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| OK, we are now live. Umm like it's Wednesday, January 27th, 2021. | 00:00:00 | |
| And it is 8:01 PM and we're opening the RDA meeting. And as Chair Fulmer is absent, I'd like to call for a nomination to chair the | 00:00:09 | |
| meeting tonight. | 00:00:15 | |
| This is Chris I'd like to nominate. | 00:00:23 | |
| Member Flake Pike Flake as the chair for tonight's meeting. Second, I could second that. OK, roll call, Christy. | 00:00:26 | |
| Oh. | 00:00:39 | |
| T. | 00:00:40 | |
| Yeah. OK, Motion carries. I turn the time over to you. | 00:00:41 | |
| Pro Tem Blake. | 00:00:47 | |
| Mayor. | 00:00:51 | |
| Excuse from this front RDA. | 00:00:53 | |
| And then your city do hereby find and declare as follows due to the emergency conditions which currently exist in the state of | 00:00:56 | |
| Utah. | 00:01:00 | |
| And specifically in Utah County and Vineyard City as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. | 00:01:04 | |
| And the. | 00:01:11 | |
| 19 infections across the state and Utah County. | 00:01:13 | |
| The holding of public meetings with an anchor location as defined in the Utah open and public heat? Exactly. | 00:01:18 | |
| Presents a substantial risk to. | 00:01:26 | |
| Health and safety of those who may be. | 00:01:29 | |
| At an anchor location. | 00:01:32 | |
| And the risk to those who may present. | 00:01:34 | |
| At the anchor location can't be such such substantially mitigated by holding public meetings of the City Council. | 00:01:37 | |
| Pursue it to the electronic beats that allow. | 00:01:45 | |
| Public participation via. | 00:01:49 | |
| Virtual needs that also includes already. | 00:01:51 | |
| City has the means and ability to allow virtual partic. | 00:01:56 | |
| In the book of meetings, in accordance with the Utah Open and Public Meeting Act. | 00:02:00 | |
| Now therefore based upon before. | 00:02:05 | |
| 30 days. | 00:02:07 | |
| The date of this order. | 00:02:09 | |
| Feedings of Vineyard City Council and RDA. | 00:02:11 | |
| Virtual needs without an anchor. | 00:02:16 | |
| So. | 00:02:23 | |
| We have one item on the agenda we've got. | 00:02:27 | |
| Yeah. | 00:02:32 | |
| So. | 00:02:35 | |
| 2nd. | 00:02:37 | |
| Some items have been Appro. | 00:02:42 | |
| So do I have a motion to approve? | 00:02:48 | |
| What is the vote to the consent items? | 00:02:53 | |
| Yay. | 00:02:57 | |
| Yeah, let's go. Items are. | 00:03:00 | |
| OK. Just the one item on you want me to take. | 00:03:04 | |
| All right, let me share my screen again. | 00:03:10 | |
| You guys. | 00:03:17 | |
| Yes. | 00:03:20 | |
| An RDA application from Edge Homes and I believe that Jaron and Brandon are on the call. | 00:03:22 | |
| Will be available to answer questions, but I'll just run through this really quick. | 00:03:27 | |
| I have the application here, there's there's a few projects that we're looking at funding, so let me pull up the map. | 00:03:33 | |
| Can you guys see that map? | 00:03:44 | |
| Yes, yes. | 00:03:46 | |
| This exhibit is. | 00:03:50 | |
| Showing in blue 300 W that will go in the middle through the middle of this. | 00:03:52 | |
| This development and you've got an extension of blue growth that will pee in right in front of the courthouse. | 00:03:59 | |
| They would have been required to do a portion of both of these roads as part of their development. | 00:04:06 | |
| We requested as a city to try to enhance those roads. | 00:04:13 | |
| And so as part of that, we are presenting A reimbursement agreement for the portion of the road that they would not have been | 00:04:17 | |
| required to do as part of their development. | 00:04:22 | |
| The second part of this project is the existing Lake Rd. comes through to the West side of their. | 00:04:28 | |
| And as part of that site plan approval, they would have been required to take out this Med section of the trail or up the road. | 00:04:37 | |
| We wanted this blue section to also be removed. | 00:04:48 | |
| So that we could bring the trail through and we didn't have two trails cutting up this this new open space. | 00:04:52 | |
| So they they are proposing to fund the red portion and then the RDA would reimburse. | 00:05:01 | |
| And then as part of this project they would be regrading all of this area that is between. | 00:05:11 | |
| Their development and the existing lake trail. | 00:05:19 | |
| Regrading that area and then seating it and then because this is going to benefit their development as well as the city as a | 00:05:23 | |
| whole, we're proposing to do a 5050 park sharing on those costs. | 00:05:29 | |
| So those are the exhibits here, Jake, What's it being seated with? Sorry, is it just is we grass? | 00:05:36 | |
| Yes, I believe it's just, I don't know what, but it's grass. I don't need to know what time I'm just it's grass. Is that what | 00:05:42 | |
| we're doing? | 00:05:46 | |
| OK. It's a low maintenance native grass mix. | 00:05:51 | |
| OK, OK. | 00:05:54 | |
| So you guys can see here the background and discussion. Those are the projects that are being presented. The total cost of the | 00:05:57 | |
| project is estimated at 1,066,000 of which the developers requesting cost sharing of 647,000 from the RDA. | 00:06:05 | |
| Staff is recommending that the board approve the RDA application and allow the chair to sign a reimbursement agreement with Edge | 00:06:16 | |
| Homes. | 00:06:19 | |
| I believe I have. | 00:06:23 | |
| Umm. | 00:06:29 | |
| Otherwise, we're available to answer any questions. | 00:06:31 | |
| Jake, can you go back to the map that showed the access points to the current county trial? I think it showed some trails that | 00:06:35 | |
| maybe. | 00:06:40 | |
| Going east to West from the community. | 00:06:46 | |
| Connecting. | 00:06:49 | |
| Do I see that correctly? | 00:06:51 | |
| Yeah, I can pull that. | 00:06:52 | |
| Yeah, this one. | 00:06:56 | |
| I know along the county trail currently is. Isn't there a fence? | 00:07:00 | |
| It's off. | 00:07:05 | |
| So I guess that we we've coordinated with the county. | 00:07:06 | |
| To connect to the trail and have these open openings of their fence and everything, and they're comfortable with that. | 00:07:10 | |
| You're talking when you say fence, are you talking the guardrail? | 00:07:16 | |
| I believe. I believe there's a fence between the guardrail. | 00:07:22 | |
| I I can't answer that question. That's not a conversation I've been a part of. I don't know if there's a member of our staff or | 00:07:31 | |
| if. | 00:07:34 | |
| Chris Wilson just said. | 00:07:38 | |
| Oh, great. Thanks, Chris. | 00:07:40 | |
| That's a yes, but that that's being removed in this project. Yeah, removed or just access points. | 00:07:43 | |
| I'll wait for his comment. I imagine it's coming. | 00:07:50 | |
| Perfect. | 00:07:55 | |
| So just to clarify, the regrading would go the trail where the trail is past all the existing space to defend. | 00:07:57 | |
| Through the road to the property. | 00:08:06 | |
| That whole area to the trail. | 00:08:09 | |
| Brandon or Jared, I don't know if you want to speak to that on the actual plan for the grading. | 00:08:12 | |
| Uh. | 00:08:17 | |
| Yeah. Can you hear me? | 00:08:19 | |
| OK, great. Yeah. So, yeah, all of the regrading and the re vegetation will happen from where the existing jogging trail is. | 00:08:21 | |
| It was that whole green area of that map. So it's from the existing jogging trail all the way to our development. We're also | 00:08:28 | |
| running a. | 00:08:33 | |
| I think it's an 8 foot wide asphalt trail adjacent to our units. | 00:08:38 | |
| And so we're putting that trail in 100% on our dime and then put the whole reseating area of that green area. | 00:08:43 | |
| Uh. | 00:08:52 | |
| Yeah, essentially. | 00:08:54 | |
| That answer. And then yes, the fence will be. | 00:08:59 | |
| As we do this, I'm trying to remember that fences east or West of the existing jogging trail. I can't think of it off the top of | 00:09:03 | |
| my head, but I think it's on the east side and we'll remove that fence, Yes, so we have received. | 00:09:08 | |
| Approval officially from the state lands. It's actually state lands. There's a little sliver from the county and we've worked with | 00:09:15 | |
| them also Chris has been speller and helping us get working those. | 00:09:21 | |
| Uh. | 00:09:27 | |
| Working with the state lands in the county so we finally got their approval and. | 00:09:28 | |
| Are working towards getting a pre construction meeting set up with them on this. | 00:09:33 | |
| I guess the only question I would ask is what's the timeline? | 00:09:38 | |
| Completion, what are we looking at? Guesstimate, I know it's not exact. Yeah, no, that's a great question. So we intend to spend | 00:09:42 | |
| most of this year. | 00:09:46 | |
| Regrading the area and we've we've talked to Amber on your Planning Commission as well as our landscape architect on when the best | 00:09:50 | |
| time of year to receive this area is. | 00:09:55 | |
| And they both highly recommend we wait until the fall so that all of that reseed mix has a chance to to germinate throughout the | 00:10:00 | |
| winter and then we'll get the best pop of those plants in the springtime next year. So we'll spend this year doing all the | 00:10:06 | |
| improvements. | 00:10:12 | |
| And then we'll kind of keep an eye on, on weather, but yeah, this fall is when we hope. | 00:10:18 | |
| Hope to be completed. We've got to make sure that we get rid of all of the also invasive species that are on there. So we've got | 00:10:22 | |
| to kind of keep an eye on that over the summer. | 00:10:26 | |
| But yeah, so hopefully this time next. | 00:10:31 | |
| Soon as spring kind of hits, we'll start to see that really flourish. | 00:10:34 | |
| The maintenance, the maintenance of the the native grass and I I guess when I hear native grass, I guess I don't fully understand | 00:10:40 | |
| what that means. Are we talking? | 00:10:45 | |
| Native grass, it's going to grow up to a certain. | 00:10:50 | |
| On its own and won't need to be mowed down all the time or what does that mean? | 00:10:54 | |
| Yeah, so our landscape architect put together a really nice comprehensive. | 00:10:59 | |
| Maintenance plan and we've met with like I said Amber and staff on making sure that we're. | 00:11:05 | |
| And Sullivan was even involved in that to make sure we feel comfortable with that maintenance plan. So that's been implemented and | 00:11:11 | |
| reviewed. What was the other part of your other your question? | 00:11:17 | |
| You know, I don't remember, but that's a good answer I guess. Really it's a matter of just understanding the maintenance long term | 00:11:24 | |
| for me to understand that. So I mean, is there, is there another section of the city that this same native brass is located? So I | 00:11:29 | |
| kind of have an idea of what to compare it with? | 00:11:34 | |
| Yeah, I was going to interject Sullivan. When I hear native grass, I think of the grass that we have planted in Grove Park. | 00:11:39 | |
| Is that what we're talking about? | 00:11:47 | |
| There's there's, I think there's like five or six different varieties of grass that they're planting. | 00:11:51 | |
| Some of them will be in clumps that will grow taller, and some of them will grow smaller, and so there will be some options. | 00:11:56 | |
| As to how its maintain. | 00:12:03 | |
| And so we'll review those, you know the plan that they put together. | 00:12:05 | |
| And some of this will be a little bit of learning process on our part also, but they've done it. So that's a decorative, it's not | 00:12:09 | |
| just one you know, solid type of grass. There are no other. | 00:12:15 | |
| Areas in the city that will have or currently have anything like this. | 00:12:21 | |
| There's some areas that have some native grass out by junior connector, but that's that's nothing like this is going to look like. | 00:12:26 | |
| So Christy and Chris also, so, hey, this is Chris Wilson, so basically. | 00:12:34 | |
| We took the approach on this if this is an experiment, more or less because we haven't had any other grasses like this. | 00:12:39 | |
| So this will give us an opportunity. We took the best grasses that we could with the group of people. | 00:12:47 | |
| To what would be water wise low mainten? | 00:12:54 | |
| They will have some maintenance like maybe once a year like a knock down mowing or something like that. | 00:12:59 | |
| Very minimal. | 00:13:06 | |
| Keep the natural look of the lake and then we'll have to see. | 00:13:08 | |
| What grasses work and what we end up liking and then we can start using more. | 00:13:12 | |
| That or not using it in other areas of the. | 00:13:17 | |
| So whose land is this area? | 00:13:24 | |
| Maintain that It sounds like it's the city's responsibility. | 00:13:29 | |
| Yeah, so we went through. We worked with. | 00:13:32 | |
| The the state lands the Sovereign Lands group at the state and so that lands owned by the state. | 00:13:38 | |
| And we go through a permitting process where they allow us through a general permit to to more or less lease the land and take | 00:13:46 | |
| responsibility for the maintenance. | 00:13:52 | |
| An upkeep of it in exchange for the. | 00:13:59 | |
| Of that. So it's the same concept of what we did with the the Vineyard Beach area. | 00:14:03 | |
| And we've been slowly getting all the pieces along the beach as. | 00:14:10 | |
| Planning the development and. | 00:14:15 | |
| Eventually. | 00:14:18 | |
| Have the general permits for. | 00:14:19 | |
| The entire lakefront of. | 00:14:21 | |
| I would, I would interject that I would be a fan with the with this trail going along here and that green section being. | 00:14:26 | |
| A type of native grass. I feel like this could be a really neat area. | 00:14:33 | |
| For people to have picnics and put out blankets and so I would be. | 00:14:37 | |
| Inclined to work towards whatever grass or program allowed. | 00:14:43 | |
| That kind of recreation recreating to go on. | 00:14:47 | |
| If I'm seeing this right, maybe I'm seeing it wrong, but that's what I hope can happen there. | 00:14:53 | |
| No, I'm grateful for you guys clarifying that this is property. I wasn't sure if it was all of the developers property, in which | 00:14:57 | |
| case I was wondering why we were going to go in on it, but it makes sense that. | 00:15:04 | |
| This. | 00:15:10 | |
| You know, all of our citizens, I walk along this trail. | 00:15:12 | |
| All the time, and so I'm very familiar with the area. | 00:15:15 | |
| So it makes sense that we partner on it. Can I ask another question I? | 00:15:20 | |
| Correct me if I'm wrong. | 00:15:26 | |
| Because I believe this was a decision made before I was involved with the R. | 00:15:27 | |
| But I remember when this project was first coming in and it seemed like there was an agreement that there was going to be. | 00:15:32 | |
| $1,000,000 put in on the Northside with the promenade. | 00:15:39 | |
| Is that still part that's still an agreement that we have? | 00:15:42 | |
| And you're and you're never wrong, Christy. So don't short sell yourself. | 00:15:49 | |
| I mean, I won't dispute that, but. | 00:15:55 | |
| If that's the case, but it makes sense for us to maybe just use some of that money now in this portion of it. | 00:16:01 | |
| Because I just don't know what's going to happen with the promenade. | 00:16:09 | |
| That makes sense what I'm saying. | 00:16:14 | |
| I think it's part of the development, right? | 00:16:21 | |
| Uh. | 00:16:24 | |
| Edge Homes isn't required to do that anymore. | 00:16:25 | |
| Separate. | 00:16:28 | |
| Or Anderson, Geneva. | 00:16:32 | |
| They changed it again. Whatever has to be in conjunction with that third party, correct? | 00:16:35 | |
| OK, that answered. | 00:16:41 | |
| John's real quick. Also John out in this area. There are three existing pavilions. | 00:16:47 | |
| That the public will be able to use also. | 00:16:53 | |
| Love. | 00:16:57 | |
| Yeah, I was going to say basically the same thing and kind of the idea was to push more of the like the the rule approved park | 00:16:59 | |
| Park Ish kind of stuff towards the north by the by the boardwalk. So you see kind of more of an official grass area where people | 00:17:05 | |
| can shop. | 00:17:11 | |
| And then they'll have basically a grass area by the boardwalk where they can, where they do this area due to maintenance I know | 00:17:19 | |
| Dawn was really concerned about. | 00:17:24 | |
| The battle maintenance was going to take on, so we just look for really low maintenance water wise. | 00:17:29 | |
| You know, type plans, so it's more but there are pavilions to hang out, yeah, but I mean, but the grading is done well and if we | 00:17:36 | |
| get a grasp that's not going to grow crazy tall. It still is a nice transition towards that boardwalk and for sure. | 00:17:43 | |
| More formal grass area I understand, but yeah, so I want to. Let's make it. | 00:17:51 | |
| Hang out friendly as we can, if that, if that's possible. | 00:17:56 | |
| Great. And in the future if you wanted to add more pavilions and that's we can always add to the plan. | 00:18:01 | |
| Morgan, you're just talking about the existing civilians that are that are there not right. Yeah there there's a three there and | 00:18:07 | |
| then but what I'm saying is if there is a big demand for city choice come back in and work with the state to add more. Oh I'm, I'm | 00:18:14 | |
| just talking about grass where people hang out that's what I was talking about. No, we're good. Yeah. Yeah. So to add to that | 00:18:21 | |
| Morgan. So the the reason why we're doing this really simple is to be low cost in the clean up that area to get the trail. | 00:18:28 | |
| Networks completed. | 00:18:36 | |
| And then? | 00:18:37 | |
| The goal is, is in the future as we figure out what we really want along the lakefront, we'll go in and add additional amenities | 00:18:40 | |
| and change things. But for now like this is a it cleans it up, it gets our trail networks put together, it gives a nice product | 00:18:46 | |
| for edges. | 00:18:51 | |
| You know residents to come in and and to be able to enjoy that until we're ready with a bigger project to come through, if it's | 00:18:58 | |
| part of that. | 00:19:03 | |
| Lakefront Grant. | 00:19:08 | |
| Money that we got from the county or whatever it may be. | 00:19:10 | |
| Well, I still see it as a is a is a great you know destination for any of our residents honestly to go out and be able to do that. | 00:19:14 | |
| Like John said, I mean he he. | 00:19:18 | |
| Now let's go do picnics and things like that. It's one of the best views you can get down by the lake straight across, so I think | 00:19:23 | |
| it's a great spot. | 00:19:27 | |
| Yeah, I know for sure. I know. I know you guys live on the South Side, so you don't walk up there. But residents on this side of | 00:19:32 | |
| the city? | 00:19:35 | |
| Use that trail like crazy. | 00:19:38 | |
| Did we talk about this, including the trail expansion in the bridge? | 00:19:41 | |
| OK, sorry I failed to mention that, but that is also part of it. So connecting the two trail systems. So the trail ends right now | 00:19:47 | |
| at Sunset Beach Park. | 00:19:51 | |
| Part of this project is also including a bridge over that culvert and connecting that trail to the north, where it ends. | 00:19:55 | |
| Basically with this, with this finished sunset, park the trail. | 00:20:05 | |
| And all that land to the end of their opportunity. | 00:20:10 | |
| Right. It won't finish the park. | 00:20:13 | |
| Because that's part of Flagship's project, but it'll finish the. | 00:20:16 | |
| Like the state lands portion, but to Christie's point, they're rerouting the road. They're milling that portion of it up so that | 00:20:21 | |
| we can finish. | 00:20:25 | |
| I think the hope would be that with all of these agreements all kind of happening at the same time that all of that kind of. | 00:20:30 | |
| Comes together, yeah, Jake doesn't this. | 00:20:36 | |
| Help to, I guess, pay for the grading of where the culvert is, where it's like a Cliff, kind of a drop off, like it does not allow | 00:20:40 | |
| us to create a gentler slope. | 00:20:45 | |
| You know, I mean I like how how much of that could be connected with. | 00:20:50 | |
| The specifics on how to kind of integrate that area into this, I don't know that it necessarily. | 00:20:56 | |
| So Jake, it does and will between the lower trail, the county trail, and the trail that's up against edges. | 00:21:07 | |
| Buildings. It will regrade that section and take the clip away and to make a gentle slope, basically go from trail to trail and | 00:21:15 | |
| it'll be just one. | 00:21:20 | |
| It's about like a like roughly 30% slow. | 00:21:26 | |
| Chair, I'm I'm ready for a motion unless there's other questions. | 00:21:34 | |
| That's. | 00:21:38 | |
| Hold, I want to hold on. I want to make one comment. So as you guys know, we're going through the bonding process. | 00:21:40 | |
| With the RDA right now we're restructuring some of our current debt and looking at financing some new projects. So I don't know | 00:21:48 | |
| exactly. | 00:21:52 | |
| How quickly we're going to be able to reimburse these guys? | 00:21:58 | |
| Because I don't want to, I don't want to impact any bonding decisions that the city is going to make for the RDA is going to | 00:22:02 | |
| makeover the next few months. So we have put in there that we can work out the terms of reimbursement and then the chair can just | 00:22:09 | |
| sign the agreement. So I don't want to finalize any of that decision until we have these long discussions. | 00:22:15 | |
| So that it doesn't impact our bond rating or any of that, so. | 00:22:22 | |
| There's just allowing the chair to sign an agreement in the future. | 00:22:26 | |
| With these terms that have been presented, so that's. | 00:22:30 | |
| So, and yes, just clarifying one thing, Jake, so. | 00:22:34 | |
| Those terms of the agreement, do they come back to the RDA board or is that still just signed off on at that point in time by the | 00:22:37 | |
| chair or how does that work, however you guys want to do it, we can bring the agreement back if you lost? | 00:22:43 | |
| Or you guys can approve it, get these amounts that have been presented and then if it goes above those amounts, we can bring it | 00:22:51 | |
| back over you guys. | 00:22:55 | |
| But in terms of where the funds are coming from, when you so decide, does that make sense what I'm saying? Yeah, so like the | 00:22:59 | |
| reimbursement terms it would be whether we do a direct reimbursement here or five years. | 00:23:05 | |
| If you guys care about that, then I would say let's bring the agreement back to the Rea board. If you don't care about those terms | 00:23:12 | |
| then you can allow the chair to sign, OK, I'll, I'll make a motion and if they have issues they can they can so say. So I'll make | 00:23:19 | |
| a motion that we approve the RDA application and allow the chair to sign a cost sharing reimbursement agreement as presented. | 00:23:26 | |
| We have. | 00:23:40 | |
| I thought you seconded it. I'm sorry, I thought you were seconding it. | 00:23:43 | |
| Happy. | 00:23:51 | |
| We have a motion. | 00:23:53 | |
| All in favor. | 00:23:56 | |
| Hi. | 00:23:58 | |
| Any. | 00:24:02 | |
| No. | 00:24:04 | |
| For the most of his past. | 00:24:05 | |
| That's the only item on the agenda. Do I have a most proposed meeting? | 00:24:08 | |
| All in favor. | 00:24:17 | |
| Hi. | 00:24:19 | |
| Thank. | 00:24:21 | |
| Have a good night. | 00:24:24 | |
| Leave the underside of your cabinet. | 00:24:25 |