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Public Comments Mayor Pro Tempore Flake called for public comments. Hearing none, he closed the public session.     4.
Approval of the January 13, 2021 RDA Meeting Minutes   Chair Pro Tempore Flake called for a motion.   Motion:Boardmember Earnest moved to approve the consent item. Boardmember Judd seconded the motion. Chair Pro Tempore Flake, Boardmembers Earnest, Judd, and Welsh voted aye. Chair Fullmer was absent. The motion carried with one absent.     4.      business items 4.1
CALL TO ORDER/INVOCATION/INSPIRATIONAL THOUGHT/Pledge of Allegiance City Recorder Pamela Spencer opened the meeting at 6:01 PM. Due to Mayor Fullmer’s absence, she called for a nomination to appoint a mayor pro tempore.   Nomination: Councilmember Judd nominated Councilmember Flake as mayor pro tempore. Councilmember Earnest seconded the nomination. Roll call went as a follows: Councilmembers Earnest, Flake, Judd, and Welsh voted aye. The nomination was unanimous.   Ms. Spencer turned the time over to Mayor Pro Tempore Flake.      2.
Discussion and Action – Lakefront Infrastructure Reimbursements City Manager Jacob McHargue will present as request for infrastructure reimbursements. The RDA Board will take appropriate action.   Chair Pro Tempore Flake turned the time over to City Manager Jacob McHargue. Mr. McHargue explained that there were a few projects that they were looking at funding. ·         Reimbursement for a portion of 300 West and Loop Road that the city had requested be enhanced ·         Reimbursement for removing part of the old county road on the west side of the development ·         Cost-sharing at 50 percent of the regrading and seeding of the open space, and installation of the trail on the west side of the development.   The project's total cost was estimated at $1,491,561, and Edge Homes was requesting a cost-sharing of $614,575 from the RDA. Staff was recommending that the board approve the application and allow the chair to sign a reimbursement agreement.  Boardmember Earnest asked what type of grass would be planted. Water Manager Sullivan Love replied that it would be low-maintenance native grass. Boardmember Judd asked if they coordinated with the county about the fence and trail. Assistant Public Works Director Chris Wilson replied that the fence would be removed. Boardmember Welsh sought clarification on the regrading of the area under discussion. Brandon Watson with Edge Homes replied that the open space would be from the existing jogging trail to the Edge development as well as a parallel asphalt trail. He confirmed that the fence would be removed.  He said that Edge Homes had received approval from State Lands and the county.  Boardmember Earnest asked about the timeline for the completion of the project.  Mr. Watson replied that they planned to spend most of the year regrading and improving the area and then seeding it in the fall. Boardmember Judd asked about the maintenance of native grass.  Mr. Watson replied that the landscape architect put together a maintenance plan and had worked with Mr. Love to ensure that the city was comfortable with it. Boardmember Welsh asked for clarification on the native grass.  Mr. Love replied that they would be installing different types of grasses. Mr. Wilson explained that they took the approach that this was to be an experiment with different types of water-wise, low- maintenance grasses. Boardmember Welsh asked who would be responsible for maintaining the land. Mr. Wilson replied that the city would be leasing the ground and would be responsible for maintaining the land. Boardmember Welsh asked about the previous agreement that required them to put a million dollars on the north side (the promenade), and if that were the case, would it make sense to use the money now.  Mr. McHargue explained that Edge Homes was not required to do that anymore. Mr. Love explained that there would be three pavilions in the park are for public use. Mr. Brim suggested that they could add more pavilions in the future if there were a demand for it. There was a discussion about the use of the area. Boardmember Welsh asked if they would include connecting the trails and have a bridge. Mr. McHargue replied yes. The discussion continued. Mr. McHargue mentioned that the RDA was going through the bonding project, so he did not know how quickly the RDA could reimburse them. Boardmember Judd sought clarification if the terms would be brought before the board. Mr. McHargue replied that it was up to the board.   Motion: Boardmember Judd moved to approve the RDA application and allow the chair to sign the cost sharing reimbursement agreement as presented. Boardmember Earnestseconded the motion. Chair Pro Tempore Flake, Boardmembers Earnest, Judd, and Welsh voted aye. Chair Fullmer was absent. The motion carried with one absent.    5.      ADJOURNMENT Chair Pro Tempore Flake called for a motion to adjourn the meeting.  Motion:Boardmember Welsh moved to adjourn the meeting at 8:25 PM. Boardmember Judd seconded the motion. Chair Pro Tempore Flake, Boardmembers Earnest, Judd, and Welsh voted aye. Chair Fullmer was absent. The motion carried with one absent.   RDA meetings are scheduled, as necessary.     MINUTES APPROVED ON:   February 24, 2021   CERTIFIED CORRECT BY:    /s/ Pamela Spencer Pamela spencer, city recorder
WRITTEN DETERMINATION Mayor Pro Tempore Flake read the letter of determination for electronic meetings signed by Mayor Fullmer. He gave the invocation and Councilmember Earnest led the Pledge of Allegiance. 3.
Mayor and COUNCILMEMBERS’ REPORTS/DISCLOSURES/RECUSALS Councilmember Welsh reported on the legislative bills that concerned the city: HB61, HB82, and HB98. HB61 would allow any sign in the city to be lit. She felt that the state should not be modifying codes in the cities and that the closer the government was to the people, the better. Mayor Pro Tempore Flake said that all three of these bills would be a direct reproach to the council managing the city.   Councilmember Welsh reported that there was a bill in the state legislature that would allow cities to participate in a mobile voting pilot program. Mr. McHargue stated that he would have Ms. Spencer prepare a report for the next city council meeting.   Councilmember Judd reported that he had spoken with Jacob Holdaway about the Walkara Way project, who mentioned that they were receiving additional funding from the state. He said they had fencing up and would be getting cattle to help remove the phragmites along the shoreline. Mr. Brim mentioned that they would be tracking the impact the cattle would have on invasive plant species.   Councilmember Judd recommended that local businesses apply for federal loans for COVID relief.   Councilmember Earnest reported on the latest with the COVID-19 vaccine.  He said that the state had administered about a quarter of a million vaccines, and the second vaccine should be given to people soon. Mayor Pro Tempore Flake recommended that everyone get the vaccine. Councilmember Welsh asked about the variant of the virus. Councilmember Earnest replied that he had not heard of anything stating that the pandemic would worsen with the variants; it would only extend the pandemic. Mr. McHargue mentioned that the health department would be doing their weekly calls with the mayors starting next week.     5.      STAFF, COMMISSION, and committee REPORTS 5.1
City Manager Jacob McHargue Mr. McHargue reported that he met with Orem City and Central Utah Water on the water tank project. He explained that Vineyard had three years from now to build a fire station. He said that Orem City was building a new recreation center and wanted to provide Vineyard residents a one-time 20 percent discount on an annual pass. The pass must be purchased between now and opening day in early March.  Assistant Finance Director/Treasurer Mariah Hill asked if Vineyard would still reimburse the $80 per year. Mr. McHargue replied yes. He said that Orem City was considering allowing Vineyard residents to have their resident rate.   Councilmember Earnest asked if the city tracked the library or recreation center reimbursements. McHargue replied that he would check with Orem to find out the number of residents who purchased library cards and recreation center passes.    McHargue reported on the Facebook live “ask us anything” event, which was held earlier today.  Mr. McHargue then discussed the current Utah Legislative session. He said that there were three questions that the Utah League of Cities and Towns (ULCT) asked when they were examining current bills. ·         Does the bill respect the traditional role of local government, is the bill a one-size-fits-all approach? ·         Does it respect that every city is unique? ·         Will the bill result in an unfunded or unworkable mandate on cities? He suggested that the council use these questions when evaluating the bills.   Mr. McHargue mentioned that he had purchased the ULCT Powers and Duties books for the mayor and councilmembers.   5.2
Youth Council Mayor Janelle Dadson – Quarterly Report   Youth Council Mayor Janelle Dadson reported on the Youth Council’s work on the children’s library project at the old Town Hall at 240 East Gammon Road.   Mayor Pro Tempore Flake commended the Youth Council for their hard work.     6.
CONSENT ITEMS 6.1  Approval of the January 13, 2021 City Council Meeting Minutes 6.2  Approval of Executech for IT Services 6.3  Approval of the Municipal Wastewater Planning Program Annual Report   Mayor Pro Tempore Flake called for a motion.   Motion:Councilmember Judd moved to approve the consent items 6.1 through 6.3. Councilmember Earnest seconded the motion. Mayor Pro Tempore Flake, Councilmembers Earnest, Judd, and Welsh voted aye. Mayor Fullmer was absent. The Motion carried with one absent.     7.      Mayor’s Appointments No names were submitted.   8.      discussion/Presentations 8.1
Parking Policy Staff will discuss parking policies.   Mayor Pro Tempore Flake turned the time over to City Manager Jacob McHargue, who turned the time over to City Attorney Jayme Blakesley.   Mr. Blakesley gave a background on the need to enforce overnight residential parking in specific neighborhoods and suggested a potential parking solution for impacted neighborhoods. He presented the Herriman City model, which was through a permitting system with tickets being issued to violators. Each neighborhood would have to apply for the program by gathering at least 51 percent of the homeowners’ signatures and submitting them along with an application to the city for approval. Once approved, each homeowner could apply for two residential and one guest overnight street parking permits annually. He said that there could be permits for special events. There was a discussion about opting in and out of the program. Mr. Blakesley said that in Herriman’s model, neighborhoods could opt into the program, but only the council could eliminate the program. He reminded the council that they could adjust Herriman’s model to fit Vineyard's needs.   Councilmember Earnest asked if this program would help areas that did not have enough parking or redefine already-limited parking. Mr. McHargue replied that it would be limiting parking.   There was a discussion about limiting overnight parking and how the permit system would work.   Councilmember Welsh asked if this program could be used in the downtown area.  Mr. McHargue replied that the downtown area would have different parking regulations.   Councilmember Judd said that he liked each neighborhood having the ability to decide. He felt that this was not a blanket solution.   There was a discussion about the annual cost of the permits. Mr. McHargue explained that they wanted the program to be somewhat revenue neutral.  He felt that $50 was a reasonable amount for an annual pass.   The discussion about the permit program continued. Councilmember Welsh felt that they were trying to find a balance with the parking issue.   Councilmember Earnest asked if there was a precedent for commercial businesses to share parking with homeowners. Mr. Blakesley replied that there were programs in cities in other states. Mr. McHargue said that businesses on the Orem side of Geneva Road were renting parking spaces to residents in the townhomes and the apartments. There was a discussion about Vineyard businesses renting out their parking spaces to residents.   Councilmember Judd asked how it would affect the city's current parking regulations. Mr. Blakesley replied that they would have to craft the program so that it did not affect the city code.   Councilmember Welsh asked how the permit program would be enforced. Mr. McHargue replied that it would be done through a code enforcement program. Sergeant Rockwell felt that signage would be a crucial part of enforcement. There was a discussion about code enforcement. Sergeant Rockwell said that his department would not be able to monitor the permits every night. He suggested that they have permit parking signs. Councilmember Welsh stated that she was not in favor of a program that sounded good on paper but could not be enforced. Community Development Director Morgan Brim said that one part of enforcement would be more aggressive enforcement of occupancy.  He emphasized that after the first couple of months of enforcement, occupancy numbers would start to drop, and the issue usually corrected itself.   Councilmember Welsh felt that it would behoove the city to have an enforcement plan to include with the parking program before being brought to council for a vote. Councilmember Judd felt that they needed more information on how enforcement would happen.    Resident Tyler Reese, living in the Providence subdivision, felt that $50 was a bit high. He asked about the difference between the guest parking pass and the regular pass. He said that there were homes in his neighborhood with more than two cars parked on the street each night.  He felt that having to gather 75 percent of the owners’ signatures was too high. He expressed concern that the situation would get ugly and that street parking was a problem and was not getting better. Councilmember Judd said that from personal experience doing the hard work to get people on the same page brought the neighborhood together, and that was why he liked the 75 percent. He suggested that after the first year, the city could examine the costs and potentially reduce the permit price, but the city would never cover the cost to run the program. Mr. Reese felt that most people would refuse to sign the petition because they could occasionally have guests who needed to park on the street overnight.   There was a discussion about the permits and who would get them. Mr. Blakesley explained that Herriman had a maximum number of three passes per household. Park City’s policy had a maximum of five cars per household, but that was because a lot of the homes did not have garages or driveways.  He explained that Park City subtracted the number of on-site spots, so if they had four on-site parking spots, they only qualified for one on-street pass. Mr. Reese said that this permit program was primarily to keep non-residents of that neighborhood using the parking. Building Official George Reid recommended that Vineyard not use Park City’s program because of his experience and what he had observed while working for Park City. The discussion continued.   Mayor Pro Tempore Flake concluded the discussion and strongly urged all residents to contact staff or councilmembers with their input. Councilmember Welsh clarified that this program was for overnight parking only.     9.      BUSINESS ITEMS 9.1
Discussion and Action –Fiscal Year 2019-2020 Audit Report James Gilbert with Gilbert and Stewart, Certified Public Accountants will present the annual financial audit report for fiscal year 2019-2020 for consideration and acceptance by the Council. The mayor and city council will take appropriate action.   Mayor Pro Tempore Flake turned the time over to City Manager Jacob McHargue, who turned the time over to James Gilbert with Gilbert and Stewart, Certified Public Accountants.   Mr. Gilbert presented the annual financial audit report. He said that his report included an unmodified opinion, which was the highest opinion the city could receive.  He explained the methodology for compiling the audit report. This report included figures from both the city and the Redevelopment Agency (RDA).  He said that there was one finding because the city had not completed the self-risk assessment report before year-end. He recommended that it be done as soon as possible.   Motion:Councilmember Earnest moved to accept the fiscal year 2019-2020 audit report.Councilmember Judd seconded the motion. mayor pro tempore flake, Councilmembers Earnest, Judd, and Welsh voted aye. Mayor FUllmer was absent. The motion carried with one absent.   9.2
Discussion and action –Approval of the Republic Services Contract Extension City Manager Jacob McHargue will present the contract extension for republic services. The mayor and city council will take appropriate action.   Mayor Pro Tempore Flake turned the time over to City Manager Jacob McHargue.   Mr. McHargue introduced Reece DeMille with Republic Services.    Mr. DeMille explained that because the city was growing, they could now separate the city’s waste from others, and the city could pay for their tipping fees at a discounted rate. He said that he was proposing signing a five-year contract extension with new pricing, saving the city money. The cost to the city for Republic Services would decrease after January 1, 2022. Mr. McHargue explained how the original agreement worked and how the new contract would work. He explained that because the city was part of the North Pointe Solid Waste District, they could get a discounted rate. He said that the cost savings would be $14,213 in 2020 and $51,404 in 2022.   Councilmember Earnest asked if staff had shopped for a better price. McHargue replied that they had not submitted a request for proposal (RFP) but had looked at other cities’ rates, and he felt that this contract was in line with them. Mr. DeMille mentioned that Highland put the contract out for bid and just signed Waste Management, whose rates were higher than theirs.  He added that Vineyard’s garbage and recycling would both be picked up on Wednesdays starting February 15th, with recycling still every other week.  All residents affected would receive a postcard from Republic Services.   Motion:Councilmember Welsh moved to approve the contract extension with republic services and authorize the mayor to sign the contract.Councilmember Judd seconded the motion.mayor pro tempore flake, Councilmembers Earnest, Judd, and Welsh voted aye. Mayor FUllmer was absent. The motion carried with one absent.   9.3
Public hearing – Amendments to the FY 2020-2021 Budget RES 2021-02 City Manager Jacob McHargue will present recommended amendments to the Fiscal Year 2020-2021 Budget. The mayor and City Council will act to adopt (or deny) this request by resolution.   Mayor Pro Tempore Flake called for a motion to open the public hearing.   Motion:Councilmember Welsh moved to open the public hearing at 7:38 PM. Councilmember Earnest seconded the motion.mayor pro tempore flake, Councilmembers Earnest, Judd, and Welsh voted aye. Mayor FUllmer was absent. The motion carried with one absent.   Mr. McHargue presented the Budget Amendments by reviewing each of the funds:  General Fund, Water Fund, Sewer Fund, Storm Water Fund, Transportation Fund, Capital Projects, and Internal Services.  There were discussions about the different funds.   Mr. McHargue mentioned that Penny Springs Park's grand opening would be this spring, with Sunset Beach Park not far behind. He noted that they would be replacing the playground equipment at Gammon Park.   Councilmember Judd asked if there were additional funds available for the fire station.  Mr. McHargue replied that the station's construction would come from the Capital Projects Fund.   Mayor Pro Tempore Flake called for public comments. Hearing none, he called for a motion to close the public hearing.   Motion:Councilmember Welsh moved to close the public hearing at 7:57 PM. Councilmember Earnest seconded the motion.mayor pro tempore flake, Councilmembers Earnest, Judd, and Welsh voted aye. Mayor FUllmer was absent. The motion carried with one absent.   Mayor Pro Tempore Flake called for a motion.   Motion:Councilmember Judd moved to adopt Resolution 2021-02 Amending the Vineyard City budget for 2020-2021 fiscal year.Councilmember Earnest seconded the motion.Roll call went as a follows: mayor pro tempore flake, Councilmembers Earnest, Judd, and Welsh voted aye. Mayor FUllmer was absent. The motion carried with one absent.     10.  CLOSED SESSION No closed session was held.     11.  ADJOURNMENT   Mayor Pro Tempore Flake called for a motion to adjourn the meeting.   Motion:Councilmember Judd moved to adjourn the meeting at 7:58 PM.Councilmember Earnest seconded the motion. Mayor Pro tempore Flake, Councilmembers Earnest, Judd, and Welsh voted aye. The motion carried with one absent.     The next regularly scheduled meeting is February 10, 2021.     MINUTES APPROVED ON:   February 10, 2021   CERTIFIED CORRECT BY:    /s/ Pamela Spencer Pamela spencer, city recorder
OK, we are now live. Umm like it's Wednesday, January 27th, 2021. 00:00:00
And it is 8:01 PM and we're opening the RDA meeting. And as Chair Fulmer is absent, I'd like to call for a nomination to chair the 00:00:09
meeting tonight. 00:00:15
This is Chris I'd like to nominate. 00:00:23
Member Flake Pike Flake as the chair for tonight's meeting. Second, I could second that. OK, roll call, Christy. 00:00:26
Oh. 00:00:39
T. 00:00:40
Yeah. OK, Motion carries. I turn the time over to you. 00:00:41
Pro Tem Blake. 00:00:47
Mayor. 00:00:51
Excuse from this front RDA. 00:00:53
And then your city do hereby find and declare as follows due to the emergency conditions which currently exist in the state of 00:00:56
Utah. 00:01:00
And specifically in Utah County and Vineyard City as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. 00:01:04
And the. 00:01:11
19 infections across the state and Utah County. 00:01:13
The holding of public meetings with an anchor location as defined in the Utah open and public heat? Exactly. 00:01:18
Presents a substantial risk to. 00:01:26
Health and safety of those who may be. 00:01:29
At an anchor location. 00:01:32
And the risk to those who may present. 00:01:34
At the anchor location can't be such such substantially mitigated by holding public meetings of the City Council. 00:01:37
Pursue it to the electronic beats that allow. 00:01:45
Public participation via. 00:01:49
Virtual needs that also includes already. 00:01:51
City has the means and ability to allow virtual partic. 00:01:56
In the book of meetings, in accordance with the Utah Open and Public Meeting Act. 00:02:00
Now therefore based upon before. 00:02:05
30 days. 00:02:07
The date of this order. 00:02:09
Feedings of Vineyard City Council and RDA. 00:02:11
Virtual needs without an anchor. 00:02:16
So. 00:02:23
We have one item on the agenda we've got. 00:02:27
Yeah. 00:02:32
So. 00:02:35
2nd. 00:02:37
Some items have been Appro. 00:02:42
So do I have a motion to approve? 00:02:48
What is the vote to the consent items? 00:02:53
Yay. 00:02:57
Yeah, let's go. Items are. 00:03:00
OK. Just the one item on you want me to take. 00:03:04
All right, let me share my screen again. 00:03:10
You guys. 00:03:17
Yes. 00:03:20
An RDA application from Edge Homes and I believe that Jaron and Brandon are on the call. 00:03:22
Will be available to answer questions, but I'll just run through this really quick. 00:03:27
I have the application here, there's there's a few projects that we're looking at funding, so let me pull up the map. 00:03:33
Can you guys see that map? 00:03:44
Yes, yes. 00:03:46
This exhibit is. 00:03:50
Showing in blue 300 W that will go in the middle through the middle of this. 00:03:52
This development and you've got an extension of blue growth that will pee in right in front of the courthouse. 00:03:59
They would have been required to do a portion of both of these roads as part of their development. 00:04:06
We requested as a city to try to enhance those roads. 00:04:13
And so as part of that, we are presenting A reimbursement agreement for the portion of the road that they would not have been 00:04:17
required to do as part of their development. 00:04:22
The second part of this project is the existing Lake Rd. comes through to the West side of their. 00:04:28
And as part of that site plan approval, they would have been required to take out this Med section of the trail or up the road. 00:04:37
We wanted this blue section to also be removed. 00:04:48
So that we could bring the trail through and we didn't have two trails cutting up this this new open space. 00:04:52
So they they are proposing to fund the red portion and then the RDA would reimburse. 00:05:01
And then as part of this project they would be regrading all of this area that is between. 00:05:11
Their development and the existing lake trail. 00:05:19
Regrading that area and then seating it and then because this is going to benefit their development as well as the city as a 00:05:23
whole, we're proposing to do a 5050 park sharing on those costs. 00:05:29
So those are the exhibits here, Jake, What's it being seated with? Sorry, is it just is we grass? 00:05:36
Yes, I believe it's just, I don't know what, but it's grass. I don't need to know what time I'm just it's grass. Is that what 00:05:42
we're doing? 00:05:46
OK. It's a low maintenance native grass mix. 00:05:51
OK, OK. 00:05:54
So you guys can see here the background and discussion. Those are the projects that are being presented. The total cost of the 00:05:57
project is estimated at 1,066,000 of which the developers requesting cost sharing of 647,000 from the RDA. 00:06:05
Staff is recommending that the board approve the RDA application and allow the chair to sign a reimbursement agreement with Edge 00:06:16
Homes. 00:06:19
I believe I have. 00:06:23
Umm. 00:06:29
Otherwise, we're available to answer any questions. 00:06:31
Jake, can you go back to the map that showed the access points to the current county trial? I think it showed some trails that 00:06:35
maybe. 00:06:40
Going east to West from the community. 00:06:46
Connecting. 00:06:49
Do I see that correctly? 00:06:51
Yeah, I can pull that. 00:06:52
Yeah, this one. 00:06:56
I know along the county trail currently is. Isn't there a fence? 00:07:00
It's off. 00:07:05
So I guess that we we've coordinated with the county. 00:07:06
To connect to the trail and have these open openings of their fence and everything, and they're comfortable with that. 00:07:10
You're talking when you say fence, are you talking the guardrail? 00:07:16
I believe. I believe there's a fence between the guardrail. 00:07:22
I I can't answer that question. That's not a conversation I've been a part of. I don't know if there's a member of our staff or 00:07:31
if. 00:07:34
Chris Wilson just said. 00:07:38
Oh, great. Thanks, Chris. 00:07:40
That's a yes, but that that's being removed in this project. Yeah, removed or just access points. 00:07:43
I'll wait for his comment. I imagine it's coming. 00:07:50
Perfect. 00:07:55
So just to clarify, the regrading would go the trail where the trail is past all the existing space to defend. 00:07:57
Through the road to the property. 00:08:06
That whole area to the trail. 00:08:09
Brandon or Jared, I don't know if you want to speak to that on the actual plan for the grading. 00:08:12
Uh. 00:08:17
Yeah. Can you hear me? 00:08:19
OK, great. Yeah. So, yeah, all of the regrading and the re vegetation will happen from where the existing jogging trail is. 00:08:21
It was that whole green area of that map. So it's from the existing jogging trail all the way to our development. We're also 00:08:28
running a. 00:08:33
I think it's an 8 foot wide asphalt trail adjacent to our units. 00:08:38
And so we're putting that trail in 100% on our dime and then put the whole reseating area of that green area. 00:08:43
Uh. 00:08:52
Yeah, essentially. 00:08:54
That answer. And then yes, the fence will be. 00:08:59
As we do this, I'm trying to remember that fences east or West of the existing jogging trail. I can't think of it off the top of 00:09:03
my head, but I think it's on the east side and we'll remove that fence, Yes, so we have received. 00:09:08
Approval officially from the state lands. It's actually state lands. There's a little sliver from the county and we've worked with 00:09:15
them also Chris has been speller and helping us get working those. 00:09:21
Uh. 00:09:27
Working with the state lands in the county so we finally got their approval and. 00:09:28
Are working towards getting a pre construction meeting set up with them on this. 00:09:33
I guess the only question I would ask is what's the timeline? 00:09:38
Completion, what are we looking at? Guesstimate, I know it's not exact. Yeah, no, that's a great question. So we intend to spend 00:09:42
most of this year. 00:09:46
Regrading the area and we've we've talked to Amber on your Planning Commission as well as our landscape architect on when the best 00:09:50
time of year to receive this area is. 00:09:55
And they both highly recommend we wait until the fall so that all of that reseed mix has a chance to to germinate throughout the 00:10:00
winter and then we'll get the best pop of those plants in the springtime next year. So we'll spend this year doing all the 00:10:06
improvements. 00:10:12
And then we'll kind of keep an eye on, on weather, but yeah, this fall is when we hope. 00:10:18
Hope to be completed. We've got to make sure that we get rid of all of the also invasive species that are on there. So we've got 00:10:22
to kind of keep an eye on that over the summer. 00:10:26
But yeah, so hopefully this time next. 00:10:31
Soon as spring kind of hits, we'll start to see that really flourish. 00:10:34
The maintenance, the maintenance of the the native grass and I I guess when I hear native grass, I guess I don't fully understand 00:10:40
what that means. Are we talking? 00:10:45
Native grass, it's going to grow up to a certain. 00:10:50
On its own and won't need to be mowed down all the time or what does that mean? 00:10:54
Yeah, so our landscape architect put together a really nice comprehensive. 00:10:59
Maintenance plan and we've met with like I said Amber and staff on making sure that we're. 00:11:05
And Sullivan was even involved in that to make sure we feel comfortable with that maintenance plan. So that's been implemented and 00:11:11
reviewed. What was the other part of your other your question? 00:11:17
You know, I don't remember, but that's a good answer I guess. Really it's a matter of just understanding the maintenance long term 00:11:24
for me to understand that. So I mean, is there, is there another section of the city that this same native brass is located? So I 00:11:29
kind of have an idea of what to compare it with? 00:11:34
Yeah, I was going to interject Sullivan. When I hear native grass, I think of the grass that we have planted in Grove Park. 00:11:39
Is that what we're talking about? 00:11:47
There's there's, I think there's like five or six different varieties of grass that they're planting. 00:11:51
Some of them will be in clumps that will grow taller, and some of them will grow smaller, and so there will be some options. 00:11:56
As to how its maintain. 00:12:03
And so we'll review those, you know the plan that they put together. 00:12:05
And some of this will be a little bit of learning process on our part also, but they've done it. So that's a decorative, it's not 00:12:09
just one you know, solid type of grass. There are no other. 00:12:15
Areas in the city that will have or currently have anything like this. 00:12:21
There's some areas that have some native grass out by junior connector, but that's that's nothing like this is going to look like. 00:12:26
So Christy and Chris also, so, hey, this is Chris Wilson, so basically. 00:12:34
We took the approach on this if this is an experiment, more or less because we haven't had any other grasses like this. 00:12:39
So this will give us an opportunity. We took the best grasses that we could with the group of people. 00:12:47
To what would be water wise low mainten? 00:12:54
They will have some maintenance like maybe once a year like a knock down mowing or something like that. 00:12:59
Very minimal. 00:13:06
Keep the natural look of the lake and then we'll have to see. 00:13:08
What grasses work and what we end up liking and then we can start using more. 00:13:12
That or not using it in other areas of the. 00:13:17
So whose land is this area? 00:13:24
Maintain that It sounds like it's the city's responsibility. 00:13:29
Yeah, so we went through. We worked with. 00:13:32
The the state lands the Sovereign Lands group at the state and so that lands owned by the state. 00:13:38
And we go through a permitting process where they allow us through a general permit to to more or less lease the land and take 00:13:46
responsibility for the maintenance. 00:13:52
An upkeep of it in exchange for the. 00:13:59
Of that. So it's the same concept of what we did with the the Vineyard Beach area. 00:14:03
And we've been slowly getting all the pieces along the beach as. 00:14:10
Planning the development and. 00:14:15
Eventually. 00:14:18
Have the general permits for. 00:14:19
The entire lakefront of. 00:14:21
I would, I would interject that I would be a fan with the with this trail going along here and that green section being. 00:14:26
A type of native grass. I feel like this could be a really neat area. 00:14:33
For people to have picnics and put out blankets and so I would be. 00:14:37
Inclined to work towards whatever grass or program allowed. 00:14:43
That kind of recreation recreating to go on. 00:14:47
If I'm seeing this right, maybe I'm seeing it wrong, but that's what I hope can happen there. 00:14:53
No, I'm grateful for you guys clarifying that this is property. I wasn't sure if it was all of the developers property, in which 00:14:57
case I was wondering why we were going to go in on it, but it makes sense that. 00:15:04
This. 00:15:10
You know, all of our citizens, I walk along this trail. 00:15:12
All the time, and so I'm very familiar with the area. 00:15:15
So it makes sense that we partner on it. Can I ask another question I? 00:15:20
Correct me if I'm wrong. 00:15:26
Because I believe this was a decision made before I was involved with the R. 00:15:27
But I remember when this project was first coming in and it seemed like there was an agreement that there was going to be. 00:15:32
$1,000,000 put in on the Northside with the promenade. 00:15:39
Is that still part that's still an agreement that we have? 00:15:42
And you're and you're never wrong, Christy. So don't short sell yourself. 00:15:49
I mean, I won't dispute that, but. 00:15:55
If that's the case, but it makes sense for us to maybe just use some of that money now in this portion of it. 00:16:01
Because I just don't know what's going to happen with the promenade. 00:16:09
That makes sense what I'm saying. 00:16:14
I think it's part of the development, right? 00:16:21
Uh. 00:16:24
Edge Homes isn't required to do that anymore. 00:16:25
Separate. 00:16:28
Or Anderson, Geneva. 00:16:32
They changed it again. Whatever has to be in conjunction with that third party, correct? 00:16:35
OK, that answered. 00:16:41
John's real quick. Also John out in this area. There are three existing pavilions. 00:16:47
That the public will be able to use also. 00:16:53
Love. 00:16:57
Yeah, I was going to say basically the same thing and kind of the idea was to push more of the like the the rule approved park 00:16:59
Park Ish kind of stuff towards the north by the by the boardwalk. So you see kind of more of an official grass area where people 00:17:05
can shop. 00:17:11
And then they'll have basically a grass area by the boardwalk where they can, where they do this area due to maintenance I know 00:17:19
Dawn was really concerned about. 00:17:24
The battle maintenance was going to take on, so we just look for really low maintenance water wise. 00:17:29
You know, type plans, so it's more but there are pavilions to hang out, yeah, but I mean, but the grading is done well and if we 00:17:36
get a grasp that's not going to grow crazy tall. It still is a nice transition towards that boardwalk and for sure. 00:17:43
More formal grass area I understand, but yeah, so I want to. Let's make it. 00:17:51
Hang out friendly as we can, if that, if that's possible. 00:17:56
Great. And in the future if you wanted to add more pavilions and that's we can always add to the plan. 00:18:01
Morgan, you're just talking about the existing civilians that are that are there not right. Yeah there there's a three there and 00:18:07
then but what I'm saying is if there is a big demand for city choice come back in and work with the state to add more. Oh I'm, I'm 00:18:14
just talking about grass where people hang out that's what I was talking about. No, we're good. Yeah. Yeah. So to add to that 00:18:21
Morgan. So the the reason why we're doing this really simple is to be low cost in the clean up that area to get the trail. 00:18:28
Networks completed. 00:18:36
And then? 00:18:37
The goal is, is in the future as we figure out what we really want along the lakefront, we'll go in and add additional amenities 00:18:40
and change things. But for now like this is a it cleans it up, it gets our trail networks put together, it gives a nice product 00:18:46
for edges. 00:18:51
You know residents to come in and and to be able to enjoy that until we're ready with a bigger project to come through, if it's 00:18:58
part of that. 00:19:03
Lakefront Grant. 00:19:08
Money that we got from the county or whatever it may be. 00:19:10
Well, I still see it as a is a is a great you know destination for any of our residents honestly to go out and be able to do that. 00:19:14
Like John said, I mean he he. 00:19:18
Now let's go do picnics and things like that. It's one of the best views you can get down by the lake straight across, so I think 00:19:23
it's a great spot. 00:19:27
Yeah, I know for sure. I know. I know you guys live on the South Side, so you don't walk up there. But residents on this side of 00:19:32
the city? 00:19:35
Use that trail like crazy. 00:19:38
Did we talk about this, including the trail expansion in the bridge? 00:19:41
OK, sorry I failed to mention that, but that is also part of it. So connecting the two trail systems. So the trail ends right now 00:19:47
at Sunset Beach Park. 00:19:51
Part of this project is also including a bridge over that culvert and connecting that trail to the north, where it ends. 00:19:55
Basically with this, with this finished sunset, park the trail. 00:20:05
And all that land to the end of their opportunity. 00:20:10
Right. It won't finish the park. 00:20:13
Because that's part of Flagship's project, but it'll finish the. 00:20:16
Like the state lands portion, but to Christie's point, they're rerouting the road. They're milling that portion of it up so that 00:20:21
we can finish. 00:20:25
I think the hope would be that with all of these agreements all kind of happening at the same time that all of that kind of. 00:20:30
Comes together, yeah, Jake doesn't this. 00:20:36
Help to, I guess, pay for the grading of where the culvert is, where it's like a Cliff, kind of a drop off, like it does not allow 00:20:40
us to create a gentler slope. 00:20:45
You know, I mean I like how how much of that could be connected with. 00:20:50
The specifics on how to kind of integrate that area into this, I don't know that it necessarily. 00:20:56
So Jake, it does and will between the lower trail, the county trail, and the trail that's up against edges. 00:21:07
Buildings. It will regrade that section and take the clip away and to make a gentle slope, basically go from trail to trail and 00:21:15
it'll be just one. 00:21:20
It's about like a like roughly 30% slow. 00:21:26
Chair, I'm I'm ready for a motion unless there's other questions. 00:21:34
That's. 00:21:38
Hold, I want to hold on. I want to make one comment. So as you guys know, we're going through the bonding process. 00:21:40
With the RDA right now we're restructuring some of our current debt and looking at financing some new projects. So I don't know 00:21:48
exactly. 00:21:52
How quickly we're going to be able to reimburse these guys? 00:21:58
Because I don't want to, I don't want to impact any bonding decisions that the city is going to make for the RDA is going to 00:22:02
makeover the next few months. So we have put in there that we can work out the terms of reimbursement and then the chair can just 00:22:09
sign the agreement. So I don't want to finalize any of that decision until we have these long discussions. 00:22:15
So that it doesn't impact our bond rating or any of that, so. 00:22:22
There's just allowing the chair to sign an agreement in the future. 00:22:26
With these terms that have been presented, so that's. 00:22:30
So, and yes, just clarifying one thing, Jake, so. 00:22:34
Those terms of the agreement, do they come back to the RDA board or is that still just signed off on at that point in time by the 00:22:37
chair or how does that work, however you guys want to do it, we can bring the agreement back if you lost? 00:22:43
Or you guys can approve it, get these amounts that have been presented and then if it goes above those amounts, we can bring it 00:22:51
back over you guys. 00:22:55
But in terms of where the funds are coming from, when you so decide, does that make sense what I'm saying? Yeah, so like the 00:22:59
reimbursement terms it would be whether we do a direct reimbursement here or five years. 00:23:05
If you guys care about that, then I would say let's bring the agreement back to the Rea board. If you don't care about those terms 00:23:12
then you can allow the chair to sign, OK, I'll, I'll make a motion and if they have issues they can they can so say. So I'll make 00:23:19
a motion that we approve the RDA application and allow the chair to sign a cost sharing reimbursement agreement as presented. 00:23:26
We have. 00:23:40
I thought you seconded it. I'm sorry, I thought you were seconding it. 00:23:43
Happy. 00:23:51
We have a motion. 00:23:53
All in favor. 00:23:56
Hi. 00:23:58
Any. 00:24:02
No. 00:24:04
For the most of his past. 00:24:05
That's the only item on the agenda. Do I have a most proposed meeting? 00:24:08
All in favor. 00:24:17
Hi. 00:24:19
Thank. 00:24:21
Have a good night. 00:24:24
Leave the underside of your cabinet. 00:24:25
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OK, we are now live. Umm like it's Wednesday, January 27th, 2021. 00:00:00
And it is 8:01 PM and we're opening the RDA meeting. And as Chair Fulmer is absent, I'd like to call for a nomination to chair the 00:00:09
meeting tonight. 00:00:15
This is Chris I'd like to nominate. 00:00:23
Member Flake Pike Flake as the chair for tonight's meeting. Second, I could second that. OK, roll call, Christy. 00:00:26
Oh. 00:00:39
T. 00:00:40
Yeah. OK, Motion carries. I turn the time over to you. 00:00:41
Pro Tem Blake. 00:00:47
Mayor. 00:00:51
Excuse from this front RDA. 00:00:53
And then your city do hereby find and declare as follows due to the emergency conditions which currently exist in the state of 00:00:56
Utah. 00:01:00
And specifically in Utah County and Vineyard City as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. 00:01:04
And the. 00:01:11
19 infections across the state and Utah County. 00:01:13
The holding of public meetings with an anchor location as defined in the Utah open and public heat? Exactly. 00:01:18
Presents a substantial risk to. 00:01:26
Health and safety of those who may be. 00:01:29
At an anchor location. 00:01:32
And the risk to those who may present. 00:01:34
At the anchor location can't be such such substantially mitigated by holding public meetings of the City Council. 00:01:37
Pursue it to the electronic beats that allow. 00:01:45
Public participation via. 00:01:49
Virtual needs that also includes already. 00:01:51
City has the means and ability to allow virtual partic. 00:01:56
In the book of meetings, in accordance with the Utah Open and Public Meeting Act. 00:02:00
Now therefore based upon before. 00:02:05
30 days. 00:02:07
The date of this order. 00:02:09
Feedings of Vineyard City Council and RDA. 00:02:11
Virtual needs without an anchor. 00:02:16
So. 00:02:23
We have one item on the agenda we've got. 00:02:27
Yeah. 00:02:32
So. 00:02:35
2nd. 00:02:37
Some items have been Appro. 00:02:42
So do I have a motion to approve? 00:02:48
What is the vote to the consent items? 00:02:53
Yay. 00:02:57
Yeah, let's go. Items are. 00:03:00
OK. Just the one item on you want me to take. 00:03:04
All right, let me share my screen again. 00:03:10
You guys. 00:03:17
Yes. 00:03:20
An RDA application from Edge Homes and I believe that Jaron and Brandon are on the call. 00:03:22
Will be available to answer questions, but I'll just run through this really quick. 00:03:27
I have the application here, there's there's a few projects that we're looking at funding, so let me pull up the map. 00:03:33
Can you guys see that map? 00:03:44
Yes, yes. 00:03:46
This exhibit is. 00:03:50
Showing in blue 300 W that will go in the middle through the middle of this. 00:03:52
This development and you've got an extension of blue growth that will pee in right in front of the courthouse. 00:03:59
They would have been required to do a portion of both of these roads as part of their development. 00:04:06
We requested as a city to try to enhance those roads. 00:04:13
And so as part of that, we are presenting A reimbursement agreement for the portion of the road that they would not have been 00:04:17
required to do as part of their development. 00:04:22
The second part of this project is the existing Lake Rd. comes through to the West side of their. 00:04:28
And as part of that site plan approval, they would have been required to take out this Med section of the trail or up the road. 00:04:37
We wanted this blue section to also be removed. 00:04:48
So that we could bring the trail through and we didn't have two trails cutting up this this new open space. 00:04:52
So they they are proposing to fund the red portion and then the RDA would reimburse. 00:05:01
And then as part of this project they would be regrading all of this area that is between. 00:05:11
Their development and the existing lake trail. 00:05:19
Regrading that area and then seating it and then because this is going to benefit their development as well as the city as a 00:05:23
whole, we're proposing to do a 5050 park sharing on those costs. 00:05:29
So those are the exhibits here, Jake, What's it being seated with? Sorry, is it just is we grass? 00:05:36
Yes, I believe it's just, I don't know what, but it's grass. I don't need to know what time I'm just it's grass. Is that what 00:05:42
we're doing? 00:05:46
OK. It's a low maintenance native grass mix. 00:05:51
OK, OK. 00:05:54
So you guys can see here the background and discussion. Those are the projects that are being presented. The total cost of the 00:05:57
project is estimated at 1,066,000 of which the developers requesting cost sharing of 647,000 from the RDA. 00:06:05
Staff is recommending that the board approve the RDA application and allow the chair to sign a reimbursement agreement with Edge 00:06:16
Homes. 00:06:19
I believe I have. 00:06:23
Umm. 00:06:29
Otherwise, we're available to answer any questions. 00:06:31
Jake, can you go back to the map that showed the access points to the current county trial? I think it showed some trails that 00:06:35
maybe. 00:06:40
Going east to West from the community. 00:06:46
Connecting. 00:06:49
Do I see that correctly? 00:06:51
Yeah, I can pull that. 00:06:52
Yeah, this one. 00:06:56
I know along the county trail currently is. Isn't there a fence? 00:07:00
It's off. 00:07:05
So I guess that we we've coordinated with the county. 00:07:06
To connect to the trail and have these open openings of their fence and everything, and they're comfortable with that. 00:07:10
You're talking when you say fence, are you talking the guardrail? 00:07:16
I believe. I believe there's a fence between the guardrail. 00:07:22
I I can't answer that question. That's not a conversation I've been a part of. I don't know if there's a member of our staff or 00:07:31
if. 00:07:34
Chris Wilson just said. 00:07:38
Oh, great. Thanks, Chris. 00:07:40
That's a yes, but that that's being removed in this project. Yeah, removed or just access points. 00:07:43
I'll wait for his comment. I imagine it's coming. 00:07:50
Perfect. 00:07:55
So just to clarify, the regrading would go the trail where the trail is past all the existing space to defend. 00:07:57
Through the road to the property. 00:08:06
That whole area to the trail. 00:08:09
Brandon or Jared, I don't know if you want to speak to that on the actual plan for the grading. 00:08:12
Uh. 00:08:17
Yeah. Can you hear me? 00:08:19
OK, great. Yeah. So, yeah, all of the regrading and the re vegetation will happen from where the existing jogging trail is. 00:08:21
It was that whole green area of that map. So it's from the existing jogging trail all the way to our development. We're also 00:08:28
running a. 00:08:33
I think it's an 8 foot wide asphalt trail adjacent to our units. 00:08:38
And so we're putting that trail in 100% on our dime and then put the whole reseating area of that green area. 00:08:43
Uh. 00:08:52
Yeah, essentially. 00:08:54
That answer. And then yes, the fence will be. 00:08:59
As we do this, I'm trying to remember that fences east or West of the existing jogging trail. I can't think of it off the top of 00:09:03
my head, but I think it's on the east side and we'll remove that fence, Yes, so we have received. 00:09:08
Approval officially from the state lands. It's actually state lands. There's a little sliver from the county and we've worked with 00:09:15
them also Chris has been speller and helping us get working those. 00:09:21
Uh. 00:09:27
Working with the state lands in the county so we finally got their approval and. 00:09:28
Are working towards getting a pre construction meeting set up with them on this. 00:09:33
I guess the only question I would ask is what's the timeline? 00:09:38
Completion, what are we looking at? Guesstimate, I know it's not exact. Yeah, no, that's a great question. So we intend to spend 00:09:42
most of this year. 00:09:46
Regrading the area and we've we've talked to Amber on your Planning Commission as well as our landscape architect on when the best 00:09:50
time of year to receive this area is. 00:09:55
And they both highly recommend we wait until the fall so that all of that reseed mix has a chance to to germinate throughout the 00:10:00
winter and then we'll get the best pop of those plants in the springtime next year. So we'll spend this year doing all the 00:10:06
improvements. 00:10:12
And then we'll kind of keep an eye on, on weather, but yeah, this fall is when we hope. 00:10:18
Hope to be completed. We've got to make sure that we get rid of all of the also invasive species that are on there. So we've got 00:10:22
to kind of keep an eye on that over the summer. 00:10:26
But yeah, so hopefully this time next. 00:10:31
Soon as spring kind of hits, we'll start to see that really flourish. 00:10:34
The maintenance, the maintenance of the the native grass and I I guess when I hear native grass, I guess I don't fully understand 00:10:40
what that means. Are we talking? 00:10:45
Native grass, it's going to grow up to a certain. 00:10:50
On its own and won't need to be mowed down all the time or what does that mean? 00:10:54
Yeah, so our landscape architect put together a really nice comprehensive. 00:10:59
Maintenance plan and we've met with like I said Amber and staff on making sure that we're. 00:11:05
And Sullivan was even involved in that to make sure we feel comfortable with that maintenance plan. So that's been implemented and 00:11:11
reviewed. What was the other part of your other your question? 00:11:17
You know, I don't remember, but that's a good answer I guess. Really it's a matter of just understanding the maintenance long term 00:11:24
for me to understand that. So I mean, is there, is there another section of the city that this same native brass is located? So I 00:11:29
kind of have an idea of what to compare it with? 00:11:34
Yeah, I was going to interject Sullivan. When I hear native grass, I think of the grass that we have planted in Grove Park. 00:11:39
Is that what we're talking about? 00:11:47
There's there's, I think there's like five or six different varieties of grass that they're planting. 00:11:51
Some of them will be in clumps that will grow taller, and some of them will grow smaller, and so there will be some options. 00:11:56
As to how its maintain. 00:12:03
And so we'll review those, you know the plan that they put together. 00:12:05
And some of this will be a little bit of learning process on our part also, but they've done it. So that's a decorative, it's not 00:12:09
just one you know, solid type of grass. There are no other. 00:12:15
Areas in the city that will have or currently have anything like this. 00:12:21
There's some areas that have some native grass out by junior connector, but that's that's nothing like this is going to look like. 00:12:26
So Christy and Chris also, so, hey, this is Chris Wilson, so basically. 00:12:34
We took the approach on this if this is an experiment, more or less because we haven't had any other grasses like this. 00:12:39
So this will give us an opportunity. We took the best grasses that we could with the group of people. 00:12:47
To what would be water wise low mainten? 00:12:54
They will have some maintenance like maybe once a year like a knock down mowing or something like that. 00:12:59
Very minimal. 00:13:06
Keep the natural look of the lake and then we'll have to see. 00:13:08
What grasses work and what we end up liking and then we can start using more. 00:13:12
That or not using it in other areas of the. 00:13:17
So whose land is this area? 00:13:24
Maintain that It sounds like it's the city's responsibility. 00:13:29
Yeah, so we went through. We worked with. 00:13:32
The the state lands the Sovereign Lands group at the state and so that lands owned by the state. 00:13:38
And we go through a permitting process where they allow us through a general permit to to more or less lease the land and take 00:13:46
responsibility for the maintenance. 00:13:52
An upkeep of it in exchange for the. 00:13:59
Of that. So it's the same concept of what we did with the the Vineyard Beach area. 00:14:03
And we've been slowly getting all the pieces along the beach as. 00:14:10
Planning the development and. 00:14:15
Eventually. 00:14:18
Have the general permits for. 00:14:19
The entire lakefront of. 00:14:21
I would, I would interject that I would be a fan with the with this trail going along here and that green section being. 00:14:26
A type of native grass. I feel like this could be a really neat area. 00:14:33
For people to have picnics and put out blankets and so I would be. 00:14:37
Inclined to work towards whatever grass or program allowed. 00:14:43
That kind of recreation recreating to go on. 00:14:47
If I'm seeing this right, maybe I'm seeing it wrong, but that's what I hope can happen there. 00:14:53
No, I'm grateful for you guys clarifying that this is property. I wasn't sure if it was all of the developers property, in which 00:14:57
case I was wondering why we were going to go in on it, but it makes sense that. 00:15:04
This. 00:15:10
You know, all of our citizens, I walk along this trail. 00:15:12
All the time, and so I'm very familiar with the area. 00:15:15
So it makes sense that we partner on it. Can I ask another question I? 00:15:20
Correct me if I'm wrong. 00:15:26
Because I believe this was a decision made before I was involved with the R. 00:15:27
But I remember when this project was first coming in and it seemed like there was an agreement that there was going to be. 00:15:32
$1,000,000 put in on the Northside with the promenade. 00:15:39
Is that still part that's still an agreement that we have? 00:15:42
And you're and you're never wrong, Christy. So don't short sell yourself. 00:15:49
I mean, I won't dispute that, but. 00:15:55
If that's the case, but it makes sense for us to maybe just use some of that money now in this portion of it. 00:16:01
Because I just don't know what's going to happen with the promenade. 00:16:09
That makes sense what I'm saying. 00:16:14
I think it's part of the development, right? 00:16:21
Uh. 00:16:24
Edge Homes isn't required to do that anymore. 00:16:25
Separate. 00:16:28
Or Anderson, Geneva. 00:16:32
They changed it again. Whatever has to be in conjunction with that third party, correct? 00:16:35
OK, that answered. 00:16:41
John's real quick. Also John out in this area. There are three existing pavilions. 00:16:47
That the public will be able to use also. 00:16:53
Love. 00:16:57
Yeah, I was going to say basically the same thing and kind of the idea was to push more of the like the the rule approved park 00:16:59
Park Ish kind of stuff towards the north by the by the boardwalk. So you see kind of more of an official grass area where people 00:17:05
can shop. 00:17:11
And then they'll have basically a grass area by the boardwalk where they can, where they do this area due to maintenance I know 00:17:19
Dawn was really concerned about. 00:17:24
The battle maintenance was going to take on, so we just look for really low maintenance water wise. 00:17:29
You know, type plans, so it's more but there are pavilions to hang out, yeah, but I mean, but the grading is done well and if we 00:17:36
get a grasp that's not going to grow crazy tall. It still is a nice transition towards that boardwalk and for sure. 00:17:43
More formal grass area I understand, but yeah, so I want to. Let's make it. 00:17:51
Hang out friendly as we can, if that, if that's possible. 00:17:56
Great. And in the future if you wanted to add more pavilions and that's we can always add to the plan. 00:18:01
Morgan, you're just talking about the existing civilians that are that are there not right. Yeah there there's a three there and 00:18:07
then but what I'm saying is if there is a big demand for city choice come back in and work with the state to add more. Oh I'm, I'm 00:18:14
just talking about grass where people hang out that's what I was talking about. No, we're good. Yeah. Yeah. So to add to that 00:18:21
Morgan. So the the reason why we're doing this really simple is to be low cost in the clean up that area to get the trail. 00:18:28
Networks completed. 00:18:36
And then? 00:18:37
The goal is, is in the future as we figure out what we really want along the lakefront, we'll go in and add additional amenities 00:18:40
and change things. But for now like this is a it cleans it up, it gets our trail networks put together, it gives a nice product 00:18:46
for edges. 00:18:51
You know residents to come in and and to be able to enjoy that until we're ready with a bigger project to come through, if it's 00:18:58
part of that. 00:19:03
Lakefront Grant. 00:19:08
Money that we got from the county or whatever it may be. 00:19:10
Well, I still see it as a is a is a great you know destination for any of our residents honestly to go out and be able to do that. 00:19:14
Like John said, I mean he he. 00:19:18
Now let's go do picnics and things like that. It's one of the best views you can get down by the lake straight across, so I think 00:19:23
it's a great spot. 00:19:27
Yeah, I know for sure. I know. I know you guys live on the South Side, so you don't walk up there. But residents on this side of 00:19:32
the city? 00:19:35
Use that trail like crazy. 00:19:38
Did we talk about this, including the trail expansion in the bridge? 00:19:41
OK, sorry I failed to mention that, but that is also part of it. So connecting the two trail systems. So the trail ends right now 00:19:47
at Sunset Beach Park. 00:19:51
Part of this project is also including a bridge over that culvert and connecting that trail to the north, where it ends. 00:19:55
Basically with this, with this finished sunset, park the trail. 00:20:05
And all that land to the end of their opportunity. 00:20:10
Right. It won't finish the park. 00:20:13
Because that's part of Flagship's project, but it'll finish the. 00:20:16
Like the state lands portion, but to Christie's point, they're rerouting the road. They're milling that portion of it up so that 00:20:21
we can finish. 00:20:25
I think the hope would be that with all of these agreements all kind of happening at the same time that all of that kind of. 00:20:30
Comes together, yeah, Jake doesn't this. 00:20:36
Help to, I guess, pay for the grading of where the culvert is, where it's like a Cliff, kind of a drop off, like it does not allow 00:20:40
us to create a gentler slope. 00:20:45
You know, I mean I like how how much of that could be connected with. 00:20:50
The specifics on how to kind of integrate that area into this, I don't know that it necessarily. 00:20:56
So Jake, it does and will between the lower trail, the county trail, and the trail that's up against edges. 00:21:07
Buildings. It will regrade that section and take the clip away and to make a gentle slope, basically go from trail to trail and 00:21:15
it'll be just one. 00:21:20
It's about like a like roughly 30% slow. 00:21:26
Chair, I'm I'm ready for a motion unless there's other questions. 00:21:34
That's. 00:21:38
Hold, I want to hold on. I want to make one comment. So as you guys know, we're going through the bonding process. 00:21:40
With the RDA right now we're restructuring some of our current debt and looking at financing some new projects. So I don't know 00:21:48
exactly. 00:21:52
How quickly we're going to be able to reimburse these guys? 00:21:58
Because I don't want to, I don't want to impact any bonding decisions that the city is going to make for the RDA is going to 00:22:02
makeover the next few months. So we have put in there that we can work out the terms of reimbursement and then the chair can just 00:22:09
sign the agreement. So I don't want to finalize any of that decision until we have these long discussions. 00:22:15
So that it doesn't impact our bond rating or any of that, so. 00:22:22
There's just allowing the chair to sign an agreement in the future. 00:22:26
With these terms that have been presented, so that's. 00:22:30
So, and yes, just clarifying one thing, Jake, so. 00:22:34
Those terms of the agreement, do they come back to the RDA board or is that still just signed off on at that point in time by the 00:22:37
chair or how does that work, however you guys want to do it, we can bring the agreement back if you lost? 00:22:43
Or you guys can approve it, get these amounts that have been presented and then if it goes above those amounts, we can bring it 00:22:51
back over you guys. 00:22:55
But in terms of where the funds are coming from, when you so decide, does that make sense what I'm saying? Yeah, so like the 00:22:59
reimbursement terms it would be whether we do a direct reimbursement here or five years. 00:23:05
If you guys care about that, then I would say let's bring the agreement back to the Rea board. If you don't care about those terms 00:23:12
then you can allow the chair to sign, OK, I'll, I'll make a motion and if they have issues they can they can so say. So I'll make 00:23:19
a motion that we approve the RDA application and allow the chair to sign a cost sharing reimbursement agreement as presented. 00:23:26
We have. 00:23:40
I thought you seconded it. I'm sorry, I thought you were seconding it. 00:23:43
Happy. 00:23:51
We have a motion. 00:23:53
All in favor. 00:23:56
Hi. 00:23:58
Any. 00:24:02
No. 00:24:04
For the most of his past. 00:24:05
That's the only item on the agenda. Do I have a most proposed meeting? 00:24:08
All in favor. 00:24:17
Hi. 00:24:19
Thank. 00:24:21
Have a good night. 00:24:24
Leave the underside of your cabinet. 00:24:25
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