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MOTION: COMMISSIONER GUDMUNDSON MOTIONED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT APPLICATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL. VICE-CHAIR BRAMWELL SECONDED THE MOTION. ROLL WENT AS FOLLOWS: CHAIR BRADY, VICE-CHAIR BRAMWELL, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, COMMISSIONER BLACKBURN, AND COMMISSIONER GUDMUNDSON VOTED AYE. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 2 | |
Public Hearing, Site Plan, and Conditional Use Permit Applications- X Development is seeking approval of a conditional use permit and site plan for two drive-thru aisles and their corresponding buildings located within the Yard B Lotat1 E0 N, Vineyard, UT059. Parcel ID::037:0003. The Planning Commission will take appropriate action. MOTION: COMMISSIONER GUDMUNDSON MOTIONED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISISONER BLACKBURN SECONDED THE MOTION. ROLL WENT AS FOLLOWS: CHAIR BRADY, VICE-CHAIR BRAMWELL, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, COMMISSIONER BLACKBURN, AND COMMISSIONER GUDMUNDSON VOTED AYE. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Mr. Amaya Perez gave an overview of the application. Chair Brady called for questions. Commissioner Gudmundson wanted to see a buffer between the sidewalk and the drive-thru on the south side of the southernmost building. Karla Mata with X Development agreed to prepare some proposals to address that concern. The discussion continued about the site plan. Resident Tyler Haroldsen asked if brick area would be raised. Mr. Amaya Perez responded that it was not a requirement in the code. Ms. Mata emphasized that they wanted to keep it at grade. MOTION: COMMISSIONER GUDMUNDSON MOTIONED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISISONER JENKINS SECONDED THE MOTION. ROLL WENT AS FOLLOWS: CHAIR BRADY, VICE-CHAIR BRAMWELL, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, COMMISSIONER BLACKBURN, AND COMMISSIONER GUDMUNDSON VOTED AYE. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. MOTION: COMMISSIONER JENKINS MOTIONED TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND SITE PLAN WITH THE PRESENTED CONDITIONS. COMMISISONER BLACKBURN SECONDED THE MOTION. ROLL WENT AS FOLLOWS: CHAIR BRADY, VICE-CHAIR BRAMWELL, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, COMMISSIONER BLACKBURN, AND COMMISSIONER GUDMUNDSON VOTED AYE. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 3 | |
Site Plan Application- Vineyard Properties of Utah is seeking approval of a site plan for Mill Road Industrial Park Buildings& Located at00 N Mill Road (400 E), Vineyard, UT059.Parcel ID::474:0004. The Planning Commission will take appropriate action. Mr. Amaya Perez reviewed the site plan and explained that the applicant still needed to complete a lot line adjustment. He highlighted the gathering areas planned for the southern corners of the buildings and that% of site was open space. He was still waiting for the applicant to submit the photometric lighting plan.1 total parking spaces. All areas for pedestrians clearly demarcated. No turf or sod. Single monument sign which will be reviewed separately with a sign permit application. Staff recommended approval withconditions. Chair Brady called for questions. Jenkins asked about if there was just one entrance from Mill Road for these two buildings and the future development. Mr. Chris Kephart clarified that there would also be an entrance to the north, and eventually three entrances when00 North is developed. Commissioner Blackburn asked about semi-trucks. Gil Rand, architect with Architectural Coalition explained that there were0 feet in between the buildings for the trucks to drive in and load at the loading docks. Commissioner Blackburn asked about light industrial. Mr. Kephart responded that it would depend on the tenants. Mr. Rand stated that they were planning for a mix of uses. Mr. Brim recommended adding a condition phasing plan. Chair Brady called for a motion. MOTION: COMMISSIONER JENKINS MOTIONED TO APPROVE THE SITE PLAN WITH THE PRESENTED CONDITIONS. COMMISISONER GUDMUNDSON SECONDED THE MOTION. ROLL WENT AS FOLLOWS: CHAIR BRADY, VICE-CHAIR BRAMWELL, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, COMMISSIONER BLACKBURN, AND COMMISSIONER GUDMUNDSON VOTED AYE. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 4 | |
City Initiated Site Plan Application- Vineyard City Public Works is seeking approval of a site plan application to allow for a portable classroom office be placed within the public works yard located at2 W00 N Vineyard, Utah,059. Parcel ID::023:0017. The Planning Commission will take appropriate action. Public works director Chris Wilson explained the need for additional office space at the south side of the Public Works site. The city purchased a portable classroom that they planned to use for this purpose. It was to be moved to this location this weekend. He added that it may be there for five to ten years. He asked for questions and a discussion followed. Chair Brady called for a motion. MOTION: COMMISSIONER JENKINS MOTIONED TO APPROVE THE SITE PLAN. COMMISISONER BLACKBURN SECONDED THE MOTION. ROLL WENT AS FOLLOWS: CHAIR BRADY, VICE-CHAIR BRAMWELL, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, COMMISSIONER BLACKBURN, AND COMMISSIONER GUDMUNDSON VOTED AYE. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. | |
WORKSESSION1 Moderate Income Housing Plan (MIHP) Update within the Vineyard City General Plan – Utah State Code HB462 requires that Vineyard City update its MIHP to reflect and include at least five (5) strategies from code-9a-403 ‘General Plan Preparation’. The Commission will analyze what strategies Vineyard City is already in the process of implementing, and which new strategies must be selected and incorporated within the Moderate Income Housing element of the General Plan. Mr. Amaya Perez explained gave a brief overview of the different options with a goal to choose at least five but aimed to get seven to qualify for a grant by the Octobert deadline. Commissioners Jenkins and Blackburn asked about definitions of “moderate income.” Mr. Amaya Perez said they would continue this discussion in a work session at the next planning commission to get the input from the Commission. Mr. Brim explained that they would prepare a draft of the General Plan. Mr. Brim stated that he would do a more in-depth housing study. Chair Brady asked Mr. Brim to bring those numbers to the next meeting. TRAINING SESSION – No training session was held. COMMISSION MEMBERS’ REPORTS AND EX PARTE DISCUSSIONDISCLOSUREMr. Brim explained how this was an opportunity for the commissioners to be transparent.Mr. Amaya Perez stated that there would be a Facebook live event early next month.Mr. Brim stated that next Wednesday at00 pm there was a joint site visit with City Council, and he encouraged the Commission to attend. The public was welcome to attend as well but would need to inform the city in advance. Commissioner Blackburn added that the silos and other implements that the Heritage Commission was interested in. He suggested that the barn could rebuild with some original materials. ADJOURNMENT Chair brady adjourned the meeting. CERTIFIED CORRECT ON: September22 CERTIFIED BY:/s/CacheHancey Cache Hancey, Planner |
Welcome everybody. It is August 3rd. This is the Vineyard Planning Commission meeting. | 00:00:05 | |
We'll get right into it. Anthony will give us a Pledge of Allegiance. | 00:00:10 | |
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, | 00:00:18 | |
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. | 00:00:24 | |
Great. Thank you, Anthony. All right, right now is an open session. If you have any comments for the Commission, you can come up | 00:00:34 | |
to the microphone, state your name and make any comments either you guys have any comments? | 00:00:41 | |
Cool. All right. If not, we'll move right into the minutes review and approval. Do I have a motion on that? | 00:00:48 | |
Yeah, I make a motion to accept the minutes from July 6th. Do I have a second? Second. All in favor? Aye. All right. Moving a | 00:00:56 | |
business item 4.1 Holdroy field preliminary plat application. | 00:01:01 | |
OK, Nate, can you hear us through the Microsoft? | 00:01:29 | |
OK, perfect. All right. My name is Brian Maya Perez. I'm a city planner here in the Community Development Department. And we're | 00:01:35 | |
going to be reviewing the preliminary plat that was submitted by Ryan Bybee and Neighbor child with Cadence Homes and Good | 00:01:40 | |
Goodborough. | 00:01:45 | |
So to provide you a quick summary. | 00:01:52 | |
So I'm just going to change my slide here. | 00:01:56 | |
They're requesting a request an approval of a preliminary plat for all the way Fields development. The property will be developed | 00:02:00 | |
in accordance with the development agreement approved by City Council on July 13th, 2022. The preliminary plat proposes 295 single | 00:02:07 | |
family detached residences and was prepared in accordance with the Vineyard City Subdivision Code and Holdaway Farms Special | 00:02:13 | |
Purpose Zoning District. | 00:02:19 | |
The preliminary plot shows the general layouts of the streets, the alleys, blocks, etcetera. | 00:02:26 | |
And the overall purpose of the preliminary plat is to show the lots that are being created by the subdivision, ensure proper | 00:02:30 | |
coordination of public private St. systems and circulation, review the demand and availability of Public Utilities, parks, open | 00:02:36 | |
spaces and recreational sites, and to review the product densities. | 00:02:42 | |
The approved learning plot. | 00:02:49 | |
And development agreement. Then invest the applicant with various development rights including density, St. configurations and lot | 00:02:52 | |
layouts. | 00:02:55 | |
So I just want to give you guys a breakdown of the residential units and their proposed categories and sizes throughout the | 00:03:01 | |
project. So just as a caveat, there's no attached residential products that's being proposed with this preliminary plat. The | 00:03:09 | |
preliminary plat only proposes detached single family units. So a lot of us might be familiar with the project. | 00:03:16 | |
As we've attended the various meetings throughout the last year, estate lots, they're proposing 150 estate lots. | 00:03:24 | |
18 village lots, 127 cottage lots and a total of 295 total lots. | 00:03:32 | |
In terms of phasing? | 00:03:41 | |
Here's a map that shows the proposed phasing. The Hallway Field Subdivision will be developed in accordance with the phasing | 00:03:44 | |
schedule set forth in Exhibit D of the approved Development Agreement from that July 13th, 2022 City Council meeting. The phasing | 00:03:52 | |
is to ensure continuity and orderly development of the project, installation of infrastructure improvements, future road and | 00:03:59 | |
utility capacity needs, the availability of access to all portions of the project, and all other related considerations. | 00:04:06 | |
In terms of traffic and circulation, the preliminary plot that's been submitted labels all existing in future roadway connections | 00:04:19 | |
and the proposed names. The preliminary plot labels all private and public roads or and roads to be dedicated to the city. They | 00:04:27 | |
provided a roadways cross section on page C 13 of the preliminary package that shows the road dimensions and the profiles. | 00:04:35 | |
Let's talk about parks and open space. The plan labels are intended areas for parks, trails and open space. Here are the parks, | 00:04:47 | |
the public parks that are being proposed to be dedicated to the city. The east park on the far right is is going to be 5 acres in | 00:04:54 | |
size. The Holdaway Park on the southwest portion of the. | 00:05:01 | |
Site is also 5 acres and the bike trail park in the northwest section is 2 acres. | 00:05:09 | |
And in regards to private parts and recreational areas, there will be an age restricted clubhouse, pool and associated private | 00:05:16 | |
amenities that are just under an acre in size towards the middle of the of the project at the intersection of 400 and Main. | 00:05:24 | |
Talking about utilities and services, the applicant is labeled on the preliminary plat all the appropriate connections and | 00:05:36 | |
improvements for culinary water, sewer, storm drainage, ground drainage and electrical power. They also show several connections | 00:05:42 | |
for fire hydrants, 12 foot St. lights, 20 foot St. lights and overhead and varied power lines. The preliminary plan proposes an | 00:05:49 | |
underground storm water detention system beneath the future Holdaway Park, which is the one on the. | 00:05:56 | |
Southwest portion of the property and the permanent plot proposed to remove several concrete ditches. Previously missed irrigation | 00:06:03 | |
and irrigation of agricultural lands. | 00:06:09 | |
The applicant has labeled all existing and proposed St. trees. It's a little bit hard to see on this map, but this is Sorry. This | 00:06:16 | |
is a utility insurance that I should pump up earlier, but this is the trees and vegetation. It's not landscaping plans within | 00:06:25 | |
individual building. Building permits for each lot shall conform generally with with the landscaping being shown here. | 00:06:33 | |
Morgan, I think you should talk about this really quick. The landslide with Jacob Holdaway. Did you clarify that for the plan | 00:06:46 | |
Commission? Sherry, do you want to pull the map up? Yeah. | 00:06:51 | |
Yeah, if you just show where it's squared up on the east part, yeah, you can actually joggle between the two. So this is how the | 00:06:59 | |
neighborhood plan had it laid out. If you can see on that E park where there's kind of the the indent along 400 S, the the parcel | 00:07:08 | |
line is at an angle and as it connects to four or South. And they were kind of an awkward park layout. And so the developer. | 00:07:17 | |
Worked with Keith Holdaway, the owner of the property just to the the east of of that that park and they they did a small land | 00:07:26 | |
swap that that basically just made it a straight line. Do you want to jump to that look like the next next slide? | 00:07:34 | |
There you go there. So it shows it. | 00:07:46 | |
That's squared off. So anyway, just wanted to bring that here attention. | 00:07:49 | |
Are you able to see that? Do you have any questions about it Planning Commission? | 00:07:53 | |
Well, in the throbbing of the land, what what was it? Who gained what or who lost what? I mean, I know we straightened the line | 00:07:57 | |
out, but is it the exact same? And so there's a the same size triangle on both sides of swapped which which made it change the | 00:08:02 | |
angle of the. | 00:08:07 | |
OK, umm. | 00:08:13 | |
OK. Thank you, Morgan. | 00:08:16 | |
So next steps for the applicant is after the preliminary plat is approved, the applicant must submit a final plan application and | 00:08:20 | |
once a final plan is approved by City Council and by the Planning Commission, it may be recorded at the Utah County Recorder's | 00:08:28 | |
Office. Once the final plot is recorded at Utah County, the applicant can ban and submit for building permits. | 00:08:36 | |
And then? | 00:08:45 | |
As a special note, the public parks and the clubhouse and the humanities shall require separate site plan applications for | 00:08:47 | |
Planning Commission approval, so you guys will be seeing those in the future. | 00:08:51 | |
So the application is online via Zoom. The Planning Commission has any questions or concerns about this application. | 00:08:57 | |
I've got a couple of questions, mostly about the infrastructure going in, if you can go back to the phase map. | 00:09:08 | |
I just want to make sure that it's not just the homes, but it's also the road infrastructure that's going in in that same order. | 00:09:17 | |
It's like phase one would not connect to 400 S, only to Sleepy Ridge. Is that correct? | 00:09:24 | |
Yeah, that's correct. Phase one will connect to Main Street on the north and see the original South. | 00:09:33 | |
OK, the reason I'm asking is I think a lot of the people who. | 00:09:40 | |
Were either neutral or negative on this project. Saw one of the key benefits as a connection to 400 S. | 00:09:46 | |
You know, making another way in and out of the city. | 00:09:54 | |
So that not being part of phase one. | 00:09:59 | |
I I think that's important to at least acknowledge that, you know, there may be some people saying like, hey, why is this | 00:10:02 | |
connecting to sleepy Ridge instead of the 400 SI get it with the with the phasing plan here. But I do think that that's. | 00:10:08 | |
I was kind of expecting to see that connection in the first phase and then also have questions about the trail extension. I I | 00:10:17 | |
wasn't real clear on which phase that would come in with. | 00:10:23 | |
Are you talking about on the the lake, the lake trail? I believe that is slated for the last phase And the reason being, you know, | 00:10:31 | |
the cities preferred option would be to have a lake trail that aligns out towards the lake. We don't necessarily want a trail | 00:10:38 | |
right on the property line. We wanted it to be part of the actual Utah lake shoreline trail alignment. So out by by the lake. And | 00:10:45 | |
so the idea was to push that as far as we could. | 00:10:52 | |
Allowing us to time to work with the property owner and then we would build because the the funds the state is already appropriate | 00:11:00 | |
funds for that trail so. | 00:11:04 | |
We can work something out with the the property owner and there there are some legal disputes about the ownership. So it's kind of | 00:11:09 | |
a complex situation, but that gives us some time. | 00:11:13 | |
OK. Yeah. I just wanted clarity on that and then just to. | 00:11:19 | |
You know, record my comment that I think, I think there were expectations that one of the first infrastructure things would be a | 00:11:22 | |
connection to 400 S. | 00:11:26 | |
Right or wrong, I mean, right, Yeah, the the City Council had shared this the same concerns and they worked with the applicant. | 00:11:32 | |
They did approve the development agreement. And one of the items is that I can't remember the exact unit number, but it's about a | 00:11:40 | |
specific unit number. If the infrastructure hasn't been built, then they'll then deed the right of way to to the city. | 00:11:49 | |
Which is actually really helpful in case there there is, you know, some sort of. | 00:11:58 | |
Terrible economic thing. There's something happens to this project, but it would at least provide ownership of the right of way to | 00:12:03 | |
the city. But it's still tagged with phase two of the project. So it, it, it is in a very early phase. But yeah, no, unfortunately | 00:12:08 | |
it won't. It won't be right out of the gate. | 00:12:13 | |
And is there any what's the thinking about how long between Phase 1 and 2? | 00:12:18 | |
That'd be a good. | 00:12:24 | |
That'd be a good question for the applicant if negator, Eric or whoever's on, they explained it pretty well in the City Council. | 00:12:26 | |
They have a process that they go through. So basically faces start like a phase two would start while phase one was going so that | 00:12:32 | |
there's always an inventory houses. I don't know if they want to comment on it. | 00:12:37 | |
So yeah. | 00:12:47 | |
Morgan, do you want me to comment? Yeah, Yeah. Well, if you want to just provide a little insight on your timeline. | 00:12:48 | |
And so the objective once we get started is to not have a gap in our ability to sell homes. And and so the the processes as we | 00:12:55 | |
begin selling homes in phase one, we're watching for the pace of that process of that self process and we'll start the phase two | 00:13:02 | |
infrastructure. | 00:13:09 | |
While we're selling homes and pay amongst us that phase two homes are available. | 00:13:18 | |
After concluding, so it comes in phase one. Now having said that, as Morgan said, the phasing was this. This whole concept of | 00:13:23 | |
phasing 1 and 2 was located extensively with the City Council a few weeks ago where in if we haven't. | 00:13:31 | |
That we haven't begun the planning process after we've sold a certain number of homes in phase one and by the time we sold certain | 00:13:40 | |
other poems in phase one, we didn't have the right to ask them with that easement for that roadway to facilitate, you know, if | 00:13:47 | |
necessary, construction anyway. | 00:13:53 | |
But but as regards overall timing, I would expect that we would. | 00:14:01 | |
Being about six months together. | 00:14:07 | |
In terms of staging, phase one and Phase 2. | 00:14:12 | |
Thank you. | 00:14:17 | |
Any other questions? | 00:14:20 | |
My only concern with it is the parking on Lakeview St. | 00:14:23 | |
I'd rather not see parking there if I think if we're going to do parking, it should be on 400 S and something that you pull into | 00:14:29 | |
the way it is now in Lakeview St. | 00:14:34 | |
Kind of encourages traffic to go down like V street into. | 00:14:39 | |
The Elm subdivision. | 00:14:43 | |
Yeah, So just by East Park, that's the, that's, that's the road that's on the West side of East Park in the green. No, the the | 00:14:46 | |
East Park, the one to the right. | 00:14:52 | |
That road, are you talking about that road right there, right? Yeah. So that, that would be parking specifically for for that | 00:14:59 | |
park. We haven't designed it. So we'll go through a site plan process, but that, that, that's good to to know those types of | 00:15:05 | |
concerns. The idea was to try to utilize the right of way to accommodate some of the the parking needs for the park so that we | 00:15:10 | |
could build a park out and have basically as much open space as we can. We can, but most likely we're probably going to have to do | 00:15:16 | |
a, a more of a formal parking lot. | 00:15:22 | |
But anyway we can workout those those types of details. But thanks for noting that. OK, so that's not something that's like set in | 00:15:28 | |
stone with this. No, that'll that'll come through an official site plan process. So the parks will all go go to you for for | 00:15:35 | |
review. OK, so this is just important to note that the developer has part of the development agreement. Developer has agreed to | 00:15:41 | |
work on traffic calming along Zippendale to help reduce the. | 00:15:47 | |
Volume of cars as well as specifically about the speeds of the cars that may be utilizing different now at all. | 00:15:54 | |
It's important to know that the developer is going to be partnering with the city on that. | 00:16:00 | |
Alright. | 00:16:05 | |
And then there wasn't really details on the crossings around the roundabout. | 00:16:10 | |
Are there any plans for that or because I know it's real, there's that trail connection, I just want to make sure that there's a | 00:16:16 | |
good way to cross there, if there any. Yeah. And so in regards to the roundabouts, I mean, currently we just allocate the space in | 00:16:24 | |
the roundabouts. We're working with our active transportation consultants to help provide us some, some information on. | 00:16:32 | |
So I missed work in reviewing the plan. I missed where the roundabouts are. There's just one, right? | 00:17:11 | |
20, there are two, Sorry, yeah, there's one. They're both on 400 S. | 00:17:19 | |
One of them is at Lakeview where you would enter Lakeview and the other one is at Main St. | 00:17:25 | |
It's the Main Street for South Roundabout. You're going to do that. Possibly you're going to look at the other one. Or are you | 00:17:32 | |
doing for sure doing both roundabouts? | 00:17:36 | |
I don't know if that was in question or not. So the roundabouts that have been proposed and supported with the study that the | 00:17:41 | |
traffic engineer, Ryan Hales Engineering has provided by the developer will be around by the Main Street and Center St. which is | 00:17:48 | |
kind of there. And also the roundabout that's to the using my fingers to the east, right where the east park is right there | 00:17:56 | |
serving us because it's it's, it's halfway there. I'll say like that. | 00:18:03 | |
In terms of the studies that came back, that doesn't justify anything about that. And we believe that for this type of level of | 00:18:12 | |
traffic, you know, being more towards your residential. | 00:18:18 | |
After transportation or more progression, having roundabouts actually leads to a higher level of profitability instead of having | 00:18:26 | |
traffic signals where when pedestrian interests for a roundabout they go, they have more free ability to go versus a traffic | 00:18:32 | |
signal. | 00:18:38 | |
Where they're more is more controlled stop go as well like as well as that, however, I'm sure that you know, everything can change | 00:18:44 | |
tomorrow, which I say that very hard, like heart wave, but I think was being proposed here is actually what will be very | 00:18:51 | |
beneficial to the city. | 00:18:57 | |
I'll help out. | 00:19:05 | |
Enhanced like the. | 00:19:08 | |
The environment. The visual environment. There we go. | 00:19:10 | |
Making words out. Does that go wrong? | 00:19:15 | |
All right. Any other questions or? | 00:19:17 | |
It's not Do I have a motion? | 00:19:23 | |
I can. | 00:19:31 | |
I move to approve the preliminary application of Life Fields as requested by Brian Bybee with Cadence Homes with the proposed | 00:19:33 | |
conditions of the applicant pays any outstanding fees and makes any red line corrections and the applicant is subject to a | 00:19:39 | |
federal, state and local laws. | 00:19:45 | |
2nd. | 00:19:51 | |
All in favor. | 00:19:53 | |
Right. OK. I'm moving on to 4.2. This is a public hearing. So do I have a motion to open up a public hearing? | 00:19:55 | |
Motion to open up the public hearing second all in favor aye right. This is the for the site plan conditional use permit | 00:20:05 | |
application from X development. OK, thank you. This is still Brian city planner introducing this application. So we got the | 00:20:11 | |
applicant Carla Mata with 50 mil LLC seeking approval of the site plan and conditional use permit for two retail buildings at the | 00:20:17 | |
yard lot 3. | 00:20:23 | |
Address that 661 is 450 N to lottery will be a complementary addition to the mixed-use center of the yard. Both buildings are to | 00:20:30 | |
provide desirable amenities and services to venue city residents and visitors. The size of the site is 1.37 acres and both | 00:20:37 | |
buildings will house retail uses. The north building will house 1 tenant and then the South building will house 3 tenants. So this | 00:20:44 | |
map here gives you. | 00:20:51 | |
Some context to where this is located. | 00:20:59 | |
Here's the site plan. The property is zoned Regional Excuse Zone intends to provide commercial employment residential uses in a | 00:21:02 | |
mixed setting. The applicant is in the process of identifying potential tenants and drive throughs between the front, the | 00:21:09 | |
building's front facade and the property. The front property line triggered a conditional use permit. | 00:21:16 | |
So. | 00:21:25 | |
In terms of site planning. | 00:21:29 | |
This is my spots here. There we go. | 00:21:33 | |
I wanted to talk about the architecture of the buildings. So the architecture is a modern aesthetic consistent with the surround | 00:21:37 | |
development. The architecture features vintage wood exteriors, rib panels, tempered glazing, concrete masonry and ruminant | 00:21:44 | |
trimmings and finishings is a very nicely designed building. All colors proposed are subdued earth tones and not contrast with | 00:21:50 | |
naturally occurring colors in terms of massing. | 00:21:57 | |
Plenty of variations in building shape and configuration are being proposed. | 00:22:05 | |
The buildings themselves are relatively small in height and so that allows them to not interrupt any significant views of the | 00:22:08 | |
mountains of the lakes. Monotonous facades were avoided through ground level fenestration and recessing and projecting of Laurel | 00:22:15 | |
planes, and there's lots of variations in the roof lines. | 00:22:22 | |
Each building is proposing to provide a walkable gathering area where people can enjoy a meal. They can sit and dine and and just | 00:22:31 | |
enjoy the local amenities. | 00:22:36 | |
All elements of the facades and facades at the pedestrian level achieve a sense of human scale and create visual interest at eye | 00:22:42 | |
level. | 00:22:46 | |
In terms of circulation, the site plan integrates well with Arterial Mill Road to the West and with internal private roads to the | 00:22:50 | |
east, north and the South. The parking lot incorporates additional shared parking stalls for future entertainment uses at the | 00:22:56 | |
yard, including Top Golf to the east and Interconnected system for ADA, Americans with Disabilities Act and pedestrian circulation | 00:23:02 | |
has been provided in and around the site. | 00:23:08 | |
Modes of transportation are sufficiently and safely separated and demarcated. | 00:23:14 | |
So that means that there's safe interaction between pedestrians and vehicles whenever there's a possibility that they might | 00:23:21 | |
engage. In terms of building orientation, all the buildings have been oriented towards Mill Road and the the principal arterial | 00:23:27 | |
adjacent to this site. To further encourage the pedestrian relationship with the buildings, each building has a public entrance | 00:23:33 | |
off of Mill Rd. | 00:23:39 | |
In terms of open space and an accessible Internet, interconnected system of passive and active open spaces have been providing | 00:23:46 | |
provided. | 00:23:50 | |
The building configuration provides areas of sizable open space and spaces for public gathering. | 00:23:56 | |
In regards to parking lot lighting, all areas intended for parking shall be adequately illuminated during night hours. The parking | 00:24:03 | |
lot lighting is down lit and poles do not exceed the 20 foot height requirement. Lighting on the site will not spill over into | 00:24:07 | |
adjacent properties. | 00:24:12 | |
In regards to setbacks, all the setbacks are being met for the regional mixed-use code. So to talk a little bit more on parking, | 00:24:17 | |
all the parking aisle dimensions and parking stalls dimensions are are being met. | 00:24:24 | |
The code requires a 27 parking stalls be installed, but they have gone ahead and provided 17 additional parking stalls that will | 00:24:33 | |
be shared with the entertainment uses throughout the yard. 5.2% of the growth parking surface area isn't is dispersed into your | 00:24:39 | |
landscaping. | 00:24:44 | |
And two ADA required parking stalls have been provided and 1 van accessible ADA Parkinson has been provided in terms of parking. 3 | 00:24:51 | |
stalls were provided for the code, but they have provided required for the code, but they provided for that are the inverted youth | 00:24:58 | |
design which is what our code. | 00:25:05 | |
Calls for and it meets all the other bicycle parking codes. | 00:25:14 | |
Umm, let me see. | 00:25:19 | |
The parking lot is going to be screened from the street from Mill Rd. with a landscaping berm. So let's let's talk about | 00:25:22 | |
landscaping a little bit. The landscaping compliments the architecture. The architecture of the buildings provides the visual | 00:25:29 | |
interest and variety, provides screening elements for the drive throughs and the parking lots. It also provides the around | 00:25:35 | |
beautification and blends well with the natural landscape and highlights the building features. | 00:25:41 | |
All the plants conform with the installation standards within the Vineyard Tree and Landscape Manual. | 00:25:49 | |
And all the all the plants and plant species have been selected are drought tolerant codes for the landscaping code. Nearly 20% of | 00:25:54 | |
the site includes drought tolerant landscaping that is sensitive to a regional and local water conservation initiatives and large | 00:26:04 | |
areas of decorative rock and gravel with dispersed trees and have have been proposed they've kept sod or turf to. | 00:26:14 | |
To a bare minimum, I mean long, the Mill Rd. Park strip and. | 00:26:24 | |
They've maintained the 25 foot barrier, sorry buffer, landscaping buffer that is required for our landscaping code. They've also | 00:26:32 | |
provided a nice streetscape design. | 00:26:37 | |
All their trees are two inch caliper and we will require that all their shrubs be 5 gallon in size. There's no detention basins on | 00:26:44 | |
the site. They're going to be tapping into an underground, some water detention basin that's a part of lot 2 if I'm correct to the | 00:26:49 | |
east of the site. | 00:26:55 | |
And all signage is to be reviewed through a separate signed permit. So just wanted to quickly show you guys their landscaping plan | 00:27:02 | |
if I got too busy talking. | 00:27:07 | |
But you looked over that for a quick minute. | 00:27:16 | |
And then here they're building elevations. This is for the South building, which will house 3 tenants. | 00:27:23 | |
And this are the elevations for the north building. | 00:27:33 | |
Here's a few renderings of the North building. | 00:27:43 | |
With the accompanying dining area. | 00:27:46 | |
OK, so here are staff recommendation. Staff recommends approval of the site plan and condition use permit provide the following | 00:27:50 | |
conditions are not the applicant must complete a traffic study showing the impacts of the proposed development. That was something | 00:27:56 | |
that was required by engineering and we're hoping to receive that within the next few weeks on the applicant. All the all the | 00:28:02 | |
shrubs on the on the site must be 5 gallon. | 00:28:07 | |
Additional some that are 1 gallon and myself and the water manager would prefer that all the shrubs are 5 gallon so that will | 00:28:14 | |
require few changes to the to the to the landscaping legend. | 00:28:20 | |
And that the applicant the other conditions are that the applicant pays an outstanding fees and make any Redmond corrections and | 00:28:26 | |
the applicant subject to all federal, state and local laws. So then if you have any questions for them. | 00:28:32 | |
You guys have any questions? | 00:28:40 | |
So go ahead. OK, I was just noticing it on the. | 00:28:44 | |
Bottom. That's South. | 00:28:50 | |
The sidewalk runs right up next to the drive through Rd. | 00:28:53 | |
Umm, that like a insurance chef. | 00:29:00 | |
Safe, but you know, it doesn't feel safe, and there's someone who would be using that to walk on quite frequently. Live in the | 00:29:06 | |
neighborhood South of it. | 00:29:10 | |
I don't know 'cause I feel like the trees, I don't want to shrink the space. | 00:29:16 | |
Is there any kind of buffer there between the sidewalk and the drive through? | 00:29:24 | |
Between the on the South part of the building. Yeah, I believe so. | 00:29:28 | |
I'm sure there's a curve, I'm just wondering. Oh, maybe no. It seems like there's a landscaping burn to the South of the sidewalk | 00:29:35 | |
but not to the north. | 00:29:39 | |
Yeah. | 00:29:45 | |
So that's so. | 00:29:47 | |
Outside of the things that you brought up, that staff would like to see change that. | 00:29:51 | |
I I'm uncomfortable walking there just because people can drive. Well done. Would it be possible to do something very similar to | 00:29:56 | |
the north side where it's buffered a little bit but then comes in where you would cross the drive through lane to get into the | 00:30:01 | |
restaurant? | 00:30:05 | |
Hello. Hi, can I make a comment? Yeah, hello everybody. What's your name? Sure. My name is Carla Mata with X development. So as | 00:30:10 | |
far as that crosswalk is concerned, that's all back of house stuff. It's mostly intended for for employees that are going to have | 00:30:17 | |
to cross behind and go over to the trash enclosure, which is on the West side there. It's not really so much intended for for | 00:30:24 | |
pedestrian traffic like, you know, the the the customers and so forth. So. | 00:30:31 | |
So she's talking about. Oh, I thought you were talking about. OK, I apologize. I thought you were talking about the crosswalk | 00:30:38 | |
going to. | 00:30:42 | |
The southern building. | 00:30:45 | |
I'm pulling it up, yeah. | 00:30:50 | |
Cortana. | 00:30:53 | |
If you can. | 00:30:56 | |
So just how the drive through Rd. runs right up against gotcha and just has the curbing right there. | 00:30:59 | |
Yeah. So yeah, I'm wondering what kind of a buffer we have between the road and sidewalk other than a curve. | 00:31:06 | |
Yeah, and that's. | 00:31:14 | |
Split the difference between it 'cause it looks like you're doing shrinking up a landscaping, yeah. Or you, you put it on both | 00:31:17 | |
sides if you're at like 6 feet and you just do 3 feet in each side 'cause if it's a desert landscape with the with the drip system | 00:31:23 | |
anyway, you're not having, you know, sprayers. Would you, would you be fine with something similar to the north section? | 00:31:29 | |
Right, like comes in, yes, at that, Yeah, just like a little bit next to the drive through Rd. feels OK because I I would be | 00:31:35 | |
willing to walk on that. | 00:31:41 | |
But my, you know, my kids will be probably frequent in these places, probably on their own teenagers, you know, and so. | 00:31:48 | |
I, yeah, I just, OK, we will definitely have that discussion with the, the landscape architect and the and most the retail | 00:31:57 | |
architect and see how we can, we can shift that over a little bit. I mean, I'd hate to lose the trees too. So I'm a little torn. I | 00:32:01 | |
don't know. | 00:32:06 | |
Totally. OK, I'll see what we can do there. Yeah, I mean, from our, our goal is to try to keep trees within a minimum of 6 feet. | 00:32:12 | |
That's, that's sort of what we've been trying to do. I mean, they can survive in smaller conditions, but you know, they, it's a | 00:32:17 | |
root system, a little more space. | 00:32:22 | |
878 and a half, yeah. | 00:32:29 | |
Yeah, so maybe it sounds like a couple feet then it's like you're, are you worried just about like a tire popping over and | 00:32:32 | |
smacking someone or does it come around the corner? Yeah, yeah. So did you just give a couple more feet then? I think OK, yeah. Or | 00:32:38 | |
some kind of buffer like a 2 foot retaining wall or something? Yeah, or, or like a handrail even, I mean some, some kind of | 00:32:44 | |
barrier. | 00:32:50 | |
And pedestrians feeling like, OK, there's something between me and these cars. | 00:32:58 | |
OK. Maybe even some grasses or something like that. Yeah, yeah. | 00:33:03 | |
So depending on if you approve it, I would recommend adding a condition and you can make a condition as general as you want or as | 00:33:08 | |
specific as you want. So you if you guys want to think through kind of what that could be, you know, like the applicant will will | 00:33:15 | |
provide staff with some options of providing more, more protection to the pedestrians, whether it's moving the, you know, the | 00:33:22 | |
landscaping to that side or some other entertainer, right? Exactly. | 00:33:28 | |
Right, Yeah, I don't think I need to like a specific. | 00:33:36 | |
Yeah. Is this just for separation or do you want to do it to be for for safety reasons or just a line of demarcations? They | 00:33:41 | |
realize there's cars there, safety, not enough to stop a car, but you're looking at like a minor. | 00:33:48 | |
Just like with the with roads, we can't just like stick a bunch of. | 00:33:59 | |
Speed bumps everywhere, but we can have speed medication. | 00:34:06 | |
Step so like this would be more of a. | 00:34:10 | |
The card notices that there's plants and maybe they're going to be more careful with their car around that area between. | 00:34:13 | |
Now there's, there's rocks there placed too. Isn't that what you're showing? It's showing that's not between the sidewalk and the | 00:34:24 | |
drive through aisle. Yeah. So just right there, just be like moving the sidewalk a little bit South. And if I may, I have a | 00:34:31 | |
little, I have some language that you guys could consider. So I wrote as a condition landscaping buffer at least two to three feet | 00:34:37 | |
between the southern drive through aisle. | 00:34:43 | |
In the pedestrian walkway South of the southern building on the site shall be provided. So I don't think it needs to be two or | 00:34:50 | |
three feet if it's something more solid, so wall or even like posts with the chain or yeah, it doesn't mean to be landscaping, | 00:34:56 | |
just some division could be post with change between them or something like that. | 00:35:02 | |
But I mean, obviously the landscaping action will look better. Yeah, we'll come up with some proposals I think staff could handle. | 00:35:09 | |
Yeah. | 00:35:17 | |
I had a similar question, but it was around the architectural rendering of of the outside dining areas and I didn't see any | 00:35:25 | |
division between the dining area and and the roadway. | 00:35:32 | |
And I may have missed it. I mean go on to the next one. | 00:35:39 | |
Down right in there. | 00:35:44 | |
Is there OK and I may have missed it but I just wanted to make sure there is barriers between the outside dining and the roadways. | 00:35:49 | |
Yes. And Tyler, did you want to speak to that at all or? | 00:35:59 | |
No, I mean I there was about that separation. Yeah, in the renderings there is a fence. | 00:36:03 | |
OK. Any questions, Chris? | 00:36:11 | |
So for the outdoor dining, I know a few meetings ago we talked about this, making sure there's room to go around the dining for | 00:36:14 | |
like ADA accessibility. So that's verified. If not, any problem with wheelchairs and stuff getting around that, specifically that | 00:36:20 | |
corner in the rendering of the building where the fence is. | 00:36:26 | |
Should be that top left corner on the corner right there. Obviously we can't see what that distance is, but I suppose there's | 00:36:37 | |
enough room. | 00:36:41 | |
Yeah, that's a good concern. | 00:36:45 | |
Yeah. And I think that will come more along with the the tenant permits, correct for the as far as when they have to go through | 00:36:48 | |
their approvals for that, I'm assuming that will be addressed at that time. | 00:36:53 | |
I mean now is is when we could attach that that detail. I think the things appropriateness iPhone application is in my opinion OK. | 00:37:02 | |
Yeah. | 00:37:14 | |
Steve Hutchings, Excellent. Can you go back to the site plan? | 00:37:16 | |
So we were talking today about sorry I lost my voice the other day. If you could scroll on to the top building there, that N | 00:37:21 | |
building. | 00:37:25 | |
We were talking about moving that that crosswalk slightly down just to by just a little bit more room for Ada on that side with | 00:37:30 | |
given that that was a a plan for a outdoor dining so that that ramp just right on the right side of the screen there that could | 00:37:38 | |
come down to more feet or so just to provide enough room for that cool. So. | 00:37:46 | |
So, yeah, we're already in discussion. So thanks for that question. | 00:37:56 | |
Any other questions? | 00:38:05 | |
I don't, but we are in a public hearing, so I think we've got some. | 00:38:08 | |
Yes, my name is Donna Hurlton. I'm a resident. I noticed there's a lot of areas where like the crosswalks are that appear to be | 00:38:11 | |
brick or a different sort of material. I was wondering if those would be raised. I know a lot of the times when I'm walking in an | 00:38:18 | |
area with with a brick type of area where if it's the same level as the as the asphalt, I don't really notice any difference in | 00:38:25 | |
cars, whereas they tend to slow down more if it's it's raised up a little bit. | 00:38:31 | |
All I gotta say about that is that it's it's a. Yeah, it's a good comment. It's not expressly a requirement for the code. The code | 00:38:40 | |
simply states that a stamped or different cheating material needs to be provided. | 00:38:47 | |
So. | 00:38:56 | |
Yeah, that's just something to consider, I guess. | 00:38:57 | |
I can make another comment. So we're, we're aiming to have uniformity throughout our center. We're trying to keep it at grade. It | 00:39:01 | |
helps with the stacking and so forth. And and it's also more visually appealing as well. So we're trying to keep that at grade. | 00:39:09 | |
Who's honestly, by the way, and just in regards to speak on that, typically with those areas where you have the raised crosswalks, | 00:39:21 | |
especially with the way for them to be effective is that they're like speed tables and speed table is something that's really | 00:39:27 | |
wide. And so when cars are going over it, they're they're approaching it. Then in essence, what you can do is you can almost park | 00:39:32 | |
a car on top of it. | 00:39:38 | |
Areas like this doesn't really provide that type of. | 00:39:44 | |
Is it? It would not compliment this type of area. | 00:39:49 | |
Where you where you have cars are especially coming out of a drive through that would actually provide. | 00:39:53 | |
When there's good conflict and bad conflict, roundabouts are good conflict. Something like that would actually provide some bad | 00:40:00 | |
conflict as cars are trying to drive out. Like for example, I use a lighthearted example that when I go through a drive through, | 00:40:04 | |
one of the first things I look for is that they give me my food and I'm doing that while I'm driving out. And if I'm hitting a | 00:40:08 | |
bump I've had. | 00:40:12 | |
A different of mine. That guy. | 00:40:18 | |
Didn't was too distracted then coming out of drive through and he ended up playing his car, flipping his car over because he went | 00:40:21 | |
off off of Smokeworth on the thing but. | 00:40:26 | |
For example, it's already been built and when I ask for anything else but like for example the movie theater where you have large | 00:41:03 | |
volumes of people going through, you have a large stretch area. Something like that would be it would be a positive conflict. Or a | 00:41:08 | |
school, for example, that would be a positive conflict. | 00:41:13 | |
Thanks. Thank you. Any other public comments? | 00:41:19 | |
And if not, drive a motion to close the public hearing. | 00:41:23 | |
I move to close the public hearing second. | 00:41:28 | |
All in favor, aye? | 00:41:32 | |
All right, umm, any other questions? | 00:41:35 | |
If not, do I have a motion? | 00:41:40 | |
Yeah, Brian, could you read that I. | 00:41:43 | |
Just for the record, one more time today. | 00:41:47 | |
The two foot or barrier buffer that you drafted up, yeah. So that didn't really change it the landscaping, but we could say how | 00:41:50 | |
can we say this generally like a physical barrier or? | 00:41:57 | |
Physical barrier. | 00:42:07 | |
A landscaping buffer or a physical barrier of at least. | 00:42:11 | |
Providing 2 to 3. | 00:42:16 | |
I. | 00:42:34 | |
I. | 00:43:06 | |
As we mentioned for a general SO, a landscaping buffer or physical barrier shall be provided to protect the sidewalk on the South | 00:43:19 | |
side of the project area. | 00:43:23 | |
Sounds good so. | 00:43:28 | |
OK. Thanks for It's open enough to staff, the staff can work with that. | 00:43:30 | |
Yeah. So with that, I moved to approve the site plan and conditional use permit as requested by Carla Mata with 50 Mil LLC with | 00:43:34 | |
the four proposed conditions that we reviewed with staff and then the additional one that was just read about the barrier on the | 00:43:40 | |
South side. | 00:43:46 | |
I second the motion. | 00:43:55 | |
All in favor. | 00:43:57 | |
Aye, all right. | 00:43:58 | |
Moving on to thank you guys. Yeah, have a good one. | 00:44:01 | |
Moving on to 4.3 site plan application for the Vineyard properties of Utah. | 00:44:05 | |
Do we need to roll call on that one? | 00:44:14 | |
OK, only, only on ordinances, right? I need that. | 00:44:18 | |
You're good question. OK. So this project is the Mill Road Industrial Park Building 7 and 8. | 00:44:23 | |
The applicant, Christopher Keffer with Vineyard Properties of Utah, is requesting approval of a site plan for building 78 of the | 00:44:33 | |
future Mill Road Industrial Park. These buildings will form part of a larger 8 building industrial complex. The buildings are to | 00:44:39 | |
be located approximately at Mill Road and 1600 N. | 00:44:44 | |
The property is owned flex office, industrial, is unestablished to foster economic development and established employment centers. | 00:44:51 | |
These buildings are basically going to be warehouse and offices. And in terms of design, the buildings are relatively identical | 00:44:59 | |
with a few differentiating features and they both measure approximately or not approximately 88,560 square feet. | 00:45:07 | |
This project does require that Metal Rd. be extended southward from 1600 N to meet the end of this property. The new city is | 00:45:16 | |
coordinating this extension of Mill Rd. with the property owner, Martin Snow. In addition, allotment adjustment must first be | 00:45:22 | |
completed before any building permit applications are accepted for this project. Post site plan approval because the. Basically | 00:45:29 | |
the lot lines that are showing. | 00:45:35 | |
Shown here in this map do not exactly match the lot lines that are. | 00:45:41 | |
Depicted within the site plan application. So there needs to be that alignment that takes place. The site measures 10, | 00:45:46 | |
approximately 10 acres in size. | 00:45:52 | |
So here are the buildings. There's two sets of elevations and they basically show different articulations in the roof lines | 00:45:59 | |
basically between one building to the other. So this this elevation is very similar to what we did in Lot 5 in Eastlake. And | 00:46:07 | |
here's a small change in the variations that I mentioned. | 00:46:15 | |
In terms of materials and surface details, each side of the building has been currently designed and treated. | 00:46:25 | |
A lot of variations and thorns, textures, materials, modulation of light and shade and color. The buildings are done with a | 00:46:30 | |
combination of materials including cement, metal trims, and flashings. These buildings have been customized to fit the aesthetic | 00:46:36 | |
of the Vimic community using finishes that reflect the color, style, and quality of the community particularly. | 00:46:43 | |
The East Lake Industrial Park and all colors are subdued earth tones and do not contrast with naturally occurring colors. In terms | 00:46:49 | |
of massing, there's an event where we work closely with the applicants. The applicant has incorporated articulation within the | 00:46:56 | |
building facades, providing recessed wall plans, variation in color variations, and roofline design and roof overhangs. | 00:47:03 | |
Fenestration also adds also aids and breaking up the building's massing. | 00:47:09 | |
As I said before, building 7 differs slightly. Differs slightly from 8IN color and roof articulation details. | 00:47:17 | |
In terms of visual interests and attractiveness, the applicant has provided 2 sizable areas on the bottom corners of the buildings | 00:47:23 | |
for users to gather and to recreate. | 00:47:27 | |
These areas contain benches and BBQ pits and it's a pretty nice addition to the project site. So I'm going to show you the site | 00:47:34 | |
plan where that's at. | 00:47:39 | |
So those two areas I'm talking about are located right here and then another one directly across this drive aisle over here. | 00:47:46 | |
No significant views of mountains or lake are being interrupted. | 00:47:57 | |
By mechanical equipment is being concealed behind the parapet walls of the building and all elements and the size of the | 00:48:03 | |
pedestrian level will achieve a human sense of scale and create visual interest at eye level. | 00:48:08 | |
In terms of circulation and traffic, this project integrates pretty well with the future pedestrian and vehicular infrastructure | 00:48:16 | |
along Mill Rd. in the future of 1400 N to the South. | 00:48:21 | |
Bathroom access has been provided along the public right of way and throughout the site, cheerful attention was given to areas | 00:48:26 | |
where pedestrians would likely interface with moving vehicles, and the site plan shows a lot of. | 00:48:32 | |
Safe features for constant pedestrian animals There's a lot of crosswalks and many platforms for the best chance to get safety | 00:48:39 | |
across the parking lots and into the site. | 00:48:44 | |
The there's an interconnected system for ADA and predestined circulation which has been provided in around the site. | 00:48:50 | |
In regards to building orientation, so we're building entrances have been oriented toward Mill Rd. the major thoroughfare that | 00:48:59 | |
will traverse this area once completed and where most pedestrian or vehicular traffic will flow from. | 00:49:05 | |
In the investor in the FOI district, applicants only need to have 5% of the site to be open space. The applicant has provided 13% | 00:49:13 | |
of the site as open space. | 00:49:18 | |
And accessible interconnected system of passive and active open spaces have been provided. The various open spaces throughout the | 00:49:24 | |
site are accessible from all points of the site basically, and building configuration provides areas of sizable open spaces for | 00:49:29 | |
the public to gather. | 00:49:35 | |
In terms of parking lot and building lighting, all areas are intended for, all areas intended for parking shall be adequately | 00:49:43 | |
eliminated during nine hours. The applicant must submit a photometric plan to establish that all areas of the parking lots have | 00:49:49 | |
been adequately lit. So that's one document that we are still waiting to receive from the applicant. And in terms of setbacks, all | 00:49:55 | |
the setbacks are met. | 00:50:02 | |
Let's talk about parking and loading. | 00:50:09 | |
All the parking aisle and star dimensions are not for the code. 231 total parking space has been provided and only 221 were | 00:50:12 | |
required. Five. They made the 5% of dispersed into your landscaping within the parking lot. 1288 parking. 88 required. Parking | 00:50:20 | |
sales have been provided even though only seven were required for the code. | 00:50:28 | |
There's two of them accessible parking stalls. | 00:50:37 | |
And the code required 22 bicycle style on parking styles and we provided 24 which will be the inverted U design. | 00:50:41 | |
And the applicant, all the other bicycle parking cells are provided on each of the building entrances, which I thought was a | 00:50:54 | |
really cool feature because it makes it really accessible for those bikes to get in and out of the out of the building and park | 00:51:00 | |
conveniently next to those entrances. The applicant has made sure that all areas where there's potential for for pedestrian | 00:51:06 | |
interfacing vehicles have been clearly demarcated and distinguished and there is no parking space on the site that is more than | 00:51:12 | |
150 feet. | 00:51:18 | |
From a clearly marked walk over the utility entrance. | 00:51:23 | |
In terms of landslipping improvements, the landscaping complements the architecture of the buildings, provides the general | 00:51:28 | |
interest and variety, provides 3 elements for all parking lots. The landscaping provides year on verification and brings up the | 00:51:35 | |
natural landscaping and highlights building features. The plants are all in in line with the Venetian Landscape Manual. | 00:51:43 | |
When a site plan for buildings one to four is submitted in the future, the applicant shall address incorporating a landscaping | 00:51:51 | |
buffer between those buildings and the regional commercial zone to the north. | 00:51:58 | |
All the plans selected are drought tolerant and appropriate to our landscaping code and the developer is proposing a series of | 00:52:06 | |
water wise plants, trees and chubs, appropriate chart, climate and ground cover. Ground covers include a variation of of crushed | 00:52:13 | |
rock mulch. There are no prohibited plants that are being proposed per the manual. | 00:52:20 | |
There is also no turf or sod proposed as part of this plan. | 00:52:29 | |
They provided an attractive public streetscape design along the future Mill Road Ext. | 00:52:36 | |
And all the trees are trench caliper and other shoves are 55 gallon in size. They're treating their storm water through a series | 00:52:46 | |
of underground underground storm water detention systems on on the West side of building. | 00:52:53 | |
On east side building 7. On the West side of building 8, they do propose a single monument. | 00:53:01 | |
Single monument, official sign, but they understand that that that signage is to be reviewed through a separate sign permit. That | 00:53:09 | |
sign also does not interrupt any of the view triangles coming in and out of that drive aisle. | 00:53:16 | |
So staff recommends approval of the site plan provided the song of missions are met. So I have 9 conditions I. | 00:53:25 | |
You're good actually phasing out some fees and make some red run directions. The applicant is subject to all federal, state and | 00:53:35 | |
local laws. Before the applicant is allowed to proceed with the billing from the application, they must have a remedy lot line | 00:53:41 | |
adjustment or amended final plot recorded at the Utah Recorder's Office to create the partials proposed within the site plan | 00:53:47 | |
application For each elevation visible from the public or private St. A minimum of five a minimum 5 foot plan date plantation | 00:53:53 | |
area. | 00:53:59 | |
Be provided and to be fair, I think they have done that. It just doesn't show consistently throughout the plan site. So in their | 00:54:05 | |
site plan, I believe it shows it and then in the landscaping plan it does not show if that's what 5 foot foundation planting area. | 00:54:11 | |
So if that can be consistent through a plant set, that's what we'd like to see. | 00:54:18 | |
Before it happens, we're not to apply for the billing permit. They must have been for the metric plan that indicates that adequate | 00:54:26 | |
land shall be provided in all parking areas, with emphasis placed on appropriate lighting at entrances and exits. The fore metric | 00:54:32 | |
plan shall also show that life from the site does not cause a negative impact on adjacent buildings and properties. | 00:54:37 | |
Here is Commission #6 the applicant must adjust the required parking calculations in their site plan set so they they have | 00:54:44 | |
different pages. This is again a consistency concern. Just they should be consistent in what what the parking correct parking | 00:54:51 | |
parking calculations are which are 220 spaces required, total spaces required, and 788 spaces required. I think the gifts differ | 00:54:57 | |
from one planet to the other. | 00:55:03 | |
The small shrub burn on the southern premier of the site. | 00:55:10 | |
Along what was it 1400 N must also measure 36 inches in height as the one required along the road. The applicant shall remove any | 00:55:16 | |
invasive species, if any, from the true legends and vegetation legend. And I play some with something that is appropriate in the | 00:55:23 | |
Tree Landscape manual. And then all trees shall be minimum of 2 inch caliper in size and all shubs shall be a minimum of five | 00:55:31 | |
gallon in size. | 00:55:38 | |
Those are all the commissions. | 00:55:46 | |
Thank you. | 00:55:49 | |
Any questions? | 00:55:51 | |
I have a question. I have a question about the the road again. So in this site plan it shows the entrance on the West which would | 00:55:54 | |
go on the extended Mill Rd. | 00:56:00 | |
But then there's also an entrance on the South. | 00:56:06 | |
But that 1400 N is a future Rd. so would there just be one in and out for both buildings off of Mill Rd. | 00:56:10 | |
Is that what's being proposed? | 00:56:17 | |
Sorry, where Morgan? | 00:56:24 | |
Oh. | 00:56:28 | |
For this for this development, I think there's one here. | 00:56:31 | |
In the middle it doesn't about 1600 N It looks like for this one there was one other. | 00:56:37 | |
And she that shows there's basically 4 similar projects. Yeah, let me pull up that master landscape plan. Sorry. | 00:56:44 | |
Yeah, right there. Here we go. | 00:56:53 | |
So I'm just wondering, is the only in and out the Mill Road or are they extending to that 14th period? | 00:56:56 | |
North as well. | 00:57:02 | |
Right now what they're showing is that I mean, and I think this would be a good time for the applicant if you want to come into | 00:57:05 | |
the microphone. | 00:57:08 | |
To to to do some back and forth, but right now we're only proposing the one entrance to Mill Rd. | 00:57:13 | |
To respond, you need to be in the microphone. | 00:57:19 | |
Yeah, this is not part of the. | 00:57:29 | |
Grayed out. | 00:57:33 | |
My name is Chris. So on this map you see the word about buildings that's supposed to be part of the. | 00:57:40 | |
OK. So that would that would be in there. So another inference right there. | 00:57:50 | |
And this is also going to be. | 00:57:53 | |
Right now, so you guys already approved the Boyer project. This is how they're going to get to their to their site because they | 00:57:57 | |
have no. | 00:58:02 | |
Way to get to their site without no Rd. being built so they need access. | 00:58:07 | |
To get to their lot as well. So we're working with them help them gain that access. | 00:58:12 | |
Through the development of Mill Rd. | 00:58:20 | |
So just to reiterate, everything here in white is accurate. Yeah. And then additionally to this, that's part of the, yeah, still | 00:58:23 | |
have two entrances in and out and then eventually three, one 1400, it's about it. Thanks. | 00:58:31 | |
That's my only question, Brian. | 00:58:41 | |
In the introduction you talked about this being a warehouse in office type configuration with warehouses normally come semi | 00:58:45 | |
trucks. So are we anticipating a fairly high volume of of semis there and and adequate turnaround space and backing up the loading | 00:58:54 | |
docks and all of that? I just don't see that detail, but it may be there, right? Yeah, I think we would expect. | 00:59:02 | |
A good volume of that coming through, but I would encourage the applicant if they could. | 00:59:12 | |
Address that issue as well. | 00:59:17 | |
My name is Gil Rand, I'm the architect on the project if I can stick over here. | 00:59:23 | |
Can you hear him all right if he's over there? | 00:59:30 | |
One second. | 00:59:33 | |
Yeah, yeah, there's some slack in that cord. | 00:59:35 | |
All right, I'm talking about. | 00:59:52 | |
Space between the buildings. | 00:59:56 | |
That space is almost 200 feet wide, so trucks can. | 01:00:01 | |
Come in here then there are loading dots. | 01:00:06 | |
All along in between. | 01:00:10 | |
And so the trucks can come in, they have plenty of room to maneuver to to back into the loading docks and then to move, be able to | 01:00:13 | |
come out. | 01:00:16 | |
As well. So there this this is then we've done projects similar to this. We're using the same dimensions and things basically | 01:00:22 | |
we've had on other projects that have worked very, very well. | 01:00:27 | |
So will the trucks be competing with vehicular traffic entering and exiting as well? Will they be using this really kind of | 01:00:33 | |
separated at least well? | 01:00:38 | |
This would be the for vehicular access to the property and then obviously they can come around to this area here, which is | 01:00:44 | |
vehicular trucks I'm seeing would come in here and utilize this and until 1400 N is in the trucks will go back out that way as | 01:00:51 | |
well. Yeah, I just, I anticipated some conflict between trucks and cars. So if that's anticipated to divide it, that would be | 01:00:59 | |
great. And I think that's pretty much how it's going to work and. | 01:01:06 | |
Whole project gets developed. | 01:01:13 | |
Then there are. | 01:01:17 | |
You have your vehicular traffic all in this middle area and truck traffic can come in also from up there and from there. And so | 01:01:20 | |
they're pretty much separated. There are places where they will cross, but other than that and that the trucks are in one area and | 01:01:27 | |
vehicles in another that help. Any other questions about that? No, that that's my question there. | 01:01:35 | |
Now, well they're also do we also anticipate some light industrial manufacturing type activity. | 01:01:44 | |
Be in addition to this warehousing and offices, will there be some assembling and building going on in the buildings? I think the | 01:01:50 | |
code would allow them to do that, but they put the plans and support that have been submitted. They haven't outlined that that | 01:01:57 | |
would be a part of this, of these two buildings at least. So that just depends on the tenant. We build those, we build the shell | 01:02:04 | |
and then the tenant says, hey, we want this. So the Lot 5, which we're working on right now, E Lake lot 5. | 01:02:11 | |
Neutral cost. | 01:02:19 | |
Is running out both those buildings. So then we're building out according to their needs, clean rooms, mixing rooms, etcetera, | 01:02:21 | |
etcetera. So it just depends on the tenant what they need, if they need our warehousing and just a small office space or if they | 01:02:28 | |
need more office and less warehousing depending on their needs, we build to accommodate the tenants that are moving in. So, so we | 01:02:35 | |
do anticipate some some light industrial type of work there. It's possible, but it just depends on the tenant like. | 01:02:43 | |
So when we build it, we have no idea who's going to move in until after they do move in. | 01:02:51 | |
We have taken the approach for parking that is kind of a mix because if you have manufacturing that's more requires more parking | 01:02:57 | |
and so we've got kind of got a mix for the about half of it could be manufacturing, the other half could be strictly warehouse. | 01:03:05 | |
Those are my questions. Any other questions, Chris, OK. | 01:03:14 | |
No. All right. If so, do I have a mountain? | 01:03:22 | |
Maureen, you wanted to state an additional, I'm going to say I would add a condition that the the phasing plan be be updated to | 01:03:27 | |
show which roads are going to be built with with this project. I just think that that that's important to have an in our record. | 01:03:34 | |
So is there a? | 01:03:43 | |
So what is that the anticipated phasing of the in the in the overall master plan that they're providing here? They're just getting | 01:03:44 | |
approval for site plan tonight for those two buildings. What I'm saying is that they update the master plan that was submitted | 01:03:50 | |
with the application to show which elements of the infrastructures, which roads are going to be built. Because right now they're | 01:03:56 | |
just showing their site. You know, I think it'd be a more complete application. It would help us out. So right now we have no | 01:04:02 | |
information on the exact phase. | 01:04:08 | |
We know just from conversations, but we would like it as part of the record, so. | 01:04:14 | |
All right. Well, I am ready to put forward a motion. I move to approve the site plan application as requested by Christopher | 01:04:25 | |
Kephart with Vineyard Properties of Utah with the proposed 9 conditions that were read by Brian and also adding the condition to | 01:04:32 | |
update the infrastructure master plan showing. | 01:04:38 | |
Which roads will go in with this project? | 01:04:46 | |
Do you have a second? A second? All in favor? | 01:04:50 | |
Hi, alright. Thank you guys. | 01:04:53 | |
Moving on to thank you guys. | 01:04:56 | |
Looks great. Moving on to 4.4 City initiated site plan application for public works. | 01:04:58 | |
Chris Wilson, Public Works Director We earlier this year, in the in last year's fiscal budget, we approved some office additions | 01:05:15 | |
in the newly constructed public works building. There was some changes and suggestions. | 01:05:24 | |
That have been brought forward by the mayor and she's. | 01:05:33 | |
We've gone through a process of purchasing a mobile classroom and placing it up there at the public works site for the four | 01:05:38 | |
additional office space. So. | 01:05:44 | |
Attached you'll see here on the screen the Public Works site. This classroom will be placed on the South side of the building and | 01:05:51 | |
renovated there to provide that additional workspace. | 01:05:59 | |
There's a few it's just a basic classroom. This was a used classroom purchased through from that was used by the Alpine School | 01:06:08 | |
District purchased through Arm City. It will it'll as you can see now, it'll be placed on that South side. There's a an existing. | 01:06:16 | |
Temporary office trailer there that will be removed and. | 01:06:26 | |
You can Scroll down a little bit more Brian to the pictures to get an idea of what that classroom looks like. It's pretty, pretty | 01:06:33 | |
basic standard. | 01:06:38 | |
Keep going down South that that's where it's at on site now. So just to raise with a skirting on a a some ramps and steps going up | 01:06:46 | |
to it. We'll face the doors towards the to the north towards the building. So we'll have access to go between the two facilities, | 01:06:55 | |
restrooms and break room facilities, all the utilized in the building that's already. | 01:07:04 | |
Just wanted to present this to the Planning Commission so you're aware of the intentions of what's going on. This will be moved | 01:07:16 | |
out on site this weekend. It was kind of a rushed, well, we, we had it reserved to move for a few months now, but to be put on | 01:07:24 | |
this location came that direction came within the last few, the last week or week and 1/2. | 01:07:32 | |
But wanted to keep everybody in the loop so you're aware of what was being. | 01:07:40 | |
But being done there. So if you have any questions I'm happy to answer. Really this is the. | 01:07:45 | |
Most I know at this point of what you know, the next steps of use of this property is besides the the projects that are going on | 01:07:53 | |
the tank and such. So if I can answer any of those, I'd be great. If not, just do you know how temporary it is. | 01:08:01 | |
No, I mean it may be more long term, like temporary 5-10 years. | 01:08:11 | |
It all depends on on budget and what it allows us to build a more permanent facility. And Chris, quick, where is the current | 01:08:16 | |
Heritage Commission storage facility in comparison with where this is? Yeah, I'm just trying to look. | 01:08:25 | |
So yeah, it's just no, no, no, no, yeah, if if you go, it's just above where this page is cut off at. | 01:08:36 | |
I'll pull up the public base map to show. | 01:08:45 | |
I can barely see. | 01:08:51 | |
Yeah. | 01:09:01 | |
Start. | 01:09:04 | |
OK. | 01:09:14 | |
So you can see there's a right where your cursors to the left. | 01:09:15 | |
I am just left down and that's where the that storage unit is. | 01:09:19 | |
Thank you. | 01:09:26 | |
So it would be considerably. | 01:09:28 | |
Correct, correct. | 01:09:30 | |
So I do think it's kind of funny that the city was talking about how this is the entrance to the city and what it needs to look | 01:09:35 | |
all pretty. And then we spent $85,000 to make the wall on the water tower look pretty even though it's going to be fully blocked. | 01:09:42 | |
And then we're putting this building in. Kind of funny to me, but that's why Chris said temporary. | 01:09:49 | |
10/5 to 10/10 years is going to be beautiful. | 01:09:57 | |
Just turning it out, I wasn't like, I'm fine with this because I wasn't fine. I was fine with the wall. | 01:10:01 | |
Not having some $85,000 fancy design on it, so just saying. Just pointing it out. | 01:10:06 | |
And is it on the South side just for the entrance, the easy back and forth? Yeah. And also so if we ever extend that building or | 01:10:12 | |
expand the the permanent structure that we would, we would want to expand it to the north to. | 01:10:19 | |
Exactly. | 01:10:28 | |
Yeah, makes sense. And of course, we're still hoping at some point on that water storage facility that's alongside the rail. | 01:10:29 | |
Then we'll be able to use that as a mural, correct? Historical depiction of mural for 300 feet or something. They made it a lot | 01:10:38 | |
smaller. Yeah, there's going to be 10. | 01:10:43 | |
Yeah, yeah. No, so we got to get Don on there too in that Planning Commission. When we approved the not doing the thing on the | 01:10:51 | |
side, they turned that over into the City Council. So that's why I wanted to bring it up, because they turned over what we decided | 01:10:58 | |
here in the Planning Commission and now they want an ugly building in front, so. | 01:11:05 | |
Yeah, yeah. I have a motion or any questions? | 01:11:14 | |
Going to add a facade on this building, yeah? | 01:11:18 | |
No more questions for me, All right. Do I have a motion? | 01:11:22 | |
Yeah, I can make a motion. I move to approve the city initiated site plan application as discussed. | 01:11:28 | |
Do I have a second? | 01:11:34 | |
All right, that's Tim all in favor, aye. All right, moving into work Session 5.1 moderate income housing plan update. | 01:11:36 | |
That is this paper, that is. | 01:11:51 | |
Of everybody. | 01:11:53 | |
Brian, again, so these are the, I just want to outline the requirements of House Bill 462 and through this bill, basically the | 01:11:55 | |
state is requiring that all municipalities update their moderate income housing plans and ours is basically outlined within the | 01:12:01 | |
general plan within the modern income housing element or chapter of the general plan. | 01:12:08 | |
These updates, in line with the requirements, are due this year October the 1st, 2022. | 01:12:17 | |
And the report that is to be attached with this will require outlines of each of our modern compiling strategies and an | 01:12:24 | |
implementation plan and timeline for each strategy. | 01:12:30 | |
Because Vineyard now has a fixed guideway public transportation station AKA Vineyard Frontrunner Station, which is opening soon, | 01:12:38 | |
Vineyard is required to select five strategies from the strategies outlined in State Code 10 Dash 98403, General Plan preparation. | 01:12:46 | |
Municipalities that meet the above requirement and adopt. | 01:12:54 | |
Two additional strategies may receive priority consideration for funding. | 01:13:03 | |
From from TIFF, from TTIS and from COVID-19 Local Assistance Matching program. So in the very least we have to get 5 to meet the | 01:13:07 | |
state requirement. | 01:13:14 | |
But we want to be able to get the additional consideration for funding, so our aim is to get the seven. | 01:13:22 | |
Our next steps are to identify what strategies we're currently meeting or working on, and then we have to select, with your help, | 01:13:29 | |
commissioners, the additional strategies to meet the minimum requirement and hopefully qualify for that. | 01:13:35 | |
Grant consideration. | 01:13:44 | |
So I pointed out and left in front of you the the, I think it's 24 strategies that are outlined within that state code that's | 01:13:46 | |
referenced. | 01:13:51 | |
Yeah, 83X. So is that 24? | 01:13:58 | |
Two fewer than 26. OK, there you go. So. | 01:14:01 | |
Yeah. So if you guys want to just look through here. | 01:14:07 | |
And then following and and proceeding Planning Commission meeting in the next meeting will kind of continue this conversation | 01:14:11 | |
because this this really is a pressing matter for us with that October 1st deadline. In speaking with Morgan, the community | 01:14:18 | |
Development director, he feels like we're basically already doing A, which is and a few others. So a is rezoned for densities | 01:14:24 | |
necessary to facilitate the production of modern income housing. | 01:14:30 | |
E which is creator allow for and reduce regulations related to internal or detached accessory going units and residential zoning. | 01:14:37 | |
F which is zone or rezone for higher density of or moderate income residential development and commercial and mixed-use zones near | 01:14:46 | |
major transit investment corridors. Other definitions around this because I mean, we got ourselves into the same issue with the | 01:14:54 | |
general plan, just saying like high medium, like it doesn't, it's all relative, right? So is there anything defined? | 01:15:02 | |
They keep it pretty general. I think they're talking more about multi family housing. But overall we have like up zoned areas. | 01:15:10 | |
There's the click farm and we provided that 55 plus. | 01:15:14 | |
Community that's detached housing, but they're smaller lots, so I think that that would count as well. | 01:15:21 | |
Other definitions over income like this is moderate income, Yeah, there are definitions for. Yeah, yeah, there are. Because I | 01:15:26 | |
think it's important as we make decisions on future development that we also. | 01:15:32 | |
Explicitly tie it to these things and explain. | 01:15:40 | |
We're asked or in some cases required to do this, but doing this also helps open up grants and, you know, future development or, | 01:15:44 | |
you know, whatever, whatever it might be. | 01:15:49 | |
So yeah, I think we just need to I think that's part of the transparency process is just explaining the thought process behind | 01:15:57 | |
some of these decisions that are made and what's intended when when you rezone or change zoning or whatever it might be. Just | 01:16:04 | |
wanted to note that exactly. And Anthony, we have to be able to put that together in a well written report to the state. So, yeah, | 01:16:12 | |
so I mean, I guess I don't, I don't really want to read through all of them, but we have good arguments for. | 01:16:19 | |
That were that were working on a EF if you guys want to write these down. | 01:16:27 | |
A EFGH. | 01:16:34 | |
RV and W. | 01:16:39 | |
That's great. And we've also. | 01:16:42 | |
RV and W Yeah. | 01:16:47 | |
So yeah, once you guys get a chance to read these, you know, we can convene again in in the next Planning Commission meeting and | 01:16:50 | |
we kind of discuss your thoughts on this and kind of the direction that you guys feel with us to move forward in. | 01:16:58 | |
So we'll just have a follow up work session with this. Is there anything else that? | 01:17:07 | |
Yeah. And but we believe we actually need eight of those. And so anyway, if you want to go through, especially the ones that we | 01:17:16 | |
pointed out those eight, what we'll do is we'll start drafting the the general plan and we'll probably move forward with those | 01:17:23 | |
eight. We'll bring it back to you to to, to discuss further if you want. There's other items, you know there's. | 01:17:30 | |
Probably another six or seven that would be fun to to work on, you know, whether or not we used to need to and that's up for | 01:17:38 | |
question. But I think just look through those if you feel like some of those are items that could really help the city or were | 01:17:44 | |
basically there, I mean we we could add those as well. | 01:17:49 | |
How does the state define moderate income housing or is it just those nebulous terms also? No, they're, they're defined. I'm | 01:17:55 | |
trying to moderate income, I believe is the 80% tile of the AMI, the area medium income, Right. And is it a percentage of that for | 01:18:04 | |
like a monthly payment? Yeah, exactly. I think is it 30%? Yeah. So 30% of the of someone making 80%. | 01:18:12 | |
AMI you know of their income would be dedicated to housing so keeping it under the rent or the mortgage? | 01:18:21 | |
My question would be. | 01:18:29 | |
It'd be interesting to know where already qualifies or if there's anywhere in Vineyard that qualifies as moderate income housing. | 01:18:32 | |
Yes, we have nothing. My guess is nothing in Vineyard currently is. So there's there's different ways that there's market rate | 01:18:39 | |
right now. That's basically where we meet the moderate income housing. It's not being restricted. And so that that's kind of the | 01:18:46 | |
higher level of regulation or policy is getting into actually DD restricting things. So you have. | 01:18:54 | |
Controls or you have you know, if it's a for sale product that that basically the sale of that can't, can't be more than whatever | 01:19:02 | |
the those standard thresholds are. And there's potential of doing that with new development. But once stuff is built, it's hard to | 01:19:09 | |
go back and get restrict unless the city or working with a partner housing group, we were able to go in and purchase existing | 01:19:16 | |
units and then. | 01:19:23 | |
Deed restrict those, but we need more staff from a. | 01:19:30 | |
From just the current market conditions because we have so much high density and, and you know, apartment units and those things. | 01:19:35 | |
But over this next year and probably next, not this year, but next year, we'll, we'll bring more in depth housing study. We'll | 01:19:42 | |
probably hire a housing consultant who does nothing but the stuff to have them analyze our current housing stock. And then we'll | 01:19:49 | |
work for opportunities of, of where we can can up our game in the, you know. | 01:19:56 | |
The low to moderate income housing. There are several other brackets too. There's the 3050% AMI. | 01:20:03 | |
You know, I mean, there's, there's a lot of other numbers, the 30% AMI that's actually an important one to to consider as well, | 01:20:09 | |
because that's the, that's basically providing housing for people who are right at the cost of, of being homeless. And so, you | 01:20:14 | |
know, I think that's your. | 01:20:20 | |
I can't remember the category is, but it's poverty, yeah. And so, yeah. And there are those folks in our community as well. So | 01:20:26 | |
having a more dynamic approach to housing, we're we're going to need to to do that and we're looking at probably next year where | 01:20:32 | |
we'll be able to put some funds towards that. | 01:20:37 | |
All right, cool. Yeah, if you could bring those numbers here. | 01:20:44 | |
The beach kind of give us an idea that would be, yeah. | 01:20:47 | |
Right. | 01:20:52 | |
Moving to commit a member and staff report and expertise especially. | 01:20:55 | |
Anything from the Commission? | 01:21:00 | |
And so really, I think I think I'll probably explain a couple times. I'll do it here and there. But if you, if you do me with a, a | 01:21:04 | |
developer, usually it's not we've always kind of looked at the Planning Commission because you're appointed, you're not really a | 01:21:10 | |
group that should be lobbied it, it can happen. But this is the opportunity for you to say like XI don't understand that AB or C | 01:21:16 | |
developer. | 01:21:21 | |
Public works, you know, took me to launch and we talked about this or that. So it's an opportunity for you to be transparent. | 01:21:28 | |
Or, you know, my brother is investing, you know, or I have stock in, you know, this, this development group and they're building. | 01:21:36 | |
So it's your, it's your opportunity to be transparent with the public. So alright. | 01:21:42 | |
Just update, we're still working on quota plan. It looks really cool. We're going to have, we're going to be asking for some | 01:21:49 | |
public outreach real soon here. | 01:21:54 | |
But yeah, designs are coming together. It's it's going to be cool. Anything from staff. Yeah. And with that, we're going to be | 01:22:01 | |
having a Facebook Live event, I think at the beginning of next month. So we'll keep talking about that woman tonight again in the | 01:22:07 | |
next time of this meeting. | 01:22:13 | |
And social media posts will come out from the city about it, so we'd love to get more input. | 01:22:19 | |
Cool and then next Wednesday at 5:00 is a joint site visit with the City Council right So if you could make it please please try | 01:22:24 | |
your best to make it we're going to meet at the dead end of 300 WI sent you guys Oh I'm sorry 400 S did that ever it stops as it | 01:22:31 | |
goes into the hallway farms now Holyfield's development, but we'll park there and then we'll we'll walk over to the future E park | 01:22:39 | |
there's lots of silos some. | 01:22:46 | |
Structure structures, we know there's interest in trying to incorporate those into, into that park or into, you know, maybe future | 01:22:54 | |
parks. And so that, that's an opportunity for us to, to be on site for about 1/2 an hour and just talk with the council about | 01:23:00 | |
what, what we kind of envision using that park for. So you got to use your imagination because it's kind of hard on your hair, but | 01:23:06 | |
there there's some really neat structures and yeah, I think we can be creative and have, have a, you know, something that's really | 01:23:11 | |
beneficial to our city. | 01:23:17 | |
Cool. So Morgan, this is kind of a continuation of our walking around the same side here a few weeks ago. Well, so this will be an | 01:23:23 | |
official like Planning Commission, City Council, you know the the public's very welcome to come, just don't need to let let us | 01:23:30 | |
know probably beforehand. | 01:23:36 | |
So anyway. | 01:23:44 | |
Yeah, I did take a kind of a tour through there with Brian and Morgan and others. | 01:23:45 | |
Maybe 3 weeks ago or. | 01:23:52 | |
We identified quite a few implements that are still there on the property that we would love to take possession out and get and | 01:23:54 | |
have moved out of there. And we discovered a few silo, two or three silos that we didn't even know were there. So you can see 2 | 01:24:01 | |
pretty much that there are three other ones I think that are pretty cool that are there on the property and and there's a little | 01:24:07 | |
truck. | 01:24:13 | |
Probably 1930s forty truck. Yeah, we asked about that one. We heard, we were told by that the farmer who is leasing it right now | 01:24:21 | |
that that's already called for. Yeah. It's one of the family members that wants to restore it. Yeah. | 01:24:27 | |
But anyway, so there's some really neat things there that we hope to and the old grill barn to George looked at the barn and said | 01:24:35 | |
that essentially the barn needs to come down. It's not it's really, it would be more expensive to rehab than. But if we build | 01:24:41 | |
something similar to that, like we did a Community Center or something on the side, we could use a lot of the the the brick and | 01:24:47 | |
some of the material and incorporate that into the design. So you'd still have, you know, a modern structure that Harkins back to | 01:24:53 | |
the history of the site. It's like. | 01:24:59 | |
Kind of a fun, cool, a fun facility. All right, yo, we'll be there. | 01:25:05 | |
Yep, 5:00 in this park there in that dead end, and we'll walk over. | 01:25:12 | |
Yes, Yeah. That's good. That's good. | 01:25:21 | |
Yeah, exactly. | 01:25:24 | |
All right. Anything else? Nothing from staff. If that's it, then we will need an agenda. | 01:25:26 |
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Welcome everybody. It is August 3rd. This is the Vineyard Planning Commission meeting. | 00:00:05 | |
We'll get right into it. Anthony will give us a Pledge of Allegiance. | 00:00:10 | |
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, | 00:00:18 | |
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. | 00:00:24 | |
Great. Thank you, Anthony. All right, right now is an open session. If you have any comments for the Commission, you can come up | 00:00:34 | |
to the microphone, state your name and make any comments either you guys have any comments? | 00:00:41 | |
Cool. All right. If not, we'll move right into the minutes review and approval. Do I have a motion on that? | 00:00:48 | |
Yeah, I make a motion to accept the minutes from July 6th. Do I have a second? Second. All in favor? Aye. All right. Moving a | 00:00:56 | |
business item 4.1 Holdroy field preliminary plat application. | 00:01:01 | |
OK, Nate, can you hear us through the Microsoft? | 00:01:29 | |
OK, perfect. All right. My name is Brian Maya Perez. I'm a city planner here in the Community Development Department. And we're | 00:01:35 | |
going to be reviewing the preliminary plat that was submitted by Ryan Bybee and Neighbor child with Cadence Homes and Good | 00:01:40 | |
Goodborough. | 00:01:45 | |
So to provide you a quick summary. | 00:01:52 | |
So I'm just going to change my slide here. | 00:01:56 | |
They're requesting a request an approval of a preliminary plat for all the way Fields development. The property will be developed | 00:02:00 | |
in accordance with the development agreement approved by City Council on July 13th, 2022. The preliminary plat proposes 295 single | 00:02:07 | |
family detached residences and was prepared in accordance with the Vineyard City Subdivision Code and Holdaway Farms Special | 00:02:13 | |
Purpose Zoning District. | 00:02:19 | |
The preliminary plot shows the general layouts of the streets, the alleys, blocks, etcetera. | 00:02:26 | |
And the overall purpose of the preliminary plat is to show the lots that are being created by the subdivision, ensure proper | 00:02:30 | |
coordination of public private St. systems and circulation, review the demand and availability of Public Utilities, parks, open | 00:02:36 | |
spaces and recreational sites, and to review the product densities. | 00:02:42 | |
The approved learning plot. | 00:02:49 | |
And development agreement. Then invest the applicant with various development rights including density, St. configurations and lot | 00:02:52 | |
layouts. | 00:02:55 | |
So I just want to give you guys a breakdown of the residential units and their proposed categories and sizes throughout the | 00:03:01 | |
project. So just as a caveat, there's no attached residential products that's being proposed with this preliminary plat. The | 00:03:09 | |
preliminary plat only proposes detached single family units. So a lot of us might be familiar with the project. | 00:03:16 | |
As we've attended the various meetings throughout the last year, estate lots, they're proposing 150 estate lots. | 00:03:24 | |
18 village lots, 127 cottage lots and a total of 295 total lots. | 00:03:32 | |
In terms of phasing? | 00:03:41 | |
Here's a map that shows the proposed phasing. The Hallway Field Subdivision will be developed in accordance with the phasing | 00:03:44 | |
schedule set forth in Exhibit D of the approved Development Agreement from that July 13th, 2022 City Council meeting. The phasing | 00:03:52 | |
is to ensure continuity and orderly development of the project, installation of infrastructure improvements, future road and | 00:03:59 | |
utility capacity needs, the availability of access to all portions of the project, and all other related considerations. | 00:04:06 | |
In terms of traffic and circulation, the preliminary plot that's been submitted labels all existing in future roadway connections | 00:04:19 | |
and the proposed names. The preliminary plot labels all private and public roads or and roads to be dedicated to the city. They | 00:04:27 | |
provided a roadways cross section on page C 13 of the preliminary package that shows the road dimensions and the profiles. | 00:04:35 | |
Let's talk about parks and open space. The plan labels are intended areas for parks, trails and open space. Here are the parks, | 00:04:47 | |
the public parks that are being proposed to be dedicated to the city. The east park on the far right is is going to be 5 acres in | 00:04:54 | |
size. The Holdaway Park on the southwest portion of the. | 00:05:01 | |
Site is also 5 acres and the bike trail park in the northwest section is 2 acres. | 00:05:09 | |
And in regards to private parts and recreational areas, there will be an age restricted clubhouse, pool and associated private | 00:05:16 | |
amenities that are just under an acre in size towards the middle of the of the project at the intersection of 400 and Main. | 00:05:24 | |
Talking about utilities and services, the applicant is labeled on the preliminary plat all the appropriate connections and | 00:05:36 | |
improvements for culinary water, sewer, storm drainage, ground drainage and electrical power. They also show several connections | 00:05:42 | |
for fire hydrants, 12 foot St. lights, 20 foot St. lights and overhead and varied power lines. The preliminary plan proposes an | 00:05:49 | |
underground storm water detention system beneath the future Holdaway Park, which is the one on the. | 00:05:56 | |
Southwest portion of the property and the permanent plot proposed to remove several concrete ditches. Previously missed irrigation | 00:06:03 | |
and irrigation of agricultural lands. | 00:06:09 | |
The applicant has labeled all existing and proposed St. trees. It's a little bit hard to see on this map, but this is Sorry. This | 00:06:16 | |
is a utility insurance that I should pump up earlier, but this is the trees and vegetation. It's not landscaping plans within | 00:06:25 | |
individual building. Building permits for each lot shall conform generally with with the landscaping being shown here. | 00:06:33 | |
Morgan, I think you should talk about this really quick. The landslide with Jacob Holdaway. Did you clarify that for the plan | 00:06:46 | |
Commission? Sherry, do you want to pull the map up? Yeah. | 00:06:51 | |
Yeah, if you just show where it's squared up on the east part, yeah, you can actually joggle between the two. So this is how the | 00:06:59 | |
neighborhood plan had it laid out. If you can see on that E park where there's kind of the the indent along 400 S, the the parcel | 00:07:08 | |
line is at an angle and as it connects to four or South. And they were kind of an awkward park layout. And so the developer. | 00:07:17 | |
Worked with Keith Holdaway, the owner of the property just to the the east of of that that park and they they did a small land | 00:07:26 | |
swap that that basically just made it a straight line. Do you want to jump to that look like the next next slide? | 00:07:34 | |
There you go there. So it shows it. | 00:07:46 | |
That's squared off. So anyway, just wanted to bring that here attention. | 00:07:49 | |
Are you able to see that? Do you have any questions about it Planning Commission? | 00:07:53 | |
Well, in the throbbing of the land, what what was it? Who gained what or who lost what? I mean, I know we straightened the line | 00:07:57 | |
out, but is it the exact same? And so there's a the same size triangle on both sides of swapped which which made it change the | 00:08:02 | |
angle of the. | 00:08:07 | |
OK, umm. | 00:08:13 | |
OK. Thank you, Morgan. | 00:08:16 | |
So next steps for the applicant is after the preliminary plat is approved, the applicant must submit a final plan application and | 00:08:20 | |
once a final plan is approved by City Council and by the Planning Commission, it may be recorded at the Utah County Recorder's | 00:08:28 | |
Office. Once the final plot is recorded at Utah County, the applicant can ban and submit for building permits. | 00:08:36 | |
And then? | 00:08:45 | |
As a special note, the public parks and the clubhouse and the humanities shall require separate site plan applications for | 00:08:47 | |
Planning Commission approval, so you guys will be seeing those in the future. | 00:08:51 | |
So the application is online via Zoom. The Planning Commission has any questions or concerns about this application. | 00:08:57 | |
I've got a couple of questions, mostly about the infrastructure going in, if you can go back to the phase map. | 00:09:08 | |
I just want to make sure that it's not just the homes, but it's also the road infrastructure that's going in in that same order. | 00:09:17 | |
It's like phase one would not connect to 400 S, only to Sleepy Ridge. Is that correct? | 00:09:24 | |
Yeah, that's correct. Phase one will connect to Main Street on the north and see the original South. | 00:09:33 | |
OK, the reason I'm asking is I think a lot of the people who. | 00:09:40 | |
Were either neutral or negative on this project. Saw one of the key benefits as a connection to 400 S. | 00:09:46 | |
You know, making another way in and out of the city. | 00:09:54 | |
So that not being part of phase one. | 00:09:59 | |
I I think that's important to at least acknowledge that, you know, there may be some people saying like, hey, why is this | 00:10:02 | |
connecting to sleepy Ridge instead of the 400 SI get it with the with the phasing plan here. But I do think that that's. | 00:10:08 | |
I was kind of expecting to see that connection in the first phase and then also have questions about the trail extension. I I | 00:10:17 | |
wasn't real clear on which phase that would come in with. | 00:10:23 | |
Are you talking about on the the lake, the lake trail? I believe that is slated for the last phase And the reason being, you know, | 00:10:31 | |
the cities preferred option would be to have a lake trail that aligns out towards the lake. We don't necessarily want a trail | 00:10:38 | |
right on the property line. We wanted it to be part of the actual Utah lake shoreline trail alignment. So out by by the lake. And | 00:10:45 | |
so the idea was to push that as far as we could. | 00:10:52 | |
Allowing us to time to work with the property owner and then we would build because the the funds the state is already appropriate | 00:11:00 | |
funds for that trail so. | 00:11:04 | |
We can work something out with the the property owner and there there are some legal disputes about the ownership. So it's kind of | 00:11:09 | |
a complex situation, but that gives us some time. | 00:11:13 | |
OK. Yeah. I just wanted clarity on that and then just to. | 00:11:19 | |
You know, record my comment that I think, I think there were expectations that one of the first infrastructure things would be a | 00:11:22 | |
connection to 400 S. | 00:11:26 | |
Right or wrong, I mean, right, Yeah, the the City Council had shared this the same concerns and they worked with the applicant. | 00:11:32 | |
They did approve the development agreement. And one of the items is that I can't remember the exact unit number, but it's about a | 00:11:40 | |
specific unit number. If the infrastructure hasn't been built, then they'll then deed the right of way to to the city. | 00:11:49 | |
Which is actually really helpful in case there there is, you know, some sort of. | 00:11:58 | |
Terrible economic thing. There's something happens to this project, but it would at least provide ownership of the right of way to | 00:12:03 | |
the city. But it's still tagged with phase two of the project. So it, it, it is in a very early phase. But yeah, no, unfortunately | 00:12:08 | |
it won't. It won't be right out of the gate. | 00:12:13 | |
And is there any what's the thinking about how long between Phase 1 and 2? | 00:12:18 | |
That'd be a good. | 00:12:24 | |
That'd be a good question for the applicant if negator, Eric or whoever's on, they explained it pretty well in the City Council. | 00:12:26 | |
They have a process that they go through. So basically faces start like a phase two would start while phase one was going so that | 00:12:32 | |
there's always an inventory houses. I don't know if they want to comment on it. | 00:12:37 | |
So yeah. | 00:12:47 | |
Morgan, do you want me to comment? Yeah, Yeah. Well, if you want to just provide a little insight on your timeline. | 00:12:48 | |
And so the objective once we get started is to not have a gap in our ability to sell homes. And and so the the processes as we | 00:12:55 | |
begin selling homes in phase one, we're watching for the pace of that process of that self process and we'll start the phase two | 00:13:02 | |
infrastructure. | 00:13:09 | |
While we're selling homes and pay amongst us that phase two homes are available. | 00:13:18 | |
After concluding, so it comes in phase one. Now having said that, as Morgan said, the phasing was this. This whole concept of | 00:13:23 | |
phasing 1 and 2 was located extensively with the City Council a few weeks ago where in if we haven't. | 00:13:31 | |
That we haven't begun the planning process after we've sold a certain number of homes in phase one and by the time we sold certain | 00:13:40 | |
other poems in phase one, we didn't have the right to ask them with that easement for that roadway to facilitate, you know, if | 00:13:47 | |
necessary, construction anyway. | 00:13:53 | |
But but as regards overall timing, I would expect that we would. | 00:14:01 | |
Being about six months together. | 00:14:07 | |
In terms of staging, phase one and Phase 2. | 00:14:12 | |
Thank you. | 00:14:17 | |
Any other questions? | 00:14:20 | |
My only concern with it is the parking on Lakeview St. | 00:14:23 | |
I'd rather not see parking there if I think if we're going to do parking, it should be on 400 S and something that you pull into | 00:14:29 | |
the way it is now in Lakeview St. | 00:14:34 | |
Kind of encourages traffic to go down like V street into. | 00:14:39 | |
The Elm subdivision. | 00:14:43 | |
Yeah, So just by East Park, that's the, that's, that's the road that's on the West side of East Park in the green. No, the the | 00:14:46 | |
East Park, the one to the right. | 00:14:52 | |
That road, are you talking about that road right there, right? Yeah. So that, that would be parking specifically for for that | 00:14:59 | |
park. We haven't designed it. So we'll go through a site plan process, but that, that, that's good to to know those types of | 00:15:05 | |
concerns. The idea was to try to utilize the right of way to accommodate some of the the parking needs for the park so that we | 00:15:10 | |
could build a park out and have basically as much open space as we can. We can, but most likely we're probably going to have to do | 00:15:16 | |
a, a more of a formal parking lot. | 00:15:22 | |
But anyway we can workout those those types of details. But thanks for noting that. OK, so that's not something that's like set in | 00:15:28 | |
stone with this. No, that'll that'll come through an official site plan process. So the parks will all go go to you for for | 00:15:35 | |
review. OK, so this is just important to note that the developer has part of the development agreement. Developer has agreed to | 00:15:41 | |
work on traffic calming along Zippendale to help reduce the. | 00:15:47 | |
Volume of cars as well as specifically about the speeds of the cars that may be utilizing different now at all. | 00:15:54 | |
It's important to know that the developer is going to be partnering with the city on that. | 00:16:00 | |
Alright. | 00:16:05 | |
And then there wasn't really details on the crossings around the roundabout. | 00:16:10 | |
Are there any plans for that or because I know it's real, there's that trail connection, I just want to make sure that there's a | 00:16:16 | |
good way to cross there, if there any. Yeah. And so in regards to the roundabouts, I mean, currently we just allocate the space in | 00:16:24 | |
the roundabouts. We're working with our active transportation consultants to help provide us some, some information on. | 00:16:32 | |
So I missed work in reviewing the plan. I missed where the roundabouts are. There's just one, right? | 00:17:11 | |
20, there are two, Sorry, yeah, there's one. They're both on 400 S. | 00:17:19 | |
One of them is at Lakeview where you would enter Lakeview and the other one is at Main St. | 00:17:25 | |
It's the Main Street for South Roundabout. You're going to do that. Possibly you're going to look at the other one. Or are you | 00:17:32 | |
doing for sure doing both roundabouts? | 00:17:36 | |
I don't know if that was in question or not. So the roundabouts that have been proposed and supported with the study that the | 00:17:41 | |
traffic engineer, Ryan Hales Engineering has provided by the developer will be around by the Main Street and Center St. which is | 00:17:48 | |
kind of there. And also the roundabout that's to the using my fingers to the east, right where the east park is right there | 00:17:56 | |
serving us because it's it's, it's halfway there. I'll say like that. | 00:18:03 | |
In terms of the studies that came back, that doesn't justify anything about that. And we believe that for this type of level of | 00:18:12 | |
traffic, you know, being more towards your residential. | 00:18:18 | |
After transportation or more progression, having roundabouts actually leads to a higher level of profitability instead of having | 00:18:26 | |
traffic signals where when pedestrian interests for a roundabout they go, they have more free ability to go versus a traffic | 00:18:32 | |
signal. | 00:18:38 | |
Where they're more is more controlled stop go as well like as well as that, however, I'm sure that you know, everything can change | 00:18:44 | |
tomorrow, which I say that very hard, like heart wave, but I think was being proposed here is actually what will be very | 00:18:51 | |
beneficial to the city. | 00:18:57 | |
I'll help out. | 00:19:05 | |
Enhanced like the. | 00:19:08 | |
The environment. The visual environment. There we go. | 00:19:10 | |
Making words out. Does that go wrong? | 00:19:15 | |
All right. Any other questions or? | 00:19:17 | |
It's not Do I have a motion? | 00:19:23 | |
I can. | 00:19:31 | |
I move to approve the preliminary application of Life Fields as requested by Brian Bybee with Cadence Homes with the proposed | 00:19:33 | |
conditions of the applicant pays any outstanding fees and makes any red line corrections and the applicant is subject to a | 00:19:39 | |
federal, state and local laws. | 00:19:45 | |
2nd. | 00:19:51 | |
All in favor. | 00:19:53 | |
Right. OK. I'm moving on to 4.2. This is a public hearing. So do I have a motion to open up a public hearing? | 00:19:55 | |
Motion to open up the public hearing second all in favor aye right. This is the for the site plan conditional use permit | 00:20:05 | |
application from X development. OK, thank you. This is still Brian city planner introducing this application. So we got the | 00:20:11 | |
applicant Carla Mata with 50 mil LLC seeking approval of the site plan and conditional use permit for two retail buildings at the | 00:20:17 | |
yard lot 3. | 00:20:23 | |
Address that 661 is 450 N to lottery will be a complementary addition to the mixed-use center of the yard. Both buildings are to | 00:20:30 | |
provide desirable amenities and services to venue city residents and visitors. The size of the site is 1.37 acres and both | 00:20:37 | |
buildings will house retail uses. The north building will house 1 tenant and then the South building will house 3 tenants. So this | 00:20:44 | |
map here gives you. | 00:20:51 | |
Some context to where this is located. | 00:20:59 | |
Here's the site plan. The property is zoned Regional Excuse Zone intends to provide commercial employment residential uses in a | 00:21:02 | |
mixed setting. The applicant is in the process of identifying potential tenants and drive throughs between the front, the | 00:21:09 | |
building's front facade and the property. The front property line triggered a conditional use permit. | 00:21:16 | |
So. | 00:21:25 | |
In terms of site planning. | 00:21:29 | |
This is my spots here. There we go. | 00:21:33 | |
I wanted to talk about the architecture of the buildings. So the architecture is a modern aesthetic consistent with the surround | 00:21:37 | |
development. The architecture features vintage wood exteriors, rib panels, tempered glazing, concrete masonry and ruminant | 00:21:44 | |
trimmings and finishings is a very nicely designed building. All colors proposed are subdued earth tones and not contrast with | 00:21:50 | |
naturally occurring colors in terms of massing. | 00:21:57 | |
Plenty of variations in building shape and configuration are being proposed. | 00:22:05 | |
The buildings themselves are relatively small in height and so that allows them to not interrupt any significant views of the | 00:22:08 | |
mountains of the lakes. Monotonous facades were avoided through ground level fenestration and recessing and projecting of Laurel | 00:22:15 | |
planes, and there's lots of variations in the roof lines. | 00:22:22 | |
Each building is proposing to provide a walkable gathering area where people can enjoy a meal. They can sit and dine and and just | 00:22:31 | |
enjoy the local amenities. | 00:22:36 | |
All elements of the facades and facades at the pedestrian level achieve a sense of human scale and create visual interest at eye | 00:22:42 | |
level. | 00:22:46 | |
In terms of circulation, the site plan integrates well with Arterial Mill Road to the West and with internal private roads to the | 00:22:50 | |
east, north and the South. The parking lot incorporates additional shared parking stalls for future entertainment uses at the | 00:22:56 | |
yard, including Top Golf to the east and Interconnected system for ADA, Americans with Disabilities Act and pedestrian circulation | 00:23:02 | |
has been provided in and around the site. | 00:23:08 | |
Modes of transportation are sufficiently and safely separated and demarcated. | 00:23:14 | |
So that means that there's safe interaction between pedestrians and vehicles whenever there's a possibility that they might | 00:23:21 | |
engage. In terms of building orientation, all the buildings have been oriented towards Mill Road and the the principal arterial | 00:23:27 | |
adjacent to this site. To further encourage the pedestrian relationship with the buildings, each building has a public entrance | 00:23:33 | |
off of Mill Rd. | 00:23:39 | |
In terms of open space and an accessible Internet, interconnected system of passive and active open spaces have been providing | 00:23:46 | |
provided. | 00:23:50 | |
The building configuration provides areas of sizable open space and spaces for public gathering. | 00:23:56 | |
In regards to parking lot lighting, all areas intended for parking shall be adequately illuminated during night hours. The parking | 00:24:03 | |
lot lighting is down lit and poles do not exceed the 20 foot height requirement. Lighting on the site will not spill over into | 00:24:07 | |
adjacent properties. | 00:24:12 | |
In regards to setbacks, all the setbacks are being met for the regional mixed-use code. So to talk a little bit more on parking, | 00:24:17 | |
all the parking aisle dimensions and parking stalls dimensions are are being met. | 00:24:24 | |
The code requires a 27 parking stalls be installed, but they have gone ahead and provided 17 additional parking stalls that will | 00:24:33 | |
be shared with the entertainment uses throughout the yard. 5.2% of the growth parking surface area isn't is dispersed into your | 00:24:39 | |
landscaping. | 00:24:44 | |
And two ADA required parking stalls have been provided and 1 van accessible ADA Parkinson has been provided in terms of parking. 3 | 00:24:51 | |
stalls were provided for the code, but they have provided required for the code, but they provided for that are the inverted youth | 00:24:58 | |
design which is what our code. | 00:25:05 | |
Calls for and it meets all the other bicycle parking codes. | 00:25:14 | |
Umm, let me see. | 00:25:19 | |
The parking lot is going to be screened from the street from Mill Rd. with a landscaping berm. So let's let's talk about | 00:25:22 | |
landscaping a little bit. The landscaping compliments the architecture. The architecture of the buildings provides the visual | 00:25:29 | |
interest and variety, provides screening elements for the drive throughs and the parking lots. It also provides the around | 00:25:35 | |
beautification and blends well with the natural landscape and highlights the building features. | 00:25:41 | |
All the plants conform with the installation standards within the Vineyard Tree and Landscape Manual. | 00:25:49 | |
And all the all the plants and plant species have been selected are drought tolerant codes for the landscaping code. Nearly 20% of | 00:25:54 | |
the site includes drought tolerant landscaping that is sensitive to a regional and local water conservation initiatives and large | 00:26:04 | |
areas of decorative rock and gravel with dispersed trees and have have been proposed they've kept sod or turf to. | 00:26:14 | |
To a bare minimum, I mean long, the Mill Rd. Park strip and. | 00:26:24 | |
They've maintained the 25 foot barrier, sorry buffer, landscaping buffer that is required for our landscaping code. They've also | 00:26:32 | |
provided a nice streetscape design. | 00:26:37 | |
All their trees are two inch caliper and we will require that all their shrubs be 5 gallon in size. There's no detention basins on | 00:26:44 | |
the site. They're going to be tapping into an underground, some water detention basin that's a part of lot 2 if I'm correct to the | 00:26:49 | |
east of the site. | 00:26:55 | |
And all signage is to be reviewed through a separate signed permit. So just wanted to quickly show you guys their landscaping plan | 00:27:02 | |
if I got too busy talking. | 00:27:07 | |
But you looked over that for a quick minute. | 00:27:16 | |
And then here they're building elevations. This is for the South building, which will house 3 tenants. | 00:27:23 | |
And this are the elevations for the north building. | 00:27:33 | |
Here's a few renderings of the North building. | 00:27:43 | |
With the accompanying dining area. | 00:27:46 | |
OK, so here are staff recommendation. Staff recommends approval of the site plan and condition use permit provide the following | 00:27:50 | |
conditions are not the applicant must complete a traffic study showing the impacts of the proposed development. That was something | 00:27:56 | |
that was required by engineering and we're hoping to receive that within the next few weeks on the applicant. All the all the | 00:28:02 | |
shrubs on the on the site must be 5 gallon. | 00:28:07 | |
Additional some that are 1 gallon and myself and the water manager would prefer that all the shrubs are 5 gallon so that will | 00:28:14 | |
require few changes to the to the to the landscaping legend. | 00:28:20 | |
And that the applicant the other conditions are that the applicant pays an outstanding fees and make any Redmond corrections and | 00:28:26 | |
the applicant subject to all federal, state and local laws. So then if you have any questions for them. | 00:28:32 | |
You guys have any questions? | 00:28:40 | |
So go ahead. OK, I was just noticing it on the. | 00:28:44 | |
Bottom. That's South. | 00:28:50 | |
The sidewalk runs right up next to the drive through Rd. | 00:28:53 | |
Umm, that like a insurance chef. | 00:29:00 | |
Safe, but you know, it doesn't feel safe, and there's someone who would be using that to walk on quite frequently. Live in the | 00:29:06 | |
neighborhood South of it. | 00:29:10 | |
I don't know 'cause I feel like the trees, I don't want to shrink the space. | 00:29:16 | |
Is there any kind of buffer there between the sidewalk and the drive through? | 00:29:24 | |
Between the on the South part of the building. Yeah, I believe so. | 00:29:28 | |
I'm sure there's a curve, I'm just wondering. Oh, maybe no. It seems like there's a landscaping burn to the South of the sidewalk | 00:29:35 | |
but not to the north. | 00:29:39 | |
Yeah. | 00:29:45 | |
So that's so. | 00:29:47 | |
Outside of the things that you brought up, that staff would like to see change that. | 00:29:51 | |
I I'm uncomfortable walking there just because people can drive. Well done. Would it be possible to do something very similar to | 00:29:56 | |
the north side where it's buffered a little bit but then comes in where you would cross the drive through lane to get into the | 00:30:01 | |
restaurant? | 00:30:05 | |
Hello. Hi, can I make a comment? Yeah, hello everybody. What's your name? Sure. My name is Carla Mata with X development. So as | 00:30:10 | |
far as that crosswalk is concerned, that's all back of house stuff. It's mostly intended for for employees that are going to have | 00:30:17 | |
to cross behind and go over to the trash enclosure, which is on the West side there. It's not really so much intended for for | 00:30:24 | |
pedestrian traffic like, you know, the the the customers and so forth. So. | 00:30:31 | |
So she's talking about. Oh, I thought you were talking about. OK, I apologize. I thought you were talking about the crosswalk | 00:30:38 | |
going to. | 00:30:42 | |
The southern building. | 00:30:45 | |
I'm pulling it up, yeah. | 00:30:50 | |
Cortana. | 00:30:53 | |
If you can. | 00:30:56 | |
So just how the drive through Rd. runs right up against gotcha and just has the curbing right there. | 00:30:59 | |
Yeah. So yeah, I'm wondering what kind of a buffer we have between the road and sidewalk other than a curve. | 00:31:06 | |
Yeah, and that's. | 00:31:14 | |
Split the difference between it 'cause it looks like you're doing shrinking up a landscaping, yeah. Or you, you put it on both | 00:31:17 | |
sides if you're at like 6 feet and you just do 3 feet in each side 'cause if it's a desert landscape with the with the drip system | 00:31:23 | |
anyway, you're not having, you know, sprayers. Would you, would you be fine with something similar to the north section? | 00:31:29 | |
Right, like comes in, yes, at that, Yeah, just like a little bit next to the drive through Rd. feels OK because I I would be | 00:31:35 | |
willing to walk on that. | 00:31:41 | |
But my, you know, my kids will be probably frequent in these places, probably on their own teenagers, you know, and so. | 00:31:48 | |
I, yeah, I just, OK, we will definitely have that discussion with the, the landscape architect and the and most the retail | 00:31:57 | |
architect and see how we can, we can shift that over a little bit. I mean, I'd hate to lose the trees too. So I'm a little torn. I | 00:32:01 | |
don't know. | 00:32:06 | |
Totally. OK, I'll see what we can do there. Yeah, I mean, from our, our goal is to try to keep trees within a minimum of 6 feet. | 00:32:12 | |
That's, that's sort of what we've been trying to do. I mean, they can survive in smaller conditions, but you know, they, it's a | 00:32:17 | |
root system, a little more space. | 00:32:22 | |
878 and a half, yeah. | 00:32:29 | |
Yeah, so maybe it sounds like a couple feet then it's like you're, are you worried just about like a tire popping over and | 00:32:32 | |
smacking someone or does it come around the corner? Yeah, yeah. So did you just give a couple more feet then? I think OK, yeah. Or | 00:32:38 | |
some kind of buffer like a 2 foot retaining wall or something? Yeah, or, or like a handrail even, I mean some, some kind of | 00:32:44 | |
barrier. | 00:32:50 | |
And pedestrians feeling like, OK, there's something between me and these cars. | 00:32:58 | |
OK. Maybe even some grasses or something like that. Yeah, yeah. | 00:33:03 | |
So depending on if you approve it, I would recommend adding a condition and you can make a condition as general as you want or as | 00:33:08 | |
specific as you want. So you if you guys want to think through kind of what that could be, you know, like the applicant will will | 00:33:15 | |
provide staff with some options of providing more, more protection to the pedestrians, whether it's moving the, you know, the | 00:33:22 | |
landscaping to that side or some other entertainer, right? Exactly. | 00:33:28 | |
Right, Yeah, I don't think I need to like a specific. | 00:33:36 | |
Yeah. Is this just for separation or do you want to do it to be for for safety reasons or just a line of demarcations? They | 00:33:41 | |
realize there's cars there, safety, not enough to stop a car, but you're looking at like a minor. | 00:33:48 | |
Just like with the with roads, we can't just like stick a bunch of. | 00:33:59 | |
Speed bumps everywhere, but we can have speed medication. | 00:34:06 | |
Step so like this would be more of a. | 00:34:10 | |
The card notices that there's plants and maybe they're going to be more careful with their car around that area between. | 00:34:13 | |
Now there's, there's rocks there placed too. Isn't that what you're showing? It's showing that's not between the sidewalk and the | 00:34:24 | |
drive through aisle. Yeah. So just right there, just be like moving the sidewalk a little bit South. And if I may, I have a | 00:34:31 | |
little, I have some language that you guys could consider. So I wrote as a condition landscaping buffer at least two to three feet | 00:34:37 | |
between the southern drive through aisle. | 00:34:43 | |
In the pedestrian walkway South of the southern building on the site shall be provided. So I don't think it needs to be two or | 00:34:50 | |
three feet if it's something more solid, so wall or even like posts with the chain or yeah, it doesn't mean to be landscaping, | 00:34:56 | |
just some division could be post with change between them or something like that. | 00:35:02 | |
But I mean, obviously the landscaping action will look better. Yeah, we'll come up with some proposals I think staff could handle. | 00:35:09 | |
Yeah. | 00:35:17 | |
I had a similar question, but it was around the architectural rendering of of the outside dining areas and I didn't see any | 00:35:25 | |
division between the dining area and and the roadway. | 00:35:32 | |
And I may have missed it. I mean go on to the next one. | 00:35:39 | |
Down right in there. | 00:35:44 | |
Is there OK and I may have missed it but I just wanted to make sure there is barriers between the outside dining and the roadways. | 00:35:49 | |
Yes. And Tyler, did you want to speak to that at all or? | 00:35:59 | |
No, I mean I there was about that separation. Yeah, in the renderings there is a fence. | 00:36:03 | |
OK. Any questions, Chris? | 00:36:11 | |
So for the outdoor dining, I know a few meetings ago we talked about this, making sure there's room to go around the dining for | 00:36:14 | |
like ADA accessibility. So that's verified. If not, any problem with wheelchairs and stuff getting around that, specifically that | 00:36:20 | |
corner in the rendering of the building where the fence is. | 00:36:26 | |
Should be that top left corner on the corner right there. Obviously we can't see what that distance is, but I suppose there's | 00:36:37 | |
enough room. | 00:36:41 | |
Yeah, that's a good concern. | 00:36:45 | |
Yeah. And I think that will come more along with the the tenant permits, correct for the as far as when they have to go through | 00:36:48 | |
their approvals for that, I'm assuming that will be addressed at that time. | 00:36:53 | |
I mean now is is when we could attach that that detail. I think the things appropriateness iPhone application is in my opinion OK. | 00:37:02 | |
Yeah. | 00:37:14 | |
Steve Hutchings, Excellent. Can you go back to the site plan? | 00:37:16 | |
So we were talking today about sorry I lost my voice the other day. If you could scroll on to the top building there, that N | 00:37:21 | |
building. | 00:37:25 | |
We were talking about moving that that crosswalk slightly down just to by just a little bit more room for Ada on that side with | 00:37:30 | |
given that that was a a plan for a outdoor dining so that that ramp just right on the right side of the screen there that could | 00:37:38 | |
come down to more feet or so just to provide enough room for that cool. So. | 00:37:46 | |
So, yeah, we're already in discussion. So thanks for that question. | 00:37:56 | |
Any other questions? | 00:38:05 | |
I don't, but we are in a public hearing, so I think we've got some. | 00:38:08 | |
Yes, my name is Donna Hurlton. I'm a resident. I noticed there's a lot of areas where like the crosswalks are that appear to be | 00:38:11 | |
brick or a different sort of material. I was wondering if those would be raised. I know a lot of the times when I'm walking in an | 00:38:18 | |
area with with a brick type of area where if it's the same level as the as the asphalt, I don't really notice any difference in | 00:38:25 | |
cars, whereas they tend to slow down more if it's it's raised up a little bit. | 00:38:31 | |
All I gotta say about that is that it's it's a. Yeah, it's a good comment. It's not expressly a requirement for the code. The code | 00:38:40 | |
simply states that a stamped or different cheating material needs to be provided. | 00:38:47 | |
So. | 00:38:56 | |
Yeah, that's just something to consider, I guess. | 00:38:57 | |
I can make another comment. So we're, we're aiming to have uniformity throughout our center. We're trying to keep it at grade. It | 00:39:01 | |
helps with the stacking and so forth. And and it's also more visually appealing as well. So we're trying to keep that at grade. | 00:39:09 | |
Who's honestly, by the way, and just in regards to speak on that, typically with those areas where you have the raised crosswalks, | 00:39:21 | |
especially with the way for them to be effective is that they're like speed tables and speed table is something that's really | 00:39:27 | |
wide. And so when cars are going over it, they're they're approaching it. Then in essence, what you can do is you can almost park | 00:39:32 | |
a car on top of it. | 00:39:38 | |
Areas like this doesn't really provide that type of. | 00:39:44 | |
Is it? It would not compliment this type of area. | 00:39:49 | |
Where you where you have cars are especially coming out of a drive through that would actually provide. | 00:39:53 | |
When there's good conflict and bad conflict, roundabouts are good conflict. Something like that would actually provide some bad | 00:40:00 | |
conflict as cars are trying to drive out. Like for example, I use a lighthearted example that when I go through a drive through, | 00:40:04 | |
one of the first things I look for is that they give me my food and I'm doing that while I'm driving out. And if I'm hitting a | 00:40:08 | |
bump I've had. | 00:40:12 | |
A different of mine. That guy. | 00:40:18 | |
Didn't was too distracted then coming out of drive through and he ended up playing his car, flipping his car over because he went | 00:40:21 | |
off off of Smokeworth on the thing but. | 00:40:26 | |
For example, it's already been built and when I ask for anything else but like for example the movie theater where you have large | 00:41:03 | |
volumes of people going through, you have a large stretch area. Something like that would be it would be a positive conflict. Or a | 00:41:08 | |
school, for example, that would be a positive conflict. | 00:41:13 | |
Thanks. Thank you. Any other public comments? | 00:41:19 | |
And if not, drive a motion to close the public hearing. | 00:41:23 | |
I move to close the public hearing second. | 00:41:28 | |
All in favor, aye? | 00:41:32 | |
All right, umm, any other questions? | 00:41:35 | |
If not, do I have a motion? | 00:41:40 | |
Yeah, Brian, could you read that I. | 00:41:43 | |
Just for the record, one more time today. | 00:41:47 | |
The two foot or barrier buffer that you drafted up, yeah. So that didn't really change it the landscaping, but we could say how | 00:41:50 | |
can we say this generally like a physical barrier or? | 00:41:57 | |
Physical barrier. | 00:42:07 | |
A landscaping buffer or a physical barrier of at least. | 00:42:11 | |
Providing 2 to 3. | 00:42:16 | |
I. | 00:42:34 | |
I. | 00:43:06 | |
As we mentioned for a general SO, a landscaping buffer or physical barrier shall be provided to protect the sidewalk on the South | 00:43:19 | |
side of the project area. | 00:43:23 | |
Sounds good so. | 00:43:28 | |
OK. Thanks for It's open enough to staff, the staff can work with that. | 00:43:30 | |
Yeah. So with that, I moved to approve the site plan and conditional use permit as requested by Carla Mata with 50 Mil LLC with | 00:43:34 | |
the four proposed conditions that we reviewed with staff and then the additional one that was just read about the barrier on the | 00:43:40 | |
South side. | 00:43:46 | |
I second the motion. | 00:43:55 | |
All in favor. | 00:43:57 | |
Aye, all right. | 00:43:58 | |
Moving on to thank you guys. Yeah, have a good one. | 00:44:01 | |
Moving on to 4.3 site plan application for the Vineyard properties of Utah. | 00:44:05 | |
Do we need to roll call on that one? | 00:44:14 | |
OK, only, only on ordinances, right? I need that. | 00:44:18 | |
You're good question. OK. So this project is the Mill Road Industrial Park Building 7 and 8. | 00:44:23 | |
The applicant, Christopher Keffer with Vineyard Properties of Utah, is requesting approval of a site plan for building 78 of the | 00:44:33 | |
future Mill Road Industrial Park. These buildings will form part of a larger 8 building industrial complex. The buildings are to | 00:44:39 | |
be located approximately at Mill Road and 1600 N. | 00:44:44 | |
The property is owned flex office, industrial, is unestablished to foster economic development and established employment centers. | 00:44:51 | |
These buildings are basically going to be warehouse and offices. And in terms of design, the buildings are relatively identical | 00:44:59 | |
with a few differentiating features and they both measure approximately or not approximately 88,560 square feet. | 00:45:07 | |
This project does require that Metal Rd. be extended southward from 1600 N to meet the end of this property. The new city is | 00:45:16 | |
coordinating this extension of Mill Rd. with the property owner, Martin Snow. In addition, allotment adjustment must first be | 00:45:22 | |
completed before any building permit applications are accepted for this project. Post site plan approval because the. Basically | 00:45:29 | |
the lot lines that are showing. | 00:45:35 | |
Shown here in this map do not exactly match the lot lines that are. | 00:45:41 | |
Depicted within the site plan application. So there needs to be that alignment that takes place. The site measures 10, | 00:45:46 | |
approximately 10 acres in size. | 00:45:52 | |
So here are the buildings. There's two sets of elevations and they basically show different articulations in the roof lines | 00:45:59 | |
basically between one building to the other. So this this elevation is very similar to what we did in Lot 5 in Eastlake. And | 00:46:07 | |
here's a small change in the variations that I mentioned. | 00:46:15 | |
In terms of materials and surface details, each side of the building has been currently designed and treated. | 00:46:25 | |
A lot of variations and thorns, textures, materials, modulation of light and shade and color. The buildings are done with a | 00:46:30 | |
combination of materials including cement, metal trims, and flashings. These buildings have been customized to fit the aesthetic | 00:46:36 | |
of the Vimic community using finishes that reflect the color, style, and quality of the community particularly. | 00:46:43 | |
The East Lake Industrial Park and all colors are subdued earth tones and do not contrast with naturally occurring colors. In terms | 00:46:49 | |
of massing, there's an event where we work closely with the applicants. The applicant has incorporated articulation within the | 00:46:56 | |
building facades, providing recessed wall plans, variation in color variations, and roofline design and roof overhangs. | 00:47:03 | |
Fenestration also adds also aids and breaking up the building's massing. | 00:47:09 | |
As I said before, building 7 differs slightly. Differs slightly from 8IN color and roof articulation details. | 00:47:17 | |
In terms of visual interests and attractiveness, the applicant has provided 2 sizable areas on the bottom corners of the buildings | 00:47:23 | |
for users to gather and to recreate. | 00:47:27 | |
These areas contain benches and BBQ pits and it's a pretty nice addition to the project site. So I'm going to show you the site | 00:47:34 | |
plan where that's at. | 00:47:39 | |
So those two areas I'm talking about are located right here and then another one directly across this drive aisle over here. | 00:47:46 | |
No significant views of mountains or lake are being interrupted. | 00:47:57 | |
By mechanical equipment is being concealed behind the parapet walls of the building and all elements and the size of the | 00:48:03 | |
pedestrian level will achieve a human sense of scale and create visual interest at eye level. | 00:48:08 | |
In terms of circulation and traffic, this project integrates pretty well with the future pedestrian and vehicular infrastructure | 00:48:16 | |
along Mill Rd. in the future of 1400 N to the South. | 00:48:21 | |
Bathroom access has been provided along the public right of way and throughout the site, cheerful attention was given to areas | 00:48:26 | |
where pedestrians would likely interface with moving vehicles, and the site plan shows a lot of. | 00:48:32 | |
Safe features for constant pedestrian animals There's a lot of crosswalks and many platforms for the best chance to get safety | 00:48:39 | |
across the parking lots and into the site. | 00:48:44 | |
The there's an interconnected system for ADA and predestined circulation which has been provided in around the site. | 00:48:50 | |
In regards to building orientation, so we're building entrances have been oriented toward Mill Rd. the major thoroughfare that | 00:48:59 | |
will traverse this area once completed and where most pedestrian or vehicular traffic will flow from. | 00:49:05 | |
In the investor in the FOI district, applicants only need to have 5% of the site to be open space. The applicant has provided 13% | 00:49:13 | |
of the site as open space. | 00:49:18 | |
And accessible interconnected system of passive and active open spaces have been provided. The various open spaces throughout the | 00:49:24 | |
site are accessible from all points of the site basically, and building configuration provides areas of sizable open spaces for | 00:49:29 | |
the public to gather. | 00:49:35 | |
In terms of parking lot and building lighting, all areas are intended for, all areas intended for parking shall be adequately | 00:49:43 | |
eliminated during nine hours. The applicant must submit a photometric plan to establish that all areas of the parking lots have | 00:49:49 | |
been adequately lit. So that's one document that we are still waiting to receive from the applicant. And in terms of setbacks, all | 00:49:55 | |
the setbacks are met. | 00:50:02 | |
Let's talk about parking and loading. | 00:50:09 | |
All the parking aisle and star dimensions are not for the code. 231 total parking space has been provided and only 221 were | 00:50:12 | |
required. Five. They made the 5% of dispersed into your landscaping within the parking lot. 1288 parking. 88 required. Parking | 00:50:20 | |
sales have been provided even though only seven were required for the code. | 00:50:28 | |
There's two of them accessible parking stalls. | 00:50:37 | |
And the code required 22 bicycle style on parking styles and we provided 24 which will be the inverted U design. | 00:50:41 | |
And the applicant, all the other bicycle parking cells are provided on each of the building entrances, which I thought was a | 00:50:54 | |
really cool feature because it makes it really accessible for those bikes to get in and out of the out of the building and park | 00:51:00 | |
conveniently next to those entrances. The applicant has made sure that all areas where there's potential for for pedestrian | 00:51:06 | |
interfacing vehicles have been clearly demarcated and distinguished and there is no parking space on the site that is more than | 00:51:12 | |
150 feet. | 00:51:18 | |
From a clearly marked walk over the utility entrance. | 00:51:23 | |
In terms of landslipping improvements, the landscaping complements the architecture of the buildings, provides the general | 00:51:28 | |
interest and variety, provides 3 elements for all parking lots. The landscaping provides year on verification and brings up the | 00:51:35 | |
natural landscaping and highlights building features. The plants are all in in line with the Venetian Landscape Manual. | 00:51:43 | |
When a site plan for buildings one to four is submitted in the future, the applicant shall address incorporating a landscaping | 00:51:51 | |
buffer between those buildings and the regional commercial zone to the north. | 00:51:58 | |
All the plans selected are drought tolerant and appropriate to our landscaping code and the developer is proposing a series of | 00:52:06 | |
water wise plants, trees and chubs, appropriate chart, climate and ground cover. Ground covers include a variation of of crushed | 00:52:13 | |
rock mulch. There are no prohibited plants that are being proposed per the manual. | 00:52:20 | |
There is also no turf or sod proposed as part of this plan. | 00:52:29 | |
They provided an attractive public streetscape design along the future Mill Road Ext. | 00:52:36 | |
And all the trees are trench caliper and other shoves are 55 gallon in size. They're treating their storm water through a series | 00:52:46 | |
of underground underground storm water detention systems on on the West side of building. | 00:52:53 | |
On east side building 7. On the West side of building 8, they do propose a single monument. | 00:53:01 | |
Single monument, official sign, but they understand that that that signage is to be reviewed through a separate sign permit. That | 00:53:09 | |
sign also does not interrupt any of the view triangles coming in and out of that drive aisle. | 00:53:16 | |
So staff recommends approval of the site plan provided the song of missions are met. So I have 9 conditions I. | 00:53:25 | |
You're good actually phasing out some fees and make some red run directions. The applicant is subject to all federal, state and | 00:53:35 | |
local laws. Before the applicant is allowed to proceed with the billing from the application, they must have a remedy lot line | 00:53:41 | |
adjustment or amended final plot recorded at the Utah Recorder's Office to create the partials proposed within the site plan | 00:53:47 | |
application For each elevation visible from the public or private St. A minimum of five a minimum 5 foot plan date plantation | 00:53:53 | |
area. | 00:53:59 | |
Be provided and to be fair, I think they have done that. It just doesn't show consistently throughout the plan site. So in their | 00:54:05 | |
site plan, I believe it shows it and then in the landscaping plan it does not show if that's what 5 foot foundation planting area. | 00:54:11 | |
So if that can be consistent through a plant set, that's what we'd like to see. | 00:54:18 | |
Before it happens, we're not to apply for the billing permit. They must have been for the metric plan that indicates that adequate | 00:54:26 | |
land shall be provided in all parking areas, with emphasis placed on appropriate lighting at entrances and exits. The fore metric | 00:54:32 | |
plan shall also show that life from the site does not cause a negative impact on adjacent buildings and properties. | 00:54:37 | |
Here is Commission #6 the applicant must adjust the required parking calculations in their site plan set so they they have | 00:54:44 | |
different pages. This is again a consistency concern. Just they should be consistent in what what the parking correct parking | 00:54:51 | |
parking calculations are which are 220 spaces required, total spaces required, and 788 spaces required. I think the gifts differ | 00:54:57 | |
from one planet to the other. | 00:55:03 | |
The small shrub burn on the southern premier of the site. | 00:55:10 | |
Along what was it 1400 N must also measure 36 inches in height as the one required along the road. The applicant shall remove any | 00:55:16 | |
invasive species, if any, from the true legends and vegetation legend. And I play some with something that is appropriate in the | 00:55:23 | |
Tree Landscape manual. And then all trees shall be minimum of 2 inch caliper in size and all shubs shall be a minimum of five | 00:55:31 | |
gallon in size. | 00:55:38 | |
Those are all the commissions. | 00:55:46 | |
Thank you. | 00:55:49 | |
Any questions? | 00:55:51 | |
I have a question. I have a question about the the road again. So in this site plan it shows the entrance on the West which would | 00:55:54 | |
go on the extended Mill Rd. | 00:56:00 | |
But then there's also an entrance on the South. | 00:56:06 | |
But that 1400 N is a future Rd. so would there just be one in and out for both buildings off of Mill Rd. | 00:56:10 | |
Is that what's being proposed? | 00:56:17 | |
Sorry, where Morgan? | 00:56:24 | |
Oh. | 00:56:28 | |
For this for this development, I think there's one here. | 00:56:31 | |
In the middle it doesn't about 1600 N It looks like for this one there was one other. | 00:56:37 | |
And she that shows there's basically 4 similar projects. Yeah, let me pull up that master landscape plan. Sorry. | 00:56:44 | |
Yeah, right there. Here we go. | 00:56:53 | |
So I'm just wondering, is the only in and out the Mill Road or are they extending to that 14th period? | 00:56:56 | |
North as well. | 00:57:02 | |
Right now what they're showing is that I mean, and I think this would be a good time for the applicant if you want to come into | 00:57:05 | |
the microphone. | 00:57:08 | |
To to to do some back and forth, but right now we're only proposing the one entrance to Mill Rd. | 00:57:13 | |
To respond, you need to be in the microphone. | 00:57:19 | |
Yeah, this is not part of the. | 00:57:29 | |
Grayed out. | 00:57:33 | |
My name is Chris. So on this map you see the word about buildings that's supposed to be part of the. | 00:57:40 | |
OK. So that would that would be in there. So another inference right there. | 00:57:50 | |
And this is also going to be. | 00:57:53 | |
Right now, so you guys already approved the Boyer project. This is how they're going to get to their to their site because they | 00:57:57 | |
have no. | 00:58:02 | |
Way to get to their site without no Rd. being built so they need access. | 00:58:07 | |
To get to their lot as well. So we're working with them help them gain that access. | 00:58:12 | |
Through the development of Mill Rd. | 00:58:20 | |
So just to reiterate, everything here in white is accurate. Yeah. And then additionally to this, that's part of the, yeah, still | 00:58:23 | |
have two entrances in and out and then eventually three, one 1400, it's about it. Thanks. | 00:58:31 | |
That's my only question, Brian. | 00:58:41 | |
In the introduction you talked about this being a warehouse in office type configuration with warehouses normally come semi | 00:58:45 | |
trucks. So are we anticipating a fairly high volume of of semis there and and adequate turnaround space and backing up the loading | 00:58:54 | |
docks and all of that? I just don't see that detail, but it may be there, right? Yeah, I think we would expect. | 00:59:02 | |
A good volume of that coming through, but I would encourage the applicant if they could. | 00:59:12 | |
Address that issue as well. | 00:59:17 | |
My name is Gil Rand, I'm the architect on the project if I can stick over here. | 00:59:23 | |
Can you hear him all right if he's over there? | 00:59:30 | |
One second. | 00:59:33 | |
Yeah, yeah, there's some slack in that cord. | 00:59:35 | |
All right, I'm talking about. | 00:59:52 | |
Space between the buildings. | 00:59:56 | |
That space is almost 200 feet wide, so trucks can. | 01:00:01 | |
Come in here then there are loading dots. | 01:00:06 | |
All along in between. | 01:00:10 | |
And so the trucks can come in, they have plenty of room to maneuver to to back into the loading docks and then to move, be able to | 01:00:13 | |
come out. | 01:00:16 | |
As well. So there this this is then we've done projects similar to this. We're using the same dimensions and things basically | 01:00:22 | |
we've had on other projects that have worked very, very well. | 01:00:27 | |
So will the trucks be competing with vehicular traffic entering and exiting as well? Will they be using this really kind of | 01:00:33 | |
separated at least well? | 01:00:38 | |
This would be the for vehicular access to the property and then obviously they can come around to this area here, which is | 01:00:44 | |
vehicular trucks I'm seeing would come in here and utilize this and until 1400 N is in the trucks will go back out that way as | 01:00:51 | |
well. Yeah, I just, I anticipated some conflict between trucks and cars. So if that's anticipated to divide it, that would be | 01:00:59 | |
great. And I think that's pretty much how it's going to work and. | 01:01:06 | |
Whole project gets developed. | 01:01:13 | |
Then there are. | 01:01:17 | |
You have your vehicular traffic all in this middle area and truck traffic can come in also from up there and from there. And so | 01:01:20 | |
they're pretty much separated. There are places where they will cross, but other than that and that the trucks are in one area and | 01:01:27 | |
vehicles in another that help. Any other questions about that? No, that that's my question there. | 01:01:35 | |
Now, well they're also do we also anticipate some light industrial manufacturing type activity. | 01:01:44 | |
Be in addition to this warehousing and offices, will there be some assembling and building going on in the buildings? I think the | 01:01:50 | |
code would allow them to do that, but they put the plans and support that have been submitted. They haven't outlined that that | 01:01:57 | |
would be a part of this, of these two buildings at least. So that just depends on the tenant. We build those, we build the shell | 01:02:04 | |
and then the tenant says, hey, we want this. So the Lot 5, which we're working on right now, E Lake lot 5. | 01:02:11 | |
Neutral cost. | 01:02:19 | |
Is running out both those buildings. So then we're building out according to their needs, clean rooms, mixing rooms, etcetera, | 01:02:21 | |
etcetera. So it just depends on the tenant what they need, if they need our warehousing and just a small office space or if they | 01:02:28 | |
need more office and less warehousing depending on their needs, we build to accommodate the tenants that are moving in. So, so we | 01:02:35 | |
do anticipate some some light industrial type of work there. It's possible, but it just depends on the tenant like. | 01:02:43 | |
So when we build it, we have no idea who's going to move in until after they do move in. | 01:02:51 | |
We have taken the approach for parking that is kind of a mix because if you have manufacturing that's more requires more parking | 01:02:57 | |
and so we've got kind of got a mix for the about half of it could be manufacturing, the other half could be strictly warehouse. | 01:03:05 | |
Those are my questions. Any other questions, Chris, OK. | 01:03:14 | |
No. All right. If so, do I have a mountain? | 01:03:22 | |
Maureen, you wanted to state an additional, I'm going to say I would add a condition that the the phasing plan be be updated to | 01:03:27 | |
show which roads are going to be built with with this project. I just think that that that's important to have an in our record. | 01:03:34 | |
So is there a? | 01:03:43 | |
So what is that the anticipated phasing of the in the in the overall master plan that they're providing here? They're just getting | 01:03:44 | |
approval for site plan tonight for those two buildings. What I'm saying is that they update the master plan that was submitted | 01:03:50 | |
with the application to show which elements of the infrastructures, which roads are going to be built. Because right now they're | 01:03:56 | |
just showing their site. You know, I think it'd be a more complete application. It would help us out. So right now we have no | 01:04:02 | |
information on the exact phase. | 01:04:08 | |
We know just from conversations, but we would like it as part of the record, so. | 01:04:14 | |
All right. Well, I am ready to put forward a motion. I move to approve the site plan application as requested by Christopher | 01:04:25 | |
Kephart with Vineyard Properties of Utah with the proposed 9 conditions that were read by Brian and also adding the condition to | 01:04:32 | |
update the infrastructure master plan showing. | 01:04:38 | |
Which roads will go in with this project? | 01:04:46 | |
Do you have a second? A second? All in favor? | 01:04:50 | |
Hi, alright. Thank you guys. | 01:04:53 | |
Moving on to thank you guys. | 01:04:56 | |
Looks great. Moving on to 4.4 City initiated site plan application for public works. | 01:04:58 | |
Chris Wilson, Public Works Director We earlier this year, in the in last year's fiscal budget, we approved some office additions | 01:05:15 | |
in the newly constructed public works building. There was some changes and suggestions. | 01:05:24 | |
That have been brought forward by the mayor and she's. | 01:05:33 | |
We've gone through a process of purchasing a mobile classroom and placing it up there at the public works site for the four | 01:05:38 | |
additional office space. So. | 01:05:44 | |
Attached you'll see here on the screen the Public Works site. This classroom will be placed on the South side of the building and | 01:05:51 | |
renovated there to provide that additional workspace. | 01:05:59 | |
There's a few it's just a basic classroom. This was a used classroom purchased through from that was used by the Alpine School | 01:06:08 | |
District purchased through Arm City. It will it'll as you can see now, it'll be placed on that South side. There's a an existing. | 01:06:16 | |
Temporary office trailer there that will be removed and. | 01:06:26 | |
You can Scroll down a little bit more Brian to the pictures to get an idea of what that classroom looks like. It's pretty, pretty | 01:06:33 | |
basic standard. | 01:06:38 | |
Keep going down South that that's where it's at on site now. So just to raise with a skirting on a a some ramps and steps going up | 01:06:46 | |
to it. We'll face the doors towards the to the north towards the building. So we'll have access to go between the two facilities, | 01:06:55 | |
restrooms and break room facilities, all the utilized in the building that's already. | 01:07:04 | |
Just wanted to present this to the Planning Commission so you're aware of the intentions of what's going on. This will be moved | 01:07:16 | |
out on site this weekend. It was kind of a rushed, well, we, we had it reserved to move for a few months now, but to be put on | 01:07:24 | |
this location came that direction came within the last few, the last week or week and 1/2. | 01:07:32 | |
But wanted to keep everybody in the loop so you're aware of what was being. | 01:07:40 | |
But being done there. So if you have any questions I'm happy to answer. Really this is the. | 01:07:45 | |
Most I know at this point of what you know, the next steps of use of this property is besides the the projects that are going on | 01:07:53 | |
the tank and such. So if I can answer any of those, I'd be great. If not, just do you know how temporary it is. | 01:08:01 | |
No, I mean it may be more long term, like temporary 5-10 years. | 01:08:11 | |
It all depends on on budget and what it allows us to build a more permanent facility. And Chris, quick, where is the current | 01:08:16 | |
Heritage Commission storage facility in comparison with where this is? Yeah, I'm just trying to look. | 01:08:25 | |
So yeah, it's just no, no, no, no, yeah, if if you go, it's just above where this page is cut off at. | 01:08:36 | |
I'll pull up the public base map to show. | 01:08:45 | |
I can barely see. | 01:08:51 | |
Yeah. | 01:09:01 | |
Start. | 01:09:04 | |
OK. | 01:09:14 | |
So you can see there's a right where your cursors to the left. | 01:09:15 | |
I am just left down and that's where the that storage unit is. | 01:09:19 | |
Thank you. | 01:09:26 | |
So it would be considerably. | 01:09:28 | |
Correct, correct. | 01:09:30 | |
So I do think it's kind of funny that the city was talking about how this is the entrance to the city and what it needs to look | 01:09:35 | |
all pretty. And then we spent $85,000 to make the wall on the water tower look pretty even though it's going to be fully blocked. | 01:09:42 | |
And then we're putting this building in. Kind of funny to me, but that's why Chris said temporary. | 01:09:49 | |
10/5 to 10/10 years is going to be beautiful. | 01:09:57 | |
Just turning it out, I wasn't like, I'm fine with this because I wasn't fine. I was fine with the wall. | 01:10:01 | |
Not having some $85,000 fancy design on it, so just saying. Just pointing it out. | 01:10:06 | |
And is it on the South side just for the entrance, the easy back and forth? Yeah. And also so if we ever extend that building or | 01:10:12 | |
expand the the permanent structure that we would, we would want to expand it to the north to. | 01:10:19 | |
Exactly. | 01:10:28 | |
Yeah, makes sense. And of course, we're still hoping at some point on that water storage facility that's alongside the rail. | 01:10:29 | |
Then we'll be able to use that as a mural, correct? Historical depiction of mural for 300 feet or something. They made it a lot | 01:10:38 | |
smaller. Yeah, there's going to be 10. | 01:10:43 | |
Yeah, yeah. No, so we got to get Don on there too in that Planning Commission. When we approved the not doing the thing on the | 01:10:51 | |
side, they turned that over into the City Council. So that's why I wanted to bring it up, because they turned over what we decided | 01:10:58 | |
here in the Planning Commission and now they want an ugly building in front, so. | 01:11:05 | |
Yeah, yeah. I have a motion or any questions? | 01:11:14 | |
Going to add a facade on this building, yeah? | 01:11:18 | |
No more questions for me, All right. Do I have a motion? | 01:11:22 | |
Yeah, I can make a motion. I move to approve the city initiated site plan application as discussed. | 01:11:28 | |
Do I have a second? | 01:11:34 | |
All right, that's Tim all in favor, aye. All right, moving into work Session 5.1 moderate income housing plan update. | 01:11:36 | |
That is this paper, that is. | 01:11:51 | |
Of everybody. | 01:11:53 | |
Brian, again, so these are the, I just want to outline the requirements of House Bill 462 and through this bill, basically the | 01:11:55 | |
state is requiring that all municipalities update their moderate income housing plans and ours is basically outlined within the | 01:12:01 | |
general plan within the modern income housing element or chapter of the general plan. | 01:12:08 | |
These updates, in line with the requirements, are due this year October the 1st, 2022. | 01:12:17 | |
And the report that is to be attached with this will require outlines of each of our modern compiling strategies and an | 01:12:24 | |
implementation plan and timeline for each strategy. | 01:12:30 | |
Because Vineyard now has a fixed guideway public transportation station AKA Vineyard Frontrunner Station, which is opening soon, | 01:12:38 | |
Vineyard is required to select five strategies from the strategies outlined in State Code 10 Dash 98403, General Plan preparation. | 01:12:46 | |
Municipalities that meet the above requirement and adopt. | 01:12:54 | |
Two additional strategies may receive priority consideration for funding. | 01:13:03 | |
From from TIFF, from TTIS and from COVID-19 Local Assistance Matching program. So in the very least we have to get 5 to meet the | 01:13:07 | |
state requirement. | 01:13:14 | |
But we want to be able to get the additional consideration for funding, so our aim is to get the seven. | 01:13:22 | |
Our next steps are to identify what strategies we're currently meeting or working on, and then we have to select, with your help, | 01:13:29 | |
commissioners, the additional strategies to meet the minimum requirement and hopefully qualify for that. | 01:13:35 | |
Grant consideration. | 01:13:44 | |
So I pointed out and left in front of you the the, I think it's 24 strategies that are outlined within that state code that's | 01:13:46 | |
referenced. | 01:13:51 | |
Yeah, 83X. So is that 24? | 01:13:58 | |
Two fewer than 26. OK, there you go. So. | 01:14:01 | |
Yeah. So if you guys want to just look through here. | 01:14:07 | |
And then following and and proceeding Planning Commission meeting in the next meeting will kind of continue this conversation | 01:14:11 | |
because this this really is a pressing matter for us with that October 1st deadline. In speaking with Morgan, the community | 01:14:18 | |
Development director, he feels like we're basically already doing A, which is and a few others. So a is rezoned for densities | 01:14:24 | |
necessary to facilitate the production of modern income housing. | 01:14:30 | |
E which is creator allow for and reduce regulations related to internal or detached accessory going units and residential zoning. | 01:14:37 | |
F which is zone or rezone for higher density of or moderate income residential development and commercial and mixed-use zones near | 01:14:46 | |
major transit investment corridors. Other definitions around this because I mean, we got ourselves into the same issue with the | 01:14:54 | |
general plan, just saying like high medium, like it doesn't, it's all relative, right? So is there anything defined? | 01:15:02 | |
They keep it pretty general. I think they're talking more about multi family housing. But overall we have like up zoned areas. | 01:15:10 | |
There's the click farm and we provided that 55 plus. | 01:15:14 | |
Community that's detached housing, but they're smaller lots, so I think that that would count as well. | 01:15:21 | |
Other definitions over income like this is moderate income, Yeah, there are definitions for. Yeah, yeah, there are. Because I | 01:15:26 | |
think it's important as we make decisions on future development that we also. | 01:15:32 | |
Explicitly tie it to these things and explain. | 01:15:40 | |
We're asked or in some cases required to do this, but doing this also helps open up grants and, you know, future development or, | 01:15:44 | |
you know, whatever, whatever it might be. | 01:15:49 | |
So yeah, I think we just need to I think that's part of the transparency process is just explaining the thought process behind | 01:15:57 | |
some of these decisions that are made and what's intended when when you rezone or change zoning or whatever it might be. Just | 01:16:04 | |
wanted to note that exactly. And Anthony, we have to be able to put that together in a well written report to the state. So, yeah, | 01:16:12 | |
so I mean, I guess I don't, I don't really want to read through all of them, but we have good arguments for. | 01:16:19 | |
That were that were working on a EF if you guys want to write these down. | 01:16:27 | |
A EFGH. | 01:16:34 | |
RV and W. | 01:16:39 | |
That's great. And we've also. | 01:16:42 | |
RV and W Yeah. | 01:16:47 | |
So yeah, once you guys get a chance to read these, you know, we can convene again in in the next Planning Commission meeting and | 01:16:50 | |
we kind of discuss your thoughts on this and kind of the direction that you guys feel with us to move forward in. | 01:16:58 | |
So we'll just have a follow up work session with this. Is there anything else that? | 01:17:07 | |
Yeah. And but we believe we actually need eight of those. And so anyway, if you want to go through, especially the ones that we | 01:17:16 | |
pointed out those eight, what we'll do is we'll start drafting the the general plan and we'll probably move forward with those | 01:17:23 | |
eight. We'll bring it back to you to to, to discuss further if you want. There's other items, you know there's. | 01:17:30 | |
Probably another six or seven that would be fun to to work on, you know, whether or not we used to need to and that's up for | 01:17:38 | |
question. But I think just look through those if you feel like some of those are items that could really help the city or were | 01:17:44 | |
basically there, I mean we we could add those as well. | 01:17:49 | |
How does the state define moderate income housing or is it just those nebulous terms also? No, they're, they're defined. I'm | 01:17:55 | |
trying to moderate income, I believe is the 80% tile of the AMI, the area medium income, Right. And is it a percentage of that for | 01:18:04 | |
like a monthly payment? Yeah, exactly. I think is it 30%? Yeah. So 30% of the of someone making 80%. | 01:18:12 | |
AMI you know of their income would be dedicated to housing so keeping it under the rent or the mortgage? | 01:18:21 | |
My question would be. | 01:18:29 | |
It'd be interesting to know where already qualifies or if there's anywhere in Vineyard that qualifies as moderate income housing. | 01:18:32 | |
Yes, we have nothing. My guess is nothing in Vineyard currently is. So there's there's different ways that there's market rate | 01:18:39 | |
right now. That's basically where we meet the moderate income housing. It's not being restricted. And so that that's kind of the | 01:18:46 | |
higher level of regulation or policy is getting into actually DD restricting things. So you have. | 01:18:54 | |
Controls or you have you know, if it's a for sale product that that basically the sale of that can't, can't be more than whatever | 01:19:02 | |
the those standard thresholds are. And there's potential of doing that with new development. But once stuff is built, it's hard to | 01:19:09 | |
go back and get restrict unless the city or working with a partner housing group, we were able to go in and purchase existing | 01:19:16 | |
units and then. | 01:19:23 | |
Deed restrict those, but we need more staff from a. | 01:19:30 | |
From just the current market conditions because we have so much high density and, and you know, apartment units and those things. | 01:19:35 | |
But over this next year and probably next, not this year, but next year, we'll, we'll bring more in depth housing study. We'll | 01:19:42 | |
probably hire a housing consultant who does nothing but the stuff to have them analyze our current housing stock. And then we'll | 01:19:49 | |
work for opportunities of, of where we can can up our game in the, you know. | 01:19:56 | |
The low to moderate income housing. There are several other brackets too. There's the 3050% AMI. | 01:20:03 | |
You know, I mean, there's, there's a lot of other numbers, the 30% AMI that's actually an important one to to consider as well, | 01:20:09 | |
because that's the, that's basically providing housing for people who are right at the cost of, of being homeless. And so, you | 01:20:14 | |
know, I think that's your. | 01:20:20 | |
I can't remember the category is, but it's poverty, yeah. And so, yeah. And there are those folks in our community as well. So | 01:20:26 | |
having a more dynamic approach to housing, we're we're going to need to to do that and we're looking at probably next year where | 01:20:32 | |
we'll be able to put some funds towards that. | 01:20:37 | |
All right, cool. Yeah, if you could bring those numbers here. | 01:20:44 | |
The beach kind of give us an idea that would be, yeah. | 01:20:47 | |
Right. | 01:20:52 | |
Moving to commit a member and staff report and expertise especially. | 01:20:55 | |
Anything from the Commission? | 01:21:00 | |
And so really, I think I think I'll probably explain a couple times. I'll do it here and there. But if you, if you do me with a, a | 01:21:04 | |
developer, usually it's not we've always kind of looked at the Planning Commission because you're appointed, you're not really a | 01:21:10 | |
group that should be lobbied it, it can happen. But this is the opportunity for you to say like XI don't understand that AB or C | 01:21:16 | |
developer. | 01:21:21 | |
Public works, you know, took me to launch and we talked about this or that. So it's an opportunity for you to be transparent. | 01:21:28 | |
Or, you know, my brother is investing, you know, or I have stock in, you know, this, this development group and they're building. | 01:21:36 | |
So it's your, it's your opportunity to be transparent with the public. So alright. | 01:21:42 | |
Just update, we're still working on quota plan. It looks really cool. We're going to have, we're going to be asking for some | 01:21:49 | |
public outreach real soon here. | 01:21:54 | |
But yeah, designs are coming together. It's it's going to be cool. Anything from staff. Yeah. And with that, we're going to be | 01:22:01 | |
having a Facebook Live event, I think at the beginning of next month. So we'll keep talking about that woman tonight again in the | 01:22:07 | |
next time of this meeting. | 01:22:13 | |
And social media posts will come out from the city about it, so we'd love to get more input. | 01:22:19 | |
Cool and then next Wednesday at 5:00 is a joint site visit with the City Council right So if you could make it please please try | 01:22:24 | |
your best to make it we're going to meet at the dead end of 300 WI sent you guys Oh I'm sorry 400 S did that ever it stops as it | 01:22:31 | |
goes into the hallway farms now Holyfield's development, but we'll park there and then we'll we'll walk over to the future E park | 01:22:39 | |
there's lots of silos some. | 01:22:46 | |
Structure structures, we know there's interest in trying to incorporate those into, into that park or into, you know, maybe future | 01:22:54 | |
parks. And so that, that's an opportunity for us to, to be on site for about 1/2 an hour and just talk with the council about | 01:23:00 | |
what, what we kind of envision using that park for. So you got to use your imagination because it's kind of hard on your hair, but | 01:23:06 | |
there there's some really neat structures and yeah, I think we can be creative and have, have a, you know, something that's really | 01:23:11 | |
beneficial to our city. | 01:23:17 | |
Cool. So Morgan, this is kind of a continuation of our walking around the same side here a few weeks ago. Well, so this will be an | 01:23:23 | |
official like Planning Commission, City Council, you know the the public's very welcome to come, just don't need to let let us | 01:23:30 | |
know probably beforehand. | 01:23:36 | |
So anyway. | 01:23:44 | |
Yeah, I did take a kind of a tour through there with Brian and Morgan and others. | 01:23:45 | |
Maybe 3 weeks ago or. | 01:23:52 | |
We identified quite a few implements that are still there on the property that we would love to take possession out and get and | 01:23:54 | |
have moved out of there. And we discovered a few silo, two or three silos that we didn't even know were there. So you can see 2 | 01:24:01 | |
pretty much that there are three other ones I think that are pretty cool that are there on the property and and there's a little | 01:24:07 | |
truck. | 01:24:13 | |
Probably 1930s forty truck. Yeah, we asked about that one. We heard, we were told by that the farmer who is leasing it right now | 01:24:21 | |
that that's already called for. Yeah. It's one of the family members that wants to restore it. Yeah. | 01:24:27 | |
But anyway, so there's some really neat things there that we hope to and the old grill barn to George looked at the barn and said | 01:24:35 | |
that essentially the barn needs to come down. It's not it's really, it would be more expensive to rehab than. But if we build | 01:24:41 | |
something similar to that, like we did a Community Center or something on the side, we could use a lot of the the the brick and | 01:24:47 | |
some of the material and incorporate that into the design. So you'd still have, you know, a modern structure that Harkins back to | 01:24:53 | |
the history of the site. It's like. | 01:24:59 | |
Kind of a fun, cool, a fun facility. All right, yo, we'll be there. | 01:25:05 | |
Yep, 5:00 in this park there in that dead end, and we'll walk over. | 01:25:12 | |
Yes, Yeah. That's good. That's good. | 01:25:21 | |
Yeah, exactly. | 01:25:24 | |
All right. Anything else? Nothing from staff. If that's it, then we will need an agenda. | 01:25:26 |