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OK. 00:10:21
All righty. 00:10:29
Welcome out everybody. We are going to call to order the City Council meeting. It's June 23rd, 2026 at. 00:10:31
6:03 PM. 00:10:38
I've asked. 00:10:41
David Height. 00:10:42
To say the. 00:10:43
Opening prayer and pledge. 00:10:44
And then? 00:10:46
You're going to get a cool flag pin. 00:10:47
So Yep, come on up and. 00:10:49
Per them pledge. Thank you so much brother. 00:10:52
Our dear, gracious heavenly Father, we come before thee in gratitude to be here as a. 00:10:58
As a neighborhood. 00:11:03
To. 00:11:05
Represent the city of Vineyard that we love. We ask her to please bless that Thy Spirit will be with us. 00:11:06
Please. 00:11:12
Help our our ears to listen, open our ears to listen and. 00:11:14
And our hearts to understand as we discuss the city and what's best for it. 00:11:18
Plus our councilmen, each of them. 00:11:23
As they. 00:11:26
Continue to. 00:11:27
Try to do what's truly best for this city. 00:11:29
Help us to. 00:11:32
Be good examples to everyone around us, especially our neighbors. 00:11:34
And we pray for these things. The name of thy Son, Jesus Christ, Amen. 00:11:38
Amen. 00:11:41
I pledge allegiance to the flag. 00:11:51
Of the United States of America. 00:11:53
And to the Republic. 00:11:56
One nation under God. 00:11:58
Individual. 00:12:01
With liberty and justice for all. 00:12:02
Awesome. Thank you. 00:12:05
Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate that. Oh, hey. 00:12:07
David, you got to get your pin. 00:12:10
Yeah. 00:12:11
Thought that was maybe the end thing. No no, I'd say we we right here. 00:12:12
It's the real deal. 00:12:18
OK, all righty, we are gonna do. 00:12:19
Start off, change up the agenda a little bit. I'm going to have a presentation and recognition of the library board. I'm going to 00:12:21
turn the time over. Brian, are you here to talk about that? Come on up and kind of walk us through this and. 00:12:27
And. 00:12:32
Now this is awesome. Super excited. 00:12:33
Thank you, Mayor and council. My name is Brian Vaudrey. I just wanted to stand in. 00:12:35
We have reached the milestone here in Vineyard to get the Vineyard Library certified. 00:12:40
That's consisted of a major three-year project. 00:12:46
So there's a lot of work that's required in order to. 00:12:49
To hit that point, it requires years of work and data collection reporting. 00:12:52
Policy development. 00:12:57
Programming growth. 00:12:58
Operational standards and community engagement. 00:13:00
This is really awesome for the city because it means that we. 00:13:03
We meet the same statewide operational standards the established public libraries have throughout Utah that they follow. 00:13:07
And it also opens the door to a lot more funding opportunities for state and federal funding. 00:13:15
Resources, partnerships and really future growth for. 00:13:22
Library services. 00:13:25
Just want to. 00:13:28
Thank Valerie and the library board. 00:13:30
Many of them are here, and for all of their phenomenal work, they've put in a lot of. 00:13:33
A lot of time to get the city to this point and and it really is a huge win so. 00:13:38
If we can just give them a round of applause really quick. 00:13:44
Valerie, is there anything that you wanted to say? 00:13:54
No, thank you. 00:13:58
Perfect. OK. 00:14:01
Well, sounds great. 00:14:02
Awesome, let's do this. Can we take a picture? 00:14:03
Is that all right? I think this is definitely picture worthy, so let's have everyone on the. 00:14:05
Come on up. 00:14:09
Councils come down here, that be great. 00:14:10
You're wearing a BYU shirt my man. Great bro. 00:14:15
Or maybe not. 00:14:21
I think we usually, yeah. 00:14:26
Thanks, Mar. 00:14:32
All right. 00:14:47
Thank you guys. 00:14:53
Congratulations. 00:14:54
All righty. Thank you so much. 00:15:13
Yeah. 00:15:17
All righty, we are going to jump now to a. 00:15:19
Public hearing for the municipal code updates for the stormwater management. 00:15:21
So I'm going to, we need you a public hearing for that. So I'm going to open up the public hearing. 00:15:25
I now open the public hearing for the municipal code updates for stormwater management. 00:15:30
It does. Does it take a motion? 00:15:37
We do not need a motion. Robin looked it up. Awesome. 00:15:40
OK, awesome, so off we go. 00:15:44
OK, let's. 00:15:47
Is anyone wanting to speak to that? 00:15:49
I'm going to move this. 00:15:51
One man band. 00:16:01
OK. 00:16:04
That didn't sound good. 00:16:09
OK, no takers on that one. No problem. 00:16:16
Artist. So I'm going to close the public hearing for the stormwater management. 00:16:19
All right, we're going to jump now to #4 public hearing for the fiscal, the final fiscal year 20262027 budget. I know I'll open up 00:16:23
the public hearing. 00:16:28
For that. 00:16:32
If anyone would like to speak to that. 00:16:33
Please come on down to the microphone. 00:16:35
OK, good. 00:16:41
All right, we will. 00:16:43
Close that public hearing for the budget. 00:16:44
All righty now on #6 we're going to open up for public comments. 00:16:47
Anyone have public comments? 00:16:54
Do we have anybody sign up, Robin? 00:16:58
OK. 00:17:04
Awesome. 00:17:06
On to the next one. 00:17:08
OK #7. 00:17:10
Consent items can I get? 00:17:13
Anyone want to peel off any of these consent items to debate them or talk about them more? 00:17:15
OK. I will take a motion. 00:17:22
On those. 00:17:25
I move to approve the consent items as presented. 00:17:26
Awesome. First by Jake. Do I have a second? 00:17:29
Second. OK, all in favor. 00:17:31
Aye, OK. Consent items pass. 00:17:34
All righty, we're going to jump to #8 now. 00:17:37
Approve Ordinance 20. 00:17:39
26 Nine Stormwater management code update in a seam. I'm going to turn the. 00:17:42
Time over to you to go over this. 00:17:47
My dad. 00:17:59
So. 00:18:03
Thank you Sanuseum Ghidorah, Public Works Director. So the public works. 00:18:05
Department is presenting the A. 00:18:09
Revision. 00:18:12
Or update to our municipal code through amendment. It's Chapter 7 point. 00:18:13
08. 00:18:17
And this is specifically in regards to our stormwater. 00:18:20
Our stormwater management and as well as enforcement. 00:18:23
On that, I wanted to definitely give kudos, credits to Patrick James, our assistant city engineer. Who's not? 00:18:27
Who's not able to be here today? 00:18:33
As well as Kinsley McDermott, who is in the back. 00:18:35
There, who's taking on the role as the Ms. 4 coordinator? 00:18:38
As well as our. 00:18:41
As well as our outgoing Ms. 4 coordinator who has been fully supported. 00:18:43
Help helping support us. 00:18:47
Through. 00:18:49
Our updates. 00:18:50
So in short. 00:18:51
There we go. 00:18:53
In short, I just want to always emphasize our. 00:18:54
Emphasize our mission for public works about sustaining essential services as well as. 00:18:57
Protect. 00:19:02
Protecting citizens welfare and acceptable quality of life. So this falls. 00:19:04
Definitely into the welfare, welfare and quality of life aspect. 00:19:08
On that. 00:19:12
All these slides have been. 00:19:13
Provided on our on the agenda for preview by the council and the public, so I won't spend much time. 00:19:14
On any of these particular slides, but if. 00:19:21
Any if anyone wants me to elaborate on any particular point or slide please. 00:19:23
Do so. 00:19:29
On that but I thought this this graphic was very. 00:19:30
A representation representative of in terms of how important our stormwater management is. 00:19:32
And where everything ends up into our drinking water. 00:19:38
So. 00:19:44
Moving forward. 00:19:44
Why is this needed and short? It's needed because we do have a permit with the state. 00:19:45
What we call. 00:19:50
Our MS-4 permit. Don't ask me what MS-4 means because I keep forgetting it. It's municipal storm water. Separate storm water. 00:19:51
And then that's kind of where I stopped on that one. 00:19:59
So but. 00:20:01
It's a permit through the state through the Department of Water Quality. 00:20:03
On that, what the ordinance does in short, it. 00:20:09
Establish. Excuse me? It updates our chapter 7.08 and consolidates everything into a single chapter. 00:20:12
Talking in regards to authority. 00:20:18
Prep, illicit discharge. 00:20:20
Construction storm water. 00:20:23
Long term stormwater of maintenance requirements, inspections as well as enforcement. 00:20:25
On that and consolidate everything into single code chapter. 00:20:31
Kind of saying, why are we doing this update? Mainly because the state told us to do it. 00:20:35
So. 00:20:39
It's a state mandated. 00:20:41
Key program areas for this. 00:20:44
Area if anyone would like to you know, go and go to the details of course, if any resident. 00:20:47
Or Councilmember. 00:20:52
We're like we are happy set up one on ones too for education. 00:20:54
Separate from our public education efforts that we do throughout the year. 00:20:57
So it talks about listed discharge, construction stormwater and post construction stormwater. 00:21:01
The benefits of veneer city. 00:21:06
Is everything ends up into our into Utah Lake and what we were trying to do is improve the quality of water that goes into Utah 00:21:08
Lake. So we are protecting not only our natural resources, but our. 00:21:14
Welfare, our safety and welfare for because that's the water that we drink. 00:21:20
Than the day so. 00:21:25
In short, with this ordinance, there is one administrative change. I did my best to copy and paste the administrative change. 00:21:29
And to the ordinance, we got an e-mail this morning from the state. 00:21:36
With their. 00:21:40
Suggestion in terms of. 00:21:42
An update into our ordinance that they would like to see done. 00:21:45
And of course, that update does make sense and we made those changes. So Council on up there, we provide you the updated. 00:21:49
Marked with what's updated. This is really considered administrative change because it doesn't change. 00:21:56
The the. 00:22:01
In essence that. 00:22:04
The context. 00:22:06
What the ordinance does. 00:22:07
But as you can see it's specifically update. 00:22:09
Revision to Section 7.08. 00:22:12
.100 under illicit discharges and connections. 00:22:15
In short, it captures all the. 00:22:19
Types of discharges in our permit and. 00:22:22
States that. 00:22:26
Discharges are authorized underneath the vineyard. 00:22:28
MS-4 permit. 00:22:32
Which is issued by the state. 00:22:33
Our next steps after the. 00:22:35
The adoption of this ordinance. 00:22:37
Is to continue with our updating our city procedures for the standards and mostly with our contractors. 00:22:39
To ensure that compliance is being met. 00:22:46
And continue our implementation. 00:22:49
But more importantly, in bottom line, to support stormwater compliance and water quality protection. 00:22:51
So again there was a. 00:22:58
On our newsletter, there was an awesome awesome. 00:23:00
Public education outreach in regards to why so why? Why stormwater protection? 00:23:04
Under management, there we go. 00:23:11
And I felt the need that it would be proven for me to copy and paste that on here. 00:23:13
So, and at the end, small actions lead to big impacts. 00:23:18
That is my presentation. 00:23:23
Awesome. Thank you so much. Naseem. Any questions? 00:23:24
To counsel for NASIM on this or. 00:23:27
Anything regarding? 00:23:30
This ordinance. 00:23:33
OK, sounds good. So the motion to see we need a. 00:23:37
Adopt the motion as presented by staff. Is that correct? OK. 00:23:40
So can I get a motion? 00:23:43
On that. 00:23:45
Real quick. 00:23:48
Just for the public's benefit. 00:23:49
If you see somebody. 00:23:51
Dumping something down a storm drain. 00:23:54
Paint or liquids? What would you do to? 00:23:56
Make sure that doesn't happen in the future. 00:24:01
So if. 00:24:03
And again, Kinsley's here, she's a she's more happy to us talk specifics, but in short, we do on our website, we do have the 00:24:04
report concern we also have. 00:24:09
Phone number. 00:24:15
That Dallas to Kinsley back there. 00:24:16
So she gets to. 00:24:19
Respond to those calls day and night. 00:24:20
For something like that, they are also able to call the police. 00:24:23
Dispatch. 00:24:27
You're also able to call fire dispatch. 00:24:28
As well. 00:24:30
Specifically police, because if someone's actively doing it, we do want to make sure that we are able to do the enforcement 00:24:32
actions after fact because. 00:24:36
Cleanup does cost money. 00:24:39
And we would like to make sure that the people doing it. 00:24:41
Does pay for it if it's something that they see? 00:24:43
Action like so they didn't witness it happening but they see like. 00:24:47
Like oil chains and so forth. 00:24:51
They're able during the workdays, they're able to call the city office, contact public works. 00:24:53
We do have after hours. 00:24:59
During weekend nights and weekends as well as fire department is trained. 00:25:01
In order to respond to those items as well. 00:25:05
And they do reach out. We do have in our budget. 00:25:07
For listed discharge for large items. 00:25:10
Areas that we cannot do ourselves to take care of as well, but. 00:25:12
If we're able to. 00:25:17
Apprehend, say. 00:25:18
The bad actors during the fact. 00:25:19
That actually does help us. 00:25:22
Ensure that those. 00:25:24
Those people are being taken care of as well. 00:25:27
That's great. Thanks. 00:25:29
Awesome. Any further questions? 00:25:32
Great. Are we doing any social media on that? Like stormwater? 00:25:35
Have we done anything like that? 00:25:40
I think we did some stuff this spring, right? Yeah, I think we've done a few posts. 00:25:42
Over the spring. 00:25:47
Yeah, and it was in the newsletter, like the article they post in the news there was really awesome and kind of. 00:25:48
He goes to walk away from the South side of the of the valley, right and. 00:25:55
We lost 4 cows. 00:25:59
Four years ago. 00:26:01
In a week period and it does affect wildlife and so downstream it really does affect so teaching people don't put anything. 00:26:03
Makes wildlife and. 00:26:11
Cows sick, Yeah. 00:26:13
So I want to have a new headline. 00:26:16
Don't kill the cows. Don't kill animals. They do stay there like they go to our wetlands. They do. 00:26:19
I mean all of our, all of our streets. 00:26:25
You know, deposited into our precious wetlands and our birds are in there, so, you know. 00:26:27
All righty, I will call for a. 00:26:33
Motion on 8.1. 00:26:36
I make a motion to approve 8 business item 8.1 ordinance. 00:26:45
2609 Stormwater management code update as presented. 00:26:50
OK, second. 00:26:55
Awesome. All in favor no? 00:26:56
I'm sorry, we roll calling this one. 00:26:58
So, second by David Luray. Do we get that? 00:27:00
And let's do this roll call, Ezra. 00:27:02
I, David. 00:27:05
Jacob Wood, I am Jake I. 00:27:07
OK, ordinance passes. 00:27:09
All righty, let's jump into 8.2. 00:27:13
The fiscal. 00:27:15
Financial Budget. 00:27:17
Let's do this. 00:27:22
I'm going to turn the time over. 00:27:25
To Evan. 00:27:27
Thank you so much, first, Evan, for all the hard work you put into this budget. 00:27:28
A lot of long hours and. 00:27:33
And a lot of work has gone into this I. 00:27:37
Really truly appreciate this and all of staff. 00:27:38
It's been great so. 00:27:40
You want to walk us through? 00:27:42
Final. 00:27:44
Adjustments. 00:27:46
We made. 00:27:47
Yeah. Thank you, Mayor. I'm just trying to. 00:27:52
Bring this up here so we can. 00:27:54
Walk through the presentation. 00:27:57
Very similar presentation to what we had when we. 00:28:00
Oops, I just. 00:28:03
My mouse and. 00:28:04
Added a cool thing there. 00:28:06
I have the same summary presentation, just with the changes that we you know. 00:28:11
The updated numbers. 00:28:15
From what we did when we we had the tentative budget. 00:28:16
And there haven't been. 00:28:19
Large changes to that that you'll see in here. 00:28:22
A few expense. 00:28:26
Item changes. 00:28:27
And. 00:28:29
A little bit on the revenue side that we won't go so far into, but there were a couple of items. 00:28:31
On the grants that were removed. 00:28:36
Related to items on the CapEx list that were removed. 00:28:38
And largely, that was. 00:28:44
The big change, as well as not drawing on anything from the beginning. 00:28:45
Fund balance of the General Fund. 00:28:50
To. 00:28:53
To start out the year. 00:28:54
So largely everything on this. 00:28:57
Every actually everything on this sheet is the same. 00:29:00
And I can pause on some of these if there are questions about any of the revenue. 00:29:04
Forecasted tax revenues. 00:29:09
Revenues from permits and fees. 00:29:11
And then you've got. 00:29:14
Other as well that roll in here. 00:29:15
Again, we've got our pie chart. 00:29:24
Things didn't change a whole lot here from the the slices of the pie. 00:29:26
And if you're seeing this for the first time? 00:29:31
Police and fire, Public safety. 00:29:35
You know, are the largest chunks of our budget and and is for that's the way for most cities as well and so. 00:29:37
In fact, for all cities that I know. 00:29:45
And we're proud to invest in that in the public safety. 00:29:47
The one change here I want to point out. 00:29:52
From the tentative budget. 00:29:54
Is that that fire? 00:29:57
Budget has dropped. 00:29:59
A fairly significant amount. 00:30:02
I want to say it was about 180,000. 00:30:04
Does that sound right? 00:30:07
But this is. 00:30:08
Yeah, more or less so. 00:30:10
What that entails is. 00:30:13
Is not a decrease in our level of service, but. 00:30:14
When we built. 00:30:18
The. 00:30:19
The fire department, the bricks and mortar. 00:30:20
Department here. There was an overage of costs by about. 00:30:23
220,000 if I remember right. 00:30:27
And theorem. 00:30:30
Paid for on our behalf and then they were charging it back and so. 00:30:32
They were kind enough to to. 00:30:36
Finance that for us at 0% interest over five years. 00:30:40
And so we're able to reduce that cost that's hitting us this year in the budget. 00:30:44
And and it's sort of spread over. 00:30:48
The next four years as well. 00:30:51
That was the big change here. 00:30:53
And we appreciate that partnership with Orem. 00:30:56
OK. 00:31:01
Our capital projects list I've. 00:31:04
I've changed. 00:31:07
The the layout here based on some feedback from the first time. 00:31:08
Previously we just had everything bulleted out. 00:31:12
It listed the amounts, but what was missing there was. 00:31:15
Which fund these are coming out of and what the? 00:31:18
Department, so I've listed that out here. 00:31:20
And largely. 00:31:23
Same things are here. 00:31:25
As we're here in the tentative budget. 00:31:26
We just had. 00:31:28
The things removed that we discussed before. 00:31:30
That were related to delineation of wetlands. There were some things with with bike park and the. 00:31:32
The area that's north of Gammon Park. 00:31:40
And those were removed from from the budget based, you know that we discussed in prior meetings. 00:31:43
So we've got the items from the general fund. 00:31:50
The Impact Fee fund. 00:31:52
We've labeled this down here, it's not a separate fund, but the rap tax and the your grant. 00:31:55
That's called out separately, largely because. 00:32:01
Of the skate park. 00:32:05
That that's a fairly hefty expense. 00:32:06
That was approved before and we have a grant from York that's that's covering half of that. 00:32:09
The next sheet, we've got things labeled from the transportation fund. 00:32:17
Wastewater Fund. Water Fund. 00:32:20
And instead of reading through all these, since they're largely the same, I'm just. 00:32:27
Just letting you look at these. 00:32:31
And holler if you've got a question on it. 00:32:33
And the last sheet has things listed for the RDA. 00:32:38
And again, those are the same. 00:32:42
Has in the tentative budget. 00:32:46
We have the water fund overview. 00:32:50
And again. 00:32:52
You can see the. 00:32:53
The track how things were tracking over the last several years. 00:32:54
Expenses and revenues coming up a little bit on that this year. 00:32:59
The Wastewater fund. 00:33:03
Expenses come down. 00:33:06
Revenues up a little bit. 00:33:07
The Stormwater fund is is always one that's. 00:33:10
Tracking to operate in a bit of a deficit. 00:33:14
And so that continues on this year. 00:33:18
Transportation Fund. 00:33:24
We've talked before about the the removal of that that tough. 00:33:30
That was pulled out earlier in the year. 00:33:34
And. 00:33:37
How that's tracking? 00:33:42
Our internal service fund. 00:33:45
Down a little bit. 00:33:47
This year. 00:33:49
A little bit higher than it was in fiscal year 24. 00:33:51
And these are the items in the internal service fund. 00:33:54
Revenue largely showing what's coming in from from. 00:33:58
From other funds. 00:34:02
And the administration facilities fleet. 00:34:03
Information systems and human resources are. 00:34:07
Are the main things there. 00:34:10
Some of the. 00:34:13
Some departments will have. 00:34:14
Specific IT expenses if they know they're getting a new computer or. 00:34:16
Specific software like Adobe licenses and things like that, but. 00:34:22
Most of it. 00:34:25
Is resides in this. 00:34:26
This main bucket. 00:34:28
And that's it. 00:34:33
We move through that fairly quick. 00:34:34
But again, awesome, Thank you. Similar to the tentative budget. 00:34:36
OK, I will open this up to Council for discussion. 00:34:40
Chat about this again. Thank you for your hard work on the seven, really appreciate it. 00:34:43
I'd like to go first. I can go first. Yeah, go ahead. 00:34:50
Want to thank staff, I know it's been tough. 00:34:54
Dealing with. 00:34:56
You know, we just hired you, Brian, a couple of weeks ago. 00:34:57
Evan a couple months ago. 00:35:01
Now you guys have been dealing with a lot of turnover, so thank you for for everything you've been able to provide when you've 00:35:02
been able to provide it. 00:35:04
It's been incredibly helpful and. 00:35:07
Helping me. 00:35:11
Review and. 00:35:12
Kind of make suggestions and propose changes to this. 00:35:14
I do have. 00:35:18
Some suggestions? 00:35:20
I know. 00:35:22
A lot of the members of this council have expressed a desire to. 00:35:24
You know, reduce property taxes. 00:35:28
So, uh. 00:35:30
Considering that, I decided to. 00:35:32
Put together. 00:35:34
A few different options for budget proposals that. 00:35:35
That would reduce. 00:35:39
Property taxes. 00:35:40
Provide a. 00:35:42
Meaningful cuts to the certified rate, which would. 00:35:43
In turn, lower property taxes for. 00:35:46
For our citizens. 00:35:48
And I wanted to give some options. I don't believe in just. 00:35:51
Showing up to. 00:35:54
A budget and voting no because I don't like it. 00:35:56
Without proposing. 00:35:58
Alternate solutions. 00:36:00
I know we have to. 00:36:01
Establish the budget by the end of the month. 00:36:04
So we do have. 00:36:06
You know, one more Tuesday where we could potentially continue this if we wanted. 00:36:08
Another week to. 00:36:12
Adopt the budget. 00:36:15
By that June 30th deadline, with next Tuesday being that 5th. 00:36:16
5th, 5th Tuesday in June that we normally don't meet, but we could, you know, set up a meeting if we wanted to do that. 00:36:20
So I'd love to take some time to review this a little bit more and. 00:36:29
I see where we can maybe have some consensus on some of the cuts that that I'm proposing in a few of the different budget options. 00:36:35
You know I presented. 00:36:41
Three different ones that I just posted online to the public at. 00:36:43
I'll send you guys a copy after this meeting if you're interested. 00:36:47
But I don't want to. 00:36:51
Have you guys waste your time on it if the rest of the council isn't? 00:36:52
Supportive of at least exploring it. So that would be my invitation. 00:36:55
See if we could at least explore it and take some time to. 00:36:59
To review it and see where we might have consensus. 00:37:02
Council where we at? 00:37:06
I'd be curious to hear exactly what your library plan is. 00:37:07
Having just a. 00:37:11
Awarded anyway, Go ahead. 00:37:13
Sure, I proposed 3 different budgets 1. 00:37:16
Was. 00:37:19
The most drastic? 00:37:20
Cuts that kind of mimicked. 00:37:22
You know, there was a lot of talk about how Vineyard has the highest taxes and all of Utah County. 00:37:24
And we need to. 00:37:28
Make sure that doesn't happen. 00:37:29
So I tried my very best to see what I could try to do to make. 00:37:31
That as low as possible and try to make us at least the most competitive with other cities. 00:37:35
Within our county. 00:37:39
And part of that included a lot of drastic cuts. So so 1 was. 00:37:40
Proposing to to cut the entire library, entire rec programs. 00:37:45
A lot of those services that I love personally. 00:37:50
I think are great benefits of the community. 00:37:53
But if we're. 00:37:55
Going to have a real conversation about what it's going to take to reduce property taxes. 00:37:56
That was just a proposal that I. 00:38:01
Had suggested that would allow us to keep a lot of our other operations. 00:38:03
My favorite proposal of the three. 00:38:07
Is the third one that I that I'd suggested which. 00:38:09
Didn't cut the library, didn't cut Parks and Rec, but it also had. 00:38:13
Much lower property tax. 00:38:16
Or a much. 00:38:18
Smaller property tax decrease so. 00:38:19
The kind of harsh cut version I was looking at. 00:38:21
Was about a 26% cut in property taxes. 00:38:24
The much more mild one that I think is very doable. 00:38:27
But doesn't cut the library or our rec rec programs. 00:38:31
Is only a 16% cut in property taxes, so. 00:38:34
Two options if people are serious about. 00:38:38
Hey, the larger cuts, I mean 16% isn't really going to make us. 00:38:40
You know, the lowest in in the entire county. 00:38:44
Still a long ways to go to be the lowest in the county. I think we'd have to. 00:38:47
Kept by like at least 50%. 00:38:51
So I was trying my best but. 00:38:54
There were just too many services that I didn't want to cut, I thought. 00:38:56
These would substantially affect us in the long term as far as. 00:38:59
Just providing those basic government services to people. But if we want to bare bones government, if we want to kind of 00:39:03
eliminate. 00:39:06
All of the. 00:39:09
Things that. 00:39:10
We love and see as a benefit the community and I would even argue have. 00:39:11
An outsized impact on. 00:39:15
You know our community. 00:39:17
Fabric and just. 00:39:19
Helping our citizens. 00:39:20
Be invested in our community. 00:39:22
But that are harder to kind of tie a direct ROI to. 00:39:25
And her stuff that you know. 00:39:29
Doesn't necessarily need to be provided by the government. The government doesn't have to. 00:39:31
Be the and I'll be all solution of all problems. We could not provide these things and look to either the private sector or 00:39:34
nonprofit groups to to. 00:39:38
To stand it up. 00:39:43
With donations or with other? 00:39:45
And, you know, business communities. So if you're not particularly serious about. 00:39:47
Eliminating the library. 00:39:50
Now I would prefer option 3, but option 1 was. 00:39:52
The the 26% cut was more to align with. 00:39:56
You guys have made it clear that I'm just an appointed. 00:40:00
Council member and that the voters chose you guys so I thought hey. 00:40:02
Why don't we look to some of the promises that that you guys made to voters and. 00:40:05
See if I can mimic that to try to. 00:40:09
Kind of establish. 00:40:11
Some credibility here as a council member instead of I wouldn't have wanted tax a little lower. I wish county taxes were lower. Be 00:40:12
nice if you'd apply the same principles to county tax. I'm pretty comfortable with the budget. I know Parker and the mayor and 00:40:18
staff have worked really hard on this. I appreciate that. Well, how much money are you saving from previous year? 00:40:24
Do you know how much money you were? 00:40:29
It's at 1.2 million. 00:40:31
From the previous year. 00:40:33
I should have that ready. 00:40:37
Don't right in front of me negative how many dollars savings of previous year? 00:40:40
To compare that. 00:40:45
I can give my while you're looking for that, I can give you my comments so I can give you a by department though. 00:40:49
Number. Yeah, for five of them. 00:40:54
For the top five. 00:40:56
So there's cuts of planning of 285,604. 00:40:58
Parks has cut 160,742. 00:41:03
Public Works has cut 120,117. 00:41:07
City Manager Budget is cut 89,717. 00:41:12
And the building department cut 48,814. 00:41:17
I would love. 00:41:24
My comment. 00:41:27
Please go ahead. 00:41:28
I have served. 00:41:32
In government. 00:41:33
For. 00:41:34
20 years. 00:41:35
Being the largest auction service in the country. 00:41:37
And getting rid of. 00:41:41
And selling when governments. 00:41:44
Cut and figure out when they don't hit the budget so. 00:41:46
Seeing the finances. 00:41:49
Vineyard. 00:41:51
Our rainy day funds were depleted. 00:41:53
Extremely depleted. 00:41:56
By a recommendation, we're supposed to have certain funds, six months of reserves, 3 months. Some of our reserves in certain 00:41:58
accounts were. 00:42:02
Six weeks. 4 weeks. 00:42:06
This budget. 00:42:09
Will replenish all of those. 00:42:10
Rainy day funds and I'm excited to see a budget by budget where those are. 00:42:12
#2. 00:42:18
Which is incredible that the mayor is not sharing. 00:42:20
It needs to be the highlight, which is. 00:42:23
The previous council proposed. 00:42:26
Doing a bond for 40 million to fix our City Hall problems. 00:42:27
Public Works has proposed in addition to the. 00:42:32
Public works. 00:42:37
Building. 00:42:38
To do an addition and we're paying for that in cash. 00:42:39
Without bonding. 00:42:43
And we're holding the line on the budget. 00:42:44
Which is incredible. So we are not going to the residence to ask for 40 million to fix our. 00:42:47
Problem. 00:42:53
By doing that. 00:42:55
This gives us another year to get the rainy day funds now by holding the line. 00:42:56
If you follow the. 00:43:01
What the city has done year over year. 00:43:03
We increase between 701.2 million in revenue just because of growth, sales tax, property tax. 00:43:06
Whatever it may be, we go up by about $1,000,000 annually. 00:43:14
So by just holding the line. 00:43:18
With the current budget of what our spending is are close to. 00:43:20
But yet allowing those revenues to increase by that million? 00:43:23
It will allow us to be in a very strong. 00:43:27
Or stronger financial situation so that if we do have another Main Street road break. 00:43:31
If we were to have. 00:43:37
Last year. 00:43:39
Too much snow We might not have had enough in our rainy day, right For some of the things that. 00:43:40
That could have happened. 00:43:45
So yeah, we didn't. We're not cutting the budget. 00:43:47
In this we are maintaining while the spending. Now the other things is we do not know in total sales tax the type of increase we 00:43:50
might see. 00:43:54
A dramatic sales tax increase because of Bella's supermarket, but you don't really know that yet of how much more will that will 00:43:59
increase. So instead of spending that. 00:44:04
Holding the line is pizza too, and Feeny's pizza and and other things and so. 00:44:09
Being able to see that, but also just just the addition of the public works. 00:44:14
Add-on. 00:44:19
And being able to say. 00:44:20
Vineyard does not need a City Hall for 10 to 15 years down the road. 00:44:22
And we're not going to be going to taxpayers to be able to do that and reconfiguring that solution and being so innovative. 00:44:26
And the last thing I just want to say is. 00:44:33
I just want to thank every department head that. 00:44:35
Worked with. 00:44:38
Parker and the mayor. 00:44:40
And DK because. 00:44:42
I know. 00:44:44
You know, we came in the council and we didn't do draconian cuts. We came and said hey. 00:44:45
Were four times the tax rate as Aurum. 00:44:50
We've got to find ways. The vast majority of these came from their suggestions or the mayor looking through. 00:44:53
Saying hey, is there? Is there something we can do here? 00:44:59
I also know with Brian being in. 00:45:02
Just over a month. 00:45:04
He is going to be going through and looking at the amount of cars that we have. 00:45:06
Those policies. 00:45:10
And the last thing that I would just say, and I don't want to. 00:45:12
Me and the mayor disagree on quite a few things. In fact we get heated quite a bit. 00:45:15
But uh. 00:45:19
Just a little bit to see a business owner come in. 00:45:21
In government, we're required to. 00:45:24
Put forth to the voters and say. 00:45:28
This is our budget for the year and put it in paper and show everyone. 00:45:30
But what I've seen the mayor do month over month is have a phone call and look at something and say. 00:45:35
Can I adjust the budget here? We can save here we can do this, we can, we can fine tune. 00:45:42
And so I'm excited that we held the line here. 00:45:46
But in allowing. 00:45:50
Our mayor and our and our leadership. 00:45:52
Every quarter because most businesses will do this quarterly. 00:45:55
Allow us. 00:45:59
OK. In the first quarter, what are some things we do because cell phones can be cleaned up? 00:46:00
Cars can be cleaned up. 00:46:05
There's a few other things that. 00:46:07
I'm just really excited for, so I just want to say thank you to all the staff that put this all together. 00:46:09
Appreciate that. Jake, could I ask you a question and. 00:46:15
Particular since you were here for the last. 00:46:18
Tax increase. 00:46:20
You spoke pretty openly about the. 00:46:23
About not needing a tax increase. 00:46:27
I just wanted to know what your thoughts on that tax increase now is? 00:46:29
We have an opportunity now where? 00:46:34
You know you guys. 00:46:36
We can all adopt this budget. 00:46:37
Which would. 00:46:39
Solidify that tax increase in perpetuity. 00:46:40
Or we could look at potentially removing that. 00:46:43
I know you've offered a lot of suggestions. I took some of those actually and. 00:46:45
In some of my budget proposals. 00:46:49
And as such, I'd be willing to to vote for. 00:46:51
Any of them. 00:46:53
That. 00:46:55
I do have support. I think we're. 00:46:56
I think next year is going to be incredible in terms of tax cuts, but I would never run such a large organization on fumes with 00:46:58
such little money in. 00:47:03
Knowing that we're responsible for some incredible. 00:47:08
Infrastructure and knowing that our funds are so depleted. So it scares me and I see that wisdom. 00:47:12
To voters and saying, hey, we're going to hold the line. 00:47:19
And then? 00:47:22
Seeing that. 00:47:23
$1,000,000 I mean, we're hoping it'll be a 1.2 or whatever. 00:47:25
Dollar increase. 00:47:29
You know when the mayor first proposed it and said. 00:47:30
Hey, there's this innovative idea to we could pay cash point of order. 00:47:33
We need to do the. 00:47:39
To the agenda, sorry, real quick, that's OK, it's just saying I. 00:47:40
We've allowed Ezra's chance to. 00:47:44
Right, campaign, I would just say looking back to the agenda, yeah, I just say I just believe in in paint that that getting that 00:47:46
addition in the public works facility and allowing us to do that. 00:47:51
And then? 00:47:57
The space and what the staff need and to be able to pay that off in cash. 00:47:59
I was like. 00:48:04
I think you do it because. 00:48:05
It's it's not going to be over our head and it's a smart investment and the staff that thought through that was just. 00:48:07
And I love the ideas that this came. 00:48:13
Together as a group to. 00:48:15
Think about how to post them in. 00:48:16
I will say. 00:48:18
I think a target in getting out of the HVA building. 00:48:19
On rental if that's the ability for in the next 6 months would be incredible. So anyway. 00:48:23
Thanks, Jake. 00:48:28
I'm the I'm gonna. 00:48:29
Jump over to David Larae. Do you have some? 00:48:31
Did you have a comment, David? 00:48:33
Love to hear what you're talking. 00:48:35
Sorry. Sorry. I was just wanting to get back to the order business. Sure. 00:48:36
Yeah, I think, I think we're talking about. So Jake, you mentioned the. 00:48:41
The fund balances. 00:48:44
Being replenished. 00:48:46
Which ones of those do you see being replenished I'm looking at? 00:48:49
Kind of each of those individual funds and. 00:48:52
And each of them are using fund balance. So we're not necessarily except for in the general fund contributing. 00:48:54
We do have a small increase in the general fund fund balance, but. 00:49:02
Well, we're still waiting on like a sales tax increases numbers to come in, right? 00:49:06
So we're. 00:49:10
We're still waiting to find out what. 00:49:11
Those I and I called in today to find out. Do we know what type of increase? 00:49:13
In total revenues we're going to be seeing by just holding the line, right? 00:49:18
Yeah. But currently with with the current projections we are. 00:49:22
Projected to. 00:49:25
Spend down each of our. 00:49:26
Each of our fund balances other than. 00:49:28
270,000. 00:49:31
Being added to the general fund Which? 00:49:33
We have a $4.7 million. 00:49:36
Estimated beginning fund balance going into the year. 00:49:40
So. 00:49:43
You know, that's roughly. 00:49:44
5% increase to that. 00:49:46
Do you? 00:49:49
Are you, are you comfortable with these reserves? You feel like these reserves are good because. 00:49:50
I'm actually fine with all the projections that finance has given. 00:49:54
All of my. 00:49:58
Proposed cuts are operational in nature. 00:49:59
So it doesn't. 00:50:01
Get rid of any of our capital expenses. 00:50:02
Doesn't get rid of any of our. 00:50:04
Capital projects. 00:50:06
But it does take away ongoing expenses that we could then. 00:50:08
You know, property taxes are great for ongoing expenses because it's a stable source of revenue in the state. We're guaranteed 00:50:12
those property taxes to help us with those ongoing expenses that we know. 00:50:17
Are going to occur from year to year. 00:50:22
And so I've I've only in all three of my budget proposals. 00:50:24
Touched those ongoing expenses that I feel like we could. 00:50:28
Survive without in some cases and I think in option 3, which is the. 00:50:34
You know the 16%. 00:50:38
Property tax cut? We could actually. 00:50:40
Thrive very well with with that proposed budget. 00:50:42
I know there's a few things that. 00:50:45
You know, we've talked about in the past lobbyists and. 00:50:48
And things that. 00:50:51
We could cut. 00:50:52
I would love to be able to have that conversation. 00:50:53
Because that my option three budget does include those types of cuts. 00:50:56
And. 00:51:00
I do think we would have a lot of consensus if I could. 00:51:02
Have some time to. 00:51:04
Just sit down with each of you guys and. 00:51:05
Review each of those cuts we could. 00:51:07
Kind of horse trade and. 00:51:09
And a little bit of surprise, when did we start this budget process? Was it months or months ago? 00:51:10
Yeah, I don't think it was started in April and I have AI have a number for you. So total reductions across all departments, we've 00:51:16
made $836,766. 00:51:22
And so in cuts. 00:51:29
And if we would have continued if. 00:51:31
The Vineyard City government would have continued as it was in January. 00:51:33
There, you would have no choice right now but to ask for another tax increase. 00:51:38
Yeah, that's and. 00:51:42
And the other thing is is. 00:51:45
Give the mayor some time to cook. 00:51:47
Like, he's done really well. You can't in six months, especially with Brian put into place, look at every single thing. 00:51:49
He's taken apart and looked at. 00:51:56
What are the biggest things? 00:51:58
And I think it's smart just to say, allow him to budget as the status quo. 00:51:59
Say, hey, it's there. If I can't cut it, we'll look through it again. 00:52:04
There's and we can always come back, but telling the voters right now. 00:52:09
This is where we're at. We believe the revenues are going to increase quite a bit. 00:52:13
But then also that's just. 00:52:18
You know, you give your wife a budget or you give your family a budget. That doesn't mean you have to go and spend it. It means 00:52:20
this is kind of where we're at right now. 00:52:23
But let's dig in. And and all of us have given those priorities where? 00:52:27
Hey, we could probably spend. 00:52:32
Less. Well, why don't we translate that into a property tax decrease then? 00:52:34
Because we could. 00:52:38
We've got until. 00:52:39
I mean, we sent the certified rate. 00:52:41
Which? 00:52:44
Also, I don't know why the governing body, we're way too far along that. 00:52:44
To go to and do it to a. 00:52:49
We have to turn taxation. 00:52:50
Truth in Texas, No, we don't need a truth in taxation to decrease. We only need it to increase. Go ahead, Brian. 00:52:53
The deadline for us to accept the certified rate was yesterday. 00:52:58
Yep, which it was accepted. 00:53:02
The county told us that. 00:53:06
If there was. 00:53:09
No action taken. 00:53:10
Then our only option is to go with the certified rate, which did go down from the previous year, but we couldn't go lower than 00:53:13
that. We can. 00:53:16
Lower than the certified rate. 00:53:21
Not unless we took action by yesterday. 00:53:23
We can, I did e-mail the Tax Commission. 00:53:27
And they did say we can lower the rate. 00:53:30
Even after yesterday's action, but. 00:53:33
We can't raise the rate. 00:53:35
So I would, I would love to. 00:53:36
Take that time to. 00:53:38
If you would like I can just read this. 00:53:41
Statute. 00:53:45
It's it's Utah code 59. 00:53:46
Dash 2-912, subsection 1. 00:53:50
Well, and I'm seeing now that there is an exception in here, so we'll probably have to read all of that, but it says accept is 00:53:57
provided in subsection 2. The governing body of each taxing entity shall before June 22nd of each year. 00:54:03
Adopt A proposed tax rate or, if the tax rate is not more than the certified rate, a final tax rate free. 00:54:08
For the taxing entity. 00:54:14
And. 00:54:16
Report the rate and levy and submit the statement. 00:54:17
Required under another section and any other information prescribed by. 00:54:21
Rules of the Commission for the preparation, review and certification of the tax rate to the county auditor of the county in which 00:54:25
the taxing entity is located. And then here's that exception. 00:54:30
Into subsection 2, it says if the governing body of a taxing entity. 00:54:36
Does not receive the taxing entities certified tax rate at least seven days prior. 00:54:40
To the date described in subsection one, which I think is June 22nd. 00:54:46
The governing body of the taxi entity shall no later than 14 days after receiving the certified tax rate from the county auditor. 00:54:51
Adopt A proposed tax rate or if the tax rate is not more than the certified rate. 00:54:59
A final tax rate for the taxing entity and comply with the requirements of. 00:55:04
This the previous subsection. 00:55:08
So I mean, that's that's a little complicated to breakdown. 00:55:11
I'm just going off what the county auditor's office told us. 00:55:15
Which was that? 00:55:20
If you take. 00:55:22
If you're. 00:55:23
Governing body takes no action by June 22nd. Then your only option is to go with the certified tax rate which. 00:55:24
Is. 00:55:31
I will point out it is lower than it was last year, but we can't go lower than that and we certainly couldn't go higher without 00:55:32
going through truth and taxation. So certain. I'm just telling you what. 00:55:38
What that office? 00:55:43
Told us the guidance they gave us. 00:55:45
Thank you. Let me, I think it would be helpful for me to weigh in at this point and kind of just tell you where my head's at with 00:55:47
this whole budget. 00:55:50
The city and the public, if if you haven't learned by now, I'm pretty measured guy. 00:55:54
I just am. That's just my personality. 00:56:01
And sorry, let me scoot forward. Didn't we scoop forward? Is that better, John? OK, I'm I'm pretty measured and. 00:56:03
I think that. 00:56:10
This budget. 00:56:13
This budget proposal, it does a couple of key things. It brings down a lot of department spending and. 00:56:14
And I'm happy to. 00:56:21
To explore if. 00:56:23
If council would like to make deeper cuts, it's. 00:56:24
It's your prerogative. 00:56:27
Absolutely. And I I support you in that, but at the same time. 00:56:31
I think that when. 00:56:35
In order to any organization. 00:56:39
To get it to the final destination, I've always felt it's better to make incremental steps. 00:56:42
Bit by bit. 00:56:48
Than big. 00:56:49
Massive. 00:56:51
Cuts. 00:56:52
And I think that the citizenry. 00:56:54
There's just a lot that goes into it. 00:56:59
And again, I'm happy to scrub it and. 00:57:01
Go deeper. 00:57:04
Whatever you'd like, but I think that this budget really represents a ton of effort by staff. 00:57:07
I mean. 00:57:12
Every most every department has come down, you know, police and fire. How many? 00:57:12
So we're adding firefighters, we're adding budget to the police. 00:57:18
Dad's office gone up, a couple other ones that are essential services have gone up. 00:57:22
And I think that. 00:57:26
The other thing that's important to recognize, too, is our city's growing. 00:57:28
And as you run an organization, one of the. 00:57:32
Key points I like to always say is are we scaling efficiently? 00:57:35
And. 00:57:39
And how I view that is OK, so we're at 20,000. 00:57:40
Let's just call it 20,000 residents in the city right now. 00:57:44
The next thousand that come in, are we going to charge? 00:57:47
More for them or is it going to charge less or that is going to stay the same this budget in my opinion? 00:57:50
Really shows that. 00:57:56
And. 00:57:58
The end destination definitely is. 00:58:00
Really good property tax cuts. 00:58:03
And I'm happy if we if if Council feels that we want to. 00:58:06
Really, just hammer that. 00:58:09
This year. 00:58:11
I'm happy to do whatever. 00:58:12
Council would like to do on that. 00:58:14
But I. 00:58:16
I think that just a more measured. 00:58:17
Approach. 00:58:19
It's just always better. 00:58:21
In this and I think that. 00:58:22
Getting our new city manager time to really dig into it, Evan. 00:58:25
Get him another. 00:58:29
Year under the belt. And that's not to say that we can't. 00:58:30
As the year goes along, come back and pass amendments as they go and we find savings. That's not the case. We've just got to 00:58:32
recognize the kind of the reality of the situation where the city was going. 00:58:38
And where we're. 00:58:43
Charting the new course and it's just going to take a minute to bake. 00:58:44
But if we want to turn up the heat. 00:58:49
And make it bake faster. 00:58:51
I'm I'm open. 00:58:53
Open to that. 00:58:54
That's great. Could I clarify a couple things? 00:58:55
I did. I did. Well, we did start the budget process a while ago. 00:58:59
As you guys know, you're working on those documents. 00:59:02
I did get these documents this weekend, so I apologize for. 00:59:04
For putting this together. 00:59:08
In an actual. 00:59:10
Actionable form. 00:59:12
Relatively quickly. 00:59:13
I do think we still. 00:59:15
Do you have time? I don't think we should. 00:59:16
You know, give up on trying to. 00:59:20
Reduce the actual property task is especially because. 00:59:24
And my perspective is probably a little different than. 00:59:27
Than you guys as well because. 00:59:29
I know I only got. 00:59:31
Two years left of this term. So this is this is literally the only budget. 00:59:32
Where I will pass it and also be here for the full year of implementation. 00:59:36
Parker is in the same boat as me on that. 00:59:40
At least guaranteed. I mean, we'll see what the future holds. 00:59:42
And because of that, I would love to be able to. 00:59:46
Know that I. 00:59:48
Can take full ownership of this budget, not only in the passage of it, but throughout. 00:59:50
The entire process. 00:59:53
And so if they're. 00:59:55
You know our changes that need to be made throughout the year. 00:59:57
We can talk about that, but. 00:59:59
It would be amazing to. 01:00:01
Say you know what? 01:00:03
I'm not just gonna pass a budget with reduced property taxes and say OK, in six months, some other council is gonna have to deal 01:00:04
with it halfway through the year when we're out of money. 01:00:08
This is really. 01:00:11
A a budget that I can. 01:00:13
Feel comfortable about taking that full ownership of. 01:00:15
And. 01:00:18
Kind of fully embrace and say. 01:00:19
Yes, I'm confident that. 01:00:21
This will work. 01:00:23
I know exactly how it's going to work. 01:00:24
I know that. 01:00:26
This isn't going to. 01:00:27
Substantially reduce services, at least in option 3. 01:00:28
And that we can make that work. So I would love to. 01:00:33
To try this year given that I do. 01:00:36
Appreciate, you know, the measured approach and when you have a couple more years on the council, you've got that liberty. So 01:00:39
yeah. 01:00:42
So I just wanted to say I really appreciate the efforts gone into. 01:00:45
Preparing this budget and all the efforts. 01:00:49
I mean, hundreds of hours have gone into it just with staff, but also elected officials. And it's really. 01:00:52
Speaks to to addressing the many objectives we had when we came in. 01:00:57
So I'm going to say that and I appreciate that the. 01:01:01
Reduction is a great. 01:01:03
I'm however there was 1 project I think that we do need. 01:01:05
To look at possibly adding back in, there's a small one. 01:01:09
There was a promise made to the original. 01:01:12
Residents of Vineyard long ago that they would be able to. 01:01:15
Remain on a. 01:01:19
Country Rd. Kind of a setting over on Holloway Rd. 01:01:20
Through the course of the next took. 01:01:24
Two decades that their Rd. got turned into a. 01:01:25
An arterial not not very fault of theirs because the city failed to address. 01:01:28
Transportation needs to go around it. 01:01:33
And. 01:01:35
Complicated the only other arterial that was available so. 01:01:36
They were promised that once the connection was made from 400 S or to Main Street so that we have a complete. 01:01:40
Circuit available to them that. 01:01:46
Holdaway Rd. the only neighborhood by the way this not protected as an enclave. 01:01:48
Or that doesn't it also only that has a through St. that allows people to go straight through without any other obstruction. 01:01:52
The only St. that was kept without, you know, without. 01:02:01
Sidewalks because that was that was the intent. It was supposed to be a country Rd. We still have rural mailboxes we don't have. 01:02:03
So it's because of that we want to keep the promise to them and then. 01:02:09
And the idea was that we would help convert Wholeway Rd. into a. 01:02:13
Bicycle Blvd. which would allow it to be an extension of the sports park that's nearby, allow for The Walking and running and 01:02:17
bicycling that we see there all the time anyway. 01:02:22
And make it a lot safer for the people who are there. 01:02:27
And also reduce traffic to the normal amount you'd expect in a neighborhood. 01:02:30
As opposed to this thoroughfare. 01:02:35
That links. 01:02:37
That the north and the South ends of our city. 01:02:38
So now the connection is made-up for the South. I would like to see that we add back in that $25,000. 01:02:40
It's a very small amount. 01:02:46
The 1%? 01:02:47
You know, the capital budget, whatever. 01:02:48
And just add a backup so we can do a study there to be able to make that happen. 01:02:51
We think it can be done with the. 01:02:56
You know, very inexpensively and we'll certainly try not to use that budget and turn back in the rest. 01:02:58
But I think that's something we need to do this year. 01:03:02
Until that promise to our our original residence. 01:03:05
Council, how do we feel about that? 01:03:08
I support it, Yeah, yeah. 01:03:10
I have a question in the seam. 01:03:11
Do you know how far $800,000 would go? 01:03:16
Towards that road. 01:03:18
Towards which Rd. 01:03:22
Towards a plan for not not a plan, but like actual implementation of a plan. 01:03:22
If you had to just take a rough estimate of maybe. 01:03:27
Just like adding sidewalks to hold the way Rd. for example, $800,000 yeah. 01:03:30
We're not talking about that. We're talking about simply. 01:03:34
Drawing, you know, it's just a question. OK, that's fine, but that's not what this plan entails. Just so we not talk about the 01:03:36
plan. 01:03:39
The plan is simply to create. 01:03:42
On the existing footprint. 01:03:44
A walking biking trail as well as traffic planes. 01:03:47
So let me see just. 01:03:50
Roth guess it's. 01:03:53
I mean, we wouldn't be redoing utilities on that. So that would be philosophical sidewalks. 01:03:56
I think 800,000 you get the. 01:04:01
I mean, you would look at doing you could. 01:04:05
Potentially do a full complete St. A complete street is a road with. 01:04:08
Like a vehicle. 01:04:14
Bike facilities and trail access typically. 01:04:16
On that, as long as the alignment doesn't change. 01:04:19
And short. 01:04:22
I have a. 01:04:24
Love to pitch? 01:04:27
So my my third option budget the one with the. 01:04:29
A smallest amount of cuts that. 01:04:32
Doesn't get rid of the library or. 01:04:33
The entire special defense team. 01:04:35
Team. 01:04:37
Reduces property taxes by 876,000. 01:04:39
I would even be supportive of putting a portion of that towards not only just a plan, but also. 01:04:44
Let's start a fun for implementation. 01:04:49
And if we could. 01:04:52
Take some time to look at that, see if you agree with some of the cuts I propose. 01:04:53
We could even. 01:04:57
See if we could get some of those things done because. 01:04:59
Well, this one year we might not be able to raise. 01:05:01
Or lower property taxes, but if we use it on a capital project? 01:05:04
Then we won't have additional ongoing expenses that we could then lower the property tax. The citizens on this street followed the 01:05:07
the traffic. 01:05:10
Calming procedure city put in place. 01:05:14
They got a petition where over 85% of the people there that signed an affirmative that they wanted to make this change and that 01:05:17
they did not. And they stated they did not want a change to the sidewalk to the profile at all. They don't want that. They simply 01:05:24
want their country Rd. back. They were promised initially and they also and they're willing to do it by by modernizing enough to 01:05:30
be able to make sure that we mark a lane for, for active transportation to take place. 01:05:37
That's that was the important part of this, that we simply draw. 01:05:44
Or paint new lines on a road. We're talking. 01:05:47
You know, frankly, if we went out and just measured it ourselves, it would cost us, what, a couple grand for paint? 01:05:50
Right. Yeah. 01:05:54
I'm gonna. 01:05:56
You don't need to. I don't think we need to do a survey or anything else. I know. I'm sorry, city staff. 01:05:57
I don't think we need a survey because because the road is already there, the curb lines are already there. 01:06:03
The the borders are what they are. 01:06:07
OK, let's just do it. 01:06:10
Yep, all right. 01:06:11
Jacob Wood, do you have any comments you'd like to make on on the 8.2? 01:06:12
I'm comfort, I'm comfortable moving forward with this. I appreciate staff working hard on it. I'm OK if. 01:06:17
Adding David Lara's. 01:06:22
Project and. 01:06:24
Yeah. Good work guys. Thank you. 01:06:25
OK, I'm I make a motion to approve. 01:06:27
Approve the final 2020 six 2027 budget with the amendment. 01:06:31
That Councilman Laray of the $25,000 for the. 01:06:37
Holdaway Rd. 01:06:41
Bike Blvd. 01:06:42
As the budget has been presented by staff. 01:06:44
OK, do I have a second? Second. 01:06:47
OK. We will do this by roll call. We'll start with Jake I, Jacob Wood. 01:06:49
Hi, David, Larae, hi. 01:06:54
And Ezra? 01:06:56
No. OK. Thank you. 01:06:57
All right, passes. OK, we're going to jump now to 8.3. 01:06:59
Approve the fee waiver for the Latino special event. 01:07:04
9 uh. 01:07:07
1926 Brian, are you still here? 01:07:08
Yeah, do you? 01:07:12
You want to come up and explain that real quick? 01:07:13
We're gonna know. 01:07:15
I want to know if Uruguay is going to be represented in this Latino party. 01:07:16
It's a good question. 01:07:20
OK. 01:07:23
OK. 01:07:27
Just to give a brief recap on this. 01:07:29
There is. 01:07:33
An applicant has requested that. 01:07:35
We allow for a Latino festival. 01:07:38
At Vineyard Grove Park on Saturday, September 19th. 01:07:42
This group did the same event three years ago. 01:07:46
And they had about 2500. 01:07:49
Attendees, It was a very popular event. 01:07:52
And so they'd like to come back and and do it again. 01:07:56
It would run from approximately 12:30 until 9:00 PM. 01:08:01
So they would have a number of. 01:08:06
Dance performances. They'll have food, they'll have music. 01:08:10
About 20 vendors, 5 food trucks. 01:08:14
They'll have a stage. 01:08:17
They'll have 4. 01:08:20
Portable toilets. 01:08:22
And they'd like to use the. 01:08:26
Grove Park Field. 01:08:29
And with this event. 01:08:32
Because it is free to the public, they requested for a fee waiver. 01:08:34
So we did an analysis on what that cost would be and just to break that down. 01:08:40
For you really quick. 01:08:45
Small pavilion, $40. 01:08:48
Large Pavilion 75. 01:08:50
Special event. 01:08:52
Permit it would be $100. 01:08:54
And then the field rental is the biggest cost. That one comes at just over 2500. 01:08:56
Just because we charge $60.00 an hour per field. 01:09:04
And we have 3 fields at Grove Park and that would be. 01:09:08
From 8:00 AM. 01:09:10
10:00 PM from. 01:09:12
Set up all the way until to clean up so. 01:09:13
And then a $300 deposit. So in total it would be waiving 3035 dollars. 01:09:16
So just wanted to. 01:09:23
Pitch that to you as. 01:09:25
Mayor and City Council and was there anything else you wanted to add to that? 01:09:27
Maybe I can't share a little bit about. Yeah, sure. Please come on up. 01:09:31
So my name is Denisa Valdivieso. I have lived in this community maybe like 5 years, maybe 6. 01:09:34
And I do the event with my sister. She also is being your city resident we've been involved in. 01:09:41
Bringing cultural experiences to the state of Utah for maybe 15 years. 01:09:47
Rehab partnered up with Thanksgiving Point. 01:09:51
We do their Day of the Dead event at the Shasta River Woods for 10 years now. 01:09:54
And just being residents of the city, you know, we feel like. 01:09:59
I don't know, almost kind of like. 01:10:02
We have the passion behind it obviously, and we understand in part importance of. 01:10:04
Inclusion and bringing the community together and while we're sharing our culture with the community, you know, just creating that 01:10:08
sense of. 01:10:11
You know, there's so many, there's such a. 01:10:14
Big diversity in the state of Utah and. 01:10:16
And for us, it's just an opportunity for us to just. 01:10:19
You know, not just share one specific culture, but there's so many countries that are represented even within the. 01:10:22
The city of Bend, Your city. 01:10:28
And so three years ago when we did it, we felt it was like a great success. 01:10:29
There were so many people that came out and not only did they get to see, you know, that performances, they got to try the food. 01:10:33
But but fully like, you know, like live that experience. And at the end of the day, that's that's what we want to bring again this 01:10:40
year. We just want to bring the experience for the city of India. 01:10:44
And. 01:10:49
Yeah. You know, we, we just, if there was a possibility where we could. 01:10:50
Get that fee waived. That was kind of like the thing that hold us back the last two years. 01:10:54
Because we honestly, when we put these events. 01:10:58
We really. 01:11:01
Don't make any money out of them. It's something that we're very passionate about. 01:11:02
With my sisters and. 01:11:06
Just any support that we could get to bring this forward would be great. 01:11:08
Yeah, awesome. How many people would you expect to attend? 01:11:12
Well, we're hoping maybe around the same amount. 01:11:16
3000 we were counting about 3000 based on the AI. 01:11:19
Like phone count? 01:11:24
Yeah, about 2500 came last time. 01:11:26
Well, we were told 3000, but maybe 25133 thousand. OK, yeah, that's awesome. So around there. So if we if this year we could get 01:11:28
about. 01:11:33
5000 people or 4. 01:11:37
Four additional porta potties, enough to handle that. 01:11:39
I mean, we are going to be applying for a. 01:11:42
Mass. 01:11:46
Gathering permit and. 01:11:49
We are going to be responsible for paying for that poor bodies, Washington stations and the deputies. 01:11:50
For the day. 01:11:56
Will there be anything sold here at all? 01:11:58
Yeah. So we are going to be having like. 01:12:01
Foot experiences like from all countries. 01:12:05
Last year like. 01:12:08
Last time we had it, I think we had food from over. 01:12:09
10 different countries. 01:12:12
And we are also going to allow spaces for vendors. So even if any like. 01:12:13
Businesses here in in Vineyard City wanted to come out and set up and interact with the community. We will have that too. So if 01:12:18
you get a fee or any income from any of those, we do. 01:12:23
And so there is. 01:12:28
Specific fees to every single one of the vendors and I can share that with you like for. 01:12:30
Just regular vendors that have like businesses that. 01:12:35
Maybe services or they sell something. 01:12:38
It's about $100. 01:12:40
Per vendor and for food vendors is about 2:50 to $300. 01:12:42
So roughly how much would you expect to get in those fees? 01:12:47
I can tell you what we did last time. I think we gather about like. 01:12:50
6 grand. 01:12:58
Between all of those things and we had a sponsor too. 01:12:59
And with that we, we do cover production, we cover obviously insurance, whatever else fees that we have to cover. 01:13:02
We also try to compensate some of the groups that come from like. 01:13:09
Salt Lake County or other places. 01:13:13
Go ahead. Any questions for Brian or? 01:13:16
What we want to then consider the possibility of weight of partial wavering of fees or just just all waiver. 01:13:19
My question is, is could? 01:13:27
Our social media. 01:13:29
Support you early to see if there's other Latinos in within. 01:13:31
Vineyard that would like to participate and. 01:13:36
Yeah. I mean, we're open to any collaboration. You didn't do that last year though, right? Or haven't worked. We had. We didn't do 01:13:39
it last two years because it's just kind of your thing. Yeah, we didn't do the last two years. We've been your city. I mean, we do 01:13:43
other things. 01:13:47
With other like. 01:13:52
There they're dead with the shelves of river woods and different things, but. 01:13:54
Not anything within your city. I think doing a waiver would be. 01:13:57
Fantastic if you're open to. 01:14:01
Working with David Kyle and our social media team to saying. 01:14:03
Come get involved in your if you guys want to play, get in contact with you, learn about it. 01:14:07
Because then it's more of a city effort to support the different minority groups, and I think that was our initial intention the 01:14:12
first year. 01:14:15
And in fact, we call that Vindir Latin Day. 01:14:19
Days and then they had us take out the Finger City because they didn't want to think that it was like. 01:14:22
Run by the city. 01:14:28
I don't know, but that's the kind of thing that we want to support though is all different cultures, I mean. 01:14:29
My family's a split Latino. I just got back from Uruguay today. That's awesome. I didn't shave, so I've been down there for. 01:14:34
And yeah, no, but we would love that. I mean, right, Just so you know, it goes both ways too. We run a community called Utah 01:14:41
Latina and Mama Connect. And we were here at the Vineyard days and we love them. And, and I even told Teresa, I think I talked to 01:14:47
Kyle too, and we told them if you guys ever need anything promoting anything with the city. 01:14:54
Like you can just tag us and we'll repost in any of our platforms. 01:15:00
Yeah, that was my first request was I have. I would love to do a. 01:15:04
Full waiver form if we can just push it within our social media to say hey this is. 01:15:07
A city thing and then #2. 01:15:13
To have our sheriff's there. 01:15:14
The Latino community needs to. 01:15:16
Have strength with. 01:15:18
Law enforcement building relationships with them, trust within them. 01:15:20
And I would love to hear if you'd be willing to do it a table or. 01:15:24
Or build relationships. You do that with Vineyard days, you know, I think. 01:15:27
Not probably not as big a thing, but something small of. 01:15:30
You know, yeah, I believe last year, last time you guys did it, we were involved. So anything, any event of this size, we 01:15:34
generally I. 01:15:38
Look at it and see what the plan is and say OK, we're going to. 01:15:41
X amount of deputies to cover security and help with parking and those types of things so we'll. 01:15:44
We would have a presence there. Cool. 01:15:48
Yeah, No, we would love to have you guys. 01:15:50
Come back again. Thank you. Maybe just one other thing I'll add to is they've been great to work with the city. 01:15:52
Up to this point, umm, uh. 01:15:59
They actually are planning to help with the Buapalooza event. 01:16:01
They'll have a. 01:16:05
A portion with that and then our city manager has mentioned that. 01:16:07
They've just been a very reputable. 01:16:11
Group to work with. 01:16:13
Awesome. If that helps in any regard, I. 01:16:16
Staff does recommend. 01:16:18
The waiver, but of course up to OK. 01:16:20
You guys, I would just say thank you for I mean $6000 is not a lot of money to put on this effort and it's a lot of love and. 01:16:23
Just similar to the library or the heritage days. Thanks for. 01:16:29
Organizing and putting so much love into. 01:16:32
Thank you. 01:16:35
I appreciate that. 01:16:35
That's cool. OK, awesome. Thank you. 01:16:37
All right, Council, I will. 01:16:39
Let's vote on this. 01:16:41
Entertain a motion. 01:16:44
On 8.3. 01:16:45
Do we have a copy of the? 01:16:47
The form. 01:16:48
It was there a form that they filled out? 01:16:50
We did fill out a form and you guys should have it. Yeah, yeah. 01:16:52
It's not the packet. 01:16:59
It's not in the packet. 01:17:00
I can make a motion. 01:17:04
I'm go ahead, I move to approve. 01:17:06
The fee waiver for the Latino Festival. 01:17:10
8.3. 01:17:13
With the. 01:17:15
Can I put a caveat that? 01:17:16
I don't think it's a bad thing to include Vineyard City's name in it. 01:17:18
And support it in a way like we just created the nonprofit. 01:17:21
Of being able to. 01:17:26
When citizens come to do that. So I would love to have David Kyle work with sure to say if they would love to, because that's a 01:17:29
draw. It's a draw brings people in like OK, do we have a second on the motion to approve? 01:17:35
I'll second that. 01:17:42
All in favor. 01:17:43
Aye, aye. 01:17:44
Aye, any opposed? 01:17:46
OK, sorry. I just want a second if I yeah, no. 01:17:49
If I can, but yeah. 01:17:52
I think he's got it right here. I just want to. 01:17:53
Yeah. 01:17:58
Had passed. That's OK. 01:17:59
So Jake, Jake and I'll support. Yes. OK, awesome. Thank you. Thank you so much. 8.3 passes. 01:18:08
Yeah, I can share it. 01:18:15
Thank you so much. 01:18:16
Already, guys, should we do it? Let's do a 5 minute, do a 5 minute break, do the RDA or do you want us to jump into the RDA? 01:18:18
Just jumping? Should we jump in? 01:18:24
OK, no one needs to run and grab a Mountain Dew. 01:18:26
I got 3 dudes in me already, 3 mountain dews deep. 01:18:32
OK, 30 hours drive or flying, I'm tired. 01:18:36
All right, we're going to open up the RDA meeting. It is June 23rd, 2026. 01:18:41
What time is it 7711? 01:18:46
Look at that. 01:18:48
1st order of business, we have a public hearing for the final fiscal year. 01:18:51
Budget 20262027. 01:18:54
So I'm going to open it up up a public hearing for the RDA fiscal year 20262027 budget. 01:18:57
If you wish to speak on that. 01:19:03
Come on up. 01:19:05
Love to hear from you. 01:19:06
OK, see no comments. We are going to. 01:19:12
And close the public. 01:19:16
Hearing for the RDA budget. 01:19:18
We ought to keep one consent Item 3.1 Approve of the June 9th, 2026 RDA meeting minutes. 01:19:21
Can I get a motion? 01:19:29
On that consent item. 01:19:31
Move. Yeah, go ahead. So move. So moved. Yeah, second. 01:19:32
OK. Second, all right, all in favor. 01:19:35
Aye, OK. 01:19:37
Number 3.1 passes. All right, let's jump into the business items 4.1 approve resolution RDA 2026-3. 01:19:40
For the RDA budget for this upcoming fiscal year. 01:19:48
Council, would you like to have? 01:19:52
Any questions or debate? 01:19:54
On uh. 01:19:56
This business item 4.1 I would love to debate. I have some. 01:19:57
Cuts in here as well, but. 01:20:01
I'd like to see what's on. 01:20:03
Which items are on the budget for development and so forth, and what our obligations will be? 01:20:05
OK, not sure. 01:20:10
Sounds great. 01:20:11
We have Josh here to Josh is here. 01:20:13
Want to kind of walk us through that? Does everyone have a copy of that? 01:20:16
No, I don't know if Evan has. 01:20:20
Anything. 01:20:24
Numbers wise or schedule if he wants to show. 01:20:25
But yeah, you saw the capital projects that was. 01:20:28
Presented earlier. 01:20:32
That's kind of the main. 01:20:35
The main part where there's variation otherwise. 01:20:37
The biggest things here is just our bond payments every year. 01:20:40
And then our tax increment finance reimbursements? 01:20:45
I mean the revenues here, one thing to think about on the revenues. 01:20:51
So this projection for revenue? 01:20:54
Assumes triggering event for this year. 01:20:58
So we do have a number of parcels that are ripe for triggering this year. 01:21:01
And it's important to trigger them because it'll net against new growth. 01:21:06
You want to be cautious about taking new growth if it's in the RDA zone because that eventual. 01:21:10
New growth will be taken out. 01:21:15
Yeah, of the base. 01:21:17
When it's triggered in the future, so as there's a lot of new growth happening right now in the downtown, you want to make sure 01:21:19
you're triggering other areas that are. 01:21:24
Ready to trigger now and that will net against that new growth because the downtown. 01:21:28
Is developing now, but won't be triggered now. It'll be triggered in a couple of years. 01:21:32
So that new growth that's happening right now could be potentially credited to the cities. 01:21:37
Taxable base now. 01:21:42
To just be deducted later, which creates that tax. Are those the parcels that you mentioned earlier last time you're here? Yes. 01:21:45
Yep, yeah, and and I went through the entire. 01:21:51
List of. 01:21:55
All parcels in the city and I've got. 01:21:56
You know some data I could share about. 01:21:58
Basically, how much? 01:22:01
Acreage is in the RDA zone versus not kind of what the values are. 01:22:03
And kind of the property value per acre of different areas. It's pretty fascinating to look at it and look at the trends. 01:22:08
But the big take away is that. 01:22:15
The parcels that are already developed, where there are improvements right now that are being assessed. 01:22:18
This tax year. 01:22:24
You want to trigger those parcels now. 01:22:26
And then? 01:22:29
We would not trigger. 01:22:31
The parcels that are not fully developed, so like a vacant lot that's been subdivided but no improvement, I wouldn't recommend 01:22:33
triggering that. Now you can trigger that next year once an improvements been. 01:22:38
Been built. 01:22:43
So do these numbers here in the in the budget that was presented a little bit ago. 01:22:44
For the Redevelopment Agency. 01:22:47
Do those include your recommended parcels for triggering? Yeah. So this revenue amount would include the recommendation to trigger 01:22:49
though that? 01:22:54
Collection of parcels that we talked about previously and so this income is based upon that. 01:22:58
Yep, yeah. So if you don't trigger. 01:23:03
Then, then it'll be somewhere between what we actually received this year and that amount. It'll, it'll be slightly more than what 01:23:05
we received this year, but it won't be the 15,000,000. It'll be more like the 13 million. 01:23:10
OK, great. 01:23:19
All right, so. 01:23:21
And the admin fee, we characterize that as a revenue, but that's. 01:23:23
Part of the property tax increment. You can add those together to get the total increment. 01:23:27
The way we've characterized it here. 01:23:31
Because it's kind of a pass through where we have this allocation of 4 1/2% for admin. 01:23:34
That just goes. 01:23:38
You know, into the general fund essentially to pay for overhead and administrative costs of the RDA. 01:23:40
To the city. 01:23:46
So that's the revenue side. 01:23:50
On the expense side? 01:23:52
Again, tax increment finances is the is a big one that's our. 01:23:54
You know, 5 to 6 contracted payments that we make. 01:23:58
To the developers for reimbursement of infrastructure. 01:24:02
We've been through those in the work session where we went through each of the contracts. 01:24:06
Those are the annual ones that are in repayment right now for reimbursement. 01:24:10
In capital expense, keep in mind in that 18,000,000, that's what Evan went through earlier when we looked at the capital projects. 01:24:14
List for RDA. 01:24:21
A lot of that money that's in. 01:24:23
Capital expense. 01:24:25
Is also related to additional other grants, so it's not. 01:24:27
Tax increment revenues. 01:24:31
But sometimes there's like the rail removal. 01:24:33
That's a state and federal funding source. There's the park, that's TRCC revenue. So I'm just. 01:24:36
Sort of keep in mind that in the capital expense bucket there are segregated. 01:24:43
Projects and monies that aren't from tax increment revenue. 01:24:48
And then we've got our bond payments, both the. 01:24:51
Principal and interest is the other. 01:24:53
Big piece. And then there's that. 01:24:56
The transfer of the general fund is that for that admin fee. 01:24:57
That you mentioned rail removal, is that going into some sort of enterprise fund or something? Nothing is being done there to 01:25:00
remove tracks up there. 01:25:04
Yeah. So it's going into the RDA. 01:25:08
Fund. That's where it gets accounted. 01:25:10
But it's not, it's not saved year on year to do something with this. It's actually spent each year. 01:25:13
A portion of it is spent each year for the engineering and consulting work, but it's all all that money this is spent is dedicated 01:25:19
towards the removal of that track. So, so, so. 01:25:24
Planning or something right goes with it. 01:25:29
Yep, exactly OK. 01:25:31
Thank you for the clarification. 01:25:33
Great, that's the. 01:25:35
That's the fun. 01:25:38
Portion of the budget and that. 01:25:39
That so that schedule is what you're adopting. 01:25:40
And again, if the revenue changes, I mean this can be amended. 01:25:44
Always keep in mind of budgets of planning document. It's a forecast. 01:25:49
Each year we have to amend as we get the actual numbers. 01:25:53
So. 01:25:57
A big portion of the flex, so for example, depending on what the revenues would be, if it's in the 13 range or the 15 range. 01:26:00
The difference that that's going to make is how much. 01:26:06
Can be spent on capital projects, that's really where. 01:26:09
The flex will come. 01:26:13
Environmental remediation payments are currently within the capital expense. 01:26:14
So you know if revenues are? 01:26:19
Less than. 01:26:22
What we anticipate. 01:26:23
It's just going to mean less for certain capital projects and probably the one. 01:26:24
That has the most. 01:26:30
Flex back and forth is is ongoing environmental remediation and there's a few other projects and capital expense that. 01:26:30
Year over year. 01:26:38
You know. 01:26:40
The project didn't happen in year 1 and so the money is saved, rolled over. 01:26:41
Maybe it happens in year 2? 01:26:45
So you can kind of keep in mind some of those things as well. 01:26:47
Oh yeah. Thanks Evan for showing those. 01:26:50
That's the capital projects for the RDA fund. 01:26:52
OK, Yep, that's it. 01:26:58
I. 01:27:00
I feel good about it. 01:27:03
OK, comments. Comments from council for Evan staff. 01:27:04
I just want real quick. So roughly how much do we expect to be, I mean. 01:27:09
Point the number again. That shows me how much we expect to be paying or repaying contractors or working out there. 01:27:13
That are working under. 01:27:19
Contract with. 01:27:20
This is for environmental remediation. 01:27:22
Yeah, let's start with that. Yes. 01:27:24
So right now on the capital project. 01:27:26
Plan. Perform environmental remediation. 01:27:29
Just. 01:27:31
6,000,000 like an estimate. 01:27:32
It's budgeted 6,000,000. 01:27:34
Now it could be more, it could be less. 01:27:37
But that's that's the number that's it's just sort of a bucket, if you will, of. 01:27:41
You know, in, in the past, as we've talked to Anderson, Geneva, they're like, look, we could do. 01:27:45
We could clean up the whole site, make it totally ready for buildings. 01:27:50
You know in. 01:27:54
I don't know some some really accelerated timeline. 01:27:55
Right, five years. 01:27:57
But it would cost like $20 million a year of environmental remediation to get it ready that fast. So obviously we can't afford 01:27:59
that in terms of increment revenue. We don't have 5 million, you know. 01:28:04
5 door, we don't have $20 million a year, 60 million / 5 years as opposed to 6,000,000 across 10 years exactly. Yeah, they 01:28:10
estimate it's it's just probably in the. 01:28:15
Neighborhood of 100 million. 01:28:20
To get the. 01:28:22
East Side. 01:28:24
Ready for redevelopment and you know. 01:28:25
Streets like basically to go from what the east side looks like now. 01:28:28
To. 01:28:32
Subdivided lots, streets, all of that. 01:28:33
Ready to go? 01:28:35
Probably 100 million. 01:28:36
And. 01:28:38
Probably likely to take place over the course about the next 15 years. 01:28:39
I mean, right now we're on a trajectory of. 01:28:46
Between 3 and 5 million a year that we've spent on environmental remediation, that's probably going to continue to be the clip, 01:28:48
although they do have the ability to. 01:28:52
You know, do more than that and as we have more increment that's. 01:28:56
Probably the place where we want to put it. 01:28:59
Because that's the area that the quicker that's. 01:29:01
Something valuable. It'll create more economic activity, higher valued properties for property tax revenue, sales tax, etc etc. 01:29:04
OK. Thank you. Can I give some? 01:29:14
Easy, yeah. 01:29:16
These are so easy to cut. 01:29:18
Proposals. 01:29:20
We love easy to cut, all right? 01:29:21
Lobbyist 42,000. This is in contract services. 01:29:23
The economic development activities. 01:29:28
That would be the. 01:29:30
Kind of different organizations, they're in RDA budgets. 01:29:32
Didn't we already cut the lobbyists? 01:29:36
Nope, it's still in here. 01:29:38
As of the document I got. 01:29:39
The. 01:29:41
Right contract, yeah, cut it. 01:29:42
Great. I thought that was already budget for that. 01:29:43
Economic development activities 45,000 I'd love to get rid of that. 01:29:49
Yeah, they've already been notified they were. 01:29:52
Yeah. We got to take it out of the budget though. It's in the budget right now. I'm sorry, I thought we sent that in. 01:29:55
You can fire them, but if the budget is still there, we could do whatever we want with it, I guess, if staff could at that point. 01:29:59
So I just proposed, let's get rid of it. I thought you guys already got that. 01:30:03
It was in the RDA budget. We we said it to this. Oh, I guess. 01:30:07
There were two places. 01:30:12
You have to do on both sides, OK. 01:30:14
And I don't, I mean, the City 1 still had it in there too. So that was one of the cuts I proposed in the city budget too, just 01:30:17
getting rid of that. 01:30:20
So if we, I mean it's just going to sit in fund balance if we can just. 01:30:23
All agree. 01:30:26
So we could have. 01:30:28
Lowered property tax by at least that 42,000 but anyway. 01:30:29
45,000 economic development activities. 01:30:33
Does that workouts like $2.00 a house? 01:30:36
Was that? 01:30:38
42,000. 01:30:39
Yeah. I mean, I added it up to 16% a lot, but. 01:30:41
It could have been something. 01:30:44
And then? 01:30:47
The architecture for the downtown. 01:30:48
City facilities. 01:30:53
And the structural design. 01:30:56
That would be like another 50,000. 01:30:57
So just. 01:30:59
Reducing contracts. These are capital projects, so this would be contract services. 01:31:00
So it'd be about. 01:31:04
Hundred 200,000. 01:31:06
And those 100,000 removed already. 01:31:08
I thought that was a rarity from the Vineyard Center. 01:31:10
They're in the budget document I got so. 01:31:12
The scene do you know? 01:31:15
Chopping them, that was that we. Well, it was. 01:31:16
The document Evan sent. 01:31:18
Oh yeah, yeah. 01:31:19
Those were. 01:31:21
People held over from. 01:31:24
Last year and that was discussion. 01:31:26
I thought that if they weren't spent, they. 01:31:28
So we have to go through and say cut that. 01:31:31
You're basically your budget is saying. 01:31:34
I would love to your budget saying contract services would be like 800,000. 01:31:38
And I think the conversation here is does it have to be 800,000 because there's constituent? 01:31:42
Portions of the contract services that. 01:31:48
Add up to 800 that are unnecessary. 01:31:50
So be kind of a reduction of contract services, but. 01:31:53
Historically, I don't know that we've spent. 01:31:56
All the money in contract services and what we don't spend. 01:31:58
Ends up rolling to. 01:32:02
Other other priorities like incremental reimbursements, capital expense, etc, fully take away staff discretion to spend those 01:32:04
without an action by the governing body. 01:32:08
I agree with that. 01:32:12
I would just. 01:32:14
If there, if it wasn't spent, can we just do a? 01:32:15
Across the board. 01:32:18
From last year, we're removing all of that. 01:32:20
Because I instead of going 1 by 1 because I thought. 01:32:22
That was already done. I thought there's a lot of probably take a budget amendment at this point. 01:32:25
We've already passed the budget for now. 01:32:30
You haven't passed the budget. We're proposing the RDA budget, so. 01:32:32
Perhaps what you could do is right now can. 01:32:36
Contract services total is 800. 01:32:38
3000 and you're you're. 01:32:40
Proposing. 01:32:43
You know, upwards of $200,000. 01:32:44
Of contract services. 01:32:47
What? How much total? 01:32:48
127,000. 01:32:51
So you know. 01:32:54
Maybe to make it easy, just reduce it by. 01:32:56
123 it'll make it a round Number. 01:32:59
So then you could just. 01:33:02
Pass the budget and say contract services will be. 01:33:03
$680,000 even. 01:33:07
Sure. 01:33:10
But are we also? 01:33:11
Eliminating those line items so that it's. 01:33:12
Explicitly like the town hall, the. 01:33:15
The line items really. 01:33:18
Don't matter, aren't. 01:33:20
Part per se of the budget. The budget action is this. 01:33:21
High level schedule. 01:33:25
I see the line items are kind of made-up. 01:33:27
Largely by the executive branch. 01:33:30
Proposal as Hades with aid. OK. 01:33:31
Yeah, because I know the decision knows already to not do the City Hall and the. 01:33:34
I just didn't know that it needed to be removed. 01:33:38
OK, so just lower it by 600,000? 01:33:42
Is that by 100 and? 01:33:45
23120 down to six, 680 total. 01:33:46
OK. 01:33:51
Thank you. 01:33:52
Any other? 01:33:53
Any other discussion Council? 01:33:54
On this. 01:33:56
I'm ready to move forward. 01:33:59
OK, sounds great. 01:34:00
I will entertain a motion. 01:34:01
I move we accept the Redevelopment Agency budget that's presented with the. 01:34:04
With the initial amendment of removing the. 01:34:09
Line items. 01:34:11
For consulting services. 01:34:13
And. 01:34:16
This downtown City Hall. 01:34:19
Contract services to 680. 01:34:22
Yeah, reduce contract services 680. 01:34:24
Yeah, OK. 01:34:27
Alright, do I have a second that? 01:34:28
I second, second, All right Second by Jay Cold. 01:34:31
Roll call on this one, Jake. 01:34:35
I Jacob Wood. 01:34:37
I, David. 01:34:38
Hi, Ezra. 01:34:39
I'm gonna know. 01:34:40
I did have more cuts but. 01:34:42
I can work with you guys so I will approve it. 01:34:43
Even though I didn't get my full way, so all right. 01:34:46
If I can't discuss in the meeting, I'll just do it the motion, but we give you a lot of free campaign time earlier. 01:34:50
Motion passes. Appreciate the hours are good already. 01:34:56
OK, that is all we have for today, are we? 01:35:00
I saw on the agenda for a closed session, no. 01:35:04
No, yeah. 01:35:07
Just a carryover, OK. 01:35:10
OK. 01:35:12
OK, alrighty. 01:35:14
Pass it that is. 01:35:15
RDA meeting. 01:35:17
Adjourned. 01:35:19
Thanks guys. 01:35:20
I was just going to talk you guys after. 01:35:29
Yeah. Do you want to do that? Yeah, individually. 01:35:31
Yeah, yeah. 01:35:34
You already. 01:35:37
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Event transcript
OK. 00:10:21
All righty. 00:10:29
Welcome out everybody. We are going to call to order the City Council meeting. It's June 23rd, 2026 at. 00:10:31
6:03 PM. 00:10:38
I've asked. 00:10:41
David Height. 00:10:42
To say the. 00:10:43
Opening prayer and pledge. 00:10:44
And then? 00:10:46
You're going to get a cool flag pin. 00:10:47
So Yep, come on up and. 00:10:49
Per them pledge. Thank you so much brother. 00:10:52
Our dear, gracious heavenly Father, we come before thee in gratitude to be here as a. 00:10:58
As a neighborhood. 00:11:03
To. 00:11:05
Represent the city of Vineyard that we love. We ask her to please bless that Thy Spirit will be with us. 00:11:06
Please. 00:11:12
Help our our ears to listen, open our ears to listen and. 00:11:14
And our hearts to understand as we discuss the city and what's best for it. 00:11:18
Plus our councilmen, each of them. 00:11:23
As they. 00:11:26
Continue to. 00:11:27
Try to do what's truly best for this city. 00:11:29
Help us to. 00:11:32
Be good examples to everyone around us, especially our neighbors. 00:11:34
And we pray for these things. The name of thy Son, Jesus Christ, Amen. 00:11:38
Amen. 00:11:41
I pledge allegiance to the flag. 00:11:51
Of the United States of America. 00:11:53
And to the Republic. 00:11:56
One nation under God. 00:11:58
Individual. 00:12:01
With liberty and justice for all. 00:12:02
Awesome. Thank you. 00:12:05
Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate that. Oh, hey. 00:12:07
David, you got to get your pin. 00:12:10
Yeah. 00:12:11
Thought that was maybe the end thing. No no, I'd say we we right here. 00:12:12
It's the real deal. 00:12:18
OK, all righty, we are gonna do. 00:12:19
Start off, change up the agenda a little bit. I'm going to have a presentation and recognition of the library board. I'm going to 00:12:21
turn the time over. Brian, are you here to talk about that? Come on up and kind of walk us through this and. 00:12:27
And. 00:12:32
Now this is awesome. Super excited. 00:12:33
Thank you, Mayor and council. My name is Brian Vaudrey. I just wanted to stand in. 00:12:35
We have reached the milestone here in Vineyard to get the Vineyard Library certified. 00:12:40
That's consisted of a major three-year project. 00:12:46
So there's a lot of work that's required in order to. 00:12:49
To hit that point, it requires years of work and data collection reporting. 00:12:52
Policy development. 00:12:57
Programming growth. 00:12:58
Operational standards and community engagement. 00:13:00
This is really awesome for the city because it means that we. 00:13:03
We meet the same statewide operational standards the established public libraries have throughout Utah that they follow. 00:13:07
And it also opens the door to a lot more funding opportunities for state and federal funding. 00:13:15
Resources, partnerships and really future growth for. 00:13:22
Library services. 00:13:25
Just want to. 00:13:28
Thank Valerie and the library board. 00:13:30
Many of them are here, and for all of their phenomenal work, they've put in a lot of. 00:13:33
A lot of time to get the city to this point and and it really is a huge win so. 00:13:38
If we can just give them a round of applause really quick. 00:13:44
Valerie, is there anything that you wanted to say? 00:13:54
No, thank you. 00:13:58
Perfect. OK. 00:14:01
Well, sounds great. 00:14:02
Awesome, let's do this. Can we take a picture? 00:14:03
Is that all right? I think this is definitely picture worthy, so let's have everyone on the. 00:14:05
Come on up. 00:14:09
Councils come down here, that be great. 00:14:10
You're wearing a BYU shirt my man. Great bro. 00:14:15
Or maybe not. 00:14:21
I think we usually, yeah. 00:14:26
Thanks, Mar. 00:14:32
All right. 00:14:47
Thank you guys. 00:14:53
Congratulations. 00:14:54
All righty. Thank you so much. 00:15:13
Yeah. 00:15:17
All righty, we are going to jump now to a. 00:15:19
Public hearing for the municipal code updates for the stormwater management. 00:15:21
So I'm going to, we need you a public hearing for that. So I'm going to open up the public hearing. 00:15:25
I now open the public hearing for the municipal code updates for stormwater management. 00:15:30
It does. Does it take a motion? 00:15:37
We do not need a motion. Robin looked it up. Awesome. 00:15:40
OK, awesome, so off we go. 00:15:44
OK, let's. 00:15:47
Is anyone wanting to speak to that? 00:15:49
I'm going to move this. 00:15:51
One man band. 00:16:01
OK. 00:16:04
That didn't sound good. 00:16:09
OK, no takers on that one. No problem. 00:16:16
Artist. So I'm going to close the public hearing for the stormwater management. 00:16:19
All right, we're going to jump now to #4 public hearing for the fiscal, the final fiscal year 20262027 budget. I know I'll open up 00:16:23
the public hearing. 00:16:28
For that. 00:16:32
If anyone would like to speak to that. 00:16:33
Please come on down to the microphone. 00:16:35
OK, good. 00:16:41
All right, we will. 00:16:43
Close that public hearing for the budget. 00:16:44
All righty now on #6 we're going to open up for public comments. 00:16:47
Anyone have public comments? 00:16:54
Do we have anybody sign up, Robin? 00:16:58
OK. 00:17:04
Awesome. 00:17:06
On to the next one. 00:17:08
OK #7. 00:17:10
Consent items can I get? 00:17:13
Anyone want to peel off any of these consent items to debate them or talk about them more? 00:17:15
OK. I will take a motion. 00:17:22
On those. 00:17:25
I move to approve the consent items as presented. 00:17:26
Awesome. First by Jake. Do I have a second? 00:17:29
Second. OK, all in favor. 00:17:31
Aye, OK. Consent items pass. 00:17:34
All righty, we're going to jump to #8 now. 00:17:37
Approve Ordinance 20. 00:17:39
26 Nine Stormwater management code update in a seam. I'm going to turn the. 00:17:42
Time over to you to go over this. 00:17:47
My dad. 00:17:59
So. 00:18:03
Thank you Sanuseum Ghidorah, Public Works Director. So the public works. 00:18:05
Department is presenting the A. 00:18:09
Revision. 00:18:12
Or update to our municipal code through amendment. It's Chapter 7 point. 00:18:13
08. 00:18:17
And this is specifically in regards to our stormwater. 00:18:20
Our stormwater management and as well as enforcement. 00:18:23
On that, I wanted to definitely give kudos, credits to Patrick James, our assistant city engineer. Who's not? 00:18:27
Who's not able to be here today? 00:18:33
As well as Kinsley McDermott, who is in the back. 00:18:35
There, who's taking on the role as the Ms. 4 coordinator? 00:18:38
As well as our. 00:18:41
As well as our outgoing Ms. 4 coordinator who has been fully supported. 00:18:43
Help helping support us. 00:18:47
Through. 00:18:49
Our updates. 00:18:50
So in short. 00:18:51
There we go. 00:18:53
In short, I just want to always emphasize our. 00:18:54
Emphasize our mission for public works about sustaining essential services as well as. 00:18:57
Protect. 00:19:02
Protecting citizens welfare and acceptable quality of life. So this falls. 00:19:04
Definitely into the welfare, welfare and quality of life aspect. 00:19:08
On that. 00:19:12
All these slides have been. 00:19:13
Provided on our on the agenda for preview by the council and the public, so I won't spend much time. 00:19:14
On any of these particular slides, but if. 00:19:21
Any if anyone wants me to elaborate on any particular point or slide please. 00:19:23
Do so. 00:19:29
On that but I thought this this graphic was very. 00:19:30
A representation representative of in terms of how important our stormwater management is. 00:19:32
And where everything ends up into our drinking water. 00:19:38
So. 00:19:44
Moving forward. 00:19:44
Why is this needed and short? It's needed because we do have a permit with the state. 00:19:45
What we call. 00:19:50
Our MS-4 permit. Don't ask me what MS-4 means because I keep forgetting it. It's municipal storm water. Separate storm water. 00:19:51
And then that's kind of where I stopped on that one. 00:19:59
So but. 00:20:01
It's a permit through the state through the Department of Water Quality. 00:20:03
On that, what the ordinance does in short, it. 00:20:09
Establish. Excuse me? It updates our chapter 7.08 and consolidates everything into a single chapter. 00:20:12
Talking in regards to authority. 00:20:18
Prep, illicit discharge. 00:20:20
Construction storm water. 00:20:23
Long term stormwater of maintenance requirements, inspections as well as enforcement. 00:20:25
On that and consolidate everything into single code chapter. 00:20:31
Kind of saying, why are we doing this update? Mainly because the state told us to do it. 00:20:35
So. 00:20:39
It's a state mandated. 00:20:41
Key program areas for this. 00:20:44
Area if anyone would like to you know, go and go to the details of course, if any resident. 00:20:47
Or Councilmember. 00:20:52
We're like we are happy set up one on ones too for education. 00:20:54
Separate from our public education efforts that we do throughout the year. 00:20:57
So it talks about listed discharge, construction stormwater and post construction stormwater. 00:21:01
The benefits of veneer city. 00:21:06
Is everything ends up into our into Utah Lake and what we were trying to do is improve the quality of water that goes into Utah 00:21:08
Lake. So we are protecting not only our natural resources, but our. 00:21:14
Welfare, our safety and welfare for because that's the water that we drink. 00:21:20
Than the day so. 00:21:25
In short, with this ordinance, there is one administrative change. I did my best to copy and paste the administrative change. 00:21:29
And to the ordinance, we got an e-mail this morning from the state. 00:21:36
With their. 00:21:40
Suggestion in terms of. 00:21:42
An update into our ordinance that they would like to see done. 00:21:45
And of course, that update does make sense and we made those changes. So Council on up there, we provide you the updated. 00:21:49
Marked with what's updated. This is really considered administrative change because it doesn't change. 00:21:56
The the. 00:22:01
In essence that. 00:22:04
The context. 00:22:06
What the ordinance does. 00:22:07
But as you can see it's specifically update. 00:22:09
Revision to Section 7.08. 00:22:12
.100 under illicit discharges and connections. 00:22:15
In short, it captures all the. 00:22:19
Types of discharges in our permit and. 00:22:22
States that. 00:22:26
Discharges are authorized underneath the vineyard. 00:22:28
MS-4 permit. 00:22:32
Which is issued by the state. 00:22:33
Our next steps after the. 00:22:35
The adoption of this ordinance. 00:22:37
Is to continue with our updating our city procedures for the standards and mostly with our contractors. 00:22:39
To ensure that compliance is being met. 00:22:46
And continue our implementation. 00:22:49
But more importantly, in bottom line, to support stormwater compliance and water quality protection. 00:22:51
So again there was a. 00:22:58
On our newsletter, there was an awesome awesome. 00:23:00
Public education outreach in regards to why so why? Why stormwater protection? 00:23:04
Under management, there we go. 00:23:11
And I felt the need that it would be proven for me to copy and paste that on here. 00:23:13
So, and at the end, small actions lead to big impacts. 00:23:18
That is my presentation. 00:23:23
Awesome. Thank you so much. Naseem. Any questions? 00:23:24
To counsel for NASIM on this or. 00:23:27
Anything regarding? 00:23:30
This ordinance. 00:23:33
OK, sounds good. So the motion to see we need a. 00:23:37
Adopt the motion as presented by staff. Is that correct? OK. 00:23:40
So can I get a motion? 00:23:43
On that. 00:23:45
Real quick. 00:23:48
Just for the public's benefit. 00:23:49
If you see somebody. 00:23:51
Dumping something down a storm drain. 00:23:54
Paint or liquids? What would you do to? 00:23:56
Make sure that doesn't happen in the future. 00:24:01
So if. 00:24:03
And again, Kinsley's here, she's a she's more happy to us talk specifics, but in short, we do on our website, we do have the 00:24:04
report concern we also have. 00:24:09
Phone number. 00:24:15
That Dallas to Kinsley back there. 00:24:16
So she gets to. 00:24:19
Respond to those calls day and night. 00:24:20
For something like that, they are also able to call the police. 00:24:23
Dispatch. 00:24:27
You're also able to call fire dispatch. 00:24:28
As well. 00:24:30
Specifically police, because if someone's actively doing it, we do want to make sure that we are able to do the enforcement 00:24:32
actions after fact because. 00:24:36
Cleanup does cost money. 00:24:39
And we would like to make sure that the people doing it. 00:24:41
Does pay for it if it's something that they see? 00:24:43
Action like so they didn't witness it happening but they see like. 00:24:47
Like oil chains and so forth. 00:24:51
They're able during the workdays, they're able to call the city office, contact public works. 00:24:53
We do have after hours. 00:24:59
During weekend nights and weekends as well as fire department is trained. 00:25:01
In order to respond to those items as well. 00:25:05
And they do reach out. We do have in our budget. 00:25:07
For listed discharge for large items. 00:25:10
Areas that we cannot do ourselves to take care of as well, but. 00:25:12
If we're able to. 00:25:17
Apprehend, say. 00:25:18
The bad actors during the fact. 00:25:19
That actually does help us. 00:25:22
Ensure that those. 00:25:24
Those people are being taken care of as well. 00:25:27
That's great. Thanks. 00:25:29
Awesome. Any further questions? 00:25:32
Great. Are we doing any social media on that? Like stormwater? 00:25:35
Have we done anything like that? 00:25:40
I think we did some stuff this spring, right? Yeah, I think we've done a few posts. 00:25:42
Over the spring. 00:25:47
Yeah, and it was in the newsletter, like the article they post in the news there was really awesome and kind of. 00:25:48
He goes to walk away from the South side of the of the valley, right and. 00:25:55
We lost 4 cows. 00:25:59
Four years ago. 00:26:01
In a week period and it does affect wildlife and so downstream it really does affect so teaching people don't put anything. 00:26:03
Makes wildlife and. 00:26:11
Cows sick, Yeah. 00:26:13
So I want to have a new headline. 00:26:16
Don't kill the cows. Don't kill animals. They do stay there like they go to our wetlands. They do. 00:26:19
I mean all of our, all of our streets. 00:26:25
You know, deposited into our precious wetlands and our birds are in there, so, you know. 00:26:27
All righty, I will call for a. 00:26:33
Motion on 8.1. 00:26:36
I make a motion to approve 8 business item 8.1 ordinance. 00:26:45
2609 Stormwater management code update as presented. 00:26:50
OK, second. 00:26:55
Awesome. All in favor no? 00:26:56
I'm sorry, we roll calling this one. 00:26:58
So, second by David Luray. Do we get that? 00:27:00
And let's do this roll call, Ezra. 00:27:02
I, David. 00:27:05
Jacob Wood, I am Jake I. 00:27:07
OK, ordinance passes. 00:27:09
All righty, let's jump into 8.2. 00:27:13
The fiscal. 00:27:15
Financial Budget. 00:27:17
Let's do this. 00:27:22
I'm going to turn the time over. 00:27:25
To Evan. 00:27:27
Thank you so much, first, Evan, for all the hard work you put into this budget. 00:27:28
A lot of long hours and. 00:27:33
And a lot of work has gone into this I. 00:27:37
Really truly appreciate this and all of staff. 00:27:38
It's been great so. 00:27:40
You want to walk us through? 00:27:42
Final. 00:27:44
Adjustments. 00:27:46
We made. 00:27:47
Yeah. Thank you, Mayor. I'm just trying to. 00:27:52
Bring this up here so we can. 00:27:54
Walk through the presentation. 00:27:57
Very similar presentation to what we had when we. 00:28:00
Oops, I just. 00:28:03
My mouse and. 00:28:04
Added a cool thing there. 00:28:06
I have the same summary presentation, just with the changes that we you know. 00:28:11
The updated numbers. 00:28:15
From what we did when we we had the tentative budget. 00:28:16
And there haven't been. 00:28:19
Large changes to that that you'll see in here. 00:28:22
A few expense. 00:28:26
Item changes. 00:28:27
And. 00:28:29
A little bit on the revenue side that we won't go so far into, but there were a couple of items. 00:28:31
On the grants that were removed. 00:28:36
Related to items on the CapEx list that were removed. 00:28:38
And largely, that was. 00:28:44
The big change, as well as not drawing on anything from the beginning. 00:28:45
Fund balance of the General Fund. 00:28:50
To. 00:28:53
To start out the year. 00:28:54
So largely everything on this. 00:28:57
Every actually everything on this sheet is the same. 00:29:00
And I can pause on some of these if there are questions about any of the revenue. 00:29:04
Forecasted tax revenues. 00:29:09
Revenues from permits and fees. 00:29:11
And then you've got. 00:29:14
Other as well that roll in here. 00:29:15
Again, we've got our pie chart. 00:29:24
Things didn't change a whole lot here from the the slices of the pie. 00:29:26
And if you're seeing this for the first time? 00:29:31
Police and fire, Public safety. 00:29:35
You know, are the largest chunks of our budget and and is for that's the way for most cities as well and so. 00:29:37
In fact, for all cities that I know. 00:29:45
And we're proud to invest in that in the public safety. 00:29:47
The one change here I want to point out. 00:29:52
From the tentative budget. 00:29:54
Is that that fire? 00:29:57
Budget has dropped. 00:29:59
A fairly significant amount. 00:30:02
I want to say it was about 180,000. 00:30:04
Does that sound right? 00:30:07
But this is. 00:30:08
Yeah, more or less so. 00:30:10
What that entails is. 00:30:13
Is not a decrease in our level of service, but. 00:30:14
When we built. 00:30:18
The. 00:30:19
The fire department, the bricks and mortar. 00:30:20
Department here. There was an overage of costs by about. 00:30:23
220,000 if I remember right. 00:30:27
And theorem. 00:30:30
Paid for on our behalf and then they were charging it back and so. 00:30:32
They were kind enough to to. 00:30:36
Finance that for us at 0% interest over five years. 00:30:40
And so we're able to reduce that cost that's hitting us this year in the budget. 00:30:44
And and it's sort of spread over. 00:30:48
The next four years as well. 00:30:51
That was the big change here. 00:30:53
And we appreciate that partnership with Orem. 00:30:56
OK. 00:31:01
Our capital projects list I've. 00:31:04
I've changed. 00:31:07
The the layout here based on some feedback from the first time. 00:31:08
Previously we just had everything bulleted out. 00:31:12
It listed the amounts, but what was missing there was. 00:31:15
Which fund these are coming out of and what the? 00:31:18
Department, so I've listed that out here. 00:31:20
And largely. 00:31:23
Same things are here. 00:31:25
As we're here in the tentative budget. 00:31:26
We just had. 00:31:28
The things removed that we discussed before. 00:31:30
That were related to delineation of wetlands. There were some things with with bike park and the. 00:31:32
The area that's north of Gammon Park. 00:31:40
And those were removed from from the budget based, you know that we discussed in prior meetings. 00:31:43
So we've got the items from the general fund. 00:31:50
The Impact Fee fund. 00:31:52
We've labeled this down here, it's not a separate fund, but the rap tax and the your grant. 00:31:55
That's called out separately, largely because. 00:32:01
Of the skate park. 00:32:05
That that's a fairly hefty expense. 00:32:06
That was approved before and we have a grant from York that's that's covering half of that. 00:32:09
The next sheet, we've got things labeled from the transportation fund. 00:32:17
Wastewater Fund. Water Fund. 00:32:20
And instead of reading through all these, since they're largely the same, I'm just. 00:32:27
Just letting you look at these. 00:32:31
And holler if you've got a question on it. 00:32:33
And the last sheet has things listed for the RDA. 00:32:38
And again, those are the same. 00:32:42
Has in the tentative budget. 00:32:46
We have the water fund overview. 00:32:50
And again. 00:32:52
You can see the. 00:32:53
The track how things were tracking over the last several years. 00:32:54
Expenses and revenues coming up a little bit on that this year. 00:32:59
The Wastewater fund. 00:33:03
Expenses come down. 00:33:06
Revenues up a little bit. 00:33:07
The Stormwater fund is is always one that's. 00:33:10
Tracking to operate in a bit of a deficit. 00:33:14
And so that continues on this year. 00:33:18
Transportation Fund. 00:33:24
We've talked before about the the removal of that that tough. 00:33:30
That was pulled out earlier in the year. 00:33:34
And. 00:33:37
How that's tracking? 00:33:42
Our internal service fund. 00:33:45
Down a little bit. 00:33:47
This year. 00:33:49
A little bit higher than it was in fiscal year 24. 00:33:51
And these are the items in the internal service fund. 00:33:54
Revenue largely showing what's coming in from from. 00:33:58
From other funds. 00:34:02
And the administration facilities fleet. 00:34:03
Information systems and human resources are. 00:34:07
Are the main things there. 00:34:10
Some of the. 00:34:13
Some departments will have. 00:34:14
Specific IT expenses if they know they're getting a new computer or. 00:34:16
Specific software like Adobe licenses and things like that, but. 00:34:22
Most of it. 00:34:25
Is resides in this. 00:34:26
This main bucket. 00:34:28
And that's it. 00:34:33
We move through that fairly quick. 00:34:34
But again, awesome, Thank you. Similar to the tentative budget. 00:34:36
OK, I will open this up to Council for discussion. 00:34:40
Chat about this again. Thank you for your hard work on the seven, really appreciate it. 00:34:43
I'd like to go first. I can go first. Yeah, go ahead. 00:34:50
Want to thank staff, I know it's been tough. 00:34:54
Dealing with. 00:34:56
You know, we just hired you, Brian, a couple of weeks ago. 00:34:57
Evan a couple months ago. 00:35:01
Now you guys have been dealing with a lot of turnover, so thank you for for everything you've been able to provide when you've 00:35:02
been able to provide it. 00:35:04
It's been incredibly helpful and. 00:35:07
Helping me. 00:35:11
Review and. 00:35:12
Kind of make suggestions and propose changes to this. 00:35:14
I do have. 00:35:18
Some suggestions? 00:35:20
I know. 00:35:22
A lot of the members of this council have expressed a desire to. 00:35:24
You know, reduce property taxes. 00:35:28
So, uh. 00:35:30
Considering that, I decided to. 00:35:32
Put together. 00:35:34
A few different options for budget proposals that. 00:35:35
That would reduce. 00:35:39
Property taxes. 00:35:40
Provide a. 00:35:42
Meaningful cuts to the certified rate, which would. 00:35:43
In turn, lower property taxes for. 00:35:46
For our citizens. 00:35:48
And I wanted to give some options. I don't believe in just. 00:35:51
Showing up to. 00:35:54
A budget and voting no because I don't like it. 00:35:56
Without proposing. 00:35:58
Alternate solutions. 00:36:00
I know we have to. 00:36:01
Establish the budget by the end of the month. 00:36:04
So we do have. 00:36:06
You know, one more Tuesday where we could potentially continue this if we wanted. 00:36:08
Another week to. 00:36:12
Adopt the budget. 00:36:15
By that June 30th deadline, with next Tuesday being that 5th. 00:36:16
5th, 5th Tuesday in June that we normally don't meet, but we could, you know, set up a meeting if we wanted to do that. 00:36:20
So I'd love to take some time to review this a little bit more and. 00:36:29
I see where we can maybe have some consensus on some of the cuts that that I'm proposing in a few of the different budget options. 00:36:35
You know I presented. 00:36:41
Three different ones that I just posted online to the public at. 00:36:43
I'll send you guys a copy after this meeting if you're interested. 00:36:47
But I don't want to. 00:36:51
Have you guys waste your time on it if the rest of the council isn't? 00:36:52
Supportive of at least exploring it. So that would be my invitation. 00:36:55
See if we could at least explore it and take some time to. 00:36:59
To review it and see where we might have consensus. 00:37:02
Council where we at? 00:37:06
I'd be curious to hear exactly what your library plan is. 00:37:07
Having just a. 00:37:11
Awarded anyway, Go ahead. 00:37:13
Sure, I proposed 3 different budgets 1. 00:37:16
Was. 00:37:19
The most drastic? 00:37:20
Cuts that kind of mimicked. 00:37:22
You know, there was a lot of talk about how Vineyard has the highest taxes and all of Utah County. 00:37:24
And we need to. 00:37:28
Make sure that doesn't happen. 00:37:29
So I tried my very best to see what I could try to do to make. 00:37:31
That as low as possible and try to make us at least the most competitive with other cities. 00:37:35
Within our county. 00:37:39
And part of that included a lot of drastic cuts. So so 1 was. 00:37:40
Proposing to to cut the entire library, entire rec programs. 00:37:45
A lot of those services that I love personally. 00:37:50
I think are great benefits of the community. 00:37:53
But if we're. 00:37:55
Going to have a real conversation about what it's going to take to reduce property taxes. 00:37:56
That was just a proposal that I. 00:38:01
Had suggested that would allow us to keep a lot of our other operations. 00:38:03
My favorite proposal of the three. 00:38:07
Is the third one that I that I'd suggested which. 00:38:09
Didn't cut the library, didn't cut Parks and Rec, but it also had. 00:38:13
Much lower property tax. 00:38:16
Or a much. 00:38:18
Smaller property tax decrease so. 00:38:19
The kind of harsh cut version I was looking at. 00:38:21
Was about a 26% cut in property taxes. 00:38:24
The much more mild one that I think is very doable. 00:38:27
But doesn't cut the library or our rec rec programs. 00:38:31
Is only a 16% cut in property taxes, so. 00:38:34
Two options if people are serious about. 00:38:38
Hey, the larger cuts, I mean 16% isn't really going to make us. 00:38:40
You know, the lowest in in the entire county. 00:38:44
Still a long ways to go to be the lowest in the county. I think we'd have to. 00:38:47
Kept by like at least 50%. 00:38:51
So I was trying my best but. 00:38:54
There were just too many services that I didn't want to cut, I thought. 00:38:56
These would substantially affect us in the long term as far as. 00:38:59
Just providing those basic government services to people. But if we want to bare bones government, if we want to kind of 00:39:03
eliminate. 00:39:06
All of the. 00:39:09
Things that. 00:39:10
We love and see as a benefit the community and I would even argue have. 00:39:11
An outsized impact on. 00:39:15
You know our community. 00:39:17
Fabric and just. 00:39:19
Helping our citizens. 00:39:20
Be invested in our community. 00:39:22
But that are harder to kind of tie a direct ROI to. 00:39:25
And her stuff that you know. 00:39:29
Doesn't necessarily need to be provided by the government. The government doesn't have to. 00:39:31
Be the and I'll be all solution of all problems. We could not provide these things and look to either the private sector or 00:39:34
nonprofit groups to to. 00:39:38
To stand it up. 00:39:43
With donations or with other? 00:39:45
And, you know, business communities. So if you're not particularly serious about. 00:39:47
Eliminating the library. 00:39:50
Now I would prefer option 3, but option 1 was. 00:39:52
The the 26% cut was more to align with. 00:39:56
You guys have made it clear that I'm just an appointed. 00:40:00
Council member and that the voters chose you guys so I thought hey. 00:40:02
Why don't we look to some of the promises that that you guys made to voters and. 00:40:05
See if I can mimic that to try to. 00:40:09
Kind of establish. 00:40:11
Some credibility here as a council member instead of I wouldn't have wanted tax a little lower. I wish county taxes were lower. Be 00:40:12
nice if you'd apply the same principles to county tax. I'm pretty comfortable with the budget. I know Parker and the mayor and 00:40:18
staff have worked really hard on this. I appreciate that. Well, how much money are you saving from previous year? 00:40:24
Do you know how much money you were? 00:40:29
It's at 1.2 million. 00:40:31
From the previous year. 00:40:33
I should have that ready. 00:40:37
Don't right in front of me negative how many dollars savings of previous year? 00:40:40
To compare that. 00:40:45
I can give my while you're looking for that, I can give you my comments so I can give you a by department though. 00:40:49
Number. Yeah, for five of them. 00:40:54
For the top five. 00:40:56
So there's cuts of planning of 285,604. 00:40:58
Parks has cut 160,742. 00:41:03
Public Works has cut 120,117. 00:41:07
City Manager Budget is cut 89,717. 00:41:12
And the building department cut 48,814. 00:41:17
I would love. 00:41:24
My comment. 00:41:27
Please go ahead. 00:41:28
I have served. 00:41:32
In government. 00:41:33
For. 00:41:34
20 years. 00:41:35
Being the largest auction service in the country. 00:41:37
And getting rid of. 00:41:41
And selling when governments. 00:41:44
Cut and figure out when they don't hit the budget so. 00:41:46
Seeing the finances. 00:41:49
Vineyard. 00:41:51
Our rainy day funds were depleted. 00:41:53
Extremely depleted. 00:41:56
By a recommendation, we're supposed to have certain funds, six months of reserves, 3 months. Some of our reserves in certain 00:41:58
accounts were. 00:42:02
Six weeks. 4 weeks. 00:42:06
This budget. 00:42:09
Will replenish all of those. 00:42:10
Rainy day funds and I'm excited to see a budget by budget where those are. 00:42:12
#2. 00:42:18
Which is incredible that the mayor is not sharing. 00:42:20
It needs to be the highlight, which is. 00:42:23
The previous council proposed. 00:42:26
Doing a bond for 40 million to fix our City Hall problems. 00:42:27
Public Works has proposed in addition to the. 00:42:32
Public works. 00:42:37
Building. 00:42:38
To do an addition and we're paying for that in cash. 00:42:39
Without bonding. 00:42:43
And we're holding the line on the budget. 00:42:44
Which is incredible. So we are not going to the residence to ask for 40 million to fix our. 00:42:47
Problem. 00:42:53
By doing that. 00:42:55
This gives us another year to get the rainy day funds now by holding the line. 00:42:56
If you follow the. 00:43:01
What the city has done year over year. 00:43:03
We increase between 701.2 million in revenue just because of growth, sales tax, property tax. 00:43:06
Whatever it may be, we go up by about $1,000,000 annually. 00:43:14
So by just holding the line. 00:43:18
With the current budget of what our spending is are close to. 00:43:20
But yet allowing those revenues to increase by that million? 00:43:23
It will allow us to be in a very strong. 00:43:27
Or stronger financial situation so that if we do have another Main Street road break. 00:43:31
If we were to have. 00:43:37
Last year. 00:43:39
Too much snow We might not have had enough in our rainy day, right For some of the things that. 00:43:40
That could have happened. 00:43:45
So yeah, we didn't. We're not cutting the budget. 00:43:47
In this we are maintaining while the spending. Now the other things is we do not know in total sales tax the type of increase we 00:43:50
might see. 00:43:54
A dramatic sales tax increase because of Bella's supermarket, but you don't really know that yet of how much more will that will 00:43:59
increase. So instead of spending that. 00:44:04
Holding the line is pizza too, and Feeny's pizza and and other things and so. 00:44:09
Being able to see that, but also just just the addition of the public works. 00:44:14
Add-on. 00:44:19
And being able to say. 00:44:20
Vineyard does not need a City Hall for 10 to 15 years down the road. 00:44:22
And we're not going to be going to taxpayers to be able to do that and reconfiguring that solution and being so innovative. 00:44:26
And the last thing I just want to say is. 00:44:33
I just want to thank every department head that. 00:44:35
Worked with. 00:44:38
Parker and the mayor. 00:44:40
And DK because. 00:44:42
I know. 00:44:44
You know, we came in the council and we didn't do draconian cuts. We came and said hey. 00:44:45
Were four times the tax rate as Aurum. 00:44:50
We've got to find ways. The vast majority of these came from their suggestions or the mayor looking through. 00:44:53
Saying hey, is there? Is there something we can do here? 00:44:59
I also know with Brian being in. 00:45:02
Just over a month. 00:45:04
He is going to be going through and looking at the amount of cars that we have. 00:45:06
Those policies. 00:45:10
And the last thing that I would just say, and I don't want to. 00:45:12
Me and the mayor disagree on quite a few things. In fact we get heated quite a bit. 00:45:15
But uh. 00:45:19
Just a little bit to see a business owner come in. 00:45:21
In government, we're required to. 00:45:24
Put forth to the voters and say. 00:45:28
This is our budget for the year and put it in paper and show everyone. 00:45:30
But what I've seen the mayor do month over month is have a phone call and look at something and say. 00:45:35
Can I adjust the budget here? We can save here we can do this, we can, we can fine tune. 00:45:42
And so I'm excited that we held the line here. 00:45:46
But in allowing. 00:45:50
Our mayor and our and our leadership. 00:45:52
Every quarter because most businesses will do this quarterly. 00:45:55
Allow us. 00:45:59
OK. In the first quarter, what are some things we do because cell phones can be cleaned up? 00:46:00
Cars can be cleaned up. 00:46:05
There's a few other things that. 00:46:07
I'm just really excited for, so I just want to say thank you to all the staff that put this all together. 00:46:09
Appreciate that. Jake, could I ask you a question and. 00:46:15
Particular since you were here for the last. 00:46:18
Tax increase. 00:46:20
You spoke pretty openly about the. 00:46:23
About not needing a tax increase. 00:46:27
I just wanted to know what your thoughts on that tax increase now is? 00:46:29
We have an opportunity now where? 00:46:34
You know you guys. 00:46:36
We can all adopt this budget. 00:46:37
Which would. 00:46:39
Solidify that tax increase in perpetuity. 00:46:40
Or we could look at potentially removing that. 00:46:43
I know you've offered a lot of suggestions. I took some of those actually and. 00:46:45
In some of my budget proposals. 00:46:49
And as such, I'd be willing to to vote for. 00:46:51
Any of them. 00:46:53
That. 00:46:55
I do have support. I think we're. 00:46:56
I think next year is going to be incredible in terms of tax cuts, but I would never run such a large organization on fumes with 00:46:58
such little money in. 00:47:03
Knowing that we're responsible for some incredible. 00:47:08
Infrastructure and knowing that our funds are so depleted. So it scares me and I see that wisdom. 00:47:12
To voters and saying, hey, we're going to hold the line. 00:47:19
And then? 00:47:22
Seeing that. 00:47:23
$1,000,000 I mean, we're hoping it'll be a 1.2 or whatever. 00:47:25
Dollar increase. 00:47:29
You know when the mayor first proposed it and said. 00:47:30
Hey, there's this innovative idea to we could pay cash point of order. 00:47:33
We need to do the. 00:47:39
To the agenda, sorry, real quick, that's OK, it's just saying I. 00:47:40
We've allowed Ezra's chance to. 00:47:44
Right, campaign, I would just say looking back to the agenda, yeah, I just say I just believe in in paint that that getting that 00:47:46
addition in the public works facility and allowing us to do that. 00:47:51
And then? 00:47:57
The space and what the staff need and to be able to pay that off in cash. 00:47:59
I was like. 00:48:04
I think you do it because. 00:48:05
It's it's not going to be over our head and it's a smart investment and the staff that thought through that was just. 00:48:07
And I love the ideas that this came. 00:48:13
Together as a group to. 00:48:15
Think about how to post them in. 00:48:16
I will say. 00:48:18
I think a target in getting out of the HVA building. 00:48:19
On rental if that's the ability for in the next 6 months would be incredible. So anyway. 00:48:23
Thanks, Jake. 00:48:28
I'm the I'm gonna. 00:48:29
Jump over to David Larae. Do you have some? 00:48:31
Did you have a comment, David? 00:48:33
Love to hear what you're talking. 00:48:35
Sorry. Sorry. I was just wanting to get back to the order business. Sure. 00:48:36
Yeah, I think, I think we're talking about. So Jake, you mentioned the. 00:48:41
The fund balances. 00:48:44
Being replenished. 00:48:46
Which ones of those do you see being replenished I'm looking at? 00:48:49
Kind of each of those individual funds and. 00:48:52
And each of them are using fund balance. So we're not necessarily except for in the general fund contributing. 00:48:54
We do have a small increase in the general fund fund balance, but. 00:49:02
Well, we're still waiting on like a sales tax increases numbers to come in, right? 00:49:06
So we're. 00:49:10
We're still waiting to find out what. 00:49:11
Those I and I called in today to find out. Do we know what type of increase? 00:49:13
In total revenues we're going to be seeing by just holding the line, right? 00:49:18
Yeah. But currently with with the current projections we are. 00:49:22
Projected to. 00:49:25
Spend down each of our. 00:49:26
Each of our fund balances other than. 00:49:28
270,000. 00:49:31
Being added to the general fund Which? 00:49:33
We have a $4.7 million. 00:49:36
Estimated beginning fund balance going into the year. 00:49:40
So. 00:49:43
You know, that's roughly. 00:49:44
5% increase to that. 00:49:46
Do you? 00:49:49
Are you, are you comfortable with these reserves? You feel like these reserves are good because. 00:49:50
I'm actually fine with all the projections that finance has given. 00:49:54
All of my. 00:49:58
Proposed cuts are operational in nature. 00:49:59
So it doesn't. 00:50:01
Get rid of any of our capital expenses. 00:50:02
Doesn't get rid of any of our. 00:50:04
Capital projects. 00:50:06
But it does take away ongoing expenses that we could then. 00:50:08
You know, property taxes are great for ongoing expenses because it's a stable source of revenue in the state. We're guaranteed 00:50:12
those property taxes to help us with those ongoing expenses that we know. 00:50:17
Are going to occur from year to year. 00:50:22
And so I've I've only in all three of my budget proposals. 00:50:24
Touched those ongoing expenses that I feel like we could. 00:50:28
Survive without in some cases and I think in option 3, which is the. 00:50:34
You know the 16%. 00:50:38
Property tax cut? We could actually. 00:50:40
Thrive very well with with that proposed budget. 00:50:42
I know there's a few things that. 00:50:45
You know, we've talked about in the past lobbyists and. 00:50:48
And things that. 00:50:51
We could cut. 00:50:52
I would love to be able to have that conversation. 00:50:53
Because that my option three budget does include those types of cuts. 00:50:56
And. 00:51:00
I do think we would have a lot of consensus if I could. 00:51:02
Have some time to. 00:51:04
Just sit down with each of you guys and. 00:51:05
Review each of those cuts we could. 00:51:07
Kind of horse trade and. 00:51:09
And a little bit of surprise, when did we start this budget process? Was it months or months ago? 00:51:10
Yeah, I don't think it was started in April and I have AI have a number for you. So total reductions across all departments, we've 00:51:16
made $836,766. 00:51:22
And so in cuts. 00:51:29
And if we would have continued if. 00:51:31
The Vineyard City government would have continued as it was in January. 00:51:33
There, you would have no choice right now but to ask for another tax increase. 00:51:38
Yeah, that's and. 00:51:42
And the other thing is is. 00:51:45
Give the mayor some time to cook. 00:51:47
Like, he's done really well. You can't in six months, especially with Brian put into place, look at every single thing. 00:51:49
He's taken apart and looked at. 00:51:56
What are the biggest things? 00:51:58
And I think it's smart just to say, allow him to budget as the status quo. 00:51:59
Say, hey, it's there. If I can't cut it, we'll look through it again. 00:52:04
There's and we can always come back, but telling the voters right now. 00:52:09
This is where we're at. We believe the revenues are going to increase quite a bit. 00:52:13
But then also that's just. 00:52:18
You know, you give your wife a budget or you give your family a budget. That doesn't mean you have to go and spend it. It means 00:52:20
this is kind of where we're at right now. 00:52:23
But let's dig in. And and all of us have given those priorities where? 00:52:27
Hey, we could probably spend. 00:52:32
Less. Well, why don't we translate that into a property tax decrease then? 00:52:34
Because we could. 00:52:38
We've got until. 00:52:39
I mean, we sent the certified rate. 00:52:41
Which? 00:52:44
Also, I don't know why the governing body, we're way too far along that. 00:52:44
To go to and do it to a. 00:52:49
We have to turn taxation. 00:52:50
Truth in Texas, No, we don't need a truth in taxation to decrease. We only need it to increase. Go ahead, Brian. 00:52:53
The deadline for us to accept the certified rate was yesterday. 00:52:58
Yep, which it was accepted. 00:53:02
The county told us that. 00:53:06
If there was. 00:53:09
No action taken. 00:53:10
Then our only option is to go with the certified rate, which did go down from the previous year, but we couldn't go lower than 00:53:13
that. We can. 00:53:16
Lower than the certified rate. 00:53:21
Not unless we took action by yesterday. 00:53:23
We can, I did e-mail the Tax Commission. 00:53:27
And they did say we can lower the rate. 00:53:30
Even after yesterday's action, but. 00:53:33
We can't raise the rate. 00:53:35
So I would, I would love to. 00:53:36
Take that time to. 00:53:38
If you would like I can just read this. 00:53:41
Statute. 00:53:45
It's it's Utah code 59. 00:53:46
Dash 2-912, subsection 1. 00:53:50
Well, and I'm seeing now that there is an exception in here, so we'll probably have to read all of that, but it says accept is 00:53:57
provided in subsection 2. The governing body of each taxing entity shall before June 22nd of each year. 00:54:03
Adopt A proposed tax rate or, if the tax rate is not more than the certified rate, a final tax rate free. 00:54:08
For the taxing entity. 00:54:14
And. 00:54:16
Report the rate and levy and submit the statement. 00:54:17
Required under another section and any other information prescribed by. 00:54:21
Rules of the Commission for the preparation, review and certification of the tax rate to the county auditor of the county in which 00:54:25
the taxing entity is located. And then here's that exception. 00:54:30
Into subsection 2, it says if the governing body of a taxing entity. 00:54:36
Does not receive the taxing entities certified tax rate at least seven days prior. 00:54:40
To the date described in subsection one, which I think is June 22nd. 00:54:46
The governing body of the taxi entity shall no later than 14 days after receiving the certified tax rate from the county auditor. 00:54:51
Adopt A proposed tax rate or if the tax rate is not more than the certified rate. 00:54:59
A final tax rate for the taxing entity and comply with the requirements of. 00:55:04
This the previous subsection. 00:55:08
So I mean, that's that's a little complicated to breakdown. 00:55:11
I'm just going off what the county auditor's office told us. 00:55:15
Which was that? 00:55:20
If you take. 00:55:22
If you're. 00:55:23
Governing body takes no action by June 22nd. Then your only option is to go with the certified tax rate which. 00:55:24
Is. 00:55:31
I will point out it is lower than it was last year, but we can't go lower than that and we certainly couldn't go higher without 00:55:32
going through truth and taxation. So certain. I'm just telling you what. 00:55:38
What that office? 00:55:43
Told us the guidance they gave us. 00:55:45
Thank you. Let me, I think it would be helpful for me to weigh in at this point and kind of just tell you where my head's at with 00:55:47
this whole budget. 00:55:50
The city and the public, if if you haven't learned by now, I'm pretty measured guy. 00:55:54
I just am. That's just my personality. 00:56:01
And sorry, let me scoot forward. Didn't we scoop forward? Is that better, John? OK, I'm I'm pretty measured and. 00:56:03
I think that. 00:56:10
This budget. 00:56:13
This budget proposal, it does a couple of key things. It brings down a lot of department spending and. 00:56:14
And I'm happy to. 00:56:21
To explore if. 00:56:23
If council would like to make deeper cuts, it's. 00:56:24
It's your prerogative. 00:56:27
Absolutely. And I I support you in that, but at the same time. 00:56:31
I think that when. 00:56:35
In order to any organization. 00:56:39
To get it to the final destination, I've always felt it's better to make incremental steps. 00:56:42
Bit by bit. 00:56:48
Than big. 00:56:49
Massive. 00:56:51
Cuts. 00:56:52
And I think that the citizenry. 00:56:54
There's just a lot that goes into it. 00:56:59
And again, I'm happy to scrub it and. 00:57:01
Go deeper. 00:57:04
Whatever you'd like, but I think that this budget really represents a ton of effort by staff. 00:57:07
I mean. 00:57:12
Every most every department has come down, you know, police and fire. How many? 00:57:12
So we're adding firefighters, we're adding budget to the police. 00:57:18
Dad's office gone up, a couple other ones that are essential services have gone up. 00:57:22
And I think that. 00:57:26
The other thing that's important to recognize, too, is our city's growing. 00:57:28
And as you run an organization, one of the. 00:57:32
Key points I like to always say is are we scaling efficiently? 00:57:35
And. 00:57:39
And how I view that is OK, so we're at 20,000. 00:57:40
Let's just call it 20,000 residents in the city right now. 00:57:44
The next thousand that come in, are we going to charge? 00:57:47
More for them or is it going to charge less or that is going to stay the same this budget in my opinion? 00:57:50
Really shows that. 00:57:56
And. 00:57:58
The end destination definitely is. 00:58:00
Really good property tax cuts. 00:58:03
And I'm happy if we if if Council feels that we want to. 00:58:06
Really, just hammer that. 00:58:09
This year. 00:58:11
I'm happy to do whatever. 00:58:12
Council would like to do on that. 00:58:14
But I. 00:58:16
I think that just a more measured. 00:58:17
Approach. 00:58:19
It's just always better. 00:58:21
In this and I think that. 00:58:22
Getting our new city manager time to really dig into it, Evan. 00:58:25
Get him another. 00:58:29
Year under the belt. And that's not to say that we can't. 00:58:30
As the year goes along, come back and pass amendments as they go and we find savings. That's not the case. We've just got to 00:58:32
recognize the kind of the reality of the situation where the city was going. 00:58:38
And where we're. 00:58:43
Charting the new course and it's just going to take a minute to bake. 00:58:44
But if we want to turn up the heat. 00:58:49
And make it bake faster. 00:58:51
I'm I'm open. 00:58:53
Open to that. 00:58:54
That's great. Could I clarify a couple things? 00:58:55
I did. I did. Well, we did start the budget process a while ago. 00:58:59
As you guys know, you're working on those documents. 00:59:02
I did get these documents this weekend, so I apologize for. 00:59:04
For putting this together. 00:59:08
In an actual. 00:59:10
Actionable form. 00:59:12
Relatively quickly. 00:59:13
I do think we still. 00:59:15
Do you have time? I don't think we should. 00:59:16
You know, give up on trying to. 00:59:20
Reduce the actual property task is especially because. 00:59:24
And my perspective is probably a little different than. 00:59:27
Than you guys as well because. 00:59:29
I know I only got. 00:59:31
Two years left of this term. So this is this is literally the only budget. 00:59:32
Where I will pass it and also be here for the full year of implementation. 00:59:36
Parker is in the same boat as me on that. 00:59:40
At least guaranteed. I mean, we'll see what the future holds. 00:59:42
And because of that, I would love to be able to. 00:59:46
Know that I. 00:59:48
Can take full ownership of this budget, not only in the passage of it, but throughout. 00:59:50
The entire process. 00:59:53
And so if they're. 00:59:55
You know our changes that need to be made throughout the year. 00:59:57
We can talk about that, but. 00:59:59
It would be amazing to. 01:00:01
Say you know what? 01:00:03
I'm not just gonna pass a budget with reduced property taxes and say OK, in six months, some other council is gonna have to deal 01:00:04
with it halfway through the year when we're out of money. 01:00:08
This is really. 01:00:11
A a budget that I can. 01:00:13
Feel comfortable about taking that full ownership of. 01:00:15
And. 01:00:18
Kind of fully embrace and say. 01:00:19
Yes, I'm confident that. 01:00:21
This will work. 01:00:23
I know exactly how it's going to work. 01:00:24
I know that. 01:00:26
This isn't going to. 01:00:27
Substantially reduce services, at least in option 3. 01:00:28
And that we can make that work. So I would love to. 01:00:33
To try this year given that I do. 01:00:36
Appreciate, you know, the measured approach and when you have a couple more years on the council, you've got that liberty. So 01:00:39
yeah. 01:00:42
So I just wanted to say I really appreciate the efforts gone into. 01:00:45
Preparing this budget and all the efforts. 01:00:49
I mean, hundreds of hours have gone into it just with staff, but also elected officials. And it's really. 01:00:52
Speaks to to addressing the many objectives we had when we came in. 01:00:57
So I'm going to say that and I appreciate that the. 01:01:01
Reduction is a great. 01:01:03
I'm however there was 1 project I think that we do need. 01:01:05
To look at possibly adding back in, there's a small one. 01:01:09
There was a promise made to the original. 01:01:12
Residents of Vineyard long ago that they would be able to. 01:01:15
Remain on a. 01:01:19
Country Rd. Kind of a setting over on Holloway Rd. 01:01:20
Through the course of the next took. 01:01:24
Two decades that their Rd. got turned into a. 01:01:25
An arterial not not very fault of theirs because the city failed to address. 01:01:28
Transportation needs to go around it. 01:01:33
And. 01:01:35
Complicated the only other arterial that was available so. 01:01:36
They were promised that once the connection was made from 400 S or to Main Street so that we have a complete. 01:01:40
Circuit available to them that. 01:01:46
Holdaway Rd. the only neighborhood by the way this not protected as an enclave. 01:01:48
Or that doesn't it also only that has a through St. that allows people to go straight through without any other obstruction. 01:01:52
The only St. that was kept without, you know, without. 01:02:01
Sidewalks because that was that was the intent. It was supposed to be a country Rd. We still have rural mailboxes we don't have. 01:02:03
So it's because of that we want to keep the promise to them and then. 01:02:09
And the idea was that we would help convert Wholeway Rd. into a. 01:02:13
Bicycle Blvd. which would allow it to be an extension of the sports park that's nearby, allow for The Walking and running and 01:02:17
bicycling that we see there all the time anyway. 01:02:22
And make it a lot safer for the people who are there. 01:02:27
And also reduce traffic to the normal amount you'd expect in a neighborhood. 01:02:30
As opposed to this thoroughfare. 01:02:35
That links. 01:02:37
That the north and the South ends of our city. 01:02:38
So now the connection is made-up for the South. I would like to see that we add back in that $25,000. 01:02:40
It's a very small amount. 01:02:46
The 1%? 01:02:47
You know, the capital budget, whatever. 01:02:48
And just add a backup so we can do a study there to be able to make that happen. 01:02:51
We think it can be done with the. 01:02:56
You know, very inexpensively and we'll certainly try not to use that budget and turn back in the rest. 01:02:58
But I think that's something we need to do this year. 01:03:02
Until that promise to our our original residence. 01:03:05
Council, how do we feel about that? 01:03:08
I support it, Yeah, yeah. 01:03:10
I have a question in the seam. 01:03:11
Do you know how far $800,000 would go? 01:03:16
Towards that road. 01:03:18
Towards which Rd. 01:03:22
Towards a plan for not not a plan, but like actual implementation of a plan. 01:03:22
If you had to just take a rough estimate of maybe. 01:03:27
Just like adding sidewalks to hold the way Rd. for example, $800,000 yeah. 01:03:30
We're not talking about that. We're talking about simply. 01:03:34
Drawing, you know, it's just a question. OK, that's fine, but that's not what this plan entails. Just so we not talk about the 01:03:36
plan. 01:03:39
The plan is simply to create. 01:03:42
On the existing footprint. 01:03:44
A walking biking trail as well as traffic planes. 01:03:47
So let me see just. 01:03:50
Roth guess it's. 01:03:53
I mean, we wouldn't be redoing utilities on that. So that would be philosophical sidewalks. 01:03:56
I think 800,000 you get the. 01:04:01
I mean, you would look at doing you could. 01:04:05
Potentially do a full complete St. A complete street is a road with. 01:04:08
Like a vehicle. 01:04:14
Bike facilities and trail access typically. 01:04:16
On that, as long as the alignment doesn't change. 01:04:19
And short. 01:04:22
I have a. 01:04:24
Love to pitch? 01:04:27
So my my third option budget the one with the. 01:04:29
A smallest amount of cuts that. 01:04:32
Doesn't get rid of the library or. 01:04:33
The entire special defense team. 01:04:35
Team. 01:04:37
Reduces property taxes by 876,000. 01:04:39
I would even be supportive of putting a portion of that towards not only just a plan, but also. 01:04:44
Let's start a fun for implementation. 01:04:49
And if we could. 01:04:52
Take some time to look at that, see if you agree with some of the cuts I propose. 01:04:53
We could even. 01:04:57
See if we could get some of those things done because. 01:04:59
Well, this one year we might not be able to raise. 01:05:01
Or lower property taxes, but if we use it on a capital project? 01:05:04
Then we won't have additional ongoing expenses that we could then lower the property tax. The citizens on this street followed the 01:05:07
the traffic. 01:05:10
Calming procedure city put in place. 01:05:14
They got a petition where over 85% of the people there that signed an affirmative that they wanted to make this change and that 01:05:17
they did not. And they stated they did not want a change to the sidewalk to the profile at all. They don't want that. They simply 01:05:24
want their country Rd. back. They were promised initially and they also and they're willing to do it by by modernizing enough to 01:05:30
be able to make sure that we mark a lane for, for active transportation to take place. 01:05:37
That's that was the important part of this, that we simply draw. 01:05:44
Or paint new lines on a road. We're talking. 01:05:47
You know, frankly, if we went out and just measured it ourselves, it would cost us, what, a couple grand for paint? 01:05:50
Right. Yeah. 01:05:54
I'm gonna. 01:05:56
You don't need to. I don't think we need to do a survey or anything else. I know. I'm sorry, city staff. 01:05:57
I don't think we need a survey because because the road is already there, the curb lines are already there. 01:06:03
The the borders are what they are. 01:06:07
OK, let's just do it. 01:06:10
Yep, all right. 01:06:11
Jacob Wood, do you have any comments you'd like to make on on the 8.2? 01:06:12
I'm comfort, I'm comfortable moving forward with this. I appreciate staff working hard on it. I'm OK if. 01:06:17
Adding David Lara's. 01:06:22
Project and. 01:06:24
Yeah. Good work guys. Thank you. 01:06:25
OK, I'm I make a motion to approve. 01:06:27
Approve the final 2020 six 2027 budget with the amendment. 01:06:31
That Councilman Laray of the $25,000 for the. 01:06:37
Holdaway Rd. 01:06:41
Bike Blvd. 01:06:42
As the budget has been presented by staff. 01:06:44
OK, do I have a second? Second. 01:06:47
OK. We will do this by roll call. We'll start with Jake I, Jacob Wood. 01:06:49
Hi, David, Larae, hi. 01:06:54
And Ezra? 01:06:56
No. OK. Thank you. 01:06:57
All right, passes. OK, we're going to jump now to 8.3. 01:06:59
Approve the fee waiver for the Latino special event. 01:07:04
9 uh. 01:07:07
1926 Brian, are you still here? 01:07:08
Yeah, do you? 01:07:12
You want to come up and explain that real quick? 01:07:13
We're gonna know. 01:07:15
I want to know if Uruguay is going to be represented in this Latino party. 01:07:16
It's a good question. 01:07:20
OK. 01:07:23
OK. 01:07:27
Just to give a brief recap on this. 01:07:29
There is. 01:07:33
An applicant has requested that. 01:07:35
We allow for a Latino festival. 01:07:38
At Vineyard Grove Park on Saturday, September 19th. 01:07:42
This group did the same event three years ago. 01:07:46
And they had about 2500. 01:07:49
Attendees, It was a very popular event. 01:07:52
And so they'd like to come back and and do it again. 01:07:56
It would run from approximately 12:30 until 9:00 PM. 01:08:01
So they would have a number of. 01:08:06
Dance performances. They'll have food, they'll have music. 01:08:10
About 20 vendors, 5 food trucks. 01:08:14
They'll have a stage. 01:08:17
They'll have 4. 01:08:20
Portable toilets. 01:08:22
And they'd like to use the. 01:08:26
Grove Park Field. 01:08:29
And with this event. 01:08:32
Because it is free to the public, they requested for a fee waiver. 01:08:34
So we did an analysis on what that cost would be and just to break that down. 01:08:40
For you really quick. 01:08:45
Small pavilion, $40. 01:08:48
Large Pavilion 75. 01:08:50
Special event. 01:08:52
Permit it would be $100. 01:08:54
And then the field rental is the biggest cost. That one comes at just over 2500. 01:08:56
Just because we charge $60.00 an hour per field. 01:09:04
And we have 3 fields at Grove Park and that would be. 01:09:08
From 8:00 AM. 01:09:10
10:00 PM from. 01:09:12
Set up all the way until to clean up so. 01:09:13
And then a $300 deposit. So in total it would be waiving 3035 dollars. 01:09:16
So just wanted to. 01:09:23
Pitch that to you as. 01:09:25
Mayor and City Council and was there anything else you wanted to add to that? 01:09:27
Maybe I can't share a little bit about. Yeah, sure. Please come on up. 01:09:31
So my name is Denisa Valdivieso. I have lived in this community maybe like 5 years, maybe 6. 01:09:34
And I do the event with my sister. She also is being your city resident we've been involved in. 01:09:41
Bringing cultural experiences to the state of Utah for maybe 15 years. 01:09:47
Rehab partnered up with Thanksgiving Point. 01:09:51
We do their Day of the Dead event at the Shasta River Woods for 10 years now. 01:09:54
And just being residents of the city, you know, we feel like. 01:09:59
I don't know, almost kind of like. 01:10:02
We have the passion behind it obviously, and we understand in part importance of. 01:10:04
Inclusion and bringing the community together and while we're sharing our culture with the community, you know, just creating that 01:10:08
sense of. 01:10:11
You know, there's so many, there's such a. 01:10:14
Big diversity in the state of Utah and. 01:10:16
And for us, it's just an opportunity for us to just. 01:10:19
You know, not just share one specific culture, but there's so many countries that are represented even within the. 01:10:22
The city of Bend, Your city. 01:10:28
And so three years ago when we did it, we felt it was like a great success. 01:10:29
There were so many people that came out and not only did they get to see, you know, that performances, they got to try the food. 01:10:33
But but fully like, you know, like live that experience. And at the end of the day, that's that's what we want to bring again this 01:10:40
year. We just want to bring the experience for the city of India. 01:10:44
And. 01:10:49
Yeah. You know, we, we just, if there was a possibility where we could. 01:10:50
Get that fee waived. That was kind of like the thing that hold us back the last two years. 01:10:54
Because we honestly, when we put these events. 01:10:58
We really. 01:11:01
Don't make any money out of them. It's something that we're very passionate about. 01:11:02
With my sisters and. 01:11:06
Just any support that we could get to bring this forward would be great. 01:11:08
Yeah, awesome. How many people would you expect to attend? 01:11:12
Well, we're hoping maybe around the same amount. 01:11:16
3000 we were counting about 3000 based on the AI. 01:11:19
Like phone count? 01:11:24
Yeah, about 2500 came last time. 01:11:26
Well, we were told 3000, but maybe 25133 thousand. OK, yeah, that's awesome. So around there. So if we if this year we could get 01:11:28
about. 01:11:33
5000 people or 4. 01:11:37
Four additional porta potties, enough to handle that. 01:11:39
I mean, we are going to be applying for a. 01:11:42
Mass. 01:11:46
Gathering permit and. 01:11:49
We are going to be responsible for paying for that poor bodies, Washington stations and the deputies. 01:11:50
For the day. 01:11:56
Will there be anything sold here at all? 01:11:58
Yeah. So we are going to be having like. 01:12:01
Foot experiences like from all countries. 01:12:05
Last year like. 01:12:08
Last time we had it, I think we had food from over. 01:12:09
10 different countries. 01:12:12
And we are also going to allow spaces for vendors. So even if any like. 01:12:13
Businesses here in in Vineyard City wanted to come out and set up and interact with the community. We will have that too. So if 01:12:18
you get a fee or any income from any of those, we do. 01:12:23
And so there is. 01:12:28
Specific fees to every single one of the vendors and I can share that with you like for. 01:12:30
Just regular vendors that have like businesses that. 01:12:35
Maybe services or they sell something. 01:12:38
It's about $100. 01:12:40
Per vendor and for food vendors is about 2:50 to $300. 01:12:42
So roughly how much would you expect to get in those fees? 01:12:47
I can tell you what we did last time. I think we gather about like. 01:12:50
6 grand. 01:12:58
Between all of those things and we had a sponsor too. 01:12:59
And with that we, we do cover production, we cover obviously insurance, whatever else fees that we have to cover. 01:13:02
We also try to compensate some of the groups that come from like. 01:13:09
Salt Lake County or other places. 01:13:13
Go ahead. Any questions for Brian or? 01:13:16
What we want to then consider the possibility of weight of partial wavering of fees or just just all waiver. 01:13:19
My question is, is could? 01:13:27
Our social media. 01:13:29
Support you early to see if there's other Latinos in within. 01:13:31
Vineyard that would like to participate and. 01:13:36
Yeah. I mean, we're open to any collaboration. You didn't do that last year though, right? Or haven't worked. We had. We didn't do 01:13:39
it last two years because it's just kind of your thing. Yeah, we didn't do the last two years. We've been your city. I mean, we do 01:13:43
other things. 01:13:47
With other like. 01:13:52
There they're dead with the shelves of river woods and different things, but. 01:13:54
Not anything within your city. I think doing a waiver would be. 01:13:57
Fantastic if you're open to. 01:14:01
Working with David Kyle and our social media team to saying. 01:14:03
Come get involved in your if you guys want to play, get in contact with you, learn about it. 01:14:07
Because then it's more of a city effort to support the different minority groups, and I think that was our initial intention the 01:14:12
first year. 01:14:15
And in fact, we call that Vindir Latin Day. 01:14:19
Days and then they had us take out the Finger City because they didn't want to think that it was like. 01:14:22
Run by the city. 01:14:28
I don't know, but that's the kind of thing that we want to support though is all different cultures, I mean. 01:14:29
My family's a split Latino. I just got back from Uruguay today. That's awesome. I didn't shave, so I've been down there for. 01:14:34
And yeah, no, but we would love that. I mean, right, Just so you know, it goes both ways too. We run a community called Utah 01:14:41
Latina and Mama Connect. And we were here at the Vineyard days and we love them. And, and I even told Teresa, I think I talked to 01:14:47
Kyle too, and we told them if you guys ever need anything promoting anything with the city. 01:14:54
Like you can just tag us and we'll repost in any of our platforms. 01:15:00
Yeah, that was my first request was I have. I would love to do a. 01:15:04
Full waiver form if we can just push it within our social media to say hey this is. 01:15:07
A city thing and then #2. 01:15:13
To have our sheriff's there. 01:15:14
The Latino community needs to. 01:15:16
Have strength with. 01:15:18
Law enforcement building relationships with them, trust within them. 01:15:20
And I would love to hear if you'd be willing to do it a table or. 01:15:24
Or build relationships. You do that with Vineyard days, you know, I think. 01:15:27
Not probably not as big a thing, but something small of. 01:15:30
You know, yeah, I believe last year, last time you guys did it, we were involved. So anything, any event of this size, we 01:15:34
generally I. 01:15:38
Look at it and see what the plan is and say OK, we're going to. 01:15:41
X amount of deputies to cover security and help with parking and those types of things so we'll. 01:15:44
We would have a presence there. Cool. 01:15:48
Yeah, No, we would love to have you guys. 01:15:50
Come back again. Thank you. Maybe just one other thing I'll add to is they've been great to work with the city. 01:15:52
Up to this point, umm, uh. 01:15:59
They actually are planning to help with the Buapalooza event. 01:16:01
They'll have a. 01:16:05
A portion with that and then our city manager has mentioned that. 01:16:07
They've just been a very reputable. 01:16:11
Group to work with. 01:16:13
Awesome. If that helps in any regard, I. 01:16:16
Staff does recommend. 01:16:18
The waiver, but of course up to OK. 01:16:20
You guys, I would just say thank you for I mean $6000 is not a lot of money to put on this effort and it's a lot of love and. 01:16:23
Just similar to the library or the heritage days. Thanks for. 01:16:29
Organizing and putting so much love into. 01:16:32
Thank you. 01:16:35
I appreciate that. 01:16:35
That's cool. OK, awesome. Thank you. 01:16:37
All right, Council, I will. 01:16:39
Let's vote on this. 01:16:41
Entertain a motion. 01:16:44
On 8.3. 01:16:45
Do we have a copy of the? 01:16:47
The form. 01:16:48
It was there a form that they filled out? 01:16:50
We did fill out a form and you guys should have it. Yeah, yeah. 01:16:52
It's not the packet. 01:16:59
It's not in the packet. 01:17:00
I can make a motion. 01:17:04
I'm go ahead, I move to approve. 01:17:06
The fee waiver for the Latino Festival. 01:17:10
8.3. 01:17:13
With the. 01:17:15
Can I put a caveat that? 01:17:16
I don't think it's a bad thing to include Vineyard City's name in it. 01:17:18
And support it in a way like we just created the nonprofit. 01:17:21
Of being able to. 01:17:26
When citizens come to do that. So I would love to have David Kyle work with sure to say if they would love to, because that's a 01:17:29
draw. It's a draw brings people in like OK, do we have a second on the motion to approve? 01:17:35
I'll second that. 01:17:42
All in favor. 01:17:43
Aye, aye. 01:17:44
Aye, any opposed? 01:17:46
OK, sorry. I just want a second if I yeah, no. 01:17:49
If I can, but yeah. 01:17:52
I think he's got it right here. I just want to. 01:17:53
Yeah. 01:17:58
Had passed. That's OK. 01:17:59
So Jake, Jake and I'll support. Yes. OK, awesome. Thank you. Thank you so much. 8.3 passes. 01:18:08
Yeah, I can share it. 01:18:15
Thank you so much. 01:18:16
Already, guys, should we do it? Let's do a 5 minute, do a 5 minute break, do the RDA or do you want us to jump into the RDA? 01:18:18
Just jumping? Should we jump in? 01:18:24
OK, no one needs to run and grab a Mountain Dew. 01:18:26
I got 3 dudes in me already, 3 mountain dews deep. 01:18:32
OK, 30 hours drive or flying, I'm tired. 01:18:36
All right, we're going to open up the RDA meeting. It is June 23rd, 2026. 01:18:41
What time is it 7711? 01:18:46
Look at that. 01:18:48
1st order of business, we have a public hearing for the final fiscal year. 01:18:51
Budget 20262027. 01:18:54
So I'm going to open it up up a public hearing for the RDA fiscal year 20262027 budget. 01:18:57
If you wish to speak on that. 01:19:03
Come on up. 01:19:05
Love to hear from you. 01:19:06
OK, see no comments. We are going to. 01:19:12
And close the public. 01:19:16
Hearing for the RDA budget. 01:19:18
We ought to keep one consent Item 3.1 Approve of the June 9th, 2026 RDA meeting minutes. 01:19:21
Can I get a motion? 01:19:29
On that consent item. 01:19:31
Move. Yeah, go ahead. So move. So moved. Yeah, second. 01:19:32
OK. Second, all right, all in favor. 01:19:35
Aye, OK. 01:19:37
Number 3.1 passes. All right, let's jump into the business items 4.1 approve resolution RDA 2026-3. 01:19:40
For the RDA budget for this upcoming fiscal year. 01:19:48
Council, would you like to have? 01:19:52
Any questions or debate? 01:19:54
On uh. 01:19:56
This business item 4.1 I would love to debate. I have some. 01:19:57
Cuts in here as well, but. 01:20:01
I'd like to see what's on. 01:20:03
Which items are on the budget for development and so forth, and what our obligations will be? 01:20:05
OK, not sure. 01:20:10
Sounds great. 01:20:11
We have Josh here to Josh is here. 01:20:13
Want to kind of walk us through that? Does everyone have a copy of that? 01:20:16
No, I don't know if Evan has. 01:20:20
Anything. 01:20:24
Numbers wise or schedule if he wants to show. 01:20:25
But yeah, you saw the capital projects that was. 01:20:28
Presented earlier. 01:20:32
That's kind of the main. 01:20:35
The main part where there's variation otherwise. 01:20:37
The biggest things here is just our bond payments every year. 01:20:40
And then our tax increment finance reimbursements? 01:20:45
I mean the revenues here, one thing to think about on the revenues. 01:20:51
So this projection for revenue? 01:20:54
Assumes triggering event for this year. 01:20:58
So we do have a number of parcels that are ripe for triggering this year. 01:21:01
And it's important to trigger them because it'll net against new growth. 01:21:06
You want to be cautious about taking new growth if it's in the RDA zone because that eventual. 01:21:10
New growth will be taken out. 01:21:15
Yeah, of the base. 01:21:17
When it's triggered in the future, so as there's a lot of new growth happening right now in the downtown, you want to make sure 01:21:19
you're triggering other areas that are. 01:21:24
Ready to trigger now and that will net against that new growth because the downtown. 01:21:28
Is developing now, but won't be triggered now. It'll be triggered in a couple of years. 01:21:32
So that new growth that's happening right now could be potentially credited to the cities. 01:21:37
Taxable base now. 01:21:42
To just be deducted later, which creates that tax. Are those the parcels that you mentioned earlier last time you're here? Yes. 01:21:45
Yep, yeah, and and I went through the entire. 01:21:51
List of. 01:21:55
All parcels in the city and I've got. 01:21:56
You know some data I could share about. 01:21:58
Basically, how much? 01:22:01
Acreage is in the RDA zone versus not kind of what the values are. 01:22:03
And kind of the property value per acre of different areas. It's pretty fascinating to look at it and look at the trends. 01:22:08
But the big take away is that. 01:22:15
The parcels that are already developed, where there are improvements right now that are being assessed. 01:22:18
This tax year. 01:22:24
You want to trigger those parcels now. 01:22:26
And then? 01:22:29
We would not trigger. 01:22:31
The parcels that are not fully developed, so like a vacant lot that's been subdivided but no improvement, I wouldn't recommend 01:22:33
triggering that. Now you can trigger that next year once an improvements been. 01:22:38
Been built. 01:22:43
So do these numbers here in the in the budget that was presented a little bit ago. 01:22:44
For the Redevelopment Agency. 01:22:47
Do those include your recommended parcels for triggering? Yeah. So this revenue amount would include the recommendation to trigger 01:22:49
though that? 01:22:54
Collection of parcels that we talked about previously and so this income is based upon that. 01:22:58
Yep, yeah. So if you don't trigger. 01:23:03
Then, then it'll be somewhere between what we actually received this year and that amount. It'll, it'll be slightly more than what 01:23:05
we received this year, but it won't be the 15,000,000. It'll be more like the 13 million. 01:23:10
OK, great. 01:23:19
All right, so. 01:23:21
And the admin fee, we characterize that as a revenue, but that's. 01:23:23
Part of the property tax increment. You can add those together to get the total increment. 01:23:27
The way we've characterized it here. 01:23:31
Because it's kind of a pass through where we have this allocation of 4 1/2% for admin. 01:23:34
That just goes. 01:23:38
You know, into the general fund essentially to pay for overhead and administrative costs of the RDA. 01:23:40
To the city. 01:23:46
So that's the revenue side. 01:23:50
On the expense side? 01:23:52
Again, tax increment finances is the is a big one that's our. 01:23:54
You know, 5 to 6 contracted payments that we make. 01:23:58
To the developers for reimbursement of infrastructure. 01:24:02
We've been through those in the work session where we went through each of the contracts. 01:24:06
Those are the annual ones that are in repayment right now for reimbursement. 01:24:10
In capital expense, keep in mind in that 18,000,000, that's what Evan went through earlier when we looked at the capital projects. 01:24:14
List for RDA. 01:24:21
A lot of that money that's in. 01:24:23
Capital expense. 01:24:25
Is also related to additional other grants, so it's not. 01:24:27
Tax increment revenues. 01:24:31
But sometimes there's like the rail removal. 01:24:33
That's a state and federal funding source. There's the park, that's TRCC revenue. So I'm just. 01:24:36
Sort of keep in mind that in the capital expense bucket there are segregated. 01:24:43
Projects and monies that aren't from tax increment revenue. 01:24:48
And then we've got our bond payments, both the. 01:24:51
Principal and interest is the other. 01:24:53
Big piece. And then there's that. 01:24:56
The transfer of the general fund is that for that admin fee. 01:24:57
That you mentioned rail removal, is that going into some sort of enterprise fund or something? Nothing is being done there to 01:25:00
remove tracks up there. 01:25:04
Yeah. So it's going into the RDA. 01:25:08
Fund. That's where it gets accounted. 01:25:10
But it's not, it's not saved year on year to do something with this. It's actually spent each year. 01:25:13
A portion of it is spent each year for the engineering and consulting work, but it's all all that money this is spent is dedicated 01:25:19
towards the removal of that track. So, so, so. 01:25:24
Planning or something right goes with it. 01:25:29
Yep, exactly OK. 01:25:31
Thank you for the clarification. 01:25:33
Great, that's the. 01:25:35
That's the fun. 01:25:38
Portion of the budget and that. 01:25:39
That so that schedule is what you're adopting. 01:25:40
And again, if the revenue changes, I mean this can be amended. 01:25:44
Always keep in mind of budgets of planning document. It's a forecast. 01:25:49
Each year we have to amend as we get the actual numbers. 01:25:53
So. 01:25:57
A big portion of the flex, so for example, depending on what the revenues would be, if it's in the 13 range or the 15 range. 01:26:00
The difference that that's going to make is how much. 01:26:06
Can be spent on capital projects, that's really where. 01:26:09
The flex will come. 01:26:13
Environmental remediation payments are currently within the capital expense. 01:26:14
So you know if revenues are? 01:26:19
Less than. 01:26:22
What we anticipate. 01:26:23
It's just going to mean less for certain capital projects and probably the one. 01:26:24
That has the most. 01:26:30
Flex back and forth is is ongoing environmental remediation and there's a few other projects and capital expense that. 01:26:30
Year over year. 01:26:38
You know. 01:26:40
The project didn't happen in year 1 and so the money is saved, rolled over. 01:26:41
Maybe it happens in year 2? 01:26:45
So you can kind of keep in mind some of those things as well. 01:26:47
Oh yeah. Thanks Evan for showing those. 01:26:50
That's the capital projects for the RDA fund. 01:26:52
OK, Yep, that's it. 01:26:58
I. 01:27:00
I feel good about it. 01:27:03
OK, comments. Comments from council for Evan staff. 01:27:04
I just want real quick. So roughly how much do we expect to be, I mean. 01:27:09
Point the number again. That shows me how much we expect to be paying or repaying contractors or working out there. 01:27:13
That are working under. 01:27:19
Contract with. 01:27:20
This is for environmental remediation. 01:27:22
Yeah, let's start with that. Yes. 01:27:24
So right now on the capital project. 01:27:26
Plan. Perform environmental remediation. 01:27:29
Just. 01:27:31
6,000,000 like an estimate. 01:27:32
It's budgeted 6,000,000. 01:27:34
Now it could be more, it could be less. 01:27:37
But that's that's the number that's it's just sort of a bucket, if you will, of. 01:27:41
You know, in, in the past, as we've talked to Anderson, Geneva, they're like, look, we could do. 01:27:45
We could clean up the whole site, make it totally ready for buildings. 01:27:50
You know in. 01:27:54
I don't know some some really accelerated timeline. 01:27:55
Right, five years. 01:27:57
But it would cost like $20 million a year of environmental remediation to get it ready that fast. So obviously we can't afford 01:27:59
that in terms of increment revenue. We don't have 5 million, you know. 01:28:04
5 door, we don't have $20 million a year, 60 million / 5 years as opposed to 6,000,000 across 10 years exactly. Yeah, they 01:28:10
estimate it's it's just probably in the. 01:28:15
Neighborhood of 100 million. 01:28:20
To get the. 01:28:22
East Side. 01:28:24
Ready for redevelopment and you know. 01:28:25
Streets like basically to go from what the east side looks like now. 01:28:28
To. 01:28:32
Subdivided lots, streets, all of that. 01:28:33
Ready to go? 01:28:35
Probably 100 million. 01:28:36
And. 01:28:38
Probably likely to take place over the course about the next 15 years. 01:28:39
I mean, right now we're on a trajectory of. 01:28:46
Between 3 and 5 million a year that we've spent on environmental remediation, that's probably going to continue to be the clip, 01:28:48
although they do have the ability to. 01:28:52
You know, do more than that and as we have more increment that's. 01:28:56
Probably the place where we want to put it. 01:28:59
Because that's the area that the quicker that's. 01:29:01
Something valuable. It'll create more economic activity, higher valued properties for property tax revenue, sales tax, etc etc. 01:29:04
OK. Thank you. Can I give some? 01:29:14
Easy, yeah. 01:29:16
These are so easy to cut. 01:29:18
Proposals. 01:29:20
We love easy to cut, all right? 01:29:21
Lobbyist 42,000. This is in contract services. 01:29:23
The economic development activities. 01:29:28
That would be the. 01:29:30
Kind of different organizations, they're in RDA budgets. 01:29:32
Didn't we already cut the lobbyists? 01:29:36
Nope, it's still in here. 01:29:38
As of the document I got. 01:29:39
The. 01:29:41
Right contract, yeah, cut it. 01:29:42
Great. I thought that was already budget for that. 01:29:43
Economic development activities 45,000 I'd love to get rid of that. 01:29:49
Yeah, they've already been notified they were. 01:29:52
Yeah. We got to take it out of the budget though. It's in the budget right now. I'm sorry, I thought we sent that in. 01:29:55
You can fire them, but if the budget is still there, we could do whatever we want with it, I guess, if staff could at that point. 01:29:59
So I just proposed, let's get rid of it. I thought you guys already got that. 01:30:03
It was in the RDA budget. We we said it to this. Oh, I guess. 01:30:07
There were two places. 01:30:12
You have to do on both sides, OK. 01:30:14
And I don't, I mean, the City 1 still had it in there too. So that was one of the cuts I proposed in the city budget too, just 01:30:17
getting rid of that. 01:30:20
So if we, I mean it's just going to sit in fund balance if we can just. 01:30:23
All agree. 01:30:26
So we could have. 01:30:28
Lowered property tax by at least that 42,000 but anyway. 01:30:29
45,000 economic development activities. 01:30:33
Does that workouts like $2.00 a house? 01:30:36
Was that? 01:30:38
42,000. 01:30:39
Yeah. I mean, I added it up to 16% a lot, but. 01:30:41
It could have been something. 01:30:44
And then? 01:30:47
The architecture for the downtown. 01:30:48
City facilities. 01:30:53
And the structural design. 01:30:56
That would be like another 50,000. 01:30:57
So just. 01:30:59
Reducing contracts. These are capital projects, so this would be contract services. 01:31:00
So it'd be about. 01:31:04
Hundred 200,000. 01:31:06
And those 100,000 removed already. 01:31:08
I thought that was a rarity from the Vineyard Center. 01:31:10
They're in the budget document I got so. 01:31:12
The scene do you know? 01:31:15
Chopping them, that was that we. Well, it was. 01:31:16
The document Evan sent. 01:31:18
Oh yeah, yeah. 01:31:19
Those were. 01:31:21
People held over from. 01:31:24
Last year and that was discussion. 01:31:26
I thought that if they weren't spent, they. 01:31:28
So we have to go through and say cut that. 01:31:31
You're basically your budget is saying. 01:31:34
I would love to your budget saying contract services would be like 800,000. 01:31:38
And I think the conversation here is does it have to be 800,000 because there's constituent? 01:31:42
Portions of the contract services that. 01:31:48
Add up to 800 that are unnecessary. 01:31:50
So be kind of a reduction of contract services, but. 01:31:53
Historically, I don't know that we've spent. 01:31:56
All the money in contract services and what we don't spend. 01:31:58
Ends up rolling to. 01:32:02
Other other priorities like incremental reimbursements, capital expense, etc, fully take away staff discretion to spend those 01:32:04
without an action by the governing body. 01:32:08
I agree with that. 01:32:12
I would just. 01:32:14
If there, if it wasn't spent, can we just do a? 01:32:15
Across the board. 01:32:18
From last year, we're removing all of that. 01:32:20
Because I instead of going 1 by 1 because I thought. 01:32:22
That was already done. I thought there's a lot of probably take a budget amendment at this point. 01:32:25
We've already passed the budget for now. 01:32:30
You haven't passed the budget. We're proposing the RDA budget, so. 01:32:32
Perhaps what you could do is right now can. 01:32:36
Contract services total is 800. 01:32:38
3000 and you're you're. 01:32:40
Proposing. 01:32:43
You know, upwards of $200,000. 01:32:44
Of contract services. 01:32:47
What? How much total? 01:32:48
127,000. 01:32:51
So you know. 01:32:54
Maybe to make it easy, just reduce it by. 01:32:56
123 it'll make it a round Number. 01:32:59
So then you could just. 01:33:02
Pass the budget and say contract services will be. 01:33:03
$680,000 even. 01:33:07
Sure. 01:33:10
But are we also? 01:33:11
Eliminating those line items so that it's. 01:33:12
Explicitly like the town hall, the. 01:33:15
The line items really. 01:33:18
Don't matter, aren't. 01:33:20
Part per se of the budget. The budget action is this. 01:33:21
High level schedule. 01:33:25
I see the line items are kind of made-up. 01:33:27
Largely by the executive branch. 01:33:30
Proposal as Hades with aid. OK. 01:33:31
Yeah, because I know the decision knows already to not do the City Hall and the. 01:33:34
I just didn't know that it needed to be removed. 01:33:38
OK, so just lower it by 600,000? 01:33:42
Is that by 100 and? 01:33:45
23120 down to six, 680 total. 01:33:46
OK. 01:33:51
Thank you. 01:33:52
Any other? 01:33:53
Any other discussion Council? 01:33:54
On this. 01:33:56
I'm ready to move forward. 01:33:59
OK, sounds great. 01:34:00
I will entertain a motion. 01:34:01
I move we accept the Redevelopment Agency budget that's presented with the. 01:34:04
With the initial amendment of removing the. 01:34:09
Line items. 01:34:11
For consulting services. 01:34:13
And. 01:34:16
This downtown City Hall. 01:34:19
Contract services to 680. 01:34:22
Yeah, reduce contract services 680. 01:34:24
Yeah, OK. 01:34:27
Alright, do I have a second that? 01:34:28
I second, second, All right Second by Jay Cold. 01:34:31
Roll call on this one, Jake. 01:34:35
I Jacob Wood. 01:34:37
I, David. 01:34:38
Hi, Ezra. 01:34:39
I'm gonna know. 01:34:40
I did have more cuts but. 01:34:42
I can work with you guys so I will approve it. 01:34:43
Even though I didn't get my full way, so all right. 01:34:46
If I can't discuss in the meeting, I'll just do it the motion, but we give you a lot of free campaign time earlier. 01:34:50
Motion passes. Appreciate the hours are good already. 01:34:56
OK, that is all we have for today, are we? 01:35:00
I saw on the agenda for a closed session, no. 01:35:04
No, yeah. 01:35:07
Just a carryover, OK. 01:35:10
OK. 01:35:12
OK, alrighty. 01:35:14
Pass it that is. 01:35:15
RDA meeting. 01:35:17
Adjourned. 01:35:19
Thanks guys. 01:35:20
I was just going to talk you guys after. 01:35:29
Yeah. Do you want to do that? Yeah, individually. 01:35:31
Yeah, yeah. 01:35:34
You already. 01:35:37