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  • Call to Order/Invocation/Inspirational Thought/Pledge of Allegiance   Chair Nathan Steele called the meeting to order at04pm. Chair Steele led an invocation and the pledge of allegiance.  
  • Presentations/Recognitions/Awards/Proclamations   1.Developments Review
  • Senior Planner Cache Hancey presented a review of developments coming soon. He provided a brief discussion for each development.
  • Chair Steele appreciated the presentation. He noted to send out the presentation to the commissioners and possibly on the city website.   Commissioner David Pearce asked if he could annotate some of his comments on the sent out presentation.   Chair Steele opened up to the public.
  • Resident Daria Evans asked about gateway.
  • Commissioner Pearce appreciated the presentation and asked for a copy to be available to be the public.   Senior Planner Hancey discussed access on the website.
  • Chair Steele asked about who is dedicated to GIS.   Senior Planner Hancey discussed our GIS specialist.  
  • Public Comments PC   There were no public comments.  
  • Consent Items  2.Approval of the Juneth,25 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes
  • Motion: COMMISSIONER PEARCE MOTIONED TO APPROVE THE JUNETH PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES AT25PM. COMMISSIONER GRADEN OSTLER SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR VOTED YES: PEARCE, STEELE, AND OSTLER. THE VOTE CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.  
  • Business Items  3.PUBLIC HEARING: Transportation Master Plan + Impact Fee   City Engineer and Public Works Director Naseem Ghandour recommended postponing to the first meeting in September.
  • Motion: CHAIR STEELE MOTIONED TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO THE SEPTEMBERD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. COMMISSIONER PEARCE SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR VOTED YES: PEARCE, STEELE, AND OSTLER. THE VOTE CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.  
  • Work Session  4.The Bluffs at Vineyard
  • Planning Technician Madison Reed provided a presentation and overview of the project. She highlighted a few of the amenities.
  • Commissioner Ostler asked questions about maintenance responsibilities.   Planning Technician Reed responded that the city has taken over maintenance. There was a discussion about liabilities and maintenance.
  • Director Ghandour responded that the permits that are filed with the state will handle any legal issues. He mentioned that trash cans and dog waste stations are placed on a frequent schedule.    Commissioner Pearce asked questions about the volleyball court and wanted to know if there are other locations for volleyball courts.
  • Chair Steele provided feedback on amenities and financing. Discussion about the volleyball court location ensued.   Public access and reservations were discussed.
  • Chair Steele requested for a group to help fundraise and establish a better experience. He opened up to the public.
  • Resident David Lauret asked for clarification on land ownership and public meetings. He asked if it could be turn into parking.
  • Ms. Evans asked about landscaping near Sunset Beach Park due to how steep the bluff is.    Director Ghandour explained that the slope will be considered during the design.
  • Resident Josh Hunt stated that he was thrilled that the city is working on this and loved a volleyball court. He mentioned that the southern access point to the lake is very popular and could benefit from amenities. He felt that the parking on0 west was available enough to provide access for the site.
  • Chair Steele requested some photos of the existing conditions.   5.
  • Update to City Ordinances and Zoning Maps: Massage Establishments and Sexually-Oriented Businesses
  • Business Licensing Specialist Kelly Kloepfer presented an update to explain that the city is in process of updating city ordinances and zoning maps regarding massage establishments and sexually-oriented businesses.     
  • Staff and Commission Reports   Planner Anthony Fletcher invited the members of the public to the next Active Transportation Commission meeting.
  • Chair Steele discussed the attendance of commissioners.    
  • Adjournment    Meeting was adjourned at14pm.       minutes certified COMPLETE ON: Augustth,25 CERTIFIED (NOTICED) BY:                                                      Madison Reed, Planning Technician
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Event transcript
We have a quorum. Are we good to start? 00:00:22
OK. 00:00:24
Alright, bye. 00:00:26
Welcome everyone to the Planning Commission meeting for the City of Vineyard on August 6, 2025. 00:00:27
We're gonna go ahead and call the meeting to order and I'm gonna start with. 00:00:33
An implication and then budget was? 00:00:37
And her Father in heaven. 00:00:41
We're grateful for this day and we're grateful for this opportunity. 00:00:42
To be here and. 00:00:45
To discuss the needs of our community and items on this agenda, we pray that thou please bless us. 00:00:47
With a spirit of. 00:00:53
Umm, uh. 00:00:55
Neighborhood. 00:00:57
Togetherness. 00:00:59
So that we can work together. 00:01:00
And discuss and. 00:01:02
Come to determination on what is the best for our community. 00:01:04
Uh, we are very grateful. 00:01:07
For all of our blessings. 00:01:09
As we pray for and then let you just press them up. 00:01:11
I pledge allegiance. 00:01:13
To the flag of the United States of America. 00:01:20
And to the Republic for which it stands. 00:01:23
One nation underground. 00:01:26
Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 00:01:28
Thank you everyone. 00:01:34
We are going to start with the presentation. 00:01:37
Which is a development review. Umm, I want to remind everyone that this is a presentation. 00:01:40
And so there is no action needed tonight. 00:01:46
Uh, we may have. 00:01:49
Questions and discussions. So none of that is agendized. 00:01:51
Uh, what? The purpose of all of this is just to review. 00:01:55
Uh, ongoing. 00:01:59
Community development department activity in vineyards. So with that, I'll hand it over to Kesh. 00:02:01
OK. Thank you so much. 00:02:05
Umm, yeah, just as the chair said here, uh, the purpose of this? 00:02:07
Presentation UMM is to give the Planning Commission and. 00:02:11
We pay the volume down. 00:02:15
It's just putting the feedback on my mind. There you go. 00:02:17
UMM is to give the the Planning Commission and, and the public kind of an idea of, of the pipeline of of. 00:02:19
Projects that are coming down the line. 00:02:24
Umm, most of these are, are submitted applications. Some of them that may be umm, kind of more conceptual and we're still kind of 00:02:26
working that out before it gets to the the application. 00:02:30
Kind of thing. So I have here kind of a map. 00:02:35
That shows all of the the different projects. 00:02:38
Going on in the city and I, I have them broken up. 00:02:41
Umm, mostly according to kind of development name, because a few of them like uh. 00:02:43
That stopped doing even the top right corner that we don't quite have a name in it. 00:02:47
Kind of messy on on how many different owners there are. 00:02:51
Umm, But with that, I'll just go through each slide, just kind of talk about each different. 00:02:53
Each different development and then over in the. 00:02:58
If the red, that generally means that. 00:03:01
Items that will be coming to the Planning Commission in the. 00:03:04
The future. I don't have a crystal ball to tell you when. 00:03:06
Umm, but. 00:03:09
Sometime in the future, so. 00:03:10
Pulled away fields. This is a a recent residential neighborhood. 00:03:12
Umm, that they're, uh, working on, uh, moving into phase two soon and Phase 2 will connect that road. 00:03:15
Umm from Main Street all the way up to 4th. 00:03:21
So umm, which is is a great model connection for our community. 00:03:23
Umm, items that they do have is going to be uh, HOA clubhouse that they'll be the site plan on umm, that's gonna serve the 55 plus 00:03:27
community. 00:03:31
Umm, the church has. 00:03:35
Zelda's church has two partial. 00:03:37
That are. 00:03:38
Not developed. They have one that's under construction while underway with the with the Chapel on it. 00:03:39
Umm. And so we'll, we'll probably see something on those two partials at some point. 00:03:44
Umm, from my understanding that southern partial, the larger one, they aren't really interested in building. 00:03:48
Umm, 1/3 church right there. 00:03:53
Umm, and so we're not sure what that what that would be. I know our rec team would would love to talk with you there, but. 00:03:55
We're not sure. 00:04:01
Umm. The other item are gonna be these three parts that I have highlighted in green. 00:04:02
And also I do want to also process this some of my. 00:04:07
Umm get turned around, umm, just because of how the the nature of how these developments work. 00:04:11
Try to try to include the north area to help you understand what's up. 00:04:16
So and also. 00:04:20
Up to you currently Commission. If you guys have questions as I go through these, I'm happy to entertain them or I'm happy to go 00:04:21
through the presentation and. 00:04:24
I I could do the presentation all the way. 00:04:28
And then we'll just write down any questions that we have if we need to have. 00:04:30
Perfect question. Again reminder. 00:04:33
We're not really offering opinion on these are all done. 00:04:35
Can't influence what's going on with them. Umm. 00:04:39
The only request I have if you know it off hand. 00:04:42
Umm, if you know the general sizes of the lots, if they're 50 foot wide, 60 foot terrible. Yeah, yeah, this development it it. 00:04:46
Honestly it varies so much. You do have in the the like. 00:04:54
Goldish color. That's the 55 watts there, a bit smaller. 00:04:56
Umm, but then in the the yellow and the those are gonna be I wanna say about. 00:05:00
Quarter, maybe 1/3. 00:05:04
Umm, I guess I can use my mouse here. 00:05:06
Uh, umm, and then these are larger locks here. 00:05:09
And this kind of started throughout and then these are also a different. 00:05:12
Style umm, so it it does vary, but overall I think the development averages right around 1/3 acre. 00:05:15
And I like I said, I could be wrong. It might be a little bit more than that. 00:05:24
So here's the orchards in Pod 2. 00:05:28
Umm, this is the the center street right here where the bridge is at. 00:05:30
Umm, you can see kind of live work units here that that will start construction soon. The Planning Commission recently approved. 00:05:34
Umm, everything in the pinkish colors. 00:05:40
Been approved for a long time they're they're well under way with construction there. 00:05:42
Umm, Franklin Discovery Academy. That's uh, because of the state entity. 00:05:46
Umm, as a charter school, they they did not have to go through any kind of. 00:05:50
A approval process and so they are building a. 00:05:53
Umm, auditorium. 00:05:56
And that kind of green box area there? 00:05:58
Umm, and then pod 2 here right now it's zoned for single family home residential. We have heard from the developer there, they're 00:06:00
interested in in potential changes there. Umm, if they do want to go through those it would require. 00:06:05
But the public process of of pu uh, public hearing, Planning Commission meeting, City Council meeting. 00:06:10
Umm, but that that's all we we really have to share on that for now. 00:06:15
Umm, right here. This is the Vineyard Gateway. Umm. 00:06:20
What was Planning Commission recently just approved this, uh, lighter blue building here. 00:06:24
Umm, we've seen plans for potential purple buildings right here. 00:06:29
Umm. My guess is that would be after this blue building is complete. 00:06:33
Umm. And then this. 00:06:37
Pipes. I don't know what I call this. 00:06:38
Uh-huh. 00:06:41
Not a great looking lot right now. 00:06:41
But, uh, they have. 00:06:43
In the past. 00:06:44
Comes with the Planning Commission. Umm, they they wanted to go from office buildings there, but their office buildings were five 00:06:45
feet taller than the the zone allows. 00:06:48
Umm, and that got denied at the City Council. 00:06:52
Umm, they have, however. 00:06:55
Uh recently expressed that they want to try and and go for that again. 00:06:57
Umm, the the one unique thing about the RMU, the zone is it doesn't have setbacks. And that was one of the concerns with the the 00:07:00
neighbors right here. 00:07:04
Umm And So what we're gonna talk for is doing kind of a step back thing that for every. 00:07:07
Foot from the property line. They can have an increase or every. 00:07:12
5 feet from the property line. They can have an extra 1 building height or something like that to help protect. 00:07:15
Umm, the residential. Otherwise they could build a 60 foot office building right on the property line if they wanted to. 00:07:20
Umm. And so that. 00:07:26
The the kind of the concept that they've shown with umm, retail pads right here as well, and then a large parking lot a part 00:07:28
potential. 00:07:31
Umm, A2 level parking garage right here. 00:07:35
Umm, this is the Geneva Rd. mixed-use UH or GRNU as we often call it. This is mostly all built out or well under way of 00:07:39
construction. 00:07:43
Except for this one commercial building. 00:07:47
Umm, the the Planning Commission recently did approve a conditional use permit for this lot for a hybrid commercial production 00:07:49
facility. 00:07:53
Umm, our understanding is there's a a candy maker that that potentially wants to buy that lot and put in some sort of retail and 00:07:56
production facility right there. 00:08:00
Umm and then the the McDonald's right now with. 00:08:04
Installed we we aren't quite sure what the status of that right now. I I think their concern is access to their site. 00:08:07
Umm, but we'll, we'll continue to work with the landowner and McDonald's on that. 00:08:12
Umm, this is the yard for the most part. A lot of it is built out. Umm, you do see there are three retail pads that they got 00:08:19
approved I believe in 2019. 00:08:23
Umm, that. 00:08:28
Uh, they're just waiting on it for last phases of development. 00:08:29
Umm, the the Planning Commission will will not, it won't go through the Planning Commission process because it's like I said, it's 00:08:33
already been approved. 00:08:36
Umm unless they have changes. So for example like when Chipotle came they wanted to build a more unique building. 00:08:40
Uh, that fits their style. And for the Planning Commission did do a site plan amendment on the elevations of it. 00:08:45
Umm in red you can kinda see the the vacant partial. 00:08:50
Umm and then the last big thing for the yard is gonna be this multi, uh, multi use mixed-use building in the the corner there the 00:08:54
the. 00:08:57
Uh parking plan is approved for. 00:09:01
Umm, now they're just waiting on getting the site plan ready for that. 00:09:03
But from our understanding, it's about 300 residential units. 00:09:08
There with some sort of rentals and then some ground floor retail. 00:09:11
Umm, here's the forage which I I don't think we need to get into detail on just because we've we've recently reviewed them. 00:09:16
Umm, the the colors here kind of outline. 00:09:22
The the desired uses are where you have, uh, the light blue being entertainment and commercial dark blue residential. 00:09:25
Uh, the purple is Intermountain Health. 00:09:32
Orange is potential office. 00:09:35
And then a public. 00:09:36
Off down here as part of their uh. 00:09:37
Development agreement. 00:09:40
Umm. 00:09:41
Here is the concept plan that they've recently committed. 00:09:45
Umm, we're we're not exactly sure their their status of their profession at this point right now though. 00:09:48
So each thing about this is, uh, a very large swath of land. Umm, this is generally we, we refer to each team as everything, each 00:09:57
of the railroad tracks and north of of 800 N. 00:10:02
Umm, it's really right now just broken up into two zones. You have the the blue being a regional commercial and the purple being 00:10:08
flexed off its industrial. 00:10:11
Umm, and then UVU kind of taking up the middle of that. 00:10:15
Umm. I will note though, that right now we're actually going through a stationary plan. This is something that is required by 00:10:19
state law. 00:10:22
Umm to to essentially plan the the radius around your farmer station and because of. 00:10:25
Our West side being already planned out with Utah City and the east side being EVU, we're able to use that to plan out. 00:10:30
The the zoning and the blocking of. 00:10:36
The rest of this and so. 00:10:38
Umm, I believe that we have a deadline of like November that we need to get this approved, the stationary plan. So Anthony's been 00:10:40
meeting up that project and I would expect. 00:10:44
To to kind of see. 00:10:48
A lot more details on this. 00:10:50
Uh, probably next month. 00:10:51
Yeah, so. 00:10:53
Uh, I think I have. 00:10:55
Yeah, next step here. So we're gonna adopt the stationary plan. That is something the city and Mountain Land Association of 00:10:56
governments have to approve. 00:10:59
You can kind of see what we. 00:11:03
What the stationary plan is is leaning on doing is is focusing that commercial kind of in the middle. 00:11:05
And then having a flexible. 00:11:09
Commercial. 00:11:10
Sorry, mixed-use commercial in the middle and then flex commercial on the outside. 00:11:11
Get a lot more into the details of what those mean. 00:11:15
And entail as we go through the the stationary apply process. 00:11:17
Once that's been approved, the the developer can go through site plan processes and uh, the 1200 N bridge will also be. 00:11:21
Uh, coming on online then too? 00:11:28
Umm, East Lake of Geneva. This is uh, we've seen a few side plants through here. This is generally like the concrete tilt up type 00:11:32
construction. 00:11:36
Umm, you can kind of see that orange, uh, lots. There are what's really left. 00:11:39
Umm, I understand that that this larger lot they use for a lot of. I think they have a contract with UDOT to store. 00:11:44
Uh, freeway signs and stuff like that out there if you drive by or ride your bike by that trail. 00:11:50
You'll see just a lot of really big. 00:11:54
Pieces of feeling fine. 00:11:56
Umm, so I, I don't know if they're eager to, to get moving on that or not, but they, they have shown over the past few years to to 00:11:58
build out quite a bit. 00:12:01
Umm UVUI wanted to throw this out there just so people can be aware of their latest plans. This was their national plan adopted. 00:12:07
I wanna say. 00:12:14
Last year. 00:12:15
Umm, this will not go through the public process at at the city level because you use a state empty. 00:12:16
We really don't have any control over what they do we. 00:12:22
They do have to cooperate with us. 00:12:25
Utilities and stuff like that and and they do want to be a good partner with the city. 00:12:26
Umm, but that being said, this is, uh, kind of what they, they have in mind, umm, that, that blue area, if you'll know, is on the. 00:12:30
I forgot to put N arrow here and my map. 00:12:37
In two different directions. 00:12:39
But that blue area, they they saw the. 00:12:41
With something coming online, they wanted to be able to build some sort of healthcare campus. 00:12:44
Nearby that as well until you'll see this blue area is right here. 00:12:48
Right next to where the the Huntsman Cancer Institute will be built on the West side of the track. 00:12:52
OK, Utah City, I think this might be. 00:13:00
Might be the last one. 00:13:02
Umm. 00:13:03
This this is a a very large project, project I tried to just kind of highlight in those words there where what we have been 00:13:05
approved, what we have approved. 00:13:09
And what's still got to be approved? So you'll see that the dark blue is buildings that are. 00:13:13
Uh, under construction. 00:13:18
The order in the building product process. 00:13:20
Umm, the red is, they're online, so that's block 5. There's people living there. That's the 120 bend address that you've seen. 00:13:23
Umm, anything about that? 00:13:30
Umm, Orange, we're in the site plan review for that right now, so that will be coming to the Planning Commission soon. 00:13:32
Umm, Huntsman Cancer Institute is the purple block. 00:13:38
The potential, uh, future City Hall is that light blue? 00:13:41
Umm, and then the promenade ingredient. And then all the Gray you see is surface parking. 00:13:45
Built or will build. 00:13:50
As as the site plan approval. 00:13:52
Oh, and then Della's market. 00:13:54
Right here and then the pickleball courts or the. 00:13:56
Uh, you talked to the. 00:13:59
Racquet Club or whatever they call it right there. 00:14:00
So that is all I have. 00:14:04
Umm I just wanna say thank you so much. I I requested this. 00:14:07
I know that was a lot of work. 00:14:11
To put together, but it's very well done. 00:14:13
And I think something like this. 00:14:15
Is such a benefit. 00:14:17
Uh, to this body as well. 00:14:19
To the community. 00:14:21
Because there's lots of discussion about. 00:14:22
What's going in? What's not going in? 00:14:24
And I like to just be official. 00:14:26
Yeah, yeah, I, yeah, a absolutely. And and I'd be happy to to do this. I don't know if it's. 00:14:28
Twice a year. Once a year, but do a refresh and update. 00:14:34
I, I think, would be really good for the Planning Commission, for staff and for the community. 00:14:37
Yeah, well, I would. Umm. 00:14:41
Love to see. 00:14:42
Umm, First off, if it could be sent to the body, umm. 00:14:44
Uh, not as an agenda, uh, attachment. I would love to get this presentation, uh, just for my own education benefit, but. 00:14:49
I think you've been putting it on the. 00:14:55
City website would be a great idea uh, because one of the best ways. 00:14:57
I take that to squash rumors. 00:15:01
Is to say. 00:15:03
Look at all the agendas. Yeah, we never said a Chick-fil-A going so. 00:15:04
I think that's a really good thing to do. 00:15:08
OK, yeah, I I can work on that. 00:15:10
OK umm, I do want to give time to my phone commissioners if you have any comments or questions. 00:15:11
Yeah. Can you? 00:15:18
When you send them. 00:15:19
Can you annotate some of the comments that you made? 00:15:20
Sure. Yeah, I could do that. 00:15:24
And I I want to say I love this too. 00:15:26
OK. I think that helps us. 00:15:29
Make better decisions. 00:15:31
UH helps our decision making process because we can see things in context. 00:15:33
Yeah. Appreciate it. 00:15:39
Umm, even though this is not a public hearing, umm, and we're not doing any decisions. 00:15:42
There are. 00:15:46
Five members of the community who are. 00:15:47
Very involved. 00:15:49
Umm, and I'd be. 00:15:51
Remiss if I didn't give an opportunity for any. 00:15:53
Comment umm, so I'll go ahead and open that up right now. Please come to the mic. 00:15:55
Uh, give great comments. 00:15:59
Understanding full well that we may or may not be able to address them, but I still wanna be able to. 00:16:00
Get the opportunity. 00:16:05
Thank you for this opportunity to ask a question. Daria Evans and your. 00:16:10
Umm, pillows resident. 00:16:14
Can you please Orient me where? 00:16:15
Vineyard Gateway is. 00:16:18
I couldn't. 00:16:20
So I'll go back and show you just, uh. 00:16:21
So Vineyard Gateway is this one. Let me Google Earth. 00:16:25
Open right here. 00:16:28
Food truck Yep. So you have the Dairy Queen right here you have. 00:16:29
OK. So it's kind of this partial here. 00:16:35
That's all I need to know. 00:16:38
Thank you very much. 00:16:39
Hi, David Loray. 00:16:46
OK, and I wanna say thank you very much. This is really cool. 00:16:48
Also, umm with. 00:16:51
Uh, you've mentioned you want to have it on the website. Will it be uh? 00:16:52
When would that be available for the public to see? 00:16:55
I I'd love to get a copy as soon as possible. 00:16:57
Umm, I might be able to do it tonight, but how about give me until the end of the week and we'll be on it? 00:17:00
Right. I would recommend not putting them on the website until you can add. 00:17:06
The context and the note. 00:17:10
But we we actually, I think having explanations about those things are much more important than the photos. 00:17:11
Yeah, I'll, I'll, I'll totally happy to send you an e-mail with a copy of it, right? Yeah, I probably need. 00:17:18
End of this week or or middle of next week's to get it online and because we probably wanna create its own like landing page on 00:17:23
there right Super that's really good and I think you're absolutely comments actually right this will help. 00:17:28
Uh, squash any, any, uh, rumors that are out there and I've heard all sorts of things as well. 00:17:33
And so this is really nice to all have some answers. 00:17:37
Thank you I I do wanna point out. 00:17:39
This is a helpful tool. 00:17:41
That is out there and I I guess I probably could've. 00:17:43
Used it and we'll see if I can find it. 00:17:45
Umm, but in the planning and zoning folder or part partial part of our website we do have. 00:17:48
This map right here. 00:17:53
And we do have. 00:17:55
This public story master plan map. And honestly, this might be a little on the outdated side because it's been a while since we've 00:17:56
done it. 00:17:59
Umm, but it's fairly similar to to what I just went over, where you can click on the different, uh. 00:18:02
Different sub, you know. Notes up here and it'll tell you. 00:18:08
So. 00:18:12
Yeah. 00:18:13
Oh that's cool telling me 3.25 units per acre and holdaway field to answer your question. 00:18:14
Perfect. 00:18:20
So umm, I'll work on updating this website too at some point too as well, but. 00:18:21
Yeah, great. That's super. And and knowing that's there and. 00:18:25
Publicizing that as well, that would be great for you. 00:18:29
Yeah, good idea. 00:18:31
So if you have cross links between your. 00:18:32
Oh yeah. 00:18:34
Yeah. The more I look at this more, the more I realize that that'll take. So yeah, that that's what part of development, things 00:18:35
change until we get very frequently. 00:18:38
Well, thank you very much. 00:18:43
OK, no others. 00:18:47
OK, umm. 00:18:49
One thing. 00:18:50
If I can ask. 00:18:52
How? 00:18:53
Much staff. 00:18:54
Is dedicated to. 00:18:55
GIS. 00:18:58
Who, who, Who would you classify as a GIS Technician 00? 00:18:58
So we, we, we do a contract work with Jones. 00:19:03
Uh, an associate. 00:19:06
They do phenomenal job. They're very fast. We'll put in a request, we'll have the math. 00:19:08
The next day. 00:19:12
And they're very, very affordable, but it makes a lot more sense to do that than to hire a GIS person at this point. I say that, 00:19:13
uh, because one of the things we did in. 00:19:18
Maricopa. 00:19:23
Arizona. It was a clear expansion. 00:19:23
It's great, yeah. 00:19:26
And there were so many rumors of I heard this is going on, I went to Costco, you know, all of those items. 00:19:27
And. 00:19:33
What we ended up doing every time there was. 00:19:33
An item before the Planning Commission. 00:19:37
Or an item that had. 00:19:40
Some kind of public hearing, that was. 00:19:41
Location base IEA development. 00:19:43
It went on Avis map and it had the dates right there. 00:19:46
When's the public hearing? 00:19:50
When was the action and what what action? 00:19:51
And then you'd be able to sort. Show me all approved. 00:19:53
Show me all pending. 00:19:56
And. 00:19:58
Stuff like that is. 00:19:59
So helpful with information sharing so you can get out ahead of the story. 00:20:01
Before, yeah, could could you, maybe if I e-mail you that, would you e-mail me just kind of a summary of that and I'd be totally 00:20:05
happy to dig into that and see what we could do. 00:20:08
I I will say that there are a few app maps that we do have that are. 00:20:12
That's a very up to up to date. Uh, for example, I have the business licensing one that that Kelly here. 00:20:16
Works with Justin on every time we get a new business license. I love the business license and so same thing you can you can 00:20:21
scroll in here and you wanna know oh, what's going on that you talked to me and you can see that there are. 00:20:25
You know. 00:20:29
A new restaurant popping up here soon. 00:20:30
Right. Or you can, uh. 00:20:32
Uh, you know, really anything, it's, it's a, it's a really neat tool and this is all public information. 00:20:34
Umm, if they submit an application, we put it on here and so you can see exactly what's going on. 00:20:39
Umm, and hopefully you know, caution your rumors that that you come up. 00:20:44
Wonderful. We did that in Napa with uh. 00:20:48
Wine tasting room licenses, you don't have that problem with the chair, but. 00:20:51
OK. Appreciate it. 00:20:56
Thank you. Yep. 00:20:58
Well, uh, go ahead and close that item. 00:20:59
So I. 00:21:01
Appreciate that work so much. 00:21:01
Umm, now item number 3 is public comment. 00:21:03
And so if there's any members of the public who have comments on any item that is not on. 00:21:06
Agenda Now is your time to share it. 00:21:11
Going once. 00:21:15
OK, seeing none, we'll move on to item 4, which is. 00:21:16
That item. 00:21:20
Which are the June 18th, 2025 Planning Commission meeting minutes. 00:21:21
Uh, do we have a motion to approve a minute? 00:21:25
All my promotions. 00:21:29
OK, we have a motion. Do we have a second? 00:21:30
A second OK, all in favor say aye. 00:21:31
Alright, alright. 00:21:34
Minutes passed unanimously. 00:21:36
Uh, we're now on to item number 5, which is our business. 00:21:38
Are our business items. 00:21:41
And, uh, we have a public hearing. 00:21:43
For transportation master plan and impact fee. 00:21:45
Uh, this public hearing was noticed. 00:21:48
Which is why it is on the agenda. 00:21:50
But staff, uh. 00:21:52
Would you like to share? 00:21:54
If there's any action needed tonight. 00:21:55
Anything. Excuse me, nothing here by the voice director. Uh, so we're recommending, uh, postponing this to the. 00:22:02
Uh, first Planning Commission in September. 00:22:10
Thank you. 00:22:13
So I understand that it was. 00:22:14
Uh, we moved to continue it to today's date because there were still some items that we needed to work out. 00:22:17
Umm, the items haven't been worked out yet, but since. 00:22:23
Forwarded it to today. We need to address it. 00:22:26
Do we feel confident? 00:22:29
It'll be ready by September. 00:22:31
Or should we just? 00:22:32
Dismiss it and we'll just need to notice it again and continue it to a future undetermined date of September. Uh, the aspect that 00:22:35
we're working on is on the financial pieces of it. 00:22:40
OK for everything, so all the technical. 00:22:46
OK. 00:22:48
Can you hear me better? 00:22:49
Sorry, no, it's good. 00:22:50
Umm, so. 00:22:52
Well, it it's recommended that it will be ready by September, so. 00:22:53
I will entertain a motion to continue this. 00:22:57
Well, it is a public hearing that was noticed, but we're gonna continue it. 00:23:00
So. 00:23:03
There won't be any. 00:23:04
Public discussion on it. We're gonna move it to a future date. 00:23:05
Uh, do we have a motion to continue it for the first meeting in September? 00:23:08
So that was my motion. Give me a second all in favor. 00:23:13
I see any post. 00:23:17
Alright. 00:23:19
That is. 00:23:20
Continued unanimously. 00:23:22
To the first meeting in September. 00:23:23
Alright, we're now at our work session. 00:23:25
So the first is the Blessed Vineyard. 00:23:28
Umm, unfortunately. 00:23:30
Umm, there must have been an issue. There wasn't a staff report. 00:23:32
I wanna make it clear is there any action? 00:23:35
That is requested. 00:23:38
OK, so this is purely a work session. 00:23:40
And so we'll hear a presentation. 00:23:42
Hi. 00:23:47
So I'll be presenting for the Blessed Vineyard project. Umm, it's. 00:23:48
A new initiative to landscape and amenitize. 00:23:53
The open space by the Lake Rock condo. 00:23:58
Umm, so this is an overview map of the total site. It only includes the open space. 00:24:01
That is addressed within this project. 00:24:08
So the southern boundary would be Sunset Beach Park and the northern boundary would be where 300 W connects to Vineyard Rd. 00:24:10
Umm, and it specifically discusses all of the lighter green areas because all of the darker green areas. 00:24:19
Are privately owned except for Sunset Beach Park. 00:24:27
So this. 00:24:32
Slide shows a picture of the. 00:24:33
Umm, user experience. 00:24:37
It includes. 00:24:39
A 13 acre parcel about. 00:24:40
Umm, and about half a mile of the. 00:24:43
Utah Lake Shoreline Trail. 00:24:46
Umm, and. 00:24:49
There are three existing covered picnic tables. 00:24:51
Umm, like the one on the graphic? 00:24:54
And there are three existing access points. 00:24:58
That are all. 00:25:02
On the southern portion of the site near Sunset Beach Park. 00:25:03
Umm, and at one of those access locations or access points is a temporary trash bin placed by city staff. 00:25:08
Umm and as I go through this. 00:25:16
Presentation. All of the graphics are not done to scale so that the sizing may not be accurate. 00:25:18
Umm. It was purely just. 00:25:25
For conceptualization. 00:25:27
And if we have any questions, just ask them as we go. 00:25:30
Umm, so I wanted to highlight a little bit of background for this project. 00:25:34
Umm, back in February, the redevelopment. 00:25:39
Agency umm. 00:25:42
Reviewed a settlement agreement between the city and the developer of. 00:25:44
That's right. 00:25:49
And they came to the decision that the city was going to take over the responsibility of this project. 00:25:50
And we are now allocating 900. 00:25:56
$1000 to remedy the landscaping and drainage. 00:25:59
Needs in the best side area. 00:26:03
Umm, specifically $825,000 of that will go into the drainage and landscaping improvements. 00:26:05
And the. 00:26:13
Ladder 75,000 will be put towards the amenities. 00:26:14
For the access point and the trip. 00:26:18
If I may. 00:26:22
Umm, just about that. 00:26:23
Umm, if this is a question better for the city attorney, you could say. 00:26:25
Can't answer that. That's for the city attorney. 00:26:28
Umm, are you allowed to give me any history of that? 00:26:30
Settlement. 00:26:34
Agreement and how it came to be. 00:26:34
Umm, I would refer you to other. 00:26:37
TCM or gymnastics? 00:26:40
The OK. 00:26:42
I'll have that done another time then. 00:26:43
Umm, so this slide kind of reviews the funding options that we have going on in the works right now. Obviously we're still 00:26:47
pursuing more funding options as. 00:26:51
Time goes on that this is what we have right now. 00:26:56
Umm, the information on the left side is all shared funds. 00:26:59
So it's not specifically for the Bluff project. 00:27:04
Umm, specifically the capital funds project. 00:27:07
Is for shade adventures throughout. 00:27:10
All of your. 00:27:12
Umm, that fund has about $25,000. 00:27:14
Allocated for those benches. 00:27:16
But that's not. 00:27:18
Again, specifically for the block. 00:27:19
So we can pull one or two benches off of that and the funding for them out of that fund. 00:27:21
But not all five of those benches are meant to exist. 00:27:26
In the blood type. 00:27:29
Umm, we also have received. 00:27:31
A CPR grant from the Utah Link authorities. 00:27:33
Umm, and that is another shared fund, so one of the amenities that will be covered under that grant. 00:27:36
Would be a bike repair station with an air pump falling somewhere. 00:27:43
Within the site umm that we can choose. 00:27:47
And then we also have. 00:27:50
A volleyball court. 00:27:52
Grant from Utah Lake Authority for $30,000. 00:27:54
Umm, this slide highlights. 00:27:59
All of the amenities but. 00:28:02
We have been discussing and that other commissions and committees have also been discussing. 00:28:04
Quite heavily. 00:28:09
Umm, the ones on the left are ones that. 00:28:11
The internal team. 00:28:14
Has heard a lot about and a lot of interest for it. 00:28:16
Umm, and the ones on the right are ones that we think would be super amazing to also include. 00:28:19
However, it may take a little bit more of a hit in the funding or may arrange other priorities. 00:28:25
Umm. The next couple of slides I'm gonna dive deeper into a couple of the amenities that I wanted to highlight. 00:28:33
Umm, I will start with the. 00:28:40
Stay in volleyball court so this picture is. 00:28:42
A draft. This is a concept only just. 00:28:45
To imagine it, umm, this is not construction drawings as is fine. 00:28:48
Whatsoever. 00:28:53
Umm, it is intended for the net to be oriented north-south and. 00:28:54
Umm has a. 00:28:59
Tennessee free zone around the corner for safety purposes of the people playing umm making sure footing and there's no. 00:29:02
Umm debris or anything in the way? The 2 blue dots would be the poles for the net and then. 00:29:10
The volleyball court falls inside of that. 00:29:16
Umm, on the right side you can just see a little bit more of the details. 00:29:19
For umm, some of the draft. 00:29:22
Of the court. 00:29:25
Development, but we haven't started construction or any of the application process. 00:29:26
I've got none of this is finalized. 00:29:31
This is the. 00:29:35
Proposed location. 00:29:36
As of now for this uh. 00:29:39
Sand volleyball court. 00:29:41
Umm, again, it's not just scale, so it may fit slightly differently. Umm, once it's put in. 00:29:43
But you can see where it's supposed to land next to the HOA clubhouse amenity area. 00:29:51
Umm, and you can also see the relationship where we covered pickle benches are. 00:29:56
Umm, I would like to highlight that all of those HOA amenities are private. 00:30:01
For the HOA specifically. 00:30:06
Just that community. 00:30:09
Umm, and they are gained in. 00:30:10
So there will be a little bit of separation. 00:30:12
Umm. 00:30:14
Trail that is closer to the condos is owned by the HOA. 00:30:15
So we would only be dealing with all of the land. 00:30:21
Umm, what's that? 00:30:23
The most recent update on the status of the idle court is that we were awarded the grant. 00:30:27
Umm, and we have to extend the deadline of the grant. 00:30:33
Because we are waiting on a permit with the state since it is. 00:30:35
Umm, we should receive the final permit on or before the end of September. 00:30:41
Umm, and in the meantime, we are looking. 00:30:46
Into funding that for other amenities and just getting finalized. 00:30:49
Pieces together from. 00:30:54
The process. 00:30:55
Umm. Now I'm gonna move on to review the access points that I discussed in the beginning. 00:30:58
Umm, this picture is blown up. 00:31:03
Closer down to Sunset Beach Park, so you can kind of see just the edge of it in the top right. 00:31:05
Umm. Again, this is not to scale, so these may be slightly off in location. 00:31:11
Umm, but there are three access. 00:31:16
The one that comes out directly underneath. 00:31:19
From that page part is the one that has the temporary trash can. 00:31:21
At the trail. 00:31:25
Umm, and these are all put in just from continual usage from people in the community. These are not put in from. 00:31:27
Any staff of the state, city or county? Umm, this is just people. 00:31:33
Following the most used path down to the lake. 00:31:39
Umm, what we would like to do with this discussion is talk about how we could amenitize. 00:31:42
These access points to make them a better benefit for the community and what things. 00:31:48
Prioritized in terms of identities, whether it be. 00:31:52
Trash can. 00:31:55
Benches, whatever the case may be, and to also consider additional access points in other places. 00:31:56
Umm. I would also like to highlight that I believe most of the access points have ended up on the southern. 00:32:04
End of the site because the slope on the northern end of the site is quite. 00:32:10
Drastic and so it would be a lot harder to get down there. 00:32:14
But. 00:32:17
City staff or whoever umm. 00:32:19
Had the approval for it. 00:32:21
We may be able to put in stairs and add additional access. 00:32:23
Forever. Just a normal time. 00:32:26
Umm, so this? 00:32:29
So I'm just gonna highlight some of the bench options that we've been reviewing. Obviously, it's just conceptual. 00:32:31
Umm, so you can see whether it would actually look like. 00:32:37
These aren't. 00:32:39
Specifically like materials or anything but just. 00:32:41
To kind of throw out the idea of. 00:32:44
Bunches picnic tables and on the top right so it was just like a ******. 00:32:46
Photo umm, sort of like opportunities that we can do this, spice it up and give it a little bit of. 00:32:51
Uh, Vineyard. 00:32:56
Life, umm and then these are benches. 00:32:57
To go up. 00:33:02
On the top of the block by the trail. 00:33:03
Umm, if you look at. 00:33:06
The, uh, really short. 00:33:07
Long umm photo on the bottom that called out all of the existing covered picnic benches. 00:33:10
And you can see a little bit of a close up on that left photo. 00:33:17
Umm. So just. 00:33:20
Keep in mind of what? 00:33:22
We currently have and what we could put in. 00:33:23
Umm, options are endless, but. 00:33:26
Obviously the. 00:33:28
More developed the anonymity is it may cost more so covered benches. 00:33:30
May cost more than uncovered. 00:33:35
Umm, and then we can take a pause here if we want to and discuss access points. 00:33:39
Umm, this. 00:33:44
Slide is just to kind of grow some ideas on the wall and have different. 00:33:46
Representations of what the opportunity could be. 00:33:51
Umm, what is the most similar to what we have right now would be that bottom left photo. 00:33:54
Where it's just a tiny little single track. You can't really see it. It's not very developed, it's just. 00:34:00
Kind of clear, umm, and then there's obviously different levels. 00:34:05
Of development, whether you want it more natural or what's the case maybe. 00:34:09
Umm, both of the photos on the right. 00:34:14
We would have to pursue a lot of approval. 00:34:16
And permits with. 00:34:19
The state. 00:34:20
So that may be a bit of a hold up, umm, in terms of. 00:34:21
Timing. 00:34:26
Umm, and getting everything. 00:34:27
To agreed. 00:34:29
But. 00:34:31
Yeah. So these were just kind of. 00:34:32
I guess. 00:34:34
3. 00:34:36
Since we're on like 12 or 15, let's finish, then we'll do questioning the lecture. 00:34:38
Sure. Umm, the next amenity I want to talk about our dog stations. 00:34:42
So, uh, we currently have 5 called out on that bottom. 00:34:46
Graphic Umm, I located those looking from so there may be more. 00:34:51
Umm, but I specifically wanted to. 00:34:58
Create this call. 00:35:00
To notice that. 00:35:01
All of the pre-existing dog stations are in that privately owned HOA area. 00:35:03
Umm. And so. 00:35:08
I just wanted to bring some of those amenities down for. 00:35:09
The public to enjoy. 00:35:13
Umm, so you can see a graphic on the top left of kind of what it would look like in the scene. 00:35:15
Umm, and then a pretty cute picture on the bottom right of a dodge. 00:35:20
Umm, and. 00:35:24
Has Watertown obviously that humans could use also for your pets that are out there. 00:35:25
Umm. And the information we wanna know about this is. 00:35:31
What location? 00:35:34
What would you guys wanna prioritize? 00:35:35
What other? 00:35:38
For your pet dog stations, whatever the case may be what you want, are there other ones that. 00:35:39
We're missing you. 00:35:45
Umm, And then we also have public restrooms. There are currently no public restrooms in the site right now. Umm, even by the HOA 00:35:47
clubhouse area, there's nothing there, umm. 00:35:53
But we have a proposed one in the graphic on the slide. 00:35:59
Right there. Umm. 00:36:02
And then the photos on the bottom, those are again just like info photos, umm to show you the different. 00:36:04
Varieties that you could go with. 00:36:10
Obviously the big one like the red and. 00:36:12
Would and everything will be more expensive than the other ones. 00:36:15
But it's really just where you want to prioritize your money. Do you want a nicer restroom over other amenities? 00:36:18
Umm, and they also offer. 00:36:24
Different things. So the white one has water fountains but only one stall. 00:36:26
The uh, red ones have more shade coverage and probably more stalls, and then the stereotypical campground ones, umm. 00:36:30
And there's obviously more designs and whatnot, but just to kind of throw out some of those. 00:36:38
Variety options. 00:36:43
And then I wanted to put. 00:36:47
Point O umm. 00:36:48
How to get to the bluff? 00:36:49
So currently there are two. 00:36:51
Umm areas I would like to highlight. So this one is by that Umm HOA clubhouse area. 00:36:53
Umm, all of the parking, the street parking on. 00:37:00
Outlined in the orange boxes. 00:37:04
Umm would be the public parking that people could use. Umm, that is. 00:37:06
Allocated specifically for public parking, not for residential. 00:37:10
And then the green would be the where you would walk to get to that. 00:37:14
Umm, you tell the shoreline trail. 00:37:19
And then the other access point or access area to get the blast would be down at Sunset Beach Park. 00:37:24
Umm, that one has a larger. 00:37:30
Parking lot that is again open to the public and then there are two. 00:37:32
Have to walk into the trail. 00:37:37
Umm, this slide just highlights the next steps that we will be taking within the near future. 00:37:41
Umm, we would like to invite anybody and all people to come to join a bike ride with the Active Transportation Commission. 00:37:46
Umm, this will be reviewing the life at Vineyard as. 00:37:55
A site visit. 00:37:59
And at the end of the bike ride, it will end with a town hall to collaborate on these amenities and ideas that we discussed 00:38:00
tonight. 00:38:05
Umm and at the next ATC meeting and just kind of have a collaborative conversation about. 00:38:10
What the community really wants. 00:38:16
And more logistical information on this will be coming soon as we get the date set. 00:38:18
Next week umm I will be presenting at an ATC meeting on Tuesday giving. 00:38:24
A similar presentation tonight. Umm, just a little bit more focused on. 00:38:29
Active transportation. 00:38:33
Umm, so you're more than welcome to come and join that conversation as well. 00:38:35
And then following all the feedback that I get from both the public meetings. 00:38:39
As well as the bike ride and town hall. 00:38:42
Umm, concepts will be adjusted. 00:38:44
And amenities and. 00:38:48
The push forward will be adjusted. 00:38:49
Umm, yeah. 00:38:52
So that's my presentation. 00:38:53
OK. Thank you so much. 00:38:55
Umm, first any. 00:38:57
Yeah, just a couple of questions. 00:39:02
We know that there's one garbage can out there. 00:39:05
Currently. 00:39:08
Umm. 00:39:09
And as proposed. 00:39:11
The dog stations. 00:39:13
And as well as. 00:39:16
A bathroom? I was just wondering about the protocol right now. Uh, how often do they? 00:39:18
Coverage account. 00:39:23
Uh, how often would the doc stations? 00:39:25
And Crown. 00:39:27
And then, uh. 00:39:30
The routine. The bathroom. 00:39:31
Uh, how does that work? 00:39:34
Yeah, umm. 00:39:37
Typing on I think. 00:39:38
With all of those, just the overall. 00:39:40
But this is state land. 00:39:42
But the city is involved. 00:39:44
Who has maintenance? 00:39:46
Responsibilities which would include all of those items plus other maintenance. 00:39:47
Right. 00:39:51
So yeah, it is state land. Umm. 00:39:52
So it has been needing to be. 00:39:54
Maintained by the state. 00:39:57
Umm, but they have been. 00:39:59
Thinking to us for our goodwill to go out there and take care of some of the weeds sometimes, umm. 00:40:01
So we have been keeping up with the maintenance as of now and once we put in all of this, we would again be in charge of that 00:40:07
maintenance. 00:40:11
If we aren't. 00:40:16
Charge and I think we. 00:40:17
The city, we're in charge of that maintenance. 00:40:19
Does that also make us liable in case? 00:40:22
Any issue occurs yeah. So this other thing, uh. 00:40:25
Some of the restructured things here, umm. 00:40:28
So and part of this, what we would do is when we follow our permits with the state and the state does the approvals will enter 00:40:29
into a maintenance agreement. 00:40:33
Uh, with the state. 00:40:37
Uh, in terms of. 00:40:38
Uh, allowing those items to be. 00:40:39
Uh, on face. 00:40:42
Land with the condition that they're being maintained. 00:40:43
Uh, properly and so forth And if any. 00:40:46
Liability does generally probably a liability waiver there and well, I understand and that's the stage, uh, does not do, uh, does 00:40:49
not address those maintenance issues. And the state also has the right to go in there and remove any kind of safety issues 00:40:54
themselves. 00:40:58
In terms of. 00:41:02
Uh, frequency and so forth about dog stations and trash cans. Our parking team does a great job. 00:41:04
Uh, going by with on a schedule? 00:41:09
Uh, they would probably, uh, typically they would do, uh, one week schedule. 00:41:11
Obviously it it fluctuates depending on the season. 00:41:15
And depend on the locations though. 00:41:18
They would provide this to their schedule item to check for trash. 00:41:19
Dock Station. 00:41:23
And fluctuate that, uh, there. 00:41:24
Uh, frequency of, uh, emptying it out based on. 00:41:27
No, alright. 00:41:30
OK, cool. So yeah, I guess this is up. 00:41:34
For the better to be determined. But uh, what would be? 00:41:36
A question got some. 00:41:39
Umm, yeah, it would. 00:41:44
Depend on the funding. Umm, because we do only have that 75. 00:41:45
Grand umm to. 00:41:50
Divide up amongst all of these amenities. 00:41:52
Umm, so if we wanted to go a little bit nicer with the bathrooms, let me take a hit on some of the other amenities that we would 00:41:54
want to put in. 00:41:58
And by two cents. 00:42:10
Turn on your back. Oh, it is done. OK here. 00:42:12
0 OK. 00:42:14
First of all, the volleyball court. 00:42:15
Umm, the funding obviously is only for course. 00:42:18
Umm, the city putting any funds in that? 00:42:23
Umm, we're actually discussing the funding right now. Umm, we are realizing that it is a little bit more expensive than. 00:42:27
30 grand in a volleyball court for design and build. 00:42:35
Umm, so we are actually putting. 00:42:39
The design and everything on pause while we find more funding sources. 00:42:42
Umm, that was also another topic of conversation I've had with a couple of other staff. Umm. 00:42:46
Was that there was interest for a second volleyball court? 00:42:52
Umm, and so that was discussion as well as if we do would make it cheaper. Umm. 00:42:56
Which we still can do, but it would. 00:43:00
Not fall within that 75. 00:43:03
$1000 for. 00:43:05
Umm, but we are still working on securing. 00:43:08
More funding? 00:43:10
OK, umm. 00:43:11
Are there alternate locations? Does it have to be in that bluff area? 00:43:14
And and let me tell you. 00:43:18
Why I asked that? 00:43:20
Question. 00:43:21
Umm. 00:43:23
Sunset Beach Park. 00:43:28
If if you have two people. 00:43:33
It's a sand pill. 00:43:37
You can three or four or five or six or seven or. 00:43:39
3rd can also come play. 00:43:44
That's a strong hit. 00:43:46
But the volleyball court? 00:43:49
If you have. 00:43:51
Two people there. 00:43:51
That's all you can. 00:43:53
They take up the whole port. 00:43:55
Which means someone else. 00:43:57
Comes and wants to play volleyball. 00:43:59
The workout? Some kind of deal or arrangement? 00:44:01
Umm. 00:44:06
Sell that. 00:44:08
Uh-huh. 00:44:11
That hits. 00:44:12
To the number of folks that can actually use that amenity. 00:44:15
The second thing, I have a. 00:44:20
I don't I have a question about the location. 00:44:22
Which ties into the first question. 00:44:25
Is it possible? 00:44:28
To change the location. 00:44:31
To a spot. 00:44:33
That is, has more access and more visibility. 00:44:34
To more of the city residents. 00:44:39
And. 00:44:42
I'm going to get in trouble. 00:44:45
We're saying this. 00:44:48
Bye. 00:44:49
Being in front of the condo. 00:44:51
My thoughts are that that's. 00:44:55
Kind of going to be. 00:45:00
Take them up. 00:45:02
By folks in the. 00:45:03
And other residents of the city. 00:45:05
May not have as much access to it. 00:45:08
Ability to use it. 00:45:10
Like I put some. 00:45:13
Other place. 00:45:14
For instance, sunset. 00:45:16
Part of grassy area. 00:45:18
It would be. 00:45:21
Have more access and visibility. 00:45:23
Some more residents of the city. 00:45:26
Or even if it was. 00:45:29
I guess maybe the northern end? 00:45:41
Upper class, umm yeah. So we can definitely have about moving in. Obviously the northern edge does get a little more narrow 00:45:46
between. 00:45:51
The trail, so that would be the only pain there and the southern pen. 00:45:56
Umm, would depend on clip and. 00:46:02
The things that are taking out, not the last digits. 00:46:05
Uh, they seem pretty hesitant on anything on the left. 00:46:10
Of that trail, so it would probably be. 00:46:14
I'm sorry, what was that? 00:46:17
About the length of the trail. 00:46:20
Umm, the state is pretty hesitant about putting up. 00:46:22
Staying considered permanent development. 00:46:25
Umm, West of the trail. 00:46:28
So that would probably leave us to want to put the volleyball courts on top of the blush and the more flat area. 00:46:30
Umm, we're open to discussion. We have put in an application with the state for this particular. 00:46:37
Location, umm, But if we feel that we want to move it around, we're we're open to that. 00:46:44
OK. I have a question. Is the grant that we received approval for already? 00:46:51
For this particular location? Or was it just granted to the city but somewhere in the city? 00:46:56
And it was granted to the city for. 00:47:01
A volleyball court. 00:47:04
Umm, I don't. 00:47:05
No, if it was specified for the bluff area or anyone. 00:47:06
I can't go and. 00:47:13
Out to specific since I don't have uh, the specifics. Uh, it was the grant is provided by Utahler Authority. 00:47:14
Uh, so therefore it would be uh. 00:47:20
And on the condition that is. 00:47:22
By the way, can I also open to the public? 00:47:24
Uh with uh and F. 00:47:26
Answering for the public. Wonderful. OK, love you. 00:47:28
Stating that the grant was from the Utah Lake Authority. 00:47:31
So with that. 00:47:33
It should be tied somehow to lake Recreation makes a lot of time. 00:47:35
But we, well, we walked out, so long as you're open to a volleyball court in front of your house for the public as well. 00:47:39
I would love that. 00:47:44
Now what? What I live at. 00:47:45
One one thing I do want to add about this location, umm the, the convenience of it is those two trails that kind of go east. 00:47:47
From the volleyball court. 00:47:53
Those are public access. 00:47:55
Easements that the city. 00:47:56
Has the right for for public access to go through the the community and then there is parking just on the other side of that. 00:47:58
Along 300 W. 00:48:04
Umm. And so it does provide that. 00:48:06
Parking and access, where if we put it further north, that would be a little bit more challenging, but. 00:48:08
Umm definitely doesn't stop that from because. 00:48:13
Yeah, umm, doesn't stop that that from happening. We could look at at price for the North as well. 00:48:16
OK. 00:48:21
Umm, so. 00:48:22
Who would manage this? 00:48:23
What is the Parks and Recreation? 00:48:25
Yes. 00:48:29
I would like some sort of reservation system. 00:48:33
Umm, it does have to be open. 00:48:38
Yeah. So it does have to be open to the public with it being on state lands and the grant from. 00:48:41
So you tell the authority it does have to be public, so. 00:48:46
And cares all about. 00:48:49
Setting up any reservation systems or anything because. 00:48:51
It has to be available for Outlook. 00:48:54
Well, yeah. 00:48:57
Umm. 00:48:57
And we I I can discuss that program. 00:49:00
Uh, dog stations. 00:49:04
Uh, on the trial. 00:49:07
You're talking about putting some more. 00:49:11
They would be closer to the trail. 00:49:17
Page 5. Mm-hmm. 00:49:21
Never mind, Sir. OK. 00:49:23
Uh. 00:49:25
Do we have an idea of how many? 00:49:28
No. 00:49:30
Umm, this is to get an idea of what. 00:49:31
Interest you have in it. 00:49:33
So there. 00:49:35
That's open right now. 00:49:36
And bike station, same thing. 00:49:38
Personally, I would like it on the northern side because there's already one at Sunset Beach Park, so there's. 00:49:44
Part of my two cents. 00:49:49
Umm, access point? 00:49:52
We have an. 00:49:55
We haven't discussed. 00:49:56
Specifically. 00:49:58
Or and even real general. 00:49:59
Uh, terms about what they'll look like? 00:50:03
OK. 00:50:07
Saved or natural? 00:50:10
Umm. 00:50:12
I believe it will have to be natural. 00:50:13
Umm, natural dirt. Just because. 00:50:16
Umm, the state doesn't want. 00:50:19
Hardscape as they see it more permanent, umm, material, so it would probably be better in dirt. 00:50:21
OK. 00:50:28
Because my preference. 00:50:30
Personally, would be the key to this matchable as possible. 00:50:32
Uh, I was thinking no. 00:50:36
Location specific. 00:50:39
No specific locations for. 00:50:41
Bathrooms, yeah. 00:50:43
No that I wanted to get an idea of what. 00:50:45
One before we. 00:50:48
And I guess the water fountains. 00:50:50
For the the dogs and. 00:50:52
They can talk about signage. What kind of signage do we? 00:50:55
You're referring to. 00:50:58
Umm, we would be following the signage that is going in, uh, Vineyard Beach Park. 00:51:00
I believe they're gonna be following the wayfinding. 00:51:05
It would be Wayfinder. 00:51:08
Mm-hmm. OK. 00:51:10
Alright. 00:51:12
Uh, and the the other options. 00:51:14
Talking about an outdoor gym or bird watching? 00:51:16
Like that and the mountain call outs and plaque. 00:51:20
First one we don't like. 00:51:26
That area for disc golf? 00:51:27
Uh, benches. 00:51:30
The West side of the trail. 00:51:35
On the east side. 00:51:38
I believe. 00:51:40
That if you don't put a concrete pad underneath them, we would have a better chance of putting them on the West side of the trail 00:51:41
than the east side. 00:51:46
Umm, but we would just need approval from the state. 00:51:50
OK. 00:51:53
Alright. 00:51:56
I will thank you very much. 00:51:57
Umm, there wasn't a single thing on this list. 00:52:00
That I thought was. 00:52:04
A bad idea? 00:52:05
What I am concerned? 00:52:06
About. 00:52:08
Is that there's so many good ideas. 00:52:09
That will say. 00:52:10
Here's the dollar. 00:52:12
Come up with. 00:52:13
So many ideas that cost. 00:52:14
So much more than that. 00:52:15
Mm-hmm. Umm. 00:52:17
One of the things. 00:52:18
That the Napa Valley Vine Trail did. 00:52:19
And I highly encourage you to Google Napa Valley Vine Trail. 00:52:22
It was. 00:52:25
A third party. 00:52:26
Non profit organization. 00:52:28
That fundraise? 00:52:30
To get a separate walking and bike trail that went across the entire Napa Valley. It's gorgeous and beautiful. 00:52:32
And they took so many donations because. 00:52:38
Different. So expensive. 00:52:40
But they did it right. 00:52:42
By doing that. 00:52:44
Umm, I totally understand we have this opportunity for a grant. 00:52:45
We have this opportunity to. 00:52:49
Something is better than nothing and I agree, I'd love to do. 00:52:52
Something here? 00:52:54
But by having all these ideas with programming, it's just making me see the potential of what it could be, and Vineyard could be a 00:52:56
little start of something really cool. 00:53:01
Of that trail that goes all around the link. 00:53:06
Uh, what Napa does. 00:53:08
Every mile on this 14 mile trail. 00:53:10
There is an educational plaque saying that you know about the Native Americans that lives here in Napa. Did you know about the 00:53:13
Bittners that lived here? Do you want? Do you know the history of these? 00:53:17
Having that story. 00:53:22
And then every up. 00:53:23
The bike working stations in order to repair your bike. You see all of these. 00:53:25
Little metal footprints. 00:53:30
With people's names on it. 00:53:32
They paid for that. 00:53:34
And that's how they pay for the entire. 00:53:35
I would love for some organization. 00:53:38
To come and take this off the city's hand. 00:53:41
And. 00:53:44
Do this because I think we could have a lot of passion. 00:53:45
Behind a project like this from our community. 00:53:50
And we do live in a very general area. 00:53:53
Umm, I think there's lots of potential here to do more than just add a Venture 2 in the trash can or two. 00:53:56
But add. 00:54:01
Almost all of the things that are there. 00:54:03
Uh, I I have to say I. 00:54:05
I really like that idea. 00:54:07
At least. 00:54:10
Or a portion of the funding, if not for all the funding. 00:54:13
The larger the portion, the better. 00:54:17
Donations. 00:54:19
And contributions and. 00:54:21
Umm, in both of them. 00:54:24
As much as physicians. 00:54:25
Love that idea, and some of that might be most appropriate to talk about during. 00:54:27
Uh, umm, upcoming town hall and. 00:54:32
Hey Tech, uh, meeting. 00:54:35
Umm. 00:54:37
Very quick. 00:54:39
Questions about volleyball, Being an avid volleyball player and loving volleyball. 00:54:40
Hate the idea? 00:54:45
Of the court, we'll be looking at the fund except for three hours. 00:54:47
Out of today, that's my only thing about questioning. 00:54:50
The location. 00:54:53
I get it. There's something. 00:54:54
Thank you. Go there, there's a lot of nothing. 00:54:55
Right there in volleyball could make sense. 00:54:57
But when it's facing east and West as a player. 00:54:59
Setting the ball. 00:55:03
Looking at the sun. 00:55:04
To hurt the retina. 00:55:05
Umm. 00:55:06
Maintenance. 00:55:07
That's all got answered for me. 00:55:08
Umm, big concern about. 00:55:11
Taking on the liability. 00:55:14
For it. 00:55:15
Umm, because the more cool things we have. 00:55:16
The more cool people who will be there and the more cool entries. 00:55:19
That could occur. 00:55:23
Umm. And so I just wanna make sure the city knows what they're getting into and is prepared to have the. 00:55:24
Necessary up there. 00:55:30
Uh, particularly when it comes to access to the water. 00:55:32
Oh, I'm fun at parties. 00:55:36
OK. 00:55:38
Are there? 00:55:40
Uh, members of the public, but. 00:55:42
Sometimes. 00:55:43
Come on. 00:55:44
David Lloyd resident. 00:55:53
Umm, it's quite interesting. Umm, first of all. 00:55:55
I need some clarification. Could we go to that slide where we're showing an overview of the? 00:55:58
Overall. 00:56:01
Color-coded. 00:56:03
Things We see the water and then there's this. 00:56:04
All that covered area that we're considering, Yeah, well, that's good. 00:56:06
Umm, so. 00:56:10
And I understand. 00:56:11
But everything is olive colored in that. 00:56:13
Uh, going to state land? 00:56:15
Is that correct? 00:56:18
If it's that yellow. 00:56:19
Yeah, that that. Yeah, that's all. 00:56:21
OK, my understanding is that the state. 00:56:24
Owns the uh land under the lake and and as a compromise. 00:56:26
Uh, compromise. 00:56:30
Elevation a little bit. 00:56:32
The the area around the lake where that compromise point is. 00:56:34
Is well below that. In fact, I'm looking at the at the line where. 00:56:37
We see the line is with the with the long line there. 00:56:41
It's about. 00:56:43
Where the the the land would be? So I'm curious as to why that state land. 00:56:45
Uh, and not and not private land. 00:56:51
And to go through the South from. 00:56:54
Sunset Park, you'll see that that that that park area is the city land address and it's. 00:56:56
Down over the Cliff. 00:57:00
Where the where the uh. 00:57:02
It was a state land and this you're talking here above the Cliff. 00:57:04
It seems to me that that's the case. It would. It would be City Lab. 00:57:07
Uh, so that's one thing I'd be, I'd be really clear. I'll be really clear. That really is state land. 00:57:11
Umm, because my understanding is it wouldn't be. 00:57:17
So just. 00:57:20
We should check. 00:57:21
Second of all. 00:57:23
Umm umm. 00:57:24
Has has any, has there any, any focus groups been done about this or have we consulted with any of the residents that live nearby 00:57:25
about any of these things? 00:57:29
We have not started Umm. That is the purpose of these work sessions. This is the first of many. 00:57:33
Mm-hmm. 00:57:39
Yeah, great. So I so I agree with the things, you know, I. 00:57:40
Umm, yesterday. This place is interesting. Umm. 00:57:43
Uh, I've been coming to. 00:57:45
To, uh, Planning Commission meetings for a long time. 00:57:47
Just remember you're a fixture, usually so. 00:57:49
Uh, I've been, I've been more in the past than I have recently, but but still. 00:57:52
Uh, I remember when this, uh, the lakefront. 00:57:55
How they first came in with the initial? 00:57:57
PLA plan and so forth and. 00:58:00
And whatnot. And uh, and I saw what end, what ended up being approved and so forth. 00:58:01
And you know, initially they were, uh, the parking on the street where we have now, the city parking was counted as far as the 00:58:06
parking went. 00:58:10
For that that development. 00:58:14
And then somehow, somewhere along the line that got changed just now. 00:58:15
Uh, public parking and not, uh. 00:58:19
And I. 00:58:21
Controversy about that. I get that. 00:58:22
But, uh, and that the whole thing is that we've, uh. 00:58:24
That place is really red. 00:58:27
But under parked, this is a very narrow strip of land, and it just seems like it might be ideal for a way to help alleviate some 00:58:29
of the parking problems they're having there. 00:58:33
Umm, so. 00:58:39
And I know that's not an amenity per SE, but. 00:58:39
The fact is that I'm sure a lot of the people there were greatly welcome. 00:58:42
Uh, not having to walk 1/4 of a mile after they parked the car. 00:58:46
To come back to where they live. 00:58:50
So just a thought. I understand that's not, uh, probably what you guys want to hear. 00:58:52
But that's, uh. But that would be. 00:58:56
Great thing for the city to do in return for the public parking they stole from the official plan. 00:58:57
So just a thought. 00:59:02
Umm, so at least. 00:59:05
And and and at least uh. 00:59:07
I know you have a whole bunch of things you wanna do and, and so I guess and you, you trust the residents. 00:59:09
Uh, I hope you have a little brainstorming session to allow them to make suggestions. Well, just pick the thing here on our list 00:59:14
that you want. 00:59:17
That would that would be very, uh, unfortunate. Is that where? 00:59:21
No limitation here. 00:59:24
Grandpa still have a lot of good ideas. 00:59:25
Uh, beyond this even. 00:59:27
So those those are my thoughts. Thank you. 00:59:29
Thank you. 00:59:32
Anyone else? 00:59:34
We'll do Daria and then gentlemen in the back. 00:59:36
Daria Evans, been your resident. 00:59:42
I just have a. 00:59:44
Quick question about. 00:59:45
The South end at Sunset Beach. 00:59:46
Part that last. 00:59:49
Section of condos. 00:59:51
It drops off down. 00:59:53
Really steep. 00:59:54
How are are they going to landscape that with some type of vegetation and not lawn? 00:59:56
Because. 01:00:03
The drainage. 01:00:04
It's bad. Do you have any idea what kind of plans for that? 01:00:05
Yeah, umm, so our public works department is actually taking on the landscaping and the drainage requirements. 01:00:10
To me, uh and for. 01:00:17
Umm, requirements and. 01:00:19
All of that, I would refer you to, yeah, I mean. 01:00:22
Uh, well, having specific specific. 01:00:26
You don't have specific address on that specific error on that area. 01:00:28
But uh. 01:00:31
When it comes to the weekend. 01:00:32
Please go and go for it. What do you want to do? If you want to put something in there that. 01:00:33
Is going to help establish the flow. Umm, you know, provide. 01:00:37
Yeah. Uh, would you say erosion? 01:00:40
And then of course, when it comes to maintaining. 01:00:42
He's close to, you know, in Guam when I live there. 01:00:44
My background has very spoken. 01:00:47
And the military and living on family house and military said I had to know it anyway. And, uh. 01:00:50
It was a very uh. 01:00:54
Tricky situation with a long war in a rope. 01:00:56
I don't, I don't ever, uh, wish to have any of my uh. 01:00:58
And any of our guys with? 01:01:01
Uh, we do have a great uh. 01:01:03
Uh, Mark David team and Park's team, uh, like honestly our and. 01:01:05
I'm confident that what they said in there is going to look nice, but to be. 01:01:10
Easily maintain. 01:01:13
And provide for like, you know, provide for like the quality, like everyone. 01:01:14
Thank you. 01:01:18
Thank you. Thank you. 01:01:19
Right. 01:01:21
Hi, umm, I'm Josh Hunt. 01:01:27
I am a resident. 01:01:29
At Bigfoot and so. 01:01:30
I'm thrilled that the city is doing something about this land finally, because I'm. 01:01:32
Kind of done looking at all of the weed. 01:01:36
But umm. 01:01:38
I just, I'm, I'm very happy that the city is looking into this. 01:01:39
Umm, I'm happy about the volleyball court, personally. 01:01:43
Umm, I do know that whatever the city puts here will be very popular. 01:01:46
So it's a busy section of the trail. So I think that's just kind of the name of the game. If you put something in here, that's 01:01:50
probably a good argument for a second volleyball court. 01:01:55
Umm, so I know that whatever they put in will be very popular. 01:01:59
Umm, I know what the southern end of. 01:02:03
This section of land near Sunset Beach Park, there's kind of a. 01:02:06
Umm, where the townhomes and condos are. Umm. 01:02:12
It was like a part of the light that opens up. I know a lot of. 01:02:15
Like I see. 01:02:18
Laying there all the time, a lot of them like. 01:02:19
One there, umm, I've seen people fishing out there before umm, so that. 01:02:21
Be a good spot for the city to look at to kind of add amenities, add some benches. 01:02:26
Umm, some friends and I have attempted to, uh. 01:02:31
Like pick up garbage and stuff along the Lake Shore and the bluff. 01:02:35
Kind of just in the middle section. It's really hard to access the focus. 01:02:39
So I don't know if we're in. 01:02:44
If the city wants to get access to that part of the shoreline, but that's just another thing that I've experienced. 01:02:45
Using this area but. 01:02:51
Umm, anyways, I'm trying to think if I have any other thoughts on this but. 01:02:54
I'm just really happy that the city is putting something in. 01:02:58
I know that there's. 01:03:00
Parking on 300 W. 01:03:01
Umm, I've never seen that parking full, at least during the day so. 01:03:03
I know that. 01:03:08
By like the pick of our courts. 01:03:09
Umm, where this proposed volleyball court is. 01:03:11
Umm, I know that that area does have parking available. I don't know. 01:03:14
Us. I don't know how. 01:03:20
Disney, that area would get us. There's volleyball courts that would go in there, but. 01:03:22
I do know that those sections, at least during the day, are review. 01:03:26
So that's just. 01:03:28
Some feedback that I have as. 01:03:30
A resident of. 01:03:33
Anyway, thank you. 01:03:34
OK. 01:03:37
Is that everything? 01:03:40
Alright, well, close public comment. 01:03:42
Well, I want to. 01:03:44
Uh, reiterate. 01:03:45
Is we have some strong opinions here? 01:03:47
Attend the APAC. 01:03:49
And attend the bike ride. 01:03:51
And attend that town hall. 01:03:52
Uh, I feel the more that you can express. 01:03:54
Your opinion that multiple workshops the body? 01:03:57
The more likely that it will be integrated into whatever final decision is made. 01:04:00
So that would just be something that I encourage everyone to do. 01:04:04
UH-1 request. 01:04:08
I have uh, prior to the next meeting. If it's August 12th, umm, get some. 01:04:10
Pictures of the area go out with the phone and add those into it. Uh, while the renderings are awesome, nothing can compete with 01:04:15
the real thing. 01:04:18
So recommend that. 01:04:22
Uh, thank you. 01:04:25
Alright. 01:04:27
That takes us to our. 01:04:29
Next. 01:04:32
Item. 01:04:32
Uh, which is what I'm sure everyone came for. Umm, item 6. 01:04:34
An update city ordinances and zoning map. 01:04:37
Uh, regarding massage establishment. 01:04:40
And textually oriented businesses. 01:04:42
Just taking that one. Hello, it's me. I'm Kelly Klepper. I'm the business license. 01:04:46
Specialist. 01:04:51
And forgive me. 01:04:52
Haven't done this in a while, That's not it. 01:04:53
OK. 01:04:58
Just take a minute so. 01:05:00
But real quick as a reminder. 01:05:01
No, I shouldn't need it tonight. This is a workshop. 01:05:03
Yeah. 01:05:05
Unplug it and then. 01:05:07
Per minute. 01:05:12
Yeah, I haven't done this. 01:05:16
Been quite a while. 01:05:17
Here we go. 01:05:19
Bye bye and down here. 01:05:26
And then the maximize this. 01:05:28
OK. 01:05:32
OK, great. Here we are. 01:05:37
OK, so the city attorney, Jamie Blakely, he has asked me to. 01:05:39
Give you an introduction tonight. He is. 01:05:44
Currently working on. 01:05:46
Uh, draft amendment. 01:05:48
For both massage establishment. 01:05:50
And sexually oriented businesses. 01:05:52
And just to give you kind of a brief overview as we are beginning this process. 01:05:55
Umm, we do currently in the municipal code. 01:06:00
Address massage establishments. But it's very antiquated, very basic. 01:06:03
Code, it's really, it's inadequate and we want to umm. 01:06:08
Get that updated. 01:06:13
And. 01:06:14
Mr. Blakesley is also recommending that we amend the zoning code with that so. 01:06:15
I'm waiting to see what he brings. 01:06:20
Umm for his draft, so he's currently working on that. 01:06:23
Umm, and then for the sexually oriented. 01:06:28
Uh, we. 01:06:31
It's currently we don't address it at all in the municipal code yet. So we that is one thing he's working on. 01:06:34
And in the zoning code, we have it defined in definition. 01:06:41
Uh, but that's. 01:06:46
Pretty much it, and the district use table does allow it. 01:06:49
And does allow this use in the manufacturing zone. It's a conditional use. 01:06:52
That is all that we have on it right now, so. 01:06:57
Uh, but he again, he wants. 01:07:00
To potentially make. 01:07:02
A change to the zoning with that? 01:07:05
I'm waiting to see you know what what she wants to. 01:07:08
To suggest to the city. 01:07:10
So, umm. 01:07:12
Cities cannot outright prohibit this use. 01:07:14
We have to provide a space for it somewhere. 01:07:17
And are you familiar with us? If you'd like, I can. 01:07:20
Pull this up and. 01:07:23
The manufacturing zone is just that, Gray. 01:07:26
Area in the top of the city. 01:07:30
So right here. 01:07:32
So that is where it's currently a conditional use. That's the only spot in the city right now. 01:07:35
So, OK, how do I get back? There we are. 01:07:42
Uh and yeah. 01:07:44
So that is. 01:07:47
That so the next steps really this is just the the very preliminary introduction of this. 01:07:48
Of these uh, dress amendments. 01:07:53
Uh, we are hoping, I anticipate that the next Planning Commission meeting I will have. 01:07:56
Umm, some drafts and then next to. 01:08:00
To present to you. 01:08:03
So. 01:08:04
Any questions or comments? 01:08:06
As we begin this process. 01:08:09
No, thank you for doing that. Umm, everyone's favorite topic. I I think that. 01:08:10
Zoning. 01:08:15
It makes perfect sense. 01:08:16
Uh, for it. That's what most communities do, frankly. That's why they're always by airports. 01:08:17
Umm, or the city of Linden is gonna love us but. 01:08:22
Uh, I I would just hope we also throw in UMM within the use. 01:08:27
That it it's not a. 01:08:32
I'm sure it's a conditional use. 01:08:34
Within that, right. OK, umm, and it has to be. 01:08:36
X number of. 01:08:39
Feet away from anything that could have a person, place, or thing so. 01:08:41
That makes sense to me. 01:08:46
Do you either? Do you have any? 01:08:49
OK. 01:08:52
Umm. 01:08:54
So it's real. Looking forward to the next meeting. 01:08:55
OK. Thank you. 01:08:59
Thanks. 01:09:00
Umm, did anyone come here with? 01:09:01
Things they wanted to share about. 01:09:03
That's coming, OK. 01:09:05
Alright. 01:09:07
Uh, with that, we're now at staff and Commission reports. 01:09:08
Uh, fact? Do you have anything? 01:09:12
What's reporting on? 01:09:14
Anthony does. 01:09:19
Yeah, umm, thank you very much. 01:09:20
Here, uh, I would like to invite you to the next. 01:09:22
ATC meeting. 01:09:25
5:30. 01:09:26
Uh, August 12 on Tuesday. 01:09:27
And there's gonna be a lot to talk about. 01:09:30
Which will be fun. 01:09:32
Would expand on the. 01:09:34
The block is gonna happen right here. 01:09:35
5:30. 01:09:37
Yes. 01:09:38
OK. 01:09:40
Thank you. 01:09:41
Or something else? 01:09:47
Umm. 01:09:48
Anything else, Steph? 01:09:51
OK, uh. 01:09:54
That is the book Anything. 01:09:55
No, OK. 01:09:59
Umm, I do wanna. 01:10:00
Just take a little bit of time. 01:10:02
Umm. 01:10:04
This is hard for me to say, but. 01:10:06
I want to express. 01:10:07
Pretty deep disappointment. 01:10:09
Regarding our attendance this evening, uh, for the past several weeks. 01:10:10
We have serious discussions about the importance of attendance. 01:10:14
On punctuality. 01:10:18
And this is particularly true during even our last meeting. 01:10:20
But not one Commissioner indicated to that. 01:10:23
That they would not be here tonight. 01:10:25
And yet. 01:10:28
He barely made a quorum. 01:10:29
This is not just about procedures. Some of us rearrange work schedule. 01:10:31
Step away from our family. 01:10:35
Some get babysitters. 01:10:37
No personal sacrifices to be here. 01:10:38
And it's frustrating and frankly, unfair to everyone who shows up. 01:10:40
And ready to serve. 01:10:43
So this Commission is a commitment. 01:10:44
To each other, to the applicants. 01:10:46
The public we represent. 01:10:48
Uh, I expect better. 01:10:49
And I think we owe our community better. 01:10:51
So just wanna. 01:10:53
Make it known that I'm gonna be following up accordingly. 01:10:55
Alright, that's all I wanted to say. 01:10:58
And. 01:11:00
With that, come right into your. 01:11:01
You good? 01:11:04
Alright, adjourn. 01:11:05
So. 01:11:06