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	All right, we're going to go ahead and start the regular Vineyard City Council meeting. Today is June 11th, 2025 and the time is.	00:00:03
	531.	00:00:13
	And we're going to start with an invocation and on the Pledge of Allegiance, and I'll go ahead and provide that.	00:00:14
	Father in Heaven, we're so grateful for this.	00:00:20
	Day and opportunity to gather together as a council and I pray that.	00:00:22
	We will be.	00:00:27
	Collaborative and work together in a way that is uplifting to this community and helps us to.	00:00:29
	Provide for a strong future for the city and languages. Christ. Amen.	00:00:34
	Alright.	00:00:38
	1 nation underground.	00:00:43
	Universal liberty and justice for all.	00:00:52
	All right. As we begin our meeting, we actually have, we're going to start out by going into a closed meeting.	00:01:00
	Umm, if one of you would like to make a motion.	00:01:08
	About what we're going into a closed meeting about for the.	00:01:13
	Public. That would be excellent.	00:01:16
	I move to go into a closed session for the discussion of the character of professional competence or physical and mental health of	00:01:18
	an individual.	00:01:22
	And is there another thing that we need to talk about, or are we?	00:01:28
	Do we say the potential?	00:01:32
	Yeah. I think it also has potential litigation and potential litigation, OK.	00:01:34
	All right, We can I get a motion? I made the motion. Thank you, Marty. Can I get a second?	00:01:40
	Second. Second by Sarah. All in favor, aye.	00:01:46
	What we're going to do is we're going to go into a processing in another room and then we'll come back in and join you again in	00:01:50
	just a little bit.	00:01:53
	All right, we're going to go ahead and.	00:02:01
	This back to order.	00:02:02
	I did want to make sure counseling. I remember you guys were aware that the.	00:02:05
	Mayor had another appointment tonight so.	00:02:09
	Before we get started, I do need to get a nomination from Mayor Pro Tem ****.	00:02:13
	I nominate Sarah Cameron.	00:02:17
	2nd.	00:02:20
	OK, let's do a roll call, Jake.	00:02:22
	Yep, that's great for me.	00:02:26
	Aye, Marty.	00:02:29
	And Sarah, hi, Awesome. All right.	00:02:31
	I will turn the time over to you then.	00:02:35
	So you can just start with. We're in the already.	00:02:53
	We're going to do the RDA meeting.	00:02:58
	No, I still had it going through it.	00:03:00
	We were going to finish the City Council.	00:03:03
	Yeah, yeah, for a 3.1.	00:03:08
	Correct. I have us at 3.1 the fraud risk assessment presentation.	00:03:27
	No, you're good.	00:03:35
	I'll take over from there. Thanks, Sarah.	00:03:38
	Once a year, each municipality is required to do a fraud risk assessment and present it to council as part of part of their annual	00:03:43
	audit.	00:03:47
	And so that was included in your packet.	00:03:53
	We are once again in the low category, which is a good place to be low fraud risk.	00:03:55
	And so we just had to report that to the Council as.	00:04:00
	But there's no vote. I don't believe that has to take place. It's just a matter of informational.	00:04:04
	Do you have any questions?	00:04:09
	When you do this and report it back to us, is this also something that goes to the state?	00:04:13
	It is. It's a report that we have to upload to the state auditor's website and also provide to our independent auditor who comes	00:04:18
	in and does our audit.	00:04:22
	OK. So maybe can you clarify for the public what?	00:04:27
	What that entails exactly?	00:04:32
	A big part of it is making sure that within the finance department we have separation of duties.	00:04:34
	Because obviously we deal with public funds and we want to make sure that someone doesn't have access to bring them in and send	00:04:40
	them out.	00:04:43
	And so a lot of that has to do with that. That's the main point, is making sure their separation of duty. It's also making sure	00:04:46
	that we have written policies that have been approved by council.	00:04:51
	And we have to have both on record.	00:04:57
	Done by ordinance so that we have those.	00:04:59
	It really is just a great reminder of the things that we need to be doing and working on.	00:05:01
	It asks one of the questions is that do we have our fraud hotline, which we do, and they can do the info at Vayner, Utah, you	00:05:06
	know?	00:05:10
	So it's just a lot of questions related to.	00:05:14
	Risk for fraud Risk in the city.	00:05:19
	OK, excellent. Does anyone have any question?	00:05:23
	No, OK. Thanks, Christy.	00:05:27
	So now we'll go to the work session 4.1.	00:05:30
	Sorry, were we asking? So if we had any questions? Yeah, I did. Sorry.	00:05:34
	Didn't pause long enough I guess.	00:05:39
	Hey Christy, is this the state mandated annual fraud risk assessment we just fill out as a checklist of of things that are in	00:05:41
	place? Yes, it is.	00:05:46
	OK, it's not the state auditors.	00:05:52
	The other stuff.	00:05:55
	No, we, we supply this to the state auditors website as well as to our independent auditor as part of our audit process.	00:05:57
	But yeah, that this is just the annual reporting requirement that usually happens towards the end of the fiscal year.	00:06:05
	OK, all right, let's say that all cities do this. OK, right. It's a mandatory requirement.	00:06:12
	Yeah.	00:06:18
	That's all I have.	00:06:21
	Thanks. OK, perfect. Any other questions?	00:06:22
	No. OK, so now we're going to a work session 4.1.	00:06:27
	Budget discussion.	00:06:31
	As far as the budget discussion, we were just going to.	00:06:40
	Provide a reminder to.	00:06:43
	That on the 25th of this month we are approving the final budget.	00:06:47
	For FY20 6.	00:06:52
	And to remind council and Oregon the public.	00:06:55
	That we have this time.	00:06:59
	To review and make sure that we've addressed any last questions or concerns or.	00:07:02
	Edits that are requested. I know that Marty supplied a few of those and we're.	00:07:07
	Working through those as well.	00:07:11
	As providing understanding on what each of the elements of the budget.	00:07:13
	Meant so if there are lingering questions, be sure to shoot us an e-mail that can go to Christy or myself.	00:07:18
	And we'll make sure that we get responses back to you in a timely fashion before that meeting on the 25th, OK?	00:07:23
	Perfect.	00:07:30
	OK, any questions from the Council?	00:07:31
	No, no pause for J.	00:07:35
	Our public comments and.	00:07:41
	Coming up next.	00:07:42
	OK, so now we're.	00:07:44
	Going to public comments.	00:07:46
	Tony has a comment that was submitted to be read.	00:07:49
	Yes, at the beginning.	00:07:52
	Yes, I've got a message from Tyler Harrelson.	00:07:54
	And I'm just going to go ahead and read that into the record now. That's Tony. Yeah. Would we go into?	00:07:58
	Couple tournament session.	00:08:04
	We open that up officially.	00:08:05
	It's not a public hearing, so we're there.	00:08:08
	Let's see, OK, I'd like to make a high level comment regarding the council making budgetary decisions.	00:08:15
	As you Council members are looking at projects both during budget decisions and in the future.	00:08:22
	Please take extra consideration of the replacement and ongoing maintenance costs of new infrastructure.	00:08:27
	The group Strong Towns have some good material about what they call the growth Ponzi scheme.	00:08:32
	If you haven't read about it, I'd encourage you to look it up.	00:08:37
	They outline how many American cities in the past have grown quickly but failed to properly consider maintenance costs.	00:08:40
	Causing them to take on a great deal of debt and get into financial dire straits decades later.	00:08:45
	To give an anecdote close to home, I know a gentleman who has done some landscaping for various clientele, including American Fork	00:08:50
	City, where he lives and grew up.	00:08:55
	He posted a little video of this time last year outlining an issue he called Polka dot Lawn.	00:08:59
	At one of their parks which had been there since he was a kid 40 plus years ago.	00:09:04
	He showed a substantial section of the park covered in lots of crunchy yellow grass.	00:09:08
	With patches or polka dots of green.	00:09:12
	Explained that the sprinkler heads or water pressure likely had an issue.	00:09:15
	And needed to be fixed. The sprinklers were not spraying far enough.	00:09:18
	So only a few little patches of grass were green. He then explained that he'd reported many issues like this before, but he'd	00:09:22
	report this. But they'll probably say.	00:09:26
	Yeah, we know. We don't have the resources. I'm not in a rich city.	00:09:31
	They scrounge a lot for what we get. American Fork decades ago made the mistake Stronger Towns outlines in their growth Ponzi	00:09:34
	scheme material.	00:09:38
	As clearly evidenced by this part.	00:09:42
	As my acquaintance said, they don't have the money to maintain it and fix the issues. This is likely because the decision makers.	00:09:44
	Did not pay close enough attention to the ongoing maintenance.	00:09:51
	And replacing the cost of the park infrastructure and likely of other projects such as roads.	00:09:54
	Sewer systems etc.	00:09:58
	Another quick anecdote, if you've ever heard of lead poisoning from the water pipes in Flint, MI.	00:10:00
	That was also caused by lack of funding for ongoing maintenance of infrastructure.	00:10:06
	A much more consequential example than a yellow grass though.	00:10:11
	Vineyard is a relatively young city by comparison, and I'd like for us to learn from my financial mistakes.	00:10:14
	Of those cities who came before us.	00:10:19
	We can give the next generation a better future by being careful about the maintenance costs.	00:10:21
	We leave them to handle.	00:10:26
	As a last note about this, I'd like to also recommend you focus on actual tax and fee dollars.	00:10:27
	Paying for the infrastructure, Many industry professionals will recommend a Rd. widening.	00:10:33
	As they predicted, saving thousands of people 15 seconds of time each day on their evening commute.	00:10:37
	Multiplying that time by a multiplier of dollars per hour.	00:10:43
	This is nice, but we cannot pay for a Rd. widening with saved 15 second increments of time.	00:10:46
	We must pay with actual dollars.	00:10:51
	We must also maintain the road using actual dollars.	00:10:53
	Same thing for increased jobs. We do not have an income tax in Vineyard.	00:10:57
	So we can't pay for infrastructure with more jobs.	00:11:00
	That is all my comments today. Thank you for your time and for your public service.	00:11:03
	Tony, was that book called The Growth Ponzi Scheme?	00:11:11
	He said it was from a group called Strong Towns and they have a material that they titled the Growth Ponzi scheme.	00:11:16
	OK.	00:11:24
	OK anyone that wants to speak in the public comments.	00:11:29
	Please come forward. I'm getting that set up too. Is there a time limit you'd like to set?	00:11:36
	Depending on I mean normally we have two to three minutes, but.	00:11:42
	Just yeah, whatever is normal. There's not very many. How many have want to speak?	00:11:46
	123 so 3 minutes I guess.	00:11:52
	Maximum OK.	00:11:55
	Thank you.	00:11:57
	Daria Evans Villas resident, Thank you very much for this opportunity to speak.	00:11:58
	I just want to give out to shout out for Vineyard Days. It was a success. I couldn't believe how many children were.	00:12:04
	All over where we were, we were doing the duck pond and milk toss. It was a lot of fun, but it was crazy.	00:12:11
	It was good and senior pickleball is fun. Thank you. We've got it going. We even did a PSA today. Did you hear about that? Hannah	00:12:17
	was taking a video. I hope it doesn't go.	00:12:21
	Got viral?	00:12:27
	I just have a couple of questions. I was wondering if you know why there is a plywood wall around the Vineyard Frontrunner	00:12:31
	station?	00:12:34
	I've been wondering that for a while.	00:12:38
	I'd like to know if you know what is happening with the Momentum climbing gym. Is it still coming coming?	00:12:40
	And, umm.	00:12:48
	What is the estimation completion date of the reconstruction at Vineyard Loop and Main St.	00:12:51
	And.	00:12:57
	At last City Council meeting, Mr. Ellis said we have acquired 7 water shares from developers. I would like to know how many acre	00:12:58
	feet of water that is. Thank you very much.	00:13:03
	Perfect. Thank you.	00:13:11
	So I asked the mayor.	00:13:13
	Do we ever just answer questions right after they are asked? And she said she used to do that.	00:13:15
	So is it OK if we do that?	00:13:21
	Yeah.	00:13:24
	OK, so I was wondering about the plywood too. Does anyone know about that?	00:13:27
	OK. Yeah, to answer the three different questions, the plywood wall.	00:13:31
	Is intended to provide marketing space for Utah City as new.	00:13:37
	Projects are coming along, The intention is for them to.	00:13:42
	Cover those in.	00:13:46
	In upcoming projects to be as informative about what they're up to in the downtown as they can be.	00:13:48
	As far as momentum.	00:13:54
	There is a pause on the momentum, as far as we understand.	00:13:57
	As they consider their options and their strategic plan going forward, so.	00:14:01
	We don't have a.	00:14:08
	A date to expect that.	00:14:09
	At this point in time.	00:14:12
	As far as the road.	00:14:14
	The estimated is part of our.	00:14:15
	Monthly report but the.	00:14:18
	June this month, we anticipate then completing that project. Are we still on track for that?	00:14:20
	June 22nd.	00:14:27
	Yeah, they're getting close. It's very nice.	00:14:30
	OK. And then did you want to talk about the water shares at all?	00:14:33
	Or we can talk about it after. We could grab that in a little bit each, each water share.	00:14:44
	Is different from each other and so we'll just have to tally up the acre feet that we're.	00:14:49
	That account for those shares that we were able to purchase.	00:14:54
	OK, perfect. Thank you.	00:14:58
	OK. Anyone else?	00:15:00
	Hi, my name is Keith Vincent. I also live in the villas.	00:15:08
	I I would like to ask rhetorically, how many of you actually looked at the line item?	00:15:12
	On the on the budget.	00:15:17
	Each of the different departments have several line items in the accounts.	00:15:18
	It was rhetorical, but just.	00:15:22
	Wanted to see if you're actually looking at those.	00:15:24
	Most.	00:15:27
	Most individuals and businesses.	00:15:29
	Budget by.	00:15:32
	Knowing how much their income is and then.	00:15:34
	Allocating that income to specific expenses.	00:15:38
	Successful individuals and businesses.	00:15:41
	Also budget to have savings and surplus.	00:15:45
	Most governments don't do it, they do it backwards.	00:15:49
	They spend what they're going to spend and then try to figure out how to raise taxes or debt.	00:15:53
	To cover those expenses.	00:15:57
	I would encourage you to not only.	00:16:00
	Look at the line items to see if they're one.	00:16:02
	Necessary.	00:16:06
	Required.	00:16:07
	And to what benefit we get from the city?	00:16:08
	For those for those line item expenses.	00:16:11
	For example, one of the line items is the City Hall, which I understand has now been put on hold.	00:16:15
	So is that going to come out of the budget or will that?	00:16:21
	$1,000,000 Stay in the budget and then be eligible to be spent.	00:16:23
	Somewhere else because you can allocate.	00:16:27
	Line items and move the.	00:16:30
	The things The other thing is that some of the funds are.	00:16:32
	Budgeting deficits and therefore transferring.	00:16:36
	Funds from other funds transferring money from other funds to cover deficits.	00:16:39
	Again.	00:16:45
	That's probably not best practices, so I just encourage you to to.	00:16:47
	The buck stops with you guys, right?	00:16:51
	You're the one ultimately responsible for our budget, and so I just encourage you to.	00:16:54
	Take a look at the line items and see are they necessary and required.	00:16:59
	And what benefit does the city get from them? Thank you.	00:17:02
	Thank you. Right, absolutely.	00:17:06
	Before, I just want to speak to that a little bit because before I.	00:17:09
	Start in this seat.	00:17:14
	I I would compare.	00:17:17
	I would try to compare my budget with a government budget.	00:17:19
	And going through the budget season last.	00:17:23
	Year was very eye opening.	00:17:25
	Christy, can you explain the maximum and the minimum the city's allowed?	00:17:28
	To save.	00:17:33
	And I think you told me.	00:17:34
	A few years ago we were over the maximum threshold and so you have to do things.	00:17:36
	Otherwise it shows the state that you're collecting more taxes than what you actually need, and that is not a great thing.	00:17:41
	Can you explain that a little bit so it makes sense?	00:17:48
	So the state requires and we're talking the general funds here.	00:17:50
	You can have between you have to have at least 5% and up to 35% of unrestricted funds.	00:17:54
	So it's like BNC Rd. funds, those are restricted for certain things. So those are not included.	00:18:02
	I'm just to give you an idea. Yes, last year we did have to make a transfer the two years before that.	00:18:08
	They didn't make the transfer. So we were over the 35% and that was Mark that was marked down in our audit.	00:18:14
	But last year they did get that transfer made into the capital projects fund, which is very common that for cities.	00:18:20
	Move on, sign this one. They're looking forward to future projects.	00:18:25
	Right now, currently with the budget that is set the way it is, we are going to start the year and end the year with 27%.	00:18:29
	So we feel really good about that number.	00:18:37
	Yeah, that's my understanding. Is that ideal? That's the ideal spot that a city wants to be in.	00:18:40
	Right, OK.	00:18:46
	Thank you. Appreciate that and thank you for your comment.	00:18:47
	OK, anyone?	00:18:50
	I came to talk to the RDA board but.	00:18:55
	There's a public comment period, so I will take that public comment period now.	00:18:57
	My first question is, is whether the Vineyard City fraud assessment of low.	00:19:01
	Is accurate? Does.	00:19:06
	I'm wondering if anyone on the council has direct or indirect knowledge of whether that fraud assessment is accurate or not.	00:19:09
	As a CPA, I think that that's important.	00:19:15
	And because you have a joint consolidated financial statement between the City of Vineyard and the RDA, I'm wondering if it	00:19:18
	applies to the RDA as well.	00:19:22
	My next question is.	00:19:26
	Does Vineyard Cities?	00:19:28
	Does Vineyard City and or the RDA send out legal analysis without being reviewed by the city attorney?	00:19:30
	That's my question.	00:19:37
	I would love an answer to that.	00:19:39
	If not.	00:19:41
	Does the Vineyard City and or RDA send out legal analysis without being reviewed by the city attorney?	00:19:43
	If so, that's highly unlikely unusual.	00:19:50
	Now.	00:19:54
	I received, I sent an e-mail to the board and I appreciate the board's response through one of your officers.	00:19:56
	Last week regarding what I came to talk to you about last time, which is T 2901.	00:20:03
	Which requires the RDA board.	00:20:08
	The taxing entity committee to meet in any year in which tax increment is given out, and I appreciate the response.	00:20:10
	I'm a little troubled by the response though, the legal analysis and the response.	00:20:16
	In that response, which was sent out in the packet also for today's meeting.	00:20:20
	Umm, but subsequently changed because I'm quite certain we're going to see a different legal analysis presented to you tonight	00:20:26
	than the one in the packet. I would ask you, as City Council and RDA board members to ask why that legal analysis changed.	00:20:32
	And I'm going to explain to you why it changed.	00:20:38
	So, but you can ask that question for yourself.	00:20:40
	There were four cases cited. CT versus Johnson, Jensen, Intermountain Healthcare.	00:20:43
	Hebrew, Lauren.	00:20:48
	Power, light and power versus Wasatch County and Grappendorf versus Pleasant Grove.	00:20:49
	Two of those cases that were cited do not actually exist in Utah case law, as was in the legal analysis.	00:20:54
	That's highly unusual.	00:21:01
	And the other two cases, there were actually direct quotes from those legal from those cases that do not exist in those case.	00:21:02
	OK, umm.	00:21:09
	Now I I disagree with the response of the legal memo, not in addition, in addition to the hallucinations.	00:21:10
	The clause.	00:21:17
	That I quoted last time was not mere super *****. It wasn't superlative.	00:21:19
	Or informal preference.	00:21:25
	The TC.	00:21:27
	Under Utah code 17C14024B, which authorizes TCS to cast votes that are binding on all taxing entities and to approve and	00:21:28
	disapprove project area plans, among other things, and among other things, allows them to demand to meet annually because to	00:21:35
	protect taxpayer funds.	00:21:41
	Now, the reason your legal analysis changed is because I tipped off.	00:21:48
	A reporter in the state of Utah.	00:21:53
	Regarding the legal analysis, which is faulty and in a recent case.	00:21:55
	In a recent case.	00:22:00
	Which?	00:22:01
	Garner versus Candace, 20/25/80.	00:22:02
	If I could, I just have one more, one more statement and then I'll be done, OK.	00:22:09
	In this Utah appellate course this year, Garner's attorney provided stake.	00:22:13
	Legal citations to the court.	00:22:18
	And was sanctioned.	00:22:20
	He had he was required to pay portions of the opposing party's legal fees and to reimburse his own client for fees for drafting a	00:22:21
	fake petition.	00:22:25
	And had to fund money into a charitable legal fund.	00:22:28
	I'm wondering what the consequences of vineyards sending out hallucinated and fake legal advice is. Thank you for your time, I'd	00:22:32
	love answers to those and I'll be happy to stay as long as necessary.	00:22:37
	So before the mayor left, she said.	00:22:42
	Keep your questions, write them all down.	00:22:47
	And we'll have a special RDA meeting where all of those questions can be addressed.	00:22:50
	It.	00:22:57
	Well, I think it's really important, right? Nobody wants to see anything done.	00:23:01
	Not in a transparent way. Definitely not in an illegal way.	00:23:06
	I'm Jamie, do you have any?	00:23:10
	Response that you want to John wants to follow up and send me.	00:23:12
	Whatever document it is that you think.	00:23:16
	Includes this.	00:23:19
	Last week.	00:23:21
	So I can answer some of the questions.	00:23:23
	And you're, you're thought you're referring to the memo from the RDA director with information on this?	00:23:26
	Oh, I'll take a look at it.	00:23:33
	I'm not out.	00:23:35
	Oh, right, sorry, you're not a microphone now, but.	00:23:36
	We are going to still do an RDA meeting after a regular council meeting, right? We just bumped it to the end instead of you. OK,	00:23:41
	let's just put a pause on that and we will continue that at the RDA meeting.	00:23:46
	Claudia Larae, just a quick question.	00:23:53
	Do we plan for?	00:23:56
	What the gentleman who sent in the letter said about.	00:23:59
	Oh my gosh.	00:24:04
	Infrastructure.	00:24:06
	Maintenance. That's it. Maintenance.	00:24:08
	Do we have a plan to, is it in the budget? Is that something we have? And I would.	00:24:11
	You know, encourage us to make sure we have one.	00:24:19
	You know our, our splash pad, all the all the parks really will take a hammer in and that's great. We love them being used.	00:24:23
	But let's make sure we don't fall into.	00:24:31
	Thank you. Just making sure.	00:24:34
	Agreed. I think one of the benefits of Vineyard is that we're very small.	00:24:37
	American fork is big and they have so many parts.	00:24:41
	I don't think I don't foresee that being a problem here.	00:24:45
	Because we're only four square miles.	00:24:48
	At completion, even downtown but.	00:24:50
	Yeah, priority, right. Agreed. Thank you, Karen Cornelius Bill is resident.	00:24:53
	Yes, we're small.	00:24:59
	Well, we have a ton of people and we're adding more, and that's a concern for me, but that's another topic.	00:25:01
	With our RDA.	00:25:06
	I probably know just enough to be dangerous, but I have a concern.	00:25:08
	And that is with the school district split, we will now only have 4 cities.	00:25:13
	Who are involved in the Vineyard RDA?	00:25:18
	Our taxes, our school taxes are extremely high because of the money diverted from the RDA to the developments.	00:25:22
	Now we will be sharing that with only four cities, not all the cities that we are currently sharing that with.	00:25:31
	Who are all a part of the Alpine School District.	00:25:38
	That scares me to death for the citizens of Vineyard.	00:25:41
	Whose school tax rate?	00:25:45
	Will increase astronomically because we are no longer sharing that deficit with other cities.	00:25:47
	So I hope that we can look at our RDA and do whatever we need to do.	00:25:53
	To make it equitable that we can still afford to live here.	00:25:58
	Thank you.	00:26:01
	Thank you. Yeah.	00:26:03
	And thank you Karen for your comment. There is a lot that goes into the school district split, but one thing to keep in mind.	00:26:06
	Is with the split we have.	00:26:14
	Besides funding and expenses, it also splits up the responsibility. There's a smaller area that we're covering.	00:26:18
	And then in addition with the RDA.	00:26:24
	Just for some fundamental.	00:26:26
	Perspective from my opinion.	00:26:29
	It is.	00:26:31
	Land that would have been limited in value that has already increased with the RDA so.	00:26:33
	A great example that Josh brought to us before and we could probably talk more about this during the meeting.	00:26:40
	But it was in the.	00:26:45
	$2000 a year property tax payment to the school district.	00:26:47
	1213 years ago and now they're making 41,000 a year from that same area of land.	00:26:52
	And we're still reinvesting 75% of that property tax.	00:26:57
	So we're increasing our value and that's just for a business area.	00:27:01
	Of property taxes that doesn't include the residential areas.	00:27:06
	So there is a lot of financial benefit and I have spoken with Alpine School District, I have spoken previously with members of	00:27:09
	Orem City Council and so far I've had nothing but encouragement and support and excitement for the development and growth of	00:27:15
	Vineyard.	00:27:22
	And that they see Vineyard as a long term investment.	00:27:28
	We've had nothing but support from all the other cities in our meetings with the inter local.	00:27:32
	With the four cities so.	00:27:37
	It's actually been very positive.	00:27:39
	And they're aware of our growing needs as well.	00:27:41
	OK, well, and and the point too. Yeah, we.	00:27:45
	We have.	00:27:48
	People. Umm.	00:27:50
	Or 4 cities.	00:27:51
	Right, that take on the school district.	00:27:52
	But we also don't carry the burden of Eagle Mountain and Lehigh, and all those bears cut me off.	00:27:55
	It's all good.	00:28:01
	OK.	00:28:02
	And answer to his questions, they're going to be answering yes.	00:28:05
	I wasn't.	00:28:12
	About you said there's going to be another RDA meeting to answer his questions, not the one tonight, OK?	00:28:13
	No, tonight. Tonight.	00:28:19
	Yes, we are going to do just a full RDA meeting focused on nothing but answering all of these questions. Yes, but not tonight. We	00:28:21
	will do the normal Rd. We will do a normal RDA meeting tonight right after this, but not answering his questions.	00:28:30
	We will answer, but if there's more, we'll have another meeting.	00:28:38
	OK, All right. Anyone else?	00:28:44
	No, OK.	00:28:48
	Now do I we make a motion to go out of the public.	00:28:50
	Oh, public comments.	00:28:55
	OK, umm.	00:28:57
	OK.	00:28:58
	Now it's time for.	00:29:00
	Council members reports.	00:29:03
	Can you get spread? Jake, you want to go first.	00:29:09
	Yeah. I would just like to ask this question of the public because in our last meeting.	00:29:15
	When we were talking about the RDA extension and.	00:29:23
	Vineyard City and us running the bill.	00:29:27
	To the legislature to extend the RDA. Umm.	00:29:31
	An additional 25 years.	00:29:36
	And then putting that into conjunction with Josh's memo today in this meeting where?	00:29:39
	He is citing that the RDA has no cat.	00:29:45
	On the collection.	00:29:49
	So.	00:29:52
	It's not 300 million that in Josh's memo, he's saying that it's there's no cap to it.	00:29:53
	So if we if.	00:29:59
	1st 18 months we've been told that there isn't there is a cap.	00:30:02
	But in the memo today, it says that there isn't.	00:30:07
	So if we if that bill really did extend an additional 25 years?	00:30:11
	Then we did actually give them hundreds of millions of dollars more, is that?	00:30:18
	That's my first question. And then #2 in the second meeting, in the meeting it was planned for was.	00:30:25
	Disclose that we were not hiring Mr. Hartley or Sage.	00:30:32
	Solutions to be the.	00:30:37
	Lobbyists to run the bill.	00:30:39
	However, in the Ledger it does show payments in 2019.	00:30:42
	And I don't really trust the media sometimes, but it was reported that he was the one that answered the questions.	00:30:48
	So it was assumed that he worked on the bill.	00:30:54
	And there are payments.	00:30:58
	Was he, did he in fact run the bill and did we hire him to do that? Those are my 2 questions.	00:31:01
	I have more on my report but those are my.	00:31:10
	Right. Those are OK. Did did you get those, Josh?	00:31:13
	Talk about those.	00:31:18
	At the RDA meeting.	00:31:19
	Did you have like?	00:31:22
	Anything else you wanted to talk about like more?	00:31:23
	Report related.	00:31:27
	You know, if I don't have, I don't have any reports.	00:31:30
	All right, Brett.	00:31:34
	What I wanted?	00:31:39
	Is that how great I think the city's been in responding to?	00:31:41
	It just in the last meeting.	00:31:46
	Where I wasn't able to attend that we were able to pass lowering the speed limit in Leshema not.	00:31:48
	As a citizen had raised that a lot of concerns over there and just how quickly that happened.	00:31:55
	I I had.	00:32:01
	It was one of the first times I've been through anything like that.	00:32:03
	And, umm.	00:32:06
	And I had set an expectation that was going to take a lot longer.	00:32:09
	And that the city could.	00:32:12
	Respond to all of the demand.	00:32:15
	And make it happen so quickly was really amazing and.	00:32:19
	And I just think it's a testament to what happens when we work together.	00:32:22
	And listen to the demands of our citizens.	00:32:26
	Love that. Thank you. That was that's been my experience too.	00:32:30
	Marty.	00:32:34
	Brett, did you want to talk about how amazing been your days was too?	00:32:37
	Vineyard Day was amazing.	00:32:42
	I'd love to thank staff is awesome.	00:32:46
	Thank you so much for all your hard work. I know that's a big week.	00:32:49
	I also wanted to report that the Interlocal meetings have been going well.	00:32:53
	We've all been working really well together at the four different cities. We're all really excited.	00:32:58
	To see how the school board seats pan out. I know that Vineyard specifically, I think has five.	00:33:03
	Candidate. Is it four or five candidates? I think 5 for our school board seat. That's the majority.	00:33:09
	I don't know, I shouldn't say statistics that I don't have verification on but.	00:33:16
	It's a mostly vineyard area with a little bit of Orem in it.	00:33:20
	And I know that the rest of the board seats and most of them have primary elections with several.	00:33:24
	Several candidates.	00:33:31
	I also wanted to say that our economic development meetings have been going well.	00:33:33
	We seem to be.	00:33:40
	The grocery store is still on schedule from everything that I missed the last time.	00:33:42
	At the grocery store song schedule Huntsman still ahead of schedule.	00:33:47
	And.	00:33:51
	Just a lot of excitement in that area.	00:33:53
	I think that was all I wanted to report.	00:33:56
	OK, excellent.	00:33:59
	Thank you.	00:34:00
	I just had a couple things.	00:34:03
	Because I took my grandmother out to the splash pad.	00:34:06
	And those shape cells made it so that the.	00:34:09
	Playground wasn't so hot so.	00:34:12
	I know I complained a little bit about them because they're so expensive, but.	00:34:15
	They're really, really nice, so well done.	00:34:18
	And I got invited to a last minute girls trip this weekend so I missed Vineyard days and I was so sad.	00:34:22
	But I heard about all the old fashioned.	00:34:28
	Games that that were played and I love that so much. We were in Nephi for 11 years. Enough.	00:34:30
	That's just how they did things there. And it's it's just.	00:34:36
	Umm, I just think it's good for the younger generation to get a little taste of that instead of, you know, the big.	00:34:41
	Carnival thing. Anyway, I love that so.	00:34:47
	I just wanted to say that and thank you to all of the work that that staff did put it on and make it excellent and for the	00:34:50
	beautiful part we got to have it in.	00:34:54
	Volunteers and volunteer, sorry. Yes. And volunteers, right? Yes, absolutely. Thank you so much to all of you who made it, really.	00:34:58
	Really fun, you know, I couldn't hear.	00:35:06
	OK. All right.	00:35:08
	Now we're moving on to consent items.	00:35:11
	Oh, sorry, stop.	00:35:15
	Staff and committee reports are.	00:35:16
	Yes. So I just wanted to.	00:35:19
	Wrap up one other question, the Water shares question.	00:35:22
	That represents approximately 101.5 acre feet of water.	00:35:26
	One OK, Thank you.	00:35:31
	Again, each different type of.	00:35:33
	Might have a different value of acre feet. These are the seven that we purchased were lake bottom irrigation canal.	00:35:36
	Shares and those ones are worth.	00:35:42
	About 14.5 acre feet per share.	00:35:45
	Do you think I'm in cups of water?	00:35:49
	I know quite a large number.	00:35:52
	OK, so I wanted to give a monthly report.	00:35:55
	For the city and.	00:35:58
	As always, it is quite a large report, 13 pages, so I would encourage everyone to review it.	00:36:00
	But I'll just hit on a couple of the highlights.	00:36:07
	All of our departments during the summer seem to be working.	00:36:10
	On hyper mode.	00:36:14
	So I'll just highlight some things they from our rec department.	00:36:16
	They hosted 229 soccer games.	00:36:21
	They formed 32 teams for youth baseball and found 66 coaches to.	00:36:24
	Keep them under under close watch and and performance.	00:36:30
	They have they formed 8 teams for youth street hockey which just started.	00:36:35
	I saw it on the way over.	00:36:40
	You know, and 16 coaches were required for that and they were able to find those five teams for tennis and pickleball leagues with	00:36:42
	61 persistence.	00:36:47
	Our Parks Department has been working around the clock to conduct a whole bunch of different maintenance.	00:36:53
	Type activities making sure that the splash pads are working.	00:37:01
	They passed the health inspection for the for the splash pad.	00:37:05
	And then have just been going down a bullet list of items to make sure that everything is under.	00:37:09
	Under good repair.	00:37:15
	Uh, you mentioned that the shade sales were up and that's a really exciting thing to have in our parks right now with these hot	00:37:20
	days that we're having.	00:37:23
	We received 2.	00:37:28
	Donated memorial benches through the program that Brian's team is running.	00:37:30
	Which is really exciting to see that program coming up.	00:37:35
	So that we can get these beautiful benches placed around the city.	00:37:38
	Grove Park basketball and tennis courts were both resurfaced, and that was one of the.	00:37:42
	Nice things about taking our tennis court again and park offline for a little while to do the hockey.	00:37:48
	Is that we have these beautiful resurfaced courts for folks that that.	00:37:55
	Our tennis players.	00:37:59
	To go while the while the hockey is underway.	00:38:01
	As far as?	00:38:06
	Division summaries from streets and stormwater we were able to develop.	00:38:08
	This answers one of the questions that was brought up earlier.	00:38:13
	We developed a 10 year pavement preservation and maintenance plans provide.	00:38:16
	Provided by our consultant.	00:38:21
	That will be accompanied with a transportation utility fee study.	00:38:23
	And so we'll be working on that over the next few months and then present that.	00:38:27
	But the purpose behind that is to avoid the problem that was raised by the.	00:38:31
	Written.	00:38:36
	Make sure that we have sufficient funding to stay on top of those needs so that.	00:38:37
	Maintenance on our roads is as inexpensive as possible.	00:38:42
	They are absolutely correct in that if we wait.	00:38:46
	15 to 20 years before we look at our roads again.	00:38:49
	We pay the highest dollar per mile.	00:38:52
	If we take care of it as it's needed.	00:38:56
	That is.	00:38:58
	Pennies on the dollar for maintenance.	00:38:59
	Yeah, this thing did a really great presentation that locked itself into my mind so.	00:39:02
	The value of.	00:39:07
	OK, Yeah.	00:39:09
	The Public Works Department so awarded a Springs TI pond concrete lining.	00:39:12
	Project.	00:39:18
	So if anyone's been wondering why the Pi Pond is a little bit low, it's so that that maintenance can be taken, taken care of and	00:39:19
	that'll start this month.	00:39:23
	On Main Street and the road repair that was brought up, it will be completed.	00:39:27
	Towards the end of the month.	00:39:32
	Grounds and facilities. One big project that we're looking at is working with forestry, fire and state lands.	00:39:36
	To maintain our shoreline and so the city staff was able to work with them.	00:39:43
	And get permits to go down and perform annual tree and overgrowth maintenance along the shoreline.	00:39:48
	And it's really nice to get that done so that that makes that area much more usable area.	00:39:55
	From our engineering department.	00:40:02
	That transportation master plan has been reviewed by staff and then they're switching gears into that working.	00:40:06
	Working on the impact.	00:40:14
	Reassessment study.	00:40:16
	As far as projects, we're continuing to.	00:40:18
	Do the planning. This question was raised as well.	00:40:22
	We're continuing to do the planning on the Vineyard Center.	00:40:25
	We would like to see that.	00:40:28
	Of those plans be completed so that we have a package ready.	00:40:30
	The need for added space isn't going away, and so the timing of that will.	00:40:34
	Will be what we.	00:40:39
	Focus on, I suppose at some at some point.	00:40:42
	But for now, we want to make sure that we get those plans completed and.	00:40:45
	And.	00:40:48
	Make sure that the community is aware.	00:40:49
	What those needs are, what the solutions are and provide?	00:40:52
	That to the community in a timely fashion.	00:40:56
	The water tank.	00:41:00
	Is essentially complete. They're running the final tests on that and they expect to have that up and running.	00:41:02
	They've done water water tests, they've filled it up.	00:41:09
	And they're just making sure that they've got any of the little leaks here and there.	00:41:12
	That were expected, all patched up and ready to be used.	00:41:17
	In July.	00:41:21
	Trail enhancements so the city met with Orem City.	00:41:24
	And UDOT to review the final plans and costs.	00:41:28
	For the 400 S and Center St.	00:41:31
	Fixes.	00:41:35
	And also as part of that, they requested additional funding through MAG to help complete that project.	00:41:36
	The Vineyard Connector Bridge is under construction, as many of you have seen.	00:41:43
	And that started on May 20th.	00:41:47
	And I don't know that we have a completion date yet, but.	00:41:50
	Watch for that as things start to happen and go over the road there.	00:41:54
	From our community development team.	00:42:02
	The Wayfinding and Design The Wayfinding design consultants are currently finalizing the design concepts for the.	00:42:04
	Wayfinding and mill Rd. design.	00:42:11
	They will present those.	00:42:14
	Both plans to the city.	00:42:17
	Starting in June, So we should be seeing drafts of those plans here shortly.	00:42:20
	The lakefront grant. So a few years ago, the county.	00:42:26
	Provided.	00:42:31
	Vineyard City with a.	00:42:32
	Three and Change $1,000,000 grant.	00:42:34
	The the county approved for the city to use those.	00:42:38
	Funds to go towards block 6, which is the.	00:42:42
	The block out nearest to the lake.	00:42:46
	And so we're excited to see that work go forward.	00:42:48
	Does that start this summer?	00:42:54
	It does start this summer, yes, that's exciting.	00:42:55
	I like to report every time we get new businesses in the city and it seems to be every month.	00:42:59
	This month we have two new commercial businesses and two new home occupation businesses that came into the city.	00:43:05
	Can you tell us what?	00:43:14
	What they are, we have Mountain Pure LLC, a commercial entity.	00:43:16
	Intermountain Health.	00:43:21
	Vineyard Clinic.	00:43:24
	And then we have something called M4 Dynamic in Clover Lane LLC as the two home occupations.	00:43:27
	Thanks.	00:43:33
	As far as residential, this is.	00:43:38
	Maybe interesting more to me than anyone else, but.	00:43:40
	But our total units occupied and vineyard are now 5646 units.	00:43:43
	With an estimated population of 22,055.	00:43:48
	This month we had three residential unit.	00:43:52
	Certificate of Occupancy is issued, so those are.	00:43:57
	All three for single family homes.	00:43:59
	And throughout the month.	00:44:02
	Our inspection team, our building team was very busy. I think this is a higher number than last month.	00:44:04
	There were 806 total inspections.	00:44:09
	Which breaks down to 38.38 inspections per day for the team.	00:44:12
	So if they're not in the office, you know that they are out.	00:44:18
	Working hard trying to get those all completed.	00:44:22
	With that, I'll complete my report.	00:44:24
	Excellent. Thank you. That's.	00:44:27
	A lot it.	00:44:29
	It's amazing to me.	00:44:30
	You know you live in a city.	00:44:32
	I'm 55 now, sorry.	00:44:34
	You live in all these cities.	00:44:36
	And it's hard to comprehend all of the working pieces.	00:44:37
	That make it so nice you know and take for granted.	00:44:41
	All the people that work to keep it nice and make it nice. So thank you very much.	00:44:44
	OK, so now we.	00:44:53
	Move to consent.	00:44:56
	Items is.	00:44:59
	Does anyone have any question?	00:45:01
	About the consent items.	00:45:03
	Yeah, Should I make a motion to remove once we can discuss it or?	00:45:06
	Is that?	00:45:11
	I just want to. I just wanted to get a little the only one on here that I feel like.	00:45:12
	We should have some kind of public comment on is the.	00:45:17
	Water supply agreement.	00:45:20
	Just bad I think. I feel like the others we've discussed previously publicly.	00:45:22
	But that one.	00:45:26
	I personally haven't reviewed it, don't think that there's anything.	00:45:27
	Do we need to worry about in there? I just feel like it would be nice if we could.	00:45:32
	Talk about it a little bit.	00:45:36
	I agree with that. You want to discuss it now, or you want to pull it off to do a work session on another?	00:45:38
	To me, it's more about making sure that everybody understands what it actually.	00:45:45
	OK. So I think typically what we would do is we would approve the remaining items and then we would.	00:45:50
	Discuss that that one 8.5.	00:45:55
	As a separate item.	00:45:58
	OK, so.	00:45:59
	I can make a motion to approve 8.18.28.3 and 8.4 as presented.	00:46:02
	OK, second.	00:46:11
	And this will be done by Roco.	00:46:13
	Yes.	00:46:18
	So.	00:46:19
	OK, party.	00:46:22
	Hi, Jake.	00:46:24
	Aye, Brett.	00:46:27
	Aye.	00:46:30
	Sarah.	00:46:31
	I OK.	00:46:35
	All right, so now we talk about it.	00:46:38
	OK, umm.	00:46:40
	So did you have questions you want to leave out, Brett? So, so to me the question was for for staff, if they could just give an	00:46:42
	overview of what of.	00:46:46
	What it is?	00:46:51
	And then?	00:46:52
	If we have questions based on that, I think that would be great.	00:46:53
	So this is a water supply agreement between central UT Water Conservancy District and Vindner City.	00:46:57
	And short.	00:47:06
	Continues to.	00:47:08
	Excuse me, this is this execution disagreement as a critical component of the cities original commitment.	00:47:10
	To Central Utah water.	00:47:16
	And part of our commitments.	00:47:18
	We constructed 6,000,000 gallon water tank to house our own water.	00:47:20
	Previously we've been using. We've been.	00:47:25
	Housing the water in central Utah waters.	00:47:28
	System as well as civil war system this is going.	00:47:31
	The 6,000,000 can you hear me?	00:47:35
	This is going to get.	00:47:39
	Feedback. So yeah, that's probably my new glasses.	00:47:40
	Right there I gotta shut them off so.	00:47:44
	There's 6,000,000 gallon or tank up.	00:47:48
	Allows us to store the water with. What this will do is commitment. For us. It's a multi agency commitment. Central retail water	00:47:50
	is also one.	00:47:55
	To transfer the water.	00:48:00
	1500 acre feet of water.	00:48:02
	From City of Orem into to Central Utah Water Conservancy District, Central Utah Water Conservative District will supply that 1500	00:48:04
	acre feet of water.	00:48:09
	To Veneer City in addition to the other acre.	00:48:14
	Of water, that Central Utah water that we purchased from Central UT Water.	00:48:17
	Our conservative district.	00:48:21
	In order to house into our in order to house into our 6,000,000 gallon water tech.	00:48:22
	So this agreement here is an agreement formalizing.	00:48:28
	Those transfers of those water acre feet of water just from the city for.	00:48:32
	Into the central Utah water system to provide us To provide us.	00:48:37
	So the agreement summarized the annual allocation of 1500 acre feet.	00:48:45
	Of CWP is the Central Water project.	00:48:50
	And it has phase takedowns as Jones Exhibit A.	00:48:55
	The storage talks about the part of the agreement talks about the storage.	00:49:00
	Of umm.	00:49:05
	Storing it Storing 6,000,000 gallons of water.	00:49:07
	And to winner cities.	00:49:10
	Tank and with 2,000,000 gallons of permanent storage.	00:49:12
	In central Utah water system.	00:49:18
	That you know in gallons.	00:49:20
	In essence, provides for.	00:49:22
	Of fireflow surgery.	00:49:26
	So in the case of a park, a fireflow.	00:49:27
	Or other or other.	00:49:30
	I'll say like almost inconsistencies were allowed to really utilize our water. So that's that agreement.	00:49:31
	This agreement formalizes that.	00:49:37
	It does put down some parameters.	00:49:39
	In terms of using it, those parameters are mainly to ensure that central Utah water.	00:49:41
	The rate of water that we take from central water is within certain parameters, so they don't see a big spike of water.	00:49:47
	The math from the earth because they supply other customers as well.	00:49:55
	So it just kind of outlines this parameters.	00:50:00
	And.	00:50:04
	The term is perpetual. That means still down the time.	00:50:06
	And for sure, as long as we as we pay.	00:50:10
	For as we're paying for the water.	00:50:13
	It outlines the fee structure at one time development fee charge.	00:50:16
	So this outlines the 1500 gallons of water.	00:50:20
	1500 acre free water that we're taking in from from from Orem City to central Utah water.	00:50:23
	Typically just we talked about is impact these what they call takedown fees.	00:50:28
	Set this formalizes the Central Utah water will not be charging those takedown fees or impact fees to Vinger cities since we've	00:50:33
	already paid that to to OM City.	00:50:37
	So which is good because.	00:50:41
	We're not going to be billed twice.	00:50:44
	So that formalizes that view. But however, in the future water, we would have any takedown fees for future water, which again we	00:50:46
	pass along to the developers, they were the ones who would be demanding those.	00:50:52
	Are requiring that making us utilize those. There we go.	00:50:58
	It talks about annual fees, O&M components and capital recovery components in essence.	00:51:04
	Kind of putting us on the same page as.	00:51:09
	As the other customers on Central Utah water system.	00:51:12
	And nothing different than what we've already been doing with Central retail water.	00:51:15
	And then of course, it talks about the surcharges on exceeding the contract.	00:51:21
	We talked about the 2,000,000 gallons that they currently have and permanent supply of inner city that if we go outside those	00:51:25
	boundaries they do have the right.	00:51:29
	To charge for inner city is like a one time over it just like you're just like a Internet.	00:51:34
	You go, you go over your allocation, they hit you with a fee on that. So is this, you know, good faith?	00:51:40
	On that, we actually ran some modeling recently with our.	00:51:46
	And.	00:51:50
	You know where we work things to ensure that we stay with them that so even in the case utilize it 2,000,000 gallons, we have a	00:51:52
	system in place to ensure that we're not going to be charged over charges as well so.	00:51:57
	It's just formalizes that agreement.	00:52:04
	And it fulfills the key obligation.	00:52:08
	Between the Parkinson's of inner city central Utah water as well as with the City Hall as well on that.	00:52:13
	So in short, that's disagreement that notional.	00:52:19
	Questions, right?	00:52:23
	OK.	00:52:27
	Council, do you have any questions? The only question I had.	00:52:30
	Are they answered? Which was how are we protecting ourselves from over this?	00:52:34
	OK. Jake, you have any questions?	00:52:40
	No, I have any questions. OK, Marty.	00:52:45
	No, OK. So we're good to approve it.	00:52:48
	Yeah, but do you want to make a motion?	00:52:51
	I move to adopt resolution 202530.	00:52:56
	What's that?	00:53:01
	To approve an adult.	00:53:03
	Sorry, what was I?	00:53:06
	To move, to approve and adopt.	00:53:08
	Consent item 8.5 as presented.	00:53:11
	I'll second.	00:53:14
	Perfect. This will be done by roll call.	00:53:16
	Take aye.	00:53:18
	Brett.	00:53:22
	Ready, Hi.	00:53:24
	Aye.	00:53:26
	OK, let's see.	00:53:30
	Now we move to business items.	00:53:33
	So 10.1 discussion and action in your zoning code update.	00:53:37
	So this is the.	00:53:46
	The long.	00:53:47
	Project that Cash and the development team have been working on and have held meetings with each of the council members.	00:53:49
	It is a long list of tweaks here and there to improve the code, bring it up statute, and so forth.	00:53:56
	And so if there's any specific questions, we could field those. Otherwise I think it's something that the Council is quite.	00:54:02
	Comfortable with or familiar with I should say.	00:54:08
	Yeah, I I love that they the goal was to simplify the language, I think.	00:54:12
	Cash has done a really good job.	00:54:16
	Going through it.	00:54:18
	Are there any questions from the Council?	00:54:19
	Marty.	00:54:22
	Just to clarify since the last time you spoke.	00:54:26
	There hasn't been any major changes. I know that there was some discussion talking about. I know Mayor said she had questions.	00:54:29
	Do you know if any changes have been made in that area?	00:54:37
	I'm not aware of any changes since we we went through the points.	00:54:39
	I think that the mayor probably was looking for clarification on some of the.	00:54:44
	The items that were being discussed.	00:54:48
	A part of that was my request. I wanted to look at some of the changes that related to short term rentals.	00:54:51
	And make sure that they.	00:54:57
	Were enforceable. I had some conversations with cash and uncomfortable.	00:54:59
	What's in here?	00:55:03
	OK.	00:55:04
	Brett, no, I've had enough reviews with cash to feel comfortable with where we are.	00:55:07
	OK, take.	00:55:13
	Kath, were there any changes between when I spoke with you and Kelly and between?	00:55:15
	You and Jamie that I should know about. He's in New Zealand.	00:55:21
	Yeah, again.	00:55:27
	No changes that I'm aware of, Jamie. I'm not aware of any changes.	00:55:29
	OK, there's no density or anything like that. It's just vocabulary stuff that we went through cleaning up the code stuff.	00:55:33
	Well, I know that there are some significant changes.	00:55:41
	In here but I.	00:55:44
	But we went through them all last time.	00:55:46
	And I I personally feel comfortable with it.	00:55:49
	Umm, it's just.	00:55:53
	As I've been going through this again, it's always hard to know. We see the red and the green, but.	00:55:56
	Did the red and the green change? Yeah. So to answer Councilmember Holloway's question.	00:56:01
	Since there are substantive changes in.	00:56:07
	The code updates.	00:56:11
	There have not been changes to the substance since the last.	00:56:14
	Council meeting.	00:56:18
	Right. That's what I meant to say. Thank you.	00:56:21
	I'm good with it.	00:56:25
	OK, perfect.	00:56:26
	Let's see. So I need a motion.	00:56:29
	To approve this right.	00:56:33
	OK.	00:56:35
	Somebody want to make a motion?	00:56:36
	I move to adopt Ordinance 2025.	00:56:41
	03 Zoning text amendment as presented.	00:56:43
	2nd.	00:56:48
	OK, I.	00:56:54
	Oh, all in favor.	00:56:56
	Hi.	00:56:58
	Hi. And then it was pretty.	00:57:00
	Quick and we got everybody's but as an ordinance too, can we also do that one as a roll call just to.	00:57:03
	Yeah. OK. All right. By roll call, Jake.	00:57:10
	Aye, Brett, hi.	00:57:15
	Marty, hi.	00:57:18
	I am I supposed to say my name?	00:57:20
	OK. All right.	00:57:25
	Let's see.	00:57:27
	And this one is hearing.	00:57:30
	You will want to motion engineer now.	00:57:32
	OK, so does someone.	00:57:36
	We I make a motion, you can ask someone to you can someone want to make a motion to go into a public hearing for the consolidated	00:57:37
	fee schedule amendment?	00:57:42
	So moved.	00:57:46
	2nd.	00:57:48
	OK, we are now, oh sorry, all in favor.	00:57:50
	Hi. Hi.	00:57:53
	Yeah, I.	00:58:00
	OK, I just have.	00:58:03
	Couple quick ones, um.	00:58:05
	On page #4.	00:58:09
	This is just for the concessions, so we have the Grove Park concessions, food truck contracts.	00:58:11
	For non city events.	00:58:16
	That will be $500 per month.	00:58:19
	The Grove Park concession semi permanent structure contract for non city events is $1000 per month.	00:58:21
	And then the Grove Park concessions contract late fee, that's $25.	00:58:27
	And then on page.	00:58:36
	15 I believe.	00:58:39
	Correct, Page 15 we're doing the.	00:58:43
	Parks and Recreations.	00:58:46
	Impact fees.	00:58:48
	And that is 3422 or $3422.88 per household.	00:58:50
	And then there's that stipulation that household as defined by the US Census Bureau.	00:58:56
	And that is it.	00:59:02
	OK. Does anyone have any questions?	00:59:06
	OK. Does the public have any questions?	00:59:12
	OK, sorry.	00:59:17
	Thanks, Maria.	00:59:19
	I I.	00:59:21
	Daria Evans.	00:59:29
	Vineyard resident.	00:59:31
	I have some questions about the transportation utility fee.	00:59:33
	It's not on this. It's not on this. It's in the consolidated fee schedule. It says transportation utility fee.	00:59:40
	So we do have that in the consolidated fee schedule currently, but we're not charging it.	00:59:49
	That's from previously, we just haven't done any updates, right? That's why I have some questions about.	00:59:55
	OK, It was adopted in March of 2015.	01:00:00
	And as I was reading through Utah Gov it says it has expired during ten years.	01:00:04
	So now we have to have a new study. Is this correct? You kind of mentioned something about that.	01:00:10
	OK.	01:00:16
	And so we'll need to.	01:00:17
	Restart that process.	01:00:19
	Before we can impose a new test.	01:00:21
	Right now it was set for $3.50 a month.	01:00:24
	And I'm wondering if.	01:00:28
	That fee is going to go up after the study is completed.	01:00:30
	And I'm wondering if.	01:00:34
	The maintenance of effort.	01:00:38
	That implementing a tough allows.	01:00:41
	The city will provide new services.	01:00:44
	Other than just regular Rd. maintenance. But we cannot impose a tough unless it will provide new services.	01:00:48
	For our roads.	01:00:54
	Side Beyond new sidewalks.	01:00:56
	According to Utah Gov. That's what it says.	01:00:59
	So I'm just curious about that.	01:01:02
	I can bring it up with you.	01:01:06
	I think that's a great question, Daria. You could probably stay up here because that's what we discussed after the public hearing	01:01:08
	or can we discuss now?	01:01:12
	Sorry, I didn't mean to take over.	01:01:17
	I wasn't sure if that was a statement or a question. I'm asking you when the best time to answer Darius questions during the	01:01:19
	public hearing or after we close it.	01:01:25
	Probably best after OK.	01:01:33
	But I'll be ready for it, OK?	01:01:36
	Amnesty.	01:01:38
	OK. Any other questions from the public?	01:01:40
	OK. So we need a motion to go out of the public hearing. I move to go out of the public hearing.	01:01:44
	2nd.	01:01:50
	This is. Wait, is this done by Roko?	01:01:52
	No, that's the resolution. No, just an upper down. All in favor.	01:01:56
	Aye.	01:02:02
	Oh oh.	01:02:03
	Before you go into vote, are you going to take off the transportation?	01:02:07
	Fee schedule, I mean that tough fee before you vote on it.	01:02:10
	Because.	01:02:15
	It has expired.	01:02:16
	And if it's listed on there, it sounds like you're approving.	01:02:18
	The tough, the tough was.	01:02:21
	Was cancelled.	01:02:25
	In January of 2020.	01:02:26
	No, it expires in 10 years. It was implemented in 2015 and it goes for 10 years. So it expired in March of this year. I hear what	01:02:29
	you're saying.	01:02:34
	The tough was cancelled by the City Council in on January 1st of 2020 and has not been charged since then.	01:02:38
	So it currently is not charged.	01:02:46
	Part of the transportation utility or transportation master plan.	01:02:48
	And transportation utility fee study.	01:02:52
	Is to explore that and that will come to.	01:02:55
	The Council and to the public at a future meeting.	01:02:59
	OK, so then we will not.	01:03:02
	With the approval of this consent item.	01:03:04
	That transportation fee will not.	01:03:06
	It won't be reimplemented or anything, no.	01:03:09
	OK. Thank you very much. Thank you for that clarification.	01:03:11
	OK.	01:03:17
	OK.	01:03:20
	OK, so.	01:03:23
	Is there any discussion?	01:03:25
	On this from the Council.	01:03:26
	Brett Phaneuf Nothing for me.	01:03:30
	Marty.	01:03:32
	OK.	01:03:34
	OK.	01:03:37
	So we need a motion to adopt Resolution 2025-29, consolidated.	01:03:38
	Schedule amendment as presented.	01:03:44
	So moved.	01:03:51
	2nd.	01:03:53
	OK, this needs to be done. This needs to be done by roll call.	01:03:54
	Marty.	01:03:58
	Hi, Brett. Hi, Jake.	01:03:59
	Aye, aye.	01:04:03
	OK. I think that's it.	01:04:06
	Yeah, OK, so the City Council meeting is adjourned.	01:04:10
	Minutes, a couple minutes so I can do everything. So a 10 minute recess and then we'll start our 8th RDA meeting.	01:04:18
	Tony, do I just stay in here?	01:04:27
	OK.	01:04:30

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	All right, we're going to go ahead and start the regular Vineyard City Council meeting. Today is June 11th, 2025 and the time is.	00:00:03
	531.	00:00:13
	And we're going to start with an invocation and on the Pledge of Allegiance, and I'll go ahead and provide that.	00:00:14
	Father in Heaven, we're so grateful for this.	00:00:20
	Day and opportunity to gather together as a council and I pray that.	00:00:22
	We will be.	00:00:27
	Collaborative and work together in a way that is uplifting to this community and helps us to.	00:00:29
	Provide for a strong future for the city and languages. Christ. Amen.	00:00:34
	Alright.	00:00:38
	1 nation underground.	00:00:43
	Universal liberty and justice for all.	00:00:52
	All right. As we begin our meeting, we actually have, we're going to start out by going into a closed meeting.	00:01:00
	Umm, if one of you would like to make a motion.	00:01:08
	About what we're going into a closed meeting about for the.	00:01:13
	Public. That would be excellent.	00:01:16
	I move to go into a closed session for the discussion of the character of professional competence or physical and mental health of	00:01:18
	an individual.	00:01:22
	And is there another thing that we need to talk about, or are we?	00:01:28
	Do we say the potential?	00:01:32
	Yeah. I think it also has potential litigation and potential litigation, OK.	00:01:34
	All right, We can I get a motion? I made the motion. Thank you, Marty. Can I get a second?	00:01:40
	Second. Second by Sarah. All in favor, aye.	00:01:46
	What we're going to do is we're going to go into a processing in another room and then we'll come back in and join you again in	00:01:50
	just a little bit.	00:01:53
	All right, we're going to go ahead and.	00:02:01
	This back to order.	00:02:02
	I did want to make sure counseling. I remember you guys were aware that the.	00:02:05
	Mayor had another appointment tonight so.	00:02:09
	Before we get started, I do need to get a nomination from Mayor Pro Tem ****.	00:02:13
	I nominate Sarah Cameron.	00:02:17
	2nd.	00:02:20
	OK, let's do a roll call, Jake.	00:02:22
	Yep, that's great for me.	00:02:26
	Aye, Marty.	00:02:29
	And Sarah, hi, Awesome. All right.	00:02:31
	I will turn the time over to you then.	00:02:35
	So you can just start with. We're in the already.	00:02:53
	We're going to do the RDA meeting.	00:02:58
	No, I still had it going through it.	00:03:00
	We were going to finish the City Council.	00:03:03
	Yeah, yeah, for a 3.1.	00:03:08
	Correct. I have us at 3.1 the fraud risk assessment presentation.	00:03:27
	No, you're good.	00:03:35
	I'll take over from there. Thanks, Sarah.	00:03:38
	Once a year, each municipality is required to do a fraud risk assessment and present it to council as part of part of their annual	00:03:43
	audit.	00:03:47
	And so that was included in your packet.	00:03:53
	We are once again in the low category, which is a good place to be low fraud risk.	00:03:55
	And so we just had to report that to the Council as.	00:04:00
	But there's no vote. I don't believe that has to take place. It's just a matter of informational.	00:04:04
	Do you have any questions?	00:04:09
	When you do this and report it back to us, is this also something that goes to the state?	00:04:13
	It is. It's a report that we have to upload to the state auditor's website and also provide to our independent auditor who comes	00:04:18
	in and does our audit.	00:04:22
	OK. So maybe can you clarify for the public what?	00:04:27
	What that entails exactly?	00:04:32
	A big part of it is making sure that within the finance department we have separation of duties.	00:04:34
	Because obviously we deal with public funds and we want to make sure that someone doesn't have access to bring them in and send	00:04:40
	them out.	00:04:43
	And so a lot of that has to do with that. That's the main point, is making sure their separation of duty. It's also making sure	00:04:46
	that we have written policies that have been approved by council.	00:04:51
	And we have to have both on record.	00:04:57
	Done by ordinance so that we have those.	00:04:59
	It really is just a great reminder of the things that we need to be doing and working on.	00:05:01
	It asks one of the questions is that do we have our fraud hotline, which we do, and they can do the info at Vayner, Utah, you	00:05:06
	know?	00:05:10
	So it's just a lot of questions related to.	00:05:14
	Risk for fraud Risk in the city.	00:05:19
	OK, excellent. Does anyone have any question?	00:05:23
	No, OK. Thanks, Christy.	00:05:27
	So now we'll go to the work session 4.1.	00:05:30
	Sorry, were we asking? So if we had any questions? Yeah, I did. Sorry.	00:05:34
	Didn't pause long enough I guess.	00:05:39
	Hey Christy, is this the state mandated annual fraud risk assessment we just fill out as a checklist of of things that are in	00:05:41
	place? Yes, it is.	00:05:46
	OK, it's not the state auditors.	00:05:52
	The other stuff.	00:05:55
	No, we, we supply this to the state auditors website as well as to our independent auditor as part of our audit process.	00:05:57
	But yeah, that this is just the annual reporting requirement that usually happens towards the end of the fiscal year.	00:06:05
	OK, all right, let's say that all cities do this. OK, right. It's a mandatory requirement.	00:06:12
	Yeah.	00:06:18
	That's all I have.	00:06:21
	Thanks. OK, perfect. Any other questions?	00:06:22
	No. OK, so now we're going to a work session 4.1.	00:06:27
	Budget discussion.	00:06:31
	As far as the budget discussion, we were just going to.	00:06:40
	Provide a reminder to.	00:06:43
	That on the 25th of this month we are approving the final budget.	00:06:47
	For FY20 6.	00:06:52
	And to remind council and Oregon the public.	00:06:55
	That we have this time.	00:06:59
	To review and make sure that we've addressed any last questions or concerns or.	00:07:02
	Edits that are requested. I know that Marty supplied a few of those and we're.	00:07:07
	Working through those as well.	00:07:11
	As providing understanding on what each of the elements of the budget.	00:07:13
	Meant so if there are lingering questions, be sure to shoot us an e-mail that can go to Christy or myself.	00:07:18
	And we'll make sure that we get responses back to you in a timely fashion before that meeting on the 25th, OK?	00:07:23
	Perfect.	00:07:30
	OK, any questions from the Council?	00:07:31
	No, no pause for J.	00:07:35
	Our public comments and.	00:07:41
	Coming up next.	00:07:42
	OK, so now we're.	00:07:44
	Going to public comments.	00:07:46
	Tony has a comment that was submitted to be read.	00:07:49
	Yes, at the beginning.	00:07:52
	Yes, I've got a message from Tyler Harrelson.	00:07:54
	And I'm just going to go ahead and read that into the record now. That's Tony. Yeah. Would we go into?	00:07:58
	Couple tournament session.	00:08:04
	We open that up officially.	00:08:05
	It's not a public hearing, so we're there.	00:08:08
	Let's see, OK, I'd like to make a high level comment regarding the council making budgetary decisions.	00:08:15
	As you Council members are looking at projects both during budget decisions and in the future.	00:08:22
	Please take extra consideration of the replacement and ongoing maintenance costs of new infrastructure.	00:08:27
	The group Strong Towns have some good material about what they call the growth Ponzi scheme.	00:08:32
	If you haven't read about it, I'd encourage you to look it up.	00:08:37
	They outline how many American cities in the past have grown quickly but failed to properly consider maintenance costs.	00:08:40
	Causing them to take on a great deal of debt and get into financial dire straits decades later.	00:08:45
	To give an anecdote close to home, I know a gentleman who has done some landscaping for various clientele, including American Fork	00:08:50
	City, where he lives and grew up.	00:08:55
	He posted a little video of this time last year outlining an issue he called Polka dot Lawn.	00:08:59
	At one of their parks which had been there since he was a kid 40 plus years ago.	00:09:04
	He showed a substantial section of the park covered in lots of crunchy yellow grass.	00:09:08
	With patches or polka dots of green.	00:09:12
	Explained that the sprinkler heads or water pressure likely had an issue.	00:09:15
	And needed to be fixed. The sprinklers were not spraying far enough.	00:09:18
	So only a few little patches of grass were green. He then explained that he'd reported many issues like this before, but he'd	00:09:22
	report this. But they'll probably say.	00:09:26
	Yeah, we know. We don't have the resources. I'm not in a rich city.	00:09:31
	They scrounge a lot for what we get. American Fork decades ago made the mistake Stronger Towns outlines in their growth Ponzi	00:09:34
	scheme material.	00:09:38
	As clearly evidenced by this part.	00:09:42
	As my acquaintance said, they don't have the money to maintain it and fix the issues. This is likely because the decision makers.	00:09:44
	Did not pay close enough attention to the ongoing maintenance.	00:09:51
	And replacing the cost of the park infrastructure and likely of other projects such as roads.	00:09:54
	Sewer systems etc.	00:09:58
	Another quick anecdote, if you've ever heard of lead poisoning from the water pipes in Flint, MI.	00:10:00
	That was also caused by lack of funding for ongoing maintenance of infrastructure.	00:10:06
	A much more consequential example than a yellow grass though.	00:10:11
	Vineyard is a relatively young city by comparison, and I'd like for us to learn from my financial mistakes.	00:10:14
	Of those cities who came before us.	00:10:19
	We can give the next generation a better future by being careful about the maintenance costs.	00:10:21
	We leave them to handle.	00:10:26
	As a last note about this, I'd like to also recommend you focus on actual tax and fee dollars.	00:10:27
	Paying for the infrastructure, Many industry professionals will recommend a Rd. widening.	00:10:33
	As they predicted, saving thousands of people 15 seconds of time each day on their evening commute.	00:10:37
	Multiplying that time by a multiplier of dollars per hour.	00:10:43
	This is nice, but we cannot pay for a Rd. widening with saved 15 second increments of time.	00:10:46
	We must pay with actual dollars.	00:10:51
	We must also maintain the road using actual dollars.	00:10:53
	Same thing for increased jobs. We do not have an income tax in Vineyard.	00:10:57
	So we can't pay for infrastructure with more jobs.	00:11:00
	That is all my comments today. Thank you for your time and for your public service.	00:11:03
	Tony, was that book called The Growth Ponzi Scheme?	00:11:11
	He said it was from a group called Strong Towns and they have a material that they titled the Growth Ponzi scheme.	00:11:16
	OK.	00:11:24
	OK anyone that wants to speak in the public comments.	00:11:29
	Please come forward. I'm getting that set up too. Is there a time limit you'd like to set?	00:11:36
	Depending on I mean normally we have two to three minutes, but.	00:11:42
	Just yeah, whatever is normal. There's not very many. How many have want to speak?	00:11:46
	123 so 3 minutes I guess.	00:11:52
	Maximum OK.	00:11:55
	Thank you.	00:11:57
	Daria Evans Villas resident, Thank you very much for this opportunity to speak.	00:11:58
	I just want to give out to shout out for Vineyard Days. It was a success. I couldn't believe how many children were.	00:12:04
	All over where we were, we were doing the duck pond and milk toss. It was a lot of fun, but it was crazy.	00:12:11
	It was good and senior pickleball is fun. Thank you. We've got it going. We even did a PSA today. Did you hear about that? Hannah	00:12:17
	was taking a video. I hope it doesn't go.	00:12:21
	Got viral?	00:12:27
	I just have a couple of questions. I was wondering if you know why there is a plywood wall around the Vineyard Frontrunner	00:12:31
	station?	00:12:34
	I've been wondering that for a while.	00:12:38
	I'd like to know if you know what is happening with the Momentum climbing gym. Is it still coming coming?	00:12:40
	And, umm.	00:12:48
	What is the estimation completion date of the reconstruction at Vineyard Loop and Main St.	00:12:51
	And.	00:12:57
	At last City Council meeting, Mr. Ellis said we have acquired 7 water shares from developers. I would like to know how many acre	00:12:58
	feet of water that is. Thank you very much.	00:13:03
	Perfect. Thank you.	00:13:11
	So I asked the mayor.	00:13:13
	Do we ever just answer questions right after they are asked? And she said she used to do that.	00:13:15
	So is it OK if we do that?	00:13:21
	Yeah.	00:13:24
	OK, so I was wondering about the plywood too. Does anyone know about that?	00:13:27
	OK. Yeah, to answer the three different questions, the plywood wall.	00:13:31
	Is intended to provide marketing space for Utah City as new.	00:13:37
	Projects are coming along, The intention is for them to.	00:13:42
	Cover those in.	00:13:46
	In upcoming projects to be as informative about what they're up to in the downtown as they can be.	00:13:48
	As far as momentum.	00:13:54
	There is a pause on the momentum, as far as we understand.	00:13:57
	As they consider their options and their strategic plan going forward, so.	00:14:01
	We don't have a.	00:14:08
	A date to expect that.	00:14:09
	At this point in time.	00:14:12
	As far as the road.	00:14:14
	The estimated is part of our.	00:14:15
	Monthly report but the.	00:14:18
	June this month, we anticipate then completing that project. Are we still on track for that?	00:14:20
	June 22nd.	00:14:27
	Yeah, they're getting close. It's very nice.	00:14:30
	OK. And then did you want to talk about the water shares at all?	00:14:33
	Or we can talk about it after. We could grab that in a little bit each, each water share.	00:14:44
	Is different from each other and so we'll just have to tally up the acre feet that we're.	00:14:49
	That account for those shares that we were able to purchase.	00:14:54
	OK, perfect. Thank you.	00:14:58
	OK. Anyone else?	00:15:00
	Hi, my name is Keith Vincent. I also live in the villas.	00:15:08
	I I would like to ask rhetorically, how many of you actually looked at the line item?	00:15:12
	On the on the budget.	00:15:17
	Each of the different departments have several line items in the accounts.	00:15:18
	It was rhetorical, but just.	00:15:22
	Wanted to see if you're actually looking at those.	00:15:24
	Most.	00:15:27
	Most individuals and businesses.	00:15:29
	Budget by.	00:15:32
	Knowing how much their income is and then.	00:15:34
	Allocating that income to specific expenses.	00:15:38
	Successful individuals and businesses.	00:15:41
	Also budget to have savings and surplus.	00:15:45
	Most governments don't do it, they do it backwards.	00:15:49
	They spend what they're going to spend and then try to figure out how to raise taxes or debt.	00:15:53
	To cover those expenses.	00:15:57
	I would encourage you to not only.	00:16:00
	Look at the line items to see if they're one.	00:16:02
	Necessary.	00:16:06
	Required.	00:16:07
	And to what benefit we get from the city?	00:16:08
	For those for those line item expenses.	00:16:11
	For example, one of the line items is the City Hall, which I understand has now been put on hold.	00:16:15
	So is that going to come out of the budget or will that?	00:16:21
	$1,000,000 Stay in the budget and then be eligible to be spent.	00:16:23
	Somewhere else because you can allocate.	00:16:27
	Line items and move the.	00:16:30
	The things The other thing is that some of the funds are.	00:16:32
	Budgeting deficits and therefore transferring.	00:16:36
	Funds from other funds transferring money from other funds to cover deficits.	00:16:39
	Again.	00:16:45
	That's probably not best practices, so I just encourage you to to.	00:16:47
	The buck stops with you guys, right?	00:16:51
	You're the one ultimately responsible for our budget, and so I just encourage you to.	00:16:54
	Take a look at the line items and see are they necessary and required.	00:16:59
	And what benefit does the city get from them? Thank you.	00:17:02
	Thank you. Right, absolutely.	00:17:06
	Before, I just want to speak to that a little bit because before I.	00:17:09
	Start in this seat.	00:17:14
	I I would compare.	00:17:17
	I would try to compare my budget with a government budget.	00:17:19
	And going through the budget season last.	00:17:23
	Year was very eye opening.	00:17:25
	Christy, can you explain the maximum and the minimum the city's allowed?	00:17:28
	To save.	00:17:33
	And I think you told me.	00:17:34
	A few years ago we were over the maximum threshold and so you have to do things.	00:17:36
	Otherwise it shows the state that you're collecting more taxes than what you actually need, and that is not a great thing.	00:17:41
	Can you explain that a little bit so it makes sense?	00:17:48
	So the state requires and we're talking the general funds here.	00:17:50
	You can have between you have to have at least 5% and up to 35% of unrestricted funds.	00:17:54
	So it's like BNC Rd. funds, those are restricted for certain things. So those are not included.	00:18:02
	I'm just to give you an idea. Yes, last year we did have to make a transfer the two years before that.	00:18:08
	They didn't make the transfer. So we were over the 35% and that was Mark that was marked down in our audit.	00:18:14
	But last year they did get that transfer made into the capital projects fund, which is very common that for cities.	00:18:20
	Move on, sign this one. They're looking forward to future projects.	00:18:25
	Right now, currently with the budget that is set the way it is, we are going to start the year and end the year with 27%.	00:18:29
	So we feel really good about that number.	00:18:37
	Yeah, that's my understanding. Is that ideal? That's the ideal spot that a city wants to be in.	00:18:40
	Right, OK.	00:18:46
	Thank you. Appreciate that and thank you for your comment.	00:18:47
	OK, anyone?	00:18:50
	I came to talk to the RDA board but.	00:18:55
	There's a public comment period, so I will take that public comment period now.	00:18:57
	My first question is, is whether the Vineyard City fraud assessment of low.	00:19:01
	Is accurate? Does.	00:19:06
	I'm wondering if anyone on the council has direct or indirect knowledge of whether that fraud assessment is accurate or not.	00:19:09
	As a CPA, I think that that's important.	00:19:15
	And because you have a joint consolidated financial statement between the City of Vineyard and the RDA, I'm wondering if it	00:19:18
	applies to the RDA as well.	00:19:22
	My next question is.	00:19:26
	Does Vineyard Cities?	00:19:28
	Does Vineyard City and or the RDA send out legal analysis without being reviewed by the city attorney?	00:19:30
	That's my question.	00:19:37
	I would love an answer to that.	00:19:39
	If not.	00:19:41
	Does the Vineyard City and or RDA send out legal analysis without being reviewed by the city attorney?	00:19:43
	If so, that's highly unlikely unusual.	00:19:50
	Now.	00:19:54
	I received, I sent an e-mail to the board and I appreciate the board's response through one of your officers.	00:19:56
	Last week regarding what I came to talk to you about last time, which is T 2901.	00:20:03
	Which requires the RDA board.	00:20:08
	The taxing entity committee to meet in any year in which tax increment is given out, and I appreciate the response.	00:20:10
	I'm a little troubled by the response though, the legal analysis and the response.	00:20:16
	In that response, which was sent out in the packet also for today's meeting.	00:20:20
	Umm, but subsequently changed because I'm quite certain we're going to see a different legal analysis presented to you tonight	00:20:26
	than the one in the packet. I would ask you, as City Council and RDA board members to ask why that legal analysis changed.	00:20:32
	And I'm going to explain to you why it changed.	00:20:38
	So, but you can ask that question for yourself.	00:20:40
	There were four cases cited. CT versus Johnson, Jensen, Intermountain Healthcare.	00:20:43
	Hebrew, Lauren.	00:20:48
	Power, light and power versus Wasatch County and Grappendorf versus Pleasant Grove.	00:20:49
	Two of those cases that were cited do not actually exist in Utah case law, as was in the legal analysis.	00:20:54
	That's highly unusual.	00:21:01
	And the other two cases, there were actually direct quotes from those legal from those cases that do not exist in those case.	00:21:02
	OK, umm.	00:21:09
	Now I I disagree with the response of the legal memo, not in addition, in addition to the hallucinations.	00:21:10
	The clause.	00:21:17
	That I quoted last time was not mere super *****. It wasn't superlative.	00:21:19
	Or informal preference.	00:21:25
	The TC.	00:21:27
	Under Utah code 17C14024B, which authorizes TCS to cast votes that are binding on all taxing entities and to approve and	00:21:28
	disapprove project area plans, among other things, and among other things, allows them to demand to meet annually because to	00:21:35
	protect taxpayer funds.	00:21:41
	Now, the reason your legal analysis changed is because I tipped off.	00:21:48
	A reporter in the state of Utah.	00:21:53
	Regarding the legal analysis, which is faulty and in a recent case.	00:21:55
	In a recent case.	00:22:00
	Which?	00:22:01
	Garner versus Candace, 20/25/80.	00:22:02
	If I could, I just have one more, one more statement and then I'll be done, OK.	00:22:09
	In this Utah appellate course this year, Garner's attorney provided stake.	00:22:13
	Legal citations to the court.	00:22:18
	And was sanctioned.	00:22:20
	He had he was required to pay portions of the opposing party's legal fees and to reimburse his own client for fees for drafting a	00:22:21
	fake petition.	00:22:25
	And had to fund money into a charitable legal fund.	00:22:28
	I'm wondering what the consequences of vineyards sending out hallucinated and fake legal advice is. Thank you for your time, I'd	00:22:32
	love answers to those and I'll be happy to stay as long as necessary.	00:22:37
	So before the mayor left, she said.	00:22:42
	Keep your questions, write them all down.	00:22:47
	And we'll have a special RDA meeting where all of those questions can be addressed.	00:22:50
	It.	00:22:57
	Well, I think it's really important, right? Nobody wants to see anything done.	00:23:01
	Not in a transparent way. Definitely not in an illegal way.	00:23:06
	I'm Jamie, do you have any?	00:23:10
	Response that you want to John wants to follow up and send me.	00:23:12
	Whatever document it is that you think.	00:23:16
	Includes this.	00:23:19
	Last week.	00:23:21
	So I can answer some of the questions.	00:23:23
	And you're, you're thought you're referring to the memo from the RDA director with information on this?	00:23:26
	Oh, I'll take a look at it.	00:23:33
	I'm not out.	00:23:35
	Oh, right, sorry, you're not a microphone now, but.	00:23:36
	We are going to still do an RDA meeting after a regular council meeting, right? We just bumped it to the end instead of you. OK,	00:23:41
	let's just put a pause on that and we will continue that at the RDA meeting.	00:23:46
	Claudia Larae, just a quick question.	00:23:53
	Do we plan for?	00:23:56
	What the gentleman who sent in the letter said about.	00:23:59
	Oh my gosh.	00:24:04
	Infrastructure.	00:24:06
	Maintenance. That's it. Maintenance.	00:24:08
	Do we have a plan to, is it in the budget? Is that something we have? And I would.	00:24:11
	You know, encourage us to make sure we have one.	00:24:19
	You know our, our splash pad, all the all the parks really will take a hammer in and that's great. We love them being used.	00:24:23
	But let's make sure we don't fall into.	00:24:31
	Thank you. Just making sure.	00:24:34
	Agreed. I think one of the benefits of Vineyard is that we're very small.	00:24:37
	American fork is big and they have so many parts.	00:24:41
	I don't think I don't foresee that being a problem here.	00:24:45
	Because we're only four square miles.	00:24:48
	At completion, even downtown but.	00:24:50
	Yeah, priority, right. Agreed. Thank you, Karen Cornelius Bill is resident.	00:24:53
	Yes, we're small.	00:24:59
	Well, we have a ton of people and we're adding more, and that's a concern for me, but that's another topic.	00:25:01
	With our RDA.	00:25:06
	I probably know just enough to be dangerous, but I have a concern.	00:25:08
	And that is with the school district split, we will now only have 4 cities.	00:25:13
	Who are involved in the Vineyard RDA?	00:25:18
	Our taxes, our school taxes are extremely high because of the money diverted from the RDA to the developments.	00:25:22
	Now we will be sharing that with only four cities, not all the cities that we are currently sharing that with.	00:25:31
	Who are all a part of the Alpine School District.	00:25:38
	That scares me to death for the citizens of Vineyard.	00:25:41
	Whose school tax rate?	00:25:45
	Will increase astronomically because we are no longer sharing that deficit with other cities.	00:25:47
	So I hope that we can look at our RDA and do whatever we need to do.	00:25:53
	To make it equitable that we can still afford to live here.	00:25:58
	Thank you.	00:26:01
	Thank you. Yeah.	00:26:03
	And thank you Karen for your comment. There is a lot that goes into the school district split, but one thing to keep in mind.	00:26:06
	Is with the split we have.	00:26:14
	Besides funding and expenses, it also splits up the responsibility. There's a smaller area that we're covering.	00:26:18
	And then in addition with the RDA.	00:26:24
	Just for some fundamental.	00:26:26
	Perspective from my opinion.	00:26:29
	It is.	00:26:31
	Land that would have been limited in value that has already increased with the RDA so.	00:26:33
	A great example that Josh brought to us before and we could probably talk more about this during the meeting.	00:26:40
	But it was in the.	00:26:45
	$2000 a year property tax payment to the school district.	00:26:47
	1213 years ago and now they're making 41,000 a year from that same area of land.	00:26:52
	And we're still reinvesting 75% of that property tax.	00:26:57
	So we're increasing our value and that's just for a business area.	00:27:01
	Of property taxes that doesn't include the residential areas.	00:27:06
	So there is a lot of financial benefit and I have spoken with Alpine School District, I have spoken previously with members of	00:27:09
	Orem City Council and so far I've had nothing but encouragement and support and excitement for the development and growth of	00:27:15
	Vineyard.	00:27:22
	And that they see Vineyard as a long term investment.	00:27:28
	We've had nothing but support from all the other cities in our meetings with the inter local.	00:27:32
	With the four cities so.	00:27:37
	It's actually been very positive.	00:27:39
	And they're aware of our growing needs as well.	00:27:41
	OK, well, and and the point too. Yeah, we.	00:27:45
	We have.	00:27:48
	People. Umm.	00:27:50
	Or 4 cities.	00:27:51
	Right, that take on the school district.	00:27:52
	But we also don't carry the burden of Eagle Mountain and Lehigh, and all those bears cut me off.	00:27:55
	It's all good.	00:28:01
	OK.	00:28:02
	And answer to his questions, they're going to be answering yes.	00:28:05
	I wasn't.	00:28:12
	About you said there's going to be another RDA meeting to answer his questions, not the one tonight, OK?	00:28:13
	No, tonight. Tonight.	00:28:19
	Yes, we are going to do just a full RDA meeting focused on nothing but answering all of these questions. Yes, but not tonight. We	00:28:21
	will do the normal Rd. We will do a normal RDA meeting tonight right after this, but not answering his questions.	00:28:30
	We will answer, but if there's more, we'll have another meeting.	00:28:38
	OK, All right. Anyone else?	00:28:44
	No, OK.	00:28:48
	Now do I we make a motion to go out of the public.	00:28:50
	Oh, public comments.	00:28:55
	OK, umm.	00:28:57
	OK.	00:28:58
	Now it's time for.	00:29:00
	Council members reports.	00:29:03
	Can you get spread? Jake, you want to go first.	00:29:09
	Yeah. I would just like to ask this question of the public because in our last meeting.	00:29:15
	When we were talking about the RDA extension and.	00:29:23
	Vineyard City and us running the bill.	00:29:27
	To the legislature to extend the RDA. Umm.	00:29:31
	An additional 25 years.	00:29:36
	And then putting that into conjunction with Josh's memo today in this meeting where?	00:29:39
	He is citing that the RDA has no cat.	00:29:45
	On the collection.	00:29:49
	So.	00:29:52
	It's not 300 million that in Josh's memo, he's saying that it's there's no cap to it.	00:29:53
	So if we if.	00:29:59
	1st 18 months we've been told that there isn't there is a cap.	00:30:02
	But in the memo today, it says that there isn't.	00:30:07
	So if we if that bill really did extend an additional 25 years?	00:30:11
	Then we did actually give them hundreds of millions of dollars more, is that?	00:30:18
	That's my first question. And then #2 in the second meeting, in the meeting it was planned for was.	00:30:25
	Disclose that we were not hiring Mr. Hartley or Sage.	00:30:32
	Solutions to be the.	00:30:37
	Lobbyists to run the bill.	00:30:39
	However, in the Ledger it does show payments in 2019.	00:30:42
	And I don't really trust the media sometimes, but it was reported that he was the one that answered the questions.	00:30:48
	So it was assumed that he worked on the bill.	00:30:54
	And there are payments.	00:30:58
	Was he, did he in fact run the bill and did we hire him to do that? Those are my 2 questions.	00:31:01
	I have more on my report but those are my.	00:31:10
	Right. Those are OK. Did did you get those, Josh?	00:31:13
	Talk about those.	00:31:18
	At the RDA meeting.	00:31:19
	Did you have like?	00:31:22
	Anything else you wanted to talk about like more?	00:31:23
	Report related.	00:31:27
	You know, if I don't have, I don't have any reports.	00:31:30
	All right, Brett.	00:31:34
	What I wanted?	00:31:39
	Is that how great I think the city's been in responding to?	00:31:41
	It just in the last meeting.	00:31:46
	Where I wasn't able to attend that we were able to pass lowering the speed limit in Leshema not.	00:31:48
	As a citizen had raised that a lot of concerns over there and just how quickly that happened.	00:31:55
	I I had.	00:32:01
	It was one of the first times I've been through anything like that.	00:32:03
	And, umm.	00:32:06
	And I had set an expectation that was going to take a lot longer.	00:32:09
	And that the city could.	00:32:12
	Respond to all of the demand.	00:32:15
	And make it happen so quickly was really amazing and.	00:32:19
	And I just think it's a testament to what happens when we work together.	00:32:22
	And listen to the demands of our citizens.	00:32:26
	Love that. Thank you. That was that's been my experience too.	00:32:30
	Marty.	00:32:34
	Brett, did you want to talk about how amazing been your days was too?	00:32:37
	Vineyard Day was amazing.	00:32:42
	I'd love to thank staff is awesome.	00:32:46
	Thank you so much for all your hard work. I know that's a big week.	00:32:49
	I also wanted to report that the Interlocal meetings have been going well.	00:32:53
	We've all been working really well together at the four different cities. We're all really excited.	00:32:58
	To see how the school board seats pan out. I know that Vineyard specifically, I think has five.	00:33:03
	Candidate. Is it four or five candidates? I think 5 for our school board seat. That's the majority.	00:33:09
	I don't know, I shouldn't say statistics that I don't have verification on but.	00:33:16
	It's a mostly vineyard area with a little bit of Orem in it.	00:33:20
	And I know that the rest of the board seats and most of them have primary elections with several.	00:33:24
	Several candidates.	00:33:31
	I also wanted to say that our economic development meetings have been going well.	00:33:33
	We seem to be.	00:33:40
	The grocery store is still on schedule from everything that I missed the last time.	00:33:42
	At the grocery store song schedule Huntsman still ahead of schedule.	00:33:47
	And.	00:33:51
	Just a lot of excitement in that area.	00:33:53
	I think that was all I wanted to report.	00:33:56
	OK, excellent.	00:33:59
	Thank you.	00:34:00
	I just had a couple things.	00:34:03
	Because I took my grandmother out to the splash pad.	00:34:06
	And those shape cells made it so that the.	00:34:09
	Playground wasn't so hot so.	00:34:12
	I know I complained a little bit about them because they're so expensive, but.	00:34:15
	They're really, really nice, so well done.	00:34:18
	And I got invited to a last minute girls trip this weekend so I missed Vineyard days and I was so sad.	00:34:22
	But I heard about all the old fashioned.	00:34:28
	Games that that were played and I love that so much. We were in Nephi for 11 years. Enough.	00:34:30
	That's just how they did things there. And it's it's just.	00:34:36
	Umm, I just think it's good for the younger generation to get a little taste of that instead of, you know, the big.	00:34:41
	Carnival thing. Anyway, I love that so.	00:34:47
	I just wanted to say that and thank you to all of the work that that staff did put it on and make it excellent and for the	00:34:50
	beautiful part we got to have it in.	00:34:54
	Volunteers and volunteer, sorry. Yes. And volunteers, right? Yes, absolutely. Thank you so much to all of you who made it, really.	00:34:58
	Really fun, you know, I couldn't hear.	00:35:06
	OK. All right.	00:35:08
	Now we're moving on to consent items.	00:35:11
	Oh, sorry, stop.	00:35:15
	Staff and committee reports are.	00:35:16
	Yes. So I just wanted to.	00:35:19
	Wrap up one other question, the Water shares question.	00:35:22
	That represents approximately 101.5 acre feet of water.	00:35:26
	One OK, Thank you.	00:35:31
	Again, each different type of.	00:35:33
	Might have a different value of acre feet. These are the seven that we purchased were lake bottom irrigation canal.	00:35:36
	Shares and those ones are worth.	00:35:42
	About 14.5 acre feet per share.	00:35:45
	Do you think I'm in cups of water?	00:35:49
	I know quite a large number.	00:35:52
	OK, so I wanted to give a monthly report.	00:35:55
	For the city and.	00:35:58
	As always, it is quite a large report, 13 pages, so I would encourage everyone to review it.	00:36:00
	But I'll just hit on a couple of the highlights.	00:36:07
	All of our departments during the summer seem to be working.	00:36:10
	On hyper mode.	00:36:14
	So I'll just highlight some things they from our rec department.	00:36:16
	They hosted 229 soccer games.	00:36:21
	They formed 32 teams for youth baseball and found 66 coaches to.	00:36:24
	Keep them under under close watch and and performance.	00:36:30
	They have they formed 8 teams for youth street hockey which just started.	00:36:35
	I saw it on the way over.	00:36:40
	You know, and 16 coaches were required for that and they were able to find those five teams for tennis and pickleball leagues with	00:36:42
	61 persistence.	00:36:47
	Our Parks Department has been working around the clock to conduct a whole bunch of different maintenance.	00:36:53
	Type activities making sure that the splash pads are working.	00:37:01
	They passed the health inspection for the for the splash pad.	00:37:05
	And then have just been going down a bullet list of items to make sure that everything is under.	00:37:09
	Under good repair.	00:37:15
	Uh, you mentioned that the shade sales were up and that's a really exciting thing to have in our parks right now with these hot	00:37:20
	days that we're having.	00:37:23
	We received 2.	00:37:28
	Donated memorial benches through the program that Brian's team is running.	00:37:30
	Which is really exciting to see that program coming up.	00:37:35
	So that we can get these beautiful benches placed around the city.	00:37:38
	Grove Park basketball and tennis courts were both resurfaced, and that was one of the.	00:37:42
	Nice things about taking our tennis court again and park offline for a little while to do the hockey.	00:37:48
	Is that we have these beautiful resurfaced courts for folks that that.	00:37:55
	Our tennis players.	00:37:59
	To go while the while the hockey is underway.	00:38:01
	As far as?	00:38:06
	Division summaries from streets and stormwater we were able to develop.	00:38:08
	This answers one of the questions that was brought up earlier.	00:38:13
	We developed a 10 year pavement preservation and maintenance plans provide.	00:38:16
	Provided by our consultant.	00:38:21
	That will be accompanied with a transportation utility fee study.	00:38:23
	And so we'll be working on that over the next few months and then present that.	00:38:27
	But the purpose behind that is to avoid the problem that was raised by the.	00:38:31
	Written.	00:38:36
	Make sure that we have sufficient funding to stay on top of those needs so that.	00:38:37
	Maintenance on our roads is as inexpensive as possible.	00:38:42
	They are absolutely correct in that if we wait.	00:38:46
	15 to 20 years before we look at our roads again.	00:38:49
	We pay the highest dollar per mile.	00:38:52
	If we take care of it as it's needed.	00:38:56
	That is.	00:38:58
	Pennies on the dollar for maintenance.	00:38:59
	Yeah, this thing did a really great presentation that locked itself into my mind so.	00:39:02
	The value of.	00:39:07
	OK, Yeah.	00:39:09
	The Public Works Department so awarded a Springs TI pond concrete lining.	00:39:12
	Project.	00:39:18
	So if anyone's been wondering why the Pi Pond is a little bit low, it's so that that maintenance can be taken, taken care of and	00:39:19
	that'll start this month.	00:39:23
	On Main Street and the road repair that was brought up, it will be completed.	00:39:27
	Towards the end of the month.	00:39:32
	Grounds and facilities. One big project that we're looking at is working with forestry, fire and state lands.	00:39:36
	To maintain our shoreline and so the city staff was able to work with them.	00:39:43
	And get permits to go down and perform annual tree and overgrowth maintenance along the shoreline.	00:39:48
	And it's really nice to get that done so that that makes that area much more usable area.	00:39:55
	From our engineering department.	00:40:02
	That transportation master plan has been reviewed by staff and then they're switching gears into that working.	00:40:06
	Working on the impact.	00:40:14
	Reassessment study.	00:40:16
	As far as projects, we're continuing to.	00:40:18
	Do the planning. This question was raised as well.	00:40:22
	We're continuing to do the planning on the Vineyard Center.	00:40:25
	We would like to see that.	00:40:28
	Of those plans be completed so that we have a package ready.	00:40:30
	The need for added space isn't going away, and so the timing of that will.	00:40:34
	Will be what we.	00:40:39
	Focus on, I suppose at some at some point.	00:40:42
	But for now, we want to make sure that we get those plans completed and.	00:40:45
	And.	00:40:48
	Make sure that the community is aware.	00:40:49
	What those needs are, what the solutions are and provide?	00:40:52
	That to the community in a timely fashion.	00:40:56
	The water tank.	00:41:00
	Is essentially complete. They're running the final tests on that and they expect to have that up and running.	00:41:02
	They've done water water tests, they've filled it up.	00:41:09
	And they're just making sure that they've got any of the little leaks here and there.	00:41:12
	That were expected, all patched up and ready to be used.	00:41:17
	In July.	00:41:21
	Trail enhancements so the city met with Orem City.	00:41:24
	And UDOT to review the final plans and costs.	00:41:28
	For the 400 S and Center St.	00:41:31
	Fixes.	00:41:35
	And also as part of that, they requested additional funding through MAG to help complete that project.	00:41:36
	The Vineyard Connector Bridge is under construction, as many of you have seen.	00:41:43
	And that started on May 20th.	00:41:47
	And I don't know that we have a completion date yet, but.	00:41:50
	Watch for that as things start to happen and go over the road there.	00:41:54
	From our community development team.	00:42:02
	The Wayfinding and Design The Wayfinding design consultants are currently finalizing the design concepts for the.	00:42:04
	Wayfinding and mill Rd. design.	00:42:11
	They will present those.	00:42:14
	Both plans to the city.	00:42:17
	Starting in June, So we should be seeing drafts of those plans here shortly.	00:42:20
	The lakefront grant. So a few years ago, the county.	00:42:26
	Provided.	00:42:31
	Vineyard City with a.	00:42:32
	Three and Change $1,000,000 grant.	00:42:34
	The the county approved for the city to use those.	00:42:38
	Funds to go towards block 6, which is the.	00:42:42
	The block out nearest to the lake.	00:42:46
	And so we're excited to see that work go forward.	00:42:48
	Does that start this summer?	00:42:54
	It does start this summer, yes, that's exciting.	00:42:55
	I like to report every time we get new businesses in the city and it seems to be every month.	00:42:59
	This month we have two new commercial businesses and two new home occupation businesses that came into the city.	00:43:05
	Can you tell us what?	00:43:14
	What they are, we have Mountain Pure LLC, a commercial entity.	00:43:16
	Intermountain Health.	00:43:21
	Vineyard Clinic.	00:43:24
	And then we have something called M4 Dynamic in Clover Lane LLC as the two home occupations.	00:43:27
	Thanks.	00:43:33
	As far as residential, this is.	00:43:38
	Maybe interesting more to me than anyone else, but.	00:43:40
	But our total units occupied and vineyard are now 5646 units.	00:43:43
	With an estimated population of 22,055.	00:43:48
	This month we had three residential unit.	00:43:52
	Certificate of Occupancy is issued, so those are.	00:43:57
	All three for single family homes.	00:43:59
	And throughout the month.	00:44:02
	Our inspection team, our building team was very busy. I think this is a higher number than last month.	00:44:04
	There were 806 total inspections.	00:44:09
	Which breaks down to 38.38 inspections per day for the team.	00:44:12
	So if they're not in the office, you know that they are out.	00:44:18
	Working hard trying to get those all completed.	00:44:22
	With that, I'll complete my report.	00:44:24
	Excellent. Thank you. That's.	00:44:27
	A lot it.	00:44:29
	It's amazing to me.	00:44:30
	You know you live in a city.	00:44:32
	I'm 55 now, sorry.	00:44:34
	You live in all these cities.	00:44:36
	And it's hard to comprehend all of the working pieces.	00:44:37
	That make it so nice you know and take for granted.	00:44:41
	All the people that work to keep it nice and make it nice. So thank you very much.	00:44:44
	OK, so now we.	00:44:53
	Move to consent.	00:44:56
	Items is.	00:44:59
	Does anyone have any question?	00:45:01
	About the consent items.	00:45:03
	Yeah, Should I make a motion to remove once we can discuss it or?	00:45:06
	Is that?	00:45:11
	I just want to. I just wanted to get a little the only one on here that I feel like.	00:45:12
	We should have some kind of public comment on is the.	00:45:17
	Water supply agreement.	00:45:20
	Just bad I think. I feel like the others we've discussed previously publicly.	00:45:22
	But that one.	00:45:26
	I personally haven't reviewed it, don't think that there's anything.	00:45:27
	Do we need to worry about in there? I just feel like it would be nice if we could.	00:45:32
	Talk about it a little bit.	00:45:36
	I agree with that. You want to discuss it now, or you want to pull it off to do a work session on another?	00:45:38
	To me, it's more about making sure that everybody understands what it actually.	00:45:45
	OK. So I think typically what we would do is we would approve the remaining items and then we would.	00:45:50
	Discuss that that one 8.5.	00:45:55
	As a separate item.	00:45:58
	OK, so.	00:45:59
	I can make a motion to approve 8.18.28.3 and 8.4 as presented.	00:46:02
	OK, second.	00:46:11
	And this will be done by Roco.	00:46:13
	Yes.	00:46:18
	So.	00:46:19
	OK, party.	00:46:22
	Hi, Jake.	00:46:24
	Aye, Brett.	00:46:27
	Aye.	00:46:30
	Sarah.	00:46:31
	I OK.	00:46:35
	All right, so now we talk about it.	00:46:38
	OK, umm.	00:46:40
	So did you have questions you want to leave out, Brett? So, so to me the question was for for staff, if they could just give an	00:46:42
	overview of what of.	00:46:46
	What it is?	00:46:51
	And then?	00:46:52
	If we have questions based on that, I think that would be great.	00:46:53
	So this is a water supply agreement between central UT Water Conservancy District and Vindner City.	00:46:57
	And short.	00:47:06
	Continues to.	00:47:08
	Excuse me, this is this execution disagreement as a critical component of the cities original commitment.	00:47:10
	To Central Utah water.	00:47:16
	And part of our commitments.	00:47:18
	We constructed 6,000,000 gallon water tank to house our own water.	00:47:20
	Previously we've been using. We've been.	00:47:25
	Housing the water in central Utah waters.	00:47:28
	System as well as civil war system this is going.	00:47:31
	The 6,000,000 can you hear me?	00:47:35
	This is going to get.	00:47:39
	Feedback. So yeah, that's probably my new glasses.	00:47:40
	Right there I gotta shut them off so.	00:47:44
	There's 6,000,000 gallon or tank up.	00:47:48
	Allows us to store the water with. What this will do is commitment. For us. It's a multi agency commitment. Central retail water	00:47:50
	is also one.	00:47:55
	To transfer the water.	00:48:00
	1500 acre feet of water.	00:48:02
	From City of Orem into to Central Utah Water Conservancy District, Central Utah Water Conservative District will supply that 1500	00:48:04
	acre feet of water.	00:48:09
	To Veneer City in addition to the other acre.	00:48:14
	Of water, that Central Utah water that we purchased from Central UT Water.	00:48:17
	Our conservative district.	00:48:21
	In order to house into our in order to house into our 6,000,000 gallon water tech.	00:48:22
	So this agreement here is an agreement formalizing.	00:48:28
	Those transfers of those water acre feet of water just from the city for.	00:48:32
	Into the central Utah water system to provide us To provide us.	00:48:37
	So the agreement summarized the annual allocation of 1500 acre feet.	00:48:45
	Of CWP is the Central Water project.	00:48:50
	And it has phase takedowns as Jones Exhibit A.	00:48:55
	The storage talks about the part of the agreement talks about the storage.	00:49:00
	Of umm.	00:49:05
	Storing it Storing 6,000,000 gallons of water.	00:49:07
	And to winner cities.	00:49:10
	Tank and with 2,000,000 gallons of permanent storage.	00:49:12
	In central Utah water system.	00:49:18
	That you know in gallons.	00:49:20
	In essence, provides for.	00:49:22
	Of fireflow surgery.	00:49:26
	So in the case of a park, a fireflow.	00:49:27
	Or other or other.	00:49:30
	I'll say like almost inconsistencies were allowed to really utilize our water. So that's that agreement.	00:49:31
	This agreement formalizes that.	00:49:37
	It does put down some parameters.	00:49:39
	In terms of using it, those parameters are mainly to ensure that central Utah water.	00:49:41
	The rate of water that we take from central water is within certain parameters, so they don't see a big spike of water.	00:49:47
	The math from the earth because they supply other customers as well.	00:49:55
	So it just kind of outlines this parameters.	00:50:00
	And.	00:50:04
	The term is perpetual. That means still down the time.	00:50:06
	And for sure, as long as we as we pay.	00:50:10
	For as we're paying for the water.	00:50:13
	It outlines the fee structure at one time development fee charge.	00:50:16
	So this outlines the 1500 gallons of water.	00:50:20
	1500 acre free water that we're taking in from from from Orem City to central Utah water.	00:50:23
	Typically just we talked about is impact these what they call takedown fees.	00:50:28
	Set this formalizes the Central Utah water will not be charging those takedown fees or impact fees to Vinger cities since we've	00:50:33
	already paid that to to OM City.	00:50:37
	So which is good because.	00:50:41
	We're not going to be billed twice.	00:50:44
	So that formalizes that view. But however, in the future water, we would have any takedown fees for future water, which again we	00:50:46
	pass along to the developers, they were the ones who would be demanding those.	00:50:52
	Are requiring that making us utilize those. There we go.	00:50:58
	It talks about annual fees, O&M components and capital recovery components in essence.	00:51:04
	Kind of putting us on the same page as.	00:51:09
	As the other customers on Central Utah water system.	00:51:12
	And nothing different than what we've already been doing with Central retail water.	00:51:15
	And then of course, it talks about the surcharges on exceeding the contract.	00:51:21
	We talked about the 2,000,000 gallons that they currently have and permanent supply of inner city that if we go outside those	00:51:25
	boundaries they do have the right.	00:51:29
	To charge for inner city is like a one time over it just like you're just like a Internet.	00:51:34
	You go, you go over your allocation, they hit you with a fee on that. So is this, you know, good faith?	00:51:40
	On that, we actually ran some modeling recently with our.	00:51:46
	And.	00:51:50
	You know where we work things to ensure that we stay with them that so even in the case utilize it 2,000,000 gallons, we have a	00:51:52
	system in place to ensure that we're not going to be charged over charges as well so.	00:51:57
	It's just formalizes that agreement.	00:52:04
	And it fulfills the key obligation.	00:52:08
	Between the Parkinson's of inner city central Utah water as well as with the City Hall as well on that.	00:52:13
	So in short, that's disagreement that notional.	00:52:19
	Questions, right?	00:52:23
	OK.	00:52:27
	Council, do you have any questions? The only question I had.	00:52:30
	Are they answered? Which was how are we protecting ourselves from over this?	00:52:34
	OK. Jake, you have any questions?	00:52:40
	No, I have any questions. OK, Marty.	00:52:45
	No, OK. So we're good to approve it.	00:52:48
	Yeah, but do you want to make a motion?	00:52:51
	I move to adopt resolution 202530.	00:52:56
	What's that?	00:53:01
	To approve an adult.	00:53:03
	Sorry, what was I?	00:53:06
	To move, to approve and adopt.	00:53:08
	Consent item 8.5 as presented.	00:53:11
	I'll second.	00:53:14
	Perfect. This will be done by roll call.	00:53:16
	Take aye.	00:53:18
	Brett.	00:53:22
	Ready, Hi.	00:53:24
	Aye.	00:53:26
	OK, let's see.	00:53:30
	Now we move to business items.	00:53:33
	So 10.1 discussion and action in your zoning code update.	00:53:37
	So this is the.	00:53:46
	The long.	00:53:47
	Project that Cash and the development team have been working on and have held meetings with each of the council members.	00:53:49
	It is a long list of tweaks here and there to improve the code, bring it up statute, and so forth.	00:53:56
	And so if there's any specific questions, we could field those. Otherwise I think it's something that the Council is quite.	00:54:02
	Comfortable with or familiar with I should say.	00:54:08
	Yeah, I I love that they the goal was to simplify the language, I think.	00:54:12
	Cash has done a really good job.	00:54:16
	Going through it.	00:54:18
	Are there any questions from the Council?	00:54:19
	Marty.	00:54:22
	Just to clarify since the last time you spoke.	00:54:26
	There hasn't been any major changes. I know that there was some discussion talking about. I know Mayor said she had questions.	00:54:29
	Do you know if any changes have been made in that area?	00:54:37
	I'm not aware of any changes since we we went through the points.	00:54:39
	I think that the mayor probably was looking for clarification on some of the.	00:54:44
	The items that were being discussed.	00:54:48
	A part of that was my request. I wanted to look at some of the changes that related to short term rentals.	00:54:51
	And make sure that they.	00:54:57
	Were enforceable. I had some conversations with cash and uncomfortable.	00:54:59
	What's in here?	00:55:03
	OK.	00:55:04
	Brett, no, I've had enough reviews with cash to feel comfortable with where we are.	00:55:07
	OK, take.	00:55:13
	Kath, were there any changes between when I spoke with you and Kelly and between?	00:55:15
	You and Jamie that I should know about. He's in New Zealand.	00:55:21
	Yeah, again.	00:55:27
	No changes that I'm aware of, Jamie. I'm not aware of any changes.	00:55:29
	OK, there's no density or anything like that. It's just vocabulary stuff that we went through cleaning up the code stuff.	00:55:33
	Well, I know that there are some significant changes.	00:55:41
	In here but I.	00:55:44
	But we went through them all last time.	00:55:46
	And I I personally feel comfortable with it.	00:55:49
	Umm, it's just.	00:55:53
	As I've been going through this again, it's always hard to know. We see the red and the green, but.	00:55:56
	Did the red and the green change? Yeah. So to answer Councilmember Holloway's question.	00:56:01
	Since there are substantive changes in.	00:56:07
	The code updates.	00:56:11
	There have not been changes to the substance since the last.	00:56:14
	Council meeting.	00:56:18
	Right. That's what I meant to say. Thank you.	00:56:21
	I'm good with it.	00:56:25
	OK, perfect.	00:56:26
	Let's see. So I need a motion.	00:56:29
	To approve this right.	00:56:33
	OK.	00:56:35
	Somebody want to make a motion?	00:56:36
	I move to adopt Ordinance 2025.	00:56:41
	03 Zoning text amendment as presented.	00:56:43
	2nd.	00:56:48
	OK, I.	00:56:54
	Oh, all in favor.	00:56:56
	Hi.	00:56:58
	Hi. And then it was pretty.	00:57:00
	Quick and we got everybody's but as an ordinance too, can we also do that one as a roll call just to.	00:57:03
	Yeah. OK. All right. By roll call, Jake.	00:57:10
	Aye, Brett, hi.	00:57:15
	Marty, hi.	00:57:18
	I am I supposed to say my name?	00:57:20
	OK. All right.	00:57:25
	Let's see.	00:57:27
	And this one is hearing.	00:57:30
	You will want to motion engineer now.	00:57:32
	OK, so does someone.	00:57:36
	We I make a motion, you can ask someone to you can someone want to make a motion to go into a public hearing for the consolidated	00:57:37
	fee schedule amendment?	00:57:42
	So moved.	00:57:46
	2nd.	00:57:48
	OK, we are now, oh sorry, all in favor.	00:57:50
	Hi. Hi.	00:57:53
	Yeah, I.	00:58:00
	OK, I just have.	00:58:03
	Couple quick ones, um.	00:58:05
	On page #4.	00:58:09
	This is just for the concessions, so we have the Grove Park concessions, food truck contracts.	00:58:11
	For non city events.	00:58:16
	That will be $500 per month.	00:58:19
	The Grove Park concession semi permanent structure contract for non city events is $1000 per month.	00:58:21
	And then the Grove Park concessions contract late fee, that's $25.	00:58:27
	And then on page.	00:58:36
	15 I believe.	00:58:39
	Correct, Page 15 we're doing the.	00:58:43
	Parks and Recreations.	00:58:46
	Impact fees.	00:58:48
	And that is 3422 or $3422.88 per household.	00:58:50
	And then there's that stipulation that household as defined by the US Census Bureau.	00:58:56
	And that is it.	00:59:02
	OK. Does anyone have any questions?	00:59:06
	OK. Does the public have any questions?	00:59:12
	OK, sorry.	00:59:17
	Thanks, Maria.	00:59:19
	I I.	00:59:21
	Daria Evans.	00:59:29
	Vineyard resident.	00:59:31
	I have some questions about the transportation utility fee.	00:59:33
	It's not on this. It's not on this. It's in the consolidated fee schedule. It says transportation utility fee.	00:59:40
	So we do have that in the consolidated fee schedule currently, but we're not charging it.	00:59:49
	That's from previously, we just haven't done any updates, right? That's why I have some questions about.	00:59:55
	OK, It was adopted in March of 2015.	01:00:00
	And as I was reading through Utah Gov it says it has expired during ten years.	01:00:04
	So now we have to have a new study. Is this correct? You kind of mentioned something about that.	01:00:10
	OK.	01:00:16
	And so we'll need to.	01:00:17
	Restart that process.	01:00:19
	Before we can impose a new test.	01:00:21
	Right now it was set for $3.50 a month.	01:00:24
	And I'm wondering if.	01:00:28
	That fee is going to go up after the study is completed.	01:00:30
	And I'm wondering if.	01:00:34
	The maintenance of effort.	01:00:38
	That implementing a tough allows.	01:00:41
	The city will provide new services.	01:00:44
	Other than just regular Rd. maintenance. But we cannot impose a tough unless it will provide new services.	01:00:48
	For our roads.	01:00:54
	Side Beyond new sidewalks.	01:00:56
	According to Utah Gov. That's what it says.	01:00:59
	So I'm just curious about that.	01:01:02
	I can bring it up with you.	01:01:06
	I think that's a great question, Daria. You could probably stay up here because that's what we discussed after the public hearing	01:01:08
	or can we discuss now?	01:01:12
	Sorry, I didn't mean to take over.	01:01:17
	I wasn't sure if that was a statement or a question. I'm asking you when the best time to answer Darius questions during the	01:01:19
	public hearing or after we close it.	01:01:25
	Probably best after OK.	01:01:33
	But I'll be ready for it, OK?	01:01:36
	Amnesty.	01:01:38
	OK. Any other questions from the public?	01:01:40
	OK. So we need a motion to go out of the public hearing. I move to go out of the public hearing.	01:01:44
	2nd.	01:01:50
	This is. Wait, is this done by Roko?	01:01:52
	No, that's the resolution. No, just an upper down. All in favor.	01:01:56
	Aye.	01:02:02
	Oh oh.	01:02:03
	Before you go into vote, are you going to take off the transportation?	01:02:07
	Fee schedule, I mean that tough fee before you vote on it.	01:02:10
	Because.	01:02:15
	It has expired.	01:02:16
	And if it's listed on there, it sounds like you're approving.	01:02:18
	The tough, the tough was.	01:02:21
	Was cancelled.	01:02:25
	In January of 2020.	01:02:26
	No, it expires in 10 years. It was implemented in 2015 and it goes for 10 years. So it expired in March of this year. I hear what	01:02:29
	you're saying.	01:02:34
	The tough was cancelled by the City Council in on January 1st of 2020 and has not been charged since then.	01:02:38
	So it currently is not charged.	01:02:46
	Part of the transportation utility or transportation master plan.	01:02:48
	And transportation utility fee study.	01:02:52
	Is to explore that and that will come to.	01:02:55
	The Council and to the public at a future meeting.	01:02:59
	OK, so then we will not.	01:03:02
	With the approval of this consent item.	01:03:04
	That transportation fee will not.	01:03:06
	It won't be reimplemented or anything, no.	01:03:09
	OK. Thank you very much. Thank you for that clarification.	01:03:11
	OK.	01:03:17
	OK.	01:03:20
	OK, so.	01:03:23
	Is there any discussion?	01:03:25
	On this from the Council.	01:03:26
	Brett Phaneuf Nothing for me.	01:03:30
	Marty.	01:03:32
	OK.	01:03:34
	OK.	01:03:37
	So we need a motion to adopt Resolution 2025-29, consolidated.	01:03:38
	Schedule amendment as presented.	01:03:44
	So moved.	01:03:51
	2nd.	01:03:53
	OK, this needs to be done. This needs to be done by roll call.	01:03:54
	Marty.	01:03:58
	Hi, Brett. Hi, Jake.	01:03:59
	Aye, aye.	01:04:03
	OK. I think that's it.	01:04:06
	Yeah, OK, so the City Council meeting is adjourned.	01:04:10
	Minutes, a couple minutes so I can do everything. So a 10 minute recess and then we'll start our 8th RDA meeting.	01:04:18
	Tony, do I just stay in here?	01:04:27
	OK.	01:04:30