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  • Call to Order/Invocation/Inspirational Thought/Pledge of Allegiance   Vice-Chair Cris Johnson called the meeting to order atm.  Staff and Commission Reports   There were no comments made.  
  • Consent Items  1.Approval of the Januaryth,25 Development Review Committee Meeting Minutes   2.Approval of the Februaryth,25 Development Review Committee Meeting Minutes.
  • Motion: COMMUNICTY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR MORGAN BRIM MOTIONED TO APPROVE THE JANUARYTH AND FEBRUARYTH DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES AT00AM. CITY MANAGER ERIC ELLIS SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR VOTED YES: BRIM, ELLIS GHANDOUR, VALLEY, AND JOHNSON. THE VOTE CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.   
  • Business Items  1.Utah City PhasePlat Amendment
  • Senior Planner Cache Hancey provided an introduction and presented the plat. He noted his request to fix the hatch marks on the plat.
  • City Engineer and Public Works Director Naseem commented on the road dedications.
  • Bronson Tatton with Flagborough acknowledged that it is the case for Main Street and Avery. He noted that they will come in with a roadway dedication.
  • Director Brim asked about lot A and the slope easement.   Mr. Tatton noted that they accepted for there to be a frontage road as long as it was on their property.   Director Ghandour noted that there is a pre-application meeting.   Discussion ensued.
  • Director Brim represented his thoughts with a map.
  • Senior Planner Hancey noted that there still may be addressing issues with the plat.   Mr. Tatton discussed lota.
  • Director Ghandour recommended looking into how the right-of-way will be dedicated to the city.   Discussion ensued.   Director Brim clarified the discussion.
  • Director Brim asked if we have approved this with the city attorney.   Senior Planner Hancey noted that the attorney has been working with their legal team on this.   Director Brim did not feel comfortable approving this without touching base with the attorney.   Discussion ensued.
  • Moved to Item3    2.
  • Orchards PhaseFinal Plat   Planner Anthony Fletcher presented the site and zoning. He provided an overview and showed the plat for visual aid. He noted that staff recommended approval.
  • Director Ghandour asked if the parking spaces should be designated as private.   Discussion ensued.
  • The applicant noted that they will be marked on the plat as private.   Director Ghandour commented on the technicality of an arrow.
  • Motion: DIRECTOR GHANDOUR MOTIONED TO APPROVE ORCHARDS PHASEPLAT WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE PARKING SPOTS ARE APPROPRIATELY DESIGNATED AS PRIVATE AS WELL AS THE ARROW CORRECTION AT24AM. DEPUTY FIRE MARSHALL BRANDON VALLEY SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR VOTED YES: BRIM, ELLIS GHANDOUR, VALLEY, AND JOHNSON. THE VOTE CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.  
  • Utah City PhasePlat
  • Senior Planner Hancey provided a background and the plat for this item. He asked about the slope easement.   Mr. Tatton noted that it continues the whole length of vineyard connector.
  • Director Brim asked questions for locational context.   Director Brim noted that the vicinity map is incorrect.
  • Senior Planner Hancey discussed his conversation with the city attorney.   Director Brim asked if Senior Planner Hancey could read all of the conditions for the record.
  • Senior Planner Hancey noted: any commercial uses of public property must be recorded through a separate plat; make sure the bridge does not allow for unlimited width and would shadow the road, it is only allowed on higher floors and not as a substitute for pedestrian traffic; add language about the arcades with overhanging structure over the sidewalk; to be approved by staff prior to recordation; update any addressing; update the slope easement; update the vicinity map; Phaseblock contains aft PUE; and the developer and city shall enter into an agreement for the transferring of the private streets to public prior to the issuance of the C of O for each adjacent block.
  • Director Ghandour added comments on the sky bridges.   Senior Planner Hancey added that this could be something tied to the site plan.   Director Brim feels that what is presented is sufficient.
  • Senior Planner Hancey noted that Assistant City Engineer Patrick James is requesting a PUE going North to South.   Mr. Tatton discussed future steps.     Mr. Tatton noted the bridge is about feet.
  • Director Ghandour clarified markings on the plat.   Mr. Tatton clarified.   Discussion ensued.
  • Motion: DIRECTOR BRIM MOTIONED THE APPROVE1 AND2 WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS AT40 AM. SENIOR PLANNER HANCEY READ THE CONDITIONS: ANY COMMERCIAL USES OF PUBLIC PROPERTY MUST BE RECORDED THROUGH A SEPARATE PLAT; MAKE SURE THE BRIDGE DOES NOT ALLOW FOR UNLIMITED WIDTH AND WOULD SHADOW THE ROAD, IT IS ONLY ALLOWED ON HIGHER FLOORS AND NOT AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC; ADD LANGUAGE ABOUT THE ARCADES WITH OVERHANGING STRUCTURE OVER THE SIDEWALK; TO BE APPROVED BY STAFF PRIOR TO RECORDATION; UPDATE ANY ADDRESSING; UPDATE THE SLOPE EASEMENT; UPDATE THE VICINITY MAP; PHASEBLOCK CONTAINS AFT PUE AND MUE; AND THE DEVELOPER AND CITY SHALL ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT FOR THE TRANSFERRING OF THE PRIVATE STREETS TO PUBLIC PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF THE C OF O FOR EACH ADJACENT BLOCK. ANY CONDITIONS STATED IN THE STAFF REPORT WOULD BE APPLICABLE AS WELL. CITY MANAGER ELLIS SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR VOTED YES: BRIM, ELLIS GHANDOUR, VALLEY, AND JOHNSON. THE VOTE CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.       3.
  • Work Session  1.Vineyard Properties of Utah LotSite Plan
  • Senior Planner Hancey introduces the site and context. He discussed the access road.   Engineer James added his findings for the drainage easement. He noted his comments.   Director Brim asked for details on the retaining wall.   Engineer James noted that the drawings do not show enough detail enough to determine where things lay.   Director Ghandour that the retaining wall is a separate permit.
  • The applicant noted that the owner does not want to shrink the size.   Discussion ensued   Director Ghandour if the applicant has considered piping in the canal.
  • City Manager Ellis added that there may be hesitation from other partners.   Brett Wood, the applicant, commented on neighboring sites.   Director Ghandour noted the concern for the impact of storm water flow.
  • City Manager Ellis suggested a condition.
  • The applicant discussed their understanding.   City Manager Ellis asked if they could get that in an email for a paper trail.   Director Ghandour added the flow calculations.   Engineer James noted that this is an opportunity to beautify that ditch.
  • Director Brim asked if we had any landscaping plans.   Engineer James noted that the landscaping plan is shown.   The applicant noted that they can add landscaping.
  • Director Brim requested more details for Planning Commission.   Senior Planner Hancey noted that the original landscaping plan was for a native grass and seed mix. He added that they would like to see more prior to planning commission   Director Brim requested for something in writing from Lindon.   Engineer James clarified that it is a Vineyard city easement.
  • Planning Technician Madison Reed asked for the names of the speakers.   Engineer James noted that the back parking lot does not connect.
  • Senior Planner Hancey provided the elevations. He announced his comments.   Director Brim asked for color.   Senior Planner Hancey represented the color legend.
  • Deputy Fire Marshall Valley noted for signage of no parking.   Senior Planner noted that this is slated potentially for Planning Commission the next week.   
  • Adjournment   The meeting was adjourned at57am. MINUTES CERTIFIED COMPLETE ON: Julyth,25 CERTIFIED (NOTICED) BY:                                                      Madison Reed, Planning Technician
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Event transcript
OK. 00:00:00
But we're gonna start our DRC meeting. It is. 00:00:05
9:00 on May 1st, 2025. 00:00:14
OK, there's no. 00:00:24
Does anybody have to have a Commission report? 00:00:25
No. So we just need approval of our consent items. 3.1 Approval of the January 16th, 2025 Development Review Committee meeting 00:00:28
minutes. 00:00:32
And 3.2. 00:00:36
Approval of the February 20th, 2025 Development Review Committee minutes. 00:00:38
Motion to approve UH consent items 3.13.2. 00:00:43
Uh, first buy Morgan. 00:00:47
2nd. 00:00:48
Second by Eric. 00:00:49
Oh, something all in favor. 00:00:52
All in favor. 00:00:55
Hi. Hi. How are you? 00:00:56
All right, business items, our first business and last from 4.1 you custody. 00:00:59
So the platinum amendment from the. 00:01:03
Satin with BlackBerry is requesting approval of the Etacity Phase 3 Platt amendment. 00:01:05
Alright, I can introduce this item that can be reloading here real quick. 00:01:12
OK. Phase three consists of 10 locks and two partials located uh within custody. Development is originally approved May of last 00:01:15
year. 00:01:19
Umm, this amendment will fix some addressing issues. 00:01:24
Space arrow and putting encroachments and include language that all private roads shall be available for public east of our time. 00:01:26
Pop the part here. 00:01:32
Umm, so you can see this might look familiar. Umm, it has been, uh, recorded. But we are. 00:01:34
You know, requesting an amendment here. 00:01:39
Umm, like the the addresses? 00:01:41
And then you can see those. 00:01:44
Right away encroachments right here. 00:01:45
Right along block 13 C. 00:01:47
Umm. 00:01:50
The one request that we did have in in my understanding that they might already have. 00:01:51
Have a new plat on on the way. 00:01:56
Was just to fix the the hash mark. You'll see the the slope easement. 00:01:58
The PUE and MUE. 00:02:02
And even part of the right away encroachment I'll have this diagonal patching. 00:02:04
Umm, that all looks fairly similar. 00:02:08
Uh, the legend over here. 00:02:10
Just kind of shows aerial encroachment. 00:02:12
I just wanted to. 00:02:14
Clar clarify that. 00:02:15
Umm, I mean, I know what what? 00:02:16
It's supposed to be, but. 00:02:19
Uh, just for future use, it'd be helpful. 00:02:20
You know, it was a different symbol or something like that. 00:02:23
So that that's really the only comment from planning. Everything else looks great. 00:02:25
Oh so I have a comment. Umm but. 00:02:30
Uh, uh, Patrick, was there anything else for you? 00:02:33
Uh, my comment is regards to the dedication to the road. 00:02:35
Umm, I thought we had moved towards us. 00:02:39
The public roads. 00:02:42
Uh, from. 00:02:43
I haven't done a rough decade because I know that there's a path in the process. 00:02:45
Further occur. 00:02:49
Sir, can you hear me? Yeah. 00:02:57
Umm, I think. 00:02:58
I think that is the case. 00:02:59
Like on on Main Street and Avery. 00:03:01
And we'll come back in and do roadway dedication slab. 00:03:04
As the building. 00:03:07
Uh, the building tabs get further along. 00:03:09
So it's like 14 D and 8A. 00:03:12
Those will be the first two buildings in this plat. 00:03:14
That will will be opening. 00:03:17
We're probably. 00:03:20
What BJ like 8 months? 00:03:21
Out on 14 D opening. 00:03:24
CFO. 00:03:25
For 12 months. 00:03:27
So. 00:03:30
Somewhere, sometime around there before occupancy happens, I think we'll come back in with us. 00:03:30
A roadway dedication plan, but. 00:03:36
There's so much work going on here. 00:03:37
Umm, I think that's the reason why they're. 00:03:40
All gonna record initially as private and then we'll do roadway dedication classes. The buildings get closer to definition. 00:03:42
Umm Bronson, Ontario, obviously that City Hall site or vineyards hire site on the West side where we have a. 00:03:49
Agree that that's EU dot easement. 00:03:55
Uh-huh. 00:03:58
So where we have the parking structure that's gonna essentially align that, is there an opportunity? 00:03:59
You know from you dot to potentially put in like a road or something. 00:04:04
Behind it. 00:04:08
For access to like the the mag. 00:04:10
Warehouse. 00:04:12
Because we have like the courtyard. 00:04:14
Concept that's gonna separate parking structures from City Hall. 00:04:16
Is there a way to get access? 00:04:19
On that, would they allow something like that? They said they would allow like a frontage Rd. 00:04:21
As long as it's on our property like. 00:04:26
We've talked about it as a deceleration lane. 00:04:28
It would be in the easement, yeah. 00:04:32
Oh man, that. 00:04:34
Yeah. 00:04:36
As long as it's outside of EU dot right away and the slope easement is out in the. 00:04:37
And right away. 00:04:41
I mean, that was just. 00:04:42
Really high level discussions and. 00:04:43
I think we could totally use your guys help and. 00:04:46
Continuous conversation we have. We have a pre op meeting with Oh I see. You know when I say we, the city has a pre op meeting 00:04:48
with the dot on May 14th. I'm on the 2nd or 13th. 00:04:53
Uh, is that something we can put on? 00:04:58
Or if you know. 00:05:00
And the the the signing of the winners. 00:05:01
Center, uh, facility as well. And then the question onto the. 00:05:04
Great honor. So that is the topic too for discussion. What we have like Bronson or any of his crew on that or is that just the 00:05:09
city meeting that has to be in UMM? 00:05:13
Do you? OK, So it might be worth having a are they are they wanting that? 00:05:18
Umm, just, well, I'm sorry, no City VOC and Memphis Studio. 00:05:21
Yeah. I mean, we, we could, we could probably set a different meeting so you guys can help. OK, we're gonna do that on and then 00:05:27
come back. 00:05:30
Typically when it comes to the dot and questions on those business so. 00:05:32
So, uh, we're a customer. Talk about ease easement, uh. 00:05:37
The sorry umm, the. 00:05:41
There is a uh. 00:05:45
Have a blanket space agreement, uh, in regards to. 00:05:46
Uh, municipalities utilizing slow business. 00:05:50
Uh, for the purposes of. 00:05:53
Public. 00:05:55
Uh, good. 00:05:56
And yeah, for the public good. 00:05:58
Uh, and they can't be non permanent structures. 00:06:00
The hot spells though, it does a Rd. 00:06:03
Could be OK. 00:06:05
As long as it's not a private. 00:06:07
It seems like for a fire accident, yeah, I mean. 00:06:09
There's, there's, there's that that gets you on the north side of the building and then. 00:06:13
Keeps kind of the, umm, integrity of the courtyard design in place. 00:06:16
Yeah, the biggest part of the thing, and I know that. 00:06:21
Uh, and we can have the. I would prefer the discussion offline. 00:06:24
There's the biggest point about it, Uh. 00:06:27
Uh, the amount of encroachment and if. 00:06:30
Uh, because the last discussion was about. 00:06:33
Uh, the the. 00:06:35
Possibility of needing to retain retaining walls in order to utilize that for roads. 00:06:38
Improve improvement. 00:06:43
And that'll be where the. 00:06:44
Uh, maybe. OK, we'll have to. 00:06:45
Because I did a lot more. 00:06:47
OK on that. But again that's. 00:06:49
I think that's outside of this. 00:06:50
Participant Topic. 00:06:51
Uh, discussion, but. 00:06:53
No. 00:06:54
Use my language to on the. 00:06:56
On the sale of the easement. 00:06:59
So yeah, very happy. 00:07:01
I think so. And then, uh, but yeah, we're gonna have, I think it'll be beneficial to do the. 00:07:02
Initial discussion. 00:07:07
The developer and then before now. 00:07:09
I think as long as we kinda go. 00:07:12
Forward together, like unified on that idea. 00:07:14
Like a deceleration lane that gets access into. 00:07:17
Into the streets, into the. 00:07:20
Parking structures. 00:07:22
Oh, I'm sorry. 00:07:23
More maybe, Maybe I'm misinterpreted. Was it was your discussion about? 00:07:26
I wouldn't understand. I mean, that's not bad. So Ma, maybe that's part of the conversation too. 00:07:29
That's why we talked to them about. 00:07:35
Or EU dot meaning then so where we have an alignment. 00:07:37
But So what I was talking about? 00:07:40
For you. You too, guys. 00:07:42
Yeah, the architect. 00:07:45
You got 4 cards here. 00:07:47
If they are going to. 00:07:49
Without having to. 00:07:56
Sideways. That'd be great. 00:07:58
That's one of the ideas that was pretty impacted from. 00:07:59
Oh, I see. 00:08:03
To the warehouse. 00:08:05
Format, I like that too because potentially provided like another umm spot for fire access to today's before we are pushing in a 00:08:07
little bit, we've enhanced it or something like that. 00:08:11
But if the idea is to do a deceleration. 00:08:18
Yeah. And you can turn right off. It'd be like a right in, right out. 00:08:21
Scenario. 00:08:24
Yeah. So anyway that that's what I was. 00:08:25
OK. 00:08:28
To come from the north, down and around. 00:08:30
Yeah. 00:08:32
There's conversation, yeah. 00:08:34
O One thing that I have to point out to me there's, there's still might be some, uh, addressing issues on here. I just pointed out 00:08:38
with, uh, partial E&D, they're still both labeled 1000 N. 00:08:43
Umm, and they are. 00:08:48
Should be closer to. 00:08:50
Umm 83850. 00:08:52
More, umm, so there's other conditional approval. Uh, it could be something like that. 00:08:54
The applicant works without addressing issues with engineering prior to recommendation. 00:08:58
OK. 00:09:02
I think for the. 00:09:06
You know is. 00:09:08
Did you guys settle in on that Vineyard Center footprint? 00:09:09
We'll probably bring another platinum that subdivides 10A. 00:09:12
Yeah, 10 AM. 00:09:15
Mm-hmm. And I think, uh, also part of this, umm. 00:09:16
In regards umm. 00:09:20
Coming before the response, I think, umm, it would be. 00:09:21
Doing as well as a. 00:09:25
Umm, memorializing and agree with agreement in terms of how they're right away going to, uh, be. 00:09:26
Turned over that. 00:09:33
Uh, to the city, uh, for future. 00:09:34
We can kind of, uh, outline like. 00:09:36
Umm, we're gonna find the, uh, expense and so forth and the, and, uh. 00:09:39
And put down. 00:09:44
When I say timelines off timeline in terms of uh. 00:09:45
You know, umm. 00:09:48
Completion into those certain blocks and such. 00:09:49
Uh, the primary reason for that, and I think, uh. 00:09:51
More on uh, you know. 00:09:54
The PRC happened to how my operations have is. 00:09:56
Uh, and do you know when you'll be taking them over? Well, especially when you're taking over with, uh, resource planning and so 00:09:59
forth, Be like, uh. 00:10:02
Patrick, myself and some others has uh. 00:10:06
Spend all time developing uh. 00:10:09
Long range uh. 00:10:10
Payments. 00:10:12
Payment plans and funding sources and so forth So. 00:10:14
With that, uh, we can have something that's more codified. 00:10:17
For the justification to. 00:10:21
Umm, why we're why we're including certain aspects into. 00:10:23
OK, then no, Yeah, the normal public requires there. Why are you including some of those privacy? 00:10:27
Uh, when they're, when they may be looking on. 00:10:32
Uh, it's not. It's not. 00:10:35
Account as part of our plan. 00:10:37
Bye bye, I'll probably help that would that would help with the justification for. 00:10:39
So I think that we could turn over, I think in space right now and. 00:10:45
I can't remember what's in the notes. 00:10:48
Maybe zoom into those notes. I think there's just. 00:10:51
Two or three notes there underneath that easement hatches. 00:10:53
Interest is in accordance. I didn't know if I'd go over to the. 00:10:57
So you have the one paragraph there. 00:11:01
You're talking about this paragraph. 00:11:03
No, that paragraph's just about the uh oh. Yeah, it's available. 00:11:06
For public use, yeah. Just let's get a little clarification if I. 00:11:11
Like, maybe you're really familiar with this? I've run out. 00:11:16
Are we talking about? 00:11:19
Where we have condos or residential space. 00:11:20
Above. 00:11:23
Public right of way. 00:11:23
No, uh. 00:11:25
Nesting was talking about, I'm talking about when will the road. 00:11:26
OK, so does does this plot contain any of those areas where there? 00:11:29
Yeah. 00:11:33
Has do we have something from Jamie that says we, we, we can do that? Because I, I, I wouldn't wanna approve this plot. If you 00:11:34
haven't worked that out, it's in the owner's dedication setting up on the next page. 00:11:39
Or let's see. 00:11:45
Yeah. 00:11:47
Zoom in there. 00:11:48
And it talks about the easements in this. 00:11:49
So Anthony or Cash, do you have something from Jamie? From, from my understanding, Jamie has been working with their legal team on 00:11:52
the language for this. 00:11:57
Umm, he will also be 1 to find this. 00:12:02
So. 00:12:05
We can make sure in the end I've I've reached out to multiple times. 00:12:05
On it and just have not. 00:12:09
Burning the. 00:12:10
This and the other part we've waited. 00:12:11
How how do we work? How, how how do we approve something like like that's? 00:12:13
So you have a pretty major thing. This doesn't work out. I don't, I don't think we're in a spot where we we can approve a plot. 00:12:17
It, it, I mean, is it residential? And it's a, uh, it's a bridge. 00:12:23
Uh, this one doesn't have the bridge. 00:12:27
But right there is. 00:12:29
Uh, zoom back in there. 00:12:30
Kind of right in the middle, it says. 00:12:32
The undersigned owners reserve. 00:12:33
To itself themselves. 00:12:35
Perpetual airspace easement. 00:12:36
Including easements for support of. 00:12:38
An encouragement within the above dedicated. 00:12:40
Public events. 00:12:43
That that line and then the next. 00:12:45
Like note 1 and Note 2 in there. 00:12:48
Those were. 00:12:50
Those were the. 00:12:52
That was the text that came from Wade. 00:12:53
That Jamie and Wade had. 00:12:55
Been talking about but. 00:12:57
From from the City side, I don't know. 00:12:59
What? 00:13:02
Jamie has approved. That's probably something you guys need to work with. Yeah, I, I. 00:13:03
Can you do like a? 00:13:09
Condition of approval that. 00:13:10
That's worked out. Any red lines or? 00:13:12
Address What if if we could umm. 00:13:14
By share if we could maybe put this item. 00:13:17
At least umm on on hold in this meeting. 00:13:19
And then we can move to the other item. The other item is about the same issue. You're saying, umm, yeah, so. 00:13:23
What's the third one we got? 00:13:30
Orchard, Washington Orchards. 00:13:32
It's it's the bridges and the Res residential. 00:13:36
So this one is just the residential and then the platform has the bridge in it and the language is a little bit different to talk 00:13:39
about that bridge. 00:13:43
Mm-hmm. 00:13:48
What? What? 00:13:50
The the RJ I think it wasn't on my symptoms type of dentist type. But isn't it like a a bridge like a umm? 00:13:52
Average. 00:14:00
Yes, Skybridge has a skybridge that actually. 00:14:01
Goes completely across the street. 00:14:04
OK. On top three, it's. 00:14:06
Just encouragement into the right of way. 00:14:08
It goes vertically. 00:14:10
Right up the building. 00:14:11
Umm, if, if we could, I mean, I don't wanna, I don't wanna hold you guys up. I know you're on a tight time frame, but umm, I. 00:14:13
Personally don't feel comfortable until we get something from an attorney. 00:14:19
Eric's Eric's text name I don't know if maybe. 00:14:23
Cash or app if you wanna give Jamie a call and just. 00:14:25
Yes, I'm I'm sort of idea if if he approves. 00:14:28
A thumbs up on that. 00:14:32
But if not, then umm. 00:14:33
I would suggest that you continue it, uh, the other IOC reform issue, uh. 00:14:35
Another job. 00:14:39
Uh, Utah, uh, Utah State law, uh, does, uh. 00:14:41
Have it in there that umm. 00:14:44
The uh authority having jurisdiction in the Valley, umm, does preserve the right. 00:14:46
Uh, to uh, prohibit, uh. 00:14:52
Uh, anything that's. 00:14:55
Uh, goes over public right away. 00:14:56
That's what I'll be at the end of the danger. 00:14:58
Mm-hmm. Uh, so I just. 00:15:01
Take that, uh, like. 00:15:02
Uh, just thankful to say like. 00:15:04
1000 years now let's say like that that the. 00:15:06
Thy bridges or the overhang. 00:15:08
Call Dave Public Safety. 00:15:11
Let's say he does reserve the right to go in there and. 00:15:13
Either them download take it down. 00:15:15
Or, umm, make the necessary repairs? 00:15:17
Uh, without the ORS approval. 00:15:20
All right, Yeah. 00:15:22
And then if you can, go back to the plaque. 00:15:23
Just I I wanna see the umm, block four of the promenade really quick. 00:15:26
Because I, I, well, what I would like kinda, kinda in addition to this, and maybe this is something that we could tackle with a 00:15:30
future plot with the condition on this plot. 00:15:34
But. 00:15:37
I I think anything that's that's like a. 00:15:38
I I understand we worked out kind of the, the leasing. 00:15:41
Block 5 for the Aquatic Center. 00:15:44
But what we're putting restaurants and, and, and there's I know there's a couple spots that we talk about on the promenade. 00:15:47
I I don't know those are areas too that I would like. 00:15:53
Jamie to look at. 00:15:56
Because if we're. 00:15:57
Essentially a private use. 00:15:58
Within a What's gonna become a public park? 00:16:00
Do we do that? 00:16:03
Is that do we just break off that one piece? 00:16:05
As a, umm, as a private piece. 00:16:08
That still has like maybe a public easement through it. 00:16:11
Umm, I don't, I, I, I could just kind of foresee some of those. 00:16:14
Turning into. 00:16:17
Issues as far as the property ownership, what we allow within. 00:16:19
And I I would like to have those things kind of worked out or maybe the condition. 00:16:24
That a plat it's recorded with the proper easements and legal documentation. 00:16:28
Prior to any occupancy. 00:16:33
Sounds good on my suggestion that if if they do move forward with the commercial use here, we could go back and. 00:16:37
Do not work on that. Could you while while we're working on this? 00:16:41
Umm. 00:16:44
Portrait item could could you develop some language for for condition? 00:16:46
For the Comer, OK, yeah, but would that be right? Just contact with them? You want me to call Jamie or? 00:16:50
Uh, the information regarding the call now if you want to have. 00:16:57
OK. 00:17:01
Got it. 00:17:02
Yeah, thanks. I know there is a lease agreement to specifically on the resort pool for the restaurant with land. 00:17:04
Yeah. And that'll fall within that. 00:17:10
Lease agreement so I don't know if it needs to be handled. 00:17:12
From the platter of the lease agreement. 00:17:14
I I think I think that we have that one worked out. 00:17:17
I think, I think we're, we're fine with that. 00:17:19
It's more of umm. 00:17:21
Block 4 where umm, there's gonna be like a pop up in my commercial, which is great. I mean that's something I think it's gonna 00:17:23
activate. 00:17:26
Base, it's really wonderful, but. 00:17:30
I I wanna make sure just that. 00:17:32
Like what's the mechanism? Because like if it's. 00:17:33
I know, I know it's seven years, but to me that's that's permanent. So for having a permanent type of restaurant there, maybe it 00:17:37
goes away with something else comes in. 00:17:40
I just wanna make sure that we, uh, you know that. 00:17:44
Like from an ownership standpoint, is that is something that James OK with it being public? 00:17:47
With a restaurant on public. 00:17:52
Property. 00:17:53
Do we do it at least? 00:17:54
So do we just carve out in the middle as one of your parcels? 00:17:56
Yeah, I know. Yeah, Yeah. So if we could do that with condition, then I'm OK, then we can work that out before. 00:17:59
Data use comes in a place. 00:18:05
Yeah, sounds good. 00:18:07
Any other comments? 00:18:13
Uh, that that we're. 00:18:15
Pushing us further. 00:18:17
He's talking with Jamie right now, so why don't we go ahead and move? 00:18:20
If you're OK with the spice sheriff's item, umm. 00:18:23
4.3 And then we can we can work them out of that one. 00:18:26
So we're gonna move on to business setting. 00:18:29
4.3 Orchard Springs, Florida. 00:18:31
Are you on this one? Yes, I am. 00:18:35
OK, so umm. 00:18:38
Just to give your location context, we umm. 00:18:41
We'll be looking at a client application. 00:18:44
In the highlighted area. 00:18:47
Looking like uh. 00:18:49
The Utah map, almost. 00:18:50
Umm, wrapping around an open space and this area here is gonna be there. 00:18:53
Umm, pub house. 00:18:57
OK, so. 00:18:59
The density. 00:19:00
Umm for the proposed project. 00:19:02
The, I mean the zoning for the first project is the H. 00:19:04
The R2 which is high density or invention. 00:19:07
Uh, which allows for what the applicant is. 00:19:10
Uh, potentially looking to build in the area. It allows for medium and high density. It's gonna be townhomes. 00:19:14
Umm, in compliance with. 00:19:21
The applicable zoning density and. 00:19:22
So far. 00:19:25
Would handle the design standards in the future when they come in for a flight plan application. 00:19:26
Uh, the total area of the space is almost 3 acres. Umm is gonna be 10 buildings. 00:19:32
Uh, giving us 10, uh, 35. 00:19:38
Private unit. 00:19:40
And, uh, some common area to be used by. 00:19:41
Tenants or residents of the area. 00:19:44
Umm, The site is intended to promote workability, you know. 00:19:47
And with all this open space integration? 00:19:52
And efficient access to existing infrastructure. 00:19:55
In the area. 00:19:58
Further architectural features will be. 00:19:59
Addressed during umm. 00:20:02
A pipeline application when they get there on the building by the organizations. 00:20:04
So going straight to the application. 00:20:08
This is the plan. 00:20:12
Umm. 00:20:13
I just used this. 00:20:17
They need. 00:20:19
You know we, we. 00:20:20
Provided. Planning department provided. 00:20:21
Umm, all of the. 00:20:24
Comments that we. 00:20:26
Thought should be addressed and they addressed it accordingly. There was a little bit of back and forth. 00:20:28
But everything has been addressed, they meet all the requirements. 00:20:33
For umm. 00:20:36
What the plant is umm intended to? 00:20:39
And also what the county requires for this to be recorded. 00:20:42
So. 00:20:46
Umm staff. 00:20:47
Recommends the approval of. 00:20:48
The plaques as presented. 00:20:50
Does the engineering have, uh, any common? 00:20:54
No, no, no, no comment. 00:20:59
Umm. 00:21:03
This is Mara for me. Uh, more of a umm. 00:21:05
I don't know, like nuanced technicality type thing. 00:21:08
On the market spaces that are showing on here. 00:21:12
Uh, I do recognize that it's on a private road. 00:21:14
Umm, but but then there's, uh, areas that show common areas. 00:21:17
I think one of the is just. 00:21:21
Mistake only just shy of us. 00:21:23
Of, uh, the common area it's. 00:21:24
Actually pointing towards the growth. 00:21:26
Mm-hmm. But, uh, do you think, uh, I asked this question, I'm asking the question. 00:21:28
Taking their direction, but uh. 00:21:31
Should those parking spaces be designated private parking spaces or are they sending the open? 00:21:34
Of of it because again. 00:21:39
Private road. 00:21:40
Is for public use. 00:21:41
I don't want that, so I'll make sure that there's like a clear. 00:21:44
Black and white distinction between. 00:21:47
Uh, intense at the parking station. Are you talking like where it says like 3 parking? Like the parking? Yeah. So off, off the 00:21:48
road, Yeah. I mean, typically sometimes the class where they, where they have, uh, private roads that are, uh, open to the public. 00:21:53
They'll have, uh, undeposited cell phones to say and, but the intent of those parking spaces are to be utilized for. 00:21:59
The homeowners. 00:22:05
Early Tuesday, right now. 00:22:07
Of that area. 00:22:08
And not just for, not just a common. 00:22:09
Parking space. 00:22:11
That we just have, uh, private parking space. And then if there is a parking space that's kinda like for a. 00:22:12
Park area that might be open to the public they might spend that would be the same public. I just wanna make sure that we're can 00:22:17
you scroll up? 00:22:20
Up to Athens to the top. 00:22:23
OK. 00:22:25
Yeah, I find I should use the distinction between the intents for those uses of parking spaces. 00:22:26
So Mike, umm, this this road. 00:22:33
I if you, uh, maybe come up. 00:22:35
Is is it so? This road is intended to be a private. 00:22:37
That's a private run, you know I won't just mark them as private. 00:22:41
Parking spaces, it's all controlled by the HOA. 00:22:44
Yeah, like that. I just wanted to make sure there's a black and white distinction between, because there's nothing with that too. 00:22:47
Yeah, it's a public it's. 00:22:50
Open to the public, but then. 00:22:54
It just becomes like a good. 00:22:55
Public park expenses or private parking? 00:22:57
We'll mark them on the Platys Private. 00:22:59
That's all I hear. 00:23:01
Uh, and then anything else rough out this, uh, this is again technicality, but the common space. 00:23:07
I get to go right above unit. 00:23:12
28th. 00:23:13
Dash O-1. 00:23:14
That error for the common space is too. 00:23:16
Pavement, not the. 00:23:19
Of the ARC and not the ARC. OK, again, that's small business, alright. 00:23:20
I don't have any other. 00:23:26
Question. OK. 00:23:27
Any other comments? 00:23:31
Thank you. 00:23:38
Thermotion would be. 00:23:47
Uh, required to. 00:23:49
Approve this. 00:23:51
And umm, this would also need to state the. 00:23:52
Umm, conditions. 00:23:56
For disapproval. 00:23:57
OK, can I get a motion? 00:23:58
4.3 ultra space. 00:24:02
Gonna put uh, so I'll go ahead since I have the comments done. 00:24:03
I'll go ahead and motion for approval. 00:24:07
Horses, uh, fast, uh, phase 4. 00:24:09
Path umm with the condition that. 00:24:13
Uh, the parking spots are designated appropriately to. 00:24:16
Uh, private parking spaces. 00:24:20
As well as the the. 00:24:22
Error on the common space above unit 28-1. 00:24:24
Is correct. It's. 00:24:29
To, uh, show the correct, uh, location. 00:24:30
First question, can I get a signal? 00:24:34
I'll second that. 00:24:37
Second by Brandon and this is by roll call. 00:24:38
Morgan Umm yes. 00:24:41
Mm-hmm. Yes. 00:24:43
Yes. 00:24:45
We're gonna go back to 4.1. 00:24:47
Umm yes. So if if umm. 00:24:49
Brilliant that that, that'd be great. Umm, I think since. 00:24:51
We review that. I think we might have kind of a similar issue with 4.2. 00:24:54
If we could just review 4.2 at this point and I I would suggest maybe we could just make those in in the same motion. 00:24:59
Umm, or or or we could break them out. 00:25:05
That works. 00:25:08
OK, umm, let me just. 00:25:09
Hope the report here. 00:25:13
Umm. 00:25:15
So phase 4 consists of 11 locks. 00:25:16
Great. Umm, I I apologize just to go back to the umm. 00:25:19
The last item. 00:25:23
Did did everyone vote on the motion? 00:25:24
Let me ask you a question again. This is a, uh, procedure question. 00:25:28
Besides the demotions that I actually have to pay. 00:25:31
I don't know. Then you still. Yeah. 00:25:34
Oh man, this half. 00:25:37
And uh. 00:25:39
On 4.3, All right, yeah. 00:25:42
Alright, just a second. That's good. That's good. Yep. 00:25:45
OK. 00:25:49
Umm yeah. So this is the living off. It does have similar aerial, aerial and footing encroachment. 00:25:50
Umm, this one is a different. It does. It does have the bridge. 00:25:56
Umm, and. 00:26:00
What up here? 00:26:02
Here's the flat you can see this is the. 00:26:04
Encroachments right here so you can see the different as it does. 00:26:07
Fan the two box over Dover St. 00:26:10
Umm. 00:26:12
Mm-hmm. Does it a lot. 00:26:15
Umm, they were able to get umm adequate addressing on this one. Umm the one question I did have for the applicant is that that you 00:26:17
got easement. 00:26:21
So abusement ends, right? 00:26:25
Here apparently. 00:26:27
Umm. And I just wanna make sure it doesn't. 00:26:29
Check for the north. It does. 00:26:31
Tim sent me an update, but I don't think I had a chance to. So that was one of the conditions of approval is just to note that 00:26:33
book easement on the spot as well. 00:26:36
Yeah, it goes all the way up to 1200 N. 00:26:40
I think it keeps going north too. 00:26:44
And then we don't have a flat for that next. 00:26:47
Sure, you know, personal to the north, but I think it continues. 00:26:49
The whole length of in your connector and we'll we'll make sure we show a contact. 00:26:53
So, umm. 00:26:58
North Promenade? Where, where? Where would that land? 00:27:00
That that Essex Blvd. That's 1200 more so is OK SO13D. 00:27:03
Is that right above? 00:27:08
10A. 00:27:09
Yeah. 00:27:12
1380 is above yeah or no? 00:27:13
Sorry. 00:27:16
We subdivided 13A and B. 00:27:17
For A&D. 00:27:20
In these plat. 00:27:21
We may have to come in and revise that if. 00:27:25
The parking structure. 00:27:27
Settled both of those lots. 00:27:29
Uh-huh. 00:27:31
But I would we haven't designed that yet, so. 00:27:33
And if that doesn't cycle. 00:27:37
It's track. We just wanna have that. 00:27:38
Oh yeah, it should be for yourself. 00:27:41
Well, let's see. 00:27:45
No, actually that might. I think this is the retaining pond. 00:27:46
Right here. 00:27:49
Zoom in there a little bit. 00:27:54
Or cash. 00:27:55
Yeah, I was thinking Vineyard Connector was 1200 N. 00:27:58
But 1200 N yeah is up there. 00:28:03
Yeah, maybe a little further. It may not be in the right spot. 00:28:06
I'll get a chance on that. 00:28:09
Yeah, make a note on that one. 00:28:10
So. 00:28:13
Umm, I, I did speak with Jamie about the, the language for the in the owner's education and he said that he spoke with, uh, their 00:28:13
attorney. 00:28:17
I believe yesterday on this and and he was OK with that language that was. 00:28:21
Was proposed. We don't have the updated spot yet, but he. 00:28:25
January is generally OK with with the language and simply. 00:28:28
Umm, he just wants to make sure that that the bridge, that the the language. 00:28:31
Of the owner, segregation says where that bridge is at on the elevation. 00:28:35
Umm I I I believe that the the site branches on the 4th floor. 00:28:39
Umm. And he wanted that to be reflected in here, that it would only be located higher up, not like on the second floor. 00:28:43
Cash could you? Umm, unless there's other comments. 00:28:49
Umm, could you read? 00:28:52
The a all the conditions and into the record and then make a motion with those conditions do I have? 00:28:54
Eric, were you sending me the ones from Jamie? 00:29:00
Yeah, you. 00:29:05
OK. 00:29:07
OK, I'm looking for an e-mail. There we go. 00:29:09
OK. 00:29:23
So this is what what, James? 00:29:23
See in it. Let me write these down. 00:29:25
Umm. 00:29:32
Make sure that the bridge doesn't allow for unlimited width. 00:29:34
And that which out of the road which the the right of way is pretty clear and the tax marks of where that bridge would be located. 00:29:37
Umm. So I I think that is addressed in the plat itself. 00:29:43
Umm. 00:29:47
And that it is only allowed on higher floors. 00:29:49
Umm, and not as a substitute for pedestrian traffic. 00:29:52
OK, so that would be condition one. 00:29:57
So uh yeah, yeah. 00:29:59
Oh, let's, let's speak. We can just make that as condition one. 00:30:01
OK. 00:30:08
And travel. 00:30:20
OK, umm. 00:30:22
And then the the other thing you mentioned is. 00:30:28
To, umm, add language about the arcades with overhanging structure over the sidewalk. 00:30:31
And then I'd put like to be approved by staff. 00:30:48
Prior to umm recordation. 00:30:52
35 S. 00:30:55
Sorry. 00:30:58
Does that look OK? 00:31:04
Yeah. 00:31:05
Does that, does that? Is that everything plus the condition that you talked about before that? 00:31:06
Yeah, I have that as as the top one. I'd say any commercial use of the property must be recorded. 00:31:11
What? 00:31:16
I don't know if there's something else you'd like to see on that. 00:31:17
But I mean that works so. 00:31:20
I can hear you because then the the vicinity map. 00:31:24
And then the addressing on Plat 3. 00:31:27
Uh, sort of the two notes that I have. 00:31:29
Update too and the addressing. 00:31:31
Update the float or not? Yeah, for. 00:31:35
The other we we could add that in there. 00:31:38
Just. 00:31:40
Mm-hmm. Alright, uh. 00:31:45
Are you? So you're making your right pipe on the conditions for all, OK. Do you want me to read them all into the records and then 00:31:47
cash before we'll write it down real quick? 00:31:51
Umm, just on the on that. 00:31:55
Pedestrian grades. There is applicable code height for the maximum height umm. 00:31:58
So I don't know if that needs to be on the. 00:32:03
You included that not to exceed. 00:32:06
Work display says higher floors. 00:32:08
Mm-hmm. Not to exceed them. 00:32:10
Which I care it wouldn't because it's gonna have to go through SO to review them. 00:32:12
Alright. And then, uh, OK. 00:32:16
Since you're typing up the. 00:32:22
Uh, conditions. 00:32:23
Uh, can't have the condition in regards to the. 00:32:24
Umm, have everything, uh. 00:32:27
Everything now I I. 00:32:31
I don't know if you wanna call MOU or agreement, uh. 00:32:32
In regards to, uh, the phasing of. 00:32:34
Uh, transfer the privacy. 00:32:37
Private, uh, speak to. 00:32:40
Yeah, how? How you want me to? 00:32:43
Different, uh, just so there is a. 00:32:44
You know their their well-being. 00:32:47
Yeah, just. 00:32:49
He will inquire the recommendation because. 00:32:51
You know if if we just say that there is 1 then. 00:32:54
We can record this and then that condition. 00:32:57
Doesn't push out like the developer. Show uh, the developer in the shower into the, uh, developer AMI in regards to the phasing 00:33:00
of. 00:33:04
Private, uh, and. 00:33:09
For private growth? 00:33:11
Umm, To actually be transferred over to the, uh, city, uh, once the uh. 00:33:13
Like, uh. 00:33:20
I would say prior to, prior to the CEO of the. 00:33:23
Uh, the building of that base. 00:33:26
All right. 00:33:31
So this way when the building is complete and activated. 00:33:34
It's been. It would have triggered the uh transfer though. 00:33:36
Uh, of the payments. 00:33:39
To the setting. So this way we can actually have a kind of more of a timeline with the phasing. 00:33:40
Well, and I'm sure, uh. 00:33:46
I'm I'm sure that the. 00:33:51
Uh, but uh. 00:33:53
You know, 20 tabs especially that's. 00:33:55
We put together in regards to all the payments, uh. 00:33:57
Hey, this is Sarah. Uh, we'll crash on us again. 00:34:00
But, uh, after we do so, so I, I just wrote out the development city health insurance through an agreement to the transferring of 00:34:03
the private St. 00:34:06
Public prioritions of ACO for each adjacent block, Yeah. 00:34:09
OK. 00:34:13
That's fine. And then, uh. 00:34:14
Perfect. Thank you. I know that, uh. 00:34:15
And this I guess is more of an operational thing that, uh, would have to be considered to. 00:34:18
I'm the developer in regards to this, uh, Skype. 00:34:21
And probably kind of like a 5 hour conversation that because we were having right before, uh. 00:34:24
Uh, uh, Brandon, myself and uh, Chris was having in regards to. 00:34:29
Uh, is it concerned is is those? 00:34:33
Private is considered building or is it considered, uh, public, uh, not public infrastructure? 00:34:35
So bridges like for example, bridges are uh. 00:34:41
Umm, anything over over. 00:34:45
Anything over uh. 00:34:49
Uh, longer than everything ADP does because it's a bridge. 00:34:50
Like technically a bridge bridge. 00:34:53
Umm, anything more than. 00:34:56
Anything tend to or why there is as long as. 00:34:59
To the bridge bridge. 00:35:03
Like an official bridge. 00:35:04
And umm, when it comes down to like for example, Center St. to the bridge. 00:35:05
Uh, and uh, even though it's main, even though it's owned and maintained by the city, that state has, uh, authority over it. 00:35:09
In regards to ensuring that the maintenance. 00:35:15
Is being any questions are being done properly? 00:35:17
Alright, so something like this that fall underneath the same category this would be. 00:35:20
Uh, follow the following meetings jurisdiction for for. 00:35:24
Uh, oversized expression by the municipality. 00:35:27
The city as well as the states concerned that the the maintenance is being done properly over over the years kind of where we. 00:35:30
What I mentioned before is that the city does reserve the right to ensure that. 00:35:36
Anything over a public. 00:35:39
Uh, public, uh. 00:35:41
Uh, access is, uh, there's no high. 00:35:43
Uh, so. 00:35:45
Uh, I mean, I take it, take this as like a golf course. A golf course can't decide to have. 00:35:46
Uh, and putting uh. 00:35:52
Uh uh, route through a public St. 00:35:54
Desire to act so people are shooting golf balls through. 00:35:56
That would be considered the the illegal use of aero air. Uh. 00:36:00
So hazardous use of airlines. 00:36:04
Uh, T times Times. 00:36:07
Uh, I just wanna make sure that. 00:36:08
I don't think this has that has to be part of the class, but I think, uh. 00:36:10
Uh, should have just That should just be consideration of the developers and share. 00:36:13
So the proper umm, yeah. And, and maybe that is something we can tackle with the site plan itself as we look at that bridge 00:36:18
further, you know? 00:36:21
Umm. And then we might have some conditions in there that like all inspections or whatever. 00:36:24
You know. 00:36:29
State and city. 00:36:30
Standards for for. 00:36:31
Yeah, I think what we have right now is is gonna be. 00:36:34
Probably sufficient to get the class in the process. 00:36:36
And then we can work like the UMM on UMM brand and exchange concerns through like the building and the site plan and stuff. 00:36:39
So the one other thing that Patrick brought up? 00:36:47
Just ask prompt. 00:36:49
Umm on 17? 00:36:52
Or 17. 00:36:54
There's the 10 foot TV. 00:36:55
That goes West, east. 00:36:57
And he's requesting one that. 00:36:59
Does Mark S look like the other blocks have that? Yeah, they should have it too. OK, let me put that on there as a, as a 00:37:01
condition. 00:37:04
OK. 00:37:07
And, uh, you know when? 00:37:08
Blocks when we actually bring in the building. 00:37:09
We see how it lays out within these blocks. We'll, we'll. 00:37:12
Just like block 4 for the grocery store will probably come in and record a new plat that actually. 00:37:15
Hit these lot lines exactly where they should be. 00:37:20
Fixed on the building design. 00:37:23
OK. And the the easements will be adjusted? 00:37:24
A few weeks will be adjusted for that. 00:37:27
Uh, real quick on the bridge, I just wanted to point out. 00:37:30
That the actual bridge spanning the road. 00:37:32
Is about 20 feet. 00:37:36
Because. 00:37:38
Some of the building you see where the little rectangles are. 00:37:39
Where the columns are landing down on the ground. 00:37:42
The units were expensive. 00:37:46
To that point. 00:37:47
And then the bridge just spans the actual asphalt. 00:37:49
From. 00:37:52
Building phase to building phase. 00:37:52
So the actual bridges. 00:37:54
It's like right around 20 feet wider, maybe 22. 00:37:56
Perhaps the curbs? 00:38:00
That's fine, alright. 00:38:01
To clarify that. So this, uh, rectangular inside the hash mark. Those are those are. 00:38:03
Call him on the check. I was going through the street. Yeah. So anything like that? No, not in the street, in the. 00:38:07
Like back behind. 00:38:12
So the columns will land behind her. 00:38:15
And then the bridge. 00:38:17
The actual St. which is. 00:38:20
Like 20 feet wide. 00:38:22
So the the. 00:38:25
So the lower rectangles are encroachment. 00:38:26
Where? Where we touched down on the ground. 00:38:29
And then everything else is. 00:38:31
Aerial. 00:38:32
So I guess the question is. 00:38:33
The the actual. 00:38:35
Maneuver and navigate and navigability around three years. 00:38:36
Was driven by the. 00:38:40
I don't it's restricted by the curb. 00:38:42
The curb is beyond both columns. 00:38:44
So there's like a bulb out or something, Yeah. 00:38:46
So they're protected by. 00:38:50
How wide is that? How wide is that treatment for like, let's just say? 00:38:52
I think it's 210 foot travel length. 00:38:57
To emphasize our. 00:39:00
OK, but then there's also. 00:39:02
You know the curve and. 00:39:06
Is also in that. 00:39:08
So it's probably a little over 20 feet. 00:39:09
But when we come in first pipeline, you'll see exactly. 00:39:11
OK, I've worked as well. Yeah, I guess we are in for site plan app. 00:39:14
But in fact, in fact, that the attentive Spanish is very rich. 00:39:18
Uh, Larry Barber. 00:39:22
OK, my last city we, we would hit, uh, we would be. 00:39:24
Uh, translators. 00:39:27
And Oh yeah, or if we had a problem with a uh. 00:39:29
We have problem with a uh over like a small uh store marketing to say, we come back and say it was no problem because it was 00:39:32
contacting to attempt. 00:39:36
Oh, you, you know what? Those are cash. I think it's because they're putting. 00:39:40
The footing is wider. 00:39:44
So the actual touchdown of the column. 00:39:45
Is wider than that 15 feet, but the footing down below. 00:39:48
Low grade. 00:39:51
We'll have that. 00:39:53
15 foot 8. 00:39:54
Yeah, between them. 00:39:56
But that'll be under the road. 00:39:58
Yeah. 00:40:00
So it's a column I mean. 00:40:01
I I know we're gonna look at that inside plan building, but. 00:40:02
Since we're not specifying dimensions here, that's on fire. Has looked at for like, you know, with 5000. 00:40:06
Such a small. 00:40:20
Portion where they have to look at like parking spaces generally after that OK yeah this was one that we. 00:40:21
We talked about like a dedicated parking. 00:40:27
For OK. 00:40:30
Emergency vehicles. 00:40:31
OK. 00:40:33
Great. 00:40:36
Umm, yeah. 00:40:37
So you want me to read these? 00:40:38
Yes, you can read those. Another record that umm what? What? Why don't we do this umm. 00:40:40
If that's OK by share, yeah. 00:40:44
OK, umm. 00:40:46
Motion to approve. 00:40:47
Umm, business. 00:40:49
4.1 Utah City, phase Three. 00:40:51
Platt Amendment. 00:40:54
And 4.2 Utah City. 00:40:55
Phase 4 Plat. 00:40:57
With the following conditions to be read in the record. 00:40:59
Any commercial uses of public property must be recorded through your separate plat. 00:41:02
The bridge is located. 00:41:06
On higher floors is to not substitute for pedestrian traffic. 00:41:08
Uh, it includes languages about arcade with overhanging structure over the sidewalk. 00:41:11
Umm it is to be approved by staff and City Attorney. Park reputation. 00:41:17
Umm, they update. Any addressing issues they update. 00:41:21
Smoke easement on Phase 4. 00:41:24
That the vicinity map on. 00:41:27
Plat and then phase four block 17 contains a 10 foot PE and NUI. 00:41:29
And the developer and city shall enter into an agreement for the transferring of the private St. public. 00:41:34
First issuance of. 00:41:38
For each different block. 00:41:40
Thank you. 00:41:42
And then, umm, any conditions listed in the staff report would be applicable as well. 00:41:43
That's my motion. 00:41:47
Thanks first time. 00:41:48
Second by Eric, All in favor. 00:41:51
Bye bye. 00:41:53
All right, bye. 00:41:54
We'll move on to our work session. We have one work session, 5.1 venue properties of Utah. 00:41:57
Well, six site plans that would with think on representing Martin Snow and MSI properties of vineyards is requesting review of 00:42:02
what. 00:42:06
6 Cyclone. 00:42:09
Application. 00:42:11
Alright. 00:42:13
Alright, uh, Yep, I'll handle this one as well. 00:42:17
Umm, so this is the site plan a few weeks ago. Generally we don't have a lot of comments from it from planning. I think 00:42:20
engineering is done a decent review of it. We kind of have one. 00:42:24
A major question to to talk about in this meeting. 00:42:29
So I'll get to that. Umm, just give me context here. This is the site plan. 00:42:32
Tile point is located just about right here. 00:42:35
And just to the top of it. 00:42:38
Here's the site, the kind of their traditional white concrete structure. 00:42:42
Umm, that. That's been building along the 1750 and and 1600. 00:42:46
This is the site, umm, we, we had no issues in terms of parking. They, they met those standards. 00:42:51
Umm, same thing with landscaping. The original pipeline wasn't quite up up to the. 00:42:57
Be with our our standards, but they were able to pick that and and. 00:43:01
Put an additional planting. 00:43:04
Umm, they have access to the site through this street here. 00:43:06
As well as this street right here. 00:43:10
Umm. 00:43:12
The may maybe what we can do is we can talk about this access so. 00:43:16
Back here there is a. 00:43:19
A drainage easement. 00:43:23
Umm, the the New Wind and Heritage Trail actually runs right here, uh, where my mouse is at. 00:43:25
And there is this little canal that that. 00:43:31
Just to the north of their property, so there's this train easement. 00:43:33
Umm that this. 00:43:37
Road this Access Rd. approach is on and so Patrick has been working with the city of women because they're the ones who have that 00:43:38
movement. 00:43:41
To kind of figure out. 00:43:45
Next steps on on how this road could be constructed so all him. 00:43:46
You know. 00:43:50
Yeah, so. 00:43:54
So I did some digging into the drainage easement. What I could find was there was an agreement is I think it's between Orem, 00:43:55
Pleasant Growth, Linden. 00:43:59
Convenient, umm, just to maintain the the. 00:44:04
The ditch that runs. 00:44:09
Run through here. 00:44:10
Umm, they collect. 00:44:12
Storm water from. 00:44:13
From. 00:44:14
Uh, kind of settled in that in the Linden Hollow area that that. 00:44:15
That's, uh, wetland area. 00:44:19
That big green, the wetland area, and then it runs through the ditch to the lake. 00:44:22
Uh, so from what I can see. 00:44:28
It it appears that. 00:44:31
Uh, back when the agreement was was made Vineyard City. 00:44:32
Uh, created this. 00:44:36
Uh, it's actually a 50 foot easement, 25 feet on each side of the property line, raised 25 feet on the other side as well. 00:44:38
So they. 00:44:46
They in that room, they decided that it was a 50 foot pitch. 00:44:47
Umm, so that's why they created this easement. 00:44:51
Umm. So I, I did talk to Linden about it and, uh, they. 00:44:55
They don't think it was. 00:44:59
Would be an issue to constructing there as long as. 00:45:00
Umm. 00:45:04
It was coordinated with the Army Corps of Engineers to determine if there was any wetlands being. 00:45:07
Uh, disturbed or needed to be improved? 00:45:12
Umm, and if the flow was not? 00:45:16
Was not blocked. 00:45:18
Umm, I did find an agreement that kind of went through. 00:45:20
Uh, design flows for the ditch. 00:45:23
So. 00:45:26
In in my umm approval with conditions on. 00:45:27
On this site or this plat? Umm. 00:45:32
I I just noted that. 00:45:35
That, uh, the retaining wall for that it's really needs to be more clearly identified. 00:45:37
Umm, with elegation showing you being crushed and on into the ditch bank. 00:45:42
Umm, but there needs to be coordination with the Army Corps of Engineers about the wetlands. 00:45:47
Uh, the flow of the ditch. The required flow of the ditch needs to be. 00:45:54
Assess and and. 00:45:58
Uh, verify that it it will not be. 00:46:00
Prohibited. 00:46:02
And then there's a lot of flag. 00:46:05
That runs. That makes up the the. 00:46:07
Going to that ditch. 00:46:10
And we, we talked, uh. 00:46:11
Of applicant and I talked about removing that. 00:46:13
Flagging, uh, creating more of a natural. 00:46:16
Last week. 00:46:20
Protection there at the bottom of that retaining wall. 00:46:21
To improve the conditions of the ditch. 00:46:24
Which was actually part of the, uh, the initial agreement for the ditch in the wetlands that. 00:46:26
A lot of the flags would be removed increase. 00:46:32
Create a kind of a. 00:46:34
More natural. 00:46:36
Ditch sync. So Patrick is the We can't involve the bolded line. 00:46:37
Yeah, that's right there. OK. 00:46:41
And so essentially, umm, 1 is saying check with our core, make sure it's not wetlands, you have the uh, proper. 00:46:43
Permits in place if it is a wetland. 00:46:50
Umm. 00:46:52
And so do we. Do we? So what we do we have your stand. 00:46:53
We don't have any details on the retaining wall right now. Do we know like height like? 00:46:56
We don't know height. 00:47:00
The the the times don't really show enough detail to show how far. 00:47:01
I mean it shows how far into. 00:47:06
The the ditch bank is running but it doesn't show the the elevation. 00:47:09
Clearly. 00:47:13
Umm, enough to determine kind of where. 00:47:14
Where things weigh, yeah, they're retaining. 00:47:18
I was all underneath those permits. 00:47:21
Uh, during this process for before the dawn department leave review, Yeah, the bill department. 00:47:23
So. But I think also. 00:47:28
Uh, uh, the condition is to ensure that, uh. 00:47:30
Capacity of the uh canal doesn't get, uh doesn't negatively reduced. 00:47:32
Yeah, I think I got back here just right, right up against it. I mean, with the applicant being here, is there? 00:47:37
You know, OK, I can. 00:47:43
Is there a way to sort of redesign the building and pull back a little bit so we're not? 00:47:44
And then PMPD in umm that area. 00:47:48
We pulled that building back. 00:47:51
Sorry, we'll have to. 00:47:54
Yeah. 00:47:56
Sure. I mean, let me. 00:47:58
The owner doesn't wanna. 00:48:01
Makes the building any smaller. 00:48:02
So. 00:48:04
The other we can just delete the road. 00:48:05
We just wanted it for maintenance and for fire. 00:48:08
How would you access the back parking lot? I'm not. 00:48:11
I'm not against it, right? I'm just wondering if you look at any alternative, but it sounds like you. 00:48:14
Yeah. 00:48:19
We, we, we just really wanted to clean it up that whole. 00:48:20
Each bank, right, There's pretty Yeah, first Bank. 00:48:24
Especially with your hiking trail going. 00:48:27
On the other side, have a good favorite doing that. 00:48:30
Uh, packing in the canal. 00:48:32
As long and then I mean, and then you could do it, you could do a temporary, uh, I mean it would be an easement on top of the. 00:48:34
On top of that, now which Rd. is a would not be considered a permanent, uh, permanent, uh, improvement anyway, no. 00:48:39
That could be condition, that could be. 00:48:47
Consideration as you pipe. 00:48:48
Now that would be if you would like to have. 00:48:50
I think that there would be hesitation by. 00:48:53
By the other partners, OK on that whole? 00:48:56
Umm project because it is intended to be a restored. 00:48:59
Area so they. 00:49:03
They've done work on the other side of the same bank. 00:49:04
And a recreational trail going on. And if it's intended to be? 00:49:08
International, an amenity to the side of the trail. 00:49:12
It's it'll be just. That's all right. 00:49:14
Put some billboards with some pictures, like my pictures and like there's water right here. 00:49:16
But they are doing the retaining wall on the north side of it similar to what we are doing, just trying to. 00:49:30
Pull back the trail net and retain it to where it's all functional and, you know, various. 00:49:35
The flows as it does have higher flows at times. 00:49:40
That that's essentially. 00:49:43
We're trying to manage exactly what's the cost. 00:49:44
Away from us. 00:49:47
In in what I think our concern again. 00:49:48
See, like what Patrick was talking about just ensuring that, uh, the proper. 00:49:51
Agencies have the are looking at and then. 00:49:54
Because of what the agreements that was done back in the. 00:49:57
Hey there with, uh, all the cities and, and I believe Mark. 00:50:00
Yeah, Mark Martin's know that's not an agreement I believe as well. 00:50:04
Uh, that, uh, we're not, uh, negatively impacting like the. 00:50:07
Uh, this? 00:50:11
The flow Washington storm water. 00:50:13
From because it does the fact that I mean it would have negatively impact. 00:50:15
The surrounding property. 00:50:19
I mean, we could. 00:50:21
It sounds like. 00:50:22
One of the conditions is that they would. 00:50:23
They would seek and. 00:50:25
And receive. 00:50:27
Either a no. 00:50:28
No action needed or. 00:50:30
Or some sort of accommodation from the Army Corps of Engineers? 00:50:31
Mm-hmm. And we could just. 00:50:35
Make that as a question. 00:50:37
Yeah, so I already spoke with our, our record, uh, engineers. They said as long as we can go below the high water. 00:50:39
Uh, you didn't need anything from them. 00:50:47
And we were able to get that in like a e-mail or something like that in an e-mail, but that was. 00:50:49
I asked that for your own sake, not sure. 00:50:54
Not for hours, just. 00:50:57
You would you would you want some sort of? 00:50:59
Paper trail that I made the request. 00:51:01
I responded as such. 00:51:03
That would be part of the time, yeah, we would, we would want that before approval from Planning Commission that's gonna come out. 00:51:05
And then the, I believe, I think it was in the notes about this just the storm water, uh. 00:51:10
Couch to show that they have a drainage calculation, the drainage calculator, the flow calculation, yeah. 00:51:16
Yeah, I mean. 00:51:22
Yeah. 00:51:23
With with talking with the applicant, we, we see this as an opportunity to to beautify and kind of restore that ditch base. 00:51:24
As well, because. 00:51:32
Like I said, part of that, uh, agreement that was established. 00:51:33
Umm, it was. It actually moved the ditch at one point. It was running through just. 00:51:38
Fierce flag eventually. 00:51:43
And they were concerned with. 00:51:45
The flag being picked up and and taken to the to the lake. 00:51:47
Umm. And so this is kind of an opportunity to take some of some more of that flag away. 00:51:51
Keep it away from. 00:51:56
Do we have a umm? 00:51:57
Any any landscaping plans like how how are we? 00:51:59
Are there other things that we can see as part of this work session? 00:52:02
Uh, cash is presenting the landscape time now. 00:52:06
Umm, I would think along that. 00:52:10
Retaining wallet would just be seated with natural. 00:52:12
Vegetation. 00:52:15
And we kind of didn't know. 00:52:17
Which direction to head until we? 00:52:19
Yeah, through this point. 00:52:22
Uh, like I said, we can add landscaping down through there. 00:52:23
That's not a problem. 00:52:27
We just we didn't know whether we're gonna keep the road in the retaining wall or. 00:52:29
Perhaps to pull it all out. 00:52:33
So I, I bore umm, these Planning Commission side plan. So I, I think this, this is great. I I'd like to see a umm. 00:52:34
OK, I just you, you can touch. OK, I I I'd like to see, umm, a cross section and a design that includes. 00:52:42
Like the the bank restoration, I think that. 00:52:48
That that is a really great benefit and that's part of the impacted area for the site plan. So if we could have. 00:52:51
More details on that clarify. 00:52:56
Umm, what kind of kind of what what the retaining wall is gonna be? Umm. 00:52:59
Then I don't. I don't necessarily have any any other questions but but. 00:53:03
Except for like that N parking lot, you have the docks coming. 00:53:07
OK. Like is the parking lot connected to that? That highway account is 1750. 00:53:11
Yeah. 00:53:17
That'll be connected to it. 00:53:18
OK, Yep. 00:53:20
Yeah, the their original landscape plan actually did show for for the whole area to be landscaped with like a native graph. 00:53:21
He's umm. 00:53:27
So yeah, I, I think it's good to have this conversation first, Umm, and then the the other thing Patrick and I, we're, we're 00:53:29
discussing if the, you know, the. 00:53:32
The best solution here is to move that road. Then then we definitely wanna see. 00:53:36
So what that area would be ramps it does. 00:53:39
As we try for umm. 00:53:42
For Planning Commission, but like the landscape plan. 00:53:44
Maybe get something in writing from from London? 00:53:46
It's that that that is the reason. I just wanna make sure that they're gonna. 00:53:49
Whatever goes to Planning Commission has a thumbs up from from Linden so. 00:53:53
Yep. 00:53:58
We were gonna actually stake it, stake that retaining wall and have Patrick come out. 00:53:59
Look at it and see exactly where we encroached and what we were. 00:54:04
We were cleaning up. 00:54:08
OK, wonderful. 00:54:09
Yeah, $500. That's probably a good opportunity to have, uh, Linden out there for you. 00:54:10
Yeah, it might be off. 00:54:13
Because of an existing. 00:54:15
Because it's been you're sitting on both sides, right? 00:54:17
Yeah, just to clarify the easement. 00:54:19
I think it's convenient to the evening. Umm. 00:54:21
But that but it was established because of the agreement with Pleasant Growth Forum and Linden. 00:54:24
Just to clarify. 00:54:31
OK. 00:54:32
Can I get y'all's name for the record? 00:54:34
Brentwood. 00:54:38
Kevin. 00:54:47
Yeah, that's part of the meeting. 00:54:51
We speak. We need your name. 00:54:54
Do you have umm? 00:55:02
Just just to look at them, we have to. 00:55:03
Any details? But like is there elevation or anything we can take a? 00:55:05
Click Look up. 00:55:09
And just after clarifying every morning, you, your question on, uh, how that. 00:55:11
Back, uh, parking lot from there. 00:55:17
So it it doesn't really look. 00:55:19
Like it does, but that's concrete. That's a concrete driveway on the website. Yeah, the way. 00:55:21
The next billing. 00:55:29
Can be a wider act. 00:55:32
Right, that's correct. 00:55:33
OK, yeah. And here's here's the elevations. And these are also things that that I, I have quite a few comments on. 00:55:37
Umm, but they they did. 00:55:42
So I did request that they add additional windows. They they accomplished that and then on. 00:55:44
North elevation with that parking lot there, you have a lot of employees entering and so I wanted to make sure that they had an 00:55:48
employee entrance that they could. 00:55:52
Umm, quickly access the building and so that. 00:55:55
Right here. 00:55:58
Umm, there's not. 00:55:59
West elevation with the garage base. 00:56:01
Some east elevation with another entrance. 00:56:03
And then the South elevation. So this is what you'd see from something 70. 00:56:06
And then for, for Planning Commission, if you could provide, umm, these are kind of things that they, they always wanna see. 00:56:09
Like, like color. Like what? What? What's the? Yeah, yeah. You know the bright pink this time, right? 00:56:15
With with, with bright pink and bright orange. That's what we're going for. 00:56:23
Well. 00:56:27
Yeah, there we go. 00:56:29
Yeah. 00:56:31
So yeah, they they did have the color legend here to show. 00:56:34
Black and white. 00:56:40
Like 1 OK. 00:56:44
OK. So, uh, cash up, have you reviewed like our design standards, yes, pipeline, do they, do they need those, those two? 00:56:46
OK. 00:56:53
Alright. 00:56:54
Umm, any other comments is fine. 00:56:56
Anybody have any comment? 00:56:58
Uh, my only comment was that. 00:57:00
Uh, just the. 00:57:03
Appendix D. 00:57:05
Approved. 00:57:06
In compliance signage for no parking long that if it. 00:57:07
If it ends up working out, please. 00:57:11
Yep, thank you. 00:57:12
OK, so this is slated potentially for, for next Wednesday for uh. 00:57:15
Final question, if we can get those documents? 00:57:20
Umm, it's not. We'll bump it to the next meeting. 00:57:22
OK. 00:57:25
Like I said there, there should be no motion from this actually on the. 00:57:28
Any other comments from in both? 00:57:32
OK. 00:57:35
Shell observation. 00:57:36
Thank you. 00:57:38