 02:35:06
Books. 02:35:09
For children. 02:35:10
$0.00 recommended for Carry On which is the skate park group. 02:35:13
Just put the skate park coming in. 02:35:17
Vineyard Heritage Foundation. 02:35:22
Reached out and said that. 02:35:24
Instead of their original request of 15,750. 02:35:25
That they could. 02:35:30
Make do and carry out the project. 02:35:31
For 11,000. 02:35:33
So it was talked about that we give them the full budget that they requested with that. 02:35:36
Utah Valley Symphony. 02:35:42
Is umm. 02:35:43
Again, either of those numbers. 02:35:45
And then Utah Lake Foundation would be 1500. 02:35:47
This is for a paddle with care event that starts in Vineyard. 02:35:51
And is about drowning prevention. 02:35:57
That holds the 20,000. Happy to go into more detail if you have more questions on specifically what all those would be allocated, 02:36:00
clarify earlier. 02:36:03
Right. It's where you have the oars on the top of the library and then for is that the Symphony? 02:36:07
Yes. Umm. 02:36:13
You did clarify that. 02:36:15
The difference is between those 2 exactly. 02:36:16
The Arts Commission, they were fine with either option, they said let the City Council decide how they want to. 02:36:20
Do that. 02:36:26
As far as Council discussion goes, if I can just jump into that, I would prefer that the funding goes to the library. 02:36:27
OK. Any other adjustments to this? 02:36:34
I would love to. 02:36:43
Do both kind of. 02:36:46
If we could give the one. 02:36:49
30 instead of taking me out of the Vineyard library, which is the government. 02:36:51
Operation umm. 02:36:55
The Friends of the Vineyard Library. 02:36:57
Takes donations. 02:37:00
And so if we could. 02:37:01
Take the 1:30 out of that and give it to the Symphony. 02:37:02
I'll backfill the rest. 02:37:06
If we want to do that. 02:37:08
Can I ask and? 02:37:09
Brian, chime in please, but also Ezra, share your thoughts. 02:37:11
What is the net? 02:37:16
Benefit of us giving to the Symphony. 02:37:18
Did they come and put on a show and then do they still charge us tickets and admission? 02:37:21
No, they'll put on a free show for Vineyard Days. 02:37:26
But the the main portion of this. 02:37:30
Budget is specifically to do a fanfare, so it'd be a recording. 02:37:33
That basically be a theme song for Vineyard for Vineyard events. 02:37:37
My personal thoughts and I've I've shared this. 02:37:42
Publicly before. 02:37:47
Was that? 02:37:49
I think that there's a lot of opportunity. 02:37:50
For the library to grow and what I. 02:37:53
Have. 02:37:56
Advocated for this money to be used for is to cede the. 02:37:57
Fundraising efforts. 02:38:01
And help with the. 02:38:03
I don't want to say revenue generating programs because the goal of the library isn't to generate, you know, a profit or anything 02:38:05
like that. 02:38:08
But to help implement the programs as necessary to cover the operating costs. 02:38:10
Right, for example. 02:38:16
One of the things that they're working on right now is implementing. 02:38:18
Payment essentially an annual fee for non residents. 02:38:22
To use our library card system. 02:38:26
With that, there will be expenses, things like payment processing fees. 02:38:29
So I'm I'm. 02:38:33
Interested in? 02:38:35
The allocation to support those type of efforts and then also support. 02:38:37
The Friends of Vineyard Library in their fundraising process. 02:38:41
You know I I have a question about. 02:38:46
About the library being funded at all. 02:38:48
Yeah, when we were. 02:38:50
When the previous mayor sold us on the library concept, it was going to be something that never cost the city a cent. 02:38:52
It was all we all we donated efforts. 02:39:01
And they? 02:39:03
They will use the old city, the old City Hall and torn down. 02:39:04
Use a room over there. 02:39:10
And it would be a children's library. 02:39:11
Children's books and so on and so forth. 02:39:13
OK, but we already have. 02:39:16
Four other children's libraries. 02:39:18
In the city. 02:39:20
Each of which has expressed. 02:39:23
Speaking to the. 02:39:25
Librarians and principles of the schools involved. 02:39:26
Have expressed that the. 02:39:29
I'm more than happy to to help the citizen. 02:39:31
A vineyard. 02:39:34
Whatever their library needs are. 02:39:35
And so it seems redundant. 02:39:38
To spend. 02:39:40
Not worthwhile for the city to spend money. 02:39:42
On a library system. 02:39:45
That's already built. 02:39:46
And already structured. 02:39:47
Already in place. 02:39:48
And this weren't happy to. 02:39:50
To work with us, I mean, if we have to spend some monies to. 02:39:53
To help the. 02:39:56
You know, library or libraries of choice. 02:39:57
Be able to handle. 02:40:00
You know, accepting. 02:40:01
Library cards from the, you know, from the public in general I could see that risk, but. 02:40:04
Well, why are we trying to recreate the wheel? We've already got four wheels. 02:40:08
So I think one of the. 02:40:12
I think let's. 02:40:15
Glad to ask Parker. 02:40:17
Something that I've been. 02:40:19
Looking at I've shared this with staff, I talked to the library board about it. 02:40:20
There was a lot of, I think, missed opportunity from the previous administration. 02:40:24
In recouping operating costs for the library. 02:40:29
And I don't want to say that it was. 02:40:32
You know. 02:40:35
Not to paint anyone in a negative light. 02:40:37
But action just wasn't ever taken to. 02:40:39
Make that as efficient as it could be. 02:40:42
And I see a lot of opportunity for the library to actually become truly self-sustaining. 02:40:45
And to envision that, I've met with the library board. I've met with the Friends of Vineyard Library. 02:40:50
And I think we have a pretty good. 02:40:55
Plan in place that would. 02:40:57
Essentially. 02:40:58
If implemented appropriately. 02:41:01
Significantly raised their operating budget. They just need the help to get to the point to actually be able to do that. 02:41:03
At this point. 02:41:09
Awesome. 02:41:11
Any other comments? 02:41:12
About 10.2. 02:41:14
OK, seeing none, I will take a motion. 02:41:17
Oh, hi, Jacob. 02:41:20
I'll motion to. 02:41:23
Approve the. 02:41:25
Recommendations with with. 02:41:28
The noted adjustment to move. 02:41:29
$130.00 from the Friends of Vineyard library to. 02:41:32
The Utah Valley Symphony. 02:41:36
And I want to include it in the motion because it'll just be a personal donation, so. 02:41:38
OK. All right. 02:41:44
Do I have a second? 02:41:46
OK. Sorry, hold on. 02:41:50
You said you were going to make a personal donation to. 02:41:52
Recoup the. 02:41:54
Money that. 02:41:55
Advocating to pull out. Why wouldn't you just donate it to the Symphony then? 02:41:56
I don't know how to donate to the Symphony but OK. 02:42:00
So. 02:42:04
That wasn't part of the motion. 02:42:06
So the motion is. 02:42:07
Holy smokes, tonight is a. 02:42:09
All right, one more time is there. 02:42:12
Somebody. 02:42:14
Yes, fund the recommendations as is with. 02:42:16
Moving 130 from the Friends of the Vineyard Library. 02:42:18
The nonprofit that'll have the donation like that, I've got. 02:42:21
To the Utah. 02:42:24
Awesome, do I have a second? 02:42:26
2nd. 02:42:28
All right. All in favor, aye. 02:42:28
Aye, aye. Motion passes. 02:42:31
OK guys, we're getting stuff done tonight. Two things. One, now that is in motion. 02:42:35
Thank you, Short and sweet 2. It's a resolution. This is a resolution that is right. So let's do a roll call. Council member 02:42:39
Mccumber votes aye. 02:42:43
Councilman of Wood votes aye. 02:42:49
This is the same thing. Same vote. Yeah. Same vote. Yeah. It's a it's a resolution. The race is yes. 02:42:52
OK, Councilman Renair. 02:42:58
Yes, yes. 02:43:01
Great. Yeah. 02:43:02
All righty 10.3. 02:43:04
Creation of an event committee and off. 02:43:08
Authorization. 02:43:10
For the committee to establish a nonprofit. 02:43:12
DK do you want to? David Child, do you want to? 02:43:15
Explain this real quick the thought behind. 02:43:18
This yes so. 02:43:20
This. 02:43:22
What what this will do? 02:43:23
Is this full? 02:43:25
Create a nonprofit where? 02:43:27
Volunteers from our city. 02:43:31
Can raise funds for Vineyard events. 02:43:34
And. 02:43:37
Vineyard. 02:43:38
Projects that will benefit the community. 02:43:40
And it will also establish a committee under the direction of the City Council. 02:43:43
To administrate. 02:43:47
Awesome. 02:43:51
Any questions for David Kyle? 02:43:52
OK, sorry I didn't say. 02:43:55
Is there a backup document on this or is that just the broad direction would be? 02:43:57
Did they not get the back of that? 02:44:01
OK. 02:44:05
It should be on there. 02:44:07
I got some of those angry emails about parking in here. 02:44:10
There's even more. 02:44:19
If we get an e-mail, we put it in your packet. 02:44:24
Thank you for that. 02:44:26
OK. 02:44:28
I don't see. 02:44:31
Is it in my resolution funding? No, it's not electronic. 02:44:32
I'd like to get that. Would you like to put it on the screens? 02:44:37
How long is it? 02:44:45
Oh, go ahead. Oh, it's not online to you. 02:44:46
That's the. 02:44:49
I don't know why the creation of this Commission. 02:44:52
What's that? 02:44:56
Are you tying any funding to the creation of this Commission? No. 02:44:57
Is it a? 02:45:03
Continual Commission in the sense that it will operate 365 days a year, or is it? 02:45:05
Exclusive maybe springtime through Vineyard days each year. It will help facilitate all Vineyard events. OK. 02:45:10
So all year. 02:45:18
I'm supportive of the concept. Could we maybe just continue this to the next week meeting so we can? 02:45:22
Have the backup. 02:45:26
So that. 02:45:27
He's gonna pull it up. 02:45:28
Yeah, that's what he's trying to do right now. 02:45:29
OK. Can we take public comment on it? 02:45:33
Yes, well, it's here we go. I guess it's right here. 02:45:35
We've had plenty of problems. 02:45:41
You can't say that you're the mayor. 02:45:47
I'm inclusive in all decisions. 02:45:50
Not made it. 02:45:56
I'm sorry. OK, let me. 02:46:00
Ninja. 02:46:02
Please. 02:46:12
He's gone again. 02:46:28
I don't read that fast. 02:46:34
Staggered terms for two or four years. 02:46:39
Chair. 02:46:43
OK, so this is like an official. 02:46:45
What's the advisory? Is it advisory? 02:46:48
Can I get a week on this? 02:46:51
Is there? 02:46:52
Is there code? 02:46:53
Associated with the creation of this that's. 02:46:54
Is it in this packet? We just haven't got to it yet. 02:46:56
This I mean this resolution creates the. 02:46:59
Commission, OK. 02:47:02
We already have. We already have code for. I think it would be. 02:47:06
I think it would be. 02:47:11
You know, being that we're going to have a merge, a special session next Tuesday, it would work to. 02:47:12
Move this Tuesday. 02:47:19
That is special in the sense that it's outside the regular, it's outside of the regular schedule. I already planned my vacation. 02:47:21
Yeah, if. 02:47:29
If there's not an immediate urgency for this there, there is an emergency. 02:47:31
Because we'd like to use it for. 02:47:35
For Vineyard days coming up, however, we could, do you know, another week for work Tuesday? Yes, Yes, exactly. Yes, fine. 02:47:37
We don't. We don't need it tonight, but we don't need it in a month. 02:47:44
Understood. OK. 02:47:47
Did you have? 02:47:49
I would like public comment. 02:47:50
To ask if it could be. 02:47:53
Yeah, I agree with that. I agree to move it. 02:47:56
I think it would be a great idea, David. So could you make a motion, Ezra? I will move to continue this one week second. 02:47:59
All in favor. 02:48:05
Aye. 02:48:06
Awesome. 02:48:08
Jump to the. 02:48:09
That's it, Don. 02:48:12
No, hey, we got the travel policy. 02:48:13
Oh, we went out of order. 02:48:16
Yes, we did. 02:48:17
OK oh, travel policy. I'm so glad I got a pen out of this meeting. 02:48:18
So on the travel policy, I know. 02:48:27
I know we had a lot of comments in the work session. 02:48:30
Did all those get on there because. 02:48:33
One was. 02:48:37
35 miles on the 50. I thought we wanted to try to standardize that, but. 02:48:38
I think all the other comments got on there. 02:48:42
Yeah, I think we still need to adjust the. 02:48:46
Was it the language and the resolution or the language in the just the actual policy itself I think was the issue. Is it just 02:48:51
standardization of like the the miles? 02:48:55
Just making sure reconciling I believe it was. 02:48:59
It was 50 miles. 02:49:03
Like we had the, we talked about it last week, but you've got. 02:49:05
You know, approval for anything beyond 50 miles. But then we have like. 02:49:09
You could get. 02:49:14
Nighttime or what was the 35 miles to the local travel or? 02:49:15
The other one. 02:49:20
Yeah, we just want to make sure that the wording was right, yeah. 02:49:21
OK, I didn't like read through and make sure all the red lines got adopted, but I just saw that one in there and that was like, 02:49:24
oh. 02:49:28
Yeah, sorry. I might have been working with the order draft of that. 02:49:31
Packet so. 02:49:35
Our goal is to get. 02:49:40
Is to try and get at least a few of these each month. A few of these. 02:49:41
Policies in place so we can picking them off 1 by 1, taking them off one at a time so we can pass our next audit. 02:49:45
OK. 02:49:52
We're super close on this. I mean, I feel like a work session. We all kind of. 02:49:57
We're on the same page. 02:50:01
Can we just get? 02:50:02
Any public comment if the public has any comments and then approve it on consent on. 02:50:04
Next Tuesday if we need to do that. 02:50:08
Just to make sure all the edits got an error. 02:50:10
If we can go through that, it's now and make sure yeah, I just I just read it and I think this looks. 02:50:12
Fine, I didn't see anything. That's a red flag to me now. 02:50:17
You want to. We can read it together. 02:50:20
But I'm happy to continue it. If you want to continue it and take more public comment on it, you know what, let's just approve it 02:50:22
and then just. 02:50:25
Clean it up so like take the brackets out since we already decided that. 02:50:28
Put it all in. 02:50:31
The standard language and you guys can make those. 02:50:32
Sounds good technical, and it's something Lizzie kind of like approved with the edits made during the last. There we go. 02:50:35
Awesome. 02:50:41
Can I get a motion? 02:50:42
I move to approve Resolution number 202618, a resolution adopting travel and expense reimbursement policy for personnel and 02:50:44
authorized representatives with. 02:50:49
The edits and clarifications that we made in the previous City Council meeting. 02:50:54
Awesome. Thank you. Awesome. 02:51:00
All in favor. 02:51:02
Aye, OK. 02:51:04
That's a resolution, so we'll call. 02:51:06
Councilmember. 02:51:09
Parker Mccumber votes aye. 02:51:10
Would votes aye? 02:51:12
Aye. 02:51:15
Awesome. 02:51:16
Aye, resolution passes. 02:51:17
OK. So the last is going to be department appointment of? 02:51:19
The Planning Commission appointment. 02:51:23
We have a empty seat in our Planning Commission. 02:51:25
And uh. 02:51:28
I AM. 02:51:29
Asking. 02:51:34
That we appoint Daria. 02:51:34
Evans to fulfill that vacancy. 02:51:37
So moved. 02:51:41
2nd. 02:51:42
All in favor. 02:51:43
Aye, aye. 02:51:45
Wait, hold on, is this a? This is a consent of the. 02:51:46
This one does not need a. 02:51:52
Awesome. 02:51:56
Congratulations, welcome. Thank you for your willingness to serve. 02:51:57
Sure. Appreciate it. 02:52:00
OK. All right. That's all we have. I think that's all we have for tonight. 02:52:02
And. 02:52:06
Yeah, that's right. Where are you in tonight? Please talk to us about how you're going to. 02:52:10
No. 02:52:17
So yes, let me make sure I have the wording right, because as many times as I do it, I'll forget it once. 02:52:21
While you're pulling that up, if I could just have a. 02:52:28
Point of. 02:52:30
Privilege. 02:52:32
Thank you all for the discussion tonight. 02:52:34
I know things. 02:52:36
He did it and I'm bummed that everybody left before they got to see us. 02:52:38
Cordially getting business done as well. 02:52:42
But I I've. 02:52:44
I've got no. 02:52:45
Personal animus towards anyone. 02:52:47
I respect all of our our council members and. 02:52:49
I know there's mutual respect there and. 02:52:52
Just grateful to to serve on this on this board and what these great people and residents that are. 02:52:55
Engaged, involved and. 02:53:00
So thank you so much for. 02:53:01
Being here and. 02:53:03
Participating. 02:53:04
Thank you. 02:53:05
All right, we have the. 02:53:06
Come on up here, let's get a picture of are you guys. 02:53:09
Yeah. 02:53:15
Please right hand for me. 02:53:25
OK. 02:53:28
OK, let's get in the background. 02:53:30
This is so awesome. Make sure you get the wording right here. 02:53:37
Yeah, no pressure, right? 02:53:41
All right, let's go ahead and repeat after me. I state your name. 02:53:43
Aria Evans. 02:53:46
Hi, Maria Evans. 02:53:47
Having been appointed. 02:53:49
Having been appointed to the Planning Commission to the Planning Commission. 02:53:51
Do solemnly swear. 02:53:54
To. 02:53:57
Support, obey, and defend. 02:54:01
Support, obey, and defend. 02:54:03
The Constitution of the United States, the Constitution of the United States, and the Constitution of the State of Utah. 02:54:05
And the constitution of the State of Utah, and then I will discharge the duties. 02:54:10
And then I will just start discharge the duties of my office. 02:54:14
With Fidelity. 02:54:18
Outstanding. 02:54:20
The pressure on you. 02:54:26
Thanks so much. 02:54:34
Thank you. Thank. 02:54:36
Thank you, Jacob. Thank you. 02:54:39
Whenever I get to that song. 02:54:41
It doesn't count until he hits the gavel. 02:54:52