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| All right, we're going to go ahead and open our City Council special session. It's January 29th, 2025, and the time is 7/21. | 00:00:01 | |
| We'll go ahead and start with the most exciting and riveting part of our whole night. | 00:00:11 | |
| Which is our audit report. | 00:00:15 | |
| And Spencer Hensley will come up. He's a CPA from Gilbert and Stewart. | 00:00:18 | |
| It's exciting to see you back and I said your name right this time because I asked you before you did. I appreciate that. I've | 00:00:23 | |
| heard it a lot of different ways, so appreciate you doing that right. | 00:00:27 | |
| Yeah, like like you mentioned, it's good to be back. | 00:00:33 | |
| This marked my 10th year of doing this audit, so I've seen the growth, I've been a part of it and it's been a lot of fun, so. | 00:00:36 | |
| I first want to say thank you to the staff and everybody that. | 00:00:45 | |
| Works here and for the good work that they do in there. | 00:00:49 | |
| Way that they were able to help us get through this. | 00:00:52 | |
| Are to never fun. | 00:00:54 | |
| Obviously they're required. | 00:00:56 | |
| So we make it as painless as possible. So. | 00:00:57 | |
| Like you mentioned, I'm the CPA that. | 00:01:01 | |
| A partner at Gilbert and Stewart here in Provo we're. | 00:01:05 | |
| Third party. | 00:01:07 | |
| Auditor and we come in and we. | 00:01:09 | |
| Through the audit that is required. | 00:01:11 | |
| I know I dropped off the financial statements maybe a month or so ago. I don't know if you have those in front of you or not. | 00:01:15 | |
| I'll be honest with you, I'm not going to dive into them too much. | 00:01:21 | |
| It might help bring the. | 00:01:27 | |
| Tension down a little bit to get into it and bore people out, but I won't do that. | 00:01:28 | |
| I'll just kind of go over what we do as auditors and kind of a little bit of insight in some of the things that we do. | 00:01:33 | |
| So we really do focus on three things and those three things are presented in three different reports or letters in that auto | 00:01:40 | |
| packet. | 00:01:44 | |
| We focused on the financial statements that they're materially correct. | 00:01:48 | |
| Internal controls, if they're effective. | 00:01:51 | |
| And then some Utah State legal audit compliance items, so. | 00:01:54 | |
| If you jump to that. | 00:01:58 | |
| Auto report just there on page. | 00:01:59 | |
| One this is the main. | 00:02:02 | |
| Report that we issue and this is on. | 00:02:05 | |
| Giving an opinion on whether we feel that. | 00:02:09 | |
| Financial statements are materially correct. You can see there just there on the 2nd on the second paragraph. | 00:02:12 | |
| So in our opinion, the financial statement referred to above present fairly and all material respects or respective financial | 00:02:18 | |
| position of. | 00:02:22 | |
| And it's of Vineyard City, so. | 00:02:26 | |
| That sounds pretty boring, but that's exactly what you want to hear as a city. That's what's considered your unmodified opinion or | 00:02:29 | |
| your clean opinion. So. | 00:02:33 | |
| Which means. | 00:02:37 | |
| In the course of doing our audit, we didn't come across anything that caused us to believe there was a material weakness so. | 00:02:38 | |
| Some of the ways that. | 00:02:45 | |
| Or how we were able to get to that conclusion. | 00:02:46 | |
| We're reviewing the trial balance, ensuring that everything is. | 00:02:50 | |
| Clerically accurate. | 00:02:53 | |
| We're doing confirmations, cash confirmations, property tax, sales tax. | 00:02:55 | |
| VNC roads. | 00:02:59 | |
| URS all sorts of confirmations to make sure everything's right. | 00:03:00 | |
| We're reviewing invoices. We're sampling disbursements at the beginning of the audit. | 00:03:04 | |
| Capital assets, accounts payable, accru payable, anything you can think of. | 00:03:08 | |
| We were recalculating the balances and we're also doing analytic overview so. | 00:03:11 | |
| Once we go through that big, long process, we're able to get to that opinion. | 00:03:16 | |
| Which again, is that clean opinion, which is what you want to hear. | 00:03:20 | |
| I won't dive into a lot of the statements. There's a lot of information in there. I know that. | 00:03:23 | |
| Christy is really good. She understands things there if you have questions. She also has a way to get ahold of me if you have | 00:03:29 | |
| anything. | 00:03:31 | |
| Very specific about that. | 00:03:34 | |
| Umm, the next thing I want to jump to. | 00:03:37 | |
| Is kind of the second item that we really focus on a lot and that's. | 00:03:39 | |
| To test whether internal controls are effective. | 00:03:44 | |
| We really need to spend time testing these to help us. | 00:03:49 | |
| Gain the ability to give that opinion on the materiality of the Nash statements. | 00:03:52 | |
| I do need to say we do not offer an opinion on the internal controls. That's an important part of this, but we do have to look at | 00:03:58 | |
| them. We're looking at three main things. | 00:04:01 | |
| How are they designed, how are they implemented and are they working effectively? | 00:04:06 | |
| We've kind of performed the following. We review policies and procedures. We do interviews, walkthroughs and questionnaires. | 00:04:11 | |
| This year, I know we really focused hard on cash receipts, cash dispersants and payrolls. | 00:04:18 | |
| So we checked the internal controls on each of those. | 00:04:23 | |
| If we are to find the large areas in the city. | 00:04:27 | |
| In which there was number controls or controls that were never implemented. | 00:04:30 | |
| Where I've been totally ignored, then we would bring that to your attention and that would be considered a material weakness and | 00:04:34 | |
| internal controls. | 00:04:37 | |
| And we found none of those, so that's good. | 00:04:41 | |
| The other part is if when we're looking at controls, if. | 00:04:43 | |
| Those that are designed and implemented but are not working effectively. | 00:04:47 | |
| Then we would bring those to your attention as well and those would be considered a significant deficiency. There's a little bit | 00:04:51 | |
| difference, but. | 00:04:54 | |
| Either way, we didn't find either of those, and that's good, so. | 00:04:57 | |
| Again, we don't offer an opinion on the internal controls as a whole over the city because there are too many of them and it's | 00:05:00 | |
| outside the scope of what we do. | 00:05:04 | |
| But within the scope of us issuing an opinion on the financial statements, we didn't find anything that constituted A weakness or | 00:05:08 | |
| deficiency, so. | 00:05:12 | |
| The last thing on that last report there? | 00:05:17 | |
| Is the state compliance? | 00:05:20 | |
| There's a in the middle there. You'll see this is on page 60. Sorry, it's clear in the back. | 00:05:23 | |
| To see a section there, kind of a list of the different areas that we looked at. | 00:05:28 | |
| The items that we're supposed to check and do are handed down to us by the state auditor's office and we go through each of those | 00:05:33 | |
| compliance. | 00:05:37 | |
| And we look at those different areas. | 00:05:41 | |
| Some of them are on a three-year cycle but the majority of them are we look at every single year because they are important and | 00:05:43 | |
| they matter so. | 00:05:46 | |
| But as we work through each of those compliance guides. | 00:05:50 | |
| We weren't able to find any non compliance items either so. | 00:05:53 | |
| That really is a tribute to your staff and he was the council. | 00:05:58 | |
| And what you have implemented and worked through. | 00:06:01 | |
| And yeah, everything seems to be working great, and that's a really good thing, so. | 00:06:04 | |
| I won't. Like I said, I won't dive into everything else, but is there any questions on any of that? | 00:06:09 | |
| Any questions? | 00:06:14 | |
| No, but I have a comment. | 00:06:18 | |
| Not for you, just generally. I can wait till everyone's ready. | 00:06:19 | |
| Well, just thank you. Yeah, thank you to staff this. I know this is such a big process that you guys go through. So it's exciting | 00:06:23 | |
| to see. Yeah. And we were able to get it done much earlier than. | 00:06:28 | |
| Previous years when we're just going to keep working through that just because it gets busier for everybody at the end of the | 00:06:34 | |
| year. So we were able to do that and again. | 00:06:37 | |
| Is a huge tribute to Christie and. | 00:06:41 | |
| I know she stepped into a pretty tricky position. | 00:06:43 | |
| Umm, with the turnover and she. | 00:06:46 | |
| Handled it great, yeah. So she's been amazing, yeah. | 00:06:48 | |
| Thank you. Thank you. | 00:06:52 | |
| You had a comment say. | 00:06:54 | |
| He had a comment. | 00:06:57 | |
| I just thought the overall process and the words. | 00:07:00 | |
| Uh-huh. | 00:07:03 | |
| I I understand what not it is and speaking with the state auditor and working with him a lot. | 00:07:06 | |
| And I think on Facebook, there's a lot of times citizens will throw out the word illegal or the difference between illegal or | 00:07:12 | |
| corrupt or best practices. | 00:07:16 | |
| And umm, in my line of work for government procurement, I always look at. | 00:07:21 | |
| What was the process in which? | 00:07:26 | |
| You know, government is always set up to not trust anybody. | 00:07:30 | |
| I don't trust you. You don't trust it's actually good. It's like that's what it was set up for, right? | 00:07:34 | |
| And so when I look at an entire process from its totality, I look at the process and the word corrupt can and should be used for | 00:07:38 | |
| broken or dysfunctional processes. | 00:07:44 | |
| In this context, and I wrote this out because Eric asked me about what do you mean by this? | 00:07:49 | |
| And our meetings and I said a corrupt process isn't necessarily referring to a moral wrongdoing. | 00:07:54 | |
| Rather, something that is spoiled rotten or perverted in a way that undermines the intended function or the integrity of that | 00:08:00 | |
| government process. | 00:08:04 | |
| So for example. | 00:08:08 | |
| A corrupt process can describe a system that has become so inefficient or dysfunctional and biased to a point that it no longer | 00:08:10 | |
| serves the. | 00:08:14 | |
| Intended purpose. | 00:08:19 | |
| For example, like our City Council meeting, it's. | 00:08:20 | |
| To we do a notice to say hey. | 00:08:23 | |
| We're doing this. | 00:08:27 | |
| We make it publicly noticed. | 00:08:29 | |
| We then hold that meeting and then it's disclosed. | 00:08:31 | |
| And if the process is corrupted in such a way that. | 00:08:35 | |
| It's distorted where the mechanism that was supposed to ensure fairness. | 00:08:40 | |
| Or efficiency or transparency to the end of the day. | 00:08:44 | |
| They leave and they go. We don't know where in Europe. | 00:08:47 | |
| Or we don't know. | 00:08:51 | |
| This is happening. | 00:08:52 | |
| That is the word that I use when I say corrupt because I want the 3rd grade level citizen. | 00:08:54 | |
| To be able to. | 00:09:00 | |
| Read a notice or to be able to attend a meeting. | 00:09:02 | |
| And go. I understand. | 00:09:05 | |
| So therefore all. | 00:09:07 | |
| All citizens can understand that process, and then they can then therefore hold me. | 00:09:10 | |
| Accountable. So if my words have. | 00:09:15 | |
| Like, oh, this is corrupt and therefore someone is taking money to the jail, you know, this or that. | 00:09:18 | |
| My process and I think we had this during the budgetary process, which is. | 00:09:23 | |
| If we stay so high level in the budget. | 00:09:27 | |
| Where? | 00:09:30 | |
| Miscellaneous and there's really large sums. It doesn't give me the availability and when you go through and do an audit. | 00:09:31 | |
| And that is in miscellaneous. | 00:09:38 | |
| They will pass the audit. | 00:09:40 | |
| Or whatnot. Because the. | 00:09:42 | |
| That is a miscellaneous spend and it wouldn't ever come up as illegal or anything. | 00:09:45 | |
| But is a process of transparency or what we're trying to get to? | 00:09:49 | |
| I would say and I try to look for ways in which. | 00:09:53 | |
| We can look at that process and say, hey, let's. | 00:09:57 | |
| Let's make sure everyone understands exactly what's going on, so. | 00:09:59 | |
| This is my comment. | 00:10:02 | |
| How I think a good procurement or spending process is because. | 00:10:05 | |
| It's definitely not illegal. | 00:10:09 | |
| But it's trying to. | 00:10:11 | |
| Make it so citizens know. | 00:10:13 | |
| And can understand it. | 00:10:16 | |
| And have that visibility. | 00:10:18 | |
| And I just want to strive to as best as we can. Can I just mention something really quick? You brought up miscellaneous. | 00:10:19 | |
| And I just wanted to remind you that when we were in the budget season. | 00:10:26 | |
| I asked Christy to go through the miscellaneous and anything over a certain dollar amount she could breakdown. | 00:10:29 | |
| And she did. | 00:10:34 | |
| So I just wanted to. | 00:10:35 | |
| Remind you of that. And I will say to you as part of the audit, there's no like. | 00:10:37 | |
| Miscellaneous. | 00:10:42 | |
| We we compare a. | 00:10:43 | |
| Trial balance. Account groupings. Account classifications. | 00:10:46 | |
| And there really is. | 00:10:49 | |
| Miscellaneous. It's usually categorized as something else, right? And it's also tied to your budget, so. | 00:10:50 | |
| To say that auditors just. | 00:10:56 | |
| Taking miscellaneous, we pass it. No, no, I'm not saying you, I'm saying it in the audit it doesn't, but. | 00:10:58 | |
| If it fits within those banks, but when the previous year we went and did a budget and it's just travel or. | 00:11:03 | |
| Economic development or whatever. | 00:11:11 | |
| It's very difficult for us to see that, oh, this is in San Diego or this is where we're at. | 00:11:12 | |
| It'll it'll pass the flying colors because. | 00:11:18 | |
| The City Council came through and voted through, voted it through. | 00:11:21 | |
| And as long as we don't go over that fresh cup. | 00:11:25 | |
| You know that threshold of what it is. | 00:11:28 | |
| But if that's the bare minimum of what? | 00:11:32 | |
| We want, I mean what I want as a government, which is when we do a public notice, it's. | 00:11:35 | |
| We're doing an ambassadorship or we're doing this and this is the total dollar amount. | 00:11:40 | |
| Come and talk about the merits of what that is. | 00:11:45 | |
| Even though the legality is, we probably don't have to use those words. | 00:11:48 | |
| We don't have we. We can be very vague in it and keep things very high level. I think it would establish trust. | 00:11:52 | |
| To do everything we can to look at the process and say. | 00:11:58 | |
| Does this allow for a citizen? | 00:12:02 | |
| When voting or prior to voting to be able to understand what's going on, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. So anyway, that's what I just | 00:12:05 | |
| wanted to clarify. | 00:12:08 | |
| You're looking at legality on this process, which is important. I'm gonna just clarify. | 00:12:12 | |
| I think this is a separate comment where he's just trying to articulate the difference between what you're doing and what his | 00:12:18 | |
| goals are, so I'm going to call for a motion of approval. | 00:12:23 | |
| Or however you guys feel about the audit, can I get a motion? The motion will be to accept the audit, to accept the audit. | 00:12:29 | |
| Forgive me. | 00:12:35 | |
| I moved to accept. | 00:12:36 | |
| Financial audit as presented. Thank you. I have a first by Marty. Can I get a second? | 00:12:39 | |
| Second. Second by Sarah. All in favor. | 00:12:44 | |
| Excellent. Thank you so much for coming. Great job. Thank you team. | 00:12:47 | |
| All right, we're going to go ahead and hear from EDC Utah. | 00:12:51 | |
| We're so excited to have you guys here. | 00:12:54 | |
| Umm OK umm. | 00:12:57 | |
| We have with us our CEO and President, Scott Cuthbertson. | 00:12:59 | |
| I've almost got your name wrong, but. | 00:13:03 | |
| Like a little bit of a tongue twister. And Greg Bisping. And Greg, I was looking at what you do. Do you have a new title this | 00:13:06 | |
| year? | 00:13:10 | |
| Yeah. | 00:13:14 | |
| Of Investor relations, OK. I wanted to make sure that I didn't say the community one, I was like, I feel like you have gotten a | 00:13:17 | |
| few titles this year so of investor relations. | 00:13:21 | |
| Perfect. | 00:13:27 | |
| And you guys, I'm going to go ahead and let you guys introduce to the community what you specialize in and what you do and our | 00:13:28 | |
| partnership and we're just really excited to have you here today. Could you clarify just for the public what EDC stands for? | 00:13:34 | |
| Sure. That's the Economic Development Corporation of Utah. | 00:13:41 | |
| And thank you, Mayor, for the introduction. Council members, we appreciate the opportunity to be here and present to you. | 00:13:46 | |
| We know you have a lot on the agenda, so we'll try to be concise. | 00:13:52 | |
| And happy to answer questions as we go along or at the end. | 00:13:55 | |
| EDC, Utah. What we do is. | 00:13:59 | |
| Create opportunity economic opportunity in the state of Utah primarily through. | 00:14:02 | |
| Facilitating job creation. We're at private nonprofit. | 00:14:08 | |
| We've been around for nearly 40 years. We're supported by cities, counties and private sector members, about 200 organizations in | 00:14:12 | |
| total. | 00:14:17 | |
| Then it has been a member with us since 2017. | 00:14:23 | |
| And. | 00:14:27 | |
| Have this mission of. | 00:14:28 | |
| Advancing economic prosperity. How we do that? | 00:14:30 | |
| We do that through primarily 3 different ways of different services. | 00:14:32 | |
| Our core competency is. | 00:14:37 | |
| Helping to recruit. | 00:14:40 | |
| Businesses to the state helping companies that are in Utah expand. | 00:14:41 | |
| Create new jobs we facilitate. | 00:14:46 | |
| The site selection process we do business case analysis provide resources to those companies and to economic developers local. | 00:14:49 | |
| Local stakeholders and then we basically. | 00:14:57 | |
| Sort of shepherd them through the states incentives process if they're going forth sentence. | 00:15:00 | |
| We have an in house research team. | 00:15:04 | |
| And we do a lot of training and have events that help. | 00:15:06 | |
| To kind of foster economic development, we give trainings. | 00:15:10 | |
| Virtually and. | 00:15:15 | |
| And other formats. So that's that's what we do in a nutshell. | 00:15:17 | |
| Interesting statistic for every dollar that's invested in the EDC. | 00:15:22 | |
| Equates to about $300.00 in economic. | 00:15:26 | |
| Opportunity in the state and that comes through direct. | 00:15:30 | |
| Indirect and induced jobs and the revenues that come from those. | 00:15:33 | |
| Some of our supporters are board members. You're familiar with some of these companies, great Utah County companies, but also | 00:15:38 | |
| companies throughout the entire state. We're a statewide economic development organization. | 00:15:45 | |
| And plenty of city and county members. | 00:15:54 | |
| Supporting us as well, I want to give you just a quick overview of what we accomplished. | 00:15:58 | |
| Last year. | 00:16:03 | |
| And in our process of recruiting businesses, we have at any given time about 100 companies that were actively. | 00:16:05 | |
| Working with you to expand or to come to Utah. | 00:16:12 | |
| Primarily, we're seeing a lot of manufacturing opportunities given what's happened in the economy over the. | 00:16:15 | |
| Past three or four years, but we work across all sectors, so life science companies advanced. | 00:16:20 | |
| Manufacturing, fintech, aerospace and defense life science companies. | 00:16:25 | |
| And a lot of energy companies lately as well. | 00:16:30 | |
| We do proactive outreach, but we also handle a lot of inbound. | 00:16:32 | |
| Requests to come into the state we work hand in glove with the Governor's Office of Economic opportunity there a. | 00:16:37 | |
| A member of ours. | 00:16:43 | |
| And we track our performance through job creation. | 00:16:45 | |
| Capital investment that's spent in the state or announced. | 00:16:49 | |
| Through project wins and then through square footage. | 00:16:53 | |
| Absorb the real estate and last year. | 00:16:55 | |
| We were involved with about 8800 jobs that were that were created. | 00:16:58 | |
| We had about 30 wins and notably 9 / 9 billion dollars in CapEx capital expenditure was announced. | 00:17:04 | |
| A couple of years now that we've seen. | 00:17:12 | |
| Just tremendous amount of capital expenditure now so that comes through utilities the. | 00:17:15 | |
| Road construction, facility development, all these things that help to. | 00:17:20 | |
| Create a great business environment. | 00:17:25 | |
| These are some of the companies that we worked with last year. | 00:17:27 | |
| Again, across industries and sectors. | 00:17:30 | |
| And we have investor engagement and strategy program which. | 00:17:34 | |
| Greg helps to lead. | 00:17:39 | |
| He's been busy rolling out a new model because we recognize the economic development in the state has really changed significantly | 00:17:41 | |
| over the past five to 10 years. It used to be. | 00:17:45 | |
| Of Utah wanted just raw job growth bring the jobs in. | 00:17:50 | |
| As we've grown, we see, you know, a pressure or attention between quality life and. | 00:17:54 | |
| And job creation. | 00:17:58 | |
| Through infrastructure, traffic, etc. All things that you know about very well as. | 00:18:00 | |
| The fastest growing micropolitan in the country as I've read. | 00:18:05 | |
| So we want to be more intentional about how we do business and the companies that we're bringing in. So that's part of. | 00:18:09 | |
| Sort of my. | 00:18:15 | |
| Mission and coming in a couple years ago and taking over was. | 00:18:17 | |
| Let's be thoughtful. Let's be intentional. | 00:18:20 | |
| Let's provide research. | 00:18:22 | |
| And help help the decision makers make the right informed decisions. We don't. | 00:18:24 | |
| Put our finger on the scale of who comes into the state or where they go. | 00:18:29 | |
| We're sort of a neutral party in that way. | 00:18:33 | |
| And it's up to the communities decide who they want to come in. | 00:18:36 | |
| And so we just helped to facilitate it and we provide. | 00:18:39 | |
| Research on that. There's an example of some of the research we do. We do a lot of community. | 00:18:42 | |
| Profile and assessment work where we'll help a community understand what their strengths and weaknesses are. The economic data | 00:18:47 | |
| show about their their area. | 00:18:52 | |
| We're also really actively involved now with retail companies that that's not an incentivized. | 00:18:57 | |
| Industry by the state, but it is obviously key to creating job revenues. So we're becoming more active in that space. | 00:19:04 | |
| Part of what we do, part of our. | 00:19:10 | |
| Sort of a package that you get as a member with EDC Utah. | 00:19:13 | |
| Is access to. | 00:19:16 | |
| Retail software program. | 00:19:18 | |
| At a discounted rate. | 00:19:20 | |
| And that oftentimes covers the cost of the membership with us. | 00:19:22 | |
| But there's a lot more that's involved with it. | 00:19:25 | |
| The growth journey. | 00:19:30 | |
| Wanted to share a few data points. I'll go quickly through this given you all have lived this experience, but Utah as a whole is | 00:19:31 | |
| one of the fastest growing states in the country. | 00:19:36 | |
| We've seen a lot of. | 00:19:41 | |
| Net and migration For the first time in decades, the number of. | 00:19:42 | |
| The increase in population has been more from people moving into the state than natural births. | 00:19:47 | |
| And that's, you know, starting to track the national trend a little bit more. | 00:19:53 | |
| Were forecast to double our population by 2065. We're still the youngest state. | 00:19:59 | |
| In the country at average of 32 years versus the national. | 00:20:03 | |
| Average of 39. | 00:20:07 | |
| We have great. | 00:20:09 | |
| Job growth, unemployment is low, labor force participation is high, and notably we have. | 00:20:11 | |
| One of the most diverse economies in the country, so. | 00:20:17 | |
| L&L Utah is in a situation where. | 00:20:21 | |
| We simply are going to continue to grow because it's a great place for people to live, work, play, do business. | 00:20:24 | |
| So it's in our view a matter of shaping that growth. | 00:20:30 | |
| Rather than looking at. | 00:20:34 | |
| Sort of stopping it because it inevitably is going to happen and we try to help inform. | 00:20:35 | |
| Stakeholders on the impacts of growth and help to meet their goals by attracting the right type of companies to their communities. | 00:20:41 | |
| This was just an interesting sort of mean that we saw recently. You all know about Nimbus, but now that's the banana environment | 00:20:49 | |
| of the. | 00:20:53 | |
| Build absolutely nothing, anywhere near anything. | 00:20:58 | |
| Crowd, which I understand nobody wants traffic congestion and the issues that come with growth. | 00:21:00 | |
| But at the same time. | 00:21:05 | |
| We don't want to pull back from what's really helped us become the best economy in the country. We want to do it more | 00:21:07 | |
| thoughtfully. | 00:21:10 | |
| And there's some things that we're doing, as I mentioned, being more thoughtful, but also. | 00:21:14 | |
| Looking at offering services that meet every community where they are, it's not just a. | 00:21:18 | |
| One-size-fits-all approach if. | 00:21:23 | |
| It's a built out community. | 00:21:25 | |
| Or if it's an emergent community, you want different things. | 00:21:27 | |
| So what you get with investment in East Utah is what you want from it. | 00:21:31 | |
| I mentioned you've been a member with us since 2017. | 00:21:35 | |
| Membership for Vineyard is $3200 a year. | 00:21:39 | |
| We have a model that works based on population and based on the offering that you're interested in. | 00:21:43 | |
| So to give you a sense of where your peers are. | 00:21:49 | |
| We have some communities that are investing over $100,000. | 00:21:54 | |
| And then kind of the lowest number is 1000 for our really rural small communities. | 00:21:58 | |
| So it's we think very reasonably priced our pricing structure. | 00:22:04 | |
| Is consistent. It's a formula, so there is no overpaying. It's all consistent. No community pays. | 00:22:08 | |
| Much more or less, it's a. It's a model that you get to choose. | 00:22:16 | |
| But you're priced fairly and transparently. | 00:22:20 | |
| We do a lot with grant support. That's another. | 00:22:23 | |
| Area that we're getting, that we're super involved with, we have a tool that helps to. | 00:22:26 | |
| Identify the right grants for a community, what they're interested in. | 00:22:30 | |
| And how they want to grow and what they need support with. | 00:22:34 | |
| And we're all about showing more value for membership. | 00:22:37 | |
| That's been a focus of mine for a couple years. | 00:22:41 | |
| It's not just you pay in and don't know what you get or you just pay because it's good for everybody. | 00:22:44 | |
| You see the value that that's your money, where it's going and what you're getting for it, so. | 00:22:50 | |
| That was a pretty rapid fire. | 00:22:56 | |
| Preview of what we do there, so love to take any questions that you have. | 00:22:59 | |
| Council, do you have any questions? | 00:23:04 | |
| We love working with you, it's been really great. | 00:23:09 | |
| And we got to meet with Greg just recently and talk about some of our priorities and we'll be setting up meetings with our | 00:23:12 | |
| council. This is Marty. She sits on our economic development, so you guys will get to know her. We have kind of a newer council, | 00:23:18 | |
| so I don't know if you've gotten everybody here. Brett actually just joined us in November. | 00:23:23 | |
| So it's a new start for us, but we're really excited, so. | 00:23:30 | |
| And I guess we've got a couple events coming up. Maybe you want to talk about ICSC. | 00:23:35 | |
| Yeah. So ICSE is, is a major. | 00:23:41 | |
| That's probably the most popular retail conference in the world that's held annually in Las Vegas. | 00:23:44 | |
| We have. | 00:23:51 | |
| 17 or 18 on average communities that come down and. | 00:23:52 | |
| Of they're looking at making connections with retail companies, we have a booth down there that we pay for that. | 00:23:56 | |
| Is part of what the membership goes to. | 00:24:02 | |
| We help to create community profiles for communities that are interested in joining us, so we're helping you. | 00:24:05 | |
| Sell your community. | 00:24:10 | |
| It's two or three day event. | 00:24:12 | |
| Three days, three day event, so we're down there. We hosted dinner as well to help the economic development community from Utah | 00:24:14 | |
| get together. | 00:24:18 | |
| So it's a great opportunity to make connections. | 00:24:21 | |
| As I mentioned with our retail program software, we're able to help communities kind of prep in advance before going down there | 00:24:23 | |
| and look at targets with them and. | 00:24:28 | |
| Facilitate introduction so. | 00:24:32 | |
| Now that's one event that comes up, another one that will be holding on February 13th. | 00:24:34 | |
| Is an Energy Innovations in Utah symposium. | 00:24:39 | |
| University of Utah. | 00:24:42 | |
| Bringing in the Attorney General is going to talk about the regulatory environment in Utah for energy. | 00:24:44 | |
| And we've got a great panel. | 00:24:49 | |
| Of innovative. | 00:24:51 | |
| Alternative energy companies doing business right now in Utah, from geothermal to hydrogen to nuclear. | 00:24:53 | |
| And wind and solar. | 00:24:59 | |
| And we're facilitating discussion. | 00:25:00 | |
| I have 100 folks there and you all are welcome to join if you can make it. | 00:25:02 | |
| That's one, and then we have another. | 00:25:05 | |
| Economic exchange, where we're sharing best practices. | 00:25:07 | |
| And going on a fact finding tour with our peers in South Carolina, Who? | 00:25:11 | |
| Do manufacturing better than any. | 00:25:15 | |
| Any state in the country and we're going to learn some things from them. | 00:25:17 | |
| And then umm. | 00:25:50 | |
| I guess we'll just stay connected on the research and the corporate recruitment and um. | 00:25:52 | |
| You can reach out to us whenever and let us know what's coming up and council, if you don't have any other questions. I have | 00:25:57 | |
| questions. Oh, yeah. OK, go ahead. Jake. What's your relationship with 47G? | 00:26:02 | |
| Did you guys just merge or no? No SO47G is separate so there are to kind of help maybe frame the landscape so you have. | 00:26:08 | |
| Our office which is working across industries, that statewide organization that does this recruitment. | 00:26:17 | |
| 47 G is more of a peer to. | 00:26:23 | |
| Bio Utah, Utah Manufacturers Association Aerospace Aerospace. So they focused on aerospace and defense and it's more of a. | 00:26:26 | |
| Kind of an advocacy group for for that sector. We do work with them. | 00:26:33 | |
| If there's a lead that we. | 00:26:38 | |
| Want to bring in an expert on aerospace policy? We would bring them into part of the recruitment process, but really distinct in | 00:26:40 | |
| our missions. Who's your survey methodologist now that's been doing your stuff? Got somebody on staff? What were they? Director of | 00:26:45 | |
| research. | 00:26:50 | |
| With us about 10 years and. | 00:26:55 | |
| He actually said. | 00:26:57 | |
| Answer your question of 47 G we did do a research project for them. You may have seen there recent profiles. So that was our team | 00:26:59 | |
| that did that on their behalf. | 00:27:02 | |
| That's what I thought I knew, Michael. | 00:27:08 | |
| Thank you. Thanks so much for coming. Yeah, happy to come. Thank you. Appreciate the time and. | 00:27:11 | |
| I look forward to continuing working with you. | 00:27:16 | |
| Thanks so much, Scott. Thanks, Greg. | 00:27:18 | |
| All right, we will go ahead and move on to our next item. | 00:27:21 | |
| Let's see, we've got our property rights training. | 00:27:25 | |
| With our Head attorney, Jordan Collabor from our property rights in Budsman. | 00:27:29 | |
| Hello. | 00:27:34 | |
| Hello. | 00:27:35 | |
| OK, sorry. | 00:27:41 | |
| Up here, hopefully it goes smoothly. | 00:27:42 | |
| Maybe. | 00:28:02 | |
| It is wet and blinking. | 00:28:05 | |
| Did anything pop up in the bottom right when you plugged it in? | 00:28:33 | |
| There we go. | 00:28:40 | |
| We're good, thank you. | 00:28:44 | |
| All right. | 00:28:48 | |
| Thanks for having me. | 00:28:50 | |
| Mayor, I do have to take issue with something you said. This will actually be. I think it might. | 00:28:52 | |
| The most riveting part of our meeting? | 00:28:58 | |
| All right. So yeah, my name is Jordan Collabor. I am the lead attorney in the. | 00:29:02 | |
| Property Rights Ombudsman's office. | 00:29:07 | |
| Umm, uh. | 00:29:10 | |
| OK, thanks for having me SO. | 00:29:18 | |
| Kind of my intent today is to help you guys know what our office is, what we do. We're kind of we're a resource. | 00:29:20 | |
| To local governments. | 00:29:26 | |
| And helping them to understand property rights issues. | 00:29:28 | |
| Primarily in the areas of land use and eminent domain. | 00:29:32 | |
| So helping you understand that and then. | 00:29:36 | |
| However much time you want to take, I don't know, like 30 minutes, are we thinking or? | 00:29:38 | |
| Anyway, however much time you want to take as far as Q&A, right? | 00:29:42 | |
| So the presentation I have really isn't that long and you guys can decide how long you want this. | 00:29:46 | |
| That's why this is so exciting, right? You guys are in church? | 00:29:50 | |
| So here's my information. | 00:29:54 | |
| Here's our phone number. There's three attorneys in the office. I have a slide about. | 00:29:56 | |
| What is an ombudsman right? Everyone always asked that question, so we. | 00:30:01 | |
| Are funded by the government were housed in the Department of Commerce. | 00:30:05 | |
| And we help resolve disputes that property owners have with the government right? | 00:30:09 | |
| We were created back in 1997. We're independent, we're neutral, we don't represent anyone. We act in the role of a mediator, | 00:30:14 | |
| sometimes an arbitrator. | 00:30:18 | |
| And and then just a facilitator and a lot of. | 00:30:22 | |
| Situations so. | 00:30:25 | |
| Here's kind of the four primary areas that we deal in. | 00:30:27 | |
| As it relates to eminent domains, so when the government needs private property for a public use, like a road or some sort of | 00:30:32 | |
| public building. | 00:30:36 | |
| The property owner. | 00:30:40 | |
| Always receives. | 00:30:42 | |
| Information about our office from the condemning entity, whether that's a city. | 00:30:45 | |
| Or UDOT does a lot of condemning right? | 00:30:49 | |
| They have to provide notice to the property owner about our office. | 00:30:53 | |
| Property owner can call us up, ask questions. | 00:30:57 | |
| We can mediate the dispute, we can get the property owner an additional appraisal. | 00:31:00 | |
| If they feel like what the government is offering is. | 00:31:04 | |
| Not reflecting fair market value. | 00:31:08 | |
| And that's something that they don't have to pay for. | 00:31:10 | |
| To provide additional data point, right? | 00:31:13 | |
| I can try, my computer is so huge. | 00:31:18 | |
| Here we go. OK. | 00:31:21 | |
| And then on the end. | 00:31:26 | |
| Side SO. | 00:31:27 | |
| We kind of have two roles with the land use side. We do a lot of educating like this, right? We go around to towns. | 00:31:29 | |
| We present to larger cities. We present the mid sized cities like Vineyard. | 00:31:36 | |
| We present to smaller cities. I think my favorite presentation was in. | 00:31:41 | |
| Tory town. | 00:31:45 | |
| There was three of us there and one of the commissioners gave me mushrooms afterwards. | 00:31:46 | |
| That she had harvested that day but my wife didn't. | 00:31:51 | |
| Unfortunately, but yeah, we go all over. We understand that each of you have different issues that you're dealing with every | 00:31:54 | |
| community. So I actually grew up in Linden City. | 00:31:58 | |
| You guys have grown a little bit since I was living in London City. | 00:32:04 | |
| I remember coming down to the the Marina and there was pretty much a house in the cow in Geneva, right? | 00:32:08 | |
| My grandpa, he worked at Geneva growing up. | 00:32:13 | |
| So yeah, have have. | 00:32:16 | |
| Close ties to this area. | 00:32:18 | |
| Umm, but yeah, so we go all over Utah, we provide education about how to make as it relates to property rights and land use. | 00:32:21 | |
| What we like to say is. | 00:32:28 | |
| Good land use decisions or legal land use decisions. | 00:32:30 | |
| And so we try to help people understand and apply the law appropriately. | 00:32:33 | |
| We can provide advisory opinions so if there's a dispute between a developer. | 00:32:38 | |
| Or a property owner or a resident and the local government over how a land use issue should be decided. A land use application or | 00:32:42 | |
| something like that. | 00:32:46 | |
| Then one or the other party can request an advisory opinion from our office. | 00:32:50 | |
| We get submissions from both sides. | 00:32:54 | |
| And we try to predict what a quote is, saying that it is then used hopefully as a dispute resolution tool to help resolve disputes | 00:32:56 | |
| without the need to go to court if the parties want to do that. | 00:33:01 | |
| I'm getting away from the microphone, sorry. | 00:33:06 | |
| And then the newer role that we have, so Rob Terry, he's our. | 00:33:09 | |
| Statewide land use training coordinator. | 00:33:14 | |
| And that his role was created in her office a few years ago. | 00:33:17 | |
| To help coordinate land use training. | 00:33:21 | |
| Again, so the local governments can hopefully make good land use decisions. | 00:33:23 | |
| Umm, any questions about our office for what we do? | 00:33:27 | |
| And I'm happy. | 00:33:32 | |
| Great question. So an eminent domain? An eminent domain. | 00:33:36 | |
| It has to be issued by the property owner in eminent domain. | 00:33:41 | |
| On the land use side, it can be initiated by other side. | 00:33:44 | |
| Yeah, the most recent opinion I did actually, both parties came to us and said, hey, can you give us an opinion that we want to | 00:33:47 | |
| know what you would say kind of. | 00:33:51 | |
| The city and the and the property owner. | 00:33:55 | |
| Any other questions and I'm happy to take. I don't know if you want. | 00:34:00 | |
| Audience participation unless you decide right? But I'm happy to take questions from whoever. | 00:34:03 | |
| If anyone has any. | 00:34:08 | |
| Council, do you have any questions? | 00:34:10 | |
| Umm, are there any questions from the public? | 00:34:12 | |
| That was riveting and quick so. | 00:34:18 | |
| Well, and and yeah, I mean, if we're done, so I do have, I have to have to take questions if you have specific questions about any | 00:34:21 | |
| of the land use issues, these are some of the common issues that we deal with. | 00:34:26 | |
| Umm, or if you're ready to move on to the next one, you can do that as well. No, I'll just comment that I really, I've attended. | 00:34:32 | |
| A couple land use and of course there through the ULCT, yeah. | 00:34:40 | |
| And property rights, I guess. | 00:34:46 | |
| Property rights and land use, and it's really interesting. | 00:34:48 | |
| What we as a City Council can control or not control and. | 00:34:51 | |
| And you know. | 00:34:56 | |
| When the community might not like something, what the what's legal and not legal? | 00:34:57 | |
| I think there's a lot here that. | 00:35:03 | |
| You probably could take up the rest of our night. | 00:35:05 | |
| And it would be riveting. | 00:35:08 | |
| No, no worries. Yeah. | 00:35:10 | |
| Are there any planning commissioners that had any questions that wanted to come to the microphone? | 00:35:11 | |
| OK, then we can go to the next one. | 00:35:16 | |
| OK. All right. Thanks for having me. | 00:35:20 | |
| Awesome. Thank you so much. Thanks for coming and being here. | 00:35:23 | |
| Nobody had any questions about exactions. | 00:35:26 | |
| OK, now tell me what exactions mean. | 00:35:30 | |
| That is a great question. | 00:35:35 | |
| I have a few slides on that if you want to talk about it. Umm. | 00:35:37 | |
| So in. | 00:35:40 | |
| Thought I had some. There they are. | 00:35:42 | |
| What is an exact great question, right? So anytime you're requiring a developer to contribute something to the city, they're going | 00:35:43 | |
| to build it and ultimately you're going to own and operate and maintain it. | 00:35:48 | |
| That's an exact. | 00:35:54 | |
| Because they're you're taking property from the developer. | 00:35:56 | |
| That's appropriate, right? We're talking about dedications. We're talking about construction of. | 00:36:01 | |
| Public improvements and then impact fees. So impact fees is a form of exaction, right? | 00:36:05 | |
| Essentially, in layman's terms, it's OK to do that to the extent that you're only offsetting the impact of the proposed | 00:36:12 | |
| development. | 00:36:16 | |
| So the development needs roads, obviously, right? So you can require them to construct internal roads. | 00:36:19 | |
| They need water and sewer and all the utilities and things like that. | 00:36:24 | |
| Umm, the the thing to keep in mind? | 00:36:28 | |
| When we're talking about exactions is you can only require them toss at their own impacts and know more because when you start | 00:36:30 | |
| requiring them to offset more than their own impacts. | 00:36:34 | |
| That's when you start getting into the constitutional takings realm, right? | 00:36:38 | |
| So if the developments coming through. | 00:36:42 | |
| And you know they proposed something that meets your codes. | 00:36:44 | |
| Provides all the internal rows. It provides access and connectivity. | 00:36:48 | |
| But on your master plan you have. | 00:36:53 | |
| A5 lane arterial going through the area right? | 00:36:56 | |
| If you were to require them to construct that entire Rd. | 00:37:01 | |
| That would be. | 00:37:05 | |
| Probably a taking a private property without compensation, right? | 00:37:06 | |
| And that's why we have impact fees and that's why we negotiate things, right? And there's other, so you can, you can require those | 00:37:10 | |
| things, but you just have to find other funding sources. | 00:37:15 | |
| To pay for them. | 00:37:20 | |
| So it's just important to recognize that when you're imposing exactions. | 00:37:21 | |
| Even if your local ordinance says you can do something, it doesn't necessarily mean that the constitution allows you to do it in | 00:37:25 | |
| certain cases. So. | 00:37:28 | |
| Just some red flags to look for when you're talking about. | 00:37:32 | |
| Low or you know, system improvements versus project improvements and things like that. That makes sense. So all right, go back to | 00:37:35 | |
| your list, OK? | 00:37:39 | |
| I didn't know about that one. | 00:37:44 | |
| I mean, I knew, I just didn't know that. | 00:37:45 | |
| Yeah, where you're the City Council and I was talking with Morgan, It sounds like you've delegated a lot of your. | 00:37:52 | |
| Administrative decision making. | 00:37:58 | |
| State law required you to delegate the subdivisions, right? | 00:38:01 | |
| But then conditional use permits other administrative decisions where you're not setting policy, but you're just applying policy | 00:38:05 | |
| to certain applications. | 00:38:09 | |
| Umm, that that's kind of a basic principle that we'd like to talk about in land use, right, Is making sure. | 00:38:13 | |
| That you understand. | 00:38:19 | |
| What type of a decision you're making, whether that's legislative or administrative? | 00:38:20 | |
| Because the legal principles are different, obviously. | 00:38:24 | |
| Essentially, you have a lot of discretion. | 00:38:28 | |
| When you're making legislative decisions on what you impose or whether or not you say yes or no to a question. | 00:38:30 | |
| But when you get into administrative decision making. | 00:38:36 | |
| It's more check the boxes, make sure everything complies, and if you're trying to make policy in that realm, you're probably going | 00:38:39 | |
| to violate someone's property rights. I think a common question is the short term rentals and Adus. Would you mean going over | 00:38:44 | |
| that? | 00:38:48 | |
| Do you have a lot of short term? Well, so Adus is a big issue right now, right? | 00:38:55 | |
| Are you guys having? | 00:39:00 | |
| Without getting too specific and keeping it general, what are your concerns and questions about abuse? I think people, I think | 00:39:01 | |
| sometimes people don't understand what this state laws are versus what cities have power over and what cities can regulate well. | 00:39:08 | |
| And I think we have probably a couple different things too, Marty, if I can add to it. | 00:39:14 | |
| Adu's I think we probably have. | 00:39:20 | |
| Pretty good laws that the state probably looks to and so our. | 00:39:23 | |
| Questions. Probably people don't know how we're allowed to enforce or what we're allowed to do with short term rentals and they | 00:39:30 | |
| don't know what. A lot of people don't know the difference between AD us short term rentals and then like Airbnbs. | 00:39:37 | |
| And so that's a little bit confusing. OK, let's see if we can walk through that right. So. | 00:39:44 | |
| An Adu essentially. So we would like to make the distinction between internal accessory dwelling units and external accessory | 00:39:49 | |
| dwelling units where the state has stepped in and said. | 00:39:55 | |
| Local governments you need to provide. | 00:40:00 | |
| Or allow for internal accessory accessory dwelling units. | 00:40:03 | |
| And all, but I think it's 25%, right, You can designate about 25% of your residential area. | 00:40:07 | |
| Unless you're Provo or Salt Lake with the with the universities right? | 00:40:12 | |
| And I guess Orem. | 00:40:17 | |
| What's that? | 00:40:20 | |
| University, so you have the West campus here, right? Well, we have university owned property, right? We have UVU's, but they | 00:40:21 | |
| didn't they didn't do it by main campus 7% I wish. | 00:40:28 | |
| We don't, we don't fit within the statutory definition. You've already laid into that one. It may change as you view expands, OK. | 00:40:37 | |
| They have a lot of property in Vineyard. | 00:40:48 | |
| Yeah, right now it's their athletics facility. | 00:40:51 | |
| I think as some of the educational facilities grow into the city that that will change. Interesting. And you know, perhaps in our | 00:40:54 | |
| legislative work we could. | 00:40:59 | |
| Have that definition modified? We tried to get it by proximity because we the main campuses across the street from us. | 00:41:04 | |
| Significant student population that resides in the city and so a lot of the occupancy issues. | 00:41:12 | |
| OK, you know, we see a lot of the same. | 00:41:18 | |
| Impacts that the university cities experience. Interesting. OK. | 00:41:21 | |
| Yeah. And so as far as internal Adus go, you have to follow the state standards, right? | 00:41:26 | |
| And essentially if they can meet requirements related to parking and dimensions and building code issues, then most. | 00:41:31 | |
| People would be allowed to have an accessory dwelling unit. | 00:41:38 | |
| I guess the saving grace you can say whether you like or don't like it use right is that the primary 1 you can require that it be | 00:41:42 | |
| owner occupied, right? | 00:41:46 | |
| External Adus is still totally up to you guys. | 00:41:51 | |
| As far as whether or not you allow those where you allow them, how do you how you allow them? So we're talking about detached. | 00:41:54 | |
| Buildings on the same lot, right? Or if you want to rent those out. | 00:42:00 | |
| You can prohibit those throughout the city. | 00:42:04 | |
| You can allow them throughout the city. | 00:42:06 | |
| It's really up to you guys on that. And then also short term rentals. So short term rentals we're talking about. | 00:42:08 | |
| You know, properties that people reside in for 30 days or less typically. | 00:42:15 | |
| Right, and you want to define that you guys have a definition of what a short term rental is in your local code. | 00:42:19 | |
| It's important to make sure you do right. | 00:42:25 | |
| And. But if you do, then really. | 00:42:29 | |
| It's up to you how you allow those and prohibit those. | 00:42:31 | |
| To your point earlier, right, like state law right now says that you can't enforce on a short term rental simply based upon. | 00:42:36 | |
| A listing. | 00:42:43 | |
| On like Airbnb or VRBO? | 00:42:45 | |
| Those are short term rentals. | 00:42:47 | |
| I saw that there's a bill that might. | 00:42:49 | |
| Impact that a little bit, right? Everything's just up in the air right now. | 00:42:51 | |
| Until the end, until the middle of March, we don't know what the rule. | 00:42:55 | |
| Guys, Yeah. | 00:42:58 | |
| Which and and there's always talk, right? How do we address short term rentals? To what extent should the state get involved? | 00:43:00 | |
| That's just an ongoing conversation, but as things currently stand. | 00:43:07 | |
| That's largely left to you guys. How do you allow? | 00:43:11 | |
| Any other questions from my understand so sorry guys I'm sure I'll stick it me asking questions but from my understanding with | 00:43:14 | |
| Adus we used to be allowed to have. | 00:43:20 | |
| Requirements to have one parking spot but I. | 00:43:25 | |
| Somehow I recall that's changed. | 00:43:28 | |
| Yes, the state does identify that you can. | 00:43:33 | |
| You can still. Yes you can, but they set a limit on how much. | 00:43:37 | |
| You how much additional parking require? Yeah. What is that limit? | 00:43:42 | |
| I think is the one it is. It was reduced. | 00:43:48 | |
| But I think I saw that. | 00:43:51 | |
| Running around up there right now too so but can't you then set the house limit and the Adu limit? | 00:43:52 | |
| By the house limit, you mean how much parking is for the house and one for Adu? As of now, yeah. I mean you can set how many | 00:44:00 | |
| parking spaces you have. There is a bill that was just introduced. | 00:44:05 | |
| That may affect that as well. Yeah, I'm glad council members of One Days. | 00:44:12 | |
| Raise this issue because it's an area of law where there's a lot of wrinkles. Yeah, and, and. | 00:44:19 | |
| It also was an area of love that is changing quickly. | 00:44:24 | |
| Because I recall that we changed, we were forced to change something within our parking restrictions. So if we're allowed to have | 00:44:29 | |
| that, I think it benefits the community. | 00:44:33 | |
| I would recommend that. | 00:44:37 | |
| This be taken up periodically by the council to make sure our ordinances are up to date and. | 00:44:38 | |
| I would probably recommend this year that we wait until after legislative session and do it during that window between. | 00:44:44 | |
| March and May when the new changes come into effect because I think the bill that. | 00:44:50 | |
| Is currently being proposed. Has a lot of traction. | 00:44:55 | |
| And we're going to see some changes in this area. Yeah, it'll change it. | 00:44:58 | |
| Could we get that written down somewhere that we have that on our agenda? It's on our bill tracker. Oh, do you mean to evaluate | 00:45:02 | |
| it? Let's make sure we do that. | 00:45:07 | |
| Yeah, we are always evaluating parking here in the Vineyard. We never stop talking about it, so. | 00:45:12 | |
| In fact, we're talking about it tonight. Another exciting land use topic. Yes. | 00:45:19 | |
| We're always trying to get them to last. I have more. | 00:45:23 | |
| OK, I will stop. | 00:45:27 | |
| But maybe I'll call you later. Yeah, please do. | 00:45:28 | |
| This is great. No, thank you so much. All right. And then I did send I sent the slides to Madison. So if she wants to distribute | 00:45:32 | |
| those and like say call me if you have any questions. Thanks for having me guys. That's perfect. Thank you so much. Thanks for | 00:45:37 | |
| being here. | 00:45:41 | |
| All right, I'm going to make a small um. | 00:45:47 | |
| Agenda adjustment. I'm going to go ahead and move to appointment and removals. | 00:45:50 | |
| So, uh. | 00:45:54 | |
| Council member Holdaway had emailed me looking for me to send names. | 00:45:57 | |
| A couple weeks in advance so he could do some. | 00:46:01 | |
| Reviews of the appointments. | 00:46:05 | |
| We weren't able to get those appointments until just recently and so I was going to put them to February 12th, but some were short | 00:46:07 | |
| term and we needed to get them going. | 00:46:11 | |
| Since you guys all know David Pierce, I. | 00:46:16 | |
| Allowed for the Planning Commission to go ahead and move forward with my appointment on that one that you guys could review and | 00:46:19 | |
| then our Youth council Co advisor appointment. | 00:46:25 | |
| They stepped down and we had those applications running already and Alexa Datsun, if you guys remember her, was our youth mayor | 00:46:31 | |
| and she is back from college and applied. So we are really excited. | 00:46:38 | |
| For that opportunity so. | 00:46:46 | |
| I'm just going to do them in order. I'll start with Planning Commission. | 00:46:48 | |
| And I will have my appointment is my recommendation is David Pierce. | 00:46:52 | |
| And what I'm going to do is test if you want to come in up and just kind of give an intro and then David, you can say a few words. | 00:46:57 | |
| That would be great. | 00:47:06 | |
| Yeah, I, I don't know if I have a, a lot to say, but David has been a great member of the public so far. He's come to a lot of our | 00:47:14 | |
| Planning Commission meetings, always has great comments and feedback. | 00:47:19 | |
| He submitted his resume a while ago. | 00:47:24 | |
| Explaining his experience working in kind of the civic field before, I believe, being a planning commissioner in South Salt Lake. | 00:47:26 | |
| In Salt Lake County, and so he has a lot of experience in this field and so we're looking for. | 00:47:32 | |
| People that, you know, have that kind of experience and can bring that to the table as we deal with, you know, a lot more | 00:47:37 | |
| applications of development going on in the Utah City development. So. | 00:47:41 | |
| They would say a few words. | 00:47:46 | |
| Thank you. I'm not quite sure what to say other than. | 00:47:55 | |
| New words I'm. | 00:47:58 | |
| I'm open for a question. | 00:48:01 | |
| I appreciate the opportunity to have the chance to participate in the Planning Commission. | 00:48:03 | |
| Work and efforts. | 00:48:09 | |
| I'm excited about that opportunity. | 00:48:11 | |
| I think. | 00:48:16 | |
| That you all know. | 00:48:17 | |
| The packs that I have for Vidyard City. | 00:48:19 | |
| Uh, this is my home. | 00:48:22 | |
| This is the community. | 00:48:27 | |
| That my wife and I bought into when we bought our home. | 00:48:31 | |
| And that's what you do when you buy a home. | 00:48:36 | |
| You buy into a community. | 00:48:40 | |
| This community. | 00:48:44 | |
| Has been. | 00:48:48 | |
| One of the most exciting communities we've been because of the potential. | 00:48:49 | |
| Because of what's happened. | 00:48:54 | |
| Because of the priorities. | 00:48:56 | |
| And because of what we look forward to in the future. | 00:48:59 | |
| Thank you. Well, I'm really grateful since the day you guys got here, I feel like you just showed up at a big volunteer activity | 00:49:04 | |
| where we were cleaning the beach and that's the first time I got to meet you. Was your. | 00:49:09 | |
| Volunteerism and dedication to the community that you bought into. | 00:49:15 | |
| And then your service in the community on communities that care and your dedication to what we've been doing as a community and | 00:49:19 | |
| bringing people together has been really incredible and taking the classes and going through. | 00:49:25 | |
| Learning all about all of the systems. | 00:49:32 | |
| In our community is really meaningful and having that kind of knowledge that you can build upon, especially when going into zoning | 00:49:35 | |
| and helping make sure that we're doing it right, I think is. | 00:49:40 | |
| Really critical for our community. So thank you. And with that, I guess I need a motion. | 00:49:46 | |
| For my recommendation. | 00:49:53 | |
| Yes, I would just like to. I know I'm a process guy, but I found out about David last night. | 00:50:02 | |
| And I didn't get the T. | 00:50:09 | |
| Two weeks that I'd asked to kind of get to know, and I understand it's that, but. | 00:50:10 | |
| In the future, it's consent and an interview. | 00:50:14 | |
| So that we can get to know there's nothing personal. | 00:50:18 | |
| It's and a lot of times it's not me interviewing it, but. | 00:50:22 | |
| Hey can I coordinate that with someone that I agree with and get into the leads and it's just takes time so. | 00:50:25 | |
| Set my hair's appointment. | 00:50:33 | |
| I move to approve the Mayor's appointment to the Planning Commission as presented. | 00:50:35 | |
| Since you have a first place Sarah, can I get a second? | 00:50:40 | |
| 2nd, 2nd. | 00:50:43 | |
| All right. Thank you, Brett. All in favor. | 00:50:44 | |
| Aye, any opposed? | 00:50:47 | |
| All right. Second, we have our youth Council Co advisor appointment. Come on up. | 00:50:49 | |
| I kind of already gave you a brief introduction, and so I'm just going to let you say a few words. We're so excited that you're | 00:50:54 | |
| here with us. | 00:50:58 | |
| Yeah, I mean, looking around the room, it doesn't seem like City Council meetings are a popular event for 18 year olds. But I'm | 00:51:01 | |
| happy to be here and happy to be. | 00:51:05 | |
| Home. As the mayor mentioned, I'm Alexa Dadson. | 00:51:10 | |
| I'm a sophomore at the University of Southern California studying public policy with an emphasis in law. | 00:51:13 | |
| But I'm back home for a few months, taking a gap semester, and I couldn't be back in Vineyard without having a good reason to keep | 00:51:19 | |
| coming to City Council meetings. So. | 00:51:22 | |
| Found myself an assignment to do and I'm really excited to get started. | 00:51:26 | |
| I feel like I have a little bit of experience on sort of front end of public service doing volunteer work, internships. | 00:51:30 | |
| Working on campaigns, but I'm excited to be on the back end doing a little bit of like mentorship and helping other young people. | 00:51:37 | |
| Kind of trying to figure out what impact do they want to have and how they can serve their city. So yeah, I'm excited to get | 00:51:45 | |
| started. Thank you. And I can't say enough being able to watch you as a youth grow up. | 00:51:50 | |
| And have you? | 00:51:56 | |
| Have a desire to create things in the community and go out and start projects and then execute on them. | 00:51:58 | |
| Was phenomenal and so to have you as a mentor for our youth to be able to. | 00:52:04 | |
| Follow you in that pathway is such an exciting opportunity for our community. That is, you are the future leader of our community | 00:52:09 | |
| and now you're back mentoring new future leaders. It's amazing. | 00:52:15 | |
| OK, with that, I just need a recommendation, I mean approval For my recommendation, I move to approve the mayor's appointment of | 00:52:21 | |
| Vineyard use Council code visor. | 00:52:25 | |
| Alexa Dodson, thank you. Can I get a second? | 00:52:30 | |
| Second. Second by Sarah. All in favor. | 00:52:34 | |
| Aye. All right. Thank you. | 00:52:37 | |
| All right. I'm going to open it up to public comment. This is for anything that you guys would like to address the council that's | 00:52:40 | |
| not on the agenda. | 00:52:44 | |
| And Pam will set a timer of two minutes. | 00:52:48 | |
| And can you raise your hand before we move on? Pam did, were you going to do a swearing in of David today or is that at the | 00:52:52 | |
| Planning Commission meeting? | 00:52:55 | |
| Did we need to swear in? | 00:52:59 | |
| Both of them. | 00:53:02 | |
| Actually, it'd be great. Let's go ahead and do the swearing in, yeah, And then we can get a picture. It'd be lovely. | 00:53:04 | |
| Thanks for the reminder, Jamie. | 00:53:19 | |
| Yeah. | 00:53:21 | |
| Okay. | 00:53:27 | |
| There's your right hand. And repeat after me. Aye, aye. | 00:53:28 | |
| David Norman Pierce. | 00:53:33 | |
| Having been appointed to the Vineyard Planning Commission. Having been appointed to the Vineyard Planning Commission, do solemnly | 00:53:34 | |
| swear, Do solemnly swear that I will support, obey, and defend. That I will support, obey and defend the Constitution of the | 00:53:40 | |
| United States, the Constitution of the United States, and the Constitution of the State of Utah and the Constitution of the State | 00:53:46 | |
| of Utah. And that I will discharge the duties of my office, and I will discharge. | 00:53:53 | |
| Discharge the duties of my office with fidelity. Congratulations. | 00:53:59 | |
| Hey, they want a picture. | 00:54:05 | |
| And we have Jenny pictures. | 00:54:21 | |
| Yeah. | 00:54:35 | |
| Thank you. | 00:54:50 | |
| David. | 00:54:52 | |
| All right, now we're back to public comments. Raise your hand if you think you're going to speak. | 00:55:04 | |
| All right, come on up. | 00:55:09 | |
| Well, good on Alexa and David. | 00:55:22 | |
| And they'll do a fine job. | 00:55:25 | |
| I'm really impressed with Alexa. Young girl interested in public. | 00:55:27 | |
| Affairs. | 00:55:32 | |
| Thank you. | 00:55:33 | |
| I watched the ATC active transportation. | 00:55:35 | |
| Meeting last. I watched it today. I wasn't able to watch it last night. | 00:55:38 | |
| Alyssa Diane Alyssa had an interesting presentation. | 00:55:43 | |
| I agreed with some of it and some I did not agree with. | 00:55:47 | |
| I do agree with her stating that medium density is good. | 00:55:51 | |
| Is it her best? | 00:55:56 | |
| What she thought would be best. | 00:55:57 | |
| And I just want to relate the personal experience. | 00:55:59 | |
| My mother's family in Sacramento, early 1900s. | 00:56:03 | |
| They built a nice big home. | 00:56:08 | |
| Upstairs, 2 flats underneath. | 00:56:11 | |
| Big garage in the back. | 00:56:14 | |
| They had a cooperage. | 00:56:16 | |
| My great grandfather built barrels. | 00:56:18 | |
| Home based business. | 00:56:21 | |
| She advocates for local businesses. I think that's a nice idea. | 00:56:24 | |
| But you have to have room to have a local based business. I know you have your basement. | 00:56:29 | |
| For your kitchen. | 00:56:34 | |
| You have room. | 00:56:35 | |
| There are not faces enough for people to have local based business in their homes. | 00:56:37 | |
| And storefronts here the rental. | 00:56:43 | |
| Leasing option is pretty, you know. | 00:56:46 | |
| Difficult. | 00:56:50 | |
| So. | 00:56:51 | |
| In some ways I agree, some ways I don't I. | 00:56:52 | |
| Prefer medium density. | 00:56:55 | |
| And then? | 00:56:58 | |
| As going on with the active transportation they were talking about wayfinding. | 00:56:59 | |
| They show the signs. | 00:57:04 | |
| I like to option number six, but I like it with the yellow sun. | 00:57:06 | |
| And I think you should require that Utah City has the same wayfinding signs as the rest of the year. Thank you. | 00:57:10 | |
| Yeah, all right. Any other comments? | 00:57:17 | |
| OK. Karen, is that you coming up? OK. | 00:57:22 | |
| Karen Cornelius Fellows resident. | 00:57:33 | |
| I shared a little bit with Sarah today about my concerns about. | 00:57:35 | |
| Our City Hall or whatever you want to call it, because the name changed today. | 00:57:40 | |
| And I think that was kind of tricky because I think. | 00:57:45 | |
| Perhaps residents reading? | 00:57:47 | |
| Today's agenda may not have known. | 00:57:49 | |
| That what was on the agenda tonight was the same City Hall that we've been talking about for months. I think that was not a real | 00:57:52 | |
| fair. | 00:57:55 | |
| Assumption to. | 00:57:59 | |
| Assume that we would all understand that's what it was. | 00:58:01 | |
| But I feel like. | 00:58:05 | |
| We are building backwards. | 00:58:07 | |
| And we were promised all of this retail and all of this commercial in Utah City. | 00:58:10 | |
| Which we all know would be a tax base that we heard are. | 00:58:15 | |
| Redevelopment. | 00:58:19 | |
| Agency Chair, talk about today. | 00:58:21 | |
| We need that tax base. I don't know how we can commit. | 00:58:23 | |
| To building something like that. | 00:58:27 | |
| When the four years out, we're hoping Huntsman will bring in the business. | 00:58:29 | |
| And the related businesses to make that payment. | 00:58:33 | |
| That is not common sense. None of us run our households that way. | 00:58:37 | |
| And I think there are very few businesses that run their businesses that way. | 00:58:42 | |
| We need to know where we are before we commit. | 00:58:46 | |
| We can't make a blanket commitment when we don't have. | 00:58:51 | |
| An idea of where we are. | 00:58:55 | |
| I, as a taxpayer, don't even know where we are today. | 00:58:57 | |
| With our annual sales tax income. | 00:59:01 | |
| I don't know what we could afford at this point. | 00:59:04 | |
| On that, and I appreciate it, Sarah letting me talk. | 00:59:06 | |
| It was online, but I still appreciated that. | 00:59:10 | |
| We need, excuse me, we need to be able to communicate these things. They're important. | 00:59:13 | |
| And. | 00:59:18 | |
| I have lived in California and I have seen many cities. | 00:59:19 | |
| Who have filed bankruptcy. | 00:59:24 | |
| For irresponsible actions like this. | 00:59:26 | |
| And I would hate to see that happen here. | 00:59:29 | |
| My neighborhood. | 00:59:32 | |
| We have all probably built our last home. | 00:59:34 | |
| And for us to find that our property values go down. | 00:59:36 | |
| Because others being built as rentals. | 00:59:40 | |
| That's going to become Rental City USA. | 00:59:43 | |
| My other question about that is. | 00:59:47 | |
| I talked to the mayor earlier in the year, last year. | 00:59:50 | |
| About the importance of public safety impact fees. | 00:59:53 | |
| And I feel like we will have a lot of public. | 00:59:58 | |
| Public safety issues in that neighborhood. | 01:00:01 | |
| But how much? | 01:00:04 | |
| Are developers paying in public safety impact fees over there to offset the cost that we the taxpayers? | 01:00:06 | |
| Have already had an increase for. | 01:00:14 | |
| These are legitimate concerns. | 01:00:17 | |
| They are not things where I'm. | 01:00:20 | |
| Picking apart anyone? | 01:00:22 | |
| But this is good sound business. | 01:00:24 | |
| And like I said. | 01:00:28 | |
| I have lived close to two cities that filed bankruptcy in California. It's not pretty. It's not pleasant. | 01:00:29 | |
| Let's be smart. Thanks. | 01:00:35 | |
| Thanks, Karen. I really appreciate your comment and I feel like there's some things that we can bring to the table that will help | 01:00:38 | |
| clarify some of the comments that you had and some questions. | 01:00:42 | |
| And Daria, I'll have to watch that. | 01:00:46 | |
| Present the presenter that they brought in and learn a little bit more about who presented to us. | 01:00:49 | |
| Thanks for your comments. | 01:00:53 | |
| I'm going to go ahead and move to mayor and council member reports, and I'm going to start with Sarah. | 01:00:55 | |
| Um, so. | 01:01:04 | |
| So this afternoon, Marty, Marty let me know that I was. | 01:01:06 | |
| Supposed to report on. | 01:01:10 | |
| The legislative. | 01:01:12 | |
| Bills that you tell. | 01:01:15 | |
| League of Cities and Towns. | 01:01:16 | |
| Is this was my first ever. | 01:01:18 | |
| To to listen in on the legislative process and the bills that are being presented. | 01:01:22 | |
| So it was very interesting and again, learning. | 01:01:27 | |
| From or drinking from a firehose. So. So there's a lot there with me. | 01:01:30 | |
| And I didn't have time to run home and grab my notes before I got here. | 01:01:35 | |
| But there were a couple of bills. I'll I'll tell you the bills that they are. | 01:01:40 | |
| That they are looking at right now. | 01:01:44 | |
| There's 2 water bills. | 01:01:47 | |
| And I don't. I'll get better at this. | 01:01:51 | |
| Give me a couple weeks. That's OK. Mostly, Mostly what would be good because we can post them as if you have the numbers, read the | 01:01:55 | |
| numbers and then people can pull them up and but we can watch them too as a council. | 01:02:01 | |
| So, and there's this really is the time for for feedback, for public feedback. | 01:02:08 | |
| They wanted our input on how we feel about these bills and what we see and. | 01:02:14 | |
| What could be better? What could be written better? | 01:02:19 | |
| And so. | 01:02:22 | |
| Anyway, there's a lot of interesting things coming to the table. | 01:02:24 | |
| One in particular was the mayor recall election. | 01:02:28 | |
| It wasn't actually received very well. | 01:02:31 | |
| I've it seemed like. | 01:02:34 | |
| If that was something that people want to move forward, it would need to include all elected officials. | 01:02:37 | |
| Which I don't necessarily think is a bad idea. | 01:02:43 | |
| There were voting revisions, amendments to election law. | 01:02:47 | |
| Municipal governance modifications. | 01:02:52 | |
| Zoning Amendments. Homelessness revisions. | 01:02:55 | |
| It, yeah, there's a lot, there's a lot of people up there that are working to protect your rights. | 01:02:58 | |
| And introduce things that we maybe haven't thought of before. So really would be beneficial if you guys have anything that's. | 01:03:04 | |
| That's important to you to let us know and we can take it back to the league. | 01:03:12 | |
| Because they they are our voice to the legislature. So. | 01:03:15 | |
| Have some money just to do. | 01:03:19 | |
| An update as well on what they're saying so. | 01:03:22 | |
| We did have several of us go up and. | 01:03:25 | |
| They have people from the city go and vote. | 01:03:29 | |
| And uh. | 01:03:32 | |
| The appointments for the city went and voted on the bills and made sure that we represented our city. | 01:03:33 | |
| And what we'll do is actually post some of the numbers. There's a build tracker that they're following and we can post them. And | 01:03:40 | |
| maybe Sarah, you can share it and you can follow along. And if you have any questions, it's a really good opportunity to learn | 01:03:44 | |
| about. | 01:03:48 | |
| What the state is doing and then as a city, how we can get involved together and be part of it. | 01:03:53 | |
| But this will go on throughout the session and Sarah and. | 01:03:58 | |
| Our whole crew will be up there. | 01:04:02 | |
| Monitoring it and watching it and we also are lucky to have staff that are watching the individual bills as well. | 01:04:05 | |
| And So what they do is we'll have a water bill and we have our public works and water people on it. And then from a legislative | 01:04:11 | |
| perspective, we're on it. And so we come together and make sure that those bills are representing what we need in our community. | 01:04:16 | |
| And one of them that the ombudsman talked about was. | 01:04:22 | |
| Maybe there's this new opportunity for how our own code enforcement will start reacting and interacting with short term rentals. | 01:04:28 | |
| And so that might be something that's new and it's interesting, it's been a topic that's coming up in the community. | 01:04:34 | |
| So Sarah, you did a good job for your first time. Stellar. I've been here and watched many people get their first reports and it | 01:04:42 | |
| was incredible. So Marty. | 01:04:46 | |
| OK. | 01:04:51 | |
| And there was a comment from the public that said where were those bills be posted? And there is a bill tracker link. And what we | 01:04:54 | |
| can do is have Sarah posted and so you can follow her. Yeah, please. Thank you. | 01:05:00 | |
| If you just Google the Utah League of Cities and Towns. | 01:05:06 | |
| And build tracker. | 01:05:09 | |
| It's on their website and the way they list it out is they have the bills in in numerical order and then they have a position that | 01:05:11 | |
| the league's taking on each and you can link through it to the legislation. | 01:05:17 | |
| Thank you. That's really helpful. | 01:05:24 | |
| OK, go ahead, Marty. | 01:05:26 | |
| OK, so the school districts update it's. | 01:05:28 | |
| Nothing really changed officially yet. We're still waiting on the to receive the completed financial study. | 01:05:33 | |
| And then we've also been working with Senator Grover. He's working on some legislation that should be made public next week. | 01:05:41 | |
| So that's really important to watch because it could affect. | 01:05:49 | |
| Just details and logistics and administrative. | 01:05:53 | |
| Things for the for the school districts and how we move forward. So it's a pretty. | 01:05:58 | |
| It's a pretty big thing. | 01:06:04 | |
| Also we have. | 01:06:06 | |
| Representative from Vineyard. | 01:06:09 | |
| As a resident, Isaac Hipple is attending the county meetings to help set up the boundaries. | 01:06:11 | |
| For our voting precincts, for our future school board members. And so he's been really great. If you notice, I think he's been | 01:06:17 | |
| trying to post online in those groups. | 01:06:22 | |
| He actually was at a meeting tonight where they would be discussing more detail in detail. | 01:06:26 | |
| The boundaries that they're looking at. | 01:06:32 | |
| Umm, the the other thing was Daria gave a great report for me on the Active Transportation Commission. | 01:06:35 | |
| It was. | 01:06:43 | |
| Definitely, you know, thought provoking. | 01:06:45 | |
| There were some things that I thought were great points and other things that. | 01:06:51 | |
| You know, I wouldn't agree with but. | 01:06:55 | |
| It was great to hear someone else's perspective and. | 01:06:58 | |
| We appreciate her coming. | 01:07:02 | |
| And I think that kind of sums it up. | 01:07:04 | |
| Grocery stores that I mean, Hansen's not coming. | 01:07:06 | |
| And, umm. | 01:07:10 | |
| We're just excited for. | 01:07:11 | |
| Growth and development. | 01:07:13 | |
| Perfect, right? | 01:07:15 | |
| So a few things. | 01:07:18 | |
| Since my last report, I've had some more more training. | 01:07:21 | |
| One of the ones that I really wanted to call out with the. | 01:07:24 | |
| I met with. | 01:07:29 | |
| Josh Daniels earlier. | 01:07:30 | |
| And to learn more about the RDA, and I know RDA is something that a lot of discussion about. | 01:07:32 | |
| And when he was going through it with me, it was at least a third or fourth time. | 01:07:40 | |
| That someone had explained it to me. | 01:07:46 | |
| And there's a lot of complexity in there. | 01:07:48 | |
| So it's something that I think I finally have a handle on. | 01:07:52 | |
| And would love the opportunity if there are people who who have. | 01:07:59 | |
| Questions and want to. | 01:08:03 | |
| Ask me what what my feelings about it are. I'd I'd be happy to have those conversations. | 01:08:06 | |
| And then moving on, I did have. | 01:08:13 | |
| An opportunity earlier to attend the Utah Valley Drug Prevention Coalition Advocacy dinner. | 01:08:16 | |
| Which is really targeted at. | 01:08:25 | |
| The communities that care. | 01:08:27 | |
| Which we have our own staff for that. | 01:08:29 | |
| And. | 01:08:32 | |
| There are a couple of points that really stuck out to me. I mean, a lot of it was about. | 01:08:35 | |
| Do drug prevention and. | 01:08:40 | |
| The the two things that really stuck out to me were making sure that we continue to collect good data. | 01:08:46 | |
| Which we have, we have and there's a, there's a survey that gets conducted that. | 01:08:53 | |
| It helps us to know how we're trending. | 01:08:56 | |
| And they can. | 01:09:01 | |
| Break that down pretty granularly so we can see how Vineyard itself is doing. | 01:09:02 | |
| The other that I thought was. | 01:09:08 | |
| Fascinating and was very new to me. | 01:09:11 | |
| Was just how important and critical having a Public Library is for these efforts. | 01:09:13 | |
| And. | 01:09:21 | |
| The the reasons that they were giving in the in the data show this. | 01:09:22 | |
| Is that? | 01:09:27 | |
| People who struggle with any kind of addiction or are looking for resources, they have a lot more trust in. | 01:09:29 | |
| Public Library facilities and librarians. | 01:09:36 | |
| Than they do in law enforcement. | 01:09:40 | |
| Or even health care. | 01:09:42 | |
| And I mean, that is no slight to our law enforcement because I know that they very much care. | 01:09:44 | |
| But it but it was 1 where it was very clear just how. | 01:09:52 | |
| Critical, that is, to the. | 01:09:57 | |
| Health of. | 01:10:00 | |
| The the youth in our community. | 01:10:01 | |
| And everybody else as well. | 01:10:04 | |
| And then the last one is a little bit more unofficial. I got an unofficial tour of. | 01:10:07 | |
| The construction site of the apartments that are going up and. | 01:10:13 | |
| And and there is there. | 01:10:17 | |
| They're pretty amazing. | 01:10:21 | |
| Umm, they have units that cover a large variety of. | 01:10:22 | |
| Income levels, so the availability of housing that comes with those apartments. | 01:10:29 | |
| Is pretty impressive. | 01:10:34 | |
| They have everything from very small studio apartments up to. | 01:10:37 | |
| 2500 square foot. | 01:10:41 | |
| Apartments. | 01:10:43 | |
| And these are all in those units. | 01:10:45 | |
| So the diversity that we're going to get and the availability of housing is pretty impressive. | 01:10:47 | |
| And the other one that I thought was very interesting that you can't see from the outside is that every single one of them has a | 01:10:52 | |
| courtyard. | 01:10:56 | |
| With dedicated use and only one of them. | 01:10:59 | |
| It allows cars to enter it. Most of them are for. | 01:11:04 | |
| Some kind of recreation or specific purpose? | 01:11:09 | |
| Related to that community. | 01:11:13 | |
| And I and I just wanted to make sure I shared that publicly because that. | 01:11:15 | |
| From the outside they kind of look like just big boxes. | 01:11:19 | |
| And there's a lot more to them than than that. And I thought it was important that everybody here. | 01:11:23 | |
| Exactly what's going on over there? | 01:11:28 | |
| That's great. | 01:11:31 | |
| Just for a quick update on, there's an item that we may be continuing because you want to give an update on where you guys are | 01:11:32 | |
| with the subcommittee. | 01:11:37 | |
| Sure. So. | 01:11:42 | |
| Jake and I were selected for the. | 01:11:44 | |
| Code of Conduct subcommittee we have had. | 01:11:46 | |
| Some interactions on that in starting, some drafting. | 01:11:49 | |
| Of a revised code of conduct. | 01:11:54 | |
| And we have some work session scheduled. | 01:11:56 | |
| With each other, with, with, with Jamie. | 01:11:59 | |
| And we've also seen some citizens reach out that want to participate, so we'll make sure that we include them as well. | 01:12:04 | |
| Perfect. | 01:12:11 | |
| Oh, did you want to add to it or do you want to add that in your report? | 01:12:13 | |
| Jacob Wood wrote one and Zach's I believe. | 01:12:19 | |
| Forget his last name, Stratton. And I was like, great, let's have them be on the group and anyone else, I think any citizen that | 01:12:24 | |
| wants to. | 01:12:28 | |
| Chime in. That's something that they're holding us accountable of, so. | 01:12:32 | |
| It's their city of what they want. | 01:12:37 | |
| Did you have anything else you wanted to report on Jake? | 01:12:40 | |
| Well, actually, I'll just make a quick comment before I turn it over to you. I. | 01:12:43 | |
| Also wanted to say that Brett woke up really early in the morning. | 01:12:48 | |
| And went and sent off the youth to the Capitol for local legislative the local legislative session. | 01:12:52 | |
| Umm to meet the local officials. | 01:13:01 | |
| And then Sarah actually went with them. | 01:13:03 | |
| And Marty's young child was there as well. So it was like a little piece of Marty was there. | 01:13:06 | |
| But it was fun because Sarah got to take them and introduce them to our representatives. And Sarah, I don't know if you wanted to | 01:13:12 | |
| talk a little bit about that. | 01:13:15 | |
| It was it was a rush. She went to many meetings. | 01:13:19 | |
| The youth had a great time. Some of it was probably boring. They watched a lot of debates and heard a lot of policy, and then they | 01:13:23 | |
| also had fun and heard some pretty. | 01:13:27 | |
| Incredible keynote speakers. | 01:13:32 | |
| But and also Brett also went to the Arts Commission and Sarah went to the library and there's so many things that they didn't get | 01:13:35 | |
| to report on tonight. But I have to say I'm just really grateful for the dedication that our council is taking to. | 01:13:42 | |
| Make sure that. | 01:13:51 | |
| Our commission's committees, youth council and our team is having to really move forward and and work on things. So thank you for | 01:13:52 | |
| being there. So you go ahead and let you do your the rest of your report. | 01:13:58 | |
| Umm, I'm good. | 01:14:08 | |
| OK, I am going to go ahead and move us through the agenda and. | 01:14:10 | |
| Let's see, we'll go to. | 01:14:14 | |
| Eric, do you have something this? | 01:14:17 | |
| This month or next month? | 01:14:19 | |
| Next month, OK, Can I go ahead and get a motion on the consent agenda? | 01:14:21 | |
| I thought. | 01:14:28 | |
| All that consent agenda. | 01:14:29 | |
| I know somebody wants to do it. | 01:14:35 | |
| I move to approve the consent items as presented. Thank you. Brett, can I get a second? | 01:14:37 | |
| Second. Second by Sarah. All in favor, aye. | 01:14:43 | |
| All right, We have another appointment. It's the North Utah Valley Animal Service Special District board appointment. This is an | 01:14:46 | |
| internal one and it's just Eric Ellis will be representing us on the on the board if we need a resolution that just. | 01:14:53 | |
| Adopts uh. | 01:15:01 | |
| This appointment as Eric as our representative to go over there and make sure those questions are being answered and things are | 01:15:02 | |
| being taken care of. | 01:15:06 | |
| So I just need a motion. | 01:15:11 | |
| Is this a? | 01:15:14 | |
| A long term appointment as it is. Who was it before and how long is it served? It's always it's usually staff and I usually just | 01:15:16 | |
| have the city managers do it. | 01:15:20 | |
| And then now Eric's here. Who was it before? | 01:15:25 | |
| OK. | 01:15:30 | |
| But I do need a motion I can do. | 01:15:34 | |
| OK, I move to adopt A resolution 2025. | 01:15:36 | |
| Dash 03 appointing Eric Ellis as representative to North. | 01:15:40 | |
| Utah Valley Animal Services special services Special services district. | 01:15:44 | |
| All right, we have a 1st place Sir. Can I get a second? | 01:15:48 | |
| Second, Second by Marty. This is number resolution. | 01:15:51 | |
| And so I'll go and roll call Dave. | 01:15:55 | |
| No, no. | 01:15:57 | |
| Great. | 01:16:00 | |
| All right, I'm Marty. Hi, Sarah. Hi. All right, perfect. This is item. | 01:16:02 | |
| And it looks like we're going to move the code of conduct. I was thinking we would move it to the next agenda. Does that work for | 01:16:08 | |
| timewise timing? | 01:16:12 | |
| I think I think we should be able to make that work. | 01:16:19 | |
| All right. Can I get a motion from you? | 01:16:22 | |
| Do you have any issue with us moving the no? | 01:16:24 | |
| I need to continue the this item to the February 12th. | 01:16:29 | |
| 2025 City Council meeting. OK, first by Brett. Can I get a second? | 01:16:35 | |
| 2nd Thank you, Sarah. | 01:16:39 | |
| All in favor, aye? | 01:16:41 | |
| All right, we'll go ahead and move on to 9.2. That's our. | 01:16:43 | |
| Parking permit program update and cash hands evil. | 01:16:46 | |
| Talk to us about this resolution And this was a continued item forget from January 15. | 01:16:50 | |
| Perfect. I just have a brief presentation here just kind of go over the changes so. | 01:16:56 | |
| Last council meeting you guys requested that we do a town hall meeting with. | 01:17:01 | |
| Just residents that could be affected by this parking program. So last Tuesday. | 01:17:05 | |
| Sarah and I and Jake met with them and had a good in-depth discussion on these changes and got feedback from them, and so I have | 01:17:09 | |
| those changes presented here. | 01:17:13 | |
| Well, this is quickly, this is the current program. We have kind of three programs we have for a 55 plus communities. This does | 01:17:18 | |
| not impact them at all. They will maintain with if, if they have request from the council. | 01:17:24 | |
| To have no parking between 11:00 PM and 6:00. | 01:17:30 | |
| It might be ten. 8:00 PM. I got that one. | 01:17:33 | |
| But there's no permits there, so there's no street parking. | 01:17:35 | |
| But what this does affect is what we're referring to as City Council designated amenity parking. So that's something that you see | 01:17:39 | |
| on 300 W Nearly Rd. | 01:17:43 | |
| Where they have built in parking on either side of the street or both sides of the street. | 01:17:47 | |
| Currently we allow 82 permits and we charge $60.00 that's pro rated monthly. | 01:17:52 | |
| And then the neighborhood permits. | 01:17:57 | |
| So right now, that's the Providence and Springs neighborhoods. | 01:17:59 | |
| We allow one permit per household and that is prorated monthly. | 01:18:01 | |
| So here's the updated program that we're suggesting after this town hall, our meeting that that we have held. | 01:18:05 | |
| And that would be, I'll start with the neighborhood permits. I think we have some members of that neighborhood here. | 01:18:13 | |
| That we met with and got their feedback on. | 01:18:18 | |
| And so one of the suggestions that they made that I thought was a good idea was to bump it up to three per household. And this is | 01:18:21 | |
| in lieu of doing. | 01:18:25 | |
| Visitor parking or the ADA parking permit. | 01:18:29 | |
| That I had initially suggested. | 01:18:32 | |
| This just helps ensure that the residents of that neighborhood have enough parking so they do have visitors to come, but it does | 01:18:35 | |
| prevent people from outside the neighborhood from buying those visitor passes and parking in the neighborhood. | 01:18:40 | |
| We are suggesting a $20 per permit. | 01:18:46 | |
| So if you bought 3, it would equal $60.00 and then it would have an expiration of one year after activation. So one other | 01:18:49 | |
| suggestion that we're making is to move to this digital permit. | 01:18:54 | |
| And in doing that, it does allow us to, rather than every year have to send out new permits. We're able to do it throughout the | 01:19:00 | |
| year. When people need to pass, they can buy one, get it instantly, and it'll be valid for an entire year. | 01:19:06 | |
| Moving on to the council designated amenity parking were yeah sure you were able to fix the OR have a discussion about the. | 01:19:13 | |
| If the program or the parking app goes down. | 01:19:23 | |
| Yeah, yeah, I'll get to that in just one second. OK. Did I want you to go past the digital cast is impacted by that as well. OK. | 01:19:26 | |
| We reached out to our parking consultant on the current parking status of 300 W and Rd. | 01:19:33 | |
| And by their counts counts, they suggested that we increase the permit count there up to 110. | 01:19:41 | |
| Last year we sold all 82, but it was at the end of December that we actually sold that 82nd pass. | 01:19:47 | |
| So it shows that there is, you know, some market from that and you know we could have additional supply there. | 01:19:54 | |
| And then we are suggesting to keep that at $60.00 per year to ensure that the supply is is there for people that do need it. | 01:20:00 | |
| So that would be no change to the price there and then that same thing would have an expiration of one year after activation. | 01:20:08 | |
| And so this is where I get to the wide digital permit. We had some questions about that, how people will be impacted by that. | 01:20:15 | |
| So I have a few points here and I'll address that that concern you brought up. | 01:20:21 | |
| But first of all, this has a lot more. | 01:20:25 | |
| Reduced administrative time, so we have. | 01:20:28 | |
| A lot of people were asking for a reduced price, but we've got that original $60.00 per year just by calculating how much staff | 01:20:30 | |
| time was required for these physical passes and what we were doing. | 01:20:35 | |
| But by moving to this digital permit, it eliminates a lot of that time and so. | 01:20:41 | |
| You know that that's by far one of the biggest impacts of this. | 01:20:46 | |
| But then #2 that's accessibility and convenience. So right now, if you want to pass, you have to fill out an application, create | 01:20:50 | |
| an account. There's a pretty big process. | 01:20:55 | |
| Then it gets to staff on a business day and we have to verify everything and then we have to mail it out and you're getting your | 01:20:59 | |
| pass. | 01:21:03 | |
| 234 days after you've applied for it with the digital permit you you know if you need it and it's 10:00 PM, you can scan a QR | 01:21:06 | |
| code, download a. | 01:21:10 | |
| App and you're instantly have a path. | 01:21:14 | |
| One of the other benefits was that permits can be cycled through each year, so rather than a year to year calendar basis. | 01:21:18 | |
| Umm, this will allow for instance, in like lakefront community where we do have a lot of college age students where they're moving | 01:21:24 | |
| in and out more frequently throughout the year. They're not moving in in January, They're most likely moving in July or August | 01:21:29 | |
| during this, you know, before the school semester. | 01:21:34 | |
| So this would allow those permits to cycle through. | 01:21:39 | |
| In the year when we need them, rather than at the beginning of the year. | 01:21:43 | |
| Without doing digital, I don't think it would be. | 01:21:46 | |
| Possible for us to do that? | 01:21:49 | |
| So that's a huge benefit for those streets. | 01:21:51 | |
| And then we had other people ask us questions about the personal identification that's collected. | 01:21:55 | |
| And we did verify with the Tone company you were able to delete everything. Once everything has BeenVerified, you can delete | 01:22:01 | |
| everything that you want. | 01:22:04 | |
| And then the third I put on here just at that last account for me when we had a resident get up and explain some frustration | 01:22:09 | |
| dealing with this app in the past and and I'll be honest, there probably will be some frustrations. | 01:22:14 | |
| With technology, that's just what happened. | 01:22:20 | |
| And I brought these concerns to our vendor and they mentioned that they do have a 24/7 helpline. So if you are on the app and | 01:22:23 | |
| you're trying to switch the license, the license plate to another person in your apartment or whatever. | 01:22:29 | |
| And it's not working. You can call that helpline and they can resolve the problem. | 01:22:36 | |
| They I also didn't want to mention that this company operates this digital pass in the city already. | 01:22:41 | |
| Mostly in the apartments along Mill Rd. | 01:22:47 | |
| And they told me that they have almost 80,000 active permits statewide that they are. | 01:22:49 | |
| You know, handling right now, so it shows that it's a proven method and. | 01:22:54 | |
| And while there might be some frustrations, you know it has been a success overall and one of the reasons why you switched from | 01:23:00 | |
| visitor passes. | 01:23:03 | |
| And two, just three passes is because there was some kind of fee. Yeah, yeah. So I talked to the vendor about that and they said | 01:23:07 | |
| that just with every single visitor pass, they'd have to pay a fee. | 01:23:13 | |
| As little as, I mean, it'd be $3, but if you're, you know, having to pay $3 over and over and over again, it would be kind of a | 01:23:18 | |
| pain. | 01:23:21 | |
| And so when I brought that up at this town hall is actually one of the residences like why don't you just let us buy up to three | 01:23:24 | |
| and that could resolve that issue. | 01:23:28 | |
| And I thought that was a fitting. | 01:23:31 | |
| Action that we could do. | 01:23:34 | |
| So that's that's all that I have. | 01:23:37 | |
| Could you go back to the second? | 01:23:39 | |
| Hi there. | 01:23:41 | |
| So is the. | 01:23:45 | |
| My contacts are. | 01:23:47 | |
| The $60.00 per year is that? | 01:23:50 | |
| Still going to be a prorated option. So that would not be just because we are having it be a one year pass no matter what. If you | 01:23:53 | |
| buy it in July, it'll be a valid until July of the next year. Whereas before if you bought it in July, it would expire that | 01:23:59 | |
| December. So you're only buying half of the year of a pass, but now you're buying a whole year. | 01:24:04 | |
| No matter what, that's great at the town hall. How many people? | 01:24:10 | |
| Umm, 10 maybe? | 01:24:14 | |
| Did we have multiple communities? It was mostly people from Providence. I think there were one or two people from from the | 01:24:17 | |
| lakefront community there. And you guys felt like you got your concerns resolved. | 01:24:22 | |
| OK. All right. | 01:24:27 | |
| Well, Council. | 01:24:29 | |
| What do you want to do, honest? | 01:24:32 | |
| I want to tell Cash Bank. Thank you Sir for helping me too. | 01:24:34 | |
| I want to make one comment just to make sure that we're. | 01:24:42 | |
| We're clear for the Providence and Springs neighborhoods, this was a resident driven pass, right? Yes, they both were. So when | 01:24:45 | |
| they were when they all signed up for it. | 01:24:51 | |
| They understood all the guidelines. I think they'll be happy about the $20 per permit. | 01:24:56 | |
| If something happens and they're uncomfortable with like the changes on the number of. | 01:25:02 | |
| Per household, this is something that we can come back and change if we're learning that maybe it's creating. Yeah, like if people | 01:25:07 | |
| were like reselling these or something like that, we got word of that, then, you know, we could definitely examine that. Yeah. I | 01:25:12 | |
| think maybe there's a few things to talk about with how. | 01:25:17 | |
| We should look. | 01:25:23 | |
| Approaching this law. | 01:25:24 | |
| It's that. | 01:25:26 | |
| One of the things that we recommended to the community when we put it in was that we wait a year and we test it out. | 01:25:28 | |
| I think that's in the actual. | 01:25:34 | |
| And Bill, right. | 01:25:37 | |
| In that ordinance. | 01:25:40 | |
| Right in the program. | 01:25:41 | |
| I'm not sure. It could be in the original 1. It might be an original 1. | 01:25:43 | |
| But there's a few reasons. Because maybe we would only do it if we saw an egregious problem with it. | 01:25:46 | |
| The city has the ability to go in and change the parking programs. | 01:25:54 | |
| And then there's a super majority that has the ability to change the parking programs. | 01:25:58 | |
| This one is being driven by the community. | 01:26:03 | |
| I mean by the city, correct? So this is a, this is a change. | 01:26:06 | |
| So This is why we held the round table. This is why we brought it up multiple times. We've talked about it for a year. | 01:26:10 | |
| We noticed that we put Flyers out there. | 01:26:18 | |
| That's why when residents came in and said they wanted to talk about it, we slowed down and we held a town hall. | 01:26:21 | |
| So at this point, if a big group of people came back and they said, hey, we don't like this. | 01:26:27 | |
| I feel like we need to be thoughtful about. | 01:26:33 | |
| Where your limits are for how you're going to change and flip flop back and forth and maybe give yourself a limit and say let's | 01:26:36 | |
| test this out unless it reaches. | 01:26:41 | |
| Some kind of level and if you don't feel comfortable with it? | 01:26:46 | |
| Because you think it could reach some kind of level, then think about how you want to vote on it. | 01:26:49 | |
| You know. | 01:26:54 | |
| Well, yeah, that's a great idea and. | 01:26:55 | |
| Also, we discussed the because if everyone in Providence bought 3 passes, there's not enough parking, correct? So they agreed that | 01:26:58 | |
| it would be on a first come first served basis. | 01:27:03 | |
| And I think it's a great idea to to let it be a year long. | 01:27:08 | |
| Pilot program or program? | 01:27:12 | |
| If we need to revisit it, it's after that one year mark. | 01:27:15 | |
| So if it's first come, first serve, how many would be the maximum? So I believe that in that neighborhood, we could safely park | 01:27:18 | |
| about 160 vehicles. | 01:27:23 | |
| Legally, I should say. | 01:27:28 | |
| Which would be almost 2 per household but. | 01:27:30 | |
| This last year when we sold permits, we only sold 42 permits total. So I, I. | 01:27:33 | |
| I honestly think there might be. | 01:27:39 | |
| You know a handful of houses that need those 3 permits. You know if they have, we haven't heard from people that said they have. | 01:27:40 | |
| Eight kids living in a household, and some of them are turning to the driving age and they need a place to park. And right now | 01:27:46 | |
| they're not able to do that. And somebody's like, yeah, I actually gave my pass to my neighbor. | 01:27:51 | |
| You know, and so this hopefully resolves that issue for those homes, but I imagine most, most households would would be in the one | 01:27:55 | |
| to two permits per household. | 01:27:59 | |
| But this just allows that flexibility for the few. | 01:28:04 | |
| One other thing we can do is we can monitor this as we, you know, as people buy permits, we can collect the data on how many | 01:28:07 | |
| permits have been purchased. | 01:28:10 | |
| And that will help us in the future understand you know it. | 01:28:14 | |
| If nobody buys 3 then it's kind of pointless but. | 01:28:17 | |
| You know, if there still are quite a few that are, then, you know, I think it was overall a good idea. Net benefit to the | 01:28:20 | |
| community. What's the number in the springs? How many people bought them in the springs or how many houses there's? Yeah. What | 01:28:25 | |
| would the cat be? So I mean, there's 19 houses that could purchase it. As far as the cat goes, it's quite a bit higher just | 01:28:30 | |
| because they have that entire. | 01:28:35 | |
| Side that goes along Freedom Elementary that is legal to park next to so they could probably park well over 3 permits per | 01:28:40 | |
| household there. | 01:28:43 | |
| OK, I. | 01:28:48 | |
| So could you cap it? | 01:28:51 | |
| What do you mean? Like the total number of permits? Obviously they're not. | 01:28:55 | |
| Going above 50. | 01:28:59 | |
| Let's say something crazy happened. | 01:29:00 | |
| Then maybe we should cap it out how many people could actually park there because then that would make a first come, first serve. | 01:29:03 | |
| Yeah. So one thing that we're going to do on the permit application is it will say that the parking is not guaranteed. | 01:29:09 | |
| Like street parking is not guaranteed, so every single inch of legal parking stalls was taken up. | 01:29:15 | |
| That permit you know they're not. | 01:29:21 | |
| Don't be able to park with it. | 01:29:23 | |
| I mean, I think that the worst case scenario that that would ever happen. | 01:29:25 | |
| I think right now that the neighborhood is operating pretty well. We even had somebody say that it's drastically improved the | 01:29:29 | |
| quality of life in the neighborhood. | 01:29:32 | |
| With our current program, but this you know additional step would would just help with those few that do need it. | 01:29:36 | |
| This is awesome. But yeah, I'm just thinking, Can you imagine if everybody suddenly started parking three vehicles on the street? | 01:29:42 | |
| The drastic improvement is that they can park on the street, but also that there's a reduction of the people that work. Yeah. And, | 01:29:47 | |
| and maybe this is something we monitor closely. And if we do notice and we hear from the residents that it is becoming a problem, | 01:29:51 | |
| we could reexamine it. | 01:29:56 | |
| In six months or a year and make those adjustments as needed. Well, I'm just saying even if you just keep this, if you just | 01:30:01 | |
| captured at 150, so that I mean it's not outlandish, but I think the hard thing for that is we'd have to do that per neighborhood, | 01:30:05 | |
| right? So like for Providence neighborhood, we'd have to say this neighborhood's gonna be capped at this, Springs is gonna be | 01:30:10 | |
| capped at this. | 01:30:15 | |
| And any, you know, if we look at, you know, holdaway fields as part of their development agreement, they're gonna have to be | 01:30:20 | |
| captive a certain number. | 01:30:23 | |
| OK, well. | 01:30:27 | |
| I guess, Council, do you have any other questions or thoughts or? | 01:30:30 | |
| Where do you want to go with this? | 01:30:34 | |
| Does anybody in the gallery have any questions I'd love to ask? | 01:30:36 | |
| If they have anything. | 01:30:39 | |
| If we can open it up if they had a comment. | 01:30:41 | |
| Can we ask permission if anyone had anyone? It looks like the people that lived in the community said all of their problems were | 01:30:43 | |
| resolved is everything. No comments on parking on that community. | 01:30:49 | |
| Yeah, that's why I asked. Is it? Sure. I don't mind how many people want to make a comment. | 01:30:55 | |
| OK, come to the microphone. | 01:31:01 | |
| I just want to remind you Crystal Price. | 01:31:13 | |
| I just want to remind you that before the program, it was a neighborhood just like any other neighborhood and Vineyard. | 01:31:16 | |
| Where you could park in front of your house and we had. | 01:31:22 | |
| Because of the looks. | 01:31:26 | |
| We had. | 01:31:28 | |
| Our streets lined with cars of people who didn't live in our neighborhood so. | 01:31:29 | |
| It's kind of futile to me that you're discussing a cap. | 01:31:35 | |
| On how many passes if it's? | 01:31:39 | |
| Residents only that live there. | 01:31:43 | |
| Right. It goes back to this like it doesn't matter if our it's first come, first serve, which is great. Thank you. | 01:31:45 | |
| First come, first serve. | 01:31:52 | |
| And if our streets are lined, so be it. We're the ones that assign those parking passes to whoever is visiting us. No, I love it. | 01:31:54 | |
| I was just thinking that sometimes when you get new people that come in and they end up doing long term rentals. | 01:32:00 | |
| To make additional funds they could take people's license plates and rotate them in, but even still, I would rather have that one | 01:32:09 | |
| annoying neighbor who's selling passes. | 01:32:15 | |
| Because most of us don't need them. I don't need any but. | 01:32:20 | |
| We have neighbors that have 6 drivers and they have to borrow passes from other neighbors. If you if you feel comfortable with it, | 01:32:24 | |
| I feel I feel fine. I just wanted to make sure you didn't end up with that same situation. I know you're experiencing the races | 01:32:30 | |
| and the cars and the trash and on my porch at 2:00 AM. And if I do, I know where they live and I will go chew them out myself. So | 01:32:37 | |
| thank you for coming. It was neighboring. | 01:32:43 | |
| The locks, the locks and Tucker room and some solstice because. | 01:32:51 | |
| They're really screwed in that neighborhood. | 01:32:55 | |
| But anyway, thank you. | 01:32:58 | |
| All right, Council, go ahead and make your comments and make a motion. | 01:32:59 | |
| I move to adopt resolution. | 01:33:10 | |
| I didn't know we were done with the comment. I'd like to take a comment I I reached out to an HR person up. | 01:33:12 | |
| I water. | 01:33:20 | |
| And they immediately just told me, no matter what, don't use this vendor. And that's the vendor that we're using. And then I | 01:33:22 | |
| reached into it a little bit more. | 01:33:26 | |
| On I think I talked to 8 or 9. | 01:33:30 | |
| NATO said the app is clunky and has just The onboarding process was just so problematic. | 01:33:33 | |
| So that that concerns. | 01:33:40 | |
| The other is a blanket. | 01:33:42 | |
| I think we've solved an issue in one neighborhood, which is awesome, but the 300 WI would wish that we could exempt them from that | 01:33:44 | |
| and do. | 01:33:48 | |
| I don't think we have the HOA leadership in that group on board with that so. | 01:33:52 | |
| Those are my issues. | 01:33:56 | |
| I think we've moved the ball forward on on the others. | 01:33:58 | |
| OK, I just want to thank Sarah for all your hard work. | 01:34:04 | |
| And I'm glad for the community engagement. Thank you for coming and participating and. | 01:34:07 | |
| I do think that each neighborhood has different issues. There are some neighborhoods that have. | 01:34:13 | |
| Overpopulation and too many cars that make it hard for them to. | 01:34:18 | |
| Safeway navigate their roads. | 01:34:23 | |
| But it sounds like for these two neighborhoods, this is a really perfect setup and option. So it's great. And I've invited the HOA | 01:34:25 | |
| at Lakefront to come. | 01:34:30 | |
| And discuss their situation with us. | 01:34:35 | |
| So I'm waiting to hear back from them. | 01:34:37 | |
| All right, we have a first motion on the table. Can I get a second? | 01:34:39 | |
| 2nd. | 01:34:43 | |
| Thank you. First by Sarah, second by Brett. | 01:34:44 | |
| And this is done by real call take. | 01:34:48 | |
| No, Brett. | 01:34:50 | |
| Aye, aye, Marty. Hi, Sarah. All right, Great. It's passed. I'm adjourning this meeting. Thank you for coming. | 01:34:53 |