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| If that doesn't work, I can forward the invite. They're just got it. | 00:01:01 | |
| Cool guys ready? | 00:01:15 | |
| So welcome to. | 00:01:18 | |
| The Development Review Committee special session meeting, March 12th, 2026. | 00:01:22 | |
| Excuse me, the time is now. | 00:01:28 | |
| 902. | 00:01:31 | |
| And calling this into session. | 00:01:33 | |
| So. | 00:01:37 | |
| Whatever. | 00:01:40 | |
| That being said. | 00:01:42 | |
| Just want to take a roll call in terms of the individuals who are here. | 00:01:47 | |
| Minus the members of the public. | 00:01:52 | |
| On that. So let's start off to my. | 00:01:55 | |
| Military left Madison. | 00:01:57 | |
| Would you like to? | 00:01:59 | |
| Start off. | 00:02:01 | |
| Madison Reed. | 00:02:04 | |
| Planning Tech. | 00:02:05 | |
| Cashantium representing planning today. | 00:02:07 | |
| David Kyle representing the mayor. | 00:02:16 | |
| Brian Vaudrey, parks and rec director. | 00:02:19 | |
| In the same door. | 00:02:23 | |
| For the works engineering. | 00:02:25 | |
| Brandon Valley Orem Fire Department. | 00:02:27 | |
| Chris Johnson, building official. | 00:02:30 | |
| Patrick James, assistant city engineer. | 00:02:35 | |
| And the person who is excused is ants Anthony Fletcher, who is he is currently. | 00:02:37 | |
| Right there. | 00:02:43 | |
| He will be here soon. OK, so Anthony Fletcher is online. Who else do we have online? Nobody right now, but I believe Nate Birchall | 00:02:45 | |
| with. | 00:02:48 | |
| Hold away fields will be. | 00:02:53 | |
| Joining Remote OK Sweet to discuss their plot. | 00:02:54 | |
| All right, great. | 00:02:57 | |
| So that being said. | 00:02:59 | |
| Let me ask the question to. | 00:03:01 | |
| Mr. Cashancy, do we just want to jump into the consent items or do we want to go into our business items? | 00:03:04 | |
| We can do the consent item for well. | 00:03:10 | |
| I don't care. | 00:03:13 | |
| We could do 3.1, then the consent item and then 3.2. | 00:03:14 | |
| If that makes sense. | 00:03:18 | |
| That's fine, so let's just jump to. | 00:03:19 | |
| Our consent items 2.21. | 00:03:22 | |
| Our approval of January 22nd, 2026 Development Review Committee minutes. | 00:03:24 | |
| So this is. | 00:03:29 | |
| For those people who have any questions about the minutes, so. | 00:03:32 | |
| I'll go around. Is there anyone who has a question in regards to the minutes or any comments? | 00:03:36 | |
| All motion to approve the minutes as presented. I have a first on. | 00:03:41 | |
| Approval of the minutes to have a second. | 00:03:45 | |
| I second. | 00:03:48 | |
| Sorry, all right. That being said. | 00:03:50 | |
| No, all in favor for approving the minutes. | 00:03:53 | |
| Aye, aye. | 00:03:56 | |
| So everyone's approval on the minutes. | 00:03:58 | |
| So let's just jump down to and Cash. Will you be speaking on 3.1 or will Anthony be doing that one? | 00:04:00 | |
| I mean, I can we just. | 00:04:07 | |
| With it being a new year, I think this might be the first. | 00:04:09 | |
| Second DRC. We. | 00:04:12 | |
| We just need to. | 00:04:14 | |
| Hold an election of a chair and a vice chair for this body to move forward. | 00:04:16 | |
| The previous chair was the city manager and that position is taken by the mayor in this case. So we just have to do a reelection | 00:04:21 | |
| since the the city manager position technically held the chair. | 00:04:28 | |
| Eric was elected as the chair but was he's no longer with the city. We need to do new election. | 00:04:35 | |
| OK. So just as a reminder, the positions of the chair and vice chair and so forth is and then maybe Cash or Anthony can. | 00:04:40 | |
| So let me just go backtrack. So we're officially going into our Business Times 3.1 Chair and Vice Chair reelection. | 00:04:49 | |
| The So just for the members of the public, those who are. | 00:04:57 | |
| Attendance and those who are. | 00:05:03 | |
| Online, the committee will nominate and then elect a new chair and vice chair position for the remainder of the 2026 calendar. | 00:05:06 | |
| Count and we could go based on the calendar year. It's not physical years. | 00:05:14 | |
| How about this? | 00:05:18 | |
| If again, cash or Anthony or even Madison if you like. | 00:05:20 | |
| Just a quick summary in terms of. | 00:05:24 | |
| Maybe for members of the public, in terms of why this is a committee. | 00:05:26 | |
| Actual committee with the chairs and vice chairs. | 00:05:30 | |
| And correct me if I'm wrong and I'm you know I may be wrong but. | 00:05:33 | |
| The chair and vice chair, is it the person or is it the? | 00:05:37 | |
| Position Who's who's represent? | 00:05:41 | |
| Elected so. | 00:05:44 | |
| I'll say, is this a? | 00:05:46 | |
| I'm the vice chair. | 00:05:47 | |
| Myself specifically. | 00:05:48 | |
| And then I take honor roll of. | 00:05:50 | |
| You know. | 00:05:53 | |
| I don't know grounds maintenance technician. | 00:05:55 | |
| Because I that's my. | 00:05:59 | |
| Desire. | 00:06:01 | |
| To be a. | 00:06:03 | |
| You know. | 00:06:03 | |
| To go out and plant flowers. | 00:06:04 | |
| Do I still hold the vice chair position or does that position go to whoever becomes whoever decides to take my spot and Patrick | 00:06:08 | |
| don't have any? | 00:06:12 | |
| Ideas out there? | 00:06:16 | |
| But I guess that's that's that is I just want. | 00:06:17 | |
| Make sure that we all have the understanding of the actual. | 00:06:20 | |
| Formality of that. | 00:06:24 | |
| Yeah, I'll, I'll double check on the code on that, but I do believe it is the person and the position. | 00:06:25 | |
| So if you were to move to ground maintenance or something like that, we would hold a new election for that position. For me, for | 00:06:30 | |
| example, I'm just representing planning. I'm the code says the city planner or their designee. | 00:06:36 | |
| Right now we're working on filling that position of the city planner. So I'm just currently the designee. So I mean I. | 00:06:42 | |
| Couldn't be the chair vice chair in this? | 00:06:46 | |
| Instance. | 00:06:49 | |
| OK, that's my interpretation of it. I can double check the the code itself. | 00:06:50 | |
| Get back to you. | 00:06:55 | |
| Next week on that and then for those people here, the duties of the Chair and Vice Chair. | 00:06:57 | |
| Yeah, the the main purpose, the the main duty of the chair is just to help. | 00:07:02 | |
| Our department with the formation of the agenda, just to make sure that we're getting it published on time. | 00:07:06 | |
| It's also to help her on the meetings as you're doing now. | 00:07:11 | |
| That's pretty much it's a fairly informal position. The purpose of this body is is as state law requires, we need a body to an | 00:07:16 | |
| official body to approve Platts. | 00:07:21 | |
| And so an administrative body I should say that to approve plats. And so that's the purpose of the the formal. | 00:07:27 | |
| Body here. | 00:07:33 | |
| But then we've also used this, as you'll see today with Huntsman Cancer Institute, as a way for us to review development coming | 00:07:34 | |
| into the city. | 00:07:37 | |
| That way we can get everybody all eyes on on these applications as they come in and keep them moving forward and and hopefully | 00:07:41 | |
| I'll be on the same page as as these projects start developing in the city. | 00:07:46 | |
| OK, that's great. I appreciate that. And of course as always applicants out there current feature and. | 00:07:51 | |
| You know those are considering becoming an applicant to the city. We do have a pre app meeting. | 00:07:59 | |
| That is a courtesy to any. | 00:08:05 | |
| Person out there who has who has a desire to give feedback. | 00:08:07 | |
| An informal setting as well, so. | 00:08:10 | |
| I always encourage people to take advantage of the planners. | 00:08:13 | |
| Pre application meetings. | 00:08:16 | |
| Just to yeah, absolutely. | 00:08:18 | |
| For that less formal setting and also. | 00:08:19 | |
| You know, as a city. | 00:08:22 | |
| You know we're here to help. | 00:08:24 | |
| And we're here to provide. | 00:08:25 | |
| Feedback as we can. | 00:08:26 | |
| All right, with that being said, let's just jump into this chair and Vice chair reelection. | 00:08:28 | |
| Out there so if there's anyone else who has questions in regards to. | 00:08:33 | |
| The formalities or. | 00:08:38 | |
| The roles, responsibilities, you know. | 00:08:41 | |
| Go. I'll leave that to you, but if not, I can always. | 00:08:44 | |
| Technology we can. | 00:08:48 | |
| I hear nominations. | 00:08:49 | |
| Quiet. | 00:08:59 | |
| I'd like to nominate Nassim Gandhar as. | 00:09:01 | |
| Commission Chair. | 00:09:05 | |
| Lucky you. | 00:09:10 | |
| I'll second the motion. | 00:09:13 | |
| Thanks, nomination. All right. Are we doing chairs and then Vice chair? Are we doing? Sure, let's do chairman, vice, you decide. | 00:09:14 | |
| I decide great. | 00:09:22 | |
| All right. Well, that being said, we have a nominee for Vice Chair. | 00:09:27 | |
| So I think we've gone around. | 00:09:36 | |
| Chris is shaking. I'll nominate Brian as the vice chair. | 00:09:42 | |
| I'll second that nomination. | 00:09:46 | |
| OK. All right. So we have two. | 00:09:49 | |
| 2 nominations out there, one for chair and one for vice chair, myself for chair. | 00:09:52 | |
| And Brian, Brian Valdrie for Vice Chair. | 00:09:56 | |
| I think we should have that flipped around, but. | 00:09:59 | |
| I think Brian just got done with a year of being chair so. | 00:10:02 | |
| I appreciate your service, Sir. | 00:10:05 | |
| That being said. | 00:10:07 | |
| Is there anyone else who would like to protest those nominations? I'll say that or forever hold your peace. | 00:10:10 | |
| If there is none, so let's just go ahead with the votes. Is this a roll call vote? | 00:10:17 | |
| I don't think it needs to be no. OK, so since this doesn't have to be a roll call though, let's go ahead with. | 00:10:23 | |
| Anyone who would like to. | 00:10:28 | |
| Start off with the yeas. | 00:10:31 | |
| Yay from that and is there anyone else? | 00:10:33 | |
| Is there one unanimous on that? | 00:10:39 | |
| So yay. | 00:10:41 | |
| Yeah, yeah. All right. Any names out there? | 00:10:43 | |
| Nope, nothing. | 00:10:47 | |
| So that's official. So congratulations to myself and Brian Valdry for. | 00:10:48 | |
| Doing chair and vice chair for the. | 00:10:53 | |
| Calendar year of 2026 and let the record note I abstained. | 00:10:55 | |
| Thank you, Sir. | 00:10:59 | |
| All right. With that being said, we have business item. | 00:11:03 | |
| 3.2. | 00:11:06 | |
| 3.2 is plot 26 dash. | 00:11:07 | |
| 0015. | 00:11:11 | |
| Subdivision. | 00:11:13 | |
| Final plot to hold away fields face. | 00:11:14 | |
| 2B as in Bravo. | 00:11:16 | |
| So Anthony is? | 00:11:18 | |
| Just a few minutes away. | 00:11:21 | |
| He had an emergency this morning he had to take care of. | 00:11:23 | |
| I I have not reviewed that plat so I would prefer recommend that we move to the Huntsman Cancer Institute presentation. | 00:11:27 | |
| First, OK. | 00:11:34 | |
| We just, I don't have it pulled up, Anthony. | 00:11:38 | |
| I think so. I don't think the Huntsman Cancer Institute one will take too long. I can give. | 00:11:46 | |
| When we introduce item, I can give some brief background on this postponed item 3.2. | 00:11:51 | |
| And jump into I am 4.1. | 00:11:56 | |
| Work session. | 00:11:58 | |
| So do we have? | 00:12:02 | |
| We ought to motion to work to enter a work session. | 00:12:03 | |
| OK, sweet. Just. | 00:12:06 | |
| This is the site plan Huntsman Cancer Institute, Vineyard Vineyard Clinic and Research. | 00:12:07 | |
| Yeah. I can just give some background here and we have Braden here with the applicant to answer and maybe any questions that we | 00:12:12 | |
| have. | 00:12:15 | |
| But essentially Huntsman. | 00:12:19 | |
| Cancer Institute is, you know, they're, they're building in the Utah City development. | 00:12:20 | |
| It is a state agency or state owned land and so we as a city don't have. | 00:12:24 | |
| Much ability to control the zoning or the construction or anything like that. And so they've been great working with us when we do | 00:12:28 | |
| have recommendations and stuff like that. | 00:12:33 | |
| They've been great to work with us and listen. | 00:12:37 | |
| To us on those. | 00:12:40 | |
| But we for the most part just wanted to make this body aware of their plans as they start to to. | 00:12:41 | |
| You know, move some dirt over there, what's going on, and then perhaps if there's any feedback or anything like that when it comes | 00:12:47 | |
| to how the project ties into the. | 00:12:52 | |
| The rest of the city, you know, that's where we can really have our biggest impact. | 00:12:56 | |
| And with that I don't know if you want to. | 00:13:01 | |
| Call for comments if people have had the opportunity to review these. | 00:13:04 | |
| These plans already. | 00:13:07 | |
| I know Patrick had a few comments he wanted to kind of talk over. | 00:13:09 | |
| And maybe we could start with those. | 00:13:12 | |
| Yeah. | 00:13:14 | |
| Well, let's go with comments on that. | 00:13:16 | |
| I guess is there any comments from Anthony? | 00:13:20 | |
| Or excuse me cashier that want to review this one. I mean our. | 00:13:23 | |
| Our biggest comment is it just has to do with as this is a state owned land. | 00:13:26 | |
| Are really our only thing that we control. | 00:13:31 | |
| In terms of zoning is we want to make sure the impact of the site remains on the site. | 00:13:34 | |
| And so that would be something like making sure that they are at their parking minimums that are recommendation which also they | 00:13:38 | |
| want their site to be successful and I know they are going to be working with. | 00:13:42 | |
| Flag Borough on a shared parking agreement. | 00:13:47 | |
| And I don't know if that's going to happen in a later phase or if the parking that they're proposing right now is is adequate for | 00:13:50 | |
| the. | 00:13:53 | |
| That use, you know for the Phase 1 use. | 00:13:56 | |
| But that's essentially is, is if is there going to be any uses of the site spilling into the neighboring blocks? If so, we we | 00:13:59 | |
| definitely want to have some some comments on that and. | 00:14:04 | |
| Go over those, but as of right now I'm not aware of any. | 00:14:09 | |
| OK, that's fine. | 00:14:12 | |
| Appreciate that and I know. | 00:14:16 | |
| Looking through this, there is some comments from engineering specifically and I'll just give kind of a hierarchy comment and | 00:14:18 | |
| enforce Patrick. | 00:14:21 | |
| He can provide some. | 00:14:25 | |
| Detailed comments and of course. | 00:14:27 | |
| Just for the applicant out there, you're always welcome to have a. | 00:14:29 | |
| You're always welcome to have a. | 00:14:36 | |
| A offline one-on-one session with myself and Patrick and to provide some more detailed stuff and. | 00:14:38 | |
| Or comments? Excuse me or. | 00:14:46 | |
| The back end and have the back and forth. So I just want to make sure that applicant does know that this is not a. | 00:14:47 | |
| Our conversation does not have to be. | 00:14:52 | |
| Just in this formal setting. | 00:14:54 | |
| And itself. | 00:14:56 | |
| Yeah. So just just overarching comments here, We just want to make sure kind of what Cash said that this impacts to the sides kind | 00:14:57 | |
| of is maintained not to this side. | 00:15:01 | |
| So that same theme. | 00:15:07 | |
| We do have some, we have some generalized comments and it might be a great time, even after this meeting, to have a conversation | 00:15:10 | |
| with the person to my right. | 00:15:14 | |
| Brandon from the Orem Fire Department. | 00:15:19 | |
| We do have some concerns about fire access and into the site. | 00:15:21 | |
| I know. | 00:15:26 | |
| We provide the odds of turn. | 00:15:28 | |
| Analysis for. | 00:15:31 | |
| Truck access and fire access into the site where? | 00:15:34 | |
| It seemed like the. | 00:15:38 | |
| Some of the turns were going into oncoming oncoming lanes or even to parks parking stalls. | 00:15:40 | |
| So we just want to make sure that those things are being mitigated. | 00:15:47 | |
| Specifically. | 00:15:52 | |
| On that. So that is so those are the some of the overarching comments on regards to the. | 00:15:54 | |
| Turn radiuses. | 00:16:01 | |
| On that, so I know that's. | 00:16:03 | |
| You know that that may affect your site. | 00:16:06 | |
| Out specifically and then the other thing on there for the applicants and Patrick and I'll give time over to you in a minute, but | 00:16:09 | |
| can go into this. | 00:16:13 | |
| In regards to parking, the city does have. | 00:16:18 | |
| Even though the planners aren't specifically detailing out the parking. | 00:16:21 | |
| Requirements. | 00:16:26 | |
| Per se, but the city itself does have our standards and specifications in terms of parking stalls. | 00:16:28 | |
| Where drive lanes are 26 feet wide and then. | 00:16:33 | |
| Parking stalls themselves are 20 feet deep unless they bud up to like a landscaping strip. | 00:16:38 | |
| Where then there's allowance to. | 00:16:43 | |
| For the vehicle bumper I believe. | 00:16:46 | |
| It's like encroach into the landscaping strip itself. | 00:16:50 | |
| But. | 00:16:54 | |
| Those are those are some of the overarching. | 00:16:55 | |
| Questions that we have concerned about in terms of. | 00:16:57 | |
| Parking itself. | 00:16:59 | |
| On that, the drive out specifically does come to. | 00:17:02 | |
| To be a fire. | 00:17:06 | |
| For us, again, it's not just vehicle or access, but fire. | 00:17:07 | |
| Access as well. | 00:17:10 | |
| But Patrick, I can turn the time over to you if you want to give anything specific or if there's anything else you would like to | 00:17:11 | |
| add. | 00:17:14 | |
| Yeah, you covered those items. | 00:17:18 | |
| Pretty well the. | 00:17:21 | |
| Yeah, for the parking it. | 00:17:22 | |
| With with an 18 foot. | 00:17:24 | |
| Back-to-back stalls and 20 foot. | 00:17:27 | |
| 24 foot Dr. aisle it it creates a really tight. | 00:17:30 | |
| Aisle. Especially when when. | 00:17:33 | |
| Vehicles tend to hang. | 00:17:35 | |
| Hang out of the stall. | 00:17:38 | |
| With the 18 foot. | 00:17:40 | |
| So we would suggest that if possible. | 00:17:41 | |
| To increase that. | 00:17:46 | |
| And like Naseem mentioned, I'm not sure if. | 00:17:48 | |
| Fire was looking at fire axis through. | 00:17:52 | |
| The parking lot on this. | 00:17:54 | |
| On the to get access to this side of the building, but I believe fire likes to have 26 foot Dr. aisles as well. | 00:17:56 | |
| I can speak to that this also. | 00:18:03 | |
| You know, I'm in the same position. It falls under the state Fire Marshall's office. And so I believe they've been reviewing it. I | 00:18:06 | |
| was part of a couple of the reviews. | 00:18:09 | |
| Generally speaking. | 00:18:13 | |
| The appendix in IFC. | 00:18:16 | |
| States that have hits over 30 feet to the. | 00:18:19 | |
| Top of the roof. | 00:18:22 | |
| The highest part of the roof, then it needs to be a 26 foot. | 00:18:23 | |
| Fire access for ladder truck access. | 00:18:27 | |
| Do you know if the states? | 00:18:31 | |
| Specifically taking a look at the 24 foot widths. | 00:18:32 | |
| Sorry, just for the wreck, we have to have you speak in the microphone if that's OK. | 00:18:37 | |
| Hi. | 00:18:44 | |
| Yeah, Braden Alsop. I'm with Kim Horn representing the civil. | 00:18:45 | |
| And representing applicant. | 00:18:49 | |
| We can follow up on the review specifically for the 24 foot. | 00:18:53 | |
| Widths. I will note that if you. | 00:18:56 | |
| Pan up this. | 00:18:58 | |
| Whole area, that Gray line. | 00:19:00 | |
| The future phase is going to be a parking structure here. | 00:19:03 | |
| I know that's something they've been considering as well. | 00:19:07 | |
| But I just wanted to note that. | 00:19:10 | |
| Just for awareness, that's that Gray line, yeah, that you're outlining right now. | 00:19:11 | |
| So this will be a. | 00:19:16 | |
| Parking structure. | 00:19:17 | |
| In the future. But we can. | 00:19:18 | |
| Look into I guess. | 00:19:21 | |
| To follow up as well the. | 00:19:23 | |
| Furthest West. | 00:19:25 | |
| Stalls. | 00:19:27 | |
| Because those have the landscape strip those would be. | 00:19:28 | |
| Still falling within compliance according to city code with the 18 foot. Is that correct? Yes. | 00:19:33 | |
| That's correct. That would be correct. I believe the east ones would as well. Yeah, it's mainly the ones just the center aisles, | 00:19:37 | |
| center aisles specifically, but also we want to make sure that. | 00:19:41 | |
| If it's a butts up to a sidewalk that. | 00:19:46 | |
| The sidewalk is not a fair game. | 00:19:49 | |
| Buffer overhang. | 00:19:52 | |
| I think our code says that if there's. | 00:19:54 | |
| Only a 5 foot sidewalk and then the building and then the parking stall we can't allow. | 00:19:56 | |
| Overhang. | 00:20:00 | |
| But once again, that's our code. | 00:20:01 | |
| OK. Yeah, We can follow up with the state on that, specifically with those Dr. widths as well. | 00:20:05 | |
| OK for the. | 00:20:12 | |
| Turn radius that. | 00:20:15 | |
| Missy mentioned earlier. | 00:20:16 | |
| I I believe that it'll and I apologize my. | 00:20:20 | |
| Blue beam is not refreshing very quickly, so it's a little bit fuzzy. | 00:20:23 | |
| But I believe this could fit. | 00:20:29 | |
| Just fine without the IT come as the truck. | 00:20:31 | |
| Comes out of the. | 00:20:35 | |
| Out of the site, it runs into those parking stalls across the street. | 00:20:37 | |
| But I I think with some. | 00:20:42 | |
| There it goes. | 00:20:44 | |
| With some finagling I think I think it could fit. | 00:20:46 | |
| Fit just fine. | 00:20:49 | |
| But that could be something. | 00:20:51 | |
| Or that should be something that we we should be aware of. | 00:20:52 | |
| With that and check to see if that would interfere with parking stalls because I don't want. | 00:20:56 | |
| You know when cars are parked right there, the truck not being able to get out, right? We could post a sign on the street that | 00:21:01 | |
| says no parking during fires. | 00:21:06 | |
| Yeah, during fires. | 00:21:11 | |
| It's a great idea. | 00:21:12 | |
| There is a section in the code that does. | 00:21:14 | |
| Does say or portion thereof? | 00:21:16 | |
| So if there's a specific. | 00:21:19 | |
| Fire. You know, like the ladder truck. | 00:21:20 | |
| Portion, but then that means that you're losing. | 00:21:24 | |
| Parking spaces. | 00:21:27 | |
| Because it's specifically set aside for. | 00:21:29 | |
| That instance which isn't. | 00:21:32 | |
| The most popular idea? That's why. | 00:21:34 | |
| 26 feet. | 00:21:36 | |
| The general standard. | 00:21:37 | |
| Yeah, and I. | 00:21:39 | |
| I agree. I think we could. | 00:21:40 | |
| Check the radius on this as well. For that turn route, I think there's a. | 00:21:43 | |
| Chance that we could avoid those stalls just with the. | 00:21:48 | |
| Software, we're using that in that. | 00:21:51 | |
| That's something that we can, certainly. | 00:21:53 | |
| Look into further. | 00:21:55 | |
| Yeah. And then the other comment, I just want to make sure, again, excuse me, this is on the technical side. | 00:21:57 | |
| I do understand that. | 00:22:03 | |
| You're having a state review. | 00:22:05 | |
| The facility and. | 00:22:06 | |
| Some of the other things, however, the infrastructure does tie into the Vineyard City. | 00:22:08 | |
| So it's if. | 00:22:12 | |
| Vineyard City's infrastructure standards and details. | 00:22:13 | |
| And I'll have a car. I can never have problems talking to state officials about this. | 00:22:17 | |
| Ours Trump. | 00:22:21 | |
| The requirements. | 00:22:23 | |
| Over the state is to ensure that there is kept act. | 00:22:24 | |
| Capability. | 00:22:28 | |
| And. | 00:22:30 | |
| Synergy on that so our and we and the awesome thing about it I give. | 00:22:31 | |
| 110% credit to Patrick James over there. | 00:22:37 | |
| Who worked very diligently to update our. | 00:22:40 | |
| Infrastructure standards. | 00:22:43 | |
| Construction design. Construction standards. | 00:22:45 | |
| We do align to the Utah APWA. | 00:22:48 | |
| A lot. I want to say 100%. | 00:22:51 | |
| On there, but please it's available on our website. | 00:22:54 | |
| Right. It's available on our website. Please go through that to ensure that there's any kind of specialty. | 00:22:57 | |
| I I say items on there is being reflected to the cities item because we do provide, we do provide the. | 00:23:04 | |
| Infrastructure services to this. | 00:23:10 | |
| To the facility and we are the first responders when it comes to. | 00:23:13 | |
| Addressing that. So we just want to ensure that. | 00:23:16 | |
| Our standards are being followed. | 00:23:19 | |
| And that anything that we have to do to help support. | 00:23:21 | |
| HCR that we're able to do, especially on. | 00:23:25 | |
| Equipment, uh. | 00:23:27 | |
| Equipment on hand. | 00:23:29 | |
| On that, but for the most part, we were proud to say that we aligned to Utah. | 00:23:30 | |
| Utah, a PWA. | 00:23:34 | |
| Like 90%. | 00:23:36 | |
| So yeah, we'll definitely. | 00:23:38 | |
| Comply with that as well. It's not too much, it's usually quirks. I think what part of the stuff it really does fall into, like | 00:23:41 | |
| some differences when it comes to meters. | 00:23:45 | |
| Like the water, the connections and so forth. TSSD is the provider out here. | 00:23:48 | |
| So TSD will have to have a review of this. | 00:23:53 | |
| As well, and Patrick will coordinate that with TSST. Is that correct? | 00:23:57 | |
| Yeah. So we'll coordinate that and we can't promise what TSST will say or we'll say. | 00:24:01 | |
| But we will be a happy partner with you. | 00:24:06 | |
| OK. Thank you. | 00:24:09 | |
| Yeah. So I don't, I don't know if we want to run through all the technical. | 00:24:11 | |
| Comments. Technique. I would. I mean, I'd rather just do overarching thing for the interest of time, but again we're this is the | 00:24:15 | |
| applicant's time as well. | 00:24:19 | |
| So if you would like to hear if there's more. | 00:24:24 | |
| Like general type of things. | 00:24:26 | |
| We're happy. | 00:24:29 | |
| Please, Patrick, say. | 00:24:30 | |
| We're also, I mean, I sincerely just. | 00:24:32 | |
| If you already have Patrick my my e-mail just. | 00:24:35 | |
| Please go before you leave. | 00:24:39 | |
| And so, yeah, definitely, let's have a meeting and we'll spend, you know, an hour or two hours, four hours. | 00:24:40 | |
| Or however long it takes to. | 00:24:45 | |
| To go through all the comments and, and, and you know, and make it make sure it's a 2. It's a two way conversation too. | 00:24:47 | |
| We're happy to. | 00:24:52 | |
| Hear what your thoughts are. | 00:24:53 | |
| To ensure that's a site successful. | 00:24:55 | |
| Yeah, yeah. | 00:24:58 | |
| As far as the technical comments there, there wasn't anything. | 00:24:59 | |
| Huge on on that end. Probably the main main question was looping the water line. | 00:25:03 | |
| Figuring out. | 00:25:10 | |
| How to do that rather than just having a dead end, But we can talk about specialties because you have to have, I believe HCI | 00:25:11 | |
| requested a secondary service line. | 00:25:16 | |
| In order for the as emergency backup. | 00:25:21 | |
| On that one, so that would be important. | 00:25:24 | |
| The last thing I do have on there is that. | 00:25:26 | |
| The landscaping portion of it. | 00:25:29 | |
| We would ask that you will work with us on the landscaping. | 00:25:31 | |
| My types we do have a landscaping manual. | 00:25:36 | |
| And we put great pains into that to ensure that the landscaping. | 00:25:40 | |
| The landscaping complements. | 00:25:45 | |
| Our water reuse. | 00:25:47 | |
| Guidelines as well as the temperature, the temperament that's down here. | 00:25:51 | |
| George Strammer, arborist. | 00:25:55 | |
| Is our. | 00:25:57 | |
| Local experts. | 00:26:01 | |
| Now in terms of. | 00:26:03 | |
| That's seemingly. That's another. That's something else. | 00:26:06 | |
| Now we just ask that. | 00:26:11 | |
| You work with us with. | 00:26:13 | |
| We can send you the tree and landscape manual if you don't have it already. | 00:26:14 | |
| Yeah. That's like I said, it's, it's very, yeah. We can coordinate with our landscape partners as well on that. | 00:26:17 | |
| 100% we George George tram takes very. | 00:26:21 | |
| Great pride and. | 00:26:25 | |
| Great hearts to ensure that trees survive. | 00:26:28 | |
| And like everyone else would like to do so. | 00:26:30 | |
| And then of course, so he can talk hours and hours. | 00:26:32 | |
| About trees. | 00:26:36 | |
| Awesome. | 00:26:38 | |
| All right, so I have a few comments from. | 00:26:41 | |
| That I wanted to. | 00:26:43 | |
| Have you clarify? | 00:26:45 | |
| Landscaping, as Naseem has said, is one of the big things I had from L5 sheet L5. | 00:26:46 | |
| Where you'd have to potentially put in some more landscaping, especially in the islands, at least put in some trees. | 00:26:53 | |
| In the three islands that you have. | 00:27:00 | |
| One of the things I also realized, and I have in my comment is to. | 00:27:03 | |
| Have you go through or use the? | 00:27:08 | |
| Tree Manual the landscaping guide that Naseem talked about because a few of your selections where. | 00:27:11 | |
| Not really in line with what we. | 00:27:17 | |
| Have you know manual? | 00:27:20 | |
| And the reason why the manual is a good thing for you to follow is these are trees. | 00:27:21 | |
| It was put together by people that understand the area better and made great selection of trees and plants. | 00:27:27 | |
| That work well within this area. | 00:27:35 | |
| So that's a big thing. We can share that with you and if there are any things that you are proposing outside of that manual, we | 00:27:37 | |
| can have George review it and. | 00:27:41 | |
| So that's one of the things. | 00:27:47 | |
| The second thing I had, we've talked. | 00:27:50 | |
| Extensively about that was the. | 00:27:52 | |
| The Park Inn. | 00:27:55 | |
| Calculation, so I'm not going to go into that because of time. | 00:27:56 | |
| Um, I will. | 00:28:02 | |
| Say that I mean, I was impressed to have. | 00:28:03 | |
| With the number of stores that you had, you had. | 00:28:05 | |
| Given more. | 00:28:07 | |
| Ada and it's very. | 00:28:09 | |
| Get to have extra ADA especially for hospital. | 00:28:11 | |
| One thing I would like to have. | 00:28:14 | |
| An understanding of is the circulation. | 00:28:17 | |
| Of flow of. | 00:28:20 | |
| Essentially traffic through the site. | 00:28:22 | |
| I was trying to. | 00:28:25 | |
| Make sense out of it, you know, Drive through the site in my mind. | 00:28:27 | |
| And while I did the review, I was. | 00:28:30 | |
| Looking at how the University of Utah. | 00:28:33 | |
| Enhancement Council institute up in Salt Lake. | 00:28:36 | |
| Has overtime had to retrofit? | 00:28:39 | |
| How? | 00:28:41 | |
| The experience is for people to come in. | 00:28:42 | |
| Drop off valet. | 00:28:44 | |
| Rideshare all these. | 00:28:47 | |
| Various ways to get to the hospital and. | 00:28:50 | |
| I was trying to understand. I even you know. | 00:28:55 | |
| Had a short discussion with Patrick here yesterday. | 00:28:57 | |
| What the intent is if this is like a one way in? | 00:29:00 | |
| If you could give us a walk through what the experience is going to be like because. | 00:29:05 | |
| Up on this side, this is not clear if you're doing a. | 00:29:10 | |
| Stop somewhere here. | 00:29:13 | |
| Or you're going to do a mini roundabout that takes you to the parking lot. I understand that there's like future phase to have. | 00:29:15 | |
| Parking structure over here. | 00:29:23 | |
| But having just one entrance into the parking. | 00:29:25 | |
| Lot is. | 00:29:28 | |
| Potentially not the best and. | 00:29:31 | |
| I want to advise or recommend you consider in a second access in here. | 00:29:33 | |
| If that's possible to get into the parking lot. | 00:29:39 | |
| Either from this side without backing up. | 00:29:43 | |
| Any kind of entry ways just. | 00:29:46 | |
| If you have some time to just walk us through what the experience is. | 00:29:49 | |
| Wasn't also sure what the. | 00:29:53 | |
| Turn here is intended to do. | 00:29:55 | |
| Is it taking the same concept like you have at the University of Utah where you have the rideshare folks come here and wait for | 00:29:58 | |
| people? | 00:30:01 | |
| You know, just trying to make sure. | 00:30:06 | |
| We have it synced up and we're not repeating the same mistakes. | 00:30:09 | |
| Up there in Salt Lake. | 00:30:12 | |
| Because even if you go to the Salt Lake Huntsman. | 00:30:13 | |
| You know, institute the big one up in the hospital. | 00:30:18 | |
| You realize the. | 00:30:21 | |
| The Street of Hope. | 00:30:23 | |
| Takes you. | 00:30:25 | |
| Almost away from. | 00:30:26 | |
| How you enter it's, it's a bit wonky. We want to give a better experience for people to access the hospital. | 00:30:27 | |
| As well as experience for people to try to find parking or. | 00:30:33 | |
| Just passed through that area if there is without. | 00:30:37 | |
| You know, distracting folks that probably need to be rushed in. | 00:30:40 | |
| So that's one of the major comments I have. | 00:30:44 | |
| Compiled here. | 00:30:47 | |
| And the second access. | 00:30:51 | |
| These are the main ones for now. | 00:30:53 | |
| We may have to talk about elevations later on. | 00:30:56 | |
| But I'll let you, OK. | 00:30:59 | |
| Talk about. | 00:31:00 | |
| You know the experience walking, you know, walk us through the experience of. | 00:31:01 | |
| How it's going to be with people coming into the hospital right now. | 00:31:05 | |
| Yes, we have that. | 00:31:11 | |
| Entrance on the South side, that's going to be. | 00:31:12 | |
| Cars going. | 00:31:16 | |
| In and then we do have that striping on the right hand side if you zoom in. | 00:31:17 | |
| That's going to be for drop off. | 00:31:22 | |
| Or loading, unloading only. | 00:31:25 | |
| Is it intended to have a backup you know you back into that? | 00:31:26 | |
| That striping. | 00:31:30 | |
| No, that's intended to pull in straight. | 00:31:32 | |
| Straighten it, OK? | 00:31:34 | |
| And then there's bollards there as well. | 00:31:36 | |
| To prevent. | 00:31:37 | |
| Going over the 0 curve there. | 00:31:38 | |
| OK. And then there is that additional you can see it's a different hatch. | 00:31:40 | |
| The ambulance. | 00:31:44 | |
| Yeah, striping, ambulance parking only and then those stalls for clarification. We can. | 00:31:46 | |
| Certainly add this to the plans to this. | 00:31:52 | |
| That that's, that's going to be for valet parking, that's. | 00:31:54 | |
| That's a husbands intent there, yes, OK. | 00:31:57 | |
| How about this area? How's the intersection going to be treated? | 00:32:04 | |
| Yeah, right now that's just the exit from out there, the only people that will be turning left. | 00:32:08 | |
| To go into there, like I said, that would just be the valet. | 00:32:13 | |
| So traffic will continue to flow. | 00:32:17 | |
| Straight there. | 00:32:19 | |
| To exit or enter the parking lot. | 00:32:20 | |
| How about folks trying to get into the parking lot here? Is there going to be a stop sign here to allow people coming from here to | 00:32:23 | |
| get into the parking lot? | 00:32:27 | |
| Yeah, that's something we can certainly look into is more signage in that area to to show that, yeah. | 00:32:32 | |
| Yeah, if we could. | 00:32:37 | |
| You know, just. | 00:32:39 | |
| Overall, think about. | 00:32:39 | |
| Rush moments in the hospital, how this intersection is going to be. | 00:32:41 | |
| An abstraction to. | 00:32:47 | |
| General operations. | 00:32:48 | |
| And again my other comment was. | 00:32:51 | |
| Consider a second exit. | 00:32:53 | |
| Or entrance into the parking lot. | 00:32:55 | |
| One other thing that we obviously could not deduce from the plan was. | 00:32:59 | |
| What the facing is going to be like when? | 00:33:05 | |
| You talk about. | 00:33:08 | |
| Parking structure? Are we looking next 10 years, Five years? | 00:33:09 | |
| It'll be nice to know some of these things to be able to. | 00:33:13 | |
| Help you or? | 00:33:16 | |
| You know, propose sending things to you that makes what we're working with right now. | 00:33:18 | |
| More usable and gives better experience. | 00:33:23 | |
| So it would be nice to know. | 00:33:26 | |
| When the timeline is, yeah, unfortunately I can't give a timeline right now, but we could put together a more cohesive. | 00:33:28 | |
| Prediction on that for the parking structure specifically as it. | 00:33:34 | |
| Relates to. | 00:33:37 | |
| The spacing as well and the access to it. | 00:33:39 | |
| And work with the city further on that. | 00:33:42 | |
| OK. | 00:33:44 | |
| For the interest of time. | 00:33:47 | |
| I will come to get anything else further to you. Brandon, do you have a question to comment? Yeah, just about your your comment | 00:33:48 | |
| about the. | 00:33:52 | |
| Two accesses into that parking lot, what's what's the total square footage of that building that the. | 00:33:57 | |
| Parking lot serves right there. | 00:34:02 | |
| The of the central you. | 00:34:05 | |
| Utility. The northern one, the parking lot services the hospital. Yeah, not the utility plan. | 00:34:07 | |
| OK, gotcha. So people will park there and then walk down to the hospital? | 00:34:12 | |
| Gotcha. OK. | 00:34:16 | |
| Yeah, just in the. | 00:34:18 | |
| I imagine it still meets just one fire department access. | 00:34:22 | |
| To that. | 00:34:28 | |
| That section that's over there with the roads so. | 00:34:29 | |
| Yeah, that was that was my only question. I think it's answered. Sorry. I apologize. My phone was. | 00:34:32 | |
| Giving me text messages through my hearing aid. So it was hard, no worries. | 00:34:37 | |
| Pay attention there modern technology I I guess you sorry about. | 00:34:41 | |
| To clarify on that. | 00:34:46 | |
| For so that being the central utility plant, would it be? | 00:34:47 | |
| Appropriate to have the access for the fire truck just beyond the northern side or does it need to have access from that parking | 00:34:51 | |
| lot as well? | 00:34:55 | |
| What's the height? | 00:34:59 | |
| Oh, I don't know off the top of my head building. Do you know if it's over 30 feet? | 00:35:01 | |
| I should be. | 00:35:04 | |
| For I think I remember seeing plans at one point that had. | 00:35:06 | |
| I don't know if it was over 30 feet or not. | 00:35:12 | |
| You think is it taken from because I know where the utility plants when they're a little bit different, especially with the top | 00:35:14 | |
| exhaust like the features on the top. So we took a. | 00:35:18 | |
| From the. | 00:35:22 | |
| Grade plane to top of any path. | 00:35:24 | |
| Any parrot the parapet ball. | 00:35:26 | |
| I mean, I mean I would. | 00:35:28 | |
| Defer to you, but I doubt would be that go along. | 00:35:30 | |
| Like the main. | 00:35:33 | |
| Yeah, Fisher in 3rd. | 00:35:34 | |
| And those also count as fire department access, so. | 00:35:36 | |
| OK. | 00:35:40 | |
| Yeah, this is two sides. | 00:35:41 | |
| So looks like. | 00:35:43 | |
| You're probably taking care of. | 00:35:45 | |
| And I'm sure the state. | 00:35:48 | |
| Yeah. And then I have a question just. | 00:35:53 | |
| Now, as a father of young kids who like to. | 00:35:55 | |
| Open up drawers and stick. | 00:35:59 | |
| Things in her mouth and swallow. | 00:36:01 | |
| Random objects and then at 3:00 in the morning. | 00:36:03 | |
| In being a frequent. | 00:36:06 | |
| Visitor to the emergency room. | 00:36:07 | |
| Because of those things. | 00:36:09 | |
| This is. | 00:36:10 | |
| This one beyond record is this facility. | 00:36:13 | |
| Going to be providing emergency services. | 00:36:15 | |
| Number in terms of like a emergency room. | 00:36:17 | |
| Or is it just solely? | 00:36:21 | |
| Like more of like that outpatient type. | 00:36:23 | |
| Slowly there will be inpatient services I. | 00:36:25 | |
| Would not be able to speak to the services fully quite as well, OK? | 00:36:28 | |
| But we can follow up on that. I mean, in terms of what specific emergency services, the main things I also I just want to make | 00:36:34 | |
| sure is that when with those things planned that we're. | 00:36:38 | |
| Considering the off site improvements that would be without that, would that should be done? | 00:36:42 | |
| In order to ensure that. | 00:36:47 | |
| Those type of services are being able are. | 00:36:49 | |
| Are being able to be offered on hundreds. | 00:36:52 | |
| On that and. | 00:36:55 | |
| Again, you have a great partner here in Vineyard City as well with the downtown developer. | 00:36:57 | |
| To ensure that any type of off site improvements. | 00:37:02 | |
| Can be accommodated to ensure that. | 00:37:05 | |
| Where that those services are able to be offered. | 00:37:07 | |
| On that. So that was a. | 00:37:11 | |
| OK. I always appreciate the nurses. | 00:37:13 | |
| You know, taking my kids at like, you know, 2:00 in the morning to X-ray the marbles that they decide to stick in their mouth. | 00:37:16 | |
| So. | 00:37:22 | |
| OK. I'm sorry, is there any other, does anyone else have any comments so building department? | 00:37:30 | |
| Only comment would be. | 00:37:35 | |
| Just for Emergency Management, we would request a set of plans for our records, at least a life safety plans. | 00:37:37 | |
| OK. Yeah, at some point that's all I is that comment noted on the plans. | 00:37:44 | |
| No, OK, I'll make note of that then. | 00:37:48 | |
| All right, so you've heard from the fire, You've heard from myself. | 00:37:50 | |
| Public works engineering, You've heard, then Brian Baldry. | 00:37:55 | |
| I had nothing from Brian Valdry, Mr. David Kyle. | 00:37:58 | |
| No, I don't think. | 00:38:03 | |
| David, do you do you see anything? | 00:38:05 | |
| I don't see it either. | 00:38:08 | |
| OK, cool. | 00:38:10 | |
| And then? | 00:38:11 | |
| Mr. Cashancy, No, I'm just excited. | 00:38:13 | |
| This has been a long time coming and we're. | 00:38:15 | |
| Excited to see it develop out. | 00:38:17 | |
| 100% OK that being said, is there anyone again? | 00:38:19 | |
| Is a work session, so we typically don't take any kind of public comments, but. | 00:38:23 | |
| I mean, if there's any comments out there, we're always happy here, but in terms of that. | 00:38:27 | |
| And with the applicant, is there any? | 00:38:33 | |
| Anything else you would like to add? | 00:38:35 | |
| Not from my end at this time. We yeah, we might be taking up on. | 00:38:39 | |
| Meeting together just to go over some of the engineering comments. More in detail later. But yeah, I think for now that's great. | 00:38:42 | |
| 100% OK, Yeah, let's make sure if you again, if you don't already have Patrick's contact, just grab it before you leave. | 00:38:47 | |
| And then? | 00:38:53 | |
| With that being said, we're definitely, everyone here is definitely excited and definitely excited to see this be successful. | 00:38:55 | |
| Across the board. | 00:39:02 | |
| So we're done with our work. It looks like David Pierce had a. | 00:39:03 | |
| Question if you want to introduce OK. | 00:39:07 | |
| I'm happy. | 00:39:09 | |
| Mr. Pierce, member from the public, would you like to say anything? | 00:39:11 | |
| David Pierce Cascade, I just have a question about medical. | 00:39:19 | |
| Transport drop off. | 00:39:22 | |
| If you could clarify that a little bit. | 00:39:25 | |
| For me. | 00:39:28 | |
| How that would have ambulance and. | 00:39:29 | |
| Yeah, I can walk through that part. | 00:39:31 | |
| So in terms of. | 00:39:39 | |
| Your question, if I understand right, was just how. | 00:39:42 | |
| Folks are how patients are going to be dropped off. | 00:39:44 | |
| Oh thanks, not off the path. | 00:39:49 | |
| Cars but. | 00:39:52 | |
| Medical transport. | 00:39:53 | |
| So there's like an ambulance that. | 00:39:54 | |
| And a helicopter pad too. Oh yeah, hell and helicopter. Yeah, there is a helicopter pad as well as the ambulance, right? | 00:39:57 | |
| Is just. | 00:40:04 | |
| I can zoom in here. | 00:40:06 | |
| This is the area that is specifically designated just for ambulance drop off. | 00:40:08 | |
| And then all this concrete here is. | 00:40:13 | |
| Ada accessible to be able to. | 00:40:15 | |
| Get access to the main doors. | 00:40:18 | |
| OK, thanks. I missed that. | 00:40:20 | |
| Oh, all good, yeah. | 00:40:22 | |
| Yeah. Well, thank you very much. | 00:40:25 | |
| All right, thanks. All right, Well, that being said, we'll get out the close or excuse me, the work session. | 00:40:27 | |
| And then we'll start up with the business Iron 3.2. | 00:40:32 | |
| This is the Plat 26-0015 subdivision final Plat holdaway fields. | 00:40:36 | |
| Phase 2. | 00:40:42 | |
| B as in Bravo and so with planners, would you like to start off with that? | 00:40:44 | |
| Is there any way to? | 00:40:48 | |
| Follow up. | 00:40:50 | |
| One question on the ambulance, I'm sorry. | 00:40:50 | |
| Well, since. | 00:40:55 | |
| Started is this started the other one? No problem, Mike. | 00:40:57 | |
| He's got so before you leave us. | 00:41:00 | |
| Yeah, before I leave this, please get with, get with. | 00:41:03 | |
| Good with us. Thank you, Sir. | 00:41:05 | |
| All right, so kind of go with a. | 00:41:07 | |
| Business item. | 00:41:09 | |
| Or the Mr. Fletcher is going to start us off. Thank you. | 00:41:09 | |
| Thank you very much, Naseem. | 00:41:15 | |
| Chair Nassim. | 00:41:17 | |
| So. | 00:41:19 | |
| The applicant for this. | 00:41:21 | |
| Final plat subdivision application. | 00:41:23 | |
| Here we have a good borough being represented. | 00:41:27 | |
| By Nate Burchill Online because he's in. | 00:41:30 | |
| California and Eric Mogul be here. So if we have any direct questions. | 00:41:34 | |
| We can. | 00:41:39 | |
| Also ask them while they're here. | 00:41:40 | |
| So this is part of our continuation of. | 00:41:41 | |
| The ongoing holdaway fields development. | 00:41:45 | |
| The Phase 2 was. | 00:41:47 | |
| Divided was subdivided into phase 2A and B. | 00:41:50 | |
| We had the phase 2A. | 00:41:54 | |
| Approved. | 00:41:57 | |
| In January 22nd of this year. | 00:41:59 | |
| And has not yet been recorded. | 00:42:02 | |
| As part of the development agreement. | 00:42:05 | |
| We required that before any. | 00:42:08 | |
| You know, before they move forward with. | 00:42:12 | |
| Phase 2 they need to. | 00:42:14 | |
| The east terminus. | 00:42:16 | |
| 400 S. | 00:42:18 | |
| To be part of. | 00:42:20 | |
| At least one of the plots with phase two and that was plaited and approved. | 00:42:21 | |
| And as part of Phase 2A. | 00:42:26 | |
| Though it's not been recorded, it's going to be. | 00:42:29 | |
| One of the conditions of approval for this phase 2B, which has. | 00:42:33 | |
| 25 single family homes. | 00:42:37 | |
| That will be serving the senior. | 00:42:40 | |
| Community. | 00:42:42 | |
| Over there. | 00:42:43 | |
| We have worked through. | 00:42:45 | |
| Various. | 00:42:47 | |
| Concerns that we have. | 00:42:49 | |
| We're planning and also engineering. We've been coordinating. | 00:42:51 | |
| Pretty well. | 00:42:55 | |
| The last iteration that came had. | 00:42:56 | |
| Just two things that needed to be updated. That's the signatory and also. | 00:43:01 | |
| I mean signatory for both ownership and. | 00:43:05 | |
| Let me. | 00:43:09 | |
| For both ownership and the City side. | 00:43:11 | |
| And we have spoken with them, they know they have all the comments and. | 00:43:14 | |
| They are going to. | 00:43:20 | |
| Potentially have this updated if there are no further comments. | 00:43:22 | |
| By the DRC. | 00:43:26 | |
| And we also do have. | 00:43:29 | |
| As I had mentioned earlier. | 00:43:31 | |
| Conditions of approval, which is. | 00:43:34 | |
| This has to be. This can be recorded. | 00:43:37 | |
| Or has to be recorded. | 00:43:41 | |
| Right with the 2A. | 00:43:43 | |
| I'm just going to go up there right with a 2A. | 00:43:46 | |
| With a thought that the 2A has. | 00:43:50 | |
| The 400 South Rd. That satisfies the development agreement. | 00:43:53 | |
| Recorded as part of it. | 00:43:59 | |
| So that would be one of the. | 00:44:01 | |
| You know, recommendations or conditions for approval and also we requested that they provide a separate. | 00:44:04 | |
| Document that shows all the ASBEL utilities. | 00:44:12 | |
| Overlaid over the plat because they made some changes to. | 00:44:16 | |
| The plat front. | 00:44:20 | |
| And they have. | 00:44:22 | |
| Provided that to Patrick already. | 00:44:24 | |
| So I believe that condition does not hold. | 00:44:26 | |
| If everything looks good from Patricks end. | 00:44:29 | |
| But as it stands now. | 00:44:33 | |
| We can still hold them to the Florida South. | 00:44:34 | |
| Condition before they can. | 00:44:38 | |
| Record. | 00:44:41 | |
| OK. Thank you. | 00:44:42 | |
| Yes, we appreciate that. And then just to. | 00:44:43 | |
| Go on record the. | 00:44:46 | |
| One more time. | 00:44:48 | |
| Anthony but. | 00:44:50 | |
| Their revision to this plot versus their previous plot on phase 2B there's. | 00:44:51 | |
| There in terms of. | 00:44:56 | |
| Lot numbers. | 00:44:58 | |
| What is the change in lot numbers compared to the original? | 00:45:00 | |
| Are you are you asking the number of lots or just the change? Oh. | 00:45:08 | |
| So. | 00:45:13 | |
| Just to specify here. | 00:45:14 | |
| I don't know if you can see. | 00:45:16 | |
| But. | 00:45:18 | |
| Some of the lots were made narrower. | 00:45:21 | |
| So if you look here, most of the lots were about 50 feet. | 00:45:23 | |
| Wide. | 00:45:26 | |
| They readjusted some of the lots to make. | 00:45:28 | |
| To make room for much smaller units. | 00:45:31 | |
| Where you have 40. | 00:45:35 | |
| Feet, frontage or width of the lot. | 00:45:37 | |
| And that allowed room for. | 00:45:40 | |
| Some of them to go higher. | 00:45:43 | |
| Than the 40. | 00:45:45 | |
| But than the usual which would be. | 00:45:47 | |
| A mid sized one which is about 46. | 00:45:49 | |
| Feet wide, so they they played with the width of. | 00:45:54 | |
| Of the lots, that's like swapping. | 00:45:58 | |
| Forum. Sorry just to. | 00:46:00 | |
| That's more 61 on the corner lots. | 00:46:02 | |
| The 46 is only to the corner, just it's a lot wider than the. | 00:46:04 | |
| Done before. Yeah, Yeah. | 00:46:10 | |
| That's what I was trying to say. | 00:46:11 | |
| Thank you. | 00:46:12 | |
| Alright, that's fine. | 00:46:14 | |
| And then, but in terms of the number of lots, there is been no changes so. | 00:46:16 | |
| The number so there's no So the number of lots that they. | 00:46:22 | |
| That was approved, especially in this phase. | 00:46:25 | |
| Is the same number of lots as it currently shows right now. I just want to make sure that's on record. | 00:46:29 | |
| Yes, that is OK. Nothing has changed. OK. I just want to make sure that's that's out there. | 00:46:33 | |
| OK. And it's it's our it's our public record that. | 00:46:37 | |
| The applicant is not asking for a reduction. | 00:46:41 | |
| Of lots or increase of lots? Lot numbers suggest that was asking for a reconfiguration of the lots and. | 00:46:44 | |
| Again, Napkins is here on both I believe online and in person, but. | 00:46:52 | |
| Please correct me if I'm wrong, but that's just to allow for the flexibility of. | 00:46:57 | |
| There are car garages, 3 car garages or like bigger garages or. | 00:47:01 | |
| So I'll just say configuration of some of the. | 00:47:05 | |
| Some of the units to reflect the market. | 00:47:08 | |
| Need desires? | 00:47:12 | |
| But I won't. | 00:47:14 | |
| Speak for the applicant so. | 00:47:16 | |
| On that and they're here. Would you like to speak? | 00:47:18 | |
| On that. | 00:47:21 | |
| I just want to make sure that's my records. | 00:47:22 | |
| Eric Mcelwee of Goodborough. | 00:47:24 | |
| This is primarily an active adult community and we've had a lot of. | 00:47:28 | |
| Well, not. | 00:47:32 | |
| We have had some people. | 00:47:34 | |
| That are active adults that. | 00:47:36 | |
| Like to have an extra garage, you know, they have their little sports car or whatever and. | 00:47:38 | |
| And the currently the option we have right now is just two car garage and they have the ability to. | 00:47:43 | |
| To lice or get a permit for one parking on the street, so it doesn't really change any of the parking requirements for. | 00:47:49 | |
| Having more cars on the streets, but it just allows that and then we've also. | 00:47:57 | |
| Develop some new house plans that I wouldn't say they're that much smaller, but they just are on a narrower lot. | 00:48:03 | |
| And so that gives us the flexibility of kind of a. | 00:48:09 | |
| Just to meet the market. | 00:48:13 | |
| Some people don't want to. I mean, the prices are getting more and more expensive in this development, so we'd like to have the | 00:48:14 | |
| option of. | 00:48:17 | |
| Providing. | 00:48:20 | |
| Some options that are. | 00:48:21 | |
| I'm not quite as expensive. | 00:48:23 | |
| So that was the purpose of it. | 00:48:25 | |
| Try out a couple new. | 00:48:28 | |
| Things to see how the market kind of responds to it. | 00:48:29 | |
| All right. Well, thank you very much. | 00:48:34 | |
| So is there any other questions? | 00:48:36 | |
| Out there. Appreciate that. Anything from engineering, Patrick. | 00:48:38 | |
| No. | 00:48:43 | |
| Anthony previously stated that. | 00:48:46 | |
| We had requested an utility overlay because the utilities had already been built in this neighborhood and we requested an overlay | 00:48:48 | |
| just to see if that interferes with the the new lot. | 00:48:53 | |
| Dimensions. | 00:48:58 | |
| But it does, and they all fit within the the new. | 00:48:59 | |
| Lot dimension dimensions proposed so. | 00:49:02 | |
| We're good on that end. | 00:49:05 | |
| Yeah, the only other item I have. | 00:49:06 | |
| On the plot itself is there's and I believe it may be it may have been addressed but not reflective on what was submitted but. | 00:49:10 | |
| There's 2 notes on there for. | 00:49:17 | |
| Pacific horror rock mountain Power note as well as. | 00:49:21 | |
| In bridge gas is just is a standardized note down there that has to be on every single plot. | 00:49:25 | |
| So it's I'm sure, just make sure it's a that's administrative. | 00:49:30 | |
| That would be the speed administrative update and should be on the final one. | 00:49:34 | |
| Not a big deal. | 00:49:37 | |
| All right, so. | 00:49:38 | |
| Is there any comments from? | 00:49:41 | |
| Up here, so I'll start off with the building department. | 00:49:43 | |
| No comments from building. | 00:49:46 | |
| Fire Department. | 00:49:47 | |
| No comment. | 00:49:49 | |
| Our public works engineering you've already received our comments and then Brian for. | 00:49:50 | |
| No comments, Mr. David Cowell. | 00:49:54 | |
| Looks good. | 00:49:57 | |
| And then planning for cash. | 00:49:57 | |
| Great. That being said. | 00:50:01 | |
| As so anything else? | 00:50:04 | |
| Any other comments out there before? | 00:50:07 | |
| Before we move forward. | 00:50:09 | |
| Now everyone again again, we're excited to have on. | 00:50:13 | |
| To see. | 00:50:18 | |
| To see. | 00:50:20 | |
| Progress happen on things that have improved and obviously and then of course working with the developers. | 00:50:21 | |
| To ensure that. | 00:50:28 | |
| Not only is the developer successful, the cities are. The city is successful as well. So. | 00:50:30 | |
| On there. So that being said, is there a motion out there for this? | 00:50:36 | |
| So for the plat subdivision plots, final plat holdaway fields Phase 2B as in Bravo. | 00:50:40 | |
| I'll move. | 00:50:50 | |
| OK, as recorded with the conditions presented. | 00:50:51 | |
| Cool, so I have a first, is there a second? | 00:50:54 | |
| Second. All right. Yes, I got a second SO. | 00:50:59 | |
| Again, all in favor of approving the pot. | 00:51:02 | |
| Aye, aye. | 00:51:04 | |
| Any opposed? | 00:51:06 | |
| And hearing nothing opposed the plots. | 00:51:08 | |
| So plot 26-0015 Subdivision final plot totally fields. | 00:51:10 | |
| Phase 2B as in Bravo is approved with conditions. | 00:51:16 | |
| On that. So thank you very much. | 00:51:20 | |
| All right. So that being said, we are at the end of our. | 00:51:23 | |
| Session. | 00:51:29 | |
| Is there any staff or other reports that would like to be done? | 00:51:30 | |
| OK, here at none and then again I can. | 00:51:37 | |
| For those members of the public out there, I will welcome. | 00:51:40 | |
| Anyone who would like to make any kind of comments, if anything at all. | 00:51:44 | |
| Nope. Hearing none, I will. | 00:51:47 | |
| Adjourn this meeting. We don't need a motion. | 00:51:52 | |
| And I am not going to take one. | 00:51:55 | |
| So this means been adjourned and congratulations. | 00:51:56 | |
| Once again to Brian Baldry. | 00:51:59 | |
| And myself. | 00:52:02 | |
| For chair and vice chair. | 00:52:03 | |
| Thank you very much. | 00:52:04 |
Transcript
| If that doesn't work, I can forward the invite. They're just got it. | 00:01:01 | |
| Cool guys ready? | 00:01:15 | |
| So welcome to. | 00:01:18 | |
| The Development Review Committee special session meeting, March 12th, 2026. | 00:01:22 | |
| Excuse me, the time is now. | 00:01:28 | |
| 902. | 00:01:31 | |
| And calling this into session. | 00:01:33 | |
| So. | 00:01:37 | |
| Whatever. | 00:01:40 | |
| That being said. | 00:01:42 | |
| Just want to take a roll call in terms of the individuals who are here. | 00:01:47 | |
| Minus the members of the public. | 00:01:52 | |
| On that. So let's start off to my. | 00:01:55 | |
| Military left Madison. | 00:01:57 | |
| Would you like to? | 00:01:59 | |
| Start off. | 00:02:01 | |
| Madison Reed. | 00:02:04 | |
| Planning Tech. | 00:02:05 | |
| Cashantium representing planning today. | 00:02:07 | |
| David Kyle representing the mayor. | 00:02:16 | |
| Brian Vaudrey, parks and rec director. | 00:02:19 | |
| In the same door. | 00:02:23 | |
| For the works engineering. | 00:02:25 | |
| Brandon Valley Orem Fire Department. | 00:02:27 | |
| Chris Johnson, building official. | 00:02:30 | |
| Patrick James, assistant city engineer. | 00:02:35 | |
| And the person who is excused is ants Anthony Fletcher, who is he is currently. | 00:02:37 | |
| Right there. | 00:02:43 | |
| He will be here soon. OK, so Anthony Fletcher is online. Who else do we have online? Nobody right now, but I believe Nate Birchall | 00:02:45 | |
| with. | 00:02:48 | |
| Hold away fields will be. | 00:02:53 | |
| Joining Remote OK Sweet to discuss their plot. | 00:02:54 | |
| All right, great. | 00:02:57 | |
| So that being said. | 00:02:59 | |
| Let me ask the question to. | 00:03:01 | |
| Mr. Cashancy, do we just want to jump into the consent items or do we want to go into our business items? | 00:03:04 | |
| We can do the consent item for well. | 00:03:10 | |
| I don't care. | 00:03:13 | |
| We could do 3.1, then the consent item and then 3.2. | 00:03:14 | |
| If that makes sense. | 00:03:18 | |
| That's fine, so let's just jump to. | 00:03:19 | |
| Our consent items 2.21. | 00:03:22 | |
| Our approval of January 22nd, 2026 Development Review Committee minutes. | 00:03:24 | |
| So this is. | 00:03:29 | |
| For those people who have any questions about the minutes, so. | 00:03:32 | |
| I'll go around. Is there anyone who has a question in regards to the minutes or any comments? | 00:03:36 | |
| All motion to approve the minutes as presented. I have a first on. | 00:03:41 | |
| Approval of the minutes to have a second. | 00:03:45 | |
| I second. | 00:03:48 | |
| Sorry, all right. That being said. | 00:03:50 | |
| No, all in favor for approving the minutes. | 00:03:53 | |
| Aye, aye. | 00:03:56 | |
| So everyone's approval on the minutes. | 00:03:58 | |
| So let's just jump down to and Cash. Will you be speaking on 3.1 or will Anthony be doing that one? | 00:04:00 | |
| I mean, I can we just. | 00:04:07 | |
| With it being a new year, I think this might be the first. | 00:04:09 | |
| Second DRC. We. | 00:04:12 | |
| We just need to. | 00:04:14 | |
| Hold an election of a chair and a vice chair for this body to move forward. | 00:04:16 | |
| The previous chair was the city manager and that position is taken by the mayor in this case. So we just have to do a reelection | 00:04:21 | |
| since the the city manager position technically held the chair. | 00:04:28 | |
| Eric was elected as the chair but was he's no longer with the city. We need to do new election. | 00:04:35 | |
| OK. So just as a reminder, the positions of the chair and vice chair and so forth is and then maybe Cash or Anthony can. | 00:04:40 | |
| So let me just go backtrack. So we're officially going into our Business Times 3.1 Chair and Vice Chair reelection. | 00:04:49 | |
| The So just for the members of the public, those who are. | 00:04:57 | |
| Attendance and those who are. | 00:05:03 | |
| Online, the committee will nominate and then elect a new chair and vice chair position for the remainder of the 2026 calendar. | 00:05:06 | |
| Count and we could go based on the calendar year. It's not physical years. | 00:05:14 | |
| How about this? | 00:05:18 | |
| If again, cash or Anthony or even Madison if you like. | 00:05:20 | |
| Just a quick summary in terms of. | 00:05:24 | |
| Maybe for members of the public, in terms of why this is a committee. | 00:05:26 | |
| Actual committee with the chairs and vice chairs. | 00:05:30 | |
| And correct me if I'm wrong and I'm you know I may be wrong but. | 00:05:33 | |
| The chair and vice chair, is it the person or is it the? | 00:05:37 | |
| Position Who's who's represent? | 00:05:41 | |
| Elected so. | 00:05:44 | |
| I'll say, is this a? | 00:05:46 | |
| I'm the vice chair. | 00:05:47 | |
| Myself specifically. | 00:05:48 | |
| And then I take honor roll of. | 00:05:50 | |
| You know. | 00:05:53 | |
| I don't know grounds maintenance technician. | 00:05:55 | |
| Because I that's my. | 00:05:59 | |
| Desire. | 00:06:01 | |
| To be a. | 00:06:03 | |
| You know. | 00:06:03 | |
| To go out and plant flowers. | 00:06:04 | |
| Do I still hold the vice chair position or does that position go to whoever becomes whoever decides to take my spot and Patrick | 00:06:08 | |
| don't have any? | 00:06:12 | |
| Ideas out there? | 00:06:16 | |
| But I guess that's that's that is I just want. | 00:06:17 | |
| Make sure that we all have the understanding of the actual. | 00:06:20 | |
| Formality of that. | 00:06:24 | |
| Yeah, I'll, I'll double check on the code on that, but I do believe it is the person and the position. | 00:06:25 | |
| So if you were to move to ground maintenance or something like that, we would hold a new election for that position. For me, for | 00:06:30 | |
| example, I'm just representing planning. I'm the code says the city planner or their designee. | 00:06:36 | |
| Right now we're working on filling that position of the city planner. So I'm just currently the designee. So I mean I. | 00:06:42 | |
| Couldn't be the chair vice chair in this? | 00:06:46 | |
| Instance. | 00:06:49 | |
| OK, that's my interpretation of it. I can double check the the code itself. | 00:06:50 | |
| Get back to you. | 00:06:55 | |
| Next week on that and then for those people here, the duties of the Chair and Vice Chair. | 00:06:57 | |
| Yeah, the the main purpose, the the main duty of the chair is just to help. | 00:07:02 | |
| Our department with the formation of the agenda, just to make sure that we're getting it published on time. | 00:07:06 | |
| It's also to help her on the meetings as you're doing now. | 00:07:11 | |
| That's pretty much it's a fairly informal position. The purpose of this body is is as state law requires, we need a body to an | 00:07:16 | |
| official body to approve Platts. | 00:07:21 | |
| And so an administrative body I should say that to approve plats. And so that's the purpose of the the formal. | 00:07:27 | |
| Body here. | 00:07:33 | |
| But then we've also used this, as you'll see today with Huntsman Cancer Institute, as a way for us to review development coming | 00:07:34 | |
| into the city. | 00:07:37 | |
| That way we can get everybody all eyes on on these applications as they come in and keep them moving forward and and hopefully | 00:07:41 | |
| I'll be on the same page as as these projects start developing in the city. | 00:07:46 | |
| OK, that's great. I appreciate that. And of course as always applicants out there current feature and. | 00:07:51 | |
| You know those are considering becoming an applicant to the city. We do have a pre app meeting. | 00:07:59 | |
| That is a courtesy to any. | 00:08:05 | |
| Person out there who has who has a desire to give feedback. | 00:08:07 | |
| An informal setting as well, so. | 00:08:10 | |
| I always encourage people to take advantage of the planners. | 00:08:13 | |
| Pre application meetings. | 00:08:16 | |
| Just to yeah, absolutely. | 00:08:18 | |
| For that less formal setting and also. | 00:08:19 | |
| You know, as a city. | 00:08:22 | |
| You know we're here to help. | 00:08:24 | |
| And we're here to provide. | 00:08:25 | |
| Feedback as we can. | 00:08:26 | |
| All right, with that being said, let's just jump into this chair and Vice chair reelection. | 00:08:28 | |
| Out there so if there's anyone else who has questions in regards to. | 00:08:33 | |
| The formalities or. | 00:08:38 | |
| The roles, responsibilities, you know. | 00:08:41 | |
| Go. I'll leave that to you, but if not, I can always. | 00:08:44 | |
| Technology we can. | 00:08:48 | |
| I hear nominations. | 00:08:49 | |
| Quiet. | 00:08:59 | |
| I'd like to nominate Nassim Gandhar as. | 00:09:01 | |
| Commission Chair. | 00:09:05 | |
| Lucky you. | 00:09:10 | |
| I'll second the motion. | 00:09:13 | |
| Thanks, nomination. All right. Are we doing chairs and then Vice chair? Are we doing? Sure, let's do chairman, vice, you decide. | 00:09:14 | |
| I decide great. | 00:09:22 | |
| All right. Well, that being said, we have a nominee for Vice Chair. | 00:09:27 | |
| So I think we've gone around. | 00:09:36 | |
| Chris is shaking. I'll nominate Brian as the vice chair. | 00:09:42 | |
| I'll second that nomination. | 00:09:46 | |
| OK. All right. So we have two. | 00:09:49 | |
| 2 nominations out there, one for chair and one for vice chair, myself for chair. | 00:09:52 | |
| And Brian, Brian Valdrie for Vice Chair. | 00:09:56 | |
| I think we should have that flipped around, but. | 00:09:59 | |
| I think Brian just got done with a year of being chair so. | 00:10:02 | |
| I appreciate your service, Sir. | 00:10:05 | |
| That being said. | 00:10:07 | |
| Is there anyone else who would like to protest those nominations? I'll say that or forever hold your peace. | 00:10:10 | |
| If there is none, so let's just go ahead with the votes. Is this a roll call vote? | 00:10:17 | |
| I don't think it needs to be no. OK, so since this doesn't have to be a roll call though, let's go ahead with. | 00:10:23 | |
| Anyone who would like to. | 00:10:28 | |
| Start off with the yeas. | 00:10:31 | |
| Yay from that and is there anyone else? | 00:10:33 | |
| Is there one unanimous on that? | 00:10:39 | |
| So yay. | 00:10:41 | |
| Yeah, yeah. All right. Any names out there? | 00:10:43 | |
| Nope, nothing. | 00:10:47 | |
| So that's official. So congratulations to myself and Brian Valdry for. | 00:10:48 | |
| Doing chair and vice chair for the. | 00:10:53 | |
| Calendar year of 2026 and let the record note I abstained. | 00:10:55 | |
| Thank you, Sir. | 00:10:59 | |
| All right. With that being said, we have business item. | 00:11:03 | |
| 3.2. | 00:11:06 | |
| 3.2 is plot 26 dash. | 00:11:07 | |
| 0015. | 00:11:11 | |
| Subdivision. | 00:11:13 | |
| Final plot to hold away fields face. | 00:11:14 | |
| 2B as in Bravo. | 00:11:16 | |
| So Anthony is? | 00:11:18 | |
| Just a few minutes away. | 00:11:21 | |
| He had an emergency this morning he had to take care of. | 00:11:23 | |
| I I have not reviewed that plat so I would prefer recommend that we move to the Huntsman Cancer Institute presentation. | 00:11:27 | |
| First, OK. | 00:11:34 | |
| We just, I don't have it pulled up, Anthony. | 00:11:38 | |
| I think so. I don't think the Huntsman Cancer Institute one will take too long. I can give. | 00:11:46 | |
| When we introduce item, I can give some brief background on this postponed item 3.2. | 00:11:51 | |
| And jump into I am 4.1. | 00:11:56 | |
| Work session. | 00:11:58 | |
| So do we have? | 00:12:02 | |
| We ought to motion to work to enter a work session. | 00:12:03 | |
| OK, sweet. Just. | 00:12:06 | |
| This is the site plan Huntsman Cancer Institute, Vineyard Vineyard Clinic and Research. | 00:12:07 | |
| Yeah. I can just give some background here and we have Braden here with the applicant to answer and maybe any questions that we | 00:12:12 | |
| have. | 00:12:15 | |
| But essentially Huntsman. | 00:12:19 | |
| Cancer Institute is, you know, they're, they're building in the Utah City development. | 00:12:20 | |
| It is a state agency or state owned land and so we as a city don't have. | 00:12:24 | |
| Much ability to control the zoning or the construction or anything like that. And so they've been great working with us when we do | 00:12:28 | |
| have recommendations and stuff like that. | 00:12:33 | |
| They've been great to work with us and listen. | 00:12:37 | |
| To us on those. | 00:12:40 | |
| But we for the most part just wanted to make this body aware of their plans as they start to to. | 00:12:41 | |
| You know, move some dirt over there, what's going on, and then perhaps if there's any feedback or anything like that when it comes | 00:12:47 | |
| to how the project ties into the. | 00:12:52 | |
| The rest of the city, you know, that's where we can really have our biggest impact. | 00:12:56 | |
| And with that I don't know if you want to. | 00:13:01 | |
| Call for comments if people have had the opportunity to review these. | 00:13:04 | |
| These plans already. | 00:13:07 | |
| I know Patrick had a few comments he wanted to kind of talk over. | 00:13:09 | |
| And maybe we could start with those. | 00:13:12 | |
| Yeah. | 00:13:14 | |
| Well, let's go with comments on that. | 00:13:16 | |
| I guess is there any comments from Anthony? | 00:13:20 | |
| Or excuse me cashier that want to review this one. I mean our. | 00:13:23 | |
| Our biggest comment is it just has to do with as this is a state owned land. | 00:13:26 | |
| Are really our only thing that we control. | 00:13:31 | |
| In terms of zoning is we want to make sure the impact of the site remains on the site. | 00:13:34 | |
| And so that would be something like making sure that they are at their parking minimums that are recommendation which also they | 00:13:38 | |
| want their site to be successful and I know they are going to be working with. | 00:13:42 | |
| Flag Borough on a shared parking agreement. | 00:13:47 | |
| And I don't know if that's going to happen in a later phase or if the parking that they're proposing right now is is adequate for | 00:13:50 | |
| the. | 00:13:53 | |
| That use, you know for the Phase 1 use. | 00:13:56 | |
| But that's essentially is, is if is there going to be any uses of the site spilling into the neighboring blocks? If so, we we | 00:13:59 | |
| definitely want to have some some comments on that and. | 00:14:04 | |
| Go over those, but as of right now I'm not aware of any. | 00:14:09 | |
| OK, that's fine. | 00:14:12 | |
| Appreciate that and I know. | 00:14:16 | |
| Looking through this, there is some comments from engineering specifically and I'll just give kind of a hierarchy comment and | 00:14:18 | |
| enforce Patrick. | 00:14:21 | |
| He can provide some. | 00:14:25 | |
| Detailed comments and of course. | 00:14:27 | |
| Just for the applicant out there, you're always welcome to have a. | 00:14:29 | |
| You're always welcome to have a. | 00:14:36 | |
| A offline one-on-one session with myself and Patrick and to provide some more detailed stuff and. | 00:14:38 | |
| Or comments? Excuse me or. | 00:14:46 | |
| The back end and have the back and forth. So I just want to make sure that applicant does know that this is not a. | 00:14:47 | |
| Our conversation does not have to be. | 00:14:52 | |
| Just in this formal setting. | 00:14:54 | |
| And itself. | 00:14:56 | |
| Yeah. So just just overarching comments here, We just want to make sure kind of what Cash said that this impacts to the sides kind | 00:14:57 | |
| of is maintained not to this side. | 00:15:01 | |
| So that same theme. | 00:15:07 | |
| We do have some, we have some generalized comments and it might be a great time, even after this meeting, to have a conversation | 00:15:10 | |
| with the person to my right. | 00:15:14 | |
| Brandon from the Orem Fire Department. | 00:15:19 | |
| We do have some concerns about fire access and into the site. | 00:15:21 | |
| I know. | 00:15:26 | |
| We provide the odds of turn. | 00:15:28 | |
| Analysis for. | 00:15:31 | |
| Truck access and fire access into the site where? | 00:15:34 | |
| It seemed like the. | 00:15:38 | |
| Some of the turns were going into oncoming oncoming lanes or even to parks parking stalls. | 00:15:40 | |
| So we just want to make sure that those things are being mitigated. | 00:15:47 | |
| Specifically. | 00:15:52 | |
| On that. So that is so those are the some of the overarching comments on regards to the. | 00:15:54 | |
| Turn radiuses. | 00:16:01 | |
| On that, so I know that's. | 00:16:03 | |
| You know that that may affect your site. | 00:16:06 | |
| Out specifically and then the other thing on there for the applicants and Patrick and I'll give time over to you in a minute, but | 00:16:09 | |
| can go into this. | 00:16:13 | |
| In regards to parking, the city does have. | 00:16:18 | |
| Even though the planners aren't specifically detailing out the parking. | 00:16:21 | |
| Requirements. | 00:16:26 | |
| Per se, but the city itself does have our standards and specifications in terms of parking stalls. | 00:16:28 | |
| Where drive lanes are 26 feet wide and then. | 00:16:33 | |
| Parking stalls themselves are 20 feet deep unless they bud up to like a landscaping strip. | 00:16:38 | |
| Where then there's allowance to. | 00:16:43 | |
| For the vehicle bumper I believe. | 00:16:46 | |
| It's like encroach into the landscaping strip itself. | 00:16:50 | |
| But. | 00:16:54 | |
| Those are those are some of the overarching. | 00:16:55 | |
| Questions that we have concerned about in terms of. | 00:16:57 | |
| Parking itself. | 00:16:59 | |
| On that, the drive out specifically does come to. | 00:17:02 | |
| To be a fire. | 00:17:06 | |
| For us, again, it's not just vehicle or access, but fire. | 00:17:07 | |
| Access as well. | 00:17:10 | |
| But Patrick, I can turn the time over to you if you want to give anything specific or if there's anything else you would like to | 00:17:11 | |
| add. | 00:17:14 | |
| Yeah, you covered those items. | 00:17:18 | |
| Pretty well the. | 00:17:21 | |
| Yeah, for the parking it. | 00:17:22 | |
| With with an 18 foot. | 00:17:24 | |
| Back-to-back stalls and 20 foot. | 00:17:27 | |
| 24 foot Dr. aisle it it creates a really tight. | 00:17:30 | |
| Aisle. Especially when when. | 00:17:33 | |
| Vehicles tend to hang. | 00:17:35 | |
| Hang out of the stall. | 00:17:38 | |
| With the 18 foot. | 00:17:40 | |
| So we would suggest that if possible. | 00:17:41 | |
| To increase that. | 00:17:46 | |
| And like Naseem mentioned, I'm not sure if. | 00:17:48 | |
| Fire was looking at fire axis through. | 00:17:52 | |
| The parking lot on this. | 00:17:54 | |
| On the to get access to this side of the building, but I believe fire likes to have 26 foot Dr. aisles as well. | 00:17:56 | |
| I can speak to that this also. | 00:18:03 | |
| You know, I'm in the same position. It falls under the state Fire Marshall's office. And so I believe they've been reviewing it. I | 00:18:06 | |
| was part of a couple of the reviews. | 00:18:09 | |
| Generally speaking. | 00:18:13 | |
| The appendix in IFC. | 00:18:16 | |
| States that have hits over 30 feet to the. | 00:18:19 | |
| Top of the roof. | 00:18:22 | |
| The highest part of the roof, then it needs to be a 26 foot. | 00:18:23 | |
| Fire access for ladder truck access. | 00:18:27 | |
| Do you know if the states? | 00:18:31 | |
| Specifically taking a look at the 24 foot widths. | 00:18:32 | |
| Sorry, just for the wreck, we have to have you speak in the microphone if that's OK. | 00:18:37 | |
| Hi. | 00:18:44 | |
| Yeah, Braden Alsop. I'm with Kim Horn representing the civil. | 00:18:45 | |
| And representing applicant. | 00:18:49 | |
| We can follow up on the review specifically for the 24 foot. | 00:18:53 | |
| Widths. I will note that if you. | 00:18:56 | |
| Pan up this. | 00:18:58 | |
| Whole area, that Gray line. | 00:19:00 | |
| The future phase is going to be a parking structure here. | 00:19:03 | |
| I know that's something they've been considering as well. | 00:19:07 | |
| But I just wanted to note that. | 00:19:10 | |
| Just for awareness, that's that Gray line, yeah, that you're outlining right now. | 00:19:11 | |
| So this will be a. | 00:19:16 | |
| Parking structure. | 00:19:17 | |
| In the future. But we can. | 00:19:18 | |
| Look into I guess. | 00:19:21 | |
| To follow up as well the. | 00:19:23 | |
| Furthest West. | 00:19:25 | |
| Stalls. | 00:19:27 | |
| Because those have the landscape strip those would be. | 00:19:28 | |
| Still falling within compliance according to city code with the 18 foot. Is that correct? Yes. | 00:19:33 | |
| That's correct. That would be correct. I believe the east ones would as well. Yeah, it's mainly the ones just the center aisles, | 00:19:37 | |
| center aisles specifically, but also we want to make sure that. | 00:19:41 | |
| If it's a butts up to a sidewalk that. | 00:19:46 | |
| The sidewalk is not a fair game. | 00:19:49 | |
| Buffer overhang. | 00:19:52 | |
| I think our code says that if there's. | 00:19:54 | |
| Only a 5 foot sidewalk and then the building and then the parking stall we can't allow. | 00:19:56 | |
| Overhang. | 00:20:00 | |
| But once again, that's our code. | 00:20:01 | |
| OK. Yeah, We can follow up with the state on that, specifically with those Dr. widths as well. | 00:20:05 | |
| OK for the. | 00:20:12 | |
| Turn radius that. | 00:20:15 | |
| Missy mentioned earlier. | 00:20:16 | |
| I I believe that it'll and I apologize my. | 00:20:20 | |
| Blue beam is not refreshing very quickly, so it's a little bit fuzzy. | 00:20:23 | |
| But I believe this could fit. | 00:20:29 | |
| Just fine without the IT come as the truck. | 00:20:31 | |
| Comes out of the. | 00:20:35 | |
| Out of the site, it runs into those parking stalls across the street. | 00:20:37 | |
| But I I think with some. | 00:20:42 | |
| There it goes. | 00:20:44 | |
| With some finagling I think I think it could fit. | 00:20:46 | |
| Fit just fine. | 00:20:49 | |
| But that could be something. | 00:20:51 | |
| Or that should be something that we we should be aware of. | 00:20:52 | |
| With that and check to see if that would interfere with parking stalls because I don't want. | 00:20:56 | |
| You know when cars are parked right there, the truck not being able to get out, right? We could post a sign on the street that | 00:21:01 | |
| says no parking during fires. | 00:21:06 | |
| Yeah, during fires. | 00:21:11 | |
| It's a great idea. | 00:21:12 | |
| There is a section in the code that does. | 00:21:14 | |
| Does say or portion thereof? | 00:21:16 | |
| So if there's a specific. | 00:21:19 | |
| Fire. You know, like the ladder truck. | 00:21:20 | |
| Portion, but then that means that you're losing. | 00:21:24 | |
| Parking spaces. | 00:21:27 | |
| Because it's specifically set aside for. | 00:21:29 | |
| That instance which isn't. | 00:21:32 | |
| The most popular idea? That's why. | 00:21:34 | |
| 26 feet. | 00:21:36 | |
| The general standard. | 00:21:37 | |
| Yeah, and I. | 00:21:39 | |
| I agree. I think we could. | 00:21:40 | |
| Check the radius on this as well. For that turn route, I think there's a. | 00:21:43 | |
| Chance that we could avoid those stalls just with the. | 00:21:48 | |
| Software, we're using that in that. | 00:21:51 | |
| That's something that we can, certainly. | 00:21:53 | |
| Look into further. | 00:21:55 | |
| Yeah. And then the other comment, I just want to make sure, again, excuse me, this is on the technical side. | 00:21:57 | |
| I do understand that. | 00:22:03 | |
| You're having a state review. | 00:22:05 | |
| The facility and. | 00:22:06 | |
| Some of the other things, however, the infrastructure does tie into the Vineyard City. | 00:22:08 | |
| So it's if. | 00:22:12 | |
| Vineyard City's infrastructure standards and details. | 00:22:13 | |
| And I'll have a car. I can never have problems talking to state officials about this. | 00:22:17 | |
| Ours Trump. | 00:22:21 | |
| The requirements. | 00:22:23 | |
| Over the state is to ensure that there is kept act. | 00:22:24 | |
| Capability. | 00:22:28 | |
| And. | 00:22:30 | |
| Synergy on that so our and we and the awesome thing about it I give. | 00:22:31 | |
| 110% credit to Patrick James over there. | 00:22:37 | |
| Who worked very diligently to update our. | 00:22:40 | |
| Infrastructure standards. | 00:22:43 | |
| Construction design. Construction standards. | 00:22:45 | |
| We do align to the Utah APWA. | 00:22:48 | |
| A lot. I want to say 100%. | 00:22:51 | |
| On there, but please it's available on our website. | 00:22:54 | |
| Right. It's available on our website. Please go through that to ensure that there's any kind of specialty. | 00:22:57 | |
| I I say items on there is being reflected to the cities item because we do provide, we do provide the. | 00:23:04 | |
| Infrastructure services to this. | 00:23:10 | |
| To the facility and we are the first responders when it comes to. | 00:23:13 | |
| Addressing that. So we just want to ensure that. | 00:23:16 | |
| Our standards are being followed. | 00:23:19 | |
| And that anything that we have to do to help support. | 00:23:21 | |
| HCR that we're able to do, especially on. | 00:23:25 | |
| Equipment, uh. | 00:23:27 | |
| Equipment on hand. | 00:23:29 | |
| On that, but for the most part, we were proud to say that we aligned to Utah. | 00:23:30 | |
| Utah, a PWA. | 00:23:34 | |
| Like 90%. | 00:23:36 | |
| So yeah, we'll definitely. | 00:23:38 | |
| Comply with that as well. It's not too much, it's usually quirks. I think what part of the stuff it really does fall into, like | 00:23:41 | |
| some differences when it comes to meters. | 00:23:45 | |
| Like the water, the connections and so forth. TSSD is the provider out here. | 00:23:48 | |
| So TSD will have to have a review of this. | 00:23:53 | |
| As well, and Patrick will coordinate that with TSST. Is that correct? | 00:23:57 | |
| Yeah. So we'll coordinate that and we can't promise what TSST will say or we'll say. | 00:24:01 | |
| But we will be a happy partner with you. | 00:24:06 | |
| OK. Thank you. | 00:24:09 | |
| Yeah. So I don't, I don't know if we want to run through all the technical. | 00:24:11 | |
| Comments. Technique. I would. I mean, I'd rather just do overarching thing for the interest of time, but again we're this is the | 00:24:15 | |
| applicant's time as well. | 00:24:19 | |
| So if you would like to hear if there's more. | 00:24:24 | |
| Like general type of things. | 00:24:26 | |
| We're happy. | 00:24:29 | |
| Please, Patrick, say. | 00:24:30 | |
| We're also, I mean, I sincerely just. | 00:24:32 | |
| If you already have Patrick my my e-mail just. | 00:24:35 | |
| Please go before you leave. | 00:24:39 | |
| And so, yeah, definitely, let's have a meeting and we'll spend, you know, an hour or two hours, four hours. | 00:24:40 | |
| Or however long it takes to. | 00:24:45 | |
| To go through all the comments and, and, and you know, and make it make sure it's a 2. It's a two way conversation too. | 00:24:47 | |
| We're happy to. | 00:24:52 | |
| Hear what your thoughts are. | 00:24:53 | |
| To ensure that's a site successful. | 00:24:55 | |
| Yeah, yeah. | 00:24:58 | |
| As far as the technical comments there, there wasn't anything. | 00:24:59 | |
| Huge on on that end. Probably the main main question was looping the water line. | 00:25:03 | |
| Figuring out. | 00:25:10 | |
| How to do that rather than just having a dead end, But we can talk about specialties because you have to have, I believe HCI | 00:25:11 | |
| requested a secondary service line. | 00:25:16 | |
| In order for the as emergency backup. | 00:25:21 | |
| On that one, so that would be important. | 00:25:24 | |
| The last thing I do have on there is that. | 00:25:26 | |
| The landscaping portion of it. | 00:25:29 | |
| We would ask that you will work with us on the landscaping. | 00:25:31 | |
| My types we do have a landscaping manual. | 00:25:36 | |
| And we put great pains into that to ensure that the landscaping. | 00:25:40 | |
| The landscaping complements. | 00:25:45 | |
| Our water reuse. | 00:25:47 | |
| Guidelines as well as the temperature, the temperament that's down here. | 00:25:51 | |
| George Strammer, arborist. | 00:25:55 | |
| Is our. | 00:25:57 | |
| Local experts. | 00:26:01 | |
| Now in terms of. | 00:26:03 | |
| That's seemingly. That's another. That's something else. | 00:26:06 | |
| Now we just ask that. | 00:26:11 | |
| You work with us with. | 00:26:13 | |
| We can send you the tree and landscape manual if you don't have it already. | 00:26:14 | |
| Yeah. That's like I said, it's, it's very, yeah. We can coordinate with our landscape partners as well on that. | 00:26:17 | |
| 100% we George George tram takes very. | 00:26:21 | |
| Great pride and. | 00:26:25 | |
| Great hearts to ensure that trees survive. | 00:26:28 | |
| And like everyone else would like to do so. | 00:26:30 | |
| And then of course, so he can talk hours and hours. | 00:26:32 | |
| About trees. | 00:26:36 | |
| Awesome. | 00:26:38 | |
| All right, so I have a few comments from. | 00:26:41 | |
| That I wanted to. | 00:26:43 | |
| Have you clarify? | 00:26:45 | |
| Landscaping, as Naseem has said, is one of the big things I had from L5 sheet L5. | 00:26:46 | |
| Where you'd have to potentially put in some more landscaping, especially in the islands, at least put in some trees. | 00:26:53 | |
| In the three islands that you have. | 00:27:00 | |
| One of the things I also realized, and I have in my comment is to. | 00:27:03 | |
| Have you go through or use the? | 00:27:08 | |
| Tree Manual the landscaping guide that Naseem talked about because a few of your selections where. | 00:27:11 | |
| Not really in line with what we. | 00:27:17 | |
| Have you know manual? | 00:27:20 | |
| And the reason why the manual is a good thing for you to follow is these are trees. | 00:27:21 | |
| It was put together by people that understand the area better and made great selection of trees and plants. | 00:27:27 | |
| That work well within this area. | 00:27:35 | |
| So that's a big thing. We can share that with you and if there are any things that you are proposing outside of that manual, we | 00:27:37 | |
| can have George review it and. | 00:27:41 | |
| So that's one of the things. | 00:27:47 | |
| The second thing I had, we've talked. | 00:27:50 | |
| Extensively about that was the. | 00:27:52 | |
| The Park Inn. | 00:27:55 | |
| Calculation, so I'm not going to go into that because of time. | 00:27:56 | |
| Um, I will. | 00:28:02 | |
| Say that I mean, I was impressed to have. | 00:28:03 | |
| With the number of stores that you had, you had. | 00:28:05 | |
| Given more. | 00:28:07 | |
| Ada and it's very. | 00:28:09 | |
| Get to have extra ADA especially for hospital. | 00:28:11 | |
| One thing I would like to have. | 00:28:14 | |
| An understanding of is the circulation. | 00:28:17 | |
| Of flow of. | 00:28:20 | |
| Essentially traffic through the site. | 00:28:22 | |
| I was trying to. | 00:28:25 | |
| Make sense out of it, you know, Drive through the site in my mind. | 00:28:27 | |
| And while I did the review, I was. | 00:28:30 | |
| Looking at how the University of Utah. | 00:28:33 | |
| Enhancement Council institute up in Salt Lake. | 00:28:36 | |
| Has overtime had to retrofit? | 00:28:39 | |
| How? | 00:28:41 | |
| The experience is for people to come in. | 00:28:42 | |
| Drop off valet. | 00:28:44 | |
| Rideshare all these. | 00:28:47 | |
| Various ways to get to the hospital and. | 00:28:50 | |
| I was trying to understand. I even you know. | 00:28:55 | |
| Had a short discussion with Patrick here yesterday. | 00:28:57 | |
| What the intent is if this is like a one way in? | 00:29:00 | |
| If you could give us a walk through what the experience is going to be like because. | 00:29:05 | |
| Up on this side, this is not clear if you're doing a. | 00:29:10 | |
| Stop somewhere here. | 00:29:13 | |
| Or you're going to do a mini roundabout that takes you to the parking lot. I understand that there's like future phase to have. | 00:29:15 | |
| Parking structure over here. | 00:29:23 | |
| But having just one entrance into the parking. | 00:29:25 | |
| Lot is. | 00:29:28 | |
| Potentially not the best and. | 00:29:31 | |
| I want to advise or recommend you consider in a second access in here. | 00:29:33 | |
| If that's possible to get into the parking lot. | 00:29:39 | |
| Either from this side without backing up. | 00:29:43 | |
| Any kind of entry ways just. | 00:29:46 | |
| If you have some time to just walk us through what the experience is. | 00:29:49 | |
| Wasn't also sure what the. | 00:29:53 | |
| Turn here is intended to do. | 00:29:55 | |
| Is it taking the same concept like you have at the University of Utah where you have the rideshare folks come here and wait for | 00:29:58 | |
| people? | 00:30:01 | |
| You know, just trying to make sure. | 00:30:06 | |
| We have it synced up and we're not repeating the same mistakes. | 00:30:09 | |
| Up there in Salt Lake. | 00:30:12 | |
| Because even if you go to the Salt Lake Huntsman. | 00:30:13 | |
| You know, institute the big one up in the hospital. | 00:30:18 | |
| You realize the. | 00:30:21 | |
| The Street of Hope. | 00:30:23 | |
| Takes you. | 00:30:25 | |
| Almost away from. | 00:30:26 | |
| How you enter it's, it's a bit wonky. We want to give a better experience for people to access the hospital. | 00:30:27 | |
| As well as experience for people to try to find parking or. | 00:30:33 | |
| Just passed through that area if there is without. | 00:30:37 | |
| You know, distracting folks that probably need to be rushed in. | 00:30:40 | |
| So that's one of the major comments I have. | 00:30:44 | |
| Compiled here. | 00:30:47 | |
| And the second access. | 00:30:51 | |
| These are the main ones for now. | 00:30:53 | |
| We may have to talk about elevations later on. | 00:30:56 | |
| But I'll let you, OK. | 00:30:59 | |
| Talk about. | 00:31:00 | |
| You know the experience walking, you know, walk us through the experience of. | 00:31:01 | |
| How it's going to be with people coming into the hospital right now. | 00:31:05 | |
| Yes, we have that. | 00:31:11 | |
| Entrance on the South side, that's going to be. | 00:31:12 | |
| Cars going. | 00:31:16 | |
| In and then we do have that striping on the right hand side if you zoom in. | 00:31:17 | |
| That's going to be for drop off. | 00:31:22 | |
| Or loading, unloading only. | 00:31:25 | |
| Is it intended to have a backup you know you back into that? | 00:31:26 | |
| That striping. | 00:31:30 | |
| No, that's intended to pull in straight. | 00:31:32 | |
| Straighten it, OK? | 00:31:34 | |
| And then there's bollards there as well. | 00:31:36 | |
| To prevent. | 00:31:37 | |
| Going over the 0 curve there. | 00:31:38 | |
| OK. And then there is that additional you can see it's a different hatch. | 00:31:40 | |
| The ambulance. | 00:31:44 | |
| Yeah, striping, ambulance parking only and then those stalls for clarification. We can. | 00:31:46 | |
| Certainly add this to the plans to this. | 00:31:52 | |
| That that's, that's going to be for valet parking, that's. | 00:31:54 | |
| That's a husbands intent there, yes, OK. | 00:31:57 | |
| How about this area? How's the intersection going to be treated? | 00:32:04 | |
| Yeah, right now that's just the exit from out there, the only people that will be turning left. | 00:32:08 | |
| To go into there, like I said, that would just be the valet. | 00:32:13 | |
| So traffic will continue to flow. | 00:32:17 | |
| Straight there. | 00:32:19 | |
| To exit or enter the parking lot. | 00:32:20 | |
| How about folks trying to get into the parking lot here? Is there going to be a stop sign here to allow people coming from here to | 00:32:23 | |
| get into the parking lot? | 00:32:27 | |
| Yeah, that's something we can certainly look into is more signage in that area to to show that, yeah. | 00:32:32 | |
| Yeah, if we could. | 00:32:37 | |
| You know, just. | 00:32:39 | |
| Overall, think about. | 00:32:39 | |
| Rush moments in the hospital, how this intersection is going to be. | 00:32:41 | |
| An abstraction to. | 00:32:47 | |
| General operations. | 00:32:48 | |
| And again my other comment was. | 00:32:51 | |
| Consider a second exit. | 00:32:53 | |
| Or entrance into the parking lot. | 00:32:55 | |
| One other thing that we obviously could not deduce from the plan was. | 00:32:59 | |
| What the facing is going to be like when? | 00:33:05 | |
| You talk about. | 00:33:08 | |
| Parking structure? Are we looking next 10 years, Five years? | 00:33:09 | |
| It'll be nice to know some of these things to be able to. | 00:33:13 | |
| Help you or? | 00:33:16 | |
| You know, propose sending things to you that makes what we're working with right now. | 00:33:18 | |
| More usable and gives better experience. | 00:33:23 | |
| So it would be nice to know. | 00:33:26 | |
| When the timeline is, yeah, unfortunately I can't give a timeline right now, but we could put together a more cohesive. | 00:33:28 | |
| Prediction on that for the parking structure specifically as it. | 00:33:34 | |
| Relates to. | 00:33:37 | |
| The spacing as well and the access to it. | 00:33:39 | |
| And work with the city further on that. | 00:33:42 | |
| OK. | 00:33:44 | |
| For the interest of time. | 00:33:47 | |
| I will come to get anything else further to you. Brandon, do you have a question to comment? Yeah, just about your your comment | 00:33:48 | |
| about the. | 00:33:52 | |
| Two accesses into that parking lot, what's what's the total square footage of that building that the. | 00:33:57 | |
| Parking lot serves right there. | 00:34:02 | |
| The of the central you. | 00:34:05 | |
| Utility. The northern one, the parking lot services the hospital. Yeah, not the utility plan. | 00:34:07 | |
| OK, gotcha. So people will park there and then walk down to the hospital? | 00:34:12 | |
| Gotcha. OK. | 00:34:16 | |
| Yeah, just in the. | 00:34:18 | |
| I imagine it still meets just one fire department access. | 00:34:22 | |
| To that. | 00:34:28 | |
| That section that's over there with the roads so. | 00:34:29 | |
| Yeah, that was that was my only question. I think it's answered. Sorry. I apologize. My phone was. | 00:34:32 | |
| Giving me text messages through my hearing aid. So it was hard, no worries. | 00:34:37 | |
| Pay attention there modern technology I I guess you sorry about. | 00:34:41 | |
| To clarify on that. | 00:34:46 | |
| For so that being the central utility plant, would it be? | 00:34:47 | |
| Appropriate to have the access for the fire truck just beyond the northern side or does it need to have access from that parking | 00:34:51 | |
| lot as well? | 00:34:55 | |
| What's the height? | 00:34:59 | |
| Oh, I don't know off the top of my head building. Do you know if it's over 30 feet? | 00:35:01 | |
| I should be. | 00:35:04 | |
| For I think I remember seeing plans at one point that had. | 00:35:06 | |
| I don't know if it was over 30 feet or not. | 00:35:12 | |
| You think is it taken from because I know where the utility plants when they're a little bit different, especially with the top | 00:35:14 | |
| exhaust like the features on the top. So we took a. | 00:35:18 | |
| From the. | 00:35:22 | |
| Grade plane to top of any path. | 00:35:24 | |
| Any parrot the parapet ball. | 00:35:26 | |
| I mean, I mean I would. | 00:35:28 | |
| Defer to you, but I doubt would be that go along. | 00:35:30 | |
| Like the main. | 00:35:33 | |
| Yeah, Fisher in 3rd. | 00:35:34 | |
| And those also count as fire department access, so. | 00:35:36 | |
| OK. | 00:35:40 | |
| Yeah, this is two sides. | 00:35:41 | |
| So looks like. | 00:35:43 | |
| You're probably taking care of. | 00:35:45 | |
| And I'm sure the state. | 00:35:48 | |
| Yeah. And then I have a question just. | 00:35:53 | |
| Now, as a father of young kids who like to. | 00:35:55 | |
| Open up drawers and stick. | 00:35:59 | |
| Things in her mouth and swallow. | 00:36:01 | |
| Random objects and then at 3:00 in the morning. | 00:36:03 | |
| In being a frequent. | 00:36:06 | |
| Visitor to the emergency room. | 00:36:07 | |
| Because of those things. | 00:36:09 | |
| This is. | 00:36:10 | |
| This one beyond record is this facility. | 00:36:13 | |
| Going to be providing emergency services. | 00:36:15 | |
| Number in terms of like a emergency room. | 00:36:17 | |
| Or is it just solely? | 00:36:21 | |
| Like more of like that outpatient type. | 00:36:23 | |
| Slowly there will be inpatient services I. | 00:36:25 | |
| Would not be able to speak to the services fully quite as well, OK? | 00:36:28 | |
| But we can follow up on that. I mean, in terms of what specific emergency services, the main things I also I just want to make | 00:36:34 | |
| sure is that when with those things planned that we're. | 00:36:38 | |
| Considering the off site improvements that would be without that, would that should be done? | 00:36:42 | |
| In order to ensure that. | 00:36:47 | |
| Those type of services are being able are. | 00:36:49 | |
| Are being able to be offered on hundreds. | 00:36:52 | |
| On that and. | 00:36:55 | |
| Again, you have a great partner here in Vineyard City as well with the downtown developer. | 00:36:57 | |
| To ensure that any type of off site improvements. | 00:37:02 | |
| Can be accommodated to ensure that. | 00:37:05 | |
| Where that those services are able to be offered. | 00:37:07 | |
| On that. So that was a. | 00:37:11 | |
| OK. I always appreciate the nurses. | 00:37:13 | |
| You know, taking my kids at like, you know, 2:00 in the morning to X-ray the marbles that they decide to stick in their mouth. | 00:37:16 | |
| So. | 00:37:22 | |
| OK. I'm sorry, is there any other, does anyone else have any comments so building department? | 00:37:30 | |
| Only comment would be. | 00:37:35 | |
| Just for Emergency Management, we would request a set of plans for our records, at least a life safety plans. | 00:37:37 | |
| OK. Yeah, at some point that's all I is that comment noted on the plans. | 00:37:44 | |
| No, OK, I'll make note of that then. | 00:37:48 | |
| All right, so you've heard from the fire, You've heard from myself. | 00:37:50 | |
| Public works engineering, You've heard, then Brian Baldry. | 00:37:55 | |
| I had nothing from Brian Valdry, Mr. David Kyle. | 00:37:58 | |
| No, I don't think. | 00:38:03 | |
| David, do you do you see anything? | 00:38:05 | |
| I don't see it either. | 00:38:08 | |
| OK, cool. | 00:38:10 | |
| And then? | 00:38:11 | |
| Mr. Cashancy, No, I'm just excited. | 00:38:13 | |
| This has been a long time coming and we're. | 00:38:15 | |
| Excited to see it develop out. | 00:38:17 | |
| 100% OK that being said, is there anyone again? | 00:38:19 | |
| Is a work session, so we typically don't take any kind of public comments, but. | 00:38:23 | |
| I mean, if there's any comments out there, we're always happy here, but in terms of that. | 00:38:27 | |
| And with the applicant, is there any? | 00:38:33 | |
| Anything else you would like to add? | 00:38:35 | |
| Not from my end at this time. We yeah, we might be taking up on. | 00:38:39 | |
| Meeting together just to go over some of the engineering comments. More in detail later. But yeah, I think for now that's great. | 00:38:42 | |
| 100% OK, Yeah, let's make sure if you again, if you don't already have Patrick's contact, just grab it before you leave. | 00:38:47 | |
| And then? | 00:38:53 | |
| With that being said, we're definitely, everyone here is definitely excited and definitely excited to see this be successful. | 00:38:55 | |
| Across the board. | 00:39:02 | |
| So we're done with our work. It looks like David Pierce had a. | 00:39:03 | |
| Question if you want to introduce OK. | 00:39:07 | |
| I'm happy. | 00:39:09 | |
| Mr. Pierce, member from the public, would you like to say anything? | 00:39:11 | |
| David Pierce Cascade, I just have a question about medical. | 00:39:19 | |
| Transport drop off. | 00:39:22 | |
| If you could clarify that a little bit. | 00:39:25 | |
| For me. | 00:39:28 | |
| How that would have ambulance and. | 00:39:29 | |
| Yeah, I can walk through that part. | 00:39:31 | |
| So in terms of. | 00:39:39 | |
| Your question, if I understand right, was just how. | 00:39:42 | |
| Folks are how patients are going to be dropped off. | 00:39:44 | |
| Oh thanks, not off the path. | 00:39:49 | |
| Cars but. | 00:39:52 | |
| Medical transport. | 00:39:53 | |
| So there's like an ambulance that. | 00:39:54 | |
| And a helicopter pad too. Oh yeah, hell and helicopter. Yeah, there is a helicopter pad as well as the ambulance, right? | 00:39:57 | |
| Is just. | 00:40:04 | |
| I can zoom in here. | 00:40:06 | |
| This is the area that is specifically designated just for ambulance drop off. | 00:40:08 | |
| And then all this concrete here is. | 00:40:13 | |
| Ada accessible to be able to. | 00:40:15 | |
| Get access to the main doors. | 00:40:18 | |
| OK, thanks. I missed that. | 00:40:20 | |
| Oh, all good, yeah. | 00:40:22 | |
| Yeah. Well, thank you very much. | 00:40:25 | |
| All right, thanks. All right, Well, that being said, we'll get out the close or excuse me, the work session. | 00:40:27 | |
| And then we'll start up with the business Iron 3.2. | 00:40:32 | |
| This is the Plat 26-0015 subdivision final Plat holdaway fields. | 00:40:36 | |
| Phase 2. | 00:40:42 | |
| B as in Bravo and so with planners, would you like to start off with that? | 00:40:44 | |
| Is there any way to? | 00:40:48 | |
| Follow up. | 00:40:50 | |
| One question on the ambulance, I'm sorry. | 00:40:50 | |
| Well, since. | 00:40:55 | |
| Started is this started the other one? No problem, Mike. | 00:40:57 | |
| He's got so before you leave us. | 00:41:00 | |
| Yeah, before I leave this, please get with, get with. | 00:41:03 | |
| Good with us. Thank you, Sir. | 00:41:05 | |
| All right, so kind of go with a. | 00:41:07 | |
| Business item. | 00:41:09 | |
| Or the Mr. Fletcher is going to start us off. Thank you. | 00:41:09 | |
| Thank you very much, Naseem. | 00:41:15 | |
| Chair Nassim. | 00:41:17 | |
| So. | 00:41:19 | |
| The applicant for this. | 00:41:21 | |
| Final plat subdivision application. | 00:41:23 | |
| Here we have a good borough being represented. | 00:41:27 | |
| By Nate Burchill Online because he's in. | 00:41:30 | |
| California and Eric Mogul be here. So if we have any direct questions. | 00:41:34 | |
| We can. | 00:41:39 | |
| Also ask them while they're here. | 00:41:40 | |
| So this is part of our continuation of. | 00:41:41 | |
| The ongoing holdaway fields development. | 00:41:45 | |
| The Phase 2 was. | 00:41:47 | |
| Divided was subdivided into phase 2A and B. | 00:41:50 | |
| We had the phase 2A. | 00:41:54 | |
| Approved. | 00:41:57 | |
| In January 22nd of this year. | 00:41:59 | |
| And has not yet been recorded. | 00:42:02 | |
| As part of the development agreement. | 00:42:05 | |
| We required that before any. | 00:42:08 | |
| You know, before they move forward with. | 00:42:12 | |
| Phase 2 they need to. | 00:42:14 | |
| The east terminus. | 00:42:16 | |
| 400 S. | 00:42:18 | |
| To be part of. | 00:42:20 | |
| At least one of the plots with phase two and that was plaited and approved. | 00:42:21 | |
| And as part of Phase 2A. | 00:42:26 | |
| Though it's not been recorded, it's going to be. | 00:42:29 | |
| One of the conditions of approval for this phase 2B, which has. | 00:42:33 | |
| 25 single family homes. | 00:42:37 | |
| That will be serving the senior. | 00:42:40 | |
| Community. | 00:42:42 | |
| Over there. | 00:42:43 | |
| We have worked through. | 00:42:45 | |
| Various. | 00:42:47 | |
| Concerns that we have. | 00:42:49 | |
| We're planning and also engineering. We've been coordinating. | 00:42:51 | |
| Pretty well. | 00:42:55 | |
| The last iteration that came had. | 00:42:56 | |
| Just two things that needed to be updated. That's the signatory and also. | 00:43:01 | |
| I mean signatory for both ownership and. | 00:43:05 | |
| Let me. | 00:43:09 | |
| For both ownership and the City side. | 00:43:11 | |
| And we have spoken with them, they know they have all the comments and. | 00:43:14 | |
| They are going to. | 00:43:20 | |
| Potentially have this updated if there are no further comments. | 00:43:22 | |
| By the DRC. | 00:43:26 | |
| And we also do have. | 00:43:29 | |
| As I had mentioned earlier. | 00:43:31 | |
| Conditions of approval, which is. | 00:43:34 | |
| This has to be. This can be recorded. | 00:43:37 | |
| Or has to be recorded. | 00:43:41 | |
| Right with the 2A. | 00:43:43 | |
| I'm just going to go up there right with a 2A. | 00:43:46 | |
| With a thought that the 2A has. | 00:43:50 | |
| The 400 South Rd. That satisfies the development agreement. | 00:43:53 | |
| Recorded as part of it. | 00:43:59 | |
| So that would be one of the. | 00:44:01 | |
| You know, recommendations or conditions for approval and also we requested that they provide a separate. | 00:44:04 | |
| Document that shows all the ASBEL utilities. | 00:44:12 | |
| Overlaid over the plat because they made some changes to. | 00:44:16 | |
| The plat front. | 00:44:20 | |
| And they have. | 00:44:22 | |
| Provided that to Patrick already. | 00:44:24 | |
| So I believe that condition does not hold. | 00:44:26 | |
| If everything looks good from Patricks end. | 00:44:29 | |
| But as it stands now. | 00:44:33 | |
| We can still hold them to the Florida South. | 00:44:34 | |
| Condition before they can. | 00:44:38 | |
| Record. | 00:44:41 | |
| OK. Thank you. | 00:44:42 | |
| Yes, we appreciate that. And then just to. | 00:44:43 | |
| Go on record the. | 00:44:46 | |
| One more time. | 00:44:48 | |
| Anthony but. | 00:44:50 | |
| Their revision to this plot versus their previous plot on phase 2B there's. | 00:44:51 | |
| There in terms of. | 00:44:56 | |
| Lot numbers. | 00:44:58 | |
| What is the change in lot numbers compared to the original? | 00:45:00 | |
| Are you are you asking the number of lots or just the change? Oh. | 00:45:08 | |
| So. | 00:45:13 | |
| Just to specify here. | 00:45:14 | |
| I don't know if you can see. | 00:45:16 | |
| But. | 00:45:18 | |
| Some of the lots were made narrower. | 00:45:21 | |
| So if you look here, most of the lots were about 50 feet. | 00:45:23 | |
| Wide. | 00:45:26 | |
| They readjusted some of the lots to make. | 00:45:28 | |
| To make room for much smaller units. | 00:45:31 | |
| Where you have 40. | 00:45:35 | |
| Feet, frontage or width of the lot. | 00:45:37 | |
| And that allowed room for. | 00:45:40 | |
| Some of them to go higher. | 00:45:43 | |
| Than the 40. | 00:45:45 | |
| But than the usual which would be. | 00:45:47 | |
| A mid sized one which is about 46. | 00:45:49 | |
| Feet wide, so they they played with the width of. | 00:45:54 | |
| Of the lots, that's like swapping. | 00:45:58 | |
| Forum. Sorry just to. | 00:46:00 | |
| That's more 61 on the corner lots. | 00:46:02 | |
| The 46 is only to the corner, just it's a lot wider than the. | 00:46:04 | |
| Done before. Yeah, Yeah. | 00:46:10 | |
| That's what I was trying to say. | 00:46:11 | |
| Thank you. | 00:46:12 | |
| Alright, that's fine. | 00:46:14 | |
| And then, but in terms of the number of lots, there is been no changes so. | 00:46:16 | |
| The number so there's no So the number of lots that they. | 00:46:22 | |
| That was approved, especially in this phase. | 00:46:25 | |
| Is the same number of lots as it currently shows right now. I just want to make sure that's on record. | 00:46:29 | |
| Yes, that is OK. Nothing has changed. OK. I just want to make sure that's that's out there. | 00:46:33 | |
| OK. And it's it's our it's our public record that. | 00:46:37 | |
| The applicant is not asking for a reduction. | 00:46:41 | |
| Of lots or increase of lots? Lot numbers suggest that was asking for a reconfiguration of the lots and. | 00:46:44 | |
| Again, Napkins is here on both I believe online and in person, but. | 00:46:52 | |
| Please correct me if I'm wrong, but that's just to allow for the flexibility of. | 00:46:57 | |
| There are car garages, 3 car garages or like bigger garages or. | 00:47:01 | |
| So I'll just say configuration of some of the. | 00:47:05 | |
| Some of the units to reflect the market. | 00:47:08 | |
| Need desires? | 00:47:12 | |
| But I won't. | 00:47:14 | |
| Speak for the applicant so. | 00:47:16 | |
| On that and they're here. Would you like to speak? | 00:47:18 | |
| On that. | 00:47:21 | |
| I just want to make sure that's my records. | 00:47:22 | |
| Eric Mcelwee of Goodborough. | 00:47:24 | |
| This is primarily an active adult community and we've had a lot of. | 00:47:28 | |
| Well, not. | 00:47:32 | |
| We have had some people. | 00:47:34 | |
| That are active adults that. | 00:47:36 | |
| Like to have an extra garage, you know, they have their little sports car or whatever and. | 00:47:38 | |
| And the currently the option we have right now is just two car garage and they have the ability to. | 00:47:43 | |
| To lice or get a permit for one parking on the street, so it doesn't really change any of the parking requirements for. | 00:47:49 | |
| Having more cars on the streets, but it just allows that and then we've also. | 00:47:57 | |
| Develop some new house plans that I wouldn't say they're that much smaller, but they just are on a narrower lot. | 00:48:03 | |
| And so that gives us the flexibility of kind of a. | 00:48:09 | |
| Just to meet the market. | 00:48:13 | |
| Some people don't want to. I mean, the prices are getting more and more expensive in this development, so we'd like to have the | 00:48:14 | |
| option of. | 00:48:17 | |
| Providing. | 00:48:20 | |
| Some options that are. | 00:48:21 | |
| I'm not quite as expensive. | 00:48:23 | |
| So that was the purpose of it. | 00:48:25 | |
| Try out a couple new. | 00:48:28 | |
| Things to see how the market kind of responds to it. | 00:48:29 | |
| All right. Well, thank you very much. | 00:48:34 | |
| So is there any other questions? | 00:48:36 | |
| Out there. Appreciate that. Anything from engineering, Patrick. | 00:48:38 | |
| No. | 00:48:43 | |
| Anthony previously stated that. | 00:48:46 | |
| We had requested an utility overlay because the utilities had already been built in this neighborhood and we requested an overlay | 00:48:48 | |
| just to see if that interferes with the the new lot. | 00:48:53 | |
| Dimensions. | 00:48:58 | |
| But it does, and they all fit within the the new. | 00:48:59 | |
| Lot dimension dimensions proposed so. | 00:49:02 | |
| We're good on that end. | 00:49:05 | |
| Yeah, the only other item I have. | 00:49:06 | |
| On the plot itself is there's and I believe it may be it may have been addressed but not reflective on what was submitted but. | 00:49:10 | |
| There's 2 notes on there for. | 00:49:17 | |
| Pacific horror rock mountain Power note as well as. | 00:49:21 | |
| In bridge gas is just is a standardized note down there that has to be on every single plot. | 00:49:25 | |
| So it's I'm sure, just make sure it's a that's administrative. | 00:49:30 | |
| That would be the speed administrative update and should be on the final one. | 00:49:34 | |
| Not a big deal. | 00:49:37 | |
| All right, so. | 00:49:38 | |
| Is there any comments from? | 00:49:41 | |
| Up here, so I'll start off with the building department. | 00:49:43 | |
| No comments from building. | 00:49:46 | |
| Fire Department. | 00:49:47 | |
| No comment. | 00:49:49 | |
| Our public works engineering you've already received our comments and then Brian for. | 00:49:50 | |
| No comments, Mr. David Cowell. | 00:49:54 | |
| Looks good. | 00:49:57 | |
| And then planning for cash. | 00:49:57 | |
| Great. That being said. | 00:50:01 | |
| As so anything else? | 00:50:04 | |
| Any other comments out there before? | 00:50:07 | |
| Before we move forward. | 00:50:09 | |
| Now everyone again again, we're excited to have on. | 00:50:13 | |
| To see. | 00:50:18 | |
| To see. | 00:50:20 | |
| Progress happen on things that have improved and obviously and then of course working with the developers. | 00:50:21 | |
| To ensure that. | 00:50:28 | |
| Not only is the developer successful, the cities are. The city is successful as well. So. | 00:50:30 | |
| On there. So that being said, is there a motion out there for this? | 00:50:36 | |
| So for the plat subdivision plots, final plat holdaway fields Phase 2B as in Bravo. | 00:50:40 | |
| I'll move. | 00:50:50 | |
| OK, as recorded with the conditions presented. | 00:50:51 | |
| Cool, so I have a first, is there a second? | 00:50:54 | |
| Second. All right. Yes, I got a second SO. | 00:50:59 | |
| Again, all in favor of approving the pot. | 00:51:02 | |
| Aye, aye. | 00:51:04 | |
| Any opposed? | 00:51:06 | |
| And hearing nothing opposed the plots. | 00:51:08 | |
| So plot 26-0015 Subdivision final plot totally fields. | 00:51:10 | |
| Phase 2B as in Bravo is approved with conditions. | 00:51:16 | |
| On that. So thank you very much. | 00:51:20 | |
| All right. So that being said, we are at the end of our. | 00:51:23 | |
| Session. | 00:51:29 | |
| Is there any staff or other reports that would like to be done? | 00:51:30 | |
| OK, here at none and then again I can. | 00:51:37 | |
| For those members of the public out there, I will welcome. | 00:51:40 | |
| Anyone who would like to make any kind of comments, if anything at all. | 00:51:44 | |
| Nope. Hearing none, I will. | 00:51:47 | |
| Adjourn this meeting. We don't need a motion. | 00:51:52 | |
| And I am not going to take one. | 00:51:55 | |
| So this means been adjourned and congratulations. | 00:51:56 | |
| Once again to Brian Baldry. | 00:51:59 | |
| And myself. | 00:52:02 | |
| For chair and vice chair. | 00:52:03 | |
| Thank you very much. | 00:52:04 |