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| All right. Welcome This evening, today is August. | 00:00:01 | |
| 20/6/2025, and the time is. | 00:00:13 | |
| 6:00 We're going to go ahead and start our special session of the City Council. | 00:00:17 | |
| We'll start with our Pledge of Allegiance and invocation by council members. | 00:00:22 | |
| And woman. | 00:00:26 | |
| Dear Father in heaven, we come ready at the beginning of this meeting and. | 00:00:30 | |
| Ask for Thy Spirit be with us, that Thou will guide us and direct us in all that we do and all that we stay. | 00:00:34 | |
| Will you pray that that will help us to strive? | 00:00:39 | |
| Bring peace and harmony into our city and. | 00:00:42 | |
| We are so grateful for all the people. | 00:00:45 | |
| That work here, and their integrity and their hard work and. | 00:00:47 | |
| Other things that they do to make our city beautiful and. | 00:00:51 | |
| Take good care of us and take good care of it. | 00:00:54 | |
| We are grateful for. | 00:00:57 | |
| My guidance and inspiration and all we do and pray that to be with us again. We say these things in the sacred name of Jesus | 00:01:01 | |
| Christ, Amen. | 00:01:04 | |
| Amen. All right. | 00:01:08 | |
| The United States of America. | 00:01:10 | |
| And to the Republic for which it stands. | 00:01:18 | |
| One nation under God. | 00:01:21 | |
| With liberty and justice for all. | 00:01:23 | |
| All right, we'll go ahead and start out with some presentations. | 00:01:30 | |
| To get the Council a little bit. | 00:01:34 | |
| Up to date on some of the. | 00:01:35 | |
| Things. | 00:01:37 | |
| Staff and city are working on. | 00:01:38 | |
| Let's start with our Vineyard City utility billing policy and procedure. | 00:01:40 | |
| Manual Maria is going to present that to us. | 00:01:44 | |
| Yeah, so. | 00:01:48 | |
| Really this is just a couple things that we wanted to highlight we've. | 00:01:49 | |
| Um, worked on doing some updates I've kind of gone through. | 00:01:53 | |
| Our normal procedure. | 00:01:57 | |
| And in doing that, I wanted to create a policy manual just for anybody coming in later on. | 00:01:59 | |
| Or if anybody ever has any questions so. | 00:02:04 | |
| As long with that. | 00:02:07 | |
| I've added some new updates. | 00:02:08 | |
| That I kind of just wanted to prevent to everybody. | 00:02:10 | |
| For the most part, it's all going to be pretty standard. The new things that we've added is. | 00:02:15 | |
| For late payments or late fees. | 00:02:19 | |
| Normally how it was done, it was one late fee waived. | 00:02:23 | |
| Per account, per the time that the account has been opened. | 00:02:27 | |
| After talking to. | 00:02:31 | |
| Our accountant and treasurer, we decided to give that a little change. | 00:02:33 | |
| So we'll now be able to get one waive late fee per year per account. | 00:02:36 | |
| Along with that. | 00:02:41 | |
| We have added. | 00:02:43 | |
| A payment plan option. | 00:02:47 | |
| So if there are people going through any type of financial hardship. | 00:02:48 | |
| There is an option for them to get a payment plan. It's a three month payment plan. | 00:02:52 | |
| But it's something that has to be approved by the utility billing department. | 00:02:56 | |
| Along with. | 00:03:00 | |
| That week, take into consideration things such as. | 00:03:01 | |
| Payment history. | 00:03:04 | |
| As well as financial hardship, things like that. | 00:03:07 | |
| And that's just supposed to make easier increase for some reason somebody does have. | 00:03:09 | |
| A default on their bill. We don't want to try to shut people off. That's not something we ever want to do. | 00:03:13 | |
| So we want to give options to people to try to maintain their accounts in good standing. | 00:03:17 | |
| That's pretty much it for the most part. Like I said, most of it's going to be pretty straightforward. | 00:03:22 | |
| Along with that. | 00:03:26 | |
| We are going to do an increase that also discussed later on in the consolidated fee schedule update. | 00:03:28 | |
| For the utility application fee. | 00:03:33 | |
| We're wanting to update from 20 to 25. | 00:03:35 | |
| And that's just to cover the fact that we're going to start doing those wavelength fees every year. | 00:03:38 | |
| But that also does get. | 00:03:42 | |
| Waived. The application fee does get waived. | 00:03:45 | |
| If the applicant chooses to sign up for direct payments through the city. | 00:03:49 | |
| That's pretty much it. | 00:03:54 | |
| Any questions? | 00:03:56 | |
| OK. There is no action on this tonight. Thank you and thank you for accounting for. | 00:03:59 | |
| The good work that you do to help people. | 00:04:03 | |
| Kind of stay in those plans and. | 00:04:06 | |
| Putting it into our formal policies, yes. | 00:04:08 | |
| Thanks, Maria, And. | 00:04:12 | |
| You will have another update for us, Yeah, with the Neighborhood Services update. | 00:04:13 | |
| So for that I also do neighborhood services. | 00:04:17 | |
| I am the coordinator for Neighborhood Services. | 00:04:21 | |
| And I just want to do a little update over a couple things. | 00:04:23 | |
| So far this year I've met with several of the 20 management companies. | 00:04:26 | |
| I have attended a couple HOA board meetings. | 00:04:30 | |
| But it's something I'm trying to do. | 00:04:33 | |
| Is not only to meet with the management companies, but as well as the board. So if there are any people who are here who would | 00:04:35 | |
| like me to attend their board meetings. | 00:04:38 | |
| You can always reach out. | 00:04:42 | |
| Or have your HOA management reach out to me. | 00:04:43 | |
| Um, I have also created a city events newsletter for the HOA's as well as the apartments. | 00:04:47 | |
| And this is just to highlight our major events. | 00:04:52 | |
| Just because for the most part. | 00:04:55 | |
| Most people in HOA's and apartments don't get the city newsletter because they're not on our. | 00:04:56 | |
| Utility billing. | 00:05:01 | |
| They're all done through a master account. | 00:05:02 | |
| So this is sent out to the H20 management companies and they disperse it to their own tenants. | 00:05:05 | |
| The beginning of this year and this is something I will continue to do. | 00:05:09 | |
| I have met with the developers of all the open lands or have reached out to them through e-mail. | 00:05:13 | |
| And discussed landscaping maintenance schedules as well as. | 00:05:18 | |
| Expectations for how we want them to maintain their areas. | 00:05:22 | |
| As well as just following up continuously with most of them. | 00:05:26 | |
| Currently. Right now. | 00:05:31 | |
| I am working towards getting certified as a Property Maintenance and Housing inspector. | 00:05:33 | |
| That will later lead to me potentially getting certified as a Code enforcement officer. | 00:05:37 | |
| That is kind of going with the next thing. | 00:05:42 | |
| Which is basically over the last. | 00:05:45 | |
| Year to year and. | 00:05:47 | |
| Cash and I. | 00:05:49 | |
| The senior planner cash. | 00:05:51 | |
| Pansy have been developing a rental program. | 00:05:52 | |
| This would require all property owners who have rentals. | 00:05:55 | |
| To obtain a business license. | 00:05:59 | |
| This program aims to improve. | 00:06:01 | |
| Property maintenance as well as help with things such as occupancy. | 00:06:03 | |
| Parking, we are working on the final details of that. | 00:06:08 | |
| And that's something that we're hoping to bring to council in the next couple months. | 00:06:11 | |
| But that's pretty much. | 00:06:15 | |
| That's great. You were mentioning that you were. | 00:06:17 | |
| Attending the HLA. | 00:06:20 | |
| Groups meetings themselves. | 00:06:23 | |
| How has it been with the quarterly meetings? | 00:06:25 | |
| Having them come to us, have they been attending? | 00:06:27 | |
| Those ones are always going to be hard to get attendance for just because they. | 00:06:30 | |
| I'll have different schedules. It's very hard to get on, so that's why I've kind of tried to. | 00:06:33 | |
| Geared towards doing one on ones with management. | 00:06:37 | |
| And then trying to. | 00:06:40 | |
| Introduce myself and invite myself to their board meetings as often as I can and I do encourage people to let me know when their | 00:06:41 | |
| board meetings are. | 00:06:45 | |
| I love that. | 00:06:48 | |
| Something I would recommend I. | 00:06:49 | |
| I found this to be really helpful. And maybe if we can't get attendance at the quarterlies, we do an annual and we invite. | 00:06:51 | |
| Our shared. | 00:06:59 | |
| Opportunities within like with the tag program or. | 00:07:01 | |
| Are recycling our trash programs and we make sure. | 00:07:05 | |
| That may be our Sheriff's Office comes in. | 00:07:08 | |
| Coordinates any problems that. | 00:07:10 | |
| Jurisdictions. | 00:07:12 | |
| Yeah, I can definitely do that. | 00:07:14 | |
| That would be wonderful. | 00:07:16 | |
| Any other questions or comments? | 00:07:17 | |
| OK. Thank you so much. Thank you. | 00:07:20 | |
| Look forward to hearing more about the stuff you've been working on. | 00:07:23 | |
| All right, Chris Thomas, come on up. You're going to talk to us about. | 00:07:26 | |
| Pavement Preservation. | 00:07:30 | |
| This is. | 00:07:33 | |
| I'm sorry to see that your arm is hurt. | 00:07:38 | |
| Yeah, just a little. | 00:07:41 | |
| Little minor surgery so. | 00:07:42 | |
| Hopefully it'll get better soon. | 00:07:44 | |
| That's the goal, anyway. | 00:07:46 | |
| Sweet, so then just push that slides or? | 00:08:13 | |
| OK. | 00:08:19 | |
| OK, perfect. | 00:08:20 | |
| Well, I appreciate. | 00:08:22 | |
| You guys giving us a few minutes to do a little pavement preservation update. | 00:08:23 | |
| We just kind of wanted to. | 00:08:28 | |
| Give some information out and let everybody know what's going on. | 00:08:29 | |
| 1st I know, maybe a little bit redundant but. | 00:08:34 | |
| You know, I wanted to give a little bit of. | 00:08:39 | |
| Background why we do pavement preservation and. | 00:08:41 | |
| The best thing for me is like if you. | 00:08:45 | |
| If you have. | 00:08:47 | |
| Doing maintenance on your car. | 00:08:48 | |
| If you you could. | 00:08:52 | |
| You could not do oil changes on your car. | 00:08:54 | |
| For the life of the car. | 00:08:57 | |
| But then and you might save money in the short term. | 00:08:58 | |
| But eventually that would catch up to you. | 00:09:01 | |
| And I would have this big costly repair. | 00:09:03 | |
| And you can kind of see. | 00:09:05 | |
| On the chart there is is it goes down into the original pavement. | 00:09:07 | |
| If they do preservation of the dollar now. | 00:09:10 | |
| If we wait. | 00:09:12 | |
| Becomes $4.00 and I have to wait even further. | 00:09:13 | |
| Becomes $25. | 00:09:15 | |
| And so. | 00:09:17 | |
| By doing maintenance on our roads now, we can save. | 00:09:18 | |
| All those dollars. | 00:09:22 | |
| And so, you know, I appreciate. | 00:09:25 | |
| You know Vineyard. | 00:09:28 | |
| Being willing to to. | 00:09:29 | |
| Allow us to have the budget to do that. | 00:09:31 | |
| And it's something that we take. | 00:09:33 | |
| Great pride in haven't haven't really good routes here. | 00:09:35 | |
| And I live in Salem at the more established community and they do a great job down there. | 00:09:38 | |
| With what they have but. | 00:09:42 | |
| When I drive around Salem, then I drive around Vineyard. | 00:09:43 | |
| You know, I'm pretty proud of what we've done here in. | 00:09:47 | |
| But it is a newer communities, but we want to keep it that way and. | 00:09:49 | |
| I think if we keep that investment going, it will. | 00:09:52 | |
| Pay dividends for selling the road so. | 00:09:55 | |
| Here's a map of. | 00:09:59 | |
| What we've done this year, some of this is. | 00:10:01 | |
| Warranty work as well. | 00:10:06 | |
| We did some warranty work along 170 S. | 00:10:08 | |
| We did some warranty work in the Elms. | 00:10:11 | |
| And then on the trail from City Hall. | 00:10:13 | |
| Down to the Elms and then on 170 S the trail there. | 00:10:16 | |
| We did some. | 00:10:20 | |
| Warranty trial work on. | 00:10:21 | |
| Just below cascade. | 00:10:24 | |
| There and then cascade and. | 00:10:25 | |
| Providence, we did some warranty work in there as well. | 00:10:28 | |
| And that's work that. | 00:10:32 | |
| That Holbrooke provides at no cost. | 00:10:33 | |
| To ask because it was still under warranty. | 00:10:36 | |
| So that's one of the big advantages that we have with HA5IS. | 00:10:38 | |
| They have the best warranty. | 00:10:43 | |
| In the business so. | 00:10:44 | |
| And they're really good to work with that way. | 00:10:45 | |
| As far as next year's? | 00:10:48 | |
| Conservation, we have about $389,000 to spend on that. | 00:10:50 | |
| The rough calculations we want to get. | 00:10:55 | |
| Vineyard Rd. | 00:10:59 | |
| And then from. | 00:11:00 | |
| 300 W. | 00:11:02 | |
| Vineyard up to. | 00:11:03 | |
| Basically where the bridge is. | 00:11:06 | |
| Being built now. | 00:11:08 | |
| So and. | 00:11:09 | |
| We want to do those routes because. | 00:11:12 | |
| Sometimes you have to take into consideration even though we may have some relatives that are worse off. | 00:11:14 | |
| Sometimes those roads that are. | 00:11:19 | |
| Worse off, it's better to save the roads that you have. | 00:11:20 | |
| Good and keep them good. | 00:11:24 | |
| Than to put more money into roads that are. | 00:11:26 | |
| Not as good. | 00:11:28 | |
| And so we want to get to them all eventually, but. | 00:11:29 | |
| Because these are main roads throughout Vineyard. | 00:11:33 | |
| And where they get a lot of traffic, we want to keep those roads nice and so. | 00:11:36 | |
| That's kind of why we've concentrated on those. | 00:11:40 | |
| Those areas. | 00:11:42 | |
| And as always when whenever we do projects, obviously we find. | 00:11:47 | |
| Areas where we fall short. | 00:11:51 | |
| I know for myself. | 00:11:54 | |
| I There's a lot of moving parts to. | 00:11:55 | |
| Doing the preservation program. | 00:11:58 | |
| And a lot of. | 00:12:00 | |
| Back and forth between myself. | 00:12:01 | |
| And the contractors? | 00:12:03 | |
| And I see. | 00:12:06 | |
| You know. | 00:12:07 | |
| Numerous maps and proposals. | 00:12:09 | |
| And everything. | 00:12:12 | |
| Before we actually get down to the final. | 00:12:13 | |
| You'll find a little bit and so I get really numb to a lot of that stuff because I. | 00:12:15 | |
| I've looked at stuff over and over and over again. | 00:12:20 | |
| And then, you know, then, then we change it up and then we look at it and then we change it up. | 00:12:22 | |
| And I just, there's just a lot of moving parts to it. | 00:12:27 | |
| And so for me. | 00:12:29 | |
| Having input, you know, like the weekly coordination that we have up there. | 00:12:31 | |
| Having some of that input, I think will be really valuable for me and something that I've learned because. | 00:12:35 | |
| Everyone sees things through a different lens. | 00:12:40 | |
| And everyone you know. | 00:12:43 | |
| And that information is valuable to me because. | 00:12:46 | |
| If someone can say, well hey, did we notify this or did we do that? | 00:12:48 | |
| Or hey, we have this going on. | 00:12:53 | |
| You know cuz. | 00:12:54 | |
| Sometimes I just get lost in the. | 00:12:55 | |
| In the in the battle, trying to get things done because. | 00:12:57 | |
| The reality is. | 00:13:01 | |
| While we want to get things done on our schedule and just do it when it's the most perfect time. | 00:13:02 | |
| We deal with the contractor and then they have subcontractors. | 00:13:08 | |
| And so. | 00:13:12 | |
| All of that. | 00:13:13 | |
| All those moving parts. | 00:13:14 | |
| To get everybody to agree on to a date. | 00:13:16 | |
| It just it's really difficult to do. | 00:13:18 | |
| And so when we get those dates. | 00:13:21 | |
| It's hard to say. | 00:13:23 | |
| No, no, we can't do it. | 00:13:24 | |
| You know, because we don't know if it's ever going to come back. Then again that. | 00:13:25 | |
| And so. | 00:13:29 | |
| There's just a lot of moving parts to it and so. | 00:13:30 | |
| Like, you know. | 00:13:33 | |
| You know, it's, it's just a difficult thing to do, but we do the best we can and, and obviously we'll try to learn as we go along | 00:13:35 | |
| to each project we do. | 00:13:38 | |
| We get better, we will get better, and we'll make it better for everyone. | 00:13:42 | |
| I just want to say thank you for that and for leaning into that coordination because. | 00:13:46 | |
| That's just going to be the case for every single project that we do. | 00:13:51 | |
| And so. | 00:13:55 | |
| Coming and saying that and just being willing to say, OK, what can we do better next time? How do we get this right? And we have | 00:13:57 | |
| all of these moving pieces. I feel like you guys did a really good job. There were little things that went awry and you worked as | 00:14:02 | |
| a team. You brought it all back together and you came up with a new plan that's going to make it even better the next time. And. | 00:14:08 | |
| That's really all the people care about and that's all we can hope for as. | 00:14:14 | |
| People working together with different talents and strengths and skills. So thank you. We really appreciate it. Yeah. | 00:14:18 | |
| Great. I think that's. | 00:14:24 | |
| All we got so. | 00:14:26 | |
| Awesome. Any questions about pavement preservation? | 00:14:28 | |
| I know you had a couple of people reaching out about it. | 00:14:31 | |
| This is a great slide. I love this the pictures that show the $1.00 versus the $25 investment overtime. | 00:14:33 | |
| And that that difference and really is saying. | 00:14:41 | |
| The way that you articulated, we want to keep what's good, good. | 00:14:45 | |
| And kind of phasing out and really, you know. | 00:14:49 | |
| That it's on the forefront of your mind that some of the roads that were like, but why aren't you fixing this one? And it's | 00:14:51 | |
| because. | 00:14:53 | |
| You're getting ready for an investment to take care of that road in a different way, and then we'll keep what's good. Good then. | 00:14:56 | |
| 2 so that's nice Yep, thank you just. | 00:15:02 | |
| Prioritizing is the best thing to do with our money so. | 00:15:05 | |
| Perfect. | 00:15:08 | |
| All right. Thank you so much. We hope your arm heals soon. | 00:15:09 | |
| Yeah, me too. No, this is not too. I just wanted to make one highlight that Chris Thomas that not only he gets on fixed, but he | 00:15:13 | |
| recently got this certified book manager certification. | 00:15:17 | |
| Chris, if you turn this way, I'll get a picture because Nasima is trying to get one. | 00:15:29 | |
| And I'll get one for you. | 00:15:33 | |
| Thank you so much. | 00:15:37 | |
| All right, that brings us right to our public comments. | 00:15:38 | |
| If there's anybody that would like to address the Council on things that are not on the agenda, please come to the podium. | 00:15:41 | |
| State your name and where you're from. Time will set a 2 minute timer and we would love to hear from you. | 00:15:47 | |
| Just by a raise of hands. | 00:15:51 | |
| Can I see who is thinking about making a comment tonight? We've got 1/2. | 00:15:53 | |
| Any others? | 00:15:59 | |
| All right, come on up. | 00:16:00 | |
| My name is David Pierce. I live in the Cascade neighborhood. I attended the. | 00:16:12 | |
| Ribbon cutting. | 00:16:16 | |
| Linden Heritage Trail. | 00:16:19 | |
| And that's kind of exciting. | 00:16:21 | |
| So I'll complete that whole trail. | 00:16:24 | |
| From the light. | 00:16:28 | |
| To the Canyon. | 00:16:29 | |
| And it was. | 00:16:31 | |
| This book was a good project. | 00:16:35 | |
| My wife and I, Jane. | 00:16:39 | |
| I'm going to be walking on that trail. | 00:16:41 | |
| And justice using it. | 00:16:43 | |
| And we appreciate the effort to. | 00:16:46 | |
| I know, Mayor, that's something you've been working on for. | 00:16:49 | |
| Eight years now. | 00:16:51 | |
| And all the other council members. | 00:16:53 | |
| Been helping to support that. | 00:16:57 | |
| So I have my. | 00:16:59 | |
| Heritage Trail Hat was on his game. | 00:17:01 | |
| Just want to say thanks either. | 00:17:04 | |
| Thank you. | 00:17:06 | |
| Aria Evans still is resident. I too echo. | 00:17:16 | |
| David Sediment. | 00:17:20 | |
| It's a great addition to the trail system. High. | 00:17:22 | |
| Russ and I wrote on it. | 00:17:25 | |
| All the way to Geneva Road and we decided not to cross Geneva Rd. because, you know, it's a little busy. | 00:17:27 | |
| But we will do it sometime. | 00:17:32 | |
| I just have a couple of questions. | 00:17:34 | |
| Previous City Council meeting. | 00:17:36 | |
| We've been talking about water conservation. | 00:17:38 | |
| And I just would like to know, are we subsidizing our water? | 00:17:42 | |
| And if we are subsidizing our water, who is subsidizing it? Is it the city, the county or the state? | 00:17:48 | |
| I brought my vineyard. | 00:17:59 | |
| Water bill, because we were talking about this tonight and I just have a question about the transportation fee. | 00:18:00 | |
| I've noticed that. | 00:18:08 | |
| It wasn't listed somewhere. | 00:18:10 | |
| And I'm wondering what has happened to it and if so, is it coming back as a tough a transportation utility fee? | 00:18:12 | |
| And when will it come online? | 00:18:19 | |
| And also. | 00:18:22 | |
| Chris was speaking about the preservation. | 00:18:25 | |
| Of the. | 00:18:28 | |
| City streets, what is what was is that warranty period? | 00:18:29 | |
| And why are we redoing it now if it was within the warranty period? Thank you. | 00:18:34 | |
| Thanks Karia. | 00:18:40 | |
| Any other comments? | 00:18:42 | |
| Four more questions. | 00:18:45 | |
| I'm Darlene Price, I live in the villas and I'm just wondering. | 00:18:52 | |
| The last two times that we've met, I. | 00:18:56 | |
| I've asked about safety for children. | 00:18:58 | |
| That are on those motor scooters or. | 00:19:01 | |
| Whatever they're writing these days and I'm wondering. | 00:19:04 | |
| What has been done? | 00:19:07 | |
| Nothing, right? | 00:19:11 | |
| Nothing. | 00:19:12 | |
| Hopefully we'll I'll address in the fan. Thank you. Thank you darling. | 00:19:16 | |
| Any other comments? | 00:19:21 | |
| OK, with that, I'm going to go ahead and close public comments. | 00:19:24 | |
| And we'll start with the safety. | 00:19:28 | |
| Nicholas, I like some of these things to be addressed tonight. I think it's. | 00:19:30 | |
| It's a good time to give an update. | 00:19:33 | |
| All right, so we recently passed the golf cart and micro mobility device ordinance. | 00:19:36 | |
| On that one, you're talking about the. | 00:19:40 | |
| Like scooters and bicycles and stuff like that. I believe that's what you're talking about. | 00:19:43 | |
| We passed an ordinance where they have to be writing those. | 00:19:47 | |
| In a safe manner throughout our parks. So that's we've had a lot of concerns. | 00:19:49 | |
| So the deputies are have the ability now and have have an ordinance in place where they can actually take action if somebody's. | 00:19:53 | |
| Writing in a way that that is dangerous to others or even to themselves throughout through our parks. | 00:19:58 | |
| And then obviously any of the other things like the. | 00:20:03 | |
| Crosswalks and things like that, their state codes and sequences that we take, we take action on those. | 00:20:05 | |
| So, yeah, so that is pretty exciting. | 00:20:10 | |
| Is there a? Is there a statement on the microphone? | 00:20:13 | |
| Coursewood So Darlene, Darlene Price just said, is there a safety course for it? | 00:20:16 | |
| We don't necessarily have a safety course. We do do a bike rode over here and. | 00:20:23 | |
| During bike month where we teach. | 00:20:26 | |
| Bike safety when everybody's encouraged to come, when we talk about. | 00:20:28 | |
| Road signs and how to read those Rd. signs, what you do when you approach those Rd. signs and really do make a big effort to. | 00:20:32 | |
| Teach the kids how to be safe when they're out riding. We really encourage them to wear their helmets. | 00:20:38 | |
| And even provide helmets for for for kids when they come to that. We do a really fun. | 00:20:43 | |
| Demonstration with the watermelon. We dropped it off the ladder in the helmet. | 00:20:48 | |
| The watermelon's safe versus when it's not in it. | 00:20:51 | |
| Splashes all over everybody, so. | 00:20:54 | |
| We do a really good job of trying to trying to. | 00:20:56 | |
| Educate them. | 00:20:58 | |
| Obviously any more education we can get from from. | 00:20:59 | |
| Parents, anybody around to help educate our kids to be safe and. | 00:21:02 | |
| Washing for cars because they're not going to win those battles. | 00:21:05 | |
| We would greatly appreciate. | 00:21:08 | |
| Yeah. Thank you so much for all you've done on that and thank you for the update. | 00:21:09 | |
| Sometimes we don't always get to it. | 00:21:13 | |
| We if it is helpful, I can have. | 00:21:16 | |
| One of our staff members pull up that. | 00:21:19 | |
| Code that we recently implemented and pass it on to you. | 00:21:21 | |
| So that you can review it and see it. | 00:21:24 | |
| As well, let's go ahead and talk about Daria's. | 00:21:27 | |
| Comments missing, do you have it? | 00:21:30 | |
| Anything to? | 00:21:32 | |
| Respond to her on that. | 00:21:33 | |
| For the Council. | 00:21:36 | |
| So in regards to the warrant. | 00:21:38 | |
| Period on the pavement. | 00:21:41 | |
| I can speak on that SO. | 00:21:42 | |
| The areas that, uh. | 00:21:44 | |
| Cortana talk about some of the rust being. | 00:21:46 | |
| Done under the warrant on their warranty period, we doing on their warranty period the contractor. | 00:21:48 | |
| Is the honoring their warranty even though it's late periods to the grade is a year? | 00:21:53 | |
| On those on those those types of surface treatments. | 00:21:59 | |
| The contractor is honoring their. | 00:22:02 | |
| Warranty passed that one year mark. Those are those are areas like for example, some trails that they have done in some pavements, | 00:22:04 | |
| roadways, pavements they've done. | 00:22:07 | |
| Which was passed a year but the contractor is honoring their. | 00:22:10 | |
| Their work and doing those things at no cost of the city. | 00:22:13 | |
| As long as as long as they're being able to do it. | 00:22:17 | |
| At the same time. | 00:22:20 | |
| The newer areas as well. | 00:22:21 | |
| So yeah. | 00:22:23 | |
| The policy does is the surfacing have worn out like like patches. | 00:22:25 | |
| So you go on a trail and you saw like some past areas. | 00:22:32 | |
| And so you have some areas that were. | 00:22:35 | |
| What this therapist thing had adhered. | 00:22:37 | |
| In some areas where they're servicing, denied here. | 00:22:39 | |
| So they just redid those. They just redid those areas. | 00:22:42 | |
| And along with the roads as well. | 00:22:45 | |
| So hopefully answers your question. | 00:22:47 | |
| On that the. | 00:22:50 | |
| And I may not understand your question fully about subsidizing the water specifically. | 00:22:54 | |
| What I think we could do for that one, if there's not clarity on it is that you guys could meet at a different time and you can | 00:23:00 | |
| get clarity. And if we want to bring that information back to the council at that time, we can the question just. | 00:23:05 | |
| For you was do we subsidized our water and probably through taxpayer dollars is the question. And then she had questions about | 00:23:10 | |
| tough utility and transportation fees and things like that, which you guys can clarify outside of this meeting. OK. And then I | 00:23:17 | |
| just wanted to make a comment. It's such an interesting thing we talked about how so many hands go into building. | 00:23:24 | |
| Trails and. | 00:23:30 | |
| Just congratulations to Lyndon for really pushing their side through and connecting to our lake trail. It's good. | 00:23:32 | |
| Going to be such an amazing amenity for our community. | 00:23:39 | |
| They talked about how it's a trail that goes all the way to the mountainside and what an incredible opportunity to connect. | 00:23:43 | |
| Our small community into this regional area for recreation and utility in ways that we. | 00:23:49 | |
| We've been kind of disconnected as a smaller community and having these big roads that. | 00:23:56 | |
| Block us off from other communities. And so to make these connections is a really incredible opportunity. | 00:24:01 | |
| So thank you to all of our staff. | 00:24:06 | |
| For putting that on Morgan, Yeah. Did you have something to add to this? Yeah, well, I was just, I thought I was playing. That was | 00:24:08 | |
| like my first project about nine years ago that that I worked on London. I remember you and my council members that that worked on | 00:24:12 | |
| that with them. | 00:24:16 | |
| It's just called sometimes those little projects like. | 00:24:21 | |
| Make it so easy. Let's just build that trail. You know, we can have that done next month. But they did are so much that went into | 00:24:24 | |
| it and so, so much that when I was the last segment took us nine years. Yeah. | 00:24:29 | |
| It's we finally got it and what was really cool about it was that. | 00:24:34 | |
| If you saw the people standing out there, it was like. | 00:24:38 | |
| Federal delegation and huge utility companies and. | 00:24:40 | |
| Union Pacific Railroad was out there and if people really knew all of those different people standing out there to make that work, | 00:24:45 | |
| I mean. | 00:24:49 | |
| And we started that last stretch that Morgan's talking about, and that was a baton I was handed from their Farmworth. | 00:24:53 | |
| You know, and all the work that went in it before, which was so cool because we got to see earlier mayors. | 00:24:58 | |
| Who wrote the first grant and. | 00:25:03 | |
| With their councils and their staff and. | 00:25:05 | |
| It was really cool, so thank you. | 00:25:08 | |
| Thank you for that. | 00:25:09 | |
| It's really great for our residents. | 00:25:11 | |
| OK. With that, we'll go ahead and move on to our next agenda item. This is going to bring us to our consent items. | 00:25:13 | |
| Can I get a motion for our consent items or do you have something to discuss? | 00:25:20 | |
| I moved to adoptive consent. | 00:25:31 | |
| The consent items as presented. All right. We have a first by Marty. Can I get a second? | 00:25:34 | |
| Second. Second by Sarah. All in favor. | 00:25:39 | |
| Aye, aye. | 00:25:42 | |
| Any opposed all right. | 00:25:43 | |
| Nobody was opposed. | 00:25:46 | |
| It passed 9.1. | 00:25:47 | |
| We're going to talk about the canvas. This is why we're having this meeting today. According to state law, we needed to hold this | 00:25:49 | |
| meeting. | 00:25:52 | |
| 7 to 14 days after the. | 00:25:55 | |
| Is that the vote went through? | 00:25:58 | |
| And Pam is actually going to talk about it, so I will. | 00:26:00 | |
| Let our recorder. | 00:26:03 | |
| Present and share the results of the primary. | 00:26:04 | |
| Second one I get the clip shirter. | 00:26:19 | |
| Sorry I still had a little bit of prayer problems today, but. | 00:26:45 | |
| Just a little. | 00:26:48 | |
| Background. Well, I'm. | 00:26:49 | |
| Setting this up. | 00:26:51 | |
| For the public to see. | 00:26:52 | |
| County was sending us. | 00:26:56 | |
| All of these final results. | 00:26:57 | |
| This afternoon and so. | 00:27:00 | |
| I had to throw things together. | 00:27:02 | |
| Hello. Maybe not. | 00:27:04 | |
| OK. | 00:27:08 | |
| There we go. | 00:27:13 | |
| So if I missed something I apologize, but everything is in there. | 00:27:18 | |
| But if I missed something on that cover sheet, I. | 00:27:21 | |
| Do. | 00:27:24 | |
| What's there? Where is it at? | 00:27:30 | |
| OK. | 00:28:00 | |
| So what the county does? | 00:28:01 | |
| Now is sends us from. | 00:28:02 | |
| Different sheets as you can see in there, but. | 00:28:06 | |
| I just want to thank you, Mayor and Council. | 00:28:08 | |
| You are now sitting as the. | 00:28:12 | |
| From a vineyard canvassing board for the primary. | 00:28:13 | |
| The 2025. | 00:28:17 | |
| Primary election. | 00:28:18 | |
| That's a little bit of background on it. You're. | 00:28:19 | |
| Were required, as the mayor was mentioning. | 00:28:22 | |
| To do this canvas. | 00:28:24 | |
| And it's within. | 00:28:26 | |
| No sooner than 7 days. | 00:28:28 | |
| And no later than 4. | 00:28:30 | |
| Ten days after the election and that is why. | 00:28:31 | |
| We put the special session together. | 00:28:35 | |
| I sent some information out to council about. | 00:28:39 | |
| Holding just one meeting tonight because otherwise we would have to have two meetings. | 00:28:42 | |
| About a month ago and then I. | 00:28:45 | |
| Created everything that needed to be done. | 00:28:47 | |
| As as we went so. | 00:28:50 | |
| We have this. | 00:28:53 | |
| Basically scheduled over a month ago. | 00:28:56 | |
| When I realized that they were back-to-back. | 00:28:59 | |
| Meetings, so I appreciate you allowing me to. | 00:29:01 | |
| Us to do this tonight. | 00:29:05 | |
| The. | 00:29:07 | |
| Also, on the majority of the state is. | 00:29:09 | |
| That have primaries. | 00:29:12 | |
| Are canvassing tonight. There were few that did it last week. | 00:29:13 | |
| So the county had the household to get those ones done, but there were still a few things out there that I knew we had. | 00:29:16 | |
| And so I knew we wanted to wait. | 00:29:22 | |
| Those 14 days. | 00:29:24 | |
| So in. | 00:29:26 | |
| In your packet. | 00:29:26 | |
| I just I did this. | 00:29:30 | |
| Search certificate that I. | 00:29:31 | |
| Sign that I take from the county results. | 00:29:33 | |
| And so makes it hopefully a little easier. There are a couple other extra things this year that are in there. | 00:29:36 | |
| And I'm just going to hurry and read. | 00:29:41 | |
| All this page. | 00:29:43 | |
| For you, Savage. | 00:29:45 | |
| You're reviewing it. | 00:29:46 | |
| We had. | 00:29:47 | |
| For the August 12. | 00:29:48 | |
| 2025 primary election. | 00:29:50 | |
| The time of August 7th, which is the Thursday before, which is the last day they take. | 00:29:53 | |
| And voter registration, I believe it is. | 00:29:59 | |
| Before the. | 00:30:03 | |
| That they can count it as a registered voter rather than a provisional. | 00:30:05 | |
| Ballot. So there was 6592 registered voters. | 00:30:09 | |
| 3823 of those were. | 00:30:14 | |
| Classified as private. 1713 were classified as public. | 00:30:17 | |
| And 1056 wanted everything withheld. | 00:30:21 | |
| Total so. | 00:30:26 | |
| The ballots that were turned in. | 00:30:28 | |
| For the election, the total number of balance counted. | 00:30:30 | |
| Or 1000. | 00:30:33 | |
| 683. | 00:30:35 | |
| And in 2023? | 00:30:38 | |
| Just the general election of all I had to go by because we were doing right choice. | 00:30:41 | |
| We had. | 00:30:45 | |
| Total of active voters was 6000. | 00:30:48 | |
| 323. | 00:30:51 | |
| And the total number of ballots that came. | 00:30:53 | |
| Yeah, we're 1660 ballots, so. | 00:30:55 | |
| It's a. It's a small increase. | 00:30:59 | |
| So, umm. | 00:31:02 | |
| Voter Education. | 00:31:04 | |
| Get on my little. | 00:31:05 | |
| Soapbox for just a second if you don't mind. | 00:31:07 | |
| For people to understand how important. | 00:31:10 | |
| The primary election is because if your person's in there and you don't vote for them because you want to wait for the general | 00:31:13 | |
| election, they may not move on. | 00:31:16 | |
| So because we're. | 00:31:19 | |
| The selection was eliminating 2 of the candidates. | 00:31:21 | |
| Because in the general election you can have no more. | 00:31:25 | |
| And two times the number of seats. | 00:31:28 | |
| Open and for Council we have. | 00:31:30 | |
| Three seats this year because of the change in government. | 00:31:33 | |
| That'll be effective January 1, 2026. | 00:31:36 | |
| And so there you could vote for three people. | 00:31:40 | |
| For up to three people in the. | 00:31:43 | |
| Top 6. | 00:31:45 | |
| Are the ones that will move on. | 00:31:46 | |
| The balance that were counted. | 00:31:48 | |
| For the general. | 00:31:53 | |
| Two years ago, uh. | 00:31:54 | |
| Are less than what we're. | 00:31:55 | |
| Counted for the primary this year, but if we can get the word out and get people out to vote. | 00:31:57 | |
| That would be great. We went from the original. | 00:32:02 | |
| Release in. | 00:32:05 | |
| On Election Day, on the 12th. | 00:32:07 | |
| We were at what? | 00:32:09 | |
| 15%. | 00:32:10 | |
| But by the time they were able to get everything counted, we moved up to 25. | 00:32:12 | |
| Percent and it's. | 00:32:16 | |
| We were just a little more than 25% of the last general election, so I believe. | 00:32:18 | |
| I forgot to write that one down, sorry. | 00:32:24 | |
| So as you can see on the rest of this report. | 00:32:27 | |
| That, umm. | 00:32:30 | |
| Of the 1660 ballots that. | 00:32:32 | |
| Were counted, 20 were in person. | 00:32:35 | |
| Now 6 no cry. | 00:32:39 | |
| Start over. Of the 1683 ballots that were counted, 1660 were the drop box or mailed back. | 00:32:41 | |
| 20 were in person. | 00:32:51 | |
| Two were returned electronically. | 00:32:53 | |
| And they were probably voters overseas in the military, that kind of a thing that. | 00:32:55 | |
| That is allowed to be done, so that's great. Only one provisional ballot. | 00:33:01 | |
| Was counted, which means that somebody went in and registered either during early voting or on Election Day to a vote center. | 00:33:06 | |
| So. | 00:33:13 | |
| That's. | 00:33:15 | |
| Yeah, yeah. | 00:33:17 | |
| Yep, just one provisional ballot, but that doesn't mean that's how many. | 00:33:19 | |
| Were in person because there were 20. | 00:33:22 | |
| That were counted, that were in person? That just meant they were already registered to vote. | 00:33:24 | |
| And they just went in a person I know I had a call. | 00:33:28 | |
| About. | 00:33:31 | |
| Somebody or nobody came in and they said they'd spoiled their ballot. | 00:33:32 | |
| And so I told him. I gave him. | 00:33:36 | |
| You know what they needed to do. | 00:33:38 | |
| And with that. | 00:33:40 | |
| One good piece of. | 00:33:41 | |
| Of news that I want to put out there as well. | 00:33:43 | |
| As part of this is that we will have a vote Center for the general election. | 00:33:46 | |
| Here in in the City Council chambers, so. | 00:33:50 | |
| That'll be great. We'd love to have it come back. | 00:33:54 | |
| So I'm glad to. | 00:33:57 | |
| To hear that the county is. | 00:33:58 | |
| Willing to give us one. | 00:34:00 | |
| How was that decided the county just. | 00:34:02 | |
| Called Jeff, They just asked me. | 00:34:05 | |
| He said would you like to vote senator? And I said I'd love a vote center here. | 00:34:07 | |
| Are you going to need volunteers to help run it? | 00:34:11 | |
| The town, because we're contracted the county, the county actually does the poll workers. | 00:34:14 | |
| And Tony Krickman if I'm wrong, but. | 00:34:18 | |
| Do they have to reappoint them for the general election, the poll workers that they did for the primary? | 00:34:22 | |
| Yeah, yeah. | 00:34:27 | |
| So that's what I thought. | 00:34:28 | |
| So if anybody's interested, they'll contact those that were poll workers from the primary, but they may send us another notice | 00:34:29 | |
| saying that they. | 00:34:33 | |
| It's only need workers and you need to get a hold of them right away because those spots do fill up and. | 00:34:36 | |
| I think it's. | 00:34:42 | |
| Fun. | 00:34:43 | |
| So. | 00:34:44 | |
| If I were on the ballot, I would. | 00:34:45 | |
| Yeah, to volunteer, right, if you're. | 00:34:47 | |
| Not on the ballot. | 00:34:50 | |
| So back to our report. Sorry. | 00:34:53 | |
| So total of. | 00:34:56 | |
| Ballots not counted, and these are the reasons we separated out the reasons why they weren't counted. | 00:34:57 | |
| When the signature didn't match the envelope, meaning they probably just signed the wrong envelope and sometimes they can cure | 00:35:03 | |
| those. | 00:35:06 | |
| Just by umm. | 00:35:10 | |
| I don't know, knowing their households, right, Tony? | 00:35:15 | |
| Tony can give you a little more insight. | 00:35:17 | |
| Yeah, typically with those ones there. | 00:35:19 | |
| Uh, you'll get. | 00:35:22 | |
| Spouses assign each other's valid envelopes. | 00:35:23 | |
| And so it's really easy as you're going through the signature verification process to look at both. | 00:35:26 | |
| Pull up the signatures for both house, both voters in the household and you can go, OK, that's what they did. And it's. | 00:35:31 | |
| A pretty easy cure. | 00:35:37 | |
| And a lot of times they'll reach out. | 00:35:38 | |
| To that. | 00:35:41 | |
| Person if they know whether they can figure out who that person is, if they can read the signature. | 00:35:42 | |
| Or you know, contact person with. | 00:35:47 | |
| On the the name on the ballot. | 00:35:49 | |
| On that, not the ballot, the envelope, There's no names on balance. | 00:35:51 | |
| Let me clarify that. | 00:35:55 | |
| So, so that's there's just one this time, which is great. | 00:35:58 | |
| One unsigned, one which? | 00:36:03 | |
| They weren't able to cure. Curing means that they can correct it and be able to count those ballots and so. | 00:36:05 | |
| Anything that they've. | 00:36:11 | |
| Cured would be in the. | 00:36:12 | |
| The other. | 00:36:13 | |
| In your upper list. | 00:36:15 | |
| So there were five that were challenged. | 00:36:17 | |
| And not being able to count, be count, whether they were counted or not, there were just five that were challenged. | 00:36:21 | |
| And so we don't really have that number of the challenged ones. | 00:36:26 | |
| Were counted or not, they don't break that out. | 00:36:29 | |
| What does that mean exactly? | 00:36:32 | |
| Challenge Challenge could be. | 00:36:35 | |
| Well, one of the things is that they sign for somebody else. | 00:36:38 | |
| Or if. | 00:36:41 | |
| Somebody. | 00:36:43 | |
| Got a hold of them and says I don't think they're legal to be voting. | 00:36:45 | |
| Some of those types of things can be. | 00:36:48 | |
| Can be a challenge that the. | 00:36:50 | |
| County because we contract with them. | 00:36:52 | |
| Has to investigate. | 00:36:54 | |
| So, but it just tells us they were challenged. It doesn't give us the results for those. | 00:36:58 | |
| Just and it could be county. | 00:37:03 | |
| Public challenge so. | 00:37:09 | |
| The total number of. | 00:37:12 | |
| Curable that weren't cured. | 00:37:15 | |
| Does that make sense? So that means that people didn't get back to them in time? | 00:37:17 | |
| To count the. | 00:37:21 | |
| They have so many days to get back to them once they do that, and that was just two. | 00:37:22 | |
| So overall turn out was 25.5%. | 00:37:26 | |
| And we really need to increase that number. Would be fantastic to increase that number. | 00:37:31 | |
| So we also have to let you know what the votes. | 00:37:37 | |
| Cast reach candidate or council. I did leave them in ballot order, but you'll see. | 00:37:41 | |
| On the county side, they put them in the number the voting. | 00:37:46 | |
| The highest to the lowest so you could see that number. | 00:37:49 | |
| I figured we'd leave it in ballot order, so. | 00:37:53 | |
| Brett received Brett Claussen received 579. | 00:37:56 | |
| Take a Word received 743. | 00:38:00 | |
| Kaden wrote and received 580. | 00:38:03 | |
| Sorry. | 00:38:07 | |
| Losing my place here. | 00:38:08 | |
| Terry Ewing, receipt 4. | 00:38:10 | |
| 3. | 00:38:12 | |
| As Renee Nair received 600 and. | 00:38:13 | |
| 3 Parker Mccumber. | 00:38:16 | |
| Received 690. David Larae Received 595 and. | 00:38:18 | |
| Steve Terry received 267, so if you can, you'll see on your. | 00:38:23 | |
| On your batch sheet. | 00:38:29 | |
| The one on the Backpage. | 00:38:30 | |
| Then I lied. | 00:38:33 | |
| Skip the next page over. | 00:38:35 | |
| Where the county put it in vote, a number of votes order who would be moving on. | 00:38:37 | |
| Would be Jacob Wood, Parker Mccumber as Renaire, David Larae, Caden wrote, and Brett. | 00:38:42 | |
| And Brett Klasse. | 00:38:48 | |
| I understand this is just a nomination. | 00:38:49 | |
| For these people to move on to the general election, so. | 00:38:52 | |
| That is it in a nutshell. You also have. | 00:38:57 | |
| The entire county summary on here. | 00:39:00 | |
| If you wanted to review that a later time, you're not canvassing that. | 00:39:03 | |
| For the vineyards is. | 00:39:07 | |
| Wait at the bottom. | 00:39:08 | |
| But if you wanted to see, you could see the. | 00:39:10 | |
| Like the new school district results for the primary, who would be moving on for them? If you're curious about another city, it's | 00:39:13 | |
| all in there for you. So. | 00:39:16 | |
| With that, I'll turn it over. | 00:39:20 | |
| To you from. | 00:39:22 | |
| Discussion motion. | 00:39:24 | |
| Perfect. Thank you so much for putting this together, it is really helpful. | 00:39:25 | |
| Cancel. | 00:39:29 | |
| Canvassing Board. | 00:39:30 | |
| Do you have any questions? | 00:39:31 | |
| About this. | 00:39:33 | |
| If not, can I get a motion to certify the results? | 00:39:34 | |
| I have a question. Do you do you have any idea like how, how we? | 00:39:38 | |
| Fair and and voters compared to other cities in the county. | 00:39:42 | |
| In in our percentage, yeah. | 00:39:46 | |
| If you look over here. | 00:39:49 | |
| On the county results. | 00:39:51 | |
| They have. | 00:39:53 | |
| Hold on, let me get that. | 00:39:55 | |
| The county commissioners were reporting a 25% turn out across the county. | 00:39:57 | |
| Yeah, so we're. | 00:40:01 | |
| They Yeah, you found out already. Thanks. | 00:40:03 | |
| Yeah, it's right at the beginning of their pages. | 00:40:05 | |
| But. | 00:40:09 | |
| So they were. | 00:40:10 | |
| What I read was 20. | 00:40:12 | |
| 3.75 was the county average while Vineyard was 25 point county average. Yeah. | 00:40:14 | |
| County average was 23.7. | 00:40:20 | |
| 20 county average was 23.73 as you read and ours was 25, so we were a little bit higher than the. | 00:40:23 | |
| Actual average, but that doesn't mean we were higher than other cities. | 00:40:30 | |
| So. | 00:40:33 | |
| So that's interesting on my experience 25. | 00:40:36 | |
| Why is the Commissioner numbers on? | 00:40:41 | |
| On the county. | 00:40:45 | |
| I don't know these are I'm. | 00:40:49 | |
| Transfer these, I just can't go by their web. | 00:40:50 | |
| Their results they send me. | 00:40:52 | |
| Because those are my official results. | 00:40:54 | |
| So I'm wondering if they needed to update their website? | 00:40:57 | |
| They had total of. | 00:41:01 | |
| 3. | 00:41:04 | |
| 322,090 registered voters. | 00:41:05 | |
| And only 76,446 registered brothers. | 00:41:10 | |
| Audit. So there was. | 00:41:15 | |
| 34 blank. | 00:41:17 | |
| So they felt kind of. | 00:41:20 | |
| Count them as. | 00:41:23 | |
| That person voted. | 00:41:25 | |
| Because the envelopes get separated from the ballots. | 00:41:26 | |
| So they'll get credit for voting even though they didn't vote for anything. | 00:41:29 | |
| Maybe, though there's nothing to count. | 00:41:33 | |
| Right, so it looked like we. | 00:41:35 | |
| Do other high growth or fast growing cities as well? | 00:41:39 | |
| Yeah, I'm sure it's OK. | 00:41:42 | |
| All right. Well, can I get a motion or do you have more questions? | 00:41:44 | |
| Can we please read the actual motion because it mentions the names? | 00:41:49 | |
| I can make a motion if everyone's OK with that. | 00:41:55 | |
| Please I move to certify the results of the August 12, 2025 municipal primary election. | 00:41:58 | |
| For the nomination of 6. | 00:42:04 | |
| Candidates. | 00:42:06 | |
| Who will run for the office of City Council in the general election? | 00:42:07 | |
| Those candidates are Brett Klassen, Jacob Wood, Caden. | 00:42:11 | |
| As Rainier, Parker, Mccumber, and. | 00:42:15 | |
| David Luray. | 00:42:17 | |
| Excellent. I have a first by Marty. Can I get a second? | 00:42:18 | |
| 2nd Thank you, Sarah. | 00:42:21 | |
| Yeah, Jake. | 00:42:25 | |
| Brent aye. | 00:42:27 | |
| Aye, Marty. I, Sarah. | 00:42:28 | |
| Aye, all right. | 00:42:31 | |
| OK. And I will have you sign the. | 00:42:32 | |
| We're gonna do a little pomp and circumstance here and have the Council sign the document that they just. | 00:42:34 | |
| That they certified the election. | 00:42:40 | |
| Stating that it's they certified the election. | 00:42:42 | |
| Congratulations to all the people that made it through and thank you so much for putting your names in. | 00:42:46 | |
| Such a big deal to take time out of your lives to serve our community. | 00:42:52 | |
| Really appreciate that. | 00:42:56 | |
| And thank you Pam and Tony for all your artwork. | 00:42:58 | |
| Yeah, thank you. Welcome. And for consolidating into one meeting. Thank you. Yeah, the consolidation is. You're welcome. | 00:43:01 | |
| Thank you for allowing me to do it that way. | 00:43:07 | |
| 2. | 00:43:28 | |
| All right. Thank you so much. | 00:43:37 | |
| That brings us to our next agenda item, which is a public hearing. I'm going to take a motion to go into a public hearing. | 00:43:40 | |
| So thank you, Marty. Can I get a second? | 00:43:47 | |
| Thank you, Brett. | 00:43:50 | |
| Favor. | 00:43:51 | |
| Hi, this is a public hearing on the consolidate fee schedule amendment Resolution 2025-45 and our utility billing clerk, Maria. | 00:43:52 | |
| Will present again. | 00:44:02 | |
| Yes, I will go with that so. | 00:44:04 | |
| There's quite a bit today, so I'll just kind of go from the beginning on page 4. This is for sports. | 00:44:07 | |
| There's a couple update to the fees. So for a youth flag football. | 00:44:13 | |
| That'll be going up to 80 per individual. | 00:44:16 | |
| Use kickball. We're going to 60 for individual. | 00:44:19 | |
| Youth Machine pitch is 80 for individuals. | 00:44:23 | |
| Youth wrestling is 55 per individual. | 00:44:26 | |
| And then? | 00:44:29 | |
| And there are some new programs that they wanted to add in, so ski and snowboard program. | 00:44:30 | |
| That would be 300 for individual and a youth fishery program. | 00:44:34 | |
| That'll be 50 for individual. | 00:44:37 | |
| A couple just changes they wanted to make. | 00:44:39 | |
| For additional non residential fee. | 00:44:43 | |
| Instead of team and individual, it'll now just say up to 20% of the registration fee. | 00:44:45 | |
| Recreation program cancellation fee. | 00:44:50 | |
| And that will just change to up to 100% of the registration fee. | 00:44:52 | |
| On page 7. | 00:44:59 | |
| A couple of just changes to averting. | 00:45:01 | |
| It'll now it used to say all other parks, single soccer hourly field. | 00:45:04 | |
| And we just want to change a little bit. So it'll be all other parts, single soccer fields or field, hourly rentals. | 00:45:09 | |
| And that's just kind of changed throughout for. | 00:45:15 | |
| It kind of varies on price for the days of the week. So that has changed four different times. | 00:45:19 | |
| For hourlies as well as their 4 hour rental. | 00:45:23 | |
| Next page will be on 17. | 00:45:35 | |
| There's a couple differences. | 00:45:39 | |
| The last time there was just a mistake on the number, so we're just fixing that. | 00:45:41 | |
| So for drinking water it is based on meter size. So instead of just saying equivalent residential ERU, it'll say meter size. | 00:45:45 | |
| It is 4207. | 00:45:52 | |
| Dollars with $0.49 per ERU. | 00:45:54 | |
| The table below that I've added. | 00:45:57 | |
| We'll now just show. | 00:45:59 | |
| Kind of every year going forward so it doesn't need to be updated as often so you can just refer to the table to look at what it | 00:46:01 | |
| is per year. | 00:46:03 | |
| As well as there's just that stipulation of drinking water includes all water service connections. | 00:46:08 | |
| Types including landscaping meters. | 00:46:14 | |
| On page 18, we have changed it since we are now going with Central Utah Water. | 00:46:20 | |
| So it's now essential Utah Water Conservation District water rights cost per ERC. | 00:46:24 | |
| Equal to the current fiscal year. | 00:46:30 | |
| And then that is. | 00:46:33 | |
| Based on their. | 00:46:35 | |
| Our agreement. | 00:46:36 | |
| And that's through the exhibit that we have. | 00:46:38 | |
| Online, correct? | 00:46:41 | |
| Is where you can find that just because it will change based on what they have as their fees. | 00:46:43 | |
| As well as kind of how I stated earlier, the utility application fee will go from 20 to 25. | 00:46:48 | |
| OK. Are there any questions from the public? | 00:46:54 | |
| I just want to make a comment that I'm super excited to learn about the ski. | 00:46:59 | |
| And Fisher recover. | 00:47:02 | |
| And I'm fine. Are you? Have you guys figured out ages yet like? | 00:47:04 | |
| How old can you be? | 00:47:09 | |
| So for the ski and snowboard program, that will be geared towards ages 10 through 18. | 00:47:15 | |
| Really just trying to pinpoint the teenager. So we don't have a lot of programs for that. | 00:47:20 | |
| And then for fishing, we haven't quite. | 00:47:26 | |
| Specified the age yet. | 00:47:30 | |
| It'll likely be we'll start a little bit younger than 10. | 00:47:32 | |
| But that'll also go up for teenagers as well. | 00:47:36 | |
| That's really cool. | 00:47:40 | |
| We're going to have a little bit of excitement. | 00:47:41 | |
| So how does the how does the ski go about? | 00:47:44 | |
| Snowboard program work. | 00:47:47 | |
| Sorry. | 00:47:49 | |
| But it's really cool. I'm just curious. Yeah. So we basically partner with. | 00:47:50 | |
| The Brighton ski resort. | 00:47:56 | |
| Where they have staff that will. | 00:47:58 | |
| Teach the kids how to ski and snowboard. | 00:48:01 | |
| They get a 2 hour lesson. | 00:48:04 | |
| On a few Saturdays and then they get 4 hours per Saturday of free ski. | 00:48:06 | |
| This is a program that American Fork and Lehigh both do as well. | 00:48:12 | |
| And they sell out every time. | 00:48:16 | |
| And this is something that has been brought up. | 00:48:19 | |
| By a number of people. | 00:48:21 | |
| And so we just. | 00:48:24 | |
| Thought this would be a. | 00:48:25 | |
| A great program. Yeah, that's awesome. So is it like a four week program or is it like a day program? It's a three-week program. | 00:48:26 | |
| So it'll be two Saturdays in December and then the first Saturday in January. | 00:48:34 | |
| That's awesome. | 00:48:38 | |
| Does it include transportation or? | 00:48:39 | |
| Yeah. So this will include a bus? | 00:48:42 | |
| So that all the kids would. | 00:48:46 | |
| Bus together to the location and we would have 5 chaperones that are adults to go with them. | 00:48:48 | |
| Just a comment. | 00:48:53 | |
| And take it or leave it but. | 00:48:56 | |
| I know that elementary schools. | 00:48:58 | |
| Have umm. | 00:49:00 | |
| Ski programs for like I think it's 5th and 6th graders, maybe 4th, 5th and 6th. | 00:49:01 | |
| So just a thought would be, you know, making sure that the older kids have the opportunity to try it out. | 00:49:06 | |
| I I might be biased to say you should have it for 12 1/2 or something. | 00:49:14 | |
| But or 13 1/2? | 00:49:18 | |
| But I'm biased so. | 00:49:20 | |
| No, that's a great thought. | 00:49:22 | |
| So really targeting those teenagers, I think. | 00:49:24 | |
| OK. Any questions from the public? | 00:49:27 | |
| Come up, Daria. | 00:49:32 | |
| Sorry Evans, been here. | 00:49:39 | |
| Villas resident, I just found the transportation utility fee. It's going up to $3.50 per ERU. | 00:49:41 | |
| That was one of my questions, so thank you very much. | 00:49:46 | |
| And then just for that Daria. | 00:49:50 | |
| That one's the one that's been in there this whole time, we just haven't charged it. | 00:49:52 | |
| Yeah, so. | 00:50:00 | |
| Just as a update, that one isn't fully like there. We're not. That's just what it was back in the day. | 00:50:01 | |
| So we're not sure, I'm not sure what that will be at this time. | 00:50:08 | |
| OK. Any other questions from the public? | 00:50:11 | |
| Come on up. | 00:50:16 | |
| David Pierce Cascade, I just had a question. | 00:50:20 | |
| Relating to. | 00:50:23 | |
| The fees for youth. | 00:50:24 | |
| Recreation programs. | 00:50:28 | |
| There was some talk. | 00:50:29 | |
| In earlier meetings about a scholarship. | 00:50:32 | |
| Program. | 00:50:35 | |
| Do you want to hear more about that? | 00:50:36 | |
| Yeah, yeah. | 00:50:39 | |
| Yeah. So we started a scholarship program, I believe it was last year. | 00:50:44 | |
| To where? | 00:50:49 | |
| Anyone that. | 00:50:51 | |
| You know. | 00:50:53 | |
| Less likely to participate due to financial reasons. | 00:50:55 | |
| If they work with snap. | 00:50:59 | |
| Or, uh. | 00:51:01 | |
| Have Medicare or whatever it might be. | 00:51:03 | |
| They can send a copy of their. | 00:51:05 | |
| Proof of that. | 00:51:08 | |
| And our team can approve for them to get the financial assistance to participate. | 00:51:09 | |
| We've had a number of people that have done it this year. | 00:51:15 | |
| And so that's been really exciting to. | 00:51:18 | |
| See them have the opportunity to play whereas. | 00:51:20 | |
| Otherwise, they probably would not. | 00:51:23 | |
| But we allow for each registration, we just have an open slot where registrants can. | 00:51:26 | |
| Donate. | 00:51:33 | |
| However much they'd like to that fund and then that fund is specifically for. | 00:51:34 | |
| Though seeking financial assistance. | 00:51:39 | |
| Please accept the microphone. | 00:51:44 | |
| OK. Are there any other questions? Well. | 00:51:46 | |
| Is that not just? | 00:51:48 | |
| For residents or is it? | 00:51:49 | |
| David Pierce again with the. | 00:51:54 | |
| Cascade follow-up question were there. | 00:51:55 | |
| More applicants than funds for that or were. | 00:51:58 | |
| All the available seats taken. | 00:52:01 | |
| Or were there extra funds leftover that not enough people applied for? | 00:52:04 | |
| We have excess funds for OK. Thank you. | 00:52:07 | |
| Thank you. | 00:52:11 | |
| Hey, any other questions from the public? | 00:52:14 | |
| All right. If not, I'm going to go out of the. | 00:52:19 | |
| Public hearing I need a motion. | 00:52:21 | |
| Thank you, Sarah. Can I get a second? | 00:52:26 | |
| 2nd Thank you, Marty. All in favor. | 00:52:30 | |
| Hi. Hi. | 00:52:32 | |
| Aye. All right. Any comment? OK. | 00:52:34 | |
| Council, do you have any questions about this? | 00:52:39 | |
| Any of the changes that have been made. | 00:52:41 | |
| That you'd like to understand better. | 00:52:46 | |
| None that haven't been already asked. | 00:52:48 | |
| Jake, do you have anything? | 00:52:54 | |
| No, Sarah. Marty. | 00:52:55 | |
| OK, can I get a medicine? | 00:52:57 | |
| I moved to adopt Resolution 202545, the consolidated fee schedule amendments, as presented. | 00:53:04 | |
| OK, I have a first place Sarah, can I get a second? | 00:53:10 | |
| Second. Second by. | 00:53:14 | |
| I'll do this by roll call. | 00:53:17 | |
| Aye, Fred. | 00:53:19 | |
| Hi, Marty. | 00:53:21 | |
| All right. Thank you so much. | 00:53:23 | |
| This brings us to. | 00:53:27 | |
| Discussion and action of authorizing bid award for independent financial audit and internal controls review resolution 2025, Dash | 00:53:28 | |
| 41 and I'm going to let. | 00:53:33 | |
| Brett class and present on this if you've been. | 00:53:38 | |
| Kind of leading out on this with Sarah. | 00:53:41 | |
| So we first entered into the idea of having this financial review. | 00:53:46 | |
| I think 2 meetings ago and. | 00:53:52 | |
| Or no, it's longer than that. | 00:53:55 | |
| But in our response we then. | 00:53:57 | |
| Had a response and went through. We've now had. | 00:54:00 | |
| Two interviews. | 00:54:05 | |
| One that I that I would say was more of a. | 00:54:07 | |
| Get to know you and make sure that we have a clear understanding and then a. | 00:54:10 | |
| A second that was more of a. | 00:54:14 | |
| OK, Now if we're going to go to this next step, what, what might those? | 00:54:16 | |
| Agreed upon procedures for. | 00:54:21 | |
| Reviewing the. | 00:54:23 | |
| The areas that we wanted reviewed what might those look like? So they were they were draft responses and then we. | 00:54:25 | |
| We reviewed those as a. | 00:54:31 | |
| Committee we did have. | 00:54:33 | |
| So. So primarily that was myself. | 00:54:35 | |
| We had a resident who works in the industry. | 00:54:38 | |
| Who Mr. | 00:54:42 | |
| Get us who? | 00:54:46 | |
| Again, where it works in the industry, who is part of that review process? | 00:54:47 | |
| And then? | 00:54:52 | |
| That we were the the primary reviewers, that there were a handful of others who. | 00:54:55 | |
| Got to give opinions on that that as well. | 00:55:01 | |
| And at this time we selected. | 00:55:05 | |
| Mr. Chris Harding, who, who's in the room with us tonight And I'm, I'm sure we'll be able to ask him a few questions. | 00:55:08 | |
| To go ahead and move forward with this. | 00:55:14 | |
| We had initially transferred. | 00:55:17 | |
| Or allocated $100,000 to. | 00:55:20 | |
| Possibility of. | 00:55:23 | |
| Of doing this review. | 00:55:27 | |
| At this time, we'll be coming back. His estimate is significantly lower than that. | 00:55:30 | |
| And what we have on the table tonight is an allocation of up to $45,000. | 00:55:36 | |
| And that gives us some room. | 00:55:42 | |
| As he's going through this process, if he finds something, that is a red flag. | 00:55:45 | |
| And we determined that we need to look deeper. | 00:55:50 | |
| It allows us to adjust our agreement in a way that we can. | 00:55:53 | |
| That move forward with additional. | 00:55:58 | |
| Investigation. | 00:56:02 | |
| If if we need it. | 00:56:03 | |
| And we and that we can do that without having to come back for. | 00:56:05 | |
| Additional funds and wait for another Councilman. | 00:56:10 | |
| Do so. | 00:56:13 | |
| To the the agreements are part of the the Council agenda. | 00:56:16 | |
| So. So they are available to everybody. | 00:56:20 | |
| As part of this process, I've also met with every council member giving them an update prior to this meeting. | 00:56:24 | |
| To know so that they would know. | 00:56:30 | |
| What to expect? | 00:56:32 | |
| And what Mr. Harding's? | 00:56:34 | |
| Credentials are. | 00:56:36 | |
| And I've also. | 00:56:38 | |
| Indicated that. | 00:56:40 | |
| Should any council member want to meet with him during the process. | 00:56:41 | |
| That, uh. | 00:56:46 | |
| They are entitled to do so. I would ask. | 00:56:47 | |
| The the one. | 00:56:50 | |
| Leading the initiative that. | 00:56:51 | |
| That I'd be there as well. | 00:56:53 | |
| But every. | 00:56:56 | |
| Every council member has the. | 00:56:58 | |
| The the privilege of. | 00:57:01 | |
| Being part of that. | 00:57:03 | |
| I would also. | 00:57:04 | |
| Reiterate that part of the agreement. | 00:57:06 | |
| Is that Mister Harding is independent. | 00:57:08 | |
| His work quickly has the autonomy to request the documentation and information that he needs in order to complete his review. | 00:57:13 | |
| And. | 00:57:21 | |
| And that that is not dictated by any city staff. | 00:57:24 | |
| It's dictated by him. | 00:57:27 | |
| The professional leading the engagement. | 00:57:30 | |
| The the last thing that I would that I would put. | 00:57:38 | |
| Out there before we move to any other kind of questions are the. | 00:57:41 | |
| The primary goals that we. | 00:57:45 | |
| That we want to achieve through this. | 00:57:47 | |
| Are one looking at? | 00:57:49 | |
| Whether or not the city is compliant with their own process. | 00:57:52 | |
| So there are policies and procedures in place. | 00:57:57 | |
| And a big part of the review will be looking at whether or not. | 00:58:00 | |
| The city even does what we say we were going to do. | 00:58:04 | |
| As part of that, it'll also be looking at whether or not there are any areas. | 00:58:07 | |
| Especially in high risk areas. | 00:58:13 | |
| Potential fraud. | 00:58:16 | |
| So he'll be reviewing. | 00:58:17 | |
| Transactions in seven different areas. Those areas are listed in the. | 00:58:19 | |
| The available documentation. | 00:58:24 | |
| And. | 00:58:28 | |
| And. | 00:58:31 | |
| And then the the last thing that, well, no, two more things. | 00:58:34 | |
| That we'll also be making recommendations to us after those reviews on areas that we can improve. So we'll be making policy | 00:58:36 | |
| recommendations. | 00:58:40 | |
| So that we can. | 00:58:45 | |
| When needed, improve. | 00:58:47 | |
| The way that we run the city. | 00:58:49 | |
| And then lastly is recommendations on how to form an audit committee within the city. | 00:58:52 | |
| And the purpose of an audit committee would be? | 00:59:01 | |
| Just that it would be a committee that it helps facilitate. | 00:59:03 | |
| Understanding how we operate and that we are in compliance with the with those rules. | 00:59:07 | |
| And procedures that we have. | 00:59:12 | |
| I believe that we that we have. | 00:59:18 | |
| A great opportunity here. | 00:59:21 | |
| To bring to light. | 00:59:22 | |
| Any and all. | 00:59:25 | |
| Issues that. | 00:59:27 | |
| That may exist in the city. | 00:59:28 | |
| And and we, we've also asked that. | 00:59:30 | |
| Our schedule for delivery on this. | 00:59:35 | |
| Is before the end of the year. | 00:59:38 | |
| Quite frankly. | 00:59:42 | |
| The reasoning behind that is that. | 00:59:43 | |
| In in the coming year, we'll have a new administration. | 00:59:47 | |
| And it's my opinion. | 00:59:50 | |
| That that new administration should be equipped with. | 00:59:52 | |
| The results? | 00:59:56 | |
| So that they can establish any new policies or procedures. | 00:59:58 | |
| They can establish how they want to govern. | 01:00:01 | |
| With that information, if they had to wait another three months for it, I believe that makes it much more difficult for them to. | 01:00:05 | |
| To establish how they would want to govern our city. | 01:00:12 | |
| I think that's everything that I that I had that I want to say. So I, I guess we open it up for any. | 01:00:17 | |
| Any questions? | 01:00:22 | |
| Now, thank you so much for taking this on. You've done such a thorough job and. | 01:00:23 | |
| Chris, just reviewing everything. We're so excited that your name was. | 01:00:28 | |
| Put forward. | 01:00:31 | |
| This is something that we have. | 01:00:34 | |
| Wanted to put out there. | 01:00:36 | |
| So that like. | 01:00:38 | |
| Brett said. We can make sure that as we continue to grow. | 01:00:39 | |
| At such an exceeding rate. | 01:00:43 | |
| And as a young commitment. | 01:00:46 | |
| Community really, and we've just been building and creating departments. | 01:00:47 | |
| That we are taking the steps to make sure that. | 01:00:52 | |
| What we do? | 01:00:55 | |
| Is transparent. | 01:00:56 | |
| And straightforward. | 01:00:57 | |
| And efficient so that the people of Vineyard can. | 01:00:59 | |
| Know that their taxpayer dollars are going to provide and serve them. | 01:01:02 | |
| The very best. | 01:01:06 | |
| That we can as. | 01:01:07 | |
| Fellow neighbors. | 01:01:10 | |
| Because we all care about this. | 01:01:11 | |
| So with that Council, do you have any questions, any comments? | 01:01:13 | |
| Otherwise I will need a motion. | 01:01:18 | |
| Yeah. Are are you open to answer your question? | 01:01:20 | |
| Yeah. | 01:01:23 | |
| First off, you come highly recommended. | 01:01:27 | |
| Thank you. | 01:01:30 | |
| I know by myself. | 01:01:31 | |
| In Full disclosure, you've audited public surplus on a few different things in different positions. | 01:01:33 | |
| Anyway, you've got. | 01:01:40 | |
| My company that I used to work but I still work for. | 01:01:41 | |
| But there's no connection I you don't know me. | 01:01:46 | |
| 2nd. | 01:01:49 | |
| You know, picture online, you've lost a lot of weight. So I did, yes. I had a surgery last year. I was having some health | 01:01:50 | |
| problems, not that. | 01:01:53 | |
| I don't care, but yes, I have and. | 01:01:57 | |
| Yeah, like a whole. | 01:02:02 | |
| Capital of man life. | 01:02:03 | |
| So most people, when they do that, they update their picture, 'cause you're so skinny. | 01:02:04 | |
| You know, I've updated on the county website, but I've. | 01:02:08 | |
| We need to lose weight so. | 01:02:12 | |
| In calling a lot of your colleagues, I. | 01:02:17 | |
| Gained a lot of trust in your background and. | 01:02:20 | |
| And who you are as a. | 01:02:22 | |
| Person. | 01:02:24 | |
| And also. | 01:02:25 | |
| As I met with. | 01:02:27 | |
| Councilmember Clawson yesterday was. | 01:02:29 | |
| Pretty in depth and very wide-ranging and very. | 01:02:32 | |
| Hard hitting. | 01:02:37 | |
| And I would just say that I respect and gained a lot of trust for Council. | 01:02:39 | |
| Awesome. My question. | 01:02:45 | |
| To you is. | 01:02:47 | |
| Having. | 01:02:49 | |
| Done this or gone after or going through this review? | 01:02:51 | |
| And responding to the RFP, what are? | 01:02:55 | |
| Your hopes? | 01:02:58 | |
| To accomplish or have you done this before? Yeah. | 01:02:59 | |
| My goal is to to provide a beneficial. | 01:03:05 | |
| Service. It's not necessarily to. | 01:03:09 | |
| Give the city a black eye or to find a fraudster. | 01:03:12 | |
| But it's. | 01:03:16 | |
| Kind of a partnership, both. | 01:03:18 | |
| Educationally and a process to improve. That's what I love about. | 01:03:21 | |
| Auditing at the local level as a federal auditor for. | 01:03:25 | |
| 16 years auditing. | 01:03:28 | |
| Defense contractors throughout the Valley, overseas I was. | 01:03:30 | |
| Dugway Proving Grounds internal auditor and then. | 01:03:34 | |
| Before I came to the Salt Lake County, I. | 01:03:37 | |
| Was part of the Treasury Inspector General for. | 01:03:40 | |
| Tax administration. It's a long name, but. | 01:03:42 | |
| We all at the IRS. | 01:03:45 | |
| And and and it was nice we'd have. | 01:03:46 | |
| Great findings that you write a report in the federal government and it just. | 01:03:49 | |
| Kind of goes off right there. You might see it on your web page, but. | 01:03:52 | |
| There's no interaction with. | 01:03:56 | |
| Who it's really affecting? | 01:03:58 | |
| But at the local level. | 01:04:00 | |
| It is extremely fulfilling as an auditor. | 01:04:01 | |
| To write an audit report to have some findings. | 01:04:04 | |
| And then see for example like. | 01:04:07 | |
| At a City Council meeting or. | 01:04:08 | |
| The County Council. | 01:04:10 | |
| Where you're presenting your findings. | 01:04:12 | |
| And then they pass an ordinance or write a policy. | 01:04:15 | |
| Or, heaven forbid, discipline an employee. | 01:04:19 | |
| These don't happen in the County Council meeting, but. | 01:04:22 | |
| You see your work? | 01:04:25 | |
| Take effect. | 01:04:27 | |
| So, so that's kind of the. | 01:04:29 | |
| I don't know, symbiotic relationship for me is to kind of. | 01:04:31 | |
| See some effect? Take change, but then also to. | 01:04:34 | |
| Provide a service. | 01:04:38 | |
| Help bring an entity up to. | 01:04:39 | |
| Parkes for auditors, this stuff is like. | 01:04:42 | |
| Second hand nature, you know. | 01:04:46 | |
| Give an example to Brett when we were talking like. | 01:04:48 | |
| Auditors kind of take it for granted that. | 01:04:51 | |
| No one. One person shouldn't be. | 01:04:53 | |
| Taking cash over the counter. | 01:04:56 | |
| Making the deposits and doing the reconciliation but. | 01:04:58 | |
| Even in a big entity like Salt Lake County. | 01:05:01 | |
| Stuff like that. | 01:05:04 | |
| Happens all the time. | 01:05:06 | |
| Because people are concerned about. | 01:05:07 | |
| Aging and Adult Services, or. | 01:05:10 | |
| Homeless folks or. | 01:05:12 | |
| Whatever. | 01:05:14 | |
| Their profession may be. | 01:05:15 | |
| But auditors were always thinking like. | 01:05:17 | |
| How do we? | 01:05:20 | |
| Mitigate the risk of fraud, waste and abuse so. | 01:05:21 | |
| That's really all I'm hoping to get out of it. | 01:05:24 | |
| My, I don't think, you know, meeting with Seth and the state auditor. | 01:05:29 | |
| I'm I'm OK with the fraud side of things just because of how we vote in high level. | 01:05:34 | |
| You know, we voted for all of the spending that we did. | 01:05:40 | |
| And one of the reasons and I came out very hard against this, but then after meeting with Brett and seeing the reduction in price | 01:05:43 | |
| and also seeing that it aligns more with the. | 01:05:48 | |
| State auditors recommendations. | 01:05:53 | |
| It gets very close to being me. Yes, I've like twirled in this all day. In fact, I literally don't know what I did about right | 01:05:55 | |
| now. | 01:05:58 | |
| 'Cause I'm I'm that close. | 01:06:02 | |
| And also from the olive branch from Brett reaching out and just talking through it. | 01:06:04 | |
| But on the definition, I guess my eternal struggle is on. | 01:06:09 | |
| You know, I've worked in the National League of Cities for 18 years. How do you define? | 01:06:16 | |
| Waste if if a council has voted on that this is a priority. | 01:06:21 | |
| Every. I mean Park City is different from West Valley and. | 01:06:28 | |
| Yeah, you know, like. | 01:06:32 | |
| What is that definition? Because it's like. | 01:06:34 | |
| And not like that, but voted upon spending. | 01:06:36 | |
| We already know that it was all. | 01:06:40 | |
| Everything that we've spent was been voted on so. | 01:06:42 | |
| Who are you to say that it's? | 01:06:45 | |
| Waste. If the Council therefore has already approved it, that's no problem. | 01:06:47 | |
| And that is a. | 01:06:51 | |
| And I don't know the area, so here here's. | 01:06:53 | |
| Oh, you guys are gonna have to get used to this coming from the mind of Chris Harding. | 01:06:57 | |
| So it is different. | 01:07:03 | |
| Vineyard City is different from Park City. | 01:07:04 | |
| And and I would say. | 01:07:07 | |
| Defining waste it. | 01:07:08 | |
| It all depends because you have to look at the situation. What entity are you looking at? | 01:07:10 | |
| Oh, and here's one. | 01:07:15 | |
| You're going to get it so. | 01:07:17 | |
| How the Supreme Court define *********** it's hard to define. | 01:07:19 | |
| But you know when you see it. | 01:07:23 | |
| And that's the way it is when you're looking at an entity. | 01:07:25 | |
| And you've kind of got some context of what's going on. | 01:07:28 | |
| You know. | 01:07:31 | |
| A city budget. | 01:07:33 | |
| Like Frobenius, might be a rounding error. | 01:07:35 | |
| For a company like Apple. | 01:07:37 | |
| And, and once you're in there and you're looking at, well, what's really material, what? | 01:07:39 | |
| Judgments. Do they have to work with? What information do they have to work with? | 01:07:45 | |
| I I don't want to see the auditors place is to tell an entity what to do. | 01:07:50 | |
| But to say what? | 01:07:55 | |
| What looks reasonable? | 01:07:56 | |
| What information do they have available? | 01:07:58 | |
| Mike, when we're auditing a. | 01:08:01 | |
| A defense contract years ago in my federal service. | 01:08:04 | |
| We weren't trying to second guess but. | 01:08:07 | |
| The contractor would come in and say. | 01:08:09 | |
| You know we're going to charge you. | 01:08:11 | |
| $400.00 for a hammer and $600.00 for a toilet seat. | 01:08:14 | |
| And we'd go out there and look at the information, what's the comparable pricing of for labor rates or indirect rates? | 01:08:18 | |
| And then we kind of just put those facts out there. Here's what you're proposing. | 01:08:24 | |
| Here's what. | 01:08:28 | |
| The information that we found. | 01:08:29 | |
| And then we questioned the. | 01:08:31 | |
| The difference and call it question cost. | 01:08:32 | |
| It's kind of the same way we look at the information that's presented to us. | 01:08:35 | |
| Look at the policies that the city has information. | 01:08:40 | |
| What support they have and invoices. | 01:08:43 | |
| And and just kind of make. | 01:08:46 | |
| Recommendations. | 01:08:48 | |
| But again, I don't think the auditor's place. | 01:08:50 | |
| You guys are the policymakers, right? We will present facts to you. | 01:08:52 | |
| With recommendations, best practices. | 01:08:56 | |
| And kind of leave it up to you to make that. | 01:08:59 | |
| That judgment call. | 01:09:01 | |
| If I could just add to the internal auditor functions such as this. | 01:09:04 | |
| Is a little bit different. | 01:09:08 | |
| Auditing and what the? | 01:09:10 | |
| State auditor might. | 01:09:12 | |
| The there's going to be, especially with agreed upon procedures. | 01:09:14 | |
| There might be questions of hate. We've come to this. | 01:09:19 | |
| A branch in the audit work. | 01:09:23 | |
| We could go this way. We could go this way. So we talked with the. | 01:09:24 | |
| I'm going to call it the quasi audit committee right now, those who put out the announcement. | 01:09:28 | |
| And say you know. | 01:09:32 | |
| What would best serve your needs? | 01:09:33 | |
| And our language will be a little bit different. | 01:09:35 | |
| We're going to see opportunities for improvement here. We recommend this. | 01:09:38 | |
| Where is the state auditor might come out and say. | 01:09:42 | |
| They're saying to be fell to this. They were negligent in this. | 01:09:45 | |
| It's a little bit different. | 01:09:48 | |
| Not that we're trying to. | 01:09:50 | |
| Diminish the findings for. | 01:09:51 | |
| Downplay them, but it's. | 01:09:54 | |
| It's a different. | 01:09:56 | |
| Type of auditing. They're more of an external auditor. | 01:09:58 | |
| Right. Whereas we're internal, kind of. | 01:10:01 | |
| Here for your benefit, although our reports are going to be made. | 01:10:05 | |
| Public I only one more one more question, which is. | 01:10:08 | |
| And I spoke with Brett about this and I don't want to speak about this in open forum because it talks about closed door session | 01:10:13 | |
| topics. | 01:10:17 | |
| But as long as I get the confirmation that me and Brett can meet with you to go over. | 01:10:21 | |
| And we didn't settle on a word, but. | 01:10:27 | |
| A Prop. | 01:10:30 | |
| Let's see where we talked about yesterday. | 01:10:33 | |
| I think we were. We were talking about how. | 01:10:36 | |
| See, now you put me on the spot. I can't remember. | 01:10:38 | |
| I don't wanna use the word. We were using the. | 01:10:41 | |
| But it was essentially compliance with our compliance. I'm using wrong? That's not the same word we used yesterday. How to how? | 01:10:45 | |
| Yeah, with our yeah, with our own policies and just. | 01:10:52 | |
| Why? As a board member? | 01:10:58 | |
| Getting information like a lot of this isn't. | 01:11:02 | |
| That all of this spending was like I complete, I continue to repeat. This was voted on. | 01:11:05 | |
| And so it hits all thresholds. | 01:11:11 | |
| But it's how did. | 01:11:14 | |
| How did? | 01:11:15 | |
| How did little information know about it? | 01:11:16 | |
| And then even as a. | 01:11:19 | |
| Board member. | 01:11:21 | |
| Getting the information. | 01:11:23 | |
| So that's not a tug of war. | 01:11:24 | |
| Of that process like our policies in place so that. | 01:11:27 | |
| Quick and easy to get this information instead of. | 01:11:31 | |
| A long time, so if I can get that. | 01:11:34 | |
| Every council member can meet with you and. | 01:11:36 | |
| Or at least at the beginning and go through and say these are the. | 01:11:39 | |
| Policies. | 01:11:42 | |
| Or procedures that I feel were failing. | 01:11:43 | |
| Is it a lack of information? Is a lack of our code? Is it lack of? | 01:11:46 | |
| Or or am I mistaken that? | 01:11:50 | |
| That's just common practice and. | 01:11:52 | |
| You know, maybe I'm wrong, so I think. | 01:11:54 | |
| If that's the review process and we're talking about. | 01:11:56 | |
| A reduction of 45,000. I think you've got my vote. | 01:12:00 | |
| From my perspective and I. | 01:12:04 | |
| Oh Crystal, look for confirmation for. | 01:12:06 | |
| But from my perspective, that's. | 01:12:10 | |
| Absolutely on the table to have those discussions. | 01:12:12 | |
| And I I would even. | 01:12:15 | |
| I wonder. | 01:12:17 | |
| If we're having a meeting with any council member, they bring forward OK, this is a specific thing I'm concerned about. | 01:12:18 | |
| Is there any reason that you wouldn't? | 01:12:25 | |
| Go look at that. | 01:12:27 | |
| Yeah, no, for sure. That's I think. | 01:12:28 | |
| Part of an auditor's duty is. | 01:12:31 | |
| An audit is meant to be. | 01:12:33 | |
| Changeable. | 01:12:37 | |
| To adapt to the situation. | 01:12:38 | |
| If we're rooting around. | 01:12:41 | |
| In an area. | 01:12:43 | |
| And something comes up that either we find or. | 01:12:44 | |
| I mean, that's how. | 01:12:47 | |
| Broadway synthesis often found is. | 01:12:49 | |
| The auditors doing something. | 01:12:51 | |
| And an employee, disgruntled or otherwise, comes up and says. | 01:12:53 | |
| You should look over here in this closet. | 01:12:57 | |
| And that was my last, that was my last question. It was like whistleblowers for people is there is there would you be putting out | 01:13:00 | |
| some sort of e-mail or phone number to? | 01:13:04 | |
| Reach or connect to you that they would feel comfortable coming forward. | 01:13:08 | |
| Oh yeah, yeah, my. | 01:13:11 | |
| Cell phone number is. | 01:13:15 | |
| In there I can give it to you right now and. | 01:13:16 | |
| Anybody can call me? | 01:13:19 | |
| I'm sure you could Google it, it's probably there too. | 01:13:21 | |
| Yeah, e-mail, text me. | 01:13:24 | |
| OK, all hours of the night I'm. | 01:13:25 | |
| Happy to respond. I I love auditing so. | 01:13:28 | |
| OK, thank you. And I just maybe we won't call you all hours, you might not get a response, Alexis and. | 01:13:30 | |
| And I just want to make a public. | 01:13:39 | |
| Rescinding of my. | 01:13:41 | |
| Of previous things. | 01:13:43 | |
| And just thank Councilmember Clawson for. | 01:13:45 | |
| His dedication to sit down and go through. | 01:13:48 | |
| And hear me out. | 01:13:51 | |
| And give me the respect that. | 01:13:53 | |
| That I felt the issue. | 01:13:55 | |
| Needed. | 01:13:58 | |
| And I I. | 01:13:58 | |
| Me and Brett do not vote on almost anything. | 01:14:00 | |
| But we do vote and agree upon respect. I appreciate that. | 01:14:04 | |
| I do have a question. | 01:14:09 | |
| So one of the discussions that we had tonight was you'll look into things and that's as far as the scope goes. | 01:14:10 | |
| If it fits in the scope. If we need to look into additional. | 01:14:18 | |
| It would come back to the Council for review, or would that remain? | 01:14:21 | |
| In your purview. | 01:14:25 | |
| To extend the contractors, we've already approved the funds. | 01:14:26 | |
| What is that process? | 01:14:30 | |
| From my standpoint that would be in the. | 01:14:34 | |
| In the. | 01:14:37 | |
| Audit committees. | 01:14:38 | |
| Or whatever we're discussing. | 01:14:40 | |
| It would be within their discretion and that's why we're proving an up to amount rather than. | 01:14:42 | |
| A specific amount. | 01:14:47 | |
| Because that leads to some flexibility in the. | 01:14:49 | |
| In the contract to add in. | 01:14:52 | |
| Elements as needed. OK, I just wanted to make that clear because Jake mentioned he was happy about the reduction down to 45,000. | 01:14:55 | |
| And I wanted you to be aware that it's. | 01:15:03 | |
| Additional asking that came in that that discretion might open that back up to the original a lot of them out. | 01:15:05 | |
| Is that something that the Council would like to discuss? | 01:15:12 | |
| Under the 45, there's some room. | 01:15:14 | |
| We are, we already have, but we're keeping it at the 45, not to the. I don't think we need to go above that right now, OK. | 01:15:17 | |
| As long as we remain there. | 01:15:24 | |
| I saw that it was. | 01:15:25 | |
| If we had enough things come up that we felt like we were going to need to pass that number, I think it would have to come back to | 01:15:27 | |
| council. | 01:15:31 | |
| OK, so right now everything that you're talking about will not exceed. | 01:15:34 | |
| Correct. OK. | 01:15:39 | |
| Awesome. Any other questions for the Council? | 01:15:41 | |
| Yeah. So just for clarification for the public. | 01:15:44 | |
| The audit that we're working on will be going back. | 01:15:48 | |
| Is it 2 years or? | 01:15:51 | |
| FY23 and 24. | 01:15:53 | |
| OK. | 01:15:55 | |
| And and then you won't be combing through every single transaction in the city, you'll be taking more of a sampling. | 01:15:56 | |
| Right, there's a few areas where. | 01:16:02 | |
| We're looking at just because of the amount of transactions of the area. I want to say like. | 01:16:05 | |
| RDA. | 01:16:09 | |
| 17 invoices so. | 01:16:11 | |
| I'm going to look all of them. We are going to look at all of them. | 01:16:14 | |
| I do appreciate in the contract. | 01:16:18 | |
| Seeing the different areas you're going to focus on like the P card transactions and. | 01:16:21 | |
| The employee traveler reimburse. | 01:16:26 | |
| And I guess, and we've already did kind of already hit on this a little bit and Brett did too. | 01:16:29 | |
| Just with policy recommendations. | 01:16:35 | |
| What do you Is there like something that you find the most common? | 01:16:37 | |
| Policy change or maybe failure in policy with cities? | 01:16:43 | |
| It's mostly that it's it's not there again. | 01:16:48 | |
| That the folks are worried about. | 01:16:51 | |
| You know, paving the streets or. | 01:16:53 | |
| Fixing a trail. They're not auditors. So when we come in, we're like. | 01:16:56 | |
| Why are you doing it this way? And it's like. | 01:17:00 | |
| What? My predecessor did it this way for 10 years, and this is how they trained me and told me it's like, well, yeah. Well, | 01:17:04 | |
| where's that written down? Well, it's not written down. | 01:17:07 | |
| Let me say, OK, probably be good recommendation for you to establish a policy. Write some of this stuff down. | 01:17:11 | |
| Because that's the only way you can hold people accountable. | 01:17:18 | |
| For the public. | 01:17:21 | |
| To make sure that there's transparency, that this is how the city is supposed to be doing stuff. | 01:17:22 | |
| So. And I'm gonna. | 01:17:27 | |
| Tell you it's it's amazing. | 01:17:29 | |
| Policies that That's low hanging fruit for an auditor in a big. | 01:17:31 | |
| Entity like Salt Lake County. | 01:17:36 | |
| Every audit. | 01:17:37 | |
| That that we do. We do. | 01:17:39 | |
| About 20 some odd audits a year. Every audit. | 01:17:41 | |
| There's either missing policies. | 01:17:44 | |
| Or they're they're not following policies that. | 01:17:47 | |
| Things have kind of changed how they do stuff and. | 01:17:49 | |
| We say you've either got to change how you're doing stuff, or you've got to rewrite your policy so they're in alignment. | 01:17:52 | |
| So with a city like Vineyard. | 01:17:58 | |
| And probably any city throughout Utah. | 01:18:00 | |
| It's it's going to be similar because. | 01:18:03 | |
| Folks are worried about. | 01:18:06 | |
| Running the government they're not. | 01:18:07 | |
| Auditors but. | 01:18:09 | |
| Yeah. | 01:18:11 | |
| Might seem a little scary and painful, but it's not. | 01:18:13 | |
| That's not it's exciting. | 01:18:16 | |
| Especially because we have new people coming in and we really want to make sure that there's this foundation here, I feel like. | 01:18:18 | |
| Every year we've grown by so much and new policies come every year and it's really what our whole job is this. | 01:18:25 | |
| Do we have enough policy? Do we have right fees? Do we have everything? So having an expert come in and detail that for us and | 01:18:32 | |
| really make sure we're on a sure. | 01:18:36 | |
| Foundation, I think is all right. | 01:18:40 | |
| Is what we want. | 01:18:42 | |
| I I just wanted to say one last. | 01:18:44 | |
| Brett, I've been really impressed with all of your work on this. | 01:18:46 | |
| You took on a big project and I. | 01:18:52 | |
| I've been really grateful for your communication and. | 01:18:54 | |
| I think it looks really great. | 01:18:58 | |
| I love that we got the cost down I. | 01:18:59 | |
| I'm really happy with our applicant or. | 01:19:02 | |
| Not applicant the person that we're approving. | 01:19:04 | |
| And, umm. | 01:19:07 | |
| I just really think Brett needs that recognition. | 01:19:08 | |
| Not that you need the recognition, I want to give you the recognition. | 01:19:11 | |
| Grateful for your hard work. | 01:19:15 | |
| Thank you. | 01:19:16 | |
| Yes. And Chris, update your picture. | 01:19:18 | |
| I will. I will update my. Which one are you looking at? It's all. | 01:19:21 | |
| It's all I was writing in an elevator the other day and someone. | 01:19:27 | |
| Read upon sign all these two and I hope 12 people and I was like yeah, or like 5 Hardings and they kind of looked at me because | 01:19:31 | |
| that's a joke I would make when I was. | 01:19:35 | |
| Twice the size and then get a chuckle, but they kind of looked at me. | 01:19:39 | |
| Sorry. | 01:19:44 | |
| Any other questions? | 01:19:46 | |
| All right, all right, if there are no other questions. | 01:19:47 | |
| I need a motion. | 01:19:51 | |
| Thank you so much, Chris. | 01:19:54 | |
| I moved to adopt Resolution 2025-41 authorizing the city manager to. | 01:20:02 | |
| Execute an agreement not to exceed $45,000 for. | 01:20:08 | |
| Independent audit services with CPA Insight solutions. | 01:20:11 | |
| As outlined in RFP #2025-61-101. | 01:20:15 | |
| City Council acknowledges that. | 01:20:22 | |
| The audit engagement is intended to implement. | 01:20:24 | |
| Not duplicate that. | 01:20:27 | |
| I don't think that's written right. | 01:20:29 | |
| Not duplicate the the work of the state Otter. | 01:20:31 | |
| I think that that's right, David, because it's not. The engagement is intended to implement, not duplicate the. | 01:20:35 | |
| Work with state auditor. | 01:20:41 | |
| That's what we wanted to say. | 01:20:44 | |
| What did you want it to say? | 01:20:45 | |
| Because it's your motion. | 01:20:47 | |
| I would say supplement. | 01:20:48 | |
| OK, reread the last sentence. | 01:20:51 | |
| The City Council acknowledges that the audit engagement is intended to supplement. | 01:20:54 | |
| Not duplicate the work of the state auditor. | 01:20:58 | |
| All right, we have a 1st 5 breaths. | 01:21:02 | |
| Can I get a second? | 01:21:05 | |
| Second Second by Sarah. | 01:21:08 | |
| And I'll do this by roll call. | 01:21:10 | |
| Sarah Aye. | 01:21:12 | |
| Marty, hi. | 01:21:13 | |
| Aye, Brett, Aye, Jake. | 01:21:14 | |
| I alright, that's excellent. | 01:21:16 | |
| Just to wrap this up. | 01:21:21 | |
| Was there anything that needed to be reported or anything that you were hoping to see on the next? | 01:21:22 | |
| On future agendas, making aware of it. | 01:21:28 | |
| I wanted to talk more about agenda timelines and. | 01:21:32 | |
| The. | 01:21:38 | |
| The amount of time we get. | 01:21:39 | |
| The public gets to see the agenda. | 01:21:41 | |
| I would like to consider. | 01:21:44 | |
| Changing. | 01:21:47 | |
| OK. Potentially even changing the dates of our meetings? | 01:21:49 | |
| To help it work with stuff. | 01:21:52 | |
| OK, great. | 01:21:55 | |
| Anybody else? | 01:21:57 | |
| No. Did you guys have anything to report on from your? | 01:21:58 | |
| Positions, I'll just go again. | 01:22:02 | |
| The Heritage Trail. | 01:22:06 | |
| Nobody was super. | 01:22:08 | |
| Thank you for everyone's hard work on that. | 01:22:10 | |
| And then? | 01:22:12 | |
| I got to go. | 01:22:14 | |
| I forget what it's called. | 01:22:16 | |
| A homeless tour walkabout. | 01:22:19 | |
| Where I got to meet with other legislators and. | 01:22:22 | |
| Members of different organizations within the county and I thought it was very, very. | 01:22:27 | |
| This is very interesting and. | 01:22:33 | |
| I just want to publicly thank. | 01:22:36 | |
| Provost City and Utah County government. | 01:22:39 | |
| For all of their hard work. | 01:22:41 | |
| And I want to thank Vineyard for supporting that hard work to keep. | 01:22:43 | |
| It's a big task that. | 01:22:49 | |
| Provo in Utah County are working on. | 01:22:51 | |
| And I know that. | 01:22:54 | |
| Their hard work really helps our city stay safe. | 01:22:55 | |
| And really helps the people struggling in these situations so. | 01:22:58 | |
| All right. Anybody else? | 01:23:04 | |
| Jay, did you have anything? | 01:23:07 | |
| Right, OK. | 01:23:08 | |
| Our meeting is adjourned. Thank you so much for coming tonight. | 01:23:11 |