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| All right. Thank you so much for joining us tonight. Today is June 25th. | 00:01:00 | |
| 2025 the time is. | 00:01:05 | |
| 605 and we're going to start our Redevelopment Board agency meeting. | 00:01:08 | |
| We will start out with an invocation in the Pledge of Allegiance by Councilmember Clawson. | 00:01:12 | |
| And then we will move on to our agenda. | 00:01:17 | |
| Our Father in heaven, we're grateful that we can be gathered. | 00:01:22 | |
| Evening as a. | 00:01:26 | |
| City to discuss the business of the city and. | 00:01:27 | |
| We ask that we can be mindful of the. | 00:01:29 | |
| As we have spirited discussions. | 00:01:33 | |
| And this we pray in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen. | 00:01:36 | |
| Hey, man. | 00:01:39 | |
| All right. | 00:01:41 | |
| I pledge allegiance to the flag. | 00:01:44 | |
| The United States of America. | 00:01:47 | |
| And the scenery public for which it. | 00:01:49 | |
| One nation under God. | 00:01:52 | |
| Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. | 00:01:54 | |
| All right. On our agenda today, we have some minutes from our last meeting. | 00:02:03 | |
| I just need a motion to approve those. | 00:02:09 | |
| Minutes. They're on our consent agenda. | 00:02:13 | |
| So moved. All right. I have our first by Brett. Can I get a second? | 00:02:20 | |
| Second. Second by Sarah. All in favor. | 00:02:24 | |
| Aye. | 00:02:27 | |
| Aye. | 00:02:29 | |
| That passed. | 00:02:30 | |
| That brings us right into our public hearing. | 00:02:31 | |
| Amending the Vineyard RDA fiscal year 2024-2025 budget. | 00:02:33 | |
| Amendment Resolution U2024-03 in our RDA Director, Josh Daniels will. | 00:02:39 | |
| Present this item. | 00:02:45 | |
| So this item is the amended. | 00:02:52 | |
| Fiscal year budget. | 00:02:54 | |
| So by the end of the fiscal year, which ends at. | 00:02:55 | |
| In June 30th. | 00:02:58 | |
| We always sort of do one final amendment. | 00:03:00 | |
| To show some of the actual. | 00:03:04 | |
| Changes that occurred during the year. | 00:03:07 | |
| Let me bring up our budget document. | 00:03:10 | |
| There aren't significant changes. We've had a couple other. | 00:03:15 | |
| Amendments. Umm. | 00:03:18 | |
| While you are waiting, I'm going to go ahead and put us into a public hearing. Can I get a motion to go into a public hearing? | 00:03:33 | |
| Thank you, Marty. Can I get a second? | 00:03:39 | |
| 2nd, thank you, Brett. All in favor. | 00:03:42 | |
| Aye. | 00:03:44 | |
| Caring. | 00:03:46 | |
| And the the budget schedule for this amended budget is also. | 00:04:19 | |
| In the. | 00:04:23 | |
| In the agenda as an exhibit. | 00:04:24 | |
| Josh, are you pulling anything up or should we leave? | 00:04:29 | |
| I'm trying to pull up the the budget schedule. | 00:04:34 | |
| OK. | 00:04:37 | |
| Trying to get this thing down. | 00:04:43 | |
| Watch the. | 00:04:45 | |
| There we go. | 00:05:06 | |
| Actually, there we go. | 00:05:26 | |
| OK. | 00:05:30 | |
| All right. Thank you. So this is the. | 00:05:34 | |
| Fiscal year ending 2025. | 00:05:36 | |
| Final budget, you know. | 00:05:39 | |
| And this the budget amendment would adopt. | 00:05:41 | |
| These final numbers. | 00:05:44 | |
| There wasn't any changes to the property tax increment revenue. | 00:05:45 | |
| There were some changes with the way that we characterize the fund balance. | 00:05:49 | |
| And and then the. | 00:05:53 | |
| The expenses are the same, it's just. | 00:05:58 | |
| Really the. | 00:06:01 | |
| The way the fund balance. | 00:06:02 | |
| And the grant revenue? | 00:06:04 | |
| Are being accounted. | 00:06:05 | |
| OK. | 00:06:08 | |
| Are there any questions or? | 00:06:10 | |
| Comments from the public today. | 00:06:12 | |
| That we can hear. | 00:06:15 | |
| Remember to come up to the podium, state your name and you have two minutes. | 00:06:21 | |
| Which panel will put on the screen for you? | 00:06:25 | |
| My name is John Barrick. I am here to talk about the letter you received from the State Auditor's office last week that you | 00:06:28 | |
| responded to. | 00:06:32 | |
| I am an ASD taxpayer, Mr. Bear. | 00:06:37 | |
| Does this specific item relate to? | 00:06:40 | |
| Document that we're looking at right now, I believe the letter from the state auditor asked you to restate your financial | 00:06:45 | |
| statements, including this year. | 00:06:48 | |
| So I think it does right, OK. | 00:06:52 | |
| Is that not? | 00:06:54 | |
| OK. I just wanted to make sure that what you were talking about was for this item so that we could. | 00:06:55 | |
| Make sure that we're addressing. | 00:07:00 | |
| What was on the table? Well, I think I am. I mean you're talking about your fiscal year budget and you gave out tax increment and | 00:07:02 | |
| I think that. | 00:07:05 | |
| As the state auditor directed you with, I think I was probably right that T20009-01 requires that you have the taxing entity | 00:07:09 | |
| committee to meet in any year in which you get tax increment, which it includes last year. | 00:07:15 | |
| And you haven't done that yet. | 00:07:22 | |
| So that probably puts you outside the law. | 00:07:23 | |
| Is that your comment? | 00:07:27 | |
| Do you have any other questions? That's not my comment, I'm just wondering if you think it's a. | 00:07:28 | |
| Appropriate to discuss this now or you want me to wait till the next? I don't know if you feel this is. I wanted to make sure it | 00:07:32 | |
| was on the right agenda item. | 00:07:35 | |
| Please continue. | 00:07:38 | |
| Well, according to the auditor, state auditor, Vineyard failed to report more than 35 million in transactions from 2018 to 2025. | 00:07:41 | |
| And you're the board that approved that? | 00:07:46 | |
| So those payments included substantially and potentially concealed sums to developers. | 00:07:51 | |
| Involved in Utah City and other RDA projects. | 00:07:57 | |
| This is not a clerical error. | 00:08:00 | |
| This is a failure of basic public accountability. | 00:08:02 | |
| That is a failure of basic. | 00:08:05 | |
| Public accountability, like I mentioned, it raises questions about whether these funds were spent properly, transparently and in | 00:08:07 | |
| the public interest. | 00:08:11 | |
| And I'm wondering what you're going to do about it. | 00:08:14 | |
| I would like you to publish a full list of all developers and businesses who received RDA funds. | 00:08:17 | |
| In 2025 and in the prior seven years that you're required to restate. | 00:08:22 | |
| I would like to know their names. | 00:08:26 | |
| Who received them? Broken down by year? | 00:08:28 | |
| I would like you to disclose the name of all city employees and officials. | 00:08:31 | |
| Who involved were involved in failing to report the transactions? | 00:08:35 | |
| And if anyone will be disciplined? | 00:08:39 | |
| Maybe just for a few seconds because I interact with some of this time. | 00:08:47 | |
| Go ahead, I'm wondering. | 00:08:53 | |
| What you're going to do to reduce the unilateral spending threshold that you were criticized from by the state auditor? | 00:08:56 | |
| Vineyards RDA was created to clean up Geneva Steel the contamination. | 00:09:02 | |
| Not to become a vehicle for secret developer payments. | 00:09:06 | |
| Payments and unchecked. | 00:09:09 | |
| Discretion. It's not to steal. | 00:09:11 | |
| Money from schoolchildren. | 00:09:14 | |
| And I believe all of those things have been. | 00:09:15 | |
| Done as. | 00:09:17 | |
| Mr. Holdaway has told you. | 00:09:18 | |
| So I'd like to know what you would like to do about it. Thank you. | 00:09:20 | |
| Thank you for your comment. | 00:09:25 | |
| Hi Daria Evans, Villas Vineyard resident. Thank you for letting me. | 00:09:32 | |
| Ask question. | 00:09:37 | |
| I'm on my Internet vineyard portal. | 00:09:39 | |
| Clerk com. | 00:09:42 | |
| And. | 00:09:44 | |
| My information says the fiscal impact. | 00:09:46 | |
| It's different from what's up there, so I want to know what is different. | 00:09:49 | |
| Mine says the RDA fund has $12,226,269. | 00:09:54 | |
| With revenues of 24. | 00:10:00 | |
| 1,061,739 Fund balance appropriation. | 00:10:04 | |
| With the total expenditure and transfer out of 36,288,000. | 00:10:09 | |
| And $8 so I would like to have an explanation. | 00:10:15 | |
| Of why what was on the Internet is different from here. | 00:10:20 | |
| Thank you very much. | 00:10:23 | |
| Thanks, Dia. | 00:10:26 | |
| Any other comments? | 00:10:34 | |
| So all right, seeing that there are none, we'll go ahead and. | 00:10:37 | |
| Exit the public hearing. | 00:10:41 | |
| You need a motion to go out of the public hearing. | 00:10:43 | |
| So moved all right, add a first by Marty. Can I get a second? | 00:10:46 | |
| 2nd. | 00:10:50 | |
| Second by Brett all in. | 00:10:51 | |
| Aye, all right. We're now out of the public hearing. | 00:10:53 | |
| Aye, all right. | 00:10:56 | |
| Board, does you have any questions? | 00:10:58 | |
| Do we want to start with questions from the board? Is there anything that you would like to address so far? | 00:11:02 | |
| Before questions from the board. | 00:11:06 | |
| We you. | 00:11:08 | |
| Will you explain to me the grant revenue change versus the? | 00:11:11 | |
| Which is why the numbers were moved. | 00:11:16 | |
| Yeah, I believe that has to do with. | 00:11:18 | |
| The Rail Rail grant. | 00:11:21 | |
| Maybe, yeah. | 00:11:24 | |
| That's that's the rail grant. | 00:11:25 | |
| So for rail realignment? | 00:11:28 | |
| For Union Pacific. | 00:11:30 | |
| We just didn't receive the same amount of grant revenue for this particular year that we thought we would for that project. | 00:11:33 | |
| OK. Any other questions from the board? | 00:11:40 | |
| All right. We will be discussing the audit findings. | 00:11:48 | |
| And you'll have more answers in the next meeting. So I just wanted to give you a heads up on that. | 00:11:51 | |
| All right at this point. | 00:11:57 | |
| Can I get a motion? | 00:11:59 | |
| I move to adopt resolution U2025-03. | 00:12:09 | |
| The Vineyard RDA, fiscal year 20. | 00:12:14 | |
| 2025 budget amendment as presented by staff. | 00:12:17 | |
| Excellent. We have a first price, Sarah. | 00:12:20 | |
| OK. Did you say 03 or 04? | 00:12:22 | |
| Right here. | 00:12:27 | |
| OK. | 00:12:28 | |
| Sorry, that's OK. | 00:12:31 | |
| Thank you. | 00:12:33 | |
| Can I get a second? | 00:12:35 | |
| 2nd. | 00:12:38 | |
| All right, a second by Marty. | 00:12:39 | |
| I'm going to do this by roll call. | 00:12:41 | |
| Say no, Pratt. | 00:12:42 | |
| Aye, aye, Marty. | 00:12:45 | |
| Aye, Sarah, aye. | 00:12:47 | |
| Right. | 00:12:48 | |
| Carried. Let's go ahead and move on to. | 00:12:50 | |
| 4.4 Discussion and action final fiscal year 20252026 RDA budget. | 00:12:53 | |
| Resolution U202504. | 00:13:00 | |
| Go ahead, Josh. | 00:13:04 | |
| Great. So this is next year's budget, fiscal year 2026. This is the budget schedule. | 00:13:05 | |
| This, of course, you have the tentative budget hearing earlier. | 00:13:11 | |
| With the hearing. | 00:13:15 | |
| And this is the hearing item for. | 00:13:16 | |
| For the well, sorry, they won't be hearing for this one. | 00:13:21 | |
| This is discussion in action. | 00:13:23 | |
| Already had a budget hearing. | 00:13:24 | |
| The hearings take place before the action. | 00:13:26 | |
| Here that I've got up on the screen is the fiscal year 26 budget. | 00:13:29 | |
| So next year. | 00:13:34 | |
| I think that might have been. | 00:13:35 | |
| The comment about the discrepancy that might have been just looking at one year versus the other, so there's. | 00:13:37 | |
| Just to be clear, there's two different budgets on today's agenda. | 00:13:42 | |
| There's the final budget for the year that's ending right now, and now this is next year's budget. So this was for fiscal year 26. | 00:13:45 | |
| So here's the schedule. | 00:13:54 | |
| As we talked about during. | 00:13:55 | |
| Tentative budget discussions. | 00:13:57 | |
| We're anticipating an increase in tax increment revenue because of the triggering of additional. | 00:13:59 | |
| Parcels that are. | 00:14:05 | |
| Are now finished developing that you. | 00:14:06 | |
| I triggered the tax increment collection earlier. | 00:14:08 | |
| And so. | 00:14:12 | |
| Where the biggest change is. | 00:14:14 | |
| Year over year are going to come from. | 00:14:16 | |
| All right, Ward, are there any questions? | 00:14:21 | |
| Do you have a question? | 00:15:01 | |
| Why don't you just come up? We might not be able to answer it tonight, but go ahead and make your comment. | 00:15:03 | |
| Tanya Evansville's Vineyard resident. | 00:15:11 | |
| Again, this is another. | 00:15:14 | |
| Question of my numbers here on. | 00:15:17 | |
| On the civic portal are different from what is up on the screen. | 00:15:20 | |
| For 2026. | 00:15:24 | |
| The RDA fund is 22,000,937. | 00:15:25 | |
| $1500 in total revenues. | 00:15:29 | |
| With $11,271,091.00 for fund balance appropriation. | 00:15:32 | |
| And then $34,000,208. | 00:15:38 | |
| $208,591.00 in total expenditures and transfers out. | 00:15:41 | |
| I would like to know why this is different from that also. | 00:15:46 | |
| Thank you. | 00:15:50 | |
| Astoria. | 00:15:51 | |
| All right, Board, any questions? | 00:15:52 | |
| I'm not sure if that's is you're looking at the staff report. | 00:16:11 | |
| Or the budget schedule. | 00:16:14 | |
| Sorry, I know it's not a back and forth, but it would be helpful just to be on the same page. | 00:16:19 | |
| Right there. | 00:16:26 | |
| OK, And this is more information background. This is the official budget schedule. Why don't you have the same? | 00:16:28 | |
| Here here. | 00:16:36 | |
| That's my question. I think it would be more appropriate if we assist include exactly what you're going to show. | 00:16:39 | |
| So that's what we could be prepared. I don't ask some questions. | 00:16:45 | |
| When I was still right here. | 00:16:48 | |
| Just do you want to just explain it for the public? | 00:16:52 | |
| Schedule. | 00:16:58 | |
| All right. And that's the resolution points with the button schedule. That's a good question. | 00:16:59 | |
| OK, so I think the question was about some. | 00:17:05 | |
| Numbers that are summarized in the. | 00:17:09 | |
| The background report. | 00:17:11 | |
| And then they might not match just so just to be clear. | 00:17:13 | |
| If there's an error. | 00:17:16 | |
| We apologize for that. | 00:17:17 | |
| The the official budget is this schedule. | 00:17:18 | |
| So every time that we have budget actions on the agenda. | 00:17:22 | |
| There will always be. | 00:17:25 | |
| A resolution and a resolution is saying. | 00:17:27 | |
| That we're adopting the attached schedule. | 00:17:30 | |
| And then these are the budget schedules right here. So these are the official budget documents that are being adopted. So if | 00:17:33 | |
| there's any. | 00:17:35 | |
| Mismatching or typos or errors. | 00:17:39 | |
| In any other. | 00:17:42 | |
| Background. | 00:17:43 | |
| Information that the official. | 00:17:44 | |
| Budget schedule is is this schedule here? | 00:17:46 | |
| When we're done adopting the official, do you go back and update those? | 00:17:49 | |
| We could. | 00:17:54 | |
| Is there a reason why we wouldn't? | 00:17:55 | |
| It was a staff report. It's a summary of a staff report, so numbers may have changed so the original document so. | 00:17:59 | |
| What what we're saying is we would not update the staff report. | 00:18:06 | |
| The numbers have changed. These are official and of course we would post these publicly. | 00:18:09 | |
| I hope that's clear. | 00:18:13 | |
| OK. Sorry for the confusion on that. | 00:18:15 | |
| All right, Board, do you have any other questions? Otherwise I need a motion. | 00:18:17 | |
| Could you move your microphones closer to your mouth because I can't hear. | 00:18:25 | |
| These guys and I've even got my hearing aids. | 00:18:30 | |
| I thought I'm cranked up. I can't hear you guys. | 00:18:33 | |
| Can everybody move their microphones closer to them so that our audience can hear you a little bit better when you're speaking? | 00:18:38 | |
| Remember to pull it close. | 00:18:42 | |
| And speak into it. | 00:18:45 | |
| And you'll feel really loud. | 00:18:47 | |
| But then you know it's right. | 00:18:49 | |
| All right, Board, I need a motion or question. I move to adopt resolution new 2025-0 for the Vineyard RDA fiscal year 2025 Dash | 00:18:51 | |
| 2026 budget as presented by all right, we have a first by Marty. Can I get a second? | 00:18:59 | |
| Second Second by Sarah. | 00:19:07 | |
| The system by roll call. | 00:19:09 | |
| Jake. | 00:19:11 | |
| Aye. | 00:19:14 | |
| Aye, Sir, aye. | 00:19:16 | |
| All right, that brings us to the close of this meeting. Is there any? | 00:19:17 | |
| Anything else that we are discussing or? | 00:19:22 | |
| Do we need to go? | 00:19:25 | |
| To the next meeting to go into any closed sessions. | 00:19:27 | |
| I do have one informational item as a follow up from the last meeting I'd like to share. | 00:19:29 | |
| Thank you. So at the last meeting there was lengthy discussion about? | 00:19:33 | |
| Annual tech meetings, those commented again today. | 00:19:37 | |
| I just wanted to. | 00:19:41 | |
| Officially apologized to you and Mr. Barrack for issuing an. | 00:19:42 | |
| Erroneous memo that had errors in it. | 00:19:45 | |
| We did try to respond quickly to the questions raised several weeks ago about annual meetings. | 00:19:48 | |
| And in haste. | 00:19:53 | |
| Created. | 00:19:54 | |
| Some answers and and. | 00:19:55 | |
| There were errors. | 00:19:57 | |
| Didn't follow the normal process and get. | 00:19:59 | |
| Our attorneys review. | 00:20:02 | |
| Of that memo and so. | 00:20:04 | |
| We wanted to apologize for. | 00:20:05 | |
| Giving you that. | 00:20:07 | |
| Error and rescind the memo. We did some more research looking at 20 years of state code. | 00:20:08 | |
| What we found was that. | 00:20:15 | |
| In 2009, when the Taxing Entity Committee was first formed. | 00:20:17 | |
| State law had a requirement the taxing entity committees. | 00:20:21 | |
| Meet annually for informational purposes. | 00:20:24 | |
| And that's why that. | 00:20:27 | |
| Language was in the founding resolution. | 00:20:28 | |
| State law was then changed in 2011 to create an option for RDA's to issue. | 00:20:31 | |
| Annual informational reports. | 00:20:36 | |
| Instead of having meetings. | 00:20:38 | |
| And our understanding is that's why. | 00:20:40 | |
| There weren't annual meetings that took place after the last. | 00:20:43 | |
| Official tech meeting in 2011. | 00:20:47 | |
| So the RDA issued annual reports. | 00:20:49 | |
| That would be filed with the county auditor starting in 2012. | 00:20:52 | |
| That continued until. | 00:20:56 | |
| 2021 Those reports are available online currently to the public on the county auditors website. | 00:20:58 | |
| And then? | 00:21:05 | |
| More recently in. | 00:21:06 | |
| About 2020 they changed the law again. | 00:21:07 | |
| Requiring Rdas to issue annual. | 00:21:10 | |
| Informational data reports to the Governor's Office of Economic Opportunity. | 00:21:12 | |
| Those reports are also online. There's a data portal. | 00:21:16 | |
| On the Go EO website. | 00:21:20 | |
| Where you can see the last three or four years of those reports. | 00:21:22 | |
| Ports since that began in 2022. | 00:21:25 | |
| And by the way, working on. | 00:21:28 | |
| An RDA section of the city website where all those reports will also be. | 00:21:30 | |
| Listed and linked. | 00:21:35 | |
| But they are publicly available now and the county auditor's website. | 00:21:36 | |
| And on the Governor's Office of Economic Opportunity website. So. | 00:21:39 | |
| I want to rescind that memo that was made in error. We wanted to be hasty in responding to Mr. Baird's questions. | 00:21:42 | |
| We now have more information, just wanted to apologize for that. | 00:21:48 | |
| OK. Thank you. | 00:21:52 | |
| Thank you for your question and for that clarity. | 00:21:54 | |
| I'm going to adjourn this meeting and then we will. | 00:21:59 | |
| Start our next meeting in a few minutes, as soon as we. | 00:22:03 | |
| Switch over the recording. | 00:22:06 | |
| Second meeting is adjourned. | 00:22:10 |