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Call to Order/Invocation/Inspirational Thought/Pledge of Allegiance Chair Tay Gudmundson lead the meeting in the Pledge of Allegiance at01pm. Public Comments | |
Daria Evans brought up concerns with sand volleyball courts and feral animals. Community Development Director Morgan Brim referenced Brian, a connection, he could set her up with that and assured her that there would be maintenance. Business Items 1 Vineyard Beach Park Improvement Site Plan | |
Planner Anthony Fletcher presented the site plan for the Vineyard Beach Park. He recognized the previous introduction and presented the project on a map. He provided visual aids to give insight to the project as well as the site plan for the Vineyard Beach Park Improvement Site plan. Other related projects and areas were discussed as well including the Green Loop. The amenities and safety measures included in this project were introduced. Planner Fletcher discussed the timeline of this project: Phase One A represented to removal and site preparation hoped to start late this spring. Phase One B is intended to demolition and preparation for construction. Phase Two was introduced to be for installation of foundational components and site structures. He noted that the lake road would hopefully be completed by Phase Three. And Phase Four and Five are represented on the Wetland scope which is contingent on the first three phases. These include the amenities for the beach and water. He presented a video for the beach site. Planner Fletcher recommended a site plan approval. | |
Mr. Brim commented that this approves the update plan and is more realistic than the plans previously informed. He shared that the army corps, permitting, wetland analysis, and habitat restoration plan would be included in this process. It will take longer. Mr. Brim noted that this approval would allow us to degrade and get the trail in place. The planning department will be coming back for a more detailed site plan, but this will allow the city to move forward with the larger items. | |
Commissioner Christopher Bramwell asked if there are considerations for separate traffic types of the trail users. | |
Mr. Brim responded in saying the public noted that they would appreciate a wider path. He included that the path with be ft and there would be dual-direction bike lanes and aft running lane. There will be parallel trails to spread out the traffic. Safety is considered in the design. | |
Commissioner Bramwell commented that he feels that this could be a very unique experience for users and wanted to know about the landscaping. | |
Bronson Tatton, a developer with Flagborough noted that he is selecting the trees that are desired in the city. He addressed that they do not have a current selection but will narrow it down over time. | |
Mr. Brim added that the intention is for seasonal landscaping to help people get out and have great views to draw people in. Mr. Tatton also noted that there will be fire pits as well. | |
Commissioner Graden Ostler asked when the water will be blue. Mr. Brim responded in saying that part of the plan will include a sand saver wall or some kind of technology that will provide opportunity to dredge out and make it more user friendly. He mentioned that the planners may test a smaller portion before doing the whole capital project. | |
Resident Jacob Wood asked about the rebuild of the lakefront road and if the planners except people to take that road. Mr. Brim noted that this lake road will provide really good regional connection. He discusses some of these connections with existing roads. | |
Chair Gudmundson commented that she felt it refreshing to see consistent progress on this process. | |
MOTION: COMMISSIONER CHRISTOPHER BRAMWELL MOTIONED TO APPROVE THE SITE PLAN AT26pm. COMMISSIONER GRADEN OSTLER SECONDED THE MOTION. ROLL WENT AS FOLLOWS: CHAIR GUDMUNDSON AND COMMISSIONERS OSTLER AND BRAMWELL. Staff, Commission, and Committee Reports | |
Mr. Brim gave an update about the Mill Road Grant. He shared the motive is to make it safer. Traffic lanes will not be removed, just new infrastructure for other modes of transportation and slowing the roads down to make it safer. Concepts will be put together. Resident Daria Evens asked about how much the grant was for. Planner Fletcher responded in saying $120,000. Adjournment | |
The meeting was adjourned at30pm. Minutes Approved On: 21/2024 Certified Correct By: Madison Reed, Planner Technician |
All this meeting welcome tonight to our venue to be Planning Commission. Umm, I just have to ask somebody else to do it. So I will | 00:00:01 | |
lead us any questions to lead us. | 00:00:06 | |
I have pleasure using the product of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, | 00:00:15 | |
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. | 00:00:22 | |
Cool. Thanks, guys. All right, we will go ahead and open this up to #2 public comments. Do we have any comments from members of | 00:00:32 | |
the public in the room? Can I have anything for us? Darius, you don't have to. Again, not to put you on the spot. | 00:00:40 | |
Thank you. Thank you very much. Yeah. | 00:00:48 | |
That's the last time the Commission meeting you mentioned about the band volleyball coming on. I went home and started thinking | 00:00:53 | |
about it there. I had just one concern, feral cat and was a dog. | 00:01:00 | |
Yeah, and how you will take care of that, that's my concern. And sorry. We're happy to have umm, Brian, if you're OK with it. | 00:01:08 | |
Brian, umm, I'll call you. He, he, he can talk through. But umm, we, we have talked about some of that. If you remember Sunset | 00:01:16 | |
Beach Park, I don't know if you remember that discussion. There was supposed to be 4 volleyball. | 00:01:24 | |
Umm umm, courts in in in that as was like 2 or 4 Broads you would know, so probably no better but. | 00:01:33 | |
Our, uh, our last engineer was, was concerned about that. And so it was like an amazing thing. Umm, but I think with, with Brian, | 00:01:39 | |
he, he has it set up differently or his department's organized differently. So they think there, there would be maintenance. And | 00:01:46 | |
so hopefully we can catch some of that. But umm, I can call you and yeah, yeah. | 00:01:52 | |
Yeah, no problem. Thanks. | 00:02:00 | |
But that's, that's fair. We have a sandbox growing up. I have a sandbox growing up. Yeah, we didn't plan it after a while. OK, uh, | 00:02:02 | |
with that we will move on to #3 business items, umm, these two items, 3.1 Vineyard Beach park improvement site plan. | 00:02:13 | |
And whoever has that presentation, we are really excited about it. | 00:02:27 | |
Is it, is it you, Anthony? Yes, I'm just logging in right now. I have to search all my stuff. | 00:02:36 | |
So we have the landscape Architect online to join us in this meeting right now. So any questions we have, you will be available to | 00:02:44 | |
also answer. Can you hear us, Sam? | 00:02:52 | |
Hello Sam, can you hear us? | 00:03:07 | |
OK. | 00:03:16 | |
Alright, so I'll I'll go ahead and start then. | 00:03:21 | |
My name is Anthony Fletcher. I'm a planner here at the city, and today we'll be presenting the UM. | 00:03:27 | |
When a beach park improvement site plan. | 00:03:34 | |
So as you already know, we, uh, presented this at an earlier work session, the last one information meeting. So I'll just go | 00:03:37 | |
straight to the main, umm, site where we're having this, this, this shows you an idea of where it's gonna be. That's the area | 00:03:43 | |
marked for this, uh, Vineyard Beach Park. | 00:03:50 | |
Oh great. So this area here marked in red shows the area that we're that's going to be improved. The current park is just this | 00:04:03 | |
little corner here, but it's gonna be expanded all the way through. | 00:04:09 | |
Just to give you a, umm, an idea of how it looks currently, umm, that's a Lake Rd. That's the existing, umm, Vineyard beach right | 00:04:21 | |
now. We're looking to have it all improved to have this area covered. That's gonna be block six of the promenade and block 5. | 00:04:29 | |
That's the newly constructed umm, video connector. Just to arrange all of us. | 00:04:36 | |
That's another area from another angle, Lasvania Beach currently as it is. | 00:04:45 | |
In the Lake Rd. | 00:04:50 | |
And this is the overall site plan for the Vineyard beach improvement. | 00:04:53 | |
Umm, this shows just a quick connection of the park and how, umm, in our inter it interacts with other developments that are | 00:05:03 | |
ongoing. We have the promenade here and this shows how it connects seamlessly through the promenade and to, uh, vinyl station. | 00:05:11 | |
This is the first attempt to uh, create a city, umm, vineyard. | 00:05:18 | |
Umm Utah City Loop? Green Loop. | 00:05:28 | |
Oh, this just shows a quick connection on how it just interacts with, uh, the promenade and. | 00:05:33 | |
Heading over through to UMM. | 00:05:43 | |
The train station as well. | 00:05:46 | |
So the green loop I talked about this will be the Vineyard Beach area is gonna go through the umm, the promenade area, connect to | 00:05:50 | |
the east side and loop back into umm, the north from 1200 N and back into umm, the Vineyard beach so we can have a green loop | 00:05:56 | |
through the city. | 00:06:03 | |
So talking about the main plan. | 00:06:12 | |
Uh, we're going to have the Lake Rd. umm, demolished and rebuilt. The, the project is going to be divided into two main parts, | 00:06:17 | |
which is Appland and the low landscape, uh, scope. The upland scope is in is everything, you know, north side, I mean, on the east | 00:06:25 | |
side of umm, the wetland delineation is going to have a multi use trail. | 00:06:32 | |
With many paths for pedestrians, umm vehicle access for maintenance. | 00:06:41 | |
And umm, you know, umm. | 00:06:47 | |
ADA accessible, uh, sidewalks gonna have that, a couple of pavilions with restrooms up on there. Umm, we're gonna have a dog park | 00:06:51 | |
is gonna have umm, a kids play area and umm. | 00:06:59 | |
We're gonna have like, you know, a lot of uh, loan loan space and enhanced beach area with some site furniture as well. | 00:07:08 | |
This is a quick rendering of umm, the multi use trail and some parts of the you know, the park that were frozen. | 00:07:24 | |
And this year will show you up next is umm, across the Lake Rd. cross sections that I have here, the 1-2 and three. So we have one | 00:07:34 | |
being umm, the most northern part of it. | 00:07:41 | |
So this is shown Section 1, and this Lake Rd. is being designed with everyone in mind where we have, uh, trails on both sides. We | 00:07:50 | |
have umm, you know, median where we, you know, our pedestrians are going to be protected. | 00:07:58 | |
We're gonna have some street parking as well. | 00:08:07 | |
And that's how it's going to look. | 00:08:11 | |
The second section, which is more to the middle part of the Lake Rd. has a different configuration which just expands to add an | 00:08:17 | |
extra part uh parking. So you have parking on both sides. | 00:08:23 | |
And on to the satisfaction, which is much S you have head back into one parking on one side and which is going to be curbless. So | 00:08:33 | |
there's gonna be an, uh, an easy and seamless, uh, transition from the side of the park. Uh, that which connects to block 5, uh, I | 00:08:40 | |
mean block. | 00:08:47 | |
5-6 down to uh. | 00:08:55 | |
The the Vineyard beach area without really having to go through any umm curves. It just has a a different surface on this side | 00:08:59 | |
which will make it umm safer and also slow cars down for pedestrians crossing and all that. | 00:09:07 | |
So we have, umm, you know, the outline area, which was earlier shown, uh, being the side above the wetland delineation and below | 00:09:17 | |
is going to be the wetland area. | 00:09:23 | |
And in phasing out this plan, we are, you know, we have phases from phase one to five generally and we have umm, phase 1A being | 00:09:31 | |
pretty much, uh, removal of the regulation mass grading, just pretty much preparing the, the site and we're hoping to have this | 00:09:38 | |
started by late spring. | 00:09:46 | |
Umm, phase 1B, uh, still part of the phase. Phase will be demolition of, uh, Lake Rd. installation of back, uh, bone utilities, | 00:09:56 | |
curbs and gutters. That's pretty much preparing the site for, uh, the construction as well. Phase two will be, umm, installing fun | 00:10:05 | |
foundations, you know, installing the, the pathways from stairs. | 00:10:13 | |
And, umm. | 00:10:23 | |
Side side structure, retaining wall and the park buildings that we the pavilions and all that that we showed earlier. | 00:10:26 | |
The Lake Rd. would be completed, hopefully UMM by phase three. | 00:10:34 | |
And phase four and five would be umm, on the, on the umm, the wetland scope, which is going to be contingent on the completion of | 00:10:40 | |
uh, phase 123. | 00:10:46 | |
This will include Virgin of the Lake, you know, mass grading of the lake edge, the sand, silver wall, possibly the Piers, and | 00:10:54 | |
installation of the beach amenities. | 00:11:00 | |
So that's an overview of the site and this just shows a video of the entire, just a random video of the entire site. | 00:11:08 | |
Umm for the venue beach. | 00:11:18 | |
And staff is proposing that. | 00:11:23 | |
Umm, we have the site plan approved. | 00:11:27 | |
To help us continue with umm its implementation and construction. | 00:11:31 | |
I appreciate Anthony umm and just to kind of clarify to you, this approves kind of the updated overall plan. It's pretty | 00:11:38 | |
consistent with the SFKR plan that was approved in the master PLA, the original master plan. But if you remember that that plan | 00:11:46 | |
had up here that was like a quarter mile long. That was massive and I mean, it was beautiful, but it was it, you know, from a cost | 00:11:53 | |
standpoint, it was probably, uh, pretty far out. And so that this plan is a lot more realistic. | 00:12:00 | |
A, as far as like things that, that we can buy it off over the years, umm, the uplands, as Anthony talked about, those are things | 00:12:08 | |
that we'll be able to implement in the next, you know, umm, two to five years. Umm, And then at the same time, the plan is that we | 00:12:15 | |
do the Army Corps, umm, umm, per permitting, we do the umm, wetland analysis and most likely, umm, there would be some sort of, | 00:12:23 | |
umm, habitat restoration plan that we have to do. So there's a pretty big process for anything that's, that's in the wetlands. | 00:12:30 | |
How like umm, and then going through FFSL and the Army Corps. So there's, there's two big players that, that we would need to work | 00:12:38 | |
with. So, so the lake stuff's gonna take longer. Uh, still pretty exciting, but it's good that we get us a plan now. This is still | 00:12:44 | |
first pipeline. This is still fairly, this is a lot more detailed. We're at a schematic level of design. Umm what we wouldn't | 00:12:51 | |
anticipate though, is like the park on the, the, the children's park. | 00:12:57 | |
That you see kind of in the center, just umm, West of the Lake Rd. | 00:13:04 | |
That area, when, when, when that's ready, we would come through for an official site plan that'll have details of the restrooms | 00:13:09 | |
and stuff like that. The dog park would be the same thing. Umm, but approval of this, with what this allows us to do is to start | 00:13:16 | |
doing the grading and, and kind of those larger items that the grant will cover the TRCC grant that we received for $3,000,000 | 00:13:22 | |
Umm, so that'll allow us to start to grade, get the trail in place. | 00:13:29 | |
Umm, the road won't be through the ground, but the plan is to try to get the Lake Rd. | 00:13:36 | |
Umm, improved over the next, uh, year or so as well, but just wanted to to make that clarification that we'll be coming back for | 00:13:40 | |
more detailed site plan stuff. But this, this will always kind of pull the trigger, allowing the city to move forward with the | 00:13:47 | |
grading and some of some of those larger items for happy to answer any questions. | 00:13:54 | |
Looks great. I run on that trail. Yeah, all the time. | 00:14:07 | |
This is fantastic. Are are there considerations being made for the configuration of the trail separating bikes from from runners? | 00:14:16 | |
Umm, yeah. And, and correct me if I'm, if I'm wrong, but from when we did our, our master plan back in 2022, umm, the, the push | 00:14:30 | |
from the community was make that, make that a wider path because we're there, that's when we started seeing conflicts with, you | 00:14:37 | |
know, skateboarders and scooter people and kids on bikes and just runners. So. | 00:14:44 | |
The the trail I believe for most of it is gonna be 15 foot wet, which would allow us to divvy up that space most likely with the | 00:14:52 | |
biking we probably would do umm, you know, on North and South lane and then. | 00:14:59 | |
The, the running what would be 55 feet so that, that would provide a spot. The other cool thing. So this is the, the busiest part. | 00:15:06 | |
If you imagine everyone, umm, in the downtown, you know, coming down through the promenade, you have two promenades on either side | 00:15:12 | |
that kind of bookend this, this part of the lake. This is we, we imagine this is gonna be very, very busy. Umm, and so that's | 00:15:18 | |
important that we do have some separation there, but umm, there was definitely interest from the community that we extend that | 00:15:24 | |
same trail design. | 00:15:30 | |
But we do like that in the lake trail in that location because it is very visible. And that was another thing that we heard was | 00:16:06 | |
safety, you know, like, umm, a, a woman running at night or something like that, like, like being in a more visible point. But | 00:16:12 | |
then there's other options too, so that people wanna be down closer to like, so you feel like this, this design, uh, achieves kind | 00:16:18 | |
of both of desires. | 00:16:23 | |
I don't know if you've discussed this. We, we talked about these in all regional draw aspects of design. Umm, I grew up acting | 00:16:31 | |
near DC and he always had there in the spring, uh, the, the trees that were moving there, uh, there on the mall. Umm, I don't know | 00:16:37 | |
if they thought about the blank dazzle on when we're doing the match planning here, we're gonna have a very unique trail along the | 00:16:42 | |
way, but sometimes we're all with the plants or trees or things like that. That's a seasonal aspect that if you're planning | 00:16:48 | |
everything fresh, we're planning. | 00:16:54 | |
For trade and stuff, but some opportunity there of to be very unique in whatever is planted. Uh, it could, it could bloom or the | 00:17:01 | |
foliage and the fall, whatever it would be to be very unique and you saw it for all people to just walk along the lathe while | 00:17:06 | |
whatever plans it is or doing whatever they're doing. | 00:17:12 | |
You you wanna talk to maybe the landscaping? | 00:17:19 | |
Very good question. I love it when we talk about trees, uh, bronze and pattern and with, uh, the developers. | 00:17:25 | |
Adjacent bank owners. So there is I think in the pipeline package there's like a conceptual package of plant material. We're going | 00:17:31 | |
to work through the tree committee making sure that we're selecting other trees that are. | 00:17:39 | |
Are desired in the city, but that's something we definitely think about is year round interest in all of the plant material. So in | 00:17:47 | |
color, embark foliage, the bloom. | 00:17:53 | |
All of them. | 00:18:00 | |
So we don't have like specific varieties right now, but we have a wide list that will narrow down overtime. | 00:18:02 | |
And umm, kind of to the seasonal aspect of it, umm, the residents really did want us as well to provide those opportunities for | 00:18:13 | |
like the winter. So they can still be out over the water, but not necessarily in the water. So that's why the, the peers have a | 00:18:20 | |
design that essentially they're fairly close to the elevation of the street. If you remember, there's like a 15 to 18 foot umm | 00:18:27 | |
delta between the, the beach shore surface and, and where the, umm, the road surfaces. | 00:18:35 | |
Umm So those tiers will be fairly high from that perspective. Umm but that gives people the opportunity to get out, get great | 00:18:43 | |
views, get pretty far out into the lake, even if we have a lower umm water line. Umm, and to take pictures with the ice flows. And | 00:18:50 | |
it's also really popular for watching area. So that provides that, that opportunity. Umm yeah, we are looking at kind of that, | 00:18:56 | |
that piece that would be next to the boardwalk park, the, the park area if you wanna show that. | 00:19:03 | |
Right there maybe. | 00:19:11 | |
Just highlight what you have right there. So that's, I think that 2 1/2 acre to three acre park and that we've talked about doing | 00:19:12 | |
ice skating. So there's there, there's some components that we could add umm, that could potentially bring people out, umm, there | 00:19:18 | |
in, in, in the winter to provide like a draw. Umm, So yeah, a lot, lots of different options. We haven't, uh, but there's | 00:19:24 | |
definitely like spaces that are still available that as we start to use it and residents want certain amenities and we have some | 00:19:30 | |
areas where we can puzzle. | 00:19:36 | |
There are there are planned firefights as well. That's one of the moments that we identify in the grant that we would be able to | 00:19:43 | |
just. | 00:19:47 | |
Any other questions? | 00:19:57 | |
Umm, and you Chair, if you want, you can open to the public too if they have any questions. Sure. Do we have any questions or | 00:20:04 | |
comments from the public on this umm site plan? | 00:20:09 | |
Yes I know, just a comment. Umm and this looks great and renderings are amazing. I didn't catch. At what phase will the water | 00:20:16 | |
become blue? | 00:20:22 | |
Let's say umm. | 00:20:30 | |
That, that is a really good question. Umm, you know, I'll, I'll, I'll joking aside that the idea to go back to the site plan. | 00:20:35 | |
Maybe you can highlight that the the sandpaper wall. So part of what our our plan will include on the the low lend part Umm so | 00:20:43 | |
well, yeah. | 00:20:50 | |
Umm is to put a a standsaver wall or some sort of mechanism that will help to retain? | 00:20:59 | |
And then paddle boarding that kind of stuff, umm, CL close to the shore. Umm, but that'll, that'll take umm, quite a bit of | 00:21:35 | |
engineering and uh, but it is something that we have worked with kind of the aquatic, umm, with an aquatic engineering group, uh, | 00:21:42 | |
Nickel Moffett. Umm, during the master plan they said, yeah, that's, that's very doable. It's going to take some time to figure | 00:21:50 | |
out and most likely to umm, the state will require us to do some sort of a pilot project for something like that. So we may, umm. | 00:21:57 | |
We may deal just like a portion of it to see how it holds up over over a season before we pull the trigger on that that full. | 00:22:04 | |
Umm, Stan Saverwall, because that's gonna be a a pretty significant capital project. | 00:22:11 | |
So yeah, I hope the hope is that the water is blue, at least where we're sweating. | 00:22:17 | |
OK. | 00:22:24 | |
But other than that, we're out. Yeah. Got a comment on if that's right? Sure. Yeah. | 00:22:27 | |
Yeah, just state your name and name and who's your name. | 00:22:33 | |
So you guys are gonna rebuild the Allegro, Yes. And if you are, so we're gonna take so a little late if I use that late for a lot | 00:22:38 | |
to get home, Yeah. | 00:22:43 | |
Yeah, so that, that, that's a umm, that's a good question. So the Lake Rd. a lot of times umm, people see the Lake Rd. and it | 00:22:54 | |
takes interactor, but the interchange will just be uh, east of, uh, what is east of where the soaring is for the Lake Rd. Umm, but | 00:23:00 | |
this Lake Rd. will have access to the Vineyard, uh, Connector. I don't know if you're aware of Vineyard connector will actually go | 00:23:06 | |
to pioneer Crossing. So it'll make a really big. | 00:23:12 | |
You know, connection. So it's gonna be a significant thoroughfare through Utah County, umm, and so you'll be able to go north from | 00:23:19 | |
where you're at. So that's 300 W and then you'll make a, a turn to the east and it turns back. So it's kinda the same roads as a | 00:23:26 | |
turn in turn into Lake Rd. But if you go up there where you see the bend in that picture in the road, umm, umm, that will actually | 00:23:34 | |
feed into the vendors connector from there. So about half a mile up from yeah, mm-hmm, yeah. And that'll, that'll get you. | 00:23:41 | |
Highway. | 00:23:49 | |
Yeah, so tonight, umm, if you're good, I mean, we are, we're looking for, uh, an approval or approval with conditions or denial. | 00:23:58 | |
Deny it. Tell us why. We'll feel sad then, but we'll come back again. Uh, we're yeah, we're looking for an action and you are the | 00:24:03 | |
just deciding body on this. This is the side plan, OK. | 00:24:09 | |
Yeah, my own comments is the working on this for a while and so far it's just built on what we discussed initially in the very | 00:24:18 | |
beginning that that's. | 00:24:24 | |
Refreshing to have consistency and making it better as we go. So yeah, just real quick, I wanna, uh, to shout out to Anthony. | 00:24:31 | |
He's, he's kinda taking us working with, umm, flagship, working with Northern Engineering, uh, with OJB, with a lot of designers. | 00:24:38 | |
He's taken us from a very conceptual idea from the master plan to something at that schematic level that's ready to be engineered. | 00:24:45 | |
So, you know. | 00:24:52 | |
That's off to you buddy. Did your job. It's got a lot of work. I just appreciated and very noticed. OK. | 00:24:59 | |
All right, umm, glad of you want to make a motion. | 00:25:09 | |
Mr. Graydon. | 00:25:15 | |
The is that right? I have a motion I move to approve the vineyard each our site plan is requested by staff with the proposed | 00:25:19 | |
conditions. | 00:25:23 | |
OK, and give us a second, our second. Cool. All in favor. Aye, aye, cool. | 00:25:30 | |
And with that, we will move to number four staff, mission and committee reports. Do we have anything of note tonight? | 00:25:39 | |
Steph yes, we got a few items. Umm cool. So. | 00:25:50 | |
Great. Thank you. Thank you for that. | 00:25:55 | |
As you know, we have the, the, the Mill Rd. uh, grant Anthony was successful in, in getting that grant. He's just hit home runs. | 00:25:59 | |
What's going on? Cash. What's cash? Yeah, where's cash? | 00:26:04 | |
I'm trying to hit them against each other, you know, so they don't align against me. I tell you that. Just just the management | 00:26:12 | |
right there. So, uh, we'll be working on Mill Road and the idea with Mill Rd. is to make it a, umm, a safer Rd. for crossing, so | 00:26:18 | |
people can cross when we get our town hall meeting there, umm, last year we had really good tenants and that was a major concern | 00:26:24 | |
from the residents was it's very dangerous. | 00:26:30 | |
It seems like everyone likes their individual community as soon as they wanna leave the community or they have kids trying to get | 00:26:36 | |
to school or going to Maverick or whatnot, It's it was very dangerous. And so just to let people know, know we are not, I don't | 00:26:42 | |
know who has been telling people this, but we are not want, we're not gonna remove traffic lands from the road. | 00:26:47 | |
We do wanna make bill roads safer. So if we can incorporate some bicycle infrastructure, some good crossing, umm, in some areas, | 00:26:53 | |
try trying to slow the traffic because even though it's signed at 35, we're getting people going to 50 miles an hour constantly. | 00:27:00 | |
And yeah, and we've all seen that graph of pedestrian with a, an impact at 50 miles an hour is, you know, not, not gonna be | 00:27:06 | |
involved in that, but so anyway. | 00:27:12 | |
Yeah, so we, we wanna make it safer. So, umm, we'll be gearing up for that. We might do. | 00:27:20 | |
We're going to do a town hall over there again, but with the consultant. We've got all the comments from the one last year. So | 00:27:25 | |
we'll try and get some concepts together and bring those to the public. And, uh, anyway, just yeah, that's, that'll be an exciting | 00:27:31 | |
project. So cool. There's anything else you guys want? | 00:27:37 | |
That's correct, Commissioners. You got anything? | 00:27:45 | |
No, you're good. | 00:27:49 | |
Yeah, so barrier wants to know how much the grants was for 120 thousand. Oh, nice. That's our a a wayfinding signage plan too. So | 00:27:52 | |
it'll be both. No, the mill rug corridors coming the streets next to it and looking at doing wayfinding signs citywide. OK, cool. | 00:27:58 | |
That's that's great. | 00:28:04 | |
Alright, uh, that is it then. Uh, this meeting is adjourned. | 00:28:12 | |
Until next time, thanks guys. Thanks for coming, Darius. | 00:28:19 |
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All this meeting welcome tonight to our venue to be Planning Commission. Umm, I just have to ask somebody else to do it. So I will | 00:00:01 | |
lead us any questions to lead us. | 00:00:06 | |
I have pleasure using the product of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, | 00:00:15 | |
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. | 00:00:22 | |
Cool. Thanks, guys. All right, we will go ahead and open this up to #2 public comments. Do we have any comments from members of | 00:00:32 | |
the public in the room? Can I have anything for us? Darius, you don't have to. Again, not to put you on the spot. | 00:00:40 | |
Thank you. Thank you very much. Yeah. | 00:00:48 | |
That's the last time the Commission meeting you mentioned about the band volleyball coming on. I went home and started thinking | 00:00:53 | |
about it there. I had just one concern, feral cat and was a dog. | 00:01:00 | |
Yeah, and how you will take care of that, that's my concern. And sorry. We're happy to have umm, Brian, if you're OK with it. | 00:01:08 | |
Brian, umm, I'll call you. He, he, he can talk through. But umm, we, we have talked about some of that. If you remember Sunset | 00:01:16 | |
Beach Park, I don't know if you remember that discussion. There was supposed to be 4 volleyball. | 00:01:24 | |
Umm umm, courts in in in that as was like 2 or 4 Broads you would know, so probably no better but. | 00:01:33 | |
Our, uh, our last engineer was, was concerned about that. And so it was like an amazing thing. Umm, but I think with, with Brian, | 00:01:39 | |
he, he has it set up differently or his department's organized differently. So they think there, there would be maintenance. And | 00:01:46 | |
so hopefully we can catch some of that. But umm, I can call you and yeah, yeah. | 00:01:52 | |
Yeah, no problem. Thanks. | 00:02:00 | |
But that's, that's fair. We have a sandbox growing up. I have a sandbox growing up. Yeah, we didn't plan it after a while. OK, uh, | 00:02:02 | |
with that we will move on to #3 business items, umm, these two items, 3.1 Vineyard Beach park improvement site plan. | 00:02:13 | |
And whoever has that presentation, we are really excited about it. | 00:02:27 | |
Is it, is it you, Anthony? Yes, I'm just logging in right now. I have to search all my stuff. | 00:02:36 | |
So we have the landscape Architect online to join us in this meeting right now. So any questions we have, you will be available to | 00:02:44 | |
also answer. Can you hear us, Sam? | 00:02:52 | |
Hello Sam, can you hear us? | 00:03:07 | |
OK. | 00:03:16 | |
Alright, so I'll I'll go ahead and start then. | 00:03:21 | |
My name is Anthony Fletcher. I'm a planner here at the city, and today we'll be presenting the UM. | 00:03:27 | |
When a beach park improvement site plan. | 00:03:34 | |
So as you already know, we, uh, presented this at an earlier work session, the last one information meeting. So I'll just go | 00:03:37 | |
straight to the main, umm, site where we're having this, this, this shows you an idea of where it's gonna be. That's the area | 00:03:43 | |
marked for this, uh, Vineyard Beach Park. | 00:03:50 | |
Oh great. So this area here marked in red shows the area that we're that's going to be improved. The current park is just this | 00:04:03 | |
little corner here, but it's gonna be expanded all the way through. | 00:04:09 | |
Just to give you a, umm, an idea of how it looks currently, umm, that's a Lake Rd. That's the existing, umm, Vineyard beach right | 00:04:21 | |
now. We're looking to have it all improved to have this area covered. That's gonna be block six of the promenade and block 5. | 00:04:29 | |
That's the newly constructed umm, video connector. Just to arrange all of us. | 00:04:36 | |
That's another area from another angle, Lasvania Beach currently as it is. | 00:04:45 | |
In the Lake Rd. | 00:04:50 | |
And this is the overall site plan for the Vineyard beach improvement. | 00:04:53 | |
Umm, this shows just a quick connection of the park and how, umm, in our inter it interacts with other developments that are | 00:05:03 | |
ongoing. We have the promenade here and this shows how it connects seamlessly through the promenade and to, uh, vinyl station. | 00:05:11 | |
This is the first attempt to uh, create a city, umm, vineyard. | 00:05:18 | |
Umm Utah City Loop? Green Loop. | 00:05:28 | |
Oh, this just shows a quick connection on how it just interacts with, uh, the promenade and. | 00:05:33 | |
Heading over through to UMM. | 00:05:43 | |
The train station as well. | 00:05:46 | |
So the green loop I talked about this will be the Vineyard Beach area is gonna go through the umm, the promenade area, connect to | 00:05:50 | |
the east side and loop back into umm, the north from 1200 N and back into umm, the Vineyard beach so we can have a green loop | 00:05:56 | |
through the city. | 00:06:03 | |
So talking about the main plan. | 00:06:12 | |
Uh, we're going to have the Lake Rd. umm, demolished and rebuilt. The, the project is going to be divided into two main parts, | 00:06:17 | |
which is Appland and the low landscape, uh, scope. The upland scope is in is everything, you know, north side, I mean, on the east | 00:06:25 | |
side of umm, the wetland delineation is going to have a multi use trail. | 00:06:32 | |
With many paths for pedestrians, umm vehicle access for maintenance. | 00:06:41 | |
And umm, you know, umm. | 00:06:47 | |
ADA accessible, uh, sidewalks gonna have that, a couple of pavilions with restrooms up on there. Umm, we're gonna have a dog park | 00:06:51 | |
is gonna have umm, a kids play area and umm. | 00:06:59 | |
We're gonna have like, you know, a lot of uh, loan loan space and enhanced beach area with some site furniture as well. | 00:07:08 | |
This is a quick rendering of umm, the multi use trail and some parts of the you know, the park that were frozen. | 00:07:24 | |
And this year will show you up next is umm, across the Lake Rd. cross sections that I have here, the 1-2 and three. So we have one | 00:07:34 | |
being umm, the most northern part of it. | 00:07:41 | |
So this is shown Section 1, and this Lake Rd. is being designed with everyone in mind where we have, uh, trails on both sides. We | 00:07:50 | |
have umm, you know, median where we, you know, our pedestrians are going to be protected. | 00:07:58 | |
We're gonna have some street parking as well. | 00:08:07 | |
And that's how it's going to look. | 00:08:11 | |
The second section, which is more to the middle part of the Lake Rd. has a different configuration which just expands to add an | 00:08:17 | |
extra part uh parking. So you have parking on both sides. | 00:08:23 | |
And on to the satisfaction, which is much S you have head back into one parking on one side and which is going to be curbless. So | 00:08:33 | |
there's gonna be an, uh, an easy and seamless, uh, transition from the side of the park. Uh, that which connects to block 5, uh, I | 00:08:40 | |
mean block. | 00:08:47 | |
5-6 down to uh. | 00:08:55 | |
The the Vineyard beach area without really having to go through any umm curves. It just has a a different surface on this side | 00:08:59 | |
which will make it umm safer and also slow cars down for pedestrians crossing and all that. | 00:09:07 | |
So we have, umm, you know, the outline area, which was earlier shown, uh, being the side above the wetland delineation and below | 00:09:17 | |
is going to be the wetland area. | 00:09:23 | |
And in phasing out this plan, we are, you know, we have phases from phase one to five generally and we have umm, phase 1A being | 00:09:31 | |
pretty much, uh, removal of the regulation mass grading, just pretty much preparing the, the site and we're hoping to have this | 00:09:38 | |
started by late spring. | 00:09:46 | |
Umm, phase 1B, uh, still part of the phase. Phase will be demolition of, uh, Lake Rd. installation of back, uh, bone utilities, | 00:09:56 | |
curbs and gutters. That's pretty much preparing the site for, uh, the construction as well. Phase two will be, umm, installing fun | 00:10:05 | |
foundations, you know, installing the, the pathways from stairs. | 00:10:13 | |
And, umm. | 00:10:23 | |
Side side structure, retaining wall and the park buildings that we the pavilions and all that that we showed earlier. | 00:10:26 | |
The Lake Rd. would be completed, hopefully UMM by phase three. | 00:10:34 | |
And phase four and five would be umm, on the, on the umm, the wetland scope, which is going to be contingent on the completion of | 00:10:40 | |
uh, phase 123. | 00:10:46 | |
This will include Virgin of the Lake, you know, mass grading of the lake edge, the sand, silver wall, possibly the Piers, and | 00:10:54 | |
installation of the beach amenities. | 00:11:00 | |
So that's an overview of the site and this just shows a video of the entire, just a random video of the entire site. | 00:11:08 | |
Umm for the venue beach. | 00:11:18 | |
And staff is proposing that. | 00:11:23 | |
Umm, we have the site plan approved. | 00:11:27 | |
To help us continue with umm its implementation and construction. | 00:11:31 | |
I appreciate Anthony umm and just to kind of clarify to you, this approves kind of the updated overall plan. It's pretty | 00:11:38 | |
consistent with the SFKR plan that was approved in the master PLA, the original master plan. But if you remember that that plan | 00:11:46 | |
had up here that was like a quarter mile long. That was massive and I mean, it was beautiful, but it was it, you know, from a cost | 00:11:53 | |
standpoint, it was probably, uh, pretty far out. And so that this plan is a lot more realistic. | 00:12:00 | |
A, as far as like things that, that we can buy it off over the years, umm, the uplands, as Anthony talked about, those are things | 00:12:08 | |
that we'll be able to implement in the next, you know, umm, two to five years. Umm, And then at the same time, the plan is that we | 00:12:15 | |
do the Army Corps, umm, umm, per permitting, we do the umm, wetland analysis and most likely, umm, there would be some sort of, | 00:12:23 | |
umm, habitat restoration plan that we have to do. So there's a pretty big process for anything that's, that's in the wetlands. | 00:12:30 | |
How like umm, and then going through FFSL and the Army Corps. So there's, there's two big players that, that we would need to work | 00:12:38 | |
with. So, so the lake stuff's gonna take longer. Uh, still pretty exciting, but it's good that we get us a plan now. This is still | 00:12:44 | |
first pipeline. This is still fairly, this is a lot more detailed. We're at a schematic level of design. Umm what we wouldn't | 00:12:51 | |
anticipate though, is like the park on the, the, the children's park. | 00:12:57 | |
That you see kind of in the center, just umm, West of the Lake Rd. | 00:13:04 | |
That area, when, when, when that's ready, we would come through for an official site plan that'll have details of the restrooms | 00:13:09 | |
and stuff like that. The dog park would be the same thing. Umm, but approval of this, with what this allows us to do is to start | 00:13:16 | |
doing the grading and, and kind of those larger items that the grant will cover the TRCC grant that we received for $3,000,000 | 00:13:22 | |
Umm, so that'll allow us to start to grade, get the trail in place. | 00:13:29 | |
Umm, the road won't be through the ground, but the plan is to try to get the Lake Rd. | 00:13:36 | |
Umm, improved over the next, uh, year or so as well, but just wanted to to make that clarification that we'll be coming back for | 00:13:40 | |
more detailed site plan stuff. But this, this will always kind of pull the trigger, allowing the city to move forward with the | 00:13:47 | |
grading and some of some of those larger items for happy to answer any questions. | 00:13:54 | |
Looks great. I run on that trail. Yeah, all the time. | 00:14:07 | |
This is fantastic. Are are there considerations being made for the configuration of the trail separating bikes from from runners? | 00:14:16 | |
Umm, yeah. And, and correct me if I'm, if I'm wrong, but from when we did our, our master plan back in 2022, umm, the, the push | 00:14:30 | |
from the community was make that, make that a wider path because we're there, that's when we started seeing conflicts with, you | 00:14:37 | |
know, skateboarders and scooter people and kids on bikes and just runners. So. | 00:14:44 | |
The the trail I believe for most of it is gonna be 15 foot wet, which would allow us to divvy up that space most likely with the | 00:14:52 | |
biking we probably would do umm, you know, on North and South lane and then. | 00:14:59 | |
The, the running what would be 55 feet so that, that would provide a spot. The other cool thing. So this is the, the busiest part. | 00:15:06 | |
If you imagine everyone, umm, in the downtown, you know, coming down through the promenade, you have two promenades on either side | 00:15:12 | |
that kind of bookend this, this part of the lake. This is we, we imagine this is gonna be very, very busy. Umm, and so that's | 00:15:18 | |
important that we do have some separation there, but umm, there was definitely interest from the community that we extend that | 00:15:24 | |
same trail design. | 00:15:30 | |
But we do like that in the lake trail in that location because it is very visible. And that was another thing that we heard was | 00:16:06 | |
safety, you know, like, umm, a, a woman running at night or something like that, like, like being in a more visible point. But | 00:16:12 | |
then there's other options too, so that people wanna be down closer to like, so you feel like this, this design, uh, achieves kind | 00:16:18 | |
of both of desires. | 00:16:23 | |
I don't know if you've discussed this. We, we talked about these in all regional draw aspects of design. Umm, I grew up acting | 00:16:31 | |
near DC and he always had there in the spring, uh, the, the trees that were moving there, uh, there on the mall. Umm, I don't know | 00:16:37 | |
if they thought about the blank dazzle on when we're doing the match planning here, we're gonna have a very unique trail along the | 00:16:42 | |
way, but sometimes we're all with the plants or trees or things like that. That's a seasonal aspect that if you're planning | 00:16:48 | |
everything fresh, we're planning. | 00:16:54 | |
For trade and stuff, but some opportunity there of to be very unique in whatever is planted. Uh, it could, it could bloom or the | 00:17:01 | |
foliage and the fall, whatever it would be to be very unique and you saw it for all people to just walk along the lathe while | 00:17:06 | |
whatever plans it is or doing whatever they're doing. | 00:17:12 | |
You you wanna talk to maybe the landscaping? | 00:17:19 | |
Very good question. I love it when we talk about trees, uh, bronze and pattern and with, uh, the developers. | 00:17:25 | |
Adjacent bank owners. So there is I think in the pipeline package there's like a conceptual package of plant material. We're going | 00:17:31 | |
to work through the tree committee making sure that we're selecting other trees that are. | 00:17:39 | |
Are desired in the city, but that's something we definitely think about is year round interest in all of the plant material. So in | 00:17:47 | |
color, embark foliage, the bloom. | 00:17:53 | |
All of them. | 00:18:00 | |
So we don't have like specific varieties right now, but we have a wide list that will narrow down overtime. | 00:18:02 | |
And umm, kind of to the seasonal aspect of it, umm, the residents really did want us as well to provide those opportunities for | 00:18:13 | |
like the winter. So they can still be out over the water, but not necessarily in the water. So that's why the, the peers have a | 00:18:20 | |
design that essentially they're fairly close to the elevation of the street. If you remember, there's like a 15 to 18 foot umm | 00:18:27 | |
delta between the, the beach shore surface and, and where the, umm, the road surfaces. | 00:18:35 | |
Umm So those tiers will be fairly high from that perspective. Umm but that gives people the opportunity to get out, get great | 00:18:43 | |
views, get pretty far out into the lake, even if we have a lower umm water line. Umm, and to take pictures with the ice flows. And | 00:18:50 | |
it's also really popular for watching area. So that provides that, that opportunity. Umm yeah, we are looking at kind of that, | 00:18:56 | |
that piece that would be next to the boardwalk park, the, the park area if you wanna show that. | 00:19:03 | |
Right there maybe. | 00:19:11 | |
Just highlight what you have right there. So that's, I think that 2 1/2 acre to three acre park and that we've talked about doing | 00:19:12 | |
ice skating. So there's there, there's some components that we could add umm, that could potentially bring people out, umm, there | 00:19:18 | |
in, in, in the winter to provide like a draw. Umm, So yeah, a lot, lots of different options. We haven't, uh, but there's | 00:19:24 | |
definitely like spaces that are still available that as we start to use it and residents want certain amenities and we have some | 00:19:30 | |
areas where we can puzzle. | 00:19:36 | |
There are there are planned firefights as well. That's one of the moments that we identify in the grant that we would be able to | 00:19:43 | |
just. | 00:19:47 | |
Any other questions? | 00:19:57 | |
Umm, and you Chair, if you want, you can open to the public too if they have any questions. Sure. Do we have any questions or | 00:20:04 | |
comments from the public on this umm site plan? | 00:20:09 | |
Yes I know, just a comment. Umm and this looks great and renderings are amazing. I didn't catch. At what phase will the water | 00:20:16 | |
become blue? | 00:20:22 | |
Let's say umm. | 00:20:30 | |
That, that is a really good question. Umm, you know, I'll, I'll, I'll joking aside that the idea to go back to the site plan. | 00:20:35 | |
Maybe you can highlight that the the sandpaper wall. So part of what our our plan will include on the the low lend part Umm so | 00:20:43 | |
well, yeah. | 00:20:50 | |
Umm is to put a a standsaver wall or some sort of mechanism that will help to retain? | 00:20:59 | |
And then paddle boarding that kind of stuff, umm, CL close to the shore. Umm, but that'll, that'll take umm, quite a bit of | 00:21:35 | |
engineering and uh, but it is something that we have worked with kind of the aquatic, umm, with an aquatic engineering group, uh, | 00:21:42 | |
Nickel Moffett. Umm, during the master plan they said, yeah, that's, that's very doable. It's going to take some time to figure | 00:21:50 | |
out and most likely to umm, the state will require us to do some sort of a pilot project for something like that. So we may, umm. | 00:21:57 | |
We may deal just like a portion of it to see how it holds up over over a season before we pull the trigger on that that full. | 00:22:04 | |
Umm, Stan Saverwall, because that's gonna be a a pretty significant capital project. | 00:22:11 | |
So yeah, I hope the hope is that the water is blue, at least where we're sweating. | 00:22:17 | |
OK. | 00:22:24 | |
But other than that, we're out. Yeah. Got a comment on if that's right? Sure. Yeah. | 00:22:27 | |
Yeah, just state your name and name and who's your name. | 00:22:33 | |
So you guys are gonna rebuild the Allegro, Yes. And if you are, so we're gonna take so a little late if I use that late for a lot | 00:22:38 | |
to get home, Yeah. | 00:22:43 | |
Yeah, so that, that, that's a umm, that's a good question. So the Lake Rd. a lot of times umm, people see the Lake Rd. and it | 00:22:54 | |
takes interactor, but the interchange will just be uh, east of, uh, what is east of where the soaring is for the Lake Rd. Umm, but | 00:23:00 | |
this Lake Rd. will have access to the Vineyard, uh, Connector. I don't know if you're aware of Vineyard connector will actually go | 00:23:06 | |
to pioneer Crossing. So it'll make a really big. | 00:23:12 | |
You know, connection. So it's gonna be a significant thoroughfare through Utah County, umm, and so you'll be able to go north from | 00:23:19 | |
where you're at. So that's 300 W and then you'll make a, a turn to the east and it turns back. So it's kinda the same roads as a | 00:23:26 | |
turn in turn into Lake Rd. But if you go up there where you see the bend in that picture in the road, umm, umm, that will actually | 00:23:34 | |
feed into the vendors connector from there. So about half a mile up from yeah, mm-hmm, yeah. And that'll, that'll get you. | 00:23:41 | |
Highway. | 00:23:49 | |
Yeah, so tonight, umm, if you're good, I mean, we are, we're looking for, uh, an approval or approval with conditions or denial. | 00:23:58 | |
Deny it. Tell us why. We'll feel sad then, but we'll come back again. Uh, we're yeah, we're looking for an action and you are the | 00:24:03 | |
just deciding body on this. This is the side plan, OK. | 00:24:09 | |
Yeah, my own comments is the working on this for a while and so far it's just built on what we discussed initially in the very | 00:24:18 | |
beginning that that's. | 00:24:24 | |
Refreshing to have consistency and making it better as we go. So yeah, just real quick, I wanna, uh, to shout out to Anthony. | 00:24:31 | |
He's, he's kinda taking us working with, umm, flagship, working with Northern Engineering, uh, with OJB, with a lot of designers. | 00:24:38 | |
He's taken us from a very conceptual idea from the master plan to something at that schematic level that's ready to be engineered. | 00:24:45 | |
So, you know. | 00:24:52 | |
That's off to you buddy. Did your job. It's got a lot of work. I just appreciated and very noticed. OK. | 00:24:59 | |
All right, umm, glad of you want to make a motion. | 00:25:09 | |
Mr. Graydon. | 00:25:15 | |
The is that right? I have a motion I move to approve the vineyard each our site plan is requested by staff with the proposed | 00:25:19 | |
conditions. | 00:25:23 | |
OK, and give us a second, our second. Cool. All in favor. Aye, aye, cool. | 00:25:30 | |
And with that, we will move to number four staff, mission and committee reports. Do we have anything of note tonight? | 00:25:39 | |
Steph yes, we got a few items. Umm cool. So. | 00:25:50 | |
Great. Thank you. Thank you for that. | 00:25:55 | |
As you know, we have the, the, the Mill Rd. uh, grant Anthony was successful in, in getting that grant. He's just hit home runs. | 00:25:59 | |
What's going on? Cash. What's cash? Yeah, where's cash? | 00:26:04 | |
I'm trying to hit them against each other, you know, so they don't align against me. I tell you that. Just just the management | 00:26:12 | |
right there. So, uh, we'll be working on Mill Road and the idea with Mill Rd. is to make it a, umm, a safer Rd. for crossing, so | 00:26:18 | |
people can cross when we get our town hall meeting there, umm, last year we had really good tenants and that was a major concern | 00:26:24 | |
from the residents was it's very dangerous. | 00:26:30 | |
It seems like everyone likes their individual community as soon as they wanna leave the community or they have kids trying to get | 00:26:36 | |
to school or going to Maverick or whatnot, It's it was very dangerous. And so just to let people know, know we are not, I don't | 00:26:42 | |
know who has been telling people this, but we are not want, we're not gonna remove traffic lands from the road. | 00:26:47 | |
We do wanna make bill roads safer. So if we can incorporate some bicycle infrastructure, some good crossing, umm, in some areas, | 00:26:53 | |
try trying to slow the traffic because even though it's signed at 35, we're getting people going to 50 miles an hour constantly. | 00:27:00 | |
And yeah, and we've all seen that graph of pedestrian with a, an impact at 50 miles an hour is, you know, not, not gonna be | 00:27:06 | |
involved in that, but so anyway. | 00:27:12 | |
Yeah, so we, we wanna make it safer. So, umm, we'll be gearing up for that. We might do. | 00:27:20 | |
We're going to do a town hall over there again, but with the consultant. We've got all the comments from the one last year. So | 00:27:25 | |
we'll try and get some concepts together and bring those to the public. And, uh, anyway, just yeah, that's, that'll be an exciting | 00:27:31 | |
project. So cool. There's anything else you guys want? | 00:27:37 | |
That's correct, Commissioners. You got anything? | 00:27:45 | |
No, you're good. | 00:27:49 | |
Yeah, so barrier wants to know how much the grants was for 120 thousand. Oh, nice. That's our a a wayfinding signage plan too. So | 00:27:52 | |
it'll be both. No, the mill rug corridors coming the streets next to it and looking at doing wayfinding signs citywide. OK, cool. | 00:27:58 | |
That's that's great. | 00:28:04 | |
Alright, uh, that is it then. Uh, this meeting is adjourned. | 00:28:12 | |
Until next time, thanks guys. Thanks for coming, Darius. | 00:28:19 |