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| OK, all right, we're gonna go ahead and call this meeting to order. Umm, we'll begin with the pledge from Graydon Osler. | 00:00:05 | |
| We're done. | 00:00:15 | |
| I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, | 00:00:20 | |
| indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. | 00:00:26 | |
| OK, umm. | 00:00:43 | |
| Go ahead and move to public comments if anybody has comments to make about anything not on the agenda tonight. | 00:00:45 | |
| Feel free. | 00:00:57 | |
| Cool. | 00:01:02 | |
| Looks like that is. | 00:01:04 | |
| No comments for that tonight. OK, go to item 3, consent items. | 00:01:07 | |
| Uh, approving the minutes for let's say 3.1 is for December 6, 2020, three 3.2 of January 17th 2024. | 00:01:13 | |
| And then 3.3 is February 7th, 2024. | 00:01:26 | |
| MF to approve the consent item, do you have a second? Second. Uh, excellent. Moving on to item 4. | 00:01:34 | |
| Business item umm, is that a public hearing for the general plan update for Gold 2 technology element? Looks like we have a | 00:01:47 | |
| presentation from Morgan Brim and then when we open up public hearing like two select after that for comment. Yeah, I see you can | 00:01:55 | |
| open it now and then I'll put that and then just the time will come up and speak. | 00:02:03 | |
| Umm. So this is a umm. | 00:02:13 | |
| Uh, so yeah. So this is the general plan amendment that we had discussed in, uh, previous meetings. Umm, the City Council had | 00:02:15 | |
| requested, umm, a, umm, an amendment to our ordinance. And umm, we had Chris Bramwell from the umm, Planning Commission that was | 00:02:23 | |
| umm, assigned to work with staff, work with their city attorney to start developing, umm, the, the pro pro proposed language to | 00:02:30 | |
| our general plan. The idea was to make it kind of higher level, umm, have. | 00:02:38 | |
| Language within the job plan. And then as we start to adopt new technologies, umm, that we would be able to use this as kind of, | 00:02:45 | |
| uh, guidelines for us, uh, most likely the city, umm, my understanding is interested in the City Council is interested in adopting | 00:02:53 | |
| kind of a more robust policy. So I'm assuming you're gonna see that a little later in the future. Umm, and uh, I know there are | 00:03:00 | |
| some bills, uh, like through the, in the state legislature, I think there's one that's being worked on that'll probably come out. | 00:03:08 | |
| Next year that'll have, umm, kind of more, uh, requirements on a state level that only passed down to the the municipalities, umm. | 00:03:15 | |
| So we have held a, uh, work session, umm, on this item in both Planning Commission and City Council. Uh, we did have a public | 00:03:27 | |
| comment, umm, in the past that asked us to add to Strategy 5 contracts and contractors, umm. | 00:03:36 | |
| And, and so, and so I'll just read out so strategy 5 to show that all current and future study, umm, contracts and contractors | 00:03:45 | |
| include measures that protect sensitive data and dispose of it properly. So, umm, O overall, this is, provides us kind of guidance | 00:03:52 | |
| that we are putting, umm, you know, the safeguarding of, umm, personal information and, and sense of data that kind of the | 00:04:00 | |
| forefront, umm, as we work with contractors and as we, umm, implement, uh, technology. | 00:04:07 | |
| When I say technology, they're, they're, umm, you know, we're starting to see umm, a lot of technology coming out, umm, to help | 00:04:15 | |
| with parking, umm, there, there's a lot of apps and stuff like that. And so ensuring that we don't need to hold on to information | 00:04:23 | |
| longer than that is necessary. Umm, and with the forward discussions, you remember that we umm, did discuss with uh, Steve Burup, | 00:04:30 | |
| the development manager with that company that, umm, they do have some umm, license, uh, umm, information. | 00:04:38 | |
| Is, umm, is license plate information that is, is gathered to help kind of ensure people that are allowed to park in the, in the | 00:04:45 | |
| park structure have that the right and they use that through for code enforcement, but we also don't wanna have them holding on to | 00:04:52 | |
| that information for a long time. So, umm, and then we would also, umm, kinda look at those same type of, of measures when, if we, | 00:04:58 | |
| uh, develop our own parking structures and things like that. | 00:05:05 | |
| Umm, you know, and a lot of the technology too. And I, I'd say like when we, umm, we look at some of kind of what's called like | 00:05:12 | |
| the, the, umm, smart city stuff, we're looking at like things for the beach area where you have umm, trash cans and receptacles | 00:05:17 | |
| that. | 00:05:22 | |
| By that overall, umm. | 00:05:58 | |
| Umm, guidance A as we do that. And uh, yeah, I'm assuming that runs are just gonna be a more robust policy in the future and | 00:06:01 | |
| that'll probably align with the state code amendments coming down the line. So, uh, yeah, this is, this would affect, umm, goal 2 | 00:06:07 | |
| as a technology element of the general plan and add 3 new strategies and then amend, uh, strategy three. So, umm, any questions or | 00:06:12 | |
| comments? | 00:06:18 | |
| Great and. | 00:06:28 | |
| Yeah. | 00:06:30 | |
| At what point does the city attorney take a look at this? Is that purely once these strategies are used to actually create | 00:06:32 | |
| municipal code? Umm, so they never look at the general plan or do they look at it at the time that it comes to the council? Or | 00:06:38 | |
| have they already looked at? Yeah, they have already. OK. Yeah. So we, we have like a small committee. So Chris Brown was on the | 00:06:44 | |
| committee, umm, and then Jamie, our, our council and then a couple staff members. And so, umm, we developed that kind of within | 00:06:50 | |
| that committee and umm. | 00:06:56 | |
| But yeah, as we start to develop technology, most likely we have our, our legal counsel, umm, help us in like reviewing contracts | 00:07:02 | |
| and, and that kind of stuff to ensure that for umm, you know, safeguarding information about holding on to dispose of it. And | 00:07:08 | |
| that's for the language and the general plan itself. These strategies do do they weigh in to say, Oh yeah, yeah, this doesn't make | 00:07:13 | |
| sense? Yeah, I'll, I'll, I'll, yeah, I'll, I'll go into this get, get reviewed by that. | 00:07:19 | |
| By the attorney. | 00:07:25 | |
| Supposed to open up a public hearing. | 00:07:30 | |
| Alright, 2nd. | 00:07:34 | |
| Uh, do I don't? No, we don't need the No, not not the open. Excellent stuff. | 00:07:36 | |
| Do we got anything today? No, you don't. You don't have to. No pressure. | 00:07:43 | |
| Yeah. Sorry, Evan. | 00:07:51 | |
| Umm, when you were talking about becoming a more robust for strategy too, what did you mean by that? Are we gonna have even more | 00:07:54 | |
| strict requirements coming down as far as the technology is concerned? Yeah, Umm, that's, that's what I, I'm assuming. I mean, we, | 00:08:02 | |
| we don't know until happens, but it sounds like this sets us up for umm, for an actual like policy that would have like detailed | 00:08:09 | |
| information. Umm, I, I, I'm assuming. | 00:08:17 | |
| We'll have, umm, a, a privacy officer or someone who, with a tech background right now we contract a lot of those like technical | 00:08:24 | |
| services out, umm, but uh, you know, as we grow, most likely we're gonna have an IT person and they'll be designated, umm, you | 00:08:32 | |
| know, privacy officer. What we're seeing is on the state level that they're working, umm, quite a bit on a, uh, a privacy, privacy | 00:08:39 | |
| and just personal information protection kind of, uh, umm, law and they. | 00:08:47 | |
| Up now, so we'll be amending that umm, so we would probably have to develop a more robust umm policy to align with that, with that | 00:08:54 | |
| state strategy, the state umm code. OK, thank you. And then do we have a. | 00:09:01 | |
| Companies that you're. | 00:09:08 | |
| Working this through with already. Is there somebody, Yeah, well, Chris, umm, Bramwell, he's the, uh, the state designated privacy | 00:09:11 | |
| officer. So it was, it was really great resource. So, so we work closely with him and, uh, we also met with, uh, a committee, umm, | 00:09:17 | |
| it's, uh, Senator Moss is, is, is, is, is part of that. He's working on, on some language. So we, we, we've met with them and | 00:09:23 | |
| talked to some other people, umm. | 00:09:29 | |
| But I'm tracking with anybody to put this in place right now, uh, company, no, what all of all this will be right now is it'll | 00:09:37 | |
| provide kind of the general plan. | 00:09:41 | |
| Framework and it'll help kind of, uh, it'll make sure that as we implement technology that that's something that that we go back | 00:09:46 | |
| to because we we use a general plan we make decisions we go back and go OK, are we aligning with that? This would be umm, the goal | 00:09:52 | |
| that we go to for, for technology advancements and and implementation. Umm, but most likely I, I would imagine as we get bigger | 00:09:58 | |
| and bigger that we would actually have like a staff member who's in it individual issues that designated officer for us. OK, well | 00:10:03 | |
| thank you yeah absolutely. | 00:10:09 | |
| OK, cool. Umm, and this would be a a recommendation to this example. OK, doing it that close public hearing before we make | 00:10:22 | |
| recommendations. Yeah, you're good. OK, I move to close this public hearing. | 00:10:28 | |
| A second. | 00:10:36 | |
| And you'll need, uh, about an hour. OK, all in favor. | 00:10:38 | |
| Aye, aye. Cool. All right. Umm, cool. Does anybody wanna make a motion? You wanna make the motion? I move to approve item 4.1, the | 00:10:42 | |
| general plan update, uh, Goal 2 technology element for recommendation to the City Council. OK, do you have a second? OK, let's | 00:10:50 | |
| roll call it. Yeah, this is roll call. OK, Nathan. OK, thanks. Bye. OK, I Graydon. Hi, Brad. Hi. | 00:10:58 | |
| Thank you. | 00:11:08 | |
| Umm but we have two 4.2 the GRMU gateway entry sign. Looks like we are gonna hear from Carla with X development. | 00:11:10 | |
| Umm, for a gateway entry, sign along 400 N in Geneva. | 00:11:21 | |
| That's not. | 00:11:37 | |
| OK, uh, Carla Masa with X development umm, I think that cash has been gonna prevent today, but apparently he's not feeling well. | 00:11:43 | |
| So, umm, I was not prepared to but the office. Uh-huh. So essentially the the McDonald's. | 00:11:52 | |
| Umm, that kind of provision with the condition that in order for them to get umm, their building permit, that they would have to | 00:12:02 | |
| umm, have a monument sign approved to climate Commission. So we are prepared to fulfill that umm. | 00:12:09 | |
| And just click on that. | 00:12:18 | |
| Oh, did I miss that? | 00:12:21 | |
| OK. | 00:12:23 | |
| Advise. | 00:12:26 | |
| OK. And then? | 00:12:29 | |
| I'm sure you're here. | 00:12:33 | |
| Yeah. | 00:12:47 | |
| Is it not just fine there? I'll raise it. You can just use it from the the the agenda. | 00:12:50 | |
| Essentially it's umm, the monument sign is regarded as a sign that proposed for McDonald's. So to offset that, we are proposing | 00:13:00 | |
| that location be a little bit farther. So umm, and on a diagnosed so that it can be seen when you're entering into vineyards, | 00:13:07 | |
| they'll show it and then you can get it up. Umm, and just to tell you a little bit about the sign, it's basically a cast concrete | 00:13:13 | |
| sign, umm, with the. | 00:13:20 | |
| Front backward channel letter, umm, that, umm, well, obviously be a little bit nice. Umm, because Vineyard and uh, it's basically | 00:13:28 | |
| that it is that it's good. Basically, you're right, that is correct. | 00:13:36 | |
| By 10 feet wide uh-huh so I thought it nothing too fast but it definitely accomplishes the goal of providing a monument feature | 00:13:46 | |
| and umm you're welcoming people sitting there any luck there we go there it is and it's glory so 10 feet wide 4 1/2 feet tall and | 00:13:56 | |
| then it's just got the signage so and Carla this is on the. | 00:14:05 | |
| West corner of 400 N Beaver Rd. which doesn't punch through all the way but it it sets it up for what it does. It doesn't have the | 00:14:14 | |
| map showing the location on there. | 00:14:19 | |
| It's 26, OK. | 00:14:29 | |
| Agenda packet of that site plan. Yeah, it should be on an agenda packet, correct? | 00:14:32 | |
| Is this something that could be moved in the future? Just looking at the map of it, it looks like it's gonna be quite a distance | 00:14:42 | |
| away from the corner there. | 00:14:46 | |
| The, the hard part is, I mean, it's, there's that you see, it's kind of a triangular piece at the top. That's all you got right | 00:14:52 | |
| away. Yeah. And so we're really limited in where we can put it. Umm, you also see there's the, the monument signs for McDonald's. | 00:14:58 | |
| That's, uh, can you hover over that #7 So that's there. So our proposed location is marching yellow and that, umm, McDonald's | 00:15:04 | |
| approved that location. | 00:15:11 | |
| Umm. | 00:15:18 | |
| Or so when the, when the intersection gets umm, approved or improved, umm by UDOT that this will be the corner it it'll, it'll, | 00:15:19 | |
| it'll be the first one right there. Do we know what the dimensions of the McDonald's monument sign are yet? I don't know. I, I, I | 00:15:26 | |
| don't see there's the middle package for that. I don't, I don't know if they submitted their signed package yet yeah, we got their | 00:15:33 | |
| site plan approval. Uh, so we're my only worry with the monument sign, the two of them being that close together and. | 00:15:41 | |
| The vineyard sign being that close to the actual building is that it would be like McDonald's and vineyards, you know? And, umm, | 00:15:48 | |
| we have that on average, we have a right, Yeah. And so I'm wondering. | 00:15:53 | |
| Since this is advertising our community, if there's a potential for a variance to make it a little bit larger. | 00:15:59 | |
| Because it's our community. | 00:16:06 | |
| The cards are actually coming in from the the north side of 400 mills right. If, if that's the case, then absolutely. So I mean | 00:16:39 | |
| that's gonna be where their eyes are gonna be more drawn and so that's outside the other side because that some more side is gonna | 00:16:44 | |
| be like the the mural Linda whole deal yeah, I don't have like umm, I think yeah, it'll help ground floor retail and residential | 00:16:49 | |
| above it. | 00:16:54 | |
| So we'll have kind of a nice urban wall effect. And with this McDonald's too, umm, the code had them pull it all the way up. So | 00:17:01 | |
| you know, it's a drive through the drafting in the back. So at least you, you can kind of like that Bergen wall on both sides. | 00:17:07 | |
| OK. | 00:17:14 | |
| OK. Has staff already approved the specs of the sign when it comes to the lumen count and the site ordinance that yeah. So that | 00:17:17 | |
| what we'll have our billing official look at that, at that part of that. So that would be a yeah. | 00:17:24 | |
| I don't have any other questions, OK Anybody else? | 00:17:37 | |
| All right. Do we have a lotion? | 00:17:42 | |
| I moved to accept the plan as presented. | 00:17:45 | |
| OK. Do not click it all in favor. Aye. OK, Thank you very much. | 00:17:50 | |
| OK, that brings us to #5 our work session. | 00:17:57 | |
| Uh, let's see item 5.1, the Transportation Master Plan update we'll be hearing from Patrick James. | 00:18:01 | |
| An engineer and when I guess we're having, we have some updates, yes, yeah. So as you know, the city contracted with sales | 00:18:11 | |
| engineering to put together a transportation master plan and that includes capital facilities plan and intent fee analysis. | 00:18:19 | |
| Umm, this is to help the city, uh, strategically plan our transportation needs, umm, in the most efficient way, uh, financially | 00:18:29 | |
| and to help our community, umm, enhance our community. So Josh Gibbons and Ryan Hales will present their update. | 00:18:37 | |
| Awesome. Thanks, Patrick. So Josh Stevens with Hales Engineering plug in. | 00:18:50 | |
| Yeah, I see. I have. Yeah, yeah, I tested it before too. So. | 00:19:00 | |
| Ship again. | 00:19:05 | |
| Give me a little bit. | 00:19:08 | |
| There we go. | 00:19:10 | |
| Sweet, thank you. | 00:19:14 | |
| Well, we're excited to be here today. Like I said, I'm Josh Gibbons. We got Ryan Hills here as well. | 00:19:16 | |
| I think last year you, you may recall the came and presented when we were kind of starting on this plan. We're still working | 00:19:23 | |
| through it and planning, planning to finalize things in the in the next few months. | 00:19:28 | |
| Umm, we've had a lot of discussions in the last, uh, few months with staff and, umm, and others about, umm, roadway scenarios in | 00:19:34 | |
| this, in the city as far as potential projects. And, uh, tonight, uh, we're, we're here to review that information with you, uh, | 00:19:42 | |
| as a refresh. I know, umm, most of you heard that last year, but want to make sure you all hear it again. And then, uh, we have | 00:19:49 | |
| kind of an alternative, uh, scenario to present tonight as well, uh, that we wanna take your feedback on and as we work to. | 00:19:57 | |
| Finalize the plan we'll be presenting to City Council next week as well, uh, with the same information. And we, we, we met with | 00:20:05 | |
| them, uh, individually this, this earlier this week about this as well. So, uh, if you have any questions as I, as I go along, | 00:20:12 | |
| please ask. I have about 10 slides. I'll try to keep it quick tonight. Umm, so as a kind of an overview, umm, like uh, Patrick | 00:20:19 | |
| said, we're, we're completing kind of four different plans here. The, the main one would be the transportation master. | 00:20:27 | |
| Them so the purpose of that plan is to identify future traffic demand in the city and to look at needed, uh, transportation | 00:20:35 | |
| projects. Umm, that would include Robey projects, active transportation projects and transit, uh, opportunities as well. Uh, | 00:20:41 | |
| tonight our focus will be on kind of the roadway side, but we, we are also working on the others as well. Umm, the next plan is | 00:20:48 | |
| the capital field facilities plan, which looks at the cost of those projects. | 00:20:55 | |
| The and then the next to look at impact fees and you know how much we we we identify. | 00:21:03 | |
| The eligibility of those projects to be funded by impact fees. And then we calculated impact fee that developers pay, umm, when | 00:21:08 | |
| they bring their projects in. That would be, uh, you know, a per trip or a per unit, uh, rates that they would pay for impact | 00:21:14 | |
| fees. | 00:21:20 | |
| So just a quick overview of existing conditions, umm, as you know, you know, there are a couple of UU dot state roads that you | 00:21:28 | |
| know are within Vineyard city boundaries. You've got Vineyard Connector, which was just completed around the band. There. You have | 00:21:35 | |
| Geneva Rd. uh, shown in red on the screen here. The rest of the roads are city roads shown in blue. Uh, the focus of this TMP is | 00:21:42 | |
| really city road because that's what impact fees can be used for, uh. | 00:21:49 | |
| The, umm, those impact fees can't, cannot be used for state roads unless it's some sort of local match that that is required by | 00:21:57 | |
| the state for a road project. So, umm, just so you're aware, the focus really here is, uh, those city roads. Though the plan does | 00:22:05 | |
| look at the EU dot road to recommend potential changes and upgrades to make sure traffic flows as well through the city. | 00:22:14 | |
| Umm, last time we came, we talked a little bit, a little bit about level of service. So as a review, uh, level of services, the | 00:22:25 | |
| measure we used to measure congestion and delay. So, uh, in this master plan, this kind of high level master plan, we looked at it | 00:22:32 | |
| at a roadway segment basis. Umm, it's based on how many cars a day you have on the road compared to a certain capacity. So just as | 00:22:39 | |
| a general reference, uh, a three lane Rd. which is a 11 lane per direction with middle turn lanes. | 00:22:46 | |
| That can handle up to about 18,000 cars a day. Five lanes can handle it up to about 37,000 cars a day. So we use that as a | 00:22:54 | |
| reference and we identify A level of service, umm. | 00:22:59 | |
| In general, level of service A through D is acceptable. So in this plan we've identified that for umm, smaller roads like local | 00:23:06 | |
| roads and collectors that uh, we even said, uh, a better standard. I would say A level of service fee for local roads or level of | 00:23:13 | |
| service C or better for collectors, if that makes sense. The bigger roads arterioles we would want to have LOSD or better, which | 00:23:20 | |
| is typical for, for U dot and others. | 00:23:27 | |
| So I wanna show you kind of the existing and future conditions of that level of service analysis, **** analysis. So just really | 00:23:36 | |
| quick, you can see here that umm. | 00:23:41 | |
| Overall, most of the roads show up as green, meaning it's a good level of service in the city. Uh, currently, umm, the one that's | 00:23:46 | |
| pretty is somewhat congested with these in your connector. Umm, which is LOSD still acceptable, but congested, and U dot has made | 00:23:53 | |
| some recent improvements there to make that flow, uh, better than it did. I think in that section, uh, West of Geneva Rd. you'll | 00:24:00 | |
| see we have some red dots at certain intersections that today. | 00:24:06 | |
| Uh, view perform at poor levels of service during peak hours. And so within this plan, we're looking at, uh, ways to, umm, add | 00:24:14 | |
| maybe turn lanes or change, uh, characteristics there to improve the traffic flow overall. | 00:24:20 | |
| As we go to a future condition, we've, we've taken the, the mag travel demand model, which uh, has, you know, land use | 00:24:27 | |
| assumptions. We've updated those assumptions with all the known developments within the city to make sure it's up to date and | 00:24:33 | |
| accurate. Umm, so looking at a 10 year horizon, umm, you can see that we have a couple more congested roads, which would be | 00:24:39 | |
| Vineyard connector. Umm, and then, uh, center St. shows a little bit of congestion, congestion. So, umm, in these cases we can | 00:24:45 | |
| either, uh, look at. | 00:24:51 | |
| Vininger Rd. to improve the level of service, which in the case of Vineyard Connector, uh, Mac just this week, I, I believe, umm, | 00:24:57 | |
| modify their plan to make sure they're planning for A5 Lane Rd. there, which would accommodate for, uh, you know, the majority of | 00:25:03 | |
| the traffic shown here, which is a good, good, uh, but they did that, Umm, the other thing we could do instead of winding is to | 00:25:09 | |
| look at other. | 00:25:15 | |
| Umm, new facilities to take pressure off of UH-1 facility. So in the case of Center St. | 00:25:22 | |
| We're looking at, are there other east, West roads we can kind of bolster or add to improve that level of service? | 00:25:27 | |
| Uh, jumping over to 2050 conditions, kind of a 20 plus year horizon, you can see that with all the development proposed in the | 00:25:36 | |
| city that, uh, with today's system at least, you know, we would see congestion on Vineyard connector, uh, all of it on, on main | 00:25:43 | |
| streets, umm, center St. still as well. Geneva 1600 N. So within this, we're, we're propo proposing projects, uh, many of which | 00:25:50 | |
| are already planned on. For example, 1600 N has already planned to go to five lanes, which would handle, uh, the. | 00:25:58 | |
| In there umm and Josh really quick to uh clarify these are without any changes so so the infrastructure have built out with no | 00:26:05 | |
| changes correct yes thanks Morgan so like I said there are some projects that already plan to fix some of these issues that we | 00:26:13 | |
| will kind of reiterate in the plan umm with these volumes uh on vineyards connector with 50,000 plus cars a day that's you're | 00:26:20 | |
| you're looking at kind of A7 lane road right you're you're beyond the five lanes where we we. | 00:26:28 | |
| At least seven lanes to accommodate that umm mag in their long range plan. And I'll show that in a second. I guess they're | 00:26:35 | |
| actually calling out that you, you may need even an Expressway type Rd. umm, which is higher speeds getting closer to kind of what | 00:26:42 | |
| Bangor highway is today. Umm, it's kind of what that umm Expressway Expressway would be. So we've taken this, we, we have a, we | 00:26:49 | |
| have a draft list of projects we're looking at. | 00:26:56 | |
| And uh. | 00:27:04 | |
| And, and, and we'll be kind of working through that. Umm, but as we put that project list together, which would include seven | 00:27:05 | |
| lanes on Vineyard connector and other projects, Umm, and, and I guess one more thing to add, because of that volume up in your | 00:27:11 | |
| connector, that intersection of, like I said, I don't have a pointer, umm, of Main Street and Vineyards connector with all the | 00:27:17 | |
| volume there, you would need some sort of large intersection to accommodate that traffic, right? So which we don't know if we have | 00:27:23 | |
| room for that at this stage. | 00:27:29 | |
| And so because of that and other reasons, umm, because of, you know, the potential of seven lanes of vineyard connector, which | 00:27:35 | |
| would divide the city pretty severely and make it hard to cross between the downtown and the South part of, uh, vineyards, we | 00:27:43 | |
| tried to look outside the box, I think outside the box and look at other options. So that's what we're talking about tonight. Umm | 00:27:50 | |
| is an alternative to maybe this kind of base scenario. Umm, So what's shown on the screen right now is the, uh, current mag plan. | 00:27:57 | |
| Transportation plan. You can see that the uh, and I will get the mouse real quick, so I can point a couple things. | 00:28:05 | |
| This makes a little bit easier. Umm, so you can see here that, umm, the red roads shown are kind of freeway facilities that | 00:28:21 | |
| they're planning. The orange roads are expressways. The black lines are arterial roads. As you can see that they're planning on | 00:28:27 | |
| umm, a potential Expressway along, along vineyard connection that would come straight down past the downtown through, through | 00:28:33 | |
| vineyards and over backside 15. Umm, what we're trying to look at is, is there a way to not divide, uh, vineyards more than it is | 00:28:39 | |
| right? We, we don't want. | 00:28:45 | |
| Rail is already a division in the city if we're trying to think outside the box that other options to not divide the city anymore. | 00:28:51 | |
| So the concept we're talking about right now with staff, uh, would be what's now shown on the screen, which is instead of taking | 00:28:58 | |
| umm vineyard connector down and that potential Expressway down past the downtown and on kind of the 800 N alignment down here, is | 00:29:06 | |
| there a way that we could bring that Expressway on the 1600 N alignment down on Geneva Rd. So we. | 00:29:13 | |
| The benefits to this, umm, it, it creates a parallel route to I-15, which can take pressure off of I-15. Uh, it puts that traffic | 00:29:21 | |
| on the outside of, uh, Vineyard Cities boundaries and down Geneva Rd. They're already planning Expressway to the South and Provo | 00:29:28 | |
| to take it across the Bay at some point past the airport. And so in our minds, this kind of fills that gap and completes the, the | 00:29:34 | |
| system. Umm, so we, we feel it has benefits both locally and regionally. | 00:29:41 | |
| So to look at a little bit more detail, we've kind of developed these concepts on the left side and what, what it would be in Max | 00:29:49 | |
| current alignments and current plan with kind of the bigger Rd. shown in the pinkish color, uh, around the downtown and, and | 00:29:56 | |
| cutting through the city. Umm, and then you have Geneva Rd. as another major Rd. Of course, the alternative would be that instead | 00:30:03 | |
| you would take that road, follow the 1600 N alignment and then come down Geneva Rd. | 00:30:10 | |
| In either plan, there's going to be some sort of element of elevating growth to get them over the rail alignments. So that happens | 00:30:18 | |
| in the current plan. It would also happen in the alternative, the alternative. | 00:30:24 | |
| Umm, you know, would have more need for elevation to keep it above the rail lines that are there and umm, to keep a free flow | 00:30:30 | |
| movement basically from that 1600 N to Geneva Rd. Umm, So it's not umm, it's not cheap of course, to do this. But overall we feel | 00:30:37 | |
| that alignment wise and umm and you know, walkability wise for the city as a whole, we think that this could be a better alignment | 00:30:43 | |
| overall. | 00:30:50 | |
| Umm, the last thing here to look at would be, uh, potential traffic volumes, umm, in that scenario. | 00:30:58 | |
| The one thing that you know, gets me excited is seeing that in this scenario, we think that it takes pressure off off of I-15. It | 00:31:05 | |
| drops umm, I-15 by 15,000 cars a day by our estimates. Umm, it drops, you know where vineyards connector or this loop that, umm, | 00:31:12 | |
| depends Rd. here, uh, where it was at 50,000 plus, we now drop to 30,000 around through the downtown uh, which is much more | 00:31:20 | |
| manageable, but you can, you can keep that as A5 lane Rd. in this case and make it much easier for. | 00:31:27 | |
| Experience across back and forth, umm, potentially there's a, there's a way to keep speeds lower to, to increase safety around | 00:31:35 | |
| there too. Umm, yeah. So those, those are kind of the, uh, ideas. The other thing I wanna point out here is that, umm, uh, we're, | 00:31:41 | |
| we're talking about a crossing over the rail that you probably know about at 1200 N to go into the downtown as well. That's a, | 00:31:48 | |
| that's a key connection to take pressure off of, umm, this alignment too. | 00:31:54 | |
| And then excuse me. | 00:32:02 | |
| And then the, uh, we're also talking about a four, 400 doors, uh, possible connection to the South. | 00:32:05 | |
| Umm, with that I'll get a drink and uh, any questions at this point I guess. | 00:32:12 | |
| Yeah, I was wondering. | 00:32:18 | |
| How, What? What have you got response then to this alternative idea? | 00:32:25 | |
| So, yeah, we, we went with TDOT, uh, you know, a few weeks, a few weeks ago on this, umm, their initial thought, I think Ani | 00:32:32 | |
| initial response was umm, umm, you know, a little bit of surprise, right? Umm, they've, uh, they've, they've built the vineyard | 00:32:40 | |
| connector that exists today. And so I think, uh, you know, it won't be, you know, easy, I guess to convince them. But I think | 00:32:47 | |
| overall we have some great reasonings both locally and regionally to umm, to go with this alignment. | 00:32:55 | |
| As opposed to the other one? Umm, enough to you? I don't know if you want to add anything to that or Patrick to our discussion or | 00:33:03 | |
| yeah. | 00:33:06 | |
| So anything to verify the worst director? | 00:33:16 | |
| Uh, so, uh, again, this is just a workshop, uh, to, uh, uh, Planning Commission, City Council feedback, uh, to get some feedback | 00:33:18 | |
| and, uh, some direction, umm, as well. Uh, this is, uh, we haven't hit hit yet hit the public hearing portion of the, uh, of the | 00:33:26 | |
| mass, uh, transportation master plan. Uh, but in regards to, uh, with the dot. And I know that, uh, they're constantly looking | 00:33:33 | |
| away to help, uh, lessen the load off I-15 specifically and also getting. | 00:33:41 | |
| And with the routes going towards the the uh, uh. | 00:33:48 | |
| Very dri, uh, the, uh, any, excuse me, uh, I'm sorry, the, the driveway, uh, the, the drive to get to, uh, the springs and Eagle | 00:33:55 | |
| Mountain. Uh, you guys are also looking into, uh, the South of Vineyard City and, uh, and Orem by uh, uh, through Provo, uh, the, | 00:34:02 | |
| I think they call it the right shore Blvd. | 00:34:10 | |
| If I'm not mistaken, like you Parkway, don't you like view Parkway about, uh, you know, extending that to make that AOI 15 | 00:34:18 | |
| alternative as well. So in that sense, what this would do is kind of extend that, uh, alternative northward, uh, along, uh, kind | 00:34:25 | |
| of like an asset along Geneva and then provide like another alternative route, uh, into the Perry Drive Parkway. Yeah, thank you. | 00:34:33 | |
| Parkway. No, I'm sorry. The one that goes out to Sarah's number 25. | 00:34:40 | |
| There we go. I'm sorry, uh, uh, alternative as well. Now what do you got? Uh, what, uh, the weather you guys like to do as well as | 00:34:48 | |
| like, uh, to do, uh, resonate about 45 miles an hour, uh, bus was a little connection, uh, and then of course this would provide | 00:34:55 | |
| that, that type of connections as well. Umm, we're asking yeah. We're actively working with, uh, uh, the, uh, E dot and then all | 00:35:03 | |
| the other people to get fi finalized. Uh, I I. | 00:35:10 | |
| The property owners, uh, to deal with, uh, for this different Rd. ticket finalized design. But uh, in that sense, umm, the | 00:35:18 | |
| question that, uh, the DOC always asks and then you wanna always ask is has, you know, hasn't been done through the, uh, uh, like | 00:35:25 | |
| I said, let us play his bodies and so and such. And then when we kind of finalize a kind of get more of a solidified plan put | 00:35:33 | |
| together, like for example, alternative plan here. And I know, umm, Josh is gonna go. | 00:35:40 | |
| So it doesn't have any specific detail, uh, specifics about connections and so forth. And by the time we presented a public | 00:35:48 | |
| hearing, we'll have a better understanding of those types of, uh, details as well. | 00:35:54 | |
| Uh, it's a long explanation to probably short of to what should have been a short answer. | 00:36:02 | |
| It's very informative though. Umm, yeah, go ahead. Umm, so. | 00:36:08 | |
| Oh First off I love the ideas and alternate the 1st house corridor. I I don't know anyone that would umm disagree with that. It's | 00:36:14 | |
| nice to have multiple rows to get there. Umm is this proposed Whether it's the current plan or the alternative plan? Would that be | 00:36:21 | |
| U dot right of way or city right of way? The idea is that the alternative route would be a U dot facility. OK, but the current | 00:36:28 | |
| plan as proposed is city right of way along $1600. | 00:36:35 | |
| That that, umm, that is correct. Yeah. OK and I believe. | 00:36:42 | |
| And Naseem just mentioned that there would still be, there isn't enough right of way right now in the alternative plan that you | 00:36:47 | |
| thought would need to acquire it in order to make this work. Correct. But that's, that's correct. And specifically with the umm, | 00:36:55 | |
| kind of those spots with the fence, umm, you know that that is not right away. Yeah. But as nothing says, there's already been | 00:37:02 | |
| some conversations with property owners about that and they overall been favorable to what I understand. OK. | 00:37:09 | |
| Yeah, umm, yeah. I mean, state wants to buy my property, yeah, but I I'm worried about additional costs there. I'm sure you got | 00:37:17 | |
| has the money to do it, but because it is all within the city of Vineyard that will absolutely need to be part of the analysis. | 00:37:25 | |
| The alternative plan, what would that cost be including ongoing costs, if there's any fair share fees that the city would need to | 00:37:32 | |
| pay to UDOT. Umm, I hope that's just part of the analysis before we move. | 00:37:40 | |
| Action like the other yeah great, great question that's something we still need to kind of discuss more umm that'll be worked on | 00:37:47 | |
| as we go along. So OK, but for what it's worth, I mean if money wasn't any issue alternative plan all the way yeah right. I love | 00:37:54 | |
| it yeah to tack on his question there, uh, would the current U dot Rd. they were to approve it the alternate plan with the current | 00:38:01 | |
| Rd. on 800 N it flows around clicks on the city road or would that continue state U dot Rd. | 00:38:08 | |
| Umm current conversations would be have been saying that it would stay as U dot Rd. but. | 00:38:16 | |
| There's always a possibility it could change hands back to the city. Umm, Either way, I think you know, talking with staff you | 00:38:22 | |
| know would be a desire to umm. | 00:38:27 | |
| Make it more accessible potentially, if we can slow it down, if there's less cars, maybe we can get another access up. Yeah, | 00:38:33 | |
| that's what I'm thinking. Umm, if it's, you know, it's hard to say, but umm, yeah, yeah, OK. It's it's really double edged sword. | 00:38:40 | |
| Umm, when if the city acquires it, we have to pay for it. We have to pay for it, but then we have control on its development | 00:38:46 | |
| happening on the other side. What we want that to be what protests are putting in. That's awesome. But then, yeah, pay for it. | 00:38:53 | |
| Yeah. I'd kind of be curious to hear what some of the developers of this area think about this plan, because I mean, obviously | 00:39:00 | |
| this cuts through the majority of your development. | 00:39:05 | |
| Would you mind commenting on that? If if you if you don't have a comment, that's fine too, but, uh. | 00:39:10 | |
| Like, unofficially, yeah. Unofficially, yeah. | 00:39:16 | |
| Good. | 00:39:19 | |
| Cool, cool. Alright, alright. Again. And just to add my opinion to it, I think the alternative plan is an absolute like no brainer | 00:39:22 | |
| if we can pull it off. The alternative plan makes way more sense with the way our our city is set up. Yeah. | 00:39:29 | |
| And, and I just wanna add some too. I, I, it's almost like I lost the beak in that alternative location. On that side, you have | 00:39:37 | |
| industrial uses which actually are gonna benefit a lot from from being able to have direct access because one thing you were | 00:39:44 | |
| looking at having a connection on Mill Road. And so, umm, because it is elevated on 1600 N that alternative route is that you | 00:39:52 | |
| could have basically a direct connection and that would be a good truck route as opposed to having trucks go through the city. | 00:39:59 | |
| Residential, that area up there is, is industrial, so it, it kind of uh, I, I think actually works really well. Some something | 00:40:06 | |
| else to add, uh, when you're talking about the overpass for the track right there, uh, I feel like on the current plan going at an | 00:40:13 | |
| angle there, it would have to be a much larger overpass than with the alternate plan just going at a nine like directly | 00:40:19 | |
| perpendicular to the tracks almost. | 00:40:25 | |
| Would be shorter, but yeah. | 00:40:32 | |
| Uh, one more thing to add. I think it's important, umm, the alternative plan here used to be Max plan in some form or another, uh, | 00:40:35 | |
| through the time where, umm. | 00:40:40 | |
| Mac did show, umm, this road kind of cutting through this property area and up kind of like this. So we're, we're kind of thinking | 00:40:46 | |
| their old idea and morphine as a fit the properties better in a way. And so, as I discussed before, just not recently. So OK, umm, | 00:40:55 | |
| I'll give by two cents as well. I, I love it. I love the the alternative plan. | 00:41:04 | |
| Again, go through the industrial district it would provide. | 00:41:13 | |
| Better check access. To be honest, it would not. | 00:41:18 | |
| Negatively impact our economic growth as far as people coming in to vineyards, give them better access and they would probably | 00:41:23 | |
| actually want to be here because they didn't have to cross it. | 00:41:29 | |
| A highway to get to what should be a really cool beach. But so, uh yeah, you have my personal support and hopefully we can get you | 00:41:36 | |
| down on board too, yeah. | 00:41:42 | |
| OK. Any other questions or questions comments? | 00:41:51 | |
| Mm-hmm. I got your grip. | 00:41:55 | |
| Umm. | 00:42:27 | |
| Is there any more questions on on that? | 00:42:28 | |
| Great. Thank you. Thank you, Thank you. | 00:42:32 | |
| OK. | 00:42:38 | |
| Uh, we'll go ahead and move on to add a 5.2 the Vineyard beach improvement update. | 00:42:39 | |
| Yeah, looks like it's Anthony presenting for us. I'll do a quick intro for Anthony. Haven't he's done a normal job. He's kind of | 00:42:47 | |
| up on the staff side has been a lead on our waterfront project. Umm, this relates to the TRCC grant that, uh, we were umm awarded. | 00:42:54 | |
| Uh, we're lucky enough to, to get a 24 month extension to help us, umm, get kind of the, umm, the engineering and de and design | 00:43:02 | |
| details and in place So the help provide the presentation tonight. | 00:43:09 | |
| Umm, and in two weeks we'll have the official site plan because we, we already approved the master plan, but this will be more of | 00:43:17 | |
| a specific site plan for the the vine or B chairs. You have the master plan that's 3.4 miles and then this is that that. So | 00:43:23 | |
| anyway, without further ado, go ahead and. | 00:43:29 | |
| Hi. | 00:43:39 | |
| So uh, again, my name is Anthony and I will be presenting this, umm, the progress so far with Vinod Beach improvement. | 00:43:41 | |
| So in this presentation, I will be going through the current conditions, just, umm, you know, also giving you that update and just | 00:43:51 | |
| a little bit of the economic analysis that we've done throughout the process. Umm, so this shows the current condition as you can | 00:43:57 | |
| see in the video connector is out there. You know, we have block 5, which, uh, is in the works, block five of the promenade, which | 00:44:03 | |
| is in the works of umm, starting construction soon this year. Umm, the, you got, you know, great as well is going to be starting | 00:44:08 | |
| construction. | 00:44:14 | |
| Going over, uh, vineyard connector, uh, in the spot where I have it labeled and umm. | 00:44:20 | |
| We have the site in its best condition right now. | 00:44:27 | |
| So on the left of this UMM slide you can see the current condition of the Vineyard beach, which is pretty much. | 00:44:34 | |
| Not much to talk about, You know, it's UH-15 for Hill, umm, that you have to go down to access the beach and it's not a lot to it. | 00:44:44 | |
| So, umm, in terms of progress, we have completed a master plan which has been approved for the entire waterfront area. We have | 00:44:51 | |
| also, uh, completed a wet a wetland. | 00:44:58 | |
| Umm, the radiation umm, for the area, you know which flights it into the umm, appliances lowland. Uh, we have umm, completed a | 00:45:05 | |
| phase one design process and uh, we have also been interacting with some uh, local, local contractors to have some quo quotes on | 00:45:13 | |
| uh, what we intend to have implemented in the area and we have also. | 00:45:22 | |
| UMM submitted a general plan to UMM FF. | 00:45:30 | |
| SL and it's still in progress. We're in the process of working through to get a permit to be able to general permit to be able to | 00:45:35 | |
| get, uh, going on that, uh, land. We have ongoing discussions about the aquatic engineering on the lower side of the UMM of the | 00:45:42 | |
| plan, which is more to the West close to the water. | 00:45:50 | |
| And we're anticipating starting, umm, you know, starting to move right around and construction late spring of this year. | 00:45:58 | |
| Alright, so this umm, slide here is pretty much showing the true connection between our park and what umm, Utah City is about to | 00:46:08 | |
| uh, put together the promenade and how it also connects to our Vineyard station. So it's gonna be a boardwalk retail very close to | 00:46:15 | |
| the. | 00:46:22 | |
| Umm, Vineyard Beach, umm, we're going to have the beach connect seamlessly into, uh, Promenade Block 6, umm, which is going to | 00:46:30 | |
| make it umm, feel like it's been part of the plan ever since we have Bronson here, we've been working together with the Utah City, | 00:46:37 | |
| uh, Bronson is a Utah City group and umm, we've been working together to make sure that our plans, uh, you know, connect | 00:46:45 | |
| seamlessly with what they also have planned and umm. | 00:46:52 | |
| On here this is still work in progress, but eventually what's gonna happen if you look at this slide is we're gonna have a green | 00:47:01 | |
| loop which connects from the Vineyard beach area goes through the, uh, promenade, right all the way to the east side of Vineyard | 00:47:08 | |
| was gonna be a park that's gonna loop back into umm, uh, Vineyard beach on uh, 1200 N so this is still work in progress and but | 00:47:15 | |
| that's the intention for the future, uh, to have a very nice serene. | 00:47:22 | |
| Loop corridor where people can run, walk and have an exciting, exciting moment, uh, throughout the downtown of our city. | 00:47:30 | |
| So this would give you this a short video. | 00:47:41 | |
| To give you an idea of how. | 00:47:46 | |
| It will be connected. | 00:47:48 | |
| Umm, so right from the the lake, uh, the, the Lake Park is going to just, you know, as you can TE tell, it's just flying through | 00:47:51 | |
| the promenade park through the various blocks and it's going to lead you all the way to that retail center. That's umm that you, | 00:47:58 | |
| you know, gives you a great connection to a lot of restaurants that you see around the ground floor retail. A lot of you know, | 00:48:05 | |
| vibrant interactions down in this space. | 00:48:12 | |
| So, umm, on this slide you see an overall, uh, plan that has been put together for the entire, uh, beach area is going to be | 00:48:21 | |
| expanded more than it is right now. | 00:48:26 | |
| So. | 00:48:38 | |
| This video gives you a quick overview about of what we plan to do. We have the Lake Rd. being showing up there and as I mentioned | 00:48:40 | |
| earlier, we have the project being divided into an outline scope and a low land scope. The low land is right below the wetland | 00:48:48 | |
| delineation line. And we have, uh, where we have plans to have a multi use trail and umm, you know, we're gonna have various paths | 00:48:55 | |
| that connect various parts of the park over to the beach pedestrian. Uh. | 00:49:02 | |
| Well, we're gonna have, uh, various, uh, pavilions and, umm, these pavilion buildings are going to have, umm, you know, restrooms | 00:49:10 | |
| and just spaces where people can hang out and have parties and all kinds of, uh, you know, gatherings as well as, uh, storage for | 00:49:18 | |
| equipment to maintain the area. We're also, uh, trying to have a dog park, you know, play area for kids. And this space is | 00:49:25 | |
| generally going to be one that could be used all year round. | 00:49:32 | |
| One that we could, you know, probably say, hey, we have a park that's connected to a much bigger park, you know, that leads you | 00:49:40 | |
| all the way to the umm, you know, umm, the venue station and many other parts, uh, of the downtown area and the city eventually. | 00:49:48 | |
| We're gonna have peers, umm, that, uh, connect that allow people to have some sort of interaction with the water without | 00:49:58 | |
| necessarily, uh, getting themselves wet as well. So all these are things we have in the, in the plan and the whole idea is to make | 00:50:06 | |
| it as, umm, walkable and, uh, bike friendly for every user in the city and obviously those as well. | 00:50:14 | |
| So this shows us some renderings to give you a good idea of how. | 00:50:25 | |
| Umm, things are gonna look, you know, I can tell you it's gonna look way premium in person. You know when it happens. Umm, that is | 00:50:29 | |
| a rendering of umm, you know, the kids play area. | 00:50:35 | |
| And just to talk a little bit about the Lake Rd. across sections, uh, I have. | 00:50:42 | |
| These three sections that I want to share just to give you an idea of the character of how the Lake Rd. is going to be in the | 00:50:50 | |
| future, because that's gonna be demolished and rebuilt. Umm, as we develop all this, this concept, this side is more to the north | 00:50:54 | |
| side, which will have umm. | 00:50:59 | |
| The right away having about, you know, just one, uh, parking on the side, you know, we'll still have that 15 foot sidewalk and two | 00:51:05 | |
| cars going umm, you know, uh, North and South with just 10 foot, umm, right away for the cars. And that's how it's gonna look | 00:51:11 | |
| pretty much. | 00:51:17 | |
| The middle section of the UMM Lake Rd. that I showed earlier is going to have parking on both sides which will again slow down | 00:51:25 | |
| traffic, make it safer for people that are trying to even cross to the other side of the lake. UMM. Make it a more UMM you know? | 00:51:34 | |
| I'm more, I'm more human skill friendly style, uh, Rd. where you know residents can enjoy and feel safe while in the park and | 00:51:46 | |
| trying to cross the other parts of it. | 00:51:51 | |
| As well, so it would have that kind of scale. | 00:51:57 | |
| Umm, and on the 3rd part, which connects this area that connects to uh, Promenade, uh, block 6, umm, this one you can tell has no | 00:52:02 | |
| curb, uh, or any kind of left to it. It, it's been designed in a way that would allow people to seamlessly cross from block 6 all | 00:52:09 | |
| to the, uh, the park, You know, the Super ADA accessible it. It's actually going to be like one of the safest insert umm, | 00:52:17 | |
| intersections that you're gonna have. | 00:52:24 | |
| City because it's gonna, you know, have a slower Rd. We still have parking on the side of the road or have trails on both sides. | 00:52:31 | |
| This is going to be one that makes it, umm, you know, a good one to, to wanna have. So as I mentioned earlier, the the, the plan | 00:52:40 | |
| is to have it's been divided. The whole project is divided into two the upland area and the lowland area. | 00:52:48 | |
| So we are get, you know, working towards getting started on phase one and the phase one has been divided into two would have, you | 00:52:59 | |
| know, the first part, once we have the general permit, uh, given to us, would have, umm, you know, umm, our contractors start to | 00:53:05 | |
| grade the land, just remove all the vegetation. You know, there's certain growth and things that we're keeping, but it's just | 00:53:12 | |
| gonna be a lot of mass grade in and. | 00:53:18 | |
| Making sure that things are in a, in, in a place where we can start, uh, construction. And in the same way, you know? | 00:53:25 | |
| Phase 1B would have a lot of the backbone utilities and umm, you know, excavation ongoing would demolish the Lake Rd. There's | 00:53:32 | |
| going to be, at this point, there's gonna be a temporary umm, umm, trail, umm, you know, put in place to allow people to still, | 00:53:41 | |
| umm, you know, commute from the north to the South of uh, the lakefront and wild construction is ongoing. | 00:53:49 | |
| And it's been planned, you know, we've discussed this, to have it on the north side of UMM. | 00:53:59 | |
| The the the Lake Rd. where you have those broken lines. I don't know if you can see that, uh here. | 00:54:05 | |
| That's whether. | 00:54:11 | |
| Simply, UMM, Charles is going to be located. | 00:54:13 | |
| Umm, we're going on phase two to develop, umm, the actual park structure, put it in a retaining wall, you know, bringing in | 00:54:18 | |
| lighting and many of our amenities, you know, umm, irrigation for the turf and, you know, making sure we have, you know, you know, | 00:54:25 | |
| preparations done for umm, the various building funding to go in and all these other phases following phase one are contingent on | 00:54:32 | |
| the previous phases being completed. | 00:54:38 | |
| And. | 00:54:46 | |
| By the time we get to phase four, you know, once we start building or once we start phase one, umm, just so you know, we're still | 00:54:47 | |
| gonna be working through getting all the permits and, umm, things that we need to allow us to get going on the wetland area | 00:54:55 | |
| because that's a lot more permit process intensive. So, umm, we would get the, our plan going and make sure it's usable for the | 00:55:02 | |
| general public and umm, you know, this is gonna be work in progress. | 00:55:10 | |
| So, umm. | 00:55:19 | |
| As we all know, it's the 15th soil hill currently to get to Vineyard Beach. Beautiful. I spend a lot of time there. Umm, And this | 00:55:21 | |
| is some data that we've got over time. In 2021, we had about 23,000 people visit and this data has been gathered, umm, pretty much | 00:55:31 | |
| shows that the average, uh, time people spend there is about 55 minutes. So in 2021 we had about 20-3 people, uh, 23,000. | 00:55:40 | |
| Visit UMM. | 00:55:49 | |
| You know, 2022, we had about 27,000 visits and you know, in 2023 we're getting close to 30,000 and there's still nothing there. | 00:55:51 | |
| It's just empty beach where you can just go pretty much make nothing. So, umm, if we're able to make this happen, we're gonna have | 00:55:59 | |
| a lot more trips over, a lot more people spending time there, a lot more people wanting to, you know, enjoy our downtown and spend | 00:56:06 | |
| more money in our city and make it, you know. | 00:56:14 | |
| Uh, better fraud development as well. | 00:56:22 | |
| So. | 00:56:26 | |
| Umm overtime a lot of people argue and I'm saying that capital, which is true in my opinion, capital follows people, People follow | 00:56:29 | |
| place and place needs investment to make everything tied together and make everything happen. Umm the Utah City folks are | 00:56:37 | |
| investing on, you know, have time for investing heavily into this area. | 00:56:44 | |
| And it's going, it's definitely going to attract a lot of people into, uh, downtown area. Huntsman, uh, Cancer Institute is, umm, | 00:56:52 | |
| going to be. | 00:56:58 | |
| In our city, and you know, on the map there, you can tell where they're going to be located. Umm, that area is going to, uh, our | 00:57:03 | |
| developers, Utah City Development Council that is going to bring up to about 900 umm, hotel rooms that would also have umm, some | 00:57:10 | |
| extended stay rooms that would help cater for those that umm, visit the Huntsman and also people that just wanna visit Vineyard | 00:57:18 | |
| and have a great time, enjoy our beaches and parks and all that Vineyard in Utah. | 00:57:25 | |
| Offer. | 00:57:33 | |
| So these are just examples of how umm, trade in good parts have benefited cities and properties. Uh, in a few places either, like | 00:57:36 | |
| for example, from Dallas, uh, the client Warren Park, you know, doubled, umm, property values when the park was, you know, put in | 00:57:44 | |
| place. Umm, there's one in Houston as well. | 00:57:52 | |
| That has very similar, umm, effect on the. | 00:58:00 | |
| Similar positive effect on the property values of, you know the area where the park was developed. Same way in Oklahoma City. | 00:58:05 | |
| Parks bring a lot of value to our cities and I can't wait to have this hopefully built in our city. I can talk about this all | 00:58:12 | |
| night long, but I'll let this video. | 00:58:19 | |
| Play well. Umm, you ask some questions if you have, you know any that you wanna bring to the table for us to take note of. | 00:58:27 | |
| Got a couple of questions. Uh, a lot of this hinges on being able to dredge or clean up that, uh, lakefront area. Uh, what kind of | 00:58:40 | |
| feedback have we gotten so far from the state and being able to do that? | 00:58:46 | |
| So we haven't, we haven't gone so much into detail of, you know, into that dragon part of things. We're working currently into | 00:58:54 | |
| the, uh, you know, getting permits for that plan. We have set the intention, but currently I, I don't have enough data to share. | 00:59:01 | |
| Yeah. So what we would do that now I see like the yellow area that you had just shown that that's the upland area outside of the | 00:59:08 | |
| wetland. So that's what we would focus on for like the, the actual designing for construction documents. | 00:59:15 | |
| Umm, and uh, and so we, we wouldn't be touching the, the wetlands right now. There's quite an involved process. So it requires the | 00:59:23 | |
| general permit through the FFSL. That's a, umm, forcing fire. And then we would need to get the Army Corps permit. There's gonna | 00:59:29 | |
| be most likely a wildlife for habitat, umm, study that we'll need to do because you do have the June soccer and there, there's | 00:59:35 | |
| some other species that we would need to make sure we're not disturbing habitat. So it's quite an involved process with when | 00:59:41 | |
| you're. | 00:59:47 | |
| Stuff out in the out in the water. So the idea is that as we construct and build out phase one, we would then, umm, start working | 00:59:53 | |
| on those permits and umm, like the, umm, uh, the for technical reports that, that we would need to submit for, for the wetlands, | 01:00:00 | |
| umm, and most likely we would be in a, in a spot where we would need to offset sweat lens. So anything that gets touched, you have | 01:00:08 | |
| to sometimes I don't know the exact ratio, but. | 01:00:15 | |
| If you, you know, impact 2 acres, you might have to umm restore 6 acres or 10 acres. So I know the Utah Lake Authority umm has | 01:00:23 | |
| been working to umm to purchase a white land bank that umm city projects Li like this or, you know, around the link would be able | 01:00:32 | |
| to umm to to to pay into and to offset umm the the the well and stuff. So anyway, there's gonna be quite a big pro process. | 01:00:41 | |
| So tho those pairs are really cool, those are concepts umm. But the idea is kinda framing in the Vineyard beach and extending it. | 01:00:51 | |
| If you remember the bigger beach right now with the length is about 300 feet. | 01:00:56 | |
| This would make it 1800 feet. So a very umm lo long contiguous beach area, which is great because it provides a a big area for | 01:01:02 | |
| people to spread out. If you've been a bike Bartholomew Park and and Springville, it's really nice. We go on a Saturday when you | 01:01:08 | |
| have good weather. It's umm, you know, I think that is like it's like 2 two acres of surface area. Beach is small and it's packed. | 01:01:14 | |
| It's just you're crammed together with a bunch of people. So that's that's and that was what we were through the matlastic plants | 01:01:20 | |
| of water, the water from. | 01:01:26 | |
| Uh, people wanted, umm, a lot of beach areas, they, they wanted to be piled up on each other. So anyway, yeah, I mean, you take | 01:01:32 | |
| any beach in Manila beach or any lake or pond or something and it gets packed in the summer. So I think that this absolutely will | 01:01:39 | |
| get packed if it's done right. I is there any worry that we might not be able to get those permits? Umm, I, I, I think we're | 01:01:47 | |
| looking really well on the, on the, on the general, umm, permit for, for the uplands. That's still. | 01:01:54 | |
| So the idea is that you, we, we would want the beach area to have enough depth that people can actually feel like they're at a | 01:02:30 | |
| beach, they can swim. Umm, And so there's, yeah, there, there's quite a bit of, it's a really exciting umm, project and there's a | 01:02:35 | |
| lot of support from the county, umm. | 01:02:40 | |
| And on a state level, umm, it's just, you know, getting kind of the FSFL on arm core, uh, fo folks. Umm, yeah, umm, they're | 01:02:46 | |
| agreeing with us. Provide us permit. Yeah, umm, yeah, for sure. And then, uh, the only other thing I'd like to, I guess see on the | 01:02:53 | |
| plans is, uh, more things for like teenagers and young adults people thinks for them to do, like if there's a way to jump into the | 01:03:00 | |
| water from. | 01:03:07 | |
| A5 foot dock or something, Just something like that, like. | 01:03:15 | |
| Uh, the city, it needs more things for teenagers and young adults because we have playgrounds, we have stuff for people doing | 01:03:19 | |
| sports and stuff that you got nothing for some kid that's 15 by himself that has nothing to do except play video games at home. | 01:03:25 | |
| Like we need more stuff like that. And I'd love to see that implemented in this plan here. Yeah. And we talked before when we did | 01:03:32 | |
| the master plan, there was a lot of interest in seeing. | 01:03:39 | |
| Umm, more of like a, a seaside style, umm, or like a lakeside style, uh, skate park. | 01:03:46 | |
| We do have where, where the road vans Lake Rd. We do have that opportunity. It's about 2 1/2 to 3 acres of higher park space kind | 01:03:53 | |
| of on the, the east side. And so that, that's an area that we would be able to program. We're gonna have the umm, the boardwalk, | 01:03:59 | |
| retail, restaurants and stuff. There's the idea you'll go there for the restaurant, the atmosphere, then they go to the park and | 01:04:05 | |
| then they're able to people watch and they have a great view down on the beach. But that, that area, umm, would be what you can | 01:04:11 | |
| see, right? Kind of. | 01:04:16 | |
| Where it says link Road, Lakeview Rd. that area is a good spot to program, but absolutely. So what, umm, essentially what next | 01:04:23 | |
| week will be or the next meeting will be, will be at a site plan. It'll still be fairly conceptual, uh, because what we're gonna | 01:04:30 | |
| be using the grant for, umm, is we have 24 months to, to utilize the funds, about $39.00. But even with that, a lot of, it's gonna | 01:04:38 | |
| be grading some of the retaining walls and then putting in the trails. We, we do wanna try to get a lot of those. | 01:04:45 | |
| Thanks. OK, sounds good. | 01:05:23 | |
| We have a lot of vigilantes, Anita. | 01:05:25 | |
| So the my question is then, so I just make your name please. David Blay, you have the stand wall you're going to dredge on the | 01:05:32 | |
| inside of that between this and while the shore and keep that part deep and then put that on the outside that you look the link to | 01:05:37 | |
| a thing where it's going to be correct. Yeah, Yeah, that's exactly right. OK, I have a question. | 01:05:43 | |
| If you talk to anybody on Provost City, that's like what, nine years ago? They drive me or Provo Harbor, right? And then filled | 01:05:50 | |
| back in within like a year and a half. | 01:05:55 | |
| Yeah, it's just, it's probably so it's the same. It's the same thing with, uh, the Linden Marina too. They, they dredge it every | 01:06:03 | |
| like eight years or something. Umm, but there's has like an access. And from what I understand if we're doing some kind of sand | 01:06:09 | |
| saver thing with the engineer was talking about is it would enclose, not fully enclosed, but it would enclose the whole thing and | 01:06:15 | |
| then the wall would have like a foot or two of water above the wall. | 01:06:22 | |
| Yeah, but they, they enclosed that whole thing. Oh. | 01:06:30 | |
| The minor dredging there every two years or so, Umm. And so I, I, I, I think it's one of those things that if you just let us say | 01:07:05 | |
| you don't do much with that, then it's, it's most likely gonna fill in, but that will at least provide you kinda it, it gives you | 01:07:11 | |
| uh, like, like some time that you can utilize that and then you're gonna have to maintain it, yeah. | 01:07:18 | |
| And just just to accident umm, we've done a little bit of umm, asking around, especially with umm, Saratoga Springs. And you know, | 01:07:26 | |
| they have some sort of a boat lunch place and they have to go through a lot of umm, permanent processes to even get that umm. And | 01:07:35 | |
| that was over close to five years to get all the permits they needed to start dredging the area, and they still do to maintain it. | 01:07:43 | |
| So it's, it's a process and, uh, we're willing to go through whatever it takes to get it done, done right. | 01:07:52 | |
| On stuff where, you know, yeah, you know, and, and it's just that he has a spot where you can rent A volleyball or something. I | 01:08:29 | |
| mean, I think there's ways that we could program the beach areas, maybe an area that's just more peaceful. It's where families can | 01:08:35 | |
| picnic and whatnot. Varies with more activity, you know, from beach type sports and somewhere you can jump off into the water. | 01:08:41 | |
| Yeah. OK. You got those. Appears pretty high. | 01:08:46 | |
| Most likely we'll have for a liability reason, no diving, but I mean, yeah. | 01:08:54 | |
| Direct gravity is gonna do it. Let's not do that. | 01:08:59 | |
| Yeah. Thanks, Anthony. That thing looks great. I'm excited to see the plans go through more. | 01:09:04 | |
| You too. | 01:09:18 | |
| OK umm, does anybody else have questions and comments or anything for staff? | 01:09:20 | |
| No, OK, I think it does. | 01:09:28 | |
| Thanks David. Umm, I wanted to know if there's any, any other plan for uh, mitigation of mid flies and mosquitoes. I mean, it's | 01:09:35 | |
| just been a continual problem down there and so. | 01:09:40 | |
| In order to make it usable, we'll need to have some kind of control with that. So is that part of the plan? | 01:09:46 | |
| All right. | 01:09:57 | |
| Yes, Mr. He's asking about midge slides and mosquitoes. What kind of plan we have to mitigate that? | 01:09:59 | |
| Oh, I, umm, I think we, we have that in mind to umm, make plans to, you know, help us mitigate that as we get closer to | 01:10:04 | |
| implementing the actual, uh, park. So there are there are ideas to get that done. I mean, get some mitigation ways to make it, you | 01:10:13 | |
| know, pleasant enough to spend time there. Currently there, there isn't anything that we have. | 01:10:22 | |
| Solid to share with the public, but it's in the pipeline for as things that needs to be. | 01:10:31 | |
| Yeah, OK. I think that just even deepening the water levels right there, it's gonna help medicate the the pest issues because just | 01:10:38 | |
| the they, they. | 01:10:43 | |
| Breathe in Stillwater, right? Yeah. So Stillwater. | 01:10:50 | |
| Isolate that part of the water so movement there so that that may add to it. Suggesting. I would suggest that you involve an | 01:10:57 | |
| entomologist and other specialists early in the plans. They help you with some natural ways to do that. | 01:11:05 | |
| Habitat umm and then also deep deepening in the water. But yeah you're absolutely right. We we would need to to talk with those | 01:11:44 | |
| those experts and I believe that Utah Lake authority is is kind of a group lake wide that that that is trying trying to take up a | 01:11:51 | |
| lot of that on umm and so partnering with them as much as we can. I think this is gonna help yeah and I can definitely I remember | 01:11:58 | |
| my first move to moved here and I was riding my bike in the lake and I saw this like brown like tornadoes. What is that I. | 01:12:05 | |
| Like bugs in my, up my nose and stuff. So I definitely can, uh, alter your experience and we wanna make sure we account for that | 01:12:13 | |
| so. | 01:12:16 | |
| Yeah, yeah. Come on up there. | 01:12:23 | |
| OK, I'm sorry Evans and your grasping it. | 01:12:29 | |
| I have a question about Mother Nature. I wrote down to the lake today and Ave. Beach and the picnic table is almost in the water. | 01:12:33 | |
| I'm thinking, OK, it's going to need to be on pontoons or what's gonna happen? We can't control another nature as far as the | 01:12:40 | |
| amount of water, you know, we really have a lot this year and the snow hasn't even melted. It's just gonna that's gonna be a hard | 01:12:47 | |
| a hard thing to take care of. And I. | 01:12:54 | |
| They talked about on the slides that, you know, Huntsman's coming here because. | 01:13:03 | |
| They like nature with all this building along here, those, those people who are coming here for, for treatment, they think want | 01:13:08 | |
| nature. And if they see all this going on, that's not gonna be relaxing and healing to them. So that's something we might need to | 01:13:15 | |
| consider because Huntsman is making a major investment and they're expecting nature. Does that make sense? Yeah. We, we reviewed, | 01:13:23 | |
| umm, the, the, the waterfront plans with them and they, they absolutely love them And, and kind of. | 01:13:30 | |
| We talked about was, you know, how we have this, it's not just that big swath of land anymore. We sort of broke it up so we can | 01:13:38 | |
| program it differently. Umm, and then on that N pier, there's sort of a, another beach area. I don't know if you're able to pull | 01:13:44 | |
| that up, Anthony, but uh, umm, there's, there's kind of a more, uh, secluded type type little beach area. And I think that that | 01:13:50 | |
| could be a really nice kind of peaceful area with a lot of front master plan And I, I don't, I don't remember if, if you were a | 01:13:55 | |
| part of that back in. | 01:14:01 | |
| On the 2020 where I put my sticking out, yeah, there you go do the sticking out. So the idea was like the South end of the of the | 01:14:07 | |
| city would be the kind of the more like really quiet, peaceful and as you get further to the north, there's more entertainment and | 01:14:14 | |
| that type of uses. OK, that's how it was designed. But but with this type of such type of plan, so you can see you have. | 01:14:21 | |
| It, it kind of segments, umm, areas of the beach where you could have, umm, you know, places that are a little bit more quiet. So | 01:14:28 | |
| I think it's, it's a lot of that is in how we program it. Umm, but they, they, they absolutely loved the, the waterfront. That, | 01:14:34 | |
| that was a big reason why they wanted to come with this plan. OK. And then to where is the bike trail on this that I ride on now? | 01:14:41 | |
| Where is it? I mean, yeah, if you wanna show your own cursor. | 01:14:47 | |
| The bike trail, so it it's that white one right there. It's the white one, yeah. So that, that that'll be removed and it'll be | 01:14:54 | |
| replaced with a 15 foot wide. | 01:14:58 | |
| Concrete or asphalt, umm, I, it'll, it'll happen to me. Whatever the county requirements are, because the, they're, they're sort | 01:15:03 | |
| of the asphalt, they're, they're, they're gonna be the ones that do the maintenance on that. We'll maintain all the other trails, | 01:15:06 | |
| OK. | 01:15:10 | |
| And then you also mentioned access. | 01:15:15 | |
| What kind of vehicles are going to be going down on that beach? Uh, maintenance. So yeah, we, we have, umm, for the most part. I | 01:15:20 | |
| mean, I, I don't know if there's like a special party or someone wants to do an event, we, we might allow things for that. But | 01:15:27 | |
| definitely it's not gonna be like one of those beaches when you're driving, driving your Jeep, I understand, but it's gonna be | 01:15:35 | |
| like, you can bring your boat down or your wave runners down or, you know, I was just curious because it's vehicular, yeah. | 01:15:42 | |
| With with this area, the idea was to do more non motorized within the BA the the sand saver wall area, and so you can see that S | 01:15:49 | |
| pier. There's sort of another pier underneath, so the longer one umm and that actually goes down to the water area. You can see | 01:15:57 | |
| kind of out the T shape Umm, so that'll provide an area where people kind of can off log Umm umm, but they umm, but but there are | 01:16:04 | |
| ideas with like the lending arena that what we didn't necessarily want to compete with the. | 01:16:12 | |
| Linda Marina but I, I know there are, uh, there's been a, you know, some, some consideration of like does does that area get get | 01:16:20 | |
| get improved and, and add more, uh, ability to, to add more swamps and, and more access for, for motorized both OK Are people | 01:16:27 | |
| gonna be able to walk their kayaks down? Yeah, absolutely. Mm-hmm. And we even thought about on the road like so we're, we're | 01:16:34 | |
| building a parking umm of all up and down the road but trading areas where. | 01:16:41 | |
| You could do like drop off areas or just designated like a 5 minute parking where people can UN unload picnic baskets, kayaks, | 01:16:49 | |
| that kind of stuff. OK and. | 01:16:53 | |
| Those parking areas, they're all parallel. How many bucks are you planning for? Like the 69 feet and the 77 feet and they're real | 01:16:58 | |
| close. So we have, we have angled and, and parallel and then there's parking built into umm and into the umm, that's block six of | 01:17:05 | |
| the Utah City Promenade Park. And then umm, and then there's parking kind of in the downtown. So we provided like priority parking | 01:17:13 | |
| along the, the, the, the lake and that, that might be a good spot. | 01:17:20 | |
| Designate a lot of ADA closer but then but we we kind of do wanna try to encourage what we can people to park in the downtown | 01:17:28 | |
| downtown we're gonna invest in structures and still have them walk through so that that really does help from a sales standpoint | 01:17:34 | |
| as well. OK, so but the the number we could we can check on the number. I don't I don't I don't know if we have that is that right | 01:17:41 | |
| here So with that parking along that area are you gonna have time limits on that because I can see. | 01:17:47 | |
| People who live around the area using it as an overnight sure umm, yes MO most likely we're we're gonna have umm. | 01:17:54 | |
| Time timeline limits, we do have to be kind of careful because I, I, there's a lot of research that shows a lot of places in like | 01:18:05 | |
| 2 hours, but that's, that's not necessarily what you want when you're going to the beach and spend the day there. So maybe having | 01:18:10 | |
| some, some 4 hour and ability to extend your, your, your hours through an app or something like that. Umm, so we haven't | 01:18:15 | |
| necessarily thought through the programming of the Lake Rd. We do have a little bit. So that's something where we could, we could | 01:18:20 | |
| put some focus on that. | 01:18:25 | |
| All right. I think I've got answered my questions. Thank you. Thank you. | 01:18:32 | |
| OK. | 01:18:39 | |
| Doing good. Yeah. I have a question, please. Yeah. | 01:18:40 | |
| OK, go ahead. | 01:18:43 | |
| Quick question for staff. | 01:18:46 | |
| I'm wondering about the power lines, power poles are there. Well, what is the estimate to carry one of those? And are there any | 01:18:49 | |
| plans to do any of that? Yeah, we're, we're analyzing that right now. So it's not definitely not a for sure thing, but it is | 01:18:56 | |
| something that we are in a process with Rocky Mountain Power, umm, and we're working with a consultant to see what, what the cost | 01:19:04 | |
| would have been, what the process would be. That's another one that's kind of bigger. | 01:19:11 | |
| Because, you know, I. | 01:19:48 | |
| It it really does kind of take away from it when you hear the popping and the cracking. But still, even with the polls, I think | 01:19:49 | |
| it's gonna be a pretty nice environment. | 01:19:53 | |
| OK, all right, umm, we will move on to staff, Commission and committee reports. | 01:20:00 | |
| Do we have anything from Commission? | 01:20:10 | |
| OK, no, OK. So that's that. | 01:20:13 | |
| Umm, yeah, just a couple of things. Umm, I Utah IPA, we keep bringing that up. Umm, if, if you guys wanna go, I, I know some of | 01:20:16 | |
| you might not be able to, that's fine, but just let us know. We wanna, we wanna, uh, to do, we're gonna accommodate you and, and, | 01:20:22 | |
| uh, that'll be on the city, umm, as part of your training. So we definitely, umm, look like for that to Cedar City. Oh, I may | 01:20:27 | |
| yeah. | 01:20:32 | |
| Uh, so that, and, and that's, uh, it sounds like it's gonna be a really great one. That's, that's just a area that's surrounded by | 01:20:38 | |
| just beautiful Paris, like these fun things to do. Umm, I wanna con, you know, congratulate and give Anthony props. Anthony. He, | 01:20:45 | |
| he has been working his tail off for us. He recently was, was awarded $120,000, umm, for the tag grant through mag, uh, for the | 01:20:53 | |
| redesign of the Mill Rd. corridor. And it's not just. | 01:21:00 | |
| So quite be 400 N and kind of the surrounding area and it wouldn't be taking out travel lanes. I just wanna make that clear. I, I, | 01:21:08 | |
| umm, uh, but it, it would be making it safer for pedestrians and adding more bicycle infrastructure. We've done town halls last | 01:21:14 | |
| year in that neighborhood and a lot of those residents are like, yeah, our, our immediate development is nice, but if we wanna go | 01:21:20 | |
| anywhere, even walk into the megaplex, it's very scary. We're scared of our kids riding their bikes trying to get to school. It's | 01:21:26 | |
| very. | 01:21:32 | |
| Yeah, one of the people needs, yeah, one of the other day. And so, umm, and so making it the calmer, safer area with lots of | 01:21:38 | |
| crossings, umm, good bicycle infrastructure and trying to get umm, some sort of a crossing at $400.00 across the railroad either | 01:21:45 | |
| at grade or, or, or going, going over. Umm, but that's that, that's a pretty big demand. And that was actually in the | 01:21:52 | |
| transportation master plan. They didn't really highlight that, but, uh, definitely probably what we're looking at so and also. | 01:22:00 | |
| He umm, in addition to that. | 01:22:07 | |
| It's a, uh, we got funding for a way finding umm, signage master plan for developing good trail signage that we go throughout the | 01:22:09 | |
| city. Now this is for the planning effort, but what, when we get the plan in place and we start budgeting in our umm, CIP, umm, | 01:22:16 | |
| for, for science and we start implementing that. But yeah, really exciting project that we'll, we'll work with the high school | 01:22:23 | |
| advisor Commission on and the Planning Commission. And so most likely, uh, we'll start that umm, June, July kind of time frame. | 01:22:30 | |
| So our department. | 01:22:40 | |
| So yeah. | 01:22:44 | |
| So from engineering for the work, as you had the pleasure of walking down, slowing down the transportation master plan summary. | 01:22:55 | |
| We're also working on several other master plans, for example, the server master plan, the water master plan, uh, which is being | 01:23:01 | |
| done by. | 01:23:07 | |
| Uh, the same consultant that we find out we. | 01:23:15 | |
| Our uh, uh, scheduling to have, uh, another presentation to Planning Commission. | 01:23:18 | |
| To present the draft, uh, master plans through water and sewer master plan combined, uh, since they kind of go hand in hand point | 01:23:25 | |
| those hand must come out, uh, as we say, uh, but in different percentages. Umm, So, uh, we expect, uh, at the next, uh, Planning | 01:23:33 | |
| Commission to, to uh, have a presentation by hand for hours, uh, for that particularly, uh, and then. | 01:23:41 | |
| Uh, in addition to those two of us, to those two management plans, uh, we umm, awarded the stormwater master plan, uh, to, so | 01:23:50 | |
| we're gonna be implementing that. We're having kickoff meeting with tomorrow and tomorrow we'll have a kickoff meeting to that. | 01:23:59 | |
| Uh, and then, of course, uh, Planning Commission will have the pleasure of, uh, hearing the, uh, draft findings of the stormwater | 01:24:08 | |
| management plan at rated dates. So that's, uh, I know everyone there is waiting for that to happen, you know, as you receive right | 01:24:15 | |
| there. But, uh, the, the great thing about that is with all these master plans that were being presented and moving forward, that, | 01:24:23 | |
| uh, you know, the city is, uh, cheering itself, uh, for, uh, identify identifying, uh, the areas where, umm. | 01:24:30 | |
| Improvements in enlargements and so forth need to be focused on, of course, capital facilities plans as well as the most important | 01:24:39 | |
| way how we're funding those things being does impact fees, But in addition to those master plans, that's where moving forward as | 01:24:46 | |
| well as recessing our utility fees as well to make sure that not only can we, uh, pay for, to pay for this, uh, pay to build the | 01:24:53 | |
| improvements that we need, uh, for you because the development. | 01:25:00 | |
| Also, it's your never properly paying for, uh, the operations that make sense and relative properly. You know, umm, that doesn't | 01:25:08 | |
| mean he's always go up a diesel, you know, fees will be, uh, you know, either either they go up and go down or stay safe, stay the | 01:25:16 | |
| same. And that, uh, we're ensuring that the best quality of life is being provided to the residents on that so. | 01:25:24 | |
| And then we got some snow finally last last week, so. | 01:25:34 | |
| Uh, we're expecting hope, we're hoping for some more snow because no packet is about over. If I'm not mistaken, a hundred, 120 ish | 01:25:38 | |
| percent in Provo, uh, in Provo, UT basin, uh, has a higher risk. There's a higher snow water equivalency. So, uh, we measure snow | 01:25:45 | |
| in multiple ways things. So, uh, inches and then water, snow water equipment. Let's see. So there's a great deal of moisture out | 01:25:53 | |
| there And of course, when the. | 01:26:00 | |
| Comes out, we'll be prepared uh for public works to make sure we re respond as we were last year ready to respond. | 01:26:08 | |
| So that's the biggest thing I want to let you know. | 01:26:15 | |
| Thank you. | 01:26:21 | |
| I I mean, I'm personally. | 01:26:23 | |
| Glad to know we're ready. I'd like to not be flooded. OK? Umm, in that case. Oh, we do have that. The meeting tomorrow morning. | 01:26:25 | |
| Is that happening? The uh, what's it called? | 01:26:37 | |
| DRC. | 01:26:42 | |
| That's tomorrow. | 01:26:44 | |
| OK, I. | 01:26:47 | |
| UMM was informed that I'm taking a new position at work so I now have no time in the day. I'm wondering if I have commissions | 01:26:50 | |
| volunteers at this meeting for me. | 01:26:55 | |
| You got it. Thank you, Grace. And I mean feel free to take turns amongst you and get the experience as you have time. | 01:27:02 | |
| Because it's, I mean, I mean it's essentially what we used to do here, which is approving the plants that they've just taken it to | 01:27:10 | |
| a different setting. | 01:27:15 | |
| Very cool, I really appreciate that. Umm. And with that I looks like meeting is adjourned. | 01:27:22 | |
| Have a great night everybody. | 01:27:28 | |
| Where is that house? | 01:27:35 | |
| Uh, here. | 01:27:37 | |
| Yeah, but. | 01:27:41 | |
| I used to combine it. | 01:27:47 | |
| So you need to combine it here. No, it's just OK. | 01:27:50 | |
| Yeah. | 01:27:58 | |
| I wasn't invited last year. | 01:28:21 |