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Event transcript
We ready to go, Tony? 00:04:23
OK, we ready. 00:04:25
All righty guys. 00:04:29
Welcome, welcome. It is 8. 00:04:32
30 umm. 00:04:34
Say 30 on the dot according my watch. 00:04:36
So I am Mayor Zach Stratton. We're going to go ahead and get started. 00:04:38
Usually I'm pretty good at getting someone to say the opening prayer and pledge, but you have a volunteer is anyone? 00:04:42
Please come. 00:04:48
All right, come on down. 00:04:52
Love it. 00:04:55
So prayer first. 00:04:56
And then we'll do Pledge of Allegiance and then. 00:04:58
Guess what? 00:05:00
You get a pen. 00:05:01
I don't need it. I have one. All right. You already got one. OK, Sounds good. 00:05:03
Just so everyone's aware, like. 00:05:08
I don't believe it, but like. 00:05:12
Nomination. So you're, you're good. 00:05:15
Father. 00:05:36
First and foremost. 00:05:42
I give you the glory. 00:05:46
Tonight. Tonight. 00:05:49
1st thank you for answering my prayers. 00:05:51
I've prayed for. 00:05:55
Fingers for somebody. 00:05:57
Years and I'm so grateful tonight. 00:06:00
For the Flyers that made it into the hearts of our neighbors. 00:06:03
Our friends and our community who truly want change. 00:06:08
Father. I asked. 00:06:15
Forgive this for not stepping up. 00:06:17
I pray that. 00:06:20
Those who speak tonight. 00:06:21
We'll speak from her heart. 00:06:28
And what April is true? 00:06:33
Father I'm grateful for. 00:06:38
My brothers and sisters in Christ. 00:06:42
Who truly want change for the better for our families. 00:06:44
So that we can remember the easy things that you've taught us to serve our neighbors. 00:06:48
To love her neighbors. 00:06:54
Do you even love our enemies? 00:06:55
And while we're not sure. 00:06:58
Pray. So I pray that tonight. 00:06:59
Even if it's just one person. 00:07:04
Brings you closer for guidance. 00:07:06
He can praise. 00:07:11
In the name of. 00:07:13
Joey. 00:07:16
My teacher. 00:07:20
Friend and neighbor and everything that I need, I pray in this mighty and sacred name. 00:07:25
Amen. Amen. Thank you. 00:07:30
OK, let's do the Pledge of Allegiance. 00:07:33
You actually I pledge allegiance to the flag. 00:07:39
And to the Republic for which it stands. 00:07:46
One nation under God. God. 00:07:49
Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 00:07:51
OK. 00:07:58
It is standing room only tonight. I love it. 00:08:01
OK. Couple of things is. 00:08:04
I wanted to. 00:08:08
Just kind of lay some. 00:08:11
First off. 00:08:12
Thank you so much for that prayer. 00:08:13
I think it really captured the spirit. 00:08:18
And I hope that. 00:08:21
As I speak for the next couple of minutes, you guys will understand my heart. 00:08:24
We're all dealing with the situation. 00:08:29
That by and large, we didn't inherit. 00:08:32
But we want to fix it. 00:08:38
And as we go throughout this meeting and we go throughout this work session and the Council deliberates. 00:08:41
I ask. 00:08:48
That we seek to understand and to be understood. 00:08:51
I think that's really, really important in this situation. 00:08:56
As the mayor, the good thing? 00:09:01
In this new form of government, one of the. 00:09:05
One of the best parts about it is I don't have a vote. 00:09:08
But I can put things on the agenda. 00:09:12
And so my commitment to the community. 00:09:16
Is as long as. 00:09:18
The community feels that we need to put this on the agenda, to keep discussing it and tweaking it and whatever the outcome is. 00:09:21
That's my commitment, that we will keep working at this. 00:09:28
I ran a campaign on two things. 00:09:31
Really two things. First was the lower property taxes and second really was to fix this parking issue. 00:09:34
And this issue didn't. 00:09:40
It didn't happen overnight. 00:09:43
But we are going to do everything we can, and we're going to. 00:09:46
What I'm trying to say is it's going to take a. 00:09:49
Probably gonna take a minute to fix it, but we are. 00:09:51
Gonna My commitment is we're gonna keep working at it. 00:09:53
So a couple things. 00:09:58
There will be time for public comment. 00:10:00
But I. 00:10:03
I've thought about this and we're gonna. 00:10:04
I want to. I think it'd be in. 00:10:06
Important in the spirit of seeking to understand and be understood. 00:10:07
To have some deliberation with counsel first. 00:10:11
And so people can kind of see the process that we're thinking. 00:10:14
And then? 00:10:18
Comment afterwards. We haven't had really a good opportunity I feel like. 00:10:19
Especially with this many people here to kind of talk. 00:10:24
As a council, the council to talk and. 00:10:26
The process through it. 00:10:29
I'm gonna be. I'm really gonna have to, probably. 00:10:32
I'm a my type of leadership and how I run meetings. I'm pretty free flowing, but I think tonight we might have to run it a little 00:10:37
tighter than I do in the past. 00:10:42
And so how it works is if there's a comment. 00:10:47
I ask you to direct it to the chair of the meeting, which is the mayor. 00:10:51
So directed towards me. 00:10:54
I'm gonna ask. They're gonna hold their comments till the end. 00:10:55
And we're going to kind of work through this, but I promise that. 00:10:58
This will not be the first time we discuss this problem. 00:11:02
I again. 00:11:05
I want to fix two things. 00:11:08
I want to fix the property taxes here. I am so mad about those OK personally. 00:11:10
I feel that a lot of. 00:11:16
I'm not going to get into it. 00:11:17
That's a whole and everyone. It's the. 00:11:19
We're all ticked off. 00:11:22
OK, I'll stop there. 00:11:23
The second thing is we've got to get this parking right we've. 00:11:24
Gotta get our city back. We've got to make this place livable. 00:11:27
So, and there's going to be a process and again this. 00:11:30
This didn't happen overnight. 00:11:33
And I. 00:11:35
Ask for your patience and work with us and. 00:11:36
As we go through this process. 00:11:39
Is working good faith. 00:11:41
So I have the sheriff's here. We got two of them. 00:11:42
Hold on. Thank you for coming back from Saint George last night to be here. 00:11:45
Holden is awesome. 00:11:49
Love them, they're awesome, they take great care of us. 00:11:51
I've seen you guys around a lot today. You've been dealing with a lot of stuff. 00:11:53
OK, it's been. 00:11:57
It's springtime. 00:11:59
Oh, there we go. 00:12:01
OK, there we go. So. 00:12:02
All right with that. 00:12:06
As we as we go with Council, a couple things I ask. Let's stick on the topic. 00:12:08
Let's keep our comments brief and to the point. 00:12:12
And it is 8:30. I'm sure a lot of us have babysitters and we got. 00:12:15
Work to get to in the morning. 00:12:20
So, uh. 00:12:21
But this is important to have this discussion, so I'm going to start with Councilman, Councilman Mccumber. 00:12:23
To my left. 00:12:28
Parker is going to chat about. 00:12:29
Some things that. 00:12:32
We need, we need to get going right away. So go ahead, Parker. 00:12:35
First and foremost, I'm. 00:12:40
I would like to express my gratitude that so many of you have shown up tonight. 00:12:42
One of the things that. 00:12:46
He told me I need to be louder. 00:12:47
I'm pretty loud, David. 00:12:50
OK. 00:12:52
One of the things that I've. 00:12:54
Habitually commented on. 00:12:56
Was that we need as much public participation as possible. 00:12:57
So that we can make the most informed decisions and capture the most perspectives that's necessary for informed decision making to 00:13:01
happen. 00:13:04
I am excited. 00:13:09
To let you guys know. 00:13:12
Well over the last 48 hours or so since our Tuesday evening meeting. 00:13:15
I want you guys to know. 00:13:21
I haven't slept. We have worked literally around the clock to build consensus as a council. 00:13:22
I want to give a special thank you to Ezra Nair for working with me over the course of the last couple days. 00:13:28
To get. 00:13:34
Immediate solution in place to help you right off the bat and I want to present that to you real quick. 00:13:35
We have. 00:13:42
A resolution that we. 00:13:45
I'm just going to let you guys know what it is now in the work session that can be discussed briefly. 00:13:46
But it will. 00:13:51
Pass on Tuesday. 00:13:52
And in short, the resolution is the Council directing the immediate towing. 00:13:54
Of vehicles that are parked illegally. 00:13:59
So if you're parked within 30 feet of a stop sign, if you're parked on a red curb or you're parked in front of a. 00:14:02
Fire hydrant. 00:14:07
You will get an immediate tow order. 00:14:08
The intent behind that is to create an immediate solution that bolsters the safety in your neighborhoods. 00:14:11
I hear your. 00:14:19
Concerns and complaints loud and clear when you come and you tell us about the low visibility and I drive those streets and I see 00:14:20
what you guys are experiencing and I'm. 00:14:23
I want that to be fixed because I want our kids to be safe. 00:14:27
So on Tuesday. 00:14:32
I expect that that will. 00:14:33
Passed as a consent item with flying colors and that will immediately go into effect and I think that that will solve. 00:14:35
A lot of the low hanging fruit when it comes to safety. 00:14:41
I know that this is really a root cause. 00:14:45
Stemming from. 00:14:48
Over occupancy. 00:14:51
We are still planning to move forward with Operation Neighborhood Shield and developing the city's code enforcement protocol to 00:14:53
actually help get that in check. 00:14:57
Long term, but this is something we can do immediately. 00:15:02
To make the streets safer. 00:15:04
I did also want to comment. 00:15:07
On some of the emotion in the conversations that I've observed and participated in in the last. 00:15:09
48 hours. 00:15:14
And I want to make sure that. 00:15:16
You guys understand? 00:15:18
That we're trying to. 00:15:20
Not make decisions in a vacuum. 00:15:22
And that no one on this Council. 00:15:24
Is here to be your enemy or prevent. 00:15:28
Representing you. 00:15:31
I recognize that there are some heated opinions when it comes to. 00:15:33
Those perceptions. 00:15:38
And there's a large group of people that support. 00:15:40
Increased parking. 00:15:43
I don't know what the. 00:15:46
Parking policy. 00:15:47
And those parking passes? 00:15:48
That actively campaigned against many of us up here now. 00:15:50
And are frustrated at our involvement and so I want to comment on this that I. 00:15:54
100% recognized. 00:15:59
You guys have been. 00:16:01
Working with Ezra not just over the last two months when it came to. 00:16:02
Parking policy. 00:16:07
But many of you were. 00:16:09
With him during the campaign. 00:16:11
And you support him, and you trust him, and you know him. 00:16:13
And I want you to know that this was not. 00:16:16
There was number intentional slight to him or to you. 00:16:17
When we appointed Jacob Wood to be over this. 00:16:21
The reason that we appointed that and I hope that you guys can. 00:16:25
Maybe look at this understand. 00:16:28
Was that Jacob was already very involved. 00:16:30
With trying to figure out parking and towing situations when it came to the lakefront neighborhood and those HOA's. 00:16:32
He was already very well versed with the contracts that were in place. 00:16:39
And so it seems. 00:16:42
To us as a natural extension. 00:16:44
To put him in charge of that process. 00:16:46
And at the time we were not aware, at least I wasn't, I don't think consciously aware that you guys had. 00:16:49
Your group that was already meeting with Ezra and that had a consensus there. 00:16:55
That wasn't information that I was. 00:16:59
Privy to I don't believe. 00:17:01
So. 00:17:02
I want to get to know we are not trying to work against you. 00:17:04
We genuinely want to make the streets safer. We want to help you out with this. 00:17:07
Some concerns that I want to bring up that I hope as you guys. 00:17:12
Share in your public comments and that as you break off into your. 00:17:17
Neighborhood sessions in a few minutes. 00:17:21
I would like you to consider these things. 00:17:25
I ran on. 00:17:29
Also tackling the taxes and balancing the city budget, making sure that we were operating from a fiscally responsible. 00:17:32
Position. 00:17:38
One of my concerns that we're really working through right now and. 00:17:41
I apologize, Evans, not here. 00:17:45
Maybe comments on this with me? 00:17:46
Is that over the course of the next three years we have an 8 figure deficit when it comes to our transportation budget? 00:17:49
To be very blunt, the city does not have a lot of excess funds to create programs. 00:17:55
I would like you to consider. 00:18:02
Your willingness to. 00:18:04
Adopt A fee that would support your parking passes if you choose to proceed with that. 00:18:07
2nd. 00:18:14
Representation and real consensus and. 00:18:16
My concern here. 00:18:19
Is that? 00:18:20
We as a Council. 00:18:22
While we want to help you and we want to make the streets safer. 00:18:24
We have an obligation to protect the rights of. 00:18:27
Even minority groups. 00:18:30
And people that you may not agree with. 00:18:32
That kind of. 00:18:35
Builds into my. 00:18:36
Next thought if I were to tell you that I think taxation is theft. 00:18:38
Most of you would say, but who would pay for the roads? 00:18:42
And the conversation that we're having. 00:18:45
Just to be very blunt. 00:18:48
Is we're talking about limiting access? 00:18:49
To something that these people's tax dollars are paying for. 00:18:52
And I think that that needs to be very heavily scrutinized. 00:18:56
So I would like to share this thought as I. 00:19:00
Spoke. 00:19:03
For many hours with our city's legal advisor over the course of the last two days. 00:19:05
Something that he shared with me is a best practice in all governance. Is that a? 00:19:11
Council does not. 00:19:16
Act unless it has sufficient reason to do so. 00:19:17
So I want to ask you all to please continue to engage your neighbors. 00:19:22
And build as much community involvement in consensus in this as you can. 00:19:26
Make it undeniable for us to help you. 00:19:30
I think it's all my good point about it. That's good. 00:19:36
Already we're going to jump now. We're just going to jump to the parking permit overview, if that's all right. Yep. 00:19:39
OK, let's jump jump to it and. 00:19:44
Yeah, so no. 00:19:48
Yeah, go ahead. 00:19:50
We need to go and educate you guys on what you're going to be experiencing tonight. 00:19:52
And understand the code that is currently written in our city code. 00:19:56
Currently when this was put in place. 00:20:00
2-3 years ago. 00:20:04
There was only one. 00:20:05
Way of telling. 00:20:07
The entities that put that in are the neighborhoods that put that in. 00:20:09
Went down that road. 00:20:13
And repealed it and didn't want it. 00:20:14
And so when that and you'll hear from them tonight about that and there are many different options. 00:20:17
In towing and you're going to be learning about those about and and all of your neighborhoods are very different. 00:20:24
But as as the code currently states, it states that there is. 00:20:31
By required by city code. 00:20:36
There needs to be a vote of the citizens of the neighborhood and it currently says it's 75% that a survey would go out. 00:20:38
So it's because that code is a little bit different and outdated. 00:20:46
We need to talk to the council as to what's going to happen so tonight. 00:20:50
After we're done educating you on. 00:20:54
A lot of various options. You guys are going to be broken up into four groups. 00:20:56
The code also states that a group of citizens. 00:21:00
Could put together that plan. Well, there isn't a plan yet in the four of your neighborhoods, so you guys need to put together a 00:21:03
plan. 00:21:06
In order to do that. 00:21:10
We need to have a leader of that. 00:21:12
Plan right And so. 00:21:13
So tonight you guys are going to be selecting a leader. 00:21:16
But also going through and we want you to know the different options so when you talk to that leader. 00:21:19
You're going through and saying. 00:21:23
Well, what, what options are you planning on if you're going to be my leader? 00:21:25
Even at the end of today, that leader isn't going to just be saying, hey, I'm the leader and we're doing this and we leave today 00:21:29
on the planet. 00:21:32
Because it has to come back to. 00:21:36
The code. 00:21:38
Between here. 00:21:39
And next Tuesday, because we have to follow sunshine laws and transparency laws. 00:21:41
We will be working with David Kyle. 00:21:46
And our legal counsel to make sure that we have a fair and equitable due process of how to vote. 00:21:48
Should we see? 00:21:55
Stay at the survey like we're handing out a QR code. 00:21:56
It says the residents. 00:21:59
What does that mean? Is that one per household? 00:22:01
Does that mean we're giving out QR codes? Does that mean they can come to the office and vote? 00:22:04
It's not a great code that's written through that. 00:22:08
So because this is spraying on us and we were challenged on a Tuesday to meet on a Thursday. 00:22:11
We will be going through and working through that vote and that. 00:22:16
Process. Umm. 00:22:19
So when you guys come back to that? 00:22:21
Now, having said that tonight. 00:22:23
Your leaders after learning everything. 00:22:25
Might need more than two or three days to put together your plan. 00:22:29
In fact, we stress that because there are so many moving parts, right? So that does not mean you have to. Now there are some 00:22:33
people in this group. 00:22:36
That might say, look, we're ready to go. 00:22:41
Where, you know, one neighborhood in particular says, hey. 00:22:42
We know what we want, we know all of the options, and we're ready to go. 00:22:45
But make sure you know as a group. 00:22:48
Does that mean that as you go and grow that consensus that you would be able to go and get that? 00:22:51
That percentage to vote to do. 00:22:56
To actually implement your plan. Does that make sense? 00:22:59
OK. And I also and so tonight, so that's the process a Tuesday we would vote on how we would collect that neighborhood vote. 00:23:02
So tonight. 00:23:09
Moving towards the agenda Jacob would is going to spend the time going through. 00:23:10
All the different things. 00:23:15
And auctions in towing. 00:23:16
Thank you. 00:23:18
All right, Jacob one. 00:23:18
Go through this. Yeah. Was everybody able to get a packet? There should be packets in the packet. We run out of packets. 00:23:20
One second, we have some more. OK. 00:23:26
So on the package, there's three options for the type of. 00:23:28
Parking permits you want you want digital? 00:23:31
Et cetera. So I'll go through that. 00:23:33
So first of all, this is not going to be a decision made by counsel. 00:23:37
This needs to be decided by you and your neighbors. This needs to get buy in from your neighbors as well. 00:23:42
Because this is going to be a significant change. 00:23:47
So I want you to take the time to really think through these. 00:23:50
Go through these permit plans in detail. 00:23:52
And I'm going to try to be as detailed as I can. 00:23:54
So I put all this in a packet. 00:23:58
I'll just wait hard, but I can. 00:24:00
Get access to a package. Did you get one man? 00:24:02
Some of the options. 00:24:05
And then you guys can select. 00:24:07
Which would be best for your neighborhood that you? 00:24:09
Want to go through this so at the end of this. 00:24:12
We're going to hear from a few people who have. 00:24:14
Have had experience of parking enforcement. 00:24:16
Including HOA experience. 00:24:18
And residents who currently live in neighborhoods with parking permits as well. 00:24:19
Share their experience with it SO. 00:24:23
The first slide, can you all hear me? 00:24:25
OK. Thank you. 00:24:28
So you're gonna have to decide the permit type. 00:24:30
So there's two different permit types. You have a digital. 00:24:33
Parking permit. 00:24:35
Usually that's linked to your license plate. 00:24:36
I mean it's managed online or by app. 00:24:38
Or you have a physical parking permit. 00:24:40
And that's physically displayed on your car. 00:24:42
And then usually they have a unique. 00:24:45
Barcode attached to that permit. 00:24:47
So you need to decide you want a physical parking permit or do you want a digital? 00:24:49
Parking permit. 00:24:52
When it comes to enforcement options, there's many options. So this company does ticketing. 00:24:56
Basically, uh. 00:25:01
Instead of towing or booting, just taking your car, you have to pay between 75 to $100. 00:25:03
And we have booting. 00:25:07
I'm Utah State, Max rebooting is $75. 00:25:09
The oranges have towing. 00:25:11
And use that ranges between 300 to $400. 00:25:13
So you can choose ticketing, you can choose booting, you can choose towing, or you can choose a combination of both. 00:25:16
Booting and towing. 00:25:21
Or you can choose a progressive style of enforcement. 00:25:22
First offensive ticketing, second offense is booting, and the third offensive towing. 00:25:25
So there's a company that offers that. 00:25:29
Version of enforcement as well. 00:25:32
So other things you guys need to decide is the enforcement style. 00:25:40
So there's two different types of enforcement. There's on call. Basically a person would call to a. 00:25:43
The toe on a car that's violating the parking permit rules. 00:25:48
Or there's patrol enforcement. You need a tow truck with patrol. 00:25:52
The road. And they would. 00:25:55
Total card. 00:25:56
On their own. 00:25:58
So you need to decide anymore on card you want patrol. 00:26:00
So. 00:26:07
Let's let's. 00:26:08
When we get through this, I was gonna ask the same thing. What's the cost is the cost is the. 00:26:10
So that can be decided via contract. I don't have a specific cost, I know that. 00:26:14
Couple neighborhoods that have a parking permit. 00:26:19
And might cause to speak to this letter. 00:26:21
Usually the annual fee for that parking permit is above 60 to $60.00 plus. 00:26:23
OK, thanks. Keep on. 00:26:28
So when it comes to booting, there's two different types of booting. 00:26:31
So you have smarter company offers smart booting basically. 00:26:34
It's self release, you pay for it and then you can. 00:26:37
Detach it and then you have to go and drop it off. 00:26:40
Yourself. 00:26:43
And then you have standard building basically towing company would come. 00:26:44
The Buddha, and then you have to call them to come. 00:26:47
Take it off if that makes sense. 00:26:50
And then you have visitor parking as well. 00:26:53
Would you want to allow overnight visitor parking passes for a neighborhood? 00:26:55
Or not. 00:26:58
And then household permits so. 00:27:01
Would you guys want? 00:27:04
How many permits do you want per? 00:27:06
House you want one on street parking spot 2? Or do you want it to be tied to the number of drivers in that house? 00:27:08
What are the costs, Jacob, for the permits? Are they? 00:27:14
$20 a permit or what do they cost? That's the thing. So the president vary based off of what what you get so. 00:27:18
Depending on some of the options and. 00:27:25
We would strongly recommend that the neighborhood captains. 00:27:28
Do their research of which style. 00:27:31
And then research the price. 00:27:34
And as a council, this is one thing that we said was. 00:27:36
Should we demand that they know the price during the vote? 00:27:39
Or like on Tuesday when they put forth the plan that they. 00:27:43
That it sets the citizens know the price in the vote or is that these are the options we're doing? 00:27:48
And then after they vote, they find out what the permit fee is. 00:27:53
And I felt that as a transparency policy that. 00:27:56
Whatever option they choose. 00:28:00
And the leaders go through, they investigate that between here and Tuesday. 00:28:02
And we can help them do the best research they can so citizens know when they're voting. 00:28:06
The annual cost is $75 annually or. 00:28:11
We can you guys can talk about. 00:28:14
Something. 00:28:16
Phone calls. 00:28:19
Hold on one second. Let's let's umm. 00:28:21
Yeah, let's not do pressure. 00:28:23
Yeah, we're gonna. 00:28:24
Oh, yeah, please. What was the price? You made some phone calls on it. Yeah, so I made some phone calls. Just real quick. You can 00:28:26
talk to theirs. 00:28:29
But it's very similar. It's about $10. 00:28:32
But then they make their money up by telling and. 00:28:34
Thank you. As far as Lone Star goes. 00:28:37
They are also. 00:28:41
$10 or they are no price at all. They make up their fee by telling and ticketing. 00:28:42
And then with easy part it is $5. 00:28:47
Permit per month. 00:28:50
But can be negotiated into the contract if you find other ways that they can. 00:28:51
David, when you, David, when you said $10, are you saying monthly or annually? 00:28:56
It's $10 a ticket for annual. 00:29:01
That's what that's with UPA. 00:29:04
So he can talk. 00:29:06
If if they want to, they can talk further on that question. 00:29:07
Thank you. 00:29:09
Yeah. So yeah, like **** **** said, when you guys select. 00:29:12
What options do you want? You have to. 00:29:15
Find a vendor, calculate the price, and I'll tell you the price. 00:29:17
You guys have to. 00:29:20
There's also two distinctions in towing that is very important to understand. 00:29:22
There are, there is. 00:29:27
HOA we're giving sovereignty over to the towing company to patrol. 00:29:29
Where they're going to be the judge, jury and executioner of like that decision? 00:29:35
And then there's like. 00:29:40
On call that we would run through the city. 00:29:41
Where it would be reported. 00:29:44
And it would go to a. 00:29:46
Code Enforcement officer. 00:29:48
Meaning somebody from the city. 00:29:50
And they would look at it and say does this. 00:29:52
Reach the level of. 00:29:55
Of code. 00:29:58
And at which when that decision is made. 00:29:59
Then it would dispatch a. 00:30:02
A tow truck company. So it's really important you understand that because if your neighborhood chooses and this happened in two 00:30:04
instances. 00:30:08
Where they chose the just drive by. 00:30:12
And we are going to be removing the city on when they do the patrolling. 00:30:15
They remove us from. 00:30:19
The process, the code enforcement. Now there is an appeal thing. 00:30:21
After the fact. 00:30:25
But we are not the first adjudicating person that goes through that process. And so it's really important that you understand that 00:30:26
because people will call in and they're like, I don't, I didn't agree with the toe. I was only a couple feet off. 00:30:32
And we are giving that. 00:30:38
Sovereignty to that private company to do that in those two separate scenarios, OK, basically if you choose that, people need to 00:30:39
understand that option. 00:30:43
OK. The next one is duration. How long do you want this parking from in your neighborhood? Do you want it to be? 00:30:48
A temporary six months. 00:30:53
One year or do you want it to be until? 00:30:55
Basically. 00:30:57
We've got it. 00:30:58
OK, awesome. Then I have one last slide. So I invited a couple members of the community here. 00:31:01
On a couple enjoy representatives and. 00:31:07
An individual who lives in a area of parking permit. 00:31:09
To better explain. 00:31:12
What it's like doing parking enforcement. 00:31:13
What worked? What didn't work? 00:31:15
If I can invite them to the MM Hox and then. 00:31:17
Mike, you want to come up first? 00:31:20
OK, awesome. 00:31:26
So I'm Julie Cox. 00:31:28
We moved to Vineyard in June of 2019, so we've been here almost seven years. 00:31:29
We the majority of the time we've been here, we've had a multi generational household. My mom had lived with us. 00:31:34
For nine years before she passed away. 00:31:41
My son, daughter-in-law and their. 00:31:44
Almost 2 year old child lives with us as well we have. 00:31:46
Five vehicles. 00:31:49
Because we've had five drivers. 00:31:50
When Providence, I live in the Providence neighborhood. 00:31:53
When Providence instituted parking permits. 00:31:57
We were not given these choices. 00:32:00
So this is amazing and. 00:32:02
You should be grateful they're asking for your. 00:32:04
Opinion. 00:32:07
We were given one choice and that was to have one parking permit for the street. 00:32:10
Per households. 00:32:15
At a fee. I think at the time it was $30. 00:32:17
A year. 00:32:20
And it was a physical permit. 00:32:21
And like I say, we had five cars. 00:32:25
And five drivers. 00:32:27
And so that was not a good solution for us at all. 00:32:29
I felt like we were disproportionately impacted by the parking issues. The parking issues in my neighborhood are caused by a lack 00:32:34
of parking in the locks. 00:32:38
Probably due to over occupancy. 00:32:43
So when we were given these choices, I felt like we were disproportionately impacted due to the location of our home, because we 00:32:48
are. 00:32:52
Right inside our neighborhood, directly across the street from the locks. 00:32:56
However, because we are only given one choice. 00:33:00
And I felt like it was not the right choice. 00:33:04
I did not vote for it. I refused to vote. 00:33:06
To take away the right to park in front of my own home. 00:33:10
Directly in front of my own home. 00:33:15
And because of that. 00:33:17
I have been towed once. 00:33:19
And booted twice. 00:33:20
I've paid $450. 00:33:22
In extra fees. 00:33:25
To park in front of my own home. 00:33:27
So like I say, I. 00:33:31
I hope that. 00:33:33
You know you guys find the right solution for your neighborhood. What I can tell you is. 00:33:35
I feel like this is still not the right solution for my neighborhood even though. 00:33:40
It has loosened a little bit and now we have. 00:33:45
3 parking permits available to each home, so I do want to give credit where credit is due. They've solved. 00:33:47
My problem. 00:33:54
Because now I can park. 00:33:55
Two cars in my garage or driveway and three on the street. 00:33:56
So my issue has been solved. 00:34:00
But I still get booted. 00:34:03
If I don't have the right car. 00:34:04
Permit in the window or digital permit? 00:34:06
All right. Thanks. 00:34:10
So I'm Mike Cox. 00:34:15
And I just want to say a couple things that haven't mentioned yet. 00:34:17
On if there's someone in your. 00:34:20
In your household that has a handicap permit. 00:34:22
That is gold. 00:34:25
That is the as good as any parking permit because no towing company can touch you. 00:34:28
OK, you park on the street. 00:34:33
Anytime you want. 00:34:35
They have to leave you alone by law. 00:34:36
It was our saving grace when we had five cars because my mother had grandma, so that was that. 00:34:38
That's a good thing. 00:34:46
And then I just really feel strongly that. 00:34:48
The problems that we have in Vineyard. 00:34:51
Are because of. 00:34:55
High density. 00:34:56
Developments. 00:34:58
Where the developers went into the city. 00:35:00
And begged them to lower the parking requirements. And the city did. 00:35:03
So the problems. 00:35:08
Were caused by the city. 00:35:11
So. 00:35:13
We are the city. 00:35:14
And now we're trying to fix the problems. 00:35:17
I have a really hard time. 00:35:19
When the city. 00:35:22
They started out being $30 in our. 00:35:24
In our neighborhood and their next year they went to 60. 00:35:26
So I don't think the city of Vineyard should be in. 00:35:29
The parking business, I don't think it is a neat idea. 00:35:33
To sell. 00:35:37
Parking passes. 00:35:39
The city gets enough money. 00:35:40
Yeah, yeah, the city doesn't need to be looking for more ways. 00:35:43
To get more money. 00:35:46
OK, so. 00:35:48
Thank you SO. 00:35:50
You need to. You need to make it to. The passes are free. 00:35:53
That's that's that would be the. 00:35:56
Best solution? 00:35:58
Thank you. Who else we got here if you have Chris Fox. So Chris, come on up, Chris. 00:35:59
Is in Edgewater. 00:36:03
I wanted to basically explain what's like. 00:36:05
Parking enforcement if you guys have any questions for him. 00:36:08
Yeah, great. I've got. 00:36:12
Cash modesty with me as well. He's on our Edgeway board as well. Umm. 00:36:13
So I've been on the board in Edgewater Townhomes. 00:36:16
About four years now. 00:36:20
And when I moved in, we were using EPA. We had a separate kind of system for getting visitor passes overnight. 00:36:22
And eventually we kind of switched to UPA. 00:36:29
For those visitor passes as well. 00:36:32
The the towing. 00:36:36
The communication wasn't very well. It didn't go very well with UPA, so a lot of things we didn't want them to do or did want them 00:36:38
to do. 00:36:41
They just weren't, we weren't on the same page and so we decided to switch two different company, but. 00:36:44
What has helped us is switching to Lone Star. 00:36:50
They've been very communicative with us. 00:36:54
We have some very specific situations where we're like, hey, please don't tell me these situations. 00:36:57
With UPA we had. 00:37:02
Probably. 00:37:04
Two or three times a month. 00:37:04
Where someone was complaining to us they got towed when they left their car somewhere for like 1 minute. 00:37:06
Right, they were just constantly patrolling. 00:37:11
It's yeah, it's been like 8 months now and we've we've had one complaint. So it's been a significant difference. 00:37:14
The other thing with EPA was that, you know, we would ask them not to do something and then. 00:37:22
It was like 2 weeks later. 00:37:27
That after we had sent the e-mail. 00:37:28
I see a guy like patrolling, we'd ask them specifically not to patrol during that time, so. 00:37:30
I think that there's definitely some difference in. 00:37:34
Communication ability and quality control of that and. 00:37:37
And and. 00:37:41
The other thing is Edgewater's. 00:37:43
I think we also deal a lot with this over occupancy problem. 00:37:44
And and I hope that the solution that people are thinking of isn't. 00:37:48
Oh, if we like start towing all these people with these extra cars. 00:37:52
That will fix the overpopulation right? Or the over occupancy? 00:37:56
That's not a good way to do it. Most of these people getting towed are college students, right? Like they don't have. 00:38:00
So we just barely saw a receipt, $438. 00:38:05
To get there for a 20 minute, that right, it went to the tow yard, it was in there for 20 minutes and then they took it out. 00:38:09
$438. 00:38:15
That's that's pretty crazy for a college student, so. 00:38:16
I hope that that's. 00:38:20
You know not. 00:38:21
The strategy. 00:38:22
For some of these places, but. 00:38:24
Yeah, for us, towing has been really, really good with Lone Star, but I'm sure there's other options. 00:38:26
Awesome, yeah. 00:38:31
Can you talk more about the physical? Explain to the audience the physical parking pass how that would work? 00:38:33
You some have an app, some are web-based. 00:38:40
If they were to select a digital parking pass for the neighborhood, can you explain? 00:38:42
What that would probably look like. 00:38:46
So at Edgewater, the way we've done it is we have. 00:38:49
These I guess. 00:38:52
Signs around the community where it's a visitor spot or maybe event parking. 00:38:54
And there's a barcode on there and you can just scan the barcode allows you. 00:38:58
To go to a portal and then there you can actually get a. 00:39:01
Digital parking pass where you can put the make and model of your car. How long you need to pass for. 00:39:04
And then lastly the actual. 00:39:08
License plate. 00:39:10
And we've seen that it's. 00:39:11
That with UPA is pretty difficult. 00:39:13
With loan, so it's been pretty easy to set up and do it. 00:39:15
The one thing we've seen on the Lone Star side though is it can get abused and so they do have parameters in place to where you 00:39:18
can. 00:39:21
Lock it up so it can be a certain amount. 00:39:25
But it from what we've seen, our experience with Lone Star has been. 00:39:27
A lot more like. 00:39:31
Chris has said communicative, for instance. I mean, I'm here to state facts, not feelings or anything like that, so. 00:39:31
Initially when I. 00:39:37
Became a part of the board. 00:39:38
My first thought was how do we help the members of the community? 00:39:40
Understand where to go, where to park without having to spend 3, four, $500. 00:39:44
We brought this up with UPA. 00:39:49
And what they said to what we asked, hey, do you guys boot? And they said no, they clearly said no. 00:39:52
And so we look for different solutions. We found a company that was willing to boot while UPA towed. And then they said, oh, 00:39:57
actually we do boot. 00:40:00
And then from there. 00:40:04
They tried to. We asked them for some kind of a deal for our community. 00:40:05
And they said, OK, well. 00:40:09
Pitch something out. They told us the original pricing was. They came back and still gave us the original pricing. 00:40:10
And so after a few things that just. 00:40:15
Seen inherently dishonest, we decided to move to a different. 00:40:18
Partner and Lone Star has been phenomenal. They do exactly what we need. They partner with us. 00:40:21
And for them, it's more about the relationship than it is about. 00:40:25
Earning a buck. 00:40:30
I mean, obviously revenue matters. 00:40:30
But they care about the relationship with our community. 00:40:32
And it's made it so that. 00:40:35
I mean I. 00:40:36
There are people that complain about parking enforcement. That's always going to be the case, but at the end of the day, they care 00:40:37
about making sure that we have what we need. 00:40:40
Awesome. Thank you. 00:40:43
What's real? Quick question, how important is it that everyone understands the differences between app and evaluate the app before 00:40:45
making your decisions? Would you? 00:40:49
Wish you would have taken more time though. 00:40:53
Know the differences and stuff. 00:40:55
Yeah. So I from what I remember, I think UPS was like Reliance or something that was built in house is very. 00:40:57
Cumbersome and hard to use and so I think it's whatever you guys decide. If you decide to go UPA, that's fine. 00:41:02
Make sure you do some kind of pilot. 00:41:07
Take your time, understand it, just set up awesome. 00:41:09
Yeah. 00:41:13
When we switched so when we switched to the app. 00:41:16
Constant, like people were enraged signing up for UPA. I don't know why they had such a hard time. We kind of had them walk the 00:41:19
board through it and maybe that's why it felt so easy. 00:41:25
But. 00:41:30
I kid you not. 00:41:31
Multiple times a week, my neighbor who's always been very. 00:41:32
A very chill guy. 00:41:35
Was uh. 00:41:37
Just rage texting me when I he's like I've it's taken me two hours and why is this not working? 00:41:37
I said, why don't you just call him? 00:41:43
Whatever anyone called it seemed to be fine, but when people were trying to do it on their own? 00:41:44
They were getting so upset and so. 00:41:48
There's obviously some benefits, pros and cons to doing physical versus digital permits. 00:41:50
But. 00:41:55
You know, the physical ones can be abused. People can start, you know, trying to create copies and whatever, but the digital ones 00:41:56
also. 00:42:00
It's important to remember every time a towing company is asking you for. 00:42:03
Any information beyond your license plate? 00:42:06
It's just so that they can have a reason to tell you if you did it wrong. 00:42:08
If you type the wrongs, whatever right so. 00:42:11
Anyways, yeah, thank you. 00:42:13
The one thing that I want to make sure. 00:42:15
So if you guys decide to do this and you vote. 00:42:17
And it's not a good experience. It's the leader and the group that made the decision. 00:42:19
To do that, and that's why I'm speaking this to the leader. 00:42:25
Please make sure you educate. You learn the app, you say and you back it. And then when you're all educated. 00:42:28
Then deploy right like. 00:42:34
Like yeah. So anyway. 00:42:36
We got Fred. Fred here, right? Yeah. Come on up. 00:42:38
So Fred isn't like front. I wanted to speak more about physical. 00:42:41
Parking passes how that works some of the. 00:42:44
Cons there as well. 00:42:46
With. 00:42:48
Hi. Thanks Sir. 00:42:51
Appreciate the opportunity to talk. 00:42:52
I've been on the board of the lakefront community. 00:42:56
Since 2022. 00:43:01
And we've been dealing with parking ever since. 00:43:03
We implemented a physical parking permit. It's just a. 00:43:07
Plastic placard. 00:43:12
We provided all of the residents of the lakefront community. 00:43:14
With one parking permit per household. 00:43:19
And the ability to buy an additional permit if they needed more than one. 00:43:22
The placards are very affordable. 00:43:28
And so, speaking for my HOA, we were able to absorb the cost. 00:43:32
Of producing the placard and distributing them to the. 00:43:36
To the community without any additional cost to them. 00:43:39
The downside that we have come to realize? 00:43:43
Over the last. 00:43:47
Over the course of the last four years. 00:43:49
Is the reality of. 00:43:51
Forged permits. 00:43:53
You can go on any website and order. 00:43:56
A dozen or more. 00:44:00
Of these placards for about $1.50 per. 00:44:01
Per cart in in essence. 00:44:06
And so. 00:44:08
We know for a fact not only that they're easy to reproduce and duplicate. 00:44:09
But we have had landlords. 00:44:14
In our community who have contacted. 00:44:17
Our management company and turned in. 00:44:20
Dozens. 00:44:23
Of duplicated permits. 00:44:24
From. 00:44:26
That were given to them by by previous renters, so the duplication is a concern. 00:44:28
And and it has created some headaches in our community. 00:44:35
We. 00:44:38
At the beginning of the year, just. 00:44:39
One final note. 00:44:40
We decided to move to a digital permit. 00:44:42
It was administered by UPA. 00:44:45
That permit was. 00:44:48
Very different from our from our. 00:44:51
Our physical parking permit where we. 00:44:53
We mandated a boot. 00:44:56
A warning? A boot. 00:44:59
And then a toe. So it was a progressive. 00:45:01
Sister Michael Jacob was talking about earlier. 00:45:04
The digital permit is a straight. 00:45:09
When we asked. 00:45:13
And I think that the members of the of the other communities here. 00:45:16
Keep this in mind if you if you talk to UPA about this, you will. 00:45:19
Likely find the same thing that we did. 00:45:23
They did not charge us. 00:45:27
For the digital permit. 00:45:29
But when we asked for more flexibility, a. 00:45:31
A progressive system. 00:45:34
They wanted to charge the HOA. 00:45:36
A prohibitive fee. 00:45:39
In order to enable. 00:45:41
Other options? 00:45:43
We've turned that down flat. We're considering other. 00:45:46
Other companies like Easy Park and. 00:45:49
Lone Star because I refuse to. 00:45:52
Tax the members of our community for the privilege. 00:45:54
Of. 00:45:58
OK. Thank you, Fred. Appreciate that. 00:45:59
Jacob, anything else you want to go over this presentation, jump into the basically what threats in terms of physical parking 00:46:02
passes you may run into a? 00:46:05
People forging those passes and. 00:46:09
Stuff like that. So just nothing to keep in mind if you choose. 00:46:12
Difference between physical and digital? There might be downsides to both. So it's just a. 00:46:15
Keep in mind, but. 00:46:19
That is all I have. Thank you. Awesome. Thank you so much. 00:46:20
OK, we're going to jump now to we're going to do. 00:46:23
A quick so so this was this was a conversation about the the pros and cons and. 00:46:26
There's the different types of passes and so forth, so. 00:46:32
I'm going to jump now to David Kyle. Ask him to do a quick overview of. 00:46:37
This operation Neighborhood Shield. 00:46:41
As spoken before. 00:46:43
We feel that. 00:46:46
The root cause of this is. 00:46:48
Is over occupancy. 00:46:51
So this is. 00:46:53
We're looking to launch this to address that, so DK if you could. 00:46:54
Just kind of go over this real quick. 00:46:59
Tony. 00:47:02
No. Can you put it on? 00:47:06
I can work on it, sure. 00:47:11
OK, while he works on it. 00:47:12
While he's doing that, we can break up, we can kind of start to plan. 00:47:16
After he well. 00:47:19
Let's just have him go and then we'll. 00:47:21
You know, go ahead, David. 00:47:23
OK, so the. 00:47:25
With the reverse. 00:47:27
Over the last. 00:47:29
Three months since the mayor and and council members have taken office. 00:47:31
We've had a number of complaints regarding overall occupied rental homes, particularly in. 00:47:35
The neighborhood's mostly. 00:47:41
Your neighborhoods, those that you've shown up. 00:47:43
Lemon, Bridgeport. The Garden of Maples. 00:47:45
And just excessive reports of vehicles, illegal street parking. 00:47:48
Of course, blocked emergency vehicles strain on neighborhood structure and. 00:47:55
Reduced quality of life. 00:47:59
Especially safety for kids. 00:48:00
And so the mayor and staff have been working on a. 00:48:03
Program called Operation Neighborhood Shield. 00:48:07
What it starts? 00:48:11
What what we're doing is we're reviewing. 00:48:13
All of. 00:48:15
Vineyard City Code with our city Attorney and with Deputy Holden. 00:48:16
To determine updates and clarifications. 00:48:21
Regarding maximum residential occupancy limits. 00:48:24
Illegal rental. 00:48:28
Definitions. Uh. 00:48:29
Parking enforcement authority and evidence. 00:48:31
Requirements for code enforcement One of the. 00:48:34
Issues that we have with enforcement is we don't have evidence we need to have. 00:48:38
2 forms of evidence to do any kind of action in regards to over occupancy. 00:48:42
OK, we're almost there. 00:48:50
OK. 00:48:52
We have it on half the screens. 00:48:56
Just not on the main screen. So I think we're good to move forward. 00:48:58
OK, so. 00:49:01
We are currently in the process of making recommendations to city code. 00:49:04
That is we actually that's what phase one is our ordinance review which started March 16th and we'll end it. 00:49:11
On March 31st we're. 00:49:18
Trying to fast track this program. 00:49:21
Because of the. 00:49:23
Seriousness of the safety issues and neighborhoods, I'm just looking to jump to those. 00:49:25
Yeah, go ahead. 00:49:30
OK. All right. 00:49:34
OK, so we are. 00:49:35
We're looking at an awareness campaign with Phase 2. 00:49:38
Starting in late March, so. 00:49:44
Pretty much next week going into April. 00:49:46
We are going to be distributing door hangers and information Flyers. 00:49:49
We're going to be increasing patrols. 00:49:53
An increasing visibility and citations for illegal parking. 00:49:58
Public messaging will. 00:50:02
Be placed on all the door hangers and the informational Flyers and on Facebook and through e-mail informing residents that 00:50:05
enforcement will. 00:50:09
Will escalate beginning on May 1st. 00:50:14
Residents will also be encouraged to to report concerns through the city's See Something, Say Something reporting initiative that 00:50:19
will be part of that. 00:50:23
In the past, we have not been. The city has not been very direct. We are. 00:50:29
Going to be encouraging residents to be very direct. 00:50:33
If we're going to be asking, being very direct in our ask, you see something, you see over occupancy, you see illegal parking, 00:50:37
take a picture, report it to staff and we are going to be following up. 00:50:42
And we're actually. 00:50:48
Employing new. 00:50:49
Employees to make this happen. 00:50:51
So, and that's where. 00:50:54
Phase 3 is investigation and evidence collection will happen all throughout the month of April. 00:50:57
That's during the notice period. 00:51:03
The city will aggressively pursue documenting potential violations and will continue to. 00:51:05
Pursue enforcement action. 00:51:11
And staff. 00:51:13
Will be gathering evidence such as public rental listings, online rental advertisements, listing. 00:51:15
Offering rooms for rent. Neighbor complaints. Verified complaints submits to the city. 00:51:22
Property visits by officers and recorded statements. 00:51:27
Additional supporting evidence may include parking violations, code enforcement observations. 00:51:32
This phase will allow property owners an opportunity to help, correct. 00:51:38
Violations voluntarily and for students to find other housing options prior to enforcement. One of the reasons why we're moving so 00:51:42
quickly is because we know that graduation is going to be occurring. 00:51:48
At the end of this month. 00:51:55
We want to make sure that. 00:51:57
Students don't sign their contracts for the summer or for another year. 00:51:58
So we're giving kind of a heads up. We're going to be enforcing parking. 00:52:03
We're going to be enforcing over occupancy. 00:52:07
You know, and we're also working with Utah City. 00:52:11
To find them other places within Vineyard to live. 00:52:15
So thank you. With that, we've got phase four and that's when enforcement will begin on May 1st. 00:52:18
And of course, enforcement, administrative citations, parking citations, code enforcement actions. 00:52:25
And as mentioned before. 00:52:31
We are going to be increasing our enforcement staffing here at the city. If you go to the cities website, you'll see that we have 00:52:33
listings for a full time and two-part time. 00:52:38
Enforcement officers, if you know anybody that would like to submit their resume, we would be happy to consider them for 00:52:44
employment. 00:52:48
And the mayor's looking for Dog the Bounty Hunter to come and help. 00:52:52
Yeah, that's what we're looking for. 00:52:55
OK. Thank you, David, Kyle, I. 00:52:58
I want to talk to the. 00:52:59
This community is a group because I have. 00:53:01
How should I say this? 00:53:08
I know there's fatigue. 00:53:11
And reporting over occupancy. I live next door to a situation. 00:53:13
Similar and I personally have reported to the city for years on it. 00:53:18
If you haven't. 00:53:24
Heard the last 90 days we've had a lot of tone over and staff. 00:53:25
And a lot of it. 00:53:30
What I have discovered is that. 00:53:32
How can I say this? 00:53:37
It has been really we have some amazing people that work here. 00:53:39
But there there was a need. 00:53:43
For course correction. 00:53:45
And the staff that we have now and coming into the city. 00:53:47
Are amazing people. 00:53:51
That want to serve. 00:53:53
The taxpayer. 00:53:55
And. 00:53:56
Want to do good? 00:53:57
We have. 00:53:59
We got. 00:54:00
We have 10 new spots open. We're looking for 10 new code enforcers. 00:54:01
3. 00:54:04
This is this is we. We're really getting. 00:54:08
I keep asking myself. 00:54:12
If we don't. 00:54:14
If we have laws and codes and don't enforce and, why didn't have them? 00:54:15
But the key in order to do that is having a. 00:54:19
Team of staff members that are willing to do the hard thing. 00:54:22
And and get after it. 00:54:26
And I really feel. 00:54:28
I again, I understand there's fatigue. I've talked to so many of you that you. 00:54:30
I we finally found the report like. 00:54:35
10 days ago of. 00:54:39
All the complaints. 00:54:41
Over occupancy for the last three years and I was blown away. 00:54:42
I saw my name on there. 00:54:46
But we're. 00:54:48
I was like, geez. 00:54:49
I'm right there, right? 00:54:50
And So what I'm saying is there is a. 00:54:52
Complete culture shift that's happening with our staff. 00:54:55
And our desire. 00:54:59
Is the the mayor and the administrative officers of the city is to serve? 00:55:01
The residents, the people that pay. 00:55:06
Our salaries there, so I should say ours. 00:55:09
Their salaries, so that is. 00:55:11
It's really super positive so. 00:55:13
Again. 00:55:15
There's been some mishaps in the past. 00:55:16
Will have mishaps in the future but but. 00:55:19
Arc, my commitment is to just run a much. 00:55:21
Cleaner, tighter ship. 00:55:24
That listens and. 00:55:27
And it's nimble and can activities. 00:55:29
So we're going to get ready to to do the breakout. 00:55:31
So let me just let me just go through a couple of things so. 00:55:34
Park Mcbert. 00:55:38
Talked about in the very first thing. 00:55:39
We are there is going to. 00:55:41
We're going to pass the resolution I'm going to on the on the agenda is going to be a resolution. 00:55:43
The state of Utah has laws. 00:55:49
Right now. 00:55:51
That you can't park in front of a. 00:55:51
Fire hydrant against law. 00:55:53
There's laws right now. 00:55:55
You can't park in front of a stop sign. 00:55:56
Right now, so we don't need to do that. 00:55:58
But the resolution is going to be to act to to instruct. 00:56:00
The sheriff's to start towing. 00:56:04
And to me. 00:56:07
Where I sit. 00:56:08
That is a direct safety issue. 00:56:09
We've got to be able to get. 00:56:11
Ambulances. 00:56:14
Fire trucks. Indoor neighborhoods. 00:56:15
Get that taken care of so. 00:56:18
That is going to be happening on Tuesday. The reason why you can't vote on it tonight again is because of the sunshine. 00:56:19
We have to notice it with our attorney. 00:56:24
That's that's we're gonna do. 00:56:26
The next thing is we're going to start this Operation Shield. 00:56:28
OK, this neighborhood shield. 00:56:31
Because again, I truly feel the root cause of this. 00:56:33
Has something to do with over occupancy, so we're going to be working on that. 00:56:37
And in these breakout sessions. 00:56:41
As you discuss as a neighborhood. 00:56:42
Take it with that. 00:56:46
Understanding, and that's the commitment. 00:56:48
Are we going to be perfect? Are the staff be heard? 00:56:50
But we are working. 00:56:53
To say that we're doing nothing, that's just this is like. 00:56:55
We are moving. 00:56:58
Fast as I legally can. 00:56:59
To enforce. 00:57:02
And hold the codes that already exist. 00:57:04
And uphold it so. 00:57:07
All right, so with that. 00:57:08
We are going to do breakouts. So you want my Thunderman? 00:57:10
You want? Let's do this. Can I write? 00:57:13
I we have a lot more people here. 00:57:16
Then then we then I thought, can I get a raise Van who here is from? 00:57:19
Bridgeport, can you raise your hand? 00:57:24
OK, so let me do this. 00:57:26
Can I get a hand raising hands here? Who's here from the gardens? 00:57:27
OK, so there's a bunch of gardens. Bridgeport, the gardens, who's here from the Maples? 00:57:31
Maples is kind of small. 00:57:36
OK. 00:57:38
Come to the hall and then we'll. 00:57:39
Is a small group. OK, let's do this. 00:57:43
OK, alright. 00:57:46
So this is what we're going to do. 00:57:48
OK, please be quiet. Listen up. 00:57:51
Jake, walk us through what these breakout sessions are going to be doing. 00:57:54
OK, let's make sure you get and we gotta have a time limit because again, it's 9:30. 00:57:57
So each a council member will follow each group to their location to help guide through the meeting. 00:58:01
And help go through the decision and hold the conversation. 00:58:07
We recommend that you kind of discuss the various options before. 00:58:10
And then come to a level. Now there's nothing in code about how many leaders. 00:58:14
Being one, being 2, being three people selected. 00:58:18
Because it's not in code and we're moving quickly. 00:58:22
We're going to allow that to be the council member in that meeting kind of help. 00:58:24
Understand what is that? 00:58:27
Now realizing that you need to put together that plan. 00:58:30
You guys all have this. These are the decisions that you guys need to be making. 00:58:34
In order to bring this back to the Council. 00:58:38
To say we have enough information. 00:58:42
That is ready to go that we can put your plan on. 00:58:44
That we would vote and authorize a vote and we can do that as soon as next Tuesday. 00:58:48
But we have to give 24 hour notice so. 00:58:53
Monday at 6:00 we have to have. You have to give it to as well before. 00:58:56
But we have to put it into the state statute of. 00:59:01
Public notification to get that in and then a vote can happen. 00:59:03
We one of the. 00:59:07
My tone. Yeah, sorry, I'll pull it closer. 00:59:09
Zach, you started to steal my Thunder, but I need to. 00:59:12
Get this in. 00:59:15
Before you say that. 00:59:16
The benefit of having this resolution on Tuesday? 00:59:18
Where we are going to immediately start towing. 00:59:21
Anything that is a safety hazard that's already in violation of state law. 00:59:24
Is that? 00:59:28
It is an immediate. 00:59:29
Stopgap. 00:59:31
To make the roads safer. 00:59:32
And it gives you, I think, a little bit more. 00:59:35
Breathing room. 00:59:37
To make sure that we get this right. 00:59:38
Because the decisions that we're making that are going to. 00:59:40
You're going to bring back to the Council. 00:59:43
That's what we would use to draft a code or resolution or an ordinance that would. 00:59:45
Implement this for you. 00:59:51
With this. 00:59:54
Recognize if you need more time, you can have more time. 00:59:56
This is going to be largely neighborhood LED because your neighborhood is unique and your solution is going to be different than 01:00:00
other people. We're not waiting for the neighborhoods to decide. 01:00:04
To start telling. 01:00:09
Fire hydrants. 01:00:10
Stop sign stuff. That's already Utah State law that is happening. 01:00:12
So what's going to happen? Work with you regardless of whatever you guys come up with? 01:00:17
I would just want to ask. 01:00:20
For your patients. 01:00:22
And your willingness to acknowledge the different perspectives that are going to be in your communities. 01:00:23
And make sure that. 01:00:28
You understand? 01:00:30
While it may be unpopular to say, the Council has an obligation to balance. 01:00:31
Representing you and also the rights of people that maybe are not comfortable speaking up to. And so we want to find the best way 01:00:36
to build consensus and community. 01:00:41
To work through these issues. 01:00:46
Yeah, and the secret ballot, a lot of people worried about that in e-mail. Like I have to speak up for my system. No one has to 01:00:48
disclose how you vote. 01:00:52
Whatever, uh. 01:00:56
By law. 01:00:57
We have a lot of laws that we have to follow right in the voting of that. 01:00:58
So the attorney and are making sure that we follow through about that so. 01:01:03
So let's do this. 01:01:07
So, Ezra. 01:01:08
Let's do Bridgeport. 01:01:10
Let's do. 01:01:11
You want to let the UPA guy share on? Let's do question and answer after. 01:01:13
What's the question? We have a lot of vendors here. 01:01:18
And I am able to share some. 01:01:21
Well, what's what the vendors doing the. 01:01:24
Question and answer period. 01:01:26
Speak to the chair. Please speak to the chair. Thank you. 01:01:28
We're going to do question and answer. We do that after. 01:01:31
Right now we're going to have, we're going to do the breakout session, Ezra. 01:01:33
Bridgeport. 01:01:37
You guys want to meet? Let's do this one in here. 01:01:38
OK. 01:01:40
With Chaminade, With Jacob Wood. Let's go or. 01:01:43
Let's go up to the library you want upstairs the library. 01:01:46
OK, Maples, let's have Parker to the Maples. 01:01:48
Let's have them. 01:01:53
Yeah, you guys can have the foyer. 01:01:54
And then Holden, are you cool if we use the sheriff's? 01:01:58
Room. Is that OK? 01:02:01
Do we have any stuff? 01:02:03
Is that can we go in there? Any drugs in there you gotta need? 01:02:04
Marijuana that you confiscated from. 01:02:07
Teenagers at the moment it will smell like marijuana, yes. 01:02:09
OK, so it smells like marijuana, so, but we're going to go into the we're going to go into. 01:02:14
To the sheriff's room, and that'll be the. 01:02:19
Gardens so OK. 01:02:21
Bridgeport here. 01:02:23
Lechemon there. 01:02:24
OK, one last thing. 01:02:26
One last thing. 01:02:27
Let's let's do it. 01:02:28
We. 01:02:30
It's 9:30. 01:02:32
We can't be here forever. We got jobs and stuff to do in the morning. 01:02:34
How long you think? 01:02:36
1520 minutes. 01:02:37
Now you'll need more than that. 01:02:39
1/2 hour. 01:02:41
This is hey, what were the leaders, the group leaders from Tuesday? What do they think they need? Hey, group leaders from Tuesday. 01:02:42
OK, 15th must be 20 minutes. It's late. 01:02:55
OK again. 01:02:57
The commitment for me is the mayor. 01:03:00
I can control the agenda. 01:03:02
We will keep this on and work until it's. 01:03:04
Better, even if it takes a minute. 01:03:07
Thank you. Yeah, 20 minutes. So we'll be back in there at 9:50. We'll do a recess on 950. 01:03:09
I. 01:03:19
Garden. 01:03:28
The mayor is your mayor. 01:03:29
OK, awesome. 01:27:03
It's just us. 01:27:08
For the people in the foyer right now, we're going to. 01:27:17
Do public comments in a moment. If you guys would like to come in and participate in that, We'll have questions and answers. 01:27:19
If they're too loud and she beat that gavel, yeah, they'll. 01:27:25
My council chambers, Yeah, right. 01:27:45
It is dented, isn't it? 01:28:00
Do we want to? 01:28:02
Yeah, that was you. 01:28:03
You want to call Jacob Wood to see you upstairs. 01:28:04
Is like the alligator food to be back up and comfortable. 01:29:03
Alrighty guys, let's go ahead and move into public comment if you want to come in here. 01:29:19
If not, maybe we just shut the. 01:29:23
Looks like there's some conversations happening on the floor, which is totally fine. 01:29:25
Just want to. 01:29:29
Shut the door. 01:29:30
OK, awesome. 01:29:35
All righty, so we're going to jump into public comment We're it's. 01:29:37
955 So we're gonna really be we're gonna do one minute. 01:29:40
OK, one minute. 01:29:44
Public comment. 01:29:46
When you come up here, I ask you to address the chair, which is my cell. 01:29:47
Everyone that talked to me, Council, if you have questions. 01:29:51
Go through me and then we'll. That way we can have some good or order decorum here. 01:29:53
But let's uh, uh. 01:29:59
I have my. Where's that? 01:30:00
Did we do the sign in list for? 01:30:02
Let me grab that. 01:30:04
All righty. 01:30:19
What? 01:30:21
And if anyone. 01:30:23
If I call your name and you don't want to. 01:30:24
Comment. Just let me know. Totally fine. Again, it's 10:00. 01:30:27
OK, so Gabriel Judkins from Bridgeport. 01:30:31
OK, not here. OK. 01:30:35
Are we cool if I just cross off the list? OK, I'll just go like that. 01:30:39
Isaac Freckleton. 01:30:43
From the Maples. 01:30:44
He left. Awesome. 01:30:46
Can't. 01:30:48
Tamien. 01:30:51
I think it's. 01:30:52
I'm sorry I went to Orem High, I can't read good. 01:30:54
Camp Tamion. 01:30:56
Tamion. 01:30:59
Tammy's not here, all right. 01:31:00
Damian know what the T that is AT. 01:31:03
Ryan. 01:31:06
It's S. 01:31:10
Chapter Noise. 01:31:11
Yeah, from the garden. He's from the garden. 01:31:14
He lives next to my sister. 01:31:17
He's my sister's neighbor. 01:31:18
Ryan. Ryan, do you want to comment? 01:31:22
OK, alright. 01:31:26
Yes, if you. Yeah, let's do that. 01:31:31
Come on down. 01:31:33
Yes. 01:31:36
Sorry I haven't. 01:31:40
No worries at all. 01:31:42
So please say your name and your. 01:31:44
Spoke with you. 01:31:47
A little bit. So my issue name and neighborhood. Jessica Rasmussen Jessica Rasmussen Yes, I live in the gardens on Zen Rd. 01:31:49
OK, sorry. 01:31:56
So my daughter has special needs. 01:31:58
And she rides a bus to and from school. 01:32:01
And it's a specialized bus that has oxygen tanks and. 01:32:05
Special medical devices, things like that that. 01:32:09
She needs she has multiple seizures a day and has them on the bus regularly. 01:32:12
She is the first one to be. 01:32:16
Pick or the last one. 01:32:18
To be picked up in the morning. 01:32:20
The first one to be dropped off in the evening because they don't want to have to use the oxygen and stuff with it on the bus, 01:32:22
right? 01:32:24
So there has been a few times when the bus cannot drop the kids off after school and since she's the first one being dropped off, 01:32:27
there's like. 01:32:32
Half a dozen special needs children. 01:32:37
That also can't be dropped off. 01:32:39
That have been there crying on the bus needed to be offloaded. 01:32:42
From the bus. 01:32:45
And having no adult there. 01:32:46
We had to make a bunch of phone calls. We had neighbors knocking on doors. 01:32:49
The problem is the bus cannot make it from. 01:32:53
Center St. going east on Water Lane. 01:32:55
And then it can't go north onto Eden. 01:32:58
Because there's too many cars parked. 01:33:01
And I understand that it sounds like. 01:33:03
The cars that are parked by the stop signs will be removed. 01:33:05
But it's also going around the corner. So basically the bus has to go from Center St. and make a hard right and then a hard left 01:33:09
in order to get around. 01:33:13
So that's happened to. 01:33:17
A couple of times, but what most concerning is the transportation system called me this morning. 01:33:18
And they said we need to know whether or not your daughter will. 01:33:24
We'll be riding the bus within 1/2 hour of picking her up or 20 minutes of picking her up because we cannot navigate your 01:33:27
neighborhood and we will stop services if we don't hear from you. 01:33:31
The problem is. 01:33:37
My daughter's sleep is really messed up. I was up with her from 3:00 to 4:30 in the morning. I wasn't sure if she was going to 01:33:38
make it to bus. 01:33:42
For the bus at 7:35. 01:33:45
Yesterday and so. 01:33:47
She couldn't use the bus because I couldn't tell them in time. 01:33:49
Yesterday she had a seizure. 01:33:52
10 minutes before the bus came. 01:33:54
And we have a system where we just put. 01:33:56
The no bus symbol up in our window. 01:33:58
And they said that that wouldn't work anymore because it takes so much time for them to come through and try to figure out how to 01:34:01
get around the neighborhood. 01:34:05
And they can't go the other way, I guess because it's illegal for them to have the. 01:34:09
Child walk across the street. 01:34:13
Yeah, so anyway. 01:34:14
They can't back up, correct? Yes. 01:34:17
And so. 01:34:19
And we got you, you, you 2 are going to get in contact. OK, we're going to get. 01:34:20
So anyway, I just wanted, yes, I know we're on it. 01:34:25
And I just wanted to put in my. 01:34:28
Little bits that like it affects more than just. 01:34:30
You know, annoying college students that aren't supposed to be parking there or someone backing up around the corner too far, 01:34:33
things like that, someone's boat or all this stuff. Right? Yeah. So all of it just adds together, but. 01:34:39
Thanks for letting me be heard, you're awesome. 01:34:44
Appreciate all you do, your amazing mother. 01:34:47
OK, we got Brandon Peterson from the garden. 01:34:50
All right. One minute, Brandon, you're awesome. 01:34:56
Thanks. I'll be quick. Brandon Peterson. 01:34:59
I'm really excited about SHIELD. I think that this will help address a lot of the problems. I think that. 01:35:02
We have codes for a reason. I run a small business on the side. 01:35:08
And I could have. 01:35:12
Illegally run it from my home. 01:35:14
But I wanted to abide by the code. 01:35:16
In the city. 01:35:18
But that means that my break even point is $60,000. 01:35:19
For I see a single dollar in my bank account, I have to earn $60,000 to pay for a 1000 square foot shop. 01:35:24
And so I'm very. 01:35:30
I have very little. 01:35:32
Sympathy when people are complaining about $450 for towing. 01:35:33
Times that by a lot. 01:35:37
And that's what I'm paying to uphold the code. 01:35:38
And even still, I know in the future all teenage drivers. 01:35:40
Five quarter driveway extra wide to be able to accommodate that. 01:35:43
There's plenty of ways that we can solve this. 01:35:46
I do think that. 01:35:49
Putting the onus on the members of the neighborhood. 01:35:50
It's kind of pitting ourselves against each other. 01:35:52
So I don't love that. 01:35:55
And that's why I think that it is. 01:35:56
Critical that we figure out how to do this code enforcement and make it happen. 01:35:58
Thank you, Sir. 01:36:02
Awesome. Umm. 01:36:03
Let's jump to Ross Pegado. 01:36:04
From Bridgeport. 01:36:06
Ross is gone. Dakota Green from the garden. 01:36:07
Sorry, can someone take? 01:36:11
Sure. 01:36:12
Mark on. 01:36:14
I My name is Dana Blake and I'm from Bridgeport. 01:36:17
I was just wondering if we at some point could. 01:36:23
Have. 01:36:27
Some documentation on what you need from. 01:36:28
The neighborhood leadership and what you need from. 01:36:31
Are you planning on moving forward on Tuesday? 01:36:35
What's the plan was that packet? 01:36:39
You're talking long term. OK, awesome. Just like an onboarding packet or whatever, you don't need it tonight. 01:36:42
Yeah, yes, we're gathering them. 01:36:49
Thank you. Do not leave if you're a leader without giving a good template of what that looks like. OK? 01:36:51
Yeah, speak to the chair, Jay, Sorry. 01:36:58
Do not leave if you are a leader and have not given a statement, Mr. Mayor. 01:37:00
Mr. Mayor, can I have the microphone? Yeah, go ahead. 01:37:06
Please do not leave. Please do not leave until you're gonna have to teach me that. Hey, I thought Julie for two years. 01:37:09
Please give your contact information to If you were a leader. Let's get with DK David Kyle over here. 01:37:18
OK, Julie Cox already went. 01:37:27
Kristin Tanner from. 01:37:29
She is not here. 01:37:34
OK, he says he was. 01:37:36
When the when the. 01:37:37
A Stella. 01:37:40
Yeah, alright. He's good. Sorry, guys. He's good, Whitney. Good. 01:37:42
OK guys, I'm sorry I can't read. 01:37:45
Corey Anderson. 01:37:48
From the Maples. 01:37:49
You sign that paper. OK, All right. No. Hey. 01:37:52
Nothing wrong with that. 01:37:55
Yeah, you want to take his thought? Come on down. 01:37:58
Let's do that, yeah. 01:38:00
Well, the handwriting. 01:38:04
Now I Emily McLean from the Maples. 01:38:07
I appreciate that you guys are having these discussions with us and giving us the opportunity to. 01:38:10
Do research within our neighborhoods and come back although. 01:38:15
I am. I'm going to agree with the other person whose name I already forgot. 01:38:18
That, uh. 01:38:22
Putting the onus fully. 01:38:22
On us as a neighborhood where we don't understand all the like. 01:38:24
Laws and repercussions and things. 01:38:28
And it does make it feel. 01:38:30
A little tense when? 01:38:32
I don't know if there's a way to have like. 01:38:35
A council member mediator that helps with all of these meetings or. 01:38:38
Or something that can just make it a little more official than. 01:38:42
Then kind of wild discussions and help maybe correct us if we're off course as we're having these discussions within our 01:38:46
neighborhood or? 01:38:49
Make sure we're giving the. 01:38:52
Proper due process and. 01:38:54
I don't know. I love that. I would love a little more guidance because I do want the safety of our. 01:38:56
Our families and our children and. 01:39:01
And to follow proper code. 01:39:03
I just think that's a lot to put on on us as neighbors. Thank you. 01:39:05
Especially we have staff that are, I mean. 01:39:09
Holden, did you ever think you'd be a parking expert when you want to be a sheriff? But here you are, so liaison between staff and 01:39:11
and so forth. 01:39:15
To answer the questions with the our staff that are subject. 01:39:19
Matter actually talking. 01:39:21
OK, Emily Larson. 01:39:22
She left, left OK. 01:39:26
Corey Kirkland. 01:39:27
Marcus, you're up, dude. 01:39:33
You want to say anything? 01:39:34
Yeah, go Cougars. 01:39:35
Well, I just wanted to. 01:39:42
Ask. I just want to ask the impetus of like, starting this conversation. 01:39:43
One of our council members got elected. 01:39:48
To office based on the. 01:39:50
Fiasco to happen in the. 01:39:53
And the parking stuff of the lake. 01:39:54
Seems that. 01:39:56
That same fiasco is now making its way. 01:39:57
Don't potentially the guardians where I live. 01:40:01
I I think we should, I think we should tell boats and all that, those trailers and everything like this. 01:40:05
But there. 01:40:09
But there is various times where you have family visit or something like that. I don't want them to be fined between the hours of 01:40:12
one and five because they're parked there at night. 01:40:16
I think that's, I think that's an overburden. 01:40:21
Also too. 01:40:24
The Gardens is one of the few places that does not have an HOA. I think it's maybe the only. 01:40:26
Mabel, do they neither. 01:40:31
I don't want to start something that's gonna lead down to it to slip yourself. We have an HOA set up in the gardens because now we 01:40:33
have this citizen, citizen LED group that now. 01:40:38
Thinks we should get into other things. 01:40:43
That is going to happen and I'm hopefully that's not going to happen the cars because I do not want an HOA. Thank you. 01:40:45
For the record, Marcus is anti HOA. 01:40:52
We get that down, OK. 01:40:54
Second, all right, so. 01:40:56
All right, Stephanie. 01:40:58
From the garden. 01:40:59
You're good. 01:41:01
Catherine from the gardens. 01:41:02
Wrong paper? No worries. 01:41:05
Mellie from Maples. 01:41:07
Fred already went. 01:41:10
Jessica Rasmussen already went. 01:41:12
Marianne Height. 01:41:15
You got we all good, OK. 01:41:19
Yes, please. 01:41:21
Yes. 01:41:23
Sorry, wrong, she left to say my name. 01:41:24
Can you just quickly tell us the process of changing some of the wording in the code? 01:41:28
That could maybe help out our neighborhoods so that we great question. 01:41:33
You want to walk through that? 01:41:37
I don't. 01:41:38
Ask a clarifying question about. 01:41:39
Specifically in regard to what? 01:41:41
But I mean a code revision. 01:41:43
Very Simply put. 01:41:46
We draft that. 01:41:48
We take it to our legal counsel, We make sure that we're not doing anything that would violate the Constitution of the state of 01:41:49
Utah or the federal Constitution. 01:41:53
It comes back to the Council and then we vote on an implementation. 01:41:58
So if there's something specific that you would like to see change, that's just something that we need to have made recommended to 01:42:01
us. 01:42:04
So you could recommend it to any council? I would like to recommend changing the word. 01:42:08
Member of the neighborhood. 01:42:12
To be more specific on who can actually vote. 01:42:14
Right in the entire. 01:42:17
Every other city, it says. 01:42:19
By the owner. 01:42:22
But we say a member of the neighborhood, which can be very hard to. 01:42:24
Ambiguous. Ambiguous. 01:42:28
Mr. Mayor, could I share a clarifying point I got from? 01:42:30
Mr. earlier today. 01:42:33
I approached our legal counsel about. 01:42:36
Who could vote? Who couldn't vote? Because I know that that was conversations being had in multiple neighborhoods. 01:42:39
And his advice was since this is a citizen LED. 01:42:45
Endeavor that we shouldn't dictate how you structure that, but that we have to ensure. 01:42:51
It is a fair and accurate representation of the residency. So, he said. If you want to do 1 vote per household, that needs to be 01:42:56
the homeowner. If you want to open it up to all voters or everyone who's voting age in that neighborhood. 01:43:02
That's a decision that your neighborhood can make as well. 01:43:08
As far as the code specifically referencing our 75%. 01:43:11
That's something that I think the Council as a whole has agreed that we're willing to consider as long as we can get. 01:43:15
Even close to a majority consensus. 01:43:21
Because I know it's not necessarily. 01:43:25
Possible to get that 75% threshold like you have? 01:43:27
In Legeminat in Bridgeport. 01:43:31
So something that we've. 01:43:35
Considered as well as a council was. 01:43:37
Can we pass a resolution that gives an exception for this process so that you don't have to hit that threshold? 01:43:39
And we kind of just need to. 01:43:45
Talk with the neighborhoods and figure out. 01:43:47
What is actually realistic? 01:43:49
What's going to demonstrate that there is broad support for this? 01:43:51
And give the Council, like I said earlier. 01:43:54
That, uh. 01:43:57
Sufficient reason to act. 01:43:58
So the Council is actually authorized to. 01:44:04
Implement a parking program. 01:44:07
Regardless of uh. 01:44:09
How many votes? How many? 01:44:11
Like if we choose that, it's in the best interest to do that. 01:44:12
We're allowed to do that under the code. 01:44:15
So the parking permit. 01:44:18
Like that whole program was something that. 01:44:19
The prior council instituted to say hey. 01:44:21
If neighborhoods come to us. 01:44:23
Like we will do this. 01:44:25
But the council still reserves the right to to have a plan. 01:44:27
Regardless of that. So I'd say let the neighborhood select their own rules on how they want to. 01:44:31
Elect their captains, who are going to bring us a plan. 01:44:35
And if we're all good with saying. 01:44:38
As long as you guys feel comfortable about how you've. 01:44:39
Like selected your representative. 01:44:42
Like I'm willing to support. 01:44:45
You know, whatever program you guys come up with as long as. 01:44:46
I feel like it's in the best interest of the city. 01:44:49
And uh. 01:44:51
The residents as well. 01:44:52
Yeah. Thank you, Mayor. May I point out that we have tried? 01:44:53
A top down approach in the past where you forced. 01:44:56
The city forced. 01:44:59
Certain requirements on neighborhoods across the city and it was an abysmal failure. 01:45:00
Yeah, Top. 01:45:05
It's been definitely tough so. 01:45:06
OK with that. 01:45:08
We are going to adjourn the meeting tonight. We appreciate it. 01:45:10
You got the yeah guys. 01:45:13
Yes, sorry. 01:45:15
Oh, you're fine. 01:45:18
You're fine. 01:45:20
Appreciate it. One minute, yeah. 01:45:22
Just going to take a quick second. I I don't understand why. 01:45:24
The truth is so hard to get out here, but I really want to just get some information that I think would have been vital to making 01:45:28
decisions before. 01:45:32
3/4 of the people were gone. 01:45:36
My name is Mike Lamont. I'm the CEO of Utah Parking Authority. There was a parade of misinformation that has been. 01:45:38
Pass through here. 01:45:45
As far we we've done parking enforcement for Vineyard City since 2023. 01:45:48
There have only been two communities that have adopted. 01:45:53
Parking permits on their public streets that go through their. 01:45:57
Their private communities. 01:46:00
Providence in the Springs. 01:46:03
And both of those communities. 01:46:05
Are still enforcing parking as of tonight. 01:46:06
And are active and so I don't understand what the. 01:46:09
What is being said here? 01:46:12
That 2 communities have adopted it and both have. 01:46:14
Gotten rid of it, so that's not true. 01:46:19
Providence in. 01:46:22
Here are the numbers. 01:46:24
In 2023. 01:46:25
Providence can I? 01:46:26
Can I finish 30 seconds? Yep. Providence booted. We booted 118 cars. 01:46:27
And towed 3 cars in 2024 it went down to 87 booths, one tow. 01:46:32
In 2025 went from 40. 01:46:37
Down to 41 boots and one toe. 01:46:39
The Springs. 01:46:41
IN2023115 boots, in 202433 boots and in 2025. 01:46:42
24 boots and two toes. 01:46:48
That's. 01:46:49
65% and 72%. 01:46:51
Decrease. Umm. 01:46:54
From having active. 01:46:55
Parking permits on their on their property. Our role is simple. 01:46:56
The city gives us the guidelines and we enforce those. 01:47:00
At any point can the city change their mind or the community change their mind and say we want to do something differently? 01:47:03
But uh. 01:47:08
Up until this point. 01:47:10
I've made myself available to the City Council. 01:47:12
None of them. 01:47:15
Except one has taken me up on that. 01:47:16
So I would appreciate it if. 01:47:18
Before you go. 01:47:20
To the media or. 01:47:21
To these communities and have a parade of people giving. 01:47:23
Incorrect information in front of the entire. 01:47:26
Community, Yeah. 01:47:29
That you would. 01:47:30
At least. 01:47:31
Ask from the from the company that you've contracted. 01:47:32
What the actual stats are. Thank you, Sir. Can you get those steps to our David Kyle that that'd be super helpful. So thank you. 01:47:35
Appreciate that. 01:47:39
Alrighty guys. With that, we're going to turn the meeting tonight. Thank you so much for being involved in this process if you are 01:47:42
were elected. 01:47:46
As they. 01:47:50
Neighborhood representative, I guess you would say. Can you please get with David Kyle? 01:47:51
Over here get your will get your information will be in contact. 01:47:55
And, umm. 01:47:59
Thank you so much guys, we will keep working on this. 01:48:00