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Call to Order/Invocation/Inspirational Thought/Pledge of Allegiance Chair Brian Vawdrey called the meeting to order at00am. Staff and Commission Reports There were no reports.
Consent Items 1.Approval of the Aprild,25 Development Review Committee Meeting Minutes
Motion: DEPUTY FIRE MARSHALL BRANDON VALLEY MOTIONED TO APPROVE THE APRILD DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES AT02AM. BUILDING OFFICIAL CRIS JOHNSON SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR VOTED YES: VAWDREY, JOHNSON, GHANDOUR, VALLEY, ELLIS. THE VOTE CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Business Items 1. PLANPLAT25-0005 Final Plat Application- Orem UT YSA and Springwater Plat
Senior Planner Cache Hancey presented an introduction to the site.
Assistant City Engineer Patrick James added some of the feedback that was addressed. He noted that it appeared that the applicant made all of the edits. City Engineer and Public Works Director Naseem Ghandour asked about the additional foot. Engineer James responded in saying yes.
Senior Planner Hancey noted that it required a vote for approval.
Motion: DEPTY FIRE MARSHALL VALLEY MOTIONED TO APPROVE ITEM1. AS PRESENTED AT06AM. BUILDING OFFICIAL JOHNSON SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR VOTED YES: VAWDREY JOHNSON, GHANDOUR, VALLEY, AND ELLIS. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Work Session 1.PLAN24-0121 Site Plan with Conditional Use Permit - Ward Church Meetinghouse
Senior Planner Hancey introduced Planner Rachel Stevens.
Planner Stevens provided the background and noted the requirements that were met. She also provided the elevations. Planner Stevens noted that if there were no questions, these applications will be sent to Planning Commission the next week.
City Manager Eric Ellis entered in person. 2.
PLAN24-0127 Site Plan with Conditional Use Application- Springwater Church Meetinghouse
Senior Planner Hancey asked if this was reviewed in1. Planner Stevens noted yes.
Deputy Fire Marshall Valley brought up the traffic study. Engineer James noted that they did receive the updated traffic study. 3.
PLAN25-0010 Site Plan Application - Commercial Outdoor Recreation Facility
Senior Planner Hancey provided an update on the Zoning Text Amendment. Community Development Director Morgan Brim entered at11am.
Senior Planner Hancey outlined what is included in this site. He mentioned the request to extend the parking spaces from’ to’.
Senior Planner Hancey asked about the isle width. Deputy Fire Marshall Valley said that it complies with fire and city code.
Director Ghandour asked about the location of the fencing. He brought up a concern for parking. Senior Planner Hancey provided context and noted that it is privately owned. Discussion ensued about ownership and fencing.
Bronson Tatton with Flagborough commented that he understands his intention. Discussion ensued.
Director Brim noted that signage would be helpful. Senior Planner Hancey added that they could shift the entrance to discourage street parking. Director Ghandour discussed his recommendation.
City Manager Ellis asked if they had any signage planned. Mr. Tatton noted wayfinding signs. Director Ghandour asked if they needed a sign permit. Senior Planner Hancey noted that it is not needed currently, but that they could later.
Director Brim noted that keeping the primary parking in the lot is preferred. Mr. Tatton noted adjustments and iterations.
Director Brim asked if they had a fencing plan. Mr. Tatton noted that its shown where it is located. Director Brim requested a fencing plan for planning commission. Chair Vawdrey asked about the courts included. He expressed interest. Director Brim asked about rotating the court. Mr. Tatton noted that the space is tight.
Director Brim noted that he would appreciate another court. Mr. Tatton noted that there is more basketball courts planned.
Director Vawdrey added that there will be trees as well to help with sun coverage. Mr. Tatton noted the glass wall around the padel courts.
Director Brim asked if there was a lighting plan. He noted having the lights turned off at a certain time. City Manager Ellis added to consider setting hours of operation. Director Brim agreed.
Director Ghandour asked when they expect to see it back. He would like to see the signage. Discussion ensued about scheduling. Director Brim asked if Director Ghandour would feel comfortable if Mr. Tatton scheduled a meeting with staff to review lighting and signage. Director Ghandour noted yes. 4.
PLAN25-0013 Site Plan Amendment - Greenline BlockRetail Village
Senior Planner Hancey introduced this application. He discussed what would be included. Mr. Tatton added more context on the Greenline.
Director Brim discussed the impact of the retail village. He made a suggestion for angled parking. Mr. Tatton said they can not modify the streets. He noted that he can include offsite parking as buildout progresses. Discussion ensued.
Director Brim noted he does not feel comfortable bringing this without parking more addressed. Director Ghandour added logistics for angled parking.
Deputy Fire Marshall Valley noted a concern for fire access. Mr. Tatton noted that they could include designated emergency vehicle parking. He added that they could include a drop off spot. Director Ghandour requested to see a reanalysis of the parking requirements.
Bj Laterveer with Flagborough noted the surrounding sites and discussed fire access. Discussion ensued.
Deputy Fire Marshall Valley discouraged angle parking. Director Brim provided next steps requests. Deputy Fire Marshall Valley noted that he is not sure when that meeting needs to happen. 5.
PLAN25-0009 Site Plan Amendment Application - Utah City Blockc
Senior Planner Hancey introduced the application. Mr. Laterveer highlighted recent changes and briefed the site.
Director Ghandour asked for clarification on the car travel. He asked about ADA access. Discussion ensued about the orientation and the arcade.
Director Brim clarified the status in city process. Senior Planner Hancey briefed the site and edits made. Director Brim asked how many floors there would be. Discussion ensued about the status.
Engineer James asked about the storm drain. Mr. Laterveer gave context on the footings. 6.
PLAN25-0014 Site Plan Amendment Application - Utah City Wellness Center and Resort Pool
Senior Planner Hancey introduced the site and highlighted the changes requested. Chair Vawdrey asked about the ownership of the facility. Mr. Tatton discussed the ownership.
Director Brim noted that it would be a good benefit for the community. Mr. Tatton noted interest in providing swim lessons.
Director Brim asked about the splash pad. Mr. Tatton discussed the splash pad. Director Brim asked if they would be operating the splash pad.
Director Ghandour noted that the health department will need to get involved. He also added the need for water quality samples. Senior Planner Hancey asked about the shading. Mr. Tatton discussed the shade in the site. Director Brim asked if they had those details.
Mr. Laterveer noted that they have a plan where the shading is included. Discussion ensued. Mr. Laterveer also discussed changes to the pool shapes.
Deputy Fire Marshall Valley requested the quantities of chlorine storage location and operational permit inspections. Mr. Laterveer discussed the storage.
Director Ghandour noted that the city will need to included in chemical usage understandings. Discussion about inspections ensued.
Chair Vawdrey asked if there was fencing. Mr. Laterveer noted that everything is fenced. Director Brim asked for the fencing design. 7.
PLAN24-0116 Site Plan Application - Vineyard Gateway Phase
Senior Planner Hancey introduced Planner Stevens. Planner Stevens introduced the site and provided locational context. Director Brim clarified the materials and the developer.
Director Brim asked to see the landscaping plan. Director Brim asked about utilities and other requirements. Planner Stevens noted it is compliant with city code.
Engineer James discussed utility locations. Director Brim asked about access. Engineer James noted that there is no access easement.
Ted Didas with Hales Engineering noted that there is no separation of property.
Steve Pruitt, the applicant, noted that it is all one parcel. Director Brim requested information on the businesses. Mr. Pruitt noted that it will be similar to phase
Deputy Fire Marshall Valley asked if this building is going to be sprinkled. He discussed distance to a hydrant. Engineer James noted hydrant locations nearby. Mr. Pruitt added another location.
Engineer James asked about the grease trap. Mr. Pruitt noted that they will have one for the building. Engineer James noted that the parking stalls needs to be longer stalls. Mr. Pruitt asked for clarification.
Director Ghandour discussed the parking.
Adjournment Chair Vawdrey adjourned the meeting at:17am. MINUTES CERTIFIED COMPLETE ON: Augusth,25 CERTIFIED (NOTICED) BY: Madison Reed, Planning Technician

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	OK, it is May 15th.	00:00:35
	Umm, about 9:02 AM.	00:00:38
	And like to call to order this.	00:00:42
	Development review committee meeting.	00:00:45
	Umm.	00:00:48
	Does anyone have an inspirational thought they wanna share?	00:00:50
	Otherwise.	00:00:54
	The same would you be willing to lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance?	00:00:55
	Oh, we don't do that. OK, OK, sorry.	00:00:59
	OK.	00:01:02
	This thing, you got your mic like you're gonna say something.	00:01:03
	OK.	00:01:16
	Umm.	00:01:17
	Yeah, it might not be appropriate for the.	00:01:19
	Sure.	00:01:20
	OK, well, we will. We will move on.	00:01:24
	UH staff and Commission reports.	00:01:26
	Is there any?	00:01:30
	Staff of Commission reports.	00:01:31
	OK.	00:01:34
	We'll go on to.	00:01:35
	The consent item 3.1.	00:01:37
	May I have a motion to?	00:01:41
	Approve that.	00:01:43
	I'll motion to approve.	00:01:49
	Umm, development review committee maybe minutes?	00:01:51
	OK, first by random.	00:01:55
	Alright, hold on a second.	00:01:57
	Second by Chris.	00:01:58
	All in favor.	00:01:59
	All right, all right.	00:02:00
	K onto business items.	00:02:06
	4.1.	00:02:11
	The final plan application for the Orem UT YSA and spring water.	00:02:13
	Flat OK.	00:02:18
	Yeah, I can uh, help take over this one uh, so right now the the.	00:02:20
	The church owns a partial umm off of.	00:02:23
	I forgot the truck style.	00:02:27
	Umm, they're looking at building 2 chapels there, and so they're splitting the the particle into two lots so they can, uh, build	00:02:29
	these.	00:02:31
	These two churches.	00:02:34
	So here is.	00:02:36
	The Platt.	00:02:37
	Hopefully most of you have seen it.	00:02:39
	Umm.	00:02:41
	I'm gonna let Patrick maybe talk about it a little bit more.	00:02:42
	I think he has more insight than I do.	00:02:45
	Umm, but uh, we, we did have some issues on this in, in the past.	00:02:47
	And and Anthony, our our planner has been working with them.	00:02:50
	Believe we've gotten all those resolved and.	00:02:53
	We we feel confident moving forward with it.	00:02:56
	Umm, yeah, I I don't have a whole lot on here.	00:02:59
	We did work with the applicant.	00:03:02
	Umm, to.	00:03:04
	Get 1 foot of right away.	00:03:06
	Umm, we went we.	00:03:09
	We went over a.	00:03:11
	Right away classification that we thought was appropriate for this.	00:03:12
	This road and we determined that we needed one more foot.	00:03:15
	So on on this plat it shows.	00:03:18
	It's kind of hard to see because it is just one foot, but.	00:03:21
	Umm, they're showing that one foot dedication for the right away.	00:03:24
	Umm. Plus.	00:03:28
	We have we, we have a 10 foot.	00:03:29
	Poe umm around the perimeter of the lot.	00:03:32
	Umm, this one looks a little weird on the on the east side here just to get.	00:03:36
	Because there's AU dot.	00:03:39
	Hello, easement for Geneva Rd. as well.	00:03:40
	Umm, so.	00:03:44
	We're we're just doing the 10 foot Poe.	00:03:45
	To the to the West of that slope easement.	00:03:48
	Umm, as.	00:03:51
	View that reserves please.	00:03:52
	Smoke easements for uh, future growth or?	00:03:54
	Umm, maintaining the.	00:03:57
	Umm.	00:04:00
	There were there were several comments that.	00:04:02
	That, uh, we went through, uh, with this.	00:04:04
	Flat but.	00:04:07
	It appears that the applicant has made all the corrections on it.	00:04:09
	Umm, the addresses are on there.	00:04:13
	Yeah, I mean.	00:04:16
	Pretty much it.	00:04:19
	OK. Any questions from the committee?	00:04:22
	Yeah, so I got a question on there just to confirm that, umm.	00:04:24
	Additional book that was umm.	00:04:28
	In regards to the 575 S St.	00:04:31
	Umm, right away.	00:04:33
	Uh, that's that's gonna allow for a umm.	00:04:34
	Seems like a 67 foot cross section, uh, St. uh, like a street cross section to include uh sidewalks on both sides.	00:04:37
	Yes, I.	00:04:46
	Let me confirm the right away with but.	00:04:47
	We. That is why we.	00:04:50
	67 Oh yes, that's right there. Yep.	00:04:52
	Umm, so yeah.	00:04:56
	That's why we uh.	00:04:58
	We did it so that we could have.	00:05:00
	Uh, 67 foot cross section? Well, I think the existing is 67.	00:05:02
	But then.	00:05:09
	That allows us to have a full sidewalk.	00:05:10
	And part stripping.	00:05:13
	OK.	00:05:16
	OK, any other?	00:05:18
	Questions.	00:05:21
	OK.	00:05:24
	Umm, and then this would require a vote for approval.	00:05:26
	OK.	00:05:30
	So do you do I do a motion to approve and then take roll call?	00:05:31
	Yeah, yeah, promotion.	00:05:35
	Yep. So do I have a motion?	00:05:36
	To approve the final plat application.	00:05:40
	Item 4.1.	00:05:43
	I'll motion to approve.	00:05:47
	Umm, do I need to say the whole point? OK, what 1?	00:05:48
	I have a motion to approve UH 4.1.	00:05:53
	First by Brandon.	00:05:56
	A second second by Chris.	00:05:58
	All in favor.	00:06:01
	Oh, and we do have airs on.	00:06:04
	So if he votes, I think we'll get.	00:06:06
	OK. And then do I do all in favor?	00:06:09
	It doesn't matter.	00:06:12
	Bye.	00:06:13
	Alright, perfect. Thanks.	00:06:15
	And then do we need to do a roll call?	00:06:18
	On top of that, OK.	00:06:19
	OK, so I still learned this.	00:06:21
	Yeah, umm, work session.	00:06:23
	5.1 The site plan with conditional use permit.	00:06:26
	OK, yeah, this, uh, we actually have Rachel online our our planner.	00:06:31
	Las Vegas and she's gonna.	00:06:35
	I'm walking through the the the site plan. So this is for the church buildings that will be.	00:06:36
	Sitting on top of that file that was just approved.	00:06:40
	So.	00:06:42
	Rachel, can you see my screen alright?	00:06:43
	Yes, I can. I make sure my Oh yeah, that works great.	00:06:46
	Let me.	00:06:50
	OK. All right, you take over.	00:06:51
	So this.	00:06:56
	Person is coming to the West.	00:06:57
	What?	00:07:03
	This is the site plan to the West. It's a slightly bigger building, a ten ward.	00:07:07
	Meeting house this Thursday.	00:07:12
	And they provided excess.	00:07:15
	In parking and.	00:07:18
	Landscaping.	00:07:20
	One of the.	00:07:23
	State concerns from last time.	00:07:24
	Was that there was gonna be no park strip?	00:07:26
	But they came back and provided us with a part strip.	00:07:30
	And St. trees.	00:07:33
	And then?	00:07:35
	Then the church to the east.	00:07:38
	For showing the landscaping and part strip going around that corner.	00:07:42
	That one also has.	00:07:47
	Sufficient parking.	00:07:48
	And landscaping.	00:07:50
	And then?	00:07:54
	I was gonna show you guys.	00:07:58
	And elevation.	00:08:00
	This one.	00:08:01
	There's no South.	00:08:08
	Correct North.	00:08:11
	Umm, were there any?	00:08:14
	Questions from the DSC about.	00:08:21
	Either of these applications.	00:08:25
	Doesn't like any questions.	00:08:32
	OK.	00:08:40
	And if there's no questions, they're gonna be sending.	00:08:41
	Both of these applications to your Planning Commission for approval next week.	00:08:44
	Sounds great.	00:08:49
	Thanks so much.	00:08:50
	Do you want to add anything? There's no question that I don't. OK, Yeah, yeah.	00:08:52
	Thank you very much and thank you very much.	00:08:58
	OK.	00:09:02
	Fantastic.	00:09:04
	So if we go ahead and move on to 5.2.	00:09:05
	We don't need to prove anything for that, correct?	00:09:09
	Correct. Yeah, these work sessions is just to kind of get final comments before we bring these site plans.	00:09:11
	To, uh, Planning Commission.	00:09:15
	Great. Umm.	00:09:17
	Yeah.	00:09:18
	OK.	00:09:20
	So move on to.	00:09:20
	Uh, work session item 5.2, the site plan with conditional use.	00:09:22
	Uh, application for spring water church meeting house?	00:09:27
	I think.	00:09:31
	Was that Rachel, did you review that as well, the site on that?	00:09:33
	Sorry, yes, I should report. Yeah, I remember both of them. OK that.	00:09:39
	We're just on both searches that are going on that one, two birds at some time, yeah.	00:09:43
	OK.	00:09:47
	Great. We'll move on then to.	00:09:48
	I don't. Oh yeah.	00:09:51
	Umm, last time he asked about a traffic service that included more than just the.	00:09:53
	The one day.	00:09:58
	Is that relevant in this year?	00:10:00
	Situation yes, uh, we received an updated traffic study that showed kind of a.	00:10:02
	Well, it.	00:10:07
	He had talked about inquiry other days.	00:10:08
	It just reiterated that.	00:10:11
	Uh, Sunday was.	00:10:13
	The worst days by far.	00:10:14
	Thanks for that one.	00:10:17
	OK, so item 5.3.	00:10:20
	The site plan application for.	00:10:23
	The commercial outdoor recreation facility.	00:10:25
	Like Yep, I'll be handling this one we do have.	00:10:29
	Bronson and BJ with the applicant here as well.	00:10:32
	Umm, I can give a brief overview. So last night the text amendment was approved by City Council to allow for outdoor recreation	00:10:35
	use.	00:10:38
	Umm, in the the downtown area.	00:10:42
	Umm. And so with that they submitted an application.	00:10:45
	For umm.	00:10:48
	Alright, let me.	00:10:50
	What's the?	00:10:52
	First time, so I have like a million applications from them right now so.	00:10:54
	2:45.	00:11:01
	Because I think it should be.	00:11:02
	The Racquet Club.	00:11:06
	OK.	00:11:09
	2 pages above that.	00:11:10
	Right here. There we go. I was looking for color renderings. There we go.	00:11:12
	Perfect.	00:11:16
	Umm, so.	00:11:17
	OK.	00:11:19
	OK.	00:11:19
	So thi this is the site board and that that has been committed. As you can see they have 6 Fidel corps.	00:11:20
	Umm, they have.	00:11:25
	UH-6.	00:11:27
	Sycamore courts, 2 tennis courts and one basketball court.	00:11:28
	Kind of Brian's dream here, you know?	00:11:32
	So the the lot of.	00:11:35
	Itself is is this northern half of the grocery store lot?	00:11:37
	I mean, we'll have a separate parking lot over here.	00:11:40
	Umm, and it will be sent off in a way and and signed off so that people are parking at the grocery store and and going to the	00:11:42
	Sports Complex. I believe the entrance is, is over in this corner.	00:11:47
	Umm, yeah.	00:11:51
	There, there are going to be these small commer, we call them flexible commercial modules on site that will offer umm.	00:11:53
	I think bathrooms, concessions.	00:11:59
	The umm like the ticket?	00:12:01
	Answering or whatever.	00:12:04
	You wanna call it?	00:12:06
	Umm.	00:12:07
	I thought I had pictures of those, maybe I don't.	00:12:09
	Umm.	00:12:12
	But yeah, from from our end of things that they were looking pretty adequate on parking that we did note that.	00:12:14
	Uh, they, they are over actually on parking, but also these stalls here in the middle are all measured at AT&T.	00:12:19
	Right. And so we did request.	00:12:26
	That they umm ex.	00:12:27
	Send those to the 20 feet and that that might adjust some of the parking numbers but with them already being over by.	00:12:29
	28 stalls we.	00:12:35
	Too concerned on that.	00:12:36
	Umm.	00:12:38
	The cash? Sorry, what? What's the the aisle with on those?	00:12:40
	See, I would I believe it's 24 here. OK. Is that is that good on spot with like fire access or do we need it for that?	00:12:43
	Yeah, no, not on.	00:12:51
	Not on that course.	00:12:52
	No, that's fine. OK.	00:12:54
	Yeah, it was stopping over 30 feet tall.	00:12:56
	Oh, we're next, OK.	00:12:59
	I just asked because we we ran into that before and we didn't check and then we.	00:13:01
	Yeah, I can quickly.	00:13:04
	We can go to 20 and then as long as there's modeling.	00:13:06
	And usually it's the same with the dump truck. So as long as.	00:13:09
	And you're good.	00:13:11
	So when you said that's sent off?	00:13:13
	That's, I mean it's **** * along the street of UMM along the north side.	00:13:16
	Is that correct?	00:13:20
	Yeah, yeah. This, this entire like complex. Is there any California, is there any kind of case?	00:13:21
	I'm on the north side.	00:13:25
	Along the north side, yeah, because again, that's because it's 10th off as many people just decide to park there.	00:13:26
	Like you're saying like park on the street, maybe a street?	00:13:33
	Yeah, and, or even a parking spot that might be designated for like the grocery store. You know what? I'd rather just replace the	00:13:36
	call. Yeah. I mean, technically I, I that would be up to enforcement on their end and private property. And then somebody could	00:13:42
	park here and walk all the way around to the entry. Yeah, that's what this is, a private park.	00:13:47
	Yeah, this is one of the per percent private. There will be like an entry fee.	00:13:53
	Yeah, this is not for for city programming necessarily. OK, so LinkedIn enforcement along the streets to the.	00:13:57
	I mean the part of the the.	00:14:04
	I mean the par so the parking stalls along the street side is.	00:14:06
	All private as well.	00:14:09
	Uh, what street are you talking about? The north side?	00:14:11
	Yeah, those, those are public.	00:14:15
	So that's why I'm guessing that's kind of going back to the same question I just asked before is.	00:14:16
	You know whether you can, whether it be gates along the north side.	00:14:20
	Uh, for people to access.	00:14:23
	To access the the.	00:14:25
	Private amenities on the South side and then the public amenities on the north. So I I believe that only the the big wall ports of	00:14:27
	our fence in the parking lot would not be fenced in.	00:14:31
	And, and some people could we, we could look at doing some kind of on the street that says, you know.	00:14:35
	One hour parking or something like that to make people.	00:14:40
	You know, move their car just.	00:14:43
	If they want to park there to go but.	00:14:44
	Because there is adequate parking in the lot here.	00:14:47
	Umm. I I feel like that can be a pretty minor problem. Which is uh, which is the closest, uh.	00:14:50
	Just got to travel.	00:14:55
	Straight through the parking lot.	00:14:56
	Have you ever been to, uh, Sure. I mean, yeah, that people can park at Yeah. Have you ever been in Boston? Uh, Boston this year?	00:14:58
	Where everyone decides to participate. Yeah, I'm I'm open if you have.	00:15:06
	Creative solutions here. Well, I would like to see Craigslist proper presented by the actually.	00:15:09
	Hold on, I just.	00:15:16
	Right. So that, that's kind of one of the things where, uh, we just wanna make sure that that's.	00:15:17
	That's why I was being addressed as well.	00:15:22
	Because again, it's 100% private energy.	00:15:23
	If it's it was probably it was open to the public, then that would be a different store.	00:15:26
	But if it's that this is 100% private then that's a different store as well. I'm literally seeing people come out of the sun Cam	00:15:29
	place.	00:15:33
	Uh, nearby getting a car.	00:15:37
	Drive 30.	00:15:39
	Free park and then walk in the bus and so.	00:15:41
	Yeah.	00:15:48
	Yeah. I, I, I, I think the, the, you know, best thing that we can do is just find a chair that says.	00:15:51
	You know.	00:15:56
	Parking for for.	00:15:57
	Park visitors only.	00:15:58
	Going back to the same question, uh, uh, early things they've been asked before. I would like to have them provide a solution.	00:16:00
	No.	00:16:05
	Bronson, do you have any ideas?	00:16:06
	No, I mean I, I understand.	00:16:08
	You're talking to people.	00:16:13
	Because it's a it's a private amenity.	00:16:16
	You're talking about, you're talking about if this is a private park, private management, right? And then therefore private	00:16:20
	private businesses, private private property, private amenities.	00:16:24
	I should have parking that.	00:16:29
	Have been friends on the pub in the public.	00:16:30
	On the public stuff, right?	00:16:32
	I'm just. I'm just.	00:16:33
	Basic question like if I have a if I have a car lock.	00:16:35
	And then I decided to park my.	00:16:38
	My my private cars.	00:16:39
	Put my car lost.	00:16:41
	Into a neighborhood.	00:16:42
	How about the same press board?	00:16:44
	As an example.	00:16:45
	I mean, that would be me infringing easing, uh, public property for, uh, for the benefits of private benefits.	00:16:46
	I mean it's.	00:16:52
	That kind of principle we practice on that so.	00:16:53
	Again, for the public.	00:16:55
	If this is a public amenity open to the public, that's a totally different story.	00:16:57
	I guess you can't change that. Something really really quick.	00:17:00
	I, I totally get get what you're saying. We, uh, during.	00:17:03
	The, uh, rewrite of the zoning awareness, I think it was the 20.	00:17:06
	20 or 2021 that that's gonna happen.	00:17:09
	Umm, the City Council actually talked about this this very topic.	00:17:12
	Umm, and.	00:17:16
	Part of what they they wanted was.	00:17:17
	For the public realm.	00:17:20
	To help support the the private businesses. So the idea was like someone wants to park on the street.	00:17:21
	They could. They could go to a coffee shop.	00:17:26
	They they then walk and enjoy the promenade. So the idea was like you're changing southeast.	00:17:29
	A trip so I.	00:17:34
	So I I definitely hear what you're saying, but it Washington, it was an actual, real point. Yeah, well, umm, well, they built into	00:17:36
	the code that.	00:17:39
	On street parking could actually count.	00:17:44
	Towards the minimum.	00:17:46
	Parking requirement because they they were.	00:17:47
	Umm, so the idea was that it was like 1 system and so you could park once and then I guess going back to the same thing then the	00:17:50
	private, the parking lot, uh, to the South, which is.	00:17:55
	For the amenities that.	00:18:01
	Able to utilize for other businesses.	00:18:02
	And so forth. That's how that so that's how restricted you just people.	00:18:04
	Be providing this up.	00:18:07
	The other thing we would should be making sure the science is appropriately done where people can actually say, yeah, they can	00:18:09
	actually park in the area, that kind of thing. Because I would hate for something to happen like we have that, uh.	00:18:14
	Like for example, in the yard, there's one particular business there.	00:18:19
	They'll have a admit that.	00:18:22
	So it has an empty open to the public, but the way that everything.	00:18:23
	Uh.	00:18:26
	Got you.	00:18:28
	There's a perception on it.	00:18:29
	It's private and it's not being utilized by the public even though.	00:18:30
	That's what the that's the intention. Signage is a good idea. I mean it it would probably be good to have your primary.	00:18:33
	Parking for that use in that parking lot and so if there was some signage direction them.	00:18:38
	But also people do park on the street and that was sort of the intent park.	00:18:43
	Go grab some lunch. Go play some.	00:18:47
	Adele, I've heard called paddle dude.	00:18:50
	But.	00:18:58
	But, but I, I, I think, I think this thing is right. So I think having good, good signage so that like the primary.	00:19:00
	Parking occurs where where you want it, but if there is spillover, I give us anticipated in the in the planning above it.	00:19:06
	What what one other thing I I just thought of is.	00:19:13
	Is maybe it would be possible and this would require some work on your end, but you could shift the entrance.	00:19:16
	Further down.	00:19:20
	That's more central to the the site.	00:19:21
	That would discourage people from.	00:19:23
	Feeling like they can park right there.	00:19:25
	So.	00:19:27
	That's about all, takes a lot of time. Like so if you have a pub, if you have a street and then people think they can feel, they	00:19:29
	can feel they can park anywhere. Like for example, I know ETA has a problem with uh, people parking on street.	00:19:33
	Uh, as well. And then it comes down to like, what we don't know, we can do that.	00:19:38
	Typing or we or we didn't know we could do that and vice versa. So now and.	00:19:43
	Then they need to pick up issues.	00:19:46
	Across the board.	00:19:48
	And I just, I hate for that stuff, for failure.	00:19:49
	When we have to do.	00:19:52
	And get successful from the very beginning.	00:19:54
	Do you do you have any signage plan for the?	00:19:58
	Court system.	00:20:02
	Umm.	00:20:04
	Marks and Spencer.	00:20:05
	To go on the medicine.	00:20:07
	Around 2 year old family.	00:20:10
	Would the marketing science be required to go through a signage?	00:20:15
	Uh, permit that, uh, that would be a question for is there internal? Not, not necessarily, but if they're gonna be putting signs	00:20:18
	on the appropriate that, that are advertising it, then we'll have them go through building permit.	00:20:23
	That we'll review it at that stage.	00:20:28
	Bronze I I think this seems absolutely right, though it it it is kind of opposite. It would be nice to have kind of the primary	00:20:31
	users parking there.	00:20:34
	I It was anticipated at the beginning that we we do want people to park once.	00:20:38
	And hit a lot of uses. So they do. Park on the street, go there, grab pizza.	00:20:42
	Go get a, you know, a cup of coffee or ice cream. Like, that's cool.	00:20:45
	But if if we're able to try and manage it?	00:20:48
	At least like the the primary, umm, users like I, I think that's a good thing.	00:20:51
	He's right, the optics of so maybe it's like from the parking lot and.	00:20:56
	If if the entrance.	00:21:00
	I think getting cash mentioned that, but if we pull that down a little bit or?	00:21:01
	If it felt like there was more direct access from like the parking lot. And so I I think that that just reads.	00:21:05
	Maybe it takes a user one or two times to go. Oh I should be parked in there.	00:21:12
	Umm.	00:21:16
	In another.	00:21:27
	Really more tickled for it and.	00:21:28
	Trying to maximize the right.	00:21:32
	The opening should apply down.	00:21:34
	To to line up with kind of that.	00:21:36
	Third line down there.	00:21:39
	And I think that would be.	00:21:40
	Cool.	00:21:42
	DJ .2.	00:21:43
	That's great.	00:21:48
	Do you have, umm, a fancy plan? Obviously you know you guys are putting a lot into.	00:21:50
	The design of it.	00:21:55
	Umm, so.	00:21:57
	Umm is that? Was that part of the packet Cash do we have?	00:21:58
	We didn't. We show where lupus goes and cash is regulated.	00:22:01
	Just around the.	00:22:05
	Yeah.	00:22:07
	There is no testing.	00:22:09
	Sitting close with that occurs since the only north side of this, but that's probably the.	00:22:10
	So.	00:22:14
	Before going to, uh, Planning Commission, if we could have the the fancy plan, that's not the detail that they'll be approved.	00:22:15
	OK.	00:22:21
	Great, down to. That'd be wonderful.	00:22:24
	Umm, I have a question for you as well. So the.	00:22:26
	The two biggest?	00:22:30
	So those white ones.	00:22:31
	Is that tennis?	00:22:33
	And then fadell is the ones on the top.	00:22:35
	Pickle ball on the bottom and this is like the final.	00:22:37
	Plan.	00:22:40
	OK. Yeah, that's awesome.	00:22:42
	I I think that looks really cool. I mainly wanted to ask because.	00:22:45
	Uh, it looks like they're all NS facing as far as the tenants.	00:22:50
	Put on pickle ball at the basketball. Yeah, I remember you probably concerned about the basketball team. Is is that is that umm.	00:22:54
	Is there any way to?	00:22:59
	I know you're tight, but.	00:23:01
	Making that north-south is is is that a better alignment for for basketball?	00:23:03
	I mean NS would be the idea.	00:23:08
	Umm, their own project maybe I kind of a day where.	00:23:11
	That you shouldn't get programmed because of the light? Uh-huh.	00:23:14
	Right.	00:23:19
	Yeah, it's tough.	00:23:20
	You definitely take advantage of.	00:23:24
	Well if if if anything I'm thinking like this is going to get a ton of use.	00:23:28
	Umm, being only one core.	00:23:34
	It's like if.	00:23:37
	Squeeze in and not maybe not right there, but in the area.	00:23:38
	Like an another basketball court, I I could see that being overrun pretty quickly. We'll definitely have another quote.	00:23:40
	OK, Yeah.	00:23:51
	Probably the.	00:23:54
	Counting. Yeah, man.	00:23:56
	Maybe we go double there.	00:24:00
	I do do do a couple.	00:24:01
	OK.	00:24:03
	And it looks like you guys have?	00:24:05
	Trees.	00:24:06
	Plans to be on that.	00:24:08
	West side SO.	00:24:10
	Yeah, yeah, I think that would be a good barrier.	00:24:13
	MMM.	00:24:15
	Umm.	00:24:19
	It is one of those business.	00:24:22
	Oh so.	00:24:24
	Adults are.	00:24:27
	There's a like a glass wall download.	00:24:29
	And then the tenants will have its own.	00:24:31
	We don't really see as many parents all over.	00:24:33
	High risk of the ball.	00:24:43
	Umm, cash, is there a lighting or is there a lighting plan too? Because I, I think that's something that we, we should, we should	00:24:47
	look at.	00:24:50
	Yeah.	00:24:54
	Yeah, I've I've submitted a request for like an updated photometric and and landscaping plan from them.	00:24:56
	Can I say too with having a lot of residential kind of in the area, maybe having it turned off at 10:00 PM or something like that,	00:25:01
	I.	00:25:04
	Umm, you know, I I can see that being proved.	00:25:08
	Problematic you got that many units and then you have to bring some basketball rates in the night so if you had.	00:25:11
	Some control.	00:25:16
	There, umm.	00:25:17
	I don't know what what the appropriate time is, but it seems like 10 seems like.	00:25:18
	You know, but but I have having some control of it. So you're not having a lot of impact on people. Umm, in the event.	00:25:22
	Yeah, yeah.	00:25:33
	And and the recommendation is to.	00:25:38
	Considering establishing.	00:25:41
	Operation. Not necessarily.	00:25:44
	Thank you on that in this moment, right. Yeah, I, I would say I mean because it's it's you're gonna be here as a private	00:25:46
	development so.	00:25:49
	I, I, I, it's like it's anything if someone moves in and they and they know kind of what the quiet hours are, you know, if you	00:25:52
	have some of those.	00:25:56
	Standard policies in place then.	00:26:00
	As long as they know at the front end.	00:26:02
	But it would.	00:26:04
	Yeah, I get to see like rent an apartment or close.	00:26:06
	You're close to that and it's going on until midnight. You have the lights on and everything.	00:26:08
	Right. I think it's like the pickleball club.	00:26:13
	It's an interior, but people will play all night long if they can.	00:26:15
	Yeah, it's just springbill they they they keep their cords with.	00:26:19
	24 hours. I mean, there's houses right next to it. It's causing problems, yeah.	00:26:24
	MG product.	00:26:31
	5 or 6.	00:26:33
	Yeah.	00:26:34
	For that more Mm-hmm.	00:26:36
	OK.	00:26:39
	Kim, any other comments on this item?	00:26:42
	When we expect to see and umm.	00:26:48
	In the back, what were we expected to get back?	00:26:50
	Do you want do you want this back for DRC first with the item?	00:26:54
	To review the changes that were.	00:26:59
	Suggested about the. I mean I would like to see about uh.	00:27:01
	The science proposed signages that they would talk about and so.	00:27:04
	You know, I mean, I, I feel comfortable saying that the the Planning Commission with the updated signage.	00:27:08
	I don't.	00:27:13
	OK.	00:27:14
	When, When? Umm.	00:27:15
	Our because California well cash doesn't keep schedules out all the Planning Commission meetings so that they're not they're not	00:27:17
	in inundated.	00:27:20
	When, When were you I guess?	00:27:23
	Hoping to, to get them on. Yeah, we umm, may may have screwed up. Usually we have.	00:27:25
	Uh, do you actually the the day after Planning Commission, but.	00:27:30
	We have issues this month.	00:27:32
	Umm And so the next Planning Commission was the 21st and we felt comfortable doing this on the 21st with.	00:27:34
	But besides, that would be potentially the 4th. I won't be here on the 4th.	00:27:39
	Umm, and I don't know if you will, Morgan.	00:27:44
	So I don't know if Planning Commission will be held.	00:27:46
	Umm. And so that means it might be the 18th of.	00:27:48
	Of June.	00:27:51
	So this would get pushed back. So this is I'm sorry. So this is scheduled for my weekly.	00:27:52
	The 21st next week, next Wednesday.	00:27:56
	This thing would you feel comfortable if.	00:27:59
	Umm, Bronx and where to schedule a meeting?	00:28:01
	Just looks like you like planning and engineering to to to review lighting.	00:28:03
	That's fine.	00:28:08
	Well, that's fine.	00:28:08
	So forth. Yeah, but.	00:28:10
	That'll be fine too.	00:28:16
	I, I just say because we have a few big master plans that are going to hit planning, Planning Commission and it'd be nice not to	00:28:17
	have anything on one meeting.	00:28:20
	So if we could do that, then I mean, I'm OK having multiple, uh, items on Planning Commission meeting, I mean.	00:28:24
	Kind of they they get the.	00:28:29
	Dollar in their pay, right?	00:28:31
	But if you're OK with that, then what we could do?	00:28:35
	Something specific?	00:28:38
	Umm, yeah, yeah, I can work with prompt and I'm setting something up either before Planning Commission, you can figure that out,	00:28:39
	or we could do a conditional approval.	00:28:42
	That planning permission.	00:28:45
	We're not able to align schedules in the last two days.	00:28:47
	Yeah.	00:28:49
	So I need to get a motion for that there there there's no motion on more questions, just recommendation.	00:28:53
	OK, Yep.	00:29:00
	Great. Well, I guess then we'll move on to.	00:29:04
	5.4 The green line block 4.	00:29:06
	Hotel Village.	00:29:08
	Yeah, this is uh, another, uh, applica application for Brompton, Utah City.	00:29:10
	Umm uh, essentially the the Greenway was was approved as part of the promenade auto uh.	00:29:15
	Site plan, uh, in August.	00:29:21
	2023.	00:29:22
	Umm, and they wanted to come back and and update that site plan.	00:29:24
	To show.	00:29:27
	Umm, some additional retail usages here. So let me pull up the.	00:29:28
	You can kind of see on this.	00:29:33
	Showed you where the Greenway is.	00:29:34
	Umm, not applicable complexes on this corner, so.	00:29:37
	Just right.	00:29:39
	That, umm.	00:29:40
	Let me find the actual.	00:29:43
	Full site here.	00:29:45
	Mm-hmm.	00:29:49
	But essentially they're gonna be adding in 10 pop up.	00:29:51
	Restaurants when uh uh, retail spots once another.	00:29:55
	The flexible commercial modules.	00:29:58
	That that has been approved.	00:30:00
	And then there will be 1 larger uh restaurant located in the middle.	00:30:01
	There it is. So you can kind of see this is right in the center in the the previous I find that was approved.	00:30:07
	This was just.	00:30:12
	Kind of one large pavilion. I think even then the idea was that that pavilion would have a restaurant in it.	00:30:13
	But it was just kind of a more refined, uh, approach and.	00:30:18
	Umm, we, we, we like the idea.	00:30:21
	Is it will offer for more retail uses to come on deactivated earlier.	00:30:23
	Umm, and so you can kind of see the the change right here.	00:30:28
	Bronson I I don't know if there's anything else you want to add to to that.	00:30:33
	This is go take Florida build SPC systems.	00:30:47
	Mm-hmm.	00:30:49
	How much is next year?	00:30:51
	Umm, sorry.	00:30:53
	2.	00:30:55
	I know, umm, initially we kind of looked at it as.	00:30:58
	More of like a park amenity you're providing some, some, some.	00:31:02
	You know, amenities for people that are visiting the park.	00:31:05
	And I mean, I, I think this is great, but it does.	00:31:08
	It's starting to kind of.	00:31:11
	I guess transition more into like a small retail center.	00:31:13
	So parking.	00:31:16
	Umm, I, I and we, we have like part. So we were essentially in the past just like, well, we just applied like the parking	00:31:18
	requirements that a park would have and that would be like the Promenade St.	00:31:23
	Umm, I think.	00:31:28
	Umm, that's why we may wanna look at angled parking. I know that would require curb cuts and making some changes, but.	00:31:30
	When when you're putting potentially.	00:31:37
	How how many buildings did you have there? Was that 8?	00:31:39
	El 11.	00:31:42
	Yes, you're you're going to have some that are going to they're going to pull some. This is great. So I don't, I don't, it's not I	00:31:44
	I want this 100%, but I also don't want it to be the kind of thing where where like you guys didn't plan for parking.	00:31:49
	Is there? Could you look at doing an angle parking as opposed to parallel parking? I think you could put a lot more in there.	00:31:54
	Umm, and still kind of have the amenities of.	00:32:02
	Park you're not gonna necessarily like.	00:32:05
	You know you you're gonna lose.	00:32:07
	You know you're going basically from like A7.	00:32:10
	Cut to I think it's in the 16 for the depth of a.	00:32:12
	Of 1917.	00:32:17
	17.	00:32:18
	So, umm.	00:32:19
	Uh, you're, you're, you're 10 feet on each side. You're 20 feet.	00:32:20
	Umm, is is. How can we look at that?	00:32:25
	OK.	00:32:29
	To walk by the street, but I think while we were.	00:32:30
	Mm-hmm.	00:32:32
	We've oversized it.	00:32:36
	To convince, we will.	00:32:37
	When the paperwork goes away and.	00:32:39
	That we've been in place.	00:32:41
	Uh, we will replace that off site for you.	00:32:43
	Uh.	00:32:48
	You know.	00:32:54
	Information.	00:32:56
	Bye.	00:32:58
	Parking lot.	00:32:59
	What I don't want to have happen is a loose bite of what parking department would be for this.	00:33:02
	And then we we lose it when?	00:33:09
	Umm, I think the primary part of life is from The thing is probably going to be downstream. That's going to be OK.	00:33:13
	But once that she pills.	00:33:21
	There will be overdraft.	00:33:23
	Right.	00:33:26
	Actually I I think though it would it would.	00:33:32
	Be helpful for us to have it analyzed a little bit more before we go to Planning Commission.	00:33:35
	I say that because like, umm, recently I, I, I visited Cincinnati, Cash was there and they have these great barks.	00:33:39
	And a lot of the parts will have.	00:33:46
	Like umm, they'll have a place where you can get like.	00:33:47
	I, I don't know, like ice cream or they'll have like a shop that.	00:33:51
	But it's like the park shop. It's not, it's not like you're driving to the park to go to the shop. It's just it helps add to the	00:33:54
	ambiance of it.	00:33:57
	Whereas you have 11 businesses.	00:34:01
	Umm, that's actually located like I, I, I think that is gonna.	00:34:03
	In itself become a destination and so.	00:34:06
	Having.	00:34:10
	The parking analyze a a little bit more.	00:34:11
	And so like the oversized parking lot.	00:34:14
	If you could help.	00:34:16
	The Planning Commission understand that that can accommodate both uses.	00:34:17
	If there is like.	00:34:20
	A peak, it's just the peaks are offset or something like that that that helps.	00:34:22
	Umm, but.	00:34:26
	To be honest, I I don't feel.	00:34:27
	Comfortable bringing that to Planning Commission until we we can say.	00:34:29
	You know, umm, the parking code requires this.	00:34:32
	For the retail uses.	00:34:35
	And we have that figured out. I, I, I'd like to be able to hand them basically a parking plan for this. I, I think you appreciate	00:34:37
	what I'm saying. I.	00:34:40
	I just don't want this.	00:34:44
	Just started to blow up into something bigger. Umm.	00:34:45
	OK.	00:34:52
	OK, yeah. And I just want to.	00:34:54
	Just, uh, for my colleague on the left.	00:34:57
	Umm, that, uh.	00:34:59
	The depth of a parking stopper angle.	00:35:01
	OK, bye, bye.	00:35:03
	As a table going about.	00:35:04
	19 feet. You can probably go as min as minimal as 8, uh, 17 feet.	00:35:05
	Depending on the angle, but uh.	00:35:10
	Uh, we just gotta make sure that, umm.	00:35:13
	There's, uh, again, this is, you tell people don't drive, uh, compact cars very much.	00:35:15
	I must, uh, hesitate to mess up mental change, but uh.	00:35:20
	That would be my concern to fire access. This is a.	00:35:24
	And there it's an artery for.	00:35:28
	All of those other apartments and.	00:35:30
	I guess that would be the only thing I bring up in this situation and try and glean some of your knowledge. Umm is the double	00:35:33
	parking situation.	00:35:37
	Because people aren't just gonna come and park.	00:35:41
	They're gonna be dropping off kids. They're gonna be dropping off.	00:35:43
	You know.	00:35:47
	Family members while they go find the parking spot somewhere else and.	00:35:47
	You know any medical?	00:35:51
	To block 5, block 6, you know, I think.	00:35:53
	Delivery payments.	00:35:57
	Just how to?	00:35:59
	Is there any signage? Is there any?	00:36:00
	The thing that's worked in the past that you've seen?	00:36:02
	That with that narrow narrow Rd. with.	00:36:05
	That it it still allows for fire department access for emergency situations.	00:36:08
	Uh, I think the.	00:36:13
	And I'm not so much concerned with like.	00:36:21
	You know, being able to pull up and and park because I mean, well.	00:36:29
	We'll just take the street.	00:36:32
	You know what I mean and it'll just cause lots of problems but.	00:36:33
	Umm, it's.	00:36:37
	It's getting through that area if there's people like the public, the general public part.	00:36:38
	You know, Double Park trying to drop people off on both sides.	00:36:43
	Yeah.	00:36:46
	Yeah, that kind of a thing.	00:36:48
	Yeah, we, I think that's probably a good idea. We could.	00:36:50
	Yeah, I like that a lot. Mm-hmm.	00:36:54
	And why? Why am I close to like?	00:36:57
	Find a spot in between that and where the pickle ball is gonna be, because I can see the pickle ball be a spot where like, hey,	00:37:00
	drop your kids off. They're gonna go play basketball or pick ball or whatever, or they can.	00:37:05
	They can go to shops here.	00:37:09
	And, uh, I would like to see the, when you do the parking and account management says every analysis of the parking, uh.	00:37:12
	Requirements because.	00:37:18
	Not that far away that you do have another.	00:37:19
	Uh, public Parkish.	00:37:22
	But umm.	00:37:24
	Over by block 5.	00:37:26
	That's somewhat mistaken block.	00:37:27
	Or that, uh, I can't. I'm guessing that would be an alternate.	00:37:30
	Alternative of.	00:37:34
	People park, which kind of crushes into.	00:37:35
	Uh, to be, uh.	00:37:37
	Uh, selfish. It encroaches into the uh.	00:37:40
	Take your fingers center.	00:37:43
	Uh, location.	00:37:46
	And then with the plan, uh, plan programs is that.	00:37:47
	And, uh, kinda looked at over there.	00:37:51
	And would potentially happen to.	00:37:55
	To close down part.	00:37:56
	Parking UH St.	00:37:58
	Parking area for.	00:37:59
	Other programs that you know you may find yourself short.	00:38:00
	On your.	00:38:04
	Customer availability.	00:38:07
	I'll just say like I have to.	00:38:10
	Uh, with someone with.	00:38:12
	Yeah, I'm not. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's coming. 4 kids.	00:38:14
	Umm, but there's no parking. I'd rather go McDonald's. Go to McDonald's.	00:38:18
	Got you or whatever got you there is.	00:38:21
	I was just gonna get a hold.	00:38:23
	But I just wanna make sure that's what your analysis doesn't sell over.	00:38:25
	Into other areas.	00:38:29
	That is going to start then then start becoming down up there.	00:38:30
	On that so I really.	00:38:33
	They first talk to you. Really.	00:38:36
	Really think that's true?	00:38:38
	Bye.	00:38:39
	Everything, Sir.	00:38:40
	Think about parking.	00:38:46
	Every day.	00:38:48
	OK Umm, yeah, I was too important. I wanted to interject that on the village is.	00:38:50
	Those buildings are 250 feet.	00:38:55
	The parking load.	00:39:00
	Generated by those is.	00:39:01
	It's pretty limited and I think we have.	00:39:03
	More.	00:39:05
	Than what would be required around?	00:39:06
	The perimeter of the part.	00:39:08
	But I think the point is still valid, and we're still.	00:39:10
	You know, but then but like a lot of mixed-use developments, we're trying to get people out of their car.	00:39:13
	And stay in this park, stay in other areas and so.	00:39:18
	We intentionally want them to walk a little bit.	00:39:21
	To get there so.	00:39:23
	We are planning.	00:39:24
	Parking areas.	00:39:25
	Kind of adjacent to the park.	00:39:27
	And but we wanna provide all that.	00:39:28
	Obviously people don't like.	00:39:30
	With other parking, they're not coming back.	00:39:32
	So.	00:39:34
	Great point.	00:39:35
	Umm on the fire access one of the things.	00:39:36
	I know we talked a little bit about and I think.	00:39:39
	To me.	00:39:42
	Is the plan we should.	00:39:43
	Probably formalizes to.	00:39:45
	These are narrow streets when they're double loaded and so.	00:39:47
	We have.	00:39:52
	Good access.	00:39:52
	Particularly.	00:39:54
	Behind these boxes like.	00:39:56
	If yeah in the grid.	00:39:58
	So I think.	00:40:00
	To me, what I would propose is we should probably set a meeting out.	00:40:01
	With a master.	00:40:06
	Plan and talk about what those access points to different buildings are and.	00:40:07
	The way you get there.	00:40:11
	No matter what's going on in this intersection, you always know you can get there.	00:40:13
	So I would.	00:40:17
	I I definitely, I can appreciate the collateral. What you know what I mean?	00:40:19
	There's definitely great options for that. It's just once we've committed to 1 angle.	00:40:24
	With a 20 foot.	00:40:28
	I mean, you're trying to back up a.	00:40:30
	About 45 foot.	00:40:32
	Ladder truck.	00:40:33
	You know to to get to one of those collaterals.	00:40:35
	And by that time?	00:40:37
	10 more vehicles that pulled in behind you.	00:40:39
	We could totally understand it could cause some.	00:40:42
	Some major delays, you know, and I don't want that. Uh yeah, uh.	00:40:45
	Kind of. I don't want to see for uh.	00:40:49
	Right. And, uh.	00:40:51
	I mean.	00:40:52
	And, and I would totally respect Brandon's thing And, uh, I think I respected more because, uh, myself, I've, I've done Fire	00:40:53
	Rescue myself as well.	00:40:57
	And it.	00:41:01
	You know, put yourself in the shoes and then you'll actually appreciate.	00:41:02
	What ha, what that, what I'm looking I go through and so forth.	00:41:05
	It's not, it's not it's and it says it's like every second count.	00:41:08
	And that's really what we wanna make sure.	00:41:12
	The support that the Brandon and his team have is.	00:41:14
	Not to be, uh.	00:41:17
	Underestimate.	00:41:18
	I don't like the I like the idea of meeting and getting the crews involved in that meeting as well. Umm.	00:41:19
	You have to like. These are the best access points. If it's this address, this is your primary access point.	00:41:25
	So that they're not always just like, hey, here's my light, I'm gonna take a ride and then.	00:41:32
	Try and find it back in there.	00:41:36
	Umm, as far as the the angled parking.	00:41:38
	If it's a 20 foot Rd. I would really strongly discourage any.	00:41:43
	Angle parking, it sounds like it for anything that's in there already, that's kind of a non issue, but.	00:41:46
	Sure I do.	00:41:53
	Uh, we'd love to think that it's just gonna be Priuses and.	00:41:54
	Smart cars and that kind of stuff. But it's gonna be me with my big redneck.	00:41:57
	Diesel truck that sticks out four feet into the intersection.	00:42:02
	That causes a.	00:42:05
	If it was 26 feet, I I wouldn't have a problem at all, but that's a 20 foot mark. It's just.	00:42:07
	That, I mean, that's 20 feet.	00:42:13
	If they park on the curve.	00:42:14
	Yeah.	00:42:16
	A foot off occurred because they were in a hurry.	00:42:17
	Trying to pull into a.	00:42:19
	You know a small spot or something like that, but.	00:42:22
	So.	00:42:24
	I think we're in agreement on that.	00:42:25
	BJ and Bronson? I think so.	00:42:26
	Maybe moving forward on this.	00:42:29
	Umm, you have the minimum parking requirement in the code.	00:42:31
	So if you can, just.	00:42:34
	Take the the square footages show that you can meet that.	00:42:35
	And have that analyzed within the greater context.	00:42:39
	Of kind of the parts.	00:42:42
	Uses and.	00:42:43
	Umm, the businesses around it. So.	00:42:45
	I know there's a lot of shared parking.	00:42:47
	But just kind of understanding, uh, if these are built.	00:42:48
	Umm, people coming.	00:42:51
	To one of those 11 businesses are are.	00:42:53
	You know they're they're gonna be able to find parking that is accommodated with within that the.	00:42:55
	Periphery of it somewhere.	00:43:00
	Umm. And then secondly.	00:43:01
	Umm, what? What's that of something?	00:43:04
	With with the brand and his team.	00:43:06
	To talk more kind of the context like the the surrounding blocks, the fire access.	00:43:08
	I I believe that you, you guys did back in the day with Russ.	00:43:13
	Right, like a couple years ago you, you know, with them. But I think it's probably good to get like a good update.	00:43:16
	And since you have some of the infrastructure on site too, maybe meeting on site and just just.	00:43:21
	Being being able to talk specifically with what's built there.	00:43:26
	I think that that probably could help inform the conversation.	00:43:30
	And maybe we can.	00:43:34
	Uh, I'm not.	00:43:35
	I'm not sure if this level.	00:43:37
	You know when that meeting needs to happen.	00:43:38
	That'll probably be as we.	00:43:41
	Build out a little bit more and we get more.	00:43:42
	That kind of stuff I know we're getting ready to.	00:43:45
	To finish up the the permit final on five AB.	00:43:47
	Umm, yeah. So I mean, there's gonna be people in there here soon.	00:43:51
	But I think.	00:43:56
	That one, we're probably gonna be fine. Like they can access that from one of the main roads and there's not gonna be an issue,	00:43:57
	but maybe after.	00:44:00
	This part gets built out in that other.	00:44:03
	Parked next to it gets built out of town and.	00:44:05
	That way we're not.	00:44:08
	I'm not wasting your time.	00:44:09
	Thank you.	00:44:11
	OK, there's not any other.	00:44:17
	Questions or concerns from the committee move on to.	00:44:19
	Item 5.5.	00:44:23
	You touch any block.	00:44:25
	13C.	00:44:26
	Yeah, what we're doing.	00:44:28
	So yeah, this this is just a change to the block 13 C that was originally grouped in October 2024. So.	00:44:31
	I'll let, uh, looks like DJ kind of give an overview of of the site and the changes that are that are happening here.	00:44:39
	So overall the site umm.	00:44:46
	There's three main changes.	00:44:48
	Uh, on the southeast corner.	00:44:50
	We've we already had a, uh, outdoor seating area that had a canopy over.	00:44:53
	And now?	00:44:59
	That is, uh.	00:45:00
	We've pulled the building edge out.	00:45:01
	With where that edge of that seating area was originally.	00:45:03
	Uh, so.	00:45:07
	It's, uh, infringing in the right of way there.	00:45:09
	And so otherwise in that corner in cash, you would have the e-mail.	00:45:12
	Umm, basically.	00:45:16
	All the use is the same.	00:45:17
	Within the building we that corner right there is a two-story amenities, uh, space.	00:45:19
	Lots of glazing. You look in and you actually see amenity.	00:45:26
	Uh, area That's on the second floor.	00:45:29
	Step back.	00:45:32
	Umm, so.	00:45:33
	That area now does.	00:45:35
	Columnist in the shaded area.	00:45:36
	Or out of in the sidewalk.	00:45:38
	Uh, and we.	00:45:40
	Provided enough areas so there's ample.	00:45:41
	Pedestrian.	00:45:44
	Uh, way.	00:45:45
	Through there.	00:45:46
	And then on the West side.	00:45:48
	Side of the building.	00:45:49
	That building edge, umm.	00:45:53
	Has been pulled.	00:45:56
	And basically.	00:45:57
	We've provided.	00:45:59
	What I'll call.	00:46:01
	Wall columns and on the left side of the sidewalk there.	00:46:02
	Uh, they land.	00:46:06
	Uh, it's on the.	00:46:07
	Basically that bottom.	00:46:09
	Uh, wing of the building and the north wing of the building industry.	00:46:10
	Yeah.	00:46:14
	Yeah. So that's that edge, but.	00:46:15
	It's a completely open pedestrian.	00:46:17
	Uh, environment.	00:46:19
	So no cars, no cars will be on that road at all, on that one at all.	00:46:21
	No, no cars.	00:46:25
	So I can please shut off.	00:46:26
	No.	00:46:27
	Yeah, I'm at the road. Yes, Sir.	00:46:29
	Cars. Yeah, there's cars there. But I mean, I'm just looking. I mean, is that column right there?	00:46:31
	If I'm there, that's right outside the curb.	00:46:35
	No, that's the one.	00:46:38
	That's fine. OK, that's fine.	00:46:40
	And then I guess my other question just comes out.	00:46:42
	I'll, I'll also kind of be an expert, but I think I will be.	00:46:45
	Uh, but that is their access for ADA.	00:46:47
	To take that corner.	00:46:50
	Is your ADA access to make that corner? Absolutely.	00:46:51
	What's that about?	00:46:56
	At the SH. At the at the tire's point.	00:46:58
	What is the height of that?	00:47:01
	So yeah, it's in the time around.	00:47:04
	Yeah, OK.	00:47:10
	Correct, correct.	00:47:12
	I think we did that.	00:47:14
	A little bit better.	00:47:17
	You know, like I, I don't know, is this, is this like?	00:47:18
	So.	00:47:20
	Basically.	00:47:24
	At ground level, Sorry.	00:47:25
	The building is here.	00:47:27
	OK, that's the.	00:47:30
	Sidewalk passes through the building up above.	00:47:32
	From the year end.	00:47:35
	So wall column OK.	00:47:37
	So in our case, yeah, yeah. Oh, OK.	00:47:41
	You you, you have that in like a.	00:47:44
	Uh, an industry view or something that could help elevation line for better future?	00:47:47
	Could you put that in?	00:47:54
	How are you looking for that? I was just curious with the staff of the UMM.	00:47:55
	I believe that it's supposed to be an, uh, kind of agreement in place in regards to.	00:47:59
	Uh, utilizing uh.	00:48:03
	Of the.	00:48:05
	Right, because our case.	00:48:06
	Overhang over public spaces.	00:48:08
	You know what the agreement is that.	00:48:10
	Uh, the one that refers to in the plat.	00:48:14
	Mm-hmm.	00:48:16
	No.	00:48:17
	Uh, the in in the.	00:48:19
	Flat we added language, Jamie and.	00:48:21
	And Wade had agreed on.	00:48:24
	So that language is in the file that you guys approved.	00:48:26
	So 2 weeks ago.	00:48:29
	Right. And it it?	00:48:30
	From what it sounds like from Jamie, that was.	00:48:32
	The extent of what needed to be done.	00:48:35
	So cash, so with the language added.	00:48:40
	The residential uses overlapping the public realm? Or are are we good from a legal perspective?	00:48:43
	So I guess so.	00:48:53
	That's that's part of the reason why this is.	00:48:55
	Coming back in for site plan amendment.	00:48:56
	Because of these.	00:48:58
	We had to amend the plat.	00:49:00
	And now we're.	00:49:01
	Now we're bringing the building.	00:49:03
	To follow that.	00:49:04
	So may maybe before so, so, so we're going back to Planning Commission, Yeah, but this is so would this be the first time this	00:49:09
	billing has come? No, this this billing was approved I think October 2023.	00:49:14
	OK.	00:49:18
	OK.	00:49:20
	Umm, but.	00:49:20
	Yeah, you know, they they've updated the the parking.	00:49:21
	Plan that you've seen here.	00:49:24
	Because they are bringing additional units to the area.	00:49:26
	Umm, so they did increase the the number of available parking for the site.	00:49:29
	Umm, this is starting to.	00:49:33
	So.	00:49:36
	Right how how many floors are you? Is that are those 787 floors?	00:49:38
	On the right, the tower here, yeah. And then 5.	00:49:45
	Levels. Oh, cool. OK.	00:49:48
	Nice.	00:49:51
	And has the has the parts been recorded for this one? I'm not yet. We're working on that right now.	00:49:53
	What's the size of the spot?	00:49:58
	What's that with his *** again? Just.	00:50:00
	We're just finalizing the the legal language.	00:50:02
	And it'll be recorded. Oh, we're still your language.	00:50:05
	The legal language about the arcades and.	00:50:07
	So OK, you're finalizing it. So technically it's all been approved and we just need the Mylars.	00:50:09
	So you're not finalizing the legal language for you, just waiting for the mylar.	00:50:16
	Yeah, yeah. We're, we're in the process of getting it reported right now.	00:50:19
	I think there were some address changes that were still.	00:50:23
	Making them.	00:50:26
	There were a couple of conditions of approval, so this one goes towards the Planning Commission, so the plans are recorded.	00:50:27
	Well, we we can take it to Planning Commission and.	00:50:32
	You know they they can't give a building permit until the the five hyphen recorded.	00:50:35
	OK, any other?	00:50:49
	Questions or concerns from the committee?	00:50:51
	One one question that I would have.	00:50:54
	UMM is with the storm drain.	00:50:56
	So this this is a little bit different from what I.	00:51:00
	What I saw before.	00:51:02
	There's gonna be a storm drain pipe that's really close to those footings.	00:51:04
	Umm, so but.	00:51:08
	I, I, from my understanding, you guys are lowering the footing, so they'll be under that.	00:51:10
	So we're pressing and putting.	00:51:16
	Far deeper than we need to be.	00:51:18
	So that you they don't.	00:51:20
	Uh, share with you building.	00:51:22
	OK, is this the? Is this the billing is gonna have the blade sign?	00:51:25
	Oh, you're not gonna add a blade sign to this one?	00:51:29
	We haven't figured out.	00:51:33
	All these blade signs.	00:51:37
	That's like the name.	00:51:42
	Blade.	00:51:44
	OK, little Wesley Snipes.	00:51:48
	You know, reference there.	00:51:50
	Go to.	00:51:51
	Item 5.6 The Utah City Wellness Center and resort pool.	00:51:54
	Yeah, this is one thing. Another checkpoint.	00:51:59
	Umm, we will move through Reflect.	00:52:02
	My microphone was.	00:52:05
	Uh, December 2023 when this was originally proved it it pipeline.	00:52:06
	Umm, they're, they're coming back with.	00:52:10
	With some changes to the pool. No changes to use or the size or anything like that.	00:52:12
	Umm, they, they are gonna come in with more of a phased approach. You can kind of see I think in the.	00:52:15
	Diagram.	00:52:20
	So phase one is, is the kids school concession bathroom flash pad.	00:52:21
	Just overlooked Phase 2 will be the main pool, quiet spa and then.	00:52:25
	Later on they'll bring in the the spa building and restaurant here. Can you point out where the lazy river is at, Uh?	00:52:29
	Sorry about that.	00:52:37
	You know, I think.	00:52:42
	Probably scrapping City Hall and putting the.	00:52:44
	So.	00:52:51
	Yeah, we, we have no, no issues Like I said there there wasn't any changes of use of size or anything like that. So.	00:52:52
	Just just a change in the shape of pool and then the the kind of the overall design of the building.	00:52:58
	The change? So this is that restroom building with an overlook on it.	00:53:04
	In the concessions building here.	00:53:08
	Just a question on the Aquatic Center. So would that be privately owned?	00:53:10
	Meaning that.	00:53:14
	Would there be an option for like swimming lessons to be offered there?	00:53:15
	Yeah, we'll go ahead.	00:53:20
	Yeah, it will it.	00:53:22
	So we're building this, feeding into the city, and then we're releasing it back.	00:53:23
	Although the lease agreement.	00:53:27
	Uh, was approved that I don't know how long ago December 2023. And so since then we've been working on this, but.	00:53:29
	Umm, I think there would be something.	00:53:39
	Uh, uh, that was one of the changes from the last.	00:53:42
	Concept is this tool has flatly implemented now.	00:53:45
	Right on the along.	00:53:48
	Section, Yeah.	00:53:50
	How many lanes is there?	00:53:52
	Uh, client.	00:53:54
	Uh yeah, 3 or 4?	00:53:56
	Yeah. I mean, that seems like a good partnership with the city. I mean, I know you guys are gonna be leasing kinda.	00:53:58
	Operating, but I think working with.	00:54:03
	But Brian and that, that'd be a really awesome benefit.	00:54:05
	For our resident as a whole.	00:54:08
	That's a big ask that I've noticed in the community if they want.	00:54:10
	A place they can have swim lessons. That's a huge draw to go outside the city to other segments. I mean, right now Brian's taking	00:54:14
	them out to the lake.	00:54:17
	What luck is algae blown to let the kids flow a little bit on it? But I think, uh.	00:54:22
	Yeah. So those lanes, is that a 25?	00:54:29
	Meter distance 50m.	00:54:33
	That's OK. Yeah, they are like.	00:54:36
	OK, no worries on the splash pad, we're umm.	00:54:41
	We did get a couple of comments about the current splash pad.	00:54:45
	Last night or is is this?	00:54:48
	Mm-hmm. Have some wow factors. It's gonna, it's gonna blow our residents away.	00:54:50
	I mean, I can kinda walk you through what it is and I guess your own decision is that.	00:54:54
	I've got enough flow in it, but.	00:54:59
	Umm, the kind of Oval. There will be some structures in it that are spreading water from above.	00:55:01
	And that'll be some ground sprays in that Oval.	00:55:07
	Uh, and then the.	00:55:10
	I don't know what kind of shape that is, but the upper one.	00:55:12
	That one's got a main feature there is.	00:55:14
	A water tunnel.	00:55:17
	So it'll have like.	00:55:18
	Several streams in a line.	00:55:19
	Create an arc.	00:55:21
	Umm, that the kids can run through and then.	00:55:23
	Besides that, it's a lot of other ground spree.	00:55:25
	So does will you be operating the splash pad?	00:55:27
	OK, so that's not something like that's not gonna turn into like a public works.	00:55:31
	Kind kind of thing.	00:55:35
	Right. The plan is out of state. All the equipment is up.	00:55:36
	In the cool I I think that's that's really helpful for for the same crew. Oh yeah, again, I mean.	00:55:39
	Department. Uh.	00:55:49
	Excuse me, the health department obviously involved, that's something that we're going to be looking at with.	00:55:50
	We'll be happy to review during.	00:55:55
	Umm, building permit stages.	00:55:58
	Of course, I'm sure Chris Johnson enough.	00:55:59
	Unfortunately, uh, Patricia will be all, uh, we'll be on top of that and.	00:56:02
	Another aspect too.	00:56:06
	But uh, our quality samples will have to be taken care of. Uh, and then that's usually taken care of by the city. And then of	00:56:08
	course because of the discharges, especially with the chlorine.	00:56:12
	And so forth, so forth. So you know, I mean, fortunately the.	00:56:17
	Yeah, yeah, they are. They're day-to-day operations.	00:56:22
	Uh, with you? With them.	00:56:25
	Uh, developers.	00:56:26
	On under late, but this is.	00:56:28
	Especially specifically sensitive public land.	00:56:30
	Public property under lease, the city does hold ultimate responsibility for that, so we'll have to make sure that we put into it.	00:56:32
	I don't like the agreement at the city.	00:56:39
	Does retain the, uh, the right?	00:56:40
	Yeah, sure that those things are being done.	00:56:42
	And also has the right to take it over if uh, the future housing, especially for public health.	00:56:44
	Issue 11, quick question I had about the splash pad and maybe from the pool, could you maybe talk about?	00:56:49
	What you're doing provide shade. I know that that our part, you know, we've had to come back a few years later and have some chase	00:56:56
	sales to the area.	00:56:59
	So just kind of to address that that factor.	00:57:03
	Yeah, no, I mean.	00:57:07
	Yeah, how are you?	00:57:09
	So they're in in the park, there's two pavilions just.	00:57:10
	There's that one there.	00:57:13
	Better than that.	00:57:15
	Based on their going a little further South.	00:57:16
	Umm, in the green areas there's trees planned.	00:57:18
	Uh, specifically around the splash pad and then up in the.	00:57:22
	The resort pool area.	00:57:26
	It's kind of a.	00:57:27
	You know there's.	00:57:29
	The Fundares And then there's people that want to shave themselves. There's gonna be a mix.	00:57:30
	Uh, sunny areas and a mix of shaded areas with.	00:57:34
	Uh, like.	00:57:38
	Cabana style shade for umbrella shade.	00:57:39
	Umm, or appreciate?	00:57:43
	Is that is is that you have those details?	00:57:45
	Umm, that, that it's just, it's just one of the things that we're, we're gonna hear about. And so it would be nice to say maybe if	00:57:48
	we could align on, on the shade part, that's, that's gonna be 1 of the main things and there's not enough.	00:57:53
	Yeah, I, I.	00:57:59
	I don't know that it's in here. We have the same plan that shows.	00:58:00
	Cabanas.	00:58:04
	All the landscaping and OK.	00:58:06
	And I would say that's probably more people are gonna be more concerned about that the splash pad than than the pool could.	00:58:09
	When you are going to pull it is more of a sunny environment but and if the parents watching the kids at the.	00:58:14
	Flash pad that are wanting and this flash pad is no no entry fee right that's.	00:58:19
	So so you can park, walk, walk right into it.	00:58:24
	Umm, so that's gonna feel more like a public park. So that, that, that would be 1. I would definitely, umm, work with Brian. I	00:58:27
	think just strategically if you have some spots, Arkansas around it where there's, there's some shade sales because the trades are	00:58:32
	gonna take a little bit too.	00:58:36
	Umm, leap out and spread. So I think if we could day one have a few shade sales just kind of around that area.	00:58:41
	Umm, well, that'll help us out.	00:58:48
	And to clarify, the shade ideally in kind of the seating area is not necessarily in the splash pad.	00:58:50
	Like at Grove Park, we aren't really putting any.	00:58:56
	In the splash pad, it's.	00:58:59
	Just providing the shade to the.	00:59:01
	Parents basically that are.	00:59:02
	Watching the kids.	00:59:04
	So.	00:59:06
	For when the kids.	00:59:09
	Out of the front end of the shade period.	00:59:10
	Sure, that's good.	00:59:12
	Couple other quick things to point out about changes.	00:59:15
	Really about.	00:59:18
	Full shape.	00:59:19
	That was the the main thing.	00:59:20
	They were tied to them.	00:59:21
	Previous design.	00:59:23
	So we.	00:59:24
	We've changed those. We've also.	00:59:26
	Like around.	00:59:27
	That we've added.	00:59:29
	The lap lanes and also.	00:59:30
	Uh, that's set up for.	00:59:32
	I don't know if you guys have ever seen.	00:59:34
	Uh, uh, there's a water aerobics like our cardio class. I would call it aerobics cardio class on top of wraps.	00:59:35
	Mm-hmm. So it's set up to, uh, take that.	00:59:43
	Uh, which looks pretty cool.	00:59:45
	The phasing is, umm, not intended to be.	00:59:47
	A a very separated thing.	00:59:51
	It's really we wanna make sure that by Memorial Day next year.	00:59:53
	That we're opening.	00:59:57
	Pool, the bathroom building, that concession building, we wanna make sure it's open for the beginning of the summer.	00:59:59
	Next year.	01:00:04
	The rest of it will just continue construction.	01:00:06
	So the rest of it will be.	01:00:08
	Under construction at the same time.	01:00:11
	So that that's really the I do have a request. Umm, Springville does this really well.	01:00:13
	It's so fun.	01:00:18
	So like the UMM, like the floating cardio?	01:00:19
	Umm.	01:00:22
	I'm sure that part's fine, but what the best part is they have these areas like contact where you can, uh, when you're on the	01:00:23
	treadmill.	01:00:26
	So you're watching people?	01:00:29
	Fall off.	01:00:30
	Into the law it's.	01:00:31
	The best, I don't know. It's so entertaining. So if you could have like an observation.	01:00:32
	It really is funny because you have everyone on the treadmill.	01:00:38
	You're watching people like like Teeter Totter and they fall off.	01:00:41
	Everyone on the track like all the treadmills are laughing. So if you could, uh.	01:00:44
	Yeah, anyway, just a suggestion.	01:00:50
	I have one small request too. Umm.	01:00:52
	Can you?	01:00:54
	Send me just, uh, quantities of chlorine stored where they're at.	01:00:55
	Like location.	01:00:58
	And then where it's a privately owned there?	01:01:00
	Like an operational permit just.	01:01:02
	Once a year inspection type.	01:01:04
	So ultimately the chemicals, we'll do that.	01:01:06
	But it stored under that upper pool.	01:01:09
	So that's quite spa pool is elevated in half the second floor.	01:01:12
	To the building, so underneath.	01:01:16
	You know, basically being a.	01:01:18
	A concrete, yeah.	01:01:20
	I mean, he's right now.	01:01:21
	I don't know the quantum OK off the top of my head, yes.	01:01:24
	But but we'll get that for you, yeah, because.	01:01:27
	We're partners and.	01:01:30
	Sounds good statements.	01:01:31
	The city itself will have to put this on a uh, or.	01:01:33
	Uh, time to help me out here at the High, uh.	01:01:36
	That's one of the effects that we have to visit more often.	01:01:40
	Just to check for you now.	01:01:42
	May not even be high priority. There we go.	01:01:47
	Yeah, yeah.	01:01:51
	No, that's what we were just saying. We haven't.	01:01:54
	We've talked about both.	01:01:56
	Yeah, that's how the rec center is in catch on. It's.	01:01:59
	Fantastic, yeah.	01:02:01
	Yeah.	01:02:03
	Last time.	01:02:05
	Done a pool that had.	01:02:06
	Pouring in it, I mean.	01:02:07
	Not a yeah. So regardless, uh.	01:02:09
	The city will have to put this on a high priority insu uh, inspection list for us, uh, for the city to add the inspections more	01:02:12
	often.	01:02:15
	On this SO.	01:02:19
	What happened to what happened to the taxi? Uh, types of chemical?	01:02:21
	Uh, the quantities and etcetera. So, and then of course like that, you know, the procedures of how it's being done.	01:02:25
	And that's, that's not an city requirement, that's a safe requirement for us.	01:02:30
	More of a procedure on questionnaire.	01:02:34
	Is that?	01:02:35
	Type plan or do you wanna see that in the building? I'd be building permit?	01:02:37
	OK, Yeah.	01:02:40
	That's fine. Thank you.	01:02:41
	Yeah, that's, uh, that's, that's part of our MS-4.	01:02:42
	Uh, requirements.	01:02:45
	They're trying to get on on this too, maybe, umm.	01:02:46
	With the it's either Naseem or Brian's team if you guys just set up like an ongoing UMM inspection.	01:02:49
	Program or something like that.	01:02:57
	You know, I, I think that'd be helpful to whoever your staff is, can work with, uh, our staff.	01:02:58
	Will do.	01:03:06
	The last one piece of this one, the splash pad.	01:03:07
	The kids pool and the main pool.	01:03:11
	Are all tied to our district energy.	01:03:13
	Uh, system.	01:03:16
	So really they're intended just to kind of push into the shoulder sequence more.	01:03:17
	Keep them, you know they'll have one more.	01:03:22
	Nice.	01:03:24
	Of getting into the fall.	01:03:25
	So that's it. Almost.	01:03:27
	And then is there spending around the?	01:03:29
	This whole area so like for example.	01:03:33
	With the splash pad with that being more of a public option.	01:03:37
	But yeah, so you don't have to pay to go to the splash pad. You do have to pay to go to the other pool connected controls. Are you	01:03:41
	OK?	01:03:44
	Everything.	01:03:47
	Yeah, you have to go through this like.	01:03:49
	Yeah.	01:03:51
	Your darker boundary line is the fencing line, yeah.	01:03:52
	Same same thing with that I, I if we.	01:03:56
	Could get like a like the fencing design.	01:03:58
	Mm-hmm.	01:04:01
	That's that'd be great.	01:04:01
	Umm, OK. Any other questions or concerns from the committee?	01:04:06
	Stuff. OK.	01:04:12
	Let's go ahead and move on to the site plan application for.	01:04:15
	Item 5.7. Vineyard Gateway Phase 2B.	01:04:20
	OK, yeah, we do have Rachel online as well.	01:04:23
	For this, Rachel, are you wanting to share your screen?	01:04:26
	Yeah, I can see.	01:04:29
	OK. And then we also do have.	01:04:30
	Umm Ted and Steve with the applicant online as well to answer any questions.	01:04:33
	OK so this is a project of type 10 application for a multi tenant.	01:04:41
	Building just for general detail.	01:04:46
	It can be just north of the 20.	01:04:48
	And here's the site plan.	01:04:52
	They have.	01:04:54
	54 parking spaces.	01:04:56
	Which is over.	01:04:58
	I believe it was 34 that were required.	01:05:00
	And they have.	01:05:04
	2 by text.	01:05:05
	And there's a landscaping.	01:05:06
	The street trains are going to be ones that are existing. They are not going to be removing those, but they'll be adding.	01:05:11
	Extra shrubs on last week.	01:05:17
	Rachel. Rachel.	01:05:20
	Could could you show, could you show a a context map really quick? Umm or even just like.	01:05:23
	Umm, like the public base map? It's just to show exactly where the parcels are for the DRC.	01:05:28
	Perfect.	01:05:33
	Yes.	01:05:34
	So.	01:05:36
	Gonna be right here.	01:05:38
	For the spread started.	01:05:41
	OK.	01:05:42
	Thank you.	01:05:43
	Yep.	01:05:45
	Yeah. So in in between, let's see. I think it's just north of.	01:05:48
	Is that where we're at?	01:05:55
	Yes, it's gonna be who's sending.	01:05:58
	Right here.	01:06:00
	Because the site here's, uh, the tree you can see.	01:06:02
	Umm Ariana.	01:06:05
	OK.	01:06:07
	OK. Thank you.	01:06:09
	Yeah, we can sit.	01:06:12
	OK.	01:06:13
	OK. And.	01:06:15
	Here's the floor plan. There's going to be 7.	01:06:16
	Retail stores.	01:06:19
	And is the elevation.	01:06:24
	Uh, they, they have a Phase 1 of this project.	01:06:29
	Is is essentially.	01:06:32
	The same building as phase one.	01:06:35
	And then she goes back and.	01:06:38
	It's across from.	01:06:42
	The Vineyard.	01:06:43
	But where the community development is?	01:06:45
	So this is the.	01:06:57
	Of the process. OK, so it's it's.	01:06:59
	Gonna kinda match the same type of uh, material.	01:07:02
	Umm, and like architectural design as as.	01:07:05
	Yes, similar projects. And if they said it's going to be the same material, same floor plan.	01:07:08
	OK.	01:07:14
	Same height and everything.	01:07:15
	And this is the pro.	01:07:18
	Material or.	01:07:20
	Is this, uh, is this Steve, Steve Pruitt? Is, is he the developer on this one?	01:07:21
	Yes, and he's online too if you would have any questions for him.	01:07:26
	Go back to.	01:07:39
	Did you guys have any questions for me or was approved?	01:07:43
	Can you go to the landscaping plan?	01:07:48
	OK, say that again.	01:07:50
	Great. I, I I don't have any questions. I don't know if you guys do.	01:08:04
	OK.	01:08:07
	One of them and and meets just like it meets like the minimum parking requirements. You, you, you've looked at that, but umm,	01:08:11
	bicycle racks, that kind of stuff.	01:08:15
	Yeah, and so the the bicycle rack, umm.	01:08:19
	There's 2 bike racks.	01:08:24
	Hit me.	01:08:26
	It it needs all the minimum requirements with the zoom code.	01:08:27
	I know in the past we've had some, uh, utility issues. I think it was with like, like what Wendy's are, are we doing with like	01:08:31
	waters to or stormwater?	01:08:34
	Umm, those those elements.	01:08:38
	You know a water line was taken through the site with the previous phase.	01:08:40
	Umm, uh, there's a sewer line that runs up.	01:08:44
	Uh, behind.	01:08:48
	Where this building is located?	01:08:50
	That that was already installed on the previous page as well.	01:08:52
	OK, we have these stamps on top of those.	01:08:54
	Done. And there are easements overdoses.	01:08:57
	Love you too late as well.	01:08:59
	So we have a 10 foot.	01:09:01
	Easement over the water line.	01:09:03
	A 20 foot easement.	01:09:05
	Uh, that income is uh.	01:09:06
	The sewer line.	01:09:09
	Behind the building.	01:09:10
	Umm.	01:09:12
	That's mostly for the sewer, but it's a 20 foot unit for the sewer.	01:09:13
	10 foot over the water line.	01:09:17
	And then access from Geneva Rd. This is umm.	01:09:20
	I I think we, we talked a little bit about that context. Is this coming?	01:09:24
	From like the the Wendy's access or is that the charity? Because we have the easements, All right, umm, worked out. So there's not	01:09:28
	gonna be any issues.	01:09:32
	In the future if we if the proper sells.	01:09:37
	Umm, we There is no access.	01:09:40
	Over that shared access I I don't believe.	01:09:43
	Yeah, yeah. A few questions. I think that's something we.	01:09:46
	That would be something that we would want to ensure that yeah, recorded.	01:09:49
	Uh, regardless of, uh, regardless of the property owners.	01:09:52
	Yeah, they're separate parcels definitely what's gonna a shared access is that I.	01:09:56
	Steve, if you're if you're able to.	01:10:00
	To to kind of talk talked about umm.	01:10:02
	We, yeah, we definitely like a shared access to that.	01:10:05
	Yeah, well, that's the thing. That's a requirement.	01:10:16
	Sorry, See we.	01:10:18
	If you're if you're able to.	01:10:19
	To kind of speak to that we.	01:10:21
	Umm what? What are your thoughts?	01:10:23
	Team.com, I can reach out to him and talk to someone.	01:10:29
	Hmm. Well, yeah, I mean, it's it's gonna be a requirement because I mean it, it comes.	01:10:33
	But maybe not able to.	01:10:37
	It is my work. This is Ted Dieter.	01:10:39
	Yeah, engineering talking.	01:10:43
	Umm, just one thought there.	01:10:45
	Right now.	01:10:47
	The.	01:10:48
	Add and the future path in the north. They're all in a single lot.	01:10:50
	So I don't think there's any step.	01:10:54
	Exploration of property in this.	01:10:57
	All right, so at least not that I'm aware of.	01:10:58
	So I don't know who that share the event would be between.	01:11:01
	It would be what?	01:11:05
	Probably it'll be between.	01:11:06
	Like a property owners and like.	01:11:09
	Something I recorded as if the if the properties have are are over subdivide.	01:11:11
	That's fairly fine.	01:11:16
	OK, can you hear me now?	01:11:17
	Yeah, we can hear you.	01:11:20
	OK, awesome. Sorry, I don't know what's going on there. Umm, yeah. So I mean it, it had just.	01:11:22
	That it It's one.	01:11:26
	As one parcel.	01:11:27
	Umm, you know I.	01:11:29
	It's same ownership group, you know, I, I, I guess.	01:11:31
	Theoretically.	01:11:34
	You know, down the line.	01:11:35
	You know one of these were to be parceled off and sold, which is not.	01:11:36
	Current tension, but.	01:11:41
	If, if for some reason it was, then yeah, we would.	01:11:42
	We certainly have to kind of.	01:11:45
	Create some sort of.	01:11:46
	Access, you know, easement agreement at that juncture.	01:11:47
	Umm, but.	01:11:51
	Umm, and plan now.	01:11:51
	You know the the same in one.	01:11:54
	Grow that as the entirety of the size that.	01:11:56
	We're moving forward with what's not meaning one on that drag lane.	01:12:02
	Catch you so.	01:12:05
	OK.	01:12:08
	Umm, and then.	01:12:09
	We're, we're gonna, we're gonna get a bunch of questions from our communications team. Are you guys, do you have any, uh, pre	01:12:11
	leases or any businesses that you'd be able to, to, to share with us or active businesses like what, what type of information	01:12:15
	would you be able to provide us?	01:12:20
	Umm, honestly, it's the same, you know, we, we.	01:12:26
	We've gotten uh.	01:12:29
	Multiple merchants that reached out to us.	01:12:31
	You know, basically kind of.	01:12:33
	To the page one building we have out there.	01:12:35
	Umm, you know some.	01:12:37
	Some some cat uses some.	01:12:39
	Uh, fairchent usage umm.	01:12:42
	Uh, quick service.	01:12:45
	Uh, restaurant uses.	01:12:46
	Umm, so yeah, kind of, you know, the gamut that.	01:12:49
	You know expect from a multi tenant.	01:12:53
	You know, try like this I mean.	01:12:56
	Uh, well, someone said it reached out to us with interests have.	01:12:58
	You know said that.	01:13:01
	You know that you're interested in.	01:13:03
	And thean Geneva and.	01:13:05
	And with, uh, a lot of the genetic single use pad users that, that kind of French Geneva.	01:13:07
	Umm, this is one of the.	01:13:12
	These phosphorus Tennessee and a multi tenant, you know, building concept that would work for their concept.	01:13:14
	Umm, so yeah, it's, it's gonna be a similar tenant.	01:13:20
	You know, use mixed-use.	01:13:24
	Uh, that we have in.	01:13:28
	Phase one in terms of.	01:13:29
	Types of merchants and.	01:13:31
	Product so.	01:13:33
	Will this building be sprinkled?	01:13:37
	Umm, similar to the phase one?	01:13:39
	Building.	01:13:41
	Fire sprinkler system.	01:13:43
	Yes.	01:13:45
	OK.	01:13:46
	Umm, I'm trying to remember back. I tried to look it up.	01:13:47
	Umm, I think the Wendy's hydrant.	01:13:50
	Is.	01:13:52
	Further down, umm, just keep that in mind with the 100 foot.	01:13:54
	Distance from your FTC to the.	01:13:58
	To a hydrant.	01:14:01
	Got it.	01:14:04
	I believe they have a hydrant kind of on the north.	01:14:06
	East corner of the Windy.	01:14:09
	Area.	01:14:12
	And then there's another hydrant that.	01:14:12
	Kind of on the northeast of the.	01:14:15
	Lot well.	01:14:17
	Yeah, we do have another one on the North End, closer to O'Reilly.	01:14:20
	Well, actually.	01:14:23
	Umm, just a quick question.	01:14:25
	Is uh.	01:14:27
	The grease trap.	01:14:29
	That was installed. It cannot be used through the whole building, so there.	01:14:30
	Like multiple like restaurants would use it or is the idea of just having like a one restaurant use that one reset?	01:14:34
	Uh, no, we yeah, we would have.	01:14:44
	Similar to the UMM.	01:14:46
	Identical to phase one building which is a common interceptor.	01:14:47
	Umm. That way we're not having to, you know?	01:14:51
	Branch out you know and have.	01:14:54
	You know, multiple grease traps for one Belgium so.	01:14:57
	Umm, yes, the plan is to have one.	01:15:01
	Uh, common grace interceptor and service that you know, family that we do.	01:15:03
	Uh, building sales.	01:15:08
	OK.	01:15:10
	Another thing that was.	01:15:11
	Uh also brought up is uh in our in our code.	01:15:12
	Uh, it shows that.	01:15:16
	Parking stalls that button up against each other should be 20 foot in length.	01:15:17
	Uh, these ones are each.	01:15:22
	Team feet.	01:15:23
	So we were we were wondering if.	01:15:26
	That.	01:15:28
	That well, these these parks and.	01:15:29
	Stocks can be shifted up.	01:15:31
	Uh, to allow for 20 foot?	01:15:33
	The the section, the section of parking in the middle, those can stay.	01:15:37
	Day of 18.	01:15:41
	Because they there's that.	01:15:42
	Uh, sidewalk in between them?	01:15:45
	As long as that sidewalk is wide, still wide enough.	01:15:49
	Yeah, for ADA, so you're, yeah, you're allowed I think a 2 foot overlap and you still gotta meet, meet the uh.	01:15:52
	In between that.	01:15:59
	So.	01:16:00
	Yeah, good. That's good catch.	01:16:01
	Patrick.	01:16:02
	Uh, 20 foot wherever you don't have a a landscape overlap.	01:16:03
	So sorry, which section are you? Are you looking, which Bank of college are you looking at in regards to 20 feet versus 18? Oh,	01:16:10
	the ones in the middle.	01:16:13
	So all your, all the ones in the middle.	01:16:17
	Take a look, uh, review, review your parking stall desk.	01:16:20
	And then you should have uh.	01:16:23
	20 feet of uh parking if you like to have.	01:16:25
	Organism, Patrick says you have.	01:16:28
	A landscape strip that you can encroach. YTC cool if you don't.	01:16:31
	Make sure that you're not any closer into any kind of ADA pathways.	01:16:34
	OK, uh, yeah, we'll have to.	01:16:40
	Take a question what you have so.	01:16:41
	OK. Any questions or?	01:16:49
	Further concerns Recommendations from the committee.	01:16:52
	OK.	01:16:58
	Thanks Kash and Rachel, and.	01:16:59
	Others have put in a lot of work for this.	01:17:00
	There's nothing else.	01:17:03
	Then we'll go ahead and adjourn.	01:17:04

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	OK, it is May 15th.	00:00:35
	Umm, about 9:02 AM.	00:00:38
	And like to call to order this.	00:00:42
	Development review committee meeting.	00:00:45
	Umm.	00:00:48
	Does anyone have an inspirational thought they wanna share?	00:00:50
	Otherwise.	00:00:54
	The same would you be willing to lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance?	00:00:55
	Oh, we don't do that. OK, OK, sorry.	00:00:59
	OK.	00:01:02
	This thing, you got your mic like you're gonna say something.	00:01:03
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	Umm.	00:01:17
	Yeah, it might not be appropriate for the.	00:01:19
	Sure.	00:01:20
	OK, well, we will. We will move on.	00:01:24
	UH staff and Commission reports.	00:01:26
	Is there any?	00:01:30
	Staff of Commission reports.	00:01:31
	OK.	00:01:34
	We'll go on to.	00:01:35
	The consent item 3.1.	00:01:37
	May I have a motion to?	00:01:41
	Approve that.	00:01:43
	I'll motion to approve.	00:01:49
	Umm, development review committee maybe minutes?	00:01:51
	OK, first by random.	00:01:55
	Alright, hold on a second.	00:01:57
	Second by Chris.	00:01:58
	All in favor.	00:01:59
	All right, all right.	00:02:00
	K onto business items.	00:02:06
	4.1.	00:02:11
	The final plan application for the Orem UT YSA and spring water.	00:02:13
	Flat OK.	00:02:18
	Yeah, I can uh, help take over this one uh, so right now the the.	00:02:20
	The church owns a partial umm off of.	00:02:23
	I forgot the truck style.	00:02:27
	Umm, they're looking at building 2 chapels there, and so they're splitting the the particle into two lots so they can, uh, build	00:02:29
	these.	00:02:31
	These two churches.	00:02:34
	So here is.	00:02:36
	The Platt.	00:02:37
	Hopefully most of you have seen it.	00:02:39
	Umm.	00:02:41
	I'm gonna let Patrick maybe talk about it a little bit more.	00:02:42
	I think he has more insight than I do.	00:02:45
	Umm, but uh, we, we did have some issues on this in, in the past.	00:02:47
	And and Anthony, our our planner has been working with them.	00:02:50
	Believe we've gotten all those resolved and.	00:02:53
	We we feel confident moving forward with it.	00:02:56
	Umm, yeah, I I don't have a whole lot on here.	00:02:59
	We did work with the applicant.	00:03:02
	Umm, to.	00:03:04
	Get 1 foot of right away.	00:03:06
	Umm, we went we.	00:03:09
	We went over a.	00:03:11
	Right away classification that we thought was appropriate for this.	00:03:12
	This road and we determined that we needed one more foot.	00:03:15
	So on on this plat it shows.	00:03:18
	It's kind of hard to see because it is just one foot, but.	00:03:21
	Umm, they're showing that one foot dedication for the right away.	00:03:24
	Umm. Plus.	00:03:28
	We have we, we have a 10 foot.	00:03:29
	Poe umm around the perimeter of the lot.	00:03:32
	Umm, this one looks a little weird on the on the east side here just to get.	00:03:36
	Because there's AU dot.	00:03:39
	Hello, easement for Geneva Rd. as well.	00:03:40
	Umm, so.	00:03:44
	We're we're just doing the 10 foot Poe.	00:03:45
	To the to the West of that slope easement.	00:03:48
	Umm, as.	00:03:51
	View that reserves please.	00:03:52
	Smoke easements for uh, future growth or?	00:03:54
	Umm, maintaining the.	00:03:57
	Umm.	00:04:00
	There were there were several comments that.	00:04:02
	That, uh, we went through, uh, with this.	00:04:04
	Flat but.	00:04:07
	It appears that the applicant has made all the corrections on it.	00:04:09
	Umm, the addresses are on there.	00:04:13
	Yeah, I mean.	00:04:16
	Pretty much it.	00:04:19
	OK. Any questions from the committee?	00:04:22
	Yeah, so I got a question on there just to confirm that, umm.	00:04:24
	Additional book that was umm.	00:04:28
	In regards to the 575 S St.	00:04:31
	Umm, right away.	00:04:33
	Uh, that's that's gonna allow for a umm.	00:04:34
	Seems like a 67 foot cross section, uh, St. uh, like a street cross section to include uh sidewalks on both sides.	00:04:37
	Yes, I.	00:04:46
	Let me confirm the right away with but.	00:04:47
	We. That is why we.	00:04:50
	67 Oh yes, that's right there. Yep.	00:04:52
	Umm, so yeah.	00:04:56
	That's why we uh.	00:04:58
	We did it so that we could have.	00:05:00
	Uh, 67 foot cross section? Well, I think the existing is 67.	00:05:02
	But then.	00:05:09
	That allows us to have a full sidewalk.	00:05:10
	And part stripping.	00:05:13
	OK.	00:05:16
	OK, any other?	00:05:18
	Questions.	00:05:21
	OK.	00:05:24
	Umm, and then this would require a vote for approval.	00:05:26
	OK.	00:05:30
	So do you do I do a motion to approve and then take roll call?	00:05:31
	Yeah, yeah, promotion.	00:05:35
	Yep. So do I have a motion?	00:05:36
	To approve the final plat application.	00:05:40
	Item 4.1.	00:05:43
	I'll motion to approve.	00:05:47
	Umm, do I need to say the whole point? OK, what 1?	00:05:48
	I have a motion to approve UH 4.1.	00:05:53
	First by Brandon.	00:05:56
	A second second by Chris.	00:05:58
	All in favor.	00:06:01
	Oh, and we do have airs on.	00:06:04
	So if he votes, I think we'll get.	00:06:06
	OK. And then do I do all in favor?	00:06:09
	It doesn't matter.	00:06:12
	Bye.	00:06:13
	Alright, perfect. Thanks.	00:06:15
	And then do we need to do a roll call?	00:06:18
	On top of that, OK.	00:06:19
	OK, so I still learned this.	00:06:21
	Yeah, umm, work session.	00:06:23
	5.1 The site plan with conditional use permit.	00:06:26
	OK, yeah, this, uh, we actually have Rachel online our our planner.	00:06:31
	Las Vegas and she's gonna.	00:06:35
	I'm walking through the the the site plan. So this is for the church buildings that will be.	00:06:36
	Sitting on top of that file that was just approved.	00:06:40
	So.	00:06:42
	Rachel, can you see my screen alright?	00:06:43
	Yes, I can. I make sure my Oh yeah, that works great.	00:06:46
	Let me.	00:06:50
	OK. All right, you take over.	00:06:51
	So this.	00:06:56
	Person is coming to the West.	00:06:57
	What?	00:07:03
	This is the site plan to the West. It's a slightly bigger building, a ten ward.	00:07:07
	Meeting house this Thursday.	00:07:12
	And they provided excess.	00:07:15
	In parking and.	00:07:18
	Landscaping.	00:07:20
	One of the.	00:07:23
	State concerns from last time.	00:07:24
	Was that there was gonna be no park strip?	00:07:26
	But they came back and provided us with a part strip.	00:07:30
	And St. trees.	00:07:33
	And then?	00:07:35
	Then the church to the east.	00:07:38
	For showing the landscaping and part strip going around that corner.	00:07:42
	That one also has.	00:07:47
	Sufficient parking.	00:07:48
	And landscaping.	00:07:50
	And then?	00:07:54
	I was gonna show you guys.	00:07:58
	And elevation.	00:08:00
	This one.	00:08:01
	There's no South.	00:08:08
	Correct North.	00:08:11
	Umm, were there any?	00:08:14
	Questions from the DSC about.	00:08:21
	Either of these applications.	00:08:25
	Doesn't like any questions.	00:08:32
	OK.	00:08:40
	And if there's no questions, they're gonna be sending.	00:08:41
	Both of these applications to your Planning Commission for approval next week.	00:08:44
	Sounds great.	00:08:49
	Thanks so much.	00:08:50
	Do you want to add anything? There's no question that I don't. OK, Yeah, yeah.	00:08:52
	Thank you very much and thank you very much.	00:08:58
	OK.	00:09:02
	Fantastic.	00:09:04
	So if we go ahead and move on to 5.2.	00:09:05
	We don't need to prove anything for that, correct?	00:09:09
	Correct. Yeah, these work sessions is just to kind of get final comments before we bring these site plans.	00:09:11
	To, uh, Planning Commission.	00:09:15
	Great. Umm.	00:09:17
	Yeah.	00:09:18
	OK.	00:09:20
	So move on to.	00:09:20
	Uh, work session item 5.2, the site plan with conditional use.	00:09:22
	Uh, application for spring water church meeting house?	00:09:27
	I think.	00:09:31
	Was that Rachel, did you review that as well, the site on that?	00:09:33
	Sorry, yes, I should report. Yeah, I remember both of them. OK that.	00:09:39
	We're just on both searches that are going on that one, two birds at some time, yeah.	00:09:43
	OK.	00:09:47
	Great. We'll move on then to.	00:09:48
	I don't. Oh yeah.	00:09:51
	Umm, last time he asked about a traffic service that included more than just the.	00:09:53
	The one day.	00:09:58
	Is that relevant in this year?	00:10:00
	Situation yes, uh, we received an updated traffic study that showed kind of a.	00:10:02
	Well, it.	00:10:07
	He had talked about inquiry other days.	00:10:08
	It just reiterated that.	00:10:11
	Uh, Sunday was.	00:10:13
	The worst days by far.	00:10:14
	Thanks for that one.	00:10:17
	OK, so item 5.3.	00:10:20
	The site plan application for.	00:10:23
	The commercial outdoor recreation facility.	00:10:25
	Like Yep, I'll be handling this one we do have.	00:10:29
	Bronson and BJ with the applicant here as well.	00:10:32
	Umm, I can give a brief overview. So last night the text amendment was approved by City Council to allow for outdoor recreation	00:10:35
	use.	00:10:38
	Umm, in the the downtown area.	00:10:42
	Umm. And so with that they submitted an application.	00:10:45
	For umm.	00:10:48
	Alright, let me.	00:10:50
	What's the?	00:10:52
	First time, so I have like a million applications from them right now so.	00:10:54
	2:45.	00:11:01
	Because I think it should be.	00:11:02
	The Racquet Club.	00:11:06
	OK.	00:11:09
	2 pages above that.	00:11:10
	Right here. There we go. I was looking for color renderings. There we go.	00:11:12
	Perfect.	00:11:16
	Umm, so.	00:11:17
	OK.	00:11:19
	OK.	00:11:19
	So thi this is the site board and that that has been committed. As you can see they have 6 Fidel corps.	00:11:20
	Umm, they have.	00:11:25
	UH-6.	00:11:27
	Sycamore courts, 2 tennis courts and one basketball court.	00:11:28
	Kind of Brian's dream here, you know?	00:11:32
	So the the lot of.	00:11:35
	Itself is is this northern half of the grocery store lot?	00:11:37
	I mean, we'll have a separate parking lot over here.	00:11:40
	Umm, and it will be sent off in a way and and signed off so that people are parking at the grocery store and and going to the	00:11:42
	Sports Complex. I believe the entrance is, is over in this corner.	00:11:47
	Umm, yeah.	00:11:51
	There, there are going to be these small commer, we call them flexible commercial modules on site that will offer umm.	00:11:53
	I think bathrooms, concessions.	00:11:59
	The umm like the ticket?	00:12:01
	Answering or whatever.	00:12:04
	You wanna call it?	00:12:06
	Umm.	00:12:07
	I thought I had pictures of those, maybe I don't.	00:12:09
	Umm.	00:12:12
	But yeah, from from our end of things that they were looking pretty adequate on parking that we did note that.	00:12:14
	Uh, they, they are over actually on parking, but also these stalls here in the middle are all measured at AT&T.	00:12:19
	Right. And so we did request.	00:12:26
	That they umm ex.	00:12:27
	Send those to the 20 feet and that that might adjust some of the parking numbers but with them already being over by.	00:12:29
	28 stalls we.	00:12:35
	Too concerned on that.	00:12:36
	Umm.	00:12:38
	The cash? Sorry, what? What's the the aisle with on those?	00:12:40
	See, I would I believe it's 24 here. OK. Is that is that good on spot with like fire access or do we need it for that?	00:12:43
	Yeah, no, not on.	00:12:51
	Not on that course.	00:12:52
	No, that's fine. OK.	00:12:54
	Yeah, it was stopping over 30 feet tall.	00:12:56
	Oh, we're next, OK.	00:12:59
	I just asked because we we ran into that before and we didn't check and then we.	00:13:01
	Yeah, I can quickly.	00:13:04
	We can go to 20 and then as long as there's modeling.	00:13:06
	And usually it's the same with the dump truck. So as long as.	00:13:09
	And you're good.	00:13:11
	So when you said that's sent off?	00:13:13
	That's, I mean it's **** * along the street of UMM along the north side.	00:13:16
	Is that correct?	00:13:20
	Yeah, yeah. This, this entire like complex. Is there any California, is there any kind of case?	00:13:21
	I'm on the north side.	00:13:25
	Along the north side, yeah, because again, that's because it's 10th off as many people just decide to park there.	00:13:26
	Like you're saying like park on the street, maybe a street?	00:13:33
	Yeah, and, or even a parking spot that might be designated for like the grocery store. You know what? I'd rather just replace the	00:13:36
	call. Yeah. I mean, technically I, I that would be up to enforcement on their end and private property. And then somebody could	00:13:42
	park here and walk all the way around to the entry. Yeah, that's what this is, a private park.	00:13:47
	Yeah, this is one of the per percent private. There will be like an entry fee.	00:13:53
	Yeah, this is not for for city programming necessarily. OK, so LinkedIn enforcement along the streets to the.	00:13:57
	I mean the part of the the.	00:14:04
	I mean the par so the parking stalls along the street side is.	00:14:06
	All private as well.	00:14:09
	Uh, what street are you talking about? The north side?	00:14:11
	Yeah, those, those are public.	00:14:15
	So that's why I'm guessing that's kind of going back to the same question I just asked before is.	00:14:16
	You know whether you can, whether it be gates along the north side.	00:14:20
	Uh, for people to access.	00:14:23
	To access the the.	00:14:25
	Private amenities on the South side and then the public amenities on the north. So I I believe that only the the big wall ports of	00:14:27
	our fence in the parking lot would not be fenced in.	00:14:31
	And, and some people could we, we could look at doing some kind of on the street that says, you know.	00:14:35
	One hour parking or something like that to make people.	00:14:40
	You know, move their car just.	00:14:43
	If they want to park there to go but.	00:14:44
	Because there is adequate parking in the lot here.	00:14:47
	Umm. I I feel like that can be a pretty minor problem. Which is uh, which is the closest, uh.	00:14:50
	Just got to travel.	00:14:55
	Straight through the parking lot.	00:14:56
	Have you ever been to, uh, Sure. I mean, yeah, that people can park at Yeah. Have you ever been in Boston? Uh, Boston this year?	00:14:58
	Where everyone decides to participate. Yeah, I'm I'm open if you have.	00:15:06
	Creative solutions here. Well, I would like to see Craigslist proper presented by the actually.	00:15:09
	Hold on, I just.	00:15:16
	Right. So that, that's kind of one of the things where, uh, we just wanna make sure that that's.	00:15:17
	That's why I was being addressed as well.	00:15:22
	Because again, it's 100% private energy.	00:15:23
	If it's it was probably it was open to the public, then that would be a different store.	00:15:26
	But if it's that this is 100% private then that's a different store as well. I'm literally seeing people come out of the sun Cam	00:15:29
	place.	00:15:33
	Uh, nearby getting a car.	00:15:37
	Drive 30.	00:15:39
	Free park and then walk in the bus and so.	00:15:41
	Yeah.	00:15:48
	Yeah. I, I, I, I think the, the, you know, best thing that we can do is just find a chair that says.	00:15:51
	You know.	00:15:56
	Parking for for.	00:15:57
	Park visitors only.	00:15:58
	Going back to the same question, uh, uh, early things they've been asked before. I would like to have them provide a solution.	00:16:00
	No.	00:16:05
	Bronson, do you have any ideas?	00:16:06
	No, I mean I, I understand.	00:16:08
	You're talking to people.	00:16:13
	Because it's a it's a private amenity.	00:16:16
	You're talking about, you're talking about if this is a private park, private management, right? And then therefore private	00:16:20
	private businesses, private private property, private amenities.	00:16:24
	I should have parking that.	00:16:29
	Have been friends on the pub in the public.	00:16:30
	On the public stuff, right?	00:16:32
	I'm just. I'm just.	00:16:33
	Basic question like if I have a if I have a car lock.	00:16:35
	And then I decided to park my.	00:16:38
	My my private cars.	00:16:39
	Put my car lost.	00:16:41
	Into a neighborhood.	00:16:42
	How about the same press board?	00:16:44
	As an example.	00:16:45
	I mean, that would be me infringing easing, uh, public property for, uh, for the benefits of private benefits.	00:16:46
	I mean it's.	00:16:52
	That kind of principle we practice on that so.	00:16:53
	Again, for the public.	00:16:55
	If this is a public amenity open to the public, that's a totally different story.	00:16:57
	I guess you can't change that. Something really really quick.	00:17:00
	I, I totally get get what you're saying. We, uh, during.	00:17:03
	The, uh, rewrite of the zoning awareness, I think it was the 20.	00:17:06
	20 or 2021 that that's gonna happen.	00:17:09
	Umm, the City Council actually talked about this this very topic.	00:17:12
	Umm, and.	00:17:16
	Part of what they they wanted was.	00:17:17
	For the public realm.	00:17:20
	To help support the the private businesses. So the idea was like someone wants to park on the street.	00:17:21
	They could. They could go to a coffee shop.	00:17:26
	They they then walk and enjoy the promenade. So the idea was like you're changing southeast.	00:17:29
	A trip so I.	00:17:34
	So I I definitely hear what you're saying, but it Washington, it was an actual, real point. Yeah, well, umm, well, they built into	00:17:36
	the code that.	00:17:39
	On street parking could actually count.	00:17:44
	Towards the minimum.	00:17:46
	Parking requirement because they they were.	00:17:47
	Umm, so the idea was that it was like 1 system and so you could park once and then I guess going back to the same thing then the	00:17:50
	private, the parking lot, uh, to the South, which is.	00:17:55
	For the amenities that.	00:18:01
	Able to utilize for other businesses.	00:18:02
	And so forth. That's how that so that's how restricted you just people.	00:18:04
	Be providing this up.	00:18:07
	The other thing we would should be making sure the science is appropriately done where people can actually say, yeah, they can	00:18:09
	actually park in the area, that kind of thing. Because I would hate for something to happen like we have that, uh.	00:18:14
	Like for example, in the yard, there's one particular business there.	00:18:19
	They'll have a admit that.	00:18:22
	So it has an empty open to the public, but the way that everything.	00:18:23
	Uh.	00:18:26
	Got you.	00:18:28
	There's a perception on it.	00:18:29
	It's private and it's not being utilized by the public even though.	00:18:30
	That's what the that's the intention. Signage is a good idea. I mean it it would probably be good to have your primary.	00:18:33
	Parking for that use in that parking lot and so if there was some signage direction them.	00:18:38
	But also people do park on the street and that was sort of the intent park.	00:18:43
	Go grab some lunch. Go play some.	00:18:47
	Adele, I've heard called paddle dude.	00:18:50
	But.	00:18:58
	But, but I, I, I think, I think this thing is right. So I think having good, good signage so that like the primary.	00:19:00
	Parking occurs where where you want it, but if there is spillover, I give us anticipated in the in the planning above it.	00:19:06
	What what one other thing I I just thought of is.	00:19:13
	Is maybe it would be possible and this would require some work on your end, but you could shift the entrance.	00:19:16
	Further down.	00:19:20
	That's more central to the the site.	00:19:21
	That would discourage people from.	00:19:23
	Feeling like they can park right there.	00:19:25
	So.	00:19:27
	That's about all, takes a lot of time. Like so if you have a pub, if you have a street and then people think they can feel, they	00:19:29
	can feel they can park anywhere. Like for example, I know ETA has a problem with uh, people parking on street.	00:19:33
	Uh, as well. And then it comes down to like, what we don't know, we can do that.	00:19:38
	Typing or we or we didn't know we could do that and vice versa. So now and.	00:19:43
	Then they need to pick up issues.	00:19:46
	Across the board.	00:19:48
	And I just, I hate for that stuff, for failure.	00:19:49
	When we have to do.	00:19:52
	And get successful from the very beginning.	00:19:54
	Do you do you have any signage plan for the?	00:19:58
	Court system.	00:20:02
	Umm.	00:20:04
	Marks and Spencer.	00:20:05
	To go on the medicine.	00:20:07
	Around 2 year old family.	00:20:10
	Would the marketing science be required to go through a signage?	00:20:15
	Uh, permit that, uh, that would be a question for is there internal? Not, not necessarily, but if they're gonna be putting signs	00:20:18
	on the appropriate that, that are advertising it, then we'll have them go through building permit.	00:20:23
	That we'll review it at that stage.	00:20:28
	Bronze I I think this seems absolutely right, though it it it is kind of opposite. It would be nice to have kind of the primary	00:20:31
	users parking there.	00:20:34
	I It was anticipated at the beginning that we we do want people to park once.	00:20:38
	And hit a lot of uses. So they do. Park on the street, go there, grab pizza.	00:20:42
	Go get a, you know, a cup of coffee or ice cream. Like, that's cool.	00:20:45
	But if if we're able to try and manage it?	00:20:48
	At least like the the primary, umm, users like I, I think that's a good thing.	00:20:51
	He's right, the optics of so maybe it's like from the parking lot and.	00:20:56
	If if the entrance.	00:21:00
	I think getting cash mentioned that, but if we pull that down a little bit or?	00:21:01
	If it felt like there was more direct access from like the parking lot. And so I I think that that just reads.	00:21:05
	Maybe it takes a user one or two times to go. Oh I should be parked in there.	00:21:12
	Umm.	00:21:16
	In another.	00:21:27
	Really more tickled for it and.	00:21:28
	Trying to maximize the right.	00:21:32
	The opening should apply down.	00:21:34
	To to line up with kind of that.	00:21:36
	Third line down there.	00:21:39
	And I think that would be.	00:21:40
	Cool.	00:21:42
	DJ .2.	00:21:43
	That's great.	00:21:48
	Do you have, umm, a fancy plan? Obviously you know you guys are putting a lot into.	00:21:50
	The design of it.	00:21:55
	Umm, so.	00:21:57
	Umm is that? Was that part of the packet Cash do we have?	00:21:58
	We didn't. We show where lupus goes and cash is regulated.	00:22:01
	Just around the.	00:22:05
	Yeah.	00:22:07
	There is no testing.	00:22:09
	Sitting close with that occurs since the only north side of this, but that's probably the.	00:22:10
	So.	00:22:14
	Before going to, uh, Planning Commission, if we could have the the fancy plan, that's not the detail that they'll be approved.	00:22:15
	OK.	00:22:21
	Great, down to. That'd be wonderful.	00:22:24
	Umm, I have a question for you as well. So the.	00:22:26
	The two biggest?	00:22:30
	So those white ones.	00:22:31
	Is that tennis?	00:22:33
	And then fadell is the ones on the top.	00:22:35
	Pickle ball on the bottom and this is like the final.	00:22:37
	Plan.	00:22:40
	OK. Yeah, that's awesome.	00:22:42
	I I think that looks really cool. I mainly wanted to ask because.	00:22:45
	Uh, it looks like they're all NS facing as far as the tenants.	00:22:50
	Put on pickle ball at the basketball. Yeah, I remember you probably concerned about the basketball team. Is is that is that umm.	00:22:54
	Is there any way to?	00:22:59
	I know you're tight, but.	00:23:01
	Making that north-south is is is that a better alignment for for basketball?	00:23:03
	I mean NS would be the idea.	00:23:08
	Umm, their own project maybe I kind of a day where.	00:23:11
	That you shouldn't get programmed because of the light? Uh-huh.	00:23:14
	Right.	00:23:19
	Yeah, it's tough.	00:23:20
	You definitely take advantage of.	00:23:24
	Well if if if anything I'm thinking like this is going to get a ton of use.	00:23:28
	Umm, being only one core.	00:23:34
	It's like if.	00:23:37
	Squeeze in and not maybe not right there, but in the area.	00:23:38
	Like an another basketball court, I I could see that being overrun pretty quickly. We'll definitely have another quote.	00:23:40
	OK, Yeah.	00:23:51
	Probably the.	00:23:54
	Counting. Yeah, man.	00:23:56
	Maybe we go double there.	00:24:00
	I do do do a couple.	00:24:01
	OK.	00:24:03
	And it looks like you guys have?	00:24:05
	Trees.	00:24:06
	Plans to be on that.	00:24:08
	West side SO.	00:24:10
	Yeah, yeah, I think that would be a good barrier.	00:24:13
	MMM.	00:24:15
	Umm.	00:24:19
	It is one of those business.	00:24:22
	Oh so.	00:24:24
	Adults are.	00:24:27
	There's a like a glass wall download.	00:24:29
	And then the tenants will have its own.	00:24:31
	We don't really see as many parents all over.	00:24:33
	High risk of the ball.	00:24:43
	Umm, cash, is there a lighting or is there a lighting plan too? Because I, I think that's something that we, we should, we should	00:24:47
	look at.	00:24:50
	Yeah.	00:24:54
	Yeah, I've I've submitted a request for like an updated photometric and and landscaping plan from them.	00:24:56
	Can I say too with having a lot of residential kind of in the area, maybe having it turned off at 10:00 PM or something like that,	00:25:01
	I.	00:25:04
	Umm, you know, I I can see that being proved.	00:25:08
	Problematic you got that many units and then you have to bring some basketball rates in the night so if you had.	00:25:11
	Some control.	00:25:16
	There, umm.	00:25:17
	I don't know what what the appropriate time is, but it seems like 10 seems like.	00:25:18
	You know, but but I have having some control of it. So you're not having a lot of impact on people. Umm, in the event.	00:25:22
	Yeah, yeah.	00:25:33
	And and the recommendation is to.	00:25:38
	Considering establishing.	00:25:41
	Operation. Not necessarily.	00:25:44
	Thank you on that in this moment, right. Yeah, I, I would say I mean because it's it's you're gonna be here as a private	00:25:46
	development so.	00:25:49
	I, I, I, it's like it's anything if someone moves in and they and they know kind of what the quiet hours are, you know, if you	00:25:52
	have some of those.	00:25:56
	Standard policies in place then.	00:26:00
	As long as they know at the front end.	00:26:02
	But it would.	00:26:04
	Yeah, I get to see like rent an apartment or close.	00:26:06
	You're close to that and it's going on until midnight. You have the lights on and everything.	00:26:08
	Right. I think it's like the pickleball club.	00:26:13
	It's an interior, but people will play all night long if they can.	00:26:15
	Yeah, it's just springbill they they they keep their cords with.	00:26:19
	24 hours. I mean, there's houses right next to it. It's causing problems, yeah.	00:26:24
	MG product.	00:26:31
	5 or 6.	00:26:33
	Yeah.	00:26:34
	For that more Mm-hmm.	00:26:36
	OK.	00:26:39
	Kim, any other comments on this item?	00:26:42
	When we expect to see and umm.	00:26:48
	In the back, what were we expected to get back?	00:26:50
	Do you want do you want this back for DRC first with the item?	00:26:54
	To review the changes that were.	00:26:59
	Suggested about the. I mean I would like to see about uh.	00:27:01
	The science proposed signages that they would talk about and so.	00:27:04
	You know, I mean, I, I feel comfortable saying that the the Planning Commission with the updated signage.	00:27:08
	I don't.	00:27:13
	OK.	00:27:14
	When, When? Umm.	00:27:15
	Our because California well cash doesn't keep schedules out all the Planning Commission meetings so that they're not they're not	00:27:17
	in inundated.	00:27:20
	When, When were you I guess?	00:27:23
	Hoping to, to get them on. Yeah, we umm, may may have screwed up. Usually we have.	00:27:25
	Uh, do you actually the the day after Planning Commission, but.	00:27:30
	We have issues this month.	00:27:32
	Umm And so the next Planning Commission was the 21st and we felt comfortable doing this on the 21st with.	00:27:34
	But besides, that would be potentially the 4th. I won't be here on the 4th.	00:27:39
	Umm, and I don't know if you will, Morgan.	00:27:44
	So I don't know if Planning Commission will be held.	00:27:46
	Umm. And so that means it might be the 18th of.	00:27:48
	Of June.	00:27:51
	So this would get pushed back. So this is I'm sorry. So this is scheduled for my weekly.	00:27:52
	The 21st next week, next Wednesday.	00:27:56
	This thing would you feel comfortable if.	00:27:59
	Umm, Bronx and where to schedule a meeting?	00:28:01
	Just looks like you like planning and engineering to to to review lighting.	00:28:03
	That's fine.	00:28:08
	Well, that's fine.	00:28:08
	So forth. Yeah, but.	00:28:10
	That'll be fine too.	00:28:16
	I, I just say because we have a few big master plans that are going to hit planning, Planning Commission and it'd be nice not to	00:28:17
	have anything on one meeting.	00:28:20
	So if we could do that, then I mean, I'm OK having multiple, uh, items on Planning Commission meeting, I mean.	00:28:24
	Kind of they they get the.	00:28:29
	Dollar in their pay, right?	00:28:31
	But if you're OK with that, then what we could do?	00:28:35
	Something specific?	00:28:38
	Umm, yeah, yeah, I can work with prompt and I'm setting something up either before Planning Commission, you can figure that out,	00:28:39
	or we could do a conditional approval.	00:28:42
	That planning permission.	00:28:45
	We're not able to align schedules in the last two days.	00:28:47
	Yeah.	00:28:49
	So I need to get a motion for that there there there's no motion on more questions, just recommendation.	00:28:53
	OK, Yep.	00:29:00
	Great. Well, I guess then we'll move on to.	00:29:04
	5.4 The green line block 4.	00:29:06
	Hotel Village.	00:29:08
	Yeah, this is uh, another, uh, applica application for Brompton, Utah City.	00:29:10
	Umm uh, essentially the the Greenway was was approved as part of the promenade auto uh.	00:29:15
	Site plan, uh, in August.	00:29:21
	2023.	00:29:22
	Umm, and they wanted to come back and and update that site plan.	00:29:24
	To show.	00:29:27
	Umm, some additional retail usages here. So let me pull up the.	00:29:28
	You can kind of see on this.	00:29:33
	Showed you where the Greenway is.	00:29:34
	Umm, not applicable complexes on this corner, so.	00:29:37
	Just right.	00:29:39
	That, umm.	00:29:40
	Let me find the actual.	00:29:43
	Full site here.	00:29:45
	Mm-hmm.	00:29:49
	But essentially they're gonna be adding in 10 pop up.	00:29:51
	Restaurants when uh uh, retail spots once another.	00:29:55
	The flexible commercial modules.	00:29:58
	That that has been approved.	00:30:00
	And then there will be 1 larger uh restaurant located in the middle.	00:30:01
	There it is. So you can kind of see this is right in the center in the the previous I find that was approved.	00:30:07
	This was just.	00:30:12
	Kind of one large pavilion. I think even then the idea was that that pavilion would have a restaurant in it.	00:30:13
	But it was just kind of a more refined, uh, approach and.	00:30:18
	Umm, we, we, we like the idea.	00:30:21
	Is it will offer for more retail uses to come on deactivated earlier.	00:30:23
	Umm, and so you can kind of see the the change right here.	00:30:28
	Bronson I I don't know if there's anything else you want to add to to that.	00:30:33
	This is go take Florida build SPC systems.	00:30:47
	Mm-hmm.	00:30:49
	How much is next year?	00:30:51
	Umm, sorry.	00:30:53
	2.	00:30:55
	I know, umm, initially we kind of looked at it as.	00:30:58
	More of like a park amenity you're providing some, some, some.	00:31:02
	You know, amenities for people that are visiting the park.	00:31:05
	And I mean, I, I think this is great, but it does.	00:31:08
	It's starting to kind of.	00:31:11
	I guess transition more into like a small retail center.	00:31:13
	So parking.	00:31:16
	Umm, I, I and we, we have like part. So we were essentially in the past just like, well, we just applied like the parking	00:31:18
	requirements that a park would have and that would be like the Promenade St.	00:31:23
	Umm, I think.	00:31:28
	Umm, that's why we may wanna look at angled parking. I know that would require curb cuts and making some changes, but.	00:31:30
	When when you're putting potentially.	00:31:37
	How how many buildings did you have there? Was that 8?	00:31:39
	El 11.	00:31:42
	Yes, you're you're going to have some that are going to they're going to pull some. This is great. So I don't, I don't, it's not I	00:31:44
	I want this 100%, but I also don't want it to be the kind of thing where where like you guys didn't plan for parking.	00:31:49
	Is there? Could you look at doing an angle parking as opposed to parallel parking? I think you could put a lot more in there.	00:31:54
	Umm, and still kind of have the amenities of.	00:32:02
	Park you're not gonna necessarily like.	00:32:05
	You know you you're gonna lose.	00:32:07
	You know you're going basically from like A7.	00:32:10
	Cut to I think it's in the 16 for the depth of a.	00:32:12
	Of 1917.	00:32:17
	17.	00:32:18
	So, umm.	00:32:19
	Uh, you're, you're, you're 10 feet on each side. You're 20 feet.	00:32:20
	Umm, is is. How can we look at that?	00:32:25
	OK.	00:32:29
	To walk by the street, but I think while we were.	00:32:30
	Mm-hmm.	00:32:32
	We've oversized it.	00:32:36
	To convince, we will.	00:32:37
	When the paperwork goes away and.	00:32:39
	That we've been in place.	00:32:41
	Uh, we will replace that off site for you.	00:32:43
	Uh.	00:32:48
	You know.	00:32:54
	Information.	00:32:56
	Bye.	00:32:58
	Parking lot.	00:32:59
	What I don't want to have happen is a loose bite of what parking department would be for this.	00:33:02
	And then we we lose it when?	00:33:09
	Umm, I think the primary part of life is from The thing is probably going to be downstream. That's going to be OK.	00:33:13
	But once that she pills.	00:33:21
	There will be overdraft.	00:33:23
	Right.	00:33:26
	Actually I I think though it would it would.	00:33:32
	Be helpful for us to have it analyzed a little bit more before we go to Planning Commission.	00:33:35
	I say that because like, umm, recently I, I, I visited Cincinnati, Cash was there and they have these great barks.	00:33:39
	And a lot of the parts will have.	00:33:46
	Like umm, they'll have a place where you can get like.	00:33:47
	I, I don't know, like ice cream or they'll have like a shop that.	00:33:51
	But it's like the park shop. It's not, it's not like you're driving to the park to go to the shop. It's just it helps add to the	00:33:54
	ambiance of it.	00:33:57
	Whereas you have 11 businesses.	00:34:01
	Umm, that's actually located like I, I, I think that is gonna.	00:34:03
	In itself become a destination and so.	00:34:06
	Having.	00:34:10
	The parking analyze a a little bit more.	00:34:11
	And so like the oversized parking lot.	00:34:14
	If you could help.	00:34:16
	The Planning Commission understand that that can accommodate both uses.	00:34:17
	If there is like.	00:34:20
	A peak, it's just the peaks are offset or something like that that that helps.	00:34:22
	Umm, but.	00:34:26
	To be honest, I I don't feel.	00:34:27
	Comfortable bringing that to Planning Commission until we we can say.	00:34:29
	You know, umm, the parking code requires this.	00:34:32
	For the retail uses.	00:34:35
	And we have that figured out. I, I, I'd like to be able to hand them basically a parking plan for this. I, I think you appreciate	00:34:37
	what I'm saying. I.	00:34:40
	I just don't want this.	00:34:44
	Just started to blow up into something bigger. Umm.	00:34:45
	OK.	00:34:52
	OK, yeah. And I just want to.	00:34:54
	Just, uh, for my colleague on the left.	00:34:57
	Umm, that, uh.	00:34:59
	The depth of a parking stopper angle.	00:35:01
	OK, bye, bye.	00:35:03
	As a table going about.	00:35:04
	19 feet. You can probably go as min as minimal as 8, uh, 17 feet.	00:35:05
	Depending on the angle, but uh.	00:35:10
	Uh, we just gotta make sure that, umm.	00:35:13
	There's, uh, again, this is, you tell people don't drive, uh, compact cars very much.	00:35:15
	I must, uh, hesitate to mess up mental change, but uh.	00:35:20
	That would be my concern to fire access. This is a.	00:35:24
	And there it's an artery for.	00:35:28
	All of those other apartments and.	00:35:30
	I guess that would be the only thing I bring up in this situation and try and glean some of your knowledge. Umm is the double	00:35:33
	parking situation.	00:35:37
	Because people aren't just gonna come and park.	00:35:41
	They're gonna be dropping off kids. They're gonna be dropping off.	00:35:43
	You know.	00:35:47
	Family members while they go find the parking spot somewhere else and.	00:35:47
	You know any medical?	00:35:51
	To block 5, block 6, you know, I think.	00:35:53
	Delivery payments.	00:35:57
	Just how to?	00:35:59
	Is there any signage? Is there any?	00:36:00
	The thing that's worked in the past that you've seen?	00:36:02
	That with that narrow narrow Rd. with.	00:36:05
	That it it still allows for fire department access for emergency situations.	00:36:08
	Uh, I think the.	00:36:13
	And I'm not so much concerned with like.	00:36:21
	You know, being able to pull up and and park because I mean, well.	00:36:29
	We'll just take the street.	00:36:32
	You know what I mean and it'll just cause lots of problems but.	00:36:33
	Umm, it's.	00:36:37
	It's getting through that area if there's people like the public, the general public part.	00:36:38
	You know, Double Park trying to drop people off on both sides.	00:36:43
	Yeah.	00:36:46
	Yeah, that kind of a thing.	00:36:48
	Yeah, we, I think that's probably a good idea. We could.	00:36:50
	Yeah, I like that a lot. Mm-hmm.	00:36:54
	And why? Why am I close to like?	00:36:57
	Find a spot in between that and where the pickle ball is gonna be, because I can see the pickle ball be a spot where like, hey,	00:37:00
	drop your kids off. They're gonna go play basketball or pick ball or whatever, or they can.	00:37:05
	They can go to shops here.	00:37:09
	And, uh, I would like to see the, when you do the parking and account management says every analysis of the parking, uh.	00:37:12
	Requirements because.	00:37:18
	Not that far away that you do have another.	00:37:19
	Uh, public Parkish.	00:37:22
	But umm.	00:37:24
	Over by block 5.	00:37:26
	That's somewhat mistaken block.	00:37:27
	Or that, uh, I can't. I'm guessing that would be an alternate.	00:37:30
	Alternative of.	00:37:34
	People park, which kind of crushes into.	00:37:35
	Uh, to be, uh.	00:37:37
	Uh, selfish. It encroaches into the uh.	00:37:40
	Take your fingers center.	00:37:43
	Uh, location.	00:37:46
	And then with the plan, uh, plan programs is that.	00:37:47
	And, uh, kinda looked at over there.	00:37:51
	And would potentially happen to.	00:37:55
	To close down part.	00:37:56
	Parking UH St.	00:37:58
	Parking area for.	00:37:59
	Other programs that you know you may find yourself short.	00:38:00
	On your.	00:38:04
	Customer availability.	00:38:07
	I'll just say like I have to.	00:38:10
	Uh, with someone with.	00:38:12
	Yeah, I'm not. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's coming. 4 kids.	00:38:14
	Umm, but there's no parking. I'd rather go McDonald's. Go to McDonald's.	00:38:18
	Got you or whatever got you there is.	00:38:21
	I was just gonna get a hold.	00:38:23
	But I just wanna make sure that's what your analysis doesn't sell over.	00:38:25
	Into other areas.	00:38:29
	That is going to start then then start becoming down up there.	00:38:30
	On that so I really.	00:38:33
	They first talk to you. Really.	00:38:36
	Really think that's true?	00:38:38
	Bye.	00:38:39
	Everything, Sir.	00:38:40
	Think about parking.	00:38:46
	Every day.	00:38:48
	OK Umm, yeah, I was too important. I wanted to interject that on the village is.	00:38:50
	Those buildings are 250 feet.	00:38:55
	The parking load.	00:39:00
	Generated by those is.	00:39:01
	It's pretty limited and I think we have.	00:39:03
	More.	00:39:05
	Than what would be required around?	00:39:06
	The perimeter of the part.	00:39:08
	But I think the point is still valid, and we're still.	00:39:10
	You know, but then but like a lot of mixed-use developments, we're trying to get people out of their car.	00:39:13
	And stay in this park, stay in other areas and so.	00:39:18
	We intentionally want them to walk a little bit.	00:39:21
	To get there so.	00:39:23
	We are planning.	00:39:24
	Parking areas.	00:39:25
	Kind of adjacent to the park.	00:39:27
	And but we wanna provide all that.	00:39:28
	Obviously people don't like.	00:39:30
	With other parking, they're not coming back.	00:39:32
	So.	00:39:34
	Great point.	00:39:35
	Umm on the fire access one of the things.	00:39:36
	I know we talked a little bit about and I think.	00:39:39
	To me.	00:39:42
	Is the plan we should.	00:39:43
	Probably formalizes to.	00:39:45
	These are narrow streets when they're double loaded and so.	00:39:47
	We have.	00:39:52
	Good access.	00:39:52
	Particularly.	00:39:54
	Behind these boxes like.	00:39:56
	If yeah in the grid.	00:39:58
	So I think.	00:40:00
	To me, what I would propose is we should probably set a meeting out.	00:40:01
	With a master.	00:40:06
	Plan and talk about what those access points to different buildings are and.	00:40:07
	The way you get there.	00:40:11
	No matter what's going on in this intersection, you always know you can get there.	00:40:13
	So I would.	00:40:17
	I I definitely, I can appreciate the collateral. What you know what I mean?	00:40:19
	There's definitely great options for that. It's just once we've committed to 1 angle.	00:40:24
	With a 20 foot.	00:40:28
	I mean, you're trying to back up a.	00:40:30
	About 45 foot.	00:40:32
	Ladder truck.	00:40:33
	You know to to get to one of those collaterals.	00:40:35
	And by that time?	00:40:37
	10 more vehicles that pulled in behind you.	00:40:39
	We could totally understand it could cause some.	00:40:42
	Some major delays, you know, and I don't want that. Uh yeah, uh.	00:40:45
	Kind of. I don't want to see for uh.	00:40:49
	Right. And, uh.	00:40:51
	I mean.	00:40:52
	And, and I would totally respect Brandon's thing And, uh, I think I respected more because, uh, myself, I've, I've done Fire	00:40:53
	Rescue myself as well.	00:40:57
	And it.	00:41:01
	You know, put yourself in the shoes and then you'll actually appreciate.	00:41:02
	What ha, what that, what I'm looking I go through and so forth.	00:41:05
	It's not, it's not it's and it says it's like every second count.	00:41:08
	And that's really what we wanna make sure.	00:41:12
	The support that the Brandon and his team have is.	00:41:14
	Not to be, uh.	00:41:17
	Underestimate.	00:41:18
	I don't like the I like the idea of meeting and getting the crews involved in that meeting as well. Umm.	00:41:19
	You have to like. These are the best access points. If it's this address, this is your primary access point.	00:41:25
	So that they're not always just like, hey, here's my light, I'm gonna take a ride and then.	00:41:32
	Try and find it back in there.	00:41:36
	Umm, as far as the the angled parking.	00:41:38
	If it's a 20 foot Rd. I would really strongly discourage any.	00:41:43
	Angle parking, it sounds like it for anything that's in there already, that's kind of a non issue, but.	00:41:46
	Sure I do.	00:41:53
	Uh, we'd love to think that it's just gonna be Priuses and.	00:41:54
	Smart cars and that kind of stuff. But it's gonna be me with my big redneck.	00:41:57
	Diesel truck that sticks out four feet into the intersection.	00:42:02
	That causes a.	00:42:05
	If it was 26 feet, I I wouldn't have a problem at all, but that's a 20 foot mark. It's just.	00:42:07
	That, I mean, that's 20 feet.	00:42:13
	If they park on the curve.	00:42:14
	Yeah.	00:42:16
	A foot off occurred because they were in a hurry.	00:42:17
	Trying to pull into a.	00:42:19
	You know a small spot or something like that, but.	00:42:22
	So.	00:42:24
	I think we're in agreement on that.	00:42:25
	BJ and Bronson? I think so.	00:42:26
	Maybe moving forward on this.	00:42:29
	Umm, you have the minimum parking requirement in the code.	00:42:31
	So if you can, just.	00:42:34
	Take the the square footages show that you can meet that.	00:42:35
	And have that analyzed within the greater context.	00:42:39
	Of kind of the parts.	00:42:42
	Uses and.	00:42:43
	Umm, the businesses around it. So.	00:42:45
	I know there's a lot of shared parking.	00:42:47
	But just kind of understanding, uh, if these are built.	00:42:48
	Umm, people coming.	00:42:51
	To one of those 11 businesses are are.	00:42:53
	You know they're they're gonna be able to find parking that is accommodated with within that the.	00:42:55
	Periphery of it somewhere.	00:43:00
	Umm. And then secondly.	00:43:01
	Umm, what? What's that of something?	00:43:04
	With with the brand and his team.	00:43:06
	To talk more kind of the context like the the surrounding blocks, the fire access.	00:43:08
	I I believe that you, you guys did back in the day with Russ.	00:43:13
	Right, like a couple years ago you, you know, with them. But I think it's probably good to get like a good update.	00:43:16
	And since you have some of the infrastructure on site too, maybe meeting on site and just just.	00:43:21
	Being being able to talk specifically with what's built there.	00:43:26
	I think that that probably could help inform the conversation.	00:43:30
	And maybe we can.	00:43:34
	Uh, I'm not.	00:43:35
	I'm not sure if this level.	00:43:37
	You know when that meeting needs to happen.	00:43:38
	That'll probably be as we.	00:43:41
	Build out a little bit more and we get more.	00:43:42
	That kind of stuff I know we're getting ready to.	00:43:45
	To finish up the the permit final on five AB.	00:43:47
	Umm, yeah. So I mean, there's gonna be people in there here soon.	00:43:51
	But I think.	00:43:56
	That one, we're probably gonna be fine. Like they can access that from one of the main roads and there's not gonna be an issue,	00:43:57
	but maybe after.	00:44:00
	This part gets built out in that other.	00:44:03
	Parked next to it gets built out of town and.	00:44:05
	That way we're not.	00:44:08
	I'm not wasting your time.	00:44:09
	Thank you.	00:44:11
	OK, there's not any other.	00:44:17
	Questions or concerns from the committee move on to.	00:44:19
	Item 5.5.	00:44:23
	You touch any block.	00:44:25
	13C.	00:44:26
	Yeah, what we're doing.	00:44:28
	So yeah, this this is just a change to the block 13 C that was originally grouped in October 2024. So.	00:44:31
	I'll let, uh, looks like DJ kind of give an overview of of the site and the changes that are that are happening here.	00:44:39
	So overall the site umm.	00:44:46
	There's three main changes.	00:44:48
	Uh, on the southeast corner.	00:44:50
	We've we already had a, uh, outdoor seating area that had a canopy over.	00:44:53
	And now?	00:44:59
	That is, uh.	00:45:00
	We've pulled the building edge out.	00:45:01
	With where that edge of that seating area was originally.	00:45:03
	Uh, so.	00:45:07
	It's, uh, infringing in the right of way there.	00:45:09
	And so otherwise in that corner in cash, you would have the e-mail.	00:45:12
	Umm, basically.	00:45:16
	All the use is the same.	00:45:17
	Within the building we that corner right there is a two-story amenities, uh, space.	00:45:19
	Lots of glazing. You look in and you actually see amenity.	00:45:26
	Uh, area That's on the second floor.	00:45:29
	Step back.	00:45:32
	Umm, so.	00:45:33
	That area now does.	00:45:35
	Columnist in the shaded area.	00:45:36
	Or out of in the sidewalk.	00:45:38
	Uh, and we.	00:45:40
	Provided enough areas so there's ample.	00:45:41
	Pedestrian.	00:45:44
	Uh, way.	00:45:45
	Through there.	00:45:46
	And then on the West side.	00:45:48
	Side of the building.	00:45:49
	That building edge, umm.	00:45:53
	Has been pulled.	00:45:56
	And basically.	00:45:57
	We've provided.	00:45:59
	What I'll call.	00:46:01
	Wall columns and on the left side of the sidewalk there.	00:46:02
	Uh, they land.	00:46:06
	Uh, it's on the.	00:46:07
	Basically that bottom.	00:46:09
	Uh, wing of the building and the north wing of the building industry.	00:46:10
	Yeah.	00:46:14
	Yeah. So that's that edge, but.	00:46:15
	It's a completely open pedestrian.	00:46:17
	Uh, environment.	00:46:19
	So no cars, no cars will be on that road at all, on that one at all.	00:46:21
	No, no cars.	00:46:25
	So I can please shut off.	00:46:26
	No.	00:46:27
	Yeah, I'm at the road. Yes, Sir.	00:46:29
	Cars. Yeah, there's cars there. But I mean, I'm just looking. I mean, is that column right there?	00:46:31
	If I'm there, that's right outside the curb.	00:46:35
	No, that's the one.	00:46:38
	That's fine. OK, that's fine.	00:46:40
	And then I guess my other question just comes out.	00:46:42
	I'll, I'll also kind of be an expert, but I think I will be.	00:46:45
	Uh, but that is their access for ADA.	00:46:47
	To take that corner.	00:46:50
	Is your ADA access to make that corner? Absolutely.	00:46:51
	What's that about?	00:46:56
	At the SH. At the at the tire's point.	00:46:58
	What is the height of that?	00:47:01
	So yeah, it's in the time around.	00:47:04
	Yeah, OK.	00:47:10
	Correct, correct.	00:47:12
	I think we did that.	00:47:14
	A little bit better.	00:47:17
	You know, like I, I don't know, is this, is this like?	00:47:18
	So.	00:47:20
	Basically.	00:47:24
	At ground level, Sorry.	00:47:25
	The building is here.	00:47:27
	OK, that's the.	00:47:30
	Sidewalk passes through the building up above.	00:47:32
	From the year end.	00:47:35
	So wall column OK.	00:47:37
	So in our case, yeah, yeah. Oh, OK.	00:47:41
	You you, you have that in like a.	00:47:44
	Uh, an industry view or something that could help elevation line for better future?	00:47:47
	Could you put that in?	00:47:54
	How are you looking for that? I was just curious with the staff of the UMM.	00:47:55
	I believe that it's supposed to be an, uh, kind of agreement in place in regards to.	00:47:59
	Uh, utilizing uh.	00:48:03
	Of the.	00:48:05
	Right, because our case.	00:48:06
	Overhang over public spaces.	00:48:08
	You know what the agreement is that.	00:48:10
	Uh, the one that refers to in the plat.	00:48:14
	Mm-hmm.	00:48:16
	No.	00:48:17
	Uh, the in in the.	00:48:19
	Flat we added language, Jamie and.	00:48:21
	And Wade had agreed on.	00:48:24
	So that language is in the file that you guys approved.	00:48:26
	So 2 weeks ago.	00:48:29
	Right. And it it?	00:48:30
	From what it sounds like from Jamie, that was.	00:48:32
	The extent of what needed to be done.	00:48:35
	So cash, so with the language added.	00:48:40
	The residential uses overlapping the public realm? Or are are we good from a legal perspective?	00:48:43
	So I guess so.	00:48:53
	That's that's part of the reason why this is.	00:48:55
	Coming back in for site plan amendment.	00:48:56
	Because of these.	00:48:58
	We had to amend the plat.	00:49:00
	And now we're.	00:49:01
	Now we're bringing the building.	00:49:03
	To follow that.	00:49:04
	So may maybe before so, so, so we're going back to Planning Commission, Yeah, but this is so would this be the first time this	00:49:09
	billing has come? No, this this billing was approved I think October 2023.	00:49:14
	OK.	00:49:18
	OK.	00:49:20
	Umm, but.	00:49:20
	Yeah, you know, they they've updated the the parking.	00:49:21
	Plan that you've seen here.	00:49:24
	Because they are bringing additional units to the area.	00:49:26
	Umm, so they did increase the the number of available parking for the site.	00:49:29
	Umm, this is starting to.	00:49:33
	So.	00:49:36
	Right how how many floors are you? Is that are those 787 floors?	00:49:38
	On the right, the tower here, yeah. And then 5.	00:49:45
	Levels. Oh, cool. OK.	00:49:48
	Nice.	00:49:51
	And has the has the parts been recorded for this one? I'm not yet. We're working on that right now.	00:49:53
	What's the size of the spot?	00:49:58
	What's that with his *** again? Just.	00:50:00
	We're just finalizing the the legal language.	00:50:02
	And it'll be recorded. Oh, we're still your language.	00:50:05
	The legal language about the arcades and.	00:50:07
	So OK, you're finalizing it. So technically it's all been approved and we just need the Mylars.	00:50:09
	So you're not finalizing the legal language for you, just waiting for the mylar.	00:50:16
	Yeah, yeah. We're, we're in the process of getting it reported right now.	00:50:19
	I think there were some address changes that were still.	00:50:23
	Making them.	00:50:26
	There were a couple of conditions of approval, so this one goes towards the Planning Commission, so the plans are recorded.	00:50:27
	Well, we we can take it to Planning Commission and.	00:50:32
	You know they they can't give a building permit until the the five hyphen recorded.	00:50:35
	OK, any other?	00:50:49
	Questions or concerns from the committee?	00:50:51
	One one question that I would have.	00:50:54
	UMM is with the storm drain.	00:50:56
	So this this is a little bit different from what I.	00:51:00
	What I saw before.	00:51:02
	There's gonna be a storm drain pipe that's really close to those footings.	00:51:04
	Umm, so but.	00:51:08
	I, I, from my understanding, you guys are lowering the footing, so they'll be under that.	00:51:10
	So we're pressing and putting.	00:51:16
	Far deeper than we need to be.	00:51:18
	So that you they don't.	00:51:20
	Uh, share with you building.	00:51:22
	OK, is this the? Is this the billing is gonna have the blade sign?	00:51:25
	Oh, you're not gonna add a blade sign to this one?	00:51:29
	We haven't figured out.	00:51:33
	All these blade signs.	00:51:37
	That's like the name.	00:51:42
	Blade.	00:51:44
	OK, little Wesley Snipes.	00:51:48
	You know, reference there.	00:51:50
	Go to.	00:51:51
	Item 5.6 The Utah City Wellness Center and resort pool.	00:51:54
	Yeah, this is one thing. Another checkpoint.	00:51:59
	Umm, we will move through Reflect.	00:52:02
	My microphone was.	00:52:05
	Uh, December 2023 when this was originally proved it it pipeline.	00:52:06
	Umm, they're, they're coming back with.	00:52:10
	With some changes to the pool. No changes to use or the size or anything like that.	00:52:12
	Umm, they, they are gonna come in with more of a phased approach. You can kind of see I think in the.	00:52:15
	Diagram.	00:52:20
	So phase one is, is the kids school concession bathroom flash pad.	00:52:21
	Just overlooked Phase 2 will be the main pool, quiet spa and then.	00:52:25
	Later on they'll bring in the the spa building and restaurant here. Can you point out where the lazy river is at, Uh?	00:52:29
	Sorry about that.	00:52:37
	You know, I think.	00:52:42
	Probably scrapping City Hall and putting the.	00:52:44
	So.	00:52:51
	Yeah, we, we have no, no issues Like I said there there wasn't any changes of use of size or anything like that. So.	00:52:52
	Just just a change in the shape of pool and then the the kind of the overall design of the building.	00:52:58
	The change? So this is that restroom building with an overlook on it.	00:53:04
	In the concessions building here.	00:53:08
	Just a question on the Aquatic Center. So would that be privately owned?	00:53:10
	Meaning that.	00:53:14
	Would there be an option for like swimming lessons to be offered there?	00:53:15
	Yeah, we'll go ahead.	00:53:20
	Yeah, it will it.	00:53:22
	So we're building this, feeding into the city, and then we're releasing it back.	00:53:23
	Although the lease agreement.	00:53:27
	Uh, was approved that I don't know how long ago December 2023. And so since then we've been working on this, but.	00:53:29
	Umm, I think there would be something.	00:53:39
	Uh, uh, that was one of the changes from the last.	00:53:42
	Concept is this tool has flatly implemented now.	00:53:45
	Right on the along.	00:53:48
	Section, Yeah.	00:53:50
	How many lanes is there?	00:53:52
	Uh, client.	00:53:54
	Uh yeah, 3 or 4?	00:53:56
	Yeah. I mean, that seems like a good partnership with the city. I mean, I know you guys are gonna be leasing kinda.	00:53:58
	Operating, but I think working with.	00:54:03
	But Brian and that, that'd be a really awesome benefit.	00:54:05
	For our resident as a whole.	00:54:08
	That's a big ask that I've noticed in the community if they want.	00:54:10
	A place they can have swim lessons. That's a huge draw to go outside the city to other segments. I mean, right now Brian's taking	00:54:14
	them out to the lake.	00:54:17
	What luck is algae blown to let the kids flow a little bit on it? But I think, uh.	00:54:22
	Yeah. So those lanes, is that a 25?	00:54:29
	Meter distance 50m.	00:54:33
	That's OK. Yeah, they are like.	00:54:36
	OK, no worries on the splash pad, we're umm.	00:54:41
	We did get a couple of comments about the current splash pad.	00:54:45
	Last night or is is this?	00:54:48
	Mm-hmm. Have some wow factors. It's gonna, it's gonna blow our residents away.	00:54:50
	I mean, I can kinda walk you through what it is and I guess your own decision is that.	00:54:54
	I've got enough flow in it, but.	00:54:59
	Umm, the kind of Oval. There will be some structures in it that are spreading water from above.	00:55:01
	And that'll be some ground sprays in that Oval.	00:55:07
	Uh, and then the.	00:55:10
	I don't know what kind of shape that is, but the upper one.	00:55:12
	That one's got a main feature there is.	00:55:14
	A water tunnel.	00:55:17
	So it'll have like.	00:55:18
	Several streams in a line.	00:55:19
	Create an arc.	00:55:21
	Umm, that the kids can run through and then.	00:55:23
	Besides that, it's a lot of other ground spree.	00:55:25
	So does will you be operating the splash pad?	00:55:27
	OK, so that's not something like that's not gonna turn into like a public works.	00:55:31
	Kind kind of thing.	00:55:35
	Right. The plan is out of state. All the equipment is up.	00:55:36
	In the cool I I think that's that's really helpful for for the same crew. Oh yeah, again, I mean.	00:55:39
	Department. Uh.	00:55:49
	Excuse me, the health department obviously involved, that's something that we're going to be looking at with.	00:55:50
	We'll be happy to review during.	00:55:55
	Umm, building permit stages.	00:55:58
	Of course, I'm sure Chris Johnson enough.	00:55:59
	Unfortunately, uh, Patricia will be all, uh, we'll be on top of that and.	00:56:02
	Another aspect too.	00:56:06
	But uh, our quality samples will have to be taken care of. Uh, and then that's usually taken care of by the city. And then of	00:56:08
	course because of the discharges, especially with the chlorine.	00:56:12
	And so forth, so forth. So you know, I mean, fortunately the.	00:56:17
	Yeah, yeah, they are. They're day-to-day operations.	00:56:22
	Uh, with you? With them.	00:56:25
	Uh, developers.	00:56:26
	On under late, but this is.	00:56:28
	Especially specifically sensitive public land.	00:56:30
	Public property under lease, the city does hold ultimate responsibility for that, so we'll have to make sure that we put into it.	00:56:32
	I don't like the agreement at the city.	00:56:39
	Does retain the, uh, the right?	00:56:40
	Yeah, sure that those things are being done.	00:56:42
	And also has the right to take it over if uh, the future housing, especially for public health.	00:56:44
	Issue 11, quick question I had about the splash pad and maybe from the pool, could you maybe talk about?	00:56:49
	What you're doing provide shade. I know that that our part, you know, we've had to come back a few years later and have some chase	00:56:56
	sales to the area.	00:56:59
	So just kind of to address that that factor.	00:57:03
	Yeah, no, I mean.	00:57:07
	Yeah, how are you?	00:57:09
	So they're in in the park, there's two pavilions just.	00:57:10
	There's that one there.	00:57:13
	Better than that.	00:57:15
	Based on their going a little further South.	00:57:16
	Umm, in the green areas there's trees planned.	00:57:18
	Uh, specifically around the splash pad and then up in the.	00:57:22
	The resort pool area.	00:57:26
	It's kind of a.	00:57:27
	You know there's.	00:57:29
	The Fundares And then there's people that want to shave themselves. There's gonna be a mix.	00:57:30
	Uh, sunny areas and a mix of shaded areas with.	00:57:34
	Uh, like.	00:57:38
	Cabana style shade for umbrella shade.	00:57:39
	Umm, or appreciate?	00:57:43
	Is that is is that you have those details?	00:57:45
	Umm, that, that it's just, it's just one of the things that we're, we're gonna hear about. And so it would be nice to say maybe if	00:57:48
	we could align on, on the shade part, that's, that's gonna be 1 of the main things and there's not enough.	00:57:53
	Yeah, I, I.	00:57:59
	I don't know that it's in here. We have the same plan that shows.	00:58:00
	Cabanas.	00:58:04
	All the landscaping and OK.	00:58:06
	And I would say that's probably more people are gonna be more concerned about that the splash pad than than the pool could.	00:58:09
	When you are going to pull it is more of a sunny environment but and if the parents watching the kids at the.	00:58:14
	Flash pad that are wanting and this flash pad is no no entry fee right that's.	00:58:19
	So so you can park, walk, walk right into it.	00:58:24
	Umm, so that's gonna feel more like a public park. So that, that, that would be 1. I would definitely, umm, work with Brian. I	00:58:27
	think just strategically if you have some spots, Arkansas around it where there's, there's some shade sales because the trades are	00:58:32
	gonna take a little bit too.	00:58:36
	Umm, leap out and spread. So I think if we could day one have a few shade sales just kind of around that area.	00:58:41
	Umm, well, that'll help us out.	00:58:48
	And to clarify, the shade ideally in kind of the seating area is not necessarily in the splash pad.	00:58:50
	Like at Grove Park, we aren't really putting any.	00:58:56
	In the splash pad, it's.	00:58:59
	Just providing the shade to the.	00:59:01
	Parents basically that are.	00:59:02
	Watching the kids.	00:59:04
	So.	00:59:06
	For when the kids.	00:59:09
	Out of the front end of the shade period.	00:59:10
	Sure, that's good.	00:59:12
	Couple other quick things to point out about changes.	00:59:15
	Really about.	00:59:18
	Full shape.	00:59:19
	That was the the main thing.	00:59:20
	They were tied to them.	00:59:21
	Previous design.	00:59:23
	So we.	00:59:24
	We've changed those. We've also.	00:59:26
	Like around.	00:59:27
	That we've added.	00:59:29
	The lap lanes and also.	00:59:30
	Uh, that's set up for.	00:59:32
	I don't know if you guys have ever seen.	00:59:34
	Uh, uh, there's a water aerobics like our cardio class. I would call it aerobics cardio class on top of wraps.	00:59:35
	Mm-hmm. So it's set up to, uh, take that.	00:59:43
	Uh, which looks pretty cool.	00:59:45
	The phasing is, umm, not intended to be.	00:59:47
	A a very separated thing.	00:59:51
	It's really we wanna make sure that by Memorial Day next year.	00:59:53
	That we're opening.	00:59:57
	Pool, the bathroom building, that concession building, we wanna make sure it's open for the beginning of the summer.	00:59:59
	Next year.	01:00:04
	The rest of it will just continue construction.	01:00:06
	So the rest of it will be.	01:00:08
	Under construction at the same time.	01:00:11
	So that that's really the I do have a request. Umm, Springville does this really well.	01:00:13
	It's so fun.	01:00:18
	So like the UMM, like the floating cardio?	01:00:19
	Umm.	01:00:22
	I'm sure that part's fine, but what the best part is they have these areas like contact where you can, uh, when you're on the	01:00:23
	treadmill.	01:00:26
	So you're watching people?	01:00:29
	Fall off.	01:00:30
	Into the law it's.	01:00:31
	The best, I don't know. It's so entertaining. So if you could have like an observation.	01:00:32
	It really is funny because you have everyone on the treadmill.	01:00:38
	You're watching people like like Teeter Totter and they fall off.	01:00:41
	Everyone on the track like all the treadmills are laughing. So if you could, uh.	01:00:44
	Yeah, anyway, just a suggestion.	01:00:50
	I have one small request too. Umm.	01:00:52
	Can you?	01:00:54
	Send me just, uh, quantities of chlorine stored where they're at.	01:00:55
	Like location.	01:00:58
	And then where it's a privately owned there?	01:01:00
	Like an operational permit just.	01:01:02
	Once a year inspection type.	01:01:04
	So ultimately the chemicals, we'll do that.	01:01:06
	But it stored under that upper pool.	01:01:09
	So that's quite spa pool is elevated in half the second floor.	01:01:12
	To the building, so underneath.	01:01:16
	You know, basically being a.	01:01:18
	A concrete, yeah.	01:01:20
	I mean, he's right now.	01:01:21
	I don't know the quantum OK off the top of my head, yes.	01:01:24
	But but we'll get that for you, yeah, because.	01:01:27
	We're partners and.	01:01:30
	Sounds good statements.	01:01:31
	The city itself will have to put this on a uh, or.	01:01:33
	Uh, time to help me out here at the High, uh.	01:01:36
	That's one of the effects that we have to visit more often.	01:01:40
	Just to check for you now.	01:01:42
	May not even be high priority. There we go.	01:01:47
	Yeah, yeah.	01:01:51
	No, that's what we were just saying. We haven't.	01:01:54
	We've talked about both.	01:01:56
	Yeah, that's how the rec center is in catch on. It's.	01:01:59
	Fantastic, yeah.	01:02:01
	Yeah.	01:02:03
	Last time.	01:02:05
	Done a pool that had.	01:02:06
	Pouring in it, I mean.	01:02:07
	Not a yeah. So regardless, uh.	01:02:09
	The city will have to put this on a high priority insu uh, inspection list for us, uh, for the city to add the inspections more	01:02:12
	often.	01:02:15
	On this SO.	01:02:19
	What happened to what happened to the taxi? Uh, types of chemical?	01:02:21
	Uh, the quantities and etcetera. So, and then of course like that, you know, the procedures of how it's being done.	01:02:25
	And that's, that's not an city requirement, that's a safe requirement for us.	01:02:30
	More of a procedure on questionnaire.	01:02:34
	Is that?	01:02:35
	Type plan or do you wanna see that in the building? I'd be building permit?	01:02:37
	OK, Yeah.	01:02:40
	That's fine. Thank you.	01:02:41
	Yeah, that's, uh, that's, that's part of our MS-4.	01:02:42
	Uh, requirements.	01:02:45
	They're trying to get on on this too, maybe, umm.	01:02:46
	With the it's either Naseem or Brian's team if you guys just set up like an ongoing UMM inspection.	01:02:49
	Program or something like that.	01:02:57
	You know, I, I think that'd be helpful to whoever your staff is, can work with, uh, our staff.	01:02:58
	Will do.	01:03:06
	The last one piece of this one, the splash pad.	01:03:07
	The kids pool and the main pool.	01:03:11
	Are all tied to our district energy.	01:03:13
	Uh, system.	01:03:16
	So really they're intended just to kind of push into the shoulder sequence more.	01:03:17
	Keep them, you know they'll have one more.	01:03:22
	Nice.	01:03:24
	Of getting into the fall.	01:03:25
	So that's it. Almost.	01:03:27
	And then is there spending around the?	01:03:29
	This whole area so like for example.	01:03:33
	With the splash pad with that being more of a public option.	01:03:37
	But yeah, so you don't have to pay to go to the splash pad. You do have to pay to go to the other pool connected controls. Are you	01:03:41
	OK?	01:03:44
	Everything.	01:03:47
	Yeah, you have to go through this like.	01:03:49
	Yeah.	01:03:51
	Your darker boundary line is the fencing line, yeah.	01:03:52
	Same same thing with that I, I if we.	01:03:56
	Could get like a like the fencing design.	01:03:58
	Mm-hmm.	01:04:01
	That's that'd be great.	01:04:01
	Umm, OK. Any other questions or concerns from the committee?	01:04:06
	Stuff. OK.	01:04:12
	Let's go ahead and move on to the site plan application for.	01:04:15
	Item 5.7. Vineyard Gateway Phase 2B.	01:04:20
	OK, yeah, we do have Rachel online as well.	01:04:23
	For this, Rachel, are you wanting to share your screen?	01:04:26
	Yeah, I can see.	01:04:29
	OK. And then we also do have.	01:04:30
	Umm Ted and Steve with the applicant online as well to answer any questions.	01:04:33
	OK so this is a project of type 10 application for a multi tenant.	01:04:41
	Building just for general detail.	01:04:46
	It can be just north of the 20.	01:04:48
	And here's the site plan.	01:04:52
	They have.	01:04:54
	54 parking spaces.	01:04:56
	Which is over.	01:04:58
	I believe it was 34 that were required.	01:05:00
	And they have.	01:05:04
	2 by text.	01:05:05
	And there's a landscaping.	01:05:06
	The street trains are going to be ones that are existing. They are not going to be removing those, but they'll be adding.	01:05:11
	Extra shrubs on last week.	01:05:17
	Rachel. Rachel.	01:05:20
	Could could you show, could you show a a context map really quick? Umm or even just like.	01:05:23
	Umm, like the public base map? It's just to show exactly where the parcels are for the DRC.	01:05:28
	Perfect.	01:05:33
	Yes.	01:05:34
	So.	01:05:36
	Gonna be right here.	01:05:38
	For the spread started.	01:05:41
	OK.	01:05:42
	Thank you.	01:05:43
	Yep.	01:05:45
	Yeah. So in in between, let's see. I think it's just north of.	01:05:48
	Is that where we're at?	01:05:55
	Yes, it's gonna be who's sending.	01:05:58
	Right here.	01:06:00
	Because the site here's, uh, the tree you can see.	01:06:02
	Umm Ariana.	01:06:05
	OK.	01:06:07
	OK. Thank you.	01:06:09
	Yeah, we can sit.	01:06:12
	OK.	01:06:13
	OK. And.	01:06:15
	Here's the floor plan. There's going to be 7.	01:06:16
	Retail stores.	01:06:19
	And is the elevation.	01:06:24
	Uh, they, they have a Phase 1 of this project.	01:06:29
	Is is essentially.	01:06:32
	The same building as phase one.	01:06:35
	And then she goes back and.	01:06:38
	It's across from.	01:06:42
	The Vineyard.	01:06:43
	But where the community development is?	01:06:45
	So this is the.	01:06:57
	Of the process. OK, so it's it's.	01:06:59
	Gonna kinda match the same type of uh, material.	01:07:02
	Umm, and like architectural design as as.	01:07:05
	Yes, similar projects. And if they said it's going to be the same material, same floor plan.	01:07:08
	OK.	01:07:14
	Same height and everything.	01:07:15
	And this is the pro.	01:07:18
	Material or.	01:07:20
	Is this, uh, is this Steve, Steve Pruitt? Is, is he the developer on this one?	01:07:21
	Yes, and he's online too if you would have any questions for him.	01:07:26
	Go back to.	01:07:39
	Did you guys have any questions for me or was approved?	01:07:43
	Can you go to the landscaping plan?	01:07:48
	OK, say that again.	01:07:50
	Great. I, I I don't have any questions. I don't know if you guys do.	01:08:04
	OK.	01:08:07
	One of them and and meets just like it meets like the minimum parking requirements. You, you, you've looked at that, but umm,	01:08:11
	bicycle racks, that kind of stuff.	01:08:15
	Yeah, and so the the bicycle rack, umm.	01:08:19
	There's 2 bike racks.	01:08:24
	Hit me.	01:08:26
	It it needs all the minimum requirements with the zoom code.	01:08:27
	I know in the past we've had some, uh, utility issues. I think it was with like, like what Wendy's are, are we doing with like	01:08:31
	waters to or stormwater?	01:08:34
	Umm, those those elements.	01:08:38
	You know a water line was taken through the site with the previous phase.	01:08:40
	Umm, uh, there's a sewer line that runs up.	01:08:44
	Uh, behind.	01:08:48
	Where this building is located?	01:08:50
	That that was already installed on the previous page as well.	01:08:52
	OK, we have these stamps on top of those.	01:08:54
	Done. And there are easements overdoses.	01:08:57
	Love you too late as well.	01:08:59
	So we have a 10 foot.	01:09:01
	Easement over the water line.	01:09:03
	A 20 foot easement.	01:09:05
	Uh, that income is uh.	01:09:06
	The sewer line.	01:09:09
	Behind the building.	01:09:10
	Umm.	01:09:12
	That's mostly for the sewer, but it's a 20 foot unit for the sewer.	01:09:13
	10 foot over the water line.	01:09:17
	And then access from Geneva Rd. This is umm.	01:09:20
	I I think we, we talked a little bit about that context. Is this coming?	01:09:24
	From like the the Wendy's access or is that the charity? Because we have the easements, All right, umm, worked out. So there's not	01:09:28
	gonna be any issues.	01:09:32
	In the future if we if the proper sells.	01:09:37
	Umm, we There is no access.	01:09:40
	Over that shared access I I don't believe.	01:09:43
	Yeah, yeah. A few questions. I think that's something we.	01:09:46
	That would be something that we would want to ensure that yeah, recorded.	01:09:49
	Uh, regardless of, uh, regardless of the property owners.	01:09:52
	Yeah, they're separate parcels definitely what's gonna a shared access is that I.	01:09:56
	Steve, if you're if you're able to.	01:10:00
	To to kind of talk talked about umm.	01:10:02
	We, yeah, we definitely like a shared access to that.	01:10:05
	Yeah, well, that's the thing. That's a requirement.	01:10:16
	Sorry, See we.	01:10:18
	If you're if you're able to.	01:10:19
	To kind of speak to that we.	01:10:21
	Umm what? What are your thoughts?	01:10:23
	Team.com, I can reach out to him and talk to someone.	01:10:29
	Hmm. Well, yeah, I mean, it's it's gonna be a requirement because I mean it, it comes.	01:10:33
	But maybe not able to.	01:10:37
	It is my work. This is Ted Dieter.	01:10:39
	Yeah, engineering talking.	01:10:43
	Umm, just one thought there.	01:10:45
	Right now.	01:10:47
	The.	01:10:48
	Add and the future path in the north. They're all in a single lot.	01:10:50
	So I don't think there's any step.	01:10:54
	Exploration of property in this.	01:10:57
	All right, so at least not that I'm aware of.	01:10:58
	So I don't know who that share the event would be between.	01:11:01
	It would be what?	01:11:05
	Probably it'll be between.	01:11:06
	Like a property owners and like.	01:11:09
	Something I recorded as if the if the properties have are are over subdivide.	01:11:11
	That's fairly fine.	01:11:16
	OK, can you hear me now?	01:11:17
	Yeah, we can hear you.	01:11:20
	OK, awesome. Sorry, I don't know what's going on there. Umm, yeah. So I mean it, it had just.	01:11:22
	That it It's one.	01:11:26
	As one parcel.	01:11:27
	Umm, you know I.	01:11:29
	It's same ownership group, you know, I, I, I guess.	01:11:31
	Theoretically.	01:11:34
	You know, down the line.	01:11:35
	You know one of these were to be parceled off and sold, which is not.	01:11:36
	Current tension, but.	01:11:41
	If, if for some reason it was, then yeah, we would.	01:11:42
	We certainly have to kind of.	01:11:45
	Create some sort of.	01:11:46
	Access, you know, easement agreement at that juncture.	01:11:47
	Umm, but.	01:11:51
	Umm, and plan now.	01:11:51
	You know the the same in one.	01:11:54
	Grow that as the entirety of the size that.	01:11:56
	We're moving forward with what's not meaning one on that drag lane.	01:12:02
	Catch you so.	01:12:05
	OK.	01:12:08
	Umm, and then.	01:12:09
	We're, we're gonna, we're gonna get a bunch of questions from our communications team. Are you guys, do you have any, uh, pre	01:12:11
	leases or any businesses that you'd be able to, to, to share with us or active businesses like what, what type of information	01:12:15
	would you be able to provide us?	01:12:20
	Umm, honestly, it's the same, you know, we, we.	01:12:26
	We've gotten uh.	01:12:29
	Multiple merchants that reached out to us.	01:12:31
	You know, basically kind of.	01:12:33
	To the page one building we have out there.	01:12:35
	Umm, you know some.	01:12:37
	Some some cat uses some.	01:12:39
	Uh, fairchent usage umm.	01:12:42
	Uh, quick service.	01:12:45
	Uh, restaurant uses.	01:12:46
	Umm, so yeah, kind of, you know, the gamut that.	01:12:49
	You know expect from a multi tenant.	01:12:53
	You know, try like this I mean.	01:12:56
	Uh, well, someone said it reached out to us with interests have.	01:12:58
	You know said that.	01:13:01
	You know that you're interested in.	01:13:03
	And thean Geneva and.	01:13:05
	And with, uh, a lot of the genetic single use pad users that, that kind of French Geneva.	01:13:07
	Umm, this is one of the.	01:13:12
	These phosphorus Tennessee and a multi tenant, you know, building concept that would work for their concept.	01:13:14
	Umm, so yeah, it's, it's gonna be a similar tenant.	01:13:20
	You know, use mixed-use.	01:13:24
	Uh, that we have in.	01:13:28
	Phase one in terms of.	01:13:29
	Types of merchants and.	01:13:31
	Product so.	01:13:33
	Will this building be sprinkled?	01:13:37
	Umm, similar to the phase one?	01:13:39
	Building.	01:13:41
	Fire sprinkler system.	01:13:43
	Yes.	01:13:45
	OK.	01:13:46
	Umm, I'm trying to remember back. I tried to look it up.	01:13:47
	Umm, I think the Wendy's hydrant.	01:13:50
	Is.	01:13:52
	Further down, umm, just keep that in mind with the 100 foot.	01:13:54
	Distance from your FTC to the.	01:13:58
	To a hydrant.	01:14:01
	Got it.	01:14:04
	I believe they have a hydrant kind of on the north.	01:14:06
	East corner of the Windy.	01:14:09
	Area.	01:14:12
	And then there's another hydrant that.	01:14:12
	Kind of on the northeast of the.	01:14:15
	Lot well.	01:14:17
	Yeah, we do have another one on the North End, closer to O'Reilly.	01:14:20
	Well, actually.	01:14:23
	Umm, just a quick question.	01:14:25
	Is uh.	01:14:27
	The grease trap.	01:14:29
	That was installed. It cannot be used through the whole building, so there.	01:14:30
	Like multiple like restaurants would use it or is the idea of just having like a one restaurant use that one reset?	01:14:34
	Uh, no, we yeah, we would have.	01:14:44
	Similar to the UMM.	01:14:46
	Identical to phase one building which is a common interceptor.	01:14:47
	Umm. That way we're not having to, you know?	01:14:51
	Branch out you know and have.	01:14:54
	You know, multiple grease traps for one Belgium so.	01:14:57
	Umm, yes, the plan is to have one.	01:15:01
	Uh, common grace interceptor and service that you know, family that we do.	01:15:03
	Uh, building sales.	01:15:08
	OK.	01:15:10
	Another thing that was.	01:15:11
	Uh also brought up is uh in our in our code.	01:15:12
	Uh, it shows that.	01:15:16
	Parking stalls that button up against each other should be 20 foot in length.	01:15:17
	Uh, these ones are each.	01:15:22
	Team feet.	01:15:23
	So we were we were wondering if.	01:15:26
	That.	01:15:28
	That well, these these parks and.	01:15:29
	Stocks can be shifted up.	01:15:31
	Uh, to allow for 20 foot?	01:15:33
	The the section, the section of parking in the middle, those can stay.	01:15:37
	Day of 18.	01:15:41
	Because they there's that.	01:15:42
	Uh, sidewalk in between them?	01:15:45
	As long as that sidewalk is wide, still wide enough.	01:15:49
	Yeah, for ADA, so you're, yeah, you're allowed I think a 2 foot overlap and you still gotta meet, meet the uh.	01:15:52
	In between that.	01:15:59
	So.	01:16:00
	Yeah, good. That's good catch.	01:16:01
	Patrick.	01:16:02
	Uh, 20 foot wherever you don't have a a landscape overlap.	01:16:03
	So sorry, which section are you? Are you looking, which Bank of college are you looking at in regards to 20 feet versus 18? Oh,	01:16:10
	the ones in the middle.	01:16:13
	So all your, all the ones in the middle.	01:16:17
	Take a look, uh, review, review your parking stall desk.	01:16:20
	And then you should have uh.	01:16:23
	20 feet of uh parking if you like to have.	01:16:25
	Organism, Patrick says you have.	01:16:28
	A landscape strip that you can encroach. YTC cool if you don't.	01:16:31
	Make sure that you're not any closer into any kind of ADA pathways.	01:16:34
	OK, uh, yeah, we'll have to.	01:16:40
	Take a question what you have so.	01:16:41
	OK. Any questions or?	01:16:49
	Further concerns Recommendations from the committee.	01:16:52
	OK.	01:16:58
	Thanks Kash and Rachel, and.	01:16:59
	Others have put in a lot of work for this.	01:17:00
	There's nothing else.	01:17:03
	Then we'll go ahead and adjourn.	01:17:04