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OK, I'd like to call to order this development Review committee meeting. Uh, it is. 00:00:18
February 20th, 2025. 00:00:25
Umm, it's got 9:03 AM. 00:00:28
Umm. 00:00:31
To a new roll call. 00:00:33
Well, OK, I'll start with you, Eric. 00:00:35
Eric Ellis, city manager. 00:00:39
Brian Vadry, Parks and Rec director. 00:00:42
Chris Johnson, Building Official, Brandon Valley Fire Department. 00:00:45
No, OK. 00:00:52
We will go ahead and jump into the consent items for this meeting. 00:00:54
Uh, can I get a motion for items 2.1 and 2.2 or are there any questions? 00:01:00
All motion to approve Consent Items 2.1 and 2.2 as presented. 00:01:10
First by air, can I have a second? 00:01:15
One second. 00:01:17
Second by Chris. 00:01:19
OK, uh, next on the agenda we have uh, business items 3.1 and 3.2. So let's go ahead and go into 3.1. 00:01:24
Was there any presentation with that or is that just for? 00:01:34
Approval. 00:01:38
I'll think about it 3/3. 00:01:41
Before we go on. So umm. 00:01:44
My name is Anthony Fletcher. 00:01:47
Fine there. 00:01:49
We have here, uh, Lace, who is the representing the applicant representing the. 00:01:50
LDS Church. 00:01:57
Before the two items that we have. 00:01:59
And Chair, is it OK to treat both items as one? Because they're all on one lot, so I'll talk about them. 00:02:02
Together. Is that OK? Yes, we'll do it right. 00:02:09
All right, so umm, just to give a little bit of background. 00:02:15
I want to get you oriented to this spot where. 00:02:20
They proposing the project. 00:02:23
So this is going to be. 00:02:28
Uh, located apparently. 00:02:30
1700 W and 575 S. 00:02:33
Of our sitting. 00:02:39
Towards the South side. 00:02:40
Just around here. 00:02:47
So this is the lot. 00:02:49
That is being proposed to have the development which is to. 00:02:51
Uh, meeting houses. Umm. 00:02:55
On the lot. 00:03:00
So there's one. It's gonna be on. 00:03:01
Umm, north facing. 00:03:03
I mean 1 is going to be. 00:03:08
Not facing and the other is gonna be E facing. 00:03:09
Right there. 00:03:13
Umm, based on the requirements that we have the total parcel. 00:03:16
Umm, currently have. I mean the total X range for the parcel is. 00:03:22
About 5.8 acres and umm. 00:03:26
The meeting houses are respectively about 32,000 square feet. 00:03:30
On one and the other one is much smaller. That's 18,000 square feet. 00:03:35
Umm, they meet all the requirements for landscaping. 00:03:40
Just to show you a plan. 00:03:45
We sent some. 00:03:49
To them and they responded. 00:03:51
To all the comments, umm. 00:03:53
So there isn't much to. 00:03:56
When you pull them on. 00:03:58
The only comment that we have this is one of the. 00:03:59
Buildings. 00:04:03
And the other one I'll show shortly. 00:04:04
But the only issue that we have with. 00:04:07
This application right now is the photometric plan. 00:04:10
Uh, that did not show enough lighting around the entrances and exits of the. 00:04:13
Umm, the lock in general. 00:04:18
And I've discussed that with applicants and he's willing to have that data before he goes to Planning Commission, hopefully the 00:04:20
next time. 00:04:23
Umm, you're welcome to share any comments that you may have. 00:04:27
On this. 00:04:33
Umm, application. But as it stands now, the applicant is here. 00:04:34
Are there any questions? 00:04:38
You're welcome to ask him and he will be able to. 00:04:40
Respond to it, but from the review side of things, we only require an update of the photometric plan. 00:04:44
Umm to move forward to Planning Commission. 00:04:50
So that's it. While he speaks, I'll pull up the rest of the plans so you can. 00:04:54
See it and, uh, ask any questions you may have. 00:04:58
And that's one building. 00:05:01
Among the two, Parkin was. 00:05:02
Over they gave more parking than usual. 00:05:05
I mean, they're required. Umm. 00:05:09
Over 50%. 00:05:12
Of what was required. 00:05:14
They did also give us bike parking. 00:05:16
Umm, can you indicate that? Yeah, sure. So. 00:05:19
This on this building. So there's two of them also on this building. 00:05:24
The requirement was just to have about 6 uh, bike parking stalls, but they gave us 8. 00:05:29
And each of those FAU. 00:05:34
Uh, you know, Rack. 00:05:38
For each of these give you 2 sites that you can walk on and they give us 8. So that's good. Is that is that an area that's visible 00:05:39
from with inside the building? 00:05:44
Umm, yes. 00:05:49
At least, uh, it's right in front of the doors on the north side. 00:05:51
So. 00:05:55
Having more is always welcome. We would not reject it. So you, you know, you can add more if you want you, you can do it. Uh, we 00:05:57
encourage having, you know, more bike infrastructure around the city. 00:06:03
So that would be a good one to have. 00:06:08
Umm and also for the other building, they did give us more. 00:06:10
Then what's the minimum requirement for that as well? I'll pull it up. 00:06:15
Umm. 00:06:20
And then your pedestrian route, umm. 00:06:22
That's South side it has it's kind of. 00:06:26
Key office, Yeah, it's obviously better to have a direct route. I'd recommend moving that up. 00:06:28
Umm, I know you may lose a call or two, but. 00:06:34
I think that's gonna be much more be beneficial. You have a direct route, pedestrians are just gonna take the direct route anyway. 00:06:37
And so I would. 00:06:40
I just cleaned that up. 00:06:44
Umm. 00:06:54
So umm Valencia, welcome to. 00:07:00
Step up the podium and if you have any concerns as well, you can. 00:07:02
Yeah, bring it out. 00:07:06
Umm, Mr. Chair. 00:07:08
Please go ahead and. 00:07:10
Ask away any experimental concerns you may have while I pull up the rest of the plan for you. 00:07:12
Yeah. Any comments you wanna give before we any comments, OK, any questions from? 00:07:18
Any No. 00:07:25
Umm, from a, just a traffic standpoint, did you guys do a Tia or anything like that? Yeah, we, we turned that in. OK, OK, that 00:07:29
was, that was that, did that recommend any, umm, improvements? Uh. 00:07:34
Umm, to kind of your adjacent infrastructure. 00:07:41
Off the top of my head, I don't remember, but I don't think that there were any modifications. Uh yeah, It stated that there was 00:07:44
no auxiliary lines were required. That was the recommendation on it. Umm. 00:07:49
Kind of going through it to make sure, but. 00:07:54
Umm, the only traffic uh, signs out or the day that was done was only on Sunday, umm. 00:07:56
Uh, guaranteed hours. 00:08:02
Uh, so I would, I would be curious to see what the analysis would be on the other day because. 00:08:04
I understand this is a church facility and our service is being held on Sundays on. However church facilities are also a also 00:08:09
multi use. 00:08:13
Carpet filling therapy, that's where activities are being done on other days. 00:08:16
As well as, uh, some areas where the. 00:08:20
Uh, driveway. 00:08:23
Umm, it doesn't show any kind of restrictions on the term. 00:08:25
I recall that there was, uh, some discussions in regards to no upturns on. 00:08:28
Of the driveway that's, uh, like the most eastern driveway. 00:08:32
On there, uh, due to umm. 00:08:36
Get to the way that the traffic's umm. 00:08:39
The Right Way shopping was currently placed. 00:08:42
On that and I didn't see that being addressed as well. 00:08:44
So the the traffic study was. 00:08:48
Umm undertaken in order to just provide information to find out whether we needed to have any restrictions on that. 00:08:52
If I have approached or not? And since he didn't recommend any of those studies, we didn't have any of those. 00:08:59
Uh, I just saw that the the recommendation no exhilarating. That's all I saw. Is this a recommendation? No auxiliary lanes 00:09:06
required. 00:09:09
That was a recommendation, but then again, looking at the analysis, it was always, it was always done on Sunday. 00:09:13
OK, we'll have them update that. 00:09:19
And, uh, so they can, uh, they can, uh, call our office if they need any, uh, discussions, uh, while they're reviewing this 00:09:22
survey. I'm just doing the, the Sunday peak hour, umm. 00:09:27
At least for for the church as far as impact, are you are you wanting any other time? Umm. 00:09:32
Analyze the same, uh, really comes down to, I mean, other, other times of the day. I would like to actually see you done like the 00:09:38
whole week. 00:09:41
I've been done the whole week and then make the analysis because. 00:09:46
Yeah, there are activities that are being that are held throughout the week. 00:09:49
And those, those activities might conflict with other activities or other, uh, with using other activities, but other, uh. 00:09:52
The $50, uh, in terms of that area as well, so. 00:09:59
OK, I I I recommend the full study done, not just the one day done. 00:10:03
Sounds good. All right. Just make it. Just make sure. I mean, I am being relative. I mean that you might not change, but uh, it's 00:10:08
just gonna turn into a different religious facility. 00:10:12
Uh, that that whole service is on different day. 00:10:16
And then, uh, and they would be going into saying that the youth has changed, therefore why would they would need to change the 00:10:19
cost of study? 00:10:23
Or make any other improvements because there's no use change but. 00:10:26
Their national use of the, the physical use of the billing thing is done. I know there's uh. 00:10:29
Umm, there's, uh, other, uh, religious services there, sometimes held on Saturdays and Fridays. 00:10:34
Well, I would like to see the fully done. 00:10:40
OK, thanks. And in the past, umm, when we met with the church planners on this umm, we asked them to coordinate with the, the 00:10:44
southern property owners across the street, the Telos. 00:10:49
There's a linear piece of property right there that they plan they intend to develop. 00:10:54
Into the coordinate kind of the location of driveways. 00:10:59
Umm, is that something you're able to verify that has been coordinated? 00:11:02
Uh, I was not aware of any of that, so I'll have to. 00:11:08
Look into it. Do you know who I would talk to? We we we could get you in contact. 00:11:11
OK, yeah. But umm, just, yeah, I mean that that we just feel that's important. We want to align both of those those driveways. And 00:11:18
so if anything, you're the first one in, but making sure that they align with you put the conversation we had was to have you guys 00:11:23
coordinate prior to development, umm. 00:11:28
So if you know if if you could do that so umm, after you wanna. 00:11:34
Get that visible contact. 00:11:39
I think that'd be helpful. Now this is a gateway coming into the city. This is like our southern gateway. Umm, so. 00:11:41
Anthony or or umm Oh, and I apologize, could could you state your name for the record? I recorded it and pick it up. I'm late. 00:11:47
Harris LAFEHARRIS. I'm their architect of the church. 00:11:53
That's great. 00:11:59
Umm wait, are you able to talk to kind of the landscape team like the UMM about the park strips? Is it like tree lined? 00:12:00
Uh, do you have an exhibit or something that we can see on it? 00:12:08
And yeah, he'll have that. 00:12:12
It's it's a pretty big site, so we don't have an overall. 00:12:17
Plan showing everything that would be visible. 00:12:20
Umm, typically we so and then. 00:12:24
Don't know off the top of my head. Thoughts to be showing down there. I think those are just shrubs along the. 00:12:27
South Rd. 00:12:34
But then he's got groups of trees on the side, and then on Geneva he's got trees all the way down. 00:12:36
OK, why? Why why don't we check on the umm? 00:12:42
Umm, this team, I don't know if your team wants to look, look at the right away cross section, umm. 00:12:46
Because I I think our our right of ways we typically require. 00:12:53
Uh, St. Trees. 00:12:56
And we have a a vendor tree manual so you can pull. 00:12:58
Umm, basically from that because they technically would be in the public right of way. 00:13:01
And so just ensuring that we have kind of a specified tree type. 00:13:05
From that manual and then they have a minimum spacing. 00:13:09
And we'll, we'll work with you. We understand it might, one might land where a driveway is. 00:13:13
But we we can work on that. But typically there's kind of a uniform pattern that we'd like to see. 00:13:16
Sounds good, OK. 00:13:23
OK. Any other questions from committee members? 00:13:28
There there was a discrepancy between the size of the lot and the. 00:13:32
Size of the project. So I think I think Anthony was reading. 00:13:36
Umm, the church isn't wanting to separate the property into two properties, but. 00:13:40
There we we gave. 00:13:45
The staff, the area of each parcel and he was reading. 00:13:47
One of those got it. I guess you're not parcels, but one of the areas for one of the buildings. So they it is almost 10 acres to 00:13:51
the whole site. So Chris on a billion per minute standpoint, I mean I'm assuming. 00:13:57
Planted a lot. Are they are are they are do they need anything from a platting standpoint to move forward That's billing for that. 00:14:03
The light will have to be planted, I believe it and it's already been reported the way it is. I don't And you don't have an issue 00:14:10
with the two structures on one line. That's fine. OK. 00:14:15
OK. If there's no other questions from the committee, can I get a motion to approve business item 3.1 and 3.2? 00:14:26
Excuse me, Sir, You would have to recommend it to go to Planning Commission. Oh, OK, thank you. You don't go here. 00:14:34
Good morning. 00:14:41
I, I, I can make a motion if you like on that one. 00:14:42
Umm so umm, right. 00:14:44
I recommend approval of UMM. 00:14:47
Umm, the site planning conditional use permit. Church meeting house at 17. 00:14:52
Umm, West. 00:14:56
5. 00:14:58
My eyes are terrible 575 S. 00:14:59
First side plan I can see use permit, uh. 00:15:01
Umm with the following umm comment. 00:15:04
That umm, we look at the, you know, free manual ensure that the landscaping, umm, is from our approved list. Uh, we do prefer tree 00:15:07
lined at at least at some level. 00:15:12
That the pedestrian uh. 00:15:18
Connection coming off of 5. 00:15:20
75 S umm be straightened up. 00:15:23
Umm, to be direct from the public right away, umm, to all the way into the building. 00:15:26
Umm, that the traffic impact impact analysis be expanded to include UMM. 00:15:32
More days and I'm assuming probably like at least you're, you're like a couple days in the peak hour for umm. 00:15:41
Perfect week. Do you have do you have any uh maybe some details on that yes uh on top of that, we expanded to improve and to to uh 00:15:49
include a report regarding all day on there like all seven days on their remains and the traffic uh I'll make the song but. 00:15:56
I was talking to her. I'll be able to identify. 00:16:04
Uh, to identify where which days are there critical days? 00:16:06
On that but I haven't taken a look at all the days for re religious. 00:16:10
Uh, Class A A religious. 00:16:13
Fulfilling use, not just a specific type of. 00:16:16
Perfect. But for, uh, for the actual new system, uh approved for as well as uh. 00:16:20
Uh, uh, you know, uh, as well as the conditions to ensure that, uh, the conflict, uh, onto, uh, onto the growth. 00:16:26
Uh, at Geneva, uh are being done. 00:16:33
Uh, the one part about this too is just with approximately to, uh. 00:16:35
The DLT uh Rd. Geneva. 00:16:40
Uh, they're not. 00:16:43
Uh, we'll have to ensure that the docs, uh, have it, uh, transfer eyes on, on that as well to ensure that there's no congestion 00:16:46
onto the neighbor Rd. OK, my motion accepting, umm, missing comments and also. 00:16:52
That umm, we provide at least some sort of verification of coordination between the the UMM. 00:16:58
Property owners in South. 00:17:05
Side of your project. 00:17:07
Umm, and. 00:17:09
Yeah, recommend UH for approval for Planning Commission. 00:17:11
Comment one second. 00:17:16
I'll second that long motion. 00:17:17
OK. First by Morgan, second by Eric. 00:17:19
We don't have any work session items. Do we have any staff? 00:17:22
Uh, or Commission reports. 00:17:26
Oh, we need a vote. Yeah, we need a vote for this. Oh, sorry, we will vote. 00:17:29
I I don't think it's roll roll call if it's not an ordinance. 00:17:35
So you just see this call for a motion or a call for a vote on a motion. 00:17:38
OK, I call for. 00:17:41
A vote on the motion, aye. 00:17:44
Alright, alright. 00:17:46
Alright, alright. 00:17:48
Excellent. 00:17:52
OK. 00:17:53
Did we have any Commission or staff reports? 00:17:54
OK. 00:18:00
Looks like that should be everything, so we will go ahead and adjourn. 00:18:02
Thank you, Mike for coming. 00:18:09