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  • Call to Order/Invocation/Inspirational Thought/Pledge of Allegiance   Chair Nathan Steele called the meeting to order at00pm. Commissioner Graden Ostler led the invocation and the pledge of allegiance.  Presentations/Recognitions/Awards/Proclamations   There were no presentations.  
  • Public Comments PC   Commissioner Brad Fagg entered at01pm.   There were no comments.  
  • Consent Items  1.Approval of the Augustth,25 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes
  • Motion: COMMISSIONER NATALIE HARBIN MOTIONED TO APPROVE THE AUGUSTTH,25 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES AT02PM. COMMISSIONER DAVID PEARCE SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR VOTED YES: HARBIN, PEARCE, STEELE, OSTLER, RHOTON, AND FAGG. THE VOTE CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.  
  • Business Items  2.
  • PUBLIC HEARING: Transportation Master Plan
  • Assistant City Engineer Patrick James introduced the applicant.
  • Josh Gibbons, with Hales Engineering, highlighted the purpose, discussed included policies, and introduced concepts.
  • Jordi Barrett, with Hales Engineering, reviewed the project development and introduced highlighted projects. Mr. Gibbons discussed the roadway network addressed in the plan. He reviewed the next steps.
  • Commissioner Harbin asked when the MAG plan concept estimated date is set to be complete.   Mr. Gibbons responded in explaining the map that color codes projects and what time they may be introduced.   Discussion ensued.   Commissioner Caden Rhoton appreciated his time and called attention to the Active Transportation Master Plan.
  • Chair Steele opened the public hearing.
  • Resident Daria Evans vocalized concern about the0 North and Main Street intersection. She also discussed circulation concerns that she had. Ms. Evans discussed park strip as well.
  • Resident David Lauret asked about the timeline of a trail. He asked about efforts toward the Geneva Road and Geneva South intersection.
  • Chair Steele closed the public hearing. He started with addressing Ms. Evan’s comments.   Engineer James discussed the plans for that intersections.   Mr. Gibbons noted that that text was not to be included.
  • Chair Steele asked staff about the benefit of park strips.   Public Works Director and City Engineer Naseem Ghandour noted that it is a part of the public right-of-way.
  • Commissioner Graden Ostler asked about ownership of the park strips.   Director Ghandour responded in saying they fall under the jurisdiction of the city.   Chair Steele prompted information on the trail.
  • Community Development Director Morgan Brim noted that it is still under works.   Chair Steele sparked conversation about the intersection Mr. Lauret addressed.   Engineer James noted that it is one of the items on today’s agenda.
  • Motion: COMMISSIONER CADEN RHOTON MOTIONED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ITEM2 TO CITY COUNCIL AS PRESENTED WITH THE NOTED CHANGES AT30PM. COMMISSIONER HARBIN SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR VOTED YES: HARBIN, PEARCE, STEELE, OSTLER, RHOTON, AND FAGG. THE VOTE CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.    3.
  • PLAN25-0015 Conditional Use permit1 W Sycamore Ln. - Preschool
  • Planner Anthony Fletcher presented locational context and briefed the purpose of the application. He provided the recommended conditions: the applicant shall meet all building design requirements, the applicant shall ensure the safety of all students during drop-off and pick-up, the applicant shall observe the city’s ‘Nuisances General’ ordinance outlined in the Municipal code, the applicant shall comply with all requirements provided by the fire marshal regarding fire access and maximize the safety and convenience of pedestrian flow, the applicant pays any outstanding fees and makes any redline corrections, and the applicant is subject to all federal, state, and local laws.   Commissioner Ostler asked what ages.
  • Holly Hyte, the applicant, notedandyear olds.   Commissioner David Pearce asked how she will ensure safety at pick up and drop off.   Ms. Hyte responded in saying that she will be monitoring during drop-off and pick-up. She discussed the desire for safety amongst the parents.   Discussion ensued.
  • Chair Steele opened it up to the public.
  • Ms. Evans asked about ladders in window wells.   Ms. Hyte said yes.   Chair Steele closed the public comments.
  • Motion: COMMISSIONER HARBIN MOTIONED TO APPROVE ITEM3 AS PRESENTED AND WITH CONDITIONS AT41PM. COMMISSIONER PEARCE SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR VOTED YES: HARBIN, PEARCE, STEELE, OSTLER, RHOTON, AND FAGG. THE VOTE CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.  
  • Work Session  4.Station Area Plan (SAP)
  • Planner Fletcher presented the background to the Station Area Plan. He provided site context, implementation steps, and process steps.
  • Commissioner Steele appreciated the plan and asked who makes up the committee for the SAP.   Director Brim noted that the committee is made up of mainly mayors in Utah County.
  • Commissioner Harbin asked about the recommendation for flex commercial including residential.   Director Brim said that this is more land use, zoning would come in the future. He outlined the purpose.
  • Commissioner Harbin noted that by leaving it broad we may be losing a tax base.   Director Brim addressed her comment by explaining the site allocations.
  • Commissioner Harbin asked about the Utah regulation for moderate housing.   Director Brim briefed the guideline.   Discussion ensued.
  • Commissioner Pearce asked about how much future flexibility there will be.   Director Brim responded in how upkeep occurs with these types of documents.   Discussion ensued.
  • Chair Steele asked if the plan adequately addressed the public design for open space and nature.   Planner Fletcher noted yes.   Director Brim added the green loop.
  • Commissioner Harbin asked about the opportunity of a barrier by the tracks.   Director Ghandour discussed the status.   Chair Steele opened it up to the public.
  • Mr. Lauret asked about the suitability of living quality in this area. He asked about tax allocation.
  • Presten asked about the dirt mound and asked about a connection.   There were no more public comments.
  • Director Brim addressed the question about dirt piles and the connection.   Director Brim addressed the quality and usability of that area.   Chair Steele prompted the conversation on tax bases.   Director Brim discussed the Economic Development Strategic Plan.  5.
  • Vineyard Regional Trail Enhancement Project
  • Director Ghandour presented an overview on the trail enhancement project. He highlighted the alignment to the Active Transportation Master Plan, partnerships, and reviewed highlighted projects.
  • Commissioner Harbin asked about the street parking.   Director Ghandour noted that there would be no street parking.
  • Commissioner Harbin asked about a timeline.   Director Ghandour provided the dates.
  • Chair Steele asked about Vineyard Street road.   Director Ghandour noted that this project is focused on the intersection itself.
  • Director Ghandour continued to review the projects highlighted in the presentation.
  • Commissioner Harbin asked about the penalties for blowing through these stops.   Director Ghandour noted that they are red lights by law.
  • Director Ghandour continued in reviewing the policy and plan alignment. He discussed the budget and timeline.
  • Mr. Lauret asked about the realignment of the teachers parking lot and recommended another intersection.   Naseem discussed options for Mr. Lauret’s question.         
  • Staff and Commission Reports   There were no comments.  
  • Adjournment   Chair Steele adjourned the meeting at56pm.     minutes certified COMPLETE ON: Octobert,25 CERTIFIED (NOTICED) BY:                                                      Madison Reed, Planning Technician

Transcript

Event transcript
Alright, it is 6:00 on September 3rd, 2025. Welcome to. 00:00:12
The Planning Commission meeting. 00:00:17
City of Vineyard. 00:00:20
Uh, we're gonna go ahead and call this meeting to order. 00:00:21
And we'll have an invocation and the Pledge of Allegiance by group. 00:00:24
Yeah. All right. 00:00:30
Our Father in heaven, we. 00:00:39
Would like to give the. 00:00:43
Thanks express gratitude for. 00:00:45
As community, we live in. 00:00:48
We're grateful for. 00:00:51
This beautiful weather we're having. 00:00:53
At this time, as we meet together, we. 00:00:56
Pray for the Holy Spirit to be with us. 00:00:59
Please guide us and. 00:01:03
Our thoughts. 00:01:05
And the questions? 00:01:08
And answers. 00:01:12
Help us to. 00:01:14
Think of others. 00:01:19
And. 00:01:20
Represent vineyards the best we can. 00:01:22
We pray in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen. 00:01:25
Amen. Thank you. 00:01:28
All right, let's stand. 00:01:30
Of the United States of America. 00:01:37
And for which it stands. 00:01:39
One nation under God. 00:01:42
Off. 00:01:45
Thank you. 00:01:50
So much. 00:01:51
Uh, we'll move on to Item 2, which are presentations, recognitions and such. 00:01:52
Seeing none on the agenda, that moves us on to #3 which are public comments. 00:01:57
So if there are any members of the public with. 00:02:03
Any comments? 00:02:05
For an item not on the agenda. 00:02:07
Feel free to. 00:02:09
Comment now. 00:02:11
You can just come up to the microphone. 00:02:13
Hearing none, we will close that public comment period and move on to item number 4, which are our concern. 00:02:17
Sent items. 00:02:22
Uh, the only item on that is our approval of the August. 00:02:23
20th Planning Commission meeting minutes. 00:02:26
Are there any questions or discussion about that? 00:02:29
And if not, is there a motion to approve sentiment? 00:02:31
And make a motion to approve. 00:02:36
Alright, we have a motion. 00:02:38
Do we have a second? 00:02:39
Oh, second. And we have a second. 00:02:40
All in favor say aye. 00:02:42
Aye, any opposed? 00:02:44
None so therefore. 00:02:46
The minutes are approved OK. 00:02:48
Move on to. 00:02:50
Item number 5, which are our two business items, our first one will be a public hearing. 00:02:51
Of the transportation master plan so. 00:02:56
Turn the time over to staff for a. 00:03:00
Brief presentation. 00:03:02
Since this is our second time. 00:03:03
Hearing. 00:03:06
Most of us. 00:03:07
Uh, yeah, We have, uh, Josh Gibbons here from uh. 00:03:09
Health Engineering. 00:03:13
Anyway, they'll. 00:03:19
They'll present Jordy Barrett also here. Sorry. 00:03:20
They'll present on. 00:03:24
Updated planning or the transportation password plan for us. 00:03:26
Wonderful. 00:03:30
And before they start, just to reiterate. 00:03:31
The responsibility that the Planning Commission has is to. 00:03:34
Offer feedback and then ultimately make a recommendation. 00:03:38
To the City Council and who? And they will be taking the final action. 00:03:41
Thank you. Hear me OK. 00:03:44
It's great to be here with you commissioners, uh. 00:03:50
Josh Givens with Hales Engineering. We've been working with city staff. 00:03:52
On this master plan for. 00:03:55
Transportation in the city. 00:03:57
Uh, you've already heard a presentation similar to this from staff recently, so we'll go pretty quick through this. 00:03:59
Hit the highlights. 00:04:04
Answer any questions you have and then. 00:04:05
We can move on from there. 00:04:08
Umm, the transportation master plan. You know, the purpose of it is to establish policy standards. 00:04:10
Uh, for the city. 00:04:15
Filling with uh. 00:04:17
Access management. 00:04:18
For for roads. 00:04:19
Uh, functional classification of roads. 00:04:21
Projects for roads. 00:04:23
So we look at, uh, future conditions of how traffic will grow. 00:04:24
Overtime. 00:04:28
Uh, based on. 00:04:29
You know, you know local projections for those. 00:04:30
Along with that we have other manuals and documents like this Access management manual this this. 00:04:33
The purpose of this document is to help your staff. 00:04:38
Maintain you know, appropriate access spacing, driveway spacing, St. spacing on roads. 00:04:43
So we, uh, you know, in. 00:04:48
Uh, maximize safety. 00:04:50
Maximize, uh. 00:04:52
Throughput on our arterial arterial roads. 00:04:53
Uh, but but helps kind of slower speeds on the smaller roads like local roads, so. 00:04:56
There's all sorts of guidelines in there to. 00:05:01
Uh, protects, you know, the city's infrastructure in that way. 00:05:03
Uh, we have traffic impact study guidelines which will be important as developments come in through your review and approval. 00:05:07
Uh, these these studies are great to to show you the impacts of a specific development on intersections. 00:05:14
And what improvements need to be done? 00:05:20
So there's guidelines in there for that as well. 00:05:21
Uh, we've, uh, updated the city's traffic calming guidelines as well. I think you already had a great system in place. We kind of 00:05:24
added to that. 00:05:28
And added, you know, specific. 00:05:32
Traffic calling measures that can be done at certain places. 00:05:34
And the process. 00:05:37
That, uh, the city staff goes through to get those. 00:05:38
Uh, studies. 00:05:41
Reviewed and approved. 00:05:43
Uh, we, we revised. 00:05:46
The typical cross sections for the city. 00:05:47
Uh, by functional classification. 00:05:49
Social class classification, of course, is just uh. 00:05:51
How roads are classified by local Rd. Collector roads. Arterial roads. 00:05:54
And uh, each, each one has a different. 00:05:58
Different characteristics. 00:06:01
I'll just kind of skim through these as as I talk, but. 00:06:02
Uh, we, we've essentially taken the the previous. 00:06:05
Uh, typical sections. 00:06:08
Uh, we've kind of compared them to existing city roads you have. 00:06:10
Umm, most of your. 00:06:14
Network is. 00:06:16
You know, built out for the most part in the southern. 00:06:17
Half of the city, I would say. 00:06:20
There's more development to the north, of course, that will, uh. 00:06:22
Add more infrastructure, but. 00:06:25
Umm, so we try to match these sections to what you already have. 00:06:27
While also trying to bring in national standards for safety on roads. 00:06:31
You know, looking at lien width. 00:06:35
Shoulders. 00:06:37
And and whatnot. 00:06:38
Now we're showing here, you know. 00:06:39
Side side treatments and sidewalks and landscaping. 00:06:41
A lot of this is pretty similar. I think there were a couple. 00:06:44
Instances where we recommended. 00:06:47
A little bit wider shoulders just to match National Safety standards for Rd. design. 00:06:49
Uh, but overall, not a lot of changes on these. 00:06:54
So. 00:06:57
So next I just want to cover. 00:07:01
Big picture, some something we covered in this master plan. 00:07:02
Umm, this is the current. 00:07:06
Regional transportation plan for MAG. 00:07:08
Uh, you see, you read. 00:07:10
The red roads shown are potential freeway projects. 00:07:12
In in the vicinity of vineyards. 00:07:14
The black are arterial projects. 00:07:17
And the orange ones are Expressway projects. 00:07:19
That Meg is considering and planning right now. 00:07:23
Umm, so something we talked about with staff as we. 00:07:26
Worked on this plan. 00:07:28
Is umm. Mac is showing umm. 00:07:30
You know, the orange Expressway. 00:07:33
Potential along Vineyard Connector coming down and around. 00:07:35
Tying back into Geneva Road and then overtime 15. 00:07:39
Uh, they also show and this is actually a new update. 00:07:43
Since we started the plan, but they've they've now shown this. 00:07:46
Additional orange along Chamber Rd. 00:07:48
That starts north of 800 N and then goes down into. 00:07:51
Provo Paso Provo Airport. 00:07:54
And out to a potential bridge across the Bay on the Provo. 00:07:56
To go South. 00:08:01
Umm, so something we talked about with staff is that we we felt that this. 00:08:02
There were some good concepts here. 00:08:06
But we thought there could be some tweaks that could benefit. 00:08:07
Both vineyards. 00:08:10
And in the region. 00:08:11
As it stands, you know this would push a lot of traffic on a very high speed facility. 00:08:13
Past Utah City that you know that area there and and past Vineyard. 00:08:18
Through Vineyard, basically. 00:08:23
Umm, And So what we talked about with staff is. 00:08:24
In this plan. 00:08:28
Uh, showing the recommendation in a in a plan for the city and a desire from the city. 00:08:30
To basically realign that Expressway instead of coming around on the Vineyard sector alignment. 00:08:35
So basically you realign that major flow. 00:08:40
Uh, to, you know, come somewhere along here and. 00:08:43
Tie into to Geneva. 00:08:46
That way we have one Expressway facility that's a parallel about I-15. 00:08:48
Uh, you know, it's a great way to. 00:08:52
Help take pressure off off of I-15. 00:08:54
It keeps the through traffic. 00:08:57
On the outside of your city. 00:08:59
And uh. 00:09:00
You know, provide I, I think it provides a huge regional benefit. 00:09:01
Where basically every everywhere we're trying to get parallel routes type 15. 00:09:04
Overloaded multiple. 00:09:09
You know, many days of the week. 00:09:10
Umm. Anyway, so this is. 00:09:12
Uh, kind of a major regional, uh, idea that would set you up in this plan. 00:09:13
And that is included within the projects, uh, for the plan. 00:09:18
Uh, what I will say is that this is not a new idea. 00:09:22
Actually have this in their plan years ago in the previous plan. 00:09:25
Uh, they just got rid of it. They didn't think it was feasible due to land ownership. 00:09:29
And that that's still something to work through, obviously. 00:09:33
Uh, but uh, talking with staff, the desire was there to bring it back. 00:09:36
Sure, great. 00:09:39
I hope Jordan covering a few slides here about our, UH, project development. 00:09:42
Awesome. Thanks, Josh. Again, I'm Jordy Barrett with Hills Engineering. 00:09:47
I just wanna. 00:09:51
Covering this really quickly. Umm, it's. 00:09:52
As I'm sure most of you are familiar with this from the. 00:09:54
Previous presentation but. 00:09:56
Part of the TMP process was. 00:09:58
So to establish a baseline. 00:10:00
Condition. So how things are currently operating in the city? 00:10:02
And then model future growth in both kind of an intermediate year, which we chose as. 00:10:05
Is 2033 kind of a tenure build out? 00:10:09
And then our full build out year 2050. 00:10:12
And this is used to kind of. 00:10:15
Identify any deficiencies that. 00:10:16
That we can. 00:10:19
Anticipate based on the growth in the area. 00:10:20
Umm, and then. 00:10:23
Based on those deficiencies. 00:10:25
Recommend project. 00:10:26
Projects for both Rd. pedestrian and and transit. 00:10:27
Improvements throughout the network so. 00:10:31
As you can see here, this is our future 2050 kind of no bill, this is this like alright. 00:10:35
Every everything kind of stays as it is. You can see many of the road. 00:10:41
Uh, roadway segments here, especially like on 800 N. 00:10:46
Turn Vineyard Vineyard Connector Alignment Mill Rd. 00:10:49
Umm, I anticipate to operate. 00:10:53
Quite poorly. 00:10:54
Level service F. 00:10:56
As you can see with the red lines. 00:10:57
Uh, so this is kind of our worst case scenario and, and based on this and the intermediate scenarios we had, uh, we came up with. 00:10:59
With our different projects. 00:11:07
Um, again, many of you have already seen these projects. I'm not going to. 00:11:09
It's been a great deal of time on them, but. 00:11:14
But those are kind of the summaries there. We actually have a map on the next slide that. 00:11:18
Maybe a little bit more helpful, but. 00:11:21
Um, because you can see here we, we have some projects to improve capacity along. 00:11:24
800 N in your connector. 00:11:29
We show that the future. 00:11:32
On extension of Milled Road to the north. 00:11:34
1200 N Going across the tracks into Utah City. 00:11:36
Uh, which is something that's. 00:11:40
You know, currently being evaluated. 00:11:41
We also show some of the short term projects. 00:11:44
You know the improvements to. 00:11:46
Uh, like you. 00:11:48
Libby Rd. I believe it's called uh. 00:11:49
Blvd. That's right. 00:11:52
I just drove. 00:11:54
Drove down the way here. 00:11:55
Remember that anyway. Umm, we also show. 00:11:58
UH-400 N. 00:12:01
Connection across. 00:12:02
Across the rail, which is something we talked about with. 00:12:04
City staff. 00:12:06
To explore and some other more, maybe more minor. 00:12:07
Minor projects. 00:12:10
In addition to those ones. 00:12:12
Umm, and finally, we have kind of our our roadway network. 00:12:14
And our future intersection control map that you can kind of see. 00:12:18
I like you. 00:12:22
Yeah. So this kind of shows existing and future intersection control. 00:12:27
Uh, future signals that are potential in different locations. 00:12:31
Umm, but the Astros or future roads that. 00:12:34
We've identified in the plan. 00:12:37
Some of your more major roads, of course, would be the red and the orange are your arterial roads that we. 00:12:39
Would want to. 00:12:44
You know. 00:12:46
Reserved for uh. 00:12:47
With high capacity and. 00:12:49
Major throughput on those roads. 00:12:50
Umm, relative to other roads in the city. 00:12:53
The blue roads, the dark blue and the light blue and blue collector roads in the city. 00:12:55
So you know, I think overall this creates a great grid network. 00:13:01
There was some desire from the city. 00:13:05
I mean 1200 N is already in the works to go across the rail. 00:13:07
But the desire to have 400 N connect across the rail, that that's something that we talked about in this plan. 00:13:11
Umm overall with all those projects this country great. 00:13:16
Grid network we believe in the city to. 00:13:20
Help internal flow. 00:13:22
Dramatically. 00:13:23
Umm. And then, uh. 00:13:25
We have here active transportation projects. 00:13:28
A lot of things already came from the active transportation plan that the city already had. 00:13:30
There were a few minor updates, but overall it was very comprehensive. 00:13:35
The plan you already had so. 00:13:39
There were not a lot of changes here. 00:13:40
Transit projects, uh, there are, there are a lot of these that. 00:13:44
Uh, follow UTA's long range plan. 00:13:47
The main differences I'll point out really quick would be the the green kind of dashed line is a little hard to see, but. 00:13:50
Developing around kind of the downtown area to the north. 00:13:55
Just a thought about maybe future study to have a circulator going around in that area. 00:13:59
To limit vehicle traffic, give give people. 00:14:04
You know, an opportunity to. 00:14:08
To join a mass transit circulator type. 00:14:10
Vehicle that could take them. 00:14:12
You know, to the to the train station or wherever they're going. 00:14:14
In the downtown area. 00:14:17
You can see there we show a light rail. 00:14:19
Uh, alignments. 00:14:22
Uh, on Geneva Rd. the light blue. 00:14:23
Umm, that's been, you know. 00:14:25
Fluctuating in the past, but talking to city staff, you know this is the latest plan we've talked about. 00:14:28
Where it can come down Geneva Rd. 00:14:33
And then follow up 12th North. 00:14:35
And then potentially, umm. 00:14:37
I could travel South from there. 00:14:39
Uh, that that, you know, that would tie in of course to. 00:14:41
Other major networks within Utah County. 00:14:44
So great next step. 00:14:47
Uh, would be uh. 00:14:49
You know. 00:14:51
In addition to this is we have a capital facilities and impact key plan. 00:14:52
In fact, these will that will come in a later date. 00:14:56
Along with the impact fee analysis and adoption. 00:14:59
Really, that is the purpose, or one of the biggest. 00:15:02
The biggest benefits of this plan? This master plan? 00:15:05
Is we can identify projects. 00:15:07
And then you can take those projects and charge new developments. 00:15:09
A fee to help pay for the projects down the line so you're not pulling from the general fund for all those projects or other 00:15:13
sources. 00:15:16
Umm, so that, that, that'll, that's still to come. That's something we're working with city staff on and should have ready, uh. 00:15:20
You know, pretty soon here so. 00:15:25
I think that's all we had for for tonight. Any questions I can answer? 00:15:27
Thank you. 00:15:33
Members of the. 00:15:34
Feel free to ask any questions. 00:15:36
Can you remind me when the umm Madison? 00:15:44
That you said this is set to be complete. 00:15:47
With those additional arterial. 00:15:49
And does that match with our projected timeline? 00:15:51
Yeah. Can you tell me you're the the Max plan, you said? Yeah, let me pull it up. There's obviously a lot of what we're doing is 00:15:54
dependent on that. 00:15:58
Yeah, well, so just curious. 00:16:02
I'm pretty sure you said before if you could just remind me when it. 00:16:05
That doesn't have an estimated date. 00:16:08
And when that is. 00:16:10
Yeah. So all these projects here are phased differently. I didn't. 00:16:12
Give you the map that has the color phasing and I can send that to. 00:16:16
Making sure that our city staff later on this week. 00:16:19
They can pass it on to you, but. 00:16:21
The major rows you'll see here, like the orange dashed line. 00:16:24
That's what they call a phase three project up to 2050. 00:16:27
Essentially between 2042 and 2050 I believe. 00:16:31
You know, some seeing this presentation tonight for the first time, they see, well, why is there a red line across the lake? 00:16:34
That's the concept of a. 00:16:41
1st across the lake. 00:16:43
I don't think that's funded. 00:16:45
So I'll be beyond 2050 at this point. 00:16:46
Probably. 00:16:48
Umm other facilities on here? 00:16:49
Honestly, I think a lot of them are probably, uh, phase three. 00:16:53
Out here. 00:16:56
From from what I recall so. 00:16:57
Yeah. 00:16:59
The the I mean the issue of black line here on Vineyard connector site video. Plan on widening before then. 00:17:00
Umm, so I apologize I don't have those answers right now, but. 00:17:06
I'm just curious what part overlaps with our plan and where the hinge points would be if. 00:17:09
Something didn't end up being completed by Mac. 00:17:15
I see. Yeah. 00:17:17
Umm, you know, and, and what we did, you know Jordy called this scenario here a no build. 00:17:18
And it's. 00:17:23
Personally, no bills, but you'll see there are new roads in here like Vineyard connectors, so I'm going to the north. 00:17:24
In this scenario. 00:17:29
Umm, so we actually assumed. 00:17:30
Uh, those projects in our model. 00:17:33
When they were funded. 00:17:35
And, uh, talking with Mag recently, you know? 00:17:36
That that funded year that they call out. 00:17:39
Is very conservative. 00:17:41
It's very likely. 00:17:43
Those projects can be built sooner than when they say they're funded. 00:17:44
You know. 00:17:47
Umm. So I think we've been conservative in how they overlap their. 00:17:47
Fine. Thank you. 00:17:51
OK. 00:17:55
Any other comments or questions? 00:17:57
I don't, I don't have a question, I just. 00:18:01
Uh, I appreciate you coming here and, and sharing this and one thing. 00:18:03
That you did mention and that. 00:18:08
Umm, I saw as I was reading through is that you know there are active transportation. 00:18:10
Plans in place and just one thing for me. 00:18:16
As I recommend this. 00:18:19
If I'm recommending this to City Council or to city staff. 00:18:21
Through that, I would just encourage. 00:18:24
That both. 00:18:26
Things that are outlined in. 00:18:29
Both hear those projects and and are mentioned in the. 00:18:30
The butter. 00:18:34
Transportation plan don't get. 00:18:35
Overlooked and that those. 00:18:37
Are also a priority because a great way to reduce. 00:18:39
Car congestion is to provide. 00:18:43
Viable other. 00:18:45
Modes and options for people to move. 00:18:46
Both within and. 00:18:49
In and out of the city, so. 00:18:50
That's just a comment that I have mostly I guess for. 00:18:52
For units for city staff as this. 00:18:56
Umm, it's recommended and implemented and things like that in the future. I just think that that would be. 00:18:58
That's an important piece that I don't want it. 00:19:02
Get lost. 00:19:04
OK. Yeah, great point. And that that is one of the key here. It's not just about roadways. 00:19:06
You don't have a great transit. 00:19:10
Stop at the station there, we wanna make sure we get good heads and bike connections there so people can use it so. 00:19:12
Yep. 00:19:17
Great. All right. 00:19:18
Thank you so much. 00:19:21
This is a notice public hearing, so I'm going to go ahead and. 00:19:22
Open the public hearing. 00:19:25
There's any comments? 00:19:27
Uh, from the public. Now is your time. 00:19:28
Hi Daria Evans Villas residence. 00:19:35
55. 00:19:38
Ready. I just have a. 00:19:39
All questions I'm a little bit concerned about. 00:19:41
On Table 8. 00:19:44
That this in this. 00:19:47
Transportation master plan. 00:19:48
I am very concerned about 600 N and Main St. 00:19:50
That is my main intersection. 00:19:54
And right now, as of January 25, it is receiving an F. 00:19:57
For the level of service. 00:20:02
And they're saying it would be in the Phase 2. 00:20:04
To fix it. 00:20:07
And, umm. 00:20:09
So I'm just wondering if we might be able to. 00:20:10
Pushed up into phase one because that. 00:20:12
Is a very busy and becomes a very. 00:20:15
Hazardous intersection. 00:20:18
And also. 00:20:21
It says here. 00:20:22
It is recommended that East and West. 00:20:24
Churn movements be restricted at the. 00:20:27
At 600 N Main St. intersection. 00:20:29
This change will take place with the future 300 W Junior Connector project. 00:20:32
Which will provide for alternative access for the neighborhood on the West side of Main Street. 00:20:37
OK, that sounds good. 00:20:42
For that. 00:20:45
But there's Fall Creek. 00:20:46
That could go rest, sister. 00:20:48
Thirdwest. And there's the. 00:20:49
I guess that 260 less. 00:20:52
That the townhouse committee to go that way. 00:20:54
But when you're hitting the preserves. 00:20:57
Right across. 00:21:00
From Mallard Dr. which is the main exit. 00:21:01
To the intersection. 00:21:04
A lot of those people and the Springs people will be using that intersection. 00:21:07
And so. 00:21:11
That's kind of like. 00:21:13
They get they'll have to go all the way around. 00:21:14
And they want us to go all the way around. 00:21:17
To get to the. 00:21:20
Yes, things are done quickly. 00:21:22
And I don't know when. 00:21:24
The third W Vineyard Connector project will be finished. 00:21:26
And so I'm hoping. 00:21:30
That. 00:21:32
We might be able to move up. 00:21:35
That intersection. 00:21:36
To a first priority. 00:21:38
Also. 00:21:41
Umm, that shows the. It shows the pictures of. 00:21:42
The widening of the streets. 00:21:46
And we've talked about in City Council and other Planning Commission meetings about water conservation. 00:21:49
And they're showing cart strips. 00:21:55
Well, they could water the widen the shoulders. We didn't have those park strips. 00:21:56
And that was just another thought that I had. And so I appreciate your time. Thank you. 00:22:01
OK. Thank you. 00:22:06
Are there any other comments from the public? 00:22:10
Hi, David, Lorraine. 00:22:22
The Covey Rd. area. 00:22:24
Uh, I just have a question actually, uh, maybe you could help me. 00:22:26
Understand. 00:22:28
Umm, I've I've noticed that as part of the active transportation plan, there was a. 00:22:29
There is a a. 00:22:34
Looks like a trail that goes on. 00:22:35
Holy Road and so forth is that, is that? Do we know when that's that's supposed to be? 00:22:37
The end is that that part of the? Is there a date with that or? 00:22:41
Any ideas? 00:22:45
Well, for the plan. 00:22:46
That's question #1. 00:22:48
OK, uh, question number 2 is that I, I what didn't see what the grade was on. 00:22:49
Intersection of Geneva Road and 400 S. 00:22:54
It's it's really actually a three-way intersection. 00:22:57
Geneva Rd. Water South and Vineyard Rd. 00:23:01
Look it, it's a whole, it's even a half a block apart. 00:23:04
Well, with those, and that's, uh, and that's a. 00:23:07
Anyways, there's a real problem with there and and we have a lot of. 00:23:10
A lot of traffic. We've had a lot of soccer games and so forth down at the park and. 00:23:13
We find a lot of congestion trying to get in and out of there. 00:23:17
So I'm wondering if if that's on the docket to? 00:23:20
To be able to work with Orem and Mag to try to. 00:23:23
We'll, uh, redesign that or something to, to make it a little more, uh. 00:23:27
Friendly to everybody. 00:23:31
United Vehicles. So those are my questions. Thanks. 00:23:35
Thank you. 00:23:38
OK. 00:23:41
Is there any other comments from the public? 00:23:43
All right, seeing none, we are going to close. 00:23:47
Uh, the public hearings. 00:23:51
Uh, staff, I do want to follow up on these questions. 00:23:52
First can be getting a little background on the intersection that. 00:23:55
Daria mentioned. Why is it? 00:23:59
Currently listed as a priority two. 00:24:02
Are there opportunities to change that? What was the reasoning behind? 00:24:05
Uh, what gets? 00:24:08
Priority one versus 2 verse three verse. 00:24:09
27. 00:24:11
Yeah, that that intersection of 200 N and Main Street, I think that did get tweaked and we're going to keep. 00:24:12
Installing a traffic light. 00:24:18
Very soon, actually. 00:24:20
We're in design design phase for traffic light at that intersection. 00:24:22
And and also the the left turn restricted elements that that will not be a thing with the with the. 00:24:26
Intersection. 00:24:34
I don't know if you want to elaborate on that, Josh. 00:24:35
Yeah, the the text that was red, that was a leftover text that will remove from the plan, obviously just keep it as a signalized 00:24:38
intersection. 00:24:41
In there, OK. 00:24:44
Great. Thanks. 00:24:46
And then could we also have? 00:24:48
Um staff opinion. 00:24:51
On the benefit. 00:24:53
Of. 00:24:55
Park Strip. 00:24:55
Why are those typically part of the designs here in Vineyard? 00:24:57
So in regards to what we show on the active. 00:25:00
If you down the transportation match plan it would have. 00:25:04
And. 00:25:08
In short, uh, that's. 00:25:09
Part of the public right of way, so we. 00:25:11
So we show. 00:25:13
A design concept of. 00:25:15
Uh, the roadway, the park strip and the sidewalk, uh, to uh, as a holistic approach is like. 00:25:16
Of the roadway being more in just the actual pavement, it's it's the. 00:25:22
Park Strip. Park Strip. 00:25:27
And you know, for other work engineers. 00:25:29
If there's a purpose for utilities. 00:25:32
You know, for some weeks away from the of course the sidewalk provides for production. 00:25:34
The the the. 00:25:38
Pictures that were shown on there are really more for our concept pictures. The actual way actually goes into the park shifts the 00:25:41
tree. 00:25:44
Or graph or. 00:25:47
Or, uh, water wise landscaping or gravel and so forth. 00:25:48
That's that that's handled. 00:25:52
On the like, on the side plan. 00:25:54
Engineer technical review pages. 00:25:57
And 1st we do have a. 00:26:00
To you manual. 00:26:03
That we we make sure that the developers follow and as well as as well as the city as well. 00:26:04
So, uh. 00:26:10
You know, it's a great, it's great for us if you kind of identify. 00:26:12
The width of the park strip. 00:26:15
In terms of to ensure that the city is. 00:26:17
Reserving. 00:26:21
They can use for utilities but also safety for a possible future widening or. 00:26:23
Or trail or whether the winding. 00:26:28
Payment or whether the widening come there? 00:26:30
Uh, Taiwan portion of it, OK. 00:26:32
Thank you. 00:26:36
Umm, I I'd also. 00:26:38
Yeah. 00:26:40
Who generally owns? 00:26:41
The park strip in front of our house. 00:26:44
Uh, so the park strip itself is. 00:26:48
Far with the public right away so that's the IT follows any so I I want you to work down there falls underneath the. 00:26:50
Jurisdiction of the of the city. 00:26:57
So the part of itself is. 00:27:00
Uh is on the basis yes is uh, Utah County uh parcel map. 00:27:03
The the property the property line of the. 00:27:10
Stopped at the back of sidewalk. 00:27:14
And then the the park shifts within the public right away. 00:27:16
So in essence that it provides the public the ability to access. 00:27:19
The sidewalk and every in a free manner as well. 00:27:24
Driveways etc. 00:27:27
The follow on question is if. 00:27:28
If you log out or anyone wants to ask it but. 00:27:31
Improvements of the park strip. 00:27:35
I don't know the city code. 00:27:36
To allow. 00:27:38
To to do improvements in the park shift in terms of landscaping. 00:27:39
Uh, or trees, etcetera, etcetera. So. 00:27:42
You know, just like at my house, I, I know my parks trip. It's a very long park strip. 00:27:45
OK. Thank you for your service on the corner of law, but. 00:27:51
Uh, but that second thing on my. 00:27:54
Great. Umm. 00:27:57
Could we please get comments on the trail that could potentially go along? 00:28:00
Ultimate Rd. 00:28:06
That was asked. 00:28:07
So. 00:28:14
If if there is a plan for it, do we have a timeline? Is it in this plan? 00:28:15
Or is that a separate? 00:28:19
Sure. I'm that's one of the things that we're still working out. We do have. 00:28:21
The trail on the that'll extend. 00:28:25
South from the school. 00:28:28
That's located on the corner of Holloway Rd. Center St. 00:28:31
And that would then? 00:28:34
Come down and connect and. 00:28:35
Park so that would train a section of it. 00:28:37
There's also funding that was set aside for the whole away. 00:28:40
Road umm. 00:28:44
Umm, master plan. 00:28:47
That's what I would look at. 00:28:49
Potentially looking at ways to slow traffic to have. 00:28:50
Just slow traffic supplies could could could be in traffic. 00:28:55
And also looking at umm, the development, the homesteads, I think it's pot 11 that's located just to. 00:28:59
Don't last to that property and potentially getting the connection in there. 00:29:06
And so the idea overall is to connect is just to make that. 00:29:09
A place where active transportation modes can operate safely, but there's not. 00:29:13
A timeline on that infrastructure, It would be. 00:29:18
Thrown into a design process that. 00:29:21
The City Council would determine, from a capital improvement standpoint how to prior. 00:29:24
If you want to see it right away, but. 00:29:28
For severe City Council intermission. 00:29:29
Wonderful. Thank you. 00:29:32
Umm. And then lastly, uh, the question about the intersection of Geneva 400. 00:29:33
South Vineyard Rd. kind of that freeway and then that congested area. I know that's. 00:29:37
Orem City. 00:29:43
Is there? 00:29:44
Has there been any conversation or communication with them? 00:29:45
Or. 00:29:49
Plan sharing. 00:29:51
That any work would be done there. 00:29:52
That's actually one of the items on on Skype agenda or. 00:29:57
Part of it. So we can we can look at that when we get there and and. 00:30:00
Maybe elaborate on on that design and. 00:30:04
Thank you. 00:30:07
Alright. 00:30:10
So with that, is there any member of the board? 00:30:11
Uh, with any further questions? 00:30:16
Or. 00:30:18
Are we anyone? 00:30:19
Happy to make a motion. 00:30:21
If we want, I can make a motion and would it just be? 00:30:29
To approve this. 00:30:33
Recommend approval. Approval as presented, yeah. 00:30:35
With like the edits that were mentioned, we need to clarify. We need to specify that. 00:30:38
Like with that? 00:30:43
600 N. 00:30:44
Oh, that was being removed and stuff like that. There we go. That's great. 00:30:45
So do I have to include that or is that was that encompass? 00:30:49
In the. 00:30:52
OK, alright, so I move. 00:30:54
To recommend approval. 00:30:56
Of umm. 00:30:58
The transportation master plan. 00:31:00
As presented with. 00:31:03
The noted changes. 00:31:04
Is that good? 00:31:07
Does that work? Actually works Trembling. 00:31:08
Yeah, just to clarify the noted changes. 00:31:11
Was for the one project that is not priority to. It's actually already in the works to be incompleted. 00:31:13
OK. That's what the change was. OK, great. 00:31:20
Do you have a second? 00:31:22
I have a second. 00:31:24
OK, all in favor say aye. 00:31:25
Aye, any opposed? 00:31:27
None. All right, it is recommended. 00:31:30
Unanimously. 00:31:32
Thank you for coming tonight and presenting. 00:31:35
Alright, uh. 00:31:38
Our next business item. 00:31:39
Will be conditional use permit. 00:31:42
For 191 W Dickhorn Lane, which is a preschool. 00:31:44
And so I will turn that over to staff for staff report. 00:31:48
All right, so. 00:32:17
Hi, so my name is Anthony Fletcher and I will be presenting on the conditional use. 00:32:20
Permit application for preschool. 00:32:25
That we had from Sycamore Lane. 00:32:28
Learning Innovations, LLC, we have the applicant here. 00:32:31
Her name is Holly. 00:32:35
Hi, thank you. 00:32:37
And she will be here too also. 00:32:39
Respond to any concerns that you may. 00:32:41
Presentation. 00:32:46
So to give you a location context. 00:32:47
This is where it is located. 00:32:50
Is southwest of the City Hall. 00:32:54
Right now and it's located in that. 00:32:59
In this area where you have the red dot. 00:33:01
So the property is located. 00:33:07
And the R18. 00:33:10
Umm, zone. 00:33:13
And as it stands now. 00:33:16
The applicant. 00:33:18
Received license to operate. 00:33:21
That's preschool for up to and the code allows. 00:33:23
For up to seven students. 00:33:27
Per session. 00:33:29
Between the hours of 8:00 AM to 8:00 PM. 00:33:30
So this conditional use permit will. 00:33:33
Allow the applicants to have a lot more students. 00:33:36
Up to 10. 00:33:39
Umm, she currently. 00:33:41
Has only five students. 00:33:43
And is operating one session right now. 00:33:45
But this is an observation for growth in the future so she doesn't have to come back when she having more students. 00:33:49
Uh, yes, down the line. 00:33:56
So this. 00:33:58
Conditional use permit again would just allow her to have. 00:34:00
Three more students. 00:34:03
Up to 10. 00:34:04
Per session. 00:34:05
Ability to do 2 sessions. 00:34:07
Per day within this time frame. 00:34:10
We did talk about quite a bit on drop off and. 00:34:14
Pick up. 00:34:18
So this map here just indicates. 00:34:19
So the red section. 00:34:22
Is. 00:34:24
Entry ways to driveways. 00:34:25
So those areas are not supposed to be parked. 00:34:27
No card needs to be parked there. 00:34:30
The blue areas. 00:34:32
The are permitted to have cars parked. 00:34:33
Uh, temporarily while they drop off, uh, their. 00:34:35
And we have had. 00:34:39
Discussions and concerns about. 00:34:41
Folks dropping off people and crossing the road. 00:34:45
So it is. 00:34:48
Recommended by staff that. 00:34:50
The umm. 00:34:52
The applicant. 00:34:54
And shows that. 00:34:56
All students that are being dropped off. 00:34:57
You know, join. 00:35:00
Getting through this route. 00:35:02
You know, potentially from. 00:35:04
Glandular West pensa through three. 00:35:06
230 S. 00:35:09
And. 00:35:11
Density on the right side of the road so they can just. 00:35:12
Park and safely drop off their kids. 00:35:14
In there and there's going to be. 00:35:18
Based on what we have been discussing with there. 00:35:20
For the owner, there's going to be always someone up front to receive students that are being brought in. 00:35:23
There's there's not going to be. 00:35:28
Anyone. 00:35:30
Driving into the driveway. 00:35:32
To drop off kids. 00:35:34
There is a concern of safety. 00:35:35
When they're backing out. 00:35:36
Uh, you know, want to make sure all the kids that come in here are safe? 00:35:38
So here. 00:35:44
Standard conditions of approval. 00:35:45
Yeah, we recommend that we. 00:35:48
Include as part of this. 00:35:51
Staff, one of them, the highest being that. 00:35:53
The applicant ensures that safety. 00:35:57
Of all students that are going to be dropped off and picked up. 00:35:59
Area. 00:36:03
So we recommend. 00:36:06
The approval of the conditional use permit. 00:36:08
Application as presented with the. 00:36:12
Conditions provided in this. 00:36:14
And here's a simple motion. 00:36:18
For your consideration. 00:36:20
OK. Thank you. 00:36:27
Is there any questions? 00:36:30
From the Commission that they have for staff. 00:36:31
Yeah. 00:36:35
OK. 00:36:38
Anthony. 00:36:39
Patient if you go back to. 00:36:41
The next one. 00:36:45
Yes. 00:36:47
Didn't get a chance to look at. 00:36:48
Sure, what age is? 00:36:51
It's preschool, but what ages? 00:36:55
Put our stuff up and, uh, please introduce yourself. 00:37:00
My name is Holly. 00:37:03
Hello umm, 3 and 4 year olds. 00:37:04
OK. And so they have to be 3 or 4 on September 1st, the year that they would be attending? 00:37:07
Cool. Yeah, I would say that this is not. 00:37:14
Unprecedented. 00:37:17
And then that might be a double negative. 00:37:19
But I live in the Hampton and I've. 00:37:20
Room down the street. 00:37:23
Someone does this? 00:37:26
Per minute out of their basement. How familiar are you? 00:37:28
With that. 00:37:31
Preschool. 00:37:32
So. 00:37:35
I want to say it it is approved. 00:37:36
By right in every house. 00:37:37
As long as there's less than 7 and so. 00:37:39
The only reason they're here is to potentially go above 7. 00:37:42
First off. 00:37:46
Commend you for your integrity there. Good job. Because I assure you there's a lot of preschools here who just. 00:37:47
Do it. 00:37:53
So. 00:37:54
Thank you for doing that. 00:37:54
Yeah, that's a good point. But, uh. 00:37:58
Yeah. 00:38:00
Is a good idea. 00:38:02
Yeah. 00:38:04
How? 00:38:07
How do you ensure? 00:38:11
That Excuse me, Thank you. 00:38:14
How do you ensure? 00:38:16
That pinch will be dropped off. 00:38:19
In the appropriate locations. 00:38:21
I will be out front. 00:38:26
For drop off answer pick up. 00:38:28
And we stand on the front porch of the home. 00:38:30
For um. 00:38:33
For pick up. 00:38:35
And for drop offs they actually. 00:38:36
Park on the curb and walk. 00:38:38
Their child at the door. 00:38:41
And then the child comes in the door. 00:38:42
Umm. And so. 00:38:44
That's where I don't think anyone would be on the curb for longer than about 3 minutes. 00:38:46
To walk into very close door. 00:38:50
But umm. 00:38:53
You know, with winter weather. 00:38:54
But, umm, they'll, we'll be standing kind of under the. 00:38:58
Whether whatever weather there is under the the protection and so I'll be there and. 00:39:01
I mean I have 5. 00:39:05
Students right now and. 00:39:06
I know that opening it up to more people I don't know. I know all of them. 00:39:09
Ever I I try to have a good relationship with all of the families. 00:39:14
And I think that it's kind of one of those things where it's like. 00:39:18
If you if you present it As for the safety of. 00:39:21
I think there's kind of a community desire to keep their own kids safe. 00:39:24
And it's kind of like if you'll do it for my kid, I'll do it for your kids. So I'm hoping. 00:39:29
Umm, but of course. 00:39:33
I've I've worked in the public school system for. 00:39:34
20 years. 00:39:37
And pick up and drop off is a fun little experience of like curve rage is what we call it. It's very different than road rage. 00:39:38
But it takes some families are going to do what they're going to do. 00:39:45
And so if there is, I will um. 00:39:48
You know. 00:39:51
I don't mind. 00:39:53
Talking to families over and over again about it because it really is about safety. 00:39:54
And I want the kids to be safe. 00:39:59
Excellent. Yeah. 00:40:00
I'd like to add that ever since she. 00:40:01
Got an issue in the business license to start operation. We haven't received any complaints. 00:40:04
Yes, and. 00:40:09
We have also observed that things are looking good in that area. 00:40:11
So that's really not. 00:40:14
Everything too. 00:40:16
For sure, can typically. 00:40:21
Preschool time frames are not. 00:40:22
Busy. Anyway, there's like 9. You're probably doing like 9:30 to 11:30 and 12:30 to 2:30. 00:40:24
So. So yeah. 00:40:30
It is a needed service. 00:40:32
Thank you. 00:40:34
Umm, even though this is not a public hearing, if there's any comments by. 00:40:37
Public welcome to share it right now. 00:40:42
OK, OK. Come on up. 00:40:46
I just have one question, Daria Evans. 00:40:51
Do you have ladders? 00:40:54
In your window well, so children can get out. 00:40:56
OK, wonderful. Thank you. 00:40:59
OK. 00:41:05
If there's no other. 00:41:06
Discussion. 00:41:08
I'm willing to entertain a motion. 00:41:09
Uh, next motion. 00:41:12
I move to approve the conditional use permit as presented and discussed. 00:41:13
Wonderful. 00:41:17
Give me a second, I will second that. 00:41:18
OK, all in favor say aye. 00:41:20
Aye, any opposed? 00:41:22
Alright, passes unanimously. Thank you. 00:41:24
All right, let's move on to our next item, which is #6. 00:41:29
Char our work sessions. 00:41:34
So the first one will be the station area plan. 00:41:36
Or SAP for the cool people. 00:41:39
Um, this is a work session. 00:41:41
So there's no action. 00:41:44
Needed right now. 00:41:46
But we're here to. 00:41:48
Share the presentation and give feedback. 00:41:50
Thank you very much. 00:41:58
Commissioner. 00:42:00
That's me again. 00:42:02
Continue station area plan. 00:42:03
OK, so back in 2000 and. 00:42:06
2022. 00:42:10
The state legislature. 00:42:12
Pat H. 00:42:15
HB462. 00:42:19
Which pretty much among. 00:42:21
The many things. 00:42:24
What we're interested in here is the. 00:42:25
Patient area plan. 00:42:28
But it does have have moderate income, health and plan changes. 00:42:29
Changes to. 00:42:35
Pessary drilling DNA and stuff like. 00:42:37
And then other. 00:42:39
Other. 00:42:40
Among, you know, a host of things that were passed. 00:42:42
Our interests of a stationary plan. 00:42:45
Now. 00:42:47
This is intended to. 00:42:50
Increased availability of. 00:42:53
Affordability, availability and affordability of. 00:42:56
Howson promotes sustainable environmental conditions and hands. 00:42:59
Access to opportunities and, you know, destinations. 00:43:05
As well as increase. 00:43:08
Transportation options and connections. 00:43:11
Now us. 00:43:13
Part of this. 00:43:14
This bail as part of this bill that's been passed. 00:43:17
Every city that has. 00:43:20
And I found on the station to make it, you know, basic a foreign affix. 00:43:23
Uh, rail station. 00:43:27
Is required to plan. 00:43:28
Half mile radius. 00:43:30
I'll have a station area plan half an hour radius. 00:43:32
Around that station. 00:43:35
And that's why it's very beneficial to vineyards. 00:43:36
It's going to bring in, you know, a lot more housing. 00:43:39
I'm going to bring in jobs. 00:43:44
You know better economic development. 00:43:45
More transportation options, public spaces, and, you know, more placemaking. 00:43:47
What you need to eat in the city. 00:43:52
And, uh, regional benefits, umm, it's, it's just. 00:43:53
Falls in line with Wasak Vision 2040. 00:43:57
Which trends toilets having a more polycentric. 00:44:01
Style development in the Valley. 00:44:07
Which simply means that you have various centers that connect to each other through transit. 00:44:09
Where people can live, work and. 00:44:15
Live, work and worship. 00:44:18
And it also aligns with. 00:44:22
Uh, vineyards. 00:44:24
General plan. 00:44:26
It's very beneficial, so. 00:44:28
To give you a site. 00:44:30
If I contact this. 00:44:33
Area right here, the red section of the. 00:44:35
Current station. 00:44:37
We're talking about the front. 00:44:39
We're on a station. 00:44:41
And based on the requirements. 00:44:42
We are Linux director to. 00:44:44
Plan this area out, which is about 400 and. 00:44:47
30 acres. 00:44:51
Of land. 00:44:52
While key elements to this. 00:44:56
Umm, keyframe, you know. 00:44:58
So this framework. 00:45:00
For this AP. 00:45:01
Is to maximize development potential. 00:45:03
Land use, you know, have. 00:45:07
Land uses be more mixed-use commercial. 00:45:10
And also bring in some residential opportunities. 00:45:13
Now mind you, all these umm. 00:45:15
Uh, illustrations that I have shown in this presentation and in the plan is not cast in stone. 00:45:18
As you know, there's an ongoing land remediation and. 00:45:23
All these things would take. 00:45:28
What kind of uh. 00:45:30
What kind of use may be permitted when? 00:45:31
20. 00:45:34
So. 00:45:38
This map right here shows to the right shows the. 00:45:39
The the major Rd. connections that are going to be in this area. 00:45:44
The plan is. 00:45:48
To the city envisions having a. 00:45:49
A grid system. 00:45:52
Which would. 00:45:53
Enhance better connectivity for residents and visitors. 00:45:55
To have better access to. 00:45:58
Various destinations and communities that will be created in this area. 00:46:00
And, umm. 00:46:04
We also on the left. 00:46:05
Have the map showing connections of extended DRT. 00:46:07
Line but uh. 00:46:12
Traffic. Transit. 00:46:14
Line that exists. 00:46:15
And also serve. 00:46:16
U of U and the city. 00:46:19
Better when that place is developed. 00:46:21
The whole idea is. 00:46:24
Well, this plan is to ensure. 00:46:25
That. 00:46:28
We have at least, you know, the main, the main roads, the collector. 00:46:29
Uh, sets and stone, I mean. 00:46:33
Spent in such a way that. 00:46:35
We plan. 00:46:37
And develop around that, however, the local roads, the secondary roads that you see. 00:46:40
In this area if you can see my cursor. 00:46:44
Would be one that could change based on the kind of use and golden account in. 00:46:46
So this umm. 00:46:57
On this slide, you're gonna see that we have on the on the. 00:46:58
On the. 00:47:01
Plan where? 00:47:02
And vision. 00:47:03
A lot of open spaces and amenities that connect to each other. 00:47:04
We currently have on the right map. We currently have the. 00:47:08
The green line that is on the construction we have. 00:47:12
One of the parks. 00:47:15
Almost complete right now. 00:47:16
And that connects. 00:47:18
Seamlessly to the. 00:47:20
Vineyard Beach Park, which is also in planning. 00:47:22
And uh, I mean in permitting to be. 00:47:26
Built in the future. 00:47:29
Sure, the whole idea here is to. 00:47:30
Have a connection that goes. 00:47:34
Over to the east. 00:47:36
Then. 00:47:38
It's an Eva, you know, going over. 00:47:41
The Vineyard station. 00:47:45
Through using your property we. 00:47:48
Consultant would then be excited about having a green loop go through their. 00:47:50
Uh, property. 00:47:53
And have a seamless connection that allows for. 00:47:55
You know a better trail system. 00:47:59
And, you know, open spaces that will create more spaces and places where people can. 00:48:02
Interact and. 00:48:07
Have a better sense of community. 00:48:09
Traverse City. 00:48:11
So. 00:48:14
In the plan we have, you know. 00:48:16
In in in the summary we have. 00:48:19
To implement this, we need to establish the right way. 00:48:22
That I've spoken about. 00:48:26
Having to collect the roads be. 00:48:27
One that for instance the Mill Rd. be extended all the way. 00:48:30
And we all know that's going to be there. 00:48:34
However, the other ones are going to be the. 00:48:37
The local or secondary roads are going to be. 00:48:40
Further determined as developments come in because. 00:48:43
These are gonna. 00:48:47
Bring in businesses such as biotech. 00:48:48
Industries some medical uses. 00:48:52
And, umm, other potential uses that could. 00:48:54
Could umm. 00:48:58
Lump up more than one parcel and you know, have it be much bigger than it is and. 00:49:01
Not really have a need for. 00:49:07
More local roads going through. 00:49:10
They're going to be the need to update the zoning. 00:49:12
To make it necessary to realize this vision that we're. 00:49:14
Looking to have. 00:49:18
There's going to be an ongoing coordination with property owners and. 00:49:21
Property owners, residents and any stakeholder that we have. 00:49:27
In this plant area. 00:49:31
To ensure that. 00:49:33
Were in line with what we are agreeing on through this framework. 00:49:35
And also prioritize city infrastructure projects. 00:49:39
To better align and connect seamlessly. 00:49:42
While establishing design standards that work. 00:49:47
Don't work for the city. 00:49:52
And the city is also going to support and. 00:49:53
Work closely with DEQ as remediation efforts continue to happen in this northeastern area of the city. 00:49:57
So this slide here shows the current zoning on the left. 00:50:04
Which is FYI, Flex offers industrial. 00:50:09
And original commercial. 00:50:12
Around and the right is what is being proposed. 00:50:15
Yeah, sorry. 00:50:21
Just to clarify on the right, it's not Zoe that's land use that you would see in a general plan. 00:50:22
So zoning would come a much further down down the line. 00:50:27
Land use. Thanks for the correction again. 00:50:32
Land uses down the line. 00:50:35
Now looking at the land use. 00:50:38
That is being proposed on the right side. 00:50:40
You can tell us the mixed-use, uh, commercial section which. 00:50:43
Allow for an opportunity to bring in some housing. 00:50:46
Which could be student house, then it could be. 00:50:51
Work. 00:50:54
How do you call that? 00:50:57
Workforce housing. 00:51:01
To service all these industries that. 00:51:03
May come into this area. 00:51:06
As it further develops and. 00:51:08
In there. 00:51:10
And the the plan here is to ensure that there's. 00:51:11
A seamless connection. 00:51:15
And uses to whatever whatever is being planned in the UVU area and also crossing over to the downtown part of. 00:51:17
The city. 00:51:26
So that's the last, umm. 00:51:29
Official is just to give you an idea of a taste of how. 00:51:31
This plan is going to. 00:51:35
Employ some good urban design principles. 00:51:38
You know, having the. 00:51:41
The building's come up to the edge of the road. 00:51:43
You know, having the side. 00:51:45
Dwight enough and bike paths and everything go. 00:51:48
Through on the side of the road. 00:51:52
Just pretty much have a more complete and interactive St. 00:51:53
That you'll stay. 00:51:57
For all users. 00:51:58
While having access to many amenities and. 00:52:00
And destinations along the. 00:52:05
The corridors. 00:52:07
Now the next thing I want to talk about that has. 00:52:11
Necessitates that this. 00:52:13
Work session is. 00:52:15
We need. 00:52:16
According to the. 00:52:17
Umm, so the HB. 00:52:19
462 We need to have our plan. 00:52:21
Certified. So the station area plan has to be certified. 00:52:25
By the local. 00:52:28
MPO which is Mac in a in. 00:52:32
In our case. 00:52:35
Now. 00:52:36
The process here is. 00:52:38
Mag expects us to have. 00:52:40
Umm a pre approval or a? 00:52:44
Some sort of a support? 00:52:47
From the City Council saying. 00:52:49
We are in support of. 00:52:51
Approval saying that we're in support of. 00:52:53
This plan that we're preparing. 00:52:55
We wanted to move forward. 00:52:57
To the next level where we would adopt it. 00:52:59
Had implemented eventually. 00:53:01
Now we're having. 00:53:04
Work session today. 00:53:05
Planning Commission. We're going to have another one in City Council next week. 00:53:07
And then come back. 00:53:11
To Planning Commission. 00:53:12
On September 17th with an updated plan that shows all the feedback. 00:53:14
You know, information that you you shared. 00:53:21
During the. 00:53:24
During the work session for. 00:53:26
Both Planning Commission and City Council. 00:53:28
And also. 00:53:30
As the City Council, I mean, I mean that. 00:53:33
September 17th meeting you're going to formally recommend? 00:53:35
The City Council to pre approve. 00:53:40
Which is another adoption the the plan. 00:53:42
They're just saying we support it. 00:53:45
To allow. 00:53:48
Us to officially submit. 00:53:49
A draft to Mag. 00:53:52
At this point, Matt is going to review everything. 00:53:54
And provide. 00:53:57
For us. 00:53:59
To be incorporated into the plan. 00:54:00
We're shooting to have. 00:54:03
Our plan be reviewed. 00:54:05
In November, On November 19th. 00:54:08
Of this year. 00:54:10
And to do that, we should have we should have our. 00:54:12
Plan submitted. 00:54:15
Tonight. By October. 00:54:16
5th which is 45 days before the meeting time. 00:54:18
So, um. 00:54:22
After that is done, you will then. 00:54:25
Have a certified and come back to the city. 00:54:29
Where? 00:54:32
Would have a. 00:54:33
Public hearing. 00:54:35
Of the final draft. 00:54:37
After I've been certified. 00:54:39
By Mac and formally adopt. 00:54:40
The plan by City Council. 00:54:43
Thank you for your time, Sir. 00:54:47
Perfect, thank you. Uh, this is a work session, so it's just free. 00:54:49
Flow of questions and comments. 00:54:53
Umm, I only have a couple. I want to say I think this is really well done. I've seen plans like this. Some are poor, some are. 00:54:55
Great assist. 00:55:01
I think you're a great one. I think it's done really well. 00:55:02
I particularly enjoyed going through the plan. 00:55:05
Being like the protection of. 00:55:08
View corridors, you know, items like that. I'm glad they were included in that. They umm. 00:55:10
When this eventually gets developed out that those will be protected. 00:55:15
So. 00:55:19
Thank you for including that. 00:55:19
A question about the SAP. 00:55:21
MIDI, who makes up that committee? 00:55:22
So the committee is made-up of uh. 00:55:27
Mainly mayors within Utah County. 00:55:29
So it premieres within the NPS, specifically our county and there's. 00:55:32
An SAP project, so I believe our Mayor Fulmer is the. 00:55:37
She's either the chair of the vice chair. 00:55:42
She's about to show you. 00:55:44
Wonderful. Thank you. 00:55:46
OK. 00:55:48
Any comments? 00:55:49
I have several questions. 00:55:50
Go for it. 00:55:53
Can you ask me for why we recommended? 00:55:54
Umm moving to like the flex commercial including residential within. 00:55:57
That area. 00:56:02
Sure. So if you look at this, you got to look at it. 00:56:04
Like this is more of a like high level land use so. 00:56:07
Anything that would entitle gland at the other legal rights to have residential or to have commercial or to have some sort of use 00:56:11
comes through resilience. And so that would happen kind of in the future. The idea here was to keep it broad enough. 00:56:16
That we would be able to work with the university, work with the property owners, because there's a few property owners there and 00:56:22
the city to have a general layout of what what could happen there. 00:56:27
The idea with residential is not to have downtown duplicated. 00:56:33
But to potentially have because we do have a lot of interest. 00:56:36
Several hospitals. 00:56:39
So I see. 00:56:41
Our HDI. 00:56:42
The Husband Cancer Institute. 00:56:44
On the University of Utah is working out a deal right now for a Health Center. And there's, there's, there's, there's a few others 00:56:46
that that we can't say that that we're talking to. So there's that concept of creating what's called like a, a medical village. 00:56:52
Or you put losses, medical uses in one location and you provide amenities and things of that nature to help. 00:56:59
Build some sort of like a neighborhood of a TV. 00:57:06
Where they also have the ancillary types of retail and service uses businesses that that that can help them function. 00:57:09
And so we we felt like within kind of that red. 00:57:17
Zone if there were to be. 00:57:20
What we're calling for. 00:57:22
Forced housing. Housing that would accommodate the the the employees of the site. 00:57:24
And that's also a, uh, a strategy for, uh, transportation is trying to. 00:57:30
Couple the employment with with housing. 00:57:34
So you're not going to see downtown, but potentially you could have a place where, you know, doctors, nurses or students. 00:57:38
That are working and. 00:57:44
Of you know, being trained on site also have have some some level of housing. 00:57:46
So we haven't specified that's what the zoning would do. So if we came forward with the zoning. 00:57:50
Than in the zoning you could say, OK, we want to designate like this area for workforce housing. 00:57:55
Umm, so we kept the genitals like that. I would say kind of the main point of the the red. 00:58:01
Piece is to provide. 00:58:05
For those like ancillary services for the medical uses for the university. 00:58:07
There's a lot of interest in getting some sort of a commercial laundry. 00:58:13
Universities plus, like the hospital. 00:58:18
Particularly have a lot of need for for laundry services and things like of that nature. 00:58:20
Uh, and then we are looking at creating some sort of like a neighborhood. 00:58:24
Center, so a place where they're like restaurants and fun things to do because you will have the university there. So that might 00:58:28
be like. 00:58:32
The 1200 and Mill Rd. intersection you probably would identify once you get further down the planning process. 00:58:37
Of kind of what like maybe one or two of those intersections that can be? 00:58:43
Be kind of like a. 00:58:46
Like what you see, it's not like like a 9th and 9th, something that's a little bit more vibrant that dedicated to college students 00:58:47
to cater to people, come, come out through shifts. Look at that. 00:58:51
OK, you might ask. The answer is zoning. Zoning will later. This pastor keeps the vectors later, OK. 00:58:56
Yeah. My concern with that was reading it so broadly though is that we lose some of the tax base, I don't think so hard to gain in 00:59:02
commercial. 00:59:06
And we would be replicating It sounds like a. 00:59:10
Almost have a replication of Utah City. 00:59:13
Uh, so I guess that was my. 00:59:16
Concern there and then there's a course of somebody's living there. You've got all the additional ramifications of. 00:59:18
A parking and trying to resolve all of those things. 00:59:24
And when I was originally envisioning this and this is. 00:59:27
Obviously taking a different. 00:59:31
Trends and what I have envision. 00:59:33
Was that that? 00:59:35
Commercial area would be more like what? 00:59:36
I don't know like. 00:59:40
Saratoga Springs ended up building all of their commercial stuff together, and then the housing was kind of I'm not. 00:59:42
Not saying that that was their right, but at least it's all. 00:59:48
Tendons in the area that it makes sense and you can go and do. 00:59:51
You can go and do all of your. 00:59:55
You're big box. 00:59:57
Type of shopping in one area and it's a lot of variety. 00:59:58
And since this area has to be. 01:00:02
Uh, cleaned differently. 01:00:06
That seemed like a good spot to hold. 01:00:08
The majority of our commercial yeah we are so to to address on your client. 01:00:11
So, uh. 01:00:15
At the corner of. 01:00:16
Umm Mill Rd. 01:00:19
And 800 N and select the. 01:00:20
You show that. 01:00:24
Yeah, that and potentially even some of that flex office towards like the main intersection. 01:00:25
That that's an area that's being preserved. 01:00:30
Four of those types of uses, things that were bigger boxes in nature, you know, towards the Costco or we wouldn't get another 01:00:32
Winco, but you know, it's like like like those types of large. 01:00:37
Practice facilities No Rd. most likely if you Fast forward 10 years from now. 01:00:42
Is going to be kind of the major type of commercial. 01:00:47
Intersection Mill Road and Vineyard Connector. 01:00:51
You look at Geneva, you think, oh, Geneva is going to be it. Geneva is going to get faster and faster. It's going to be a full 01:00:54
blown Hwy. It's it's like a banger Hwy. at that point. It's not the kind of place you're going to easily just. 01:00:59
Pull off so I actually mill Rd. is going to be more of like. 01:01:04
I don't want now that we duplicate the architecture of pastry, but it's going to be more of the State Street type. 01:01:07
Right. Mm-hmm. 01:01:13
Like main collector. 01:01:14
But not a highway. 01:01:15
So, so anyway that that's where those types of uses are being, umm, kind of. 01:01:17
Designated is in that area like a placeholder. 01:01:21
For larger retail. 01:01:24
And do you know umm by any chance? Because we need to report a lot of this too is also to answer. 01:01:27
The moderate housing needs a matter of cost. 01:01:33
One of the Utah. 01:01:37
Umm, regulation or they consider moderate housing in Utah? 01:01:39
Yeah. So it's based off of 80% am I, so am I is area median income. 01:01:43
I have to look at the sense. 01:01:49
Especially there's like 100,000 in Utah County OR. 01:01:50
Yeah, that's not showing for us. They were showing like Vineyard with 100 and then and Utah County was like 95 ish. But I was 01:01:54
curious what the Utah standards that large is? 01:01:59
Yeah. So you take 80% of area median income and then it's like. 01:02:03
30% of. 01:02:07
What their income is can't be. 01:02:09
It it can't go over that for how? 01:02:11
Mm-hmm. OK. 01:02:13
And we will be give those specific numbers, but it's it's. 01:02:14
Basically that, but they can't utilize more than 30% of their income. 01:02:16
So that's what you would designate that, right? 01:02:21
I was just wondering how. 01:02:24
How feasible that would be to attain? 01:02:26
And then what are the standards that we have to maintain? 01:02:28
And Vineyard. 01:02:31
For offering that modern housing. 01:02:32
Yeah. So every year the legislature comes out with these requirements, we do process a moderate income housing report, Anthony, 01:02:35
actually overseas kind of the housing planning for the city. 01:02:40
And so we're. 01:02:46
There's there's several elements that. 01:02:47
We we can choose from, they do look at our general plan. I'm not sure exactly what the if you guys want to, we could even do like 01:02:50
a work session sometime because it's such a big issue on housing. 01:02:54
And we can go over our our own policy, but we have several. 01:02:58
Housing. 01:03:02
Initiatives within our general plan. 01:03:04
And some of those are like pairing your housing with transit. 01:03:06
To transit and housing are some of the biggest costs, especially when you're low income. 01:03:10
And there's a lot of instances you'll see that there are 50% of someone. 01:03:15
Uh, household income is for castration and so if you compare the pair, the two together. 01:03:18
Affordable housing. 01:03:23
With transit. 01:03:24
Then there's there's a lot of benefit to kind of the lower income brackets. 01:03:26
And so that that's that's one of our big initiatives. 01:03:30
Also Utah City. 01:03:33
Received approval of what's called the. 01:03:35
HTRV zoning designate or it's a state housing designation. 01:03:37
And what that does is it actually requires that I believe it's. 01:03:43
11.2%. 01:03:47
Of their units. 01:03:50
Have to be. 01:03:52
Designated actual designation. I believe that's on the deed. 01:03:53
Where they have they, they can't rent. 01:03:57
Above kind of the 80% AMR. 01:03:59
And so you'll, you'll see some of that, that, that occurring and then there's a state agency that that manages. 01:04:04
And and we have to provide reports. 01:04:10
So there's at least right now, there's not like. 01:04:14
So they don't say a city has to have like 10% of your housing stock has performance category, but they do have lots of initiatives 01:04:17
and you have to adopt those initiatives and show progress working on them. 01:04:21
OK. 01:04:26
I know that's a big topic statewide, so. 01:04:27
Thank you. 01:04:30
Give us another question. 01:04:32
Thanks. You're up. 01:04:34
Thank you. 01:04:37
Umm, given that this is. 01:04:41
Certified. 01:04:45
And will be. 01:04:47
How much flexibility will there be in the future? How much? 01:04:49
As conditions change in the city. 01:04:53
And we can. 01:04:56
Economic conditions change. 01:04:58
Fluctuate how much flexibility? 01:05:00
Will the city have in the future? 01:05:03
Any flexibility to? 01:05:08
Ensure that they. 01:05:11
They followed these this framework. 01:05:12
Or could you clarify your question? 01:05:14
Yes, Sir. Are are are you saying uh like flexibility and like they have to follow the plan 100% or the city like as market 01:05:18
changes? 01:05:21
We can actually both, yeah. Yeah. So if you look at this like a. 01:05:25
Look at it like a general plan. 01:05:28
Do you have a general plan which is a very high level 3050? 01:05:30
You have landed designations. Generally we're going to do. 01:05:33
Anything. That's essentially what an SP is. 01:05:36
Except that it drills down like a level, probably below a little closer than what a general plan is. 01:05:39
And so still like, this is a what we call a living breathing document. You hear that a lot. 01:05:44
It's supposed to change. 01:05:50
And so this is one of the things just like our general plan we've made since. 01:05:51
I've been here like 9 years. 01:05:55
I think we've made like 5. 01:05:57
Presidential changes to our our general plan. 01:05:58
Because you wanna make it consistent. You like. 01:06:01
Politically too, I mean, you can have a new council. 01:06:04
Um, it it, you know, in in the coming. 01:06:06
And they're, they're, they're going to see changes and you're gonna have. 01:06:09
Residents move in and they're going to see changes and. 01:06:12
You know, there's going to be advances in technology and things like that that that will motivate and and be kind of. 01:06:14
You know, things that that could. 01:06:20
So it doesn't. 01:06:23
It doesn't like. 01:06:24
Lock us in. We're able to make changes, but generally it provides us as. 01:06:25
The the ability to anticipate infrastructure, which is really important for the team and his team because now they know. 01:06:30
Mill Rd. is an approved plan. It's in a stationary plan. It's on the transportation master plan. 01:06:36
1200 N is the road that we have, we have to build, and then it gives us the general. 01:06:41
Direction that we want a grid system. 01:06:45
Maybe there's a really large hospital that that comes in just like a smaller Rd. get get kind of taken out or to get rerouted. 01:06:47
So we know the major infrastructure and we know that the general idea. 01:06:54
Is that there's a grid system, so there's good flow, good access and by from a mobility standpoint. 01:06:57
So so yes, like. 01:07:04
We are able to change but. 01:07:05
Generally with the plan you you wanna try to follow it. 01:07:07
And unless. 01:07:10
You know. 01:07:11
Like some low sugar stands as I mentioned come up. 01:07:13
And just after that, the specification process requires that. 01:07:17
Remote add things every five years. 01:07:20
To the flight. 01:07:22
Just to make sure we're meeting the current demand of. 01:07:23
Living in the city. 01:07:27
Pretty much it. 01:07:29
So there is a review plan. 01:07:30
A review schedule. 01:07:32
Built into the fair inspections of this every five years. 01:07:34
OK. Oh, I wanted to mention to Natalie brought the latest plan about not just like retreating the Utah State project overnight 01:07:37
could see that. 01:07:41
Uh, I, I, I think with zoning, see that's one of the things as they build out and they come in for zoning. 01:07:44
You don't need the powerful tool. You can write in a limit to number of residential units. You can. 01:07:50
Specify exactly where you want residential. 01:07:56
And so it's one of the things that you only wanted like 5% of the overall footprint to be residential. 01:08:00
Bazillion provides you that that ability. 01:08:05
Typically, you're gonna work with like, the property owner to make sure that you're not, uh. 01:08:07
You know, like. 01:08:11
Go ahead, go ahead. Kind of take away the vision of progress, but you do have a lot of controls from a residential standpoint, 01:08:12
from the zoning standpoint to control residential. 01:08:16
And one of the things. 01:08:23
Since I'm I missed? 01:08:25
Is and all the reasons. 01:08:28
High but over reptilian. Are we considering this? 01:08:32
4 Pills 4. 01:08:39
I think it's important to remember that. 01:08:43
The city is not. 01:08:45
Developing. It's just. 01:08:46
We're setting a table. 01:08:48
Once a chef comes who wants to cook a dinner and put it on it, they're welcome to do so. We just want to make sure the table is 01:08:49
set appropriately. 01:08:53
Let's go at the market would probably determine. 01:08:56
When it's happening. 01:08:59
Yeah, that's it. So it's contended to be long range and the market district. 01:09:03
To see how things go. So we're looking 5:00 to. 01:09:07
20 years. 01:09:10
OK. 01:09:13
So I I guess the point of the question. 01:09:15
Was. 01:09:18
Was to understand that this is a long. 01:09:20
Project. 01:09:23
So this is. 01:09:25
The pen is going to be used the word visionary. 01:09:27
But anything I think over 10 years is. 01:09:31
Visionaries. 01:09:34
Yeah, OK. 01:09:36
On this side of the dais, anyone? 01:09:41
OK, umm. 01:09:45
Pages 27 through 29 of. 01:09:46
Plan that itself. 01:09:49
Has the summary of. 01:09:51
Umm, I remember attending within your days and putting stickers on boards. 01:09:52
Umm, that's when I first met. 01:09:57
And um. 01:09:58
I like seeing OK, this is what the results were, this is what the community wanted. 01:10:01
And there was overwhelming. 01:10:07
At least. 01:10:09
With the sample size. 01:10:10
Desire for. 01:10:12
Open space in nature. 01:10:13
Do we feel like this plan? 01:10:15
Adequately addresses that the recommended uses there. 01:10:18
Would we also throw in a zoning requirement where the zoning. 01:10:22
Does have that certain percentage of open space in nature? 01:10:26
Yeah. We think the plan addresses that adequately and we have been coordinating with the. 01:10:31
Property owners. 01:10:36
Of the area. 01:10:37
To also. 01:10:38
Potentially plant towers. 01:10:40
Meeting this requirement by the plan. 01:10:42
Wonderful. 01:10:45
Yeah, and, and and just like, umm. 01:10:46
The vocal, I mean, I, I don't know what the square footage is going to be the most likely you're going to see like a flop of what 01:10:48
downtown is. And so it might be. 01:10:51
Well, even more than that from a. 01:10:55
Like a residential the commercial standpoint. 01:10:57
So you might have 5 to 8%, maybe 10% residential. 01:10:59
What we were trying to do is pair like parks. 01:11:05
Where there's there's there's residential, but. 01:11:07
We do the idea of the green loop. 01:11:11
Is a really good one. Even if you're an industrial district, we still want. 01:11:13
Really great cycling infrastructure and by blocking infrastructure in those places. 01:11:17
Love that. 01:11:22
Umm, yeah, that's the other thing that's. 01:11:23
Shown here. 01:11:26
Is what do you want? Do you want places for cars or do you want places or? 01:11:27
People and here it. 01:11:31
Was overwhelming. 01:11:33
Multi-use path. 01:11:34
Walking and jogging paths. Active transportation. 01:11:35
Which I I think. 01:11:38
It's very consistent with the. 01:11:41
Land use that is called out there. 01:11:43
So that's really well done. Clearly there were desires here. 01:11:45
If I'm focusing on, well, what did the community. 01:11:50
Hey, but. 01:11:53
Why I'm doing that? 01:11:54
Because there's no point of doing this if you're not doing what community? 01:11:56
That they wanted. 01:11:59
They wanted. 01:12:00
Mixed uses they want. 01:12:01
Umm Oh yeah, here's for the I Want to Work maker shop here. 01:12:03
They said what do you want? Do you want entertainment? Do you want community and cultural arts? Do you want parks and nature? 01:12:08
They're just a person, nature. 01:12:13
That's it, going all in on that. 01:12:14
So I think that. 01:12:16
Fantastic. They want housing. 01:12:17
They want not so much office and industry, but retail, food and beverage. 01:12:19
When you have. 01:12:23
That kind of architectural style. 01:12:25
That attracts more of a retail. 01:12:26
Food and beverage. 01:12:28
Use rather than. 01:12:29
My industrial complex. So I think this is really well done. 01:12:31
So thank you. 01:12:37
Umm, I would love to hear. 01:12:39
From our neighbors in the public so. 01:12:42
Are there any? 01:12:44
Comma after coming up. Can I ask one other quick question? 01:12:45
Umm, just in light of that, the. 01:12:50
Parks and Greenway, thank you for all of that. Are there any kind of plans for adding? 01:12:53
Barriers for where the front runner goes alongside. 01:12:58
Housing areas, any kind of trees or. 01:13:02
Sound barriers, anything to make to beautify that a little bit, make it more pleasant. 01:13:05
For the people that live there, somebody brought that question up online and I was like, oh, that makes a lot of sense. I'd like 01:13:10
to know. 01:13:12
What are our thoughts? 01:13:15
Process is run up. 01:13:16
Oh yeah. 01:13:18
Yeah, so. 01:13:20
We've uh. 01:13:21
We passed some discussions in regards to improving that the corridor. 01:13:24
Along the valley, California, which is on the West side. 01:13:29
Uh, of the railroad. 01:13:32
In terms of landscaping and any other improvements, you know, vertical landscaping. 01:13:35
Walls and so forth we are. 01:13:40
We are all of our staff, our arborist George Tramp, who's working on actually brings a number of towns together and, and going 01:13:42
through like the list on our, our, our tree, uh. 01:13:47
Patrick Emmanuel to ensure what what we'll what we'll thrive in those areas. 01:13:52
As well we've been also we also have discussions with ETA. 01:13:57
Who's our president of other front runner direction? 01:14:00
The double tracking as well. 01:14:04
Uh, we have any scheduled, uh, later. 01:14:06
Uh, with them. 01:14:11
Uh, on that and, uh. 01:14:12
And we are also working on. 01:14:14
Of working on our future budgeting as well. 01:14:16
You know those those types of actions can be like not attached to their plan on paper, but it's. 01:14:24
It's something that can be, uh, you know. 01:14:29
Or implemented. 01:14:31
But not just implemented, but may change. 01:14:33
So I think I. 01:14:37
Those things are Ironworks. 01:14:38
I can get 5 put together. 01:14:40
Bring you up out you would like to. 01:14:43
Thank you for future meeting. I think that's your name. That's great. Yeah. I think that's a good thought to think about. Of 01:14:45
course, you have being beautiful and right, and we're gonna have so much more. We wanna increase transportation, possibly light 01:14:50
rail in the future, like thinking about how that works then. That's great. 01:14:55
Thank you and those are totally good comments. We always appreciate feedback, uh, from, uh, from the Commission, from the public 01:15:00
and. 01:15:03
Anywhere else? 01:15:06
OK. Thank you. 01:15:07
No one from the public. 01:15:09
Come on up. 01:15:11
Hi, Please wait again and a couple of. 01:15:20
Quick questions. 01:15:22
Umm. I was under the impression that the, uh. 01:15:24
That area was being cleaned up and the department. 01:15:27
Of the accused, you know. 01:15:31
Yeah, the standards were going to it was it was such as being cleaned up so that. 01:15:33
It was such that. 01:15:37
Suitable for. 01:15:38
Habitation in terms of living there, you certainly have businesses there and. 01:15:40
And and, you know, stores and whatnot public could come and go. 01:15:44
It wouldn't be a place that would be suitable for. 01:15:48
For housing. 01:15:50
Uh, much of that land. So that was, that was a. 01:15:52
So we haven't heard about that for a long time, but but you know, four or five years ago, I remember that was the discussion. 01:15:55
That's one question is, is that changed? 01:16:01
Uh, or is that? 01:16:03
Is that if we consider that? 01:16:05
And the second thing is, is that, uh. 01:16:07
Now we. 01:16:10
We got about 25% of our of our. 01:16:12
Turn off my income from sales tax. 01:16:15
Um, Oram for example gets like. 01:16:19
4243%. 01:16:21
10. 01:16:24
And we we pay twice as. 01:16:26
Much. 01:16:28
Uh, sales in property tax rates here are in our, our city, our tax rates. 01:16:29
Twice that. 01:16:33
Of OM. 01:16:35
For that four times that approval. 01:16:36
Umm, we we. Initially, this plan was set aside by the. 01:16:38
City Fathers is a place to build. 01:16:42
Businesses that will allow us to generate. 01:16:45
Sales tax that could that could support the city. 01:16:47
Uh, right now we're, we are, we are the highest taxed. 01:16:50
City in Utah County. 01:16:54
We have the highest. 01:16:56
Property tax rate. 01:16:58
In Nixon County and and. 01:17:00
And I, I think as we put in more people up there, I, I, I that's sort of a resolution. 01:17:02
That's an unusual kind of thing. And they'll they'll pay property tax, perhaps, but they're not gonna. 01:17:06
But we're not gonna. 01:17:10
Probably get an increase in the overall funding. We all have the same higher taxes to be able to support that. 01:17:12
So I'm wondering what are what are we doing? What what part of the plan? 01:17:17
Will allow us to be able to. 01:17:21
To decrease our reliance upon property tax just to run the city. 01:17:24
Will Alice be able to have some other other sources that would be appropriate? 01:17:30
Umm is that is that been planned for? I, I don't I'm not seeing it. So if you could put it out that would be helpful. 01:17:34
Thank you. 01:17:40
Thank you. 01:17:41
OK. 01:17:43
Anyone else from our audience? 01:17:44
Yeah, please. 01:17:47
I I just had a quick question. 01:17:53
You hear your name? Oh, sure. 01:17:54
My name is Preston. 01:17:57
Uh, Vineyard. 01:17:59
So. 01:18:00
Um, with the. 01:18:01
Vineyard, an actor. That's the one that's. 01:18:03
In terms of 800 N right? 01:18:07
Yeah. So I have interconnected from North. 01:18:09
Um, there's kind of like a a raised. 01:18:11
Like mound of dirt I was. 01:18:15
I was thinking that was actually going to be like a. 01:18:16
Probably where the Greenway is on this. 01:18:19
Uh, anyways, I was wondering what that was. 01:18:21
That's that's my first question. 01:18:25
OK. 01:18:28
Uh, and my second question is. 01:18:29
Uh, is 300 W ever going to pair? 01:18:31
What's up in your connection? 01:18:33
Alright. 01:18:35
Thank you. I'm making the follow these questions. 01:18:36
Alright, anyone else? 01:18:42
All right. Thank you. 01:18:46
Um, couple. 01:18:48
So the quick ones. 01:18:50
What's the dirt in your connector and? 01:18:52
Will it ever pair with 300 W? 01:18:54
Do you know that? 01:18:58
So there's there's a. 01:19:04
Gosh, I see what I want to talk a little bit. 01:19:07
So there's a, there's a couple files there's. First of all, there's what's called the, uh. 01:19:09
The the camera, the CMU unit, I'm going to show that. 01:19:13
Right there, yeah. 01:19:19
That's a, uh, like a certified area materials unit. 01:19:20
And so that's a place where. 01:19:24
We've, uh, as the cleanup has occurred, so really like nasty material. 01:19:26
That needs to be capped. It's like a. 01:19:31
Click a landfill buffer Soil. 01:19:33
And we have a view corridor protecting the view of the camera, right? Yeah, yeah. 01:19:35
And there's potential, yeah. If you, if you go, if you go up on a cameo, you. 01:19:39
You got all your beautiful actually. 01:19:44
You can use it for certain uses, and so that's one of the things that we'll probably look at umm, doing some planning efforts. You 01:19:49
can't plant up there and so it is kind of limited umm and so it. 01:19:54
But there are certain things you can do and if maybe we added. 01:20:00
Uh, some reinforcement to it or something like that? 01:20:04
So that that that is one site, there's on the other. 01:20:07
Uh, if you go. 01:20:10
You do that. We do have some piles right here. 01:20:12
Uh, uh, when the downtown area. 01:20:15
Portion of you. 01:20:18
Copy was cleaned up. 01:20:20
Essentially my understanding that they have to scrape like 6 to 8 inches of the topsoil and that's. 01:20:22
The area where it it is. 01:20:28
Being maintained. 01:20:30
That was a lot less. 01:20:32
Like dirty or polluted of an area, but it did require removing some of that soil. 01:20:34
So I'm not exactly. 01:20:39
Sure. I believe what the question was referring to was like the. 01:20:41
Piles of dirt that almost look like hills that are immediately off of. 01:20:44
Vineyard Connector that you can see as you're driving in and correct me if I'm wrong. 01:20:48
Once everything's developed, they're probably not going to be there. It's going to be graded out. 01:20:52
There. No, it's there. 01:20:58
Stockpiles. Almost. 01:21:01
Oh, I'm sorry, yeah, we're building okay. 01:21:05
Yeah, so there's so there is a promenade. 01:21:12
That will extend from the train station. 01:21:15
And so it's it's. 01:21:19
Being built right now. 01:21:20
So the translations here, the idea is you come out. 01:21:21
And there's a an urbanized park. 01:21:24
So it'd be a place with like restaurants and so as you get off the front under stations like an urban Plaza. 01:21:28
Umm. Then there's a Market Street, then there's another um. 01:21:34
Park area and then they get bigger. 01:21:38
Here is like for our aquatic centers to be a larger like 5 acre park. 01:21:41
And then there is. 01:21:45
Like a pedestrian slash vehicular overpass. 01:21:47
Tex Mex. This block of the prod to the lake. 01:21:50
Portion of the promenade. 01:21:53
So if I'm not in sentence, you know a linear collection of parks that are connected. And so we're building that. So we have a 01:21:55
little lot. 01:21:59
Yeah. So one one thing I'd encourage you to do. 01:22:04
Uh, after the meeting is. 01:22:07
Get one of those. 01:22:08
Four guys over there, their cards or their emails. 01:22:10
And they can send you what the concept plan of Utah City will be, this thing that's up there, because then you'll be able to see 01:22:12
what the eventual future of that proposed development is. 01:22:16
Umm, and then can you show? 01:22:21
What 300 westerns in your connector looks like. 01:22:23
Just briefly, yeah. So what 300 W will do? 01:22:26
Is, well, it's pretty much in a very close alignment to what it will be. 01:22:31
But as you see it goes NS orientation to a new. 01:22:36
It makes that hard laugh. 01:22:41
This will be a roundabout. 01:22:43
Right here. 01:22:45
And the Lake Rd. will be aligned. 01:22:45
To connect into that roundabout. 01:22:48
And then there'll be an over. 01:22:50
Path that we just talked about. 01:22:51
That'll occur right here. 01:22:53
And so you'll have a. 01:22:55
Umm, a leg here. 01:22:56
And then this leg and then plus your N leg to the to the road. So that's. 01:22:58
So connecting to basically. 01:23:02
Around about and then have a connection into the downtown area and northward along the way. 01:23:05
When it comes to David's questions about the area being cleaned up, not suitable for housing. 01:23:12
I mean, that's mainly that kind of area. Everything else there will be. 01:23:21
Feasible for development? 01:23:25
Umm, so. 01:23:26
There so, so, so they're working right now. So, so right now as the permit stands, it's cleaned up to what's called a commercial 01:23:29
standard. 01:23:33
And so you can build commercial, you can do residential in some instances if it's not on the ground floor. 01:23:37
Umm, and then you have to have like vapor barriers. 01:23:42
I'm not sure of all the construction techniques, but there's certain there, there's there's certainty that you can do that. I 01:23:45
would allow residential. 01:23:48
There are areas because they have studied. 01:23:52
This entire uh. 01:23:56
That would be suitable if if potentially if they even amended their environmental permit. 01:23:57
And so it kind of depends on. 01:24:03
How much? 01:24:05
You know if this. 01:24:06
Squeeze is worth the juice if you want to go go through that process. 01:24:09
But they can in some instance. 01:24:12
Now do residential, but not on the ground floor. 01:24:13
But there are areas where you wouldn't want residential regardless. There's also lots of. 01:24:17
Concrete structures that are just. 01:24:21
Extremely heavy and deep in thick. 01:24:23
Umm, we even there's the story of what they tried to dynamite one of them. 01:24:26
And it was like this. 01:24:31
Huge concrete mass that went I think it's like 30 feet subtrans. 01:24:33
So they they when they die, the dying light. 01:24:37
If you lifted the the structure up by 4 feet and then it just dropped down, it's going to break apart or anything. 01:24:40
So it, it, it's pretty stepping. So we are like, that's why there's a lot of flexibility built into this because those may be like 01:24:46
parking lots where you just can't live there, maybe you. 01:24:51
You build an entire building because they're like, great. 01:24:55
Foundations for built for buildings on. 01:24:58
So there's a yeah, you can see right here some of that. 01:25:00
Some of the foundations. 01:25:02
Uh, but yeah, they they would have to go through a process. 01:25:04
With the EQ to do residential and then there are. 01:25:08
Depending on where they're at and where the residential is located vertically within the building. 01:25:13
Great. Thank you. 01:25:18
Umm. And then the last comment, uh, just about. 01:25:20
The smart city type of practice. 01:25:23
Smart Growth about How do you fund a city? How do you pay for a city? 01:25:26
I think it is worth having a section of that in the plan. 01:25:31
Even though this is for a specific area. 01:25:35
Just to show how. 01:25:38
As as communities grow. 01:25:39
They always start predominantly residential in order to pay for services. That means property tax and then once you get enough. 01:25:41
People living there. 01:25:47
You have enough customers. 01:25:48
Her businesses to even want to come. 01:25:50
As businesses come. 01:25:52
The city received more sales tax. 01:25:54
Which allows them to lower. 01:25:55
The property tax. 01:25:58
So when it comes to here, I think allowing residential. 01:26:00
Absolutely, because if you don't allow any residential there. 01:26:04
Businesses aren't gonna come. 01:26:08
I don't think we. 01:26:10
Have. 01:26:11
Sufficient. 01:26:12
Population. 01:26:13
To attract the kind of big box stores that we're staying. 01:26:15
If big box is still a thing 20 years from now. 01:26:18
It may not be. 01:26:21
Unless Amazon has a big box store. 01:26:23
You know, but. 01:26:24
Allowing. 01:26:26
More customer base there. 01:26:27
Actually increases our chances. 01:26:29
Of higher sales tax. 01:26:31
This becomes more of a philosophy. 01:26:33
Discussion. Uh, but I think it. 01:26:35
Might be worth including a little bit of that in the plan just to see how it all connects together. And we are doing our economic 01:26:37
development strategic plan, which marries up pretty much with this plan. So we have, we, we haven't. 01:26:42
Kind of we we worked with both the plans together. 01:26:48
And So what that plan does is it does a lot of what Dave kind of addresses, what Dave's concerns are is. 01:26:51
Ensuring that we preserve areas for economic development, for employment. 01:26:57
Umm, yeah, If you look at just even like the hospitals, like land landing a few hospitals. 01:27:01
The employment base that there is going to drive a lot of eateries. 01:27:06
It's gonna drive a lot of the cancellation haircuts. People go on their lunch break, we get haircuts and think of all those uses. 01:27:10
So we are kind of in a plan as you saw kind of that light blue area. 01:27:16
That that surrounds the the red, the the language portion of it. 01:27:20
That all that is preserved. 01:27:25
Just employment, commercial retail. 01:27:27
And then the the the red is preserved in areas where you could do some residential. 01:27:31
But even then, the idea is that those are more like community standard type. 01:27:36
Type Type retail. 01:27:40
But potentially. 01:27:42
You know does like what really does creating that area on Mill Rd. in your connector for for the big box. 01:27:43
And so, uh, we definitely are, are, are looking at it and we can add some language to just to just to kind of ensure we're 01:27:49
consistent with details. Yeah, yeah. 01:27:53
OK. 01:28:00
This was work session any other? 01:28:02
All right. 01:28:07
Thank you. 01:28:08
For that. 01:28:09
Alright, we're moving on to our last item of the evening of work session for the Vineyard Regional Trail Enhancement Project. 01:28:10
So. 01:28:16
Time is yours for that now. 01:28:17
So this one, just like the previous one, is a work session. 01:28:29
Uh, where it's talking. 01:28:32
Alright, thank you. Uh. 01:28:35
Commissioner Vern spring up the presentation. 01:28:37
And. 01:28:42
One second. 01:28:45
Alright, here's a view mode. 01:28:47
Great. 01:28:51
All right, Good evening. Uh, so. 01:28:53
The smarter thing, Andorra. 01:28:55
I'm here. I'll be presenting on the Vineyard Regional Trail. Handsome project. 01:28:58
So. 01:29:01
Just want to type it up. 01:29:04
For public works, were you? 01:29:07
Provide, uh, provide us the same essential services to a business welfare and. 01:29:08
Acceptable call your license today will be focusing on the quality of life. 01:29:14
Uh, aspect. 01:29:19
Uh, chapters, uh. 01:29:21
You know, uh, broke after breaking my 5000 chapters versus just sections now. 01:29:23
Uh, but uh, we have, uh, the card summary we'll go be gone over. 01:29:27
On the but in short, however. 01:29:32
And your city has been working on a Vineyard regional trailing house for projects that. 01:29:35
I started way back. When was it after transportation master plan? 01:29:41
And this. 01:29:46
Project itself, where we've identified. 01:29:48
Thanks. Thanks for having US regional cell number. 01:29:51
Provide favorite crossings for pedestrians. 01:29:54
Support Pro. 01:29:57
Near an existing plan activity center, the. 01:29:58
Yeah. Good thing about this is we we received funding. 01:30:02
For this project initially through Mac. 01:30:07
In 2023. 01:30:09
And we're moving forward on it. We've got. 01:30:11
Uh, the funding came from federal funds and the projects coming on. 01:30:15
So just to start off with its alignment. 01:30:20
So this project is a regional trial. It's a lot we're kind of focusing on. I want to make sure that we've spoke. 01:30:23
Revival to the. 01:30:28
Active Active transmission master plan that was. 01:30:30
Worked on and approved. 01:30:34
Many years ago I believe in. 01:30:37
2020, two, 2000 or 2023 and. 01:30:39
I do not drive a revision in the book. 01:30:43
Uh, we won't talk about that. I put, uh, I just. 01:30:46
The snapshot of the actual transmission match plan, which is available on our website. 01:30:48
And talked about the network recommendations and. 01:30:53
South, uh, South Park Vineyard. 01:30:56
And the arrows there I identify the two locations. 01:30:58
The two locations that were. 01:31:01
That the regional Trail Enhancement project is is over at. 01:31:03
Center St. and. 01:31:08
Uh, holy Rd. 01:31:10
Right by Gavin Park. We did a We previously did an announcement. 01:31:11
There years back, but I was at inter uh, internment. 01:31:17
This what we'll be talking about is. 01:31:22
The permanent fulfillment enhancement. 01:31:24
As the number 4 as well as #14. 01:31:27
Which is Lakeside Park and South. 01:31:30
If you've any foreigner, South. 01:31:33
Where we have another. 01:31:35
Planned enhancement on that. 01:31:37
I want to re reiterate that that we've been able to do this project, not not the loan by ourselves, but through partnerships. 01:31:39
OK, there we go. Must be the now place my head. 01:31:47
About your partnership of Covenant City, I, you know, we're identified as a project champion and we've uh, and uh, provide 01:31:52
matches, uh, the initial national funds. 01:31:56
Uh, we can't do this without that warm city. Uh, sometimes we. 01:32:01
You know, as much as we choose five sometimes, but like, that park is within Orland City. 01:32:04
But they've been a great partner and. 01:32:09
In and neighboring cities all. 01:32:11
Southland Association of Governments. 01:32:13
Then we were they've been working with us. 01:32:15
From the very beginning as a regional planning organization and. 01:32:19
And as well as the Funding Agency. 01:32:22
The dot is involved in this. They're they're providing our project management. 01:32:25
For this project specifically. 01:32:30
Because the next partner with the. 01:32:32
The US Department of Transportation. 01:32:34
Is the is the primary Funding Agency? 01:32:36
Uh, without, uh. 01:32:41
That figured out the dotd involved in this project as well, which again. 01:32:43
Having VOT as a partner is always. 01:32:47
And uh. 01:32:50
The last person we have on there is Consular North America, who is the design engineer. We, uh, rely on our government agencies as 01:32:51
we rely on our private, uh. 01:32:56
Uh, price that our contractors and consultants and we do have the pleasure of having Mason. 01:33:01
Pressure, Who is the lead design? 01:33:06
His honor on this project. 01:33:09
So let's just time jump into the first, the first. 01:33:12
One on this kind of working backwards since I. 01:33:16
Don't know how. 01:33:18
Uh, good question. 055 location #14. 01:33:19
Uh, we have. 01:33:23
We've been working on this particular uh. 01:33:25
Uh, Charlie Heffner. 01:33:28
Is 400 S and 620 E intersection which is at Lakeside Park. 01:33:30
The major components on this is. 01:33:35
We've been focusing on topic safety through designing and. 01:33:38
Designing and our. 01:33:43
To, uh, a traffic signal, A full way traffic signal. 01:33:45
Upgrade parking signs. 01:33:48
We've worked with Orange City to realign the northern section into Lakeside Park. 01:33:50
Which is into that parking lot. 01:33:56
Uh, any happening with enhancements with ADA rounds, the sidewalks? 01:33:58
Of course, you know, making sure that the landscaping into the park is maintained and put back or. 01:34:01
And are you telling us one of the things? 01:34:09
You're looking to turn its, uh, structure. 01:34:13
So this is what the the intersection currently looks. 01:34:16
Uh, what's my? 01:34:20
As you can see, now you have a. 01:34:20
Doctor Free in engineering terms, Intersection. 01:34:24
The north side. 01:34:27
Uh parking lot entrance does not align with the South side uh. 01:34:29
Uh, railway. 01:34:33
And it does provide. 01:34:34
Conference for the drivers we live there, the city that. 01:34:39
Move forward with our initial enhancement by. 01:34:43
Building a curve out. 01:34:47
On the South corner. 01:34:48
Years back, back years back in 2023, I believe. 01:34:49
To provide to allow for cars to. 01:34:53
Uh, stop further north. 01:34:56
OK. And be able to have a better side business, but also. 01:34:58
Protect this phone. 01:35:01
The great part about the proposed. 01:35:02
On the design. 01:35:04
And I hear the child of the vine. 01:35:06
And that's where you maintain that goal out to ensure that we're protecting that protection school kids. 01:35:08
Eric, go on a call I'm not. 01:35:15
Now here's the here's the design that we currently have. 01:35:17
And the UH is in Danville. 01:35:20
If you have any questions. 01:35:23
Please feel free to ask during the presentation I guess workshop. 01:35:24
And uh. 01:35:28
So the. 01:35:29
Design shows a four way intersection. 01:35:30
Uh, uh, standardized. We're we're traffic signal. 01:35:34
The crosswalks, uh. 01:35:37
We're adding a crosswalk along the. 01:35:39
You've been along the. 01:35:42
Uh, Westlake, which is on the West side, uh, as you can see, there's no good place on the existing. 01:35:44
Uh, configurations of your crosswalk on the. 01:35:51
On the left side we do have one on the north side, one the east side and One South side. 01:35:53
So what this does is it sits in, it allows us to use pedestrian crosswalk. 01:35:58
At all four. At all four sides. 01:36:02
Alright, so, uh. 01:36:04
This allows us to do a proper goals out on the east, on the east side of the southeast side. 01:36:06
Uh, uh, where we do have a grain structure and that drainage structure, that time, uh, cause. 01:36:13
Like uh uh, it is a lot of work to move into structure. 01:36:17
So take an opportunity to uh. 01:36:21
Two way line now. 01:36:24
As well as. 01:36:26
As you can see the. 01:36:27
Uh, with the interaction. 01:36:29
On the. 01:36:31
OK, Sir, As far as with the intersection. 01:36:35
Like cars coming out there, like that park. 01:36:38
You can return right or left. 01:36:40
This this new design allows cars to go straight as well. 01:36:42
Oh, no. So we've, uh, been, we've, uh, been happily enhanced. 01:36:46
Interception. 01:36:49
Uh, providing for pedestrian, uh, pedestrian safety. 01:36:51
As well as improved vehicle and after. 01:36:54
On that, uh, I can stop here if anyone has any questions, I have a question. 01:36:58
Uh-huh. Umm. Can you remind me what the plan is for street parking? 01:37:02
And how will that be removed? 01:37:06
So I end up with a question now so. 01:37:08
Terminally, uh, with, with this configuration? With this configuration the way. 01:37:12
Have, uh, handled. 01:37:16
This cars parked along the streets along here. 01:37:18
We've and I'll go ahead with. 01:37:22
Let's find all my replies that we get. We have significantly has requested with honesty when this project. 01:37:26
Is implemented. 01:37:31
That, uh. 01:37:32
That's that. No shoe parking is allowed along the whole length of the park on the South side of the park. 01:37:33
So we're, we're, we're still working with them. 01:37:39
Attention that. 01:37:41
Because what is that? What the way that intersection of the line? 01:37:43
You know cars cannot safely. 01:37:46
Park along the street right. 01:37:49
As well and cars maneuver along St. 01:37:50
In October and so. 01:37:53
Working with RSA to. 01:37:56
My service, Great, that's perfect. 01:37:58
Yeah, that's just it's. 01:38:00
Family address because of that. Umm. 01:38:01
Do you know the timing for? 01:38:03
Test made from your supplication of this. Yes ma'am, it's uh. 01:38:06
So we start, uh, we find our start instruction and. 01:38:09
Spring of 2026 and would expect it to be complete. 01:38:12
By the end of summer had 2026 as well. 01:38:17
That's OK. Thank you. 01:38:20
Any plans? 01:38:24
To do anything to Vineyard Rd. 01:38:26
Where right now there's a lot of on street parking during tournament days or right now the project is. 01:38:28
Focus solely on this intersection. 01:38:32
So this project still is focused on the transaction itself. But to answer your question on that on Vineyard growth, the growth 01:38:34
that goes on the east side of Lakeside Park, we had, we've had discussions with Orange City our last meeting. 01:38:40
On that and I know the city manager working with the. 01:38:47
With Brian Audrey, Parks Director, Racker. 01:38:53
Uh is working with uh. 01:38:56
Orange City to expand their parking lot. 01:38:57
And to and like that park. 01:39:02
And we've also had discussions with the ARM City in terms of what we can do too, because that's. 01:39:04
Like whereas record are you talking about? 01:39:08
Along Lakeside Park is. 01:39:11
Technically on today. 01:39:13
I wouldn't want to say. 01:39:15
So we've offered on if they would just give it to us, we'll fix. We'll fix it for us. 01:39:16
That's all. 01:39:21
But that was not quite as bad. 01:39:22
But I mean so bad. But to me it's like not as dangerous as the one where they're all on. 01:39:24
400. 01:39:28
I I feel like there's more coupons in your Rd. There are more people in there. I would agree with you, but. 01:39:30
Uh, I guess it's wider and there's the middle lane so that we've got some area to go around, but. 01:39:35
One of our one of our proposed solutions to Orange City programs, parking. 01:39:39
Oh well, I never heard as well. 01:39:43
So that again there there. 01:39:45
What's that to do with? 01:39:48
But OK, I don't want to take on the cost. 01:39:49
Right. Well, I like the idea of having it. I I've never I'm, yeah, I mean, I'm not, I'm not part of uh, can you ever copper making 01:39:52
this way? You don't have to sometimes. Sometimes. 01:39:58
Is supervised for the quality life of residents. You know, we, we do what we need to do. 01:40:05
OK. 01:40:09
Yeah, I I would only do that if you can also pick up the. 01:40:10
Stores and businesses, OK. 01:40:13
Got you. OK. So that's this is somewhere that particular? 01:40:17
Project, uh, going on to the next. 01:40:22
Uh, location location #4. 01:40:23
Center Street if I. 01:40:26
As I said, pointing here, I've been out. 01:40:27
Uh, so uh, Center St. and South Rd. 01:40:30
I've been compliant with Traffic Safety, traffic and safety. 01:40:34
Design Movie Designer install and. 01:40:37
How to install hot system the hawk? 01:40:41
Overhead flashing. 01:40:44
Uh, their, uh, highest base in essence, uh. 01:40:45
To ensure visibility for. 01:40:50
Improved markings for signage. 01:40:53
A passive extension. 01:40:56
Uh, that takes you into the park. 01:40:58
Versus better than you and to. 01:41:01
Rock right now ada ramp and halfment to ensure that the. 01:41:03
You know, people can ask us not just the ramp, but they access the trail. 01:41:08
And forth. 01:41:14
And last ending concludes all. 01:41:16
Uh, here's the current existing condition automatically again. 01:41:19
That, uh. 01:41:22
Pedestrian Refuge Island was built by the city because we we knew that there was a urgent need. 01:41:24
However, we did not have fun for a full world project. 01:41:31
So we were able to do that. 01:41:34
Who are the great news? 01:41:36
Nathan here. I've been trying that. We're able to, you know, reutilize that for a few times. 01:41:38
Was was minimal to. 01:41:44
Changes. 01:41:46
On that, uh, here's the current design that we have. 01:41:48
On that, uh. 01:41:51
Byway, so north is, uh, N is. 01:41:53
On. 01:41:56
Uh, she's on the right hand side. It's just easier for you to actually see the full. 01:41:57
And then the gambler parked on this on the left on on the left side of the screen. 01:42:02
But this is a overhead hawk system. 01:42:07
So that's to go there so highly visible for vehicles. 01:42:10
Driving. 01:42:16
Yeah, park the right place. 01:42:17
Cop bar for cars to stop. 01:42:19
Uh, investing right here is called a blackout. 01:42:22
Time and it's assigned to for cars that are. 01:42:25
On Holloway Rd. 01:42:28
I go north turning a lot. 01:42:30
They'll be able to actually see when the. 01:42:32
When the hot signal is active. 01:42:35
OK, so. 01:42:38
Which is usually the hardest part of the hawk system when it's right by intercession. 01:42:40
When we had that hop. 01:42:45
Main Street and 400 S or 400 N Tuesday. 01:42:46
It was hard for cars that were coming on. 01:42:49
You know that weren't driving perpendicular to the hot caches for the hawk system. 01:42:52
So Mason here. 01:42:57
Was able to design this where it can actually function. 01:42:58
Uh, for, uh, for cars on all three bikes. 01:43:02
On that and as you can see with the trail. 01:43:05
The blue line shows the retaining wall. 01:43:08
That's been shifted in order to provide for proper Ada access. 01:43:11
Forward the crosswalk. 01:43:15
As well and then the trail. 01:43:17
Right here. 01:43:21
Goes into the gamut, goes into Gammon Park. 01:43:22
Uh, so right now the trail. 01:43:25
And just sort of this, uh, of the driveway. 01:43:27
And we really have a park parking lot. 01:43:31
Which sidewalk to nowhere is never a sidewalk. 01:43:33
So no and. 01:43:37
We've recognized that and then Nathan was able to take. 01:43:39
And make the grading work and so forth to provide for. 01:43:43
People utilizing NHL. 01:43:47
Live Controlling. 01:43:50
And to an existing shelf system. 01:43:51
As well. So in short that do you have any questions on this as well? 01:43:53
I'm under. 01:44:00
Yeah, yeah. And I think you have a question you may not know the answer to because it's a little bit of a. 01:44:01
Umm, an offshoot, but. 01:44:06
Umm, do you happen to know what? 01:44:07
Like the? 01:44:09
The pills you are if you don't. 01:44:10
After that's like the ticketing penalties. 01:44:12
Because I have seen people work for these, it's such a problem. 01:44:14
And I would love for it to be egregious. 01:44:18
I think like I've agreed just OK, uh, I. 01:44:20
Yeah. So yeah, these are, you know, these are red lights by long you need. 01:44:24
Stop buyers, actually. 01:44:28
There's no closing on this like. 01:44:30
Yeah, satellite, same as red light with the raining actually looks like 300 hours because it's an overhead now it is a traffic 01:44:33
light, right? Because right now it is in and people just blow through it. I don't, I don't cross until I meet people's eyes. 01:44:40
So, umm, that's, that's really helpful. I just wanted to. 01:44:47
Yeah. Curious if it's it, I was either that because of that brand. 01:44:50
I love it. That's good. 01:44:53
Lot more of them. 01:44:55
No, no, that's good. Thank you. 01:44:57
So it's a great plan. I'm glad you didn't know the answer because I mean I haven't run for many websites. 01:44:58
So many again the version of this I forgot clarity on that. 01:45:06
And then we do have a thing here for future. This is in the works of Vineyard Mountain Bike Park. 01:45:12
Uh, it's currently unofficial and. 01:45:18
The partial rec director by as well. 01:45:20
Writing has been working to make that distinction. 01:45:22
Happened things like this. 01:45:26
Alright, Gannon Park on the on the South side. 01:45:28
As well as like you know other parks and connections, the parks and so forth is their main drivers to why. 01:45:31
This these enhancements are. 01:45:36
You know, high priority. 01:45:39
Uh, not just to give me today, but to. 01:45:41
Mac my association comments. 01:45:45
Uh, so policy planning alignment just wanted, uh, kind of reiterated. 01:45:48
And here's a snapshot of our. 01:45:52
Transportation now supply on which was today earlier today. 01:45:54
We are advancing pedestrian bicycle connectivity, provides productive direction, treatment, high demand, quality and improved 01:45:58
vehicle. 01:46:02
And possession operations. 01:46:06
And is also aligned with the. 01:46:08
Not the Land Association. 01:46:09
The government bag. 01:46:11
Of building recreational properties again outside of our transportation ash plan. 01:46:12
Shows a generalized interstruction. 01:46:17
Now here at the Lakeside Park. 01:46:20
Uh, nothing, no either intersection there, but. 01:46:22
Again, transportation master plan is not a pedestrian master plan. 01:46:25
But but again, we want to make sure that we're alive for us. 01:46:29
We're all on here with, uh. 01:46:32
To both as as a transportation master planning presentation. 01:46:34
Uh, for that are specifically stated that. 01:46:38
Encountered for adaptive transmission master plan while there was. 01:46:41
While they were developing the transportation stash plans. 01:46:45
But is aligned with that. 01:46:47
Catches the Active Transfusion master plan. 01:46:49
For these corridors. 01:46:52
On there again. 01:46:53
As you can see loss of numbers on there. 01:46:54
There's a lot more projects for us to work on. Wake up to active transportation match plan. We hope that. 01:46:57
Keeps working on and then do as many as possible. 01:47:02
The great part about this? 01:47:05
Again, came to fruition. 01:47:07
At 1:00 here, talk a little bit about the budget. We have estimated deposit costs of one point. 01:47:09
Uh, $5.8 million. 01:47:14
For both uh, uh, realigning, uh, the. 01:47:17
Driveway into the lakeside park. 01:47:20
Does come with yeah, does come with cost as well. 01:47:23
I'll now be received federal funding. 01:47:26
Of 792,000. 01:47:29
That they have an approved budget. 01:47:31
$95,000. 01:47:33
Towards this project. 01:47:35
And. 01:47:36
Uh, we have another $934,000. 01:47:37
Request into into Mac. 01:47:41
Which should be which is pending the October 2025. 01:47:43
It does go through 2 cycles. 01:47:47
On that, but we we received an initial. 01:47:49
Approval of the funding. 01:47:52
Oh no. Uh. 01:47:54
But that even says out of this clerical error on the first on on on that. 01:47:56
Uh, we have to go through the processing. 01:48:02
I got really glad what you was about transferring us to accountability. 01:48:04
So we're happy to do that. 01:48:06
The timeline on this, we expect funding. 01:48:08
Excuse me? Yeah, we have. We got the funding back in 2020. 01:48:11
They couldn't do anything with it because it's a federal funding. 01:48:14
And it was FY25 fund. 01:48:17
On the federal government. 01:48:20
Alright, that's from the Safe Routes to School. 01:48:21
Excuse me, uh, for all. 01:48:24
Uh, uh, grab. So we have to wait till the federal fund, federal money drop. 01:48:26
Which was? 01:48:31
And October 2024. 01:48:32
Uh, that's when we started at the end of the darn. 01:48:35
Mason comes out and when you're working on that. 01:48:37
Those designs were probably 90% right now. 01:48:40
And then with those. 01:48:44
The construction drilling. 01:48:47
What will be handled through DOP? 01:48:48
Uh, since it is a since it does have the real money attached to it. 01:48:50
We started, we decided to go out for a bit in December 2025. 01:48:54
Where they're starting construction start. 01:48:59
And 20,026 and ended summer 2026. 01:49:01
Oh, no, it's gonna slide. I'm sorry. 01:49:06
I think it's always great when the city can spend less than 100 grand on a $1.8 million project. 01:49:08
Good job finding every. 01:49:15
Possible source money favor. 01:49:16
Oh, yeah, no, that's like we have we for this. We have all the players. We had the, I know we have planning. Morgan and I, we were 01:49:18
on the bus to, you know, convince the Orange City that this is a great project. 01:49:23
On that I might remember that. 01:49:29
Pretty good. Of course we have like, you know, we have our other engineers. 01:49:32
Orange City. 01:49:37
They did talk, I did very high, but out. 01:49:40
But uh. 01:49:42
Well, like, uh, OK, but uh. 01:49:46
I appreciate that I do have a bonus line just. 01:49:48
You know, can't go without the bonafide but. 01:49:51
You did have to get quite some good questions, uh. 01:49:54
To explain that which I talked about. 01:49:56
Pre Anthony undeveloped by but. 01:49:59
With, with, with our partnership, we're working on this. 01:50:02
Yeah, we really will have all pushed. 01:50:04
The inner city and our cities working together and expand the parking lot at Lakeside Park. 01:50:06
Again, the same manager and our personal director are working on. 01:50:11
Actively working on that. 01:50:15
Experience that he has requested the Orange City recording along for FL. 01:50:17
Because it doesn't make sense. 01:50:21
Uh, especially the diet. 01:50:23
Uh, Hazard, not just for. 01:50:25
Vehicles material obstacles as well. 01:50:29
RSW and Venus City is working on a design for a dedicated bike lane. 01:50:31
A lot of four South. 01:50:35
From calling from Geneva Rd. all the way into the whole right field. 01:50:37
On that, so we we talked about. 01:50:41
Like a couple like last week or two weeks ago or after these. 01:50:43
Their volunteers were. 01:50:48
Work. My undoing, uh. 01:50:50
Designers and house uh with through Orange City. 01:50:52
And being able to implement that. 01:50:55
Uh, I believe. 01:50:57
And we're hoping for the next construction season. We want to make sure that we're aligned with Orange City. 01:50:59
On that because you don't want to do our side. 01:51:04
And then like a sidewalk that goes nowhere. 01:51:06
I'd like to rain at this. 01:51:08
Approximately the hospital number. It does make some better. 01:51:10
And then? 01:51:13
Our last discussion was out. 01:51:15
Honestly, whether or say we were discussing that the venue elementary parking lot. 01:51:17
Realignment is in the works right now. 01:51:22
So as we kind of went back. 01:51:25
To uh oh, it's on the, it's on this, but, uh. 01:51:28
That's the parking lot that, uh. 01:51:32
The teacher parking lot. 01:51:34
That is just. 01:51:37
Uh, off that of leaner Rd. 01:51:39
Uh, just north of uh, Geneva or just West of Geneva Rd. So. 01:51:41
Whatever working on kind of diary line. 01:51:46
So it's more. 01:51:49
Yeah, just just like we're good. 01:51:51
Just like realigning the park. 01:51:53
They're driving through the park. 01:51:56
This this driver would be a real line as well. 01:51:58
So again, that's taking care of a lot of, uh. 01:52:02
Uh, legacy I guess. 01:52:05
Uh, complex and roads come out, development and so forth. 01:52:06
We do our best to lookout. 01:52:10
Look forward to the future. 01:52:12
And and unfortunately, again, we don't know what has crystal. 01:52:14
Now we'll begin 56. 01:52:18
And the island is no more. I don't think I have a both item material. 01:52:21
Yes, I do you have two bonus slides. Uh, uh, this is a summary. 01:52:24
Uh, on that one, and this is a stock picture. That's that, yeah. 01:52:30
Crosswalk Yeah. We, we want balance, uh. 01:52:33
Pedestrian. 01:52:37
Safety. A longer vehicle. Vehicle air access. 01:52:39
For this as well and I think this project. 01:52:42
Does this plan talk to to do that? 01:52:45
And again, it's with our partners and valuing our public partners, but our. 01:52:47
Private consultants as well, they're great. They're great ideas for the table. 01:52:51
That's great. Thank you so much. 01:52:56
Any other questions or comments that we didn't address during the? 01:52:59
Presentation. 01:53:02
OK, ma'am, members of the public anywhat thing. 01:53:04
Come on up. 01:53:07
So I do have a question about the the last. 01:53:15
Issue that I've seen that you mentioned that. 01:53:18
It's a great idea to realign that. 01:53:21
This teachers parking lot. 01:53:22
Uh, with the Vineyard Rd. 01:53:24
Also, is it possible to connect? 01:53:26
As part of that or or some other project. 01:53:29
Religious project we somehow signalized that that intersection. 01:53:32
At Vineyard Rd. 01:53:36
With Florida South and Geneva Rd. Warner S They're still very close. 01:53:37
Uh, it almost makes sense to find a way to. 01:53:42
No to to work. 01:53:45
Getting traffic flow to go through a little better there. 01:53:47
Is that so connected on the list too? 01:53:49
Sure. 01:53:51
OK, before addressing it, let's do all the public comments and then. 01:53:53
OK. Any others? 01:53:57
All right, just that one. Can you talk about the? 01:54:01
What future signaling? 01:54:05
The kind of traffic you know. 01:54:08
With be very difficult. Again, it's so close to the dot Rd. that we have to have dot. 01:54:10
Coordination on that and that technically is. 01:54:17
Wednesday. 01:54:21
Yeah, that's, yeah, that technically you don't understand me. 01:54:23
Behalf of it's Orange City and our path. 01:54:26
Point out. 01:54:28
Yeah, so we have. We've had some discussions with the dot as well as Orange City. 01:54:31
Alright as well. 01:54:37
In terms of uh. 01:54:38
Broadway, excuse me, enhancing that particular intercession as well. It's on our. 01:54:40
It is on our assets. 01:54:44
After transportation master plan. 01:54:46
As a as a intersection improvement area. 01:54:48
On that. So I mean in terms of the city, the city has policy, it has direction. 01:54:51
To make those improvements. 01:54:56
And working with Orem City. 01:54:57
Uh, and the DOP, uh. 01:54:59
The DLC news works best up to. 01:55:02
Is respected to. 01:55:04
Proposals and in terms of the improvement. 01:55:07
And then Orange and we join. Our last meeting is open to it as well. 01:55:09
I think that we were talking, we were talking about improvements like through like a gateway. 01:55:14
Yeah, if I can get away, enter. 01:55:19
Into this into. 01:55:21
Interested in to to provide second enhancements for. 01:55:23
Uh, like lighting? 01:55:27
Enhancements for uh, cross, uh, coughings. 01:55:29
Provide introduced. 01:55:32
Energies like. 01:55:36
Obstruction of error. 01:55:38
Obstruction for vehicle coming in where? 01:55:39
Vehicle. A vehicle comes in and doesn't see a date. 01:55:42
Open roadway. 01:55:44
On that and Orange City. 01:55:46
As the current city now has been very receptive to that. 01:55:48
So our next step? 01:55:52
With Orange City on that particular. 01:55:54
Uh, please with me to uh. 01:55:56
You know, and that's come up with both. 01:55:59
First proposals that that work. 01:56:02
And, uh, and I would there. 01:56:04
Design of that bike or their executive bike lane on 35. 01:56:06
And then of course, the strategy is in your side. 01:56:10
That's, uh, that would be. That would be a. 01:56:12
Piece of the puzzle that we don't want this that long. 01:56:16
But now I've I've I've given out. 01:56:18
OK. 01:56:21
Thank you. 01:56:23
OK. 01:56:24
OK. 01:56:25
I I could do seven more items. 01:56:28
On our agenda if we want. This has been a great meeting, so thank you. 01:56:29
I I I hope that was enough. 01:56:33
Feedback for you on the work session. Thank you. Uh, these are great projects and I think. 01:56:35
Everyone would be very grateful for them to be done, so thank you for doing them. 01:56:41
And doing them fiscally responsibly. 01:56:45
OK. All right. 01:56:47
We move on to item 7, which is our. 01:56:50
Staffing Commission reports Is there anything worth reporting on computers of the Commission or staff? 01:56:52
OK, that leaves us to adjournment. 01:56:58
Thank you, Yvonne. We'll adjourn to the next meeting. 01:57:02
Done. 01:57:05