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OK. Like to call to order this development review committee meeting. | 00:00:11 | |
It is. | 00:00:17 | |
February 20th, 2025. | 00:00:18 | |
It's about 9:03 AM. | 00:00:21 | |
Should we do roll call? | 00:00:26 | |
Yeah. | 00:00:28 | |
OK. Start with you, Eric. | 00:00:30 | |
Eric Ellis, city manager. | 00:00:33 | |
Brian Vaudrey, parks and rec director. | 00:00:35 | |
Chris Johnson, building official. | 00:00:38 | |
Brandon Valley Fire Department. | 00:00:40 | |
No, OK. | 00:00:45 | |
We will go ahead and jump into the consent items for this meeting. | 00:00:47 | |
Can I get a motion? | 00:00:54 | |
For items 2.1 and 2.2 Or are there any questions? | 00:00:56 | |
I'll motion to approve consent items 2.1 and 2.2 as presented. | 00:01:04 | |
First by Eric, can I have a second? | 00:01:08 | |
Second, Second by Chris. | 00:01:11 | |
OK. | 00:01:17 | |
Next on the agenda we have. | 00:01:18 | |
Business items 3.1 and 3.2. So let's go ahead and go into 3.1. | 00:01:20 | |
Was there any presentation with that or is that just for? | 00:01:27 | |
Approval. | 00:01:32 | |
I'll speak about it briefly. | 00:01:35 | |
Before we go on. | 00:01:37 | |
So. | 00:01:38 | |
My name is Anthony Fletcher. | 00:01:40 | |
Planner. We have here Leif, who is the representing the applicant representing the. | 00:01:42 | |
LDS Church. | 00:01:50 | |
For the two items that we have. | 00:01:52 | |
And chair, is it OK to treat both items? | 00:01:55 | |
One because they're all on one lot, so I'll talk about them. | 00:01:59 | |
Together. Is that OK? Yes, let's do it. | 00:02:03 | |
All right. So just to give a little bit of background. | 00:02:08 | |
I want to get you oriented to this spot where. | 00:02:13 | |
They're proposing the project. | 00:02:17 | |
So this is going to be. | 00:02:22 | |
Located approximately. | 00:02:24 | |
1700 W and 575 S. | 00:02:27 | |
Of our city. | 00:02:32 | |
Towards the South side. | 00:02:34 | |
Just around here. | 00:02:41 | |
So this is the lot. | 00:02:43 | |
That is being proposed. | 00:02:45 | |
To have the development which is to. | 00:02:46 | |
Meeting houses. | 00:02:49 | |
On the lot. | 00:02:53 | |
So that's one is going to be on. | 00:02:54 | |
North facing. | 00:02:57 | |
I mean 1 is going to be. | 00:03:01 | |
North facing and the other is going to be E facing. | 00:03:03 | |
Right there. | 00:03:06 | |
Based on the requirements that we have the total power cell. | 00:03:11 | |
Currently have, I mean the total acreage for the parcel is. | 00:03:16 | |
About 5.8 acres and um. | 00:03:20 | |
The meeting. | 00:03:23 | |
Houses are respectively about 32,000 square feet. | 00:03:24 | |
On one and the other one is much smaller. | 00:03:29 | |
That's 18,000 square feet. | 00:03:31 | |
They meet all the requirements for landscaping. | 00:03:34 | |
Just to show you a plan. | 00:03:39 | |
We send some comments. | 00:03:42 | |
To them and they responded. | 00:03:45 | |
To all the comments. | 00:03:47 | |
So there isn't much to. | 00:03:49 | |
Really pull them on. | 00:03:51 | |
The only comment that we have. | 00:03:53 | |
This is one of the. | 00:03:55 | |
Buildings. | 00:03:56 | |
And the other one. | 00:03:57 | |
I'll show shortly. | 00:03:59 | |
But. | 00:04:00 | |
The only issue that we have. | 00:04:01 | |
This application right now is the photometric plan. | 00:04:03 | |
That did not show enough lighting around the entrances and exits of the. | 00:04:07 | |
A lot in general. | 00:04:12 | |
And I've discussed that with the applicant and he's willing to have that updated before it goes to Planning Commission, hopefully | 00:04:13 | |
the next time. | 00:04:16 | |
You're welcome to share any comments that you may have. | 00:04:22 | |
On this. | 00:04:26 | |
Application, but as it stands now, the applicant is here. | 00:04:28 | |
If there are any questions. | 00:04:32 | |
You're welcome to ask him and. | 00:04:34 | |
He will be able to. | 00:04:36 | |
Respond to it, but from the review side of things, we only require. | 00:04:37 | |
An update of the photometric plan. | 00:04:41 | |
To move forward to Planning Commission. | 00:04:45 | |
So that's it. While he speaks, I'll pull up the rest of the plans so you can. | 00:04:47 | |
See it and ask any questions you may have. | 00:04:51 | |
But that's one building. | 00:04:54 | |
Among the two. | 00:04:56 | |
Harkin was. | 00:04:57 | |
Over they gave more parking than usual. | 00:04:59 | |
I mean than required. | 00:05:02 | |
Over 50%. | 00:05:05 | |
Of what is required. | 00:05:07 | |
They did also. | 00:05:09 | |
Give us bike parking. | 00:05:11 | |
Can you indicate that? | 00:05:13 | |
Yeah, sure. | 00:05:14 | |
This on this building. So there's two of them also on this building. | 00:05:18 | |
The requirement was just to have about 6 bike parking stalls, but they gave us 8. | 00:05:22 | |
And each of this that's a U inverted U. | 00:05:28 | |
You know Iraq. | 00:05:32 | |
So each of these give you 2. | 00:05:33 | |
Bikes that you can lock on. | 00:05:35 | |
And they give us 8, so that's good. Is that? Is that an area that's visible from within side the building? | 00:05:37 | |
Yes. | 00:05:43 | |
At least it's right in front of the doors on the Northside. | 00:05:44 | |
So having more is always welcome. We would not reject it. So you know you can add more if you want, you can do it. | 00:05:49 | |
We encourage having you know. | 00:05:57 | |
More bike infrastructure around the city. | 00:05:59 | |
So that would be a good one to have. | 00:06:02 | |
And also for the other building they did. | 00:06:05 | |
Give us more. | 00:06:07 | |
Than was the minimum requirement. | 00:06:08 | |
For that as well, I'll pull it up. | 00:06:11 | |
And then your pedestrian route. | 00:06:16 | |
Umm, that South side. It's kind of skiwompus. | 00:06:18 | |
Yeah, it's obviously better to have a direct route. I'd recommend moving that up. | 00:06:23 | |
I know you may lose a stall or two, but. | 00:06:27 | |
I think that's going to be much more beneficial if you have a direct route. Pedestrians are just going to take the direct route | 00:06:30 | |
anyway. | 00:06:33 | |
And so I would. | 00:06:36 | |
I just clean that up. | 00:06:37 | |
So, Leif, you're welcome to. | 00:06:53 | |
Step up the podium and if you have any. | 00:06:56 | |
Concerns as well you can. | 00:06:58 | |
Yeah, bring it up. | 00:07:00 | |
Mr. Chair. | 00:07:02 | |
Please go ahead and. | 00:07:03 | |
Ask away any comments or concerns you may have while I pull up the rest of the plans for you. | 00:07:06 | |
OK. Yeah. Any comments you want to give before we any comments? OK. | 00:07:11 | |
Any questions from? | 00:07:16 | |
Committee. | 00:07:18 | |
From a just a traffic standpoint, did you guys do a Tia or anything like that? Yeah, we turned that in with the initial okay that | 00:07:22 | |
was with, did that recommend any improvements? | 00:07:28 | |
To kind of your adjacent infrastructure. | 00:07:34 | |
Off the top of my head I don't remember, but I don't think that there were any modifications. | 00:07:37 | |
It stated that there was no auxiliary lanes were required. That was the recommendation on it. | 00:07:43 | |
Kind of going through it to make sure, but. | 00:07:48 | |
The only traffic study or the data was done was only on Sunday. | 00:07:51 | |
During peak hours. | 00:07:56 | |
So I would I would be curious to see what the. | 00:07:58 | |
Analysis would be on other days because. | 00:08:00 | |
I understand this is a church facility with services being held on Sundays. About how virtuous facilities are also also multi use. | 00:08:03 | |
Type facilities are that where activities are being done on other days. | 00:08:10 | |
As well as some areas where the. | 00:08:13 | |
Driveway. | 00:08:17 | |
It doesn't show any kind of restrictions on turns where. | 00:08:18 | |
I recall that there was some discussions in regards to no left turns on. | 00:08:22 | |
The driveways that like the most eastern driveway. | 00:08:26 | |
On there due to. | 00:08:29 | |
Due to the way that the traffic. | 00:08:32 | |
The right way stripping was currently placed. | 00:08:35 | |
On that and I didn't see that being addressed as well. | 00:08:38 | |
So the the traffic study was. | 00:08:41 | |
Undertaken in order to provide information to find out whether we needed to have any restrictions on that. | 00:08:46 | |
Drive approach or not? And since he didn't recommend any in the. | 00:08:52 | |
Study. We didn't add any of those. | 00:08:55 | |
I just saw that the recommendation no auxiliary lanes. | 00:08:59 | |
That's all I saw. As I said, recommendation auxiliary lanes regard. | 00:09:03 | |
That was a recommendation, but then again, looking at the analysis, it was always it was only done on Sundays. | 00:09:07 | |
OK, we'll have them update that. | 00:09:12 | |
And they can call our office if they need any discussions while they're redoing this study. | 00:09:15 | |
I'm assuming the the Sunday was the. I mean that's the peak hour. | 00:09:22 | |
At least for the church. | 00:09:26 | |
As far as impact, are you wanting any other times analyzed the same? Really comes down to other times of the day. I would like to | 00:09:28 | |
actually see it done the whole week. | 00:09:33 | |
I started on the whole week and then make the analysis because. | 00:09:39 | |
There are activities that are being that are held throughout the week. | 00:09:42 | |
And those those activities might conflict with other activities or other excuse me, not other activities, but other. | 00:09:46 | |
The peak hours. | 00:09:53 | |
In terms of that area as well. | 00:09:54 | |
I recommend the full study done, not just a one day done. | 00:09:57 | |
Sounds good. I mean this might this may turn this. I mean I am being realistic. I mean the use might not change but. | 00:10:01 | |
This may turn into a different religious facility. | 00:10:07 | |
That whole service is on different day. | 00:10:10 | |
And then they would be going into it saying that the Houston change, therefore why they wouldn't need to change the traffic study. | 00:10:13 | |
Or make any other improvements because there's no use change but. | 00:10:20 | |
Their the actual use of the physical use of the buildings being is done. I know there's a. | 00:10:23 | |
There's other religious services are sometimes held on Saturdays and even Fridays. | 00:10:28 | |
So I would like to see the. | 00:10:34 | |
The full week done. | 00:10:36 | |
OK, thanks. | 00:10:37 | |
And in the past, when we met with the church planners on this, we asked them to coordinate with the the southern property owners | 00:10:39 | |
across the street, the Telos. | 00:10:43 | |
There's a linear piece of property right there that they plant they intend to develop. | 00:10:47 | |
And so to coordinate kind of the location of driveways. | 00:10:52 | |
Is that something you're able to verify that? | 00:10:57 | |
Has been coordinated. | 00:10:59 | |
I was aware of any of that. | 00:11:02 | |
So I'll have to. | 00:11:03 | |
Look into it. Do you know who I would talk to? | 00:11:05 | |
We could get you a contact. | 00:11:08 | |
Yeah. But yeah, I mean that we just would feel that's important. We want to align both of those, those driveways. And so if | 00:11:11 | |
anything, I mean you're the first one in, but making sure that they align with you. | 00:11:16 | |
But the conversation we had was to have you guys coordinate prior to development. | 00:11:22 | |
So if you know. | 00:11:28 | |
If you could do that. So Anthony, if you wanna. | 00:11:29 | |
Get that the Tilos contact. | 00:11:32 | |
I think that would be helpful. Now this is a gateway coming into the city. This is like our southern gateway. | 00:11:35 | |
So Anthony or oh, and I apologize, could you state your name for the record? I recorded it and pick it up. I'm Leif Harris | 00:11:40 | |
LAFEHARIS. I'm their architect of the church hired. Great. | 00:11:46 | |
That's great. | 00:11:52 | |
Umm Leith, are you able to talk to kind of the landscaping? Like the park trips? Is it like tree lined? | 00:11:55 | |
Do you have an exhibit or something that we could see on that? | 00:12:02 | |
And yeah, he'll have that. | 00:12:05 | |
It's it's a pretty big site, so we don't have an overall. | 00:12:10 | |
Plan showing everything that would be visible. | 00:12:14 | |
Typically we. | 00:12:18 | |
So and I don't know off the top of my head if those. | 00:12:19 | |
Thoughts that he's showing down there, I think those are just shrubs along the. | 00:12:23 | |
South Rd. | 00:12:27 | |
But then he's got groups of trees on the sides, and then on Geneva he's got trees all the way down. | 00:12:29 | |
OK, why don't we check on the? | 00:12:35 | |
Nasim, I don't know if your team wants to look at the right of way cross section. | 00:12:40 | |
Because I think our right of ways we typically require. | 00:12:46 | |
Street trees. | 00:12:49 | |
And we have a vineyard tree manual and so you can pull. | 00:12:51 | |
Basically from that because they technically would be in the public right of way. | 00:12:55 | |
And so just ensuring that we have kind of the specified tree types from that manual and then they have a minimum spacing. | 00:12:58 | |
And what will work with you, we understand. Might one might land where a driveway is. | 00:13:06 | |
But we we can work feeling that. But typically there's a kind of a uniform pattern that we'd like to see. | 00:13:10 | |
Sounds good. | 00:13:17 | |
OK. Any other questions from committee members? | 00:13:22 | |
There was a discrepancy between the size of the lot and the size of the project, so I think Anthony was reading. | 00:13:26 | |
The church isn't wanting to separate the property into two properties, but. | 00:13:34 | |
There we gave. | 00:13:38 | |
The staff, the area of each parcel and he was reading. | 00:13:41 | |
One of those, one of the I guess they're not parcels, but one of the areas for one of the buildings. So they it is almost 10 acres | 00:13:45 | |
for the whole site. So Chris on a billion permit standpoint, I mean, I'm assuming because it's. | 00:13:51 | |
Platted lot. | 00:13:57 | |
Are they are? Do they need anything from a platting standpoint to move forward with the billing permit? | 00:13:58 | |
The light will have to be planted. | 00:14:04 | |
I believe it. It's already been OK the way it is. I don't have to be. And you don't have an issue with the two structures on one | 00:14:06 | |
lie, that's fine. | 00:14:09 | |
OK. If there's no other questions from the committee, can I get a motion to approve business items 3.1 and 3.2? | 00:14:19 | |
Excuse me, chair, you would have to recommend it. | 00:14:27 | |
To go to Planning Commission. | 00:14:30 | |
OK. Thank you. You don't move here. | 00:14:32 | |
I can make a motion if you like on that one. | 00:14:36 | |
I recommend approval. | 00:14:41 | |
The site plan and can show use permit church meeting house at 17. | 00:14:45 | |
West 5. | 00:14:50 | |
My eyes are terrible 575 S. | 00:14:52 | |
For a site plan and can she use permit? | 00:14:55 | |
With the following comments. | 00:14:58 | |
That we look at the meter tree manual. We ensure that the landscaping is from our approved list. | 00:15:00 | |
We do prefer a tree lined, at least at some level. | 00:15:07 | |
That the pedestrian connection coming off of five. | 00:15:11 | |
75 S be straightened up. | 00:15:16 | |
To be direct from the public right of way to all the way into the building. | 00:15:20 | |
Umm, that the. | 00:15:27 | |
Traffic impact analysis be expanded to include. | 00:15:28 | |
More days and I'm assuming probably like at least your couple of days in the peak hour for. | 00:15:34 | |
Perfectly. Did you have any maybe some details on that? Yes, on the traffic side to be expanded to include and to include a report | 00:15:42 | |
regarding all days on there like so all seven days on there, I mean the traffic. | 00:15:48 | |
I'll make this song but. | 00:15:56 | |
Traffic engineer will be able to identify. | 00:15:57 | |
To identify where which days are the critical days? | 00:16:00 | |
On that but haven't take a look at all the days for religious. | 00:16:03 | |
Classify a religious. | 00:16:07 | |
Facility use, not just a specific. | 00:16:09 | |
Specific type of. | 00:16:12 | |
Purpose, but for the actual uses being approved for. | 00:16:13 | |
As well as uh uh. | 00:16:18 | |
You know, as well as conditions to ensure that the conflicts onto the road. | 00:16:19 | |
At Geneva are being done. | 00:16:26 | |
The one part about this too is it's with the proximity to. | 00:16:30 | |
Did the OT Rd. Geneva? | 00:16:34 | |
They're not. We'll have to ensure that D dots have a chance to put the eyes on on that as well to ensure that there's no | 00:16:38 | |
congestion onto. | 00:16:42 | |
Geneva Rd. OK my motion accepting Naseem S comments and also. | 00:16:47 | |
That we provide at least some sort of verification of coordination between the the telos. | 00:16:52 | |
Property owners in the South. | 00:16:59 | |
Side of your project. | 00:17:01 | |
And recommend that for approval to the Planning Commission. | 00:17:03 | |
Comments. | 00:17:07 | |
We have a second. | 00:17:09 | |
I'll second that long motion. Yeah, OK. First by Morgan, second by Eric. | 00:17:11 | |
We don't have any work session items. Do we have any staff? | 00:17:15 | |
Or Commission reports. | 00:17:20 | |
Oh, we need a vote. Yeah, we need a vote for this. Oh, sorry, we will vote. | 00:17:22 | |
You can just call us. | 00:17:27 | |
I I don't think it's rope roll call Lieutenant ordinance. | 00:17:29 | |
So you just, you just call for a motion, your call for a vote on the motion. | 00:17:31 | |
OK, I call for. | 00:17:35 | |
A vote on the motion. | 00:17:37 | |
Aye, aye. | 00:17:39 | |
Aye, aye. | 00:17:42 | |
There you go. | 00:17:43 | |
Excellent. | 00:17:45 | |
OK. Did we have any Commission or staff reports? | 00:17:47 | |
OK. Looks like that should be everything. So we will go ahead and adjourn. | 00:17:54 | |
Thank you wife for coming. | 00:18:02 |
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OK. Like to call to order this development review committee meeting. | 00:00:11 | |
It is. | 00:00:17 | |
February 20th, 2025. | 00:00:18 | |
It's about 9:03 AM. | 00:00:21 | |
Should we do roll call? | 00:00:26 | |
Yeah. | 00:00:28 | |
OK. Start with you, Eric. | 00:00:30 | |
Eric Ellis, city manager. | 00:00:33 | |
Brian Vaudrey, parks and rec director. | 00:00:35 | |
Chris Johnson, building official. | 00:00:38 | |
Brandon Valley Fire Department. | 00:00:40 | |
No, OK. | 00:00:45 | |
We will go ahead and jump into the consent items for this meeting. | 00:00:47 | |
Can I get a motion? | 00:00:54 | |
For items 2.1 and 2.2 Or are there any questions? | 00:00:56 | |
I'll motion to approve consent items 2.1 and 2.2 as presented. | 00:01:04 | |
First by Eric, can I have a second? | 00:01:08 | |
Second, Second by Chris. | 00:01:11 | |
OK. | 00:01:17 | |
Next on the agenda we have. | 00:01:18 | |
Business items 3.1 and 3.2. So let's go ahead and go into 3.1. | 00:01:20 | |
Was there any presentation with that or is that just for? | 00:01:27 | |
Approval. | 00:01:32 | |
I'll speak about it briefly. | 00:01:35 | |
Before we go on. | 00:01:37 | |
So. | 00:01:38 | |
My name is Anthony Fletcher. | 00:01:40 | |
Planner. We have here Leif, who is the representing the applicant representing the. | 00:01:42 | |
LDS Church. | 00:01:50 | |
For the two items that we have. | 00:01:52 | |
And chair, is it OK to treat both items? | 00:01:55 | |
One because they're all on one lot, so I'll talk about them. | 00:01:59 | |
Together. Is that OK? Yes, let's do it. | 00:02:03 | |
All right. So just to give a little bit of background. | 00:02:08 | |
I want to get you oriented to this spot where. | 00:02:13 | |
They're proposing the project. | 00:02:17 | |
So this is going to be. | 00:02:22 | |
Located approximately. | 00:02:24 | |
1700 W and 575 S. | 00:02:27 | |
Of our city. | 00:02:32 | |
Towards the South side. | 00:02:34 | |
Just around here. | 00:02:41 | |
So this is the lot. | 00:02:43 | |
That is being proposed. | 00:02:45 | |
To have the development which is to. | 00:02:46 | |
Meeting houses. | 00:02:49 | |
On the lot. | 00:02:53 | |
So that's one is going to be on. | 00:02:54 | |
North facing. | 00:02:57 | |
I mean 1 is going to be. | 00:03:01 | |
North facing and the other is going to be E facing. | 00:03:03 | |
Right there. | 00:03:06 | |
Based on the requirements that we have the total power cell. | 00:03:11 | |
Currently have, I mean the total acreage for the parcel is. | 00:03:16 | |
About 5.8 acres and um. | 00:03:20 | |
The meeting. | 00:03:23 | |
Houses are respectively about 32,000 square feet. | 00:03:24 | |
On one and the other one is much smaller. | 00:03:29 | |
That's 18,000 square feet. | 00:03:31 | |
They meet all the requirements for landscaping. | 00:03:34 | |
Just to show you a plan. | 00:03:39 | |
We send some comments. | 00:03:42 | |
To them and they responded. | 00:03:45 | |
To all the comments. | 00:03:47 | |
So there isn't much to. | 00:03:49 | |
Really pull them on. | 00:03:51 | |
The only comment that we have. | 00:03:53 | |
This is one of the. | 00:03:55 | |
Buildings. | 00:03:56 | |
And the other one. | 00:03:57 | |
I'll show shortly. | 00:03:59 | |
But. | 00:04:00 | |
The only issue that we have. | 00:04:01 | |
This application right now is the photometric plan. | 00:04:03 | |
That did not show enough lighting around the entrances and exits of the. | 00:04:07 | |
A lot in general. | 00:04:12 | |
And I've discussed that with the applicant and he's willing to have that updated before it goes to Planning Commission, hopefully | 00:04:13 | |
the next time. | 00:04:16 | |
You're welcome to share any comments that you may have. | 00:04:22 | |
On this. | 00:04:26 | |
Application, but as it stands now, the applicant is here. | 00:04:28 | |
If there are any questions. | 00:04:32 | |
You're welcome to ask him and. | 00:04:34 | |
He will be able to. | 00:04:36 | |
Respond to it, but from the review side of things, we only require. | 00:04:37 | |
An update of the photometric plan. | 00:04:41 | |
To move forward to Planning Commission. | 00:04:45 | |
So that's it. While he speaks, I'll pull up the rest of the plans so you can. | 00:04:47 | |
See it and ask any questions you may have. | 00:04:51 | |
But that's one building. | 00:04:54 | |
Among the two. | 00:04:56 | |
Harkin was. | 00:04:57 | |
Over they gave more parking than usual. | 00:04:59 | |
I mean than required. | 00:05:02 | |
Over 50%. | 00:05:05 | |
Of what is required. | 00:05:07 | |
They did also. | 00:05:09 | |
Give us bike parking. | 00:05:11 | |
Can you indicate that? | 00:05:13 | |
Yeah, sure. | 00:05:14 | |
This on this building. So there's two of them also on this building. | 00:05:18 | |
The requirement was just to have about 6 bike parking stalls, but they gave us 8. | 00:05:22 | |
And each of this that's a U inverted U. | 00:05:28 | |
You know Iraq. | 00:05:32 | |
So each of these give you 2. | 00:05:33 | |
Bikes that you can lock on. | 00:05:35 | |
And they give us 8, so that's good. Is that? Is that an area that's visible from within side the building? | 00:05:37 | |
Yes. | 00:05:43 | |
At least it's right in front of the doors on the Northside. | 00:05:44 | |
So having more is always welcome. We would not reject it. So you know you can add more if you want, you can do it. | 00:05:49 | |
We encourage having you know. | 00:05:57 | |
More bike infrastructure around the city. | 00:05:59 | |
So that would be a good one to have. | 00:06:02 | |
And also for the other building they did. | 00:06:05 | |
Give us more. | 00:06:07 | |
Than was the minimum requirement. | 00:06:08 | |
For that as well, I'll pull it up. | 00:06:11 | |
And then your pedestrian route. | 00:06:16 | |
Umm, that South side. It's kind of skiwompus. | 00:06:18 | |
Yeah, it's obviously better to have a direct route. I'd recommend moving that up. | 00:06:23 | |
I know you may lose a stall or two, but. | 00:06:27 | |
I think that's going to be much more beneficial if you have a direct route. Pedestrians are just going to take the direct route | 00:06:30 | |
anyway. | 00:06:33 | |
And so I would. | 00:06:36 | |
I just clean that up. | 00:06:37 | |
So, Leif, you're welcome to. | 00:06:53 | |
Step up the podium and if you have any. | 00:06:56 | |
Concerns as well you can. | 00:06:58 | |
Yeah, bring it up. | 00:07:00 | |
Mr. Chair. | 00:07:02 | |
Please go ahead and. | 00:07:03 | |
Ask away any comments or concerns you may have while I pull up the rest of the plans for you. | 00:07:06 | |
OK. Yeah. Any comments you want to give before we any comments? OK. | 00:07:11 | |
Any questions from? | 00:07:16 | |
Committee. | 00:07:18 | |
From a just a traffic standpoint, did you guys do a Tia or anything like that? Yeah, we turned that in with the initial okay that | 00:07:22 | |
was with, did that recommend any improvements? | 00:07:28 | |
To kind of your adjacent infrastructure. | 00:07:34 | |
Off the top of my head I don't remember, but I don't think that there were any modifications. | 00:07:37 | |
It stated that there was no auxiliary lanes were required. That was the recommendation on it. | 00:07:43 | |
Kind of going through it to make sure, but. | 00:07:48 | |
The only traffic study or the data was done was only on Sunday. | 00:07:51 | |
During peak hours. | 00:07:56 | |
So I would I would be curious to see what the. | 00:07:58 | |
Analysis would be on other days because. | 00:08:00 | |
I understand this is a church facility with services being held on Sundays. About how virtuous facilities are also also multi use. | 00:08:03 | |
Type facilities are that where activities are being done on other days. | 00:08:10 | |
As well as some areas where the. | 00:08:13 | |
Driveway. | 00:08:17 | |
It doesn't show any kind of restrictions on turns where. | 00:08:18 | |
I recall that there was some discussions in regards to no left turns on. | 00:08:22 | |
The driveways that like the most eastern driveway. | 00:08:26 | |
On there due to. | 00:08:29 | |
Due to the way that the traffic. | 00:08:32 | |
The right way stripping was currently placed. | 00:08:35 | |
On that and I didn't see that being addressed as well. | 00:08:38 | |
So the the traffic study was. | 00:08:41 | |
Undertaken in order to provide information to find out whether we needed to have any restrictions on that. | 00:08:46 | |
Drive approach or not? And since he didn't recommend any in the. | 00:08:52 | |
Study. We didn't add any of those. | 00:08:55 | |
I just saw that the recommendation no auxiliary lanes. | 00:08:59 | |
That's all I saw. As I said, recommendation auxiliary lanes regard. | 00:09:03 | |
That was a recommendation, but then again, looking at the analysis, it was always it was only done on Sundays. | 00:09:07 | |
OK, we'll have them update that. | 00:09:12 | |
And they can call our office if they need any discussions while they're redoing this study. | 00:09:15 | |
I'm assuming the the Sunday was the. I mean that's the peak hour. | 00:09:22 | |
At least for the church. | 00:09:26 | |
As far as impact, are you wanting any other times analyzed the same? Really comes down to other times of the day. I would like to | 00:09:28 | |
actually see it done the whole week. | 00:09:33 | |
I started on the whole week and then make the analysis because. | 00:09:39 | |
There are activities that are being that are held throughout the week. | 00:09:42 | |
And those those activities might conflict with other activities or other excuse me, not other activities, but other. | 00:09:46 | |
The peak hours. | 00:09:53 | |
In terms of that area as well. | 00:09:54 | |
I recommend the full study done, not just a one day done. | 00:09:57 | |
Sounds good. I mean this might this may turn this. I mean I am being realistic. I mean the use might not change but. | 00:10:01 | |
This may turn into a different religious facility. | 00:10:07 | |
That whole service is on different day. | 00:10:10 | |
And then they would be going into it saying that the Houston change, therefore why they wouldn't need to change the traffic study. | 00:10:13 | |
Or make any other improvements because there's no use change but. | 00:10:20 | |
Their the actual use of the physical use of the buildings being is done. I know there's a. | 00:10:23 | |
There's other religious services are sometimes held on Saturdays and even Fridays. | 00:10:28 | |
So I would like to see the. | 00:10:34 | |
The full week done. | 00:10:36 | |
OK, thanks. | 00:10:37 | |
And in the past, when we met with the church planners on this, we asked them to coordinate with the the southern property owners | 00:10:39 | |
across the street, the Telos. | 00:10:43 | |
There's a linear piece of property right there that they plant they intend to develop. | 00:10:47 | |
And so to coordinate kind of the location of driveways. | 00:10:52 | |
Is that something you're able to verify that? | 00:10:57 | |
Has been coordinated. | 00:10:59 | |
I was aware of any of that. | 00:11:02 | |
So I'll have to. | 00:11:03 | |
Look into it. Do you know who I would talk to? | 00:11:05 | |
We could get you a contact. | 00:11:08 | |
Yeah. But yeah, I mean that we just would feel that's important. We want to align both of those, those driveways. And so if | 00:11:11 | |
anything, I mean you're the first one in, but making sure that they align with you. | 00:11:16 | |
But the conversation we had was to have you guys coordinate prior to development. | 00:11:22 | |
So if you know. | 00:11:28 | |
If you could do that. So Anthony, if you wanna. | 00:11:29 | |
Get that the Tilos contact. | 00:11:32 | |
I think that would be helpful. Now this is a gateway coming into the city. This is like our southern gateway. | 00:11:35 | |
So Anthony or oh, and I apologize, could you state your name for the record? I recorded it and pick it up. I'm Leif Harris | 00:11:40 | |
LAFEHARIS. I'm their architect of the church hired. Great. | 00:11:46 | |
That's great. | 00:11:52 | |
Umm Leith, are you able to talk to kind of the landscaping? Like the park trips? Is it like tree lined? | 00:11:55 | |
Do you have an exhibit or something that we could see on that? | 00:12:02 | |
And yeah, he'll have that. | 00:12:05 | |
It's it's a pretty big site, so we don't have an overall. | 00:12:10 | |
Plan showing everything that would be visible. | 00:12:14 | |
Typically we. | 00:12:18 | |
So and I don't know off the top of my head if those. | 00:12:19 | |
Thoughts that he's showing down there, I think those are just shrubs along the. | 00:12:23 | |
South Rd. | 00:12:27 | |
But then he's got groups of trees on the sides, and then on Geneva he's got trees all the way down. | 00:12:29 | |
OK, why don't we check on the? | 00:12:35 | |
Nasim, I don't know if your team wants to look at the right of way cross section. | 00:12:40 | |
Because I think our right of ways we typically require. | 00:12:46 | |
Street trees. | 00:12:49 | |
And we have a vineyard tree manual and so you can pull. | 00:12:51 | |
Basically from that because they technically would be in the public right of way. | 00:12:55 | |
And so just ensuring that we have kind of the specified tree types from that manual and then they have a minimum spacing. | 00:12:58 | |
And what will work with you, we understand. Might one might land where a driveway is. | 00:13:06 | |
But we we can work feeling that. But typically there's a kind of a uniform pattern that we'd like to see. | 00:13:10 | |
Sounds good. | 00:13:17 | |
OK. Any other questions from committee members? | 00:13:22 | |
There was a discrepancy between the size of the lot and the size of the project, so I think Anthony was reading. | 00:13:26 | |
The church isn't wanting to separate the property into two properties, but. | 00:13:34 | |
There we gave. | 00:13:38 | |
The staff, the area of each parcel and he was reading. | 00:13:41 | |
One of those, one of the I guess they're not parcels, but one of the areas for one of the buildings. So they it is almost 10 acres | 00:13:45 | |
for the whole site. So Chris on a billion permit standpoint, I mean, I'm assuming because it's. | 00:13:51 | |
Platted lot. | 00:13:57 | |
Are they are? Do they need anything from a platting standpoint to move forward with the billing permit? | 00:13:58 | |
The light will have to be planted. | 00:14:04 | |
I believe it. It's already been OK the way it is. I don't have to be. And you don't have an issue with the two structures on one | 00:14:06 | |
lie, that's fine. | 00:14:09 | |
OK. If there's no other questions from the committee, can I get a motion to approve business items 3.1 and 3.2? | 00:14:19 | |
Excuse me, chair, you would have to recommend it. | 00:14:27 | |
To go to Planning Commission. | 00:14:30 | |
OK. Thank you. You don't move here. | 00:14:32 | |
I can make a motion if you like on that one. | 00:14:36 | |
I recommend approval. | 00:14:41 | |
The site plan and can show use permit church meeting house at 17. | 00:14:45 | |
West 5. | 00:14:50 | |
My eyes are terrible 575 S. | 00:14:52 | |
For a site plan and can she use permit? | 00:14:55 | |
With the following comments. | 00:14:58 | |
That we look at the meter tree manual. We ensure that the landscaping is from our approved list. | 00:15:00 | |
We do prefer a tree lined, at least at some level. | 00:15:07 | |
That the pedestrian connection coming off of five. | 00:15:11 | |
75 S be straightened up. | 00:15:16 | |
To be direct from the public right of way to all the way into the building. | 00:15:20 | |
Umm, that the. | 00:15:27 | |
Traffic impact analysis be expanded to include. | 00:15:28 | |
More days and I'm assuming probably like at least your couple of days in the peak hour for. | 00:15:34 | |
Perfectly. Did you have any maybe some details on that? Yes, on the traffic side to be expanded to include and to include a report | 00:15:42 | |
regarding all days on there like so all seven days on there, I mean the traffic. | 00:15:48 | |
I'll make this song but. | 00:15:56 | |
Traffic engineer will be able to identify. | 00:15:57 | |
To identify where which days are the critical days? | 00:16:00 | |
On that but haven't take a look at all the days for religious. | 00:16:03 | |
Classify a religious. | 00:16:07 | |
Facility use, not just a specific. | 00:16:09 | |
Specific type of. | 00:16:12 | |
Purpose, but for the actual uses being approved for. | 00:16:13 | |
As well as uh uh. | 00:16:18 | |
You know, as well as conditions to ensure that the conflicts onto the road. | 00:16:19 | |
At Geneva are being done. | 00:16:26 | |
The one part about this too is it's with the proximity to. | 00:16:30 | |
Did the OT Rd. Geneva? | 00:16:34 | |
They're not. We'll have to ensure that D dots have a chance to put the eyes on on that as well to ensure that there's no | 00:16:38 | |
congestion onto. | 00:16:42 | |
Geneva Rd. OK my motion accepting Naseem S comments and also. | 00:16:47 | |
That we provide at least some sort of verification of coordination between the the telos. | 00:16:52 | |
Property owners in the South. | 00:16:59 | |
Side of your project. | 00:17:01 | |
And recommend that for approval to the Planning Commission. | 00:17:03 | |
Comments. | 00:17:07 | |
We have a second. | 00:17:09 | |
I'll second that long motion. Yeah, OK. First by Morgan, second by Eric. | 00:17:11 | |
We don't have any work session items. Do we have any staff? | 00:17:15 | |
Or Commission reports. | 00:17:20 | |
Oh, we need a vote. Yeah, we need a vote for this. Oh, sorry, we will vote. | 00:17:22 | |
You can just call us. | 00:17:27 | |
I I don't think it's rope roll call Lieutenant ordinance. | 00:17:29 | |
So you just, you just call for a motion, your call for a vote on the motion. | 00:17:31 | |
OK, I call for. | 00:17:35 | |
A vote on the motion. | 00:17:37 | |
Aye, aye. | 00:17:39 | |
Aye, aye. | 00:17:42 | |
There you go. | 00:17:43 | |
Excellent. | 00:17:45 | |
OK. Did we have any Commission or staff reports? | 00:17:47 | |
OK. Looks like that should be everything. So we will go ahead and adjourn. | 00:17:54 | |
Thank you wife for coming. | 00:18:02 |